Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Why don't you sell t-shirts like me, I'm making about 500 bucks a month extra after about 4 months of a lot of work. I hope to eventually get it up to cover all my expenses and use my consulting business as gravy. It's a pretty no-brainer, you just need to add a whole lot of designs. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 01:31, Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! I would kill to be able to work only 45 hours a week rather than 60 or so. What are they (rich people) going to do, make us work the same number of hours a week as our ages, in the hope that it kills us? I still have a BW tv. What is bothering me is not having enough to comply with regulations in my profession without subsidizing it by working another job and then not even having enough left to pay my mortgage on my one room home. If I let my profession lapse then the student loan idiots will say I'm not trying. What to do? Regards, Pete growing up my father worked 45 hours a week at a blue-collar job. We had a rotary phone. We had a BW TV until about 1973, we never had new cars, we never ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Mark Foley Gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bush agreed to waive inspections in North Korea
The latest I heard is that the Administration doesn't think it was a nuclear explosion. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 01:40, Bill Arnold wrote: So how does not waiving verification of their potential weapons program enhance US security? It doesn't. Neocon passions (and stupidity) begin and end with the ME. Hi Bill! There is potential for stupidity in Asia as well. If they send more money, or fail to blow those reactors to kingdom come . . . Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Who ever said Liberals were nicer than Conservatives?
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[OT] Robert Fisk
A very well thought out and well written article by Robert Fisk, published by the Independent, which we only get to see because the Internet exists, begins with: With chaos stretching from Afghanistan to the Mediterranean, we have never lived in a more dangerous time. Over the next 15 pages and 7,000 words, our man in the Middle East looks back over a lifetime of covering war and death, and lays out a bleak future for all of us - one that even those living in the comfort of the Home Counties cannot escape And ends with: It's always been my view that the people of this part of the Earth would like some of our democracy. They would like a few packets of human rights off our supermarket shelves. They want freedom. But they want another kind of freedom - freedom from us. And this we do not intend to give them. Which is why our Middle East presence is heading into further darkness. Which is why I sit on my balcony and wonder where the next explosion is going to be. For, be sure, it will happen. Bin Laden doesn't matter any more, alive or dead. Because, like nuclear scientists, he has invented the bomb. You can arrest all of the world's nuclear scientists but the bomb has been made. Bin Laden created al-Qa'ida amid the matchwood of the Middle East. It exists. His presence is no longer necessary. And all around these lands are a legion of young men preparing to strike again, at us, at our symbols, at our history. And yes, maybe I should end all my reports with the words: Watch out! http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1814843.ece Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Robert Fisk
I think that's what the people of DArfur want. They'd rather be starved and raped then to have the Yankee Imperialists invade their land. --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A very well thought out and well written article by Robert Fisk, published by the Independent, which we only get to see because the Internet exists, begins with: With chaos stretching from Afghanistan to the Mediterranean, we have never lived in a more dangerous time. Over the next 15 pages and 7,000 words, our man in the Middle East looks back over a lifetime of covering war and death, and lays out a bleak future for all of us - one that even those living in the comfort of the Home Counties cannot escape And ends with: It's always been my view that the people of this part of the Earth would like some of our democracy. They would like a few packets of human rights off our supermarket shelves. They want freedom. But they want another kind of freedom - freedom from us. And this we do not intend to give them. Which is why our Middle East presence is heading into further darkness. Which is why I sit on my balcony and wonder where the next explosion is going to be. For, be sure, it will happen. Bin Laden doesn't matter any more, alive or dead. Because, like nuclear scientists, he has invented the bomb. You can arrest all of the world's nuclear scientists but the bomb has been made. Bin Laden created al-Qa'ida amid the matchwood of the Middle East. It exists. His presence is no longer necessary. And all around these lands are a legion of young men preparing to strike again, at us, at our symbols, at our history. And yes, maybe I should end all my reports with the words: Watch out! http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1814843.ece Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Robert Fisk
I think that's what the people of DArfur want. They'd rather be starved and raped then to have the Yankee Imperialists invade their land. In a way it's simple, in a way it's not. We know that we can spin this and any other situation a thousand ways from Sunday, but when everything is said and done, in the end, it's all about mankind's struggle between good and evil, or as Jung also described it in a way we can better understand, between builders and destroyers. So, no, we can't destroy their world in order to save them, but we can build our way out of that and other problems. Think! Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Robert Fisk
I think in retrospect we should have let Saddam continue to kill the Shia because grateful is not in their vocabulary. --- Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that's what the people of DArfur want. They'd rather be starved and raped then to have the Yankee Imperialists invade their land. In a way it's simple, in a way it's not. We know that we can spin this and any other situation a thousand ways from Sunday, but when everything is said and done, in the end, it's all about mankind's struggle between good and evil, or as Jung also described it in a way we can better understand, between builders and destroyers. So, no, we can't destroy their world in order to save them, but we can build our way out of that and other problems. Think! Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Robert Fisk
I think in retrospect we should have let Saddam continue to kill the Shia because grateful is not in their vocabulary. That's reciting, not thinking. Try imagining how building a better world - and then spreading word of that world through that region - would have influenced the behavior of people who live there. Now imagine the opposite, going into that region with guns blazing, shooting down anyone who looks us wrong, believes in things we don't understand, or just gets in the way. Bill ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:03, Michael Madigan wrote: Why don't you sell t-shirts like me, Hi Michael! I haven't the front money, nor the energy to manage the inventory. I don't know how much a box of t-shirts weighs, but I know it is too heavy. I'm 61 and I had a bad accident recently. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bush agreed to waive inspections in North Korea
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:07, Michael Madigan wrote: The latest I heard is that the Administration doesn't think it was a nuclear explosion. Hi Michael! Whatever it was, it is a good excuse for all their reactors, shipping ports, rail yards and government buildings to go up in smoke. Just can't have all that power in the hands of a madman. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Robert Fisk
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:31, Bill Arnold wrote: Hi Bill! In other words, unlimited plastic with the monthly bill going to Uncle Sam. About what to expect from sandn*ggers. Regards, Pet snip With chaos stretching from Afghanistan to the Mediterranean, we have never lived in a more dangerous time. Over the next 15 pages and 7,000 words, our man in the Middle East looks back over a lifetime of covering war and death, and lays out a bleak future for all of us - one that even those living in the comfort of the Home Counties cannot escape And ends with: It's always been my view that the people of this part of the Earth would like some of our democracy. They would like a few packets of human rights off our supermarket shelves. They want freedom. But they want another kind of freedom - freedom from us ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Robert Fisk
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 03:09, Bill Arnold wrote: I think in retrospect we should have let Saddam continue to kill the Shia because grateful is not in their vocabulary. That's reciting, not thinking. Try imagining how building a better world - and then spreading word of that world through that region Hi Bill! We leave them alone. They hold out their hands chanting Death to America. We kill their bad guys and rebuild their infrastructure. They destroy as fast as we build chanting Death to America. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: So much for SOUNDEX()
Ken, I've posted the Soundex coding source on my website: www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/Soundex.zip Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh Sent: 09 October 2006 20:30 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: So much for SOUNDEX() On Oct 9, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Dave Crozier wrote: I've got a good one that I'll post up tomorrow thanks! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:33, Chet Gardiner wrote: If you have no religion at all then data security and integrity are the least of your worries. ??? Hi Chet! If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. Regards, Pete = On 10/9/06, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = How do you protect yourself when everything is in one place? = = 3 Hail Mary's ? Sheesh, we went through this last week. HAIL MARYS. But what if you're not Christian? What then?Hi Hal! Say whatever prayer that your religion says. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: So much for SOUNDEX()
Ken, I've posted the Soundex coding source on my website: www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/Soundex.zip Dave, just to say, there is another angle to this: matching input to a list of known values and standardizing on the agreed-upon values. This is how address corrections are handled with the USPS, and the approach would make sense in other applications as well. Bill Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
Imagine - John Lennon Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one John Lennon has rejoined the one-ness that is the only reward. This has officially slipped [OT] Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:33, Chet Gardiner wrote: If you have no religion at all then data security and integrity are the least of your worries. ??? Hi Chet! If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. Regards, Pete = On 10/9/06, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = How do you protect yourself when everything is in one place? = = 3 Hail Mary's ? Sheesh, we went through this last week. HAIL MARYS. But what if you're not Christian? What then?Hi Hal! Say whatever prayer that your religion says. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] F# ???
