Re: [NF] Are you married to a langauage?

[Dan Covill]

One thing you can say of the fox, she is faithful! You can rely on her.

Dan

> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
> 
> At 08:39 2015-12-28, Stephen Russell  wrote:
>> >From a java based blog.
>> 
>> https://dzone.com/articles/do-not-marry-a-language-selecting-the-correct-lang
> 
> There is a lot to be said for a good marriage.  I love my Fox.  It is 
> true that she is not perfect, but she is very good indeed.  Besides, who is 
> perfect?  I certainly am not.
> 
> OK, I admit she was rather young when I first met her, but I am 
> definitely not one of those programmers who jump from young language to young 
> language.  Serial child abusers, I call them.
> 
> My Fox's family kicked her out, but I have been quite happy with her.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko
> 
> 
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A Happy Whatever

[Dan Covill]

Allow me to join in the random distribution of undefined general wishes of 
vague goodwill.

Happy Whatever boxers. And we’re still here!

Dan Covill
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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

[Dan Covill]

Note to ProFoxers:
This was a direct email to Wes Wilson, with a Copy to ProFox.
Sorry that didn’t come thru.

Dan

> On Dec 19, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Dan Covill  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the link to your Site-in-Progress.  http://erw1.myfreesites.net/ 
> <http://erw1.myfreesites.net/>
> Here are some comments.
> 
> 1. Is this a part of the ERW Programming site, or a standalone for VFP?
>   It's not clear, and should be stated in the Home page.
>   (The fact that it's called the 'Home' page indicates that it is a separate 
> site, or sub-site.)
> 
> 2. About page should start with the name of your company and what it does.
> 
> 3. I think the Home Page should just outline the choices - you've said the 
> same thing in your Choices subpages. Better yet, don't outline the choices in 
> Home, just point to where you did outline them.
> 
> 4. Contacts needs an email address. Who writes letters today?
> 
> Overall - Good job and I think we need this. I like the pros/cons.
> 
> Dan Covill - ProFox


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Re: Need help with "Visual FoxPro: End-of-Life???"

[Dan Covill]

Thanks for the link to your Site-in-Progress.  http://erw1.myfreesites.net/ 
<http://erw1.myfreesites.net/>
Here are some comments.

1. Is this a part of the ERW Programming site, or a standalone for VFP?
   It's not clear, and should be stated in the Home page.
   (The fact that it's called the 'Home' page indicates that it is a separate 
site, or sub-site.)
   
2. About page should start with the name of your company and what it does.

3. I think the Home Page should just outline the choices - you've said the same 
thing in your Choices subpages. Better yet, don't outline the choices in Home, 
just point to where you did outline them.

4. Contacts needs an email address. Who writes letters today?

Overall - Good job and I think we need this. I like the pros/cons.

Dan Covill - ProFox


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Re: Supporting multiple clients with different calculations -- using memo field for varying customer logic??

[Dan Covill]

As an alternative view, maybe that’s part of the reason they’re willing to give 
us money!

Dan Covill

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Fred Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I think it's a shared universal pain for us developers.
> 
> Fred
> 
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Bob Lee  wrote:
> 
>> Ken.. I live this life.. every single day.
>> I feel your pain..
>> 
>> Bob Lee
>> 
>> 
>> Even when they are looking for help from the computer, it's pretty rare
>> that
>> they are able or willing to take the time necessary to carry out the ideal
>> full-blown "user story" planning and design process. I am sometimes forced
>> to take vague concepts and try to develop workable implementations. Unlike
>> an independent programming consultant who is selling a service, I can't
>> tell
>> them, "my way or the highway".
>> 


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Re: OLE drag drop

[Dan Covill]

I suspect the problem is something like this:  When you drag and drop a file 
name from, say, a Word document, you are dropping (pasting) a character string. 
 When you drag and drop a file name from File Explorer you are dropping the 
FILE ITSELF, not just the name string.

Can you right-click the file, select ‘Properties’, select the file name at the 
top of the general tab, and drag/drop that?  e.g., “Roster.txt”.

Dan Covill

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Darren  wrote:
> 
> http://www.aksel.com/whitepapers/dragdrop.htm
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kent
> Belan
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2015 3:36 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: OLE drag drop
> 
> More info:
> 
> I am testing "Fun with OLE drag and drop" from the Solution.app in the
> Programming section.
> 
> I can not get it to drop a file from windows explorer. All I get is the
> circle with a slash thru it.
> 
> Is there some setting with Windows 10 or VFP9 that I need to change to get
> it to OLE drop ?
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Re: [NF] Mac Help

[Dan Covill]

I too have a new MacBook Air.  You have three basic choices:

1. Install Office 2016 for Mac.  Expensive choice if she just wants to look at 
Word Docs, but if she has an Office 360 subscription the Mac counts as one of 
your five machines.

2. “Pages” is a word processor that comes free with any Mac.  It will load 
.docx files and she can read them OK, but the user setup is completely 
different from Word and I wouldn’t recommend it for creating or editing Word 
documents.

3. Libre Office and Open Office are two complete open-source office suites that 
have native Mac versions.  Either one can import/export between their native 
(open-source) formats and standard MS Office formats.  Libre Office is the one 
I use, both have a user interface that is quite similar to Office 2010 and 
later, so they are suitable for heavy-duty use.

Dan Covill



> On Nov 17, 2015, at 9:47 AM, John Weller  wrote:
> 
> I have been asked to transfer some Word docs to a friend's new MacBook Air -
> the problem is I have not had anything to do with a Mac for many years.
> Does the Mac come with WP software?  If so will it open  a M$ word document?
> What about Excel - is there an equivalent?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John 
> 
> John Weller
> 01380 723235
> 07976 393631
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Recommendation on best keyboard

[Dan Covill]

Oddly enough, my wife has a brand-new iMac and is using a Logitech K300, which 
is a cheaper version of your K750, Ed.  

