Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread David Mann
On May 23, 2014, at 11:52 pm, John  wrote:

> Speaking of trains, I'm reminded of a little poem:
> 
> They met on a bridge at midnight
> They shall never meet again
> For she was a northbound cow
> And he was a southbound train
> 
> Thank you. I'll be here all week.

I think someone posted that in response to this photo I showed a while ago...

(warning, slightly gruesome)

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/765/#peso

I must get around to working on the rest of those old photos.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Yeah I saw that, very annoying ...

On 5/23/2014 14:39, John wrote:

...snip...

The biggest complaint I'm seeing about Firefox (especially in the
latest update) is how much the developers are trying to make it look
like Chrome. In the latest Firefox update much that was previously
visible (like tool bars & menus) are now hidden by default, which makes
me think Chrome may have those hidden tool bars as well.

Happily, I still see my tool bar but there is also a menu in almost the
same place as in Chrome.

oh well

ann


On 5/23/2014 9:52 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

John - really - I know how to do this stuff in firefox..
My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -
I know my firefox well, no problem there

On 5/23/2014 07:52, John wrote:

Look for "Tools" on the menu, if Chrome defaults menus to on.

One of the items on that menu should be "Options" or "Preferences"
(basing this on Firefox & Thunderbird menus).

On 5/23/2014 12:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..
I don't have google+ , I don't use gmail, I don't log in to Google..
(if that is relevant)
I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance

btw - I just left Twitter.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google
Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior
she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's
"enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)












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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread John

I know that in Firefox if menus are turned off or hidden there's a
couple of spots on the remaining tool bars you can right click to
"customize" and turn the menus back on. You just have to keep right
clicking until you find one of those sweet spots.

Chrome may do the same thing.

The biggest complaint I'm seeing about Firefox (especially in the
latest update) is how much the developers are trying to make it look
like Chrome. In the latest Firefox update much that was previously
visible (like tool bars & menus) are now hidden by default, which makes
me think Chrome may have those hidden tool bars as well.

On 5/23/2014 9:52 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

John - really - I know how to do this stuff in firefox..
My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -
I know my firefox well, no problem there

On 5/23/2014 07:52, John wrote:

Look for "Tools" on the menu, if Chrome defaults menus to on.

One of the items on that menu should be "Options" or "Preferences"
(basing this on Firefox & Thunderbird menus).

On 5/23/2014 12:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..
I don't have google+ , I don't use gmail, I don't log in to Google..
(if that is relevant)
I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance

btw - I just left Twitter.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google
Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)










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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Eric Featherstone
No problem.

On 23 May 2014 15:49, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> ERic - I actually wrote the "oy no wonder" mail before I saw yours...
> It was about the only think I didn't click on earlier.
>
> HAVe to do some exploring
>
> thanks
> ann
>
>
>
> On 5/23/2014 09:58, Eric Featherstone wrote:
>>
>> On 23 May 2014 14:52, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -
>>
>>
>> It's the icon with the three horizontal bars at the top right. Then
>> either 'Settings' or ('Tools' then 'Extensions' )
>>
>> Or you can get to the same place via these links:
>> chrome://settings/
>> chrome://extensions/
>>
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ERic - I actually wrote the "oy no wonder" mail before I saw yours...
It was about the only think I didn't click on earlier.

HAVe to do some exploring

thanks
ann


On 5/23/2014 09:58, Eric Featherstone wrote:

On 23 May 2014 14:52, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -


It's the icon with the three horizontal bars at the top right. Then
either 'Settings' or ('Tools' then 'Extensions' )

Or you can get to the same place via these links:
chrome://settings/
chrome://extensions/



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 23 May 2014 14:52, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -

It's the icon with the three horizontal bars at the top right. Then
either 'Settings' or ('Tools' then 'Extensions' )

Or you can get to the same place via these links:
chrome://settings/
chrome://extensions/

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

John - really - I know how to do this stuff in firefox..
My google chrome browser window doesnt have a tool bar -
I know my firefox well, no problem there

On 5/23/2014 07:52, John wrote:

Look for "Tools" on the menu, if Chrome defaults menus to on.

One of the items on that menu should be "Options" or "Preferences"
(basing this on Firefox & Thunderbird menus).