And What was it an experiment for? Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Posted At: 09 October 2006 17:50 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] F# ??? Subject: RE: [NF] F# ??? Ken Levy spoke about it. It was an internal experiment. John -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Bush agreed to waive inspections in North Korea
If it wasn't a nuke explosion, now would be the perfect time to nuke them. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:07, Michael Madigan wrote: The latest I heard is that the Administration doesn't think it was a nuclear explosion. Hi Michael! Whatever it was, it is a good excuse for all their reactors, shipping ports, rail yards and government buildings to go up in smoke. Just can't have all that power in the hands of a madman. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Don't have to, they're print as you go. Costs you $7.00 a month for a premium website and free for a basic website. So if you have 7 bucks, you're in. They handle the shipping, printing, collection of money, returns, headaches, nonsense. You set the markup. For the profit in September, I'll receive a check on Nov 15th since they have a 30-day money back guarantee on the stuff. All you need is The Gimp, time, and clever ideas. It takes a few months to start seeing any money, including figuring out what sells, how to label your items, how to get into the search engines, how to upload to froogle and other things. www.cafepress.com --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:03, Michael Madigan wrote: Why don't you sell t-shirts like me, Hi Michael! I haven't the front money, nor the energy to manage the inventory. I don't know how much a box of t-shirts weighs, but I know it is too heavy. I'm 61 and I had a bad accident recently. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] was - SQL- Database Replication
And some quotes attributed to King Arthur in Camelot: Violence is not strength. compassion is not weakness. revenge is the most worthless of causes. Bill Imagine - John Lennon Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] F# ???
Alan Bourke said Looks interesting:... I guess it depends on your mindset - mine doesn't encompass the lambda calculus: Q. 2+2=5 A. don't know - it's unprovable. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So much for SOUNDEX()
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: Hey - - - Working on d-f'ing up the information in a poorly-designed database. Using SOUNDEX() for close comparisons. One it missed: Highway Federal Credit Union = H200 F364 C633 U550 Hiway Federal Credit Union = H000 F364 C633 U550 I woulda thunk but then again, it ignores vowels... any soundex() replacement out there You could also have a go at using Bob Calco's Levenshtein class for matching strings. Not had a go of using it yet but will do next time I have to do some de-duping. ftp://leafe.com/levenshtein.zip Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Securing Word data
Hi, I am preparing some documentation using ms Word and it occurs to me that it would be useful to protect some of the content (Author, copyright notice c.) - is there a way to do this in Word - either in document properties and/ or (preferably) the actual text ? thanks Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Securing Word data
Adding a password to the file? When you select save as, there should be a tools dropdown in the top right corner. Select security options. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Posted At: 10 October 2006 10:23 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Securing Word data Subject: [NF] Securing Word data Hi, I am preparing some documentation using ms Word and it occurs to me that it would be useful to protect some of the content (Author, copyright notice c.) - is there a way to do this in Word - either in document properties and/ or (preferably) the actual text ? thanks Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Securing Word data
Tristan suggested Adding a password to the file No that would protect the whole file - I need to allow most of the file to be modified whilst (s) protecting some bits Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Securing Word data
How about using a PDF then? You can have bits that the user can enter text in and other bits which are read only. Or does it have to be Word, then I can only suggest using some sort of macro. Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Posted At: 10 October 2006 10:50 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Securing Word data Subject: RE: [NF] Securing Word data Tristan suggested Adding a password to the file No that would protect the whole file - I need to allow most of the file to be modified whilst (s) protecting some bits Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# -- This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless otherwise agreed expressly in writing by Marine Software Limited, this communication and attachments are to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication you should destroy it without copying, disclosing or otherwise using its contents. Please notify the sender immediately of the error. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Boy Mike, You're so full of it. A bare minimum house here in harper texas goes for 750 per month. The average wage here is about 7.50 per hour so it takes two people just to afford the rent, not to count utilities and transportation and god forbid groceries if there is anything left. Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4726 Home (830) 864-4799 Fax http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line? A person in poverty today has cable tv, telephone, cellphone, car, clothes, etc. A person in American poverty is not the same as a person in North Korean poverty, or a person living in poverty in Beverly Hills. Most poverty is self-inflicted. Drug, alcohol or gambling addictions, having children they can't afford, buying items they don't need. That's not to say real poverty doesn't exist, but it isn't as much as we'd like to believe. --- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everybody! Forget families of three, dammit, the real households today are one or two. If two, one of them is most likely a child, at least around here. What is the real threshold of poverty? I asked my CPA and she said $60,000 in Sarasota, where housing is a little high and yet if you live out in the sticks you have huge commuting costs. Below $60K you are poor. Comments? Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Securing Word data
Hi Andy http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q223396 Looks at the problem from the point of view of not passing on meta data hidden in the document. I spent some weeks trying to find a solution to the question you are asking about a year ago while working on a project for a University and eventually purchased one of the Word add ins that allowed saving of the document in PDF format. Cheers Peter PETER HART COMPUTERS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: 10 October 2006 11:01 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Securing Word data Tristan suggested Adding a password to the file No that would protect the whole file - I need to allow most of the file to be modified whilst (s) protecting some bits Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Securing Word data
Some versions aren't as secure as others Office 2000 and later should be OK with a complex password. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Securing Word data
thanks for the replies - I have decided to rely on low level steganography - not many people actually know about file properties, or hidden text. So I have put the bits I want to secure in file properties or hidden text, I also already have a drawing from Visio (btw the Visio database reverse engineering isn't at all bad) to which I have added the secured text and then included it in the word doc. I also had to set word to print hidden text and drawings. Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] F# ???
