Re: PESO: More running water on rocks
Nice bill Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill wrote: > This is an old one I shot with the K7 & 70mm LTD in 2009. > > https://flic.kr/p/2q2ibTb > > enjoy > > bill > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
John Sessoms wrote: >Side note, anyone looked into replacing Windows 10 Home with Windows 10 Pro? Yep, I did that with my laptop just a few months ago. Bought a NOS Windows 10 Pro package on eBay for about $50.00. Worth the price just to be able to decide when to do updates (rather than having the time chosen for me - always at the most inopportune moment, as per Murphy's Law.) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Side note, anyone looked into replacing Windows 10 Home with Windows 10 Pro? On 7/6/2024 1:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: l...@red4est.com wrote: Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates Windows 11. I don't blame him. The privacy intrusion stuff is enough to keep me off Win 11. And there are no improvements that are enticing enough to tempt me. (I'm running the "Open Shell" interface to rid myself of the wretched Windows 10 interface.) I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 with 12G onboard memory). Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10? I don't think there's any Windows 11 laptop that won't run Windows 10. And plenty of places that still have stock of Windows 10 installation packages. -- -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Henk, well done. That is a remarkable photo! Alan C On 08-Jul-24 04:38 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Alan, today I saw an emperor female laying eggs in the pool nearby. As I said this is an event where you usually have a few seconds if the dragonfly is not disturbed. AF-S single point, no need to use MF. I noticed the small red-eye damselfly only in lightroom! The difference in size of both is very remarkable. https://flic.kr/p/2q2YMCo Henk Op 2024-07-08 om 07:00 schreef Alan C: Henk, I agree with this: "I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable." I have had great difficulty shooting birds in flight & aerobatics with the K5 & HD 55-300. I found MF gave the best results but still only about 10% savers. A chap in Johannesburg produced some very good aerobatic shots with a K3ii & PLM. As you say, the K3iii would probably be even better. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Alan, today I saw an emperor female laying eggs in the pool nearby. As I said this is an event where you usually have a few seconds if the dragonfly is not disturbed. AF-S single point, no need to use MF. I noticed the small red-eye damselfly only in lightroom! The difference in size of both is very remarkable. https://flic.kr/p/2q2YMCo Henk Op 2024-07-08 om 07:00 schreef Alan C: Henk, I agree with this: "I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable." I have had great difficulty shooting birds in flight & aerobatics with the K5 & HD 55-300. I found MF gave the best results but still only about 10% savers. A chap in Johannesburg produced some very good aerobatic shots with a K3ii & PLM. As you say, the K3iii would probably be even better. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Henk, I agree with this: "I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable." I have had great difficulty shooting birds in flight & aerobatics with the K5 & HD 55-300. I found MF gave the best results but still only about 10% savers. A chap in Johannesburg produced some very good aerobatic shots with a K3ii & PLM. As you say, the K3iii would probably be even better. Alan C -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Here a recent YT video claiming that with the latest hardware it is better to install Win 11 rather than Win 10 to avoid problems. https://youtu.be/L-p4XGZfXYE?si=7v_GQZOszs-vw1Tb Plus the fact that from October next year you likely will have to pay for (security) updates on Win 10. Henk ( a happy Win 11 user) Op 2024-07-06 om 19:43 schreef Mark Roberts: l...@red4est.com wrote: Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates Windows 11. I don't blame him. The privacy intrusion stuff is enough to keep me off Win 11. And there are no improvements that are enticing enough to tempt me. (I'm running the "Open Shell" interface to rid myself of the wretched Windows 10 interface.) I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 with 12G onboard memory). Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10? I don't think there's any Windows 11 laptop that won't run Windows 10. And plenty of places that still have stock of Windows 10 installation packages. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG is up
small but excellent gallery this month Dave On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 7:08 AM Brian Walters wrote: > G'day all > > Enjoy the gallery here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/ > > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery > there). > > Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not > infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the > gallery, let me know. > > + > > Next up: 'Long Exposure' > > Full Submissions Guidelines are here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html > > You can submit here: > > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ > > Cheers > Brian > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > https://lyons-ryan.org/brians-pics/ > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Alan, that review confirms my experience with this lens about AF-S and AF-C. The body is the limiting factor in AF. However this review is from 2017 so they haven't tested it on the K-3 III. I bought the K-70 a few years ago to fit the 55-300 PLM (it won't combine with my K-5) and for me this is a pleasant light weight combo to walk around in nature. For birding you often need a longer lens which I don't have. Only if it gets stuck I would switch to a mirrorless system like the Fujifilm XT-5. Henk Op 2024-07-07 om 08:05 schreef Alan C: Henk Have a look at this: https://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-55-300mm-f45-63-ed-plm-wr/focusing.html#:~:text=our%20full%20findings!-,Autofocus,as%20those%20lenses%2C%20as%20well. Alan C On 06-Jul-24 10:31 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: Some dragonflies do indeed hover, so you have sometimes one or more seconds. The fast emperor is not one of these, but I have earlier taken some in flight pics in the way you shoot on a racing circuit. The PLM is a fast and silent lens, however all Pentax bodies (perhaps except the K-3 III) are weak in AF. I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable. Would be nice to work with fast AF of one of the mirrorless systems. Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Henk Have a look at this: https://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-55-300mm-f45-63-ed-plm-wr/focusing.html#:~:text=our%20full%20findings!-,Autofocus,as%20those%20lenses%2C%20as%20well. Alan C On 06-Jul-24 10:31 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: Some dragonflies do indeed hover, so you have sometimes one or more seconds. The fast emperor is not one of these, but I have earlier taken some in flight pics in the way you shoot on a racing circuit. The PLM is a fast and silent lens, however all Pentax bodies (perhaps except the K-3 III) are weak in AF. I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable. Would be nice to work with fast AF of one of the mirrorless systems. Henk Op 2024-07-05 om 18:46 schreef Alan C: Henk, that PML does so well - way better than my screw drive HD on the K5. Another opportunity would be when they hover. Alan C On 05-Jul-24 02:13 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor dragonflies. Just plain luck to see them 'in copula', busy shaking off another attacking dragonfly, close to where I was standing on the edge of woods. These emperors are always very fast in flight and the only other chance to shoot one is when the female is laying eggs on the water surface. https://flic.kr/p/2q26KAT Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
