Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-25 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Shoot.  Just put a digital sensor in that
little baby.  A small (1 mp) shoud fit.
Might be some rather nice result.
And, a high-dollar novelty camera as well!

Collin

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:53:24 -0600
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

I still don't know why Pentax dropped the 110Super. They could
have made a killing with it if they had applied multipoint AF to
it.

William Robb


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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-25 Thread Rfsindg

At the risk of prolonging this thread, I offer the following comments.

The Optio 430, 330,  230 are Pentax's digital offerings.  
I hear they are selling quite well.  
Good decision by Pentax to make money!
Not a bad marketing decision either...

Go over to your local electronics retailer.
You will find tons of cameras mixed in with the computers.
The 3 megapixel stuff is going for US$500-700 and up.
The results are good and download to your computer easily.

What was the last 35mm camera to move that well or get that kind of 
distribution?
They are selling point-n-shoot cameras for $500 and they are flying off the 
shelves!
What would you want to do if you were a manufacturer?
Help those picky 35mm photo hobbyists, or sell to Joe Sixpack?
It's Polaroid all over again...

And you will have to wait for your 35mm versions, if they ever come.
You can make a pretty good case for the idea that they never will.
With a couple of more steps, the consumer grade stuff will be all the 'Pros' 
need.
Just how sharp does that photo of Johnny and the Easter Bunny need to be. g
...Or that photo of the Mayor and the Citizen of the Year?

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 11:45  AM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:

 Yes.

Then call them or write to them and pester them to release it, or at 
least sell one to you.  If you think they're making a mistake, let them 
know.

-Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-25 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 02:31  PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:

 Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your 
 mind
 that they were serious about digital? Is there any doubt in your mind 
 now
 that they are serious about digital?

Everyone is concerned about digital.  I don't think that Pentax were 
lying to us in their press release about the retooled, lower cost body, 
and I also don't think that they're ridiculously stupid.

If a $6-7K body came out and tanked, I'd be concerned about their 
survival as a company.  I have no problem with Pentax playing it safe, 
but then again, I'm not in the market for a $6K digital SLR.  Those who 
are will certainly feel differently.

-Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 05:59  PM, Cotty wrote:

 Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at
 Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a
 Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will 
 be
 a lot of K mount glass going up for sale.

Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is Canon 
glass because you're impatient?

-Aaron
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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

I say start over.  No point handicapping those of us who guess early 
if/when new information/rumors surface.

-Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25  PM, Rob Brigham wrote:

 I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
 customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
 those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
 market is diminishing with every passing month.

Would you buy it for $6000?

-Aaron
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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-24 Thread Aaron Reynolds

 You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool,
 just to sweeten the pot.

 I have one of those already.

Me too!  Nice loupe.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

Yes.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25  PM, Rob Brigham wrote:

  I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
  customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
  those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
  market is diminishing with every passing month.

 Would you buy it for $6000?

 -Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Cotty

Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is Canon 
glass because you're impatient?

Yes, but -

Actually, I would probably be slightly less committal to Canon, by buying 
a used D30 and a Tokina 28-70 for starters. D30 prices are already 
falling fast. Three months ago, there was only a page or so of D30s on 
eBay. Now there are three pages. In six months there will be 10 pages.

I would not sell my LX and best glass, rather gauging the market over 
time. Some K mount Tokinas would go to fund the D30, but LX and 85 mil 
would stay for a while, possibly for ever, if I can afford it. Time would 
be spent gauging Pentax DSLR commitment (if any), and if there was 
something forthcoming, I might swap back. Or I might not. I reserve the 
right to make my mind up as I go based on what's available versus what my 
requirements are. But as I see it, I will be shooting some digital by 
year's end one way or the other.

I wouldn't desert my Pentax film gear completely (ever) - there are some 
things which always remain precious, as we all know.

I wouldn't consider my course of action as impatience. I simply would 
like to pursue a certain means to an end, and I'd rather not spend extra 
money having to buy new lenses as well as a digital body. Actually I have 
nothing against Canon at all. Of course I would prefer to stay with 
Pentax, as I have been loyal to the brand since 1978. But since then I 
have also owned and used Mamiya and Leica gear also. It didn't preclude 
me using Pentax gear, and I don't foresee any change in that policy.

