Re: The Sartorialist

[Derby Chang]

On 8/01/2011 10:14 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 8/1/11, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:


Yes, going out there every day and letting yourself fall in love is
exactly what it feels like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5NgG5koPZU

Absolutely first rate video. Superb, love the insight.

Thanks for posting Derbs. Can I come and make one like that about you?
Expenses paid of course ;-)




OK, but bring your swimming togs, Cotty. And your CanTax 85mm. I will 
change my workflow to suit.


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Re: TOP likes 645D

[Eactivist]

So they finally did it. Kudos.

Marnie aka  Doe 

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RE: GESO - Chicago White Sox

[Chris Mitchell]

> >Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>ttp://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/WhiteSox/
> >>>
> >>>Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Getz and teammate (can't see the other guys name and really don't
> >>follow
> >>thiss stuff anymore )
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Based on the scoreboard shot it's Podsednik. Surprised that you as a
> long
> >term Chicagoan didn't get that :-)
> >
> >Chris
> >
> actually I hardly looked at the scoreboard shot... I did look up the
> game stats later and
> saw he was the one talking to Getz in that other shot I liked
> 
> however -  in my defense , when I was in Chicago I was a Cubs fan,
> later
> Mets and Red Sox.
> and I really don't know the current players on any of the teams these
> days, I confess.
> 
> Ann

I didn't mean to be super critical of you observation powers; sorry if it
came out that way!

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RE: The Sartorialist

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Derby Chang
> 
> OK, but bring your swimming togs, Cotty. 

Aagh! Now I have to scrub the inside of my skull with Vim to remove the
images...




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Re: January PUG is up!

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:57 +0200, "Boris Liberman" 
wrote:
> Thank you, Brian. You surely have started from the right foot.
> 
> My personals faves are:
> 
> The Fern Look by Subash
> The Dipping of the Fronds by Rob Studdert
> 
> Excellent gallery!
>


Yes it is and, after looking at most of these for a couple of weeks,
these are the ones appeal most to me:

* Ken's 'Bad Mud' and Dan's 'Giant's Stepping Stones' - totally
different subjects but very similar in concept.

* Subash's 'The Fern Look' - an extremely unusual perspective.

* John's 'Mushrooms on the March' - wonderful colour with subtle shadows
- and an innovative title!

* Ted's 'Steel Creek Reflections' - beautiful colours and a 'painterly'
look.

* Paul's 'Autumn Memory' - very subtle tones. I suspect that most of us
would never have noticed the photo opportunity here.

* Ann's 'Written in Stone' - wonderfully abstract.

* Rob's 'Dipping of the Fronds' - one of those images where the more you
look, the more there is to see.

* Bong's 'Bert's Chin' - wonderfully complex patterns and colour.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[Cotty]

On 9/1/11, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.



>Any suggestions?

Don't do it!!

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Re: Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Jens]

Yes. The digital backs for Hasselblad was made by a Danich company, that did 
merge with Hasselblad (Sweden) a few years back. I guess the scanners came from 
the very same company - which now is a part of the Hasselblad concern.

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On Jan 2, 2011 18:57 "AlunFoto"  wrote:
> 2011/1/2 Jens :
> > They still make imacon scanners  (I believe they were Danish
> > actually)?
> > Jens
> 
> The Imacon scanners are now sold as "Hasselblad Flextight" scanners.
> They're more expensive than a Pentax 645D by good margin.
> 
> I'm sure the Pentax 67 is a wonderful tool for acquiring images. I
> frequently miss shooting with the 645Nii, but never get around to
> actually loading it with film. I remember I tried to consider the
> cost
> of the Pentax *istD against my expenses for film an processing, and
> concluded that I could buy a new digital SLR every third year for the
> amount of money I spent on the gelatine. And that didn't include the
> cost of scanning.
> 
> I just did a quick look around the web for prices on film and
> processing in Norway. I used to shoot Provia a lot, so that's what I
> looked for. Assuming 10 exposures per 120mm film, I arrived at a cost
> of NOK 14,70 per exposure (film and E6 processing), from
> http://www.scandinavianphoto.no/
> 
> It was a bit more challenging to find services for scanning of 120mm
> film, but what I found was pretty scary. NOK 230,- for a raw scan of
> _one_ image. Price more than doubled for the "pro" treatment,
> including digital dust removal:
> http://www.farvelabben.no/filmscanning.html
> 
> Excluding scanning, a Pentax 645D would break even with film cost at
> roughly 5800 exposures.
> 
> I hope for your sake the Danish market has less hostile prices... :-)
> 
> Of course there are loads of other factors to consider, such as time
> spent in workflow, cost of auxillary hardware (computers, archivning,
> etc.) and expected time to obsolence, but It could be worth doing,
> Jens.
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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Jens]

Yes, I quite happy with the FA* 2.8 28-70mm AL. It acturally outperforms many 
of my primes, except maybe my Limited lenses such as the 43mm and 77mm - and of 
cource my old 1.8 85mm, whic is the best portrait lens I've had so far.

I do understand now, thanks to the answers from PDML members, that judging the 
quality/resolution/sharpness of my Pentax 67 images, will very much depend on 
which scanner I will be using for scanning my P67 negs and slides.

I will soon receive the Velvia, Astia and Ektar films from the lab - all 
exposed through the shutter of a Pentax 67.
I will let you know how the images turned out - canned on the Epson Perfection 
3200 Photo scanner.
I may chose to get some scannes done at my lab.

Meanwhile I'll hopefully be playing with a bran new K-5 :-)

Regards
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On Jan 1, 2011 20:32 "paul stenquist"  wrote:
> On Jan 1, 2011, at 2:27 PM, Jens wrote:
> > I'm not sure Paul, but since it a studio recording done at appr. the
> > same time, I guess it the same aperture - F 13 or perhaps F11.
> > 
> > Next time I shall:
> > 
> > 1. Make sure the conditions are very close to being exactly the
> > same.
> > 2. Use new 120 film (Kodak Ektar 100 or Fuji Astia 100)
> > 3. Use a pro-lab for developing
> > 4. Unfortunalely I don't have a por scanner, but I will use my Epson
> > Perfection 3200 Photo, which does deliver reasonably good scans.
> > 
> 
> I scanned on of my 6s7 shots on my 3200 and was reasonably pleased
> with the results. Then, just for grins, a friend of mine scanned the
> same transparency on his Imacon film scanner. The difference in
> sharpness and detail resolution was considerable. No comparison. A
> flatbed scan works with medium format, but it's far from optimum.
> Paul
> 
> > 
> > I may compare the F4 165 mm LS lens to a reasonably sharp 50mm lens
> > for the K-7.
> > I must say I am surprised how sharp the 2.8 28-70mm zoom lens is. It
> > actually beat quite a few primes :-)
> > 
> > Jens
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> > On Jan 1, 2011 20:13 "paul stenquist" 
> > wrote:
> >> I'm surprised the K7 pic is as sharp as it is, given that it was
> >> shot
> >> at f13, where you're going to get a lot of diffusion. Try it at
> >> f5.6
> >> or so. What stop did you shoot the 6x7 pic at. And what lens. You
> >> list
> >> an 80/2.8. I assume you mean the 90/2.8?
> >> Paul
> >> On Jan 1, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Jens wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Thank you all for you rinterest in responding and answering my
> >>> question.
> >>> I have done some samll tests, that didin't turn out too well. But
> >>> I
> >>> was using old film and a questionable lab for developing.
> >>> My result is shown at flickr.
> >>> I photographed a sitting girl (in full figure) filling out the
> >>> frame
> >>> with my K-7 and with my 67. I enlarged one eye to be able to
> >>> evaluate the resolution and sharpness:
> >>> K-7:
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204650099/in/set-7215762546143
> >>> 41
> >>> 40/
> >>> 67: 
> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5204621235/in/set-7215762546143
> >>> 41
> >>> 40/
> >>> 
> >>> In my small, not too well done ,test it seems that the K-7 is
> >>> doing
> >>> rather well.
> >>> In order to convince myself, that I should keep on using the 67
> >>> (insted of selling it) I need results that show, that the 67
> >>> delivers reslults that are superior to those of the K-7.
> >>> 
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> >>> Jens 
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Re: PESO - Smoking

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 00:02 -0500, "frank theriault"
 wrote:
> I don't usually shoot "street people", but I made an exception here.
> Hopefully you'll agree that this was a shot worth taking despite the
> breach of privacy (obscured somewhat, at least, by the steam):
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/smoking.html
> 


Yes, definitely worth taking.  Like Dave, I think the two men on the
left give balance to the composition.


Cheers

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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[paul stenquist]

I shot a wedding for some very close friends I gave them the files, some pics 
and a wedding book as a gift. For a friend of a friend, who I knew quite well, 
I gave them the files and a few pics and charged them $300. In your case, if 
the person is a close friend and is paying for your travel, I'd insist on doing 
it for free. If you have a DSLR, I'd avoid renting one you're not familiar 
with. Work with a camera you know and use every day.
Paul

On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:45 AM, John Celio wrote:

> A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering
> my room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since
> they're friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some
> minor edits (rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift. 
> Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to
> charge.  I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it
> should at least cover that (a couple hundred bucks).
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> John
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PESO First Post

[Larry Colen]

I saw this and it made me chuckle:
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Still more on Vivian Maier

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On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:27 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/6/2011 5:24:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> bran.everseek...@sasktel.net  writes:
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/01/cam
> era-of-the-year-2010.html

The above led me to this at the same site. 
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html
There is some discussion about what her status should be in the realm of 
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Re: I don't suppose we have a pdml member in N. Munich?