On 7/6/2024 1:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bill wrote: That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a 3060 with 12gb ram. When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required. Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler: https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033 The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push this system to the point where I need a second fan. With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's really quiet in my usage. I water cooled my system. Partly because I wanted to, and partly because it was recommended. I've seen a couple of fan coolers that I could have used. Even with liquid cooling I've had CPU temps in the mid 90ºC range when doing some heavy image processing. It won't stay there for long, but when I'm doing a big focus stack it will jump quite high and then settle back into the 60º range. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 10:48 PM Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > >That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the > >Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 > >7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a > >3060 with 12gb ram. > > > >When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was > >slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I > >figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only > >gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus > >stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required. > > Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler: > https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033 > The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit > in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push > this system to the point where I need a second fan. > With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's > really quiet in my usage. No reason to go watercooling when there are air coolers like that. Quieter and less problematic - can't have a water leak if there's no water. I'll upgrade my PC someday (probably not this year), and my planned solution looks similar to yours. Except I'll go Zen 5 (Ryzen 9700X, likely), as they'll be available by then. Regards, Alex -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Bill wrote: >That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the >Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 >7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a >3060 with 12gb ram. > >When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was >slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I >figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only >gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus >stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required. Here's what I bought for a CPU cooler: https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324?Item=9SIAADYA5G4033 The second fan is optional, which is a good thing because it won't fit in my application. Not being a gamer, I really doubt I'll ever push this system to the point where I need a second fan. With the variable-speed fans that only run as fast as necessary it's really quiet in my usage. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
That's pretty much what my build was last year. I ended up with the Aorus x670E Master but a little less processor, I put in the Ryzen 7 7700X. I stayed with Gigabyte for the video card, but mine is also a 3060 with 12gb ram. When I was bench marking stuff I discovered that my intended MB was slower with 128gb of ram than it was with 64 so I went with less ram. I figured using the M.2 cards as swap would be fine, and so far I've only gone to swap a few times with 64b, and that was with hugely deep focus stacks off the X-T5 where it's decided a hundred exposures are required. Did you go with liquid cooling or air? bill On 7/6/2024 11:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: l...@red4est.com wrote: I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 with 12G onboard memory). -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
l...@red4est.com wrote: >Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates Windows >11. I don't blame him. The privacy intrusion stuff is enough to keep me off Win 11. And there are no improvements that are enticing enough to tempt me. (I'm running the "Open Shell" interface to rid myself of the wretched Windows 10 interface.) I went with a Gigabyte B650 Aorus (where do they get these ridiculous names?) motherboard and an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. Far from the most powerful kit you can get these days but under a grand (with cooler, memory and M.2 SSD included). I went with a RTX 3060 graphics card as Per Toine's recommendation (I got the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 with 12G onboard memory). >Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10? I don't think there's any Windows 11 laptop that won't run Windows 10. And plenty of places that still have stock of Windows 10 installation packages. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Upgrading win 10 to 11 is pretty straightforward if I remember correctly. And the GUI is identical, I don't see why you can hate Win11 and love Win10. Microsoft is still weeding out old Win10 code and if you deep dive in the system the old stuff is still running (like control panel, device manager etc). The Settings app is not my favorite tool to tweak, the same for Apple OS's settings app (maybe that's improved but my Mac Mini from 2012 is frozen by Apple). On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 at 23:18, wrote: > Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates > Windows 11. > > Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10? > > On July 5, 2024 2:14:25 PM PDT, Mark Roberts > wrote: > >So in the end, after doing some research based on input from the PDML, > >I bought a motherboard/CPU package and a new graphics board. I spent > >several hours today installing the new motherboard (the cooling system > >I got for the new CPU, although far from the most extensive available, > >is freakin' HUGE!) and graphics card. Here's the most amazing thing: > >Windows 10 just booted right up. Yup. Recognized the new hardware and > >installed drivers almost instantly. You could have knocked me over > >with a feather! It's still early days but I can already tell this is > >MUCH faster. Some deconvolution sharpening actions on K-1 files that > >used to take minutes now take seconds. Big fun. > > > >Since it's been a loong time since I've refreshed this system (and > >I've done too much tinkering in the interim) I'll do an OS refresh and > >reinstall apps when I have more free time, just to be safe. But for > >now I'm really happy. > >-- > >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Thanks Ralf. Yes, parents should be warned for their Sunday walk with the kids in the woods. Henk Op 2024-07-05 om 19:07 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 05.07.24 um 14:13 schrieb Henk Terhell: This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor dragonflies. Great shot but shouldn't this have a PG rating. ;-) Ralf -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Some dragonflies do indeed hover, so you have sometimes one or more seconds. The fast emperor is not one of these, but I have earlier taken some in flight pics in the way you shoot on a racing circuit. The PLM is a fast and silent lens, however all Pentax bodies (perhaps except the K-3 III) are weak in AF. I'm shooting dragonflies in flight in AF-S with single point, because AF-C is unusable. Would be nice to work with fast AF of one of the mirrorless systems. Henk Op 2024-07-05 om 18:46 schreef Alan C: Henk, that PML does so well - way better than my screw drive HD on the K5. Another opportunity would be when they hover. Alan C On 05-Jul-24 02:13 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor dragonflies. Just plain luck to see them 'in copula', busy shaking off another attacking dragonfly, close to where I was standing on the edge of woods. These emperors are always very fast in flight and the only other chance to shoot one is when the female is laying eggs on the water surface. https://flic.kr/p/2q26KAT Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Can you post details, my boss would like a faster computer but hates Windows 11. Related, what's the fastest laptop that runs Windows 10? On July 5, 2024 2:14:25 PM PDT, Mark Roberts wrote: >So in the end, after doing some research based on input from the PDML, >I bought a motherboard/CPU package and a new graphics board. I spent >several hours today installing the new motherboard (the cooling system >I got for the new CPU, although far from the most extensive available, >is freakin' HUGE!) and graphics card. Here's the most amazing thing: >Windows 10 just booted right up. Yup. Recognized the new hardware and >installed drivers almost instantly. You could have knocked me over >with a feather! It's still early days but I can already tell this is >MUCH faster. Some deconvolution sharpening actions on K-1 files that >used to take minutes now take seconds. Big fun. > >Since it's been a loong time since I've refreshed this system (and >I've done too much tinkering in the interim) I'll do an OS refresh and >reinstall apps when I have more free time, just to be safe. But for >now I'm really happy. >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
So in the end, after doing some research based on input from the PDML, I bought a motherboard/CPU package and a new graphics board. I spent several hours today installing the new motherboard (the cooling system I got for the new CPU, although far from the most extensive available, is freakin' HUGE!) and graphics card. Here's the most amazing thing: Windows 10 just booted right up. Yup. Recognized the new hardware and installed drivers almost instantly. You could have knocked me over with a feather! It's still early days but I can already tell this is MUCH faster. Some deconvolution sharpening actions on K-1 files that used to take minutes now take seconds. Big fun. Since it's been a loong time since I've refreshed this system (and I've done too much tinkering in the interim) I'll do an OS refresh and reinstall apps when I have more free time, just to be safe. But for now I'm really happy. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
