Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?
On 19/5/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? Don't forget the Martians ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/20 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 19/5/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? Don't forget the Martians ;-) No prob. That ball has a 24 hour cycle too. Give or take an hour or so for the travelling radio signal. The Venusians, however... :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Fine. I'll see if I can sort out payment in the same way as previously. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? On May 19, 2009, at 16:00 , mike wilson wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: If anyone is interested, I have a 90° eyepiece that will lock onto any of the Adaptall ][ lenses without the adapter, giving you a (fill in your focal length[s] here) spotting scope or telescope. Best offer over $25. It's really nice. With case. I've used it with my 80-200 with great results when I wasn't there for photography. Bright image too! Interested. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/20 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 19/5/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? Don't forget the Martians ;-) No prob. That ball has a 24 hour cycle too. Give or take an hour or so for the travelling radio signal. The Venusians, however... :-) Neither would pay the shipping. Cotty/Mark are we OK for the same again? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/5/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty/Mark are we OK for the same again? fine by me -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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OK, we can talk about those things now. All those autocorrections are great for jpeg-shooters. I wouldn't dispute about the effect (or effectiveness) as there's still no final firmware. There's also raw-eaters league who rely rather on post-processing. Have ANYONE seen the new bundled software (version 4)? At least not me... BR, Margus Thibouille wrote: CA and distortion autocorrection in body. The tamron probably will not do it but your other lenses will do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No, but CA/distortion is working with RAW. I suppose we will have to wait for 3rd parties softwares to support K-7 (and its corrections) before having a real good solution. No, I don't expect Pentax Raw software to be suddenly very usable :( 2009/5/20 Margus Männik mar...@eol.ee: OK, we can talk about those things now. All those autocorrections are great for jpeg-shooters. I wouldn't dispute about the effect (or effectiveness) as there's still no final firmware. There's also raw-eaters league who rely rather on post-processing. Have ANYONE seen the new bundled software (version 4)? At least not me... BR, Margus Thibouille wrote: CA and distortion autocorrection in body. The tamron probably will not do it but your other lenses will do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/20 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: On 19/5/09, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? Don't forget the Martians ;-) No prob. That ball has a 24 hour cycle too. Give or take an hour or so for the travelling radio signal. The Venusians, however... :-) The outer planets were given notice 36 hours previous to my post for earthlings. None responded. None shall benefit from my benevolence. Joe If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:27:31AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: I know that when mounted on my D and DS the 1.7x identifies itself as an A lens, yet it will auto focus, while with normal A lenses the camera won't even turn on the AF motor. So at minimum it lets the camera know it is capable of auto focus even though it's an A lens, which if you think about it is either a really neat trick or exceeding simple minded, (or maybe both).. If I was Pentax, I would have a switch, worked by the screwdriver, that turned the AF motor on/off, depending whether the driver was in or out of its hole. Maybe a halfturn anyway, to make sure that there was no slot to engage to. There are some edge cases -- like Tamron adaptall 2 adapters with a non-auto-focus lens attached to them -- that would make this a rather unfortunate default. Why? The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. Not by my understanding of how AF systems work. Is there something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do need is a decent amount of light. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Thibouille You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. WHAT feature of the K-7 is DA/DFA only? I find myself unable to give a damn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You need to try a little harder Mike. Come on, you can do it! -- MaritimTim 2009/5/19 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I find myself unable to give a damn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/19 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I find myself unable to give a damn. Mark! me too, btw. If I believed that camera development took just a couple of months, I could easily have imagined that Pentax had read my wish list for their next DSLR. Only I posted my list in February. This year... :-) http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/02/my-next-camera-wishlist.html Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If I believed that camera development took just a couple of months, I could easily have imagined that Pentax had read my wish list for their next DSLR. Only I posted my list in February. This year... :-) Hm, I do not see that they did that much from your list? http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/02/my-next-camera-wishlist.html I don't know whether personally I'd ask for fuel cells or SSDs. No one in here for a swivel display? The new resolution sounds great. Let's see how bright and power consuming this will be. - Martin -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/19 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Thibouille You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. WHAT feature of the K-7 is DA/DFA only? I find myself unable to give a damn. Ditto. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/19 Martin Trautmann tr...@gmx.de: Hm, I do not see that they did that much from your list? Well, they've addressed my top priority point. I'd be happy to settle for that. Thanks for actually bothering to read my meanderings, btw. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/02/my-next-camera-wishlist.html I don't know whether personally I'd ask for fuel cells or SSDs. I think I emphasised it was my personal list. Make your own, be constructive. :-) No one in here for a swivel display? I'd be well served with an angle viewfinder for my work, but I see how some would find that useful. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:06:05AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:27:31AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: If I was Pentax, I would have a switch, worked by the screwdriver, that turned the AF motor on/off, depending whether the driver was in or out of its hole. Maybe a halfturn anyway, to make sure that there was no slot to engage to. There are some edge cases -- like Tamron adaptall 2 adapters with a non-auto-focus lens attached to them -- that would make this a rather unfortunate default. Why? Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. Not by my understanding of how AF systems work. Is there something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do need is a decent amount of light. I think it's connected to the shake reduction. So far as I can tell in the case of the K20D, autofocus and shake reduction are really one combined system with different sensor inputs and mechanical parts, but which meet up in the electronic controls. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: You need to try a little harder Mike. Come on, you can do it! I think I just herniated myself. -- MaritimTim 2009/5/19 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: I find myself unable to give a damn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:06:05AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:27:31AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: If I was Pentax, I would have a switch, worked by the screwdriver, that turned the AF motor on/off, depending whether the driver was in or out of its hole. Maybe a halfturn anyway, to make sure that there was no slot to engage to. There are some edge cases -- like Tamron adaptall 2 adapters with a non-auto-focus lens attached to them -- that would make this a rather unfortunate default. Why? Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. Not by my understanding of how AF systems work. Is there something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do need is a decent amount of light. I think it's connected to the shake reduction. So far as I can tell in the case of the K20D, autofocus and shake reduction are really one combined system with different sensor inputs and mechanical parts, but which meet up in the electronic controls. I don't see how the AF system would need to know the FL of a lens to work. It just measures contrast and stops everything when it is highest. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:16:17PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: [gunch] Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount-specific adaptor. If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything. That's the unusual edge case. I don't imagine the problem would arise with a Pentax M lens. The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. Not by my understanding of how AF systems work. Is there something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do need is a decent amount of light. I think it's connected to the shake reduction. So far as I can tell in the case of the K20D, autofocus and shake reduction are really one combined system with different sensor inputs and mechanical parts, but which meet up in the electronic controls. I don't see how the AF system would need to know the FL of a lens to work. It just measures contrast and stops everything when it is highest. AF doesn't, but the shake reduction does, and the autofocus and the shake reduction talk to each other. I don't know why, or how; I do know the K20D firmware upgrade that was supposed to improve anti-shake increased autofocus speed. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? AF doesn't, but the shake reduction does, and the autofocus and the shake reduction talk to each other. I don't think so. I don't know why, or how; I do know the K20D firmware upgrade that was supposed to improve anti-shake increased autofocus speed. I suspect that is an undocumented upgrade if in fact there is a speed improvement. I haven't noticed anything different from an AF perspective with the new firmware. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount-specific adaptor. If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything. AFAIK there is no Tamron Adaptall AF lenses except bastard ones equivallent to the early A35-70/2.8 which came with the ME-F, nor is there an adaptall AF adapter. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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As long as the screwdriver pin is pushed back into the mount by the lens mount plate, the motor is turned off. Only when the pin is first rotated by the motor and CAN engage the lens slot in it's first revolution will the motor continue to be active and drive the lens focus. On May 19, 2009, at 08:16 , mike wilson wrote: Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Graydon wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:16:17PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: [gunch] Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount-specific adaptor. If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything. That's the unusual edge case. I don't imagine the problem would arise with a Pentax M lens. The Adaptall Kmount adaptors replicate either K/M or A lenses. I don't think there are _any_ autofocus ones, never mind Kmount ones. I use my Tamron 300/2.8, 90/2.5 and 70-210 zoom on my LX, ME Super, Z1-p and DL2 with no problems whatsoever, using whichever adaptor happens to be installed at the time. No sign of adaptor damage. The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. Not by my understanding of how AF systems work. Is there something different in the K10/20 systems? What they generally do need is a decent amount of light. I think it's connected to the shake reduction. So far as I can tell in the case of the K20D, autofocus and shake reduction are really one combined system with different sensor inputs and mechanical parts, but which meet up in the electronic controls. I don't see how the AF system would need to know the FL of a lens to work. It just measures contrast and stops everything when it is highest. AF doesn't, but the shake reduction does, and the autofocus and the shake reduction talk to each other. I don't know why, or how; I do know the K20D firmware upgrade that was supposed to improve anti-shake increased autofocus speed. I wonder if the antishake confuses the AF by reducing apparent contrast unless the correct FL is known, thereby allowing some software cludge. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:16:17PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: [gunch] Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount-specific adaptor. If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything. No Adaptall mounts support AF. There are 2 versions for K mount, one is plain K and the second is KA (but not 100% KA, as aperture reporting via contacts is only accurate within certain limits). Some Chinese clones also exist, but are essentially uncoupled preset adapters that are really an uncoupled M42 mount on a M42-K adapter. AF confirm Adaptall adapters exist for other mounts (but are the same chinese uncoupled stacked m42 setup) but those only enable AF confirm (and Av mode on some Sony bodies). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If anyone is interested, I have a 90° eyepiece that will lock onto any of the Adaptall ][ lenses without the adapter, giving you a (fill in your focal length[s] here) spotting scope or telescope. Best offer over $25. It's really nice. With case. I've used it with my 80-200 with great results when I wasn't there for photography. Bright image too! On May 19, 2009, at 12:32 , Adam Maas wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:16:17PM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: [gunch] Because the screwdriver is there on the adapter, but there's nothing in the lens to adjust. I don't want the camera body trying to turn something it can't to find out if anything adjusts. And yes I could set the camera body to MF before mounting the lens, but forgetting should not have dire mechanical consequences. It doesn't. I use M series lenses all the time on my DL2, leaving AF on so that I can use focus confrim and trap focus. Been doing that for just over three years and for another mumblemumble years with my Z1-p. I cannot see any marks on my lens mounts at all. With the Adaptall 2 adaptor, there's a lens, and then a mount- specific adaptor. If the lens is pure MF, and the adaptor -- because that's what one can get off ebay -- supports auto-focus, the camera has absolutely no way to tell that the screw drive isn't connected to anything. No Adaptall mounts support AF. There are 2 versions for K mount, one is plain K and the second is KA (but not 100% KA, as aperture reporting via contacts is only accurate within certain limits). Some Chinese clones also exist, but are essentially uncoupled preset adapters that are really an uncoupled M42 mount on a M42-K adapter. AF confirm Adaptall adapters exist for other mounts (but are the same chinese uncoupled stacked m42 setup) but those only enable AF confirm (and Av mode on some Sony bodies). Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Joseph McAllister wrote: If anyone is interested, I have a 90° eyepiece that will lock onto any of the Adaptall ][ lenses without the adapter, giving you a (fill in your focal length[s] here) spotting scope or telescope. Best offer over $25. It's really nice. With case. I've used it with my 80-200 with great results when I wasn't there for photography. Bright image too! Interested. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You are the only one in five hours. I'd like to wait 24 hours to allow the whole globe to check in. If no one does, it's yours for $25 plus ship, ok? On May 19, 2009, at 16:00 , mike wilson wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: If anyone is interested, I have a 90° eyepiece that will lock onto any of the Adaptall ][ lenses without the adapter, giving you a (fill in your focal length[s] here) spotting scope or telescope. Best offer over $25. It's really nice. With case. I've used it with my 80-200 with great results when I wasn't there for photography. Bright image too! Interested. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: Well, nobody forces you to read anything. If you read, you wanted it. So, he should have known what the post was about before he actually read it. Do you care to explain how? Are you perhaps saying that everything you are going to contribute here will be meaningless and slightly annoying, so that everyone can just skip it based on the sender alone? - T On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I'm really looking forward to next week so we can be done with these smug I know something *you* don't postings that contain absolutely no useful information. Either post real details or STFU. This email and any files contained therein is confidential and may contain privileged information. If you are not the named addressee(s) or you have otherwise received this in error, you should not distribute or copy this e-mail or use any of its content for any purpose. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail in error and delete it from your system -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That would sound reasonable, not something I would miss too much though, I've lived without it long enough!. Better frame rate 5fps+ Better high ISO performance The ability to override SR manually Higher top shutter speed 1/8000th sec In that order would have me thinking of upgrading, but I'd prefer the size/build of the K20D Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will remember a while back the discussion of the new Pentax copyright for a lens mount / sealing rings? I suspect the DA and DFA, which have two different types of rubber 'O' ring, one called WR, the other not mentioned, will both be accommodated in the new camera. I'm not going to look, but I don't know if any of the FA and older lenses have any 'O' ring at all. The newest lenses will have more of an 'O' skirt, if my memory serves. On May 17, 2009, at 10:40 , John Whittingham wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer 2009/5/18 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Why would I want to? On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I find it amusing. Keep going if it suits you and you know you'll never meet up with Bob or John or Mark at GFM... :-0 On May 17, 2009, at 14:01 , Thibouille wrote: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ooh err missus! John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Cotty [cotty...