On 5/23/2014 12:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..
I don't have google+ , I don't use gmail, I don't log in to Google..
(if that is relevant)
I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance

btw - I just left Twitter.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google
Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)








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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I think something must be hiding the menu you mention, steve
it's no biggie - mainly it's just annoying to try to copy and paste
an Http string from an email that goes across several lines of my email
I make mouse-o's as well as typo's :-)

ann


On 5/23/2014 02:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 22:37 Ann Sanfedele wrote

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..


i was just guessing at reasons why Chrome behaves so weirdly for you …


I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance


i was suggesting in Chrome's Window menu, choose Extensions and see
what's listed (maybe nothing); something is making Chrome act strangely
for you, but it's looking like i can't diagnose it remotely



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread John

On 5/22/2014 4:58 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 22 May 2014, at 18:56, "David J Brooks"  wrote:


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter


My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".


The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.



Spoiler alert!

It was all a train of thoughts and images experienced during sleep, a vision
Something only imaginary
A distant hope or ideal, probably unattainable
A state of mental abstraction
An extremely pleasant person or thing (informal)




Speaking of trains, I'm reminded of a little poem:

They met on a bridge at midnight
They shall never meet again
For she was a northbound cow
And he was a southbound train

Thank you. I'll be here all week.


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread John

Look for "Tools" on the menu, if Chrome defaults menus to on.

One of the items on that menu should be "Options" or "Preferences"
(basing this on Firefox & Thunderbird menus).

On 5/23/2014 12:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..
I don't have google+ , I don't use gmail, I don't log in to Google..
(if that is relevant)
I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance

btw - I just left Twitter.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google
Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)






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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-23 Thread John

If it works anything like Firefox, you turn all of them off and see if
that makes the problem goes away.

Then turn them back on one at a time until the problem comes back. The
last one you turned on before the problem returns is the bad guy.

On 5/22/2014 4:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

ah.. and when I see the list how will I know the perp?
Will it be wearing a red carnation?


On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't
let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)






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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-22 22:37 Ann Sanfedele wrote

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..


i was just guessing at reasons why Chrome behaves so weirdly for you …


I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance


i was suggesting in Chrome's Window menu, choose Extensions and see what's 
listed (maybe nothing); something is making Chrome act strangely for you, but 
it's looking like i can't diagnose it remotely


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Steve
I'm not following this..
I haven't configured Chrome at all in any way that I can remember..
I don't have google+ , I don't use gmail, I don't log in to Google..
(if that is relevant)
I don't see anything on a tool bar (as there is in firefox) to
change preferences, for instance

btw - I just left Twitter.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)




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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ken Waller

The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.


For a clue...

the butler did it in the library with a candlestick !



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- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

Subject: Re: OT - Twitter



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter


My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".


The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.

Dave


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 22 May 2014, at 18:56, "David J Brooks"  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>> 
>>> I've read twitter
>> 
>> My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
>> English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
>> that".
> 
> The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.
> 

Spoiler alert!

It was all a train of thoughts and images experienced during sleep, a vision
Something only imaginary
A distant hope or ideal, probably unattainable
A state of mental abstraction
An extremely pleasant person or thing (informal)


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 22 May 2014, at 18:48, "Mark Roberts"  wrote:
> 
> P.J. Alling wrote:
> 
>> See, this is what passes for discourse on twitter, and I believe that 
>> you've both proved my point, so thank you for your support.
> 
> That's like saying books are stupid: You can prove the statement true
> if you cherry pick the right books. The same is true with Twitter.
> It's generalizations that are stupid.
> 

Well, some of them...

B

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-22 14:13 Ann Sanfedele wrote

ah.. and when I see the list how will I know the perp?
Will it be wearing a red carnation?


metaphorically speaking, perhaps — read the descriptions and use intuition; 
Chrome should work fine without any extensions, so if there's anything there 
seemingly related to blocking or privacy, i would stop and think about why you 
added it, possibly do a search on it to see if there are known problems, or 
just try disabling it temporarily and seeing if you can load twitter.com



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well I finally got my reset password letter and decided just to chuck 
it.. at least for a while.. too much else going on, too many other 
changes I have to cope with already... but my 1980's self would be

flyign through it with glee.

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:52, Mark Roberts wrote:

steve harley wrote:


Twitter is what you make of it — i rarely tweet, usually incomprehensible
outbursts, but it's a terrific resource for certain types of information


Much like Facebook – mostly frivolous but invaluable some times.
Without Facebook I never would have caught that student of mine who
turned in work from an on line tutorial.