> On Jul 5, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 05.07.24 um 18:20 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi >> However, this is arguably my all-time favorite compact 35mm camera. It's >> full-frame 24x36 mm format... >> Minox 35GT-E >> ::https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53837228803_b43a592cb9_b.jpg > > Yep, great little camera. Remember a test in a British photo magazine saying > "The photos are so sharp you'll want to cry." :-) > > I have the 35GT version. Inherited from my father who received it from his > colleagues on the occasion of his retirement, together with the matching > flash unit. Had to have it repaired twice, over the years. I understand > they're prone to shutter probs. Gave up on it when it broke yet again. Now, > it has a place of honour on my camera ancestors' shrine. > > But, boy, did it take great photos. Here's one of mine: > > https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/fuehrerstandsmitfahrten-fotoralfbe/44923299 Very nice! The 35GT-E and 35GT-X versions improved radically on robustness and reliability. Mine has never needed anything but an occasional fresh battery. The -E gave you manual ISO settings, the -X read the ISO from the film canister. That manual control of ISO nets full control of exposure so that's what I bought. Never regretted for one instant... :D G -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Am 05.07.24 um 14:13 schrieb Henk Terhell: This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor dragonflies. Great shot but shouldn't this have a PG rating. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
Am 05.07.24 um 18:20 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi However, this is arguably my all-time favorite compact 35mm camera. It's full-frame 24x36 mm format... Minox 35GT-E ::https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53837228803_b43a592cb9_b.jpg Yep, great little camera. Remember a test in a British photo magazine saying "The photos are so sharp you'll want to cry." :-) I have the 35GT version. Inherited from my father who received it from his colleagues on the occasion of his retirement, together with the matching flash unit. Had to have it repaired twice, over the years. I understand they're prone to shutter probs. Gave up on it when it broke yet again. Now, it has a place of honour on my camera ancestors' shrine. But, boy, did it take great photos. Here's one of mine: https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/fuehrerstandsmitfahrten-fotoralfbe/44923299 Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: emperor dragonflies
Henk, that PML does so well - way better than my screw drive HD on the K5. Another opportunity would be when they hover. Alan C On 05-Jul-24 02:13 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: This for me is the first time I was able to shoot a pair of emperor dragonflies. Just plain luck to see them 'in copula', busy shaking off another attacking dragonfly, close to where I was standing on the edge of woods. These emperors are always very fast in flight and the only other chance to shoot one is when the female is laying eggs on the water surface. https://flic.kr/p/2q26KAT Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
The Pentax 17 looks like a decent camera, albeit to my eye the styling seems a little clunky and I don't understand the need for all those controls and mode settings. The choice of half-frame 35 format is interesting, memories of a lot of fine photos made with Olympus Pen EE cameras comes to mind. However, this is arguably my all-time favorite compact 35mm camera. It's full-frame 24x36 mm format... Minox 35GT-E :: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53837228803_b43a592cb9_b.jpg I bought it new in 1998, cost about $400 IIRC. The lens is excellent quality, the negatives are terrific. The only thing it lacks, for me, is a full manual exposure setting capability, but the aperture priority auto plus manual ISO setting net all the adjustability I could want. With the lens door folded, it is smooth and compact, slips nicely even into a jeans pocket. The makrolon plastic construction is very tough and difficult to scratch. A few photos of it and with it: https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=23913128%40N02=date-taken-desc=Minox+35GT-E_all=1 I wish I could find as elegant, small, and simple a digital camera as the Minox 35GT-E. G > On Jul 4, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Stanley Halpin > wrote: > > > I wanted a visual of the size of the new 17 vs. the GRiii as a way to think > about the 17 and how I might carry/use it if I had one. I couldn’t find such > a visual so I decided to do one myself… > > https://zenfolio.page.link/SYCjG -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG is up
Ann's shot of the two hats is very amusing. It makes you wonder what the hat wearing observer is thinking there. Also I like the wall art (?) of Stan and Patrick. Henk Op 2024-07-04 om 12:29 schreef Brian Walters: G'day all Enjoy the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *****SPAM***** Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
Works for me... On 7/4/2024 2:59 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Maybe try this link… https://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e26b1d364 Sent from my iPad On Jul 4, 2024, at 7:44 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Invalid Dynamic Link Requested URL must be a parseable URI, but possibly incomplete to be a DynamicLink. On 7/4/2024 1:40 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I wanted a visual of the size of the new 17 vs. the GRiii as a way to think about the 17 and how I might carry/use it if I had one. I couldn’t find such a visual so I decided to do one myself… https://zenfolio.page.link/SYCjG -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an emailtopdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *****SPAM***** Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
Maybe try this link… https://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e26b1d364 Sent from my iPad > On Jul 4, 2024, at 7:44 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > Invalid Dynamic Link > Requested URL must be a parseable URI, but possibly incomplete to be a > DynamicLink. > > > >> On 7/4/2024 1:40 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: >> I wanted a visual of the size of the new 17 vs. the GRiii as a way to think >> about the 17 and how I might carry/use it if I had one. I couldn’t find such >> a visual so I decided to do one myself… >> >> >> >> https://zenfolio.page.link/SYCjG >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: *****SPAM***** Size Comparison of 17 and GRiii
Invalid Dynamic Link Requested URL must be a parseable URI, but possibly incomplete to be a DynamicLink. On 7/4/2024 1:40 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: I wanted a visual of the size of the new 17 vs. the GRiii as a way to think about the 17 and how I might carry/use it if I had one. I couldn’t find such a visual so I decided to do one myself… https://zenfolio.page.link/SYCjG -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG is up
Well done, chaps. Paul's framed shot at Bookworm Gardens really caught my eye. While I am at it, this is the current state of the Marula Tree: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/53825793433/ Alan C On 04-Jul-24 12:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Enjoy the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there). Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery, let me know. + Next up: 'Long Exposure' Full Submissions Guidelines are here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html You can submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia https://lyons-ryan.org/brians-pics/ -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG is up
Am 04.07.24 um 12:29 schrieb Brian Walters: G'day all Enjoy the gallery here: http://pug.komkon.org/ Klein aber fein, as they say here -> small but fine My thanks to all who have contributed. I haven't been able to find anything taken with Pentax hardware for this one. Next time "long exposure" I'll have a lot to chose from. Stay tuned... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves
Thanks Rick and Ralf > On Jul 2, 2024, at 6:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Larry, these are very nice. I have some questions: > > Did you California types have a partial solar eclipse that allowed you to > take the first photo? It’s very nice. Thanks, we did get a partial here. > > About the rattlesnake and lizard: I hope the snake was behind glass! If so, > how did you shoot it with no glare at all? Nope, it was on a trail, shot with the 18-270 at 270, I was a safe distance away. > > The Coors can shot is just kind of sad. So many people are slobs. We’ve done > a lot of hiking in the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and the amount of > trash we’ve sometimes hauled out has been remarkable. > > The second tractor pic, and the shot of the cellist, are both excellent. The > cellist’s concentration really shows. I like the brass ensemble too. Thanks a bunch. I've been photographing Riley, the trombonist, since he was about 12. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/15220150449/ His father Clint https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/27212760885/ mentors, or leads, several dance bands up in the Bay area. > > Cheers, > > Rick > >> On Jul 2, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> >> Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen: >>> The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the >>> filename has LRC in it) >>> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862 >> >> Nice work. Thanks for sharing. >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany >> Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Veg. garden invasion.
