Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
We've *never* been able to agree on anything (not even on the general worthlessness of Kenny Rogers), and I think if we ever did, we'd just have to shut the list down. After all, what would be the point of carrying on?g--don Don's right. Someone, anyone-maybe even me-has to come out of the woodwork and let this record have it. It's important, don't screw this up. Even if you think it's a good record. This list has a rock-solid three years invested in smear, recriminations, and general ill-will, and we can't screw this up now! Dan "my ass it's a good record" Bentele
Don Was info please....
Joe on Focusrites: It's a really nice line of compressors that are so well-engineered that you can really squash things without the artifacts commonly found in cheaper units, like loss of highs, etc. I'd kill for one but I ain't rich enough...Ah damn. Guess I'll just go back to my still-unfulfilled search for that ribbon-mic-I'll-find-someday-in-a-junkshop-for-ten-bucks of my dreams...--junior Best damn mic for recording banjo, period! Buddy Ribbon Rockets * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Buddy Woodward - [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE GHOST ROCKETS - Maximum Rhythm Bluegrass http://www.hudsonet.com/~undertow/ghostrockets* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
My cue. I have a lot of problems with the original Damnations pre-release . . . but I am gonna reserve comment until the final release comes out (they reportedly did go back to the studio to brush it up). But anyways, count me in as skeptical re: the Damnations TX disc. They are talented as hell (only seen them once, but enjoyed it a lot) . . . just not sure the disc does it for me. -jim On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've *never* been able to agree on anything (not even on the general worthlessness of Kenny Rogers), and I think if we ever did, we'd just have to shut the list down. After all, what would be the point of carrying on?g--don Don's right. Someone, anyone-maybe even me-has to come out of the woodwork and let this record have it. It's important, don't screw this up. Even if you think it's a good record. This list has a rock-solid three years invested in smear, recriminations, and general ill-will, and we can't screw this up now! Dan "my ass it's a good record" Bentele
Damnations?
Are we allowed to wager onlist? I'll wager that Weisberger won't care for it much. I certainly don't... this is shaping out to be an awful year for music. Kiss it all goodbye... go back to your day jobs. I'm not grumpy, but I'm serious and someone has to be the bearer of bad news... electronica is taking over the world, in conjunction with new age. I think the world might even be coming to an end or something like that... you know it's true when some fool on a stool like Yates calls you his son. I think I might have to ditch this place and become a full-time fluffer. Chad, still smilin' more than Jim np a whole bunch of crap including the Damnations...
Re: Summerteeth Trade
I've been noticing a lot of post about bootleg or pirate materials lately on p2. Does anyone other than the bootlegger think this is an appropriate activity? I sure as hell don't and it offends me as well each time it rears its ugly head. Theft is Theft is Theft. Nuff said. Iceman Thomas Wodock wrote: At 09:47 PM 2/5/99 -0500, you wrote: I have a CD copy of the new Wilco album Summerteeth. I'll make cassette copies for trade. E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And our worldy Mr.Wall wrote I really hate this. That disc is due out in March sometime. Although I have no intention of buying it, listening to it, or even reading about it if I can possibly help it, to bottleg the sumbitch crosses even my weakly defined boundries of good taste and ethics. Don't do it. Thank you Mr Wall I second your ethics. And I can't wait to find what you expierence musically an your tour. Thom Wodock
Elvis and Other Books
This got posted yesterday on the fluff list--on accounta Joonyah asked the question there...but a wise woman from the Atlanta contingent (actually, I think she now IS the Atlanta contingent) clued me in on my connfusion. I may have inadvertantly crossed the Prime Rib Directive. Here's the post-fluff posr: Has anyone read volume II of Guralnick's bio yet? I keep meaning to go get a copy --junior Sure have. And what a long sad trip this one is! First off, IMHO, Guralncik needs some sort of special award for entering a field in which there is already a vast array of lousy, speculative book and interpretations of very little info-and doing the hard homework to assemble the facts. In the wake of all those Biblical interpretations, recipe books, memoirs by people who once cut his dog's hair, and even Greil Marcus, the 2 volumes of this epic really were much needed. That said, the facts of the matter--not the author-- make Vol 2 (Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley) a sometimes difficult long read. Guralnick's theory is simple, elegant, and, I think, unassailable. Having made the case so well in Vol 1. (Last Train to Memphis: The Rise of Elvis Presley) that Elvis was a serious, deliberate, hard-working artist very much in control of his work when it was at its best (and far from a pawn of Col. Parker or anyone else)...he has to show the all-too-careless unwinding in this second part. Volukme One was Elvis taking control; Volume two is losing it. And he loses it, surely, because of elements of his own nature as key as those that made him what he'd first become. That's what the books about--and, by the way--it also shows how ongoing life events that bring, force or let Elvis take charge of his music again, and to some degree, his life...momentarily, produced all of the first-rate or even second-rate moments in the post-Army, longest, part of his career. The Comeback Specials begin in his head. You'll wnat to read this if you care. but it's hard stuff. While you're at it: Everly Bros Book. Available in paper now (The Elvis is not in paperback yet) is Roger White's "The Everly Brothers: Walk Right Back"--which fits here nicely, since, as the title suggests, it's the story of how THAT popwerful duo repeatedly renewed themselves and kept coming back...even when they weren't