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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele

ah.. and when I see the list how will I know the perp?
Will it be wearing a red carnation?


On 5/22/2014 15:18, steve harley wrote:

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't
let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker"
extension or something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's
describing (Ann, go to Window > Extensions and look at what's "enabled"
in that list — you may find the culprit)




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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I think I should just go back to firefox as default browser and go to 
chrome for special stuff where it works better.

(namely, Words with friends and printing labels from ebay for shipping)

In fact I might just do that right now..

ann

On 5/22/2014 15:07, John wrote:

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.

On 5/22/2014 2:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok - here's the thing... I figured that with PDML, FAcebook (especially
my words with friends)crossword games lists, cafepress, ebay, etc
Twitter would just be something else to remember to look at and I'm not
sure i did it right anyway... the thing is..
I can't even get on now to get off of it :-(

I'm getting a refusal from google chrome to get me there (much like
refusals to go to dropbox) so I tried to log in on firefox.. I did the
"I forgot my password" thing, didn't get email - and yes I checked
my spam folder.

what's a girl to do?  Is there a voice help thing somewhere?
I'm @annsaniam  (I think) and when I did log in it says Ann
Sanfedele@annsaniam.  I don't really understand #tags, either.

suggestions any twitteries?

Of course I did get on just hoping it would somehow help my
getting more exposure for me to make money and occasinally
to get into the conversation on NPR.

ann the easily confused

On 5/22/2014 14:20, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


For every pithy comment,
there's a ton of dross


Er, doesn't it kind of matter who you're interested in reading, and
(ipso facto) who you follow? Funny that because of the people I follow,
the signal-to-noise ratio is very low. Maybe you should have been a bit
more careful in choosing before pressing 'follow' 







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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-22 13:52 Mark Roberts wrote

steve harley wrote:


Twitter is what you make of it — i rarely tweet, usually incomprehensible
outbursts, but it's a terrific resource for certain types of information


Much like Facebook – mostly frivolous but invaluable some times.
Without Facebook I never would have caught that student of mine who
turned in work from an on line tutorial.


i check my Twitter feed a few times a day, but i only go to Facebook only once 
a week or so, to check on neighborhood organization and plant societies i 
belong to, for things that no one thought to post on their "real" sites


i prefer Twitter because there's no buy-in — you don't have to "like", only 
"follow" (there's a functional difference behind the terminology); for some 
lines of work i think Facebook has become a necessity though; i think i would 
like the mono-directional aspect of Google+ circles too, if there were not so 
much baggage


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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
steve harley wrote:

>Twitter is what you make of it — i rarely tweet, usually incomprehensible 
>outbursts, but it's a terrific resource for certain types of information

Much like Facebook – mostly frivolous but invaluable some times.
Without Facebook I never would have caught that student of mine who
turned in work from an on line tutorial.
 
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-22 24:06 Steve Cottrell wrote

Mark writing about his videos of travelling to GFM made me think (as it
always does!) that there may be some on the list who do Twitter. I tend
to use it on a professional basis with a bit of humour thrown in
(keeping my FB stuff just general junk) and regularly post pics and
updates of work environments along with retweets from colleagues in
filming and news. If anyone's interested, by all means have a follow -
never dull in my job!


i'll put you on a list to look in on now and then; my actual follows are 
usually for local, timely things, and a few news sources, plus some saved 
hashtag searches like #cowx (which was rather busy yesterday — up to 6 inches 
of hail and tornadoes in Denver and to the east)


Twitter is what you make of it — i rarely tweet, usually incomprehensible 
outbursts, but it's a terrific resource for certain types of information



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-22 13:07 John wrote

Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google Chrome won't
let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.


i think Ann's Chrome must be using a very restrictive "blocker" extension or 
something like that; it's not normal Chrome behavior she's describing (Ann, go 
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the culprit)



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread John
Don't know anything about Twitter, but the number of places Google 
Chrome won't let you go suggests to me you should get rid of Google Chrome.