A year or so she said she wanted a black keyboard, because she was sick of 
cleaning the keys on the Mac keyboard (old iMac, about 6 years old).  We looked 
at the K750, but she thought it was too big.  We bought the K300 because of 
size and layout, and were shocked at how cheap it was!

Well, it works great and she has had no problems (once we figured out that the 
Windows key is what you use for the Mac Command key).  So when we got the new 
iMac she didn’t even look at the keyboard, we just swapped over the K300.  She 
does use the new-fangled Apple mouse, however.

I’ve used it a little, and I like it as well.  

Dan Covill


> On Nov 6, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Malcolm Greene  wrote:
> 
>> Please share if you have a favorite keyboard - bluetooth or USB - Mac
>> or Windows.
> 
> I use this keyboard: Logitech K750 Wireless Solar Keyboard
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6UM2MX1425
> 
> It's USB, but you just plug a small receiver into your USB hub/port, and the 
> keyboard is wirelessly connected. I like the solar panel, which works 
> excellently even in low light levels, and the keyboard's keys feel great. It 
> works with both my Mac and my ThinkPad running Ubuntu Linux.
> 
> 
> -- Ed Leafe
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Re: Easy dump to text and restore functionality

[Dan Covill]

> On Nov 5, 2015, at 2:18 AM, Peter Cushing  
> wrote:
> 
> We have a backup solution running every couple of hours that has a copy of 
> the database in another location and just appends the data to this, then 
> makes a date/timed copy of in another folder.  If your system went down you 
> could copy this straight back and it would work fine.  Instead of dumping the 
> data it is dragging the data.

I did that several years ago in a high-volume pharmacy application.  We had 
nightly backups, but realized when we hit 1,000 orders / day that if the system 
went down in the afternoon we could restore the backup but iit would take a 
l-o-o-o-n-g time to re-enter today’s work. 

So I attached another workstation and just had it loop, comparing record counts 
in the dbf’s and appending from the server as required.  Read only, no locks 
required. This was FPD 2.6, as I recall.  Worked like a charm (perhaps an 
instance of Gall’s Law - successful because it was not ambitious?).

Dan Covill
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Re: [NF] Gig at NASA?

[Dan Covill]

ALGOL was my first high-level (i.e., not assembler) language.  Actually it was 
JOVIAL (Jules Own Version of IAL), an ALGOL clone built at System Development 
Corp in 1960, for whom I worked at the time.  
When I left SDC in 1964 I used real ALGOL on the Burroughs B5500 series.  I 
continued through several employers until 1980.  Still the best language I ever 
used.

Dan Covill

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
> 
> When I saw your posting this morning - on my Cell - and all I initially saw 
> was the Subject line - I thought to myself - "Awesome - a FoxPro job at NASA! 
> I always Wanted to be in Space Program." Alas - I was sadly mistaken. 
> Although I did Fortran back in my college days, along w/Assembler - I never 
> touched ALGOL. 
> 
> OH well...
> 
> -K-
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan 
> Bourke
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:53 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: [NF] Gig at NASA?
> 
> How are your Assembler, FORTRAN and ALGOL skills, specifically on 50 Khz 
> General Electric 18-bit TTL CPUs, with single register accumulator and 
> bit-serial access to 2096-word plated-wire RAM?
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/30/has_voyager_1_escaped_the_sun_yet_yes_but_also_no_say_boffins/
> 
> --
>   Alan Bourke
>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
> 
> 
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Re: [NF] Why IT systems go wrong, and the impact.

[Dan Covill]

Now THAT is a real find, Ted!

Like you, I’m amazed I never heard it before.  Maybe have it chiseled on my 
tombstone.

Dan

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> Recently, a Twitter cited Gall's Law, which I was amazed I hadn't heard 
> before:
> 
> Gall's Law: "A complex system that works is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed
> from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You
> have to start over with a working simple system." – John Gall (1975,
> p.71)
> 
> cite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gall_(author)#Gall.27s_law
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Re: Weird problem with REFRESH()

[Dan Covill]

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> Richard,
> I think you are very brave staying with the Wizard generated code... I gave 
> up totally trying to understand any of the auto generated code back in VFP7 
> days after being really stung with it.
> 
> Bite the bullet and get rid of it you know it makes sense rather than 
> kludging all over the place!!
> 
> Dave
> 

+1

Dan Covill


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Re: Another new ransomware

[Dan Covill]

I suspect the Rumanian authorities have other problems, like perhaps refugees, 
that draw their attention away from piracy issues!

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> Kurt,
> I noticed that the backups hadn't been done so set one going and it was that 
> backup that we did the restore with.
> 
> As for the ransom amount (for Peter) I recall that it was about 13,000 Euros 
> payable by bank transfer into a named Rumanian account so the recipients of 
> the monies were obviously known so why couldn't the authorities apprehend the 
> perpetrators? 
> 
> Sometimes international law enforcement and cross border co-operation is a 
> sham.
> 
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Re: [NF] This looks very interesting for $99

[Dan Covill]

By clicking past the Features pictures, I found that this is an IndieGoGo 
promotion - you are pre-ordering a device to be built some time in the future 
by a startup company - your prepaid order is a form of startup funding for the 
company. 

This is fine, so long as you know what you’re ‘buying’.  Everything may go just 
fine.  Or the company may never reach the required funding, may not have enough 
money to go into production, may run months or years late to production, or may 
just vanish. If they do reach production, I’d be surprised if there were no 
problems with the initial units.

And I think Ted has some good points as well.