speaking.. Also notable for much detail on matters of interest here--such as the relation of their father Ike's career to theirs, his to Chet Atkins' et al, placinmg these boys firmly in a "rock out of Kentucky" tradition. One side benefit for me: it led me to pick up their often forgotten return-to-Nashville comeback album "Pass the Chicken and Listen", produced by Atkins in 1972. It includes THEIR version of the Bryants' "Rocky Top," and John Prine's "Paradise" and, finally, Buddy Holly's "Not Fade Away"--all memorable, and pretty well forgotten. Read the book--and you cna find the disc. (On "One Way Records/BMG"). And also, speaking of latter day comebacks, I've recently read and recommen: "Go Cat Go: Rockabilly Music and Its Makers" by Craig Morrison. This is in that great and generally authoritative series "MUSIC IN AMERICAN LIFE" from the University of Illinois Press--same place as the Rosenberg Bluegrass history and the best-known Jimmie Rodgers and Bob Wills bios. This shouldn't be confused with the Carl Perkins book with the same main title BTW--but it's a good solid discussion of what rockabilly is (accoridng to various arguers!), where it's been, and how it managed to come back. Only in hard back so far, but a must for rockabillies--who never originally were or wanted to be called that! Barry All typos guaranteed.
NYTimes today: Yearwood, Jackson country now
February 7, 1999 Tricia Yearwood and Alan Jackson: Country Twang With an Edge By JAMES HUNTER Until recently, country music has happily honored tradition, making do with only slight stylistic adjustments. With hummable barroom melodies, in fairly simple arrangements, country songs usually concerned themselves with cheating, drinking or loyalty. But these days, all bets are off. In the early 1990s, Garth Brooks arrived on the scene, bristling with the energy of the 70s rock on which he grew up, while at the same time acknowledging his indebtedness to the country stalwarts George Jones and George Strait. No one ever mistook him for anything but a country boy. Then along came Shania Twain. She guessed correctly that the country audience was more than ready for pop sophistication. Her music resonated with the rhythms of contemporary dance pop, and she made videos that were as slick as anyone else's on MTV. As a result, listeners could hear one of her pop ballads or dance tunes with twangs and reasonably wonder, "This is country?" It's a concern that has been heard since the 1960s, when the producer and arranger Owen Bradley recorded Patsy Cline singing in front of orchestras. Purists were no less dumbfounded by Cline's music than they are by that of many of today's country artists. But the country boom of the early 90s has leveled off, and now, to regain the momentum, country has to figure out -- again -- what it is. Recent albums by Trisha Yearwood and Alan Jackson point in a promising direction. The two singers grew up within 100 miles of each other in Georgia, and their careers have spanned the ups and downs of country this decade. Perhaps that's why Ms. Yearwood's "Where Your Road Leads" (MCA 70023) and Jackson's "High Mileage" (Arista 07822-18864-Z) sidestep the confusion. They rely on an almost classical sense of country form that still leaves room for innovation. And the tack has proved successful: Ms. Yearwood's album has sold nearly a million copies and Jackson's twice that since they were released late last fall. Ms. Yearwood, named the Country Music Association's female vocalist of the year for the last two years, has always craved adventurousness in her music as much as Ms. Twain has in hers. On "Never Let You Go Again" and "Love Wouldn't Lie to Me," Ms. Yearwood sings these ballads in her lush yet minimally ornamented style. They might be taken for pop, given arrangements that mix two staples of country -- mandolins and steel guitars -- with dreamy synthesizer lines and piano accents that could have come from London pop sessions. "Baby, I'm just heart and soul and flesh and bone," Ms. Yearwood confesses on "Wouldn't Any Woman," an uptempo country-rocker. Throughout her career, Ms. Yearwood, 34, has demonstrated a marked contrast in her music: straight-out gutsiness on one hand and a sophisticated technique on the other. On "Where Your Road Leads," she balances immediacy and refinement. She has eliminated much of the regionalism that characterized earlier country, paving the way for the fast-paced styles of today's pop-conscious female country artists like Ms. Twain, Faith Hill and the Dixie Chicks. Yet no one would confuse Ms. Yearwood's singing with Celine Dion's. Ms. Yearwood's unswerving concentration on words and melodies communicates an intensity that might only be called country. Invariably, she builds intricate moods of romantic regret and disappointment that reflect country singers' tradition of a nearly religious communion with their material. While she manages to pay respects to the past, her singing is never a slave to it. "There Goes My Baby," which opens the album, may have a 60s pop drift to its melody, but Ms. Yearwood delivers the song with a clean, up-to-the-minute terseness. Nowhere in Ms. Yearwood's album is this balance better showcased than on a song called "Bring Me All Your Loving," a finely wrought ballad that keeps turning into a rock-blues belt. "There's nothing at the five and dime that I really need," Ms. Yearwood sings, finally advising the man in the song to "throw your present in the creek." On "High Mileage," Jackson, 40, hews more closely to country convention than Ms. Yearwood does. For him, a large part of country's appeal involves its canny accumulation of catchy melodies and rhythms to convey plain emotions. Like most male country singers, he yearns for another country verity, stability, although for Jackson the present is equally hard to ignore. On the album's first track, a swinging stroll entitled "Right on the Money," he strikes an entertaining balance between old and new, likening a woman to "my favorite song on a new set of speakers." A country minimalist, Jackson prefers spare acoustic guitar to the studio bluster of much of contemporary country and pop. His stripped-down approach allows him to arrive at the emotional core of his romantic strivings. In an outstanding ballad like "Gone Crazy" or the
Spring is in the air!!!
