DP initial review of K-3 III

[Henk Terhell]

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Toine]

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell  wrote:
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express.
I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen.
For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user.
As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my 
crystal ball.
I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier 
carrying than my K-1.
 Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future 
Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax 
box or 4) forget about APS-C.


Henk

Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell  wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

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I do too, Mike .spooky and ominous.. Also, I found several that looked 
overdone on the HDR side.  AND since he is photographing what I consider 
my my main territory, I feel he could have found more interesting 
facades in those same towns.. But what irks me most is that he is not 
--identifying the towns that he is showing here--. Now I thought perhaps 
that is the fault of the publisher of the article about him.. perhaps he 
has them captioned or indexed in his book .but  I looked at the 
collectionon his web site (and liked several of the photos there that 
were not in the article.).  but he didn't ID the locations.


He talks about the endless variety he sees crossing america but doesn't 
present it.  sigh.. but I will get some amusement out of them..
finding a few of the towns with googles  help using the signage on the 
buildings..


ann


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On 3/30/2021 3:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:



On 30 March 2021 at 08:09 Henk Terhell  wrote:


Fascinating night scenes in this BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-56253450

I find those vaguely disturbing.  Can't make my mind up if it's the hint of 
post-apocalypse or the thought that just out of view is a LEO, one hand on his nightstick 
and the other on his gun, intoning "You ain't from around here, are you, 
sonny?" before invoking some local ordinance that means you will never seen daylight 
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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

[ann sanfedele]

SO I just spent a bit of time this morning finding the locations in the 
article.  all but two of them... I suspect Freeman didn't just happen on 
some these particular places.

google ye selves and you'll see what I mean...

The Mohawk Theatre  -  North Adams, Massachusetts
McManus Pharmacy -  Nyack, New York  (Edward Hopper's birthplace and 
boyhood home )

The Barber Shop and Supply at 140 Main - Nyack, New York
Ramsey Movie Theatre is in Ramsey, New Jersey (even has a web page!)
Sam's Too Shoe Center is in Brattleboro, Vermont (locally famous and loved)

Mt Carmel Trust and Savings, -  Mt. Carmel Illinois
Mom's Cafe  is in Salina, Utah (googled Mom's cafe on state street and 
got there in a flash)


If anyone can read more signage that I could in the one with the Vintage 
sign on the thrift store or the writing on the post office "S 
Mountain" I bet I

can locate those as well.

On 3/31/2021 8:21 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Sad that my first thought is of inhospitality, when I suspect most of the 
denizens of these places probably pride themselves on the opposite.  It just 
shows what the effect of a few loonys can have on an area's reputation.  Or it 
demonstrates my inability to think beyond the stereotype.

On 31 March 2021 at 11:24 ann sanfedele  wrote:

I do too, Mike .spooky and ominous.. (snip). AND since he is photographing what 
I consider my my main territory, I feel he could have found more interesting 
facades in those same towns.. But what irks me most is that he is not 
--identifying the towns that he is showing here--. (snip a few lines)

He talks about the endless variety he sees crossing america but doesn't present 
it. ...(snip)

ann
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On 3/30/2021 3:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 30 March 2021 at 08:09 Henk Terhell  wrote:

Fascinating night scenes in this BBC article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-56253450

I find those vaguely disturbing. ... (snipped a bit see Mike's orig post)

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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

[John]

I don't think I've ever had that happen. The few times I have been approached by 
security or law enforcement I'd show them little TV on the back of the camera 
and start to explain about THE LIGHT ...


They get bored and leave.

I have been asked about *PHOTOGRAPHING CHILDREN*

There's a lake at a city park that frequently has Blue Herons & the greenway 
down to where I can see the birds goes past a playground that's screened off.


I always deliberately /misunderstand/ and hand them a business card ...

"I'm retired, but I'll do it for you. The session fee is $300 for one hour & 
minimum print order $1000 & you have to sign a contract before I start work ... 
here's my phone number, call me when you're ready to sign."


Effin Karens.

The thing about Daniel Freedman's photos I don't particularly like is the lack 
of captions. They should at least give a City & State.


On 3/30/2021 03:44:08, mike wilson wrote:



On 30 March 2021 at 08:09 Henk Terhell  wrote:


Fascinating night scenes in this BBC article: 
https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-56253450


I find those vaguely disturbing.  Can't make my mind up if it's the hint of
post-apocalypse or the thought that just out of view is a LEO, one hand on
his nightstick and the other on his gun, intoning "You ain't from around
here, are you, sonny?" before invoking some local ordinance that means you
will never seen daylight again.





