Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
John, thank you for your description of your portrait subjects. I can say that I am not surprised. There must have been something between you and the cats that can be (somehow) captured using a camera. I thought Anthony and Alex were looking distant, if that is a correct word in this setting. For Eve, I was sure it would be my cat if I were to choose one based only on these images. Ella looked beautiful but for some reason (or for no reason at all) we could not make a connection. And, Spot was my next candidate for a serious relationship. :) I have recently lost my friend Pebble (a pointer, see: https://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/communication/ and https://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/cakil-ve-ben/ ) . My wife and I are now looking for one or two friends (perhaps, a cat and a dog) to live with us. This probably makes my antenna more sensitive these days. Have a nice time with all those companions. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun John Francis , 27 Ağu 2018 Pzt, 01:37 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:03:37AM +0300, Bulent Celasun wrote: > > What a show! > > I wonder if the images reflect their personalities fairly. > > Some soft, some curious some tough... > > That's a tough question - I know the cats too well, so I see > what I expect to see. I'll give you a potted biography for > each of them, and see if that matches your impressions. > > Anthony is an old cat (16). He is one of a litter of 4 kittens > that we fostered. Unfortunately they were almost three months > old when we got them, and had been living a semi-feral life. > By that age they are pretty much set in their ways. > When he was a kitten he was always hiding somewhere - behind > a box, in between the cushions on the sofa, under a chair, ... > For most of his life he didn't really interact much with us. > In the last year or so, though, he's been having some digestive > issues, and needs to be fed a special diet. He's got used to > coming up and demanding food, and seems to have forgotten that > people were scary - he will lie beside me on the bed, and has > even settled down on my lap on a few occasions. He still has > more than a few doubts about my wife, though. > > Alex is my wife's cat. He will allow me to stroke him, but > makes it very clear that this is a poor substitute for the > real thing. He spends most of the day asleep waiting for my > wife to come home so he can leap up on her desk to greet her. > He also supervises her when she gets up every morning. > > Eve was a cat we didn't plan for. I had just taken one of > Anthony's siblings to the local humane society for her last > trip - while there wasn't anything medically wrong with her > she'd stopped eating, had difficulty walking, etc. She'd > decided she had come to the end of her time, and was just > waiting for the inevitable. Rather than prolong her pain > and suffering I gave her a peaceful ending. Even so it's > a hard thing to do, so I sat for a while in the cat area > before driving home. There were only a couple of cats out > at the time, and I was told that one of them wasn't really > sociable - she hardly interacted with any of the volunteers. > The cat, however, obviously had othe plans. Almost as soon > as I sat down she leaped up onto the bench beside me, then > head-butted my arm out of the way to climb onto my lap. > Apparently she had decided she was going home with me. > Other than that she's a fairly typical tortie - she can > go in a trice from accepting all the attention you can > give her to biting the hand that dares to disturb her fur. > And what fur it is! Long and silky, but maintenance free! > > Ella was a cat returned to a local shelter when her owner > went off to college. She's taken a while to accept us as her > new staff. Unfortunately she seeks a cure for her insecurity > in the food bowl, and could really do with losing some weight. > But with multiple other cats in the household (who all want > to eat on different schedules) there's always food available. > Sadly, her fur isn't maintenance free, so we do sometimes > have to make her suffer the indignity of being brushed. > > Spot was one of the fosters we had last year (a mother and > her five kittens). The mother was, unusually, a ginger tabby. > (that's far more common in males than in females). All of > her kittens were boys, and all of them were ginger tabbies. > The mother was semi-feral (she eventually got a placement > as a barn cat), so even though they were used to the presence > of humans (we got them when they were a couple of days old) > they weren't particularly demonstrative, and were always a > little withdrawn when interacting with people. > Spot (named after Data's cat on Star Trek) didn't orig
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 09:03:37AM +0300, Bulent Celasun wrote: > What a show! > I wonder if the images reflect their personalities fairly. > Some soft, some curious some tough... That's a tough question - I know the cats too well, so I see what I expect to see. I'll give you a potted biography for each of them, and see if that matches your impressions. Anthony is an old cat (16). He is one of a litter of 4 kittens that we fostered. Unfortunately they were almost three months old when we got them, and had been living a semi-feral life. By that age they are pretty much set in their ways. When he was a kitten he was always hiding somewhere - behind a box, in between the cushions on the sofa, under a chair, ... For most of his life he didn't really interact much with us. In the last year or so, though, he's been having some digestive issues, and needs to be fed a special diet. He's got used to coming up and demanding food, and seems to have forgotten that people were scary - he will lie beside me on the bed, and has even settled down on my lap on a few occasions. He still has more than a few doubts about my wife, though. Alex is my wife's cat. He will allow me to stroke him, but makes it very clear that this is a poor substitute for the real thing. He spends most of the day asleep waiting for my wife to come home so he can leap up on her desk to greet her. He also supervises her when she gets up every morning. Eve was a cat we didn't plan for. I had just taken one of Anthony's siblings to the local humane society for her last trip - while there wasn't anything medically wrong with her she'd stopped eating, had difficulty walking, etc. She'd decided she had come to the end of her time, and was just waiting for the inevitable. Rather than prolong her pain and suffering I gave her a peaceful ending. Even so it's a hard thing to do, so I sat for a while in the cat area before driving home. There were only a couple of cats out at the time, and I was told that one of them wasn't really sociable - she hardly interacted with any of the volunteers. The cat, however, obviously had othe plans. Almost as soon as I sat down she leaped up onto the bench beside me, then head-butted my arm out of the way to climb onto my lap. Apparently she had decided she was going home with me. Other than that she's a fairly typical tortie - she can go in a trice from accepting all the attention you can give her to biting the hand that dares to disturb her fur. And what fur it is! Long and silky, but maintenance free! Ella was a cat returned to a local shelter when her owner went off to college. She's taken a while to accept us as her new staff. Unfortunately she seeks a cure for her insecurity in the food bowl, and could really do with losing some weight. But with multiple other cats in the household (who all want to eat on different schedules) there's always food available. Sadly, her fur isn't maintenance free, so we do sometimes have to make her suffer the indignity of being brushed. Spot was one of the fosters we had last year (a mother and her five kittens). The mother was, unusually, a ginger tabby. (that's far more common in males than in females). All of her kittens were boys, and all of them were ginger tabbies. The mother was semi-feral (she eventually got a placement as a barn cat), so even though they were used to the presence of humans (we got them when they were a couple of days old) they weren't particularly demonstrative, and were always a little withdrawn when interacting with people. Spot (named after Data's cat on Star Trek) didn't originally have that name. We were working on names for the kittens, and had got as far as "ginger" for the one that didn't have Any white fur. One of the others was, as is typical, somewhat smaller than the rest. At one point I referred to him as the baby cat. That gave me an idea, and the other three were from that moment Sporty (who became Spot), Scary & Posh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
What a show! I wonder if the images reflect their personalities fairly. Some soft, some curious some tough... Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun John Francis , 26 Ağu 2018 Paz, 06:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 04:23:17PM -0400, John Francis wrote: > > > > I realised that I didn't actually have pictures of most of our > > cats. Expect a gallery soon ... > > A gallery is going to take a little longer - I haven't installed > a gallery creator on my current machine :-( > > In the meantime, here's a collage of the residents, arranged in > order of seniority (I couldn't decide which picture of Eve to use). > > http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/Collage.jpg > > Enjoy! (unless you're MJ, of course) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 04:23:17PM -0400, John Francis wrote: > > I realised that I didn't actually have pictures of most of our > cats. Expect a gallery soon ... A gallery is going to take a little longer - I haven't installed a gallery creator on my current machine :-( In the meantime, here's a collage of the residents, arranged in order of seniority (I couldn't decide which picture of Eve to use). http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/Collage.jpg Enjoy! (unless you're MJ, of course) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 03:35:57PM -0400, John Francis wrote: > > The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing > the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. > > It appears to be working ... > > http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg > > I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... Thanks to all who have commented. I'm sure the new 50/f1.4 is a far better lens, but I'd never use it enough to justify the cost. I'm just glad that Bill decided to upgrade his system, and parted with the old lens at a price that garnered me nothing more than a resigned look from the household accountant (and, nowadays, sole wage-earner). Getting it has prompted me to actually pick up the camera again - I realised that I didn't actually have pictures of most of our cats. Expect a gallery soon ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