Andy Davies wrote: Alan Bourke said Looks interesting:... I guess it depends on your mindset - mine doesn't encompass the lambda calculus: Q. 2+2=5 A. don't know - it's unprovable. Actually, it's true for extremely large values of 2, as the saying goes :) Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Recruitment ad
According to this week's Computer Weekly; Littlewoods are looking to recruit IT Problem Managers - in my experience that is a specialty that has never been in short supply vbg Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
Jim, I used DATACLAS for our applications talking to SQL. It has a table that says what server you should talk to. When one goes down, I update the table to talk to the other server. All users were up and running in 5 minutes when one of the servers went down. A word of warning though, if the server that is hosting the replication goes down, you will need to rebuild it. Though, I can say I rebuild the replication once a year because it leaves stuff and the database grows. I keep saying I am going to do more research on this go get some sprocs to clean it up better, but never seem to find the time. We have been using replication for years. I think it is a wonderful tool. Dawn Jim Felton wrote: Dawn, we are looking at SQL 2000 replication right now. Can it be setup to do an automatic roll over to the backup server if the main server fails? -Original Message- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Merle Norman Cosmetics. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Michael Madigan wrote: A person in poverty today has cable tv, telephone, cellphone, car, clothes, etc. A person in American poverty is not the same as a person in North Korean poverty, or a person living in poverty in Beverly Hills. Most poverty is self-inflicted. Drug, alcohol or gambling addictions, having children they can't afford, buying items they don't need. That's not to say real poverty doesn't exist, but it isn't as much as we'd like to believe. Going to the Dr. without insurance because you have two part time jobs and neither has a benefit plan. Your getting squeezed at the pump over the past 400 days when gas prices almost doubled. Just buying food at the store whose prices rose in inflation due to fuel costs alone. Schools that now require uniforms instead of street clothes. This includes body armor to keep your kids safe. Poverty is not self inflicted at all. If you have no education and your not part of the tech environment, life is difficult. Real Estate prices have gone nuts so your renting at worst or to much of your income is going towards your shelter. Michael I think that your so biased towards humanity that you have no clue to what poverty is all about. Why not volunteer at a soup kitchen for a couple of weekends just to see what mankind in dire straights is all about. Silly me. That would burst your bubble and see that our country is in worse shape than Fox News would ever present. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Michael Madigan wrote: Don't have to, they're print as you go. Costs you $7.00 a month for a premium website and free for a basic website. So if you have 7 bucks, you're in. They handle the shipping, printing, collection of money, returns, headaches, nonsense. You set the markup. For the profit in September, I'll receive a check on Nov 15th since they have a 30-day money back guarantee on the stuff. All you need is The Gimp, time, and clever ideas. It takes a few months to start seeing any money, including figuring out what sells, how to label your items, how to get into the search engines, how to upload to froogle and other things. I did a similar business in my college days. But I did the printing, screen designs, marketing, clean up, buying, It was a lot of work but good enough to get through 2 and a half years of college spending money. I started with bumper stickers and t shirts was a natural next step. Doing it on the web is much less risky in your capital layout with café express. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
Dawn Tierno-Culda wrote: Jim, I used DATACLAS for our applications talking to SQL. It has a table that says what server you should talk to. When one goes down, I update the table to talk to the other server. All users were up and running in 5 minutes when one of the servers went down. Is this automatic in a time out situation, or is it a manual adjustment? If you had a cluster it would do it on the fly for you. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Good Old VFP up yet again http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/469 - Release Date: 09/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
Stephen, Currently, it is manual. I will look into the cluster though. Can you explain a little about the cluster? Thanks for the information. Dawn Tierno-Culda wrote: Jim, I used DATACLAS for our applications talking to SQL. It has a table that says what server you should talk to. When one goes down, I update the table to talk to the other server. All users were up and running in 5 minutes when one of the servers went down. Stephen Wrote. Is this automatic in a time out situation, or is it a manual adjustment? If you had a cluster it would do it on the fly for you. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Merle Norman Cosmetics. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Dave Crozier escreveu: Good Old VFP up yet again http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm Dave Crozier VFP is going down: - April 2006 : 13# - May 2006 : 13# - June: 12# - July: 13# - August:: 14# - September: 18# - October: 20# -- Aílsom F. Heringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ailsom.osklen Analista de Sistemas -- Osklen Departamento de Informática Rio de Janeiro - RJ BRASIL http://www.osklen.com.br 55 21 22198971 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
OOPS, Looking at Last year's position - well we are up on where we were a year ago! Note: Must go to opticians for new eye test BG Dave Crozier The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie about your age -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ailsom F. Heringer (Osklen) Sent: 10 October 2006 13:56 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index Dave Crozier escreveu: Good Old VFP up yet again http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm Dave Crozier VFP is going down: - April 2006 : 13# - May 2006 : 13# - June: 12# - July: 13# - August:: 14# - September: 18# - October: 20# -- Aílsom F. Heringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ailsom.osklen Analista de Sistemas -- Osklen Departamento de Informática Rio de Janeiro - RJ BRASIL http://www.osklen.com.br 55 21 22198971 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
What they're showing in the Delta in Position is comparing it to what it was a year earlier. I'm wondering if the Visual Basic number is including VB6 plus the VB.NET numbers? If everyone wants the Visual Foxpro number to grow, you better get blogging! g Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Ailsom F. Heringer (Osklen) wrote: Dave Crozier escreveu: Good Old VFP up yet again http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm Dave Crozier VFP is going down: - April 2006 : 13# - May 2006 : 13# - June: 12# - July: 13# - August:: 14# - September: 18# - October: 20# ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication
Dawn Tierno-Culda wrote: Stephen, Currently, it is manual. I will look into the cluster though. Can you explain a little about the cluster? Give me a call, it's a lot of tying and I have already pressed those keys for this thread earlier. ;- Basically Cluster is Free from M$, as long as you have paid for the Server, OS, and SQL license for it. There are other packages out there that will fake the cluster through your network. They are expensive to pay for on top of the above fees. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
VFP will probably be out of TOP 20 list next month. Ailsom Kevin Cully escreveu: What they're showing in the Delta in Position is comparing it to what it was a year earlier. I'm wondering if the Visual Basic number is including VB6 plus the VB.NET numbers? If everyone wants the Visual Foxpro number to grow, you better get blogging! g Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Ailsom F. Heringer (Osklen) wrote: Dave Crozier escreveu: Good Old VFP up yet again http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm Dave Crozier VFP is going down: - April 2006 : 13# - May 2006 : 13# - June: 12# - July: 13# - August:: 14# - September: 18# - October: 20# [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
On 10/10/06, Kevin Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if the Visual Basic number is including VB6 plus the VB.NET numbers? From The Fine Article: Some languages are grouped together because they are very similar to each other. An example is the language entry Basic which covers Visual Basic, QBasic, Microsoft Basic, VB.NET, etc. If everyone wants the Visual Foxpro number to grow, you better get blogging! g I think when a dead horse is involved, the term is flogging. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Ray Noorda had died
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/10/ray_noorda_obituary/ -- .~.http://changmw.homeip.net / v \ May the Force and Farce be with you! Linux 2.6.18 /( _ )\ (Ubuntu 6.06) 21:19:01 up 19 days 23:44 ^ ^0 users load average: 1.00 1.00 1.00 news://news.3home.net news://news.hkpcug.org news://news.newsgroup.com.hk ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Thanks Ted. I missed that. Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Ted Roche wrote: Some languages are grouped together because they are very similar to each other. An example is the language entry Basic which covers Visual Basic, QBasic, Microsoft Basic, VB.NET, etc. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
If everyone wants the Visual Foxpro number to grow, you better get blogging! g I think when a dead horse is involved, the term is flogging. Premature disgruntaltion! :) - the product works very well and is dependable. - it's the only significant product with a built-in rdbms and those indispensable cursors - it's going to be officially supported for another 8 years, as long as any other MS product - if it checks out on Vista, an OS not even delivered yet, that will extend VFP's life for as long as Vista is around - on top of users still running Win/2k and up, which covers a major percentage of the world's computers. - user's don't care what language a program was written in. I installed my product at a small business location a few weeks ago, and there was no mention of what language it was written in. For all they know or care about it could be written in Swahili. - as more developing countries come on-line, they will be all too happy to discover something like FoxPro. A really good business bet would be foreign lang support. - Solutions for almost anything can be added to the product using it's own language or c, so it's growth is still happening. - If it's frozen, then MS wouldn't redesign it! - we really have no idea what possibilities we'll be able to choose from a decade from now. Bill Ted Roche ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:58:13 -0400, Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - user's don't care what language a program was written in. Users don't get to make that call a lot of the time. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Bill, Premature disgruntaltion! :) clapHear! Hear! Very well said!/clap Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
On Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:09 AM Alan Bourke wrote: Users don't get to make that call a lot of the time. Why should they? In my experience it is management that is worried about is there going to be enough programmers to support the application. The end user just cares about if the application helps them do their job. David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
- user's don't care what language a program was written in. Users don't get to make that call a lot of the time. I'm not saying there aren't forces working against us, but that ongoing expansion of our universe in every domain except some big businesses who lock us out is a really big plus. The positive thing is that it's a big pie, with no end in sight. As our attention becomes more world-centric, it becomes clearer just how many things we can do, and a lot of it is really worthwhile. Bill Alan Bourke ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So much for SOUNDEX()
On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:28 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: I've posted the Soundex coding source on my website: www.replacement-software.co.uk/vfp/Soundex.zip Thanks, Dave --- I downloaded it and I'll play with it... ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: So much for SOUNDEX()
On Oct 10, 2006, at 3:47 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: You could also have a go at using Bob Calco's Levenshtein class for matching strings. I had downloaded it before and played with it. Think I'll do it some more (now that you have jostled my fading memory). Merci - -- (Mercy) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Premature disgruntaltion! :) clapHear! Hear! Very well said!/clap I think I spelled it wrong s. Hope I didn't piss off Ted - he's one of my VFP heroes. Bill Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Don't let this happen to you!
