Re: K-1 vs K-1 Mark II

[lrc]

I think the differences are pretty subtle. As I understand it the mk ii had 
lower noise at higher iso by doing some processing on the raw that reduces 
detail.
It's supposed to have better focusing with longer lenses. 

I think that the differences only matter in specific use cases 

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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

[Steve Cottrell]

If I had the buying power, I would definitely have one!

Cotty

On 22 Apr 2023, at 01:37, Bill  wrote:

The Matte Black Edition is the same camera as the K3III monochrome with a
cosmetic change. The regular K3III mono will apparently go on sale very
soon, but it seems a lot of people want to spring for the blacked out
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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

[Bill]

The Matte Black Edition is the same camera as the K3III monochrome with a
cosmetic change. The regular K3III mono will apparently go on sale very
soon, but it seems a lot of people want to spring for the blacked out
camera.

bill

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:23 AM Mark Roberts 
wrote:

> From my days as a components engineer at an electronics firm, I would be
> very surprised if the minimum order for a specialized item like this sensor
> wasn't at least 1000 units.
>
> Apr 21, 2023 10:35:47 AM Ralf R Radermacher :
>
> > Am 21.04.23 um 15:28 schrieb mike wilson:
> >> I wonder how big a "run" is.  Not into triple figures, I would guess.
> >
> > Could this be the ‘workshop-like’ approach to production that they
> > announced in January of last year?
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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

[Mark Roberts]

From my days as a components engineer at an electronics firm, I would be very 
surprised if the minimum order for a specialized item like this sensor wasn't 
at least 1000 units.

Apr 21, 2023 10:35:47 AM Ralf R Radermacher :

> Am 21.04.23 um 15:28 schrieb mike wilson:
>> I wonder how big a "run" is.  Not into triple figures, I would guess.
> 
> Could this be the ‘workshop-like’ approach to production that they
> announced in January of last year?
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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

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Am 21.04.23 um 15:28 schrieb mike wilson:

I wonder how big a "run" is.  Not into triple figures, I would guess.


Could this be the ‘workshop-like’ approach to production that they
announced in January of last year?

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Re: Pentax K3 Mark III Monochrome Matte Black Edition

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I wonder how big a "run" is.  Not into triple figures, I would guess.

> On 21/04/2023 14:16 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> Apparently they started taking pre orders for the second run of the new
> Monochrome camera earlier today for deliveries in late May.
> It sold out in a couple of hours, so if you want one and didn't get an
> order in, the next batch is slated for sometime in the summer.
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Apparently they started taking pre orders for the second run of the new
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It sold out in a couple of hours, so if you want one and didn't get an
order in, the next batch is slated for sometime in the summer.

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Re: New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

[Alan C]

Could it be used to nab streakers at cricket matches then?

Alan C

On 08-Mar-22 05:32 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

You can’t take GPS out of the equation because the built-in inclinometers
(at the same angle) will be looking at a different part of the sky -
depending upon your latitude.

It could take a test shot, look at the streaks and figure what it would need to 
do to correct for motions based on that.



On Sunday, March 6, 2022, Bill  wrote:


The K1 and K1ii firmware is adding the Satobi jpeg preset. I don't think
there were any other changes made to the K1.

I presume the astro tracer with no GPS is sort of shake reduction working
in really motion.

bill

On Sun., Mar. 6, 2022, 2:03 p.m. Henk Terhell, 
wrote:


There are also firmware updates for the K-1 and K-1 II

Henk

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https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-

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Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to

calculate

needed tracking, and then exposes with tracking on.

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Re: New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> You can’t take GPS out of the equation because the built-in inclinometers
> (at the same angle) will be looking at a different part of the sky -
> depending upon your latitude.

It could take a test shot, look at the streaks and figure what it would need to 
do to correct for motions based on that.


> 
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> The K1 and K1ii firmware is adding the Satobi jpeg preset. I don't think
>> there were any other changes made to the K1.
>> 
>> I presume the astro tracer with no GPS is sort of shake reduction working
>> in really motion.
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> On Sun., Mar. 6, 2022, 2:03 p.m. Henk Terhell, 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are also firmware updates for the K-1 and K-1 II
>>> 
>>> Henk
>>> 
>>> Op zo 6 mrt. 2022 om 17:18 schreef Corey Leopold :
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-
>> update-improves-astro-photos-without-gps/
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to
>> calculate
>>>> needed tracking, and then exposes with tracking on.
>>>> 
>>>> Corey
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Re: New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

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You can’t take GPS out of the equation because the built-in inclinometers
(at the same angle) will be looking at a different part of the sky -
depending upon your latitude.

On Sunday, March 6, 2022, Bill  wrote:

> The K1 and K1ii firmware is adding the Satobi jpeg preset. I don't think
> there were any other changes made to the K1.
>
> I presume the astro tracer with no GPS is sort of shake reduction working
> in really motion.
>
> bill
>
> On Sun., Mar. 6, 2022, 2:03 p.m. Henk Terhell, 
> wrote:
>
> > There are also firmware updates for the K-1 and K-1 II
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > Op zo 6 mrt. 2022 om 17:18 schreef Corey Leopold :
> >
> > >
> > >
> > https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-
> update-improves-astro-photos-without-gps/
> > >
> > > Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to
> calculate
> > > needed tracking, and then exposes with tracking on.
> > >
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Re: New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

[Bill]

The K1 and K1ii firmware is adding the Satobi jpeg preset. I don't think
there were any other changes made to the K1.

I presume the astro tracer with no GPS is sort of shake reduction working
in really motion.

bill

On Sun., Mar. 6, 2022, 2:03 p.m. Henk Terhell, 
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> There are also firmware updates for the K-1 and K-1 II
>
> Henk
>
> Op zo 6 mrt. 2022 om 17:18 schreef Corey Leopold :
>
> >
> >
> https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-update-improves-astro-photos-without-gps/
> >
> > Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to calculate
> > needed tracking, and then exposes with tracking on.
> >
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Re: New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

[Henk Terhell]

There are also firmware updates for the K-1 and K-1 II

Henk

Op zo 6 mrt. 2022 om 17:18 schreef Corey Leopold :

>
> https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-update-improves-astro-photos-without-gps/
>
> Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to calculate
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>
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New Pentax K-3 Mark III Update Improves Astro Photos Without GPS

[Corey Leopold]

https://petapixel.com/2022/03/04/new-pentax-k3-mark-iii-update-improves-astro-photos-without-gps/

Looks like it takes a pre-shot that looks at the star trails to calculate
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Re: YT video on Mark C.'s snowflakes book

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That is SO cool!

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Not juts yahoo lately John but i have some others, maybe folks doing the
same using back up emails

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> >> Are you using a yahoo email to the pdml now, google spam does not like
> it
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I use Yahoo mail as a backup when my primary email accounts are acting up.

Gmail marking all Yahoo mail as SPAM has been an ongoing problem for 
years, but it has apparently flared up AGAIN recently.


The problem appears to be Google does NOT play well with others.