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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Toine]

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 11:29 Henk Terhell,  wrote:

> Also 2000 euro here at Kamera-Express.
> I would never buy this camera because of the fixed screen.
> For me this is a turning point as a long time Pentax user.
> As Ricoh is looking for a partner with Pentax, I'll search for my
> crystal ball.
> I like an APS-C camera besides FF because of the longer reach and easier
> carrying than my K-1.
>   Options are: 1) get a KP before it is sold out, 2) wait on future
> Pentax models that surely have a tilt screen, 3) look outside the Pentax
> box or 4) forget about APS-C.
>
> Henk
>
> Op 2021-03-31 om 09:43 schreef Toine:
> > 2000 That hurts!
> > The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
> > from USB C only.
> > Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> >> https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
> >> Recommended price is $ 2000.
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Re: PESO skunk cabbage

[Rick Womer]

We lived in Connecticut when I was as teenager, and there was loads of
skunk cabbage in the woods. Made for some rather stinky yard work.

Rick

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 01:18 Larry Colen  wrote:

> It seems that skunk cabbage is pretty much unique to the Oregon coast and
> only blooms at the start of spring.  I stumbled on some this afternoon when
> I took a walk in Beaver Creek park.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51085475587/in/album-72157718828014037/
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> Full set with a small assortment of vegetative fluff
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718828014037
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> All with the K-1 and 28-105
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.


Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses.

My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite
happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't
think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when
that should ever become necessary.

I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II.

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Re: PESO skunk cabbage

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, skunk cabbage is found throughout the Northeast -- if one wants to
find it.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 1:18 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> It seems that skunk cabbage is pretty much unique to the Oregon coast and
> only blooms at the start of spring.  I stumbled on some this afternoon when
> I took a walk in Beaver Creek park.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51085475587/in/album-72157718828014037/
>
> Full set with a small assortment of vegetative fluff
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718828014037
>
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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

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Sad that my first thought is of inhospitality, when I suspect most of the 
denizens of these places probably pride themselves on the opposite.  It just 
shows what the effect of a few loonys can have on an area's reputation.  Or it 
demonstrates my inability to think beyond the stereotype.
> On 31 March 2021 at 11:24 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> I do too, Mike .spooky and ominous.. Also, I found several that looked 
> overdone on the HDR side.  AND since he is photographing what I consider 
> my my main territory, I feel he could have found more interesting 
> facades in those same towns.. But what irks me most is that he is not 
> --identifying the towns that he is showing here--. Now I thought perhaps 
> that is the fault of the publisher of the article about him.. perhaps he 
> has them captioned or indexed in his book .but  I looked at the 
> collectionon his web site (and liked several of the photos there that 
> were not in the article.).  but he didn't ID the locations.
> 
> He talks about the endless variety he sees crossing america but doesn't 
> present it.  sigh.. but I will get some amusement out of them..
> finding a few of the towns with googles  help using the signage on the 
> buildings..
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>   .
> On 3/30/2021 3:44 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >
> >> On 30 March 2021 at 08:09 Henk Terhell  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Fascinating night scenes in this BBC article:
> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-56253450
> > I find those vaguely disturbing.  Can't make my mind up if it's the hint of 
> > post-apocalypse or the thought that just out of view is a LEO, one hand on 
> > his nightstick and the other on his gun, intoning "You ain't from around 
> > here, are you, sonny?" before invoking some local ordinance that means you 
> > will never see daylight again.
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GESO Bob Hunter trials

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York region, along with other border regions, are building quite the trail
system of late. Our camera group, well 4 of us, went to Bob Hunter Trail in
the Rouge river system Tuesday. Still very early landscapes but managed to
eek out some decent shots

Bob Hunter was a local environmental legion and this part of the system is
named after him.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2021-bobhunter/album/index.html

K-5 Sigma 17-70

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Rick Womer]

My longstanding practice has been to wait at least a year before buying a
new camera model. The bugs get ironed out, features get tweaked, and prices
usually drop. I really like my K-5, so am in no hurry.

