Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, at 01:06 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> Not yet.



Well something is certainly eating up the bandwidth. The list archives
became inaccessible on the 12th of this month (as confirmed by Igor) and
something similar has been happening for the past 6 months or so, but
not quite so early in the month.  


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John  wrote:
> > On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >>
> >> Quoting John :
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
> >>> replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
> >>> with additional replies threaded off of it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never
> >> show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth?
> >
> > This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at
> > "infoparrotDOTcom" referencing the PDML pipermail archive at
> > "/2014-June/378524.html". He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials.
> >
> > The link takes me to a "509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded" message from PDML's
> > pipermail.
> >
> > Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive?
> >
> >

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Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015, at 07:37 AM, steve harley wrote:
> On 2015-06-15 18:49 , Brian Walters wrote:
> > Is anyone else experiencing this?
> >
> > For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only
> > way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I
> > haven't see the originals.
> 
> FWIW i'm seeing no such problems via Fastmail; since i have threading
> turned 
> on in Thunderbird, i would see this easily if it were occurring (replies
> are 
> normally nested, so an un-nested message with "Re:" in the subject tips
> me 
> off to missing original messages)


I've reactivated my old Fastmail account and that seems to be working
well - I prefer to use the web-based interface for PDML messages.

By coincidence, the other mail service that was giving me grief suddenly
came good, although those missing posts remain missing.


Cheers

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Re: List Problems

[steve harley]

On 2015-06-15 18:49 , Brian Walters wrote:

Is anyone else experiencing this?

For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only
way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I
haven't see the originals.


FWIW i'm seeing no such problems via Fastmail; since i have threading turned 
on in Thunderbird, i would see this easily if it were occurring (replies are 
normally nested, so an un-nested message with "Re:" in the subject tips me 
off to missing original messages)




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Re: List Problems

[steve harley]

On 2015-06-16 22:48 , David Mann wrote:

Oh yes, of course.  Many years ago I used a mail client that understood those 
headers, but Apple Mail doesn’t so I’d forgotten they exist.  Thanks for the 
reminder.


Apple Mail doesn't automate mailing list subs/unsubs, but it can use the 
List-id header in filters ("rules"); by default the filter setup options 
don't include List-id, but it is easy to add the header ("Edit Header List…" 
in the popup for defining conditions for a rule), and it is the best header 
to use for defining filters for mailing lists (in general, not just PDML)



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Re: List Problems

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Not yet.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:37 AM, John  wrote:
> On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>> Quoting John :
>>>
>>>
>>> I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
>>> replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
>>> with additional replies threaded off of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never
>> show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks).
>>
>>
>>
>
> I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth?
>
> This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at
> "infoparrotDOTcom" referencing the PDML pipermail archive at
> "/2014-June/378524.html". He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials.
>
> The link takes me to a "509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded" message from PDML's
> pipermail.
>
> Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive?
>
>
>
>
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Re: List Problems

[Ken Waller]

Not Here.

-Original Message-
>From: John 

>Subject: Re: List Problems
>
>On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> Quoting John :
>>>
>>> I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
>>> replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
>>> with additional replies threaded off of it.
>>
>>
>> I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never
>> show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks).
>>
>>
>>
>
>I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth?
>
>This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at
>"infoparrotDOTcom" referencing the PDML pipermail archive at
>"/2014-June/378524.html". He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials.
>
>The link takes me to a "509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded" message from PDML's
>pipermail.
>
>Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive?



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Re: List Problems

[John]

On 6/15/2015 10:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting John :


I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
with additional replies threaded off of it.



I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never
show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks).





I wonder if SPAMMERS might be eating up all the PDML server's bandwidth?

This morning I got a strange email from someone I don't know at
"infoparrotDOTcom" referencing the PDML pipermail archive at
"/2014-June/378524.html". He wants me to link to his Lightroom tutorials.

The link takes me to a "509 Bandwith Limit Exceeded" message from PDML's
pipermail.

Did anyone else get SPAM that contains a link to the PDML archive?