I just heard the four greatest words in sports: "Gentlemen, start your engines!" LET'S GO RACIN'! Slim twang content: u... I love country music?
Re: BOOK REVIEW: Gender in the Music World (fwd)
Indeed, the very discrepancy between the public's general knowledge of Mick Jaggar versus the largely unknown female group Bikini Kill reveals the gendered nature of the music industry. Far be it from me to discredit the notion that rock is a man's world. Cuz it is. We control the language and the money, we decide who gets to be proselytized as the next "woman in rock," etc. I'd like to think that it was a man who saw the cash potential in pumping up Alanis as some sort of feminist model rather than the more appropriate and musically-gifted PJ Harvey. HOWEVER--to compare the public's knowledge of Jagger/The Stones to Bikini Kill is a horribly misleading advocacy device. If the Stones' popularity is to be compared relative to a female artist, it should be a female artist from the mid-60's, and preferably from Decca or London Records. Hopefully it could be demonstrated that her promotion was slighted in favor of The Stones' promotion and that sort of thing. BK isn't as well-known as The Stones, but they aren't as well-known as Janis Joplin either, but it has nothing to do with their gender. The proper question might be: Why isn't BK as well known as Nirvana or the Smashing Pumpkins? Or Better Than Frickin Ezra? Or the Offspring? Or, could it be argued that Kill Rock Stars Records simply didn't have the financial resources to compete with the promotion depots of the major labels? If you can accept that to be true, I think BK did about as well as could be expected. I mean, they were fantastic self-promoters (although they paled next to Courtney Love, but that's another story), and they are probably more well-known than, say, Bratmobile or Team Dresch. Popularity can be a dicey subject, because it's hard to say whether a band like Sleater-Kinney is commercially-unpopular because they are aggressively female, or because they're on Kill Rock Stars and are thusly ignored by MTV and the major radio stations. So, the final question I have is this: In the current market, is a band's popularity more contingent on gender or class? Lance . . . np-Kathleen Hanna's rant on Mike Watt's "Tugboat" LP . . .
Re: Don Was info please....
Budrocket wrote: Ah damn. Guess I'll just go back to my still-unfulfilled search for that ribbon-mic-I'll-find-someday-in-a-junkshop-for-ten-bucks of my dreams...--junior Best damn mic for recording banjo, period! Buddy Ribbon Rockets All the old banja players in these parts insisted that the ElectroVoice 664 was the best mic of all for the infernal things. It was that long silver cardiod with the mesh grill front and the sort of fin down the back. It has a sort of thin, high-endy sound, which makes sense. It was also a great snare mic. I have one right here in front of me. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: Spring is in the air!!!
Slim- There are the four greatest words That with a little CW playin in the background is what nascar is all about! RW WDVR-FM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 11:17 AM Subject: Spring is in the air!!! I just heard the four greatest words in sports: "Gentlemen, start your engines!" LET'S GO RACIN'! Slim twang content: u... I love country music?
