PESO: Melted Chocolate
I don't know what it says about me that out in the middle of the Nevada desert, about 40 minutes south from Las Vegas, I looked at the hills and saw... chocolate. Yum, yum. Heh. Pretty nothing much at all going on in this photo, but I sort of like it. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/chocolate.html Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) I have a few others too, so not positive this is the best one. But, hey, it's chocolate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another London shot: The Coach and Horses
Agreed (for my eyes). Plus the overlaps don't match up exactly, which makes for sort of an edge with layers (right and left sides of photo). I would have to grow accustomed to that to like that effect. Marnie aka Doe :-) I feel myself turning into an old fuddy duddy as I write. In a message dated 1/24/2014 8:45:07 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: The HDR-ness of it is a bit much for these old eyes but its certainly well done. Beautifully composed, I'd like to see it in a more traditional rendering. And vegetarian! And a pub! How cool is that? Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Dear Aussies . . .
Ahhh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/23/2014 1:53:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: We have one of your shepherds: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/12108419024/#large His name is Bear and he's the newest canine addition to the Gilbert household. You may have him back for the princely sum of one plug nickel. Yours truly, -- Walt (on behalf of the USA) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is a Photograph?
Interesting. Never heard of that, at all. Marnie Still amused by exploding heads, subject photographs of said event, and/or selfies of said event, which will be an actual objective event. Or something like that. :-) In a message dated 1/26/2014 3:18:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes: I think that putting leaves or other items on a sensitized material and exposing to light, used to be called something like photogram. There was a scientific play kit that came with plastic negatives a frame to hold the paper and of course a light sensitive paper that turned sort of purple when exposed to the sun. I don't remember if there was some way to fix the image as I got the kit when I was approximately 10 years old. On 1/26/2014 4:34 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Yes I found that part intriguing. Hadn't thought about it, now I might try it. (i.e. scanner image/collage). Marnie aka Doe :-) It was an interesting article, Paul. In a message dated 1/26/2014 1:27:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: And according to some of the art museum curators interviewed for the Times article, it doesn't necessarily involve a camera or lens. An example would be a photographic image made by arranging objects on a scanner, then printing the resulting digital file. But no one is really trying to provide a firm answer, just raising the question. Paul -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Unsolicited Advice
Taken with the Pentax X-5 on the Circus Circus Midway in Las Vegas. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/advice.html Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling
It used to be that saving for web did not use as good a compression algorithm as just saving as a jpg. I guess that's changed, not sure. But you are remembering correctly, because a while back (maybe a long while back) I heard that too. Marnie I never save for web. And I tend to save at either the max, or near the max (10-12). Saving for the web, you don't get to choose. Or didn't. (I only have LR 4). In a message dated 1/23/2014 2:20:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Well I went back and did a save for web on a file and learned that I could see the camera data.. and copyright.. Hmmm... wonder if that was so way back in elements 2.0 and I just never checked again. someonw lingering in the back of my socalled brain I read something about saving in jpg but not jpg for web was better or necessary for some things but if that meta data stuff wasn't it I'm not sure ... maybe jsut stuff related to compression. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Unsolicited Advice
Thanks, Bruce. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/25/2014 5:38:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Excellent! Did Zoltar predict a good response to this shot? He should have. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Taken with the Pentax X-5 on the Circus Circus Midway in Las Vegas. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/advice.html Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Unsolicited Advice
LOL. I thought it looked familiar. (re favorite movie, me too.) Thanks, frank. Marnie :-) In a message dated 1/25/2014 8:13:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: BIG! A favourite movie. Cool shot! Cheers, frank eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Taken with the Pentax X-5 on the Circus Circus Midway in Las Vegas. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/advice.html Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Only In Vegas
Heh. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 1/14/2014 12:14:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Those bright lights should serve as a warning. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:43 AM Subject: PESO - Only In Vegas Wish I had had time to do a whole series of Only In Vegas shots, while there, but didn't. Slot machines in 7-11's, etc. For those of you not in the US, Denny's is a very prosaic restaurant chain, sort of middle of the road dinning. Not the cheapest there is (those are fast-food drive thrus), but definitely not at the upper end either. So seeing a Denny's like this amused me. Taken from my car, not very well, with the X-5. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/onlyvegas.html A just for fun shot. Comments welcome, but I don't think it merits any real critiquing. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Only In Vegas
Oh, didn't realize they had them like that anywhere else. No matter, got another one, different. Marnie ;-) But I will probably show some good photos before that one. In a message dated 1/14/2014 12:46:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Certainly not only in Vegas though - looks exactly like ones in the east to me , unless you are saying there are slots in the restaurant - which I can't see in the photo. Anywhere in Nevada that's possible, btw. Denny's is a place one should not patronize on ethical grounds. ann On 1/14/2014 15:14, Jack Davis wrote: Those bright lights should serve as a warning. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 11:43 AM Subject: PESO - Only In Vegas Wish I had had time to do a whole series of Only In Vegas shots, while there, but didn't. Slot machines in 7-11's, etc. For those of you not in the US, Denny's is a very prosaic restaurant chain, sort of middle of the road dinning. Not the cheapest there is (those are fast-food drive thrus), but definitely not at the upper end either. So seeing a Denny's like this amused me. Taken from my car, not very well, with the X-5. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/onlyvegas.html A just for fun shot. Comments welcome, but I don't think it merits any real critiquing. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
I never wore a mini-skirt, per-se. But I had blue wool or knit dress, that was essentially mini-skirt length, with covered arms and with a high neck, but a large, prominent zipper down the middle. Guys seemed to notice that zipper a lot, as I recall. Still have it around somewhere. Would have been the early 70's. Fashions are totally silly sometimes. They were then, they are now. Jeans are so comfortable. Wearing short, short skirts was definitely not comfortable (it was a strain to sit and keep the knees together). Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/14/2014 6:53:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Late 60's early 70's .. For some reason I can vividly remember an outfit I had - the top had shoulder pads and the shorts had cuffs... If it had been a dress, it would have been something from the 40's But yes, 1970 exactly was when I had the outfit.. The shorts were safer than the mini skirts. ann On 1/13/2014 15:38, John wrote: On 1/13/2014 2:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: JOhn - In the sixties I wore platform heels and hot pants to work in an office at General Electric whilst going to night school.. It was the decade fo the sexual revolution.. But in Bruces world I'm guessing scantily clad is pasties and a thong :-) ann I thought platform shoes hot pants were more of a 70s thing. Maybe Paul can find a definitive example of scantily clad from the car show? On 1/13/2014 12:24, John wrote: It's a Mary Quant style mini-dress with a skirt only slightly shorter than the ones girls wore when I was in high-school. You'd think some of you skipped the whole decade of the 60s never heard of Carnaby St. On 1/13/2014 10:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Only In Vegas
Wish I had had time to do a whole series of Only In Vegas shots, while there, but didn't. Slot machines in 7-11's, etc. For those of you not in the US, Denny's is a very prosaic restaurant chain, sort of middle of the road dinning. Not the cheapest there is (those are fast-food drive thrus), but definitely not at the upper end either. So seeing a Denny's like this amused me. Taken from my car, not very well, with the X-5. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/onlyvegas.html A just for fun shot. Comments welcome, but I don't think it merits any real critiquing. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
Agreed date/time stamp. I was semi-joking re scantily clad. Her legs were quite bare, more than it looks. But none of the females were actually scantily clad this year. I gather they have been covering them up more and more because of female attendees. Evidentially, there were more just last year. I need to get the viewfinder to be less bright, as well. And figure out how to set a manual setting and then use it re the green button. The green button does less than it does on the higher end cameras, but it will do something (something which I haven't figured out yet). Marnie In a message dated 1/13/2014 5:43:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the booth report, Marnie. I have to wonder about your definition of scantily clad though. Aside from bare legs, the only way that girl in your shot could be more covered would be with a burka. The very next thing you need to learn to do on your X-5 is disable the date/time stamp. :-) On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:59 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I barely had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I either shot manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I haven't edited them. http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the market share for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is out there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said that USA Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- but only when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and he was simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this will be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are heavily invested and very much behind the brand name. The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the scantily clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were scantily clad girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were more girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women attendees to the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was there, to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my trip. I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a ghost town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the casinos (I don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you would ask and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was also not solely interested in photographic equipment. I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going to put in large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger, lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some camera. Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was mainly on their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small walk-thru photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking shots of the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and went up and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones that did that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table. The two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with their products inside, much bigger than it looks in my picture. The camera I was, personally, most impressed with and taken by was the Fujifilm (yes, moving on) X-M2. Which
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