I don't sell lenses often ... but when I do they're mostly Pentax Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't sell lenses often. MARK -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
> On 25 Aug 2018, at 01:00, "l...@red4est.com" wrote: > > I often go that long without saying anything noteworthy, that doesn't stop > people from quoting me. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you. > >> On August 24, 2018 10:43:17 AM PDT, Bill wrote: >>> On 8/24/2018 2:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I don't sell lenses often. >>> >>> MARK >>> >> >> Drats. I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything >> noteworthy. >> >> bill >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul > On Aug 24, 2018, at 7:59 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > > I often go that long without saying anything noteworthy, that doesn't stop > people from quoting me. > MARK! >> On August 24, 2018 10:43:17 AM PDT, Bill wrote: >>> On 8/24/2018 2:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> I don't sell lenses often. >>> >>> MARK >>> >> >> Drats. I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything >> noteworthy. >> >> bill >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
I often go that long without saying anything noteworthy, that doesn't stop people from quoting me. On August 24, 2018 10:43:17 AM PDT, Bill wrote: >On 8/24/2018 2:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> I don't sell lenses often. >> >> MARK >> > >Drats. I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything >noteworthy. > >bill > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/24/2018 13:43, Bill wrote: On 8/24/2018 2:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't sell lenses often. MARK Drats. I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything noteworthy. bill It's not that hard to do. I've managed it several times. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/24/2018 11:53 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/8/18, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything noteworthy. MARKMARKMARK DammitDammitDammit. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/8/18, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything noteworthy. MARKMARKMARK -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and || (O) |Live Broadcast News -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/24/2018 2:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't sell lenses often. MARK Drats. I was hoping to go a full year without saying anything noteworthy. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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MARK squared. Jostein Den 24.08.2018 10:48, skrev Steve Cottrell: On 24/8/18, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't sell lenses often. MARK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:43 PM Paul Stenquist wrote: > Nice shot. Sharp, good detail. It’s a great lens, eclipsed perhaps only by > the new much more pricey 50. It’s definitely eclipsed by the new 50. I don’t sell lenses often. Bill > > > On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:35 PM, John Francis wrote: > > > > > > The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing > > the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. > > > > It appears to be working ... > > > >http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg > > > > It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an > > SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film > > and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. > > But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my > > trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 > > > > I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
Aw that's purrfect. -Original Message- >From: John Francis >Subject: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens > > >The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing >the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. > >It appears to be working ... > >http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg > >It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an >SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film >and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. >But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my >trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 > >I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
Nice shot. Sharp, good detail. It’s a great lens, eclipsed perhaps only by the new much more pricey 50. > On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:35 PM, John Francis wrote: > > > The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing > the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. > > It appears to be working ... > >http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg > > It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an > SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film > and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. > But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my > trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 > > I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
you gave away a smc pentax F 50mm F1.7 ??? thats a highly rated, fast, lens. jco On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 15:35:57 -0400, John Francis wrote: The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. It appears to be working ... http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
oh what a nice portrait! ann On 8/23/2018 3:35 PM, John Francis wrote: The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. It appears to be working ... http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 1:36 PM John Francis wrote: > > The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing > the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. > > It appears to be working ... > That's a relief. It arrived in good condition. Bikk > > http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg > > It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an > SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film > and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. > But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my > trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 > > I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - First shot with a new (to me) lens
The USPS just dropped of a package from Canada containing the FA 50/f1.4 that Bill Robb offered for sale recently. It appears to be working ... http://www.panix.com/~johnf/PDML/alex.jpg It's not quite my first auto-focus prime - I was given an SF1 with F 50/f1.7 by a neighbour when he abandoned film and switched to a Nikon compact point-and-shoot digital. But I gave that outfit away, and have been relying on my trusty old A 50/f1.4 when I needed something beyond f/2.8 I'm going to have to get used to thinking about DOF again ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On 13/04/2014 8:13 PM, Tim Bray wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Bill wrote: Oh, you can get ones that gateway the aperture through? I had no idea. But the basic cheapie is the way to start. In particular I want to try my 100m f2.8 macro. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888378-REG/Novoflex_fux_pent_Adapter_for_Pentax_K.html Hm, and yet the description there is profoundly opaque, leaving me with no idea what the extra $200 or so buys you. Aperture control on aperture ring free lenses. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
I can attest to what Godfrey said. I've Novoflex adapter from Leica M to Pentax K - works like a charm. No problems of any kind whatsoever and like it has been said - the manual aperture control on the adapter so that any K-mount lens can be used if necessary. On 4/14/2014 6:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I can answer you that: consistent, precision manufacture of the best materials, along with the manual aperture control for DA series lenses, and no light leaks. I've used many different lens mount adapters since 2008, using various lenses on mFT, M-mount, and E-mount bodies. It is largely a matter of subtlety. The best, bar none, are the Novoflex. Godfrey On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:13 AM, Tim Bray wrote: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888378-REG/Novoflex_fux_pent_Adapter_for_Pentax_K.html Hm, and yet the description there is profoundly opaque, leaving me with no idea what the extra $200 or so buys you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
I can answer you that: consistent, precision manufacture of the best materials, along with the manual aperture control for DA series lenses, and no light leaks. I've used many different lens mount adapters since 2008, using various lenses on mFT, M-mount, and E-mount bodies. It is largely a matter of subtlety. The best, bar none, are the Novoflex. Godfrey On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:13 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >> >> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888378-REG/Novoflex_fux_pent_Adapter_for_Pentax_K.html > > Hm, and yet the description there is profoundly opaque, leaving me > with no idea what the extra $200 or so buys you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Bill wrote: >> Oh, you can get ones that gateway the aperture through? I had no >> idea. But the basic cheapie is the way to start. In particular I >> want to try my 100m f2.8 macro. > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888378-REG/Novoflex_fux_pent_Adapter_for_Pentax_K.html Hm, and yet the description there is profoundly opaque, leaving me with no idea what the extra $200 or so buys you. > > Aperture control, not an aperture per se. > > Did you manage to get the Wi-Fi to work? > > > bill > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On 13/04/2014 3:51 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Oh, you can get ones that gateway the aperture through? I had no idea. But the basic cheapie is the way to start. In particular I want to try my 100m f2.8 macro. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888378-REG/Novoflex_fux_pent_Adapter_for_Pentax_K.html Aperture control, not an aperture per se. Did you manage to get the Wi-Fi to work? bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