Keith Christopher sighting
WARNING: Minimum twang content Caught a blooze double bill last night: Kenny Wayne Shepherd and (the reason for my being there) Bryan Lee of New Orleans. Bryan, your Braille Blues Daddy, was great, but the surprise of the night was seeing former Shaver (and GA Satellites?) bassist Keith Christopher gigging with KWS... He's affected a foppish stance...and it works. That is all. Tucker
Cowboy Poets
COWBOY POETS TIP THEIR HATS TO LIFE IN '90S Tom Knudson02/01/99 The Sacramento Bee (Copyright 1999) Outside, the temperature hovered around 5 degrees. Ice clung like iron to sidewalks. Clouds of automobile exhaust drifted across frozen streets and parking lots. But inside the Elko Convention Center, there was the sweet smell of sage after a summer rain. The atmosphere was warm with words, lightened by laughter and touched, now and then, by tears. The occasion was the Western Folklife Center's 15th annual Cowboy Poetry Gathering, an event more worldly and important than it sounds. Not only has the festival -- which ended Sunday -- drawn national and international attention (Yevgeny Yevtushenko, a famous Russian poet attended two years ago; Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Annie Proulx showed up last year), it has moved beyond its cowboy roots to celebrate the spirit and diversity of the West and its wide-open space -- and chart some of its future, too. This past week, some of the most widely known names in Western folk and ranch life passed through Elko. Monty Roberts, author of the best-selling book "The Man Who * Listens to Horses," was here. So, too, was Ian Tyson, the Canadian folk singer; William McDonald, a fifth-generation Arizona rancher known for his pioneering efforts to make ranching and conservation work together; Henry Real Bird from the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana; Sourdough Slim, the yodeling cowboy from Paradise; and many others. Equally impressive was the crowd that came to see them. Roughly 9,000 people from 40 states and five foreign countries crammed into Elko, filling casinos and motels, increasing Elko's population by more than 30 percent and spending $1 million a day. What they found was a rendezvous more about the reality of Western ranch life than the romance, part free verse and part ballad and rhyme. They heard from ranchers who work with conservationists and the government to protect open space. They listened to speakers who mourned the recent killing of 34 wild horses outside Reno, to ranchers who are learning to live with predators, and to cowboy poets who are moving beyond ridin' and ropin' to write about such things as apartheid, the Holocaust and American Indian injustice. The morning after hearing (Czeslaw) Milosz, I wept tears in the Holocaust Museum, one for each mildewed shoe heaped in a musky dark exhibit . . . Now, I must sing to you of the bugle-beaded, horse-tracks- on-buckskin Sioux moccasin, so tiny against the black mountains of shoes -- one baby's bootee found frozen in the snow at Wounded Knee. -- Paul Zarzyski, former rodeo rider, Great Falls, Mont. Hal Cannon, founding director of the gathering, said he is not surprised that cowboy poetry is becoming more cosmopolitan. Ranch life is changing, he said, and poetry is a mirror for that. "One of my cowboy friends from Recluse, Wyoming, feeds cows in the morning and designs Web sites on the Internet in the afternoon," he said. "Another is a contractor from Utah. He rode 300 miles on horseback to be here. "A lot of people don't want to be categorized just as cowboys and ranchers anymore," Cannon continued. "They live in the modern world, too. And they write what's in their experience, from something they might see on TV to the politics of the day. It's impossible in the 1990s to be isolated." One thing has remained constant -- the need for camaraderie, a strand that -- in the Western states -- reaches to the fur-trading rendezvous of the 19th century. "My first year in Elko I expected to find a cowboy Disneyland," said California rancher and poet John Dofflemyer. "Instead, I found real, feeling, sensitive people with hands-on experience who came from the same culture I did." "People are drawn here for one reason," said Rick Crowder, who goes by the stage name Sourdough Slim. "It's because they have a deep love of the West. They have a bond with the land. It's an emotional experience." So we consume the foothills -- dig and blast speed our erosion up to pay the bills and truck the last harvest to towns hungry for another new place to park. John Dofflemyer, Settling The San Joaquin All is not well on the land these days. Low beef prices, development pressure, endangered species conflicts and declining productivity of grasslands are among the problems that have led some to say that Western ranching is doomed.
RE: Summerteeth Trade
Now wait a second Mr. Iceman I was not the original person who wrote I have a CD of Wilco That was someone else. I wrote in agreeing to Mr. Wall's good ethics that that person should not be doing that bootleg thing. I don't want any reputation like that!!! Thom Wodock -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Young Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:43 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Summerteeth Trade I've been noticing a lot of post about bootleg or pirate materials lately on p2. Does anyone other than the bootlegger think this is an appropriate activity? I sure as hell don't and it offends me as well each time it rears its ugly head. Theft is Theft is Theft. Nuff said. Iceman Thomas Wodock wrote: At 09:47 PM 2/5/99 -0500, you wrote: I have a CD copy of the new Wilco album Summerteeth. I'll make cassette copies for trade. E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And our worldy Mr.Wall wrote I really hate this. That disc is due out in March sometime. Although I have no intention of buying it, listening to it, or even reading about it if I can possibly help it, to bootleg the sumbitch crosses even my weakly defined boundries of good taste and ethics. Don't do it. Thank you Mr. Wall I second your ethics. And I can't wait to find what you experience musically an your tour. Thom Wodock
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
Dan "my ass it's a good record" B. observes: Don's right. Someone, anyone-maybe even me-has to come out of the woodwork and let this record have it. It's important, don't screw this up. Even if you think it's a good record. This list has a rock-solid three years invested in smear, recriminations, and general ill-will, and we can't screw this up now! Why Dan, you make P2 sound like the U.S. Congress g. I protest! I'm sure we'll have naysayers on the Damnations and that is indeed the P2 way. It sure is a good record, though. My prediction is that some of our more lyrics-oriented folk will find it less that stellar on that end. I'm digging it, in any case. --junior