It seemed a total waste of the 3-D printing process, agreed. (IE Smurfs, or essentially smurfs.) But that is what they were peddling to consumers. I just didn't take a pic of the more serious one that is being used to prototype things for computers, etc. (He said some companies were using the 3-D printers to design silicon chip holders. If it's off a fraction, they can correct and rerun the printer.) Their objects were very small and in a glass case. I got some literature from them, but haven't read it to see what all the uses were that it was being put to. They were not marketing to consumers. Another one had a chocolate 3-D printer. Except they had no printer and I saw no literature. It seemed to be all online. I couldn't figure out if it was a gag or if someone was actually doing it. I certainly can see a use for that. Heh. Marnie In a message dated 1/13/2014 6:53:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: I'm officially an old fogey - I loathe the glitz, the cutsie pie stuff they made with the 3-d printers and am horrified at all drones. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
My reaction exactly. Which is why I mentioned the girl. I mean, come on, who are you really marketing to? They didn't think that one through. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:25:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ch...@inielsen.net writes: Interesting report, Marnie, thanks. We all know they are trying to sell those colorful cameras to women, so... why no beefcake in the booth to accompany them??? :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
You nailed it. Thanks, ann. Heh. In a message dated 1/13/2014 7:36:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: How about provocatively clad, Bruce? Bare legs, high heels, skin tight top is definitely in the spirit of scantily clad They are still pushing the camera with a hot model instead of someone neatly dressed in office attire.. Its annoying ann On 1/13/2014 08:43, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks for the booth report, Marnie. I have to wonder about your definition of scantily clad though. Aside from bare legs, the only way that girl in your shot could be more covered would be with a burka. The very next thing you need to learn to do on your X-5 is disable the date/time stamp. :-) On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:59 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I barely had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I either shot manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I haven't edited them. http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the market share for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is out there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said that USA Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- but only when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and he was simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this will be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are heavily invested and very much behind the brand name. The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the scantily clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were scantily clad girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were more girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women attendees to the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was there, to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my trip. I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a ghost town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the casinos (I don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you would ask and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was also not solely interested in photographic equipment. I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going to put in large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger, lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some camera. Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was mainly on their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small walk-thru photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking shots of the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and went up and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones that did that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table. The two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with their products inside, much bigger than it looks in my picture. The camera I was, personally, most impressed with and taken by was the Fujifilm (yes, moving on) X-M2. Which the rep told me had just started being shipped in November. She only had one, it was so new, although she had several X-M1s. CES: The show/convention/conference overall, was overwhelming. It is HUGE. Most people were there to do business and
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
No one's interested that Pentax reps consistently said no FF? Oh, well, guess you guys knew that already. Heh. Later, Marnie It's always the editorializing that gets one in trouble. ;-) In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:24:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, johnsess...@yahoo.com writes: It's a Mary Quant style mini-dress with a skirt only slightly shorter than the ones girls wore when I was in high-school. You'd think some of you skipped the whole decade of the 60s never heard of Carnaby St. On 1/13/2014 10:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: How about provocatively clad, Bruce? Bare legs, high heels, skin tight top is definitely in the spirit of scantily clad They are still pushing the camera with a hot model instead of someone neatly dressed in office attire.. Its annoying ann On 1/13/2014 08:43, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks for the booth report, Marnie. I have to wonder about your definition of scantily clad though. Aside from bare legs, the only way that girl in your shot could be more covered would be with a burka. The very next thing you need to learn to do on your X-5 is disable the date/time stamp. :-) On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:59 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I barely had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I either shot manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I haven't edited them. http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the market share for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is out there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said that USA Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- but only when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and he was simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this will be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are heavily invested and very much behind the brand name. The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the scantily clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were scantily clad girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were more girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women attendees to the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was there, to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my trip. I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a ghost town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the casinos (I don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you would ask and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was also not solely interested in photographic equipment. I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going to put in large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger, lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some camera. Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was mainly on their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small walk-thru photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking shots of the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and went up and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones that did that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table. The two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
Looks like some company was handing them out. Since it is a dealer show there is a lot of literature about products to collect, and serious people end up with some bag or other to cart it all around. The Nikon bags, plastic and yellow, seemed to be the most popular. I took that because I was eating on the stairs, the food court was way too full to find a place. Heh. Marnie :-) In a message dated 1/13/2014 10:52:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, attila.p...@gmail.com writes: Not bad either. And what's with this guy? http://mapphotography.com/CES/content/IMGP0056_large.html A man, wearing a bright orange tote, backpack style? Fashion faux pas award of the month g -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
LOL. Thanks, Ken. I will take donations. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/13/2014 2:02:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kwal...@peoplepc.com writes: Thanks for the report Marnie - you should have gotten paid for this. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
LOL. (re 3-D printing) M ;-) A tall hat for a teller of tall tales. In a message dated 1/13/2014 4:27:40 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: First production run will be coming off the 3-D printers any time now. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I barely had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I either shot manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I haven't edited them. http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the market share for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is out there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said that USA Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- but only when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and he was simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this will be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are heavily invested and very much behind the brand name. The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the scantily clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were scantily clad girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were more girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women attendees to the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was there, to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my trip. I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a ghost town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the casinos (I don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you would ask and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was also not solely interested in photographic equipment. I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going to put in large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger, lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some camera. Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was mainly on their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small walk-thru photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking shots of the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and went up and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones that did that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table. The two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with their products inside, much bigger than it looks in my picture. The camera I was, personally, most impressed with and taken by was the Fujifilm (yes, moving on) X-M2. Which the rep told me had just started being shipped in November. She only had one, it was so new, although she had several X-M1s. CES: The show/convention/conference overall, was overwhelming. It is HUGE. Most people were there to do business and see specific items. If you didn't have a focus it was pretty confusing. Lots and lots of booths, but the most overwhelming part was simply the massive number of people walking around. Almost worse than Disneyland during summer. About 150,000 attend, so it was busy, busy all the time. Most were wearing black. The racial/ethnic mix was mainly White and Asian. At least the shuttle buses between venues were good (there is a three-hall convention center, two stories, and things spilled over into three other hotels). I had very interesting discussions with a cable company owner and a representative of GSM (Global Standards for Mobile) on the shuttle, one on the way, and one on the way back. PMA: PMA was also there. Unfortunately it was in the last stop, all travel between buildings was by foot, and after a very long walk down looping a corridor, back and forth, linking
Re: GESO - CES and Paul's Pic
