Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On 3/8/2010 2:58 PM, Miserere wrote: I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) Likewise. When I bought my Metz flash I went out to look for info, found this page and bookmarked it. I agree with you on your photographers classification, though it is very coarse. I, for one, can use flash and use flash although with rather limited experience and very rarely. And yes, I prefer to photograph in available light. Though, I don't do that for money, thus I am almost completely harmless... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Facebook want's me to login to see the page. I guess not.
On 3/13/2010 8:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
Bob W said:
And how did you get started in this business? As I recall it was in exactly
the same way.
Good point Bob, and my ego totally needed to be put back in it's place too
(it gets a bit too big for its boots sometimes!). So, I totally agree!
However, take a look at this:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref=nf#!/album.php
?page=6aid=161316id=547536217
These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling herself a
professional and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a year ago!
Grr. They are FAR from professional!
I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a
professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about
photography.
I totally agree! The best shots I have done are the most uncontrived,
candid shots without invasive use of flash/strobes. It takes special skill
to be able to read the light and know when natural light will make or
break the shot, and/or when flash is needed.
I hate using flash/strobes too, but I LOVE my ring flash! That thing is my
new best friend and it is the way I have achieved some of my most favourite
shots lately, like this, which I shot yesterday:
http://www.lovebytes.com.au/pics/TaigheBorder.jpg
Anyways, IMO, the true measure of a being a great photographer (whether you
are pro or not!), is knowing how to use strobes/flash, and when NOT to use
it, or when TO use it. I think THAT is the key.
Tan.x.
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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Bob W said: However, take a look at this: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref=nf#!/ album.php ?page=6aid=161316id=547536217 These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling herself a professional and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a year ago! Grr. They are FAR from professional! The link isn't working. I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about photography. I totally agree! The best shots I have done are the most uncontrived, candid shots without invasive use of flash/strobes. It takes special skill to be able to read the light and know when natural light will make or break the shot, and/or when flash is needed. There is as much to learn about using strobes as there is about using a camera. Most of the photography I've done has been in situations where strobes aren't an option, so I worked at getting good at photographs without a strobe. Now, I really need to improve my skills with lighting. I've read light, science and magic twice, and am working my way through the strobist DVDs. One of the reasons I dislike my 540 so much is that I seem to have to put more energy into outsmarting it than I do in where to aim it, and how to diffuse it. It may very well be the fault of the camera that the p-ttl metering isn't worth shite, but on average I get better results putting the flash on manual, and setting my f-stop by guaging the distance, taking a SCWAG at the exposure and occasionally chimping to double check. This is why I get so annoyed at the flash deciding that I really want p-ttl rather than whatever power I set it at. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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However, take a look at this: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref= nf#!/album.php ?page=6aid=161316id=547536217 These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling herself a professional and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a year ago! Grr. They are FAR from professional! I don't have a Facebook account, so I can't see them. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If her target clients don't like them she won't get any business; if they do, she will. Whether she describes herself as professional or not is irrelevant - what matters from the professional point of view is income. If you're generating regular income you're a professional; otherwise you're not. It doesn't matter what you write on your Facebook page. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I don't have a Facebook account, so I can't see them. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If her target clients don't like them she won't get any business; if they do, she will. Whether she describes herself as professional or not is irrelevant - what matters from the professional point of view is income. If you're generating regular income you're a professional; otherwise you're not. It doesn't matter what you write on your Facebook page. Bob I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos. Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel and about 1 year. His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer) Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and thought his response was funny. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 14 March 2010 09:03, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos. Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel and about 1 year. His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer) Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and thought his response was funny. Dave Funny, just yesterday I was writing a post for my blog about photographers on court TV--this case is most definitely in my post. To add some details, the photographer showed up at to the church ceremony (where strobes weren't allowed, according to her) with a digital rebel and kit lens. When the judge asked her what apertures the lens had, she didn't know. Of course, the photos were rubbish. Here's the post: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/14/when-photographers-go-to-court/ Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My point exactly! Tan. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison On 14 March 2010 09:03, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos. Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel and about 1 year. His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer) Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and thought his response was funny. Dave Funny, just yesterday I was writing a post for my blog about photographers on court TV--this case is most definitely in my post. To add some details, the photographer showed up at to the church ceremony (where strobes weren't allowed, according to her) with a digital rebel and kit lens. When the judge asked her what apertures the lens had, she didn't know. Of course, the photos were rubbish. Here's the post: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/14/when-photographers-go-to-court/ Cheers, --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4944 (20100314) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! t.