Oh dear. I have a similar problem with the neighbour's cats. They love to dig random holes in our garden and any seedlings in the way get uprooted. Everything has to be under netting or chicken wire. As they grow I'll place sticks or stones between them. Cheers, Dave > On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:17 PM, Alan C wrote: > > The joys of vegetable gardening! Last night a Porcupine devoured my whole > line of Pea seedlings. > The description is under the image. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/5382377/ > > K5 & DA 18-55 WR > > Alan C > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves
Larry, these are very nice. I have some questions: Did you California types have a partial solar eclipse that allowed you to take the first photo? It’s very nice. About the rattlesnake and lizard: I hope the snake was behind glass! If so, how did you shoot it with no glare at all? The Coors can shot is just kind of sad. So many people are slobs. We’ve done a lot of hiking in the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and the amount of trash we’ve sometimes hauled out has been remarkable. The second tractor pic, and the shot of the cellist, are both excellent. The cellist’s concentration really shows. I like the brass ensemble too. Cheers, Rick > On Jul 2, 2024, at 3:45 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen: >> The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the >> filename has LRC in it) >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862 > > Nice work. Thanks for sharing. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Veg. garden invasion.
What a prick! > On Jul 2, 2024, at 2:17 AM, Alan C wrote: > > The joys of vegetable gardening! Last night a Porcupine devoured my whole > line of Pea seedlings. > The description is under the image. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/5382377/ > > K5 & DA 18-55 WR > > Alan C > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Veg. garden invasion.
thats a bummer Dave On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 5:43 AM Alan C wrote: > The joys of vegetable gardening! Last night a Porcupine devoured my > whole line of Pea seedlings. > The description is under the image. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/5382377/ > > K5 & DA 18-55 WR > > Alan C > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Partially OT, 2nd quarter faves
Am 02.07.24 um 07:09 schrieb Larry Colen: The start and the end of the album was taken with Pentax gear (if the filename has LRC in it) https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720316112862 Nice work. Thanks for sharing. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2024 - 147, 148 - GDG
I could have sworn I saw that lock on the door a while back and liked then... nice selfie - which I havd not seen before. glad you are keeping out of trouble :-) ann On 6/29/2024 10:18 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Thank you all for you comments and subsequent emails on PESO 2024 #146. I truly appreciate it. For those asking about the Minox cameras and such I have for sale, I'll get to that in this coming week ... need to pull the boxes out of my closet and see exactly what I have to offer. Feel free to send more inquiries, I will get to them soon. :) In the meanwhile, I'm working my way through the Minox C roll I processed. One of the big differences between scanning Minox submini and 35 or 120 formats is that no matter how scrupulously clean you keep your processing work area and scanning rig, there is always a degree of dust spotting to deal with on every frame. LR Classic makes this easy—it has excellent tools and a great workflow for spotting—but it still takes a bit of extra time per frame. It's a part of the submini experience... [url=https://flic.kr/p/2q12sYy][img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53821540832_731df5395e_b.jpg[/img][/url] GDG Self Portrait :: https://flic.kr/p/2q12sYy Lock, Hasp, Gate - Santa Clara 2024 :: https://flic.kr/p/2q1caej both: Minox C, APX100 Scanned with Leica M10/M + Summicron-R 50/2 with bellows Enjoy! G On Jun 27, 2024, at 10:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi via groups.io wrote: First time I've run a roll of film through one of my Minox 8x11 subminis for a very long time. Leaves - Santa Clara 2024 :: https://flic.kr/p/2pZSZ5i Minox C, APX100 Scanned with Leica M10 Monochrom + Summicron-R 50mm f/2 on bellows The Minox C is a lovely camera to shoot with, albeit ISO 100 film ends up being a bit grainy and soft for this format; APX25 film returns much more detailed images. :) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Family snapshot
That came out well! Terns are rare here in Limpopo Lowveld, 200Km inland, but they do occasionally make excursions up the major rivers. Alan C On 28-Jun-24 12:37 PM, Toine wrote: I don't post photos that often, mainly because my Pentax gear is collecting dust (on the outside). Maybe this one because it was fun shooting: https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=DSCN5980-Enhanced-NR.jpg Shot from a birdwatch cabin which was a kind of reversed fish tank allowing me to shoot at water level. Toine -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Family snapshot
Am 28.06.24 um 12:37 schrieb Toine: Maybe this one because it was fun shooting: https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=DSCN5980-Enhanced-NR.jpg And it was fun looking. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Family snapshot
Very nice On June 28, 2024 3:37:03 AM PDT, Toine wrote: >I don't post photos that often, mainly because my Pentax gear is collecting >dust (on the outside). >Maybe this one because it was fun shooting: > >https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=DSCN5980-Enhanced-NR.jpg > >Shot from a birdwatch cabin which was a kind of reversed fish tank >allowing me to shoot at water level. > >Toine >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Family snapshot
Yes, common tern is correct. Bokeh is difficult in this case. A pentax 560 would be better but my wallet and back don't agree. This coolpix is 900 grams and 2000mm range. Toine On Fri, 28 Jun 2024, 15:39 Rick Womer, wrote: > I like the composition and colors a lot. The bokeh seems harsh, though. > > My bird ID app says it’s a common tern and chick, whose range is pretty > much the whole Northern Hemisphere. > > Rick > > > On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:37 AM, Toine wrote: > > > > I don't post photos that often, mainly because my Pentax gear is > collecting > > dust (on the outside). > > Maybe this one because it was fun shooting: > > > > https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=DSCN5980-Enhanced-NR.jpg > > > > Shot from a birdwatch cabin which was a kind of reversed fish tank > > allowing me to shoot at water level. > > > > Toine > > -- > > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Family snapshot
I like the composition and colors a lot. The bokeh seems harsh, though. My bird ID app says it’s a common tern and chick, whose range is pretty much the whole Northern Hemisphere. Rick > On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:37 AM, Toine wrote: > > I don't post photos that often, mainly because my Pentax gear is collecting > dust (on the outside). > Maybe this one because it was fun shooting: > > https://repiuk.nl/new/#pid=DSCN5980-Enhanced-NR.jpg > > Shot from a birdwatch cabin which was a kind of reversed fish tank > allowing me to shoot at water level. > > Toine > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2024 - 146 - GDG