A man and his wife are sitting in the living room and he says to her, Just so you know, I never want to live in a vegetative state dependent on some machine. If that ever happens, just pull the plug. OK, says his wife as she gets up and unplugs the TV. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
On 10/10/06, Bill Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Premature disgruntaltion! :) Perhaps not for your business, Bill. But for many. Gruntle's down nearly 60% here. - the product works very well and is dependable. True. We have dozens of users enjoying our vertical niche product, and hope they continue to for the next decade. Over the 15 years I was actively pursuing VFP work I have no doubt had a positive impact on tens of thousands of desktops. - it's the only significant product with a built-in rdbms and those indispensable cursors Dabo. Taken from another angle: if we're the only one with that feature, maybe everyone else has decided that the feature may not be as necessary now as it once was. - it's going to be officially supported for another 8 years, as long as any other MS product Assuming you want support from MS. Other languages out there are mostly likely going to be supported forever. And there is no one to set a deadline for support. - if it checks out on Vista, an OS not even delivered yet, that will extend VFP's life for as long as Vista is around - on top of users still running Win/2k and up, which covers a major percentage of the world's computers. And why would you want to run Vista? And what makes you think a security patch couldn't disable VFP's runtime? - user's don't care what language a program was written in. I installed my product at a small business location a few weeks ago, and there was no mention of what language it was written in. For all they know or care about it could be written in Swahili. For SMB businesses, that is often the case. For larger corporate clients, a different matter. Most anyone with an IT shop has deep concerns about what support they have to provide for an application. And VFP can be fairly high-maintenance. - as more developing countries come on-line, they will be all too happy to discover something like FoxPro. A really good business bet would be foreign lang support. Why would you choose a proprietary language supported by only one vendor, with a history of predatory practices, convictions for bad business behavior, high license costs (annual in some cases), currently under severe penalties in the EU, and clearly not an important product to that vendor? The One Laptop Per Child project won't run VFP. - Solutions for almost anything can be added to the product using it's own language or c, so it's growth is still happening. As can be said for nearly every other language out there. Perl, Python, Ruby, Lua, C,... - If it's frozen, then MS wouldn't redesign it! Ha! That's true, you've found an upside! - we really have no idea what possibilities we'll be able to choose from a decade from now. Look back a decade and look at the choice we had then: 95 and NT. The best predictor of the future is the past, unless we do something to change it. We must be the future we want. This is fun. Haven't had a Fox is Dead thread since... last month. I wasn't saying that the language was dead, just that trying to juice an artificial count of languages is silly. It's a popularity contest. And I've done my part: white papers, fox wiki posts, blogs, etc. But, like fashion, the world has moved on, and we're best off moving with them. Or to the beat of our own drummer. And, no, you're not pissing me off. The dead-horse-flogging was a flippant, off-the-cuff comment, but there's backup for it, too. We have met the enemy and it is us. We are faced with insurmountable opportunity. The world is a great big place and there are huge opportunities for skilled consultants and developers like us to succeed in environments where we don't have to fight so hard to use the right tools for the job. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] joje
A Mexican family was considering putting their grandfather in a nursing home. All the Catholic facilities were completely full so they had to put him in a Jewish home. After a few weeks in the Jewish facility, they came to visit grandpa. How do you like it here? asks the grandson It's wonderful! Everyone here is so courteous and respectful, says grandpa. We're so happy for you. We were worried that this was the wrong place for you. You know, since you are a little different from everyone. Oh, no! Let me tell you about how wonderfully they treat the residents here, grandpa says with a big smile. There's a musician here -- he's 85 years old. He hasn't played the violin in 20 years and everyone still calls him 'Maestro'! There is a judge in here -- he's 95 years old. He hasn't been on the bench in 30 years and everyone still calls him 'Your Honor'! And there's a physician here -- 90 years old. He hasn't been Practicing medicine for 25 years and everyone still calls him 'Doctor'! And me, I haven't had sex for 35 years and they still call me The F *** king Mexican! Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[NF] Sys Admin questions
I've spent about 40 hours this week fighting virus's on a friends computer. It seems that everything I could throw at it that I read about on the internet, either: 1. Didnt work or, 2. It would identify the problem and then they wanted you to pay to activate the program to remove it and there was no guarantee that it would work. I finally formatted the hard drive, downloaded the free.grisoft.com virus program and the new ewido anti spyware program that they have there and gave it back to them. My question is this: 1. What tools do all of ya'll use for virus's. 2. How can you justify billing somebody 40 hours at 35 per hr when you can buy a new computer for 400 bucks from dell ? Just curious so that I'll know how to deal with this stuff in the future. Thanks, Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4726 Home (830) 864-4799 Fax http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Death of a President
This is the film that has caused so much fuss before it had even been screened because of its depiction of Bush being assassinated. It got its British TV screening premier last night. Well, I fail to see what the fuss was all about. The scene in which Bush is assassinated is brief to say the least, and lasts less than a second. The film is shot like a documentary, and has interviews with various people involved with the incident, such as the security agents and demonstrators. If anything, I thought Bush was portrayed as a victim of a hysterical mob of hate filled fanatics. It was not in the least bit sensationalist or crass in its portrayal, and in fact dealt with it sensitively, showing an interview with a guilt ridden security agent who blamed himself for the incident. Forget what you might or might not have heard about this film. If you get the chance to see it, then do so. Regards Dominic Burford BSc (Hons) MBCS CITP | Senior Software Engineer | Pegasus | t: +44 1536 495000 | d: +44 1536 495074 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.pegasus.co.uk __ Pegasus Software Limited is an Infor company. This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e-mail or telephone. Pegasus Software Limited utilises an anti-virus system and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. You are however advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Pegasus Software Limited will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
I use Norton's Corporate Antivirus, and windows defender. I also use IE 7 w/ google's toolbar. They both block popups. I've used the Grisoft solution too. When I have to reformat someone's computer and reinstall, I bill them for the time I spend on the project. I've never seen it take more than about 4 hours - max. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:10 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: [NF] Sys Admin questions I've spent about 40 hours this week fighting virus's on a friends computer. It seems that everything I could throw at it that I read about on the internet, either: 1. Didnt work or, 2. It would identify the problem and then they wanted you to pay to activate the program to remove it and there was no guarantee that it would work. I finally formatted the hard drive, downloaded the free.grisoft.com virus program and the new ewido anti spyware program that they have there and gave it back to them. My question is this: 1. What tools do all of ya'll use for virus's. 2. How can you justify billing somebody 40 hours at 35 per hr when you can buy a new computer for 400 bucks from dell ? Just curious so that I'll know how to deal with this stuff in the future. Thanks, Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4726 Home (830) 864-4799 Fax http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
On 10/9/06, Virgil Bierschwale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally formatted the hard drive, downloaded the free.grisoft.com virus program and the new ewido anti spyware program that they have there and gave it back to them. My question is this: 1. What tools do all of ya'll use for virus's. GriSoft and ewido. And they're mostly worms and trojans, not viruses. 2. How can you justify billing somebody 40 hours at 35 per hr when you can buy a new computer for 400 bucks from dell ? It's a tough sell. It depends on what you offered to do and what the friend understood you were trying to do, and whether it was worth the effort for both of you. Sometimes I charge my clients for time and materials when they've asked me to research a line of inquiry even if the final effort is Don't do that. Sometime I eat hours I spend researching something I want to propose. Were you trying to recover the data from the drive? Did you succeed? There's a number of things you can consider doing, depending on what business you are in, whether you want to retain your friends, and how critical the computer is: 1. Next time, have them take it to the local big-box store where they do what you did for 2 hours @ $60/hr. 2. Pull out the bad drive, replace it with the $49 special from the big box, do a clean install, then salvage what data and documents you can from the original. 3. Install Linux and tell them this is the new version. 4. Offer to buy their old machine for the original price/(2^#years-old) and send them off to Dell to buy a new box. Fix the old one at your leisure. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: My question is this: 1. What tools do all of ya'll use for virus's. 2. How can you justify billing somebody 40 hours at 35 per hr when you can buy a new computer for 400 bucks from dell ? Your customers data is Priceless. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] joje