[eckinator]

as in North Munich, Germany?

2011/1/9 Darren Addy :
> Or does a PDML-er have a good friend or relative in N. Munich?
> I'm sure the chances are between Slim and None, but if there is one or
> more, please contact me. Thanks.
>
> Darren Addy
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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[mike wilson]

Tell her you will match the lowest quote she gets or you will do it
for "free".  Make sure she understands that the quality will not be
any different in either case nor, in either case, will you have
insurance.  Then let her make her own mind up.

On 09/01/2011, John Celio  wrote:
> A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering
> my room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since
> they're friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some
> minor edits (rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift.
> Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to
> charge.  I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it
> should at least cover that (a couple hundred bucks).
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[eckinator]

If you've never done it for a paying customer and depending how much
you value her friendship, you may want to take Cotty's advice or give
her the appropriate warnings. Personally I've never shot a wedding and
the only way I'd agree to do it is if I'm not the only one.
Cheers
Ecke

2011/1/9 John Celio :
> A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering
> my room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since
> they're friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some
> minor edits (rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift.
> Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to
> charge.  I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it
> should at least cover that (a couple hundred bucks).
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[Bong Manayon]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Celio  wrote:
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

Cotty's advice works...but if you're a "friend" enough to want to do
it, my advice is to ask them what are their expectations from you.
They might actually expect the "works" when all you were thinking of
was giving the soft copy of the photos--then you're in trouble.

In the event they want the "works" then charge them for the cost of
the prints, albums including whatever else you may rent or hire.

There are cases where I have been asked by friends and relatives to
give the service as a "gift" and I would agree to do it only if ...

1) I don't spend anything...so their expectations must match the
output: soft copies are free but prints are not.

2) I am treated as a guest who happens to be taking photos and not as
a hired professional.  The quality of the work would not differ, of
course, but I expect to be treated differently (subject to a lot of
cultural nuances--being perhaps the only one from the Philippines may
make my experiences quite unique).

Cheers!

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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

[David J Brooks]

I'm still trying to find 3 i like to send. Its a god thing i'm going
to get 1 anyway.:-)
Hope every one likes blue jays or cemeteries.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> After just a week since opening for submissions we have 14
> photographers and 8 countries represented. And some really stunning
> photography. I'm already working on some cool page designs for this
> year's book so upload your images soon at
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
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Re: PESO - Smoking

[David J Brooks]

Excellent

Dave

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:02 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> I don't usually shoot "street people", but I made an exception here.
> Hopefully you'll agree that this was a shot worth taking despite the
> breach of privacy (obscured somewhat, at least, by the steam):
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/smoking.html
>
> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO First Post

[David J Brooks]

It made me laugh

Dave

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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OT Firefox and favorites

[David J Brooks]

I'm just in the process of getting the iMac going. I have been looking
and searching to find out how to copy and import my firefox favorites
from the iBook to the iMac when i upload Firefox to it.
I can find out how to export from IE  but those links are not visible
when i look for export  in fire fox.
Any tips. I am not looking forward to hand balming these.

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Watched batteries

[Luiz Felipe]

Boris, do accept the offer - I just can't wait to see the K-5 at work in those 
same conditions... I won't jump out of any windows if the K-5 proves much 
better than the K-r...

...well, maybe one at ground level...

Luiz Felipe
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full story below:

This thought (seriously) did cross my mind. If nothing clears up within 
reasonable period of time and the prices go down as it was said they 
might, I could indeed ask you for such a favor.

Boris


On 1/7/2011 9:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> Luiz's camera is here. I supposes that watched batteries charge in
> about the same way that watched pots boil.
>
> Now, I just need to convince Boris to send me the money to buy a K-5
> for him, test and ship it.  Boris, I promise to give it a good,
> thorough and long test.
>
> -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com sent from i4est



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My last roll of Kodachrome

[Bob Sullivan]

I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.

I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5 & 31mm.
As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(

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Re: Miserere, check your off list email

[Miserere]

On 9 January 2011 02:22, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
> cheers, Christine

Roger that!


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Re: OT Firefox and favorites

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I am not a big user of FireFox, but I believe the way to do this is
the following:

- Go to the Bookmarks menu
- Pick "Organize Bookmarks"
- Click on the third button on the toolbar (top) ...

You should see a submenu with "Backup...", "Restore" menu, "Import
HTML...", "Export HTML...".

- Choose "Backup...", pick a location, and it will write a .json file there.

- Move that file to the iMac.
- Open FireFox, go to the Bookmarks organizer tool
- Pick "Choose File..." from the bottom of the '"Restore" menu' noted above

Firefox will now import all your bookmarks replacing whatever current
set of bookmarks it has.


On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:18 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I'm just in the process of getting the iMac going. I have been looking
> and searching to find out how to copy and import my firefox favorites
> from the iBook to the iMac when i upload Firefox to it.
> I can find out how to export from IE  but those links are not visible
> when i look for export  in fire fox.
> Any tips. I am not looking forward to hand balming these.
>
> Dave
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Re: Any new info on K-5 sensor stains?

[Miserere]

On 6 January 2011 23:11, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Has anyone heard anything more than "some of the K-5s have spots on their 
> sensors, and Pentax says they'll do something about it"?
>
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I've not heard anything more from my official channels; Pentax Germany
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Re: OT Firefox and favorites

[Miserere]

Dave,

The best method, which also gives you an added layer of security by
storing your bookmarks offsite, is by using Xmarks:

http://www.xmarks.com

I have 4 computers and am able to keep all my bookmarks synchronised
amongst them thanks to this neat add-on.

Cheers,


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On 9 January 2011 10:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I am not a big user of FireFox, but I believe the way to do this is
> the following:
>
> - Go to the Bookmarks menu
> - Pick "Organize Bookmarks"
> - Click on the third button on the toolbar (top) ...
>
> You should see a submenu with "Backup...", "Restore" menu, "Import
> HTML...", "Export HTML...".
>
> - Choose "Backup...", pick a location, and it will write a .json file there.
>
> - Move that file to the iMac.
> - Open FireFox, go to the Bookmarks organizer tool
> - Pick "Choose File..." from the bottom of the '"Restore" menu' noted above
>
> Firefox will now import all your bookmarks replacing whatever current
> set of bookmarks it has.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:18 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> I'm just in the process of getting the iMac going. I have been looking
>> and searching to find out how to copy and import my firefox favorites
>> from the iBook to the iMac when i upload Firefox to it.
>> I can find out how to export from IE  but those links are not visible
>> when i look for export  in fire fox.
>> Any tips. I am not looking forward to hand balming these.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: Watched batteries

[Paul Stenquist]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

> Boris, do accept the offer - I just can't wait to see the K-5 at work in 
> those same conditions... I won't jump out of any windows if the K-5 proves 
> much better than the K-r...

I don't think the K-5 is noticeably better in terms of noise. The advantages 
lie elsewhere, probably in exposure accuracy, autofocus, resolution, 
weatherproofing, and perhaps dynamic range. I don't think you'll  see much 
difference in a comparison of web-sized images.

Paul

> 
> ...well, maybe one at ground level...
> 
> Luiz Felipe
> luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br
> http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe
> 
> full story below:
> 
> This thought (seriously) did cross my mind. If nothing clears up within 
> reasonable period of time and the prices go down as it was said they 
> might, I could indeed ask you for such a favor.
> 
> Boris
> 
> 
> On 1/7/2011 9:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Luiz's camera is here. I supposes that watched batteries charge in
>> about the same way that watched pots boil.
>> 
>> Now, I just need to convince Boris to send me the money to buy a K-5
>> for him, test and ship it.  Boris, I promise to give it a good,
>> thorough and long test.
>> 
>> -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com sent from i4est
> 
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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[Bob Sullivan]

wise advice...

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:54 AM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> I shot a wedding for some very close friends I gave them the files, some pics 
> and a wedding book as a gift. For a friend of a friend, who I knew quite 
> well, I gave them the files and a few pics and charged them $300. In your 
> case, if the person is a close friend and is paying for your travel, I'd 
> insist on doing it for free. If you have a DSLR, I'd avoid renting one you're 
> not familiar with. Work with a camera you know and use every day.
> Paul
>
> On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:45 AM, John Celio wrote:
>
>> A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering
>> my room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since
>> they're friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some
>> minor edits (rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift.
>> Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to
>> charge.  I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it
>> should at least cover that (a couple hundred bucks).
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
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Re: OT Firefox and favorites

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I am not a big user of FireFox, but I believe the way to do this is
> the following:
>
> - Go to the Bookmarks menu
> - Pick "Organize Bookmarks"
> - Click on the third button on the toolbar (top) ...

Ah ha. Thats were that menu is hidden. I am thankful for help sites
but i just wish they would write them for people like me.:-)


>
> You should see a submenu with "Backup...", "Restore" menu, "Import
> HTML...", "Export HTML...".
>
> - Choose "Backup...", pick a location, and it will write a .json file there.
>
> - Move that file to the iMac.
> - Open FireFox, go to the Bookmarks organizer tool
> - Pick "Choose File..." from the bottom of the '"Restore" menu' noted above
>
> Firefox will now import all your bookmarks replacing whatever current
> set of bookmarks it has.

