FPW fast machine patch.

[Dave Crozier]

Guys,
Any help on running the "fast machine patch" on FPW 2.6 would be
appreciated. 
 
Problem:
I have standard FPW2.6 installation disks as well as the add on development
kit. I have just installed both into c:\fpw26 no problems. Obviously FPW
doesn't load and comes up with the "divide by zero error".
 
I have the patch (Patch26.exe) as well as the upgrade files to upgrade to
2.6a. When I run the patch which says it has run successfully and still the
problem occurrs. The date/timestamp on the FPW files it has said it has
patched doesn't change neither does the file size and I'm just wondering 

1. Why hasn't it worked? (nothing seems to have changed even though the
patch says update successful)
2. Do I have the correct patch file? (I downloaded this one along with the
2.6a update from Microsoft years ago)
3. Am I following the correct procedure as the readme instructions with the
patch file are vague to say the least.
 
I've never needed to do this patch before as I haven't needed to run FPW for
years and years but something has cropped up which needs me to write an FPW
".exe" and I'm struggling.
 
Dave Crozier
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about your age 

 

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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 06 November 2006 18:57, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> El Lunes 06 Noviembre 2006 17:00, Pete Theisen escribió:

> > > But I endured 7 years of military dictatorship, 60,000 missing people,
> > > my wife's grandmom kidnapped (by the state forces), raped, tortured
> > > (electricity, submarine, tweezers, etc). And then some. The funny thing
> > > is this coup d'etat was  backed, organized and financed by USA.
> >
> > Hi Ricardo!
> >
> > Whoa! Can you prove this - that the USA financed the coup? Or was it
> > financed by rich people who were Americans - not exactly the same thing.
>
> Hi Pete.
>   Well I'm not a lawyer nor a detective nor a historian. But it is common
> knowledge here that  had a green light from Washinton. The govt was 
>recognized next day by USA  The coup was organized and financed by the 
> CIA.

Hi Ricardo!

So there is some evidence but it is not enough to be "proof". Was your wife's 
grandmother targeted or was she just at the wrong place at the wrong time?

I thought that all the governments in Latin America were dictatorships from 
the dawn of their history and the revolutions are just a changing of the 
dictator. Is this not the case?
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Pete
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Re: FPW fast machine patch.

[Peter Cushing]

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Problem:
> I have standard FPW2.6 installation disks as well as the add on development
> kit. I have just installed both into c:\fpw26 no problems. Obviously FPW
> doesn't load and comes up with the "divide by zero error".
>  
> I have the patch (Patch26.exe) as well as the upgrade files to upgrade to
> 2.6a. When I run the patch which says it has run successfully and still the
> problem occurrs. The date/timestamp on the FPW files it has said it has
> patched doesn't change neither does the file size and I'm just wondering 
>
>   
Hi Dave,

Just looked at my version and it is 2.6a as well.  I think our version 
was 2.6a to start with I.e. not upgraded.  We applied the patch years 
ago and had no problems on any machine since.  Will have to see if I can 
dig out the patch I applied.
I could complile it for you if you want, or you can have a copy of my 
EXE if you want.

Cheers

Peter



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Re: [OT] 1 in 5 children can't find the UK on a map.

[Pete Theisen]

On Monday 06 November 2006 20:09, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> > I think you have been married to a good woman for a long time and you
> > just don't know what other women are like nowadays. Nightmare is what
> > it feels like, but it is really happening. --
>
> Maybe you need to go to different locations to find more variety. Or get
> one off the internet out of the Philippines.

Hi Stephen!

At 61 I'm not *that* anxious about it. No need to provide someone with a green 
card sight unseen.

All of my friends who have gone that route have gotten a worse feminist than 
if they had just cruised the corner bar and picked up the skankiest one still 
in there at closing time.
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[OT] Raining: Rs sweep Sarasota

[Pete Theisen]

Hi Everybody!

It is raining and nasty on election day morning. God has decided to vote R.
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[NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale 
behind it, let's leave that for another time. 

So now I've got some pretty basic questions I've been spoiled for so 
long, with a pair of T1s coming into the house right next to this TW 
line... Kind of like the frustration at having to deal with a dial-up. 

Anyways, the fellow who installed it wasn't terribly helpful (BIG 
SURPRISE), nor were the folks on the other end of tech support. But 
that's OK, I can experiment.

At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the 
size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and 
there are four Ethernet ports available. Tech support says that only one 
is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any 
of them and get out. I've got four static IP addresses.

I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides 
is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?

So what do I do now? 

I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block 
everything but 80, for example.

I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having 
to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot 
of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.

So I could also plug a firewall into one of the cable modem ports, then 
a hub into the other side of the firewall, and plug boxen into the hub.

JUST CAN'T DECIDE!!

So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?

Whil


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[OT] Pull out all the stops today?

[Stephen Russell]

So will bin Laden surface in handcuffs today?

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer
 
Memphis TN 38115
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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Jim Felton]

I'm wonder how you are dealing with the two T1 lines and how many IPs you
had.  If you had 4 IPs why not do the same thing you are now?  A possible
solution would be to put 5 NICs in PC, Use 4 (100Mb) to attach to the RR and
the 5th (Gigabyte card) to attach to your Switch on your Intranet.  You can
run the firewall, active virus, ... on the PC and forward the unique IPs to
the system you want on you net.  This is basically a cheap multi port router
with all the options you want to load.  There are many free Linux router
packages out there that can even run from a floppy.

Jim

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Subject:[NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
behind it, let's leave that for another time. 

So now I've got some pretty basic questions I've been spoiled for so
long, with a pair of T1s coming into the house right next to this TW
line... Kind of like the frustration at having to deal with a dial-up. 

Anyways, the fellow who installed it wasn't terribly helpful (BIG
SURPRISE), nor were the folks on the other end of tech support. But
that's OK, I can experiment.

At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
there are four Ethernet ports available. Tech support says that only one
is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
of them and get out. I've got four static IP addresses.

I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?

So what do I do now? 

I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block
everything but 80, for example.

I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having
to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot
of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.

So I could also plug a firewall into one of the cable modem ports, then
a hub into the other side of the firewall, and plug boxen into the hub.

JUST CAN'T DECIDE!!

So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?

Whil


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Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[ed]

Virgil Bierschwale wrote ..

> I just formatted the drive on the spare computer, removed fedora and I'm
> in 
> the process of putting xp on it and thinking about vista on my laptop 
> (worried about quicken and zip forms)
> 
> My opinion of linux.
> Could be very nice, but you need to be a tinkerer and I don't want to spend
> time tinkering as I want to turn the key and run with it..
> 
> Final analysis, back to windows for me and linux isnt ready for the average
> user.

The problem wasn't Linux; it was the fact that I was changing several 
things at once, and when it didn't work, it was hard to figure out just where 
the problem was. I was also using several programs that were over 3 years old, 
since they were still working fine, and I have better things to do than tinker 
with my server all the time. 

The reason that the regular list worked and the tech list didn't was 
that there are several custom programs I wrote to do the filtering magic, and 
they relied on several external programs, one of which changed a setting name 
going from the old version I was using to the new version. In Windows, the 
equivalent would be calling a procedure in a DLL whose parameters changed from 
one version to the next.

-- Ed


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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

[Ricardo Aráoz]

El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 08:58, Pete Theisen escribió:
> Hi Ricardo!
>
> So there is some evidence but it is not enough to be "proof".

Well you sound like a lawyer. And I told you I was not one.

> Was your 
> wife's grandmother targeted or was she just at the wrong place at the wrong
> time?

Her daughter had dated a communist ('dated' she had no political affiliation). 
So she and her mother were 'sucked in'.
Do you think that if a person is at ' the wrong place at the wrong time' then 
those who harm her (or those who design the policies that harm her) have  any 
kind of excuse?

>
> I thought that all the governments in Latin America were dictatorships from
> the dawn of their history and the revolutions are just a changing of the
> dictator. Is this not the case?

Not really. My country has been able to keep it's democracy since 1983, 
coincidentally with Washington's lack of interest in its 'backyard'. Most 
dictatorships in South America were backed by Washington. May I remind you of 
Somoza and quote one of your president's "He's a son of a bitch, but he's OUR 
son of a bitch".

I've been answering some questions you had about the issue. Now let me ask you 
some.
Do you think that the fact that there is worldwide suspicion and dislike of 
USA is because the whole world is wrong? Or envious? Or do you think USA's 
external politics have something to do with it?



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Re: FPW fast machine patch.