Foxtail agave, according the plant ID app on my phone. Very nice photo! I think it is better in B than it would be in color. Rick > On Jun 28, 2024, at 1:53 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > First time I've run a roll of film through one of my Minox 8x11 subminis for > a very long time. > > Leaves - Santa Clara 2024 :: https://flic.kr/p/2pZSZ5i > Minox C, APX100 > Scanned with Leica M10 Monochrom + Summicron-R 50mm f/2 on bellows > > The Minox C is a lovely camera to shoot with, albeit ISO 100 film ends up > being a bit grainy and soft for this format; APX25 film returns much more > detailed images. :) > > enjoy! G > — > Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Return of the prodigal K-3 III
Larry, good luck with your repaired K-3 III. Your story makes me even more careful in carrying my cameras. Henk Op 2024-06-25 om 01:08 schreef Larry Colen: My K-3 III was delivered today after being repaired by Precision. It took just over a month from my sending it in, they had to wait a couple of weeks for a replacement top plate. One might think that if service were their goal, they'd keep a better stock of spare parts on hand. sigh. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: back caps and body caps
Yes, they extend out to completely cover/protect the contacts. They also have a rubber O-ring that help with some friction to keep the cap from turning and keeps any dust from getting to be back of the lens. -p On 6/24/2024 12:53 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: Thanks, do they actually cover/protect the electrical contacts? On June 24, 2024 10:46:21 AM PDT, Paul Sorenson wrote: I've had good luck with caps by OP/TECH USA from Amazon. Over the years I've used both their singles and doubles. Never had one come loose or fall off. https://tinyurl.com/5n7y2xhm -p On 6/24/2024 12:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I've found there to be a tremendous range in both quality and price of K-mount back caps for lenses. I have not found there to be consistent correlation between quality and price though. Some of them will tighten down nicely and stay attached, others will stay loose and just fall off. Has anybody found good deals on quality K-mount back caps? Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.comsent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an emailtopdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: back caps and body caps
Thanks, do they actually cover/protect the electrical contacts? On June 24, 2024 10:46:21 AM PDT, Paul Sorenson wrote: >I've had good luck with caps by OP/TECH USA from Amazon. Over the years I've >used both their singles and doubles. Never had one come loose or fall off. > >https://tinyurl.com/5n7y2xhm > >-p > >On 6/24/2024 12:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> I've found there to be a tremendous range in both quality and price of >> K-mount back caps for lenses. I have not found there to be consistent >> correlation between quality and price though. Some of them will tighten >> down nicely and stay attached, others will stay loose and just fall off. >> Has anybody found good deals on quality K-mount back caps? >> >> Larry >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est >> >> >> >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: back caps and body caps
I've had good luck with caps by OP/TECH USA from Amazon. Over the years I've used both their singles and doubles. Never had one come loose or fall off. https://tinyurl.com/5n7y2xhm -p On 6/24/2024 12:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I've found there to be a tremendous range in both quality and price of K-mount back caps for lenses. I have not found there to be consistent correlation between quality and price though. Some of them will tighten down nicely and stay attached, others will stay loose and just fall off. Has anybody found good deals on quality K-mount back caps? Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email topdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Thanks Mark, that is good information. > On Jun 24, 2024, at 10:14 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > I shoot DNG exclusively (though I usually run the files through DNG > Converter when downloading because I can have it do file renaming at > the same time and it gets me to the latest spec DNG) for 3 reasons, in > increasing order of importance: > > 1 - Files are smaller than PEF > > 2 - The open format of DNG (it's based on TIFF) is better for future > compatibility than almost anything else (except possibly TIFF itself > and JPEG) > > 3 - The embedded MD-5 hash makes file validation possible en mass, > that is to say, without opening files and looking at them. (This final > item is largely why the Library of Congress adopted DNG as its > archiving format.) > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
I shoot DNG exclusively (though I usually run the files through DNG Converter when downloading because I can have it do file renaming at the same time and it gets me to the latest spec DNG) for 3 reasons, in increasing order of importance: 1 - Files are smaller than PEF 2 - The open format of DNG (it's based on TIFF) is better for future compatibility than almost anything else (except possibly TIFF itself and JPEG) 3 - The embedded MD-5 hash makes file validation possible en mass, that is to say, without opening files and looking at them. (This final item is largely why the Library of Congress adopted DNG as its archiving format.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Quick survey
I shoot DNG - never did a comparison so do not know which is better. Just assumed it is the same. Patrick -Original Message- From: Paul Sorenson Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 5:47 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Quick survey Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 10:33:10PM +0200, Henk Terhell wrote: > That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of > JPEG and TIFF. > My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. That was exactly the course I took (well, JPEG+DNG). I continued doing this when I moved on to a K5. (And nowadays I'm shooting JPEG+ORF) -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Thanks everyone, for your responses. The question came up in another forum which has few Pentax users so I thought I'd poll the group of "real" Pentax users. With few exceptions, DNG has been my format of choice since my DS days as well. -p On 6/23/2024 10:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAFA visit
What a place. Fine images. A sad story but surely they will work something out. Alan C On 24-Jun-24 01:50 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Stan! There are rumors about keeping it open as a museum. We shall see. Rick On Jun 23, 2024, at 7:45 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Looks like a beautiful building, a fine center for exhibitions. Your handful of images provide a sense of the feeling and atmosphere of the place, and it is sad that it will be closing. Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: A few months ago we visited the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts (PAFA), having heard good things about their galleries. As usual I had my camera along. The number of open galleries was limited, as was some of the lighting, so there are only five photos here. Unfortunately,PAFA recently declared bankruptcy. It will allow juniors and seniors to finish their degrees, but other students are out of luck. Lawyers are prospering. https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2024/February-2024/PAFA-2-24/PAFA-Pix-2-10-24 Comments always appreciated! Rick -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Yes. My K110D only offers PEF. When I occasionally use it, I convert to DNG which is the universal standard. Alan C On 23-Jun-24 10:33 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of JPEG and TIFF. My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. Henk Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: Always DNG, never tried PEF. No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the first to offer DNG. Ralf -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
I shoot PEF, and convert to DNG on import with Lightroom ("Copy as DNG").