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Re: List Problems

[David Mann]

On Jun 17, 2015, at 3:51 am, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is information in 
> the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the mail 
> program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an option 
> "View all headers" (or whatever it is, depending on the tool).

Oh yes, of course.  Many years ago I used a mail client that understood those 
headers, but Apple Mail doesn’t so I’d forgotten they exist.  Thanks for the 
reminder.

Cheers,
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Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, at 01:51 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is
> information 
> in the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the 
> mail program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an 
> option "View all headers" (or whatever it is, depending on the tool).
> 
> Here how it looks "in the raw":
> 
> List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> List-Unsubscribe: ,
>  
> List-Archive: 
> List-Post: 
> List-Help: 
> List-Subscribe: ,
>  
> 
> Some mail programs are smart enough to interpret those headers
> and tell you that the message contains list management information.
> 
> I am glad that information was helpful.
 

Well, I resubscribed under this Fastmail account and, of course, the
other account that was causing problems suddenly started working
properly again...


Cheers

Brian

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Re: List Problems

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dave,

Besides the information in the footer of the message, there is information 
in the headers of the message. The headers are typically not shown by the 
mail program (or web-mail interface), but you can see them by choosing an 
option "View all headers" (or whatever it is, depending on the tool).


Here how it looks "in the raw":

List-Id: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,


Some mail programs are smart enough to interpret those headers
and tell you that the message contains list management information.

I am glad that information was helpful.

Igor




 David Mann Mon, 15 Jun 2015 23:20:28 -0700 wrote:

On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:09 pm, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to
subscribe/unsubscribe.


All I see at the bottom of messages is a link to the web-based 
subscription interface.  I might store your message for future reference 
as I had to wait a week or so after my trip to Oz before I could access 
the web page.


Cheers,
Dave

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Re: List Problems

[David Mann]

On Jun 16, 2015, at 5:09 pm, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to 
> subscribe/unsubscribe.

All I see at the bottom of messages is a link to the web-based subscription 
interface.  I might store your message for future reference as I had to wait a 
week or so after my trip to Oz before I could access the web page.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: List Problems

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

A few days ago (June 9 or 10), I've seen that the mail-archive was stack
for a few hours, as it was not getting any new messages, while I was 
getting (digests) those just fine. Then either it cleared up by itself or 
Doug used a proverbial plunger.

Since that I haven't noticed much of a problem.

In the recent past (1-2 months ago), I've see that a few 
"original" thread messages didn't make it to that same archive, while the 
followups did. I don't know why. (I have my suspicions that it could've 
been related to the long URLs inside those messages that were not in those 
replies that went through to the archive. I wonder if the 
mail-archive.com's own anti-spam filters may have been triggered by those 
URLs.)




Just in case: you don't have to use the web-based interface to 
subscribe/unsubscribe.
Any e-mail you get from PDML contains list management information, how to 
subscribe/unsubscribe.

In short:
To subscribe a particular account, send from it an e-mail to the address:
pdml-requ...@pdml.net
With the Subject: subscribe
To unsubscribe, use the Subject:   unsubscribes.
Use Subject:help
to get more information about the commands.

Follow the instructions you get in the response from the list-management 
server.


Hope that helps,

Igor



Brian Walters Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:48:51 -0700 wrote:

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


Did you try your spam or junk folder?



Yep - nothing there.



I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another
list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to
my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well.



Like Rick, I got your CC to me but your reply hasn't come though on the 
list mail.



It seems odd (to me, anyway). You're obviously not being blocked when you 
send to me directly so why would your address be blocked when sent via the 
list?



I hope it settles down otherwise I'll try to resubscribe under a different 
address when the List bandwidth resets at the end of the month.




Cheers

Brian

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Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

Quoting John :


I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
with additional replies threaded off of it.



I could live with that but my problem is that the original posts never  
show up (or, at least they haven't for the last couple of weeks).




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Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


Did you try your spam or junk folder?



Yep - nothing there.




I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another
list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to
my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well.



Like Rick, I got your CC to me but your reply hasn't come though on  
the list mail.


It seems odd (to me, anyway).  You're obviously not being blocked when  
you send to me directly so why would your address be blocked when sent  
via the list?