[Malcolm Greene]

Dave,

Have you tried using the FC (file compare) command line utility that
ships with Windows? It works like this:

FC file1 file2

I use this utility to verify that 2 files are the same or different. The
difference output is worthless, but if you just need a binary answer,
then this utility can help you confirm whether you're actually patching
your executable or not.

Malcolm


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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[mrgmhale]

Good Day, Whil!

Out here in the Upstate NY/Rochester/Geneva area I have seen Time
Warner/RoadRunner move to a combo Cable Modem/Router (often with WiFi) unit
for both business class and residential use.  These units can be configured
as "Pass Through" devices where you end up with a WAN IP popping out of the
LAN side, which requires you to use your own firewall, or as a Router where
the LAN side pops out with a 192.168.1.nnn IP at all the LAN ports (and WiFi
if that is turned on).  For my clients I have always opted for the Pass
Through configuration as their SonicWall firewalls are set up for incoming
VPN use.  For home users that are friends I have no problem with them using
the Router configuration and saving a few bucks by not having to go out and
buy a separate Router of their own.  If the home users need a VPN to match a
remote location I will go with Pass Through, then place a firewall with VPN
behind the RR unit.

So, how do you tell if you have the Pass Through (sometimes called
"transparent mode") or Router configuration?  From what I have seen the
Router config is the default setup.  One has to request the Pass Through
configuration, then hope the RR folks know what the hell is meant by that.
If the IP coming out the LAN ports (4 ports you mentioned coming out of the
6 playing card deck size box) are 192.168.1.nnn, then you have the Router
setup, which is okay unless you need an incoming VPN based on your own
firewall settings.  In the case where you have the Router config the RR Tech
Rep was somewhat correct in saying you only have one active IP, as he likely
means (whether he knows it or not) you have only one WAN/Public IP.  If you
paid more for a static IP, than that is the static IP assigned to your unit
on the WAN/Public side of the box.  You can get multiple WAN IPs, static or
dynamic, for real reasonable (no longer $50 each, now down to $10 each, per
month of course).

If the 4 ports are popping out something other than 192.168.nnn.nnn, then
your unit is set up as Pass Through.  If indeed you have 4 separate IPs in
the non-192.168.nnn.nnn range then you have 4 WAN/Public IPs, whether static
or not.  If you did not request multiple WAN IPs this is an unlikely
scenario.

Now, for the $1,000 question...  If you connect to one of the 4 ports with a
PC, is it auto-assigning (DHCP) an IP to your PCs?  Or do you have to set up
each PC with a static IP (which you can do with a DHCP system anyway)?  This
is more a question out of curiosity than anything else.  I have only seen
DHCP configurations on the LAN ports with the new RR Cable Modem/Router
units.  You can still use static LAN IPs for your PCs with a DHCP unit.  The
advantage I see with DHCP is if the DNS Server IPs ever change, the PCs' DNS
address is updated upon IP resetting/rebooting.

But wait, there is more!  If you are hosting web/eMail/ftp,etc. Servers, and
have been using your own firewalls to manage all that, then you need to have
the RR unit set up as a Pass Through configuration.  That way your
firewall(s) manage which ports are allowing Port Forwarding or DMZ
management with your Servers.  If you try to do that behind the RR unit in
Router configuration you will have a real good time trying to get it
configured properly.  For me, I prefer the Pass Through config, then use my
own equipment to manage the signal processing.

I hope that helps ...


Regards,

Gil



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?
>
>
> I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
> behind it, let's leave that for another time. 
>
> So now I've got some pretty basic questions I've been spoiled for so
> long, with a pair of T1s coming into the house right next to this TW
> line... Kind of like the frustration at having to deal with a dial-up. 
>
> Anyways, the fellow who installed it wasn't terribly helpful (BIG
> SURPRISE), nor were the folks on the other end of tech support. But
> that's OK, I can experiment.
>
> At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
> size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
> there are four Ethernet ports available. Tech support says that only one
> is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
> of them and get out. I've got four static IP addresses.
>
> I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
> is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?
>
> So what do I do now? 
>
> I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block
> everything but 80, for example.
>
> I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having
> to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot
> of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.
>
> So I cou

RE: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[mrgmhale]

>   The problem wasn't Linux; it was the fact that I was changing several
things at once, and when it didn't work, it was hard to figure out just
where the problem was.

heh-heh.  One has to admire it when a person knowing better than to try
multiple changes at the same time tries it anyway ...  Even more so when
he/she "stays the course" and plows through all adversity, eventually ending
up where he/she wanted to be in the first place.  Personally, I do not think
I would have had the gonads to pull off what Ed just managed to get through
on-the-fly with live equipment.  Ed called me last night, and shared his
harrowing tales of challenging moments (days).  Persistence counts, but when
it comes with the desired end result, it counts really big.

If anyone in our group is considering moving from Red Hat to Ubuntu, I am
certain Ed would be willing to share his hard learned lessons (for a nominal
fee, of course .  Seriously, I would not attempt it without chatting with
someone who did it successfully first.

A sincere Thank You to Ed for his efforts.  And for getting ProFox back up,
of course!


Gil

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> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test
>
>
> Virgil Bierschwale wrote ..
>
> > I just formatted the drive on the spare computer, removed fedora and I'm
> > in
> > the process of putting xp on it and thinking about vista on my laptop
> > (worried about quicken and zip forms)
> >
> > My opinion of linux.
> > Could be very nice, but you need to be a tinkerer and I don't
> want to spend
> > time tinkering as I want to turn the key and run with it..
> >
> > Final analysis, back to windows for me and linux isnt ready for
> the average
> > user.
>
>   The problem wasn't Linux; it was the fact that I was
> changing several things at once, and when it didn't work, it was
> hard to figure out just where the problem was. I was also using
> several programs that were over 3 years old, since they were
> still working fine, and I have better things to do than tinker
> with my server all the time.
>
>   The reason that the regular list worked and the tech list
> didn't was that there are several custom programs I wrote to do
> the filtering magic, and they relied on several external
> programs, one of which changed a setting name going from the old
> version I was using to the new version. In Windows, the
> equivalent would be calling a procedure in a DLL whose parameters
> changed from one version to the next.
>
> -- Ed
>
>
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RE: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Wasn't talking about you ed as you do a very good job tinkering with
software.

Was referring to a conversation we all had a long time ago about linux being
ready for the desktop or home computer.

I'd never tried it till the last few weeks, so I gave my opinion.


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Virgil Bierschwale wrote ..

> I just formatted the drive on the spare computer, removed fedora and I'm
> in 
> the process of putting xp on it and thinking about vista on my laptop 
> (worried about quicken and zip forms)
> 
> My opinion of linux.
> Could be very nice, but you need to be a tinkerer and I don't want to
spend
> time tinkering as I want to turn the key and run with it..
> 
> Final analysis, back to windows for me and linux isnt ready for the
average
> user.

The problem wasn't Linux; it was the fact that I was changing
several things at once, and when it didn't work, it was hard to figure out
just where the problem was. I was also using several programs that were over
3 years old, since they were still working fine, and I have better things to
do than tinker with my server all the time. 

The reason that the regular list worked and the tech list didn't was
that there are several custom programs I wrote to do the filtering magic,
and they relied on several external programs, one of which changed a setting
name going from the old version I was using to the new version. In Windows,
the equivalent would be calling a procedure in a DLL whose parameters
changed from one version to the next.

-- Ed


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RE: [ADMIN] Test of ProFoxTech

[Wolfe, Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI]

I received it 5 by 5 ...

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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:27 PM
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I thought that the lists were working OK, but I just found out
that no 
one on the profoxtech list was getting mail. Can at least on PFT 
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RE: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

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Still receiving ...

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still testing...

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Re: [OT] Pull out all the stops today?

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 7:19 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

> So will bin Laden surface in handcuffs today?

Nah, they would have done that over the weekend. And it wouldn't  
have been in handcuffs; they'd have his head on a pike.

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[NF] Working with MHT files

[Malcolm Greene]

Anyone have any real world experience in working with MHT files? What
I'm looking for is a list of unexpected 'gotchas' that you ran into when
using this file format. 

The only problem I've found so far is that some email systems may block
MHT file attachments. The workaround is to zip MHT files before
distributing as an attachment.

Motivation: 

I'm thinking of using the MHT file format to distribute reports with
lots of images (screenshots).

Background:

The MHT file format allows you to pack all files related to one or more
HTML files into a single binary file for ease of transmission. Many
Microsoft products and some open source products (Firebird?) allow you
to create and/or open MHT files. 