On 5/22/2014 2:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok - here's the thing... I figured that with PDML, FAcebook (especially
my words with friends)crossword games lists, cafepress, ebay, etc
Twitter would just be something else to remember to look at and I'm not
sure i did it right anyway... the thing is..
I can't even get on now to get off of it :-(

I'm getting a refusal from google chrome to get me there (much like
refusals to go to dropbox) so I tried to log in on firefox.. I did the
"I forgot my password" thing, didn't get email - and yes I checked
my spam folder.

what's a girl to do?  Is there a voice help thing somewhere?
I'm @annsaniam  (I think) and when I did log in it says Ann
Sanfedele@annsaniam.  I don't really understand #tags, either.

suggestions any twitteries?

Of course I did get on just hoping it would somehow help my
getting more exposure for me to make money and occasinally
to get into the conversation on NPR.

ann the easily confused

On 5/22/2014 14:20, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


For every pithy comment,
there's a ton of dross


Er, doesn't it kind of matter who you're interested in reading, and
(ipso facto) who you follow? Funny that because of the people I follow,
the signal-to-noise ratio is very low. Maybe you should have been a bit
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread John

On 5/22/2014 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter


My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".




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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread John

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/04/20/090420ta_talk_trudeau

On 5/22/2014 1:08 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and
lots of time to say it.


#dicktard



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Alan C

Absolute twits.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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To: pentax list
Subject: Re: OT - Twitter

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


For every pithy comment,
there's a ton of dross


Er, doesn't it kind of matter who you're interested in reading, and
(ipso facto) who you follow? Funny that because of the people I follow,
the signal-to-noise ratio is very low. Maybe you should have been a bit
more careful in choosing before pressing 'follow' 

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Ok - here's the thing... I figured that with PDML, FAcebook (especially 
my words with friends)crossword games lists, cafepress, ebay, etc 
Twitter would just be something else to remember to look at and I'm not 
sure i did it right anyway... the thing is..

I can't even get on now to get off of it :-(

I'm getting a refusal from google chrome to get me there (much like 
refusals to go to dropbox) so I tried to log in on firefox.. I did the

"I forgot my password" thing, didn't get email - and yes I checked
my spam folder.

what's a girl to do?  Is there a voice help thing somewhere?
I'm @annsaniam  (I think) and when I did log in it says Ann 
Sanfedele@annsaniam.  I don't really understand #tags, either.


suggestions any twitteries?

Of course I did get on just hoping it would somehow help my
getting more exposure for me to make money and occasinally
to get into the conversation on NPR.

ann the easily confused

On 5/22/2014 14:20, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


For every pithy comment,
there's a ton of dross


Er, doesn't it kind of matter who you're interested in reading, and
(ipso facto) who you follow? Funny that because of the people I follow,
the signal-to-noise ratio is very low. Maybe you should have been a bit
more careful in choosing before pressing 'follow' 



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/5/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The Twitter feeds I follow include the Paris Review and the London
>Review of Books. Both frequently have useful and concise pointers to
>articles that I would otherwise miss. And never any dross. For all the
>undoubted silliness in Cotty's Twitter feed, he and other journalists
>find it a valuable tool for business purposes, keeping clients and
>peers appraised of important matters. I know of physicians who use it
>similarly

I thought I said that ;-)

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

> For every pithy comment, 
>there's a ton of dross

Er, doesn't it kind of matter who you're interested in reading, and
(ipso facto) who you follow? Funny that because of the people I follow,
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

>On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>>
I've read twitter
>>>
>>> My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
>>> English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
>>> that".
>>
>> The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.
>
>Everybody dies.

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

>Not all of it, a sampling, enough really.  For every pithy comment, 
>there's a ton of dross, and it's quite enjoyable to read the ODE at 
>times, at least it can be educational, not that I expect that most 
>students actually open to a random page and read a few citations for 
>fun.  There's one thing I can say about the OED that I can't say about 
>twitter, no dross.

The point is your statement that you have "read Twitter" is as valid
as the student's claim to have read the OED. For every academic who
uses the OED there is indeed plenty of superfluous material (and, yes,
even errors), as far as far as his/her individual area of expertise is
concerned, but they have the sense not to dismiss the whole simply
because they aren't interested in some of the parts.

The Twitter feeds I follow include the Paris Review and the London
Review of Books. Both frequently have useful and concise pointers to
articles that I would otherwise miss. And never any dross. For all the
undoubted silliness in Cotty's Twitter feed, he and other journalists
find it a valuable tool for business purposes, keeping clients and
peers appraised of important matters. I know of physicians who use it
similarly.

If you're going to write off any medium that supplies dross as well as
value I recommend you delete all web browsers from your computer, too.
 