I hope it settles down otherwise I'll try to resubscribe under a  
different address when the List bandwidth resets at the end of the  
month.



Cheers

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters  
 wrote:

'morning all

Is anyone else experiencing this?

For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only
way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I
haven't see the originals.

Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank,
Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others.

I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a
difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month.





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Re: List Problems

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Did you try your spam or junk folder?

I don't seem to be having any problems on the PDML, but on another
list to which I belong, gmail is sending posts from certain senders to
my Spam folder, and it is happening to others there as well.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 'morning all
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this?
>
> For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only
> way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I
> haven't see the originals.
>
> Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank,
> Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others.
>
> I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a
> difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month.
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: List Problems

[John]

On 6/15/2015 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

'morning all

Is anyone else experiencing this?

For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the
only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where
I haven't see the originals.

Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank,
Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others.

I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a
difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this
month.




I've occasionally been seeing something similar; I see threads of some
replies before I see the original post. Then I'll see the original post
with additional replies threaded off of it.

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Re: List Problems

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Rick Womer :


Brian,

As far as I know, I'm seeing everything.

Have you checked one of the archives to see what proportion of the  
messages you're missing?


Maybe Doug is late paying the bill...

Rick



Thanks for CC'ing that to me because it hasn't come though on the list.

The normal list archives aren't accessible because of the list  
bandwidth being exceeded but the secondary archives at the  
Mail-Archive show that I'm not seeing any posts from the people I  
mentioned and I can probably add PJ, Jack and Bruce.  I'd say I'm not  
seeing about 60% of the posts.



Cheers

Brian


(



On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


'morning all

Is anyone else experiencing this?

For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you -  
the only way I know about some postings is when I see replies to  
posts where I haven't see the originals.


Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan,  
Frank, Tom, Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may  
be others.


I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that  
makes a difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth  
early this month.



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Re: List Problems

[Rick Womer]

Brian,

As far as I know, I'm seeing everything.

Have you checked one of the archives to see what proportion of the messages 
you're missing?

Maybe Doug is late paying the bill...

Rick

On Jun 15, 2015, at 8:49 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> 'morning all
> 
> Is anyone else experiencing this?
> 
> For the past week or so I'm not seeing messages from some of you - the only 
> way I know about some postings is when I see replies to posts where I haven't 
> see the originals.
> 
> Perusing the archives, it seems I'm not seeing anything from Dan, Frank, Tom, 
> Darren, Eric, Matt, Dave B, Rick and Sandy. There may be others.
> 
> I'd resubscribe under a different email address to see if that makes a 
> difference but the list seems to have run out of bandwidth early this month.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
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Re: List problems?

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-09-17 15:35, Toine wrote:

It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much
on the list, the lost words must be minimal.


I had a similar problem back in the spring.  Unsubscribed and 
resubscribed but that didn't fix it.  Subscribed from a different email 
account, and suddenly both started working!  I have no idea what went wrong.


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Re: List problems?

[Toine]

It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much
on the list, the lost words must be minimal.
Toine

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote:
>>
>> I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
>> (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
>> I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.
>>
>> Toine
>>
>
> FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via the
> list:
>
>  References:
>  Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:30:19 +0200
>  Message-ID:
>  Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone?
>  From: Toine
>  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>
>
> -bmw
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Re: List problems?

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote:

I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
(to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.

Toine



FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via 
the list:


  
References:
  Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:30:19 +0200
  
Message-ID:
  Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone?
  From: Toine
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List


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RE: List problems?

[Bob W]

> 
> I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
> (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
> I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.
> 
> Toine
> 

Did you get into any flame wars?

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Re: list problems

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/23/2009 3:17:18 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
pentko...@gmail.com writes:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at  12:01 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> I posted to the list  at 9:30 am (cst usa).  Have not seen it.  I see
> other  postings.  Anybody else having problems?

==
I think  the tone of the list is pretty low sometimes.

But whatthefuck I've gotten  used to it.

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Re: list problems

[Graydon]

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:24:05AM +0100, eckinator scripsit:
> 2009/11/24 David J Brooks :
> > My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer.
> 
> go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here...
> canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade
> worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =)

Both are rather in the "large canoe/sailing dinghy" category, which is
admittedly up, somewhat, from the "stain on the national honour/leaky
canoe" status of the Molbatts product.