What is a joje? Is that some kind of pejorative for a minority? Hah! You will probably say it's a typo and should have been joke, but we all know better. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
I've told my friends that I don't support Window anymore. I'd be happy to install Linux on their machine though. 30 minutes including formatting the HD. g Kevin Cully CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006! http://foxforward.net Virgil Bierschwale wrote: I've spent about 40 hours this week fighting virus's on a friends computer. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Thanks for the response Ted. I did this for a friend so I didnt charge anything and yes it took a lot longer because I wanted to save the data. After going down a lot of dead ends, I basically: 1. Took a used drive and copied the data to it. 2. Formatted the existing drive. 3. Reloaded windows and installed avg free and ewido free, updated windows and copied data back which was mainly music and pictures. Probably only 2 - 3 hours actual time, but a lot of time wasted going down dead ends which is why I decided to see how everybody else did it.. In case I run into it again for a paying customer. Thanks, Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4726 Home (830) 864-4799 Fax http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] joje
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 12:12, Hal Kaplan wrote: What is a joje? Is that some kind of pejorative for a minority? Hah! You will probably say it's a typo and should have been joke, but we all know better. Hi Hal! Joje, huh? Everyone knows that joje is a code word for a New York Jewish fa**ot. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
I used to work for a company that charged their clients $125/hour for any type of support (including bugs, but that's another post). One client in particular had a huge problem with viruses, Trojans, worms, etc. But, they were always happy to have me come out and spend 4 hours 'cleaning' up for them (and invoicing $500). I complained to my boss once that it seemed excessive to charge so much for (what I believed to be) so little, but my boss said, Kevin, they're not paying for the work you do, they are paying for the KNOWLEDGE you have. Funny, though, out of the $125/hour the company was getting, I got $28/hour, though *I* was the only one in the company with the KNOWLEDGE... :) Which is exactly why I do all of this on my own time, terms and conditions today. I do find myself recommending new PC's and specifically, training, more and more often these days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:46 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions Thanks for the response Ted. I did this for a friend so I didnt charge anything and yes it took a lot longer because I wanted to save the data. After going down a lot of dead ends, I basically: 1. Took a used drive and copied the data to it. 2. Formatted the existing drive. 3. Reloaded windows and installed avg free and ewido free, updated windows and copied data back which was mainly music and pictures. Probably only 2 - 3 hours actual time, but a lot of time wasted going down dead ends which is why I decided to see how everybody else did it.. In case I run into it again for a paying customer. Thanks, Virgil Bierschwale Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate (830) 329-6774 Cell (830) 864-4726 Home (830) 864-4799 Fax http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.virgilslist.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Death of a President
Since I made the point vis a vis this movie about Bush's critics having Bush's assassination on their mind to a seriously unhealthy degree, two more incidents (at least) have occurred: 1. Ed Rendell (D) in PA made an analogy between the massacre of innocents in the Amish school and a determined presidential assassin, by way of deflecting calls to increase security at public schools. If a killer is determined and willing to kill the President, 50 secret service agents can't stop him; he'll get a point-blank shot at the president. Something to that effect. he could have chosen dozens of other analogies. He chose that one. 2. John Kerry joked about killing George Bush on some tonight show. I heard the audio clip in passing while driving the other day, and got the impression it was intended to sound humorous but my point stands. The issue from my perspective was and is the crazy obsession with hinting at, suggesting or otherwise positing Bush's assasination, going back to 2004, and the consistency with which this idea was coming up from critics, in particular Democrats. It isn't healthy, however you try to justify it by criminalizing policy differences. The other point I made about the movie based on an article that supposedly described its storyline was the utterly absurd path it took in picturing the funeral, Cheney's reaction to it, Bush's mother's reaction to it, etc., all of which shows the critics can't imagine actual human beings in place of the caricatures they've molded in the public consciousness with their relentless attacks. Whatever potential it had as a what-if piece was exposed as so much hot air by what ends up being a political hit-piece on both the President and the Vice President. Which is in keeping with the Left's demonstrated commitment to tolerance and diversity of opinion, as exemplified by numerous stalinist regimes murdering millions of people in the last century---a tradition some are apparently trying to revive in Russia lately, and which is still going strong in North Korea, China and other hell-holes of the world. I never once advocated boycotting the movie, or otherwise censoring it; I was merely despairing of the observation that Bush's loyal opposition doesn't just want to defeat him politically. They want him dead. And they don't really understand him or what makes his supporters tick, outside of stupid cliches. Now if that article was incorrect in its description -- if the movie does not quote Barbara Bush being crass at the funeral, or imagine a mad Dick Cheney making war on Cuba and mowing down protestors at Guantanamo, etc. -- then perhaps I would be interested in the movie as you describe it. But I frankly don't think it was necessary in any case to provide the visual of him being murdered---the point could have effectively been made and the situation posited without the stunningly real graphics. It's kind of like how Hollywood these days thinks you can't imagine two people having sex anymore, so they waste time depicting all the positions in sequence. Whatever realism it added to the movie wasn't worth it. But even so, the point about the theme of Bush's fatal demise coming with such alarming frequency from Bush's critics is valid and the continuing trend is disturbing. - Bob On Oct 10, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Dominic Burford wrote: This is the film that has caused so much fuss before it had even been screened because of its depiction of Bush being assassinated. It got its British TV screening premier last night. Well, I fail to see what the fuss was all about. The scene in which Bush is assassinated is brief to say the least, and lasts less than a second. The film is shot like a documentary, and has interviews with various people involved with the incident, such as the security agents and demonstrators. If anything, I thought Bush was portrayed as a victim of a hysterical mob of hate filled fanatics. It was not in the least bit sensationalist or crass in its portrayal, and in fact dealt with it sensitively, showing an interview with a guilt ridden security agent who blamed himself for the incident. Forget what you might or might not have heard about this film. If you get the chance to see it, then do so. Regards Dominic Burford BSc (Hons) MBCS CITP | Senior Software Engineer | Pegasus | t: +44 1536 495000 | d: +44 1536 495074 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.pegasus.co.uk __ Pegasus Software Limited is an Infor company. This e-mail is from Pegasus Software Limited. The e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Please notify the sender by e- mail
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
1. Poor people should not be having children. If they do, then poverty is their own fault. Why do we accept the poor having children, but not BMWs? They are both a luxury. 2. Why do they not have an education? --- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: A person in poverty today has cable tv, telephone, cellphone, car, clothes, etc. A person in American poverty is not the same as a person in North Korean poverty, or a person living in poverty in Beverly Hills. Most poverty is self-inflicted. Drug, alcohol or gambling addictions, having children they can't afford, buying items they don't need. That's not to say real poverty doesn't exist, but it isn't as much as we'd like to believe. Going to the Dr. without insurance because you have two part time jobs and neither has a benefit plan. Your getting squeezed at the pump over the past 400 days when gas prices almost doubled. Just buying food at the store whose prices rose in inflation due to fuel costs alone. Schools that now require uniforms instead of street clothes. This includes body armor to keep your kids safe. Poverty is not self inflicted at all. If you have no education and your not part of the tech environment, life is difficult. Real Estate prices have gone nuts so your renting at worst or to much of your income is going towards your shelter. Michael I think that your so biased towards humanity that you have no clue to what poverty is all about. Why not volunteer at a soup kitchen for a couple of weekends just to see what mankind in dire straights is all about. Silly me. That would burst your bubble and see that our country is in worse shape than Fox News would ever present. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] - SQL- Database Replication [OT]