Hope this clarifies my personal intentions.

 I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
 customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
 those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
 market is diminishing with every passing month.

Would you buy it for $6000?

No!

Best,

Cotty

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread T Rittenhouse

Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind
that they were serious about digital? Is there any doubt in your mind now
that they are serious about digital?

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 07:25  PM, Rob Brigham wrote:

  I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
  customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
  those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
  market is diminishing with every passing month.

 Would you buy it for $6000?

 -Aaron
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Aaron Reynolds
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 05:59  PM, Cotty wrote:

  Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing
happens at
  Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an
order for a
  Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means
there will
  be
  a lot of K mount glass going up for sale.

 Cotty, would you really demote yourself to the horror that is
Canon
 glass because you're impatient?

Good point Aaron.

William Robb
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Lawrence Kwan

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote:
 Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your mind
 that they were serious about digital?

If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster,
there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming
Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its
customers want.

 Is there any doubt in your mind now
 that they are serious about digital?

Digital?  No doubt at all.  Their Optio range is successful.  For
DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the
price has gone down to low $1000+ range.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread T Rittenhouse

Let's put it this way. If you were a studio pro, and you could buy the
Pentax for $7000, or you could buy a 6MP 24x36mm digital back, probably with
the same chip, for your Hasselblad for $16000. Which would you buy?

I don't know, I don't understand, and I totally am at a lost to know why the
fact that such an expensive camera won't sell to snapshooter's for hobby use
makes everybody on the list think no one wants one. Either I am grossly
stupid, or most of the people here are incapable of seeing beyond their own
wallet. If you don't need it nobody needs it. A clear understanding of
market dinamics, not!

I said it before, GET REAL!

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



- Original Message -
From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote:
  Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your
mind
  that they were serious about digital?

 If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster,
 there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming
 Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its
 customers want.

  Is there any doubt in your mind now
  that they are serious about digital?

 Digital?  No doubt at all.  Their Optio range is successful.  For
 DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the
 price has gone down to low $1000+ range.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread T Rittenhouse

Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want PS cameras
in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I can not
understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their obvious marketing
bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too. Though I imaging
electron microscopes are eating into that segment now.

For what it is worth 35mm based 3MP digital SLRs have been around for more
than a decade now. They are just getting down to where consumers notice them
pricewise.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote:
  Well, if they had a $6-7K camera out, would there be any doubt in your
mind
  that they were serious about digital?

 If the camera does not sell and turns out to be a financial disaster,
 there is no doubt in my mind that people on this list would start blaming
 Pentax for no doing its homework on marketing and for not knowing what its
 customers want.

  Is there any doubt in your mind now
  that they are serious about digital?

 Digital?  No doubt at all.  Their Optio range is successful.  For
 DigitalSLR, this is still not the right time for small players, until the
 price has gone down to low $1000+ range.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread Lawrence Kwan

On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, T Rittenhouse wrote:
 I don't know, I don't understand, and I totally am at a lost to know why the
 fact that such an expensive camera won't sell to snapshooter's for hobby use
 makes everybody on the list think no one wants one.

The whole point of Pentax making a prototype for the photo show to is
gauge market reaction.  And they will spend $$ for market research before
releasing any new products (including studio pro).  So if their research
and the response to their prototype shows that it would not sell at that
price range, they won't release it.  As simple as that.  Why would they
not release a product if it will be profitable?

 I said it before, GET REAL!

Yes, and the reality is that there simply are not enough people who is
willing to spend $6000+ on a Pentax out there.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: T Rittenhouse
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want
PS cameras
 in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I
can not
 understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their
obvious marketing
 bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too.
Though I imaging
 electron microscopes are eating into that segment now.

I still don't know why Pentax dropped the 110Super. They could
have made a killing with it if they had applied multipoint AF to
it.

William Robb
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-24 Thread T Rittenhouse

And, think what a great digital it would have made.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 - Original Message -
 From: T Rittenhouse
 Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
 
 
  Yes, I am sure Pentax knows what its customers want. They want
 PS cameras
  in 35mm, APS, and digital. It is why they make anything else I
 can not
  understand. SLRs, 35mm or roll-film, just don't fit their
 obvious marketing
  bent. They sell a lot of binoculars and microscopes too.
 Though I imaging
  electron microscopes are eating into that segment now.
 