Oh, you can get ones that gateway the aperture through? I had no idea. But the basic cheapie is the way to start. In particular I want to try my 100m f2.8 macro. -T On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Bill wrote: > On 12/04/2014 9:52 PM, Tim Bray wrote: >> >> Hey BIll, which K-mount adapter did you get for the Fujis? They all >> look more or less the same to me, is that a fair take? >> >> > > Mine says Pixoo on the side of it. I'm pretty sure there isn't much to say > from one to the other until you hit the big time with the really expensive > ones that have a built in aperture. Mine is but a simple tube with a K-Mount > at one and and an X- mount at the other. I think it cost me all of $30.00. > > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On 12/04/2014 9:52 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Hey BIll, which K-mount adapter did you get for the Fujis? They all look more or less the same to me, is that a fair take? Mine says Pixoo on the side of it. I'm pretty sure there isn't much to say from one to the other until you hit the big time with the really expensive ones that have a built in aperture. Mine is but a simple tube with a K-Mount at one and and an X- mount at the other. I think it cost me all of $30.00. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
Thanks Chris, So far, so good. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: > Welcome to the ever growing Fuji X club Bob! > Chris > > On 12 April 2014 17:40, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits >> with his Fuji got me looking. >> Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. >> It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. >> I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. >> It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. >> Here some test shots this AM. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 >> >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
Welcome to the ever growing Fuji X club Bob! Chris On 12 April 2014 17:40, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits > with his Fuji got me looking. > Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. > It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. > I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. > It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. > Here some test shots this AM. > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 > > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
Hey BIll, which K-mount adapter did you get for the Fujis? They all look more or less the same to me, is that a fair take? On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill wrote: > On 12/04/2014 2:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> >> I got to look at the new Fuji line in a camera store today. >> That 56mm f/1.2 sure looks nice. >> >> > > It sure IS nice. I'm in enablement pig heaven right now. I bought the X-Pro1 > and 35/1.4 last year so as to have a faster standard prime, but still a > camera I could mount Pentax glass onto. Last month I picked up an X-T1 and > 23/1.4, a week after that the 60.2.4 and a week after that, the 56/1.2. I > chose a Domke F6, but don't have it yet. > It's a nice system, and if you are someone who wants to use pre A series > lenses, the X-T1 is better than Pentax bodies with the older lenses. The EVF > takes some getting used to. I sort of like it, sort of don't. It seems > really dim in the daylight, but really bright in dimmer light. > It is a battery hog. It is a camera that forces the user to buy third party > batteries. > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On 12/04/2014 2:43 PM, Tim Bray wrote: The Fujis are IMHO overpriced. But at the moment that’s what you pay for quality as good as any APC-C camera in the world, only half the size/weight. They put sales on quite often that put the stuff into OK territory. MY X-Pro1 came with a "free" 35/1.4, the X-T1 came with a "free" battery grip. and the 14, 23 and 60 all had significant sale price adjustments. The 56 was full price $$, so one needs to decide if it's worth it, or just go for the much less expensive 60mm, which is a fine lens, just slower. The Fuji bodies and lenses all say Made in Japan on them as well. I wonder if that is causing some premium pricing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
On 12/04/2014 2:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I got to look at the new Fuji line in a camera store today. That 56mm f/1.2 sure looks nice. It sure IS nice. I'm in enablement pig heaven right now. I bought the X-Pro1 and 35/1.4 last year so as to have a faster standard prime, but still a camera I could mount Pentax glass onto. Last month I picked up an X-T1 and 23/1.4, a week after that the 60.2.4 and a week after that, the 56/1.2. I chose a Domke F6, but don't have it yet. It's a nice system, and if you are someone who wants to use pre A series lenses, the X-T1 is better than Pentax bodies with the older lenses. The EVF takes some getting used to. I sort of like it, sort of don't. It seems really dim in the daylight, but really bright in dimmer light. It is a battery hog. It is a camera that forces the user to buy third party batteries. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
On 12/4/14, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed: >I got my new X-T1 yesterday. First fruits: >https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2014/04/11/Vancouver-Camera-Spring Grrr -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
The Fujis are IMHO overpriced. But at the moment that’s what you pay for quality as good as any APC-C camera in the world, only half the size/weight. In the mirrorless space right at the moment, the Fuji claim to fame is better ergonomics and wonderful lenses, especially the primes. Reminds me of some other camera company... On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Pricey, or spendy as the Brits say... > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl > wrote: >> I got to look at the new Fuji line in a camera store today. >> That 56mm f/1.2 sure looks nice. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
Pricey, or spendy as the Brits say... On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > I got to look at the new Fuji line in a camera store today. > That 56mm f/1.2 sure looks nice. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera.
I got to look at the new Fuji line in a camera store today. That 56mm f/1.2 sure looks nice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
Looks liek a decent performner. and i lobve On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits > with his Fuji got me looking. > Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. > It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. > I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. > It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. > Here some test shots this AM. > > http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 > > Regards, Bob S. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > Looks like a decent performner. and i love Dougs work Dave > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits >> with his Fuji got me looking. >> Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. >> It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. >> I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. >> It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. >> Here some test shots this AM. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 >> >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
I got my new X-T1 yesterday. First fruits: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2014/04/11/Vancouver-Camera-Spring Same image quality as X-E1, but faster and more convenient, and a mind-blowing EVF. It looked like it was going to take a long time to get an X-T1 so I yanked the X-E1 off the market, the person who offered for it gets first crack it it, if they don’t want it it’ll be for sale here again. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Paul wrote: > Looks like a pretty capable performer... > > -p > > On 4/12/2014 11:40 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits >> with his Fuji got me looking. >> Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. >> It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. >> I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. >> It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. >> Here some test shots this AM. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 >> >> Regards, Bob S. >> > > -- > Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
Looks like a pretty capable performer... -p On 4/12/2014 11:40 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits with his Fuji got me looking. Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. Here some test shots this AM. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 Regards, Bob S. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New to me - Fuji X-A1 mirrorless camera
Well, Tim Bray's offer to sell his Fuji X-E1 and Doug's fine portraits with his Fuji got me looking. Then Wens., B&H was offering the Fujifilm X-A1 for $499 w/sd card. It came with the consumer grade 16-50 zoom. I took the plunge and have had the camera now for 16 hours. It's small and light, plus amazingly capable. Here some test shots this AM. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1068010 Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: New to me....
Thanks, Bob. I am happy to get some responce. And I'm qiute happy that the K20D kan make such nice movies with a fine image quality - better than most "real" videos from a single shot digicams. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Aug 3, 2008 14:32 "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jens, > That's cute. Glad somebody is figuring out how to do that. > Congratulations on the new baby! > Regards, Bob S. > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello list > > I suspect you guys have already talked about this. But since I first > > got my K20D a week ago, it's quite new to me. I'm talkning about the > > 21 FPS shooting mode. > > > > Having a new baby, I think it's a lot of fun making movies from > > single frame esposures like these. I used Blaze Gif Creator for this > > small Flash Movie: > > > > http://www.jensbladt.dk/Alvin/Movie2/smile.html > > > > Regards > > Jens > > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New to me....
Jens, That's cute. Glad somebody is figuring out how to do that. Congratulations on the new baby! Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list > I suspect you guys have already talked about this. But since I first got my > K20D a week ago, it's quite new to me. I'm talkning about the 21 FPS shooting > mode. > > Having a new baby, I think it's a lot of fun making movies from single frame > esposures like these. I used Blaze Gif Creator for this small Flash Movie: > > http://www.jensbladt.dk/Alvin/Movie2/smile.html > > Regards > Jens > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New to me....