The reason I do this is that when Lightroom does the conversion, it embeds
a checksum that can later be used with "Library > Validate DNG Files" to
verify that no disk corruption has occurred. At least at the time I decided
to do things this way, DNG as shot by my cameras did not embed this
checksum.
Once a month, I select all the photos in my catalog and run the Validate
task. (Knock on wood, it has never found an error so far.)
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Re: PAFA visit
Thanks, Larry! > On Jun 23, 2024, at 6:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > >> On Jun 23, 2024, at 2:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> A few months ago we visited the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts >> (PAFA), having heard good things about their galleries. As usual I had my >> camera along. The number of open galleries was limited, as was some of the >> lighting, so there are only five photos here. > > But five very nice ones > >> >> Unfortunately, PAFA recently declared bankruptcy. It will allow >> juniors and seniors to finish their degrees, but other students are out of >> luck. Lawyers are prospering. >> >> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2024/February-2024/PAFA-2-24/PAFA-Pix-2-10-24 >> >> Comments always appreciated! >> >> Rick >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood > > > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAFA visit
Thanks, Stan! There are rumors about keeping it open as a museum. We shall see. Rick > On Jun 23, 2024, at 7:45 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > > Looks like a beautiful building, a fine center for exhibitions. Your handful > of images provide a sense of the feeling and atmosphere of the place, and it > is sad that it will be closing. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 23, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> A few months ago we visited the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts >> (PAFA), having heard good things about their galleries. As usual I had my >> camera along. The number of open galleries was limited, as was some of the >> lighting, so there are only five photos here. >> >> Unfortunately,PAFA recently declared bankruptcy. It will allow juniors >> and seniors to finish their degrees, but other students are out of luck. >> Lawyers are prospering. >> >> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2024/February-2024/PAFA-2-24/PAFA-Pix-2-10-24 >> >> Comments always appreciated! >> >> Rick >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAFA visit
Looks like a beautiful building, a fine center for exhibitions. Your handful of images provide a sense of the feeling and atmosphere of the place, and it is sad that it will be closing. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 23, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > A few months ago we visited the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts > (PAFA), having heard good things about their galleries. As usual I had my > camera along. The number of open galleries was limited, as was some of the > lighting, so there are only five photos here. > > Unfortunately,PAFA recently declared bankruptcy. It will allow juniors > and seniors to finish their degrees, but other students are out of luck. > Lawyers are prospering. > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2024/February-2024/PAFA-2-24/PAFA-Pix-2-10-24 > > Comments always appreciated! > > Rick > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAFA visit
> On Jun 23, 2024, at 2:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > A few months ago we visited the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts (PAFA), > having heard good things about their galleries. As usual I had my camera > along. The number of open galleries was limited, as was some of the > lighting, so there are only five photos here. But five very nice ones > > Unfortunately,PAFA recently declared bankruptcy. It will allow > juniors and seniors to finish their degrees, but other students are out of > luck. Lawyers are prospering. > > https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2024/February-2024/PAFA-2-24/PAFA-Pix-2-10-24 > > Comments always appreciated! > > Rick > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
The *ist-D allowed you to save as PEF, TIF or JPG. Herbert Kepler recommended TIF in his Popular Photography column, so that's what I shot in 2004. IIRC, the TIF was available in small, medium & large, which I didn't understand at the time. After I got home in 2005 & could buy more CF cards fairly easily, I switched to PEF. Continued to shoot PEF when I finally got a K10D. Began shooting DNG files late in 2012 when I got a K20D. Occasionally I would shoot JPEG (when I would somehow gum up the settings) or RAW+JPEG With the K-3 & K-1 I've shot exclusively DNG. With the VueScan software, I can also save files from my scanners as DNG. On 6/23/2024 3:25 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: Always DNG, never tried PEF. No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the first to offer DNG. Ralf -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
DNG On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
That's true, I recall now that I did use PEF on my *istD, but also a lot of JPEG and TIFF. My next camera was the K10D and I always had it on DNG. Henk Op 2024-06-23 om 21:25 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: Always DNG, never tried PEF. No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the first to offer DNG. Ralf -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
PEF. Because Adobe. > On 23/06/2024 16:46 BST Paul Sorenson wrote: > > > Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Am 23.06.24 um 21:06 schrieb Henk Terhell: Always DNG, never tried PEF. No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. The earliest Pentax DSLRs up to the *istDS had no DNG. The K10D was the first to offer DNG. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Always DNG, never tried PEF. No doubt the future for Adobe's DNG is more bright than for PEF. Henk Op 2024-06-23 om 17:46 schreef Paul Sorenson: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
Am 23.06.24 um 17:46 schrieb Paul Sorenson: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? DNG. No difference in picture quality but I suppose it might be a bit more future-proof. Then again, how much of a future is left for the average PDMLer? ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
DNG. The results and the process are identical in my experience. Paul > On Jun 23, 2024, at 1:36 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > what all those other guys said :-) > (aside to Paul - I noticed my first response only went to you.. when no one > said "what ann said" ) > > ann > >> On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: >> Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you >> better results or is a better choice than the other? >> >> -p >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
What Ann said. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 23, 2024, at 1:35 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > what all those other guys said :-) > (aside to Paul - I noticed my first response only went to you.. when no one > said "what ann said" ) > > ann > >> On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: >> Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you >> better results or is a better choice than the other? >> >> -p >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > ann sanfedele photography > https://annsan.smugmug.com > https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts > https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan > https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
what all those other guys said :-) (aside to Paul - I noticed my first response only went to you.. when no one said "what ann said" ) ann On 6/23/2024 11:46 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
What Larry said. On 6/23/24 12:24 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote: I shoot them as dng. No difference in quality, but dng seems to be a more common standard On June 23, 2024 8:46:40 AM PDT, Paul Sorenson wrote: Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you better results or is a better choice than the other? -p -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
What Larry said. Rick On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 12:33 wrote: > I shoot them as dng. No difference in quality, but dng seems to be a more > common standard > > On June 23, 2024 8:46:40 AM PDT, Paul Sorenson > wrote: > >Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives > you better results or is a better choice than the other? > > > >-p > >-- > >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Quick survey