Oh, forgot. The rep that said they are the last to know, also pointed out they would have to bring out a whole new set of lenses (ignoring legacy lenses), that all the new lenses now are designed for the APS-C sensor. In a message dated 1/12/2014 10:00:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, eactiv...@aol.com writes: I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with the X-5 (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I barely had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I either shot manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I haven't edited them. http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the market share for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is out there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said that USA Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- but only when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and he was simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this will be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are heavily invested and very much behind the brand name. The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the scantily clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were scantily clad girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were more girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women attendees to the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was there, to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my trip. I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a ghost town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the casinos (I don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you would ask and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was also not solely interested in photographic equipment. I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going to put in large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger, lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some camera. Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was mainly on their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small walk-thru photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking shots of the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and went up and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones that did that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table. The two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with their products inside, much bigger than it looks in my picture. The camera I was, personally, most impressed with and taken by was the Fujifilm (yes, moving on) X-M2. Which the rep told me had just started being shipped in November. She only had one, it was so new, although she had several X-M1s. CES: The show/convention/conference overall, was overwhelming. It is HUGE. Most people were there to do business and see specific items. If you didn't have a focus it was pretty confusing. Lots and lots of booths, but the most overwhelming part was simply the massive number of people walking around. Almost worse than Disneyland during summer. About 150,000 attend, so it was busy, busy all the time. Most were wearing black. The racial/ethnic mix was mainly White and Asian. At least the shuttle buses between venues were good (there is a three-hall convention center, two stories, and things spilled
Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submission form is live now
Heh. M aka D In a message dated 1/2/2014 12:04:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, johnsess...@yahoo.com writes: On 1/2/2014 1:31 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 2/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Gotta use a Pentax camera body or lens. Dare I attach the venerable A*85/1.4 to the Fuji X-E1 (gasp!!!) and let loose the bokeh?? Better that than releasing the Druids These are not the Druids you seek. Move along. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Seasons Greetings
Ditto. Nice shot. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/24/2013 11:55:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kwal...@peoplepc.com writes: Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year to all that celebrate the season! http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17634393 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Pacific Sunset
I am sort of getting caught up in my looking, sort of, very randomly. Nice. Nice warm colors. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/1/2014 9:37:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Enjoy a warm sunset with me here in San Diego... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17642007size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submission form is live now
So this year you are going to allow former Pentaxians, who once had a Pentax camera (two or three), but who no longer do, submit. Right? Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 1/1/2014 5:02:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 submission form is live now
I know, I know. I figured pushing it was worth one shot. ;-) I was debating whether buying the X-5 was also worth it just for the annual. I have sort of concluded, it isn't. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/2/2014 10:12:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: eactiv...@aol.com wrote: So this year you are going to allow former Pentaxians, who once had a Pentax camera (two or three), but who no longer do, submit. Right? Gotta use a Pentax camera body or lens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Pentax CES Display...
As Paul found out, by an odd coincidence I am going, and will try to get a shot. It is a great photo. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/2/2014 12:36:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: ...will include one of my photos—“Birmingham Gentleman.” The Ricoh marketing people chose it after perusing the Pentax Gallery, and I provided a 50 meg. tiff file. I believe they made a rather large print of it. Most of you probably recall the pic. It was on the landing page of the Pentax Gallery for quite a few years, and it’s been seen here before. It’s on photo.net as well: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3451662size=lg If anyone plans on attending the CES, I’d love to see a photo of the booth. Best, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Yes. Marnie aka Doe :-) Be nice to see you again. In a message dated 12/28/2013 2:35:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: Definitely! I went to several of the PDML meetups, up until 2007 or so. And I've lived in the Bay Area for 18 years! We are going back after this trip, San Francisco is home after all. Are you guys still meeting from time to time? j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: more stars!
Not as WOW as the first you posted, but still effective. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 1/1/2014 8:57:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: My previous PESO went so well that I figured I'd post this. It's from early in our trip, September 2012, on the beach in Baja. http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2110817.gif K5, 12-24/4 (I believe). j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2 pic Geso - that Bob W referred to in previous post on Versailles
Interesting. Second one made me laugh, good juxtaposition. Marnie Heh. In a message dated 12/29/2013 10:05:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/4796533_2JPwq h ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
Nice quote list. With the exception that I am not on it. I guess I have to hang around more to be quoted . WTG, Ann, some good ones. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 12/25/2013 8:08:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: http://www.robertstech.com/quote.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Salubrious Solstice!
Very nice, like it. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/23/2013 7:45:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17629071 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17629071-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
The Canon 24/105 is a great lens. Just saying... Marnie aka Doe :-) Actually so is the 17-40, I believe. In a message dated 12/28/2013 8:48:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Las Vegas Photo Spots?
Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old Lace
Very nice. The remaining lace in the window lifts it above the ordinary. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/26/2013 12:21:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: From Nevada City, Montana. http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3711-K5-1peso.htm l http://tinyurl.com/lyjqz5q -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Christmas Wonder
Very good portrait, like the softness, but not too soft. Except it looks like his nose is running, poor guy. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/25/2013 4:50:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: Hi all! First of all, I hope everyone is having a great Christmas Day along with any other holiday you may be observing. Next, I wanted to share this photo of my great-nephew I took earlier today. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11556218463/ K-5, F 50/1.7, f/2.8, ISO 100, 1/180, shoe-mounted flash Comments are, as always, welcome. Happy holidays! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
I thought I'd do one night of night photography, try it out. I still haven't done that much, and there will be PLENTY of lit signs to play with. Heh. Marnie In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:14:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Have noticed a few photogs, over the years, doing street/marquee shooting. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Las Vegas Photo Spots? Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 1st composite
My reaction is... it's not entirely successful. Left side is too large in proportion to the right. A mix of even more photos might be better. But that is MY reaction. I used to do a lot of collages back when too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/27/2013 10:09:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: http://www.caguila.com/1stcomp/content/first_composit_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
I always love your galleries, Bob, and this is no exception. Lovely. Liked too many to pick some out, but did notice especially the BW of the various levels of buildings, the statue head (male), the reflecting ponds (two), and the draped statues. But also some good long distant shots of the area exterior and interior. The covered statues are very surreal and sort of spooky. Took me a moment, on the first one, to figure out what the heck they were. Heh. Envious (re trip). Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:06:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 200 - GDG
Nice. Like the light. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/11/2013 7:17:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, godfreydigio...@me.com writes: By the latter part of Saturday's walk, the threat of rain had disappeared, clouds blown to the east and north, and the sun came out. The chill remained, however, and the light had that glinty, harsh severity of winter in it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290838255/ Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting to Mush
Nice one! Attractive dog. Okay, reading this thread, because can't believe one dog can pull you. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/21/2013 5:15:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, danmaty...@gmail.com writes: My dog and his sled: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17632497size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
GREAT! Thanks, Ann. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:49:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Drive west on Charleston (route 159) to Red Rock Canyon early in the morning... It's about a 20 minute drive as I remember and there is a loop road with foot trails going off it and a vistors center with more info. It was my get away place when I was caring for Richard because I couldn't be gone long... then go back to town by continuing on 159 and possibly stop at Spring Valley ranch - 159 will bring you back to LV from the south. I haven't been there since 1993 -- but spent a lot of time there- long story why Downtown used to be funky and fun for shooting... not sure what the story is these days. really good, cheap mexican food here El Sombrero - my fave and apparently still in favor with locals - I miss it. http://www.timeout.com/las-vegas/restaurants/venue/1%3A11715/el-sombrero here is an old shot of mine from red rock http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/48-states-project/25651290_ 9Dw44L#!i=2133090605k=zwXG8g9lb=1s=A Have fun! ann On 12/28/2013 13:09, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: stars
Cool shot. Really like it. Also, to let you know, I've been enjoying vanenvan.com quite a bit. Especially Steph's articles. Well, uh, the photography is good too, of course. Heh. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 1:05:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Yup, that's pretty grungy alright. Nice shot. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:19:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Happy Holidays PDML!