Dan Covill

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Vince Teachout  wrote:
> 
> H... small computer that uses a TV as a monitor.  Kinda like my old C64 
> in concept
> 
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RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Thanks for the info, Ted

I get the impression it started in the Linux world, and has more
recently been ported to Windows.  

Thinking about trying it, but it's only on the Apple Store which has
no trial period, and $41.99 is a bit much to see if you can use it.

I do WAY more creating .txt note files than I do programming in my text 
editor, although I do maintain an HTML website.  So my use would depend
on setting it up as a fixed-font text editor.

Will think about and maybe try it later this week.
Thanks again for the info.

Dan

> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:41:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> Notepad ++ is the Windows version of SciTE, the Scintilla Text Editor.
> Scintilla was intended to be a cross-platform GUI library like GTK or
> WXWidgets, but I don't think it has a big following. SciTE is
> available for OS X as well:
> 
> http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Dan Covill  wrote:
> > Looks pretty professional.   Does it have any special provisions for CSV 
> > files?
> >
> > I’ve used EditPad Pro for many years now, and have been very satisfied.  I 
> > just wish they
> > had one that would run on Mac - haven’t found a good general purpose text 
> > editor on Mac
> > yet.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Stephen Russell  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> NotePad ++ is the proper cost and pretty good as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stephen Russell
> >> Sr. Analyst
> >> Ring Container Technology
> >> Oakland TN
> >>
> >> 901.246-0159 cell
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Looks pretty professional.   Does it have any special provisions for CSV files?

I’ve used EditPad Pro for many years now, and have been very satisfied.  I just 
wish they
had one that would run on Mac - haven’t found a good general purpose text 
editor on Mac 
yet.

Dan

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Stephen Russell  wrote:
> 
> 
> NotePad ++ is the proper cost and pretty good as well.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
> 
> 901.246-0159 cell
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Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Me too.

Once I learn to use it (!) it should be great for making sense out of those 
damned contact
export files the email outfits generate, with 150 columns in random orders!

Take a look at the screen shot on the developer’s own site - helps a lot.
   http://csved.sjfrancke.nl/

Dan

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Peter Cushing  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 14/09/2015 16:57, Dave Crozier wrote:
>> Take a look at CSVED I use it all the time and it is free... and portable if 
>> you want that version.
>> 
>> http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=1101
>> 
>> 
> Just having a play with it now.  Looks very interesting.
> 
> Cheers Dave.
> 
> Peter
> 


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Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

I’ve used Foxit Reader for several years now.  Way simpler and faster than 
Adobe.

Dan

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Ted Roche  wrote:
> 
> "How to Uninstall 23 Apps You Didn't Know You Had" sure sounds like
> clickbait to me, but the article is interesting:
> 
> http://www.itworld.com/article/2983665/windows-apps/how-to-uninstall-default-windows-10-apps-you-never-knew-you-had.html
> 
> My Win10 beef of the week (bearing in mind it's only Monday ;) Over
> the weekend, IE decided it was the default PDF viewer, and not the
> Adobe app I had been using for some time. I had a LOT of problems with
> the PDF.js viewer in FireFox, and the PDF viewer in Chrome just can't
> reliably nor consistently print PDFs, so I've pretty much gone to a
> dedicated PDF viewer on my of my OSes. I don't recall any dialogs
> asking me to switch the default app for PDFs. Now, I'll just have to
> figure out how to undo it.
> 
> "Where Do You Think We're Going Today?"


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Re: test as its quiet

[Dan Covill]

Test msg received.

Dan
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Ken Dibble  wrote:
> 
> I see it.
> 
>> Probably holidays but as the last message was from Ed about it being down,
>> thought I would send a test
>> Al
>> 
>> 
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RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Another example.  

Went to the Apple store yesterday and bought a MacBook Air.  The 
demonstrator/salesperson used a smartphone to place the order,
enter the Credit Card, and print the receipt.  No cash register involved.

But back at the office, somebody is running the sales and accounting system.  
And they're using a desktop!

Dan


> From: kurt_we...@globetax.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..
> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:18:47 +
>
> Honestly - I think there is VAST Potential for Developers to create 
> specialized Apps for Tablets.
>
> For example - 2 instances I have come across in the past # of years.
>
> Doctors. Instead of tons of notes & paperwork on a patient - data on the 
> tablet & recording the current issues of the patient visit - seems to be a 
> prime example of a good use for Tablets. Some years ago when I was with my 
> son at the Pediatrician - the Dr. had a mobile device - although at the time 
> - I think it was a device closer to size of a PDA or a Smart phone. With that 
> device the Dr. could send a prescription request to a Pharmacy immediately.
>
> Second - Sales. More specifically. When I was last working for a SW co. in 
> the Fashion Industry - located in the Fashion District of NYC - I was working 
> on a Desktop App for processing of Orders - as well as doing EDI. But, they 
> had a smaller App that could be used by Sales People to take orders from 
> Customers onsite. Like at Trade Shows or Trunk Sales. Of course, these are 
> potential customers for a Store - and thus like Wholesale type orders. AT the 
> time, we were going to change the App so that you could use a Scanner and 
> scan a Bar Code on a Tag - to help expedite the sales process. So - in this 
> instance - a Tablet is perfect!
>

  
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RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Baffled me, too.  However, I think that "inking" may refer to the some new 
facilities in Win 10 for pen input.  I never used
that and never will, but I think it's kind of an analog to Cortana, another way 
to get faster input into tablets and other 
mobile devices.  So my "inking" is my pen input.  

So it occurs to me, are they planning to send my "mumbling" along with my 
"typing and inking"?

Dan


> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:56:51 +0800
> Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..
> From: chan...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Anyone wanna talk about the privacy issue in Win 10 free upgrade, about
> the clause "Sending typing and inking to Micro$oft..."?
>
> I dunno whether it meant a keylogger.
>

  
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RE: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...