I shoot them as dng. No difference in quality, but dng seems to be a more common standard On June 23, 2024 8:46:40 AM PDT, Paul Sorenson wrote: >Do you shoot your RAW files as DNGs or PEFs? Have you found one gives you >better results or is a better choice than the other? > >-p >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Well I hope they continue to sell out. On 6/20/2024 10:48 AM, Bill wrote: Apparently the first run of cameras has already sold out and the Japanese web store is so overwhelmed that they have temporarily stopped taking pre-orders. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On 6/20/2024 9:01 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 20.06.24 um 16:48 schrieb Bill: Apparently the first run of cameras has already sold ... The first run must have been quite a shipload that was given to an army of influencers, judging from the deluge of jubilant Pentax 17 videos on Youtube. Ralf I doubt if the influencer crowd got more than a hundred cameras handed out in total, and that is very cheap advertising. The first run sold out within a day as it turns out. At the moment, it looks like it is more than a successful release. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Am 20.06.24 um 16:48 schrieb Bill: Apparently the first run of cameras has already sold ... The first run must have been quite a shipload that was given to an army of influencers, judging from the deluge of jubilant Pentax 17 videos on Youtube. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
Watching from afar, my impression was that recent governments in the UK had no Opinions. Rather, they had Positions, and said Positions might change daily or weekly depending on feedback from donors and/or polling organizations. (Not unlike a few other governments I can think of.) Stan > On Jun 19, 2024, at 3:42 AM, Bob W PDML wrote: > > Recent governments in the UK have been of the opinion that wildlife is not a > profit centre, and therefore of no use. > > ... > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
Nice image, interesting landscape and topography - a little too rugged for my 83 year old body. -p On 6/18/2024 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
I loved walking there. As usual, beautiful photos… they take me back! Rick > On Jun 18, 2024, at 6:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch > after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
Recent governments in the UK have been of the opinion that wildlife is not a profit centre, and therefore of no use. Mark, is that a vertical and horizontal stitching? > On 19 Jun 2024, at 09:30, Alan C wrote: > > That worked well. I searched the whole Pano for wildlife but only found one > bird! > > Alan C > >> On 19-Jun-24 09:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >> Nice! >> On Jun 18, 2024, at 3:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >>> >>> Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch >>> after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ >>> >>> -- >>> -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax 17
mike wilson wrote: > The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, > it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch > of people in God's waiting room. We are both talking about the camera that uses a way outdated and very expensive imaging technology, aren't we? In which case, anyone buying a superfluous and expensive unit when there are arguably better and certainly substantially cheaper options seems to be a few frames short of a roll. I've still got Pentax film cameras if I want to play with film. The thing I don't want to have is more to scan to use digitally. I already have thousands of slides still to scan + my late father's negatives to do. Photography should be fun, not another job on the 'to-do' list. Malcolm -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
That worked well. I searched the whole Pano for wildlife but only found one bird! Alan C On 19-Jun-24 09:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Nice! On Jun 18, 2024, at 3:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ -- Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia www.robertstech.com 617-276-7369 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another UK pano
Nice! > On Jun 18, 2024, at 3:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Just discovered 5 images on my hard drive that I forgot to stitch > after our Cumbria Way walk. Here's the result: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/166715344@N04/53800935843/in/album-72177720317448943/ > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com. sent from Mirkwood -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
I did a new build last year based on a Gigabyte Aorus MB and Aorus video card. I chose the MB because it supported 4 x M.2 cards on the MB which are significantly faster than anything going through the SATA buss. The only other card I attached to the MB is the video card, but there are many slots available for other stuff. One thing that surprised me is that the system tests faster with less ram than I expected, and I ended up installing 64gb of ram instead of the 128gb that I had initially planned on. Gigabyte does make some pretty snazzy gear. I did end up with liquid cooling on the advice of the guy who did the actual build. So far I'm happy with what I ended up with. bill On 6/18/2024 10:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling reason. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
John Francis wrote: >On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:59:05PM +0200, Toine wrote: >> Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a >> RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise >> drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 > >If you do go for a 3060, though, you're definitely going to want good cooling. >On my system (a regular Dell tower with 8 Gen 11 i9 cores and an rtx 3060 Ti) >running the GPU at 30% jumps the reported temperature up from 48c to 68c. After a little research I'm thinking I'll have to settle for less horsepower than the 3060, for reasons of both heat and noise. I'll also be recording audio in my computer room and I want as quiet a system as I can get (I currently have a fanless graphics card). -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 10:59:05PM +0200, Toine wrote: > Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the > last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and > needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an > i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an > i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets > run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a > RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise > drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 If you do go for a 3060, though, you're definitely going to want good cooling. On my system (a regular Dell tower with 8 Gen 11 i9 cores and an rtx 3060 Ti) running the GPU at 30% jumps the reported temperature up from 48c to 68c. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Yeah, I would expect that a new GPU would give you the most bang for your buck. If you can upgrade the CPU without upgrading your MOBO, that would give a good boost with less risk of finding out that your new mobo doesn't support some bus that one of your old cards needs, or suchlike. It would be very interesting if you could do some sort of benchmark before and after each upgrade. Have lightroom build a 12 frame HDR pano, and then do a denoise on it. Then do the same thing on the same files, each time you upgrade. I suspect that more memory would make more difference without the GPU, since they often have their own memory. > On Jun 18, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Toine wrote: > > Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the > last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and > needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an > i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an > i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets > run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a > RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise > drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 18:08, Mark Roberts > wrote: > >> I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard >> (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm >> thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any >> input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be >> used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in >> the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling >> reason. >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia >> www.robertstech.com >> 617-276-7369 >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
Any major brand is ok (MSI, Asus, Asrock). I would pick Intel, one of the last generation (13th 14th). i7 is fast enough, i9 runs very hot and needs max power. add 32Gb Ram or more. I would go for a liquid cooler on an i7 or i9. Peak power is simply too much for most air coolers (I ruined an i7 on aircooling). BeQuiet power supplies, aircoolers and system cabinets run very quietly. Last but not least: add a nvidia GPU, something like a RTX 3060 at minimum. Lightroom, photoshop etc all use the GPU. Denoise drops from 9 minutes to 9 sec on an rtx3060 On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 18:08, Mark Roberts wrote: > I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard > (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm > thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any > input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be > used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in > the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling > reason. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Motherboard upgrade: Seeking advice from all (but it's probably gonna be mostly from Larry)
