Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

thanks Bill, so its not me lol

Yes i found the remove tool to be a bit better


Dave

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 7:17 PM Bill  wrote:

> Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again
> with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in
> a row.
>
> So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that
> Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.
>
> Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a
> lot of losers to have a winner.
>
> bill
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[Bill]

Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again 
with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in 
a row.


So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that 
Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.


Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a 
lot of losers to have a winner.


bill

On 2/9/2024 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave





  directly above and

follow the directions.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave



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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

so, it looks like I may have been trying to do this with the wrong tools,
saw a video on the removal tool which worked on my example photo.

Thanks to Bill and Bon for their generous help

DAVE

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:29 PM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024
>
> All my attempts agave failed miserably
>
> Dave
>
> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
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>
>
>
> >
>> >
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
>> >
>> > Dave
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[Bill]

I opened the image in Photoshop, drew quite loosely around the tripod 
head with the lasso tool, then edit/generative fill and clicked fill 
with nothing in the dialogue box.


If you do too tight a selection Photoshop will screw it up, it needs 
surrounding detail to create the fill so you need to give it plenty of 
elbow room. The selection I gave it was about the same size as the globe.


My understanding is that generative fill in it's present form creates 
everything at a maximum resolution of 1024x1024. The people who know 
more than me seem to be using fixed size boxes at that size and then 
doing multiple passes with generative fill with higher resolution images.


One of the things you might have received with your subscription is 
access to Photoshop Beta which is the test bed for Photoshop, so new 
features appear there and as they are perfected they then trickle into 
Photoshop 24 as updates.


For example, the image I posted was done on Photoshop Beta version 25.0.0


bill


On 2/5/2024 11:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

Dave

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:


https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures



http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:

> https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd
>
> It took about 10 seconds.
>
> bill
>
> On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
> > mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures
> >
> >
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.
> >>
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[Bill]

https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

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In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

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> In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

> On 5 Feb 2024, at 15:49, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.
> 
> Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE
> 
> Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>> On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
>> imac M3.
>> I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
>> I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
>> flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
>> the ball in my finger.
>> I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
>> but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,
>> 
>> I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
>> locate the buttons or links needed todo so.
>> 
>> Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,
>> 
>> Dave .
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.

Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE

Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78

bill


On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hi all

Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
imac M3.
I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
the ball in my finger.
I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,

I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
locate the buttons or links needed todo so.

Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,

Dave .


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OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Hi all

Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
imac M3.
I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
the ball in my finger.
I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,

I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
locate the buttons or links needed todo so.

Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,

Dave .

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Photoshop woes

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I was inspired to see if I could find anything in my photography to 
submit for the PDML PUG for January.


I found something but it's not great, but there was something that might 
have potential if I could combine two photos - taken about an hour apart 
at sunset on a stormy day.


But they're also taken from about 10' apart and for some reason they're 
slightly different focal length (like 150mm & 175mm - I think I was 
using my 80-200 zoom) and the parallax is just enough Photoshop can't to 
an automatic merge.


So I'm doing it manually loading the two DNG files into Photoshop layers

... and it looks like shit.

I hope I can come up with a plan 'B', because I want to get out of my 
current rut.



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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

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Am 23.10.21 um 10:31 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Elements is almost twice as expensive as Affinity Photo and has no free
updates.


And, most of all, it's 8 bit only.

Thanks for all your answers. I'll have a closer look at what has been
suggested.

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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

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On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 10:31:04AM +0200, Henk Terhell wrote:
> Elements is almost twice as expensive as Affinity Photo and has no free
> updates.
> 

Given that the original poster was at least considering a non-ransomware
version of Photoshop (which would almost certainly cost even more, and
would also not have free updates), Elements seemed to be worth mentioning.
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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

[Henk Terhell]

Elements is almost twice as expensive as Affinity Photo and has no free 
updates.


Henk

Op 2021-10-22 om 21:37 schreef Paul Sorenson:

Elements should to everything except JPGs in 16 bit.

-p

On 10/22/2021 1:57 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

Is Elements still happiest doing things in 8 bit, though?

I've been using Affinity Photo for the last few years. I've been very 
happy with it.



At 2:39 PM -0400 10/22/21, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 03:11:43PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:


 Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
 replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. 
Just

 brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.

 Any suggestions besides GIMP?

 Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does 
still run

 > under Big Sur, if any?





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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

[Henk Terhell]

Affinity Photo is my favourite photo editing software for tasks where LR 
falls short, such as for focus stacking and object removal.

For 55 euro you get a copy with free future updates.

Henk

Op 2021-10-22 om 15:11 schreef Ralf R Radermacher:

DxO Photolab 5 doesn't run under Mojave so I've bit the bullet and
updated to Big Sur. As was to be expected, some of my older software
won't work any longer. LR6 still does as long as I won't re-install it
and so should have Photoshop CS6, except that it doesn't.

Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. Just
brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.

Any suggestions besides GIMP?

Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does still run
under Big Sur, if any?

Ralf

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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

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Elements should to everything except JPGs in 16 bit.

-p

On 10/22/2021 1:57 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:

Is Elements still happiest doing things in 8 bit, though?

I've been using Affinity Photo for the last few years. I've been very 
happy with it.



At 2:39 PM -0400 10/22/21, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 03:11:43PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:


 Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
 replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. Just
 brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.

 Any suggestions besides GIMP?

 Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does still 
run

 > under Big Sur, if any?




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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

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Is Elements still happiest doing things in 8 bit, though?

I've been using Affinity Photo for the last few years. I've been very 
happy with it.



At 2:39 PM -0400 10/22/21, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 03:11:43PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:


 Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
 replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. Just
 brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.

 Any suggestions besides GIMP?

 Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does still run

 > under Big Sur, if any?


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Re: Looking for Photoshop replacement

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On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 03:11:43PM +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
> Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
> replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. Just
> brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.
> 
> Any suggestions besides GIMP?
> 
> Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does still run
> under Big Sur, if any?
> 
> Ralf

Photoshop Elements does everything you mention above (and a lot more).
I suspect the UI will be quite familiar to anyone used to Photoshop.
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Looking for Photoshop replacement

[Ralf R Radermacher]

DxO Photolab 5 doesn't run under Mojave so I've bit the bullet and
updated to Big Sur. As was to be expected, some of my older software
won't work any longer. LR6 still does as long as I won't re-install it
and so should have Photoshop CS6, except that it doesn't.

Given that most of my photo editing happens DxO, I need something to
replace Photoshop only for occasional processing of other images. Just
brightness, contrast, gamma, colour balance, cropping and re-sizing.

Any suggestions besides GIMP?

Alternatively, which non-ransomware version of Photoshop does still run
under Big Sur, if any?

Ralf

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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

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On 9/12/2021 4:12 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Great - even though I did not spot that!


John in Brisbane


You showed me what to look for.

Thanks

bill




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On 9/11/2021 8:39 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

The only area I can see this might happen is if your History settings are set 
to create a new object (snapshot, etc.).
In that case, on my copy PS will use the name "Open" , but not "untitled".
I could not get it to change the file name in the way it does on your system.
Sorry not to have been much help.


Help you did. In the file saving options, there is a check box for "save
in background" that was checked.
I unchecked that, and life is back to normal.

Thanks

bill



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RE: Dumb Photoshop Question

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Great - even though I did not spot that!