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com

On 5/22/2014 2:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On 5/22/2014 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


See, this is what passes for discourse on twitter, and I believe that
you've both proved my point, so thank you for your support.

That's like saying books are stupid: You can prove the statement true
if you cherry pick the right books. The same is true with Twitter.
It's generalizations that are stupid.

Read my reply to your the other branch.


I really must learn to proof read before I hit send.

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling

On 5/22/2014 2:06 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter

My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".

The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.

Everybody dies.


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1. Arousing or tending to arouse horror; dreadful: "War is beyond all 
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>>I've read twitter
>>
>> My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
>> English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
>> that".
>
> The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling

On 5/22/2014 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


See, this is what passes for discourse on twitter, and I believe that
you've both proved my point, so thank you for your support.

That's like saying books are stupid: You can prove the statement true
if you cherry pick the right books. The same is true with Twitter.
It's generalizations that are stupid.
  

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 5/22/2014 1:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter

My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".

The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.

Dave

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Not all of it, a sampling, enough really.  For every pithy comment, 
there's a ton of dross, and it's quite enjoyable to read the ODE at 
times, at least it can be educational, not that I expect that most 
students actually open to a random page and read a few citations for 
fun.  There's one thing I can say about the OED that I can't say about 
twitter, no dross.


On 5/22/2014 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


I've read twitter

My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
that".
  



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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> P.J. Alling wrote:
>
>>I've read twitter
>
> My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
> English Dictionary to one of her students he said "Oh yes, I've read
> that".

The last page of my copy was removed so i have no idea how it ended.

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

>I've read twitter

My mother was an English professor. When she mentioned the Oxford
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

>See, this is what passes for discourse on twitter, and I believe that 
>you've both proved my point, so thank you for your support.

That's like saying books are stupid: You can prove the statement true
if you cherry pick the right books. The same is true with Twitter.
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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling
See, this is what passes for discourse on twitter, and I believe that 
you've both proved my point, so thank you for your support.


On 5/22/2014 1:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Steve Cottrell wrote:


On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and
lots of time to say it.

#dicktard

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and 
>>lots of time to say it.
>
>#dicktard

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling

On 5/22/2014 1:08 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and
lots of time to say it.

#dicktard



I've read twitter, you can't prove me wrong.

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/5/14, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and 
>lots of time to say it.

#dicktard

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/5/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>You might inspire me to look at my twitter stream more often...

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Twitter is for people with short attention spans not a lot to say and 
lots of time to say it.



On 5/22/2014 10:04 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I just got on a month or so ago only to enter a local poetry contest - 
I didn't win. I followed a couple of friends and saw a couple follow 
me.. I'm not sure Ill stick around.  Can't keep track of it all -
and I'm reall not known for being able to say anything in under 140 
words, let alone 140 characters.

If I stay there I'll be following ya

ann
@annsaniam

On 5/22/2014 02:06, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Mark writing about his videos of travelling to GFM made me think (as it
always does!) that there may be some on the list who do Twitter. I tend
to use it on a professional basis with a bit of humour thrown in
(keeping my FB stuff just general junk) and regularly post pics and
updates of work environments along with retweets from colleagues in
filming and news. If anyone's interested, by all means have a follow -
never dull in my job!

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I just got on a month or so ago only to enter a local poetry contest - I 
didn't win. I followed a couple of friends and saw a couple follow me.. 
I'm not sure Ill stick around.  Can't keep track of it all -
and I'm reall not known for being able to say anything in under 140 
words, let alone 140 characters.

If I stay there I'll be following ya

ann
@annsaniam

On 5/22/2014 02:06, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Mark writing about his videos of travelling to GFM made me think (as it
always does!) that there may be some on the list who do Twitter. I tend
to use it on a professional basis with a bit of humour thrown in
(keeping my FB stuff just general junk) and regularly post pics and
updates of work environments along with retweets from colleagues in
filming and news. If anyone's interested, by all means have a follow -
never dull in my job!

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Re: OT - Twitter

2014-05-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
You might inspire me to look at my twitter stream more often...