Hello list I suspect you guys have already talked about this. But since I first got my K20D a week ago, it's quite new to me. I'm talkning about the 21 FPS shooting mode. Having a new baby, I think it's a lot of fun making movies from single frame esposures like these. I used Blaze Gif Creator for this small Flash Movie: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Alvin/Movie2/smile.html Regards Jens Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Old news to most, new to me: K1D
Hi, Has anyone been able to translate this info, I'm sure this is old news to most of you but it looks interesting to me... the google translation is pretty hard to follow. RE: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/09/28/4716.html thanks for your help Nic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
That's gonna look good on that Canon! Don > -Original Message- > From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:55 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!! > > > I think the first photograph was made in the 1820's but I don't know if > it was practical. OTOH they say > that the biggest problem in engineering is knowing if something is > possible. > > This has nothing to do with Cotty being born in the wrong era except... > > http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-118.html > > > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. > During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on > during peacetime. > --P.J. O'Rourke > >
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
I think the first photograph was made in the 1820's but I don't know if it was practical. OTOH they say that the biggest problem in engineering is knowing if something is possible. This has nothing to do with Cotty being born in the wrong era except... http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-118.html Cotty wrote: On 4/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: In your case, I'd say maybe 120 years. Either too late, or too early - take your pick. I dunno, 1840 - - I might have beat them all to inventing photography ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On 4/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >In your case, I'd say maybe 120 years. >Either too late, or too early - take your pick. I dunno, 1840 - - I might have beat them all to inventing photography ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Cotty mused: > > On 4/1/05, Luigi de Guzman, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I was probably born about 20 years too late (!) > > No no no you must be mistaken, that's me! In your case, I'd say maybe 120 years. Either too late, or too early - take your pick.
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On 4/1/05, Luigi de Guzman, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was probably born about 20 years too late (!) No no no you must be mistaken, that's me! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 02:59, Jon Glass wrote: > On Jan 3, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Luigi de Guzman wrote: > > A valid question, since, as I recall, CDs play from the centre > > outwards. > > Of course, it's only valid if you've never played a record before I > need to ask my kids what they would do... I'm 24 and, when I was at school, was one of the last to remember how to use a record player, so. I will be one of the last to know how to use a chemical darkroom, or an all mechanical camera. I was probably born about 20 years too late (!) -Luigi
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Jan 3, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Luigi de Guzman wrote: A valid question, since, as I recall, CDs play from the centre outwards. Of course, it's only valid if you've never played a record before I need to ask my kids what they would do... -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Luigi de Guzman mused: > > On Monday 03 January 2005 15:23, Jens Bladt wrote: > > > > > A friend of mine has a young daughter, who wanted to try her dads old > > grammophone/record palyer. > > After having put the record on the turntable she wanted to place the pick > > up on the record and asked: "Where does it start, in the centre or at the > > edge?" > > A valid question, since, as I recall, CDs play from the centre outwards. And read from the lower surface, not from the upper surface ...
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Luigi de Guzman wrote: On Monday 03 January 2005 15:23, Jens Bladt wrote: A friend of mine has a young daughter, who wanted to try her dads old grammophone/record palyer. After having put the record on the turntable she wanted to place the pick up on the record and asked: "Where does it start, in the centre or at the edge?" A valid question, since, as I recall, CDs play from the centre outwards. Yup, they do. /Henri
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Monday 03 January 2005 15:23, Jens Bladt wrote: > > A friend of mine has a young daughter, who wanted to try her dads old > grammophone/record palyer. > After having put the record on the turntable she wanted to place the pick > up on the record and asked: "Where does it start, in the centre or at the > edge?" A valid question, since, as I recall, CDs play from the centre outwards.
RE: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
That's very funny, Don. I guess some future generation digicam will have combined disposeable sensors with a built-in memory - rolled up in a canister, of course. Pull it out in the dark and feed it into a slot in the computer. Not more CCD-dist probelmes. No more outdated CCD's. A friend of mine has a young daughter, who wanted to try her dads old grammophone/record palyer. After having put the record on the turntable she wanted to place the pick up on the record and asked: "Where does it start, in the centre or at the edge?" Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 31. december 2004 22:41 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!! Howdy David! Ah, one of those new critters that uses Flexible Internally Loaded Memory! We here on the list have coin the friendly term F.I.L.M. for that type of memory, quite unique stuff. Solar powered and totally insensitive to magnetic fields. Good stuff! You will find that on the right side of the camera is a winder crank that is used to advance from one 40-60 Megapixel segment of memory to the next. Lifting the LEFT hand crank after winding all of the memory into it's protective "Memory Module" opens the access panel to allow another memory module to be installed. These modules are typically found to contain either 24 or 36 of these 40-60MP memory segments. Hope this helps! Don > -Original Message- > From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 3:26 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!! > > > Heoo gents and ladies :) > > After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd > come back to the list to see what's cooking. > > I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I > owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my > question: > > Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) > > Glad to be back, > Cheers, > Dave > >
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Poor man's digital? Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, > > you can hold the exposed "capture area" up to the light for quick and easy > > viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. > > Is that like analogue chimping?
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 07:54:56 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, > you can hold the exposed "capture area" up to the light for quick and easy > viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. Is that like analogue chimping? -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Another great thing about these memory cassettes is that, once processed, you can hold the exposed "capture area" up to the light for quick and easy viewing. No need to tie into a laptop or satellite system. Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > These memory cassettes have good points and bad points. On the bad > side, they'll only take 36 frames. One the good side, there's only > one resolution to choose from (highest) - you can compress the files > later in your computer for Internet purposes. And, if your batteries > run out, the capture system still works! Just shoot away, setting > your own aperture and shutter speed manually! How's that for > innovation!!
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
> Heoo gents and ladies :) > > After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd > come back to the list to see what's cooking. > > I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I > owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: > > Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) > > Glad to be back, > Cheers, > Dave Good to see your back Dave. At least i should not get a K1000 and LX mixed up as i sometimes do.LOL As for the memory card,you'll need to give them all to me.:-) Dave
Re: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Written as a joke, but actually a pretty accurate description of it. It is a version of WORM (Write Once Read Many) optical memory. While it seems obsolete marketingwise, it is still a very functional system. BTW, most of those cartridges have room for more frames of memory (40 - 72), but people did not seem to want to pay for that many frames at a time. An advantage of WORM memory is that it provides archival copies of the images without extra effort on the part of the user. If digital had RW systems had came first FILM would probably would probably be applauded as a wonderful breakthrough in imaging. But as it came first it is dismissed as OLD. (Anyone know what that acronym means? It has been around so long I have forgotten.) graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Don Sanderson wrote: Howdy David! Ah, one of those new critters that uses Flexible Internally Loaded Memory! We here on the list have coin the friendly term F.I.L.M. for that type of memory, quite unique stuff. Solar powered and totally insensitive to magnetic fields. Good stuff! You will find that on the right side of the camera is a winder crank that is used to advance from one 40-60 Megapixel segment of memory to the next. Lifting the LEFT hand crank after winding all of the memory into it's protective "Memory Module" opens the access panel to allow another memory module to be installed. These modules are typically found to contain either 24 or 36 of these 40-60MP memory segments. Hope this helps! Don -Original Message- From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 3:26 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!! Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) Glad to be back, Cheers, Dave -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:26:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heoo gents and ladies :) > > After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd > come back to the list to see what's cooking. > > I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I > owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: > > Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) > > Glad to be back, > Cheers, > Dave > > Seriously, we're always glad to see you here (again), David. WRT the memory card, the K1000 has an innovative and daring new type of memory card: a sort of "anologue memory strip". Instead of fiddling with little slots, the whole back of the camera opens to accept the card. The card itself is a largish, ergonomically shaped cylinder. Just pull the cellulose "capture area" across the back of the shutter to a handy take-up spool, close the back of the camera, and you're set to go. These memory cassettes have good points and bad points. On the bad side, they'll only take 36 frames. One the good side, there's only one resolution to choose from (highest) - you can compress the files later in your computer for internet purposes. And, if your batteries run out, the capture system still works! Just shoot away, setting your own aperture and shutter speed manually! How's that for innovation!! Have fun! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Howdy David! Ah, one of those new critters that uses Flexible Internally Loaded Memory! We here on the list have coin the friendly term F.I.L.M. for that type of memory, quite unique stuff. Solar powered and totally insensitive to magnetic fields. Good stuff! You will find that on the right side of the camera is a winder crank that is used to advance from one 40-60 Megapixel segment of memory to the next. Lifting the LEFT hand crank after winding all of the memory into it's protective "Memory Module" opens the access panel to allow another memory module to be installed. These modules are typically found to contain either 24 or 36 of these 40-60MP memory segments. Hope this helps! Don > -Original Message- > From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 3:26 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!! > > > Heoo gents and ladies :) > > After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd > come back to the list to see what's cooking. > > I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I > owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my > question: > > Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) > > Glad to be back, > Cheers, > Dave > >
Re: OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:26:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heoo gents and ladies :) > > After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd > come back to the list to see what's cooking. > > I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I > owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: > > Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) > go away -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
OT: I'm Back with a "new to me" K1000 !!!