[Dan Covill]

And how are things in Contoocook this fine day, Ted?

Dan Covill


> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:14:48 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Must be that Southern accent, y'all. Southern New Hampshire, that is :)
>

  
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RE: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...

[Dan Covill]

> From: kurt_we...@globetax.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:17:20 +
>
> Sounds like a good idea. This Image backup you speak of - it's a CD image? 
> Something like that? I've not actually done that before - but I would 
> definitely like to do it this time around.
>
No, it is a complete binary image of your entire drive, generally written to an 
external USB hard drive (around $60 for 1 TB).  This can be restored 
completely any time you wish.  

Two free, excellent backup programs to do this:  Macrium Reflect (beloved of 
Leo Notenboom) and EaseUS "Todo" backup, from China.
I've used both, have standardized on Todo because scheduled incremental backups 
are available as part of the free package.

Do NOT use older backup packages, because Win 8 introduced a couple of new, 
unnamed partitions on your drive that will screw up your
boot process if the backup doesn't know how to deal with them.  More wonderful 
MS technology to help us out!

Dan


> Strangely - last night - upon opening the box and pulling out the laptop - it 
> only had a small paper setup guide (which I didn't really need) and some 
> small booklet. I was annoyed that it came with NO Install CD for the OS - 
> incase something happened and I needed to re-install the OS! 

Forget it.  Nobody has CD/DVD drives any more.   Get a couple of 16 GB USB 
thumb-drives and learn how to use them.  Easy to carry, too!

Dan   
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RE: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...

[Dan Covill]

+2++  !!

Dan


> From: da...@flexipol.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] Laptop Dying & a Cheap Replacement ASAP...
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:02:19 +
>
> Definitely do get rid of the McAfee protection ... and any other instances. 
> In the last 3 weeks I have come across 3 machines (new and old) totally 
> crippled by Mcafee Internet security to the extent that they couldn't even 
> connect to ... it is complete rubbish and should be avoided at all costs.
>
> Dave
>
  
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RE: [NF] Win10 OOBE, part 2

[Dan Covill]

The best single source I've found for this kind of stuff is:
   https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/5213/complete-guide-to-windows-10

It's a long list of topics Paul Thurrott has posted on Windows 10, with links 
to the complete
articles.  Lots of stuff on upgrade rules, clean install, what's new and how it 
works, setup
options, and what to look out for.

Highly recommended.

Dan Covill


> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 14:24:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NF] Win10 OOBE, part 2
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Found the scrolling solution today. The ASUS Gestures program
> re-appeared after a couple of days away, and there's s checkbox under
> the Scroll topic that offers "Content moves reversely with your
> finger's direction."
>

  
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RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Little late on this, but I just spent 5 days in the hospital a bit unexpectedly.

As others said, not a particularly authoritative article, but have to agree 
with posters point
that MS is stunningly un-forthcoming about making you sign agreements before 
giving
you any clue about the content.

This seems to me to be quite similar to the great addition of Bing search in 
Windows 7, which
was somewhat later revealed to be primarily an ad sales engine, with the users 
agreeing in
advance to the collection and use of all search and location history. 

Dan Covill


> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:20:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> And the next Win10 revelation:
>
> 'Free' Windows 10 Makes Expensive Software Changes
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/17/windows-10s-pirated-software-searches/
>

  
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RE: Problem with COPY and RENAME

[Dan Covill]

Not sure if this is relevant, but I have run into problems with renaming 
manually from
Windows 8 on.  I note that the rename is deliberately setting Upper and Lower 
case for parts of
the path.  I don't do this programmatically, but I frequently Rename files to 
try to control the
Sort Order in the Explorer, and have many times encountered it simply ignoring 
my changes.
I Rename to "New Schedule", and when I hit enter it goes right back to "new 
SCHEDULE".  

Finally figured out that if a name change is only a case change, Windows says 
that's not a "real" change 
and refuses to change the directory.  Not what I wanted, so I now change it to 
"FooBuzz 13", and then
back to "New Schedule", and am now able to get what I wanted with only twice 
the work!

Is it possible that the "failures" you're seeing are the result of the fact 
that the stored path never changes?

Dan Covill



> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:29:42 -0400
> Subject: Re: Problem with COPY and RENAME
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Jeff Johnson  wrote:
>> RENAME LOWER(lcimportpath + UPPER(lcimage)) TO lcexportpath +
>> UPPER(ALLTRIM(doc_url))
>> does not work.
>
> Change this to:
> lcFrom = LOWER(lcimportpath + UPPER(lcimage))
> lcTo = lcexportpath + UPPER(ALLTRIM(doc_url))
> RENAME (lcFrom) TO (lcTo)
>
> If it works, let me know why ;)
>
> I used the adir() method and it is finding the file, but
>> there is something wrong with this command.
>> It looks okay to me.
>> This is one of those FoxPro things that hangs me up. I could probably spend
>> days figuring this out and it is usually something I am missing.
>>

  
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Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks ......

[Dan Covill]

This is a (partial) reply to the original question on how well VFP 9 Apps work 
in Windows 10.
Short answer: very well, but some of that may because I have taken great pains 
to minimize my
exposure to the extraneous complexity beloved of Microsoft.

I've been in the Preview program since October (on my laptop) and have never 
had a VFP 
app malfunction or crash.  However, I only use the laptop for demos, and most 
of the time I'm
not demoing VFP, so that's a very small sample.  But still, VFP runs as well in 
10 as does any other
Windows program.