Wacos (was Innocent in Austin)
Jeff: Now throwing across the room in total distaste: Wacoworld. What the hell is this supposed to be? Somewhere, a tupperware bowl died to make this disc. A waste of good tupperware. Jeff, why don't you tell us what you *really* think about this album? g --junior
kd and Yoakam and Ely
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: I think k.d. just ran into basically the same wall that a lot of us have run into in one form or another over the years. She made it deeper into alien territory than most, but so did yoakum and Ely and several of them in those days and it just didn't pan out as well as we all hoped. I dont know if I'd lump her together with those two (or the many other names that could be added). I get the impression that Dwight, for instance, would keep making great country records even if he had to do it on a small label. He wouldnt do it any other way. Whereas for k.d. it was a matter of changing clothes when she felt like it. I'm not trying to get into some kind of comparison about artistic purity here, because on some level it's all show business and it's all an act. I love k.d.'s countryish records, But it's clear that when the going got sticky, k.d. chose to completely change styles. That's not the choice that a lot of the other folks make in a similar situation. Will Miner Denver, CO
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
In a message dated 2/7/99 1:22:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why Dan, you make P2 sound like the U.S. Congress g. I Speaking of the U.S. Congress -- did anyone catch the latest episode of the "Ex-Presidents" on Saturday Night Live? Whoops! I should be on the fluff side. Deb
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
Damnation appears to be a skumrock band of some type, based on the Flipside cover story I read about them a few months back. never heard them though I can think of about 20 bands who could benefit from a player like rob bernard if you wanna hear the most recent prescott curlywolf stuff get Funanimal World on Freedom Records - one of the best record labels to come out of this town ever oh god i'm posting jenni np: eminem -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far Date: Sat, Feb 6, 1999, 7:34 AM Barry writes:BTW--these girls (and the other person) can sing and play so well that I wouldn't rule out Jon liking this one! The other person is Rob Bernard who is also a member of the vastly underrated Prescott Curlywolf. As far as pronunciation, I've heard it's Damnations Tee-X. There was a hard rock band called Damnation that didn't want to give up the name, thus the change. I've been raving about this band for two years now. Glad to see there's finally a band we can ALL agree on. g Jim, smilin'
Re: Cowboy Poets
And where was NPR's glorious cowboy poet and former large animal veterinarian Baxter Black? lr
The Bystanders: February-March Dates
The Bystanders will coalesce the vapor of human experience into a meaningful whole at the following establishments: The Down Home, Johnson City TN Bystanders/Brother Boys Songwriting Extravaganza February 11 7th Street Cafe, Bristol TN The Bystanders: All-Covered Up Show (new songs and covers, only) February 26 The Down Home, Johnson City TN The Bystanders March 4 Tomato Head, Knoxville TN Bystanders' Back Porch Jam March 13 Rob Russell Johnson City, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://listen.to/thebystanders
Re: Summerteeth Trade
Hey ICE! careful on the accusations! I agree there is a lot of "illegal" stuff- but Tom is a fellow dj and he has the goods! RW Shamy -Original Message- From: Thomas Wodock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: RE: Summerteeth Trade Now wait a second Mr. Iceman I was not the original person who wrote I have a CD of Wilco That was someone else. I wrote in agreeing to Mr. Wall's good ethics that that person should not be doing that bootleg thing. I don't want any reputation like that!!! Thom Wodock -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Young Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 3:43 AM To: passenger side Subject: Re: Summerteeth Trade I've been noticing a lot of post about bootleg or pirate materials lately on p2. Does anyone other than the bootlegger think this is an appropriate activity? I sure as hell don't and it offends me as well each time it rears its ugly head. Theft is Theft is Theft. Nuff said. Iceman Thomas Wodock wrote: At 09:47 PM 2/5/99 -0500, you wrote: I have a CD copy of the new Wilco album Summerteeth. I'll make cassette copies for trade. E-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] And our worldy Mr.Wall wrote I really hate this. That disc is due out in March sometime. Although I have no intention of buying it, listening to it, or even reading about it if I can possibly help it, to bootleg the sumbitch crosses even my weakly defined boundries of good taste and ethics. Don't do it. Thank you Mr. Wall I second your ethics. And I can't wait to find what you experience musically an your tour. Thom Wodock
Re: K.D. Lang
Jon J wrote about cueers in quountry music: A lot of the old taboos have fallen in the last ten years or so, but that's still the Big One. The eventual emergence of the first openly gay country music star is going to be one of the more fascinating milestones in country music when it finally happens. Not that I believe in polls exactly, but there was an interesting survey showing last year showing that homophobia truly is the last bastion of open intolerance in America. The authors did in-depth interviews with hundreds of very average middle-class people across the country, found them much more open-minded about race than anyone expected (tons of them brought up family members who were in interracial couples as a factor that made them reevaluate prejudice), but quite virulent in opposition to homosexuality. Though most of them stopped short of hate-mongering, or even saying it should be a crime etc, they did honestly think it a sin. And disgusting too of course. That'd pretty much be the soccer-mom demographic country radio aims for, and I'd be pretty surprised if a gay or lesbian country star can break through before this changes. (Which I foolishly imagine it will by the time today's late-adolescents are grown, because no reasonably educated kids I meet now seem to be shocked by homosexuality anymore. But y'never know.) Not that rock-based pop music or, for god's sakes, hip-hop are terrifically open-minded on the matter either, but it is pretty hard to imagine even a country equivalent of Marilyn Manson's level of androgyny (a good example since he makes a big deal of being straight), much less an out-and-proud pop twanger. carl w.