John in Brisbane



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On 9/11/2021 8:39 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> The only area I can see this might happen is if your History settings are set 
> to create a new object (snapshot, etc.).
> In that case, on my copy PS will use the name "Open" , but not "untitled".
> I could not get it to change the file name in the way it does on your system.
> Sorry not to have been much help.

Help you did. In the file saving options, there is a check box for "save 
in background" that was checked.
I unchecked that, and life is back to normal.

Thanks

bill


> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill 
> Sent: Sunday, 12 September 2021 6:17 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Dumb Photoshop Question
> 
> On 9/9/2021 10:53 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File" 
>> menu in PS where this happens on my
system.
>> The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw 
>> "Open" dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
>> added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.
> 
> OK,  did some screen shots:
> 
> Here you can see the open file with the correct file name
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mogiv2
> 
> And here, the drop down menu showing the Save As command that I am used
> to using
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mokb6t
> 
> And finally, what happens when I try to use the Save As command:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mooYZk
> 
> Note, Photoshop has dropped the lettered prefix in favor of "untitled",
> and is using the numbered suffix.
> 
> It's curious. As I mentioned, if I use the Export command, it works fine.
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>>
>> John in Brisbane
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>>
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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[Bill]

On 9/11/2021 8:39 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

The only area I can see this might happen is if your History settings are set 
to create a new object (snapshot, etc.).
In that case, on my copy PS will use the name "Open" , but not "untitled".
I could not get it to change the file name in the way it does on your system.
Sorry not to have been much help.


Help you did. In the file saving options, there is a check box for "save 
in background" that was checked.

I unchecked that, and life is back to normal.

Thanks

bill




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On 9/9/2021 10:53 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File" menu 
in PS where this happens on my system.
The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw "Open" 
dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.


OK,  did some screen shots:

Here you can see the open file with the correct file name

https://flic.kr/p/2mogiv2

And here, the drop down menu showing the Save As command that I am used
to using

https://flic.kr/p/2mokb6t

And finally, what happens when I try to use the Save As command:

https://flic.kr/p/2mooYZk

Note, Photoshop has dropped the lettered prefix in favor of "untitled",
and is using the numbered suffix.

It's curious. As I mentioned, if I use the Export command, it works fine.

thanks


bill




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RE: Dumb Photoshop Question

[jcoyle]

The only area I can see this might happen is if your History settings are set 
to create a new object (snapshot, etc.).
In that case, on my copy PS will use the name "Open" , but not "untitled".
I could not get it to change the file name in the way it does on your system.
Sorry not to have been much help.

John in Brisbane



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On 9/9/2021 10:53 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File" 
> menu in PS where this happens on my system.
> The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw 
> "Open" dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
> added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.

OK,  did some screen shots:

Here you can see the open file with the correct file name

https://flic.kr/p/2mogiv2

And here, the drop down menu showing the Save As command that I am used 
to using

https://flic.kr/p/2mokb6t

And finally, what happens when I try to use the Save As command:

https://flic.kr/p/2mooYZk

Note, Photoshop has dropped the lettered prefix in favor of "untitled", 
and is using the numbered suffix.

It's curious. As I mentioned, if I use the Export command, it works fine.

thanks


bill


> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill 
> Sent: Friday, 10 September 2021 11:51 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Dumb Photoshop Question
> 
> I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while,
> and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
> Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather
> than using the original filename.
> The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing
> something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
> Anyone know how to fix it?
> 
> thanks
> 
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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[Bill]

On 9/9/2021 10:53 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File" menu 
in PS where this happens on my system.
The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw "Open" 
dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.


OK,  did some screen shots:

Here you can see the open file with the correct file name

https://flic.kr/p/2mogiv2

And here, the drop down menu showing the Save As command that I am used 
to using


https://flic.kr/p/2mokb6t

And finally, what happens when I try to use the Save As command:

https://flic.kr/p/2mooYZk

Note, Photoshop has dropped the lettered prefix in favor of "untitled", 
and is using the numbered suffix.


It's curious. As I mentioned, if I use the Export command, it works fine.

thanks


bill




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Subject: Dumb Photoshop Question

I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while,
and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather
than using the original filename.
The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing
something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
Anyone know how to fix it?

thanks

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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[Bill]

I'll include screen shots later. I'm having a new internet package
installed today, so my computer won't have internet access for a while.

Thanks

bill

On Thu., Sep. 9, 2021, 10:53 p.m. ,  wrote:

> Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File"
> menu in PS where this happens on my system.
> The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw
> "Open" dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
> added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Dumb Photoshop Question
>
> I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while,
> and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
> Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather
> than using the original filename.
> The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing
> something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
> Anyone know how to fix it?
>
> thanks
>
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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[Paul Stenquist]

It has to do with photoshop opting for lossless file types when you do “save 
as.” 

Paul

> On Sep 9, 2021, at 10:14 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I figured out a work around, or perhaps just how it now works. Rather than 
> using "Save As", if one uses "Export", then it saves using the original 
> filename.
> 
> I can get used to that.
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>> On 9/9/2021 7:50 PM, Bill wrote:
>> I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while, and 
>> have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
>> Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather than 
>> using the original filename.
>> The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing 
>> something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
>> Anyone know how to fix it?
>> thanks
>> bill
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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[David Mann]

That seems a bit strange.  I've been processing some photos today and the only 
times it's added anything to the filename is if I've reopened a raw file 
through Bridge that I've already processed and saved previously.  For the 
record, my workflow is to use Bridge to organise / select my raw files then 
edit in Adobe Camera Raw, finally opening in Photoshop to convert the profile 
and save.  I found Photoshop produced better jpg files than ACR for some reason.

I think this is a recently-added feature as today is the first time I've 
noticed this behaviour.  I only discovered it when it didn't ask me to replace 
the existing file when I saved the newer version - instead it saved a filename 
with "-2" appended.

I've just tried opening a couple of jpg and psd files and this behaviour didn't 
occur.  FWIW I'm using an iMac.

Sorry for not being helpful :)

Cheers,
Dave

> On Sep 10, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while, and 
> have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
> Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather than 
> using the original filename.
> The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing something 
> in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
> Anyone know how to fix it?
> 
> thanks
> 
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RE: Dumb Photoshop Question

[jcoyle]

Hi Bill - can you say when this happens?  I can find nowhere in the "File" menu 
in PS where this happens on my system.
The only similar event is when I select "Open as copy" from the Camera Raw 
"Open" dropdown, when the suffix "-x" is
added to the original file name, where x starts at 1.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
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Subject: Dumb Photoshop Question

I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while, 
and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather 
than using the original filename.
The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing 
something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.
Anyone know how to fix it?

thanks

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Re: Dumb Photoshop Question

[Bill]

I figured out a work around, or perhaps just how it now works. Rather 
than using "Save As", if one uses "Export", then it saves using the 
original filename.


I can get used to that.

bill


On 9/9/2021 7:50 PM, Bill wrote:
I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while, 
and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather 
than using the original filename.
The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing 
something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.

Anyone know how to fix it?

thanks

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Dumb Photoshop Question

[Bill]

I've been using the subscription version of Photoshop for a short while, 
and have run into a decidedly odd and irritating behaviour.
Photoshop insists on changing the filename to "untitled-xxx.xxx rather 
than using the original filename.
The only explanation I've been able to find involves Apple changing 
something in their operating system, but I'm not using an Apple machine.