On 1/1/2022 2:10 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

actually several pdml members emails are now showing up in spam folder

Dave

On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 1:40 PM David J Brooks  wrote:


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Dave

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Re: K3 Mark III

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On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:02 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

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>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Corey Leopold  wrote:
> >
> > So I just ordered one, with a free battery grip, had been thinking for a
> > while about pulling the trigger and upgrading from my now pretty old K5,
> > and saw that they had early Black Friday specials going on with the free
> > grip and couldn't resist.
>
> Congrats.  I’m envious.  Is yours the first 3-iii on the list?
>
> >
> > I know an articulated screen is one of the "missing" features I'm sure I
> > can make do without it, but I noticed that in theory one can see the live
> > view and trigger the shutter from the image sync app on their phone,
> seems
> > like that could solve 90% of the use cases an articulated screen does
> > without the added physical complexity on the camera.
>
> I find that the articulated screen on my K-1 is nice, but there haven’t
> been many situations (I can’t think of any off hand) where I could not have
> gotten by with just the live view.  It just makes it a little bit more
> comfortable, but it’s not as big of a difference as live view or not.
>

Where I have been using live view most recently is with a 10x neutral
density filter.  It is near impossible to see through it in the viewfinder,
and I find it under meters by 3 or 4 stops.  But with live view it can see
through and the metering is fine.  Only issue then is the LCD screen isnt'
so bright and can be hard to see in bright sunlight where I'm most likely
to use such a filter.  So I kind of hope the k3 LCD is brighter, or lacking
that use the sync app to see live view.

Corey


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Re: K3 Mark III

[Larry Colen]

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Corey Leopold  wrote:
> 
> So I just ordered one, with a free battery grip, had been thinking for a
> while about pulling the trigger and upgrading from my now pretty old K5,
> and saw that they had early Black Friday specials going on with the free
> grip and couldn't resist.

Congrats.  I’m envious.  Is yours the first 3-iii on the list?

> 
> I know an articulated screen is one of the "missing" features I'm sure I
> can make do without it, but I noticed that in theory one can see the live
> view and trigger the shutter from the image sync app on their phone, seems
> like that could solve 90% of the use cases an articulated screen does
> without the added physical complexity on the camera.

I find that the articulated screen on my K-1 is nice, but there haven’t been 
many situations (I can’t think of any off hand) where I could not have gotten 
by with just the live view.  It just makes it a little bit more comfortable, 
but it’s not as big of a difference as live view or not.



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K3 Mark III

[Corey Leopold]

So I just ordered one, with a free battery grip, had been thinking for a
while about pulling the trigger and upgrading from my now pretty old K5,
and saw that they had early Black Friday specials going on with the free
grip and couldn't resist.

I know an articulated screen is one of the "missing" features I'm sure I
can make do without it, but I noticed that in theory one can see the live
view and trigger the shutter from the image sync app on their phone, seems
like that could solve 90% of the use cases an articulated screen does
without the added physical complexity on the camera.

Corey

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The K-3 mark 3 is for the mountain climbers amongst us

[Henk Terhell]

Here a spectacular new video of a French Ricoh Pentax ambassador:
https://youtu.be/jyWGnQ9jwo4
(English undertitled)

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K-3 Mark III delayed (again)

[Jaume Lahuerta]

https://www.dpreview.com/news/6854498601/ricoh-announces-its-pentax-k-3-mark-iii-aps-c-dslr-has-been-delayed

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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

[Paul Stenquist]

Good to hear. I haven’t really been paying much attention. I’m not in a camera 
buying position. My next will probably be a K-1 iii.

Paul

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> For birding it will need a viewfinder as bright as that of the K-1.
> 
> Isn’t that pretty much the big feature of it?  They put all that time, money 
> and effort into a big bright new viewfinder, which is why it doesn’t have 
> room for gps.
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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

[Bill]

On Sat., Nov. 14, 2020, 1:34 p.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:

>
>
> > On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> >
> > For those interested:
> >
> >
> https://photorumors.com/2020/11/13/new-pictures-of-the-pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera/
>
> Those idiots swapped the location of the green button and the review
> button between the K-3-3 and the K1
>
> It looks like they have a focus position joy-clit which bodes well for
> number of focus points
>

A joy-clit bodes well for a lot of different things.

Har!!

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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> For birding it will need a viewfinder as bright as that of the K-1.

Isn’t that pretty much the big feature of it?  They put all that time, money 
and effort into a big bright new viewfinder, which is why it doesn’t have room 
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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

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For birding it will need a viewfinder as bright as that of the K-1.

Paul

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>> 
>> On the K-5 the review button is on the left which always confuses me 
>> switching with the K-1.
>> 
>> Anyway, no GPS is visible so no astrotracer for you, Larry.
> 
> As long as I have astrotracer in the K-1, I don’t *need* it in any other 
> bodies, assuming of course the K-1 doesn’t crap out again.  
> The K-1 is my wide angle and low light body, though it would be interesting 
> to see how the 3-3 compares in low light performance at the same angle of 
> view, with available lenses. Unless something radically changes in my life in 
> the near future, I’m afraid the comparisons between the two will remain 
> purely hypothetical on my part.
> My guess is that the new 3-3 will be the best Pentax available for birding 
> and/or sports.  I sincerely hope they learned the lesson of the K-1 lack of 
> buffer and low bus speed and brought the new camera’s performance into the 
> 21st century.
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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> On the K-5 the review button is on the left which always confuses me 
> switching with the K-1.
> 
> Anyway, no GPS is visible so no astrotracer for you, Larry.

As long as I have astrotracer in the K-1, I don’t *need* it in any other 
bodies, assuming of course the K-1 doesn’t crap out again.  
The K-1 is my wide angle and low light body, though it would be interesting to 
see how the 3-3 compares in low light performance at the same angle of view, 
with available lenses. Unless something radically changes in my life in the 
near future, I’m afraid the comparisons between the two will remain purely 
hypothetical on my part.
My guess is that the new 3-3 will be the best Pentax available for birding 
and/or sports.  I sincerely hope they learned the lesson of the K-1 lack of 
buffer and low bus speed and brought the new camera’s performance into the 21st 
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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

[Henk Terhell]

On the K-5 the review button is on the left which always confuses me 
switching with the K-1.


Anyway, no GPS is visible so no astrotracer for you, Larry.

Henk

Op 2020-11-14 om 20:33 schreef Larry Colen:



On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

For those interested:

https://photorumors.com/2020/11/13/new-pictures-of-the-pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera/

Those idiots swapped the location of the green button and the review button 
between the K-3-3 and the K1

It looks like they have a focus position joy-clit which bodes well for number 
of focus points


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Re: New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> For those interested:
> 
> https://photorumors.com/2020/11/13/new-pictures-of-the-pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera/

Those idiots swapped the location of the green button and the review button 
between the K-3-3 and the K1

It looks like they have a focus position joy-clit which bodes well for number 
of focus points

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New pictures of the Pentax K-3 Mark III flagship APS-C DSLR camera

[Henk Terhell]

For those interested:

https://photorumors.com/2020/11/13/new-pictures-of-the-pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera/

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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Jan van Wijk]

Late to the party, but anyway ;-)

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:15:37 +0100 Henk Terhell wrote:
>
>12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.
>But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

GPS and flip-screen are both nice-to-have for me, since I will mostly be using 
the camera
alongside my trusty K1, which is the onoy 'real' and more or less up to date 
cam I have now
after passing my K3 on to my son.