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 03:37, Chet Gardiner wrote: Hi Chet! Lennon was a bit of a hypocrite, I think. His money made life a snap for him, left him with the liesure to criticize those of us who don't have enough for our greed or hunger. He knows the truth now. Regards, Pete Imagine - John Lennon Imagine there's no Heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one John Lennon has rejoined the one-ness that is the only reward. This has officially slipped [OT] Pete Theisen wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 02:33, Chet Gardiner wrote: If you have no religion at all then data security and integrity are the least of your worries. ??? Hi Chet! If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. Regards, Pete = On 10/9/06, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = How do you protect yourself when everything is in one place? = = 3 Hail Mary's ? Sheesh, we went through this last week. HAIL MARYS. But what if you're not Christian? What then?Hi Hal! Say whatever prayer that your religion says. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
The only real risk is wasting time on a design that nobody wants. But that can be mitigated with a lot of different designs. The designs I think would sell don't, and the ones I'm luke warm on, do. --- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Don't have to, they're print as you go. Costs you $7.00 a month for a premium website and free for a basic website. So if you have 7 bucks, you're in. They handle the shipping, printing, collection of money, returns, headaches, nonsense. You set the markup. For the profit in September, I'll receive a check on Nov 15th since they have a 30-day money back guarantee on the stuff. All you need is The Gimp, time, and clever ideas. It takes a few months to start seeing any money, including figuring out what sells, how to label your items, how to get into the search engines, how to upload to froogle and other things. I did a similar business in my college days. But I did the printing, screen designs, marketing, clean up, buying, It was a lot of work but good enough to get through 2 and a half years of college spending money. I started with bumper stickers and t shirts was a natural next step. Doing it on the web is much less risky in your capital layout with café express. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Death of a President
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 03:01, Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! Yeah, trouble with stuff like this is some dim bulb will get an idea from it and take a shot at Tony Blair. Cops in GB don't have guns so they will lose a few just trying to collar him. Regards, Pete This is the film that has caused so much fuss before it had even been screened because of its depiction of Bush being assassinated. It got its British TV screening premier last night. Well, I fail to see what the fuss was all about. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Kevin Ragsdale wrote: I used to work for a company that charged their clients $125/hour for any type of support (including bugs, but that's another post). One client in particular had a huge problem with viruses, Trojans, worms, etc. But, they were always happy to have me come out and spend 4 hours 'cleaning' up for them (and invoicing $500). I complained to my boss once that it seemed excessive to charge so much for (what I believed to be) so little, but my boss said, Kevin, they're not paying for the work you do, they are paying for the KNOWLEDGE you have. That's a very good point. It reminds me of a story here many years ago, I think from Gene Wirechenko (sp?), where he had a client whose printer was acting up, and he showed up onsite, went to it, punched a few buttons, and fixed it. The client then bitched that he shouldn't have to pay so much for something that took Gene so little time to do, at which point Gene offered to put the printer back to the way it was with the problem. Very good story! Funny, though, out of the $125/hour the company was getting, I got $28/hour, though *I* was the only one in the company with the KNOWLEDGE... :) Just remember that built into that rate is a lot of other factors too, including the shop overhead, health insurance costs, workman's compensation costs, other insurance costs, electricity, garbage, etc. etc. etc. !! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Kevin Ragsdale wrote: I used to work for a company that charged their clients $125/hour for any type of support (including bugs, but that's another post). One client in particular had a huge problem with viruses, Trojans, worms, etc. But, they were always happy to have me come out and spend 4 hours 'cleaning' up for them (and invoicing $500). I complained to my boss once that it seemed excessive to charge so much for (what I believed to be) so little, but my boss said, Kevin, they're not paying for the work you do, they are paying for the KNOWLEDGE you have. Same story with the car in the auto repair shop. Mechanic listens to the car for a minute, opens the hood, takes out a screwdriver and gives a screw a half turn. $75. WHAT? Oh, it's just a nickel for turning the screw. It was $74.95 for knowing WHICH screw to turn and HOW MUCH to turn it. Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Michael Madigan wrote: The only real risk is wasting time on a design that nobody wants. But that can be mitigated with a lot of different designs. The designs I think would sell don't, and the ones I'm luke warm on, do. I didn't notice any art work, just text statements. Been a while since I looked, but is there really a difference? I did text bumper stickers in the beginning. That spawned to shirts for Greek events, and clubs at the college. Also funded a few dead tours gas, tickets, food and I had lots of bumper stickers that never made it. Some went well within a specific group so if your production was low enough, they sold out and someone else would come up with the next great saying. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Michael J. Babcock wrote: Just remember that built into that rate is a lot of other factors too, including the shop overhead, health insurance costs, workman's compensation costs, other insurance costs, electricity, garbage, etc. etc. etc. !! Excellent point, Michael. The old guy that started the company had written a home-grown accounting system in Clipper. Became a millionaire. I'm still looking for my million-dollar idea... :) Kevin [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
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RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Michael Madigan wrote: 1. Poor people should not be having children. If they do, then poverty is their own fault. Why do we accept the poor having children, but not BMWs? They are both a luxury. Are you kidding? Poverty is not a function of children. I know a few families who have 8+ kids each, and they make about the same income I do. They have expanded their homes to accommodate larger # of rooms. Their children went to home school and then private school for high school years. All kids received college scholarships for academics first and then were given the rest of the ride for their circumstances. Now granted only 3 of them are in college as of now so there are a lot still at home! Both of these families are richer then most people I know. There is more then a balance sheet to value worth here. These people know how to work together, not expect handouts, and most importantly they have respect for others. 2. Why do they not have an education? Parents not understanding what an education provides. Parents who are to young to bear the responsibility of raising children. Parents who are so selfish that they only focus on their own run and ignore the children. Single parent who is there so little because she works 1.5 jobs a week to make ends meet. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 13:03, Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! This is one topic where you inexplicably buy into the left-wing Planned Parenthood line. No one can afford to not have children. In fact, our retirement is based upon everyone having children. If you are without children, no one will care for you in your old age. Think I'm kidding? Your pension will evaporate just as you need it without so much as a sorry, we are seeing this happen every day right now. Social Security will certainly tank right on schedule if not before, or pay off in worthless dollars and all investments derive their future value only on the demand that there might be for them versus the supply at that time. Any demand for whatever you have invested in will come from someone's children. Retire when the market/economy is down and you are screwed, unless your kids are working. Kids are a luxury only if living in a house and eating food is a luxury. Regards, Pete 1. Poor people should not be having children. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Sys Admin questions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Same story with the car in the auto repair shop. Mechanic listens to the car for a minute, opens the hood, takes out a screwdriver and gives a screw a half turn. $75. WHAT? Oh, it's just a nickel for turning the screw. It was $74.95 for knowing WHICH screw to turn and HOW MUCH to turn it. Oh, and that screw turn identified a tiny fissure in the hose next to the screw. That hose will cost you 29.95 and labor of 150. as well as the flush of your radiator. Two hours later. We found oil residue in your radiator fluid and it's not supposed to be there. We are now looking at the rebuild costing 480.00 in parts and 1,800 for the labor. Bad Steve! Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Credit report
I'd like to see what my credit report looks like. I've heard of freecreditreport.com but wondered if others have found a different way to get this information? Thanks, --Michael -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Credit report
Michael, Take a look at the following article. I also recommend you do a search on freecreditreport.com on the MSNBC site. I remember reading a not-too-flattering article about them recently. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9120681/ Hope this helps, Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:46 PM To: Profox Subject: [OT] Credit report I'd like to see what my credit report looks like. I've heard of freecreditreport.com but wondered if others have found a different way to get this information? Thanks, --Michael -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Pete Theisen wrote: Retire when the market/economy is down and you are screwed, unless your kids are working. Kids are a luxury only if living in a house and eating food is a luxury. And the kids tollerate your raggedy old ass. But then neither of you has that to worry about. Bad Steve! Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Death of a President