Heoo gents and ladies :) After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd come back to the list to see what's cooking. I've got a question about my "new to me" k1000 - it's been a while since I owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question: Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;) Glad to be back, Cheers, Dave
RE: MZ-S - new to me
I can relate to that, although I've also just got a secondhand Pentax 645 which I really enjoy using, so I'm torn in three directions when I want to go taking photographs. Decisions, decisions. Sometimes it seems easier to stay at home ;-) Nick -Original Message- From: "wendy beard"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 08/12/04 20:35:50 I like my MZ-S very much. Despite owning three digiSLRs I took it out for a spin a couple of weeks ago just because I enjoyed using it. In fact I'm even thinkng of selling my *istD to encourage me to use it a bit more Wendy
RE: MZ-S - new to me
--- Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC > and the small and medium fronts. The first is great > for the primes, and the latter for the 24-90. That > doesn't see much action though. > > Nick > I read this paragraph and thought to myself - this is a guy who had an MX complete with case. Was I right? Then I saw your next post :-) I have both the small & medium fronts for my MZ-S. Like you said, just brilliant for when you just want to sling the camera in an ordinary bag. I like my MZ-S very much. Despite owning three digiSLRs I took it out for a spin a couple of weeks ago just because I enjoyed using it. In fact I'm even thinkng of selling my *istD to encourage me to use it a bit more Wendy
Re: MZ-S - new to me
Tom from New Jersey? On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:05:31 -0500, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:49:17 -0600, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nick, > > > > Bruce showed us how rotate the dial with a pull at Grandfather > > Mountain this year. > > He had somebody's MZ-S (Caesar's? or Tom C.'s?). Bruce sure does know > > his equipment. I remembered the trick when I got the camera and have > > had no dial problems. > > > > I checked the roll counter on my first roll of film. The camera looks > > mint and the straps, etc. had never been put on it. The count on my > > 1st roll was 27. I'm just hoping that means only 26 other rolls have > > been thru the camera. > > Congrats on a new toy, Bob. > > Was Tom C. at GFM? If so, I didn't meet him. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
Re: MZ-S - new to me
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:49:17 -0600, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick, > > Bruce showed us how rotate the dial with a pull at Grandfather > Mountain this year. > He had somebody's MZ-S (Caesar's? or Tom C.'s?). Bruce sure does know > his equipment. I remembered the trick when I got the camera and have > had no dial problems. > > I checked the roll counter on my first roll of film. The camera looks > mint and the straps, etc. had never been put on it. The count on my > 1st roll was 27. I'm just hoping that means only 26 other rolls have > been thru the camera. Congrats on a new toy, Bob. Was Tom C. at GFM? If so, I didn't meet him. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: MZ-S - new to me
Congratulations on your choice of the Pentax MZ-S! It's a very enjoyable camera to use, with a high-quality feel to it. If you get the BG-10 grip, it's even better. The infra-red remote is handier than you might think, enabling self-portraits from as far away as 15-20 feet, and a good substitute for a cable release. You're right about the minimal vibration. I've been able to get sharp pictures, hand-held, at surprisingly slow speeds. The data imprinting feature is really appreciated, especially when doing a series of test shots. As for the film counter, I'm happy to say I just shot roll 253, and the camera works as well as the day I bought it. At 27 rolls, yours is nearly new. Happy shooting! Pat White
Re: MZ-S - new to me
Nick, Bruce showed us how rotate the dial with a pull at Grandfather Mountain this year. He had somebody's MZ-S (Caesar's? or Tom C.'s?). Bruce sure does know his equipment. I remembered the trick when I got the camera and have had no dial problems. I checked the roll counter on my first roll of film. The camera looks mint and the straps, etc. had never been put on it. The count on my 1st roll was 27. I'm just hoping that means only 26 other rolls have been thru the camera. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:50:27 -0800, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Nick, > > Just a tip - When I owned two of them I found that the dial rotated > smoothly when pulled rather than pushed. So the technique is to > lightly pull from top to bottom on one side of the dial or other with > your thumb instead of pushing against it. Try it - you'll be > surprised how it suddenly works easily. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > Monday, December 6, 2004, 9:05:56 AM, you wrote: > > NC> Welcome to the MZ-S owners club! I think it's a great camera, > NC> especially with A and M prime lenses. I wish the control dial was > NC> slightly less stiff so I could turn it with one finger, and that > NC> it showed the aperture in the viewfinder and imprinted on the film > NC> with A lenses in Av mode, but othe than that it's great. > > NC> I have the BG-10 grip but only occasionally use it. I've > NC> never gotten to grips (pun not intended) with using it in vertical > NC> mode. The shutter button is just too far down. It's useful for the > NC> infrared, but that should've been built into the body. I used it > NC> the other night though. I had been taken a series of shots of > NC> children receiving presentations using the MZ-S and the 24-90 FA. > NC> After about 45 shots in 20 minutes the AF started to slow down, > NC> but the batteries were not showing as low. Putting the grip on > NC> solved the problem, so I reckon the poor little CR2s were > NC> struggling with the load even though they had a full charge. > > NC> Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC and the > NC> small and medium fronts. The first is great for the primes, and > NC> the latter for the 24-90. That doesn't see much action though. > > NC> Nick > > NC> -Original Message- > NC> From: "Bob Sullivan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > NC> Sent: 06/12/04 00:02:08 > NC> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > NC> Subject: MZ-S - new to me > > NC> I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. > NC> (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but > whatever...) > > NC> It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. > NC> The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is > NC> a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish > NC> are great, but not waterproof. > > NC> I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. > NC> The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much > NC> quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration > NC> too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now > NC> have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I > NC> took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. > > NC> Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? > > NC> The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! > NC> Sorry we all missed it. > > NC> Regards, Bob S. > >
Re: MZ-S - new to me
- Original Message - From: "Nick Clark" Subject: RE: MZ-S - new to me ERC = Ever Ready Case. Ah yes, I learned to call them NRC (Never Ready Case). William Robb
RE: MZ-S - new to me
ERC = Ever Ready Case. The back section fits the body and the front sections clip to it and cover the lens. The back attaches to the tripod socket which isn't as good as the M series cases, but it's not too bad. I find these cases great for going out with just one or two lenses (the other in a pocket or bum bag) and having some weather and knock protection. The best case ever is of course the one that fits my MX with 40mm f/2.8 like a glove. Beautiful! Nick -Original Message- From: "Jack Davis"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06/12/04 17:50:01 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MZ-S - new to me Nick, Would use please educate me as to what you mean by "..ERC, small and medium fronts" and how they relate to lens mounts? Thanks, Jack --- Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to the MZ-S owners club! I think it's a > great camera, especially with A and M prime lenses. > I wish the control dial was slightly less stiff so I > could turn it with one finger, and that it showed > the aperture in the viewfinder and imprinted on the > film with A lenses in Av mode, but othe than that > it's great. > > I have the BG-10 grip but only occasionally use it. > I've never gotten to grips (pun not intended) with > using it in vertical mode. The shutter button is > just too far down. It's useful for the infrared, but > that should've been built into the body. I used it > the other night though. I had been taken a series of > shots of children receiving presentations using the > MZ-S and the 24-90 FA. After about 45 shots in 20 > minutes the AF started to slow down, but the > batteries were not showing as low. Putting the grip > on solved the problem, so I reckon the poor little > CR2s were struggling with the load even though they > had a full charge. > > Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC > and the small and medium fronts. The first is great > for the primes, and the latter for the 24-90. That > doesn't see much action though. > > Nick > > -Original Message- > From: "Bob Sullivan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 06/12/04 00:02:08 > To: > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MZ-S - new to me > > I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm > film line. > (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the > film line, but whatever...) > > It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a > modern Super Program. > The functions are similar, but updated with > autofocus. The weight is > a bit more than a Super Program, but less than > an LX. Fit and finish > are great, but not waterproof. > > I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll > learn to live with it. > The sound of the shutter/winder is different > too. It seems much > quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel > less mirror vibration > too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps > winder, and that I now > have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use > with my FA lenses. I > took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. > > Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack > or GG60 grid screen? > > The companion digital MZ-D would have been one > great camera! > Sorry we all missed it. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