The MHT file format is actually a RFC standard.
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2557.txt

Martin Haluza's XFRX report library for VFP (www.eqeus.com) has an
option for generating MHT files.

Thanks for your feedback,

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RE: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Tristan Leask]

The only major thing I had with this was the problem of when the user
then wants to print the file.  Due to issues with how different
browsers/viewers do their printing, you may find that the end results
can be a bit all over the place.  In the end, we moved from MHT
attachments to PDF.

Tristan

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The only problem I've found so far is that some email systems may block
MHT file attachments. The workaround is to zip MHT files before
distributing as an attachment.


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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

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Malcolm Greene wrote:
> Anyone have any real world experience in working with MHT files? What
> I'm looking for is a list of unexpected 'gotchas' that you ran into when
> using this file format. 
> 
>
>   

Thanks for the post, Malcolm...no comments other than "I've never heard 
of MHT format before."  ;-)  PDF seems to be the defacto standard that 
pretty much ensures print output consistency, right?

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Re: [ADMIN] First test

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 6, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Eugene Vital wrote:

> What are you using for spam filtering Ed?  We are currently using Spam
> Assassin on the server but I am not very happy with the results, we
> still get a ton of spam that gets through.

I use SpamBayes. Since spammers keep changing their tactics, you  
have to train it with any new spam that gets through, but I've  
automated that pretty much, and it isn't hard to keep current.

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Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 7:58 AM, mrgmhale wrote:

> heh-heh.  One has to admire it when a person knowing better than to  
> try
> multiple changes at the same time tries it anyway ...

Well, ideally I would have a test server that I could use to  
practice on, and then do the real thing, but...

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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Tracy Pearson]

I use a simple router (i.e. LinkSys; D-Link)
I find it does not properly handle DNS and was constantly getting timeouts.
Having just 2 boxes it was easily configured manually.

Were I to have more boxes, I would use a dedicated firewall/dhcp Linux
distro I could configure as needed.

Running a business I would investigate a larger dedicated system (i.e. Sonic
Wall; Panda GateDefender) Some of these products allow for fallback
connections to the internet.
http://www.sonicwall.com/
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/Gatedefender_Integra.htm

Tracy

> -Original Message-
> From: Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
>
> So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?
>
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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
> behind it, let's leave that for another time. 
>

So, you've bought a new connection, and you're not going to tell us
why, or what you plan to use it for, but now you want us to explain to
you how to set it up?

> At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
> size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
> there are four Ethernet ports available.

Does the box have a name, or writing on the outside that tells us the
manufacturer or the model number? Using that information, we can
probably find the manual on-line and figure out what the capabilities
of the device are. For now, let's call it "the router."

> Tech support says that only one
> is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
> of them and get out.
>

Tech support may not know what you were provisioned.

> I've got four static IP addresses.

Is that what you ordered, or have you confirmed that's what you have?
How did you determine that?

Since you can plug a box in and get to the internet, what IP address
do you get? That's likely showing you that the box is handing out IP
addresses, using DHCP, and it's likely the addresses are non-routeable
(192.168.*.* or 10.0.0.*) and the box is using NAT and perhaps doing
some firewalling. But you tell us: what's the output of ifconfig and
route?

> I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
> is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?
>

No, it's more likely a cablemodem-router combination. The modem
converts the electrical signal on the cable to Ethernet. The router
side of the box routes the Ethernet from the modem to each of the four
ports. Depending on the smarts of the device, it may be able to
allocate one IP address to each port or do even fancier stuff. It may
also include a firewall, NAT, DHCP, DNS, logging, content blocking,
VPN support and lots of other stuff.

> So what do I do now? 

What is it you want to do? Do you have specific plans for what you
want to do with the different IP addresses?

> I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block
> everything but 80, for example.
>
> I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having
> to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot
> of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.
>

All of the IP addresses can pass over the same physical wire, so the
question is what you want to do with them. If the four IP addresses
are to go to different devices, they need to be routed, either using
the firmware in the device you have (the router) or by adding another
device inline. OTOH, if you just bought the four IP addresses so you
could have four separate SSL-supporting domains on the same web
server, you can send all of the packets there over one wire. Or... you
might want to do something else. You'll need to tell us what you plan.

> So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?

I've got one static IP on which I host a few domains and maintain some
externally accessible services (ftp, ssh, subversion). I can (and
usually do ) keep that side of the network separate from the other
line coming in, a higher-speed but dynamic IP, on which we have the
office. Separate firewalls, separate routers. The idea is that the
Internet-facing services could be exploited without affecting the
in-house resources, and it models what a lot of clients have: internal
office resources and an externally hosted web site (I'm just
self-hosting). It's overkill, but it's what I've ended up with, so
far.

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RE: FPW fast machine patch.

[Dave Crozier]

Thanks Malcolm,
I'll have a look at before and after, and Peter, thanks for the help. I
remember something about the upgrade from 2.6 standard to 2.6a which I think
was also known as the "Golden version" and I think that is where I may be
going wrong as I don’t think the initial upgrade to 2.6a has worked - hence
the patch will have no effect as it looks for a specific version.

Dave Crozier
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Subject: Re: FPW fast machine patch.

Dave,

Have you tried using the FC (file compare) command line utility that ships
with Windows? It works like this:

FC file1 file2

I use this utility to verify that 2 files are the same or different. The
difference output is worthless, but if you just need a binary answer, then
this utility can help you confirm whether you're actually patching your
executable or not.

Malcolm


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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Jim Felton wrote:
> I'm wonder how you are dealing with the two T1 lines and how many IPs you
> had.  

I have a big ol' SonicWall sitting between me and the bad guys on each 
of my T1s. It's OK, although I don't care for their nickel and dime 
attitude every time you want to push another button on their interface. 
For industrial use the $110 a year is OK, I guess.

If you had 4 IPs why not do the same thing you are now?  A possible
> solution would be to put 5 NICs in PC, Use 4 (100Mb) to attach to the RR and

Well, I'm trying to learn something new is one big reason. Another is 
that I'm considering dumping the T1s to see if I can live on much less 
expensive BizClass lines. (Oh, shit, I bet Big Brother just saw that and 
I'm going to get a call from My Friendly AT&T rep any moment now... 
kinda like the way IBM would strongarm you if they heard you were 
considering Someone Else's computer back in the 6/7/80s.)

> the 5th (Gigabyte card) to attach to your Switch on your Intranet.  You can
> run the firewall, active virus, ... on the PC and forward the unique IPs to

But that means I need another PC. And four more cards. Suddenly we're 
talking a few hundred bucks. :)

And while I guess a lot of folks have oodles of old PCs laying around, 
I'm actually using all my old PCs. A four year old is VERY forgiving 
about performance if it means he's got his OWN computer. :)

(Running SuSE 10.1, by the way, sorry to burst your bubble, Virgil. :))

> the system you want on you net.  This is basically a cheap multi port router
> with all the options you want to load.  There are many free Linux router
> packages out there that can even run from a floppy.

But the bottom line is what you're saying is to configure a PC as a 
router/firewall. Yup, that's one possibility Let's see what else 
folks have to say. I see that Gil has a message that's going to take me 
most of the day to digest. 

Whil

> Jim
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf
> Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:57 AM
> To:   profox@leafe.com
> Subject:  [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?
> 
> I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
> behind it, let's leave that for another time. 
> 
> So now I've got some pretty basic questions I've been spoiled for so
> long, with a pair of T1s coming into the house right next to this TW
> line... Kind of like the frustration at having to deal with a dial-up. 
> 
> Anyways, the fellow who installed it wasn't terribly helpful (BIG
> SURPRISE), nor were the folks on the other end of tech support. But
> that's OK, I can experiment.
> 
> At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
> size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
> there are four Ethernet ports available. Tech support says that only one
> is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
> of them and get out. I've got four static IP addresses.
> 
> I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
> is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?
> 
> So what do I do now? 
> 
> I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block
> everything but 80, for example.
> 
> I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having
> to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot
> of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.
> 
> So I could also plug a firewall into one of the cable modem ports, then
> a hub into the other side of the firewall, and plug boxen into the hub.
> 
> JUST CAN'T DECIDE!!
> 
> So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?
> 
> Whil
> 
> 
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Re: FPW fast machine patch.

[Peter Cushing]

Dave Crozier wrote:
> which I think
> was also known as the "Golden version" 
Didn't he play for Everton in the sixties/seventies ;-)

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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[mrgmhale]

> I see that Gil has a message that's going to take me
most of the day to digest. 