Book marks are no on the iMac.

Dave
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:18 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> I'm just in the process of getting the iMac going. I have been looking
>> and searching to find out how to copy and import my firefox favorites
>> from the iBook to the iMac when i upload Firefox to it.
>> I can find out how to export from IE  but those links are not visible
>> when i look for export  in fire fox.
>> Any tips. I am not looking forward to hand balming these.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

[drd1135]

My favorites!
-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

I'm still trying to find 3 i like to send. Its a god thing i'm going
to get 1 anyway.:-)
Hope every one likes blue jays or cemeteries.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> After just a week since opening for submissions we have 14
> photographers and 8 countries represented. And some really stunning
> photography. I'm already working on some cool page designs for this
> year's book so upload your images soon at
> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Miserere]

On 9 January 2011 10:44, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
> They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
> I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.
>
> I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
> Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5 & 31mm.
> As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
> Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(
>
> Regards,  Bob S.

Any scans for us to see?


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Re: More on Vivian Maier

[Eric Weir]

On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> was there a link?

Yes, in the message with the link to the video. Here it is again: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragstamp/with/3155991381/

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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Charles Robinson]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:21, Miserere wrote:

> On 9 January 2011 10:44, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
>> They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
>> I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.
>> 
>> I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
>> Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5 & 31mm.
>> As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
>> Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(
>> 
>> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> Any scans for us to see?
> 

I just *knew* someone was going to ask him for scans.  For my money, there is 
no more-difficult film to scan than Kodachrome.

 -Charles

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RE: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[J.C. O'Connell]

never use an unfamiliar camera for a wedding...

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Celio
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:45 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: What to charge for a friend's wedding


A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering my
room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since they're
friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some minor edits
(rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift. 
Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to charge.
I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it should at least
cover that (a couple hundred bucks).

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
John

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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> I just *knew* someone was going to ask him for scans.  For my money, there is 
> no more-difficult film to scan than Kodachrome.

lol ... I'm scanning the roll of Ilford XP2 Super I put through the
Trip 35 and had processed yesterday. I'm using the Nikon LS-40 with
automated 35mm 6-exposure strip feeder. Not hard to scan, but damn ...
I'd forgotten how tedious and slow this process is. I should have set
up the copystand and captured them as raw files with the camera ...
;-)
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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Bob Sullivan]

Miserere,
I suppose I could fire up the scaner.
But I might have to find the software first to load it on the new machine.
Part of the joy of Kodachrome is in the details,
and my scanning skills will never do it justice.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> On 9 January 2011 10:44, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
>> They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
>> I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.
>>
>> I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
>> Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5 & 31mm.
>> As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
>> Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(
>>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> Any scans for us to see?
>
>
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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[George Sinos]

A long time ago a pro wedding photographer told me that when working
for friends, he either does it for free or charges double.  Either
way, the friend would end up mad.

GS

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On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:45 AM, John Celio  wrote:
> A friend asked me to shoot her wedding next August.  They'll be covering
> my room and board for a few days in a very nice location, and since
> they're friends, I figured I'd just give 'em the photo files (with some
> minor edits (rotating, color balance, etc)) for free as a wedding gift.
> Well, the bride insisted I charge them, but I have no idea what to
> charge.  I'm probably going to rent a K5 for this, so I suppose it
> should at least cover that (a couple hundred bucks).
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
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PESO: the weight of the world

[Subash]

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5560232050031788402

taken with my new old A 100/4 which i quite enjoy using... would love
to hear your comments

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RE: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Chris Mitchell]

Bob Sullivan wrote
> Sent: 09 January 2011 16:54
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> Subject: Re: My last roll of Kodachrome
> 
> Miserere,
> I suppose I could fire up the scaner.
> But I might have to find the software first to load it on the new
> machine.
> Part of the joy of Kodachrome is in the details,
> and my scanning skills will never do it justice.
> Regards, Bob S.

All round to your place for a slideshow in the basement then!

Chris (remembering a similar visit to see Jostein's snowy pictures last May
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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I occasionally get nostalgic and think I want to work with film again.
Then I shoot a roll of film, have it processed, and work through the
scanning business. After that, and after I look at the photos the
process creates, I put the film camera away until the next time I feel
nostalgic.

Going through the cycle yet again right now. I've been scanning this
roll of XP2 Super from the Olympus Trip 35. Two hours and some just to
get the scanning done with a mostly automated process. It's a
delightful camera, I like shooting with it. The photos it made are
lovely. But I'm done once more with film.

I'll be going for a walk soon and will carry ... the Olympus E-5.
Hopefully the Fuji X100 will live up to my expectations, it would be
nice to have a camera like the Trip 35 for when I want something
smaller and lighter to knock about with.



On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Jens  wrote:
> Good point Godfrey.
>
> To me is more an economical issue.
> I own a large collection of Pentacon Six /Carl Zeiss Jena/Schneider 
> Kreutznach lenses.
> I got this 10-15 years ago (ebay) after selling my Rolleiflex (man, was that 
> great), since I needed interchangeable lenses.
>
> The Pentacon Six really does deliver great results, but:
> 1. The Pentacon doesn't have a built in lightmeter in the prisma. So it's 
> really only for studio work. But more important:
> 2. I just can't seem to learn how to compose square images - so, I wanted a 
> rectangular format - like 6x7.
>
> So finally, as the price tags seemed to drop a lot, I got a nice deal on a 
> Pentax 67 + 2.8 90mm lens, a few weeks ago.
> Aftewards I have bought a Pentax 300mm and a Pentax 4.0 165mm LS lens for 
> flash photography. Now I only miss a 45mm or 55mm :-)
>
> So, I'm selliong my Pentacon Six equipment shortly
>
> The first reason I got a Pentax 67 is, that I can't afford a Pentax 645D :-))
> In Europe this will cost 20,000 USD with one lens.
> I would have to be a full time pro in order to convince my wife, I need this 
> :-)
>
> The 645D would cost me money (interest), since I don't have 20 grand to many 
> lying arrond, even if it's not in use, for a while.
> The 67 will only cost me money, when ever I have a paying customer to take 
> care of the bills (film, development etc.)
>
> So, until I win the lottery, I will use medium format as long as I can 
> convince myself, that it will deliver results superior to my K20D or K-7 (and 
> (hopefully soon) the K-5).
>
> I bought the Petnax 67 from a pro rental studio, that didn't really want it 
> anymore. At this studio, I could see film  wrappings lying on the floor here 
> and there - which means: Pros still use film - at least to some extend.
>
> Reagrds
> Jens
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Dec 31, 2010 18:30 "Godfrey DiGiorgi"  wrote:
>> Thinking about it further, the real and only reason to shoot with
>> Medium Format film today is, for me, to work with the very different
>> coupling of Field of View and Depth of Field it affords compared to
>> small-format (FourThirds, APS-C and so-called "full frame) digital
>> cameras.
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OT LR3 Catalogues

[David J Brooks]

iMac seems to be up and running fine.

Now, a question re LR3.

 I installed the up grade to LR3.3 on this new machine, seems to be fine.
I hooked up my external HD and imported the last saved catalogue from
a week ago. It seems to have loaded, but when i click on a file on the
left side menu, i get thumbnails with no pictures, it shows the pencil
and other icons that i edited the file and gave it keywords etc.. I
then went to the ? mark to locate the file on the back up drive, found
it and selected it and it then gives me a "no file/photo found" on the
screen. Not sure whats up here. It did the first one OK, but none of
the rest i have done are found.
Do i have to go to each file and "find" the storage for it.??or is there a batch


Moving on to install PSCS hope that works.

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PAW Week 1

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:  Probably not a good idea to do this after DagT's ultra 
stunning year of PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of course, 
but mainly by the discipline requisite for such a project.  As I mentioned 
when I first joined the PDML, I'm flawed:  I like geese, and my degree of 
discipline needs to be enlarged.


Of course, as you all are probably thinking right now, the decision to 
commit to PAW led to a camera bag problem.  As you know, I am a girl, and 
girls carry purses; I've never carried the kitchen-sink variety, but I am 
woman enough to feel better when my few items are neatly organized in a 
fashionable purse that's comfortably totable.  But since returning to 
photography 4 years ago, I've had nothing but a camera bag-and-purse 
problem--one that leaves me cursing the gods and glaring at cute puppies and 
small children.


And PAW presents yet another unique camera bag problem.  I needed a bag that 
could tote my purse stuff and a camera and single lens because I want to 
carry a camera with a single lens everyday.  And it has to be sleek and slim 
and some what fashionable--though I didn't have my hopes up for much 
fashion.


Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, and I'm all giddy--the 
Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here it is: 
http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-83N 
The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!



Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

Cheers, Christine 



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Re: OT LR3 Catalogues

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

What do you mean "imported the last saved catalogue from a week ago"?

- If you have the Lightroom catalog folder AND the the original image
files on the same external drive, you just open the .LRCAT file on
that drive with Lightroom and everything should work fine.