Rick

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 11:52 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Am 31.03.21 um 17:08 schrieb Toine:
> > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
> > backup KP body to survive a few years.
>
> Methinks Pentax have taken leave of their senses.
>
> My K3 has cost 1300 euros new IIRC. It's still doing fine, I'm quite
> happy with it, and it will hopefully last a few more years. I don't
> think I'd be ready to shell out 2000 euros to replace it, if and when
> that should ever become necessary.
>
> I reckon I'd rather go for a second-hand K3 II.
>
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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

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On 3/31/2021 4:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do too, Mike .spooky and ominous.. Also, I found several that looked 
overdone on the HDR side.  AND since he is photographing what I consider 
my my main territory, I feel he could have found more interesting 
facades in those same towns.. But what irks me most is that he is not 
--identifying the towns that he is showing here--. Now I thought perhaps 
that is the fault of the publisher of the article about him.. perhaps he 
has them captioned or indexed in his book .but  I looked at the 
collectionon his web site (and liked several of the photos there that 
were not in the article.).  but he didn't ID the locations.


He talks about the endless variety he sees crossing america but doesn't 
present it.  sigh.. but I will get some amusement out of them..
finding a few of the towns with googles  help using the signage on the 
buildings..


ann


Some people do this deliberately to try to keep copycats from over 
running the areas where they like to photograph.


I don't know if anyone here remembers the picture that I put into the 
PDML Chicago gallery show from a few years back, it was the one of the 
abandoned school shot through the old swing set.


Apparently a couple of years after I took that picture, some Model 
Mayhem photographer took a girl out there, did a photo session using the 
swing set as the major prop, and after he was done he took a chain saw 
to the structure to ensure no one would be able to copy his magnificent 
work.


I read a story out of Utah a few years ago where some numb nut got a 
nice image of something or other in one of the parks, IIRC, there was a 
fully in bloom cactus in the forground, and after he was done he kicked 
the plant to death, again to ensure none else would be able to get the 
same picture he got.


Obviously, or at least hopefully, no one is going to take a wrecking 
ball to an old building just to ensure none else gets to photograph it, 
but this is the mindset that many people have.


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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

[Bill]

On 3/31/2021 8:28 AM, John wrote:
I don't think I've ever had that happen. The few times I have been 
approached by security or law enforcement I'd show them little TV on the 
back of the camera and start to explain about THE LIGHT ...


They get bored and leave.

I have been asked about *PHOTOGRAPHING CHILDREN*

There's a lake at a city park that frequently has Blue Herons & the 
greenway down to where I can see the birds goes past a playground that's 
screened off.


I always deliberately /misunderstand/ and hand them a business card ...

"I'm retired, but I'll do it for you. The session fee is $300 for one 
hour & minimum print order $1000 & you have to sign a contract before I 
start work ... here's my phone number, call me when you're ready to sign."


Effin Karens.


My soon to be twelve year old grand daughter has taken enough of an 
interest in photography that I upgraded her from my old Q to my almost 
as old K3.

Now she wants to go shooting with me.
If, one day, I simply disappear from the list, it will likely be due to 
some Karen deciding that a somewhat older man hanging out with a 12 year 
old girl is suspicious enough to have me tossed in the local dungeon.


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Re: PESO skunk cabbage

[ann sanfedele]

all nice skunk cabbage portraits and pretty pussy willow..  I spy also 
turkey-tail fungi and staghorn lichen, I believe.


skunk cabbage not just in Oregon as Rick's comment confirms..  but there 
are western and eastern varieties -
I don't ever remember seeing bright yellow ones myself.. but the 
purplish variety I've seen a lot of.. your's is prettier


ann

On 3/31/2021 11:15 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

We lived in Connecticut when I was as teenager, and there was loads of
skunk cabbage in the woods. Made for some rather stinky yard work.

Rick

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 01:18 Larry Colen  wrote:


It seems that skunk cabbage is pretty much unique to the Oregon coast and
only blooms at the start of spring.  I stumbled on some this afternoon when
I took a walk in Beaver Creek park.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/51085475587/in/album-72157718828014037/

Full set with a small assortment of vegetative fluff
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718828014037

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.



The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built 
around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer 
already has an external battery charger.


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote:

I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
backup KP body to survive a few years.



Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate, 
bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS 
sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP.
As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from 
a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell.


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Re: Photographing the "endless diversity" of America by streetlight - Daniel Freedman

[ann sanfedele]

Rereading the photographers comments in the BBC article I see that he 
deliberately left off locations "Freeman prefers not to disclose the 
location of each shot so that the photographs portray a "generic" vision 
and representation of small-town America."  I think that is bull hockey, 
personally.  I'm guessing he didn't take careful notes..

and I also think he got pointed to some of the places...