Not a great shot, but it went out on my Xmas card. When I took it it was too darn cold to stand out in the street with a tripod and try to get a really good shot. Happy Holidays, PDML! Although I haven't been here that much in the last two years, I really value this place: the photo/LR expertise; the helpful feedback; the camaraderie; the jokes; the lovely pictures; even the not-so-lovely pictures; the rumors and wild speculation; the off-topic discussions; and the... Nope, SORRY, I can still live without the puns. ;-) http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/holidays.html And a Happy New Year! Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 4 for one photo calendar?
THANKS! Marnie In a message dated 12/11/2013 7:39:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, johnsess...@yahoo.com writes: On 12/10/2013 12:31 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, back again for a while. Because I finally have more photos to show. :-) But this is the time of year I do ONE calendar for ONE friend. Before I've done it in Word, which, frankly, is a bit of a pain. I recently upgraded to LR 4 (pre-cloud, while I could still find it), and I was wondering if there was some way to use LR 4 to make a calendar. If not, is there something else around? I don't need to self publish, since there is only ONE calendar. Unless you can something like blurb for one layout, without publishing. THANKS! Marnie aka Doe I'm not a Lightroom user, but I found this. Lightroom Killer Tips: Creating Calendars in the Print Module https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3eaG2UD7cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
LR 4 for one photo calendar?
Okay, back again for a while. Because I finally have more photos to show. :-) But this is the time of year I do ONE calendar for ONE friend. Before I've done it in Word, which, frankly, is a bit of a pain. I recently upgraded to LR 4 (pre-cloud, while I could still find it), and I was wondering if there was some way to use LR 4 to make a calendar. If not, is there something else around? I don't need to self publish, since there is only ONE calendar. Unless you can something like blurb for one layout, without publishing. THANKS! Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 4 for one photo calendar?
Okay, not quite what I meant. I have a good photo printer, but laying out a calendar in Word is a bit of work. Thanks, Marnie In a message dated 12/10/2013 2:28:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentax1...@gmail.com writes: Do your PP in LR, then export them as 8x10 JPGs; take them to OfficeMax on a flash drive and have them print your calendar. They may even be having a Christmas sale. They do a pretty good job printing. I just had them make a 20x30 for me that turned out very well. -p On 12/10/2013 11:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, back again for a while. Because I finally have more photos to show. :-) But this is the time of year I do ONE calendar for ONE friend. Before I've done it in Word, which, frankly, is a bit of a pain. I recently upgraded to LR 4 (pre-cloud, while I could still find it), and I was wondering if there was some way to use LR 4 to make a calendar. If not, is there something else around? I don't need to self publish, since there is only ONE calendar. Unless you can something like blurb for one layout, without publishing. THANKS! Marnie aka Doe -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 4 for one photo calendar?
Thanks. Marnie In a message dated 12/10/2013 3:07:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentko...@gmail.com writes: I just send the sized and corrected jpegs to Staples or Walmart, ( 5 business days or its free, in Canada anyway)both do a decent job. A friend uses Vistaprint says they are good but have not seen one yet. Dave On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, back again for a while. Because I finally have more photos to show. :-) But this is the time of year I do ONE calendar for ONE friend. Before I've done it in Word, which, frankly, is a bit of a pain. I recently upgraded to LR 4 (pre-cloud, while I could still find it), and I was wondering if there was some way to use LR 4 to make a calendar. If not, is there something else around? I don't need to self publish, since there is only ONE calendar. Unless you can something like blurb for one layout, without publishing. THANKS! Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 4 for one photo calendar?
Cool, thanks. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/10/2013 6:54:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, parsons.da...@gmail.com writes: Try this: http://lightroomkillertips.com/?p=5284 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR 4 for one photo calendar?
Interesting idea, Godfrey. Yeah, it's the numbering that is the major pain. Thanks. Marnie In a message dated 12/10/2013 7:50:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, godfreydigio...@me.com writes: That looks neat, David! Thanks for posting it. Marnie, I've created calendars very quickly using the Apple Numbers spreadsheet application. In Numbers, you just open a template for a calendar, shuffle the bits around on a page to look the way you want them to, add a photo or any other graphics as desired, and export to a PDF file month by month. You can vary the photos month by month too. I'm sure other spreadsheets can do something similar in a much more automated way than Word. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Like the second photograph, effectively done against dark tree. Glad the story eventually had a happy ending. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/10/2013 11:08:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OM-D E-M5 (was Aliasing question)
Good point. No, I mean like wait a year (or eight months or so) for a real drop and more used cameras on the market. Buy some used Canon gear until then. When it comes to cameras, I've learned to be patient. Marnie aka Doe -- The Former Pentaxian ;-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 10:37:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, a...@pobox.com writes: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Pssst. I am still seriously interested in the Olympus EM-5. BUT... going to wait until I can get it used. keh.com currently has them for $695/LN- or $665/EX+ (I'd probably go ahead and spend the extra $30 for LN- but it really doesn't matter AFAICT). They probably will drop a bit more once the E-M1 (note the correct hyphen placement) ships, but I bet much of the drop has already occurred (new is currently $950 at bhphoto). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Nice one, frank. Like the guy to the side, he looks ticked off that the other is doing so well. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 8:31:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: NASA Humanity Portrait
Every now and then AOL still coughs up an interesting article. This Single Portrait Would Explain Humanity to Aliens -- a project by NASA. http://www.tested.com/science/space/458434-portrait-humanity-was-nearly-sent -titan/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl10%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D389263 http://tinyurl.com/mu2o27y Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Oh? Are we hearing a tid bit from your past? V-e-r-y interesting. ;-) Actually, some of the photos don't look too bad to me. But others look awful, with ghosting around the edges of things. I also think HDR could easily be called a genre, regardless of subject matter. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/10/2013 3:12:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
Bye, Walt. Good luck. Marnie aka Doe :-) My only excuse for still being on list is I have a Pentax Optio A40. Heh. In a message dated 10/9/2013 6:06:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass, does it matter? Marnie aka Doe :-) Truly curious. In a message dated 10/8/2013 10:27:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: Haven't you people been paying attention. Pentax is doomed. I'm willing to bet that by this time next year, Pentax will no longer exist as a company. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon
I love hot dogs too, fat and all. If I had to choose better one and a hamburger, the dog would win every time. I like just mustard, lots of it, and pickle relish. Onion is okay too. I have done an informal hot dog survey of the county I live in (well, not totally completed yet in outlaying areas -- so I still have more to look forward to). Oddly enough, the best hot dog I have found is in a hot dog stand outside of the local Home Depot. (Better frank meat to begin with). OTOH, that is probably the reason it has been in the same spot, doing a brisk business, for over ten years. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 5:41:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: You guys haven't had a good hot dog. They vary widely. But there is certainly nothing worse than a faux hot dog. It's a basically unhealthy treat, but there is nothing that tastes better to me in the category of meat on bread than a good frankfurter. I prefer them with just a bit of mustard and some ketchup, or some steamed onions. The problem is most of the time the hot dog buns are terrible. Now I'm hungry - fortunately, I still haven't had breakfast ann On 10/8/2013 21:39, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: knarf wrote: And yes, for all you vegans, they all have veggie dogs. Veggie dogs taste pretty bad but there are lots of toppings to kill the taste. I never liked hot dogs much. When I first became vegetarian, many years ago, I thought to myself one day I'll try these veggie hot dogs - they can't be any worse than real hot dogs. They were. When I was in the USA I decided that I had to try a genuine American hot dog. Unfortunately I came to that decision on the Amtrak service between Seattle and Portland. For all I know it may have been a Veggie hot dog - there was little to identify it one way or the other. Certainly taste didn't help... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
So obviously it doesn't matter -- that it is just a brand. Marnie aka Doe :-) I am glad that Pentax finally found a home that appreciates it. It seemed to, for years, to be drifting from one home to another. In a message dated 10/9/2013 11:49:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:44:08PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: As long as the camera still takes Pentax glass, does it matter? Marnie aka Doe :-) Truly curious. I was making a joke. Pentax no longer exists as a company now. It is merely a brand of Ricoh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Patterns