- If you have moved the Lightroom catalog folder to the internal hard
drive of the iMac, you right-click on the topmost* folder shown in the
Lightroom Library module, Folders panel and use the "Update Folder
Location..." function to pilot to the topmost folder on the external
drive volume. Then everything should work fine.

* by "topmost" I mean the folder in your image file hierarchy which
contains all the other folders in which your original image files are
stored. You might need to right-click on the folders in the Folders
panel and use the "Add Parent Folder" command iteratively until all
folders are contained under a single topmost folder.

I have an download on http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles which relates
to this ... click on "08 - Lightroom - Moving a large number of files"
as the concepts and operations required are the same.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:25 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> iMac seems to be up and running fine.
>
> Now, a question re LR3.
>
>  I installed the up grade to LR3.3 on this new machine, seems to be fine.
> I hooked up my external HD and imported the last saved catalogue from
> a week ago. It seems to have loaded, but when i click on a file on the
> left side menu, i get thumbnails with no pictures, it shows the pencil
> and other icons that i edited the file and gave it keywords etc.. I
> then went to the ? mark to locate the file on the back up drive, found
> it and selected it and it then gives me a "no file/photo found" on the
> screen. Not sure whats up here. It did the first one OK, but none of
> the rest i have done are found.
> Do i have to go to each file and "find" the storage for it.??or is there a 
> batch
>
>
> Moving on to install PSCS hope that works.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: FS: SMC 75-205 f4.5, ME Super body, A 50 2.0, M 50 1.4, GraLab 451, more

[P. J. Alling]

That's because, it's priceless.

On 1/8/2011 8:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Funny, but there were no prices anywhere in that "for sale" post.




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RE: Still more on Vivian Maier

[Bob W]

> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/0
> 1/cam
> > era-of-the-year-2010.html
> 
> The above led me to this at the same site.
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_i
> ndex.html
> There is some discussion about what her status should be in the realm
> of photography.

When I first saw her work after the link was posted here I thought about
that question. The other 'discovered too late' photographer who came to my
mind is not Atget but E J Belloq and also Lartigue. 

I think that Ken Tanaka is wrong to say "Maier can never be recognized [...]
mainly because she worked in utter isolation and influenced nothing in her
time" because she may influence people now that she has been discovered, if
her work has enough that is new. 

Similarly I think he is wrong to say "That is, her work is outstanding but
not important in the historical narrative of photography". I think it's too
early to tell - we haven't seen enough of the stuff yet, and we haven't seen
it for long enough to see what, if any, impact it might have.

My view is that she probably _will_ become an interesting footnote, rather
like Belloq, but Belloq's work has been influential and it is important. 

If she had been 'in the game' at the time the other great Chicago
photographers were then it would have been a different story altogether.

B


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RE: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Bob W]

> I occasionally get nostalgic and think I want to work with film again.
> Then I shoot a roll of film, have it processed, and work through the
> scanning business. After that, and after I look at the photos the
> process creates, I put the film camera away until the next time I feel
> nostalgic.
> 
> Going through the cycle yet again right now. I've been scanning this
> roll of XP2 Super from the Olympus Trip 35. Two hours and some just to
> get the scanning done with a mostly automated process. It's a
> delightful camera, I like shooting with it. The photos it made are
> lovely. But I'm done once more with film.
> 

Someone ought to invent digital film...

> I'll be going for a walk soon and will carry ... the Olympus E-5.
> Hopefully the Fuji X100 will live up to my expectations, it would be
> nice to have a camera like the Trip 35 for when I want something
> smaller and lighter to knock about with.

I can't remember whether you had an E-3 or went straight from the E-1 to the
E-5. If you had an E-3, do you think the E-5 has major advantages over it?

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Re: January PUG is up!

[Christine Aguila]

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 


http://pug.komkon.org/



Great gallery!  I'm with most people; so many great shots--hard to pick 
favorites.  Skill, technique very high in this 1st PUG for 2011.  And I 
notice some new names!  Excellent!  Thanks so much for your work, Brian, and 
looking forward to the next gallery!  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: enablement - hood advice sought - fs friday late entry

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/8/2011 9:01 PM, eckinator wrote:  The plastic clip on hood that 
came with the 85mm f2.0 and 100mm f2.8 works well with a 50mm on APS-C.

got my first manual focus prime in the mail yesterday, smc-m 50/1.7 in
great shape.
can anyone recommend a 49 mm screw on or clip on hood to use with it please?
cheers
ecke
ps: was part of a kit consisting of one ME, one ME-Super, one takumar
bayonet zoom 80-200/4.5, tokina sz-x 357 35-70/3.5-4.8, hanimex 28/2.8
and pentax af160 flash plus my third novoflex auto-bellows. really
need to sell two as well as have the other stuff up for grabs, none of
it is of use to me at this time. contact me off list if interested




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RE: OT LR3 Catalogues

[Bob W]

> iMac seems to be up and running fine.
> 
> Now, a question re LR3.
> 
>  I installed the up grade to LR3.3 on this new machine, seems to be
> fine.
> I hooked up my external HD and imported the last saved catalogue from
> a week ago. It seems to have loaded, but when i click on a file on the
> left side menu, i get thumbnails with no pictures, it shows the pencil
> and other icons that i edited the file and gave it keywords etc.. I
> then went to the ? mark to locate the file on the back up drive, found
> it and selected it and it then gives me a "no file/photo found" on the
> screen. Not sure whats up here. It did the first one OK, but none of
> the rest i have done are found.
> Do i have to go to each file and "find" the storage for it.??or is
> there a batch
> 

Steve Jobs has taken all your photos and now you owe him royalties.

B

> 
> Moving on to install PSCS hope that works.
> 
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Stylin' and Not

[P. J. Alling]

I thought that Peter Boyle had died...

On 1/8/2011 8:56 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

A coffee shop portrait

K-5, DA* 60-135, f11, ISO 3200

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12217970&size=lg




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RE: PAW Week 1

[Bob W]

> Hi Everyone:  Probably not a good idea to do this after DagT's ultra
> stunning year of PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of
> course,
> but mainly by the discipline requisite for such a project.  As I
> mentioned
> when I first joined the PDML, I'm flawed:  

I'm floored! I thought you were perfect!


I like geese, and my degree
> of
> discipline needs to be enlarged.
> 

Cotty can help you with that. He can be very stern, and likes a nice gaggle.

> As you know, I am a girl,

that probably explains the bumps.

[...]
> 
> Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, 

Mark!

> and I'm all giddy--
> the
> Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here it is:
> http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-
> 83N
> The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!
> 

I've had one of those for about 10 years. I used to carry it every day to
work and it now looks well used, very faded a bit tatty and quite cool, but
I've never found it useful as a camera bag.

> 
> Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

Nice shot, keep 'em coming.

B


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Re: Pentax K-r and QC (update)

[P. J. Alling]

I only read it for the special tips and techniques section...

On 1/8/2011 5:48 PM, Bob W wrote:

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Ken Waller



If all else fails read the f**king manual !


that only helps if you don't know how to f**k

B





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Re: PESO: The Drum Major Redux

[P. J. Alling]

He tells everyone he still wears the same pants size as he did in college...

On 1/8/2011 9:44 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

I like this better. It focuses one's attention on the interesting figure.
Paul

On Jan 8, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Cropped version to focus more on the drum major himself:

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=54

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Re: PAW Week 1

[Cotty]

On 9/1/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, and I'm all giddy--the
>Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here it is:
>http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-83N
>The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!

You'd be surprised what you can stuff into the 803...



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Re: PAW Week 1

[Cotty]

On 9/1/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
>http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

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Re: PESO: the weight of the world

[Jack Davis]

Very good IQ! Background blur well done.

Jack

--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Subash  wrote:

> From: Subash 
> Subject: PESO: the weight of the world
> To: "PDML" 
> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 9:01 AM
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5560232050031788402
> 
> taken with my new old A 100/4 which i quite enjoy using...
> would love
> to hear your comments
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Re: GESO - Chicago White Sox

[Christine Aguila]

Love this!
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/WhiteSox/slides/_IGP2431.html

We don't "water wickets" in the States; we hose down the infield  :-)
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/WhiteSox/slides/_IGP2428.html

Fun, fun, fun group, Chris!  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
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To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 7:01 AM
Subject: GESO - Chicago White Sox


Nearly finished sorting out 2010 pictures. We went to a baseball game 
while

we were in Chicago for the PDML exhibition.

Didn't have a clue what was going on for most of the time, but enjoyed it
thoroughly. People were friendly and tried to help us make sense of the
proceedings and the atmosphere was fantastic. There was even a band 
playing
when we got there, They were called Petty Cash and, bizarrely, did a 
mixture

of Tom Petty and Johnny Cash covers. Sounds like someone came up with a
great name for a band and then thought "what material shall we do?".

The last picture is the lost opportunity - if only I'd got the lady and 
her

granddaughter in focus!
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/WhiteSox/

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Re: OT LR3 Catalogues

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> What do you mean "imported the last saved catalogue from a week ago"?

I clicked on the last .LRCAT file i have on the external. It then said
it would be updated to reflect the LR3 version.
I can now see all of my folders on the left side, including the All
Photos at the very top which has 6146 photos which is about right.