On Sunday, I think, I bit the bullet and "Upgraded" my Win 8.1 to Win 10 (this 
is on a Mac, in 
a Parallels virtual machine).  This is NOT the laptop, this is my main machine 
running both OS X 
and Windows in roughly equal proportions.  My main financial system is a 
Billing/CashFlow system 
originally built in VFP for my consulting firm, which was originally in FP DOS 
and currently in 
VFP9 SP1 (I didn't need any of the Report extensions in SP2).  It worked 
without a hitch in Win 7, 
in Win 8.1, and now in Win 10.  No errors, no hangs, no glitches.
  Caveat:  I do not use anything that has to be Registered, everything is in a 
single App directory, 
including all the runtimes.  I do not use any Active X crap, I do not use the 
Report Writer.  I do have
a pretty elaborate Error Logging system, but it hasn't had any work for a long 
time.  It's a fairly
sophisticated IDE app,  with a fairly fancy system of generating grids on 
demand.  It all still works.

Example B:  I made a Directory Map program that lets you pick a Root Folder 
(D:\, or Documents,
or Whatever), does a complete tree-walk, and prints a fair-sized summary of the 
number of Folders,
Files, and Megabytes at each level within it.  A variation starts from the 
Start Menu and inventories
the "All Applications" list.  To my amazement, this one works also.

So may I'm too old and conservative to get into the kinds of trouble I should 
be, but VFP on Windows 10
is a no-problem for me.

Hope this helps

Dan Covill
San Diego
  
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RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

[Dan Covill]

Yes, it will make Edge the default, and will not honor an attempt to make 
FireFox
the default by clicking in FireFox.

You can, however, select Settings> System> Default Apps, then scroll down to
Browser, and set FireFox as the default there.

Dan Covill


> From: alanpbou...@fastmail.fm
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..
> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:22:52 +0100
>
> You can certainly use other browsers. However it will make Edge the
> default even if you upgraded from an earlier version of Windows where
> you had something other than IE as the default. Which is kinda sneaky.
> Edge is pretty good though, if unfinished, and there is some level of
> consternation that it doesn't support ActiveX any more. Luckily, IE 11
> is still there if you need that.
>
> --
> Alan Bourke
> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

  
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RE: [NF] Help w/a Corrupted Word File

[Dan Covill]

Read Ted Roche's post again.

.docx is a zip file.  You can unzip it using any unzip program.  Stop trying 
editors.

Once you unzip it then you'll have a bunch of xml files and you should be able
to look at them with practically anything.

Dan


> From: kurt_we...@globetax.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] Help w/a Corrupted Word File
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:09:08 +
>
> Wow - now THAT's a Cool little Fox App!
>
> Bummer though - as all the Text shown in the editor is STILL Looking like 
> Garbage...
>
> :-(
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 10:35 AM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Help w/a Corrupted Word File
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Kurt Wendt  wrote:
>
>> It seems I don't have a Hex Editor on my PC here either. I was looking for a 
>> built-in Hex editor type prog in Windows - like under Accessories - but, 
>> couldn't seem to find anything. Will have to look around for a Hex editor 
>> and try to give that a shot.
>
> DO HOME(1)+"Tools\HexEdit\HexEdit.app"
>
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RE: TEST

[Dan Covill]

Ken,

I think it's much more likely that it did go out to the list from leafe.com, and
any spam filtering mechanisms (a reasonable guess) it's stuck in are somewhere
on the routing from leafe.com to you.

Dan


> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 13:03:09 -0400
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
> Subject: RE: TEST
>
>
>>You can always go to http://www.leafe.com/archives/results/profox to see
>>whether or not your message was processed. The list matches what I've
>>received today.
>
> Yes, thanks. But I think it's only going to contain messages that went out
> to the list, not those that were received by the server but are trapped
> somewhere in the spam filtering mechanism.
>
> Ken
>

  
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RE: Pass a Method to a Method?

[Dan Covill]

Ken,

First question is Which method is throwing the error, the one in MyObject or 
the one in 
MyOtherObject that creates the third parameter?

In MyOtherObject.Method, what happens with NULLs?  You said it might return a 
string 
or an integer, so you must be checking for type somewhere.  What if the field 
it's
looking at contains a NULL?  That's not the same as EMPTY().

Dan Covill


> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:11:54 -0400
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
> Subject: Pass a Method to a Method?
>
> Here's an odd one:
>
> Today, in my VFP 9 SP1 production .exe, my error logger reported VFP Error
> 11 ("Function argument value, type, or count is invalid.") on a call from a
> form like this:
>
> MyForm.MyMethod:
>
> BooleanResult =
> oMyObject.Method(THISFORM,"specifictablename",oMyOtherObject.Method("fieldname"))
> ** end method**
>
> This system has been in operation since late 2007. I normally have zero
> problems passing methods as parameters to other methods, so this surprised me.
>
> The data types of the passed variables are not really relevant:
>
> oMyOtherObject.Method() may return an empty string or an integer greater
> than 0.
>
> oMyObject.Method() doesn't validate the parameters, but when
> oMyObject.Method() receives "specifictablename" as the second parm, it
> calls another method of oMyObject that will return .T. if the type of data
> returned by oMyOtherObject.Method() is an EMPTY() value of any type, and
> then passes that boolean .T. value back.
>
> In addition, the stack trace shows the error occurring on the
> oMyObject.Method() call, not any of the methods lower down, and the error
> is not "data type mismatch". This would seem to suggest that VFP, in this
> one isolated instance. hiccupped on a method passed as a parameter.
>
> Again, I've NEVER seen this before in the entire 8 year history of this
> application. What could account for this? Could there be some kind of
> timing issue involved in the resolution of the method call passed as a
> parameter?
>
> Is passing a method as a parameter to another method an official no-no in VFP?
>
> As a precaution, I've separated out the oMyOtherObject.Method() call and
> let it populate a variable that I now pass to oMyObject.Method().
>
> But I find this interesting, and strange, and I wonder if anyone else has
> seen this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ken Dibble
> www.stic-cil.org
>
>
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RE: Cursors and Report Writer for a beginner

[Dan Covill]

Joe,

I have never seen usable results from any of the wizards.