Okay, I am still waiting... Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 6:25:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: Tomorrow, I may reveal all. Thanks for the compliments! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Patterns Can't figure out what it is. Very intriguing. Wonderful photo! Cheers, frank Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another taken on my way home from work: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17545064size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17545064-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) It's a bit strange, so this may be just the place to show it. Comments? Rick “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Where the Rubber Meets the Rail
I figure it I liked something on FB don't have to comment here. But not sure of the etiquette on that. Correct me if I am wrong. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 6:16:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/where-rubber-meets-rail.html?m=1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Aliasing question
You know, someone asked me the other day because I have been a computer programmer, if I had ever been a geek. I said no, not really. I think that is confirmed now. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 5:17:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: To show the effects of pixel fill factor on aliasing, I coded up a small simulation. This 1000x1000 starting image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/micro-auto-focus-test- 2.png (from http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/auto-focus-test/ ) represents the image falling onto a 111x111 monochromatic pixel sensor. Since each sensor pixel sees 9x9 pixels of the original image, we can create 9x9 downsampling kernels to simulate various sensor pixel fill factors. Here is the resulting image from a kernel using only a 1x1 portion of the 9x9 kernel (1% fill factor, approximating instantaneous or infinitesimal point sampling): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/kernel_1.png A 3x3 kernel (11% fill factor): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/kernel_3.png A 5x5 kernel (31% fill factor): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/kernel_5.png A 7x7 kernel (61% fill factor): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/kernel_7.png A 9x9 kernel (100% fill factor--no insensitive gap between pixels): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/kernel_9.png And finally the code: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20239870/Aliasing/FillFactor.py You can see that the sensor pixel fill factor has a considerable effect on the amount of aliasing in the output image. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample. It's the discontinuous aspect of what is effectively three overlayed photos that is causing the aliasing. Is this correct? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Rocket
Nice trolley. Would like it more with people. :-) Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/9/2013 4:04:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1 I think they can be chartered, too. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Saturday Night With Ches
Nice shot. Love the guy in the back. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 5:46:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Another Saturday night at the local coffee joint: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/10/saturday-night-with-ches.html?m=1 Everybody know him. Just walks in with his guitar and starts playing country standards. Good clean fun! Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bromo Seltzer
Good one. I keep feeling the tallest bottle should have a little more head room, but that is a quibble. Very nice --- like the composition. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 6:04:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17551948size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17551948-lg.jpg (K-5, FA24-90) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso The Game
Interesting. Especially contrast between center character and the others. I like it. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 12:51:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: Here is one I've been meaning to post for a week or two. Don't ask me what camera I used. It wasn't k-3. CC etc. https://plus.google.com/100687245332697763729/posts/GKQfMf8e9s7 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10143301786/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Aliasing question
Pssst. I am still seriously interested in the Olympus EM-5. BUT... going to wait until I can get it used. Marnie aka Doe :-) I don't know, Godfrey, you seem pretty geeky to me. ;-) Re camera: cool. In a message dated 10/9/2013 6:50:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, godd...@me.com writes: Don't feel bad, Marnie. They're significantly geekier than I am, and that's saying a lot. I'd rather be geeky making photographs, however. (Psst: My new camera is on the way to me now, although I doubt anyone on the PDML is interested to know that other than a couple of friends. However, Cotty will gush over it when I carry it to the UK next year. It is sexy. ];-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Patterns
AHA! Thanks. M aka D :-) --- Well, Marnie, since you asked... There is a bridge over a busy street between two buildings at work. The glass walls of the bridge have those white dots on them to make them visible to birds. For a few months I've been intrigued by the shadows those dots cast, and a couple of weeks ago the time, angle of the sun, weather, and my having my camera with me converged. Then it was just a matter of waiting for somebody to walk along the sidewalk below. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 3:05 PM, eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Okay, I am still waiting... Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 6:25:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: Tomorrow, I may reveal all. Thanks for the compliments! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Patterns Can't figure out what it is. Very intriguing. Wonderful photo! Cheers, frank Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another taken on my way home from work: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17545064size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17545064-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) It's a bit strange, so this may be just the place to show it. Comments? Rick “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk
Yes. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 8/8/2013 11:35:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, a...@pobox.com writes: Gettin' older SUX, but it still beats the only available alternative. Mostly, but my partner's parent with Alzheimers taught me that's not always true. :-( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The kind of HDR I hate
Well, I'll be different and say I like this one better. The other looked unreal to me. BUT... I would do some recovery in the shadows. Somewhere between this one and the other one. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 1:05:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: For the curious, here's the non-HDR version of my Milan street scene (just basic Lightroom processing): http://www.robertstech.com/temp/112-7dd06804.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: facebook post about being the community photographer
A clear writer doesn't make his reader work too hard to get his/her point. Especially since not all readers have the same skill set, i.e. some read quickly/some read slowly/and everywhere in between. And good writing is clear writing. Clarity reveals ideas; too much wordiness and rambling obscures ideas. Marnie aka Doe Or so I was told once, when I rambled on and on with too many run-on sentences, usually separated by commas, spewing out idea after idea, one after another, by a very good writer. ;-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 12:22:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Is it really too much to ask to have a meaningful Subject and a statement of purpose? Something to say why I should be interested? I am willing to forgive an essay written in some haste for its wordiness and actually read the thing ... _IF_ I know what it's about. This one came across to me just like starting into the 3rd paragraph of a report on the City of Mississauga expenditures for 1st quarter 2011, or a scientific treatise on the effect of a lack of potassium on fungus gnat reasoning abilities. It required me to scan downward through a dense thicket of words to divine what the premise is. Some things aren't worth sending out into the world. Like bread dough, yucky uncooked, but well worthwhile when baked. If one doesn't yet have the time to finish something, put it away for later. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I should say that Bob does have a point and that it dovetails somewhat with your theme. Editing is a great example of the invisible effort you're talking about, and consumers don't generally give any thought to it until it doesn't happen. It's just that I happen to think people are entitled to some forbearance to that end when it comes to discussions among friends. -- Walt On 10/8/2013 1:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Actually, the whole concept of invisible effort is worth thinking about in every context, whether it's putting on Thanksgiving dinner, taking photos of the school play, running a mailing list, or editing the PDML annual. There are a lot of tasks that you just don't realize how much work is involved until you have done them yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The kind of HDR I hate