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thanks

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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[P. J. Alling]

I used to use a technique of stepped up resolution in smallish 
increments of 10% per iteration using bi-cubic sharpening on good well 
exposed *ist-D images.  Then place a layer containing an actual scan of 
film grain on top to add some false detail.  With the right subject, and 
a good well exposed image, and not pushing it too far, maybe going to 
something between 9mp and 12mp, they didn't look too bad printed fairly 
large.  I even created a couple of Photoshop actions to do most of the 
grunt work.


On 3/17/2021 5:15 AM, Alan C wrote:
Automatically upgrade a *1stD 6Mp to K3 24Mp capabillty. K1 to 144Mp! 
I've been reading too much science fiction.


Alan C

On 17-Mar-21 09:02 AM, Toine wrote:

Sure from 32 to 104 MB. I don't see any difference in detail in the
picture. The reviewer on dpreview claimed his jaw dropped on the
floor. My jaw didn't.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:03, Bill  wrote:

On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.

You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?

bill



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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[Alan C]

Automatically upgrade a *1stD 6Mp to K3 24Mp capabillty. K1 to 144Mp! 
I've been reading too much science fiction.


Alan C

On 17-Mar-21 09:02 AM, Toine wrote:

Sure from 32 to 104 MB. I don't see any difference in detail in the
picture. The reviewer on dpreview claimed his jaw dropped on the
floor. My jaw didn't.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:03, Bill  wrote:

On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.

You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?

bill



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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[Toine]

Sure from 32 to 104 MB. I don't see any difference in detail in the
picture. The reviewer on dpreview claimed his jaw dropped on the
floor. My jaw didn't.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 22:03, Bill  wrote:
>
> On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:
> > Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
> > option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
> > I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
> > in my eyes.
>
> You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?
>
> bill
>
>
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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[Alan C]

NCIS has been doing it for years!

Alan C

On 16-Mar-21 11:03 PM, Bill wrote:

On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.


You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?

bill




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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

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On 3/16/2021 1:43 PM, Toine wrote:

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.


You didn't catch that your 24mp image was suddenly 96mp?

bill




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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[Toine]

Tried that with camera raw on several of my KP images. It's the same
option which is included in Lightroom CC. I don't see any difference:
I can see something has changed but it's more between my ears and not
in my eyes.

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Re: Cool Photoshop feature

[David Mann]

And I saw this article about it linked from a news site this morning.
https://petapixel.com/2021/03/13/adobe-photoshops-super-resolution-made-my-jaw-hit-the-floor/

Cheers,
Dave

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> A DP Review user did some testing of the feature - seems impressive:
> 
> https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64944772
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> 
> 
>> On 16 March 2021 at 02:29 Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This was just released a few days ago, so should be on your next update.
>> Camera raw now has a feature called "enhance", which uses artificial 
>> intelligence to increase the resolution of files.
>> I just tried it on a couple of old *istD files, and it seems to work 
>> very well indeed, it turned my 6mp file into a 24mp one with no 
>> upscaling artifacts that I could see.
>> It might be something to consider for people who shoot BIFs.
>> 
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[Brian W]

A DP Review user did some testing of the feature - seems impressive:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/64944772


Cheers
Brian


> On 16 March 2021 at 02:29 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> This was just released a few days ago, so should be on your next update.
> Camera raw now has a feature called "enhance", which uses artificial 
> intelligence to increase the resolution of files.
> I just tried it on a couple of old *istD files, and it seems to work 
> very well indeed, it turned my 6mp file into a 24mp one with no 
> upscaling artifacts that I could see.
> It might be something to consider for people who shoot BIFs.
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Cool Photoshop feature

[Bill]

This was just released a few days ago, so should be on your next update.
Camera raw now has a feature called "enhance", which uses artificial 
intelligence to increase the resolution of files.
I just tried it on a couple of old *istD files, and it seems to work 
very well indeed, it turned my 6mp file into a 24mp one with no 
upscaling artifacts that I could see.

It might be something to consider for people who shoot BIFs.

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Re: Photoshop problems

[Bruce Walker]

Hey, John; glad to hear you are making progress.

The GPU is used for a whole bunch of large and small things.
Particularly for me the GPU is used to render the brush tool cursor
when I choose Full Size Brush Tip and Show Crosshair in Brush Tip. I
use this for more accurate dodging and burning (skin retouching).
It's also used for smooth scrolling around the image when magnified.

If GPU disabled is no different for you from enabling GPU options then
I expect that your graphics card isn't well supported and you'd be
better off just disabling it. Your unusual VGA hookup could be
affecting this. GPUs may need a reasonably modern monitor with a
direct HDMI or USB-3 (USB-C) connection for proper functioning.

Cheers!

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:31 AM  wrote:
>
> Finished testing the GPU options.  Went through each with sample files of
> the same size (9 MB), using no GPU acceleration and then Basic, Normal and
> Advanced settings, and had no problems with the Basic and Normal settings:
> however, on switching to Advanced, the problem recurred.  I found it
> interesting that turning GPU acceleration off did not appear to greatly
> effect the normal speed of redrawing the image after changes such as
> cropping and resizing. So I wonder whether there is any advantage to using
> it of which I am not aware?  Just to add a complication, I am displaying my
> work on an external monitor linked via the VGA socket through a VGA to HDMI
> converter to an HDMI input!
>
> Thanks again, Bruce.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML  On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
> Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 11:50 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: Photoshop problems
>
> John, a few things to consider:
>
> Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to
> an earlier version of Photoshop?
> Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply
> Ps swap.
> Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it
> completely to see the effects.
>
> BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
> >
> > Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a
> > number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files,
> > usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original
> > size of the print (always from prints).
> > I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with
> > no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to
> freeze.
> > Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop
> > with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my
> > scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't
> > think capacity is the issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB
> > RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated.
> > A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing
> > the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update
> unnecessarily.
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> >
> > John in Brisbane
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RE: Photoshop problems

[jcoyle]

Finished testing the GPU options.  Went through each with sample files of
the same size (9 MB), using no GPU acceleration and then Basic, Normal and
Advanced settings, and had no problems with the Basic and Normal settings:
however, on switching to Advanced, the problem recurred.  I found it
interesting that turning GPU acceleration off did not appear to greatly
effect the normal speed of redrawing the image after changes such as
cropping and resizing. So I wonder whether there is any advantage to using
it of which I am not aware?  Just to add a complication, I am displaying my
work on an external monitor linked via the VGA socket through a VGA to HDMI
converter to an HDMI input!

Thanks again, Bruce.


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Subject: Re: Photoshop problems

John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to
an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply
Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it
completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
>
> Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a 
> number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, 
> usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original 
> size of the print (always from prints).
> I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with 
> no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to
freeze.
> Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop 
> with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my 
> scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't 
> think capacity is the issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB 
> RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated.
> A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing 
> the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update
unnecessarily.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
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RE: Photoshop problems

[jcoyle]

Hi Bruce - thanks for the suggestions: I'm using just over 9GB of scratch
space on a separate drive, which is in the mid-range of what PS is
recommending.  I'm going to switch through the GPU options to see what
effect each has, starting with it disabled.