RE: MZ-S - new to me
Nick, Would use please educate me as to what you mean by "..ERC, small and medium fronts" and how they relate to lens mounts? Thanks, Jack --- Nick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to the MZ-S owners club! I think it's a > great camera, especially with A and M prime lenses. > I wish the control dial was slightly less stiff so I > could turn it with one finger, and that it showed > the aperture in the viewfinder and imprinted on the > film with A lenses in Av mode, but othe than that > it's great. > > I have the BG-10 grip but only occasionally use it. > I've never gotten to grips (pun not intended) with > using it in vertical mode. The shutter button is > just too far down. It's useful for the infrared, but > that should've been built into the body. I used it > the other night though. I had been taken a series of > shots of children receiving presentations using the > MZ-S and the 24-90 FA. After about 45 shots in 20 > minutes the AF started to slow down, but the > batteries were not showing as low. Putting the grip > on solved the problem, so I reckon the poor little > CR2s were struggling with the load even though they > had a full charge. > > Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC > and the small and medium fronts. The first is great > for the primes, and the latter for the 24-90. That > doesn't see much action though. > > Nick > > -Original Message- > From: "Bob Sullivan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 06/12/04 00:02:08 > To: > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MZ-S - new to me > > I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm > film line. > (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the > film line, but whatever...) > > It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a > modern Super Program. > The functions are similar, but updated with > autofocus. The weight is > a bit more than a Super Program, but less than > an LX. Fit and finish > are great, but not waterproof. > > I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll > learn to live with it. > The sound of the shutter/winder is different > too. It seems much > quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel > less mirror vibration > too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps > winder, and that I now > have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use > with my FA lenses. I > took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. > > Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack > or GG60 grid screen? > > The companion digital MZ-D would have been one > great camera! > Sorry we all missed it. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
Re: MZ-S - new to me
Hello Nick, Just a tip - When I owned two of them I found that the dial rotated smoothly when pulled rather than pushed. So the technique is to lightly pull from top to bottom on one side of the dial or other with your thumb instead of pushing against it. Try it - you'll be surprised how it suddenly works easily. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, December 6, 2004, 9:05:56 AM, you wrote: NC> Welcome to the MZ-S owners club! I think it's a great camera, NC> especially with A and M prime lenses. I wish the control dial was NC> slightly less stiff so I could turn it with one finger, and that NC> it showed the aperture in the viewfinder and imprinted on the film NC> with A lenses in Av mode, but othe than that it's great. NC> I have the BG-10 grip but only occasionally use it. I've NC> never gotten to grips (pun not intended) with using it in vertical NC> mode. The shutter button is just too far down. It's useful for the NC> infrared, but that should've been built into the body. I used it NC> the other night though. I had been taken a series of shots of NC> children receiving presentations using the MZ-S and the 24-90 FA. NC> After about 45 shots in 20 minutes the AF started to slow down, NC> but the batteries were not showing as low. Putting the grip on NC> solved the problem, so I reckon the poor little CR2s were NC> struggling with the load even though they had a full charge. NC> Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC and the NC> small and medium fronts. The first is great for the primes, and NC> the latter for the 24-90. That doesn't see much action though. NC> Nick NC> -Original Message- NC> From: "Bob Sullivan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NC> Sent: 06/12/04 00:02:08 NC> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NC> Subject: MZ-S - new to me NC> I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. NC> (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but whatever...) NC> It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. NC> The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is NC> a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish NC> are great, but not waterproof. NC> I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. NC> The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much NC> quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration NC> too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now NC> have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I NC> took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. NC> Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? NC> The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! NC> Sorry we all missed it. NC> Regards, Bob S.
RE: MZ-S - new to me
Welcome to the MZ-S owners club! I think it's a great camera, especially with A and M prime lenses. I wish the control dial was slightly less stiff so I could turn it with one finger, and that it showed the aperture in the viewfinder and imprinted on the film with A lenses in Av mode, but othe than that it's great. I have the BG-10 grip but only occasionally use it. I've never gotten to grips (pun not intended) with using it in vertical mode. The shutter button is just too far down. It's useful for the infrared, but that should've been built into the body. I used it the other night though. I had been taken a series of shots of children receiving presentations using the MZ-S and the 24-90 FA. After about 45 shots in 20 minutes the AF started to slow down, but the batteries were not showing as low. Putting the grip on solved the problem, so I reckon the poor little CR2s were struggling with the load even though they had a full charge. Generally I prefer the MZ-S alone. I've got the ERC and the small and medium fronts. The first is great for the primes, and the latter for the 24-90. That doesn't see much action though. Nick -Original Message- From: "Bob Sullivan"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 06/12/04 00:02:08 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: MZ-S - new to me I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but whatever...) It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish are great, but not waterproof. I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! Sorry we all missed it. Regards, Bob S.
RE: MZ-S - new to me
Lucky you... (I had to sell mine to finance the *ist D). I can relate to the comparison to the Super Program. Nice concept. I missed the Z-1 like functionality of the *ist D, thoug (aperture control from the body), having used then PZ-1 and PZ-1p for 12 years. I totally agree about the MZ-D - brilliant design and build quality. The battery grip not too expensive in Geramny: http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/psm_frontend/main.asp?suche=Pentax+BG-10&x=4 2&y=8 Look at these: http://www.mcbaincamera.com/SLR/pentax/accBG10.htm http://www.onecall.com/PID_13684.htm http://focuscamera.com/prods/964592364.asp Tou'll love the grip. It really completes this camera. Especially, the vertical release is excellent. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 6. december 2004 01:02 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: MZ-S - new to me I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but whatever...) It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish are great, but not waterproof. I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! Sorry we all missed it. Regards, Bob S.
Re: MZ-S - new to me
Hi Bob, Great choice of camera. you won't be disappointed. I too shoot with an MZ-S and love it. The BG10 is a really nice addon and improves the handling substantially. Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but whatever...) It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish are great, but not waterproof. I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! Sorry we all missed it. Regards, Bob S.