Godfrey


> On May 21, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Mark writing about his videos of travelling to GFM made me think (as it
> always does!) that there may be some on the list who do Twitter. I tend
> to use it on a professional basis with a bit of humour thrown in
> (keeping my FB stuff just general junk) and regularly post pics and
> updates of work environments along with retweets from colleagues in
> filming and news. If anyone's interested, by all means have a follow -
> never dull in my job!
> 
> @seeingeyetv

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OT - Twitter

2014-05-21 Thread Steve Cottrell
Mark writing about his videos of travelling to GFM made me think (as it
always does!) that there may be some on the list who do Twitter. I tend
to use it on a professional basis with a bit of humour thrown in
(keeping my FB stuff just general junk) and regularly post pics and
updates of work environments along with retweets from colleagues in
filming and news. If anyone's interested, by all means have a follow -
never dull in my job!

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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread P. J. Alling

Bob W wrote:
Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.


Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and
  

important as


the Vindolanda letters.
  
It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 


years, first.


Welcome to the internet.
  
Yes but 2000 years?  We'll have much more important things to 
spend our electricity on long before then.





The Vindolanda letters are the Twitterus of the day. "Send more socks, it's
cold up here. Signed, Biggus Dickus"; "Come to my party. Signed, The CO's
Wife". If that's not banality I don't know what is. And yet, that's what
we're interested in. Put on an exhibition about Virgil's Aeneid and you
could probably count the audience on one hand, but the British people,
including me, voted the Vindolanda letters the most interesting and
important historical artifacts we have. That's what Twitter is, too.

Bob
  

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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson
 Bob W  wrote: 
> > > > > > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
> > > > > > instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and

> > > > important as

> > > > > the Vindolanda letters.
> > > > 
> > > > It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 

> > years, first.
> > > 
> > > Welcome to the internet.
> > 
> > Yes but 2000 years?  We'll have much more important things to 
> > spend our electricity on long before then.
> > 
> 
> The Vindolanda letters are the Twitterus of the day. "Send more socks, it's

> cold up here. Signed, Biggus Dickus"; "Come to my party. Signed, The CO's
> Wife". If that's not banality I don't know what is. And yet, that's what
> we're interested in. Put on an exhibition about Virgil's Aeneid and you
> could probably count the audience on one hand, but the British people,
> including me, voted the Vindolanda letters the most interesting and
> important historical artifacts we have. That's what Twitter is, too.


But those tweets are exceedingly rare.  Like the "there's nobody down
here but us wineskins" type graffiti from Pompei, they are
interesting because they show how banal and otherwise human empire
makers actually are.  The accumulated effluvia of the internet,
mostly by and from people whose most important decision is what to
put on their toast this morning, pales into insignificance.


You don't have to worry about what to put on your toast in the morning 
if you stay in bed until noon.


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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W  wrote: 
> > > > > > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
> > > > > > instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and
> > > > important as
> > > > > the Vindolanda letters.
> > > > 
> > > > It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 
> > years, first.
> > > 
> > > Welcome to the internet.
> > 
> > Yes but 2000 years?  We'll have much more important things to 
> > spend our electricity on long before then.
> > 
> 
> The Vindolanda letters are the Twitterus of the day. "Send more socks, it's
> cold up here. Signed, Biggus Dickus"; "Come to my party. Signed, The CO's
> Wife". If that's not banality I don't know what is. And yet, that's what
> we're interested in. Put on an exhibition about Virgil's Aeneid and you
> could probably count the audience on one hand, but the British people,
> including me, voted the Vindolanda letters the most interesting and
> important historical artifacts we have. That's what Twitter is, too.

But those tweets are exceedingly rare.  Like the "there's nobody down here but 
us wineskins" type graffiti from Pompei, they are interesting because they show 
how banal and otherwise human empire makers actually are.  The accumulated 
effluvia of the internet, mostly by and from people whose most important 
decision is what to put on their toast this morning, pales into insignificance.

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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread Bob W
> > > > > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
> > > > > instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> > > > 
> > > > Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and
> > > important as
> > > > the Vindolanda letters.
> > > 
> > > It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 
> years, first.
> > 
> > Welcome to the internet.
> 
> Yes but 2000 years?  We'll have much more important things to 
> spend our electricity on long before then.
> 

The Vindolanda letters are the Twitterus of the day. "Send more socks, it's
cold up here. Signed, Biggus Dickus"; "Come to my party. Signed, The CO's
Wife". If that's not banality I don't know what is. And yet, that's what
we're interested in. Put on an exhibition about Virgil's Aeneid and you
could probably count the audience on one hand, but the British people,
including me, voted the Vindolanda letters the most interesting and
important historical artifacts we have. That's what Twitter is, too.