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John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried downgrading to
an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to supply
Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling it
completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
>
> Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a 
> number of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, 
> usually at anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original 
> size of the print (always from prints).
> I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with 
> no problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to
freeze.
> Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop 
> with a decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my 
> scratch disk, and over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't 
> think capacity is the issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB 
> RAM and 64-bit W10 fully updated.
> A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing 
> the issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update
unnecessarily.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
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Re: Photoshop problems

[Alan C]

Thanks, Henk. My feeling too but upgrading is so expensive in SA now. 
I'll see if I can find some bargain basement RAM. Hopefully 16G will be 
somewhat better.


Alan C

On 04-Apr-20 05:35 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:
Alan, the only solution in my opinion is to upgrade or replace 
hardware. For photo editing of RAW files 6G RAM is borderline and 
having an old system won't help as well.


Henk
Op 2020-04-04 om 16:48 schreef Alan C:
I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 
13 which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is 
much slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller 
K110D files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't 
really process more than half a dozen files at a time without 
paralysing the system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but 
wonder if this is enough? Any helpful comments would be much 
appreciated. The computer is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 
processor running Win10.


Alan C

On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried
downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to
supply Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling
it completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a 
number

of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the 
print

(always from prints).
I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. 
with no
problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to 
freeze.
Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop 
with a
decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch 
disk, and
over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity 
is the
issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 
fully

updated.
A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing 
the
issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update 
unnecessarily.



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Re: Photoshop problems

[Henk Terhell]

Alan, the only solution in my opinion is to upgrade or replace hardware. 
For photo editing of RAW files 6G RAM is borderline and having an old 
system won't help as well.


Henk
Op 2020-04-04 om 16:48 schreef Alan C:
I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 
which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much 
slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D 
files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really 
process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the 
system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is 
enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer 
is an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10.


Alan C

On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried
downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to
supply Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling
it completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
Last few days PSCC has become unusable. I am currently working on a 
number

of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the 
print

(always from prints).
I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. 
with no
problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to 
freeze.
Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop 
with a
decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch 
disk, and
over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity 
is the
issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 
fully

updated.
A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the
issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update 
unnecessarily.



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Re: Photoshop problems

[Alan C]

Yes, I originally had that & still wonder why I upgraded! I have an 
older (free) version of DXO too - contains some useful presets.


Alan C

On 04-Apr-20 05:02 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:49 AM Alan C  wrote:


I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13


Im still on Elements 9.

Dave



which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much
slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D
files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really
process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the
system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is
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Re: Photoshop problems

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:49 AM Alan C  wrote:

> I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13
>

Im still on Elements 9.

Dave


> which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much
> slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D
> files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really
> process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the
> system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is
> enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is
> an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10.
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Re: Photoshop problems

[Alan C]

I've been following this thread with interest. I still use Elements 13 
which is quite good enough for my purposes but have noticed it is much 
slower with the larger K5 files than it was with the smaller K110D 
files. I've tweaked everything as best I can but find I can't really 
process more than half a dozen files at a time without paralysing the 
system. I have 6G RAM and 12G Virtual Memory but wonder if this is 
enough? Any helpful comments would be much appreciated. The computer is 
an oldish Acer Laptop with Intel Core i3 processor running Win10.


Alan C

On 04-Apr-20 03:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried
downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to
supply Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling
it completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:

Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a number
of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print
(always from prints).
I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no
problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze.
Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a
decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and
over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the
issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully
updated.
A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the
issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily.


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Re: Photoshop problems

[Bruce Walker]

John, a few things to consider:

Since changing the app is easier than Windows, have you tried
downgrading to an earlier version of Photoshop?
Try adding more scratch space. You can configure multiple drives to
supply Ps swap.
Try playing with the GPU acceleration options. I'd first try disabling
it completely to see the effects.

BTW, it's working fine for me on a 5K iMac. Ps version 21.0.3.

Good luck!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 10:16 PM  wrote:
>
> Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a number
> of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
> anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print
> (always from prints).
> I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no
> problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze.
> Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a
> decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and
> over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the
> issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully
> updated.
> A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the
> issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
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Re: Photoshop problems

[Paul Stenquist]

PSCC is working fine for me on my Mac. Adobe provided an update just the other 
day.

Paul

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 10:16 PM, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a number
> of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
> anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print
> (always from prints).
> I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no
> problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze.
> Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a
> decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and
> over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the
> issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully
> updated.
> A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the
> issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily.
> 
> 
> John in Brisbane
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Photoshop problems

[jcoyle]

Last few days PSCC has become unusable.  I am currently working on a number
of old family photos, which I have scanned to TIFF files, usually at
anything from 400-1200 ppi, depending upon the original size of the print
(always from prints).
I can crop, spot fix, clone areas, adjust highlights/shadows etc. with no
problems, but even a minor resize causes the whole application to freeze.
Anyone else having this problem?  I am using an HP Pavilion laptop with a
decent specification, and have over 107GB available on my scratch disk, and
over 800Gb available on the source disk, so I don't think capacity is the
issue.  Processor is a Core-i7 at 1.80 GHz, 16GB RAM and 64-bit W10 fully
updated.
A little research suggests perhaps it is not PS but Windows causing the
issue, but I don't want to roll back the last windows update unnecessarily.


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OT: A photoshop batch task?

[collinb]

I've a base template PSD file with 3 layers. File has been duplicated to the
desired target files n advance.
#1 is the background
#2 is text
#3 is text.
I'd like to read info from a text file and loop through created PSD files
and change the layer 2 and layer 3 text to what I read sequentially from the
text file.
Anyone ever do that?

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People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Bipin Gupta]

I've been using Photoshop for donkey years, but stopped with the CS6
version for a couple of reasons:
a) Photography is my hobby and I am not into it for money. Also I have
this idiosyncrasy to own the very best of things like shoes- Bata,
Cameras - Pentax, Watch - Rolex & Omega, Cars - Infinity, Travel
Luggage - Samsonite & so on.
But I changed to a 4K Intel Core i7 laptop, and the fonts + modules
appeared miniscule and I could not read them. Adobe & Microsoft were
at loggerheads blaming each other so the problem remains unsolved.
RIP Photoshop CS6.
b) $ 10 a month may appear small, but I would rather own my own
software which resides on my own machine, not somewhere in the cloud.
Reason why I have not moved into a Gated Community where you pay a
monthly service + maintenance charge and listen to all the Rules they
make.
I rather have my own little house at the meeting point of 4-Roads -
what is called a unique corner site.
c) I have used a number of Software - Pentax's own PDCU5, Cyberlink
Photo Director, DxO Optics Pro, Lightroom + some more, but find LR CC
2015.12 with the NIK interface the friendliest, easiest & fast.
d) I am aware that Photoshop is the Studio Owner's and Pro Photogs
favorite, so they will have to go on using it in whatever way Adobe
hands it out to them - whether they have a choice or not.
Not for me, as I will move on to something else like Luminar, GIMP etc.