And since I plan to go on a two-week safari next year (october, Botswana) 
this will be a perfect backup-cam as well as long-lens rig (with the 150-450)

I hope AF speed and reliability have improved significantly ;-)

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Re: New K3 Mark III

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 08:56:16AM -0400, Rick Womer wrote:
> I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. 
> Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing 
> fireflies, I don???t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.
> 
> Rick

It all depends on what you want to use the camera for. For me, AF is important.
I'm sure it's going to have better AF than a K-5; the question is how much 
better.

A year ago (was it really that long ago? How time flies!) I took a trip to
Austin to watch the inaugural Indycar race at Circuit of the Americas.
I never like relying on just a single body on a trip (and having two bodies
means you can have two different focal lengths ready at all times), so for
this trip I borrowed Larry's K-3 to go along with my K-5.  After reviewing
the first day's shooting it was apparent that The K-3 was doing a better
job of focus tracking - with comparable shots with the same lens mounted I
had noticeably more out-of-focus shots with the K-5 than with the K-3.
There was still room for improvement; I'm waiting for reports on just how
much better the K3-III is before deciding whether I'm tempted (although
the alternative I'm considering - going lightweight with an OM-D system -
is less attractive now in the light of the Olympus name getting dropped).

Other things that interest me are the 12fps continuous shooting frame rate
(with a 32 frame buffer), dual memory card slots, and wireless/bluetooth.
I personally don't care about video, so the limitation of 4K to 30 fps
isn't a problem for me, but I can see it would be a problem for others.



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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Alan C]

So there you have it then. Buy a K1ii & be done with it. All requests 
answered.


Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 10:21 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
Some people estimate the cost of K-3III may initially be more than $ 
1900 (over 200 K yen in Japan).
Adding a GPS-module of € 250 brings the cost above that of the K-1 II 
which has GPS, astro-tracer (and flippy screen).

The K-1 II is sold for around  € 1850 in Europe and $ 1800 in US.

 Henk

Op 2020-10-28 om 04:49 schreef Alan C:

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support 
Astrotracing, just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I 
said before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure 
eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made 
when designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, 
sometimes those choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left 
on the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in 
Astrotracer. Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to 
buy one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes 
illuminated by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling 
advantage over my K-5.


Rick

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  
wrote:


12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS 
which is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Henk Terhell]

Some people estimate the cost of K-3III may initially be more than $ 
1900 (over 200 K yen in Japan).
Adding a GPS-module of € 250 brings the cost above that of the K-1 II 
which has GPS, astro-tracer (and flippy screen).

The K-1 II is sold for around  € 1850 in Europe and $ 1800 in US.

 Henk

Op 2020-10-28 om 04:49 schreef Alan C:

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support 
Astrotracing, just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure 
eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes 
those choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to 
buy one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes 
illuminated by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling 
advantage over my K-5.


Rick

On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  
wrote:


12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk










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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Alan C]

Indeed it is. Works very well on my K5.

https://www.ricoh-imaging.eu/eu_en/gps-unit-o-gps1

Alan C

On 28-Oct-20 12:38 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed 
at B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support Astrotracing, 
just not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as 
possible and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in 
the Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes those 
choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems 
to be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my 
problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated 
by passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk







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Re: New K3 Mark III

[P. J. Alling]

Isn't the stand alone GPS module still available?  It's still listed at 
B Photo as new so the K-3 III probably will support Astrotracing, just 
not with a built in GPS.


That doesn't do anything about the lack of a flippy screen, as I said 
before, Ricoh probably want's the K-3 series to be as rugged as possible 
and the flippy screen is a possible point of failure eliminated.


If you cannot do without it, then there are other options with it in the 
Pentax line, if none of those are acceptable to you...


Life is full of disappointments and hard choices have to be made when 
designing a camera, especially to a competitive price, sometimes those 
choices will go against what you want.


I have to go without an aperture simulator, which on the whole seems to 
be much easier to implement than a flippy screen, but that's my problem.


On 10/27/2020 10:22 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by 
passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which 
is in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Henk Terhell]

Nothing is mentioned about Astrotracer in the specs.

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 14:19 schreef Alan C:
Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on 
the K5.


On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. 
Has this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy 
one. Apart from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by 
passing fireflies, I don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.


Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is 
in K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk




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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 27.10.20 um 10:15 schrieb Henk Terhell:


Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.


Just received the official German announcement.

I might have been tempted to replace my K3 Mk nought. But without GPS
I'd rather not.

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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Alan C]

Hear, hear!   And, besides, I still have over 50 000 clicks left on the K5.

On the Mk ii, the GPS was associated with the built-in Astrotracer. Has 
this feature been removed from the Mk iii ?


Alan C

On 27-Oct-20 02:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. Apart 
from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing fireflies, I 
don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.

Rick


On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 II.
But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube:https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:

Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
link...

https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/  


-p

On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170  


Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Rick Womer]

I agree, Henk. GPS and a flippy screen would have induced me to buy one. Apart 
from a high enough ISO to shoot landscapes illuminated by passing fireflies, I 
don’t see a compelling advantage over my K-5.

Rick

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> 12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in K-3 
> II.
> But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.
> 
> On YouTube: https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:
>> Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
>> link...
>> 
>> https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/
>>  
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...
>>> 
>>> https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thought I'd pass it on.
>>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>> 
>>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Henk Terhell]

12 FPS, 26 MP, 4K and touch screen (of course). Missing GPS which is in 
K-3 II.

But I cannot do without a flippy screen, so this is not for me.

On YouTube: https://youtu.be/vDO0esYahRw

Henk

Op 2020-10-27 om 06:52 schreef Paul Sorenson:
Hmmm. Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's 
another link...


https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/ 



-p

On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170 



Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

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Re: New K3 Mark III

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Yeah their SSL certificate (issued for "*.ricoh.co.jp") doesn't match the 
domain name in the link (ricoh-imaging.co.jp).  Most likely an innocent 
mistake...

Cheers,
Dave

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm.  Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's another 
> link...
> 
> https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/
> 
> -p
> 
> On 10/26/2020 8:47 PM, Pete McIntosh wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...
>> 
>> https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170
>>  
>> 
>> Thought I'd pass it on.
>> 
>> Ciao,
>> 
>> Pete Mac in Melbourne
>> 
>> 
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Re: New K3 Mark III

[Paul Sorenson]

Hmmm.  Firefox flags that link as a potential security risk. Here's 
another link...


https://photorumors.com/2020/10/26/pentax-k-3-mark-iii-flagship-aps-c-dslr-camera-officially-announced/

-p

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Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170 



Thought I'd pass it on.

Ciao,

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Hi guys,

This just popped up on Pentax Australia's Instagram page...

https://news.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/rim_info2/2020/20201027_029570.html?_ga=2.113232580.1542500155.1603762196-2097101700.1597725170

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[ann sanfedele]

Wondering if my recent email to you with a question in it was rejected 
by your server... not like you not to respond -

so seeing if bouncing through the list gets there

glad the book changed your life  - hehe

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Re: Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[Bob Pdml]

Excellent- glad you found some more examples.