MZ-S - new to me
I picked up a used MZ-S, as the last of the 35mm film line. (I suppose the *ist is the probable end of the film line, but whatever...) It is a really nice camera. It remindes me of a modern Super Program. The functions are similar, but updated with autofocus. The weight is a bit more than a Super Program, but less than an LX. Fit and finish are great, but not waterproof. I don't like the viewfinder very much, but I'll learn to live with it. The sound of the shutter/winder is different too. It seems much quieter than the LX or PZ-1p shutter. I feel less mirror vibration too. The advantage is the built-in 2.5 fps winder, and that I now have something lighter that the PZ-1p to use with my FA lenses. I took the FA50/1.4 for a walk and cut myself. Anybody got a line on a cheap BG-10 battery pack or GG60 grid screen? The companion digital MZ-D would have been one great camera! Sorry we all missed it. Regards, Bob S.
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
Jens - I have an FA* 80-200/2.8 that cost me less than $1000 (used). There are others out there now and then. You have a better chance finding one than getting a 70-210/2.8 anytime soon. Do you really need that extra 10mm on either end? Stan On Jun 4, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Great idea, Dario, except I would prefer a Tokina, if possible! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juni 2004 17:19 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: My new-to-me MZ S! Jens Bladt wrote: I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! Is that possible? That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the like) on the market (including Canon/Nikon/Pentax). It will be a nice addition to my *ist D + DA 16-45mm, I think. Not yet received it, but I'm confident I'll get it within a week or so. Dario Bonazza
RE: My new-to-me MZ S!
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: > Great idea, Dario, except I would prefer a Tokina, if possible! > Tokina is very nice too and it is about 200 Euro cheaper than Sigma here in EU.. It has very good build quality (mainaly metal) and good reputation (although I haven't seen any results from this lens + *istD combo yet).. On Tokina's Japan site they advertise new version of this lens: http://www.tokina.co.jp/atx/4961607633229.html it is interesting, that it won't be available in Minolta mount... -- Best regards Sylwester
RE: My new-to-me MZ S!
I never thought of using continupus mode for group shots - that's a great idea, though. A friend of mine - a photographer - once told me that for group photographs - it's always the first one, that is the best - cause people can't really concentrate for very long! All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juni 2004 19:47 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: My new-to-me MZ S! Jens Bladt asked: > Who really needs more than 2,5 FPS, anyway? I do, for one. That's why I'll sometimes use the PZ-1p (and it's why I put a motor drive on my MX instead of just the power winder). It's not that I'm shooting in continuous mode - I rarely do that. But the PZ-1p is ready to take the next shot in close to half the time that the MZ-S takes. That can make the difference between getting the best shot and just missing it. In any unpredictable situation where precise timing is the most important factor a fast frame rate is a valuable tool. I'd say that anyone doing sports/action or wildlife photography would definitely benefit from having more than 2.5fps. I could see a benefit for some other situations, too - if you're trying to get a one-time group shot (family functions, weddings, etc.) with a large number of people involved, shooting twice as many frames in the same time gives you twice the chance of having a good shot with nobody blinking or yawning.
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
Jens Bladt asked: > Who really needs more than 2,5 FPS, anyway? I do, for one. That's why I'll sometimes use the PZ-1p (and it's why I put a motor drive on my MX instead of just the power winder). It's not that I'm shooting in continuous mode - I rarely do that. But the PZ-1p is ready to take the next shot in close to half the time that the MZ-S takes. That can make the difference between getting the best shot and just missing it. In any unpredictable situation where precise timing is the most important factor a fast frame rate is a valuable tool. I'd say that anyone doing sports/action or wildlife photography would definitely benefit from having more than 2.5fps. I could see a benefit for some other situations, too - if you're trying to get a one-time group shot (family functions, weddings, etc.) with a large number of people involved, shooting twice as many frames in the same time gives you twice the chance of having a good shot with nobody blinking or yawning.
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
I just bought that lens a month ago from Wells Digital for $573.95USD. It's an amazing lens. I used it in conjunction with the Sigma 2x teleconverter for an outdoor concert at night. The viewfinder was so bright that I watched most of the show through the viewfinder. :D ~J. Alejandro Almanza > That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing > around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the > like) on the market (including Canon/Nikon/Pentax). It will be a nice > addition to my *ist D + DA 16-45mm, I think. > Not yet received it, but I'm confident I'll get it within a week or so. > > Dario Bonazza --- End of Original Message ---
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
Dario Bonazza a écrit : Jens Bladt wrote: I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! Is that possible? That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the like) on the market (including Canon/Nikon/Pentax). It will be a nice addition to my *ist D + DA 16-45mm, I think. Not yet received it, but I'm confident I'll get it within a week or so. Good deal, Dario. The Sigma EX 2.8/70-200 is a very good lens (but pretty heavy) and become a nice 105-300 on the *istD; and with the 2x converter a rare 5.6/210-600 !! Michel http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
Jens Bladt wrote: > I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! > Is that possible? That was my need too. I ended up buying an AF Sigma EX 2.8/70-200, costing around $650 and reputed to perform better than any other 70-200 (or the like) on the market (including Canon/Nikon/Pentax). It will be a nice addition to my *ist D + DA 16-45mm, I think. Not yet received it, but I'm confident I'll get it within a week or so. Dario Bonazza
RE: My new-to-me MZ S!
Hello SidB Congratulations. I agree. The MZ-S is a great camera. Wish I had a "D" version, though! The MZ-S also has a similar user interface as the Super A: Turn the aperture and it will switch to Av. Turn it to "A" and the camera will switch to Program Mode. Turn the Time Wheel to "M" and the camera will work in TV mode. Turn both Aperture and Time wheel and the camera will be in Manual Mode. This is a brilliant user interface IMO. The MZ-S work pretty much the same way, except it has Green Button to turn it back into Auto Mode instead of using the Time wheel again. This and the HYP mode of the PZ-1/PZ-1p is what makes Pentax cameras very convenient and truly user friendly. No mode switch is necessary. But I'm having a hard time making my MZ-S compete with the sharpness of my SONY DSC F717 - partly due no slow my zoom lenses, like the SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm. But the autofucus and FPS is very nice in practice - who really needs more than 2,5 FPS, anyway? But, I would like a SMC 2.8/70-210mm - for less than 1000 USD! Is that possible? Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Sid Barras [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. juni 2004 08:06 Til: Pentax discussion Pentax discussion list Emne: My new-to-me MZ S! Hi Group, I've gotten a very nice MZ S plus the battery/vertical shutter release grip, and all I can say is WOW! A great camera. I've used it for a couple of rolls now, too soon to decide its my favorite pentax ever, but I'm leaning that way! There is nothing so far I don't like about it. Quiet shutter and wind/rewind. Easy to use-- I've figured out most of the functions (except the "pentax functions, which have always required the book to decipher) without looking at the manual. Everything I could need is right there, next to my thumb or finger. I like this camera!! And one very interesting thing I've discovered: It is quite close to the super program in size! And that means small-- here's what I've done: Pentax made a leather case to fit the super program with the winder attached to the body. Some of you may have this case-- I've only seen it offered once, and I jumped on it with both feet when it appeared on ebay... But now, that leather case covers my MZ S with the FA 35/2 installed. It's not a perfect fit, I had to take the hood off the lens, but it just goes to illustrate how compact the MZ S is, even with the battery grip installed-- keep in mind this is the MZ S body + the bg grip and the 35 lens- very close to the physical dimensions of the super program and winder... and it is definitely lighter than the superprogram... Sid B
Re: My new-to-me MZ S!