When i click on a folder, I can see the thumbnail boxes but no
pictures. I then click on the ? in the upper right corner to find the
location on the external. I click on said file and then i get a blank
screen saying no photos found in folder. The file then shows 0 photos,
and before i went to find these it shows the actual number of photo
beside the files.

Not sure what i'm doing wrong here.

Dave
>
> - If you have the Lightroom catalog folder AND the the original image
> files on the same external drive, you just open the .LRCAT file on
> that drive with Lightroom and everything should work fine.
>
> - If you have moved the Lightroom catalog folder to the internal hard
> drive of the iMac, you right-click on the topmost* folder shown in the
> Lightroom Library module, Folders panel and use the "Update Folder
> Location..." function to pilot to the topmost folder on the external
> drive volume. Then everything should work fine.
>
> * by "topmost" I mean the folder in your image file hierarchy which
> contains all the other folders in which your original image files are
> stored. You might need to right-click on the folders in the Folders
> panel and use the "Add Parent Folder" command iteratively until all
> folders are contained under a single topmost folder.
>
> I have an download on http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles which relates
> to this ... click on "08 - Lightroom - Moving a large number of files"
> as the concepts and operations required are the same.
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:25 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> iMac seems to be up and running fine.
>>
>> Now, a question re LR3.
>>
>>  I installed the up grade to LR3.3 on this new machine, seems to be fine.
>> I hooked up my external HD and imported the last saved catalogue from
>> a week ago. It seems to have loaded, but when i click on a file on the
>> left side menu, i get thumbnails with no pictures, it shows the pencil
>> and other icons that i edited the file and gave it keywords etc.. I
>> then went to the ? mark to locate the file on the back up drive, found
>> it and selected it and it then gives me a "no file/photo found" on the
>> screen. Not sure whats up here. It did the first one OK, but none of
>> the rest i have done are found.
>> Do i have to go to each file and "find" the storage for it.??or is there a 
>> batch
>>
>>
>> Moving on to install PSCS hope that works.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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What to charge for a friend's wedding

[Luiz Felipe]

Quite a number of sound ideas and advices so far, so I might only add: beware 
of Murphy. Of course, you are welcome to keep reading the rest.

Around here a wedding photo album offers great cash values AND still greater 
responsibility. Fail to do the job and you have a life-long enemy squad. 
Failure includes not meeting expected styles and key shots... do ask them 
exactly what they want, with example if possible. If it's not in your grasp 
(need extra hands, special gear, not a style you are ok with), do tell them. 

- trusted, adequate gear and suitable backup, including batteries and cards - 
rented gear may have lower batt life than expected, not to mention other 
issues. Proving the rented gear was the problem will not be enough...

- helping hands are welcome, but asking for the 16-50 and getting the 15mm is a 
problem, not to mention the possible dropping of stuff while both are looking 
at the bride's best friend. A friend of mine almost lost his Xti when a helping 
hand tried to insert the second card inverted...

As long as I love helping friends and taking photos, I'm too rusty for a proper 
wedding job these days, and even if the Kr came home today I'd need to train 
myself to its layout. Later I'd probably be at ease with the gear, so I would 
probably accept, as long as the expected kind of photo is within my ability and 
gear - and since I don't know the ceremony well enough I'd insist on being 
present at any rehersals, discussing the photo ops with the couple. Wouldn't 
charge at all, accepting only high value, third party costs. 

PLS beware of Murphy - he managed to put my car on fire on the way to a job, 
causing me to arrive at the church covered in white powder, a few seconds 
before the bride - who accepted to take a third round-the-square car ride while 
I shook the worst of the powder from me and my bag. No adittional events, 
couple smiling during and after getting the prints, but I decided to call a 
break after that, sold the Hasselblad rather cheap and burned the clothing - 
not accepting the risk of poisoning anyone by throwing it off. Did rebuild the 
car - was a small fire and I carry two extinguishers.

Luiz Felipe
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Re: GESO - Canadian Hats Week 4

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent!  Great expression and bw rendering.  When did those kinds of hats 
become popular.  I was at the Vivian Maier opening reception Friday night 
and bunches of folks, mostly young, were wearing them.  While I love the 
photo, I don't see the attraction to the hat.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: GESO - Canadian Hats Week 4


Only four new shots for Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats this week
(short week due to the holidays.  Here's my fave:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/2011/01/blog-post_08.html

(scroll down and click on the image)

Here's the blog:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

Hope you enjoy!

cheers,
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Re: Pesos: two shots

[Christine Aguila]

I prefer the 2nd one.  You might want to tweak the rendering just a bit to 
give it more  pop.  Cheers, Christine



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I never went back to these pictures.  I'm trying to decide between them.
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

Any suggestions?

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Re: PAW Week 1

[Jack Davis]

In support of your "giddy", may it adds to your photo swagger and protect your 
treasures. ;)

Jack

--- On Sun, 1/9/11, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila 
> Subject: PAW Week 1
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 9:33 AM
> Hi Everyone:  Probably not a
> good idea to do this after DagT's ultra stunning year of
> PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of course,
> but mainly by the discipline requisite for such a
> project.  As I mentioned when I first joined the PDML,
> I'm flawed:  I like geese, and my degree of discipline
> needs to be enlarged.
> 
> Of course, as you all are probably thinking right now, the
> decision to commit to PAW led to a camera bag problem. 
> As you know, I am a girl, and girls carry purses; I've never
> carried the kitchen-sink variety, but I am woman enough to
> feel better when my few items are neatly organized in a
> fashionable purse that's comfortably totable.  But
> since returning to photography 4 years ago, I've had nothing
> but a camera bag-and-purse problem--one that leaves me
> cursing the gods and glaring at cute puppies and small
> children.
> 
> And PAW presents yet another unique camera bag
> problem.  I needed a bag that could tote my purse stuff
> and a camera and single lens because I want to carry a
> camera with a single lens everyday.  And it has to be
> sleek and slim and some what fashionable--though I didn't
> have my hopes up for much fashion.
> 
> Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, and I'm
> all giddy--the Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh,
> am I happy.  Here it is: 
> http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-83N
> The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans. 
> Yee Ha!
> 
> 
> Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
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Re: PESO - January Bouquet

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, Paul.  Technically well executed with very strong interest.  Love 
it.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - January Bouquet



K-5, DA* 60-250/4, f11 @ 1/320, ISO 640, 128mm

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12217850&size=lg

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Re: PESO First Post

[Christine Aguila]

That is funny!  Cheers, Christine


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I saw this and it made me chuckle:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5338966962/
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Re: More on Vivian Maier

[Ann Sanfedele]

Eric Weir wrote:


On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 


was there a link?
   



Yes, in the message with the link to the video. Here it is again: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragstamp/with/3155991381/

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ah thanks...
He's definitely into _homage_.
I liked very much many of his .. so now I'm feeling bad about my 
original comment :-)

Also nostalgic -- I haven't done enough street stuff lately.

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Re: More on Vivian Maier

[Eric Weir]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Eric Weir wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>>> was there a link? 
>> 
>> Yes, in the message with the link to the video. Here it is again: 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragstamp/with/3155991381/
> 
> ah thanks...
> He's definitely into _homage_.
> I liked very much many of his .. so now I'm feeling bad about my original 
> comment :-)
> Also nostalgic -- I haven't done enough street stuff lately.

Well, I can't call it nostalgia. Maybe envy is more appropriate. But I went 
looking for TLR camera's this morning. Quickly decided Rollei's are out of my 
league. Yashica D, or maybe 124 or 124G, is more like it. And not now. Need to 
stay focused on what my DS can teach me.

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Re: More on Vivian Maier

[Ann Sanfedele]

Eric Weir wrote:


On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 


Eric Weir wrote:

   


On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 

was there a link? 
   


Yes, in the message with the link to the video. Here it is again: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ragstamp/with/3155991381/
 


ah thanks...
He's definitely into _homage_.
I liked very much many of his .. so now I'm feeling bad about my original 
comment :-)
Also nostalgic -- I haven't done enough street stuff lately.
   



Well, I can't call it nostalgia. Maybe envy is more appropriate. But I went 
looking for TLR camera's this morning. Quickly decided Rollei's are out of my 
league. Yashica D, or maybe 124 or 124G, is more like it. And not now. Need to 
stay focused on what my DS can teach me.

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eew...@bellsouth.net
 


Eric - at my age, everything is nostalgia :-)
But in the 70's and 80's is when  did street stuff most  but but
You certainly can do street photography with your DS, and as someone 
pointed out earlier, you don't need to be
in da big city. Note that Bob w's recent street stuff that he said 
he liked best were done with a cell phone.


Pun indended, I assume, in your last line

ann



 




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Watched batteries

[Luiz Felipe]

Well, I'd hope they have much in common. Still, there should be some diff at 
sensor level, or DXOMARK wouldn't give them diff rankings (82 vs. 72).

I do agree with your point, Paul. The K-5 advantage will most probably be 
noticed only in more extreme situations. Still, I suspect there will some 
moments where it will be decisive. Not that I expect to be in one of those 
situations anytime soon... :-(

Luiz Felipe
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quick history:::
On Jan 9, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

> Boris, do accept the offer - I just can't wait to see the K-5 at work in 
> those same conditions... I won't jump out of any windows if the K-5 proves 
> much better than the K-r...