Your initial idea, to use cursors, is by far the best approach.  To Hell with 
what the
report writer wizard wants; create a cursor that contains the data you want, in 
the order 
you want it, and then create the simplest report you can to display it.

IMO, the amount of work you have to do to smoke out the intricacies of the 
wizard-built report will far exceed the effort to simply build the report by 
itself.

Dan Covill


> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:13:40 -0400
> Subject: Cursors and Report Writer for a beginner
> From: j...@wheypower.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> I am working on an application that reads in a pair of .CSV files, tweaks
> their data, and then call the VFP report writer to produce a paper report.
> I started out assuming that I could build cursors to feed the report but
> discovered that the report writer wizard wants tables. When I tried a
> workaround I got into trouble so I caved and switched to tables
>
> When I did the report using tables and then recreated the tables the report
> would no longer run. Apparently the wizard adds index tags to the tables
> which my rewrite eliminated.
>
> It is probably obvious that I have very little experience with One to many
> reports so am stumbling around finding lots of things that don't work. If
> someone could suggest the best approach for a beginner I think it would
> save me a lot of time.
>
> My preference would be to stay in cursors and setup the environment in code
> before calling a report. I will have multiple reports and will find it
> easier to understand the code in a .prg rather than buried in the report.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Joe

  
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RE: [NF] LAST PASS Hacked

[Dan Covill]

Me too.

Dan Covill


> Subject: Re: [NF] LAST PASS Hacked
> From: e...@leafe.com
>
> As Ted always says, security is a process, and I think this event shows that 
> the process adopted by LastPass and its users is a strong one. I am a more 
> loyal customer than ever after this.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe

  
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RE: LAST PASS Hacked

[Dan Covill]

+1
Dan


> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 20:55:09 -0400
> Subject: Re: LAST PASS Hacked
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Paul Hill  wrote:
>
>> Did you audit the encryption method they use and can you be 100% confident
>> it will take several decades to decrypt? Would you bet your bank balance?
>
> Paul: Thank you for your faith in my abilities. Even though I'm a math
> major, too smart for my own good, and have, ahem-ahem, decades of
> software development experience, crypto software is a speciality I
> would not depend on my skills to ensure.
>
> People I trust review papers [1] that indicate it is not a poor choice.
>
> [1] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/09/security_of_pas.html
>
> Re: 100% confident, decades: no, of course not. I regularly change passwords.
>
> re: bet my bank balance? No. Passwords for bank accounts and key
> credit card accounts are in that slip of paper in the wallet, like
> Kens, although I prefer the index card box. And changed routinely. And
> used on a machine carefully checked for security issues, never a
> public machine or someone else's network.
>
>> If I was in your shoes I would change my passwords. Seriously.
>
> I do change my passwords, light-heartedly. Life is too short.
>
> Security is a process and not a feature. You always choose to trade
> convenience for some absolute security.
>
>> I'm concerned this is not good enough due to keyloggers etc.
>> A UbiKey may solve this.
>
> And how do you review the source code for the firmware in a UbiKey?
>
> --
> Ted Roche
> Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> http://www.tedroche.com
>
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RE: 16-bit ancient software on Win NT 64-bit, was: Re: Hacker's Guide still lives

[Dan Covill]

Gene,

Think of it as a list of sources rather than items.  A 'complete' list of 
changes for an OS is highly unlikely.

As to the 16-64 bit incompatibility, I saw lots of references to that in the 
newsletters I subscribe to during the Vista period, so I was well aware that my 
new 64-bit Windows machine wouldn't do DOS without some special effort.
Subscribe to Windows Secrets.  It's a big help.

Dan Covill


> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:48:34 -0700
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: ge...@telus.net
> Subject: Re: 16-bit ancient software on Win NT 64-bit, was: Re: Hacker's 
> Guide still lives
>
> At 11:22 2015-06-17, Stephen Russell  wrote:
>>On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
>
>>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+are+the+new+things+in+Win+10+a+developer+should+be+aware+of
>
> What do you think the chances are that that is actually a complete list?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko

  
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RE: Programatic moving of items in listbox

[Dan Covill]

Dave,

Try a refresh() in the loop.
DO WHILE MDOWN()
Sleep(nMS)
Raiseevent(This, "Click")
this.refresh()  && update the display
enddo
Dan Covill


> From: da...@flexipol.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Programatic moving of items in listbox
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:26:00 +
>
> Gentleman,
> Been working on this a couple of hours now and almost cracked it but here is 
> the scenario:
>
> 1. Listbox with multiple items in it
> 2. Moverbars property set to .T. so you can manually drag an item up or down 
> the list
>
> Simple so far. We are implementing this on a touch screen and the moverbars 
> are too small for chunky fingers to accurately navigate to whatever sze you 
> set the listbox font at - i.e. the moverbars stay the same size.
>
> So I thought, no problem, if I put two buttons outside the list and then feed 
> the keyboard "{CTRL+UPARROW" ore "CTRL+DNARROW" into the keyboard buffer 
> after selecting focus to the listbox then I can manually move any item up and 
> down ... this works perfectly ad you can see the selected row moving up or 
> down the listbox no problem.
>
> Phase 2 SHOULD have been to allow continuous movement of an item in the 
> listbox by keeping the Up/Down button pressed so I set up a little routine in 
> the Mousedown event of both the up and down button to sleepfoe 1000 milli 
> seconds and then send the keystrokes detailed above by a raisevent(This, 
> "Click") and wralling this in a loop whilst the mouse is pressed. Once again 
> no problem apart from the line in the listbox is moved but you cannot see it 
> moving up/down a step at a time. Hence you keep the button pressed and only 
> when you let go does the item in the listbox appear in the new position.
>
> I have tried resetting focus to the listbox after each keyboard forcing as 
> well as refreshing the listbox after each forced keystroke but to no avail.
>
> Quite simply I want to see the item moving in the listbox one row at a time 
> either up or down and not simply when you stop pressing the up/down buttons 
> outside the listbox, and I can't seem to make it happen despite putting in 
> sleep/timing loops at various places to slow the movement up so VFP can 
> refresh the screen more often.