I kinda remember your story about that model shoot.. but it is a bit 
different   these days.. because of the web everyone has been everywhere...


...  I looked at his web page and all his galleries.. prefer his 
daylight shots but don't think of them as anything special, frankly.


ann

On 3/31/2021 12:42 PM, Bill wrote:

On 3/31/2021 4:24 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
I do too, Mike .spooky and ominous.. Also, I found several that 
looked overdone on the HDR side.  AND since he is photographing what 
I consider my my main territory, I feel he could have found more 
interesting facades in those same towns.. But what irks me most is 
that he is not --identifying the towns that he is showing here--. Now 
I thought perhaps that is the fault of the publisher of the article 
about him.. perhaps he has them captioned or indexed in his book 
.but  I looked at the collectionon his web site (and liked several of 
the photos there that were not in the article.).  but he didn't ID 
the locations.


He talks about the endless variety he sees crossing america but 
doesn't present it.  sigh.. but I will get some amusement out of them..
finding a few of the towns with googles  help using the signage on 
the buildings..


ann


Some people do this deliberately to try to keep copycats from over 
running the areas where they like to photograph.


I don't know if anyone here remembers the picture that I put into the 
PDML Chicago gallery show from a few years back, it was the one of the 
abandoned school shot through the old swing set.


Apparently a couple of years after I took that picture, some Model 
Mayhem photographer took a girl out there, did a photo session using 
the swing set as the major prop, and after he was done he took a chain 
saw to the structure to ensure no one would be able to copy his 
magnificent work.


I read a story out of Utah a few years ago where some numb nut got a 
nice image of something or other in one of the parks, IIRC, there was 
a fully in bloom cactus in the forground, and after he was done he 
kicked the plant to death, again to ensure none else would be able to 
get the same picture he got.


Obviously, or at least hopefully, no one is going to take a wrecking 
ball to an old building just to ensure none else gets to photograph 
it, but this is the mindset that many people have.


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Toine]

Maybe the sensor is something special, no idea, seeing is believing. I
never felt they should be losing money. My feelings: Paying double
(compared to the KP) for a partial upgrade and a partial downgrade
feels strange.
Everytime they claim improved AF, in practice it feels identical
(mediocre). Improved frame rate, buffer, build quality, 4K video
doesn't make me run to the store. Video on Pentax DSLR is an absolute
nightmare compared to the competition.
If the viewfinder and sensor is really special maybe I would bite, but
by then my jaw would be on the floor preventing a firm bite.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 18:59, Bill  wrote:
>
> On 3/31/2021 9:08 AM, Toine wrote:
> > I don't see much improvement over the KP. I'm now in the market for a
> > backup KP body to survive a few years.
> >
>
> Much improved viewfinder, much improved AF, much improved frame rate,
> bigger buffer, much more robust build quality, 4K video, BSI CMOS
> sensor. I'm sure there are many more improvements than that over the KP.
> As always, history repeats itself though. Pentax is still suffering from
> a user base that feels they should be loosing money on everything they sell.
>
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Larry Colen]

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:
>> 2000 That hurts!
>> The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
>> from USB C only.
>> Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.
> 
> The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around 
> an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
> I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has 
> an external battery charger.

Aftermarket chargers aren’t terribly expensive, but I already have several.  I 
often depend on being able to charge multiple extra batteries when I’m not 
shooting with them.

I find the the articulated screen of the K-1 extremely handy, but make do 
without it on my K-3s.

I am somewhat hopeful that all of the performance improvements won’t take 
nearly as long to implement on the K-1 iii as they did on the K-3 iii.  I’m 
also quite certain that they don’t even want to mention the existence of a 
future K-1 iii until sales of the K-3 iii have tapered off.  


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[pentax]

> On 31 Mar 2021, at 18:52, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:
>> 2000 That hurts!
>> The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
>> from USB C only.
>> Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.
> 
> The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around 
> an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
> I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has 
> an external battery charger.
> 

Indeed, I have two of them, the older trusted one that came with the K1 I 
think, and the new one that uses an USB-charger unit. The charger part can be 
connected to camera directly as well, to charge the battery inside. No problem.