Yep, I figured if you had time enough to mess around with trying new things
out you may as well have something to idle time away when you start to bang
your head against the wall.

As an aside, I use a SonicWall Pro 200, and most of my clients use SonicWall
for their firewall/VPN solution (largely at my recommendation).  I like
SonicWalls for lots of reasons, mainly because they offer so much bang for
less bucks than Cisco.  If you have 2 SonicWall units (if I read your eMail
correctly re: one behind each T1), with a single WAN port you can use one as
a failover for the other.  I have that set up at one client location, and it
works real slick.  It was a little tricky to set up, until I read the F'ing
manual .  But once set it works like a charm.

Ciao!

Gil

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?
>
>
> Jim Felton wrote:
> > I'm wonder how you are dealing with the two T1 lines and how
> many IPs you
> > had.
>
> I have a big ol' SonicWall sitting between me and the bad guys on each
> of my T1s. It's OK, although I don't care for their nickel and dime
> attitude every time you want to push another button on their interface.
> For industrial use the $110 a year is OK, I guess.
>
> If you had 4 IPs why not do the same thing you are now?  A possible
> > solution would be to put 5 NICs in PC, Use 4 (100Mb) to attach
> to the RR and
>
> Well, I'm trying to learn something new is one big reason. Another is
> that I'm considering dumping the T1s to see if I can live on much less
> expensive BizClass lines. (Oh, shit, I bet Big Brother just saw that and
> I'm going to get a call from My Friendly AT&T rep any moment now...
> kinda like the way IBM would strongarm you if they heard you were
> considering Someone Else's computer back in the 6/7/80s.)
>
> > the 5th (Gigabyte card) to attach to your Switch on your
> Intranet.  You can
> > run the firewall, active virus, ... on the PC and forward the
> unique IPs to
>
> But that means I need another PC. And four more cards. Suddenly we're
> talking a few hundred bucks. :)
>
> And while I guess a lot of folks have oodles of old PCs laying around,
> I'm actually using all my old PCs. A four year old is VERY forgiving
> about performance if it means he's got his OWN computer. :)
>
> (Running SuSE 10.1, by the way, sorry to burst your bubble, Virgil. :))
>
> > the system you want on you net.  This is basically a cheap
> multi port router
> > with all the options you want to load.  There are many free Linux router
> > packages out there that can even run from a floppy.
>
> But the bottom line is what you're saying is to configure a PC as a
> router/firewall. Yup, that's one possibility Let's see what else
> folks have to say. I see that Gil has a message that's going to take me
> most of the day to digest. 
>
> Whil
>
> > Jim
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf
> Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:57 AM
> To:   profox@leafe.com
> Subject:  [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?
>
> I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
> behind it, let's leave that for another time. 
>
> So now I've got some pretty basic questions I've been spoiled for so
> long, with a pair of T1s coming into the house right next to this TW
> line... Kind of like the frustration at having to deal with a dial-up. 
>
> Anyways, the fellow who installed it wasn't terribly helpful (BIG
> SURPRISE), nor were the folks on the other end of tech support. But
> that's OK, I can experiment.
>
> At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
> size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
> there are four Ethernet ports available. Tech support says that only one
> is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
> of them and get out. I've got four static IP addresses.
>
> I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
> is access outside. No firewall, no nothing, right?
>
> So what do I do now? 
>
> I could hook up a single box that's running a firewall as well. Block
> everything but 80, for example.
>
> I could hook up four boxes, too. But I'm not sure I'm comfortable having
> to mess with four firewalls on four boxes; that begins to become a lot
> of admin that I should be able to handle in a central point.
>
> So I could also plug a firewall into one of the cable modem ports, then
> a hub into the other side of the firewall, and plug boxen into the hub.
>
> JUST CAN'T DECIDE!!
>
> So what are y'all doing with a setup like this?
>
> Whil
>
>
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[NF] Is a Cable Modem Really a Modem?

[Hal Kaplan]

The term "modem" is a combination of two words: MOdulate and DEModulate.
This goes back to the days when all communication lines were analog and
the digital computer signal had to be MOdulated to convert it to analog
and then DEModulated to convert it back to digital.

Then came digital, broadband, "cable."  Whatever you want to call it
(but not T-1 or any of its flavors).  And the cable comes into your
premises, connects to a box, and from that box a CAT-5 or USB cable is
connected to a router or NIC.  That box is called a Cable Modem.

So is it really a modem?  Does it actually MOdulate and DEModulate?  Or
is it more like a CSU (Channel Select Unit)?  Or what???  

I think that Modem is a misnomer because the input and output signals
are both digital.  Am I wrong?

TIA!

HALinNY


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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Malcolm Greene wrote:
>> Anyone have any real world experience in working with MHT files? What
>> I'm looking for is a list of unexpected 'gotchas' that you ran into when
>> using this file format. 
>> 
>>
>>   
> 
> Thanks for the post, Malcolm...no comments other than "I've never heard 
> of MHT format before."  ;-)  PDF seems to be the defacto standard that 
> pretty much ensures print output consistency, right?

Try clicking on File | Save Page As... one of the options in IE is an 
MHT. Firefox does a "Web page, complete" but I don't think it creates an 
MHT.

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Re: [NF] Is a Cable Modem Really a Modem?

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

> So is it really a modem?  Does it actually MOdulate and  
> DEModulate?  Or
> is it more like a CSU (Channel Select Unit)?  Or what???

According to Wikipedia, yes, it's a modem:




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Re: [NF] Is a Cable Modem Really a Modem?

[Michael Hawksworth]

That's fussy but it is more like a Modem come Stat-Mux that ISDN type 
tecnologies.  Afterall coax transfer is as a wave not a pulse.

But does it matter?

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RE: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Andy Davies]

Virgil Bierschwale  said:
...about linux being ready for the desktop or home computer.
I'd never tried it till the last few weeks, so I gave my opinion.

I have no comments about linux for the desktop per se - but is a few weeks
long enough to form a good opinion? - how long did it take, over the years,
to get used to Windows? (I know I continued to prefer dos for *years* after
I started with Win).


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Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

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On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Andy Davies wrote:

> I have no comments about linux for the desktop per se - but is a  
> few weeks
> long enough to form a good opinion? - how long did it take, over  
> the years,
> to get used to Windows? (I know I continued to prefer dos for  
> *years* after
> I started with Win).

I've heard similar experiences from others whose offices 'upgraded'  
from Win98/2000 to XP. They couldn't find where things were; they  
were confused by those messages that started popping up...

*Any* change in what you are used to takes some adjustment.

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[NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

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Got this today:

http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/narc_on_piracy.pdf

I'd bet that disgruntled and/or ex-employees would be the ones to blow 
the whistle!  But how many reports are truly legit versus someone just 
trying to make problems for a company?  Things that make you go 
"h."  ;-)

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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I've just acquired a line with Time-Warner BizClass. The rationale
>> behind it, let's leave that for another time. 
>>
> 
> So, you've bought a new connection, and you're not going to tell us
> why, 

I didn't say I "bought" it. And I didn't say I wasn't going to to tell 
you why, just not NOW. Stop putting words in my mouth. I already have a 
wife. 

or what you plan to use it for, but now you want us to explain to
> you how to set it up?

As Ethan Hunt says in MI, "It's much worse than that."

Actually, there are two reasons...

First, remember the scene in Cheers where Sam is making mistakes 
ordering things, and one day, a delivery guy drops off a stack of 2x4s, 
a dozen bags of concrete, and a wheelbarrow? Woody bids the guy goodbye 
after the requisite spirited exchange, then closes the door, looks at 
all this stuff in the middle of the bar floor, and says, "Well, now 
the only question left is... what am I going to build?"

Same thing here - I have a line. What might I do with it?

Second, I didn't want to predispose the answers. It's a long held truth 
that in survey taking, you first ask, "Tell us everything you liked 
about X." followed by "Tell us everything you disliked about X." Instead 
of "Please rate the following nine items on a scale of 1 to 5." If you 
provide stock answers, you automatically narrow down the answers you're 
going to get, without necessarily meaning to.

So instead of leading people to the answers I wanted them to provide, I 
wanted a wide open field.

Third, I do not know. I might use this as a spare access line in the 
event that the T1 goes down. I might use it as my main access line, 
ridding the T1 when contract time comes up. I might use it as a test 
line. I might move my T1 hosting to this line. I might decide it's a 
piece o' crap and get rid of it. I do not know. I was looking for a 
variety of possibilities. :)

So there are my two reasons. 

