Re: Comments on upgrade to PowerMail 6
Winston Weinmann (weinm...@mindspring.com) wrote: 3. I'm on OS 10.4 on a PPC PowerBook. So effectively I'm running a different version of the program (PPC vs. Intel). I've got a G5 with 10.4 somewhere, but not here, so at the moment I cannot check this. 4. The highlight color looks slightly darker to me in PM than in the Finder, but that's probably optical illusion. Maybe it's just that messages that are labeled have black text in PM when highlighted. Unlabeled messages have white text when highlighted. The black text is very hard to read with the highlight. What I am seeing is that the black text of unlabeled messages is displayed inverted (i.e. as white) when highlighted whereas the colored text of labeled messages retains its color even when it is highlighted. Not all the combinations of highlight color and label color make for equally readable pairs but I haven't found a combination that was really unreadable. My preferred highlight color is yellow, though; that may make a difference. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Comments on upgrade to PowerMail 6
Winston Weinmann (weinm...@mindspring.com) wrote: 3. Dragging a message from the In Tray to a folder doesn't show the message dragging. It does on my Macs (iMac and MacBook Pro) so that's quite odd; PM displays a semi-transparent letter icon and subject text when dragging a message. (I'm using PM 6.1 under Mac OS X 10.6 and 10.7.) 4. The highlight on a message being read in the In Tray is too bright. It's also almost impossible to read a message name that has been labeled, as these go dark against the blue highlight. Nor can you see how it's labeled. Definitely a step backward. The highlight color is the highlight color selected in the system-wide preferences, i.e. the same color used by the Finder etc.. Do you see a different color? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Change Body Text?
Tom Dillon (dil...@datacraft-inc.com) wrote: TL;DR How can I change the body of a received message? While I haven't tried it, I think the same restrictions apply as they would when you were editing the message manually. You cannot change the body text (or anything else for that matter) of a received or sent message; you have to copy it before you can make changes (to the copy). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: HTML display no longer working in 6.0.6
Peter Lovell (plov...@mac.com) wrote: I find that HTML display is no longer working for me in PM 6.0.6 (the final version). Is anyone else seeing this? Works for me; I didn't observe any changes in this area with 6.0.6. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: 2 GB limit
Jim Pistrang (j...@jpcr.com) wrote: I just pruned my DB to keep it under the 2GB limit, so it only has a little over 25,000 emails. Do you really mean 25,000? My PM database is under 600 MB with 90,000 messages. For what it's worth, I have found that on average my messages take up 10 KB in the message database. Should that trend continue the 2 GB limit would be good for 200,000 messages which would be adequate for my needs. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: 2 GB limit
Jeremy Hughes (jer...@softpress.com) wrote: I'm not sure what's so wrong with having thousands of message files - most application packages (e.g. Safari) contain thousands of resource files. Just try to copy one 1 MB file versus 1000 files of 1 KB each ... Not to mention that a monolithic files takes up less space. For the same reason I am not a big fan of the package idea; even moving rather than copying a package takes more time. Sometimes when I have to copy a package containing thousands of files to a slow medium I first compress the package to a ZIP archive and copy that. Even when the total file size wouldn't be significantly smaller, copying a single file is so much faster as to make this worthwhile. So I'm all for the monolithic database approach. I don't care if a backup needs to copy the whole file - copying a single file is fast. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Creator Codes
Tobias Jung (new...@tobiasjung.net) wrote: So my question is: Who is responsible for this? Is it PowerMail or OS X? And is it possible to change the default creator code for certain file types? I've just checked the attachments and most of the HTML files didn't have a creator code; also some other types of files were mostly missing creator codes. Of those which had a creator code assigned I suppose that they had that code to begin with. I don't think PM is assigning creator codes on its own. Using MSIE (of all things) as the creator code of an HTML file would be quite odd anyway. Who is still using Internet Explorer these days (under Mac OS X)? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: 2 GB limit
Jeremy Hughes (jer...@softpress.com) wrote: How often do you copy or move your mail folder? Every time I do a backup. Actually if I do a complete backup, copying the message database is the fastest part and nothing to worry about; it's copying the attachments folder that takes time (lots of mostly small files, you see?). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: powermail-discuss Digest #2886 - 10/01/10
Judith Beiss (jbe...@ix.netcom.com) wrote: PM 6.0.5 does not have HTML Interpreter. It certainly does, just like previous versions of PM did. I always download email as text and, it does seem to me, that images within an email opened w/o that blue little square box with a question mark in it. Text-based mails don't contain inline images, only images as attachments. You should be able to open these image files by double clicking. You don't see those little square boxes with question marks outside HTML mails and only when you have told PM not to load these images automatically (you can load the images using the popup menu at the bottom of the window). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Can't Export to other formats
MB (digital.disc...@gmail.com) wrote: Would the typical user be led to believe that the features of the PM database format is lost when export to say, Unix box format, and it was possible to select other formats after having selected to export all of the database? I think not. Are there any features of the PM DB-format, except being able to keep metadata for future import to another version of PM, that is worth even contemplating? I'm not sure I get the point you are trying to make, but anyway: If I remember correctly only the PowerMail format preserves the read/unread status that one may want to keep. Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Can't Export to other formats
Tim Lapin (t...@sympatico.ca) wrote: I just tried to export my mail and found that only the PowerMail exchange option is selectable. All other choices (T-Bird, Apple Mail, Unix...) are greyed out. I even closed the browser window to see if having a window onto the database was preventing it from working but no go. That's what you get when you try to export the entire message database. If you export just the selected messages (even when all messages in the database are selected) you will find that all the export options are available. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Anyone at home?
C. A. Niemiec (polarb...@friarwire.net) wrote: Just got yours now and never received my own reply to the list, namely: Is anyone at home at this list? Support isn't working, submitting a bug doesn't get a result. Sending a message to the list takes weeks to get even an error message. It's like their mail server steadily drops people and gets a manual reboot every few weeks. Rather quiet at my end with just 54 messages for 2010. That's odd; I had received that message on March 13, a few minutes after you had sent it. The listserver was apparently dead for a couple of weeks, probably all of February, but has been working reliably for most of March now. Having said that, the PowerMail discussions list has never been a particularly active one; nothing new here. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
Jeremy Hughes (jer...@softpress.com) wrote: I've been using PowerMail for maybe eight years, and Claris Emailer for about six years before that. The only way I have managed to continue using PowerMail is by moving some of my older mailing list emails (Carbon-Dev, Cocoa-Dev etc.) into Apple Mail. Which means I can't search them in PowerMail. I've been using PowerMail for 9 or 10 years and still I am not likely to hit the 2 GB limit anytime soon. I guess some people archive more mails than others. It would certainly be preferrable if the GB limit limit was eventually lifted, but it isn't a pressing issue for me. The other thing that I find tiresome with PowerMail's monolithic database is that the entire database needs to be backed up on a daily basis. With Apple Mail, the only mailboxes that get backed up in an incremental backup are the ones that have new emails. That might help if some mailboxes were updated much less frequently than the others. In my case I don't really see how I could divide incoming mail in such a way that all of the mailboxes wouldn't be updated on a daily basis anyway. So while maintaining one or even more than one message database does create issues with some backup strategies, I don't see any obvious solution - one database per mailbox might be a better solution for some users, but not for all. Storing messages as individual files would solve this particular issue, but at the same time create other issues. It would be nice if PowerMail had its own built-in backup solution synchronizing its databases with backup databases at regular and user- selectable intervals. Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: An html mail with embedded images is a perfectly reasonable thing to expect your browser to display properly. And PowerMail does. Depending on your preferences settings, PM will either display all the embedded images in HTML mail, or just those sent with the mail as an attachment. Or it will choose a plain text version, if available (which happens to be my preference). There are some remaining issues with HTML mails in PM, such as being unable to select text or links not working reliably, but displaying embedded images in HTML mails just works. I have a hunch the mails you are talking about are actually plain text mails with attached images interspersed with the text. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: Here's the html in the message. The attachments get named Image001.jpg, Image002.jpg ..., probably by PowerMail. That's odd. I've never seen anything like that, in all the years I've been using PowerMail. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
Peter Lovell (plov...@mac.com) wrote: The naming is done by the sender as part of the MIME stuff. Powermail might change the name by adding a number if the name is already used, but that's all the change I've ever seen. The Image001 ... part would be the filename chosen by the sender. If there is already a file with this name in the attachments folder, PM will append a number to the filename and adjust the references to those files to match the change. I have lots of HTML mails with attached image files such as Image001 139.jpg (where the attachment was originally named Image001.jpg) which display just fine. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: 1. .ics files can't update Calendar. Works for me; double clicking an .ics attachment opens iCal which offers to add it to some calendar. 2. Links inside html emails do not open in many cases. Yep. Works a little better than before, but still not completely reliably. 3. Emails with inline pictures do not display the pictures inline - they only appear as attachments. Is there an actual email format with inline images, I mean distinct from HTML? I thought that inline images in non-HTML mail were just regular attachments that some mail clients preferred to display inline. Personally I prefer images to be listed separately from the mail text itself (and not opened unless I choose to), but maybe there could be an option. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: For me, the attachments end up as part of the body of the text version of the message - Powermail does not detect the attachment. The mail program on the iPhone recognizes the attachment properly. I've just tried sending from iCal 4.0.1 to PM 6.0.3 and the .ics file was recognized as an attachment alright. Once again, Mail on the iPhone displays the message as the author intended. If you would prefer to see it another way, then it should be a preference, not the default action. I was wondering about the as the author intended part - is there actually a standard way to specify that images should be displayed inline, other than using HTML? Because technically those inline images are still attachments. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
A-NO-NE Music (anonemu...@mac.com) wrote: What standard now is Apple Mail. Apple Mail has a hidden preference (DisableInlineAttachmentViewing; you can set it using the shell) governing whether attachments are displayed inline. Contrary to what George supposed, Apple Mail doesn't care about the author's intentions. Anyway, if Apple Mail was the yardstick against all other mail clients were to be measured, why would anyone be using something else? I for one am glad there are alternatives to Apple Mail. PM could surely be improved, but making it more like Apple Mail is not what I would call an improvement. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time for an update!
George Henne (g...@nsbasic.com) wrote: The messages are in html, with embedded images. Once again, something PowerMail should handle gracefully. But PM already does display images inline if they are embedded within HTML messages (if you have set its preferences that way). What it doesn't do is to display images inline if they are attachments of non- HTML messages (whereas Apple Mail generally does). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Eavesdropping on email
cheshirekat (cheshire...@pobox.com) wrote: For instance, I discovered this Web Site today, http:// www.didtheyreadit.com/index.php and wondered if this really works. It claims to be able to know when the email was received, when it was opened, whether attachments were opened, and how long the email was opened for. Are they able to gather this information from PowerMail? I doubt it. They would have to enlist the services of every developer of mail clients so they would all implement some secret protocol (probably making them all insanely rich in the process, or why else would they comply?) -- not really a likely scenario. It is much more likely that they are just embedding some hidden image in the mail that resides on their server so they can extract access data from their log files. That, however, would be easy enough to prevent, simply by telling PM not to load images from external servers by default (which is what I do anyway). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Network Interface Error
Mark Gerber (markger...@charter.net) wrote: Lately, PowerMail has been giving me this error when sending a message: - A Network Interface Error Occurred Class=NETP; What=100; When=1 - It then fails to send the message, yet leaves it designated as Waiting. When I try to send it again a few minutes later, it will usually go through without a problem. These terse and not very informative error message often indicate an authentication problem -- maybe you have to check mails first before you can send mails. Something like that. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Display of Chinese characters in PowerMail
Martin Ruettenauer (wu...@bridgemail.de) wrote: OT remark: It is somehow astonishing to me that neither Apple nor a third party seems to offer a Chinese handwriting system for Mac OS X. There has been one for OS 9 and G3 processors. I still run a blueberry iMac, exclusively for that purpose. I could live with the iPhone workaround but would love to receive those emails with PowerMail. Wasn't that announced for Snow Leopard just a few days ago at the WWDC? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Dotted e-mail addresses
Leonard Morgenstern (leonar...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: I recently sent an e-mail to a woman whose address contained a dot. It bounced. I received the following message. (I have changed the address to protect her privacy.) == Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. s.smith54...@sbcglobal.net: 207.115.21.20 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 553 5.3.0 s.smith54...@sbcglobal.net... Addressee unknown, relay=[69.147.64.91] Giving up on 207.115.21.20. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. [original message omitted] After several tries, I sent it successfully using Apple's Mail program. I don't know whether the problem lies in PowerMail or yahoo.com. Most likely it is neither. PowerMail had delivered the mail to your mailserver, i.e. yahoo.com, and yahoo received the message alright. At that point, PM was done with it and yahoo.com took charge, trying to deliver the message to the recipient's mail server, namely sbcglobal.net. But then the latter complained to yahoo.com that the intended recipient was unknown, so yahoo.com gave up and relayed the error message back to you. Since you were eventually successful, I suppose this was a temporary glitch and that the recipient's server was at fault. Either that, or the address you used with PM contained an error. Mail servers are quite unforgiving when dealing with even the smallest of typos. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Problem with Powermail Addressbook and the PostCentral
Marko Hehl (ken...@arcor.de) wrote:
Okay a additional question, at Apple Mail there is a nice option which I
missed a lot in Powermail. The option for showing the X-Mailer at the PM
short header. At PM I must show at the long header to getting
information about the X-Mailer. This is not so nice. Is there also a
option, like at Apple Mail, to show the X-Mailer at the short Header?
No, I don't think so; the header fields shown in the short header
display aren't configurable. On the other hand, you could define an
AppleScript to display the desired enfo; for example:
tell application PowerMail
set theMessages to current messages
repeat with msg in theMessages
set theHeaders to the headers of msg as string
set HeaderLinesCount to the number of paragraphs in theHeaders
repeat with n from 1 to HeaderLinesCount
set aHeaderLine to paragraph n of theHeaders
if aHeaderLine starts with X-Mailer: then
set theXMailer to (characters 11 thru -1 of
aHeaderLine) as string
display dialog theXMailer buttons {OK}
default button 1
exit repeat
end if
end repeat
end repeat
end tell
There may be a better way, but it works (and it beats scrolling down to
the X-Mailer line in the long headers).
- Michael
Michael J. Hußmann
E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de
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Re: Problem with Powermail Addressbook and the PostCentral
Marko Hehl (ken...@arcor.de) wrote: If I click at the Dock icon no window will open! I have to use the shortcuts or the window command. When you close any PowerMail window before quitting the app, PM will remember your decision and not open those windows automatically when you open PM again. Just remember not to close any windows when you really want to quit PM. Also the actual post will not showing the mails correctly. So I have to disable these and use now the simple notification. I take it that with actual post you are referring to the Recent mail window (Aktuelle Post in the German version) -- actual doesn't have the same meaning as aktuell in German. I never use it (never saw any benefits it offered) and thus haven't encountered any problems, but some users were compaining about this window not keeping its content between restarts (which wouldn't concern me even if I did use it, as I never quit PM anyway). The next problem is the Addressbook sync. It will not work correctly so I have also disable the whole Adressbook sync! There are some well-known issues with the Address Book sync; still, I keep it turned on so I have access to mail addresses defined in the system-wide Address Book. Actually I would prefer PM to rely on Apple's Address Book exclusively, rather than even attempting a synchronization. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: PM6 clippings and URL behaviors changed?
Tom Bulat (t...@dandeliondigital.com) wrote: I'm now using PM6 and I went to drag a URL into my e-mail and instead of being entered into my text document it becomes an attachment, same thing happens with clippings. I can confirm that text clippings get added as attachments (not sure it worked before). URLs dragged from Safari, Firefox, or a text editor, on the other hand, are inserted as text enclosed within into the body text, just as it should be. Also, I used to be able to select text and drag and drop it from Subject lines, and now that isn't do-able anymore either. I have no idea whether it used to work before (I prefer copypaste to dragdrop myself), but indeed it doesn't work with the current version. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: 6.0 Crashing
Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) wrote: Matthias--could you explain in more detail? I use Pathfinder too. Does it cause this problem, or fix this problem? Which version of StuffIt do you suspect? And btw, does PM really rely on StuffIt? After all, it doesn't support creating StuffIt archives anymore. (I still have some version of StuffIt installed, but I have stopped using it a long time ago.) - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: 6.0 Crashing
Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) wrote: PM 6 is crashing on me a few times a week. I can't discover any pattern to the crashes, but they are usually ( 50%) followed by a 6-minute reindexing when I relaunch PM. It makes it difficult to respond quickly to emails! Has anyone else found this? Any thoughts on how to minimize crashing? In my experience, PM 6 (and PM 5 before) crashes rarely, but when it does, it is invariably when I try to send some mail with a large attachment. At the stage when PM is supposed to do the zipping and encoding of the attachment prior to actually sending the message, it just displays the spinning beachball, then either crashes or freezes until I do a force quit. When I re-open PM, it usually has to rebuild its index; after that I find the outgoing message in the Out basket and can dispatch it without problem. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: mich...@michael-hussmann.de WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0 universal released
Mark Gerber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There was an announcement about the public beta that was sent to the list a week or so ago. The coupon code should be in that text. Indeed it was, but I also received an announcement of the final version today, again including the coupon code (but otherwise identical to the announcement on the list). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: SpamSieve Statistics
Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Showing Statistics Since 14/10/2008 12:00 Maybe you should set the date to a year ago or so. You are looking at the statistics for just one day. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: One other wish for PM6
Rene Merz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I do not know this problem. In such a case my PM sends _all_ other messages from all _other_ accounts. It seems that your problem has nothing to do with a possible down of your VPN server but with a down of your general _internet_-connection. In such a case, of course, PM cannot send any mail to anywhere. Same here. I have set PM to deal with all accounts in parallel, and it does. On the other hand, I would wish PM's error messages to be more descriptive. PM doesn't, for example, tell me that there was a problem with a failed authorization attempt, or an SMTP server not relaying mail, but only says that an error occurred. Even when I ask it to tell me more, all I get are cryptic error codes that don't provide any indication (intelligible by me) of what, exactly, went wrong. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: reason for HTML-only?
Tim Lapin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You miss the point, I think. These messages cannot be displayed by PM in any mode. I have received a few myself. So far, this thread was about HTML-only mails, and PM has no problems displaying HTML-only mails that I am aware of. There is an issue with mails containing multiple HTML parts or combinations of HTML and plain text parts, but that's a different matter. In those cases, the individual parts can only be displayed in a web browser. PowerMail, however, is the fly in the ointment with its monolithic structure. Hmm .. actually, I prefer monolithic databases, if only for the fact that monolithic files copy much much faster than folders containing a myriad of small files. But then, I don't use Time Machine. Even when PM's mail database was dissolved into many small files, other databases, virtual disks and such won't be going away. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: reason for HTML-only?
Tim Lapin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Exactly what I and others have written. This thread started with the question: Do anyone here have clue on what possible reasons there could be to choosing to send HTML-only messages, instead of mixed messages without a pure text part as well? Then the thread got hijacked and now you are complaining about the well- known issue of PM being unable to make multiple HTML parts into something it can display. It might have been better to start a new thread if you want to discuss this (although I don't think anything has changed since Jérôme explained CTM's take the issue on 6/20/2008). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: reason for HTML-only?
Matthias Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Regarding the database, weather people prefer monolithic databases or not, it doesn't matter. The current backup technology doesn't prefer this structure. Same thing with priority and some other features. All mail clients do support that stuff, PM doesn't ... PM doesn't define the standards, the major players do, so PM should stick with it. Years ago, I switched to PM because (coming from Claris Emailer) I felt immediately at home with it. I still do. For a while, I had been forced to use Outlook, which I despised, and I've tried Apple's Mail, which I thought was a bit strange. PM is still the mail client I like best. Now from time to time, there are people complaining about how PM isn't more like mail client X, Y, or Z. But if I preferred X, Y, or Z, I would have switched to one of those a long time ago. As it happens, I like the basic philosophy behind PM. There is certainly room for improvement, no doubt about that, but basically, PM's just fine. I would hate it to turn into a replica of one of the competing clients. Diversity is a good thing, and certainly preferrable to following standards that aren't even standards. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Mail Filtering
Joe Hallett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Here is the problem: We frequently receive messages that are addressed to each of us as individuals. The filters treat each copy as if it were a new message. This results in forwarding duplicate copies, confusing our filing and labeling system, and causing extra manual effort to sort things out. How can I flag these messages and apply unique processing depending upon whether our names both appear in the address fields? In this case, there are really two messages being sent; it is not a case of as if. Of course, you can filter for messages sent to both of you (both addresses appearing in TO fields), but there will still be duplicate mails to be dealt with -- there will always be two separate mails, both addressed to both of you. You might filter for mails that are (1) addressed to you, (2) addressed to your wife, and (3) retrieved using you wife's account, and discard those. Then you can apply all the normal actions to the copy retrieved using your own account. Assuming that you both regularly retrieve mails from all accounts, rather than just your own, this should work reasonably well. Otherwise, your will wife would see those mails only after you have retrieved yours. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Show Hide PM
Michael Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the hiding issue and have HTML viewing turned off. I have chosen to use the button at the bottom of the message to tun on the HTML or view in a browser. Would webkit still be the causing the hiding issue even when HTML viewing is off? I am using PowerMail 5.6.3 in Mac OS X 10.4.11. I think I've got a problem hiding PM once or twice, but that was months ago and hasn't happened ever since. It was probably just the command-H bug that got fixed in 5.6.3. I cannot reproduce the problem under 10.4.11 now (or under 10.5, for that matter), even when some HTML mail is displayed. PM hides and shows just fine. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Review of Power Mail
Bill Lane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When html mail arrives, PowerMail wants you to make a choice... open your web browser to read it, download the images, or read it as plain text (which sometimes turns out to be a blank screen). Other mail programs assume you want to read it, unless it's spam. Isn't that just a matter of setting PowerMail's preferences? I have set it to prefer the plain text part of the mail, if it exists, and not to load the images in advance. If I want to see the HTML part including the images, I have to switch to HTML using the pop-up menu. But that is just my choice, and I could have told it to favour HTML mail and load embedded images, if I wanted to. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Review of Power Mail
Tim Lapin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: While I too prefer plain text e-mail I agree that more and more legitimate e-mail is now in HTML format. Unfortunately, PM doesn't really know what to do with it. Such e-mail might be readable in plain text but it also might result in a blank page. If the mail is HTML-only, PM displays HTML. If it contains just plain text, it displays plain text. If there are both HTML and plain text parts, PM displays whatever you've selected as your preference, and when you want to see the other part of the mail, there is a pop-up menu allowing you to select that. What else could PM possibly do, I wonder? (There are some mails I particularly despise, namely those that have both an HTML and a text part, but where the plain text only tells me to look for the real content in the HTML part. PM doesn't realize that the plain text part doesn't include any real content, but I cannot blame it for that.) - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: browser setting question
Gerald F. Carroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The way i have done it in the past is to start up Apples Safari and in the preferences there is a setting for default browser. These are two quite different defaults: setting the default browser for handling the http protocol (which you can do in Safari, for example, or with MisFox) on the one hand, and setting the default application for opening .html (or .htm) files on the other, which is usually done in the info window invoked in the Finder. With attachments, only the latter applies; the default browser setting is irrelevant and will be ignored. For example, you could select Safari as your default browser and still have .html files open with your favorite HTML editor. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: exporting message status
Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm not on the latest version of PM but can anyone tell me whether 5.6.1 still has the issue of every message exported (whether read, unread, redirected, forwarded, or whatever) getting imported as 'Unread'? I think the outcome of last year's discussion of this issue was that there is no standard status field that PM could export and that Mail would read, so the read/unread status cannot be preserved. Status seems to be something that every mail clients implements in its own proprietary way. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: deleted accounts
Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have found that deleting the account from PM means that any messages that were retrieved from that account no longer have an account associated with them (which makes sense). But I don't like having 'holes' in PM's information database -- that sort of thing can only cause trouble if PM looks for some info that it expects and it isn't there. So before deleting accounts A, B, C, D E I've been amending them to be associated with account X. The only way I could find to do this was to set up a filter and run it manually on search-for results. A bit of a fiddle but worth it because now I don't have any messages with the 'account' part of their info left blank; they all reflect the correct new accounts. I suppose an AppleScript could do the job, but honestly, I wouldn't bother. As far as I can tell (and I've deleted a couple of obsolete accounts so far), PowerMail can deal with account-less mail just fine; it doesn't really expect this link to exist. And the account link associated with an archived mail isn't terribly important anyway -- I mean, as long as I can still tell that some mail was sent to a certain obsolete address of mine, why should I care whether that mail was retrieved via the account once associated with that address? The only use of that info (that I can think of) would be that I might want to reply to that mail using the same account. But if the account doesn't exist anymore, there's no reason to even try. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Sending, Compress and attachment Question
Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 1st Why I can't see when a Attachment ist compressed (ZIP)? With the pop-up menus at the bottom of the mail window, you can select the coding and the compression (zip or none) of attachments. 2nd Is it possible to make into the mail a list of attachments like hat: 1. example1.doc (100KB) 2. example2.pdf (10KB) This kind of info is displayed at the bottom of the mail window. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Threading
Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: - reciept- and reading confirmation There is no way to be sure someone has really read your mail unless they've said so, and anyway, a request for automatic confirmation can be construed as an intrusion on privacy. If PowerMail should support this feature in a future version, I would instantly turn it off. This kind of information is nobody's business unless I decide it is. - Threading I've never used a mail client that supported threading, so I don't know _what_ I miss -- but I cannot say that I miss it. All I hear is people complaining about threading not working reliably. For example, I have subscribed to several mailing lists in digest mode. When I am replying to a message within a digest, I am necessarily breaking the thread; there's nothing I can do about it. - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters should do that they don't do already? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Threading
Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ok show me the filter for list-id ;) Because the list-id is allways the same address. In some lists you have the list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to. Well, if there is a list-id (whatever that is) in the header, then you can filter for it (select Anderes Feld ... if it's not in the standard list of header fields). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Threading
Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sorry to say it ;) You are wrong here an example header from a mailman list and that's a header what is strict RFC: Well, it is as I (and others) have said: If there is a list-id field in the header (not for this list, as far as I can tell), then you can filter for it using Other field ... (I had mentioned the German localization Anderes Feld..., assuming you were German). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Threading
Hans Gomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm not sure but I think normal the MUA's I know do the threading by using the message ID. Normal every thread have a starting message id and if you look for example the message ID here (Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) will be during the thread allways the same (local part) only if a reply of a reply follows the host part change. But I'm not the real expert in this thing I only think to remember to read something bout the threading and how it normal works in MUA's. The message ID will be different for each mail within a thread, but there is an In-Reply-To field that contains the message ID of the message replied to; this is used for threading. For example, copying from the header of your message: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the ID of Barbara's message that you replied to. However, sometimes threading doesn't work, either because someone participating in an exchange doesn't use reply or because the reply is to a message within a digest (which has its own message ID that is not connected to any thread). Or someone hits Reply, but edits the subject as he really wants to start a new thread. In the first case, the thread breaks up into two subthreads, and in the second case, mail clients supporting threading will display the message within a thread it doesn't belong to. The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by thread. But thankfully, filtering for List-id isn't a problem at all; you can do it if you want. If the mail headers do contain a List-id field, that is: of the 16 mailing lists I've subscribed to, only 6 use list-id. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