Well, since you hate it, what are we supposed to say? Huh, not my kind of thing either. Hey, look, you even have star lights! Whee! Heh. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Nice composition? Can say that. In a message dated 10/6/2013 10:26:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: ...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm Pseudo-HDR treatment (it's tone mapped from a single exposure). Lots of tweaking with masks, selective noise reduction and other tricks to make look more like an illustration than a photograph. Notes: 1/2-second exposure obtained without a tripod by bracing camera against lamp post. I love the sneakers hanging over the phone lines in the upper left-hand corner. Gelateria Yogurteria Venexia (in the center of the photo) makes the most amazing triple-chocolate gelato in Italy. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: facebook post about being the community photographer
Actually, Bob, you'd be surprised how many people on FB WILL read it. For one thing, it will be formatted, not a plain text dump as it is here. People do occasionally post longer posts on Facebook. But it is totally a if-they-are-in-the-mood thing, whether one's friends will read it or not. Read the whole thing, Larry, and I do think you are trying to communicate too many different ideas in one post. I mean, Rockwell country is already taken. ;-) But you make it sound like camera companies are out to deliberately exploit people. Or exploit them into thinking everyone can take good photos. I would disagree with that. Anyone who buys a DSLR will find out they need to know more, if they don't already know about f-stops and the like. NOW cell phone companies MAY want to imply to everyone that they can take good shots with no experience, practice, and knowledge. I don't know. One of my FB friends, non-PDML-type, has taken fantastic photos with his cell phone and is currently putting together a blurb book of them. He raised funds on Kickstarter and got a lot of donations. But I don't know his photographic background, he may have been taking photos for years. Marnie In a message dated 10/7/2013 1:06:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: Nobody's going to read that, whatever it's about. Several long blocks of text - why should anyone want to read it? Whatever it is you want to say, say it in less than 7 short sentences. B On 7 Oct 2013, at 08:56, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This is somethingt that has been brewing in my mind for a while. I didn't have time to do more than just spew it out, without editing. And it was a real challlenge trying to phrase it as there are people out there doing a lot more work than you realize, and not come across as I do all this stuff for you, what are you going to do for me?. I hope I succeeded. If you are reading this, chances are that I've taken photos of you. I have nearly 1,600 people on my friends list, and I'm pretty sure it's not because of my sparkling personality. My social awkwardness is not legendary, but it is no secret. The reason that most people connect with me on social networking sites is because I'm one of the people that gets decent photos at those events where the cell phone photos always look like crap. In just about any social group there are a few of us, generally three or four, that you see at the various events, taking photos. Something like half of the photos ever taken, have been taken in the past year or two. To a first approximation, everybody now has a camera with them all the time. You might call it a phone, but it's also a camera. Meanwhile, the performance of dedicated cameras have improved at the exponential rate that Gordon Moore noticed several decades ago. So, not only can just about anyone take a photo at any time, but there's a decent chance that photo will look OK, or at least the objects in it will probably be recognizable. But in our various social groups, there are three or four of us who fairly regularly hear someone admit that their photos don't turn out as well as ours. There's a dirty secret that the people who make cameras won't tell you. While cameras have advanced to the point that you no longer need to have a good grasp of photographic fundamentals to take a pictures that is reasonably well exposed, and even has subjects in focus, if you don't know your aperture from a hole in the ground, chances are you won't take many good photos. Sure, you'll get lucky now and then. Throw enough darts in the general direction of the dart board and a few of them will hit the bullseye, but quite frankly, most of your photos will be crap, particularly in anything but favorable light. What camera companies will tell you is that to get good photos, you need good (read expensive) cameras and lenses. This is true to a point. A good photographer can get beautiful artistic photos with just about any working camera that you put in their hands, but there are times when you simply need the right tool for the job. If you want pictures of people dancing in a room that is too dark to comfortably read in, you are going to need a pretty good camera body, a decent lens, and in addition to knowing how to use them, you're going to need a decent computer for processing those photos. You can get these things on the cheap, relatively speaking, but if you're passionate about photography chances are that you've spent well over a thousand dollars on your kit. Actually, chances are that you've spent quite a few times that on your kit, but if you're creative, you might be able to take and process good photos in challenging light for under two or three thousand dollars. So, those people getting better photos than you did so because they spent the time to learn the basics of
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
I am actually starting to consider Pentax again. OTOH, probably be ages before is actually buyable. Unless Ricoh has changed all that. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 6:52:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: I see that 14-bit RAW is a choice for video recording. That's something that folks have been hacking the firmware of Canons to get. Nice! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3: And here are your OFFICIAL specs
Thanks. That looks rather impressive. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 7:44:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Pssst: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/K-3/PENTAX%20-%20K-3.html#! product-highlights In case anyone missed it. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: AND now the page is a 404 error. : ) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the clarification, George. I agree with you; I would probably also want the ability to turn that off but it will be interesting to see what sort of images it produces. It is amazing to me what is possible with the in-camera horsepower of the PRIME III. I will be very interested to see what the dynamic range, etc. is for this sensor/camera. If it is anywhere close to the K-5/II/IIs it is probably going to be the *best* APS-C DSLR on the market (at least for a week or two). : ) It is worth remembering that other camera manufacturers also use the Fujitsu Milbeaut image processor and so will be seeing a corresponding jump in *their* capabilities sooner, rather than later. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: that should say more than one correction. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:04 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Darren This is from the highlights page of the K-3 page. Multi-pattern white balance When shooting scenes that include multiple light sources, such as sunlight and shade or flash, light sources are recognized automatically and the image is separated into different areas. White balance is adjusted separately in each area according to the different light sources to achieve optimal color reproduction. Sounds like it makes more than correction in different parts of the same image. I agree, like most other adjustments, it probably only applies to jpgs. But, it sounds like something I would want to turn off or on as a creative tool. I'm thinking of twilight or night shots where you may have several types of light in the same image. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that means that you can save JPEGs from the RAW image in different white balance configurations easily, in camera (which is very cool). ALL of the information is always there in the RAW file. IF that is correct, then I don't see any need to disable, because it won't happen automatically (saving you 9 different JPEGs at each preset white balance). Also, the anti-alias IS accomplished with microscopic sensor vibrations, so I was wrong about that. I don't really understand how it can do that AND shake reduction, but we'll see how it is implemented. I suppose that most people are going to shoot with it OFF and go for the resolution over the (rare) moire problem (unless you are shooting a lot of wedding dresses or something). On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: The multiple white balance corrections in a single photo sounds interesting from a technical standpoint. I hope that is something that can be disabled. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I see it now. Thanks, Brian. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Oh, and BTW - no mention of PRIME III... There is, actually: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/dslr/K-3_#!product-highlights in the section headed Fastest continuous shooting at 8.3FPS -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML
Re: facebook post about being the community photographer
Like! M aka D ;-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 3:27:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eew...@bellsouth.net writes: I agree: Less is more. For real. Especially on Facebook. [If you're into Facebook.] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 at Adorama
I looked and saw no release date. I am actually sort of interested. M aka D :-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 3:21:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: The Pentax K-3 can be pre-ordered from Adorama now. It is available body only for $1,296.95, in a kit with the Pentax W/DA 18-135mm WR Lens for $1,646.95, or in a limited silver edition for $1,596.95. http://www.adorama.com/ALC/BlogArticle.aspx?googleid=0014326alias=Pentax-K- 3-First-Look -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Officially released
Okay. I just lost interest. M aka Doe :-( In a message dated 10/7/2013 6:41:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, anotherdrunken...@gmail.com writes: On 07/10/2013 4:48 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/10/07/shaking-up-the-market-pentax-k-3-first-impressions-review No tiltable screen, flash sync not improved, no aperture simulator, GPS isn't built in. Pentax is doomed. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is 'administrivia' ??