The USB charger should be usable for my safari-trip as well, where only USB 
power is available from the CAR batteries ;-)


I pre-ordered a black K3 III, to be used as the main camera on a safari-trip to 
Botswana, with the 150450 attached for wildlife, and also
take the K1 with me as a backup, and to use the 24-70 en 15-30mm on, for 
landscapes.

Glad they both take the same DLI-90 battery


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Alan C]

At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?

Alan C

On 31-Mar-21 07:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Bill  wrote:

On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built around an 
apparently fantastic viewfinder.
I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already has 
an external battery charger.

Aftermarket chargers aren’t terribly expensive, but I already have several.  I 
often depend on being able to charge multiple extra batteries when I’m not 
shooting with them.

I find the the articulated screen of the K-1 extremely handy, but make do 
without it on my K-3s.

I am somewhat hopeful that all of the performance improvements won’t take 
nearly as long to implement on the K-1 iii as they did on the K-3 iii.  I’m 
also quite certain that they don’t even want to mention the existence of a 
future K-1 iii until sales of the K-3 iii have tapered off.



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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Stanley Halpin]

My tentative plan is to sell one of my two K-1ii bodies and to buy the K-3iii 
or some other APS-C body in a month or two.

If anyone wants to buy a used K-1ii, let me know. I will include a charger and 
at least one battery. And an articulating screen.

People keep mentioning the KP as an alternative to the new K-3iii. I never paid 
attention to the KP. What are the merits of the K-3ii vs. KP? One option I have 
considered is buying a used K-3ii in liu of the new release, but would the KP 
be a better alternative? Why?

Stan

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 31-Mar-21 07:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 3/31/2021 1:43 AM, Toine wrote:
 2000 That hurts!
 The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
 from USB C only.
 Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.
>>> The fixed LCD screen was planned from the get go. The camera is built 
>>> around an apparently fantastic viewfinder.
>>> I suspect Ricoh knows their market, and knows that their customer already 
>>> has an external battery charger.
>> Aftermarket chargers aren’t terribly expensive, but I already have several.  
>> I often depend on being able to charge multiple extra batteries when I’m not 
>> shooting with them.
>> 
>> I find the the articulated screen of the K-1 extremely handy, but make do 
>> without it on my K-3s.
>> 
>> I am somewhat hopeful that all of the performance improvements won’t take 
>> nearly as long to implement on the K-1 iii as they did on the K-3 iii.  I’m 
>> also quite certain that they don’t even want to mention the existence of a 
>> future K-1 iii until sales of the K-3 iii have tapered off.
>> 
>> 
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OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[Stanley Halpin]

As seen in the Guardian today, a new phonebook just out: Backroad Buildings. 
Based on the samples in the article (linked below) these are the sort of scenes 
that really resonate with me, and many of my own favorite shots are in this 
genre.


https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/mar/31/americas-backroads-buildings-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[Bob Pdml]

I love that last building, the deco one. Some others with very nice 
architecture too.

> On 31 Mar 2021, at 20:21, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> As seen in the Guardian today, a new phonebook just out: Backroad Buildings. 
> Based on the samples in the article (linked below) these are the sort of 
> scenes that really resonate with me, and many of my own favorite shots are in 
> this genre.
> 
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/mar/31/americas-backroads-buildings-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
> 
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

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Am 31.03.21 um 20:13 schrieb Alan C:

At that price, surely they can afford to include a charger?


The real hoot is the optional hot shoe cover for 50 euros.

https://ac-foto.com/product/o-hc177-hot-shoe-cover

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GESO: Looking back at Galapagos 2018

[Stanley Halpin]

When traveling one of the ways I have tried to share my experiences has been to 
post a few images every day or two on Facebook. Because it is easy to do.
I also have a travel blog, but that is harder to manage when operating in 
low-bandwidth conditions.

So I have quick selections with minimal editing which go to Facebook. Some 
random time later Facebook tells me I should check out my Memories from 
such-and-such a time period and there is a Share button.

I got such a Memories reminder the other day, I did do the Share thing, and a 
few of my Galapagos images went back into Facebook circulation. I decided I 
won’t do that again. Because those were a quick select, minimal editing batch 
of photos. So instead I went back into my Galapagos images, selected a few 
favorites (yes, there was overlap with the set I had posted 3 years ago), di 
some slight editing, and posted those instead of the recycled Memories.