  
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RE: [NF] Stand-up Desk

[Dan Covill]

That bothered me a little.  They point out that it's balanced so you can raise 
it with one hand, but then they point out it can hold 160 pounds.  That makes 
me think it might not raise so easily with a computer, two monitors, and 30 
pounds of books and papers on the top of it.  I like the idea of the electric 
motor lift, even though it's more money.

Dan Covill


> Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 02:38:10 +0100
> From: supp...@calcpay.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Stand-up Desk
>
> Oops, no it is not.
>
>
>
> Andrew Stirling
>
>
> On 09/05/2015 02:24, Andrew Stirling wrote:
>> Its a wind up Jeff!
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Andrew Stirling
>> 01250 870397 / 874580
>> 07910467915
>> supp...@calcpay.co.uk
>> http://www.calcpay.co.uk
>>
>> On 08/05/2015 18:55, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>>> I did mention that he is a doctor and we are software developers. I
>>> will let you draw your own conclusion from that statement. ;^)
>>>
>>> It is a very cool desk though. You would never guess that he could just
>>> lift it up and stand or vice versus.
>>>
>>
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[NF] Stand-up Desk

[Dan Covill]

Old topic, but I found this link in today's MacWorld Daily:
   http://iskelter.com/liftpro-electric-desk/

At first glance, it looks nearly ideal.  Make sure you're sitting down when you 
look at the price, though.

Dan Covill

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RE: [NF] Watching M$ Ignite keynote now.

[Dan Covill]

I've been running the Win10 Preview on my laptop since last fall.  I have had 
zero problems with existing programs during the whole time.  The problems come 
when the Metro/Modern crew escape from their pen and crap all over the desktop.

There's kind of a turf war between the Luddites, who would like to retain the 
ability to do actual work, and the Modernists, who see the implementation of 
Devices and the Cloud as an opportunity to re-conceptualize everything, and the 
users be damned.  

I see no indication that there is any clear guidance from top management. Great 
example - in the latest build you click on  'Project Spartan' to run the new 
browser.  When it comes up it says "Microsoft Edge"!  And scrolling with the 
mouse doesn't work (it's a Modern app).

Dan Covill


> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:19:16 -0500
> Subject: [NF] Watching M$ Ignite keynote now.
> From: srussell...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Win10 is looking a lot better then Win8 ever did. It appears to give you
> the best between 7 & 8 with a lot of respect to 7 if that was your favorite
> between the two styles.
>
> They also have added a good deal of verbal interaction to retrieve
> results. See thsi as a major PITA when your coworker is too lazy to type
> and always has to talk to the computer.
>
> Now talking about security which sounds like they listened to users for a
> change. Data leakage and encryption have a good deal of talking points.
>
> Some of these bits are not fully baked as they tell us it is a demo or
> simulation for a specific feature.
>
> Win10 seems to be backwards compatible but they want apps / programs to be
> HTML5 capable and allow that Anjular JS to flow between all computing
> devices.
>
>
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
>
> 901.246-0159 cell
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RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?

[Dan Covill]

> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:03:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?
> 
> It did show an error. Off to the store I go...

That's the most reassuring message I've seen on this list in a long time!
  a. I don't have to worry about the software update trashing my system.
  b. The problem is on your computer, not mine.
  c. The problem is solvable.
  d. The info I dug up actually helped.

Whoopee!

Dan 

  

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RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?

[Dan Covill]

Kurt & Ken,

   http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-test-the-ram-on-your-mac/
has instructions for booting into test mode and running memory test.

Dan

> From: kurt_we...@globetax.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:44:55 +
> 
> Not sure how you can tell. I believe there are programs that can actually 
> Test the Memory - to make sure you don't have some kind of failures. 
> Alternately - and not sure if this is the best suggestion - but, since you 
> have 16GB - maybe you can Take out 8GB - and see if you still have the 
> problem. Then, if you do have the same problem - then swap the 8GB and try 
> again. Maybe someone else here can give more input on Memory issues. 
> 
> -K-
> 
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RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?

[Dan Covill]

Ken,

Just finished upgrading Parallels.  Everything appears to be working fine, 
including VFP.  I'm running Win 8.1 in my VM.

Dan

> From: dan.cov...@outlook.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:28:00 -0700
> 
> Hi, Ken
> 
> I'm running the latest Yosemite 10.10.3, installed 4/16.  My Parallels, 
> however, is 10.1.2, which needs to be updated to 10.2.0.  No problems.
> 
> Planning on doing that this morning.  I'll let you know (if I'm still alive!).
> 
> Dan Covill
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:14:26 -0500
> > Subject: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?
> > From: foxh...@information-architecture.com
> > To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> >
> > Ed, Ted (?), others on Macs...
> >
> > The combination of the new Mac OS update and the new version of parallels
> > seems to have toasted my computer.
> >
> > Is anyone else having issues?
> >
> > Ken
> >
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RE: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Ken

I'm running the latest Yosemite 10.10.3, installed 4/16.  My Parallels, 
however, is 10.1.2, which needs to be updated to 10.2.0.  No problems.

Planning on doing that this morning.  I'll let you know (if I'm still alive!).