I was rather partial to Fin du Monde and Iron Duke back when I could
drink beer; from Unibrew and the Wellington County Brewery,
respectively.

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Re: list problems

[David J Brooks]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2009/11/24 David J Brooks :
>>
>> My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer.
>
> go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here...
> canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade
> worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =)
> cheers
> ecke

I know that.:-)

Dave
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Re: list problems

[eckinator]

2009/11/24 David J Brooks :
>
> My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer.

go have a sleeman's or a kokanee for me... I can't get them here...
canada actually has some beers above 'like sex in a canoe' grade
worth a glance beyond molson and labatt =)
cheers
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Re: list problems

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa).  Have not seen it.  I see
> other postings.  Anybody else having problems?

My feet hurt, my back aches, i'm out of beer.

Yes i'm having problems.:-)

Dave
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> -gonz
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Re: list problems

[Anthony Farr]

Further, because your own posts have already been displayed to you,
they appear as "read" mail and won't be boldface. And unlike new mail
from other senders, the thread won't get promoted to the top of the
list.  It's a good idea to "star" your own posts so they'll stand out
in the list and be easier to track.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



2009/11/24 Anthony Farr :
> 2009/11/23  :
>
>> I  don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see
>> your own  emails.
>>
>> Marnie
>>
>
> Any posts you make to open a new thread are hidden from the Gmail
> inbox until someone else replies.  To make them visible immediately
> you can select "All Mail" rather than "Inbox" on the "folder" list
> (they're not really folders but that's what they'd be if you were
> using an email client rather than webmail) .
>
> regards, Anthony
>
>   "Of what use is lens and light
>    to those who lack in mind and sight"
>                                               (Anon)
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Re: list problems

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/23  :

> I  don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see
> your own  emails.
>
> Marnie
>

Any posts you make to open a new thread are hidden from the Gmail
inbox until someone else replies.  To make them visible immediately
you can select "All Mail" rather than "Inbox" on the "folder" list
(they're not really folders but that's what they'd be if you were
using an email client rather than webmail) .

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Re: list problems

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/22/2009 9:44:16 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
rgonzoma...@gmail.com writes:
Yup.  I guess that  you cant see your own posts with gmail until
someone replies.  I  remember it happening once before.

-gonz


=
I  don't have gmail, but I suspect there is an option you can check to see 
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Re: list problems

[eckinator]

2009/11/22 Gonz :
> Yup.  I guess that you cant see your own posts with gmail until
> someone replies.  I remember it happening once before.
>
correct - I get that all the time
cheers
ecke

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Re: list problems

[Gonz]

Yup.  I guess that you cant see your own posts with gmail until
someone replies.  I remember it happening once before.

-gonz

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Received a post at 7:31 PST titled: OT: Mark Roberts in Wired.
> That must be it.(?)
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Gonz  wrote:
>
>> From: Gonz 
>> Subject: list problems
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:01 AM
>> I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst
>> usa).  Have not seen it.  I see
>> other postings.  Anybody else having problems?
>>
>> -gonz
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Re: list problems

[Jack Davis]

Received a post at 7:31 PST titled: OT: Mark Roberts in Wired.
That must be it.(?)

Jack

--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Gonz  wrote:

> From: Gonz 
> Subject: list problems
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 9:01 AM
> I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst
> usa).  Have not seen it.  I see
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> 
> -gonz
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Re: list problems

[gldnbearz]

I saw this post on the list.  at least it got through.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> I posted to the list at 9:30 am (cst usa).  Have not seen it.  I see
> other postings.  Anybody else having problems?
>
> -gonz
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Re: list problems

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Peter Alling  wrote:
It was a g-mail account so it doesn't matter really...

I"ve got 99 invitations to g-mail.  Let me know if you want one...

;-)

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Re: list problems

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-Original Message-
>From: Scott Loveless 
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>On 1/28/09, frank theriault  wrote:
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>>  > wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All
>>  > the sudden, worked.
>>
>>
>> Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~
>>  to unsubscribe.  We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member
>>  for life - like it or not.
>>
>>  My, how times have changed!
>
>We've become exclusive.