> On 9 Feb 2020, at 20:52, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Mystery solved..
> 
> This email did get though to me... and helped a lot..
> 
> Found other Victor Mayer items that match the mark on ours. Over time, some 
> maker marks evolve.
> 
> thanks much!
> 
> a
> 
>> On 2/8/2020 3:09 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> I found this:
>> 
>> https://www.globalgemology.com/v.html
>> 
>> "  VICTOR MAYER
>> 
>> Hallmark(s):  "MV" inside a hexagonal cartouche
>> Information:  Founded in 1890 by German designer, Victor Mayer.  Most known 
>> for his ornate, Fabergé jewelry.  "
>> 
>> The mark looks similar. Your's has 750 stamped on it, which means 18 carat, 
>> whereas the example specifies 18ct, but who knows - might be worth asking a 
>> professional for an opinion.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>>>> On 06 February 2020 at 21:27 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I
>>>>> can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being
>>>>> what it is :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, guys!
>>>>> 
>>>>> ann

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Re: Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[ann sanfedele]

Mystery solved..

This email did get though to me... and helped a lot..

Found other Victor Mayer items that match the mark on ours. Over time, 
some maker marks evolve.


thanks much!

a

On 2/8/2020 3:09 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:

I found this:

https://www.globalgemology.com/v.html

"  VICTOR MAYER

Hallmark(s):  "MV" inside a hexagonal cartouche
Information:  Founded in 1890 by German designer, Victor Mayer.  Most known for his 
ornate, Fabergé jewelry.  "

The mark looks similar. Your's has 750 stamped on it, which means 18 carat, 
whereas the example specifies 18ct, but who knows - might be worth asking a 
professional for an opinion.

Good luck!

B


On 7 Feb 2020, at 04:07, ann sanfedele  wrote:

thanks, mike -- I hope it is a designers mark
ann


On 2/6/2020 5:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:
UK hallmarks are leopard, anchor, rose and castle.  London, Birmingham, 
Sheffield and Edinburgh respectively.  Most likely to be a maker's mark but I 
don't know who.

This might be of use:
"Articles which are assayed and found by the qualifying office of a signatory country to 
conform to the standard, receive a mark, known as the Common Control Mark (CCM), attesting to the 
material's fineness. The multi-tiered motif of the CCM is the balance scales, superimposed, for 
gold, on two intersecting circles; for platinum, a diamond shape and for silver a mark in the shape 
of the Latin letter "M"."



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Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I
can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being
what it is :-)

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A


Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.

Thanks, guys!

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Re: Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[Bob Pdml]

I found this:

https://www.globalgemology.com/v.html

"  VICTOR MAYER

Hallmark(s):  "MV" inside a hexagonal cartouche
Information:  Founded in 1890 by German designer, Victor Mayer.  Most known for 
his ornate, Fabergé jewelry.  "

The mark looks similar. Your's has 750 stamped on it, which means 18 carat, 
whereas the example specifies 18ct, but who knows - might be worth asking a 
professional for an opinion.

Good luck!

B

> On 7 Feb 2020, at 04:07, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> thanks, mike -- I hope it is a designers mark
> ann
> 
>> On 2/6/2020 5:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>> UK hallmarks are leopard, anchor, rose and castle.  London, Birmingham, 
>> Sheffield and Edinburgh respectively.  Most likely to be a maker's mark but 
>> I don't know who.
>> 
>> This might be of use:
>> "Articles which are assayed and found by the qualifying office of a 
>> signatory country to conform to the standard, receive a mark, known as the 
>> Common Control Mark (CCM), attesting to the material's fineness. The 
>> multi-tiered motif of the CCM is the balance scales, superimposed, for gold, 
>> on two intersecting circles; for platinum, a diamond shape and for silver a 
>> mark in the shape of the Latin letter "M"."
>> 
>> 
>>> On 06 February 2020 at 21:27 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I
>>> can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being
>>> what it is :-)
>>> 
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, guys!
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
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Re: Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[ann sanfedele]

thanks, mike -- I hope it is a designers mark
ann

On 2/6/2020 5:30 PM, mike wilson wrote:

UK hallmarks are leopard, anchor, rose and castle.  London, Birmingham, 
Sheffield and Edinburgh respectively.  Most likely to be a maker's mark but I 
don't know who.

This might be of use:
"Articles which are assayed and found by the qualifying office of a signatory country to 
conform to the standard, receive a mark, known as the Common Control Mark (CCM), attesting to the 
material's fineness. The multi-tiered motif of the CCM is the balance scales, superimposed, for 
gold, on two intersecting circles; for platinum, a diamond shape and for silver a mark in the shape 
of the Latin letter "M"."



On 06 February 2020 at 21:27 ann sanfedele  wrote:


Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I
can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being
what it is :-)

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A


Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.

Thanks, guys!

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Re: Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[mike wilson]

UK hallmarks are leopard, anchor, rose and castle.  London, Birmingham, 
Sheffield and Edinburgh respectively.  Most likely to be a maker's mark but I 
don't know who.

This might be of use:
"Articles which are assayed and found by the qualifying office of a signatory 
country to conform to the standard, receive a mark, known as the Common Control 
Mark (CCM), attesting to the material's fineness. The multi-tiered motif of the 
CCM is the balance scales, superimposed, for gold, on two intersecting circles; 
for platinum, a diamond shape and for silver a mark in the shape of the Latin 
letter "M"."


> On 06 February 2020 at 21:27 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I 
> can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being 
> what it is :-)
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A
> 
> 
> Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.
> 
> Thanks, guys!
> 
> ann
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Peso - ID help needed - European jewelry mark

[ann sanfedele]

Hope one or more of you across the big pond can help id this mark so I 
can list the item on ebay ..  the collective wisdom of this list being 
what it is :-)


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Things-Im-selling-directly-Not/i-9p7QHJr/A


Yes, I do know 750 = 18k  - it is the mark to the right I need help with.

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Thank you Mark and Y'all! (Was: Re: Sorry about my absence)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Mark, for all the hard work, energy and passion you put in
those books in all 10 years!

Also, thanks to the editorial board members, Bill and Scott, at some early 
point, and to Doug for his warm and cuddly forewords with his kind humor!


And kudos to all who contributed their photos over all these years, you, 
fellow PDMLers! I've enjoyed seeing your photos all these years.


Amen!

Igor,
The procrastinator


On Jan 14, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Postmaster wrote:


I've been unusually busy for a while (nothing bad) so I've been off
line more than usual and I've decided I can't do the Photo Annual this
year. Participation and, more critically, sales, has been declining
for some time and I can't really justify the time and money.
Especially the money - I've been making up the major part of "the
book's" annual donation myself for quite a few years now (though I
greatly appreciate the contributions of those who've extra donations
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I think the 10-year run was pretty damn good, though.

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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Bill. Good info.


> On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:42 AM, William Robb  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:03 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill
>> have done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in
>> performance over the original? Any downside other than price?
> 
> 
> I didn’t bother as the upgrade wasn’t giving me anything I especially care
> about. The brouhaha about the noise reduction is, IMHO, an overreaction.
> The very thorough test that Pentax Forums did showed that noise was
> reduced, detail wasn’t. The test that DPR did showed the opposite, but DPR
> has a long history of not being able to run a test without fucking
> something up.
> If you do a lot of shooting at higher ISOs the upgrade would be a good
> thing.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:03 AM Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill
> have done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in
> performance over the original? Any downside other than price?


I didn’t bother as the upgrade wasn’t giving me anything I especially care
about. The brouhaha about the noise reduction is, IMHO, an overreaction.
The very thorough test that Pentax Forums did showed that noise was
reduced, detail wasn’t. The test that DPR did showed the opposite, but DPR
has a long history of not being able to run a test without fucking
something up.
If you do a lot of shooting at higher ISOs the upgrade would be a good
thing.