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Monday, 8 March 2010 10:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison snip As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brian said: snip I haven't checked whether my AF360FGZ behaves in the same way but I'm in the I hate strobes category and try to avoid using the damn thing. You know, I use mine CONSTANTLY, and I have no idea if it does or doesn't... Actually, on second thoughts, I don't think it does cause I can just go and press the shutter release and it will come back alive and continue where I left off. Admittedly though, I don't use manual very often unless I am trying to shoot with available light but need it to freeze movement when using a slow shutter speed... tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! t.x. Well, there are those of us who know how to use a strobe, can get quite good results with one and still loathe the things. I'm one of those. I've got a nice little collection of speedlights and strobes and will use them if absolutely necessary, but if I can get the shot without them I will. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! t.x. Well, there are those of us who know how to use a strobe, can get quite good results with one and still loathe the things. I'm one of those. I've got a nice little collection of speedlights and strobes and will use them if absolutely necessary, but if I can get the shot without them I will. I tend to agree for the most part. But there are times when I can get a shot without a strobe but realize I can get a better shot by adding some flash. For example, when shooting kids on the playground with high light or backlight, a little flash fill and high-speed synch plusses the photography considerably. Yes, reflectors would be just as good or better, but have you ever tried to keep up with a pack of playing kids while holding a reflector? I'm very fond of strobes both in the studio and on location for what they can bring to my photography. Paul -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! t.x. Well, there are those of us who know how to use a strobe, can get quite good results with one and still loathe the things. I'm one of those. I've got a nice little collection of speedlights and strobes and will use them if absolutely necessary, but if I can get the shot without them I will. Strobes are a tool, just like a hammer. Nailing the shot is a metaphor, not instructions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! And how did you get started in this business? As I recall it was in exactly the same way. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about photography. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about photography. Bob The only true mark of a professional is delivering the image without inconveniencing the client more than absolutely necessary for a price which exceeds the costs incurred. This does not necessarily imply excessive skill on the photographer but does imply a functional knowledge of ones limitations. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: I TOTALLY agree! And this is why there are so many pros floating around places like Facebook who boast the following: I am an available light photographer, who conveniently comes to you or your chosen location... Translated to meaning - I am a mum who bought myself a camera and can take ok photos and add a vignette or two in PS Elements. Have no idea how to use flash, and can't afford to buy the stuff anyways, and can't afford a studio either. I have a real bee in my bonnet about this new breed, don't get me started! t.x. Well, there are those of us who know how to use a strobe, can get quite good results with one and still loathe the things. I'm one of those. I've got a nice little collection of speedlights and strobes and will use them if absolutely necessary, but if I can get the shot without them I will. I tend to agree for the most part. But there are times when I can get a shot without a strobe but realize I can get a better shot by adding some flash. For example, when shooting kids on the playground with high light or backlight, a little flash fill and high-speed synch plusses the photography considerably. Yes, reflectors would be just as good or better, but have you ever tried to keep up with a pack of playing kids while holding a reflector? I'm very fond of strobes both in the studio and on location for what they can bring to my photography. Paul I'm with Paul on this one. Learning the little technique of shooting in manual at f4 and 1/60th of a second with some bounced flash really opened up photographic possibilities for me. I haven't mastered strobe use, but I'm not against it or as resistant to it as I used to be. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W said: And how did you get started in this business? As I recall it was in exactly the same way. Good point Bob, and my ego totally needed to be put back in it's place too (it gets a bit too big for its boots sometimes!). So, I totally agree! However, take a look at this: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref=nf#!/album.php ?page=6aid=161316id=547536217 These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling herself a professional and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a year ago! Grr. They are FAR from professional! I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing about photography. I totally agree! The best shots I have done are the most uncontrived, candid shots without invasive use of flash/strobes. It takes special skill to be able to read the light and know when natural light will make or break the shot, and/or when flash is needed. I hate using flash/strobes too, but I LOVE my ring flash! That thing is my new best friend and it is the way I have achieved some of my most favourite shots lately, like this, which I shot yesterday: http://www.lovebytes.com.au/pics/TaigheBorder.jpg Anyways, IMO, the true measure of a being a great photographer (whether you are pro or not!), is knowing how to use strobes/flash, and when NOT to use it, or when TO use it. I think THAT is the key. Tan.x. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: P. J. Alling On 3/8/2010 10:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote: On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between:-) I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them. I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a minute or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has reverted to PTTL. Is it supposed to do that? Well obviously you wouldn't want to make a mistake and think for yourself. PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/3/9 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE! Don't feed him. We just keep him around for show. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:40, Larry Colen wrote: I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. I agree with this complaint. Any time it is powered up, it defaults to P-TTL, no matter what it was set at before. It would be nice if it remembered what mode it was in and would stay there. -Charles If it's any consolation: in Wireless mode the AF540 doesn't go to sleep until after at least an hour of inactivity. Used that way it effectively doesn't forget its settings while on. That's how I use mine 99.9% of the time, on light stands or mini-tripods, so I'm not bothered by the settings amnesia issue too much. I notice it if I have a nice setup that I leave for the next day to continue using. Then I have to power-on and restore all the settings including Manual mode and the power I had dialed in. I don't have any other flash experience to compare to, but I like the two 540's I have. They're powerful and flexible. I use the rotating head feature a great deal and I'm really glad I spent the extra bucks over the 360. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/9/2010 1:01 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
On 3/8/2010 10:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Larry Colen
On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote:
On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource
(or some don't care for it - as I know some people here
don't care
about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was
rather useful
to me:
http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview
Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison
across
models
for each feature.