Thanks for reading.
Bipin
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People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Bipin Gupta]

I've been using Photoshop for donkey years, but stopped with the CS6
version for a couple of reasons:
a) Photography is my hobby and I am not into it for money. Also I have this
idiosyncrasy to own the very best of things like shoes- Bata, Cameras -
Pentax, Watch - Rolex & Omega, Cars - Infinity, Travel Luggage - Samsonite
& so on.
But I changed to a 4K Intel Core i7 laptop, and the fonts + modules
appeared miniscule and I could not read them. Adobe & Microsoft were at
loggerheads blaming each other so the problem remains unsolved.
RIP Photoshop CS6.
b) $ 10 a month may appear small, but I would rather own my own software
which resides on my own machine, not somewhere in the cloud.
Reason why I have not moved into a Gated Community where you pay a monthly
service + maintenance charge and listen to all the Rules they make.
I rather have my own little house at the meeting point of 4-Roads - what is
called a unique corner site.
c) I have used a number of Software - Pentax's own PDCU5, Cyberlink Photo
Director, DxO Optics Pro, Lightroom + some more, but find LR CC 2015.12
with the NIK interface the friendliest, easiest & fast.
d) I am aware that Photoshop is the Studio Owner's and Pro Photogs
favorite, so they will have to go on using it in whatever way Adobe hands
it out to them - whether they have a choice or not.
Not for me, as I will move on to something else like Luminar, GIMP etc.

Thanks for reading.
Bipin
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Brian Walters]

Well, I'll add my 2 cents...

I used the CC Photographer's Plan when it first appeared and kept at it for
about 18 months. Prior to that I was using CS3. However, I found that I just
wasn't making use of CC's additional features over CS3 (other than occasional
use of the dehaze filter), so I cancelled the subscription and went back to CS3.
 CS3 handles raw DNGs from my K5 and, with the Metaraw plugin I can even open
raws from my Olympus OMDs.


Cheers

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> On 16 November 2017 at 08:47 Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I
> asked why she said:
> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and
> just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused
> to upgrade to Creative Cloud
> 
> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just
> their rapacious business model?
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[John]

On 11/15/2017 16:47, Larry Colen wrote:

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused 
to upgrade to Creative Cloud

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I'd just like to add that I'm now looking at 32" (or larger) 4K monitors. Don't need one, 
but I'd like to have one, although my internal pressure hasn't built up to "gotta have 
it" levels.

So for now, I'm only "just lookin'".

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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Paul Stenquist]

I’m an unemployed professional baseball player.


> On Nov 16, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't used Photoshop CC but if you want to work for pay, in any part of 
>> the graphics, industry that's what you use.
> 
> Candice happens to be an unemployed professional graphic artist.  It’s 
> actually for her friend Brett who is just a 
> 
>> 
>> I'm still using Photoshop CS2.  I'm not an artist or illustrator, 
>> professional or otherwise. I'm an, occasionally good, photographer.  I don't 
>> need 90% of the features that Photoshop, even a version as ancient, as CS2 
>> provides.
> 
> I’ve got an old copy of photoshop that I got through a friend who works at 
> adobe. Every feature that I found myself needing in it has been rolled into 
> lightroom, so I can’t even remember when I last fired it up.
> 
>> 
>> There are a number of Photoshop competitors that appear to have almost the 
>> same features for less money or are available for outright purchase.   
>> Unless there is something you /need/ that only the latest version of 
>> Photoshop has, which seems unlikely for a Photographer, there's no need to 
>> upgrade.
>> 
>> The current business model that Adobe is following is good for most 
>> professionals, it's also very, very good for Adobe who seem to be minting 
>> money at the moment.  It's not so good for the average photographer, who 
>> needs to upgrade occasionally as hardware improves and those improvements 
>> are happening with much less frequency.
> 
> It’s good for professionals that use photoshop. It’s less good for folks who 
> just use Lightroom.  I don’t know of a single feature in Lightroom CC I need 
> that isn’t in LR6.  For that matter, there are serious issues with the cool 
> new features in LR6 that makes them much less useful than they could be.  The 
> subscription cost is about the same as the cost of upgrading every year, with 
> the added cost of losing the ability to edit photos if I stop upgrading.   
> Yes, in theory, I could always fall back to LR6, until they change the 
> processing engine.  
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/15/2017 4:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and 
>>> when I asked why she said:
>>> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade 
>>> and just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much 
>>> refused to upgrade to Creative Cloud
>>> 
>>> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
>>> their rapacious business model?
>>> --
>>> Larry Colen
>>> l...@red4est.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I haven't used Photoshop CC but if you want to work for pay, in any part of 
> the graphics, industry that's what you use.

Candice happens to be an unemployed professional graphic artist.  It’s actually 
for her friend Brett who is just a 
 
> 
> I'm still using Photoshop CS2.  I'm not an artist or illustrator, 
> professional or otherwise. I'm an, occasionally good, photographer.  I don't 
> need 90% of the features that Photoshop, even a version as ancient, as CS2 
> provides.

I’ve got an old copy of photoshop that I got through a friend who works at 
adobe. Every feature that I found myself needing in it has been rolled into 
lightroom, so I can’t even remember when I last fired it up.

> 
> There are a number of Photoshop competitors that appear to have almost the 
> same features for less money or are available for outright purchase.   Unless 
> there is something you /need/ that only the latest version of Photoshop has, 
> which seems unlikely for a Photographer, there's no need to upgrade.
> 
> The current business model that Adobe is following is good for most 
> professionals, it's also very, very good for Adobe who seem to be minting 
> money at the moment.  It's not so good for the average photographer, who 
> needs to upgrade occasionally as hardware improves and those improvements are 
> happening with much less frequency.

It’s good for professionals that use photoshop. It’s less good for folks who 
just use Lightroom.  I don’t know of a single feature in Lightroom CC I need 
that isn’t in LR6.  For that matter, there are serious issues with the cool new 
features in LR6 that makes them much less useful than they could be.  The 
subscription cost is about the same as the cost of upgrading every year, with 
the added cost of losing the ability to edit photos if I stop upgrading.   Yes, 
in theory, I could always fall back to LR6, until they change the processing 
engine.  


> 
> 
> 
> On 11/15/2017 4:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when 
>> I asked why she said:
>> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade 
>> and just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much 
>> refused to upgrade to Creative Cloud
>> 
>> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
>> their rapacious business model?
>> --
>> Larry Colen
>> l...@red4est.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Doug Brewer]

I use it. I don't use it as much as I use Lightroom, but I do sometimes 
slide it open if I determine I need something it offers that LR doesn't, 
and it works. The newest version is pretty snappy, even on my relatively 
old MBP, although I have to say I seldom work with excessively large files.


Editing photos rises to the level of meditative state for me, during 
which I immerse myself in the process and shut out the dark noise of the 
world for a while, and for that state I find it difficult to get too 
torqued up about ten bucks a month. Your mileage, of course, may vary.


On 11/15/17 4:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused 
to upgrade to Creative Cloud

Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[P. J. Alling]

I haven't used Photoshop CC but if you want to work for pay, in any part 
of the graphics, industry that's what you use.


I'm still using Photoshop CS2.  I'm not an artist or illustrator, 
professional or otherwise. I'm an, occasionally good, photographer.  I 
don't need 90% of the features that Photoshop, even a version as 
ancient, as CS2 provides.


There are a number of Photoshop competitors that appear to have almost 
the same features for less money or are available for outright 
purchase.   Unless there is something you /need/ that only the latest 
version of Photoshop has, which seems unlikely for a Photographer, 
there's no need to upgrade.


The current business model that Adobe is following is good for most 
professionals, it's also very, very good for Adobe who seem to be 
minting money at the moment.  It's not so good for the average 
photographer, who needs to upgrade occasionally as hardware improves and 
those improvements are happening with much less frequency.