Re: Hard country (was Re: Heather Myles Injustice
Thanks don for recycling yer hard-country history lesson. Nice to precisisize one's terminology, and I must have been off-list when you first posted it a year ago... carl w.
Re: Elvis Part II
I got the secod volume of the Guralinick ordered from Amazon. Anybody fancy a discussion about this ? -- Iain Noble Hound Dog Research, Survey and Social Research Consultancy, 28A Collegiate Crescent Sheffield S10 2BA UK Phone/fax: (+44) (0)114 267 1394 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Mandy Barnett
(I'm getting lucky today) If you hate where country has gone to, and you like (or at least don't mind) Owen Bradley production with background singers and strings and you LOVE a big beautiful female voice then get Mandy Barnett's "I've Got A Right To Cry" this is new old-fashioned traditional (whatever that is) country at its best (in aural paradise) Mark M.
Re: kd and Yoakam and Ely
Will Miner wrote: On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Joe Gracey wrote: I think k.d. just ran into basically the same wall that a lot of us have run into in one form or another over the years. She made it deeper into alien territory than most, but so did yoakum and Ely and several of them in those days and it just didn't pan out as well as we all hoped. I dont know if I'd lump her together with those two (or the many other names that could be added). I get the impression that Dwight, for instance, would keep making great country records even if he had to do it on a small label. He wouldnt do it any other way. Whereas for k.d. it was a matter of changing clothes when she felt like it. I'm not trying to get into some kind of comparison about artistic purity here, because on some level it's all show business and it's all an act. I love k.d.'s countryish records, But it's clear that when the going got sticky, k.d. chose to completely change styles. That's not the choice that a lot of the other folks make in a similar situation. Will Miner Denver, CO No, no , what I'm trying to describe is the frustration many artists have felt over the past 15 years in trying to make country records and finding that the country establishment doesn't have any use for them. Yoakum gets the most acceptance, but just barely, but there are many of us who at some point just gave up trying because the scene was too closeminded to fool with. Just because k.d. gave up trying doesn't mean her heart wasn't in it to begin with, it means she realized that she was beating her head against a wall and gave up, as did many like her who were ready to bring diverse talents to the party and got the door slammed in their faces. See, I don't view this as some kind of purity issue at all. I think a great talent can cross genres pretty much at will and bring something to almost anyplace they land, a la Ray Charles and Willie Nelson. I get nervous when people start to draw lines and say that unless you commit your whole life's work to one style only then you are not sincere. I'm sure she had more great country records in her, as well as great pop and rock records too. Ain't nothing wrong with that in my book. I know many artists who are incapable of staying in one style for more than a record or two, anyway, and whether they do well in that box or not, they jump ship and try something else. Some artists find something they are good at and have a seat. It's more a personality thing than a choice. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Re: EV 664 (was re: Don was...)
Geffry King wrote: Joe Gracey wrote: All the old banja players in these parts insisted that the ElectroVoice 664 was the best mic of all for the infernal things. It was that long silver cardiod with the mesh grill front and the sort of fin down the back. It has a sort of thin, high-endy sound, which makes sense. It was also a great snare mic. I have one right here in front of me. I think every school in the Baltimore County school system had at least one, too - they were the auditorium microphone of choice. Probably the first mic I ever used before a live audience was a 664. Geez..talk about memories... -- Geff King "(TAP TAP) May I (SQLL!!!) MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEEESE???!!" exactly, the School mic that the principal used to blow in. -- Joe Gracey President-For-Life, Jackalope Records http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Playlist--Mother Road
Greetings from the Mother Road. Busy couple days Ralph Stanley in town on Friday and Saturday Doug Sham spent about an hour or so hanging out and talking. Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys--Brain Cloudy Blues Al Dexter and His Troopers--New Broom Boogie Tex Williams--I Lost My Gal from Memphis Asleep at the Wheel and Lyle Lovett--Blues for Dixie Don Walser--Cherokee Maiden Merle Haggard--Time Changes Everything Hot Club of Cowtown--My Confession Spade Cooley--Shame on You Pine Valley Cosmonauts--Hang Your Head in Shame Lucky Strikes--If You Could Be With Me Squirrel Nut Zippers--Memphis Exorcism Bad Livers--Shufflin to Memphis Devil in the Woodpile--Whiskey Headed Bues Asylum Street Spankers--Trippin Over You Steve James--Hadacol Boogie Geoff Muldaur--Chevrolet/Big Alice Roy Bookbinder--She did you a favor Doug Sahm in studio, thanks Joe X for several head's up on topics. Doug talked about new cd, Flaco's first trip to NYC, Mexican wrestling, Augie's health, the Gourds, Austin Yuppies, California Hippies, Texas Tornadoes, lack of good radio in many major cities, Freddy Fender's song writing, Tom Russell, his grand kids, baseball, Indian Reservations, a new Tornadoes live album, Ray Wylie Hubbard, Flaco's new cd, Jimmy Day's passing, Canadian retreats and enjoying life. Featured off the new cd SDQ '98 Goodby San Francisco-Hello Amsterdam St. Olav's Gate Get a Life Gife Back the Key to My Heart Malmo Mama On Bended Knee Louis Reil The Gourds--Magnolia Flaco Jimenez--Said and Done Ray Wylie Hubbard--Wanna Rock and Roll See y'all down the road, Jamie