>> At the end of the line coming in from out-of-doors, there's a box the
>> size of maybe six decks of playing cards. The line goes into it, and
>> there are four Ethernet ports available.
> 
> Does the box have a name, or writing on the outside that tells us the
> manufacturer or the model number? Using that information, we can
> probably find the manual on-line and figure out what the capabilities
> of the device are. For now, let's call it "the router."

It's grey. Does that help?

Well, actually, it's a dark grey. Almost a dull black.

Shiny on the front, too.

Seriously, the box has NO markings, numbers, any ID whatsoever on it. 
It's small, grey, has six holes on the back (power, 4xEth, USB). Four 
stickers on the bottom that say "Cable RF Mac Add 20957297348" and a 
fifth that says that Time Warner will throw me in jail and pull out my 
fingernails if I even think about screwing with the box.

Hence my confusion.

And I like my fingernails.

>> Tech support says that only one
>> is active, but I don't quite believe him, as I can plug a box into any
>> of them and get out.
> 
> Tech support may not know what you were provisioned.

Then they're not actually 'tech support', right? I did have to give them 
my account number, and they were able to tell me what my reverse DNS 
was. I'm expecting that they should know what they delivered to me, else 
what support are they going to be able to provide. Refer to previous 
email re MSFT vs Leafe tech support. 

>> I've got four static IP addresses.
> 
> Is that what you ordered, or have you confirmed that's what you have?
> How did you determine that?

Well, cuz that's what I ordered, and I done went ahead and believed 
them. The bastards! Oh, I feel like such a foole!

Oh, I also plugged a machine in, popped in my static IPs (below), and 
verified that all four do get out to the Web, and report back via 
www.myipaddress.com. I have a Web server on one of the IPs, and can 
http:/1.2.3.4 to the server from 1.2.3.5 successfully.

> Since you can plug a box in and get to the internet, what IP address
> do you get? That's likely showing you that the box is handing out IP
> addresses, using DHCP, and it's likely the addresses are non-routeable
> (192.168.*.* or 10.0.0.*) and the box is using NAT and perhaps doing
> some firewalling. But you tell us: what's the output of ifconfig and
> route?

I have a block of 4 IPs, 1.2.3.4 through 1.2.3.7. (I think that's four, 
right?) I lack the self-confidence that many of you have in trusting 
your HCPs to Mr. Dynamic, and so always statically assign IPs to boxen. 
So I entered 1.2.3.4 into my static IP for a test box. 
www.myipaddress.com says I'm on 1.2.3.4. If I do that for 1.2.3.7, I get 
a similar, warm and fuzzy response.

So I that's why I think I'm just getting access to the outside, and my 
PC needs to provide a firewall - or I need to do 'something else'.

>> I'm guessing this box-like thingee is a 'cable modem'. All it provides
>> is access o

Re: [NF] Is a Cable Modem Really a Modem?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Hal Kaplan wrote:
> The term "modem" is a combination of two words: MOdulate and DEModulate.
> This goes back to the days when all communication lines were analog and
> the digital computer signal had to be MOdulated to convert it to analog
> and then DEModulated to convert it back to digital.

All I know is that when customers ask me to modem them some files, I'm 
more than happy to do so.

I don't tell them that I'm actually teeoneing them their files. Unless 
they look at the headers, they'll never be the wiser.

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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Malcolm Greene wrote:
> Anyone have any real world experience in working with MHT files? What
> I'm looking for is a list of unexpected 'gotchas' that you ran into when
> using this file format. 

I have a few older MHT files (circa 2001-3?) that I've assumed are now 
pretty worthless because Firefox won't open them. It may be a versioning 
problem; I haven't tried for a year or two, as I learned once that they 
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Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Andy Davies wrote:
> Virgil Bierschwale  said:
> ...about linux being ready for the desktop or home computer.
> I'd never tried it till the last few weeks, so I gave my opinion.
> 
> I have no comments about linux for the desktop per se - but is a few weeks
> long enough to form a good opinion? - how long did it take, over the years,
> to get used to Windows? (I know I continued to prefer dos for *years* after
> I started with Win).

I completely agree. I put a Linux box on my desk in... 2002? And relied 
on my Windows box for years... but gradually I got used to doing more 
and more on the other box.

Just because you're fluent in English, Canadian, and American doesn't 
mean you'll pick up Australian immediately. It'll take time.

Ooops, wrong analogy.

But my kids, 4, 6, 10, 14, 18, all use Linux boxes as their day to day 
computers. Email, browsing, games, office, music, drawing they do 
their schoolwork on SuSE, Mandrake and Fedora boxes and have never had a 
problem, except for the occasional recalcitrant floppy.

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[OT] SOSDD

[Russell Stephen]

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[OT] Anyone else feel this way?

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RE: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> But my kids, 4, 6, 10, 14, 18, all use Linux boxes as their 
=> day to day computers. Email, browsing, games, office, music, 
=> drawing they do their schoolwork on SuSE, Mandrake and 
=> Fedora boxes and have never had a problem, except for the 
=> occasional recalcitrant floppy.
=> 
=> Whil
=> 

Whil, don't let those recalcitrant floppies get you down.  The are probably 
suffering from iron-deficiency-anemia.  Give them Geritol® and they will be up 
and spinning within days.

And Whil, no need to thank me.  I'm just glad I was able to help.

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RE: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> Got this today:
=> 
=> http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/narc_on_piracy.pdf
=> 
=> I'd bet that disgruntled and/or ex-employees would be the 
=> ones to blow the whistle!  But how many reports are truly 
=> legit versus someone just trying to make problems for a 
=> company?  Things that make you go "h."  ;-)
=> 
=> Michael J. Babcock, MCP

My guess is that there are more legitimate reports than false ones.  I have 
never been to a site that is 100% "legal" and often it is the cheapest software 
that is violated.  But a violation is a violation and if someone wants to make 
trouble, BSA is there to lend a helping hand.

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Re: [ADMIN] Yet another tech test

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Hal Kaplan wrote:
> => 
> => But my kids, 4, 6, 10, 14, 18, all use Linux boxes as their 
> => day to day computers. Email, browsing, games, office, music, 
> => drawing they do their schoolwork on SuSE, Mandrake and 
> => Fedora boxes and have never had a problem, except for the 
> => occasional recalcitrant floppy.
> => 
> => Whil
> => 
> 
> Whil, don't let those recalcitrant floppies get you down.  The are probably 
> suffering from iron-deficiency-anemia.  Give them Geritol® and they will be 
> up and spinning within days.
> 
> And Whil, no need to thank me.  I'm just glad I was able to help.

I wasn't about to thank you. As the saying goes, "I'm not the one who is 
suffering..." But you may well get a card or a box o' chocolates from my 
wife. She thanks you from the bottom of her RAM.

Whil


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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[MB Software Solutions]

Hal Kaplan wrote:
> My guess is that there are more legitimate reports than false ones.  I have 
> never been to a site that is 100% "legal" and often it is the cheapest 
> software that is violated.  But a violation is a violation and if someone 
> wants to make trouble, BSA is there to lend a helping hand.
>
>
>   
The heavy hand of "The Man."  


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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK, you got me. "I don't know."
>

Ah! So, now we have an answer: NULL. I like that a lot better than
EMPTY() or BLANK.

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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2. I could ignore three of the Eth ports, plug a firewall into the
> fourth, and then plug the other end of the firewall into a
> router/switch/hub/xmas tree, and then hook my four PCs into
> aforementioned router/switch/hub. I could go past four PCs if I wanted
> to NAT on one of the four static IPs, of course, like I do with my T1 now.
>

That would be my recommendation.

> Conclusion: I think Door #2 is where I'm headed, but I'm still open to
> other ideas.

I'm wondering what's behind the curtain where Carol Merrill is standing.

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[NF] A new cover for Whil's book on Geeks and Stupid Users

[Russell Stephen]

Past the days of "I'm a computer scientist" a new collection of images.



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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, you got me. "I don't know."
>>
> 
> Ah! So, now we have an answer: NULL. I like that a lot better than
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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Ted Roche wrote:
> On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2. I could ignore three of the Eth ports, plug a firewall into the
>> fourth, and then plug the other end of the firewall into a
>> router/switch/hub/xmas tree, and then hook my four PCs into
>> aforementioned router/switch/hub. I could go past four PCs if I wanted
>> to NAT on one of the four static IPs, of course, like I do with my T1 now.
>>
> 
> That would be my recommendation.
> 
>> Conclusion: I think Door #2 is where I'm headed, but I'm still open to
>> other ideas.
> 
> I'm wondering what's behind the curtain where Carol Merrill is standing.