@mac.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 23:41 To: pentax list Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Steady on chaps, it's all just a bit of fun. Personally speaking I like a bit of teasing before the kit comes out :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: I know that when mounted on my D and DS the 1.7x identifies itself as an A lens, yet it will auto focus, while with normal A lenses the camera won't even turn on the AF motor. So at minimum it lets the camera know it is capable of auto focus even though it's an A lens, which if you think about it is either a really neat trick or exceeding simple minded, (or maybe both).. If I was Pentax, I would have a switch, worked by the screwdriver, that turned the AF motor on/off, depending whether the driver was in or out of its hole. Maybe a halfturn anyway, to make sure that there was no slot to engage to. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think I was one of the gloaters back then. Does that make me a bad person? IMO no, it just makes me human. -- MaritimTim 2009/5/18 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: That's why brains make good eating. Remember when the K20D was introduced, about a dozen PDML members had the press release, thanks to one unscrupulous journalist. Some of those who were dropping hints and gloating then are complaining now. But I didn't say that:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 09:27:31AM +0100, mike wilson scripsit: P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: I know that when mounted on my D and DS the 1.7x identifies itself as an A lens, yet it will auto focus, while with normal A lenses the camera won't even turn on the AF motor. So at minimum it lets the camera know it is capable of auto focus even though it's an A lens, which if you think about it is either a really neat trick or exceeding simple minded, (or maybe both).. If I was Pentax, I would have a switch, worked by the screwdriver, that turned the AF motor on/off, depending whether the driver was in or out of its hole. Maybe a halfturn anyway, to make sure that there was no slot to engage to. There are some edge cases -- like Tamron adaptall 2 adapters with a non-auto-focus lens attached to them -- that would make this a rather unfortunate default. The other part of it is that the camera really, really needs to know the focal length to auto-focus accurately. -- Graydon, who has tried to use focus confirm on the 500 while the camera still thought it was 800. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Depending on how much of the High ISO improvement comes from firmware there may be an upgrade to the K20D shortly after the release of the new camera to address that. Remember the *ist-Ds had a similar upgrade to *ist-Ds2 standard in every feature except the size of the actual back of camera display after the release of the Ds2. There might even be improvements in the direct view implementation, on the K20D if it doesn't require the changes to hardware. Being able to override SR manually also sounds possible as well. Higher frame rate and higher shutter speeds would require hardware changes. So about half of your list may show up in the K20D's next, (and based on past history), probably last firmware update. John Whittingham wrote: That would sound reasonable, not something I would miss too much though, I've lived without it long enough!. Better frame rate 5fps+ Better high ISO performance The ability to override SR manually Higher top shutter speed 1/8000th sec In that order would have me thinking of upgrading, but I'd prefer the size/build of the K20D Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will remember a while back the discussion of the new Pentax copyright for a lens mount / sealing rings? I suspect the DA and DFA, which have two different types of rubber 'O' ring, one called WR, the other not mentioned, will both be accommodated in the new camera. I'm not going to look, but I don't know if any of the FA and older lenses have any 'O' ring at all. The newest lenses will have more of an 'O' skirt, if my memory serves. On May 17, 2009, at 10:40 , John Whittingham wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Thibouille You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. WHAT feature of the K-7 is DA/DFA only? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That would be just great, I'd hang on to the K20D for some considerable time if there were a genuine improvement at high ISO. I can't see manual override of SR ever happening unfortunately. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling [p_all...@hotmail.com] Sent: 18 May 2009 14:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Depending on how much of the High ISO improvement comes from firmware there may be an upgrade to the K20D shortly after the release of the new camera to address that. Remember the *ist-Ds had a similar upgrade to *ist-Ds2 standard in every feature except the size of the actual back of camera display after the release of the Ds2. There might even be improvements in the direct view implementation, on the K20D if it doesn't require the changes to hardware. Being able to override SR manually also sounds possible as well. Higher frame rate and higher shutter speeds would require hardware changes. So about half of your list may show up in the K20D's next, (and based on past history), probably last firmware update. John Whittingham wrote: That would sound reasonable, not something I would miss too much though, I've lived without it long enough!. Better frame rate 5fps+ Better high ISO performance The ability to override SR manually Higher top shutter speed 1/8000th sec In that order would have me thinking of upgrading, but I'd prefer the size/build of the K20D Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Joseph McAllister [pentax...@mac.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 22:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will remember a while back the discussion of the new Pentax copyright for a lens mount / sealing rings? I suspect the DA and DFA, which have two different types of rubber 'O' ring, one called WR, the other not mentioned, will both be accommodated in the new camera. I'm not going to look, but I don't know if any of the FA and older lenses have any 'O' ring at all. The newest lenses will have more of an 'O' skirt, if my memory serves. On May 17, 2009, at 10:40 , John Whittingham wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: AlunFoto 2009/5/17 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? Not really. :-) It has its uses occasionally if it's not overblown to the point of looking cartoonish. Oh ... and none. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. Happy Birthday! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/17/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: The last obnoxious, gloating snot at GFM went on one of Mark's hikes. He was last heard saying something on the way down from Attic Window. Never made out exactly what it was... Regards, Bob S. It was something like G too hETHUNK! -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/17/09, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Lacking the necessary clairvoyance to know what's in a post before reading it, I see only one alternative for dealing with someone who openly states his intention of being obnoxious: Good night, Gracie. plonk I love you, man. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Happy Birthday, John! Boris John Francis wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And _now_ you're telling? :-) Happy birthday! 2009/5/18 John Francis jo...@panix.com: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Francis wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. man. You're old. actually, 60 doesn't seem so old to me... happy belated birthday -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Happy birthday John :) On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sure cartoonish HDR is fun but... well that's all there's to it. If well implemented, it should be very useful. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: AlunFoto 2009/5/17 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? Not really. :-) It has its uses occasionally if it's not overblown to the point of looking cartoonish. Oh ... and none. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I'd sort of referred to it before (when I mentioned that my wife had told me I wasn't getting a present on my birthday if there was a new Pentax body to be released that soon :-). On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:00:53PM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: And _now_ you're telling? :-) Happy birthday! 2009/5/18 John Francis jo...@panix.com: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein ?- oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:14:32PM +0200, Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Huh? Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. What feature? This post reads like an excerpt from another conversation. But in answer to your question: 18-55 Mk I Tamron 18-250 DFA 50/2.8 macro DA 40 -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The bell didn't ring, at least for me. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:18 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Well, I'd sort of referred to it before (when I mentioned that my wife had told me I wasn't getting a present on my birthday if there was a new Pentax body to be released that soon :-). On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 07:00:53PM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: And _now_ you're telling? :-) Happy birthday! 2009/5/18 John Francis jo...@panix.com: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein ?- oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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CA and distortion autocorrection in body. The tamron probably will not do it but your other lenses will do. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:14:32PM +0200, Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Huh? Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. What feature? This post reads like an excerpt from another conversation. But in answer to your question: 18-55 Mk I Tamron 18-250 DFA 50/2.8 macro DA 40 -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Doug (and others). The actual birthday was spent doing not very much (which, nowadays, is high on the list of desirable ways to spend a day). We had an oenophile friend visiting from out of town, so on the two previous days we'd had nice dinners cooked on the charcoal grill accompanied by some of the local California produce (two Pinot Noirs from the Santa Maria area). We had intended to drink one of the two bottles he'd brought from his cellar, but as I was still getting over a summer cold we decided it would be a shame to open them. One is a bottle of Mouton Rothschild (1986), and the other is a 1970 Musigny Comte Georges de Vogue. Nice kind of friend to have, no? He flew out on Friday night, heading off to Australia for some Southern hemisphere stargazing (his major hobby is astronomy). Then on Saturday my wife and I went to a wine tasting event held in the Santa Lucia Highlands area. Unfortunately the weather wasn't really cooperating - the temperature hit 100 in the Soledad area - but it was slightly cooler in the foothills. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:02:21PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: John Francis wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. man. You're old. actually, 60 doesn't seem so old to me... happy belated birthday -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Belated Happy Birthday. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis [jo...@panix.com] Sent: 18 May 2009 17:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:12:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: Don't worry Thibs. All of the oldtimers here are at some point guilty of curmudgeoning. It usually pass. Jostein - oldtimer I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On May 18, 2009, at 09:35 , John Francis wrote: I'm officially allowed to be a curmudgeon now - Friday was my 60th birthday Happy 60th, John. Welcome to the old farts club. :-) :-) :-0 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:41:45PM +0100, Cotty wrote: Steady on chaps, it's all just a bit of fun. Personally speaking I like a bit of teasing before the kit comes out :-) I thought you usually got teased *after* your kit came out. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm sorry, could you rephrase all of that? I didn't understand a lick. CW Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2118 - Release Date: 05/16/09 17:05:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille None here, although I've owned 3 in the past (2 copies of the 18-55 and one 16-45). Right now my only Pentax lens is an SMC Takumar 50/1.4 (which ironically is the only SMC Tak I've ever owned, all my other Pentax lenses were either Super-Tak's or K mount SMC Pentax stuff) Can't wait to see what's announced this week though. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Been out of the loop...what's with the K-7? And oh...none, I don't have an D lens. Even with the K10D previously the DS, I use the Ks, As FAs. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Cory Waters Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? I'm sorry, could you rephrase all of that? I didn't understand a lick. CW Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. Why bother. I'm getting rather tired of the K7 hype (ForumNeurotica is K7 happy in the same way my dog is squeakie toy happy). PDML seems to be staying saner about this, let's please leave it this way. The specifications will be released soon enough, and then we can all have a bitch fest, or we can all sing kumbayah. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K-7 is Pentax's next DSLR, due to be announced at the end of the week. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Been out of the loop...what's with the K-7? And oh...none, I don't have an D lens. Even with the K10D previously the DS, I use the Ks, As FAs. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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21mm 10-17mm 16-45mm 16-50mm DS 2009/5/18 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I know that much but like William, I never bothered with the specs (speculation or otherwise). Thibouille's post sounds foreboding though... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: The K-7 is Pentax's next DSLR, due to be announced at the end of the week. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Been out of the loop...what's with the K-7? And oh...none, I don't have an D lens. Even with the K10D previously the DS, I use the Ks, As FAs. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nobody not sworn to at least partial secrecy really knows what the specs are yet, although some people who've seen things have been hinting (Thibouille in particular). All that's solidly known is it's smaller than the K10D/K20D and shares control layout with the current incarnation of the 645D demo unit, it's not a direct K20D replacement and should be at least a bit higher performance than the K20D. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: I know that much but like William, I never bothered with the specs (speculation or otherwise). Thibouille's post sounds foreboding though... On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: The K-7 is Pentax's next DSLR, due to be announced at the end of the week. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Been out of the loop...what's with the K-7? And oh...none, I don't have an D lens. Even with the K10D previously the DS, I use the Ks, As FAs. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Nobody not sworn to at least partial secrecy really knows what the specs are yet, although some people who've seen things have been hinting (Thibouille in particular). All that's solidly known is it's smaller than the K10D/K20D and shares control layout with the current incarnation of the 645D demo unit, it's not a direct K20D replacement and should be at least a bit higher performance than the K20D. -Adam Good summary :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Simply put Cory, one feature will be only available when using DA/DFA lens. And it is a useful feature, you will undertand why only the latest lenses (poor Pentax testing all Pentax lenses ever made, imagine that). -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So you say, the aperture control on DA lenses and older lenses is different, right? Or may be it is quick shift focus? But not all DA lenses are quick shift. Well, I own only DA 21 and in fact I am not sure I am going to buy any more DA lenses. I may opt for K-7 with kit lens so as to use the kit lens for Galia but she is shooting so well with FA limiteds that it may be a step back for her. No, I am not getting any more appetite for this new camera from Pentax. ;-) Boris Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, you may want to keep the new kit lens if you shoot in rain since .. well it is obvious isn't it ? ;) I may opt for K-7 with kit lens so as to use the kit lens for Galia but she is shooting so well with FA limiteds that it may be a step back for her. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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none - although I do own between 90-100 Pentax mount SLR lenses. JC O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom - Thomas Jefferson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I only wish it rained more often over the Middle East. But yes, it will be the cheapest way into fully WR combo... I may end up buying the kit lens only once it becomes available... ;-) Boris Thibouille wrote: Boris, you may want to keep the new kit lens if you shoot in rain since .. well it is obvious isn't it ? ;) I may opt for K-7 with kit lens so as to use the kit lens for Galia but she is shooting so well with FA limiteds that it may be a step back for her. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Probably not. In theory Pentax could provide a way in body to input user-based corrections but I highly doubt that. I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hmm... I've got 4 DA/DA* lenses in regular use. But I've also got both an FA* and an A* lens that are important for me, and some other FA lenses. Now you got me worried. Jostein 2009/5/17 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You shouldn't be worried, there is no loss of functionality. Simply that feature will not work. Nothing bad, only good, even though limited to some lenses. In an interview, a Pentax rep said they had to change something in already roadmapped lenses. This is it (or part of it). Think MTF, it is provided by the lens, not the body. Same here except previous DA/DFA lenses which settings will be firmware based. Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? I should stop teasing you all ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/5/17 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? Not really. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I see limited pun and yes, in three days the wait will be over, oh yeah! Therefore you might wanna stop teasin' us, or else ;-). Boris On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You shouldn't be worried, there is no loss of functionality. Simply that feature will not work. Nothing bad, only good, even though *limited* (B.L.) to some lenses. Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? I should stop teasing you all ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:55:34PM +0200, Thibouille scripsit: Simply put Cory, one feature will be only available when using DA/DFA lens. And it is a useful feature, you will undertand why only the latest lenses (poor Pentax testing all Pentax lenses ever made, imagine that). All they'd need to do is include some way of empirically determining the correct settings and let their user base have at it. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It sounds like something I'm not going to need, or be concerned about.Think I'll wait for the K20D replacement. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 19:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Probably not. In theory Pentax could provide a way in body to input user-based corrections but I highly doubt that. I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. You make it sound like a hyperfocal/pan-focus function. Is that close? John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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HDR. only when it's done well and doesn't end up looking like animea, then it ceases to be photography IMHO. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 19:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You shouldn't be worried, there is no loss of functionality. Simply that feature will not work. Nothing bad, only good, even though limited to some lenses. In an interview, a Pentax rep said they had to change something in already roadmapped lenses. This is it (or part of it). Think MTF, it is provided by the lens, not the body. Same here except previous DA/DFA lenses which settings will be firmware based. Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? I should stop teasing you all ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In-camera lens correction is a safe bet. My G1 does this with m43 lenses (but not 4/3rds lenses mounted via adaptor). Useful, especially with wide-angles (say goodbye to distortion), but also impractical to evaluate all F and later lenses (A and earlier lenses don't identify the model to the camera and therefore couldn't support the feature in-camera). Supporting DA and D-FA lenses only is a good middle ground. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: It sounds like something I'm not going to need, or be concerned about.Think I'll wait for the K20D replacement. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 19:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Probably not. In theory Pentax could provide a way in body to input user-based corrections but I highly doubt that. I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah. don't need that. no worries. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas [a...@mawz.ca] Sent: 17 May 2009 20:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? In-camera lens correction is a safe bet. My G1 does this with m43 lenses (but not 4/3rds lenses mounted via adaptor). Useful, especially with wide-angles (say goodbye to distortion), but also impractical to evaluate all F and later lenses (A and earlier lenses don't identify the model to the camera and therefore couldn't support the feature in-camera). Supporting DA and D-FA lenses only is a good middle ground. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: It sounds like something I'm not going to need, or be concerned about.Think I'll wait for the K20D replacement. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 19:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Probably not. In theory Pentax could provide a way in body to input user-based corrections but I highly doubt that. I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own?
I like Thibouille's hinting game. I miss being in the loop about upcoming products, and I think this is about as close as most of us are going to get. It's fun, like a slowly unravelling mystery. Anyway, I own a decent amount of DA lenses. DA 10-17 DA 16-50 DA 18-55 DA 21 DA 50-200 D-FA 100 macro Next on the wish list: DA 12-24. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. I'll bite: DA* 50-135 DA* 16-50 DA 35 macro DA 18-55 DA 50-200 My wish-list: DA* 55 I'm quite curious about this new camera. But not enough to make me refresh the countdown page. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm really looking forward to next week so we can be done with these smug I know something *you* don't postings that contain absolutely no useful information. Either post real details or STFU. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:23:12PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote: I'm sorry, could you rephrase all of that? I didn't understand a lick. CW Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2118 - Release Date: 05/16/09 17:05:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If, as you suggest, it's anything implemented in software, then I'm not going to worry about it one whit - that's what Photoshop is for. The only in-camera processing I use (apart from ISO variations) is JPEG conversion (RAW+JPEG or just plain JPEG output for happy-snaps). While I did notice, just the other day, that my every day kit is all stuff that's at most 2 1/2 years old, and that my most-used lenses are DAs (mostly 16-50 and 50-135), I've got a good number of older lenses that come out occasionally. There's no way I'm going to replace all of those, no matter how useful the feature may be. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 03:14:13PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: In-camera lens correction is a safe bet. My G1 does this with m43 lenses (but not 4/3rds lenses mounted via adaptor). Useful, especially with wide-angles (say goodbye to distortion), but also impractical to evaluate all F and later lenses (A and earlier lenses don't identify the model to the camera and therefore couldn't support the feature in-camera). Supporting DA and D-FA lenses only is a good middle ground. -Adam On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: It sounds like something I'm not going to need, or be concerned about.Think I'll wait for the K20D replacement. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 19:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? Probably not. In theory Pentax could provide a way in body to input user-based corrections but I highly doubt that. I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:40 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of course John, I wouldn't replace my older (or other brand) lenses because of that. It may however, influence purchase choices for next lenses to buy. (not speaking for me, just general buyer). I've got a good number of older lenses that come out occasionally. There's no way I'm going to replace all of those, no matter how useful the feature may be. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, nobody forces you to read anything. If you read, you wanted it. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I'm really looking forward to next week so we can be done with these smug I know something *you* don't postings that contain absolutely no useful information. Either post real details or STFU. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Agreed some HDR pictures are sure fun but so unreal, I do not see the point (except for the fun of it). We'll see if it is done well or not. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: HDR. only when it's done well and doesn't end up looking like animea, then it ceases to be photography IMHO. John -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No. But then I do not know everything. There may be more goodies. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:11 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: I suspect it [the feature] takes into account lens model but focus distance as well as aperture and focal length so it would be quite difficult IMO to build such profile for other lenses. You make it sound like a hyperfocal/pan-focus function. Is that close? John -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John, I can tell this is pssing you off. Me too. Bob S. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I'm really looking forward to next week so we can be done with these smug I know something *you* don't postings that contain absolutely no useful information. Either post real details or STFU. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:23:12PM -0400, Cory Waters wrote: I'm sorry, could you rephrase all of that? I didn't understand a lick. CW Thibouille wrote: You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2118 - Release Date: 05/16/09 17:05:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: You shouldn't be worried, there is no loss of functionality. Simply that feature will not work. Nothing bad, only good, even though limited to some lenses. In an interview, a Pentax rep said they had to change something in already roadmapped lenses. This is it (or part of it). Think MTF, it is provided by the lens, not the body. Same here except previous DA/DFA lenses which settings will be firmware based. Oh, anybody likes HDR, by the way? Nope. I should stop teasing you all ;) Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:01:50PM +0200, Thibouille scripsit: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Gloating is unseemly, even when done in silence to the dark between the stars. In the present absence of de-illuminated astrographic elements, permit me to pass you a sock. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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13, why? On May 17, 2009, at 10:40 , John Whittingham wrote: Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thibouille wrote: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Lacking the necessary clairvoyance to know what's in a post before reading it, I see only one alternative for dealing with someone who openly states his intention of being obnoxious: Good night, Gracie. plonk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You will remember a while back the discussion of the new Pentax copyright for a lens mount / sealing rings? I suspect the DA and DFA, which have two different types of rubber 'O' ring, one called WR, the other not mentioned, will both be accommodated in the new camera. I'm not going to look, but I don't know if any of the FA and older lenses have any 'O' ring at all. The newest lenses will have more of an 'O' skirt, if my memory serves. On May 17, 2009, at 10:40 , John Whittingham wrote: Does this include 3rd party Sigma, Tamron PKAF fitting? I own 2 Tamrons and 4 Sigmas, and I'm thinking of getting the newly released Sigma 120-400 APO HSM. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Thibouille [pentaxl...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 May 2009 17:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How many DA/DFA lenses do you own? You will bitch against older lenses (FA and older)... ;) Well, at least those upgrading to K-7 (no, it's not compatibility related, don't worry). Simply, that feature is DA/DFA only. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This might be why my K20 did not ask the focal length of my A* 300 ƒ4 when attached to the AF 1.7x tc. It should have, but perhaps it DID get something from the 300 as to focal length. Of course, the photos were soft on tripod, so maybe I should have gone to the Custom Functions and forced a 500mm reading. (There was camera movement, as the tripod was not my sturdiest) On May 17, 2009, at 12:14 , Adam Maas wrote: but also impractical to evaluate all F and later lenses (A and earlier lenses don't identify the model to the camera and therefore couldn't support the feature in-camera) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I find it amusing. Keep going if it suits you and you know you'll never meet up with Bob or John or Mark at GFM...:-0 On May 17, 2009, at 14:01 , Thibouille wrote: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Why would I want to? On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I find it amusing. Keep going if it suits you and you know you'll never meet up with Bob or John or Mark at GFM... :-0 On May 17, 2009, at 14:01 , Thibouille wrote: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The last obnoxious, gloating snot at GFM went on one of Mark's hikes. He was last heard saying something on the way down from Attic Window. Never made out exactly what it was... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I find it amusing. Keep going if it suits you and you know you'll never meet up with Bob or John or Mark at GFM... :-0 On May 17, 2009, at 14:01 , Thibouille wrote: Yes. You've become more than a little obnoxious. Well, stop reading then. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