 I still don't know why Pentax dropped the 110Super. They could
 have made a killing with it if they had applied multipoint AF to
 it.
 
 William Robb
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Patrick White

Lawrence Kwan writes:
PhotoExpo 2002 is now underway.  No sign of any new releases yet - no
digital SLR and no new limited; only an official launch of Optio 230.
They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any chance for them
to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.

A new lens or two I can understand, but what made you think there would be
a DSLR announcement at this show?
If the MZ-S was any indication, if you start saving for the DSLR now,
you'll probably be able to afford it with money to spare when it comes out.
If we all did that, and then bought it when it came out, Pentax might
actually see a sales jump large enough for them to justify producing more
high-end photography products to a quicker schedule.

later,
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Jeff Tsai

I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:

http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

[On a DSL line so upstream connections are a bit slower so I've kept 
picture quality and size down]

Pentax actually had one of the busier booths but nothing exciting shown 
(at least on the first day...).

Cheers.

Jeff

On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 04:12 PM, pentax-discuss-digest wrote:

 They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any chance for them
 to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

Wow thanks!

This looks to seal it though - nothing new of interest!  They would have
to redo the stands to justify something as big as new limiteds or
digi-SLR.

That lens lineup in the cabinet looks pretty nice though!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Tsai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 March 2002 16:24
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?
 
 
 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for 
 your perusal:
 
   http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 
 [On a DSL line so upstream connections are a bit slower so I've kept 
 picture quality and size down]
 
 Pentax actually had one of the busier booths but nothing 
 exciting shown 
 (at least on the first day...).
 
 Cheers.
 
 Jeff
 
 On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 04:12 PM, pentax-discuss-digest wrote:
 
  They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any 
 chance for them
  to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 23 Mar 2002 at 1:24, Jeff Tsai wrote:

 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:
 
  http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

tv
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Christian Skofteland

The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a 
great gift idea

Christian

On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:

   http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

 *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

 tv
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Mark Roberts

Tom wrote:

Jeff Tsai wrote:

 I've put up some temporary pics from the Pentax booth for your perusal:
 
  http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

Amazing what you can do when you free up that RD budget that had been directed
to the MZ-D. ;-P


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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Malcolm Smith

LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking
photos wearing that!!

Malcolm

 The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a
 great gift idea

 Christian

 On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:

http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
 
  *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.
 
  tv
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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Christian Skofteland

HAR!  You don't know my wife!

Christian

On Friday 22 March 2002 13:23, Malcolm Smith wrote:
 LOL! I can't (even for one minute) see her allowing you to go out taking
 photos wearing that!!

 Malcolm

  The wife's birthday was today.  If only I'd known that Pentax had such a
  great gift idea
 
  Christian
 
  On Friday 22 March 2002 12:50, Tom wrote:
 http://lumine.dyndns.org:8080/~jeffrey/stuff/pentax2002/
  
   *Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.
  
   tv
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

That lens lineup in the cabinet looks pretty nice though!!

Who's looking at the lenses!

;-)

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

So when is the next important show?

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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?


 Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all.
Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is quite
important.
 Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

*Finally*, Pentax vinyl skirts.

Thanks Tom - that was the best laugh I've had all week. Made my day!

Cotty

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Pål Jensen

Ryan wrote:

 So when is the next important show?


Photokina in September. Pentax is prone to announce major releases at the Photokina 
show. However, they are also known to release products at anytime - no show required. 
Then theres Photography day the first of june when Pentax release the Photo annual 
book - this event may also be a launching pad for products.

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Re: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Cotty

Oooops. Seems like the Pentax digital slr rumor was false after all.  
Strange that pentax don't show any new products at this show as it is 
quite important. 
Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an open question.

I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just got caught up 
in all the hype.

Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing happens at 
Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an order for a 
Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means there will be 
a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one possible thing 
that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. At this time, 
I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*...

A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far from sunny 
right now!

Cotradamus

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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

So can you tell us what it is now? (please...)

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 Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an 
 open question.
 