Igor
I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page
bookmarked
for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston
guy, so
he probably says flah-shes.
As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two
types of
photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that
hate
strobes.
I'm somewhere in between:-)
I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them.
I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode.
Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a
minute or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has
reverted to PTTL.
Is it supposed to do that?
Well obviously you wouldn't want to make a mistake and think for
yourself.
PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE!
Takes one to know one. Hell I'm making a joke about a piece of freeing
equipment. You sir are certainly a humorless dolt.
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On 3/9/2010 2:02 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/3/9 John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE!
Don't feed him. We just keep him around for show.
I would have though better of you. I know we don't agree on everything
but this was obviously a comment on engineers not trusting the instincts
of photographers, and John reacted entirely out of some kind of
inferiority. complex in my opinion. Nothing political could be implied
here. Nor was it meant.
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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:01 -0500, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling On 3/8/2010 10:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote: On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between:-) I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them. I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a minute or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has reverted to PTTL. Is it supposed to do that? Well obviously you wouldn't want to make a mistake and think for yourself. PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE! In fairness, I think Peter was expressing a sarcastic comment directed at the designers of the flash, not at you. I haven't checked whether my AF360FGZ behaves in the same way but I'm in the I hate strobes category and try to avoid using the damn thing. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On 3/9/2010 3:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:01 -0500, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
From: P. J. Alling
On 3/8/2010 10:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Larry Colen
On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote:
On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org wrote:
It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource
(or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care
about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful
to me:
http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview
Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across
models
for each feature.
Igor
I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked
for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston
guy, so
he probably says flah-shes.
As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of
photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate
strobes.
I'm somewhere in between:-)
I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them.
I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode.
Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a minute
or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has reverted to
PTTL.
Is it supposed to do that?
Well obviously you wouldn't want to make a mistake and think for yourself.
PJ, YOU are an ASSHOLE!
In fairness, I think Peter was expressing a sarcastic comment directed
at the designers of the flash, not at you.
I haven't checked whether my AF360FGZ behaves in the same way but I'm in
the I hate strobes category and try to avoid using the damn thing.
Cheers
Brian
Thank you Brian, that is precisely what I was doing. I had no doubt
that John could think for himself. I may not agree with him, but what
the hell, I respect him, but yes I do think he's an asshole too.
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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote: On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them. I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. If the Metz 58, or whatever it is, stays in the mode that it is put, I may have to start looking for one soon. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
I've had many flashes over the years. The AF540 is definitely among my favorites. I've never used it in manual mode. Since I can dial in over and under exposure comp on the flash, I see no need to use it manually. Don't know if it's capable of that or not. But my two AF 540s are definitely reliable and powerful units. Used a Sigma 530 Super for a while. Now that was the flash from hell. Paul On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote: On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them. I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. If the Metz 58, or whatever it is, stays in the mode that it is put, I may have to start looking for one soon. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:40, Larry Colen wrote: I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. I agree with this complaint. Any time it is powered up, it defaults to P-TTL, no matter what it was set at before. It would be nice if it remembered what mode it was in and would stay there. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
From: Larry Colen On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote: On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource (or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful to me: http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across models for each feature. Igor I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston guy, so he probably says flah-shes. As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate strobes. I'm somewhere in between :-) I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them. I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a minute or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has reverted to PTTL. Is it supposed to do that? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
On 3/8/2010 10:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Larry Colen
On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:58 AM, Miserere wrote:
On 7 March 2010 14:35, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
It is possible that all other PDMLers know this resource
(or some don't care for it - as I know some people here don't care
about [if not simply detest] flashes), but it was rather useful
to me:
http://pttl.mattdm.org/overview
Very nice summary for each P-TTL flash plus comparison across
models
for each feature.
Igor
I don't know about other PDMLers, but I've had that page bookmarked
for a long time; useful stuff. And Matt happens to be a Boston
guy, so
he probably says flah-shes.
As for people detesting flashes, I think there are two types of
photographers: Those who know how to strobe, and those that hate
strobes.
I'm somewhere in between :-)
I neither consider myself good with strobes, nor do I hate them.
I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode.
Mine does the same thing. It's like if I'm not shooting for a minute
or two it goes to sleep when I wake it up again it has reverted to
PTTL.
Is it supposed to do that?
Well obviously you wouldn't want to make a mistake and think for yourself.
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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison
Mon Mar 8 11:09:34 CST 2010 Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:40, Larry Colen wrote: I do not, however, like my AF540. It will NOT stay in manual mode. I agree with this complaint. Any time it is powered up, it defaults to P-TTL, no matter what it was set at before. It would be nice if it remembered what mode it was in and would stay there. -Charles Larry, - the manual mode of the flash is available if you go into the M[anual] mode of the camera (on K-7, at least, but I suspect it's the same on K10/K20). It might be the same way for some other modes (A or T). I've ordered Metz 58 today. It seems to have more flexibility in adjustments. Charles: yes, it is a well known complaint about 540 FGZ that it forgets the settings. And I believe it happens even when it goes into the sleep mode. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