I wish I could help, but I haven't been keeping up. I've just been buying used mac gear from a friend with a shop in Santa Cruz (Pacific Macs). A couple other people on the list have built up new machines in the past year and would know better than me what to look for. A while back the mobo in my home Linux box fried, I bought a used mobo from a friend, and then it wouldn't boot off the drives I had or something crazy like that. So what I've mostly learned is weird and unexpected things lose compatibility and you're likely to need to replace half your system for more than the cost of just buying a new system. In a related note, I recently put together a RAID NAS with "renewed" drives off Amazon. I'm glad that it's RAID, and second level of backup, because last night one of the drives already crapped out. For primary storage it would probably be worth paying $310/drive rather than $170. > On Jun 18, 2024, at 9:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > I've been having computer problems that I've traced to the motherboard > (to about 99% certainty) and, as I'm long overdue for an upgrade, I'm > thinking it's time to go for a new motherboard. I'm interested in any > input and recommendations anyone might have to offer. This will be > used for mostly photography work. I've been happy with AMD stuff in > the past but I'm open to Intel-based boards if there's a compelling > reason. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography and Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 617-276-7369 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Am 18.06.24 um 16:15 schrieb Bob W PDML: 35mm landscape is the best format for shooting coffins. MARK! -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos :https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On 18 Jun 2024, at 16:01, Bill wrote: > > > […] > Now I don't sit on the Ricoh board of directors, but then nobody who posts > here does either, and to be blunt, the target market for this camera are > people who are half a century younger than the average age of the soon to be > crated and put into underground storage inhabitants of the PDML. > > bill > 35mm landscape is the best format for shooting coffins. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On 6/18/2024 7:11 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 14:03 BST Bill wrote: On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. A lot more usable than I was expecting. A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight robbery, I know which I would choose. The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in God's waiting room. We are both talking about the camera that uses a way outdated and very expensive imaging technology, aren't we? In which case, anyone buying a superfluous and expensive unit when there are arguably better and certainly substantially cheaper options seems to be a few frames short of a roll. Apparently Pentax figures there are enough people out there who want to shoot film who will also want new film cameras and the advantages that new provides. Now I don't sit on the Ricoh board of directors, but then nobody who posts here does either, and to be blunt, the target market for this camera are people who are half a century younger than the average age of the soon to be crated and put into underground storage inhabitants of the PDML. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Am 17.06.24 um 22:42 schrieb Bob W PDML: £499 in the UK. To me, it doesn't look like a Pentax and, even worse, it doesn't look like something that should cost 500 quid. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On Jun 18, 2024, at 9:03 AM, Bill wrote: > > The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's > that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in > God's waiting room. > > bill Exactly. I am most likely using the cameras I will die with-- a K1 and K3. Gave away or sold all my darkroom equipment years ago. Film involves work. I’m too old for wotk! Paul > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On 18/06/2024 14:03 BST Bill wrote: > > > On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: > >> On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > >>> > On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: > > It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. > >>> A lot more usable than I was expecting. > >>> > A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. > >>> About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been > >>> about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. > >> I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + > >> 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, > >> but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. > > The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) > > the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight > > robbery, I know which I would choose. > > The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, > it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of > people in God's waiting room. We are both talking about the camera that uses a way outdated and very expensive imaging technology, aren't we? In which case, anyone buying a superfluous and expensive unit when there are arguably better and certainly substantially cheaper options seems to be a few frames short of a roll. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On 6/18/2024 12:47 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. A lot more usable than I was expecting. A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight robbery, I know which I would choose. The problem with the camera from the POV of the PDML isn't the camera, it's that we are all too fucking old. The target market isn't a bunch of people in God's waiting room. bill -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
> On 18/06/2024 05:05 BST John Francis wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: > > > > > > It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. > > > > A lot more usable than I was expecting. > > > > > A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. > > > > About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been > > about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. > > I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + > 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, > but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. The place in the UK offering the new beastie also offers (when in stock) the K1000 for over £100 less. Although that in itself is daylight robbery, I know which I would choose. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 04:03:50PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:57 PM, Bill wrote: > > > > It looks a lot more complete than I was expecting. > > A lot more usable than I was expecting. > > > A little more expensive as well, but then, it is a Pentax.0. > > About the same as 120 gallons of gas, in early 1973 that would have been > about $40, in 1974 that would have been about $60. I can't remember exactly how much I paiid for my first Pentax (SP II + 50mm/f1.4) in 1972, but I'm pretty sure I paid significantly more than that. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 145 - Not A Door - GDG
Thanks Ann! It was warm and sunny here today (about 80-82° at peak) but dry as a bone and a bit windy, so I didn't feel it at all on my walk. I didn't carry a camera ... spent the walk listening to another book on physics and cosmology by Carlo Rovelli. ;) G — "No matter where you go, there you are." > On Jun 17, 2024, at 3:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > > well I /adore/ it :-) > > good to see a post from you -- hope you are keeping cool > > ann > > > On 6/17/2024 5:23 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> This appealed to me, saw it while out on my walk the other day. >> >>Not A Door :: https://flic.kr/p/2pXVDCG >> -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 17
Bob W PDML wrote: >£499 in the UK. > >https://analoguewonderland.co.uk/products/pentax-17-35mm-film-camera?utm_source=Klaviyo_medium=email_campaign=P17%20Launch%20%2801J0JYBP11MHH3ZATZKFNC4YCG%29_source=klaviyo&_kx=b_LcnNXhQCJBhLdWaXpSIJttvJ07EUU9zBZusFUDQQs.PM5vmq Interesting. Not my cup of tea, but I'm so far outside the intended demographic I might as well be in orbit. At first I thought the portrait mode framing was odd, but then I remembered this camera is being targeted at an audience who regards that as default because they've grown up on smartphone cameras. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