On 11/15/2017 4:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused 
to upgrade to Creative Cloud

Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
their rapacious business model?
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[John]

On 11/15/2017 16:47, Larry Colen wrote:

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused 
to upgrade to Creative Cloud

Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
their rapacious business model?
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I'm still using CS6 Extended;  seems to handle the K-1 DNG files with no 
trouble. I'll probably update my NIK filters if DXO brings out new ones (now 
that they bought NIK from Google).

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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Zos Xavius]

Frankly its obvious that new development is only going to be on CC
from this point forward. Lightroom 6 was constantly behind the CC
version too, so that should say a lot about how much they care about
it. Adobe wanted to pull this move to subscription all along. It makes
sense if you regularly buy new versions of lightroom anyways. Frankly
I pirated versions 2-5, but now that they have the CC versions I can
just use my work copy legitimately. That said, if I had to pay the $10
a month I would gladly. I get way more than $10 a month of usefulness
out of both products. People love to praise capture one, but it is
basically twice as expensive and doesn't even have photoshop which I
feel is a necessity anyways. Frankly I still like lightroom. It
finally is playing nice again on my computer so I don't hate it like I
did a year ago. Of course upgrading to the PC equivalent of a Macbook
Pro didn't hurt either. Once you get your catalog file and previews on
an SSD and get your ram in the 16-32gb range it will run pretty well
even on an older computer with a fairly slow GPU. The ram and SSD are
the big things. An sandybridge or newer i5 or i7 doesn't hurt either.
It ran perfectly fine on my older crap Acer i5@2.5ghz when I stuck
16gb of ram in the machine. On 8gb it was pretty painful, especially
when the OS was running off of a slow HD drive. I also have a 200k
image catalog in lightroom. When I make a new catalog for small
projects with just a few thousand images it is really fast. So unless
your catalog isn't really huge, you can probably get away with even
less of a machine. The big thing was just getting enough ram so you
aren't swapping. LR alone can eat up 4-5GB of RAM pretty easily. If
you stitch panoramas I've seen it use up to 20GB or so pretty easily.
So its not really efficient in terms of ram usage for panorama
creation.  It does make a fully RAW panorama though which is really,
really cool if you think about it.

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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Zos Xavius]

Didn't mean to quote John there btw either. Just a general reply. :)

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> CC has come quite a ways since version 5. Just being able to do
> panoramas and hdr in lightroom alone is pretty huge. For $10 a month
> with photoshop its really not a bad deal at all considering what you
> get. Photoshop CC is pretty nice too. The new CC Classic has a lot of
> performance improvements and I can say it definitely feels a bit
> snappier than the older version. Dehaze comes in pretty handy too,
> especially if you landscape. With a light touch it does actually work
> pretty well.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:08 PM, John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> I've had the CC version since it was launched, and have had absolutely no 
>> issues with it.  I moved
>> up to it from PS Elements, and before then had CS3, so there was a 
>> significant improvement in
>> functionality.  The advantage of having new features and improvements 
>> available immediately at no
>> additional cost is a definite plus.
>> I must say I don't consider the cost to be rapacious - for me, with just PS 
>> and Bridge, it's only
>> A$13 a month!  I neither like nor want Lightroom, but I could add that again 
>> with no increase in the
>> cost, I believe.
>>
>> My 2c worth
>>
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
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>> <ccmo...@pacbell.net>
>> Subject: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop
>>
>> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when 
>> I asked why she said:
>> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade 
>> and just about everyone I
>> know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused to upgrade to 
>> Creative Cloud
>>
>> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
>> their rapacious business
>> model?
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>> l...@red4est.com
>>
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[Zos Xavius]

CC has come quite a ways since version 5. Just being able to do
panoramas and hdr in lightroom alone is pretty huge. For $10 a month
with photoshop its really not a bad deal at all considering what you
get. Photoshop CC is pretty nice too. The new CC Classic has a lot of
performance improvements and I can say it definitely feels a bit
snappier than the older version. Dehaze comes in pretty handy too,
especially if you landscape. With a light touch it does actually work
pretty well.

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 6:08 PM, John Coyle <jco...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I've had the CC version since it was launched, and have had absolutely no 
> issues with it.  I moved
> up to it from PS Elements, and before then had CS3, so there was a 
> significant improvement in
> functionality.  The advantage of having new features and improvements 
> available immediately at no
> additional cost is a definite plus.
> I must say I don't consider the cost to be rapacious - for me, with just PS 
> and Bridge, it's only
> A$13 a month!  I neither like nor want Lightroom, but I could add that again 
> with no increase in the
> cost, I believe.
>
> My 2c worth
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop
>
> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when 
> I asked why she said:
> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade 
> and just about everyone I
> know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused to upgrade to 
> Creative Cloud
>
> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
> their rapacious business
> model?
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RE: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[John Coyle]

I've had the CC version since it was launched, and have had absolutely no 
issues with it.  I moved
up to it from PS Elements, and before then had CS3, so there was a significant 
improvement in
functionality.  The advantage of having new features and improvements available 
immediately at no
additional cost is a definite plus.
I must say I don't consider the cost to be rapacious - for me, with just PS and 
Bridge, it's only
A$13 a month!  I neither like nor want Lightroom, but I could add that again 
with no increase in the
cost, I believe.

My 2c worth


John in Brisbane



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Subject: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
just about everyone I
know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much refused to upgrade to Creative 
Cloud

Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
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model?
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Re: People's thoughts on Adobe CC photoshop

[DagT]

I use PS CC (now 2018). 

It works OK, and especially after I got the K-1 and the kamera and lens 
profiles were updated pretty fast. Too often a camera upgrade earlier meant an 
updated PS too, so if you change cameras (too) often the price of the CC is not 
that much.

On the other hand I´m not an advanced PS user, so I can´t answer any 
complicated questions :-) 

DagT


> 15. nov. 2017 kl. 22.47 skrev Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com>:
> 
> My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when 
> I asked why she said:
> I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade 
> and just about everyone I know is still using CS5/CS6 and have pretty much 
> refused to upgrade to Creative Cloud
> 
> Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
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[Larry Colen]

My friend Candice ccmo...@pacbell.net  asked me about photoshop cc, and when I 
asked why she said:
I'm looking for reviews from people I know, because Brett wants to upgrade and 
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Would anyone like to share their thoughts on how it works, rather than just 
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[ann sanfedele]

It's really depressing that it won - also ironic that the moon actually 
detracts - he didn't need to insert that to do well


ann

On 3/21/2017 5:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on
processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No
watermarks or copyright info on image".

So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating.


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Brian Walters]

Yes it's certainly a misleading image but the only restrictions on
processing in the somewhat lax "rules" for that challenge were "No
watermarks or copyright info on image".

So, strictly speaking, it's probably not cheating.


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Igor PDML-StR]

John F.:

But the clouds can be from the other side of the Earth... or Moon...
... No, they are from Mars, coming to Moon as a part of the seasons, when 
it becomes to cold on Mars... And then going back to Mars.

[BG]
;-)

 John Francis Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:47:26 -0700 wrote:


Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of
a give-away.






John S.:

It would have to be at the right inclination that Stan can easily 
calculate from the data he's already collected. :-)


Igor


John Sessoms Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:25:08 -0700 wrote:

If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it
would have still been a "winning" image.