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 13:09, Jean Laeremans wrote: On 10/10/06, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 10 October 2006 03:01, Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! Yeah, trouble with stuff like this is some dim bulb will get an idea from it and take a shot at Tony Blair. Cops in GB don't have guns so they will lose a few just trying to collar him. So you believe the agents protecting Blair don't have guns ? Not every cop is a street cop Hi Jean! To hear the left tell it, guns are obsolete for a civilization such as the UK. I hope they get the perp and take no casualties themselves in any case. I also hope Blair stays under cover. See him on TV it looks like he is completely unprotected except for a Bearskin hat or two armed with spears. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Credit report
MB Software Solutions wrote: I'd like to see what my credit report looks like. I've heard of freecreditreport.com but wondered if others have found a different way to get this information? Talk to your banker about getting pre qualified for a new home purchase, now that the bubble has burst. Tell them that you want to get a copy of it at the same time with an explanation on the score. If they say no, walk into another bank. That site you named makes you provide funding of your info after this free report, and it took a while to get it dropped/stopped in my case. Only success was changing banks. That was also in the late 90s so things could have changed. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Credit report
MB Software Solutions wrote: I'd like to see what my credit report looks like. I've heard of freecreditreport.com but wondered if others have found a different way to get this information? The three major credit reporters are required by law to give you one free copy of your credit report per year. Just go to their websites (transunion, trw, etc) and look around. I did it about 6 months ago and it only took about 20 minutes to get all three. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Ted, I think you've got the 'pioneer bug', and I don't mean that in a bad way because only a small percentage of people in any field have the wherewithal to do anything on that level. I do lament that folks like yourself, Ed (and insert list) have split off, but I admit it's a selfish feeling because people like me gained a lot from the great efforts you folks put into helping us, I suppose in many cases without your even knowing it. Having said that, and even acknowledging best arguments to the contrary, I still stand by the optimism expressed for VFP. The job market seems to be lousy these days, but the product market is a different story. It's not that I don't think about the future, but Windows still has that brass ring, and I don't see a PC OS in sight that meets or beats standards set by IBM and OS 390, so I figure now isn't the best time to shop for a platform change. Maybe in this decade there will either be such a machine or it will be on the horizon. OS independence, like Ed and Paul (and yourself?) are getting with Dabo has the obvious allure, but it's a huge investment, and there is a gamble there on Python's future OS compatibility and the prospect of brand new latest and greatest competitors. But this whole business is gamble! What else is new? I understand and share the angst over MS. But another angle there, possibly in VFP's favor, is that with Big Bill leaving, more reasonable people may get involved and let the red-headed step-child out of the attic and put some new clothes on him (her?). I think it's a real possibility. Bill Premature disgruntaltion! :) Perhaps not for your business, Bill. But for many. Gruntle's down nearly 60% here. - the product works very well and is dependable. True. We have dozens of users enjoying our vertical niche product, and hope they continue to for the next decade. Over the 15 years I was actively pursuing VFP work I have no doubt had a positive impact on tens of thousands of desktops. clipped Ted Roche ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Credit report
Vince Teachout wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: I'd like to see what my credit report looks like. I've heard of freecreditreport.com but wondered if others have found a different way to get this information? The three major credit reporters are required by law to give you one free copy of your credit report per year. Just go to their websites (transunion, trw, etc) and look around. I did it about 6 months ago and it only took about 20 minutes to get all three. Getting a transaltion on anthing there is important. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [NF] Sys Admin questions
On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: costing 480.00 in parts and 1,800 for the labor. Bad Steve! No, Realistic Steve ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] What is the real poverty line?
Been selling a lot of the boycott citgo stickers --- Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: The only real risk is wasting time on a design that nobody wants. But that can be mitigated with a lot of different designs. The designs I think would sell don't, and the ones I'm luke warm on, do. I didn't notice any art work, just text statements. Been a while since I looked, but is there really a difference? I did text bumper stickers in the beginning. That spawned to shirts for Greek events, and clubs at the college. Also funded a few dead tours gas, tickets, food and I had lots of bumper stickers that never made it. Some went well within a specific group so if your production was low enough, they sold out and someone else would come up with the next great saying. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Mark Foley Gear http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Design question
Hal Kaplan wrote: FoxSee? You mean like ACDSee? I do not want to deprive anyone of anything, Paul, but that is really what your client needs ACDSee Photo Manager. Version 9 just came out and the pricing is attractive. HALinNY ACDSee is a great product but is not really suited to the client's needs - it has a lot of features (editing of images to name but just one) that he certainly would not want made available to his clients. The application is for archiving and retrieval of burial registers and related documents. Each entry (line) on each page of the burial register has to be indexed so that, again for example, he can retrieve all images pertaining to the burial of somebody called Smith between the years 1920-1922 in the parish of Erehwon. It really does need a custom solution rather than something off-the-shelf ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Death of a President
On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Robert Calco wrote: Since I made the point vis a vis this movie about Bush's critics having Bush's assassination on their mind to a seriously unhealthy degree, two more incidents (at least) have occurred: 1. Ed Rendell (D) in PA made an analogy between the massacre of innocents in the Amish school and a determined presidential assassin, by way of deflecting calls to increase security at public schools. If a killer is determined and willing to kill the President, 50 secret service agents can't stop him; he'll get a point-blank shot at the president. Something to that effect. he could have chosen dozens of other analogies. He chose that one. 2. John Kerry joked about killing George Bush on some tonight show. I heard the audio clip in passing while driving the other day, and got the impression it was intended to sound humorous but my point stands. Here it is: (In an interview by Bill Maher) http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/10/10/a-metaphor-or-a-fantasy/ [quote] Maher asked [Senator John Kerry] what he got his wife for her birthday. Kerry said that he took his wife to a lovely retreat in Vermont. Begin transcript: Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone. Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone. [/quote] Ha. Ha. What a commode-ian. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
Bill Arnold wrote: I understand and share the angst over MS. But another angle there, possibly in VFP's favor, is that with Big Bill leaving, more reasonable people may get involved and let the red-headed step-child out of the attic and put some new clothes on him (her?). I think it's a real possibility. Why in the world would you think it's a real possibility? It wasn't BG alone who was responsible for the red-headed step-child behavior...and most of those folks are probably still there after BG leaves. I gotta hand it to you, Bill...you are the eternal optimist! Now if everyone had your level of faith in several aspects of their life, this world would certainly be a better place! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Credit report
From Everyday Cheapskate: http://www.cheapskatemonthly.com Get Your Free Credit Report Everyday Cheapskate is Mary Hunt`s daily newspaper column, syndicated to approximatley 550 newspapers around the country. Get Your Free Credit Report It’s been a year since the Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act (FACTA) became law. The law, packed with new protections for consumers provides that every person in the U.S. is entitled to receive one free personal credit report each year from each of the three major credit bureaus, Experian, Equifax and TransUnion through a centralized source. Due to the enormity of this national giveaway, the bureaus were granted permission to roll-out free credit reports by regions: Dec. 1, 2004: Western states; March 1, 2005: Midwestern states; June 1, 2005: Southern states and Sept. 1, 2005: Eastern states. Until your region becomes active, unless you live in the handful of states that offer free credit reports (Colorado, Georgia, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, or Vermont), you’ll need to pay as much as $9 to look your credit record. There are three ways you can gain access to your free reports: Internet: AnnualCreditReport.com (the only service the bureaus have authorized for requesting your free annual report) will allow you to request, view and print one, two or all three of your free credit reports quickly via this secure Internet site. I live in the West and I can report this site works well. The process is quick and efficient. I had one of my free credit reports printed within 7 minutes of arriving at the site. Toll-free number: (877) 322-8228 Mailing address: Annual Credit Report Request Service, P.O. Box 105281, Atlanta, GA 30348-5281. Allow 15 days to process phone and mail requests. Credit bureaus are for-profit corporations raking in billions of dollars each year selling consumer data. They sell your information for marketing purposes. That explains many of the unsolicited offers and piles of junk in your mail box. (You can opt out at 1-888 567-8688 by the way.) These bureaus also gather credit and other data on all adults in the U.S., occasionally a child or pets from time to time and that always makes for a funny story. They compete with one another to sell copies of our reports to us. At a minimum cost of $9 a pop, you can imagine the loss of revenue they are facing as free reports become available region by region. But they sell more than just credit reports. They sell credit monitoring, credit scores, 3-in-1 credit profiles and on it goes. This will not change. The FTC has given the bureaus permission to “up sell” us when we request a free credit report. Unless you are refinancing or applying for credit you need to view your credit score only occasionally (once a year at the most). You can monitor your own credit report. My advice is to just take your three free reports (stagger them so you get one every four months) and to not fall for offers of add-ons. How to interpret the information in your reports and dispute inaccuracies (if any) will be topics for a future column. Stand by. Copyright © 2004 Mary Hunt ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