So now I have a Collection in Lightroom of those images from my revisit to 
Galapagos images. So I clicked the icon to Sync that collection. Et voila for 
your viewing pleasure, without any need to put up with Facebook, Galapagos 
2018. Including a Galapagos Flightless Cormorant…

https://adobe.ly/31yiy0D

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Re: OT: Backroad Buildings photo book

[ann sanfedele]

The gas stations do it for me.. and yes, that last photo  of the truck 
stop especially...and that crazy mystery shed!


guess I should start hauling out some of mine in this genre... which I 
actually had started to search for thinking of  next years calendar.


a phonebook, eh?  is this a "thing" now?  books meant to be viewed on 
smartphones?


ann

On 3/31/2021 3:50 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

I love that last building, the deco one. Some others with very nice 
architecture too.


On 31 Mar 2021, at 20:21, Stanley Halpin  wrote:

As seen in the Guardian today, a new phonebook just out: Backroad Buildings. 
Based on the samples in the article (linked below) these are the sort of scenes 
that really resonate with me, and many of my own favorite shots are in this 
genre.


https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2021/mar/31/americas-backroads-buildings-in-pictures?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Bill]

On 3/31/2021 11:15 AM, Toine wrote:

Maybe the sensor is something special, no idea, seeing is believing. I
never felt they should be losing money. My feelings: Paying double
(compared to the KP) for a partial upgrade and a partial downgrade
feels strange.
Everytime they claim improved AF, in practice it feels identical
(mediocre). Improved frame rate, buffer, build quality, 4K video
doesn't make me run to the store. Video on Pentax DSLR is an absolute
nightmare compared to the competition.
If the viewfinder and sensor is really special maybe I would bite, but
by then my jaw would be on the floor preventing a firm bite.




I've seen initial outputs from the new camera. It's not a "partial 
upgrade", and not a downgrade at all.

Of course, you already have your mind made up, which is rather sad.

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PESO Hi-way cafe

[ann sanfedele]

gave you guys a heads up in my reply to Stan's post on the Backroad 
Buildings


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A

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Re: PESO Hi-way cafe

[Bob Pdml]

Beautiful shot, with gorgeous light and colour. Glad you included the Coca Cola 
sign so we could compare scripts...

> On 31 Mar 2021, at 22:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A
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Re: GESO: Looking back at Galapagos 2018

[ann sanfedele]

I do remember some of these.. the sea lion (or os ot a seal?)  with the 
ship in background, the cormy and the blue-footted booby esspecially but 
I missed the shot of the pa-hoi-hoi first time around.  It does rather 
look like.. um..well.. you know.  and ankle twisting stuff to walk on.


ann

On 3/31/2021 4:39 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

When traveling one of the ways I have tried to share my experiences has been to 
post a few images every day or two on Facebook. Because it is easy to do.
I also have a travel blog, but that is harder to manage when operating in 
low-bandwidth conditions.

So I have quick selections with minimal editing which go to Facebook. Some 
random time later Facebook tells me I should check out my Memories from 
such-and-such a time period and there is a Share button.

I got such a Memories reminder the other day, I did do the Share thing, and a 
few of my Galapagos images went back into Facebook circulation. I decided I 
won’t do that again. Because those were a quick select, minimal editing batch 
of photos. So instead I went back into my Galapagos images, selected a few 
favorites (yes, there was overlap with the set I had posted 3 years ago), di 
some slight editing, and posted those instead of the recycled Memories.

So now I have a Collection in Lightroom of those images from my revisit to 
Galapagos images. So I clicked the icon to Sync that collection. Et voila for 
your viewing pleasure, without any need to put up with Facebook, Galapagos 
2018. Including a Galapagos Flightless Cormorant…

https://adobe.ly/31yiy0D

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Re: PESO Hi-way cafe

[ann sanfedele]

Thanks, Bob..  (insert laughing emoji here regarding script comparrison)

This is the full positive.. that is, in camera crop.. not sure if I 
didn't like what was beyond the frame on either side but cola bit had to 
be in.. There
were and are virually no rest stops , cafes, coffee shops or other like 
places without a Coke or Pepsi sign displayed.


On 3/31/2021 5:14 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

Beautiful shot, with gorgeous light and colour. Glad you included the Coca Cola 
sign so we could compare scripts...


On 31 Mar 2021, at 22:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:

gave you guys a heads up in my reply to Stan's post on the Backroad Buildings

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A

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Re: GESO: Looking back at Galapagos 2018

[Bob Pdml]

Wonderful.