On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Gonz wrote:

Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[P. J. Alling]

The Moon being in front of the clouds is a dead giveaway before I even 
bothered to pixel peep.



On 3/21/2017 1:23 PM, Gonz wrote:

Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[John Sessoms]

If the photographer had inserted just a sliver of an almost new moon it
would have still been a "winning" image.

On 3/21/2017 2:45 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Gonz wrote:


Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
sunrise/sunset and clouds...


What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Steve Cottrell]

On 21/3/17, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning.
>2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual
>observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. 
>3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing
>of 97.3°, a bit South of East.
>
>The photo is shopped. QED.

Don't keep us in suspense Stan. What is the take-off weight of that
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Gonz]

Yes, shocking.  lol


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Mark Roberts
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>
>>Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
>>sunrise/sunset and clouds...
>
> What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:23:20PM -0500, Gonz wrote:
> Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
> sunrise/sunset and clouds...

Well, the fact that the moon is obscuring some of the clouds is a bit of a 
give-away.
(Not to mention the rather obvious dark ring round the moon)


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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Gonz wrote:

>Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
>sunrise/sunset and clouds...

What, you mean you can't have the sun setting (or rising) almost
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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

[Stanley Halpin]

Ok ok yes I believed you. But I had to check anyway…

On Oct 12, 2011 when the photo was allegedly taken,
in the Masai Mara where the dastardly deed was done,
in the early morning as implied by the title of the image:

1. The moon was full at 0505 that morning.
2. The moon set at 0620 on a bearing of 281.4° as seen from the casual 
observers position on Saltlick road. I.e., basically a bit North of West. 
3. The sun rose at 0623 that morning, as you might expect, on a bearing of 
97.3°, a bit South of East.

The photo is shopped. QED.

[Data courtesy of The Photographers Ephemeris Web Application]

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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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Not a great cutout either. Pretty clear artifacts along the circumference.

I think there's an exposé thread about it going on too.


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Re: How to cheat & win with Photoshop

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Moon was photoshopped in?  Looks like it, not consistent with
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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If that's the case I might give it a go, when I can find the time.

Cheers,
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> On Nov 24, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> I'm not sure this is true, yet. 
> 
> What is true is that macOS Sierra does not ship with the Java engine in 
> place, which PS CS5 depends upon. However, there is now a Java download for 
> macOS Sierra ... with that installed, PSCS5 should work. I might try it when 
> I get back to my desk. 
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Apple stopped bundling Java when Mountain Lion shipped, I think. At least two 
or three major releases back. It has come from Oracle since. 

G

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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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I would think Oracle has an installer for Java for MacOS. If Apple
bundles Java then it is probably their own flavor. Personally I would
rather use official java. Microsoft used to have its own java stack
and it was terrible.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I'm not sure this is true, yet.
>
> What is true is that macOS Sierra does not ship with the Java engine in 
> place, which PS CS5 depends upon. However, there is now a Java download for 
> macOS Sierra ... with that installed, PSCS5 should work. I might try it when 
> I get back to my desk.
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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I'm not sure this is true, yet. 

What is true is that macOS Sierra does not ship with the Java engine in place, 
which PS CS5 depends upon. However, there is now a Java download for macOS 
Sierra ... with that installed, PSCS5 should work. I might try it when I get 
back to my desk. 

G

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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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Ooh. Yeah I think you are right. I have windows 10 here and do
not have any backwards compatibility issues asides from a few old
windows9x games.

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>
> On Nov 23, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
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>> Just get the serial number for the installation of CS5 and reinstall
>> when you upgrade your OS. Pretty easy really.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:07 PM, David Mann  wrote:
>>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John  wrote:
>>>
 It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
 they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
 the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).
>>>
>>> I feel some of your pain; I'm running CS5 so I can't upgrade my OS until I 
>>> switch to CC.  I'd better get onto it while the exchange rate is in my 
>>> favour (assuming it still is).
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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>From what I've read CS5 is not compatible with MacOS Sierra.

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> Just get the serial number for the installation of CS5 and reinstall
> when you upgrade your OS. Pretty easy really.
> 
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>> On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
>>> they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
>>> the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).
>> 
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>> switch to CC.  I'd better get onto it while the exchange rate is in my 
>> favour (assuming it still is).
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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Just get the serial number for the installation of CS5 and reinstall
when you upgrade your OS. Pretty easy really.

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> On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John  wrote:
>
>> It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
>> they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
>> the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).
>
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

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On Nov 23, 2016, at 4:26 AM, John  wrote:

> It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
> they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
> the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).

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switch to CC.  I'd better get onto it while the exchange rate is in my favour 
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[John]

It's not a bad deal except that I'm still pissed off at Adobe announcing
they were no longer supporting CS6 right after I shelled out $650 for
the upgrade (CS6 Extended, because there was no CS6 Standard available).

On 11/22/2016 2:08 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:


Right now there is a deal for $8 a month for lightroom and photoshop
CC. Not a bad deal really. Then again if you are running a computer
that still has CS6 it might be time to upgrade. My older i5 laptop
struggles with k-3 files even.

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On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:


I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Zos Xavius]

Oh and I forgot that adobe now has k-1 and k-3 ii profiles built in as
well. So you aren't stuck with just adobe standard or embedded
anymore. You can pick natural, portrait, etc. I rarely use anything
other than reversal film (which sadly isn't supported) so the profiles
are pretty useless to me. The portrait and natural ones aren't bad
though.

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> Yes you can just convert pef to dng with the dng converter. Or you can
> shoot DNG and just open the raw. Do note that the K-1 has a bunch of
> advanced features that the older camera raw does not support like
> multiple area white balance. In the latest lightroom, it works with
> the K-3 or at least it doesn't shift to green anymore. Lightroom also
> has the latest adobe profile for the K-1 where the older camera raw
> you are stuck with just embedded. I use embedded usually myself, so
> maybe that's not a big deal. Skin tones can be better sometimes under
> adobe's profile though.
>
> Right now there is a deal for $8 a month for lightroom and photoshop
> CC. Not a bad deal really. Then again if you are running a computer
> that still has CS6 it might be time to upgrade. My older i5 laptop
> struggles with k-3 files even.
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:
>>>
>>> I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
>>> Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in
>>> DNG format?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The K1 PEF is not supported. Adobe ended support for CS6 Camera Raw with the
>> July 29 2015 release of ACR 9.1.1.
>> Users of the K1 either need to shoot DNG or use the Adobe DNG converter on
>> your PEFs and end up with a DNG file anyway.
>>
>> I started shooting DNG with the K10 because Adobe was slow to update ACR and
>> have continued to shoot that format. I see no reason to not shoot DNG files
>> if you are using Adobe products.
>>
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Zos Xavius]

Yes you can just convert pef to dng with the dng converter. Or you can
shoot DNG and just open the raw. Do note that the K-1 has a bunch of
advanced features that the older camera raw does not support like
multiple area white balance. In the latest lightroom, it works with
the K-3 or at least it doesn't shift to green anymore. Lightroom also
has the latest adobe profile for the K-1 where the older camera raw
you are stuck with just embedded. I use embedded usually myself, so
maybe that's not a big deal. Skin tones can be better sometimes under
adobe's profile though.