LOL. This is one of the funniest things I have read in a long time. Too bad it is too long for a MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:07:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, s...@stans-photography.info writes: Tarnation is an oxidization process that affects fine silver. The effete elite would probably rather speak of patination, not realizing that patination is not the acquisition of a patina, but rather the process of acquiring a patent. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is 'administrivia' ??
Egad, administrivia is really a word??? Marnie aka Doe ;-) Although, when you think about it, it's a very apt word. In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:14:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, godd...@me.com writes: administrivia: becoming common shorthand for administrative trivia, trans.: here's a bunch of miscellaneous facts and directives you need to know about X that you want to use/learn/operate/enjoy/etc.. tarnish: a film or stain formed on the exposed surface of a metal or mineral whether through oxidation or other chemical reaction. Your friendly dictionary reader, G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is 'administrivia' ??
LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:26:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Portmanteaux is a syndrome suffered by fellows who carry cases of aged fortified wine and have a tendency to drop the odd one onto their feet. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another reason to be wary of Adobe's Creative Cloud
They sent me one of those too, didn't realize that was the cause. I guess now I have to take it more seriously. Not that I am in the cloud, because I am firmly grounded. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/5/2013 9:49:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bori...@gmail.com writes: That's what might have happened to me, apparently. I have created an acct with Adobe when I bought LR some years ago. Just got my e-mail from them wherein they deeply apologized and had me reset my pwd for my Adobe ID or whatever. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking about a new camera
If found this site, that some of you may already be aware of, that just compares camera sizes and weights. To my surprise the K-5 was lighter than the Canon T4i. Nevertheless, I will be going again with Canon. But it's still a fun site... And by the way, if I was going just for image quality in a mirrorless/compact, I'd go with a Fuji X10/X20/whatever. Every review I have read everywhere regarding IQ has been great. (No, still undecided on a non-DSLR. I may, budget willing, get both a DSLR and something else.) http://camerasize.com/ HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/5/2013 8:59:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Christine, I keep lusting after a new camera, particularly those Fuji's after seeing Doug's stuff and reading Cotty. But the K-5 and K-5IIs are so good... I grabbed a white K-01 as they were closing out. It's actually surprisingly good with a tiny lens, but not so small. It rides around in the car with me now. The K-5 (or IIs) with a 31, 20, or 55 are what I carry now. Hard to beat. (pictures I shot this week of a sink I need to have repaired) https://plus.google.com/photos/115638976374047590388/albums/5930231501357379 409?authkey=CLC459SomqGs2QE#photos/115638976374047590388/albums/593023150135 7379409?authkey=CLC459SomqGs2QE Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is 'administrivia' ??
Uh huh. Sorry, Bob, you don't get a mark. I mean you've ALWAYS made things up. Definitions/tall tales. Which by the way, in old English that was defined as being long-nosed lier. Optional adjective, wooden. Which, BTW, derives from the word, lyre. Due to the fact it was struck with a plectrum and a lier has to have a long-nose when they don't have one. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, I tried. Heh. Not very well. In a message dated 10/6/2013 1:34:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: On 6 Oct 2013, at 08:56, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? Funny you should ask that, because the correct name for such a word is an 'akado'. The verb is 'to akado'. Sir Walter Raleigh brought it back from his travels - a new word from the New World, along with tobacco, tomato, potato, avocado, kangaroo and so on. Raleigh introduced so many neologisms, as well as unsavoury habits, that the word akado was used precisely to denote this act of both defining and trying out new things. In fact, though, it was a terrible mistake. Over there in Peruvuela Walt had seen a tribe of Inca greengrocers pushing various tropical fruits to the top of a pyramid, ready to roll them downhill for the annual mid-winter sacrifice to the great Lord Sunnidee (pbuh). This caused a sensation back here in olde England, and the ceremony was taken up with great enthusiasm, but being short of pineapples (and sunshine) we adapted it and it became our cheddar cheese rolling festival. The word itself, along with a deep folk memory of the original ceremony, has entered popular culture but become corrupted over the years in the normal way of these things. Here is some rare documentary footage of unsophisticated Englanders from the past acting out a version of the ancient Peruvuelian sacrifice ceremony: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POv-3yIPSWc B In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:26:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Portmanteaux is a syndrome suffered by fellows who carry cases of aged fortified wine and have a tendency to drop the odd one onto their feet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fun Run
They do don't they? Everyone else looks like they are grimacing or something. Fun. Nice grab. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/4/2013 12:38:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Grace and her friend, Jasmine, lead the pack at their school's annual fun run. They seem to be the only ones who think it's fun: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17547570size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Autumn Impressions
O. Like the spider. Nice one. I hate to think it's autumn already, but in the last week it has become that here in sunny California, too. Drat. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/5/2013 11:59:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml-m...@charter.net writes: www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/autumn-impressions K-01, D-FA 100mm f2.8 CC always appreciated... Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso: jump!