Congrats on the film camera. The last Pentax camera I got was the PZ1-p. The MZ S is small compared to the PZ1-P. Jim A. > From: Sid Barras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 01:05:55 -0500 > To: Pentax discussion Pentax discussion list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: My new-to-me MZ S! > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 02:06:29 -0400 > > Hi Group, > I've gotten a very nice MZ S plus the battery/vertical shutter release > grip, and all I can say is WOW! A great camera. I've used it for a > couple of rolls now, too soon to decide its my favorite pentax ever, > but I'm leaning that way! There is nothing so far I don't like about > it. > Quiet shutter and wind/rewind. > Easy to use-- I've figured out most of the functions (except the > "pentax functions, which have always required the book to decipher) > without looking at the manual. > Everything I could need is right there, next to my thumb or finger. I > like this camera!! > > And one very interesting thing I've discovered: It is quite close to > the super program in size! And that means small-- here's what I've > done: > Pentax made a leather case to fit the super program with the winder > attached to the body. Some of you may have this case-- I've only seen > it offered once, and I jumped on it with both feet when it appeared on > ebay... But now, that leather case covers my MZ S with the FA 35/2 > installed. It's not a perfect fit, I had to take the hood off the lens, > but it just goes to illustrate how compact the MZ S is, even with the > battery grip installed-- keep in mind this is the MZ S body + the bg > grip and the 35 lens- very close to the physical dimensions of the > super program and winder... and it is definitely lighter than the > superprogram... > Sid B >
My new-to-me MZ S!
Hi Group, I've gotten a very nice MZ S plus the battery/vertical shutter release grip, and all I can say is WOW! A great camera. I've used it for a couple of rolls now, too soon to decide its my favorite pentax ever, but I'm leaning that way! There is nothing so far I don't like about it. Quiet shutter and wind/rewind. Easy to use-- I've figured out most of the functions (except the "pentax functions, which have always required the book to decipher) without looking at the manual. Everything I could need is right there, next to my thumb or finger. I like this camera!! And one very interesting thing I've discovered: It is quite close to the super program in size! And that means small-- here's what I've done: Pentax made a leather case to fit the super program with the winder attached to the body. Some of you may have this case-- I've only seen it offered once, and I jumped on it with both feet when it appeared on ebay... But now, that leather case covers my MZ S with the FA 35/2 installed. It's not a perfect fit, I had to take the hood off the lens, but it just goes to illustrate how compact the MZ S is, even with the battery grip installed-- keep in mind this is the MZ S body + the bg grip and the 35 lens- very close to the physical dimensions of the super program and winder... and it is definitely lighter than the superprogram... Sid B
Re: New to me: Lester Dine PK/A 105mm f2.8 Macro, Pentax PK/A 35-70mm f4
its a kiron or vivitar excellent - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: New to me: Lester Dine PK/A 105mm f2.8 Macro, Pentax PK/A 35-70mm f4 > > > Lon Williamson wrote: > > > > Just got back from the local camera swap. > > > > Passed up a very nice K2 body, but did get: > > Lester Dine PK/A 105mm f2.8 Macro > > Pentax PK/A 35-70mm f4 > > > > Comments on either lens? I only went to buy some > > film and a couple of hoods, but there they WERE, dammit. > > > > Is the Dine a rebaged Kiron? > > Thanks for any input. > > > > -Lon > > You'll like that 35-70 f/4.0. > Constant aperture, _and_ a great macro setup at 70mm! > I just got mine, but I've been reading about it, and look forward to > trying it out. > > I also have the Pentax-A 35-80mm 1:4 - 5.6. I took a lot of photos > with it recently and love the range...if it turns out to be a good > lens, it will accompany me everywhere, and I'll keep packing the > primes as spares! > > Know nothing about the Lester Dine. Sorry. > > One out of two ain't bad... > > keith whaley > >
Re: New to me: Lester Dine PK/A 105mm f2.8 Macro, Pentax PK/A 35-70mm f4
In a message dated 12/1/02 7:47:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Is the Dine a rebaged Kiron? Thanks for any input. -Lon >> My understanding is that the Dine is the exceptional Kiron lens. It is an excellent 105mm macro lens. I just recently got a PK version after craving one for many years. A friend has used the Kiron on his minolta equipment and got outstanding results. It is an exceptional lens both in image quality and build quality. You will not be disappointed... Vic
New to me
I had a customer drop off a one time use Kodak camera this morning. When I opened it to remove the cassette, it was, naturally ISO 800, but contained 39 exposures instead of the usual 27. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
And the answer is: Yes it does. But, the real beauty of the FA* 85mm f/1.4 is the fact that it has great ability for available light photography. If you need to use the RTF, just take off the hood. If you're a wedding shooter, where 99% of your indoor shooting is with flash, then you'd probably be better off with the 77mm Limited lens. You'll probably be doing most of your shooting, with flash, at around f/5.6, anyway. Using the Metz will work fine, too. I use a Metz 45CT4, a Quantum Turbo battery, and a Sto-fen Omnibounce regularly. Very nice results with the FA* 85mm f/1.4. Try it. You'll like it. It'll build up your muscles and endurance, too. :-) Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Hood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4 > > > What I meant to say was: does the rtf flash on the PZ1-P cast > a shadow when > using this lens with the hood, and if so, at what distances? > I have a Metz > that I can use, but I was hoping to use the camera without it > occasionally. > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
What I meant to say was: does the rtf flash on the PZ1-P cast a shadow when using this lens with the hood, and if so, at what distances? I have a Metz that I can use, but I was hoping to use the camera without it occasionally. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
Hello... Vignetting?...with the RTF and the hood on Z-1p...YES...without the hood on Z-1p...NOPE! I've never seen any Vignetting what-so-ever as long as I was not using the hood. D.S. PS."(he bought the 77 limited)" ...And Loving It Now where is that 31 going to fit in my lowepro b... -Original Message- From: Cameron Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: April 3, 2001 8:44 PM Subject: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4 (he bought the 77 limited). Anyway, I am looking forward to getting some great shots with it. >I would like any comments or suggestions PDML members have, and I would >especially like to know if the onboard flash on my PZ1-P will vignette with >this lens. I see nothing about that in the z's manual, but that's not >surprising, and I don't get the inappropriate lens warning on the screen; so >does that mean it works? Comments greatly appreciated. > >Cameron > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
Cameron, I haven't the FA 85/1.4, but I would suspect it vignette's with the flash. The FA 28-70/2.8 does for sure and it is about the same size as the FA 85. Regards, Bob S. << I finally picked up this lens this afternoon after paying off little bits each month. It's in immaculate shape, and I even know the previous owner (D.S. on this list), so I know it was not abused (he bought the 77 limited). Anyway, I am looking forward to getting some great shots with it. I would like any comments or suggestions PDML members have, and I would especially like to know if the onboard flash on my PZ1-P will vignette with this lens. I see nothing about that in the z's manual, but that's not surprising, and I don't get the inappropriate lens warning on the screen; so does that mean it works? Comments greatly appreciated. >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
Are you in Vancouver? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cameron Hood Sent: April 3, 2001 8:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4 I finally picked up this lens this afternoon after paying off little bits each month. It's in immaculate shape, and I even know the previous owner (D.S. on this list), so I know it was not abused (he bought the 77 limited). Anyway, I am looking forward to getting some great shots with it. I would like any comments or suggestions PDML members have, and I would especially like to know if the onboard flash on my PZ1-P will vignette with this lens. I see nothing about that in the z's manual, but that's not surprising, and I don't get the inappropriate lens warning on the screen; so does that mean it works? Comments greatly appreciated. Cameron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New (to me) FA* 85mm f=1.4
I finally picked up this lens this afternoon after paying off little bits each month. It's in immaculate shape, and I even know the previous owner (D.S. on this list), so I know it was not abused (he bought the 77 limited). Anyway, I am looking forward to getting some great shots with it. I would like any comments or suggestions PDML members have, and I would especially like to know if the onboard flash on my PZ1-P will vignette with this lens. I see nothing about that in the z's manual, but that's not surprising, and I don't get the inappropriate lens warning on the screen; so does that mean it works? Comments greatly appreciated. Cameron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .