PowerMail crashes in WebCore while rebuilding search index
Hi all, With PowerMail open at the time, my whole macOS paniced and I had to force a reboot. Since then, PM crashes with the backtrace below. Does the backtrace give a hint as to how I might work around this? It occurs when rebuilding the search index. Perhaps there is an email I could delete to stop the crash? But how to find it… Thanks, Sean Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 com.apple.WebCore bmalloc::IsoAllocator >::allocateSlow(bool) + 72 1 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::InlineFlowBox::operator new(unsigned long) + 129 2 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderInline::createInlineFlowBox() + 33 3 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderInline::createAndAppendInlineFlowBox() + 33 4 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::createInlineBoxForRenderer(WebCore::RenderObject*, bool, bool) + 89 5 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::createLineBoxes(WebCore::RenderObject*, WebCore::LineInfo const&, WebCore::InlineBox*) + 252 6 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::constructLine(WebCore::BidiRunList&, WebCore::LineInfo const&) + 460 7 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::createLineBoxesFromBidiRuns(unsigned int, WebCore::BidiRunList&, WebCore::InlineIterator const&, WebCore::LineInfo&, WebCore::VerticalPositionCache&, WebCore::BidiRun*, WTF::Vector&) + 51 8 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutRunsAndFloatsInRange(WebCore::LineLayoutState&, WebCore::BidiResolverWithIsolate&, WebCore::InlineIterator const&, WebCore::BidiStatus const&, unsigned int) + 5037 9 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutRunsAndFloats(WebCore::LineLayoutState&, bool) + 1323 10 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutLineBoxes(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 1631 11 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 907 12 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 13 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChild(WebCore::RenderBox&, WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::MarginInfo&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 808 14 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChildren(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 854 15 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 872 16 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 17 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChild(WebCore::RenderBox&, WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::MarginInfo&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 808 18 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChildren(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 854 19 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 872 20 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 21 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChild(WebCore::RenderBox&, WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::MarginInfo&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 808 22 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChildren(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 854 23 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 872 24 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 25 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChild(WebCore::RenderBox&, WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::MarginInfo&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 808 26 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChildren(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 854 27 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 872 28 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 29 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChild(WebCore::RenderBox&, WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::MarginInfo&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 808 30 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlockChildren(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit&) + 854 31 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlockFlow::layoutBlock(bool, WebCore::LayoutUnit) + 872 32 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderBlock::layout() + 68 33 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::RenderView::layout() + 612 34 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::LayoutContext::layout() + 1100 35 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::Document::implicitClose() + 818 36 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::FrameLoader::checkCompleted() + 379 37 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::FrameLoader::finishedParsing() + 117 38 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::Document::finishedParsing() + 289 39 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::HTMLConstructionSite::finishedParsing() + 19 40 com.apple.WebCore WebCore::HTMLTreeBuilder::finished() + 26 41
Re: Archiving Emails
PowerMail itself can export to a few formats, I just periodically export to Mail.app when my database gets too full. On Apr 16, 2014, at 03:03, Chris wrote: Hi all: I have an increasingly large database of emails going back over a number of years and mindful of the 2Gb database limit it seems sensible to archive at least some of them. Could someone let me know the best way to do this as I believe there are several programs around that claim to do this painlessly. I think the PowerMail devs produced a database to which messages could be archived and perhaps if anyone still has a copy that might be the simplest way. Any suggestions appreciated. Chris
Re: invalid helo cmd - bug or what?
I have this error too. In my case, the server is OS X 10.6 Server, and I'm using SSL. Sean On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:12, CTM info wrote: YES there seems to be a bug in our new networking code for dealing with certain SMTP servers, possibly (but not certainly) having to do with SSL.
No longer able to send email as of PowerMail 6.2
Hi all, As of PM 6.2 I cannot send email. I get the error 5.5.2 [fe80::1]: Helo command rejected: invalid ip address. This is on 10.8.5. I went back to 6.1 and it worked again. This is using my work's SMTP server (for which I could get logs). Can anyone help? Thanks, Sean
Re: PM going forward
On Aug 17, 2012, at 03:57, Koen Keevel wrote: So what are the future plans from ctmdev? You guys are all dreaming. PowerMail is dead. It's sad but true. It's still a 32 bit Carbon app after years and years now of Apple telling developers they needed to move to Cocoa. Since PowerMail still hasn't made that switch, it's not likely to now. I appreciate that CTM is keeping it on life support, and still use it at work, but a dozen users offering a few pennies isn't going to change anything. I wouldn't be surprised if OS X 10.9 drops support for 32 bit, and then PowerMail won't work. :( Sean
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.1.1b2 available for testing
On Mar 12, 2012, at 13:37, CTM info wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of PowerMail 6.1.1b2, available from: I've noticed one regression: when doing 'show thread' (cmd-opt-t) the window that pops up doesn't show the right messages. I forget if I was in 10.7 or 10.8, but it reproduced every time. Sean
Re: Powemail settings for Me.com
On Feb 25, 2012, at 18:48, T.L. Miller wrote: The only options seem to be 1) start using IMAP (which is not PowerMail's strong suit I wonder what it would take for CTMdev to improve? You could win the lotto and hire CTM. I think that's about your only hope. :(
Re: Re(5): Fwd: Really need a way to forward HTML messages
On Sep 13, 2011, at 20:28, Winston Weinmann wrote: Are there any other differences between Forward and Redirect? http://email.about.com/cs/usingemail/a/redirect.htm
Re: PowerMail in OS X Lion?
On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:26, Mirko Kranenburg wrote: Any insights in the outlook for PowerMail under Lion? It's been working fine for me in the developer seeds. But since it's an old Carbon app, it doesn't support some of the new features. 10.7 has dropped support for PowerPC apps and 32 bit Intel hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if 10.8 dropped support for 32 bit intel apps, if so, 10.7 might be the last OS that can still run PowerMail. Sean
Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable
On Jun 14, 2011, at 18:45, Ben Kennedy wrote: New release (6.1b3) has fixed this it seems! Indeed it is -- woohoo. Thanks, Jérôme! Yes, this small change makes a huge difference! Though I've given up on PowerMail at home, this will let me hang on a little longer at work (where the 2 GB limit is less of a problem). Sean
Re: Text wrapping and quoted-printable
On Feb 25, 2011, at 15:03, Ben Kennedy wrote: Hey all, I'm loath to revive an old and (I thought settled) discussion, but I did a search of my saved email and can't seem to find the particulars. What was the final word on the state of PowerMail's handling of text- wrapping in outbound messages? This bug annoys me as well. No doubt it will never be fixed. :( I routinely get hell from my colleagues using Mail.app when I try to send them URLs that get broken across line breaks. Mail.app does not respect the angle-bracket convention, so it only sees the first part of the URL. More chance of Apple fixing this. Is it just a convention or it is actually in an RFC or something? Sean
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 6.0.6b2 for testing
The final 6.0.6 did exactly that to me too. On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:12, Peter Lovell wrote: the 6.0.6b2 update died when it started (Install and relaunch). It said my PMkey file was invalid. I started again and it seems to be OK.
Re: 2 GB limit
Paul Schneider (powerm...@speedware.at) on 2010-11-05 18:11 said: Thank you John, good to know that I'm not the only one. In case CTM keeps ignoring my question about the limit, I'm afraid that I have to drop PM too. Which email client are you all switching to? I'm not sure which to choose Sean
Re: Bug with international letters eg. ISO-8859-1
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2010-05-10 05:47 said: Here in Denmark, we now have the possibility to make international domaines now, with special scandinavian letters like 'æøå' (ae oe aa) .. But it seems that PowerMail 6.0.4 is not capable of handling this? PowerMail does not currently support international domain names or email addresses. Will it support them in the near term? long term? ever? If not, it's really a nail in the coffin. An email client that can't send email to everyone is not a good thing, analogous to a web browser that doesn't work with all websites. PS: 6.0.5b1 is working well for me. Sean
Re: Anyone at home?
Beatrix Willius (bwill...@gmx.de) on 2010-03-13 07:11 said: Is anyone at home at this list? Support isn't working, submitting a bug doesn't get a result. Sending a message to the list takes weeks to get even an error message. Duh. PowerMail is dead. :( Sean
Re: Time for an update!
Tobias Jung (new...@tobiasjung.net) on 2010-01-22 06:37 said: 1. Larger than 2GB archive sizes (I have two suggestions: a) a way to create folders that use separate DBs, and/or a DB per email account That's my #1 request as well. I have one email account, and PowerMail's 2GB limit combined with its monolithic database is a crippling restriction. Having separate databases for each folder is what Apple Mail does. I wish PowerMail would do this. Don't get my wrong – I don't want to critisize or anything, I'm really just curios: How many messages do you get? (And I'm talking of messages that you keep so spam doesn't count.) I have hundreds of thousands of messages, spaning many years, and I'd like to keep them all, and search easily at any time. In an age when my _phone_ has 16 GB of memory, why should my email be limited to 2 GB? It's just silly. Sean
Letters.app - idea for new power user Mac email client
Hi all, There is a Mac developer named Brent Simmons that, on his blog, tossed out the idea about creating a new power user Mac email client: http://inessential.com/2010/01/16/email_init Looks like there are a bunch of people that think it would be a good idea. He's created a mailing list too: http://lists.ranchero.com/listinfo.cgi/letters-dev-ranchero.com Could be interesting Sean
Re: PowerMail into the future
A Sanna (asa...@sacofoods.com) on 2009-09-02 4:52 PM said: My database goes back a while, as well - 12 years, to September 4, 1997. Wow, you guys are lucky. You must also not get lots of mail. :) Mine only goes back to 2006 because of PowerMail's 2 GB database limit. That's what I'd most like to see changed. Sean
Re: Powermail on OS X 10.6? - G3 Alert
Don Zahniser (dzahni...@rochester.rr.com) on 2009-08-29 7:20 AM said: Just to save a bit of problems for G3 users - When I downloaded and installed 6.03b1, it immediately crashed on my PowerBook G3 (Pismo). I restored the application from a previous download, and am back in business. If you open Terminal and type: $ lipo -info /Applications/PowerMail.app/Contents/MacOS/PowerMail What does it say? Sean
Re: Powermail on OS X 10.6? - G3 Alert
Ben Kennedy (b...@zygoat.ca) on 2009-08-29 3:36 PM said: $ lipo -info /Applications/PowerMail.app/Contents/MacOS/PowerMail I'll save Don the trouble and give an answer: lipo reports ppc7400 i386 for the new PowerMail build. Thus, it will apparently run only on G4 and G5 PPCs. And PM 6.0.2 reports ppc i386. This makes all the difference, as you say. If CTM wants to build on 10.6, they really should use gcc 4.0 and the 10.4 SDK for best compatibility with older machines/OSes. Sean
Re: Powermail on OS X 10.6?
Bill Schjelderup (b...@companioncorp.com) on 2009-08-25 5:21 PM said: Has anyone tried Powermail (the latest build) with 10.6? I expect it will work just fine, but I thought I'd check as Powermail is a must have application for me. And now that the NDA is over... I've been using PM in 10.6 for over a year and had basically no problems. The Quick Look thing does crash, as others have said. The rest works great. Sean
Re: Powermail on OS X 10.6?
Bill Schjelderup (b...@companioncorp.com) on 2009-08-25 5:21 PM said: Has anyone tried Powermail (the latest build) with 10.6? I expect it will work just fine, but I thought I'd check as Powermail is a must have application for me. Anyone who has 10.6 legally is under NDA and can't discuss anything about 10.6 until Friday. Sean
Re: emailing photos from iPhoto 09
Matthias Schmidt (p...@schmidt-system.de) on 2009-03-28 11:04 PM said: maybe one could mal the guy, and ask him to to update the script? The last time iPhoto was updated we all had this problem too. As I recall he didn't have the time/interest to update it last time. He sent me the source code. I'll try to dig it up this weekend and update it for the new iPhoto. Sean
Re: Mysterious error 268435556
Peter Lovell (plov...@mac.com) on 2009-02-07 2:05 PM said: PowerMail 6.0.1 is giving me this: 'Unexpected error on my.pop.server Class='NetC',what=1,when=6,err=268435556' Any idea what this means? Well, it's 0x1064 I'm not sure what that code is for though. I've long been puzzled by these Class/what/when errors and found that they are usually a comms failure. That's just a guess. Well, it turns out my POP server was down. I think the error message should basically have been timeout. -- Sean McBride, B. Eng cwat...@cam.org Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Mysterious error 268435556
Hi all, PowerMail 6.0.1 is giving me this: 'Unexpected error on my.pop.server Class='NetC',what=1,when=6,err=268435556' Any idea what this means? Sean
Re: PM Key still won't register 6.0
li...@urbanpeace.net (li...@urbanpeace.net) on 2009-01-19 5:55 PM said: I paid for upgrade to 6.0 over two and a half weeks ago, was sent a key, it didn't work. i've double-clicked, dragged, etc. the PM Key icon. PM just wants to make an attachment out of it. sometime is opens up Terminal. sometimes i can open as a text message and see the code, but can't do anything with it. I bet I know what it is Which email client did you receive the PMKey file with? It's a text file and some mail clients screw with the line endings. Try opening the file with TextWrangler and change the line endings to Mac. PM should be able to deal with any line endings, but has had this bug for years. Sean
Re: 6.0 Crashing
Alan Harper (l...@alanharper.com) on 2009-01-06 12:12 AM said: PM 6 is crashing on me a few times a week. I can't discover any pattern to the crashes, but they are usually ( 50%) followed by a 6-minute reindexing when I relaunch PM. It makes it difficult to respond quickly to emails! Has anyone else found this? Maybe once a week for me. Any thoughts on how to minimize crashing? Have you sent the crash logs to CTM? You might be able to make the crash reproduce by turning on some OS X debug features. Open Terminal and paste in the following: export MallocPreScribble=1 export MallocScribble=1 export MallocGuardEdges=1 export MallocStackLogging=1 open /Applications/PowerMail.app Sean
Re: PM6 View Thread problem (minor)
Matthias Schmidt (p...@schmidt-system.de) on 2009-01-04 4:32 AM said: Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for messages whose subject include the exact phrase foo bar). That is not perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but with the same subject, especially for short subjects like hello. But it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has been changed). Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To, Message-Id, and similar headers? I'd ask the same question It shouldn't be too difficult to implement this as a fixed search for those headers. I'll add that the way it is done currently makes it not very useful. My Cocoa-dev folder has 116000 messages. Many message subjects are similar. Viewing by thread is important precisely in those situations where you have many many similar messages that you are trying to sort out. Sean
Re: PM6 View Thread problem (minor)
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said: For me, it's acting as follows: - I select a message with title foo bar - I choose 'View Thread' - a new window appears showing messages with foo and bar in their subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses some that are part of the thread. Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for messages whose subject include the exact phrase foo bar). That is not perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but with the same subject, especially for short subjects like hello. But it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has been changed). Rebuilding indexes (first 4 checkboxes at option-command launch) fixed the problem of missing results. But of course there are still too many results, and results will still be missing if the subject changes. I do hope 6.x will use the In-Reply-To header! Thanks, Sean
Re: PM6 View Thread problem (minor)
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2009-01-03 6:14 AM said: I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. For me, it's acting as follows: - I select a message with title foo bar - I choose 'View Thread' - a new window appears showing messages with foo and bar in their subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses some that are part of the thread. Yes, that is how this feature is implemented (but it searches for messages whose subject include the exact phrase foo bar). That is not perfect, as it will find messages belonging to different threads but with the same subject, especially for short subjects like hello. But it should not miss messages of the thread (unless if the subject has been changed). Why did you choose to use the Subject instead of the In-Reply-To, Message-Id, and similar headers? Are you on Apple's Cocoa list? Maybe you can repro the exact case that I can. See attached screenshot (which I'll send separately since this list doesn't allow attachments). Sean
Re: One other wish for PM6
PowerMail Engineering (jer...@ctmdev.com) on 2008-09-01 10:12 AM said: Even when I ask it to tell me more, all I get are cryptic error codes that don't provide any indication (intelligible by me) of what, exactly, went wrong. If you have a reproducible case of a server error or network error that produce a generic error dialog with an error code, please let me know, so I can try to reproduce the problem to generate a more adequate error message. I have one. If I change my SMTP server settings: 'Use secure connection (SSL/TLS) from OFF - ON. Then PowerMail gives the message: 'Class=NetP; what=6; when=1' and thunderbird gives a much better error. Thanks, Sean
Re: PM6 View Thread problem (minor)
Riva Freifeld (ri...@attglobal.net) on 2008-12-21 3:48 PM said: I upgraded to PM6 with no problem, and everything works great, except for 1 little thing: When I try to view messages in Thread mode, in certain cases but not all, PM shows me every single message that contains one of the same words as the selected message in the subject heading, i.e. not just the thread for the message I selected. For example, when I wanted to see the thread for a message titled Thanks!, it showed me every message in the database with the word thanks in the subject line. I thought this might have something to do with the search index, but I had updated the search index shortly before I tried this. I'm also confused about how this feature is supposed to work. For me, it's acting as follows: - I select a message with title foo bar - I choose 'View Thread' - a new window appears showing messages with foo and bar in their subject. Even if not part of the same thread at all. It also misses some that are part of the thread. I hope that's not what it's supposed to do. Behaviour like Mail.app would be better (and could be improved upon). Anyone else try this? -- Sean McBride, B. Eng cwat...@cam.org Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Error: SYS/PERM Could not read message file
Hi all, Anyone ever seen this error message: [SYS/PERM] Could not read message file Ever since our mail server had a power failure, I get this message checking mail. If I use Mail.app I can still get mail. But with PM 6 (and 5) I get this error. It seems to be getting stuck on one message and refusing to continue. Any thoughts? Thanks, Sean
Re: HTML display in 6.0b3
Ben Kennedy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-12-01 7:43 PM said: I still don't understand why it is insurmountable to render this in the same way as for plaintext messages. Surely it is a separate view being drawn in that case anyway? What is it about the HTML view that precludes drawing the same header at its top? I suspect it has to do with the shiny new WebKit being use to render the HTML, and the crusty old PowerPlant to do everything else. Sean
PowerMail 6 vapourware?
On 2008-04-15 MacWorld said in an article: anyone who buys PowerMail after March 31, 2008, will be able to upgrade to version 6 upon its release later this Spring http://www.macworld.com/article/132888/2008/04/powermail563.html Did they get the date wrong? Spring has passed. Summer has passed. And no word about a beta even What's up? I'd really love to see a 6.0! Sean
Re: PowerMail 5 Hiding Bug: Round 4
C. A. Niemiec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-1-28 10:19 AM said: So no sooner do I think it's over, when suddenly PowerMail refuses to hide, again. I saw this interesting discussion on Apple's Carbon list: http://lists.apple.com/archives/carbon-dev/2008/Aug/msg00148.html from an Apple engineer: I have occasionally seen failure-to-hide when the application took an unusually long time to launch -- it bounced in the Dock, and stopped because the Dock (or some other part of the system) gave up on expecting the app to finish launching. When it happened, quitting and relaunching the app always fixed it for me. If you're seeing the same thing I am, I doubt there's anything your app can do about it (unless the reason for very-long launch time is under the app's control).
Re: One other wish for PM6
George Henne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-9-1 8:09 PM said: Here's my biggie: Threaded emails. When I reply to a message, I want an easy way to see all the messages already in the thread. Other email programs do this - and it can't be tough to implement. Here here! For me, message threading and database 2 GB are the most desired. Jérôme, any time frame for at least a _feature list_ of PM6? Sean
Re: MobileMe and Push-eMail
PowerMail Engineering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 6/20/08 8:56 AM said: Sean McBride wrote: Well, I sorta agree. It's hard to compete with Apple since they make the OS too. But email is an essential feature and Mac OS should come with a mail client. But CTM is to blame too, they haven't been keeping PM up to date. It still doesn't even have sheets, a feature added in Mac OS X 10.0, 8 years ago. Keeping an application up to date with Mac OS is not trivial, you know. Agreed... (BTW, I also maintain a PowerPlant application at my day job...) So while I sympathise with your situation, it's still disturbing. Let's look at history: PowerMail 5.6 was released in December 2007, its new features were all search-related (no doubt code from FoxTrot). PowerMail 5.5 was released in October 2006, its main feature was Universal Binary support. PowerMail 5.4 and 5.3 did not exist. PowerMail 5.2 was released in spring 2005 and had some significant feature additions. To me, this looks like a product that's not advancing very fast at all Can you give us any info about the purported PowerMail 6? -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: HTML mail comparison PM vs AM
cheshirekat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-6-19 5:09 PM said: Isn't your HTML showing as an attachment in PowerMail? Did you look at his screenshots? There was an attachment. That's his point. I'll repeat his words: PowerMail shows me a totally blank message with a html attachment, with no provision for viewing the message. It's just blank. Lame. There's no globe icon to 'view as html'. The email had _two italicised words_ and for that PowerMail needs to launch a 3rd Party application to show the message. Lame. This happens to me all the time too. Sean
Re: MobileMe and Push-eMail
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-6-20 6:54 PM said: Well, Apple currently provides developers with a .Mac SDK, so they may expand it to cover these new features. Or not. We'll see. And if CTM knows, they're under NDA. But 3rd Party developers will always be behind Apple in this regard, since of course teams within Apple get to use each other's code before any of us. And judging by the mediocre integration with Address Book (SDK introduced in 10.2), I'm pessimistic. :( I feel Apple is to blame here. What was the problem if the answer is to kill applications on the Mac platform? Well, I sorta agree. It's hard to compete with Apple since they make the OS too. But email is an essential feature and Mac OS should come with a mail client. But CTM is to blame too, they haven't been keeping PM up to date. It still doesn't even have sheets, a feature added in Mac OS X 10.0, 8 years ago. -- Every rule has an exception; especially this one.
Re: MobileMe and Push-eMail
Steve Tarpin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-6-16 1:19 PM said: I've avoided Apple's Mail application, having been an avid PowerMail user for 10-years now (since May of 1999). In all honesty, the features of MobileMe and the mail-push, server-side constant updating of multiple computers from The Cloud are awfully tempting. The Cloud is the direction of the future (GoogleApps, MobileMe etc), and eventually I will give in and make the move, unless... I guess this question is for Jerome and development team or anyone in the know, but is there the possibility that Apple will share the cloud so that applications OTHER than native apps will operate on MobileMe? Any buzz at all in that regard? What would it take for CTM to offer such a service, even though if (this) one were to be paying the $99 to Apple already, I would be hard-pressed to pay additional money for the same (albeit better) piece of their overall package. I think I'm reading the writing on the wall in reference to The Cloud, if small software developers don't adapt, they will eventually be left behind. This is the only reason I would abandon PowerMail, but for me it is a compelling reason, and will become more evident as time rolls forward. Well, Apple currently provides developers with a .Mac SDK, so they may expand it to cover these new features. Or not. We'll see. And if CTM knows, they're under NDA. But 3rd Party developers will always be behind Apple in this regard, since of course teams within Apple get to use each other's code before any of us. And judging by the mediocre integration with Address Book (SDK introduced in 10.2), I'm pessimistic. :( Sean
Re: Review of Power Mail
Cotty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-6-12 12:16 PM said: Well if it's any consolation, I am extremely happy with Powermail - been using it for years (Claris Emailer before that) and I find it is stable, does exactly what I need from an email application, without any distractions and fancy footwork, and the spam filter is second to none. What spam filter!? PowerMail doesn't have one. You mean SpamSieve is second to none (I agree), but SpamSieve can be used with pretty much any mail client, so it's no argument in favour of PowerMail. As for me, I've used PowerMail since the OS 9 days, but I think I'll be switching unless 6.0 is a major change. But for the moment, 6.0 looks like vapourware to me. CTM has told us nothing, no feature list, no betas, no date, nada. Why switch? Because PowerMail seems dead. There have been no significant features in ages. It's still a Carbon app, can't do more than 2 GB of mail, can't even spell check in the subject field, poor Unicode support, poor HTML support, etc. FoxTrot on the other hand is being updated often. The OS comes with a mail client, and there are open source mail clients. I don't blame CTM for letting PowerMail die. But it is a shame, it could be real nice if it had kept up. My 2¢. Sean
Re: Deleting select mails from server
MB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-3-29 7:21 AM said: Sean McBride said: Perhaps I'm missing something simple, but is it possible to delete select mails from the server? I gets lots of mail, and filter it into about 40 folders. For about 30 of those folders, I'd like to delete the mail from server as soon as I get them. How might I do that? I think it would be feasible to make a script that sets the property for online status to marked for deletion for messages being sorted to a specific folder. This could be done in the same filter that moves the message to that specific folder. Where can one set online status to marked for deletion? It's probably staring me in the face, but I don't see that anywhere in the 'Mail Filters' window. Cheers, Sean -- Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is terrorism of the rich - Sir Peter Ustinov
Re: PowerMail 5.6.3 not OS 10.3.9 compatible
Hi all, Just my 2¢: I would like to vote for 10.3 support to be dropped. It is a large burden to QA 3 different OSs. I'd much rather see PowerMail advance and adopt newer OS features. PowerMail still doesn't even shows sheets! A feature added in 10.0, a full 7 years ago! Of all the apps I use, PM is most OS9-ish. Sean Winston Weinmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2008-3-27 6:15 PM said: Does CTM plan a fix? I am mostly on 10.4 or 10.5, but it is possible in an emergency I might need to use a 10.3.9 Mac. I am still at PM 5.5.3. Should I not upgrade? Thanks. - Winston PowerMail Engineering wrote: PowerMail 5.6.3 was supposed to be 10.3.9 compatible, but in fact it seems not: the reported crash seems systematic on 10.3.9. The transition from XCode 2.4 to 3.0, which should have been transparent, brought us multiple crashes :-( Jérôme - CTM Engineering - When Google Desktop was released I immediately downloaded it. I was hoping to find something better than FoxTrot. What I found was that it didn't find many files that FoxTrot does find, and that the indexing process was uncontrollable, and it brought my Dual-Core MacBook Pro to its knees. The computer was almost unusable while it was being indexed. I understand that they have brought out a new version, but I have deleted it from my disk (and have turned off Spotlight indexing in the FoxTrot preference panel). I don't often need an indexed search of my disk, but when I do, FoxTrot is hands down the best. Alan Harper, FoxTrot Personal Search user Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch - -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. - Mark Twain
Re: Deleting select mails from server
Barbara Needham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 3/19/08 10:13 PM said: Perhaps I'm missing something simple, but is it possible to delete select mails from the server? I gets lots of mail, and filter it into about 40 folders. For about 30 of those folders, I'd like to delete the mail from server as soon as I get them. How might I do that? Setup/Mail Accounts/Receiving you can set to delete at any [almost] number of days in addition to deleting when deleting locally [such as for spam]. Barbara, Thanks for your reply, but that doesn't really fit my needs. I use POP not IMAP (ISP doesn't provide IMAP) and so all my filtering and sorting is done in PowerMail. Occasionally I use webmail and/or pine to check my mail remotely. Generally when I do so, it's to find a personal message, not a list message. So it would be great if there was a way to delete from the server all messages that go into a folder other than my inbox. Cheers, Sean -- Every rule has an exception; especially this one.
Deleting select mails from server
Hi all, Perhaps I'm missing something simple, but is it possible to delete select mails from the server? I gets lots of mail, and filter it into about 40 folders. For about 30 of those folders, I'd like to delete the mail from server as soon as I get them. How might I do that? Thanks, Sean -- do not fear death, but rather the unlived life
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 5.6.2 universal released
CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 12/02/08 13:45 said: + Successful porting to XCode 3.0 What were you using previously? Out of curiosity... Sean
Re: Email Freezes PowerMail
PowerMail Engineering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 04/02/08 13:01 said: Occasionally PowerMail freezes when retrieving email and has to be forced quit. This can occur when a message is received with an attached file whose name contains a null character. It will be fixed in version 5.6.2, currently in internal test. Please hurry. We are getting tonnes of these things. People at work have already switched to Mail.app permanently. Sean
Re: Email Freezes PowerMail
Tom Dillon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 01/02/08 13:09 said: Occasionally PowerMail freezes when retrieving email and has to be forced quit. Me too! :) Actually, my coworker had this exact problem today. Those spammers seem to have started something new today. :( We need a 5.6.2 soon, these messages may come in every day! Sean
Re: The PowerMail 5 Hiding Bug
C. A. Niemiec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 27/01/08 05:34 said: Ladies and Gentlemen: the PowerMail 5 Hiding Bug: Nice write up! You should definitely go here: http://developer.apple.com/bugreporter/ and file a bug with Apple. BTW: iTunes is refusing to hide for me right at this very moment. I note that both PowerMail and iTunes are Carbon apps Sean
Re: The PowerMail 5 Hiding Bug
C. A. Niemiec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 27/01/08 19:02 said: BTW: iTunes is refusing to hide for me right at this very moment. I note that both PowerMail and iTunes are Carbon apps NOooo... :O !!! Does the window grey out and menubar become inactive? Or maybe less shadow is the Leopard inactive look... Or will Apple care about a Tiger problem now that Leopard is out? Hrm... I'm seeing this problem in 10.5.1. Sean
Re: Bug report PM addressbook and apostrophes (copy)
Michael J. Hußmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 13/11/07 18:58 said: When using a name containing an apostrophe in the name part ( I have yet to see such an email address) And you will never see one, because accented letters (and all other characters outside the ASCII character set, plus some ASCII characters) are not allowed in mail addresses. See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_E-mail Sean
Re: OS 10.5 compatibility
Ira Lansing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 24/10/07 17:54 said: Does anyone have a sense of PowerMail's compatibility with the soon-to- be-released OS 10.5? I've been using it for months, and all seems well. Sean -- Every rule has an exception; especially this one.
Re: Slow Address Book
Marlyse Comte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 17.10.2007 13:43 Uhr said: I do understand the issue with the Recent Mail window. The contents of the Recent Mail window change if you quit PM and relaunch it. Mail is no longer recent at relaunch.
Re: Cannot open PowerMail after backing up....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-09-17 23:57 said: PM 5.2.2 has worked perfectly day after day for years! Today I decided to back *SNIP* OS X 10.4.10, PowerMac G4, PM 5.2.2. I've used PM, licensed, for about 8-10 years. First, I would update to the latest, 5.5.3. -- Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet - Albert Einstein
Re: PowerMail and IMAP
Lane Roathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-05-08 00:33 said: I've never figured out the attraction of IMAP, maybe just because I'm focused on speed so much. Using both in several programs and via webmail I continue to prefer POP3 from both a user and server perspective. (Although anymore I have to run IMAP for webmail). See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imap#Advantages_over_POP3 For most, the biggest thing is being able to keep your mail at work, home, and laptop all in sync. If PM ever goes to the dark side and becomes HTML compliant, I'll switch to another program - if I want to send 4MB word docs I'll do so knowingly, not accidently via my email program. I also like the fact that I can simply flag all HTML email as spam and narrow down my emails to (nearly) only those I want (that's after filtering over 90% of the spam at the server, leaving only a few hundred a day arriving for PM to filter). For me anyway, I also don't want to compose html mail, but I would like to be able to read it properly. Often times I get html mails where the message in empty and there is a .html attachment. That's pretty lame. Sean -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. - Mark Twain
Re: PowerMail and IMAP
Lane Roathe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-05-09 16:36 said: - 2GB DB size limit; be nice to get at least 4GB, that would hold me for a few more years until we can get the limit removed all together. Alas, CTM has said that they won't be upping this limit. :( I've managed to survive at 1.8 or so, compacting every few months, and deleting some messages, but it's a real shame. -- Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
Re: PowerMail and IMAP
Barbara Needham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-05-09 12:31 said: For most, the biggest thing is being able to keep your mail at work, home, and laptop all in sync. I manage to do this with pop mail, by not deleting from server. However, this works only for INCOMING. But it doesn't really _work_. Can you sync the 'read' status, the 'replied to' status, the folder the message is in, etc.? -- do not fear death, but rather the unlived life
Re: PowerMail and IMAP
Matthias Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-05-07 06:55 said: Am/On Mon, 7 May 2007 11:13:24 +0200 schrieb/wrote CTM info: Yes, there are indeed limitations. We position PowerMail as a full-blown POP3 e-mail client with high speed indexing, but with lightweight IMAP support i.e. for occasional use. The limitations you see are those of our design goals. with highspeed internet connections IMAP becomes more and more popular. So I think it would be nice, if these limitations within the IMAP- implementation of PM would be removed in the near future. I agree. IMAP is much beter than POP, and I'd like to switch, but for now PowerMail is holding me back. Sean -- Every rule has an exception; especially this one.
Sending email to one particular address always fails
Hi all, I'm having a very weird problem. I create a new email, enter some subject and body, and type in the email address. Then I press 'send'. Everything appears to work (stamp sound, no error message, nothing logged in Console.app) but when I look in my Out Tray, the message's status is Failed. Why might that be? It only seems to happen with this one email address. Thanks, Sean -- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. - Mark Twain
Re: Powermail Failure...Please Help
Robert Morrison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-03-24 20:09 said: Please help...I'm panicked at best. I appear to have lost several days work as well as all my email since I changed over. Should I do a low level rebuild? I have no idea what happened. You could try, it might help. You might also try PowerMail Salvage (google it). Also, backup your PowerMail Files folder before going any further. -- When the winds of change are blowing, some people are building shelters and others are building windmills - Chinese proverb
Re: Default mail client
Angelica Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-02-14 14:19 said: I have been using PM for about 3 weeks and the paid version for about a week. I have yet to discover the way to make PM my default mail client. Every time I click on an email address, my computer opens Mail. PM 5.2.3 - Intel iMac - OS 10.4.8 Also, the current version is 5.5.3. -- When the winds of change are blowing, some people are building shelters and others are building windmills - Chinese proverb
Re: curly quotes become 1, 2, 3
Alan Harper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-02-08 13:24 said: While we are on the subject of Microsoft engineers, this is a good article on those stupid winmail.dat files: http://www.gpc.edu/%7Ejbenson/resource/winmail.htm IMNSHO, PowerMail should most definitely add a feature to deal with this nuisance. (Yes, I could fix it with an AppleScript, but CTM can fix it better. :)) -- Good artists borrow from the work of others, great artists steal - Picasso
Re: Multiple databases (yet again)
computer artwork by subhash ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-01-30 13:50 said: the 2 gig limit I do not understand you people having problems with this limitation. What is so important to keep 2 GB of it? And I do not understand why people think 2 GB is such a huge number. This isn't the 1980s. 2 GB is small. An 80$ iPod has 1 GB. Programming difficulties aside, I see no reason for PowerMail to force this arbitrary limit. (I am a programmer, and the difficulties are non- trivial, but still). Sean -- Model T Ford, 1908, 25 miles per gallon. Today's Ford Expedition: 15.5 mpg.
Re: How to set up Growl?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2007-01-11 13:00 said: I just installed Growl and the PM script. I made some corrections to the script, as found in some places on the internet (among other, this list archives ...). The result is : I can see in Console that Growl receives the commands from PM (registering, message), but I never see a single bubble or whatever appear on the screen ... Maybe it's a Growl problem, I tried many things, but didn't found the way. Any advice ? I had a hell of a time too, I forget how I got it working. Did you check this list's archives, the answer should be there. Sean -- attack begets defence, whereas courtesy begets respect
Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed
CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-29 13:46 said: Also, upon launching, 5.5.2b3 will prompt you to choose which folder you want to use; It did not. It just used the usual folder. Leopard compatibility - PowerMail is now compatible with developer builds of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard on Intel Macs, and uses the latest version of SSL contained in the OS Should it work on PPC too? - When a connexion error occured, PowerMail was sometimes creating an empty, partial message Having seen that bug, I'll watch for it! Sean -- Whoever controls the past, controls the future - George Orwell
Re: [powermail-discuss] PowerMail 5.2.2b3 private testing seed
T.L. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-29 23:15 said: Leopard compatibility - PowerMail is now compatible with developer builds of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard on Intel Macs, and uses the latest version of SSL contained in the OS Should it work on PPC too? Certainly should. I ask because on my G5 on the latest 10.5 seed PM 5.5.1 would not launch. I take it you have had success? Sean -- Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is terrorism of the rich - Sir Peter Ustinov
Re: broken mails not retrievable
Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-07 15:20 said: And it's still going on (which is to be expected I guess as nothing has changed). But this is getting serious. Notwithstanding that the fact that primary issue is that my ISP can't sustain its connection in the evenings, Powermail's inability to deal properly with a prematurely broken connection is not acceptable. PM has many quirks in its interface that I don't like but can live with because it does its core job in a solid fashion. But this issue means that I am losing email -- something that an email application should never permit. I just received a message from a client that I had been waiting for and it only half came through (because of the severed connection). The connection is re-established, but PM will not retrieve it, so it is lost. Absolutely unacceptable and needs to be fixed as a priority. I have to agree. Also, this never happened before 5.5 (at least to me, and I recall no complaints earlier). Did the database format change with 5.5? I don't remember... I'm thinking about downgrading to the previous version, even if it means using Rosetta. -- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. - Goethe
Re: broken mails not retrievable
Rick Lecoat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-04 03:22 said: For some reason, I've been getting regular internet connection outages at around the same time every night -- nothing to do with Powermail of course, but it does have a side effect. Often the connection goes down during a mail fetch, and I find that I am left with a half-downloaded, broken-icon message. The problem is that if (once service is restored) I use either of PM's options for dealing with this message -- 'Retrieve completely now' or 'Retrieve completely at next connection' -- the message is NOT retrieved but it's Status icon changes to indicate that it is no longer on the server. So it's lost, and I have no way to know whether it was just spam or a request for me to do a billion dollars worth of design work for the Apple. (I know, I know.) I reported the exact same problem to this list on Oct 24. I'm glad someone else is having the problem. :) It's happened both at home on my Mac Pro and at work on my G5. Two entirely different network setups/ servers/etc. FWIW, my settings are for PM to leave messages on the server for 1 day after download, just in case (which was supposed to avoid this problem). It doesn't help though. I guess I should update to the full finished version of 5.5 (to be honest, until I checked I thought I was using the last previous non-beta version; I'd forgotten that I'd upped to the 5.5 beta2 a while back). I'm using the final 5.5. -- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Gandhi
Re: Crash report 5.5
Simon Troup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-02 03:40 said: Hey CTM, how about supporting Smart Crash Reports? Takes 5 seconds to add to your application. Seriously. Does that require running Application Enhancer? No. You merely add 2 keys to your application's plist. It's entirely benign. That thing utterly borked my system, and it really messes with PowerMail, well, stopped PowerMail hiding for one thing but a lot of things improved when I uninstalled it. It doesn't cause me any problems. -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Crash report 5.5
Bruce Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-11-01 19:32 said: Had my first crash since using PM 5.5, I've dropped the crash log here: http://www.brucebarrett.com/bugs/pmcrash_nov01_2006.txt I was, I believe, trying to do a reply all. (Though as I recall I may have been doing something else at about the same time.) Hey CTM, how about supporting Smart Crash Reports? Takes 5 seconds to add to your application. Seriously. http://smartcrashreports.com/ Sean -- do not fear death, but rather the unlived life
Re: 5.5 refuses to 'retrieve completely' a partial message
CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-10-25 10:12 said: Try displaying the Online Status column in the View Options... dialog for the In Tray. Does this display that the message you want to download is still on the server ? If not for whatever reason, you would indeed be stuck with a broken envelope. It happened again today (message with 1/2 broken envelope icon). So I turned on the 'online status' and it showed that the message _is_ on the server. So then I do 'retrieve now', but nothing happens. And now it shows that the message is NOT on the server. BTW, this happened at work, on a different machine, different ISP, different POP/SMTP servers. This has never happened before, and now has happened on 2 machines. -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
Re: 5.5 refuses to 'retrieve completely' a partial message
CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-10-25 10:12 said: Try displaying the Online Status column in the View Options... dialog for the In Tray. Does this display that the message you want to download is still on the server ? If not for whatever reason, you would indeed be stuck with a broken envelope. It's not on the server, which I guess explains that. Maybe 'Retrieve completely' should be disabled then, since it can't possibly work. Still, I wonder why it is not on the server. PM doesn't delete from server until 7 days old. Sean -- we are now sucking almost 1000 barrels of oil from the ground every second
5.5 refuses to 'retrieve completely' a partial message
Hi all, Every once in a while, over the years, I end up with a mail that has the 1/2 ripped mail icon. That is, the message was not fully retrieved for some reason. But I've always been able to do a 'retrieve completely' or 'retrieve completely at next connection' and the message would download. However it doesn't seem to work in 5.5! Either command does nothing. Nothing appears in Console.app. How do I get this message?! Thanks, Sean -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. - Gandhi
Re: recipe for address synching, please [SHORT/LONG!]
Alan Harper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-10-11 19:50 said: SHORT QUESTION: Has anyone figured out a way to keep the PowerMail address book and Apple's AddressBook synchronized reliably? Short Answer: no. -- But if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence - Pop Will Eat Itself
2nd item in list stuck as highlighted
Hi all, Well I am using 5.5b2 and am experiencing my first problem: If I switch from whatever mailbox I'm in to a different one, the 2nd email in the list becomes highlighted. It doesn't matter what column I'm sorted by. In fact, if I resort, the 2nd item stays selected (that is, not the same email, just whichever is 2nd in the list). If I click a different email, that one becomes highlighted too, but the 2nd in the list stays highlighted also. It's sticky. I can only get it unhighlighted by selecting it then unselecting it. Quitting and relaunching it solves the problem. Anyone else ever see this? BTW, nice to see that this list now has a 'list-post' header! -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: Windows compatible Zipping (was Re: [ANN] PowerMail Universal 5.5b2 now available)
Michael Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-09-21 10:03 said: get a lot of StuffIt files from people, so I'm happy with Allume (formerly Aladdin) for a drag-drop ZIP, Stuff, Tar utility... You mean Smith Micro Software, Inc., formerly Allume :) And they just release Stuffit 11 today. Sean -- Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is terrorism of the rich - Sir Peter Ustinov
Re: [ANN] PowerMail Universal 5.5b2 now available
CTM info ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-09-17 17:42 said: - PowerMail is now a Universal application running natively on Intel and PowerPC Macs, working on Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4. This project turned out to be a 5-month major undertaking and underscores our commitment to PowerMail's future. As a developer myself, I'm curious why it was such a major undertaking... Was it the database side of things? - As a token of appreciation to our customers, we have decided to make this upgrade free of charge to current PowerMail 5 users. I should think. :) After all, it seems to give us PPC customers very little. - Messages retrieval is now disable when the database size approaches the 2 GB limit. Great! Though I admit I'm disappointed the limit is still there at all. - Stuffit archive compression/decompression is disabled No biggie. :) Zip compression would be better these days. -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: [ANN] PowerMail Universal 5.5b2 now available
A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-09-18 21:29 said: As a developer myself, I'm curious why it was such a major undertaking... Was it the database side of things? Have you done any CodeWarrior XCode porting? :-) Lots. Vice versa even. It was painful back in the early days, but the newer Xcodes actually work pretty well. I'd be somewhat surprised if a CW-Xcode switch of a relatively small app like PM took so many months. We can all speculate, but only CTM knows. Sean -- Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is terrorism of the rich - Sir Peter Ustinov
Re: Powermail archive now online
Matthias Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-08-31 05:31 said: The list admin at ctmdev has to do that. But I guess he's reading the list ;-) If he is, can you please add the 'List-Post' header too. Especially as PM has a feature to show that address in the little arrow popup thingie at the bottom of list messages. -- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. - Goethe
Re: dock menu always says 'force quit'
Rene Merz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-08-18 08:59 said: No, no Alt key. Just a simple ctrl-click (actually a right-click with my 2-button mouse). As an idiot-test I also tried the normal-click-and-hold which also calls the contextual menu for the dock item, and that also shows Force Quit. I think that it could have to do with the programing of the buttons of your mouse. Is PowerMail the only app where it's always Force Quit? If so, that rules out your mouse. -- those who live by the sword die by the sword
Beta testers needed: iPhoto Mailer Patcher 4.1
Hi all, I have helped Simon Jacquier update his iPhoto Mailer Patcher application. For those that don't know, it allows PowerMail (and other apps) to be used by iPhoto for emailing pictures. This version now supports iPhoto 6.0.4 (it was previously stuck at 4.0.x). Would any of you care to test it? It's available here, http://homepage.mac.com/jacksim/software/iphoto_mailer_patcher_4.1.dmg Thanks! -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: Universal Binary
Michael Tsai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-08-15 15:11 said: On Aug 15, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Eric Bickford wrote: PowerMail on my MacBook Pro crashes several times each day for me as well when retreiving email. However, I now think it may be SpamSieve 2.4.4 that is actually crashing which causes PowerMail 5.2.3 to then crash. I doubt that. No one's reported it, and probably the worst that would happen to PowerMail if SpamSieve crashed is that it wouldn't get the Agreed. Have you ever considered adding support for Smart Crash Reports? http://smartcrashreports.com/ It's easy. -- be conservative in what you emit and liberal in what you accept - Postel's Law
Re: Panics, Intel and PowerMail?
Derry Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-07-10 10:52 said: I've had my MacBook Pro a couple of weeks and PowerMail crashes maybe 2-3 times a day (Been running for 9 hours solid today so far though!) PowerMail crashes (not kernel panics) on my PPC roughly 2 times a week. It usually happens when PM is in the background, as it checks every 2 minutes for new mail. It sounds like other people are having this problem too. And I believe this problem has been around a long time. Looking in my ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/PowerMail.crash.log file I see the following, notice the dates!: Date/Time: 2003-04-11 18:06:45 -0400 OS Version: 10.2.4 (Build 6I32) Command:PowerMail PID:473 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x3d333835 (snip) Thread 6 Crashed: #0 0x9022892c in Dequeue #1 0x004f73f8 in LThread::ThreadAsynchronousResume(LThread *) #2 0x004f7014 in LThread::ThreadTimerProc(TMTask *) #3 0x9023c224 in TimerThread #4 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body and most recently: Date/Time: 2006-06-17 12:23:45.865 -0400 OS Version: 10.4.6 (Build 8I127) (snip) Thread 14 Crashed: 0 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bb023c Dequeue + 160 1 com.ctmdev.PowerMail0x0026d084 LThread::ThreadAsynchronousResume(LThread*) + 128 2 com.ctmdev.PowerMail0x0026cc74 LThread::ThreadTimerProc (TMTask*) + 44 3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bfc670 TimerThread + 288 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002ba68 _pthread_body + 96 It seems to always be the Dequeue() function that crashes. Is this what other people see? Thanks, -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
PowerMail lost all my messages, recovery help requested
Hi all, Well I checked my mail today and about half way through it reported an error. I pressed OK and the alert came back. I dismissed literally dozens of these messages but they wouldn't stop. So I force quit PM. I then relaunched and held option and did a rebuild but when it was done I ended up with 0 messages!!! All my folders were still there but there were no messages in any of them. Ack! I check that 'view only unread' was not chosen. In my PowerMail Files folder there is a Message Database.old file which is very close to 2 GB (2 147 482 894 bytes-- very close). If I remove the ..old extension and launch PM it rebuilds indexes but then gives the error: Class=DB ; what = 4; when = 7; err = 37 I believe this was the original error I saw also. If I try a low level rebuild it gives the error: Class=DB ; what = 100; when = 100; err = 493 These message so are vague, its hard to troubleshoot! I'm guessing it's complaining about the 2 GB limit. I guess I've been playing with fire being so close to 2 GB for so long, but I always hope that tomorrow there will be a new PM without that limitation. (After all, the 64-bit File Manager APIs were introduced in Mac OS 9, 7 years ago!!! Hello CTM!) I have a backup of course, but its a few weeks old. Any suggestion on how I can get my messages back? Thanks! Sean (via good ol' pine :) )
Re: Crash report
Dave Nathanson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2006-02-03 14:13 said: I wasn't even using Powermail. It was in the background, and probably was checking mail. I was using FireFox to watch a web movie at millerauditions.com. The movie suddenly paused, got stuck for 2 or 3 seconds, then recovered. A moment later I got news that PowerMail had crashed. This happens to me all the time. PM crashes like this at least once a week. I run it 24/7. over 600 messages retrieved, and that took 3 tries because Powermail had a problem getting 3 of them, which required me to push the little X button to stop the retrieval. Then check mail again to continue. It gets stuck like for me too... several times a week. However, I have not noticed any correlation between these two problems. -- How much harm does a company have to do before we question its right to exist? — Paul Hawken
Re: Large Database
Jim Pistrang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-12-26 16:44 said: Just curious, what is the total number of emails in your database? I Is there an easy way to tell? I have so many folders looking at each and adding them would be a pain. :) -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. - Gandhi
AddressBook sync problems
Hi, I have a 'John Doe' in the addressbook. He had 2 email addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have since removed [EMAIL PROTECTED] and added [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I create a new email message in PM, and start typing his name, i only see the two old addresses. How do I get PM to stay up to date? In the prefs, in Synchronisation, I have 'update PM from AB' set to 'on PM startup' and in advanced I have everything on. Shouldn't that work? Thanks! -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: Opinion on searches and the trash
Mikael Byström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-10-19 01:16 said: What do you guys think? Should the default be to not include trashed messages unless a radio button: include trash was checked? Agreed. And the spam folder too! -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Re: FINALLY: PM ARCHIVES!
A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-10-07 23:58 said: Sean McBride / 2005/10/06 / 06:52 PM wrote: I'm afraid I can't agree... the list is public, isn't it? And public means, well, public. :) What is the definition of public here? If the list do not allow non registered member to post, how come it is public? If I knew the list archive is open to public, and whatever I post here can be access from anyone outside of this list members then I have a problem. To become a list member, you need only a valid email address. That pretty much makes it public IMHO. Well, that's a google bug then, not an argument against having a list archive. I don't know why you eliminated the portion of my original post that you quoted, where I said I also admin a user group which archive is only available to members, and that's what I want. Any reason you didn't respond to that portion? I guess simply because I haven't followed this thread closely; my apologies, I was not trying to evasive or anything. I'm not opposed to list archives being members-only, nor am I opposed to them being public. I don't even care if email addresses are censored or not, though I agree it's probably better to censor them. Sean
Re: FINALLY: PM ARCHIVES!
A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-10-05 10:35 said: * Is there any reason NOT to publicly archive this discussion list? I do not wish my name is googled through this list, not to mention you can google my email address through this list (and one other) right now. I don't know about others, but here is my problem. I'm afraid I can't agree... the list is public, isn't it? And public means, well, public. :) Up until very recent, googling by my full name used to hit reviews and discography from various sites, but now google is hitting archived listserv first, and they are a lot of them :-( Well, that's a google bug then, not an argument against having a list archive. -- attack begets defence, whereas courtesy begets respect
Re: PM crashes immediatly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-09-05 16:18 said: Link (dyld) error: dyld: /Applications/PowerMail/PowerMail.app/Contents/MacOS/PowerMail Undefined symbols: AddressBook undefined reference to _kSKMinTermLength expected to be defined in CoreServices What OS? 10.2? -- Every rule has an exception; especially this one.
Re: Growl and PowerMail
Pat O'Halloran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-08-21 04:21 said: I commented out the original line in the helperapp routine and added those Jerome suggested. I'll email you a copy of the script. Thanks to everyone for your help in this matter. Might I sugest you also send your corrected script (maybe even add more instructions in the comments on top about resaving it) and send it to the growl people so the next release of growl has a working script. And Jérôme, how about native support in PowerMail for growl? I added support to my app, and it's very easy. -- Sean McBride, B. Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mac Software Designer Montréal, Québec, Canada
Growl and PowerMail
Hi! Has anyone got the Growl (www.growl.info) AppleScript working with PowerMail? As I posted a while ago, applescripts do not appear in the script menu for me... :( but i just thought maybe its just the growl script that is messed up. Anyone tried? thanks! -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. - Gandhi
Re: My problems with PM
A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-08-10 22:34 said: Is there any way to stop this behavior? - When list pane in 3 pane view is focused, if you hit letter 'a' by mistake, PM goes into spinning beachball to find a message which subject starts with letter 'a'. I really wish to stop this behavior. Me too! Just an example for the CTM guys, incase they do not see this behaviour: In a mailbox with 24130 messages, sorting by 'date', 'from', or 'subject' takes only about 1 second (great!) but pressing 'b' when sorted by subject and with no message selected takes 54 seconds to select the message!! CPU usage does _not_ go to 100%, btw. -- we are now sucking almost 1000 barrels of oil from the ground every second
Re: Basic UI requests
Tim Hodgson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-08-11 06:21 said: 2) i wish there was a key to select the first unread message. (Lets say I've just tabbed to the mailboxes pane, pressed up arrow several times, and landed on the PM list mailbox, then I press tab to get into the pane with the subjects. Then I want to start reading from the newest unread post. What to do? I have to page down several times, then use the mouse to select the message.) After tabbing to the Subject pane, pressing the 'up' arrow will select the last message in the list. It's not necessarily the first unread message (I'm presuming you meant first rather than newest?), but it's quicker than scrolling down. That's good to know, thanks. But in a mailbox with thousands of messages (mailing list) its not really faster. And yes, I did mean 'first'. :) Thanks, -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
Re: [ANN] PowerMail 5.2.1 available
Mikael Byström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-06-16 16:40 said: The file on CTMs site is pm5.dmg. I don't mind that updates are name thusly after the version: pm521.dmg and wish that CTM would follow that convention. What is this, DOS? :) I think they should name it PowerMail 5.2.1.dmg. It's not like you have to type the name! :) They probably keep pm5.dmg incase other sites link to it... but they could always use symlinks to point pm5.dmg to the newest version. -- But if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence - Pop Will Eat Itself
Re: How to write to many people at once with comma separated list?
David Gallanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-05-02 01:26 said: Just select the list, then drag it to the recipients window of an open email window. Well, look at that! Thanks a lot! Strange that dragging works and pasting does not! -- How much harm does a company have to do before we question its right to exist? -- Paul Hawken
How to write to many people at once with comma separated list?
Hi, If you put many people in the 'destination' field, then select them all, then 'copy' you get this: John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jane doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is, you get a comma separated list. But how can I take a list like that, and paste it into PM so I can mail all those people? Thanks! -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Tiger and eMail
Christian Meenaghan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-04-29 12:20 said: Its taking 30 seconds to download a 5k piece of mail, and connections are timing out to delays. Well, if you're a fairly technical user, you might install CHUD: http://developer.apple.com/tools/performance/ and play with the application Shark, it can be used to identify where why things run slowly, you can even save its report and send it to a developer. -- Have you ever been out some place, recognizing everybody's face, until you realized that there was no one there you knew? - The Offspring