Bob


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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W  wrote: 
> > > > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the instant, 
> > > > archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> > > 
> > > Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and 
> > important as 
> > > the Vindolanda letters.
> > 
> > It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 years, first.
> 
> Welcome to the internet.

Yes but 2000 years?  We'll have much more important things to spend our 
electricity on long before then.

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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread Bob W
> > > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the instant, 
> > > archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> > 
> > Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and 
> important as 
> > the Vindolanda letters.
> 
> It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 years, first.

Welcome to the internet.

Bob


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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-30 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W  wrote: 
> > >
> > Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
> > instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.
> 
> Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and important as the
> Vindolanda letters.

It will need to be soaked in a cess pit for about 2000 years, first.

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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Responding to the original question:

I use Tweetie. It's reliable and easy to use, there are versions for
both my desktop/laptop computer as well as iPhone/iPod Touch.

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RE: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-29 Thread Bob W
> >
> Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the 
> instant, archived to preserve the banality for posterity.

Someday that Twitter archive could be as fascinating and important as the
Vindolanda letters.

Bob


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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-29 Thread P. J. Alling

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Tim Bray
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, P. J. Alling 
 wrote:
> Why oh why would you want to do that to yourself. Hell why would 
you want to

> use twitter at all...


I find that Twitter enriches my life and helps me do my job. I
entirely understand that others do not. Somehow, those of us who use
it generally manage to avoid dismissive/patronizing comments about
those who don't.  -T



Unfortunately, that has not been my experience with twitter users in 
other places.


Twitter seems to me to be instant messaging, without the instant, 
archived to preserve the banality for posterity.


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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tim Bray

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, P. J. Alling  
wrote:

> Why oh why would you want to do that to yourself. Hell why would you want to
> use twitter at all...


I find that Twitter enriches my life and helps me do my job. I
entirely understand that others do not. Somehow, those of us who use
it generally manage to avoid dismissive/patronizing comments about
those who don't.  -T



Unfortunately, that has not been my experience with twitter users in 
other places.



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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-28 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
I use Twitter to follow news, e.g., pentaxusers, leica_camera,
japanexposures, naraneko (Portuguese) and some photographers who
'tweet'.  I guess I could use other ways to follow the news, but I got
used to this method.

BTW, I am sure that I have nothing important to say, so I don't
'tweet' (I have made seven 'tweets' exchanged with my only allowed
follower, my older brother :-)

My opinion about these kind of 'social networks', if anyone cares, is
that they are a loss of my precious time, but I presume some people
find them useful.  I prefer socializing in a 'café' drinking a coffee
(Portuguese/Italian version), beer, wine, plain water, etc :-)

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 21:34, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> Why oh why would you want to do that to yourself. Hell why would you want to
> use twitter at all...
>
> Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I want to stop using a browser when using Twitter.  Any opinions on a
>> "good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>>
>
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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-28 Thread Tim Bray
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Why oh why would you want to do that to yourself. Hell why would you want to
> use twitter at all...

I find that Twitter enriches my life and helps me do my job. I
entirely understand that others do not. Somehow, those of us who use
it generally manage to avoid dismissive/patronizing comments about
those who don't.  -T

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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Why oh why would you want to do that to yourself. Hell why would you 
want to use twitter at all...


Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote:

Hello!

I want to stop using a browser when using Twitter.  Any opinions on a
"good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?

TIA!

  



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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-27 Thread Bruce Walker

Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote:

Hello!

I want to stop using a browser when using Twitter.  Any opinions on a
"good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?

TIA!



I've also tried a few and ended up with the free client Nambu. Use the 
latest Beta if you want the best feature set.


http://www.nambu.com/

-bmw

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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote:

>Any opinions on a "good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?

"Good Twitter client"

Nope. Just can't wrap my head around that concept.


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Re: OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-27 Thread Tim Bray
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
 wrote:

> I want to stop using a browser when using Twitter.  Any opinions on a
> "good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?

I've tried a few and ended up with Tweetie, http://www.atebits.com/tweetie-mac/

They say it's good on the iPhone too. -T

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OT: Twitter client for Mac OS X

2009-10-27 Thread Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta
Hello!

I want to stop using a browser when using Twitter.  Any opinions on a
"good" Twitter client for Mac OS X?

TIA!

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