There's a curtain there? All I saw was Carol.

BTW, CM is from Frederic, WI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederic,_Wisconsin

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VFP web services

[Allen Pollard]

Hi foxgang
Are there any books on web services / soap with VFP. Including what to do
when it fails (as it seems to)
Allen

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Re: [OT] Pull out all the stops today?

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:19, Stephen Russell wrote:

Hi Stephen!

They have the press conference scheduled for 4 PM eastern. They have been 
planting lice in his beard for three weeks, he should outdo Saddie.

> So will bin Laden surface in handcuffs today?
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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Dave Thayer]

On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a few older MHT files (circa 2001-3?) that I've assumed are now
> pretty worthless because Firefox won't open them. It may be a versioning
> problem; I haven't tried for a year or two, as I learned once that they
> wouldn't open, so never tried again.

The Mozilla Archive Format plugin  will read and write MHT.  See
.

Unfortunately, it hasn't been updated for FF2.0, but there are reports
in the forum that it can be force-installed and still work.

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Re: VFP web services

[Brian Abbott]

Allen

Rick Strahl has some good stuff on his website.

What sorts of failure are you getting?  It's reliable enough for us.

Allen Pollard wrote:
> Hi foxgang
> Are there any books on web services / soap with VFP. Including what to do
> when it fails (as it seems to)
> Allen
> 

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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 07:34, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 08:58, Pete Theisen escribió:

Hi Ricardo!

> > So there is some evidence but it is not enough to be "proof".
>
> Well you sound like a lawyer. And I told you I was not one.

The press here reports in those terms, we get used to using that kind of 
language ourselves.

> > Was your
> > wife's grandmother targeted or was she just at the wrong place at the
> > wrong time?
>
> Her daughter had dated a communist ('dated' she had no political
> affiliation). So she and her mother were 'sucked in'.
> Do you think that if a person is at ' the wrong place at the wrong time'
> then those who harm her (or those who design the policies that harm her)
> have  any kind of excuse?

It more explains than excuses. "Collateral damage" idea. Only way to avoid it 
is not have your war or coup. Then the other guys get to be the dictators.
>
> > I thought that all the governments in Latin America were dictatorships
> > from the dawn of their history and the revolutions are just a changing of
> > the dictator. Is this not the case?
>
> Not really. My country has been able to keep it's democracy since 1983,
> coincidentally with Washington's lack of interest in its 'backyard'. Most
> dictatorships in South America were backed by Washington. May I remind you
> of Somoza and quote one of your president's "He's a son of a bitch, but
> he's OUR son of a bitch".

Is that an accurate description of Somoza?
>
> I've been answering some questions you had about the issue. Now let me ask
> you some.
> Do you think that the fact that there is worldwide suspicion and dislike of
> USA is because the whole world is wrong? Or envious?

Envious.
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RE: VFP web services

[Allen]

I only tried it a few times and it just did not work. And I didn’t know
anything, or at least enough to find out why. But thanks for the pointer, I
should have known Rick would have had something. I will try again (after the
Dallas trip next week) and ask again when I have the failure in front of me.
I do think it may be permissions but we shall see.
Allen 

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Allen

Rick Strahl has some good stuff on his website.

What sorts of failure are you getting?  It's reliable enough for us.

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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 09:41, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:


Hi Whil!

An old PC will do - even a 486, and the Linux ones can run off of a floppy.
>
> But that means I need another PC. And four more cards. Suddenly we're
> talking a few hundred bucks. :)

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Copying databases.

[Alan Bourke]

Say I have a 'template' database, consisting of a DBC and tables, and I
want to be able to programmatically copy that to a series of others.
What do people suggest tools-wise, free or otherwise?
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[OT] Chase fraud protection phone call-----from Manilla, Phillipines

[MB Software Solutions]

Got a call from the Chase Credit Card Fraud Protection unit (allegedly) 
on Sunday, asking me to verify purchases made in Minnesota for my credit 
card ending in 1234.  I checked my cards and told them that I don't have 
a card ending in that number sequence, and that of course the charges 
were bogus.

I wasn't comfortable with the fact that somebody in the Phillipines had 
access (supposedly) to all of my credit information.  Time to dump 
Chase, I guess.

Gr...f*cking outsourcing.


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Re: Copying databases.

[MB Software Solutions]

Alan Bourke wrote:
> Say I have a 'template' database, consisting of a DBC and tables, and I
> want to be able to programmatically copy that to a series of others.
> What do people suggest tools-wise, free or otherwise?
>   

Did you want to copy just structures or structures AND data?

SDT (Stonefield Database Toolkit) makes deploying databases super 
simple.  Check out stonefield.com.



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RE: [OT] Chase fraud protection phone call-----from Manilla, Phillipines

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> Got a call from the Chase Credit Card Fraud Protection unit 
=> (allegedly) on Sunday, asking me to verify purchases made in 
=> Minnesota for my credit card ending in 1234.  I checked my 
=> cards and told them that I don't have a card ending in that 
=> number sequence, and that of course the charges were bogus.
=> 
=> I wasn't comfortable with the fact that somebody in the 
=> Phillipines had access (supposedly) to all of my credit 
=> information.  Time to dump Chase, I guess.
=> 
=> Gr...f*cking outsourcing.
=> 

The most important thing to do in this type of situation is to put your mind at 
ease.  Did you call the number you have for Chase CRM and discuss this?  They 
are just as upset as you are by phishing exploits and the like.

I have found that the fraud police are usually spot on.  In one case, my wife 
ordered Speed Pass tags for both of us, using one of her existing charge 
accounts as the payment.  She gave me my tag and took the other one with her to 
Georgia.  She charged stuff in Georgia on the same account and when I tried to 
use the SpeedPass in New York ... BOING! No deal.  And the whole account was 
shut down for a couple of days.

HALinNY


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Re: VFP web services

[Andy Davies]

Give up Allen - not only do web services fail but xmlhttp (which *does*
work) is apparently the latest ie7 exploit so expect to see ms's 'fix' kill
that as well!

Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
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Hi foxgang
Are there any books on web services / soap with VFP. Including what to do
when it fails (as it seems to)
Allen

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Re: Copying databases.

[Andy Davies]

>What do people suggest

gendb[x] ??

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Re: [NF] Is a Cable Modem Really a Modem?

[Ray Heilman]

Twenty years ago, I used to teach "Introduction to Computers" at a training
company and gave just that explanation for what a modem is.  Just the other
day, a coworker brought up your very question.  Misnomer or not, I believe
that we are stuck with that name for, at least, until communication is
achieved through something other than a visible box.  Keep that in mind when
you are "dialing" your push button phone .

RayTheOtherRay <><

On 11/7/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The term "modem" is a combination of two words: MOdulate and DEModulate.
> This goes back to the days when all communication lines were analog and
> the digital computer signal had to be MOdulated to convert it to analog
> and then DEModulated to convert it back to digital.
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Re: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> BTW, CM is from Frederic, WI.
>

http://www.letsmakeadeal.com/carol.htm

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Re: [OT] Fat Lesbian comment gets radio host fired

[Michael Madigan]

Say it out loud I'm a fat Lesbo and I'm proud!




--- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 04 November 2006 00:55, Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> > Which part was untrue?  She's fat and she's a
> lesbo.
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/03/D8L5ODTO0.html
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> But Massachusetts may be the most liberal place in
> the world, Whole different 
> set of rules for Massachusetts, truth doesn't enter
> into rules.
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> 
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[OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

Senate

Republicans   50 seats
Democrats 48 Seats
Independents   2 Seats


House

Republicans  218 Seats
Democrats217 Seats

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Re: [OT] Chase fraud protection phone call-----from Manilla, Phillipines

[Pete Theisen]

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 12:59, MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Got a call from the Chase Credit Card Fraud Protection unit (allegedly)
> on Sunday, asking me to verify purchases made in Minnesota for my credit
> card ending in 1234.  I checked my cards and told them that I don't have
> a card ending in that number sequence, and that of course the charges
> were bogus.
>
> I wasn't comfortable with the fact that somebody in the Phillipines had
> access (supposedly) to all of my credit information.  Time to dump
> Chase, I guess.
>
> Gr...f*cking outsourcing.

Hi Michael!

Interesting that it was Minnesota. Someone wanted something from there from me 
as well. Patagonia (expensive cold weather outdoor wear), getting to be the 
season for that.