Right now there is a deal for $8 a month for lightroom and photoshop
CC. Not a bad deal really. Then again if you are running a computer
that still has CS6 it might be time to upgrade. My older i5 laptop
struggles with k-3 files even.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:
>>
>> I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
>> Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in
>> DNG format?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>
> The K1 PEF is not supported. Adobe ended support for CS6 Camera Raw with the
> July 29 2015 release of ACR 9.1.1.
> Users of the K1 either need to shoot DNG or use the Adobe DNG converter on
> your PEFs and end up with a DNG file anyway.
>
> I started shooting DNG with the K10 because Adobe was slow to update ACR and
> have continued to shoot that format. I see no reason to not shoot DNG files
> if you are using Adobe products.
>
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Bill]

On 11/18/2016 1:06 PM, jtainter wrote:

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

Joe





The K1 PEF is not supported. Adobe ended support for CS6 Camera Raw with 
the July 29 2015 release of ACR 9.1.1.
Users of the K1 either need to shoot DNG or use the Adobe DNG converter 
on your PEFs and end up with a DNG file anyway.


I started shooting DNG with the K10 because Adobe was slow to update ACR 
and have continued to shoot that format. I see no reason to not shoot 
DNG files if you are using Adobe products.



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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Philip Northeast]

I always save as DNG in my K5 and K1

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On 19/11/16 6:06 am, jtainter wrote:

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

Joe





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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Shoot DNG. No reason not to. I have PS6 and a K-1. I've never tried a PEF, 
>but I doubt that they're compatible. You want DNG anyway. It's a more 
>standard file type.

What Paul said.
 
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[P.J. Alling]

The only reason to use PEF format is if you're shooting a *ist-D since 
it doesn't support DNG or you need to save space, as early 
implementations on Pentax cameras produced DNGs 130% to 200% the size of 
a PEF file.  That hasn't been an issue for quite some time.


On 11/18/2016 2:06 PM, jtainter wrote:

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

Joe






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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[Paul Stenquist]

Shoot DNG. No reason not to. I have PS6 and a K-1. I've never tried a PEF, but 
I doubt that they're compatible. You want DNG anyway. It's a more standard file 
type.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 2:06 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
> CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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Re: K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[John]

According to Adobe's web site:

K-1 DNG & PEF are supported by Adobe Camera Raw 9.5.1 or later.

ACR for Photoshop CS6 will not be updated beyond 9.1.1.

I'm still using Photoshop CS6 Extended with the default Camera Raw
plugin (7.0) and have had no problems with Pentax K-1 DNG files.

I switched to DNG with the K20D and have used them for the K-3 & K-1, as
well as going back and setting the K10D to DNG.

If you don't want to use DNG as your raw format, the latest stand alone
DNG converter might work for you.


On 11/18/2016 2:06 PM, jtainter wrote:

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if
Photoshop CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I
shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

Joe





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K-1 and Photoshop CS6

[jtainter]

I am expecting my K-1 to arrive later today. Can someone tell me if Photoshop 
CS6 will recognize PEF files from the K-1? Or should I shoot in DNG format?

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: Photoshop CS6 dilemna

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Godfrey! Will do.

Paul via phone

> On Apr 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> Both Apple and Adobe have been tightening the security of late. Doing an 
> install from the Time Machine backup sometimes works but sometimes doesn't. 
> It's a permissions problem. I had a problem trying to install Lightroom 6 
> (perpetual) too. This is what I did to solve it: 
> 
> 1- Go to Adobe and download a copy of the current perpetual license installer 
> for PS CS6. You should be able to find this at 
> https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/cs6-product-downloads.html.
> 
> 2- Boot your system on an account that includes administrator privileges. (I 
> always maintain an administrator account separate from my user account. If 
> your 'user' account you has administrator privileges, skip to step 8.) 
> 
> 3- Using System Preferences, choose the accounts tool.
> 
> 4- Authenticate using the lock icon.
> 
> 5- Select your user account. 
> 
> 6- Click "Allow user to administer this computer" so that it is checked. 
> 
> 7- Restart the system and login with that account.
> 
> 8- Have your Adobe Photoshop CS6 user code handy.
> 
> 9- Run the Photoshop CS6 Installer and let it install Photoshop. 
> 
> 10- Start PSCS6, follow the steps, and enter your user code to verify the 
> license.
> 
> 11- If you had to set your account to "allow user to administer this 
> computer", reverse that with System Preferences and restart.
> 
> At Step 9, you might not be allowed to run Photoshop with a notice that 
> you've exhausted your license installation limits. That means that you should 
> have deactivated Photoshop before needing to wipe the drive and reinstall. 
> The only way to solve that is to start a chat with Adobe support and have 
> them reset your activation properly. 
> 
> Good luck! 
> 
> G
> 
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been running PS CS6 on my desktop and laptop for a few years. No 
>> problems. My laptop is a Mac Pro without a DVD drive. I installed PS 6 from  
>> a time machine backup once before and Adobe just requested the serial 
>> number. Easy. Today I had to do a clean install of the OS on the laptop and 
>> when I tried to install PS 6 from the Time Machine backup it wouldn’t let 
>> me. Adobe gave me an Error 16 and said to contact tech support. When I went 
>> to tech support I got a bunch of BS about different levels of support 
>> available but no clear way to ask a question. Digging further I got nothing 
>> but ads to buy the Cloud versions. Am I screwed? Might I be able to install 
>> it from an external DVD drive using the original disks?
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: Photoshop CS6 dilemna

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Paul, 

Both Apple and Adobe have been tightening the security of late. Doing an 
install from the Time Machine backup sometimes works but sometimes doesn't. 
It's a permissions problem. I had a problem trying to install Lightroom 6 
(perpetual) too. This is what I did to solve it: 

1- Go to Adobe and download a copy of the current perpetual license installer 
for PS CS6. You should be able to find this at 
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/cs6-product-downloads.html.

2- Boot your system on an account that includes administrator privileges. (I 
always maintain an administrator account separate from my user account. If your 
'user' account you has administrator privileges, skip to step 8.) 

3- Using System Preferences, choose the accounts tool.

4- Authenticate using the lock icon.

5- Select your user account. 

6- Click "Allow user to administer this computer" so that it is checked. 

7- Restart the system and login with that account.

8- Have your Adobe Photoshop CS6 user code handy.

9- Run the Photoshop CS6 Installer and let it install Photoshop. 

10- Start PSCS6, follow the steps, and enter your user code to verify the 
license.

11- If you had to set your account to "allow user to administer this computer", 
reverse that with System Preferences and restart.

At Step 9, you might not be allowed to run Photoshop with a notice that you've 
exhausted your license installation limits. That means that you should have 
deactivated Photoshop before needing to wipe the drive and reinstall. The only 
way to solve that is to start a chat with Adobe support and have them reset 
your activation properly. 

Good luck! 

G


> On Apr 15, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I’ve been running PS CS6 on my desktop and laptop for a few years. No 
> problems. My laptop is a Mac Pro without a DVD drive. I installed PS 6 from  
> a time machine backup once before and Adobe just requested the serial number. 
> Easy. Today I had to do a clean install of the OS on the laptop and when I 
> tried to install PS 6 from the Time Machine backup it wouldn’t let me. Adobe 
> gave me an Error 16 and said to contact tech support. When I went to tech 
> support I got a bunch of BS about different levels of support available but 
> no clear way to ask a question. Digging further I got nothing but ads to buy 
> the Cloud versions. Am I screwed? Might I be able to install it from an 
> external DVD drive using the original disks?
> 
> Paul


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