Bill



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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[P. J. Alling]

Hey, I just posted a lengthy reply to Larry's question on K10D vs K20D 
vs K100D image quality, which I hope is informative.  So there is some 
Pentax content.


On 10/25/2018 11:32 PM, John wrote:

Oooh! Harsh!  8^)

On 10/25/2018 13:45, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Tough to get any Pentax info here. Leica, yes. Pentax, no.


On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, John  wrote:

On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and 
Bill

have done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in
performance over the original? Any downside other than price? Paul


I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it
getting close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?

I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to 
evaluate
the upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence 
about
it will still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good 
deal.








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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[John]

Oooh! Harsh!  8^)

On 10/25/2018 13:45, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Tough to get any Pentax info here. Leica, yes. Pentax, no.


On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, John  wrote:

On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill
have done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in
performance over the original? Any downside other than price? Paul


I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it
getting close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?

I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to evaluate
the upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence about
it will still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good deal.





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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

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Pentax Don't Make Leicas...?

> On 25 Oct 2018, at 19:47, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Photography Discussion Mainly Leica ?  
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" 
> Subject: Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?
> 
> 
>> Tough to get any Pentax info here. Leica, yes. Pentax, no.
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, John  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>> Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill 
>>>> have
>>>> done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance
>>>> over the original? Any downside other than price?
>>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it 
>>> getting close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?
>>> 
>>> I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to evaluate 
>>> the upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence about 
>>> it will still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good deal.
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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Joe. I too shoot a lot of high ISO, particularly when shooting wildlife 
or sports. I will probably pass.

Paul

> On Oct 25, 2018, at 4:20 PM, jtainter  wrote:
> 
> Paul, the main controversy concerns the fact that Pentax added unavoidable, 
> baked in noise reduction, apparently kicking in at ISO 640. It cannot be 
> turned off. Some people are bothered by the resulting images being softened a 
> little, some people are bothered by it in principal, some people don't mind 
> it, and some people don't notice it. I avoided the Mark II upgrade largely 
> because of this. I shoot a lot at higher ISO settings. Dpreview dinged Pentax 
> for it, but the camera got a better review at Pentax Forums.
> 
> Some people report better AF.
> 
> Another reason why I avoided it is because I would have had to recalibrate 
> all my lenses for focus accuracy.
> 
> Joe
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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

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Paul, the main controversy concerns the fact that Pentax added unavoidable, 
baked in noise reduction, apparently kicking in at ISO 640. It cannot be turned 
off. Some people are bothered by the resulting images being softened a little, 
some people are bothered by it in principal, some people don't mind it, and 
some people don't notice it. I avoided the Mark II upgrade largely because of 
this. I shoot a lot at higher ISO settings. Dpreview dinged Pentax for it, but 
the camera got a better review at Pentax Forums.

Some people report better AF.

Another reason why I avoided it is because I would have had to recalibrate all 
my lenses for focus accuracy.

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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Paul Stenquist]

Battery life isn’t a factor for me. I always shoot with the grip installed and 
have never come close to depleting the batteries. I asked before about the 
resulting improvement but got no answer here. It may be too late for the 
upgrade now. Should have asked on Pentax Forum, but I hate navigating that 
site. I’ll call the provider, but still hope to hear from someone about any 
improvement in performance.
Paul

> On Oct 25, 2018, at 3:01 PM, postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
> 
> Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have 
>> done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance 
>> over the original? Any downside other than price?
> 
> I haven't done it. The improved features didn't seem to be worth the
> reduced battery life, at least not for the shoting I do.
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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

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Paul Stenquist  wrote:

>Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have 
>done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance 
>over the original? Any downside other than price?

I haven't done it. The improved features didn't seem to be worth the
reduced battery life, at least not for the shoting I do.

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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

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On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 8:44 PM John  wrote:
>
> On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have
> > done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance
> > over the original? Any downside other than price?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it 
> getting
> close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?
>
> I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to evaluate the
> upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence about it will
> still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good deal.

The period ended last month; but check for an extension if you want to
do the upgrade.
Around here (Europe, the upgrade done by the Hamburg service) I was
told that I had to register for the upgrade until the end of
September, but the upgrade itself will be done later - and they're
still waiting for another batch of K1 II mainboards.

Alex

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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Ken Waller]

Photography Discussion Mainly Leica ?  

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?



Tough to get any Pentax info here. Leica, yes. Pentax, no.


On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, John  wrote:

On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill 
have
done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in 
performance

over the original? Any downside other than price?
Paul


I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it 
getting close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?


I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to 
evaluate the upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the 
fence about it will still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be 
a good deal.


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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Paul Stenquist]

Tough to get any Pentax info here. Leica, yes. Pentax, no.

> On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:43 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have
>> done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance
>> over the original? Any downside other than price?
>> Paul
> 
> I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it 
> getting close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?
> 
> I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to evaluate 
> the upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence about it 
> will still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good deal.
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Re: K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[John]

On 10/25/2018 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have
done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance
over the original? Any downside other than price?

Paul



I was thinking about that just the other day (Monday in fact). Isn't it getting 
close to the end of the period Ricoh were offering the upgrade?


I hope someone who has had the upgrade done & has had a chance to evaluate the 
upgrade will share so that some of us who are still on the fence about it will 
still have time to send ours in if it turns out to be a good deal.


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K-1 Mark II Upgrade?

[Paul Stenquist]

Has anyone sent in a camera for the upgrade? I think both Stan and Bill have 
done so. How long did it take? Is there a marked improvement in performance 
over the original? Any downside other than price?

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Re: DxO Labs, spin off from DxO Mark in receivership.

[John]

FWIW, the download page is still functional. I'm getting ready to install 
PhotoshopCS 6 on my "new" laptop, so I thought I might as well see if I can 
download the collection to plugin to that.


The only one I ever really use is ColorEFEX Pro, but I guess as long as it's 
still available, it's better to have it than not. Anyway, the price is right.


On 4/28/2018 11:17, Bruce Walker wrote:

Being a Nik user is a curse, these days. Talk about on again, off again.

I started to wean myself off of Nik plugin dependencies when Google
announced end-of-life on it. I now have some diy Photoshop actions
that work for what I regularly used Nik for, and a handful of b
conversion techniques that do for me what Silver Efex used to. I still
use the RAW sharpener pre-pass, but I'll eventually work up a
replacement for that too.

But it sounds like the DxO receivership thing may not be the end of
the line. The company sent this note to one of their customers:

"In fact, the company has recently been placed under a regime of
judicial administration, the time to reorganize.

Although we can not comment on this situation, we can nevertheless
assure you that the company is absolutely not in liquidation and that
we are confident that our customers will not be affected by this
procedure."

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/23/dxo-labs-in-receivership-bankruptcy-case-opened-report/


On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 12:30 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

Which is bad news for me, since I'm using DxO Optics Pro to process RAW
files, though it's also bad for users of Nik collection, since they bought
the rights to them too.


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Re: DxO Labs, spin off from DxO Mark in receivership.

[Bruce Walker]

Being a Nik user is a curse, these days. Talk about on again, off again.

I started to wean myself off of Nik plugin dependencies when Google
announced end-of-life on it. I now have some diy Photoshop actions
that work for what I regularly used Nik for, and a handful of b
conversion techniques that do for me what Silver Efex used to. I still
use the RAW sharpener pre-pass, but I'll eventually work up a
replacement for that too.