Now they think I am their customer and sent me their catalog. In Florida, 
gimme a break.
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Re: Typematic rate in List Box

[Nicholas Geti]

Wasn't it always true that the search takes place immediately for each 
keystroke? That's always what I found.

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> Hi all,
> What is the setting that controls how long VFP waits for you to key in
> the first several characters in a list box to navigate to the closest 
> match?
> I have an app that was working so that the user could type in 3 or 4 of
> the first characters before the list box adjusted down to the closest
> match. Now they have a newer, faster computer and it moves on the first
> character typed...
> T.I.A.
>
> Philip
>
>
>>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Pull out all the stops today?

[Michael Madigan]

He's working for the Democrats in Tennessee

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[OT] What a Day!

[Hal Kaplan]

I just stopped for a second here to catch my breath and check out wazzup
on this list.

I have been up since 4 AM voting.  New York State has 62 counties and
each one has a separate voters' canvas.  So it is quite easy to register
in all 62 counties with virtually no chance of anyone finding out.

I don't know how we did it, but we have already hit 58 counties and now
we are back on Long Island to hit the last four.  

I'm glad I didn't run in the marathon the other day because I don't
think I would have been able to do that and vote in every county.

G-d, I love this country.

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Re: [OT] What a Day!

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

> I don't know how we did it, but we have already hit 58 counties and  
> now
> we are back on Long Island to hit the last four.

And you didn't stop by when you were up here in Monroe County?

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Chet Gardiner]

I didn't know they were still making motorcycles...



MB Software Solutions wrote:

>Got this today:
>
>http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/narc_on_piracy.pdf
>
>I'd bet that disgruntled and/or ex-employees would be the ones to blow 
>the whistle!  But how many reports are truly legit versus someone just 
>trying to make problems for a company?  Things that make you go 
>"h."  ;-)
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RE: [OT] What a Day!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> > I don't know how we did it, but we have already hit 58 
=> counties and 
=> > now we are back on Long Island to hit the last four.
=> 
=>  And you didn't stop by when you were up here in Monroe County?
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe

I thought about it, Ed.  Honest!  But I knew you had the server problems and I 
had a really tight schedule and I wasn't sure if you would greet me with a shot 
of vodka or a shot from a gun blah blah blah.  

Maybe in two years it will be different.  We have to evaluate the trip metrics 
and see if we can improve our utilization factors.  I will let you know.

HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> I didn't know they were still making motorcycles...
=> 
=> 
=> 
=> MB Software Solutions wrote:
=> 
=> >Got this today:
=> >
=> >http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com/images/narc_on_piracy.pdf
=> >
=> >I'd bet that disgruntled and/or ex-employees would be the 
=> ones to blow 
=> >the whistle!  But how many reports are truly legit versus 
=> someone just 
=> >trying to make problems for a company?  Things that make you go 
=> >"h."  ;-)
=> >
=> >  

O.K. Chet.  I seem to be ignorant of the pertinence of your remark.  Care to 
explain, please?  TIA.

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Re: Typematic rate in List Box

[Richard Kaye]

IIRC it is the system double click setting.

Nicholas Geti wrote:
> Wasn't it always true that the search takes place immediately for each 
> keystroke? That's always what I found.
>   
>> Hi all,
>> What is the setting that controls how long VFP waits for you to key in
>> the first several characters in a list box to navigate to the closest 
>> match?
>> I have an app that was working so that the user could type in 3 or 4 of
>> the first characters before the list box adjusted down to the closest
>> match. Now they have a newer, faster computer and it moves on the first
>> character typed...
>> T.I.A.
>> 

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> O.K. Chet.  I seem to be ignorant of the pertinence of your remark.  Care to 
> explain, please?  TIA.
>
> HALinNY
>

http://www.bikez.com/brand/bsa_motorcycles.php

http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/

Some people.tsss

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Chet Gardiner]

Reaaal! :-)

C


Jean Laeremans wrote:

>On 11/8/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>O.K. Chet.  I seem to be ignorant of the pertinence of your remark.  Care to 
>>explain, please?  TIA.
>>
>>HALinNY
>>
>>
>>
>
>http://www.bikez.com/brand/bsa_motorcycles.php
>
>http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/
>
>Some people.tsss
>
>A+
>jml
>
>
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RE: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Hal Kaplan]

=> >
=> > O.K. Chet.  I seem to be ignorant of the pertinence of 
=> your remark.  Care to explain, please?  TIA.
=> >
=> > HALinNY
=> >
=> 
=> http://www.bikez.com/brand/bsa_motorcycles.php
=> 
=> http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/
=> 
=> Some people.tsss
=> 
=> A+
=> jml

Oh geez.  That motorcycle thing.  I thought they went out of business when they 
were sued by the original BSA, Boy Scouts of America.

Jean, do you have *any* idea of how to be gracious and/or magnanimous?  
Physician, heal thyself.

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Chet Gardiner]

Never had a Beezer but here are some of the ones I've owned:

This one's close to my 1964 T100:
http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Triumph%20Bikes/pages/Triumph-Tiger-100SS-64.htm

And my 1969 Bonny:
http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Triumph%20Bikes/pages/Triumph%20Bonneville%205.htm

Sort of close to my '66 Norton Scrambler:
http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Norton%20Bikes/pages/Norton%20650SS.htm

And my '75 Norton Commando MkIII (mine was black):
http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Norton%20Bikes/pages/Norton-Commando-Mk3-75.htm
   (Ahhh, John Lucas, the 'Prince of Darkness')

And my current bike - The '84 V65 Magna (mine's maroon):
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/V65magna.htm

Cheers;

Chet



Chet Gardiner wrote:

>Reaaal! :-)
>
>C
>
>
>Jean Laeremans wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On 11/8/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>O.K. Chet.  I seem to be ignorant of the pertinence of your remark.  Care to 
>>>explain, please?  TIA.
>>>
>>>HALinNY
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>http://www.bikez.com/brand/bsa_motorcycles.php
>>
>>http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/
>>
>>Some people.tsss
>>
>>A+
>>jml
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] What a Day!

[Michael Madigan]

Why did you stop at just NY?

--- Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just stopped for a second here to catch my breath
> and check out wazzup
> on this list.
> 
> I have been up since 4 AM voting.  New York State
> has 62 counties and
> each one has a separate voters' canvas.  So it is
> quite easy to register
> in all 62 counties with virtually no chance of
> anyone finding out.
> 
> I don't know how we did it, but we have already hit
> 58 counties and now
> we are back on Long Island to hit the last four.  
> 
> I'm glad I didn't run in the marathon the other day
> because I don't
> think I would have been able to do that and vote in
> every county.
> 
> G-d, I love this country.
> 
> HALinNY
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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Malcolm Greene]

Thanks for everyone's comments.

The reason I'm considering MHT files is because the output is mostly
visual - in my case screenshots - and is not designed to be printed. If
printed, these reports might burn an entire set of color inkjet
cartridges. :)

Malcolm


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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Malcolm Greene]

Whil,

I bet there's a FireFox plugin for MHT files. I haven't checked, but it
seems like there's a FireFox plugin for just about anything you can
imagine ... and additional things as well!

Malcolm


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Re: [NF] Working with MHT files

[Malcolm Greene]

> The Mozilla Archive Format plugin  will read and write MHT.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/212/

Thanks Dave!

Malcolm


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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

[Ricardo Aráoz]

El Martes 07 Noviembre 2006 15:34, Pete Theisen escribió:
> >
> > Well you sound like a lawyer. And I told you I was not one.
>
> The press here reports in those terms, we get used to using that kind of
> language ourselves.
>

You mean to tell me that you don't get a say in the language you use? That you 
will use the language of he who talks the most to you?
Interesting.

>
> It more explains than excuses. "Collateral damage" idea. 

Oh, I see. So you think that once you can put a fancy name to something then 
it's 'explained'. I once knew a rapist and child molester who said that the 
ruined psyches of the children he raped where 'collateral damage' from his 
passions. "Well in that case it's allright" everybody said, and let him go.

> Only way to avoid 
> it is not have your war or coup. Then the other guys get to be the
> dictators.

I can't follow you. The definition of these coups is that "the other guys" 
were legally and democratically elected governments. Whoever said they were 
dictators?
Only way to avoid this is : if you defend the law, then you should do 
so 'within' the law. If you defend democracy, then you should . but hey, 
maybe I'm boring you.

>> May I remind
> > you of Somoza and quote one of your president's "He's a son of a bitch,
> > but he's OUR son of a bitch".
>
> Is that an accurate description of Somoza?