I tried to sign up a temproary account when my dedicated PDML account was 
unavailable.  I don't know if the temporary account is even recieving pdml mail 
yet!  That was about a month ago.  It was a g-mail account so it doesn't matter 
really...

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Re: list problems

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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM, frank theriault
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> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe  
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>> Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but
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>> the sudden, worked.
>
> Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~
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> for life - like it or not.

That was no joke.

Dave
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> My, how times have changed!
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On 1/28/09, frank theriault  wrote:
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> Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~
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>  My, how times have changed!

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Re: list problems

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe  wrote:
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> the sudden, worked.

Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~
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My, how times have changed!

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[Luiz Felipe]

Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but 
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NOW IT WORKS  Go figure

Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:
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NOW IT WORKS  Go figure

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Re: list problems

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

At least you get something back.  My last five messages to the list went 
into a black  hole: no response and no show on the list.   I'm not sure 
what I did, but .



Otis Wright.

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Re: List problems

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Tue, 11 Apr 2006 06:46:36 +0200 schreef Rob Studdert  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



I've seen no posts from the list in over 12 hours?
Yes this is a test.


It is. You failed :o)

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Re: List problems

[David Savage]

I thought it was because all you northerners were outside enjoying the
nicer weather.

Instead of warming yourselves by the heat of a flame war.

Dave S. :-)

On 4/11/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/4/06, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I've seen no posts from the list in over 12 hours?
> >
> >Yes this is a test.
>
> Australia has been ditched from the list.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
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Re: List problems

[David Savage]

Withdrawal symptoms setting in Rob?

Dave S. :-)

On 4/11/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've seen no posts from the list in over 12 hours?
>
> Yes this is a test.
>
>
> Rob Studdert
> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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>


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Re: List problems

[Cotty]

On 11/4/06, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've seen no posts from the list in over 12 hours?
>
>Yes this is a test.

Australia has been ditched from the list.




Cheers,
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Re: List problems

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The list server has been very weird the past few days. I did get your  
message. This is copied to both you and the list.


Godfrey

On Apr 10, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:


I've seen no posts from the list in over 12 hours?

Yes this is a test.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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RE: List Problems...

[Don Sanderson]

Same here, I miss an occasional one of mine but it's been
a lot better lately.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:22 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: List Problems...
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> If you can read this... For me, who was experiencing problems for
> the past
> year or so, lost posts, etc., the problem has myseriously disappeared for
> about a month now.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
> >From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: "Pentax Discuss" 
> >Subject: List Problems...
> >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:48:54 -0800
> >
> >Seems I can post to the list, see my post in the "Archives", but
> nothing is
> >sent from the list to my e-mail address. Yes, I'm receiving lots
> of other
> >mail...
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bob...
> >
> >"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
> >but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

RE: List Problems...

[Tom C]

Hi Bob,
If you can read this... For me, who was experiencing problems for the past 
year or so, lost posts, etc., the problem has myseriously disappeared for 
about a month now.

Tom C.

From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Subject: List Problems...
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:48:54 -0800
Seems I can post to the list, see my post in the "Archives", but nothing is 
sent from the list to my e-mail address. Yes, I'm receiving lots of other 
mail...

Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."

Re: List problems

[graywolf]

Then that is not your problem. Read the first line again. It is a 
troubleshooting question.

The problem you are having is either with your mail client, ISP, or possibly the 
list server is messed up. However if it is the list server, everyone would be 
having the problem.

--
frank theriault wrote:
Good theory, Tom,
Except, I'm not getting every message twice.  And, many, I'm not getting 
at all.  I only know they're out there, as I see them in responses.

And, I'm getting lots and lots of responses to my posts, way before my 
posts even get on the list (but I know that's likely my ISP doing that, 
or so I've been told).

Oh well...
cheers,
frank
BTW, loving The Birth of the Cool Sessions!  Thanks for the copy.
-ft
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List problems
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:11:02 -0400
If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are 
subscribed more than once. Yes, the mailing list deamon should be 
smart enough to prevent that but does not seem to be. You can 
unsubscribe a few times then subscribe once. That should do the trick. 
However you may miss a few messages in the process.