But it sounds like the DxO receivership thing may not be the end of
the line. The company sent this note to one of their customers:

"In fact, the company has recently been placed under a regime of
judicial administration, the time to reorganize.

Although we can not comment on this situation, we can nevertheless
assure you that the company is absolutely not in liquidation and that
we are confident that our customers will not be affected by this
procedure."

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/23/dxo-labs-in-receivership-bankruptcy-case-opened-report/


On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 12:30 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Which is bad news for me, since I'm using DxO Optics Pro to process RAW
> files, though it's also bad for users of Nik collection, since they bought
> the rights to them too.
>
>
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DxO Labs, spin off from DxO Mark in receivership.

[P. J. Alling]

Which is bad news for me, since I'm using DxO Optics Pro to process RAW 
files, though it's also bad for users of Nik collection, since they 
bought the rights to them too.



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K1 Mark II official release

[Gonz]

https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/index.php/news/70-ricoh-announces-pentax-k-1-mark-ii


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Re: Mark Roberts

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:44 AM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
> > On 29/3/17, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >>Mark i'm sure you are busy with real work and paying projects but i
> >>sent you an off list email. Did you get it
> >
> > If he knows what's good for him, no he did not.
>
> If he's on this list he does not know whats good for him.LOL

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On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Steve Cottrell <co...@seeingeye.tv> wrote:
> On 29/3/17, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Mark i'm sure you are busy with real work and paying projects but i
>>sent you an off list email. Did you get it
>
> If he knows what's good for him, no he did not.

If he's on this list he does not know whats good for him.LOL

Dave
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On 29/3/17, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Mark i'm sure you are busy with real work and paying projects but i
>sent you an off list email. Did you get it

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Attn: Mark Roberts

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi Mark,

I've sent you a couple of e-mails yesterday (off the list).
I am not sure if they might have been blocked on your side (as it 
happened before) or something...


Please, respond off the list.

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RE: PESO: Mark

[Malcolm Smith]

David Mann wrote:

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1030/#peso
++

That would be the permanent marking here!

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Re: PESO: Mark

[Philip Northeast]

timing is everything in photography, well spotted.

Philip Northeast

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On 10/12/16 7:09 pm, David Mann wrote:

Just a phone pic while I was on the way to the pool this morning.

A road near my place has just been resurfaced and one of the crew sprayed some basic 
marks to show where the "proper" road markings go.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1030/#peso

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PESO: Mark

[David Mann]

Just a phone pic while I was on the way to the pool this morning.

A road near my place has just been resurfaced and one of the crew sprayed some 
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http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1030/#peso

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Re: Spotted Bush Kelpie (Mark)

[Ken Waller]

Nicely composed and captured.

-Original Message-
>From: Alan C <c...@lantic.net>
>Subject: Re: Spotted Bush Kelpie (Mark)
>
>Thanks, Mark. Giraffes are not mean at all, actually quite timid. Just for 
>you, here's the rest of the family group:
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27559971386/
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: Mark Stringer
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:44 PM
>To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>Subject: RE: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie
>
>Very nice.  I like giraffes and that is a good photo.  They may be as mean
>as camels but they look stately, gentle and contemplative.
>
>Stringer
>
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>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Alan C
>Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:25 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>Subject: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie
>
>Just for fun:
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27548285676/
>
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Re: Spotted Bush Kelpie (Mark)

[Jack Davis]

Nice shots and interesting info as to
their temperament, Alan!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2016, at 10:34 PM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Mark. Giraffes are not mean at all, actually quite timid. Just for 
> you, here's the rest of the family group:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27559971386/
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Mark Stringer
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:44 PM
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> Subject: RE: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie
> 
> Very nice.  I like giraffes and that is a good photo.  They may be as mean
> as camels but they look stately, gentle and contemplative.
> 
> Stringer
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:25 AM
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> Subject: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie
> 
> Just for fun:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27548285676/
> 
> Alan C
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Re: Spotted Bush Kelpie (Mark)

[Alan C]

Thanks, Mark. Giraffes are not mean at all, actually quite timid. Just for 
you, here's the rest of the family group:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27559971386/

Alan C

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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:44 PM
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Subject: RE: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie

Very nice.  I like giraffes and that is a good photo.  They may be as mean
as camels but they look stately, gentle and contemplative.

Stringer

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Subject: PESO: Spotted Bush Kelpie

Just for fun:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/27548285676/

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Re: no mas mark

[John]

If I were going to be transgender, I'd have to become Joan. But I'm not.

Straight, but not narrow, that's me ... "different strokes for different
folks" and all that.

For all the attention North Carolina's HB2 law has gotten for who gets
to use what bathroom, that's not the worst part of the law. There's
other parts of the law that haven't really gotten the attention it
deserves. Like closing off state courts to discrimination complaints
from everyone, regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual orientation,
national origin, age, religious affiliation ... it's Jim Crow on steroids.

There is one other John in my Tuesday night group. No Larrys ... no
Darrel or other brother Darrel. We've got a Donald (went by Don even
before "The Donald" burst upon the scene), two Richards (Rich & Doc); a
Cathy, a Kathy, a Kathryn & a Kathleen.

If any of them is LGBT, I don't know about it and care even less. Not my
bag.

On 5/15/2016 9:24 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

One might think we would have more Johns here, and I don't mean
bathrooms. It is the most common name. We have two Pauls. Sometimes I
read Paul said this, or Paul said that, and I have to think about
that. I hate it when I have to think. Anyway, we should have more
Johns. Transgender Johns, just to be PC.

Paul via phone


On May 15, 2016, at 9:17 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Him too.


On 5/15/2016 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Darrel


On May 15, 2016 12:49:47 PM PDT, Ken Waller
<kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote: What about Larry and his other
brother Larry?

Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -

From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: no mas mark



You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have
Big

Dave,

Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often
anymore),

Dave

C and New Dave.


On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote: Okay.  Ann
thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.

If I

worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.

Stringer

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail
List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you
& Surf's up!

Good point , Stringer

You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post
here:- )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)

and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. (
puns

always

intended)

Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without
rider

gave me

a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think
you could

prune

this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming
from

someone

who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen
them all  so



perhaps unfair. The  stump that others have mentioned is
interesting, but the birdie

is

the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster

ann


On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote: I'm "looking
at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On

judgment day

the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My
interpretation

of

judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that
humans

will

stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the
neglect,

abuse

and mistreatment of animals.

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole

Jacque

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss
Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at
you & Surf's up!

These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town
named

Cayucos

along Hwy 1.

This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the
pier: https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT

Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq

Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X





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Re: no mas mark

[Paul Stenquist]

There's another Paul Stenquist on Facebook. He's a  20-something  Swede who 
plays American football in Europe. We always exchange birthday messages and 
congratulate each other on the excellence of our name.