As for the cormorants, I’m sure they’re not really flightless, they just can’t 
be bothered.

> On 31 Mar 2021, at 21:39, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> When traveling one of the ways I have tried to share my experiences has been 
> to post a few images every day or two on Facebook. Because it is easy to do.
> I also have a travel blog, but that is harder to manage when operating in 
> low-bandwidth conditions.
> 
> So I have quick selections with minimal editing which go to Facebook. Some 
> random time later Facebook tells me I should check out my Memories from 
> such-and-such a time period and there is a Share button.
> 
> I got such a Memories reminder the other day, I did do the Share thing, and a 
> few of my Galapagos images went back into Facebook circulation. I decided I 
> won’t do that again. Because those were a quick select, minimal editing batch 
> of photos. So instead I went back into my Galapagos images, selected a few 
> favorites (yes, there was overlap with the set I had posted 3 years ago), di 
> some slight editing, and posted those instead of the recycled Memories.
> 
> So now I have a Collection in Lightroom of those images from my revisit to 
> Galapagos images. So I clicked the icon to Sync that collection. Et voila for 
> your viewing pleasure, without any need to put up with Facebook, Galapagos 
> 2018. Including a Galapagos Flightless Cormorant…
> 
>https://adobe.ly/31yiy0D
> 
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OT some of you already know..

[ann sanfedele]

I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day 
misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and 
chills overnight wasn't much fun and
the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not 
quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.


anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide - 
certainly got a lot on FB


It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up 
without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance


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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[Larry Colen]

Having no first hand knowledge here is my assessment.

Just due to the sensor being several Moore’s cycles newer than that K-3 or K-1, 
its raw performance will exceed even that of the K-1.  However, since the days 
of the K-5 sensor performance has been to the point that in anything but the 
most ludicrous lighting, the difference in performance will be much more of a 
bragging point than any visible or practical difference for the vast majority 
of photos.
The current K-1 will still have an edge on some ultra wide and fast lenses, 
being able to use more of their angle of view. It will also have an edge in 
using some film era lenses that just seem to subjectively work better at their 
designed angle of view.
There are certain features that the K-3 iii is missing, that I expect will be 
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K-3iii, since there is a very small percentage of crazies that actually push 
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I am very interested in seeing what the placement of the 101 focusing points 
is.  I frequently find myself wanting to focus on something that is outside the 
area covered by focusing points.  My expectation is that there will be a 
tremendous improvement in both focusing speed and accuracy, but I can guarantee 
you that there will be a lot of people for whom this is not sufficient, and it 
wouldn’t be good enough even if it psychicly knew what to focus on and did so 
perfectly even before you knew what you wanted it to focus on.

There will be as many people complaining that it isn’t mirrorless as there are 
who appreciate the new pentaprism, and will use this as evidence of the 
imminent demise of Ricoh/Pentax.  Lather, rinse repeat for every new feature.

I suspect that at least part of the high ISO performance will be post 
processing rather than raw hardware performance, and this will be an issue for 
at least a significant percentage of photographers.  It will be interesting to 
see how configurable that will be. 

I predict that a lot of the reviews of the K-3 iii will comment on it’s stellar 
performance, and what a joy it is to use, and these glowing reviews will have 
little effect on the final sales numbers.
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Re: PESO Hi-way cafe

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> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> gave you guys a heads up in my reply to Stan's post on the Backroad Buildings
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A

Very cool.  I did note that it said Valentine Tx on old Route 66.  Having taken 
66 (get all sporty on interstate forty) at least as far as Amarillo on my way 
to my sister’s place in North TX, I looked up Valentine TX and it seems to be 
on hwy 90, which is at the far South West end of TX a bit south of I-10.


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Re: PESO Hi-way cafe

[ann sanfedele]

LArry Thanks for that... I had thought we were on the side road off of 
I-40 when I took that.. which was 66.. but we did take I-10 and the 
southern route at one point.. .  I know Valentine was right though 
because I had it in my notes that I wrote at the time... unless your 
source was mistaken or 90 used to be 66.

This is one thing I want to be correct about!

going to look right now

ann

On 3/31/2021 5:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

gave you guys a heads up in my reply to Stan's post on the Backroad Buildings

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A

Very cool.  I did note that it said Valentine Tx on old Route 66.  Having taken 
66 (get all sporty on interstate forty) at least as far as Amarillo on my way 
to my sister’s place in North TX, I looked up Valentine TX and it seems to be 
on hwy 90, which is at the far South West end of TX a bit south of I-10.



ann

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I'll be closing submissions on Saturday evening 3 April (Sydney time).