I don't think the K-5 is noticeably better in terms of noise. The advantages 
lie elsewhere, probably in exposure accuracy, autofocus, resolution, 
weatherproofing, and perhaps dynamic range. I don't think you'll  see much 
difference in a comparison of web-sized images.

Paul


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help needed with pentax software and card reader

[Ann Sanfedele]

Ok  so it is true confessions time.  I'm totally flummoxed by something 
I though I should be able to figure out.


First of all  I want to let you guys know that one of you, Steve 
Desjardins to be precise, loaned me an elderly  DSL - indefinitely _
a PENTAX - so I can honestly take photos for PUG  now instead of diggin 
gup stuff my my archives all the time and
can use full Pentax for the next PDML book.  and even maybe get onto the 
Pentax online gallery, if I have the patience.
While I'm eternally grateful to my friend, I'm hitting some snags using 
the equipment.


So here is my problem... the loaner is an ist d  - and I have the 
software loaded for PEntax Browser and Pentax Lab...
but I don't have the cord that goes from the camera into the USB2 
port... couldn't find one anywhere.  However, I
do ahve a little card reader - a Targus  that takes the cf cards the ist 
d uses.  

I couldnt make things go with the card reader.  the computer recognized 
the hardware  it said.  

So I took the card out of the D and put it in my canon rebel and voila! 
I was able to read and download all the jpg files
I had shot with the D.   But then I set the camera to do RAW and 
couldn't download that way.  

When I attach the card reader  I hear the bell that tells me the 
computer knows somethign is there but I don't know which pentax stuff to

open to connect with it...

I've been using the Canon zoom Browser for everything .. and I'm used to 
just doing it directly from the camera.


Can someone plese talk to me like I was a totaly neophite and tell me 
step by step  what to do to get the images from
the card reader?   I don't know what the computer calls the card reader..  

I need to get the PEF files on and then I imagine I can open them with 
Adobe Elements...  I"d like to be able to extract the jpgs too.


Ive got Windoze XP, Elements 5.0  .

Oddly, I got the card reader to respond at one point but using the Canon 
software and I ahve NO idea how it happened... I
really can't remember what ive done from one minute to the next unless 
ive done it at least twenty times.


T I A
now I'm going out to shoot for a bit

ann



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Re: Still more on Vivian Maier

[Steven Desjardins]

People can always come up with esoteric reasons why things can't be
true even when the contrary is obvious.  Maier can be a great
photographer simply based on her own work, influence be damned.  But
even that makes little sense.  She can now influence the way we see
Chicago during her time and her style can influence modern
photographers.

Just to note, I have only seen a small sample of her work which I
found to be very compelling.  I'm not ready to beatify her yet but I
would like to judge her on her work and not her place in someone's
theories.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/0
>> 1/cam
>> > era-of-the-year-2010.html
>>
>> The above led me to this at the same site.
>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_i
>> ndex.html
>> There is some discussion about what her status should be in the realm
>> of photography.
>
> When I first saw her work after the link was posted here I thought about
> that question. The other 'discovered too late' photographer who came to my
> mind is not Atget but E J Belloq and also Lartigue.
>
> I think that Ken Tanaka is wrong to say "Maier can never be recognized [...]
> mainly because she worked in utter isolation and influenced nothing in her
> time" because she may influence people now that she has been discovered, if
> her work has enough that is new.
>
> Similarly I think he is wrong to say "That is, her work is outstanding but
> not important in the historical narrative of photography". I think it's too
> early to tell - we haven't seen enough of the stuff yet, and we haven't seen
> it for long enough to see what, if any, impact it might have.
>
> My view is that she probably _will_ become an interesting footnote, rather
> like Belloq, but Belloq's work has been influential and it is important.
>
> If she had been 'in the game' at the time the other great Chicago
> photographers were then it would have been a different story altogether.
>
> B
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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

[P. J. Alling]

I believe that God has little to do with it.

On 1/9/2011 9:59 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

I'm still trying to find 3 i like to send. Its a god thing i'm going
to get 1 anyway.:-)
Hope every one likes blue jays or cemeteries.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

After just a week since opening for submissions we have 14
photographers and 8 countries represented. And some really stunning
photography. I'm already working on some cool page designs for this
year's book so upload your images soon at
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php


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Re: Still more on Vivian Maier

[Darren Addy]

Keep in mind that the works on the blog have apparently been selected
BY MALOOF, who was not even into photography before his discovery. Now
either he is a "natural" curator with an excellent eye, or he has
relied on some "help", or her work is just empiracally and obviously
excellent. What we have seen is only a small fraction of the images
she has produced, but an impressive fraction.

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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[P. J. Alling]

Now's the time to start a "Bring Back Kodachrome movement", before all 
the processing equipment is scrapped.  It won't work, but any time in 
the future it will be too late.


On 1/9/2011 10:44 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.

I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5&  31mm.
As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(

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Re: More on Vivian Maier

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On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Pun indended, I assume, in your last line

Actually not, but thanks for calling it to my attention. Caused a spontaneous 
little chuckle at myself.

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Re: enablement - hood advice sought - fs friday late entry

[P. J. Alling]

Actually I wrote about the clip, I should really pay attention to where 
the cursor is before I start to type.  Then again I should probably 
proof read these posts too...


On 1/9/2011 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 1/8/2011 9:01 PM, eckinator wrote:  The plastic clip on hood that 
came with the 85mm f2.0 and 100mm f2.8 works well with a 50mm on APS-C.

got my first manual focus prime in the mail yesterday, smc-m 50/1.7 in
great shape.
can anyone recommend a 49 mm screw on or clip on hood to use with it 
please?

cheers
ecke
ps: was part of a kit consisting of one ME, one ME-Super, one takumar
bayonet zoom 80-200/4.5, tokina sz-x 357 35-70/3.5-4.8, hanimex 28/2.8
and pentax af160 flash plus my third novoflex auto-bellows. really
need to sell two as well as have the other stuff up for grabs, none of
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Re: I don't suppose we have a pdml member in N. Munich?

[Darren Addy]

Yes: Munich northern district, Germany

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Re: PESO: the weight of the world

[P. J. Alling]

Nice and sharp.  I work with A lenses all the time, what's not to like?

On 1/9/2011 12:01 PM, Subash wrote:

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5560232050031788402

taken with my new old A 100/4 which i quite enjoy using... would love
to hear your comments




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Re: GESO - Canadian Hats Week 4

[P. J. Alling]

You found a refugee from the '50's.

On 1/8/2011 6:42 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Only four new shots for Real Canadians Wearing Real Hats this week
(short week due to the holidays.  Here's my fave:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/2011/01/blog-post_08.html

(scroll down and click on the image)

Here's the blog:

http://realcanadianhats.blogspot.com/

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Re: PAW Week 1

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/9/2011 12:50 PM, Bob W wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Probably not a good idea to do this after DagT's ultra
stunning year of PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of
course,
but mainly by the discipline requisite for such a project.  As I
mentioned
when I first joined the PDML, I'm flawed:

I'm floored! I thought you were perfect!


I like geese, and my degree

of
discipline needs to be enlarged.


Cotty can help you with that. He can be very stern, and likes a nice gaggle.


As you know, I am a girl,

that probably explains the bumps.

[...]

Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag,

Mark!


That won't last since she admitted she's a girl...


and I'm all giddy--
the
Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here it is:
http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-
83N
The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!


I've had one of those for about 10 years. I used to carry it every day to
work and it now looks well used, very faded a bit tatty and quite cool, but
I've never found it useful as a camera bag.


Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

Nice shot, keep 'em coming.

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Re: PAW Week 1

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/9/2011 12:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Hi Everyone:  Probably not a good idea to do this after DagT's ultra 
stunning year of PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of 
course, but mainly by the discipline requisite for such a project.  As 
I mentioned when I first joined the PDML, I'm flawed:  I like geese, 
and my degree of discipline needs to be enlarged.


Of course, as you all are probably thinking right now, the decision to 
commit to PAW led to a camera bag problem.  As you know, I am a girl, 
and girls carry purses; I've never carried the kitchen-sink variety, 
but I am woman enough to feel better when my few items are neatly 
organized in a fashionable purse that's comfortably totable.  But 
since returning to photography 4 years ago, I've had nothing but a 
camera bag-and-purse problem--one that leaves me cursing the gods and 
glaring at cute puppies and small children.


And PAW presents yet another unique camera bag problem.  I needed a 
bag that could tote my purse stuff and a camera and single lens 
because I want to carry a camera with a single lens everyday.  And it 
has to be sleek and slim and some what fashionable--though I didn't 
have my hopes up for much fashion.


Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, and I'm all 
giddy--the Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here 
it is: 
http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-83N 
The dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!


I stopped buying bags after number four, there is no perfect bag.




Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

Cheers, Christine




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Re: help needed with pentax software and card reader

[John Francis]

The one big thing is that you will have to give up using Canon Zoom
Browser; that program can't handle RAW files from a Pentax camera.

But not to worry.

When you plug your CF card reader into your USB slot, it shows up
as an external hard drive (probably drive E:).

If you've got things set up so that Zoom Browser gets started
automatically to try to transfer files, don't worry; just exit
out of Zoom Browser.

Go to "My Computer" (probably there's an Icon for this on the
desktop; if not, you can get there easily from the "Start" menu).
You'll see a drive there in the section "Drives with Removable
Storage" - click on that and you'll see the drive.  Your images
will be down a couple of levels of folders (probably called
DCIM and Pentax100).