Paul via phone

> On May 15, 2016, at 9:17 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> When I was in my teens I met another "John Sessoms"; NOT at a family
> reunion.
> 
>> On 5/15/2016 7:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Oy is right.
>> 
>> Back before Apple grew to a size out of comprehension, I was the only
>> Godfrey there ... first OR last name! Then another Godfrey showed up
>> in the directory. We agreed that I was Godfrey and he was Godfrey'
>> (pronounced "godfrey prime'). I just looked in the directory and
>> found no fewer than four first name Godfreys, and about another dozen
>> or so last name Godfreys. Sheesh.
>> 
>> I'm still the only "DiGiorgi" however. :-) (When I worked at Sun
>> Microsystems, there was another DiGiorgi - Rinaldo DiGiorgi - and,
>> amazing, we weren't related!)
>> 
>> G
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2016, at 2:42 PM, ann sanfedele 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oy
>>> 
 On 5/15/2016 4:17 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: They should call everyone
 who works at Apple Steve. Then all the jobs would be Steve jobs.
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Re: no mas mark

[Paul Stenquist]

One might think we would have more Johns here, and I don't mean bathrooms. It 
is the most common name. We have two Pauls. Sometimes I read Paul said this, or 
Paul said that, and I have to think about that. I hate it when I have to think. 
Anyway, we should have more Johns. Transgender Johns, just to be PC.

Paul via phone

> On May 15, 2016, at 9:17 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Him too.
> 
>> On 5/15/2016 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Darrel
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2016 12:49:47 PM PDT, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>> What about Larry and his other brother Larry?
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Waller
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: no mas mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big
>>> Dave,
>>>> Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore),
>>> Dave
>>>> C and New Dave.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>>>> Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.
>>> If I
>>>>> worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stringer
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good point , Stringer
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post
>>>>> here:- )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns
>>> always
>>>>> intended)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider
>>> gave me
>>>>> a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could
>>> prune
>>>>> this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from
>>> someone
>>>>> who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so
>>> 
>>>>> perhaps unfair.
>>>>> The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie
>>> is
>>>>> the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster
>>>>> 
>>>>> ann
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>>>>> I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On
>>> judgment day
>>>>>> the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation
>>> of
>>>>>> judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans
>>> will
>>>>>> stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect,
>>> abuse
>>>>>> and mistreatment of animals.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole
>>> Jacque
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>>> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named
>>> Cayucos
>>>>>> along Hwy 1.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
>>>>>> https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X
>>> 
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Re: no mas mark

[John]

On 5/15/2016 5:36 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 15/5/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed:


You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave,
Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore),
Dave C and New Dave.


Thanks for reminding me of Cheech n Chong :-)





Yeah, that would be "Dave B" I guess.

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Re: no mas mark

[John]

Him too.

On 5/15/2016 3:59 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Darrel

On May 15, 2016 12:49:47 PM PDT, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

What about Larry and his other brother Larry?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -

From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: no mas mark



You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big

Dave,

Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore),

Dave

C and New Dave.

On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:

Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.

If I

worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.

Stringer

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

Good point , Stringer

You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post
here:- )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)

and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns

always

intended)

Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider

gave me

a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could

prune

this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from

someone

who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so



perhaps unfair.
The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie

is

the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster

ann

On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:

I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On

judgment day

the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation

of

judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans

will

stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect,

abuse

and mistreatment of animals.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole

Jacque

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named

Cayucos

along Hwy 1.

This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT

Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq

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Re: no mas mark

[John]

When I was in my teens I met another "John Sessoms"; NOT at a family
reunion.

On 5/15/2016 7:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Oy is right.

Back before Apple grew to a size out of comprehension, I was the only
Godfrey there ... first OR last name! Then another Godfrey showed up
in the directory. We agreed that I was Godfrey and he was Godfrey'
(pronounced "godfrey prime'). I just looked in the directory and
found no fewer than four first name Godfreys, and about another dozen
or so last name Godfreys. Sheesh.

I'm still the only "DiGiorgi" however. :-) (When I worked at Sun
Microsystems, there was another DiGiorgi - Rinaldo DiGiorgi - and,
amazing, we weren't related!)

G


On May 15, 2016, at 2:42 PM, ann sanfedele 
wrote:

Oy


On 5/15/2016 4:17 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: They should call everyone
who works at Apple Steve. Then all the jobs would be Steve jobs.




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Re: no mas mark

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Oy is right. 

Back before Apple grew to a size out of comprehension, I was the only Godfrey 
there ... first OR last name! Then another Godfrey showed up in the directory. 
We agreed that I was Godfrey and he was Godfrey' (pronounced "godfrey prime'). 
I just looked in the directory and found no fewer than four first name 
Godfreys, and about another dozen or so last name Godfreys. Sheesh. 

I'm still the only "DiGiorgi" however. :-) (When I worked at Sun Microsystems, 
there was another DiGiorgi - Rinaldo DiGiorgi - and, amazing, we weren't 
related!) 

G

> On May 15, 2016, at 2:42 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Oy
> 
>> On 5/15/2016 4:17 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> They should call everyone who works at Apple Steve. Then all the jobs would 
>> be Steve jobs.

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Re: no mas mark

[ann sanfedele]

Oy

On 5/15/2016 4:17 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

They should call everyone who works at Apple Steve. Then all the jobs would be 
Steve jobs.


On 15 May 2016, at 20:48, Nicole Jacque <jac...@mac.com> wrote:

At a company as large as Apple, name collisions are common, even for people's 
full first name last name combination.  I had a co-worker who had the same 
first and last name as four other people at Apple.  They started putting their 
department name as a middle name in the directory to try to make it easier to 
be found (and get less email intended for their name doppelgänger)

Until recently, I had two people in my group at work named Mishal.  (One of 
them recently left for a startup) Neither one of them had ever encountered 
someone with the same name before.  There is no one else in all of Apple, even 
internationally, with the name Mishal.  And they both end up on my team.  
Conveniently, they both did the same type of work, and had offices next door to 
each other.




On May 15, 2016, at 10:45 AM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:

You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, Little 
Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), Dave C and New 
Dave.


On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.

Stringer

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

Good point , Stringer

You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post here:- )although 
your comment is MARK worthy :-)

and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
intended)

Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me a 
chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune this 
group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone who things 
if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so perhaps unfair.
The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is the 
winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster

ann


On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day the 
sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of judgement day, with some levity 
but not entirely, is that humans will stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the 
neglect, abuse and mistreatment of animals.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos along 
Hwy 1.

This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT

Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq

Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X


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Re: no mas mark

[Steve Cottrell]

On 15/5/16, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, 
>Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), 
>Dave C and New Dave.

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Re: no mas mark

[Bob W-PDML]

They should call everyone who works at Apple Steve. Then all the jobs would be 
Steve jobs. 