I think it's not worth worrying about. :-) Nice one! you caught her at just the right moment. Good timing. Neighbors put in a trampoline and every now and then see the top of a person bouncing up and down (over the top of the fence). Took me a minute the first time it happened to figure out what was the heck was going on. The sound effects, laughter and thumps helped. ;-) Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/3/2013 6:27:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ch...@inielsen.net writes: Trampolines are so much fun. It's a pity they are so dangerous. We took a risk, in order to try out my new radio triggers... http://www.christinenielsen.com/sharing/h7f652ab4#h7f652ab4 This was just for testing fun, but next time I might try to position the lights to eliminate the shadow. Or, construct a bigger fence, so as not to cut off her shadow at the waist. Which do you think? :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Balcony
Like the lines and balance. Nice one. Good eye. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/2/2013 6:23:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: In New York City, near Central Park, early on a Sunday morning: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17545063 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17545063-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 24-90) Comments? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon
Like the composition and colors, frank. What is Poutine? Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/3/2013 6:53:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: These guys park in front of City Hall year round. Hot dog carts are everywhere and they're good but these chip wagons have (you guessed it!) French fries. In addition to hot dogs and sausages you can also get burgers as well. And yes, for all you vegans, they all have veggie dogs. Veggie dogs taste pretty bad but there are lots of toppings to kill the taste. But most important, excellent fries: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/the-chip-wagon.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Light
Lovely, Bruce. BTW, you haven't written me back about you-know-what. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/2/2013 6:23:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes: I was going through some older photos and came across this shot. I don't recall sharing it before. This was taken in the film days, so I can't remember all the details. I believe the camera was a PZ1p and the lens was an FA 28/2.8. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/10062112613/ -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Morning Light
Well, you take a bucket or step stool with you to stand on when you are too low for a shot. Oh, and a purple evil minion with wild hair (it used to be a troll toy with orange hair, but time moves on). Then you plump it down in the middle of the shot. To give perspective and be annoying cute. And if you really, really want to and have the time -- you travel around the world and plump it down in the middle of shots in all the countries you visit. Hmmm, maybe that's not what you meant. Have a Nice Day!, Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/3/2013 11:51:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes: Certainly an interesting topic of conversation - how far to go altering nature in our nature shots The simple act of taking the picture (exposure, lens choice, angle of shot, etc) all influence the result. Then there is the post processing that can become extensive. So any thoughts on if/when too much is too much? That would include even building new elements. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely scene, Bruce. Until Ken mentioned it, I didn't even notice that LH bit of tree. Now I can't un-see it, and I think it spoils the composition. So I agree with Ken. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:07 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Great capture! But if it were mine I'd eliminate about 1/3rd of the foreground and the partial tree on the LH side. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: PESO - Morning Light I was going through some older photos and came across this shot. I don't recall sharing it before. This was taken in the film days, so I can't remember all the details. I believe the camera was a PZ1p and the lens was an FA 28/2.8. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/10062112613/ -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris #40 - Playing with light
Okay, here's brutal. It's a little too divided down the middle. Like it is two shots, bush on one side, light with sun on the other. Other than that, it's fine. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Are you sure you really want the word brutal in your comment solicitation? In a message dated 10/4/2013 3:03:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bori...@gmail.com writes: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/10/2013-40-playing-with-light.html Your brutal and honest critique is appreciated in advance. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Parasol
That is some mushroom. Like the details in the cap. Have you tried it BW? I think it might be even better that way. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/1/2013 11:54:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, to...@repiuk.nl writes: The mushroom version: http://flic.kr/p/ginBVP Q with 01 lens and popup flash Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cliff Dwelling
Love Mesa Verde. You know, that's always been a difficult shot because of the deep shadow. Sometimes digital is better than film (well, it always is for things like this). Nice one. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/3/2013 5:14:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: The Spruce Tree House at Mesa Verde. Really only a documentary shot but I was impressed with the amount of detail that could be extracted from the dwelling under the cliff overhang, which was in deep shade. This was a jpg shot with the K-5 and the DA 55-300. http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP1864-K5-1peso.htm l Comments, etc most welcome. -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Just in Time for Thanksgiving
They are all over the place here, and sorry, can't look at pictures of them with any enjoyment. There used to be an Eastern and a Western Wild Turkey. Now the ones we have in California are Eastern Wild Turkeys. Because long in the past, ours died out (or were all killed/eaten). Then someone had the bright idea of introducing (re-introducing) the Eastern Wild Turkey to fill that niche. But they no longer have that many (or any) natural predators and they have taken off and taken over. I've often wondered, looking at them, if they make good eating or not. Marnie aka Doe :-) Been tempted. There is always road kill. In a message dated 10/3/2013 11:59:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1060027 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Just in Time for Thanksgiving
MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/4/2013 2:48:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, co...@seeingeye.tv writes: On 4/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: The rare gift of a fine photographer and a Biblical scholar in one person ... Not to mention a first rate piss artist. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Chip Wagon
Is it fun having no one believe a word you say? Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 7:37:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Like the composition and colors, frank. What is Poutine? It's French for Putin. In Canada the Quebecois have continued an old custom brought over from Normandy in pre-Columbian times by Erique le Fromage-mangeur of consuming their sworn enemies in effigy, hence the name of this popular cheesy comestible. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Poutine Zut alors! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What is 'administrivia' ??
Okay, that's a good one. LOL. BTW, I wasn't even trying to out piss-artist you. No way, on either side of the pond, could I succeed. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/6/2013 7:47:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com Uh huh. Sorry, Bob, you don't get a mark. I mean you've ALWAYS made things up. Definitions/tall tales. Which by the way, in old English that was defined as being long-nosed lier. Optional adjective, wooden. Which, BTW, derives from the word, lyre. Due to the fact it was struck with a plectrum and a lier has to have a long-nose when they don't have one. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, I tried. Heh. Not very well. On Cotty's life, it's all true, I swear! What you haven't mentioned is that back in those days plectrums were made from the chippings left over from pine-oaks that were used to build the ships on which Raleigh, Cabot, Drake, Columbus and Marco Polo sailed westwards. Marco Polo brought a ship-load back to Genoa, claiming they were the fingernails of the Great Khan's concubines, after he'd failed to discover China, and he was mercilessly mocked for lying about it, the Genoans calling him variously Kublai Khan't and Pine Oak Polo, which they naturalised to Pinocchio. B In a message dated 10/6/2013 1:34:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: On 6 Oct 2013, at 08:56, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: LOL. Okay, another one. MARK! Marnie aka Doe :-) These are much better than puns, guys. But not sure what to call them, made-up definitions? Funny you should ask that, because the correct name for such a word is an 'akado'. The verb is 'to akado'. Sir Walter Raleigh brought it back from his travels - a new word from the New World, along with tobacco, tomato, potato, avocado, kangaroo and so on. Raleigh introduced so many neologisms, as well as unsavoury habits, that the word akado was used precisely to denote this act of both defining and trying out new things. In fact, though, it was a terrible mistake. Over there in Peruvuela Walt had seen a tribe of Inca greengrocers pushing various tropical fruits to the top of a pyramid, ready to roll them downhill for the annual mid-winter sacrifice to the great Lord Sunnidee (pbuh). This caused a sensation back here in olde England, and the ceremony was taken up with great enthusiasm, but being short of pineapples (and sunshine) we adapted it and it became our cheddar cheese rolling festival. The word itself, along with a deep folk memory of the original ceremony, has entered popular culture but become corrupted over the years in the normal way of these things. Here is some rare documentary footage of unsophisticated Englanders from the past acting out a version of the ancient Peruvuelian sacrifice ceremony: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=POv-3yIPSWc B In a message dated 10/2/2013 4:26:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes: Portmanteaux is a syndrome suffered by fellows who carry cases of aged fortified wine and have a tendency to drop the odd one onto their feet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