I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably 
has to be caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things 
not erasing messages after I down load them.

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Re: List problems

[graywolf]

Beats me. Just seems to happen sometimes.
--
TMP wrote:
Hey graywolf!
That's what I thought it was, but how is it that it only just started
happening now?  I didn't change any settings when I went away or anything...
tan.
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List problems
If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are subscribed
more
than once. Yes, the mailing list deamon should be smart enough to prevent
that
but does not seem to be. You can unsubscribe a few times then subscribe
once.
That should do the trick. However you may miss a few messages in the
process.
I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably has to
be
caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things not erasing
messages after I down load them.
--
TMP wrote:
I am having the same problem, but my biggest concern right now is that I
keep getting every message at least twice, and sometimes three times!  How
could this be?!?  It only started happening in the last day or two...
tan.
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 3:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: List problems
Just in case anyone is keeping track, I too seem to have had a number of
posts not make it to the list.
(Not that that's necessarily a bad thing).


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Re: List problems

[Keith Whaley]

TMP wrote:
Hey graywolf!
That's what I thought it was, but how is it that it only just started
happening now?  I didn't change any settings when I went away or anything...
tan.

-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List problems
If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are subscribed
more than once. 
While this is ONE reason for that phenomenon, it is certainly not the 
only reason it happens.

[...]
I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably has to
be caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things not erasing
messages after I down load them.
In my experience, this is the most usual happening.
I sort of hate to say it, but I used to get this quite frequently, but 
in recent times (last 4-6 months) it hasn't happened more than two or 
three times.
In 4 to 6 months around HERE any number of things might and usually do 
happen, so there's literally no way to tell what was responsible.

keith whaley
[...]

Re: List problems

[mike.wilson]

Hi,
PJA wrote:
Sometimes my e-mail client hiccups, especially when there are a large number of 
e-mails on the server. When it does that
the server never receives acknowledgment that the e-mails were received. If that 
happens I'm guaranteed to receive duplicates.
I usually know when that's going to happen.
Wonder if the problems could be due to ISP antispam software?
mike


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Re: List problems

[frank theriault]

Good theory, Tom,
Except, I'm not getting every message twice.  And, many, I'm not getting at 
all.  I only know they're out there, as I see them in responses.

And, I'm getting lots and lots of responses to my posts, way before my posts 
even get on the list (but I know that's likely my ISP doing that, or so I've 
been told).

Oh well...
cheers,
frank
BTW, loving The Birth of the Cool Sessions!  Thanks for the copy.
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fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List problems
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:11:02 -0400
If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are subscribed 
more than once. Yes, the mailing list deamon should be smart enough to 
prevent that but does not seem to be. You can unsubscribe a few times then 
subscribe once. That should do the trick. However you may miss a few 
messages in the process.

I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably has to 
be caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things not erasing 
messages after I down load them.

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RE: List problems

[TMP]

Hey graywolf!

That's what I thought it was, but how is it that it only just started
happening now?  I didn't change any settings when I went away or anything...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: List problems


If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are subscribed
more
than once. Yes, the mailing list deamon should be smart enough to prevent
that
but does not seem to be. You can unsubscribe a few times then subscribe
once.
That should do the trick. However you may miss a few messages in the
process.

I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably has to
be
caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things not erasing
messages after I down load them.

--

TMP wrote:
> I am having the same problem, but my biggest concern right now is that I
> keep getting every message at least twice, and sometimes three times!  How
> could this be?!?  It only started happening in the last day or two...
>
> tan.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 3:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: List problems
>
>
> Just in case anyone is keeping track, I too seem to have had a number of
> posts not make it to the list.
> (Not that that's necessarily a bad thing).
>
>
>

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Re: List problems

[Peter J. Alling]

Sometimes my e-mail client hiccups, especially when there are a large 
number of e-mails on the server.  When it does that
the server never receives acknowledgment that the e-mails were 
received.  If that happens I'm guaranteed to receive duplicates.
I usually know when that's going to happen.

graywolf wrote:
If you are getting every message multiple times it means you are 
subscribed more than once. Yes, the mailing list deamon should be 
smart enough to prevent that but does not seem to be. You can 
unsubscribe a few times then subscribe once. That should do the trick. 
However you may miss a few messages in the process.