> On 15 May 2016, at 20:48, Nicole Jacque <jac...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> At a company as large as Apple, name collisions are common, even for people's 
> full first name last name combination.  I had a co-worker who had the same 
> first and last name as four other people at Apple.  They started putting 
> their department name as a middle name in the directory to try to make it 
> easier to be found (and get less email intended for their name doppelgänger)
> 
> Until recently, I had two people in my group at work named Mishal.  (One of 
> them recently left for a startup) Neither one of them had ever encountered 
> someone with the same name before.  There is no one else in all of Apple, 
> even internationally, with the name Mishal.  And they both end up on my team. 
>  Conveniently, they both did the same type of work, and had offices next door 
> to each other.
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2016, at 10:45 AM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, 
>> Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), Dave C 
>> and New Dave.
>> 
>>> On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>> Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
>>> worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.
>>> 
>>> Stringer
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>> 
>>> Good point , Stringer
>>> 
>>> You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post here:- )although 
>>> your comment is MARK worthy :-)
>>> 
>>> and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
>>> intended)
>>> 
>>> Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me a 
>>> chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune 
>>> this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone who 
>>> things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so perhaps 
>>> unfair.
>>> The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is the 
>>> winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>>> On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>>> I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day 
>>>> the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of 
>>>> judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans will 
>>>> stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect, abuse 
>>>> and mistreatment of animals.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>> 
>>>> These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos 
>>>> along Hwy 1.
>>>> 
>>>> This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
>>>> https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT
>>>> 
>>>> Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq
>>>> 
>>>> Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X
>>> 
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Re: no mas mark

[Larry Colen]

Darrel

On May 15, 2016 12:49:47 PM PDT, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>What about Larry and his other brother Larry?
>
>Kenneth Waller
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: no mas mark
>
>
>> You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big
>Dave, 
>> Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore),
>Dave 
>> C and New Dave.
>>
>> On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>> Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer. 
>If I 
>>> worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.
>>>
>>> Stringer
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>
>>> Good point , Stringer
>>>
>>> You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post 
>>> here:- )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)
>>>
>>> and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns
>always
>>> intended)
>>>
>>> Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider
>gave me 
>>> a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could
>prune 
>>> this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from
>someone 
>>> who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so
>
>>> perhaps unfair.
>>> The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie
>is 
>>> the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>>> I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On
>judgment day 
>>>> the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation
>of 
>>>> judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans
>will 
>>>> stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect,
>abuse 
>>>> and mistreatment of animals.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole
>Jacque
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>>
>>>> These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named
>Cayucos 
>>>> along Hwy 1.
>>>>
>>>> This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
>>>> https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT
>>>>
>>>> Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq
>>>>
>>>> Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X
>
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Re: no mas mark

[Ken Waller]

What about Larry and his other brother Larry?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - 


From: "John" <sesso...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: no mas mark


You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, 
Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), Dave 
C and New Dave.


On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.


Stringer

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

Good point , Stringer

You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post 
here:- )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)


and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
intended)

Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me 
a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune 
this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone 
who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so 
perhaps unfair.
The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is 
the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster


ann

On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day 
the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of 
judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans will 
stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect, abuse 
and mistreatment of animals.


-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos 
along Hwy 1.


This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT

Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq

Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X



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Re: no mas mark

[Nicole Jacque]

At a company as large as Apple, name collisions are common, even for people's 
full first name last name combination.  I had a co-worker who had the same 
first and last name as four other people at Apple.  They started putting their 
department name as a middle name in the directory to try to make it easier to 
be found (and get less email intended for their name doppelgänger)

Until recently, I had two people in my group at work named Mishal.  (One of 
them recently left for a startup) Neither one of them had ever encountered 
someone with the same name before.  There is no one else in all of Apple, even 
internationally, with the name Mishal.  And they both end up on my team.  
Conveniently, they both did the same type of work, and had offices next door to 
each other.



> On May 15, 2016, at 10:45 AM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, 
> Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), Dave C 
> and New Dave.
> 
>> On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>> Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
>> worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.
>> 
>> Stringer
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>> 
>> Good point , Stringer
>> 
>> You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post here:- )although 
>> your comment is MARK worthy :-)
>> 
>> and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
>> intended)
>> 
>> Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me a 
>> chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune this 
>> group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone who 
>> things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so perhaps 
>> unfair.
>> The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is the 
>> winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>> I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day 
>>> the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of 
>>> judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans will stand 
>>> before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect, abuse and 
>>> mistreatment of animals.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>> 
>>> These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos 
>>> along Hwy 1.
>>> 
>>> This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
>>> https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT
>>> 
>>> Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq
>>> 
>>> Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X
>> 
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Re: no mas mark

[Rick Womer]

William Occam always thought he had the edge.

On May 15, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

> You must be thinking of Steve's smarter brother.
> 
>> On 15 May 2016, at 12:40, Rick Womer <rickpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ockham (Occam) was a William, so he would have had to change his name
>> to George, by a razor-thin margin.
>> 
>> Pardon the cutting remark.
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote:
>>> All the Marks should change their name to Steve. That would simplify 
>>> things. At least according to Ockham's theory. Steve of Ockham, that is.
>>> 
>>>> On 14 May 2016, at 12:41, Mark Stringer <c...@cmstringer.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
>>>> worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.
>>>> 
>>>> Stringer
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>> 
>>>> Good point , Stringer
>>>> 
>>>> You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post here:- 
>>>> )although your comment is MARK worthy :-)
>>>> 
>>>> and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
>>>> intended)
>>>> 
>>>> Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me 
>>>> a chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune 
>>>> this group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone 
>>>> who things if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so 
>>>> perhaps unfair.
>>>> The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is 
>>>> the winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster
>>>> 
>>>> ann
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:
>>>>> I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day 
>>>>> the sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of 
>>>>> judgement day, with some levity but not entirely, is that humans will 
>>>>> stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the neglect, abuse 
>>>>> and mistreatment of animals.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>> Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!
>>>>> 
>>>>> These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos 
>>>>> along Hwy 1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
>>>>> https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT
>>>>> 
>>>>> Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq
>>>>> 
>>>>> Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X
>>>> 
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Re: no mas mark

[John]

On 5/14/2016 10:55 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-05-14 7:10 , Bob W-PDML wrote:

All the Marks should change their name to Steve. That would simplify
things. At least according to Ockham's theory. Steve of Ockham, that is.


that doesn't work; i was one of three steves in 3rd grade; they decided
to call me the surname of my mother's then-boyfriend



Well, hopefully he had a cool surname.

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Re: no mas mark

[John]

You should come to my Tuesday night folk circle where we have Big Dave, 
Little Dave, Dave A, Dave B (who doesn't attend that often anymore), 
Dave C and New Dave.


On 5/14/2016 7:38 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:

Okay.  Ann thinks too many Mark's. Hence forth I shall be Stringer.  If I 
worked for a paper I could be Stringer the stringer.

Stringer

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 7:58 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: Re: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

Good point , Stringer

You have to be careful saying "mark" in the body of a post here:- )although 
your comment is MARK worthy :-)

and then I bet you could get confused with Cassino too.. ( puns always
intended)

Nicole, the pigeon shot is super, and the surfboard without rider gave me a 
chuckle.. I wish it were a bit darker overall.  I think you could prune this 
group of 20 a bit for more impact - but that's coming from someone who things 
if you've seen one surfing photo you've seen them all  so perhaps unfair.
The  stump that others have mentioned is interesting, but the birdie is the 
winner for me.  It's a money shot for a poster

ann

On 5/13/2016 7:18 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:

I'm "looking at you" makes me think of "judgement day".  On judgment day the 
sinner is to stand before God and be judged.  My interpretation of judgement day, with some levity 
but not entirely, is that humans will stand before the animal kingdom and have to atone for the 
neglect, abuse and mistreatment of animals.

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Nicole Jacque
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
Subject: PESOs: I'm looking at you & Surf's up!

These pictures were from a stop in a little coastal town named Cayucos along 
Hwy 1.

This guy was staring at me from the rafters under the pier:
https://flic.kr/p/GZYkbT

Surf’s up: https://flic.kr/p/H44ikq

Full album here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskAaag6X



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