Don't remember which of your presidents said the phrase. Maybe you should 
check your own country's history.

>
> > I've been answering some questions you had about the issue. Now let me
> > ask you some.
> > Do you think that the fact that there is worldwide suspicion and dislike
> > of USA is because the whole world is wrong? Or envious?
>
> Envious.

Yeah! I took a look at your picture, then thought what a nice and interesting 
job you have, then remembered you wise advice about women. And I felt 
terribly envious.







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[NF] Windows Vista

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Anybody install this yet ?

Started installing the beta I received with the action pack subscription and
it failed.

 

So I put xp back on and spent the (still doing) day downloading drivers and
installing for an acer aspire 5670.

 

What a pain 

 


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[ADMIN] Checking the spam filter

[Ed Leafe]

I'm sending this from my external RoadRunner account. If it gets  
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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody install this yet ?
>

Nope, but in the past week I've deployed an CentOS web server and an
Ubuntu laptop without any troubles.

> What a pain 

It sounds it. If it hurts so much, why do you keep doing it?

What's it called? "Vista?" What's it good for?

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Re: [ADMIN] Checking the spam filter

[Bill Anderson]

Ed Leafe wrote:
>   I'm sending this from my external RoadRunner account. If it gets  
> through, I think I have the spam stuff correctly in place.
That's all a matter of opinion. :-P :-P

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RE: [NF] Windows Vista

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Ted, you of all people..
Ya'll are killing me 

Very simply.
I don't have the time or the inclination to learn yet another treadmill.
I'm set in my ways and all I'm interested in is selling real estate (the
programs require windows) or working as a data ho for the corporate empires
(their programs require windows UNLESS you work in the server room)

Its kind of like the republicans trouncing the democrats tonight.

My money comes from the MAJORITY RULES
What else can I say ?? 


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On 11/7/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody install this yet ?
>

Nope, but in the past week I've deployed an CentOS web server and an
Ubuntu laptop without any troubles.

> What a pain 

It sounds it. If it hurts so much, why do you keep doing it?

What's it called? "Vista?" What's it good for?

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Re: [ADMIN] Checking the spam filter

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:40 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:

>>  I'm sending this from my external RoadRunner account. If it gets
>> through, I think I have the spam stuff correctly in place.
> That's all a matter of opinion. :-P :-P

Yeah, it's still letting your posts through. Guess I gotta tighten  
it up a bit. ;-)

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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> I don't have the time or the inclination to learn yet another  
> treadmill.

Then why switch to Vista? It certainly is different enough to  
qualify as a new treadmill.

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Re: [ADMIN] Checking the spam filter

[Bill Anderson]

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:40 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
>
>   
>>> I'm sending this from my external RoadRunner account. If it gets
>>> through, I think I have the spam stuff correctly in place.
>>>   
>> That's all a matter of opinion. :-P :-P
>> 
>
>   Yeah, it's still letting your posts through. Guess I gotta tighten  
> it up a bit. ;-)
Hey!! Now cut that out! ;-)

Bill



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RE: [NF] Windows Vista

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Ain't seen that yet...
Couldn’t get the damn thing running...

Now why didn’t I like fedora.
Buddy sent me a joke with a wmv file.
Couldn’t play it.
Tried several things to download the codecs and none of them worked..

Took the damn computer outside and applied the shotgun rule to it.

It definitely is stable, never said it wasn’t.
But it’s a whole new learning curve.

Can't see windows (vista) being that much different then (XP), but I have 25
years experience with that and if I ever get lucky enough to pick up another
contract, then vista will be another feather in my cap, whereas linux won't.

Sorry guys, but data ho's RULE...
Unless they're farmed out to India 


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On Nov 7, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> I don't have the time or the inclination to learn yet another  
> treadmill.

Then why switch to Vista? It certainly is different enough to  
qualify as a new treadmill.

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Programmatically transfer files to/from Apple iPods

[Malcolm Greene]

Anyone come across a way to programmatically transfer files to/from
Apple iPods?

By files I mean audio, video, and photos.

I tried googling this topic and it appears the only way to transfer
files is via iTunes?

Disclaimer: I'm a total novice when it comes to working with iPod's so I
may be over-complicating things.

Thanks!

Malcolm


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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't have the time or the inclination to learn yet another treadmill.
> I'm set in my ways and all I'm interested in is selling real estate (the
> programs require windows) or working as a data ho for the corporate empires
> (their programs require windows UNLESS you work in the server room)
>

As Ed said, so why switch? I advised my clients to  buy machines over
the summer and fall as sales fell and vendors are clearing out their
Pentium machines to make room for Core 2 machines, and to lock down on
WinXPPro. At least until SP2 ships. No rush. No compelling reason to
switch.

Unless your clients are demanding Vista. Are they, Virgil?

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RE: [NF] Windows Vista

[Virgil Bierschwale]

My only client at this time is me.
I'm always looking for a competitive edge, so I try new technology when I
can.

At this time I can't tell you if vista is good or bad because it wouldn’t
run on my laptop.

Funny thing is, I have 2 gb ram, 120 m hd, good graphics, etc...

My suspicion is it failed because I had to format the hard drive, losing all
the drivers (it wasn’t formatted in ntfs, so it wouldn’t install)

Now that its formatted in ntfs, and I have all the drivers reinstalled, I
believe it may work this time..

Unfortunately I'm not going to take the time to try it again for awhile.

As for my clients, I've made 1,052.76 this year doing computer work, and
I've made 6,000, maybe 10,000 doing real estate work, so I'm sure ya'll will
see where I need to focus my skills at.

Of course, I'm bidding 1,000 on a crystal reports gig (one week, possibly
one day) tomorrow, so maybe the tides going to turn 

Sorry guys, the majority of my work on a computer is quicken home and
business (have to have), excel (yep open office will handle that), Word,
ditto.. and email to and from my friends..

It was probably simple to install the codecs to totem, but after a few
hours, I didn’t figure it out and that’s all the time I was willing to
devote to it.

Windows, handled it immediately, and if it didn’t, it downloaded the program
I needed.

Fedora didn’t..


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Of Ted Roche
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:14 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Windows Vista

On 11/7/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't have the time or the inclination to learn yet another treadmill.
> I'm set in my ways and all I'm interested in is selling real estate (the
> programs require windows) or working as a data ho for the corporate
empires
> (their programs require windows UNLESS you work in the server room)
>

As Ed said, so why switch? I advised my clients to  buy machines over
the summer and fall as sales fell and vendors are clearing out their
Pentium machines to make room for Core 2 machines, and to lock down on
WinXPPro. At least until SP2 ships. No rush. No compelling reason to
switch.

Unless your clients are demanding Vista. Are they, Virgil?

-- 
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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Ted Roche]

On 11/7/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At this time I can't tell you if vista is good or bad because it wouldn't
> run on my laptop.
>

On the contrary, it sounds like you've answered your own question.

> It was probably simple to install the codecs to totem, but after a few
> hours, I didn't figure it out and that's all the time I was willing to
> devote to it.

Microsoft's Media Player, in addition to being a great delivery
platform for malware and exploits. also has no problem installing
proprietary and restrictive codecs on your machine. It's easier for
the software vendor when they have the attitude that they own your
machine.

I don't know the specifics of what you were trying to install on what
type of hardware and OS, There are a lot of media players in Linux to
choose from, and each has its strengths and weaknesses. In addition,
different distributions take different stances on how easy or hard it
ought to be to install commercial codecs which can taint the platform
you're using. I found it was sometimes hard to find instructions on
how to install such restrictive software.

If you decide to try that one again, don't forget the Linux zealots
here and on the ProLinux forums.

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RE: [NF] Windows Vista

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Actually you just described what made me call it quits for now


I found it was sometimes hard to find instructions on
how to install such restrictive software.



This is why linux, fedora, ubuntu, etc. are not ready for the average user
such as myself..


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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Ed Leafe]

On Nov 7, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> Actually you just described what made me call it quits for now
> 
>
> I found it was sometimes hard to find instructions on
> how to install such restrictive software.
>
> 
>
> This is why linux, fedora, ubuntu, etc. are not ready for the  
> average user
> such as myself..

You should really check out Ubuntu. I just fired up the package  
manager, and entered 'wmv' in the search box. Among the 16 packages  
were two full media players that support wmv, among other codecs.

Installation is a matter of clicking on a checkbox to mark it for  
installation, and clicking the big 'Apply' button. Yeah, that's  
really tough for an 'average user'.

-- Ed Leafe
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-- http://dabodev.com




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