 Pål
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Rob Brigham

Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced
myself.  Almost, but not quite.  Even an announcement would have been
nice...

I think if they have nothing for Photokina then you wont be the only
customer lost to Pentax.  Many more will leave soon and probably many of
those will never return.  They HAVE to get it done this year - their
market is diminishing with every passing month.

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I must admit that I was very skeptical. No, really. I just 
 got caught up 
 in all the hype.
 
 Let's put it this way: I have firmly decided that if nothing 
 happens at 
 Photokina this year, a few days later I will be placing an 
 order for a 
 Canon D60, grip, microdrive, and extra battery, which means 
 there will be 
 a lot of K mount glass going up for sale. There's only one 
 possible thing 
 that will stop me from doing that, and you know what it is. 
 At this time, 
 I am convinced that I wont be selling *anything*...
 
 A cheery good night from England where even Brighton is far 
 from sunny 
 right now!
 
 Cotradamus
 
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New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread tom

Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to do with the pool?

- scrap it
- leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
- start over again in May in anticipation of a summer announcement.

I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or Photokina.

Other suggestions welcomed.

tv

On 23 Mar 2002 at 0:22, Rob Brigham wrote:

 So can you tell us what it is now? (please...)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  
  Still, the next Limited lens is indeed due but when is an 
  open question.
  
  Pål
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

To quote an old American baseball player, Deja-vue all over again! There were
the same exact same posts here several years ago regarding the mythical MZ-1.
Over the years I have come to the opinion that if Pentax's current products
satisfy your needs, stay with them. If you need them to come out with something
new, you will wind up in anticipation purgatory.


--- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Me too, I just WANTED to believe it soo much that I almost convinced
 myself.  Almost, but not quite.  Even an announcement would have been
 nice...
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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: tom
Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from
Pentax?)


 Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you guys want to
do with the pool?

 - scrap it
 - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
 - start over again in May in anticipation of a summer
announcement.

 I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late summer, or
Photokina.

Scrap it.

William Robb
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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread Brendan

Best start a new poll close to the next possible
release time.

--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: tom
 Subject: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so
 nothing new from
 Pentax?)
 
 
  Assuming no new limited at PhotoExpo, what do you
 guys want to
 do with the pool?
 
  - scrap it
  - leave it as is until a new lens gets announced.
  - start over again in May in anticipation of a
 summer
 announcement.
 
  I'm told the 2 likely scenarios are mid to late
 summer, or
 Photokina.
 
 Scrap it.
 
 William Robb
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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:55, William Robb wrote:
 
 Scrap it.
 

You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool, just to sweeten the pot.

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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: tom
Subject: Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new
from Pentax?)


 On 22 Mar 2002 at 18:55, William Robb wrote:
 
  Scrap it.
 

 You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool,
just to sweeten the pot.

I have one of those already. But. How about we just say that
the pool is for whatever the next limited lens is, whenever it
comes out?

William Robb
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RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

2002-03-22 Thread dave o'brien

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

 To quote an old American baseball player, Deja-vue all over again! There were
 the same exact same posts here several years ago regarding the mythical MZ-1.
 Over the years I have come to the opinion that if Pentax's current products
 satisfy your needs, stay with them. If you need them to come out with something
 new, you will wind up in anticipation purgatory.

Since I first joined this list in about '98 or '99, there's been constant 
new flagship at next show predictions, almost always followed by did I 
say this show? I meant the next show cop-outs.

It's just a 'feature' of the PDML.

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Re: New limited lens (RE: PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?)

2002-03-22 Thread tom

On 22 Mar 2002 at 23:55, William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: tom
 
  You sure? My Pentax rep has thrown a 5.5x loupe into the pool,
 just to sweeten the pot.
 
 I have one of those already. 

Me too, but I figure with two of them I can edit negs twice as fast.

 But. How about we just say that
 the pool is for whatever the next limited lens is, whenever it
 comes out?

My thoughts are along those lines, but I was thinking we'd have another open period 
for people to opt in or opt out. Say 1 week starting from this Monday.

Also, I propose a tie breaking committee to decide who wins if it isn't obvious. I 
nominate Bob Walkden, Pal Jensen and Tom Rittenhouse.

Pal knows too much, and would have to be excluded anyway. ;)

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