RE: Pernice tours Australia
I play in a band called Golden Rough and we're going to be Joe's "backing band" while he's in Australia. I'm personally stoked about it because Overcome by Happiness is one of my favourite albums. I'll be sure and post a couple things to share with you all if you'd like. Junior -- From: Joyce Linehan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 February 1999 6:18 To: passenger side Subject: Pernice tours Australia Joe Pernice will tour Australia (solo) in February. Some of you might be wondering why he would return there so soon, having just been there in December. Well, the immigration people weren't being very cooperative in December, and he never got there. So, immigration willing, here are the replacement dates. February Fri 19 Punter's club, Melbourne Sat 20 Corner Hotel, Melbourne Sun 21 Emily Grace Hotel, Adelaide Wed 24 Greenwich Bar, Perth Fri 26 Hopetoun, Sydney Sat 27 Globe, Sydney w/ Archer Prewitt Sun 28 Rick's Cafe, Brisbane The Pernice Brothers will be touring Europe in May, and Joe will probably do a solo European tour in June. I will post those dates as soon as I have them. *** Joyce Linehan Artist Management 10A Burt Street Dorchester, MA 02124
Re: Spring is in the air!!!
Slim wrote: I just heard the four greatest words in sports: "Gentlemen, start your engines!" LET'S GO RACIN'! Slim twang content: u... I love country music? From one gearhead to another, life is good again. Now if we can just do something about this Gordon kid (though it was darn great seeing his front end pass the pit slot line by about 6 inches and that NASCAR guy just stand there til they moved it back). Boudin Dan
Re: There must be an answer to this one...
The problem is that Buddy and Mike and some others are sending posts to the lists in a multi-part Mime-encoded format-- I just made an adjustment to the send options and switched from HTML/MIME encoded to plain text. Let me know if that clears up the problem for ya! Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net -Original Message- From: Larry Slavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 1:16 PM Subject: Re: There must be an answer to this one... On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 Richard Flohil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been noting Joe Gracey's sterling defence of the Mac (I've got one too), but I wonder if it's the fault of this machine (an LC 520) that I when I get the Digest all Mike Hays' and Buddy Rocket's posts come twice - one in English and one in complete, utter, and total gibberish. The English ones are usually thoughtful and/or amusing; the others are a pain in the butt 'cos you've gotta scroll through them, and they're always MUCH longer than the English version. Is there a computer whiz who can explain, in English, why this is so and what, if anything, I can do about it. I'm no computer expert, so the details might not be exactly accurate, but here's the gist of it: notice that, in the header portion of those messages, you'll see something like Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_NextPart_000_00C1_01BE5296.368AF140" instead of Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So what you're seeing first is a text version of the message, then a Mime-encoded HTML-icized version of the post. If you were getting P2 on the single-message basis, your mail program would probably handle the message just fine, putting the two parts together and displaying it in all it's (possible) multi-colored, multi-font glory. Since we're getting it in the digest, we see it as two messages, one fairly readable and one gibberish. On your mailer, do these posts then hose up the formatting for all messages that follow? It does on mine-- Eudora Pro, although it didn't on Eudora Light on my old PC. I don't know if there's some tweak I haven't found yet on Pro, or if this is "an enhancement." So, anyway, back to the question, "what can I do about it?" As long as we're getting the digest and people send such encoded messages to the list, I don't think there's much we can do other than keep hitting the page down key. . . Larry
Re: Cap City Barn Dance
WoW, kind of good news. The gig for the 27th got canceled today. Some kind of scheduling conflict supposedly, or somebody underbid us on price, if so, hey, you get what you pay for. Looks like I'll be able to make it after all. Maybe ya'll can come down to the Moondance for the Dale Watson show (April 2 I think), we'll be opening the show. You know for me, that is the epitome of opening gigs. Dale is a huge inspiration to me. Yippeee! Mike Hays http://www.TwangCast.com TM RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you think! Mike Hays www.MikeHays.RealCountry.net For the best country artist web hosting, www.RealCountry.net -Original Message- From: Geffry King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Cap City Barn Dance Mike: Cap City Barn Dance is the 27th of February - three weeks down the road. It's at a new place called the Dogtown Lounge. A friend of mine lives about a mile from the place - I wish I could talk him into B-B-Q for three bands, cos he knows food. Check out http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/7262/ for more particulars. -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
Angry Johnny the Killbillies dates
Blatant spam alert... before reading, please put on your special spamfiltergoggles... Ob-annoyance: Paul/Pop Booking (more dates added soon) BAND: Angry Johnny the Killbillies LABEL: Tar Hut BOOKING: Pop Booking Feb. 11 - The Continental, NYC Feb 24 - Banditos, Richmond, VA Feb. 25 - The Brewery, Raliegh, NC Feb. 26 - Cowboys, Wilmington NC Feb 27 - Zenos, State College PA Mar 12 - Above Club, Worchester, MA (w/Drive by Truckers) Mar 13 - Baystate, Easthampton MA (w/Drive by Truckers) Mar 19 - Tastee World, Athens, GA (w/Drive by Truckers) Mar 20 - Star Bar, Atlanta, GA (w/Drive by Truckers) Apr 1 - The Chameleon, Lancaster PA Apr 3 - Upstairs at Nicks, Philadelphia, PA Apr 9 - James Madison Univ., Harrisonburg, VA Apr 10 - TBA, Richmond, VA Apr 16 - Rodeo Bar, NYC Apr 24 - Baystate, Easthampton MA
Re: First Posting
Alex wrote: Hello to all, i'd like to subscribe to Postcard2 mailinglist, so if someone can help, just go ahead. I'd like to recieve digest form if possible. I found this address on Postcard mailinglist and rest is history : - ) Alex In case no one else knows, Alex does a radio show in Yugoslavia/Serbia that knocks the socks off of 95% of the radio shows here in the states! Welcome Alex to P2! Paul/Pop Booking np: The Geraldine Fibbers - Butch
Stranglmartin (was: Re: Checking in...)
Steve Gardner wrote: Stranglmartin: I've been enjoying a new tape from a band called Stranglmartin that a friend made for me recently. To me they sound halfway in between Slobberbone and New York Noise. Great stuff. I know nothing about the band however. Well Steve, let me take this opportunity to do some shameless promotion... Stranglmartin began back in 1989 in Lexington, KY, they had 3 releases: Stranglmartin (Dragon Street, 1991/Musidisc Europe 1992) Wiregrass (Wrocklage, 1993) For the Sake of Argument (Safe House, 1995) In 1996, after a show in Memphis, Dave Butler (founder/chief songwriter/etc) decided that Stranglmartin needed to "take a break", and decided to join in their bassist's new band, Gladys. Although the twang element of Gladys has been argued in the past, I continually refer people to their track on the Revival 2 comp. Yep Roc put out last year! g Anyway, I checked AMG on Stranglmartin, and they've pretty much got most of it screwed up. (unless Dave did work on the Evita soundtrack without his knowledge). So if you want any other info, just drop me a line. If you don't own the first Stranglmartin album, I highly recommend you picking it up...or dubbing it off a someone...hell, I'll make anyone a dub...it's not like the band's seein' any royalties off it anyway! "I know REM, then Husker Du and the Replacements, and now Sonic Youth are supposed to be the vogue influences of the last five years, but I hear more good bands these days that obviously never stopped listening to their Minutemen records. That's fine by me. Stranglmartin are one of those bands." - Option 1991 For the file under useless trivia: Dallas TX based Dragon Street records launched Tripping Daisy (and maybe the Toadies too?) *For the Sake of Argument* was recorded by Doug Davis at Easley Recording Studios 1 week before Wilco recorded AM. (for a picture of some of the equipment they used, please refer to the inserts in AM) "Mean Old Skeleton" on FTSOA is about their good friend Paul K. I hope this is of some assistance, it was a joy seeing the Stranglmartin name on P2...I really wish those kids got their just due! Paul/Pop Booking
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
Marie says:
My favorite song on the cd is dedicated to the memory of a beloved amp.
Heck, my favorite song on the CD is about a dog ("Spit and Tears"). Go figure.
--Amy
Re: Damnations TX (was Re: best so far
Why Dan, you make P2 sound like the U.S. Congress g. I protest! I'm sure we'll have naysayers on the Damnations and that is indeed the P2 way. It sure is a good record, though. My prediction is that some of our more lyrics-oriented folk will find it less that stellar on that end. I'm digging it, in any case. FWIW, I'm one of the more lyrics-oriented folk, and I love the Damnations' lyrics; they're one of the highlights of the record for me. Funny, imaginative, moving--and they may earn a spot or two on my "obscure words used by songwriters" list. --Amy, who promises that she's done talking about the Damnations for at least a few days "Ain't no use in hanging around/Emptiness swallows its own path/I watch my weakness go down easy/And I pray it won't last..." (The Damnations TX)
Looking to trade....
I'm looking to trade for UT's "Not Forever Just for Now" 2CD set, copied or original, as well as any Whiskeytown, Scud Mountain Boys, Son Volt and Wilco stuff. I'd really prefer CDR To trade, I've got Uncle Tupelo's "Live from the Midwest", Son Volt's "High Voltage", and mulitple REM imports (a couple of which are 2CD sets). Mail me off list if interested. I'll always trade for blanks, too. Thanks a ton - Seth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