Once you get there, you can drag-and-drop the images (JPEGs,
PEFs, etc.) to wherever you want them to be on your hard drive.
You'll then be able to open them up and look at them with any
editing program, the Pentax browser software, or whatever.


On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 01:54:13PM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> Ok  so it is true confessions time.  I'm totally flummoxed by
> something I though I should be able to figure out.
> 
> First of all  I want to let you guys know that one of you, Steve
> Desjardins to be precise, loaned me an elderly  DSL - indefinitely _
> a PENTAX - so I can honestly take photos for PUG  now instead of
> diggin gup stuff my my archives all the time and
> can use full Pentax for the next PDML book.  and even maybe get onto
> the Pentax online gallery, if I have the patience.
> While I'm eternally grateful to my friend, I'm hitting some snags
> using the equipment.
> 
> So here is my problem... the loaner is an ist d  - and I have the
> software loaded for PEntax Browser and Pentax Lab...
> but I don't have the cord that goes from the camera into the USB2
> port... couldn't find one anywhere.  However, I
> do ahve a little card reader - a Targus  that takes the cf cards the
> ist d uses.
> 
> I couldnt make things go with the card reader.  the computer
> recognized the hardware  it said.
> 
> So I took the card out of the D and put it in my canon rebel and
> voila! I was able to read and download all the jpg files
> I had shot with the D.   But then I set the camera to do RAW and
> couldn't download that way.
> 
> When I attach the card reader  I hear the bell that tells me the
> computer knows somethign is there but I don't know which pentax
> stuff to
> open to connect with it...
> 
> I've been using the Canon zoom Browser for everything .. and I'm
> used to just doing it directly from the camera.
> 
> Can someone plese talk to me like I was a totaly neophite and tell
> me step by step  what to do to get the images from
> the card reader?   I don't know what the computer calls the card
> reader..
> 
> I need to get the PEF files on and then I imagine I can open them
> with Adobe Elements...  I"d like to be able to extract the jpgs too.
> 
> Ive got Windoze XP, Elements 5.0  .
> 
> Oddly, I got the card reader to respond at one point but using the
> Canon software and I ahve NO idea how it happened... I
> really can't remember what ive done from one minute to the next
> unless ive done it at least twenty times.
> 
> T I A
> now I'm going out to shoot for a bit
> 
> ann
> 
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Re: OT LR3 Catalogues

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> What do you mean "imported the last saved catalogue from a week ago"?
>
> I clicked on the last .LRCAT file i have on the external. It then said
> it would be updated to reflect the LR3 version.
> I can now see all of my folders on the left side, including the All
> Photos at the very top which has 6146 photos which is about right.
>
> When i click on a folder, I can see the thumbnail boxes but no
> pictures. I then click on the ? in the upper right corner to find the
> location on the external. I click on said file and then i get a blank
> screen saying no photos found in folder. The file then shows 0 photos,
> and before i went to find these it shows the actual number of photo
> beside the files.
>
> Not sure what i'm doing wrong here.

Ok, I think i may have found out what the deal is here.

I did not scroll all the way down the file folders on the left hand
side. I guess after i picked a folder and went and showed LR where the
new location was, in my back up 4 external disk, it then made a NEW
folder under Backup-4.

A huge D'oh.

Thanks for the assistance Godfry and thanks for the vote of confidence Bob.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:13 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> I believe that God has little to do with it.

Well, i do follow him on Twitter, so just maybe

Dave
>
> On 1/9/2011 9:59 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> I'm still trying to find 3 i like to send. Its a god thing i'm going
>> to get 1 anyway.:-)
>> Hope every one likes blue jays or cemeteries.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>>>
>>> After just a week since opening for submissions we have 14
>>> photographers and 8 countries represented. And some really stunning
>>> photography. I'm already working on some cool page designs for this
>>> year's book so upload your images soon at
>>> http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php
>>>
>>>
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>>> www.robertstech.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: PAW Week 1

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
h
>
>
> Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
>
> Cheers, Christine

Very nice. love it.

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Re: More on Vivian Maier

[Eric Weir]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> You certainly can do street photography with your DS, and as someone pointed 
> out earlier, you don't need to be
> in da big city.

Oh, I know that. It was just the silliness of wanting a camera like hers -- as 
if that would make a damn bit of difference.

In researching TLR cameras this morning I came across this:
http://www.frugalphotographer.com/info-frugal_photo-FAQ.htm#So...what%20exactly%20is%20frugal%20photography?

Scroll down to "So...what exactly is frugal photography?" 

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Re: PESO: the weight of the world

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Subash  wrote:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5560232050031788402
>
> taken with my new old A 100/4 which i quite enjoy using... would love
> to hear your comments
>
> --
> regards, subash

Very nice. Good colours and composition as well as background.

This was viewed on the new iMac, no screen colour sync set up yet, but
looks great

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Re: 645D fiddling

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:31 AM, Cotty wrote:

> On 8/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> * Jostein does not like LV, Video and in-camera PPP's (post-processing
>> presets)...
> 
> Count me in too.

When I got my K-x, I did not at all care about the video, but I've found it a 
pleasant surprise. I find that there are times when I'm photographing an event 
and realize that it would be handy to have video of it, and it's nice to be 
able to just use the camera already in my hand. I've also been blown away by 
the quality of the video that it takes.

These are the video equivalent of snapshots, done by someone who doesn't know 
video, under challenging light conditions:
http://www.youtube.com/user/henryofarad#p/u


In short, I find Video to be handy a couple times a month.  LV would be handy 
if it worked a bit better, and it would be very handy with a swivel monitor.  
I've never even tried the in camera processing, though I once did try the in 
camera HDR.

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Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Adam Maas]

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Gasha  wrote:
>
> Pentax 67 takes a lot more time to shoot.
> If you walk around with your friens, you can shoot something with digital
> SLR.
>
> In contrast, when you walk with Pentax 67 (and tripod), you cannot take your
> friends with you :)
>
> Gasha
>

You certainly can walk around taking pictures with a 67. During the
brief period I had mine I shot about 20 rolls handheld and 3-4 rolls
on a tripod. Got good results when shooting handheld.

I'd still recommend a Mamiya 7 or GS/GSW670 for the dedicated handheld
shooter but the 67 can do it just fine.

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Re: Re: Pentax 67 resolution compared to 15 MP Digital

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I occasionally get nostalgic and think I want to work with film again.
> Then I shoot a roll of film, have it processed, and work through the
> scanning business. After that, and after I look at the photos the
> process creates, I put the film camera away until the next time I feel
> nostalgic.
>
> Going through the cycle yet again right now. I've been scanning this
> roll of XP2 Super from the Olympus Trip 35. Two hours and some just to
> get the scanning done with a mostly automated process. It's a
> delightful camera, I like shooting with it. The photos it made are
> lovely. But I'm done once more with film.
>
> I'll be going for a walk soon and will carry ... the Olympus E-5.
> Hopefully the Fuji X100 will live up to my expectations, it would be
> nice to have a camera like the Trip 35 for when I want something
> smaller and lighter to knock about with.
>

Ironically I've come to feel the same way about digital as you do
about film. I still shoot some digital (Event work and the occasional
desire to shoot for myself) but I keep going back to film for my
personal shooting. 159 rolls last year and I expect to shoot more this
year.

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Re: 645D fiddling

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> On 1/8/2011 3:17 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>>
>> I find the video mildly useful and entertaining on the K-5. Wouldn't
>> want it on a 645D. Don't use any presets or post processing. I have
>> used live view when necessary to get a shot, and it works well on the
>> K-5. Paul
>
> I don't think that video and/or live view is technologically viable on 645D.
> Consider the power consumption of the unit during video recording. May be
> some day they will come up with a sensor that can be powered up only
> partially, say in the center. Then we might get medium format cameras
> shooting video. Alternatively they still owe us power supply revolution
> /grin/.
>
> Boris

The sensor is not capable of LV or video. Which is a distinct loss in
the case of Live View (which is a superb innovation as it turns your
DSLR into a miniature view camera, complete with a built-in magnifier.
Absolutely awesome when working on a tripod).

Personally I could care less about video. Ditto for in-camera
processing and its multiple variations.

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Re: Watched batteries

[Larry Colen]

On Jan 9, 2011, at 7:20 AM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

> Boris, do accept the offer - I just can't wait to see the K-5 at work in 
> those same conditions... I won't jump out of any windows if the K-5 proves 
> much better than the K-r...
> 
> ...well, maybe one at ground level...


Luiz,  I am quite confident that you will not be disappointed by the 
performance of the K-r.

The first 5 of these are hand held, ISO 3200 between 1/6 and 1/13 second.  The 
next 10 are using the 540 flash bounced off the ceiling at ISO 200, and the 
last two are with the K-x at ISO 2000:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625785261974/

Besides, a K-r in your hands will take much better pictures than half a K-5 in 
your savings account.

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Re: Pentax K-r and QC (update)

[mike wilson]

On 09/01/2011, Ken Waller  wrote:
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob W" 
> Subject: RE: Pentax K-r and QC (update)
>
>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>>> Ken Waller
>>
>>
>>> If all else fails read the f**king manual !
>>>
>>
>> that only helps if you don't know how to f**k
>
> Don't need no manual for that !