Theme: Still Life

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Re: OT some of you already know..

[Rick Womer]

Second jab is rough. The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your
still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good!

I had the same symptoms without the fever after jab 2. They’re very common,
particularly in younger folks than you.

Rick


On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 17:34 ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day
> misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and
> chills overnight wasn't much fun and
> the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not
> quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.
>
> anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide -
> certainly got a lot on FB
>
> It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up
> without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance
>
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Re: PESO Hi-way cafe

[Paul Stenquist]

Love this. It tells a story.

Paul

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Off-the-Beaten-Path-in-20th-Century-North-America/i-pCS2NRq/A
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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[P. J. Alling]

Actually I think the article said the opposite, no direct usb charging, 
but it does include an external battery charger.


On 3/31/2021 3:43 AM, Toine wrote:

2000 That hurts!
The most amazing part: a battery charger is not included. Charging
from USB C only.
Not to mention the fixed LCD screen.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 09:33, Henk Terhell  wrote:

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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Re: DP initial review of K-3 III

[P. J. Alling]

It seems to address every criticism of the K3II except for a lack of a 
tilt screen, so of course everyone is going to dump on it.


As I'm not currently the target market, more or less perfectly happy 
with my current kit, all I see is a much improved APS-c, DSLR, and as I 
like DSLRs more than mirrorless cameras, I'm glad they made it.  I hope 
they sell a ton of them.


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https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-initial-review
Recommended price is $ 2000.

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Re: OT some of you already know..

[ann sanfedele]

I knew to expect a fever.. didn't think the arm soreness was related to 
the immune system getting going.. glad it is good!


feel so much better tiday

On 3/31/2021 9:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Second jab is rough. The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your
still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good!

I had the same symptoms without the fever after jab 2. They’re very common,
particularly in younger folks than you.

Rick


On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 17:34 ann sanfedele  wrote:


I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day
misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and
chills overnight wasn't much fun and
the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not
quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.

anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide -
certainly got a lot on FB

It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up
without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance

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Re: OT some of you already know..

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Good to hear you've gotten through it! 

I've had both shots (Moderna) and got lucky, I guess ... No reactions at all, 
other than the usual 'sore shoulder' I always get with any injection. The 
second shot with either Pfizer or Moderna has show a huge number of different 
levels of reactions, it seems. Happily, few that seem terribly bad. The risk 
from the vaccination is far lower than the risks of the virus, no matter what. 

I stay careful, but feel secure that I can continue my usual regimen and be a 
little less concerned about the possibilities. 

Onwards! 
G

> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:34 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day misery..  
> didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and chills overnight 
> wasn't much fun and
> the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not quite 
> as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.
> 
> anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide - certainly got 
> a lot on FB
> 
> It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up without 
> much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance
> 
> ann
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Looks like there are going to be some changes post covid.

The Nature Photography Weekend & the Camera Clinic are going to be combined into 
The Grandfather Mountain Photography Weekend. August 14 & 15


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Re: OT some of you already know..

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Rick said it all:
> The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your
>still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good!

Happy to hear that you are better now.

And, it is even more Spring! (Sorry, March).
Another good thing : ))

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ann sanfedele , 1 Nis 2021 Per, 05:13 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
> I knew to expect a fever.. didn't think the arm soreness was related to
> the immune system getting going.. glad it is good!
>
> feel so much better tiday
>
> On 3/31/2021 9:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> > Second jab is rough. The soreness is not from arm tension, it’s from your
> > still-energetic immune system mobilizing. That’s good!
> >
> > I had the same symptoms without the fever after jab 2. They’re very common,
> > particularly in younger folks than you.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 17:34 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> >> I got second Pfizer jab on Monday... Just coming out of the 2 day
> >> misery..  didn't mind sleeping more hours than not but the fever and
> >> chills overnight wasn't much fun and
> >> the arm soreness was much worse than first one -- maybe my arm was not
> >> quite as limp as it should have been.. but all fine now.
> >>
> >> anticipate some more reports coming in here from far and wide -
> >> certainly got a lot on FB
> >>
> >> It is a great relief.. so in two weeks I can get my regular check-up
> >> without much worry travelling farther afield than walking distance
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
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