Sean McBride ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet to see such an email address) And you will never see one, because accented letters (and all other characters outside the ASCII character set, plus some ASCII characters) are not allowed in mail addresses. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_E-mail Just to clear that up: with never, I didn't intend to mean never until the heat-death of the universe, just never, given current internet standards. MB had mentioned that he had yet to see such an email address, but it wasn't like there was someone out there with an email address containing accented or umlauted characters, and once this person would write MB, he would eventually see such an email address. He hasn't seen such an email address because there aren't any. Obviously, current restrictions can be lifted and characters outside the ASCII range will some day be allowed in email addresses. When that happens, PowerMail should be updated to conform to the new standard. Until then, it should conform to (and even enforce) the current standard. (Now, personally, I am not a big fan of international email addresses, even when perhaps I should, given that my name contains a character outside the ASCII range. But that's a different issue.) - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Did I make a huge mistake here?
John Maylone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Then when PM finally opened, the newest mail showing in the database was dated October 22, 2006..13 months ago. Could it be that PowerMail found the wrong database -- an old backup version perhaps? This seems to be the most likely explanation, given the circumstances. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Interesting. Can you try and put this fake address in your PowerMail address bok, not Apple Address book: Eva Holgén [EMAIL PROTECTED] and report how that works? What is the displayed name? The displayed name is Eva Holgén, just as it should be. Today it isn't. Never? I don't think so. There are umlauts in web URLs now. At least under some top domains. Yes, the current standard might change some day. But as of today, only a subset of ASCII characters are allowed, and if PowerMail doesn't accept anything else, that's just correct behaviour. What good would it do you if you could enter an address that must be wrong? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time Machine discussion.
Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, even if the mail database was split into several databases, you could still run against the 2 GB limit. Yes, and you could split a large folder into two smaller folders to deal with this. Yes, you could, but it's an awkward solution. For example, I have set up folders for the 15+ mailing lists I'm on. Some contain just a few hundred of mails, the largest one nearly 12.000, but that's OK -- I wouldn't want to arbitrarily divide these 12.000 mails into different subfolders. Wouldn't lifting the 2 GB limit be a more straight-forward remedy? Maybe, but PowerMail have said they're not going to do this. Not going to do this as in never ever? I don't think so. CTM doesn't seem to believe the 2 GB limit creates a serious issue for the overwhelming majority of users, but when this limit should detract a growing number of potential customers from using PowerMail, I am convinced they would take the trouble of lifting this restriction, even if it means converting a lot of code from 32 to 64 bits. In any case, it doesn't solve the backup problem. Neither does the multiple database approach. But it's a different problem anyway. The main issue with Time Machine backups is the risk of corruption, but the ball is in Apple's court here. With Apple's own Aperture being incompatible with Time Machine precisely because of the risk of creating corruption, I think it's prudent to wait and see what Apple's going to do about it. As you said, you don't use email very heavily and your database is much smaller than 2 GB. For those of us who have larger databases, the way that PowerMail currently behaves is a problem. Until today, I would have said I do use email heavily; it's my main means of communication in my job. I just don't keep that many mails, even when I would keep a mail rather than deleting it when in doubt. Also, I'm on digest mode on most of the more active mailing lists. I really wonder how many users of PowerMail actually hit the 2 GB limit regularly. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You're missing the obvious here. The part I have difficulties with is NOT the actual mail address in itself, but the name part that come BEFORE the mail address. I know; I just added my remark about accented characters in email addresses because you had mentioned those as well in your message to CTM. In my experience, PowerMail has no trouble whatsoever in dealing with accented or umlauted characters in real names. It doesn't accept those characters in an email addresses (as you mentioned), but that's correct behaviour. The address is between brackets and we are both in agreement what characters can be contained there. However the name part is still an integral part of the header. I have had several problems with accented and umlaut characters there. Yes, and I am unable to reproduce these problems with PowerMail 5.5.3. And I never experienced an issue like this in the past, with previous versions of PowerMail (which I've been using since 2000, migrating from Claris Emailer). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Could you please try again, and this time *type* the accented characters? Ah, I see! Now I get the same behaviour you are experiencing! So there's a bug in the code accepting keyboard input in the address book. It works just fine if I enter the name in the mail's address field directly. This should narrow the issue down far enough for CTM to quickly fix it. It appears I usually enter names and addresses into the address book from the context menue (which doesn't have this issue, as does copypaste). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
Michael J. Hußmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ah, I see! Now I get the same behaviour you are experiencing! So there's a bug in the code accepting keyboard input in the address book. It works just fine if I enter the name in the mail's address field directly. This should narrow the issue down far enough for CTM to quickly fix it. This appears to be a problem not with accented characters as such, but with dead keys like `, ´, or ~. CTM developers in Geneva wouldn't experience this problem as they can type most of those accented characters directly on their French keyboards, without resorting to dead keys. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Time Machine discussion.
Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I *really* wish PowerMail would follow other email programs in splitting its database into separate databases for each email folder: I'm not sure I'd agree. I suppose that the internal handling of mails is much simpler and faster if every mail resides within a single database. 1. This would solve the problem of the 2 GB limit. Currently, I have to compact my database every two to three weeks. Eventually (perhaps within the next year) I will have to switch to a different email client. After more than seven years of using PowerMail, it appears that I'm not likely to hit the 2 GB within the next decade at least, but maybe I am an exception. Anyway, even if the mail database was split into several databases, you could still run against the 2 GB limit. Wouldn't lifting the 2 GB limit be a more straight-forward remedy? 2. Backing up a single database that is nearly 2 GB in size, whether it's done hourly with Time Machine or daily with Retrospect (or another backup program), is wasteful of backup time and resources. With a couple of databases, it would be just the same -- unless some folders were rarely used and thus wouldn't need to be saved with each backup. Unfortunately, folders whose content rarely changes typically contain a relatively small number of mails (for just that reason), so even when these folders weren't included in every backup, the disk space saved would be negligible. With my setup, most folders receive mails all the time, so it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway. However, the problem Time Machine has with big files that are frequently changed is a general one, and not just for database files; virtual volumes for example are suffering from the same problem. Even Apple's Aperture is affected. This problem isn't likely to go away, so I would say it is up to Apple to provide a solution. Maybe Apple hadn't thought of this when designing Time Machine, but eventually, they will have to. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet to see such an email address) then the displayed name will be shortened to the letters prior to the letter with an apostrophe. So Camilla Berndzén will be shortened to Camilla Berndz for example. Worse is that if you type Berndzén as in my example with the previous mentioned data in the PM adressbook, then nothing is found if you get to the letter with the apostrophe. If you only type Bernd you do find the person. This could easily be overlooked if the user unknowingly types fast. Further comment for the list: I have been and continue to be a bit surprised with how badly PowerMail handles umlauts (å, ä, ö, ü) and apostrophes (á, é, à, è, í, ì and so on), especially considering CTM is a swiss outfit and several of the languages spoken in Switzerland do make use of both umlauts or apostrophes. You are really talking about accented letters here, not apostrophes. á is a single character, not an a and an apostrophe. But anyway, I'm not seeing any of this in PowerMail. So far, I've experienced no problems with names containing accented characters, umlauted characters, or other characters outside the ASCII range (and my address book contains quite a few of these). - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet to see such an email address) And you will never see one, because accented letters (and all other characters outside the ASCII character set, plus some ASCII characters) are not allowed in mail addresses. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Exporting from PowerMail - all mail is Unread
Jeremy Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's disappointing that no one from CTM has commented on this, or on the basic problem of the 2 GB limit. The last official comment I saw about the 2 GB problem was that they're not planning to do anything to address it. I suppose the 2 GB limit isn't much of a concern to CTM, as few users are affected by it. I've been using PowerMail for seven years now (since April 2000, as that's the date of the oldest mails I have archived), and even though I send and receive lots of mails and tend to keep mails rather than delete them when in doubt, my message database is still under 200 MB. As you can guess, I am not at all concerned about the 2 GB limit, as I am not likely to ever hit that 2 GB limit during my lifetime. Maybe that's a fairly typical user experience? - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
Re: Applescript not triggering, WAS Attachment link failing
Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: (Actually I had never noticed the Applescript option as a filter *condition* before. How does that work? I mean, how is 'Applescript' a true or false condition?) It seems that you can write custom filter conditions with AppleScript -- take a look at the supplied example script (AppleScript filter condition example.scpt) that can serve as a starting point. Actually, I hadn't noticed this one either, but it's an interesting feature. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de