Quite a few of the people I work with apparently _only_ use manual for that.

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Re: PAW Week 1

[paul stenquist]

Excellent shot. An interesting juxtaposition and, of course, my favorite 
football team. I like the warm tonality as well.
Paul
On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:  Probably not a good idea to do this after DagT's ultra stunning 
> year of PAW, but I was inspired by his photographic eye, of course, but 
> mainly by the discipline requisite for such a project.  As I mentioned when I 
> first joined the PDML, I'm flawed:  I like geese, and my degree of discipline 
> needs to be enlarged.
> 
> Of course, as you all are probably thinking right now, the decision to commit 
> to PAW led to a camera bag problem.  As you know, I am a girl, and girls 
> carry purses; I've never carried the kitchen-sink variety, but I am woman 
> enough to feel better when my few items are neatly organized in a fashionable 
> purse that's comfortably totable.  But since returning to photography 4 years 
> ago, I've had nothing but a camera bag-and-purse problem--one that leaves me 
> cursing the gods and glaring at cute puppies and small children.
> 
> And PAW presents yet another unique camera bag problem.  I needed a bag that 
> could tote my purse stuff and a camera and single lens because I want to 
> carry a camera with a single lens everyday.  And it has to be sleek and slim 
> and some what fashionable--though I didn't have my hopes up for much fashion.
> 
> Well, I found the what seems to be the perfect bag, and I'm all giddy--the 
> Domke F803 camera satchel.  Oh my gosh, am I happy.  Here it is: 
> http://www.tiffen.com/displayproduct.html?tablename=domke&itemnum=701-83N The 
> dark navy will go with my very best blue jeans.  Yee Ha!
> 
> 
> Anyway, here's the 1st post for week one.
> http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
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Is a P5 worth anything?

[Larry Colen]

Saw this ad on craigslist:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html
$30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash 

I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is probably 
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Re: Is a P5 worth anything?

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:53 -0800, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
> Saw this ad on craigslist:
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html
> $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash 
> 
> I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is
> probably worth the $30.


Well, the 50 1.7 is certainly worth $30, if it's in good nick.

I liked the P5 (P50 here).  It was my workhorse camera for quite a few
years in the 1980s/90s.  I always liked the look and feel of it. It had
its limitations (no manual setting of ISO; no TTL flash; no manual
shutter speed, so without batteries it was cactus) but, for what I was
doing with it, those things weren't important to me.  I still have it.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: My last roll of Kodachrome

[Brian Walters]

On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:53 -0600, "Bob Sullivan" 
wrote:
> Miserere,
> I suppose I could fire up the scaner.
> But I might have to find the software first to load it on the new
> machine.
> Part of the joy of Kodachrome is in the details,
> and my scanning skills will never do it justice.
> Regards, Bob S.



Remember we have a 'Memories of Kodachrome' theme for the April
PUG..



Cheers

Brian

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> 
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> > On 9 January 2011 10:44, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> >> I took 2 rolls into my local photo shop on December 28th.
> >> They called with the processed slides on Thursday and
> >> I picked them up on Saturday, January 8th.
> >>
> >> I shot snow scenes with the MZ-S and 77mm limited.
> >> Same subject matter I have been shooting with the K-5 & 31mm.
> >> As always, the Kodachrome is sparkling.
> >> Damn!  I'm gonna miss that film.  ;-(
> >>
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > Any scans for us to see?
> >
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Re: OT Firefox and favorites

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:18:50 -0500
David J Brooks  wrote:

> Any tips. I am not looking forward to hand balming these.

install xmarks and or firefox synch can move bookmarks cookies and
passwords. as well as keep them backed up.

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Re: help needed with pentax software and card reader

[Ann Sanfedele]

John Francis wrote:


The one big thing is that you will have to give up using Canon Zoom
Browser; that program can't handle RAW files from a Pentax camera.

Yeah I already discoverd that... it can't slide show even canon raw 
files _ I have to extract

the jpgs to slideshow it.


But not to worry.

When you plug your CF card reader into your USB slot, it shows up
as an external hard drive (probably drive E:).


E is occupied with a 500 gig hard drive :-)
however F is what comes up...


If you've got things set up so that Zoom Browser gets started
automatically to try to transfer files, don't worry; just exit
out of Zoom Browser.


No not automatic...


Go to "My Computer" (probably there's an Icon for this on the
desktop; if not, you can get there easily from the "Start" menu).
You'll see a drive there in the section "Drives with Removable
Storage" - click on that and you'll see the drive.  Your images
will be down a couple of levels of folders (probably called
DCIM and Pentax100).


I found it but it doesnt say "drives with Removable storage" anywhere...



Once you get there, you can drag-and-drop the images (JPEGs,
PEFs, etc.) to wherever you want them to be on your hard drive.
You'll then be able to open them up and look at them with any
editing program, the Pentax browser software, or whatever.

actually I selected  all then copied them into a folder I made with the 
date...

It went so fast I thought only one image was copied!

I had a ton of choices to make when the computer recognized the card 
reader...
I just had been selecting things before that didnt work.  


Thanks, John...
Now I can shoot raw!

ann




On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 01:54:13PM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 


Ok  so it is true confessions time.  I'm totally flummoxed by
something I though I should be able to figure out.

First of all  I want to let you guys know that one of you, Steve
Desjardins to be precise, loaned me an elderly  DSL - indefinitely _
a PENTAX - so I can honestly take photos for PUG  now instead of
diggin gup stuff my my archives all the time and
can use full Pentax for the next PDML book.  and even maybe get onto
the Pentax online gallery, if I have the patience.
While I'm eternally grateful to my friend, I'm hitting some snags
using the equipment.

So here is my problem... the loaner is an ist d  - and I have the
software loaded for PEntax Browser and Pentax Lab...
but I don't have the cord that goes from the camera into the USB2
port... couldn't find one anywhere.  However, I
do ahve a little card reader - a Targus  that takes the cf cards the
ist d uses.

I couldnt make things go with the card reader.  the computer
recognized the hardware  it said.

So I took the card out of the D and put it in my canon rebel and
voila! I was able to read and download all the jpg files
I had shot with the D.   But then I set the camera to do RAW and
couldn't download that way.

When I attach the card reader  I hear the bell that tells me the
computer knows somethign is there but I don't know which pentax
stuff to
open to connect with it...

I've been using the Canon zoom Browser for everything .. and I'm
used to just doing it directly from the camera.

Can someone plese talk to me like I was a totaly neophite and tell
me step by step  what to do to get the images from
the card reader?   I don't know what the computer calls the card
reader..

I need to get the PEF files on and then I imagine I can open them
with Adobe Elements...  I"d like to be able to extract the jpgs too.

Ive got Windoze XP, Elements 5.0  .

Oddly, I got the card reader to respond at one point but using the
Canon software and I ahve NO idea how it happened... I
really can't remember what ive done from one minute to the next
unless ive done it at least twenty times.

T I A
now I'm going out to shoot for a bit

ann



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Re: What to charge for a friend's wedding

[John Celio]

?> Quite a number of sound ideas and advices so far, so I might

only add: beware of Murphy. Of course, you are welcome to
keep reading the rest.


Thanks for the responses, everyone.  Just to clear a few things up:

- If I could own a K-5 (or K-7) before the wedding, I would, but I don't 
think I can afford to yet.  I am going to borrow a friend's K-7 for an event 
I'm shooting in April, so I should be able to learn my way around that body 
design easily.  Back at my old camera shop job, I had to learn new cameras 
very quickly to be able to sell them, so I'm not too worried it.


- My K10D is woefully inadequate for shooting weddings.  Horrible noise in 
low light coupled with back-focusing with nearly all my lenses, I am so 
frustrated with the damn thing I rarely take pictures at all these days.  I 
will bring it as a backup, though.


- I've shot a wedding before and did alright. I explained to the bride that 
I am not a professional, but she seems okay with that.  She doesn't want an 
album or any fancy editing, so I'm not looking to charge much.


I like the idea of finding out what low quotes she got, so I might just ask 
her about that.


Thanks again for the advice,
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Is a P5 worth anything?

[Luiz Felipe]

well, the P5 is quite an interesting camera with the drawbacks listed by Brian 
below. The 50mm in question looks like either a K or M 50mm, and the price is 
rather interesting - a clean one in BR goes somewhere between $70 and $130.

I'd rather an A/ FA 50mm myself, actually. I'm quite happy with my m50 1.7, but 
sometimes being able to work in auto aperture would be very interesting. 

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History goes...
On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:53 -0800, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
> Saw this ad on craigslist:
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/pho/2144182087.html
> $30 for P5, m50/1.7, Rikenon 35-70mm 1:3.5-4.5, and a small flash 
> 
> I expect that the zoom isn't really worth anything, and the 50/1.7 is
> probably worth the $30.


Well, the 50 1.7 is certainly worth $30, if it's in good nick.

I liked the P5 (P50 here).  It was my workhorse camera for quite a few
years in the 1980s/90s.  I always liked the look and feel of it. It had
its limitations (no manual setting of ISO; no TTL flash; no manual
shutter speed, so without batteries it was cactus) but, for what I was
doing with it, those things weren't important to me.  I still have it.


Cheers

Brian



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