I am getting a few messages, not all, more than once. That probably 
has to be caused by something else, probably at my ISP's end of things 
not erasing messages after I down load them.

--
TMP wrote:
I am having the same problem, but my biggest concern right now is that I
keep getting every message at least twice, and sometimes three 
times!  How
could this be?!?  It only started happening in the last day or two...

tan.
-Original Message-
From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 3:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: List problems
Just in case anyone is keeping track, I too seem to have had a number of
posts not make it to the list.
(Not that that's necessarily a bad thing).

Re: List problems

[cbwaters]

- Original Message - 
From: "graywolf"  Yes, the mailing list deamon should be smart enough
to prevent that
> but does not seem to be.

Wow...what did Doug SAY to you up on that Mountain?


;)


Cory
Kidding.


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Re: List problems

[brooksdj]

Only 2 of 6 replies are on the board from today.Only one from Sundays 5--6.

Dave

> Just in case anyone is keeping track, I too seem 
to have had a number of 
> posts not make it to the list.
> (Not that that's necessarily a bad thing).
> 

Re: List problems

[Henri Toivonen]

Peter J. Alling wrote:
Just in case anyone is keeping track, I too seem to have had a number 
of posts not make it to the list.
(Not that that's necessarily a bad thing).
Same here.
/Henri

Re: List Problems... My Problems?

[Joseph Tainter]

Last week various of my posts would whimsically diappear into the 
magnetic ether. I figured Tanya did something to the internet.

This week seems okay. Perhaps it is a rolling embargo against list members.
Joe

Re: List Problems... My Problems?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/9/2004 12:14:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is it just me (using hotmail) or has the list been slow and spotty the 
> last several days?  Numerous posts never come back to me even though 
> they are on the archives and other list members repsond to them.
>
> I guess that means it's just me...
>
>
> Tom C.
---

I  made posts yesterday that have never shown up. Or maybe they have. WW 
responded to one of them, but I never saw it.

Bit strange. So I figure there are other posts I am missing seeing as well.

Marnie aka Doe  And I don't have hotmail. 

Re: List Problems... My Problems?

[Antonio Aparicio]

OK at this end.
A
On 9 Jun 2004, at 06:19, Tom C wrote:
Is it just me (using hotmail) or has the list been slow and spotty the 
last several days?  Numerous posts never come back to me even though 
they are on the archives and other list members repsond to them.

I guess that means it's just me...
Tom C.


From: Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Swamped with photos!
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 21:35:08 -0500
Something like an A-24/2.8 would solve all of your problems Cory!
Stan
On Jun 8, 2004, at 9:27 PM, cbwaters wrote:
I need to buy a lens to get my mind off all this...
Cory

Re: List problems

[Doug Brewer]

On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 06:42 PM, Cameron Hood wrote:

Some of my posts are not making it to my copy of the digest, and yet 
other people are responding to them, so they are obviously getting 
them, perhaps only in individual emails. I sent out 3 tests yesterday, 
and none of them went through. I am sending them to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Should I only send messages to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or is something else wrong.

BTW, nice response to the unsubscribe request, Mr. Robb! Excellent!

C.
The list address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

Doug

Re: List problems?

[Doug Brewer]

There is a digest issue that's being worked on.

thanks,

Doug


At 12:33 PM 10/3/02 +0200, you wrote:
>For Doug the list guy;
>
>several people have problems with their normal subscriptions.
>Is there any info we can pass on?
>
>Best,
>Jostein
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >-- Original Message --
> >From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:05:19 +0100
> >
> >Hi Jostein,
> >
> >Is it me or is the PDML down yet again? I'm getting no digests,
>so
> >I
> >subbed to the normal list and did a test, which I saw, so
>resubbed
> >to
> >digest, but nothing yet.
> >
> >
> >Cotty
> >