[OT] Idiots of 2005
I didn't see any reference to this on snopes.com, so enjoy even though they may still be fake. Number One - Idiot of 2005 I am a medical student currently doing a rotation in toxicology at the poison control center. Today, this woman called in very upset because she caught her little daughter eating ants. I quickly reassured her that the ants are not harmful and there would be no need to bring her daughter into the hospital. She calmed down and at the end of the conversation happened to mention that she gave her daughter some ant poison to eat in order to kill the ants. I told her that she better bring her daughter into the emergency room right away. Here's your sign, lady. Wear it with pride. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ Number Two - Idiot of 2005 Early this year, some Boeing employees on the airfield decided to steal a life raft from one of the 747s. They were successful in getting it out of the plane and home. Shortly after they took it for a float on the river, they noticed a Coast Guard helicopter coming towards them. It turned out that the chopper was homing in on the emergency locator beacon that activated when the raft was inflated. They are no longer employed at Boeing. Here's your sign, guys. Don't get it wet; the paint might run. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ Number Three - Idiot of 2005 A man, wanting to rob a downtown Bank of America, walked into the Branch and wrote this iz a stikkup. Put all your muny in this bag. While standing in line, waiting to give his note to the teller, he began to worry that someone had seen him write the note and might call the police before he reached the teller's window. So he left the Bank of America and crossed the street to the Wells Fargo Bank. After waiting a few minutes in line, he handed his note to the Wells Fargo teller. She read it and, surmising from his spelling errors that he wasn't the brightes t light in the harbor, told him that she could not accept his stickup note because it was written on a Bank of America deposit Slip and that he would either have to fill out a Wells Fargo deposit slip or go back to Bank of America. Looking somewhat defeated, the man said, OK and left. He was arrested a few minutes later, as he was waiting in line back at Bank of America. Don't bother with this guy's sign. He probably couldn't read it anyway. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ Number Four - Idiot of 2005 A motorist was unknowingly caught in an automated speed trap that measured his speed using radar and photographed his car. He later received in the mail a ticket for $40 and a photo of his Car. Instead of payment, he sent the police department a photograph of $40. Several days later, he received a letter from the police that contained another picture, this time of handcuffs. He immediately mailed in his $40. Smart butt, But you still get a sign ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ Number Five - Idiot of 2005 A guy walked into a little corner store with a shotgun and demanded all of the cash from the cash drawer. After the cashier put the cash in a bag, the robber saw a bottle of Scotch that he wanted behind the counter on the shelf. He told the cashier to put it in the bag as well, but the cashier refused and said, Because I don't believe you are over 21. The robber said he was, but the clerk still refused to give it to him because she didn't believe him. At this point, the robber took his driver's license out of his wallet and gave it to the clerk. The clerk looked it over and agreed that the man was in fact over 21 and she put the Scotch in the bag. The robber then ran from the store with his loot. The cashier promptly called the police and gave the name and address of the robber that he got off the license.n bsp; They arrested the robber two hours later. This guy definitely needs a sign. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ Number Six - Idiot of 2005 A pair of Michigan robbers entered a record shop nervously waving revolvers. The first one shouted, Nobody move! When his partner moved, the startled first bandit shot him. This guy doesn't even deserve a sign ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ Number Seven - Idiot of 2005 Arkansas : Seems this guy wanted some beer pretty badly. He decided that he'd just throw a cinder block through a liquor store window, grab some booze, and run. So he lifted the cinder block and heaved it over his head at the window. The cinder block bounced back knocking him unconscious. It seems the liquor store window was made of Plexi-Glass. The whole event was caught on videotape. Yep, Here's your sign (Please note that all of the above people are allowed to vote) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:
Online/offline design
I'm looking at an app that will have an online component and an offline one. Does anyone have any favorite references for what to do to keep the data reasonably close to in sync? I'm thinking that people would have to download the data to their laptops, make the changes, and then upload the changes at the end of the session, checking for duplicate info and resolving any changes that were made. That would mean maintaining a separate audit trail for upload, I guess, rather than waste the time pushing unchanged data back up to the server. Or is there something I'm really blatantly missing here? (SQL Server replication, for example, if that's reliable enough.) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: [OT] Death of a President
I can't wait for him to lose his next election. He is so fun. --- Robert Calco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Robert Calco wrote: Since I made the point vis a vis this movie about Bush's critics having Bush's assassination on their mind to a seriously unhealthy degree, two more incidents (at least) have occurred: 1. Ed Rendell (D) in PA made an analogy between the massacre of innocents in the Amish school and a determined presidential assassin, by way of deflecting calls to increase security at public schools. If a killer is determined and willing to kill the President, 50 secret service agents can't stop him; he'll get a point-blank shot at the president. Something to that effect. he could have chosen dozens of other analogies. He chose that one. 2. John Kerry joked about killing George Bush on some tonight show. I heard the audio clip in passing while driving the other day, and got the impression it was intended to sound humorous but my point stands. Here it is: (In an interview by Bill Maher) http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2006/10/10/a-metaphor-or-a-fantasy/ [quote] Maher asked [Senator John Kerry] what he got his wife for her birthday. Kerry said that he took his wife to a lovely retreat in Vermont. Begin transcript: Maher: You could have went to New Hampshire and killed two birds with one stone. Kerry: Or, I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone. [/quote] Ha. Ha. What a commode-ian. - Bob ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: VFP Up in Tiobe Index
On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Bill Arnold wrote: and there is a gamble there on Python's future OS compatibility What does this mean? Python runs on just about every OS out there, and there is absolutely no reason to believe that it might cease to do so in the future. Why do you consider it a gamble? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Online/offline design
Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: I'm looking at an app that will have an online component and an offline one. Does anyone have any favorite references for what to do to keep the data reasonably close to in sync? I'm thinking that people would have to download the data to their laptops, make the changes, and then upload the changes at the end of the session, checking for duplicate info and resolving any changes that were made. That would mean maintaining a separate audit trail for upload, I guess, rather than waste the time pushing unchanged data back up to the server. Or is there something I'm really blatantly missing here? (SQL Server replication, for example, if that's reliable enough.) I'm interested in this, too. I thought of the CREATEOFFLINE command in VFP when I first started thinking of this awhile back. But I've never heard of anyone using this feature, ever, in all the time I've used VFP (since the late 1990s). -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Online/offline design
Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: I'm looking at an app that will have an online component and an offline one. Does anyone have any favorite references for what to do to keep the data reasonably close to in sync? I'm thinking that people would have to download the data to their laptops, make the changes, and then upload the changes at the end of the session, checking for duplicate info and resolving any changes that were made. That would mean maintaining a separate audit trail for upload, I guess, rather than waste the time pushing unchanged data back up to the server. Or is there something I'm really blatantly missing here? (SQL Server replication, for example, if that's reliable enough.) MSDE and replication to SQL Server or another MSDE at the office. Free to enable, your license fees may vary. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/470 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