Dan Covill


> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:14:26 -0500
> Subject: [NF][Parallels] Toasted my computer?
> From: foxh...@information-architecture.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Ed, Ted (?), others on Macs...
>
> The combination of the new Mac OS update and the new version of parallels
> seems to have toasted my computer.
>
> Is anyone else having issues?
>
> Ken
>
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RE: [NF] Suggestions for Free Anti-Spyware?

[Dan Covill]

I find AdwCleaner a good complement to MalwareBytes.  It concentrates on known 
hitchhikers like Conduit and the phony toolbars, whether they qualify as 
viruses or not.  It will flush out add-ons in browsers also.

Dan Covill


> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:56:33 -0400
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
> Subject: [NF] Suggestions for Free Anti-Spyware?
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> We've been using MalwareBytes and Spybot Search & Destroy for periodic
> full-system scans to detect malware. We don't use them for real-time
> defense; we have Avast for that.
>
> Lately, on machines where MalwareBytes will pick up one or two items,
> Spybot has not been detecting anything except the same tracking cookie. I
> had been thinking about ditching it for a while, and then today discovered
> that the 1.6.2 version no longer detects any pattern updates. The 2.x
> version does, but it is bloatware and a PITA to configure--and in the end,
> it doesn't find anything unless you configure it to detect things that no
> anti-malware in its right mind should detect.
>
> So I am looking for a new option for periodic full-system scans.
>
> SuperAntiSpyware seems to get good reviews. Does anyone here have an
> opinion on it?
>
> Are there other options I should consider for free anti-spyware/malware
> system-scans?
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Ken Dibble
> www.stic-cil.org
>
>
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RE: Could Windows Go Open Source?

[Dan Covill]

Who would want to work on it?

Can't you see volunteering to, say, extend the functionality of the Registry?  
Or straightening out the account permissions?  MS' long tradition is to solve 
problems by adding complexity and dumping the responsibility on the users.
Yukkkh!

Dan


> From: alanpbou...@fastmail.fm
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Could Windows Go Open Source?
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 22:42:51 +0100
>
> I don't think it will. The corporate world would want a stable official
> 'distro' from MS.
> --
> Alan Bourke
> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

  
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RE: [NF] 5 habits for Enterprise Developers

[Dan Covill]

I do have a mini-framework consisting of de-minimis versions of my Entry and 
Main programs.  With the standard procedure library I can get a new app sort of 
running in a couple of hours.

The heavy lifting is done by two procedures - a generalized Browse proc that 
generates the grid and command buttons from parameters, and a BuildView that 
generates an scx for a specific DBF record.  The Browse has saved us a TON of 
work - my partner's (commercial) system has over 200 browse windows -each and 
every one done with a call to the standard Browse.

Oh yes, a third timesaver.  A generalized Report Preview function, with 
Print/Save/eMail options.
A non-trivial benefit of these; because all Browses use the same procedure, 
they all look similar and they all work the same way, which the users greatly 
appreciate.

Dan Covill


> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 07:43:07 -0500
> Subject: [NF] 5 habits for Enterprise Developers
> From: srussell...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Everything revolves around mobile in the article but what is said follows
> to what ever environment you are working in.
>
> http://sdtimes.com/guest-view-the-five-habits-of-highly-effective-enterprise-app-developers/
>
> They stated reuse code which is a duh statement.
>
> How do VFP programmers do this? Do they have an existing ,app with tried
> and tested functions that do what you want? Do you have a function that
> will query a backend db, any flavor, and return a cursor baecause you
> passed params for the query string as well as the data location?
>
> Or is that unique to every app that you write today?
>
> My Base project holds classes for data access, string manipulation, regEx,
> date manipulation, time manipulation, statistical analysis just to name a
> few of the high points.
>
> What do you so?
>
> --
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> Sr. Analyst
> Ring Container Technology
> Oakland TN
>
> 901.246-0159 cell
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RE: [NF] SQL Server 2008 R2 Developer Version

[Dan Covill]

A couple of days ago I stumbled over this:
   https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh510202.aspx

It's a new form of SQL Server Express called "LocalDB", and is supposed to 
reduce required complexity and overhead for software developers/testers.  Looks 
good but I haven't investigated further.
It's free.

Dan

> From: rk...@invaluable.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: [NF] SQL Server 2008 R2 Developer Version
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 22:08:04 +
> 
> SSMS = SQL Server Management Studio. This is actually the 2008 R2 version I 
> just found.
> 
> 
> 
> And then there's the 2014 download but it's not 100% clear to me if this is 
> time limited in any way since the page refers to "eval".
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> rk
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
> Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:59 PM
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] SQL Server 2008 R2 Developer Version
> 
>   I need the enterprise manager (or whatever it is called now) software 
> because I don't have time to learn to manipulate express.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
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RE: [NF] its-not-always-quicker-to-do-things-in-memory

[Dan Covill]

If you re-read the report, they were not "creating a 1MB string in memory", 
they were concatenating thousands of sub-strings until they had 1 MB.  It's the 
concatenation implementation that took all the time, because each instance 
allocated new memory space, did the concat, then released the old memory.

I ran into this some years ago, when a colleague had a VFP program that was 
running very slowly.  The problem was the same; he was generating a small piece 
of output text, concatenating it to what he already had, then generating the 
next piece, etc.  The solution was to generate all the pieces in an array, then 
do one big concat.

I suspect it was the malloc that was the culprit, not the concat.

Dan


> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 09:46:57 +
> Subject: Re: [NF] its-not-always-quicker-to-do-things-in-memory
> From: trukke...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> Interesting. It's certainly faster on my box (VFP9 SP2 on XP SP3) to create
> a 1 Mb string in memory and do one write than to do 1,000,000 calls to
> STRTOFILE(, ,1). In memory took about 690 ms, the other
> method took over 10 secs to do 7000 writes.

  
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RE: FoxproDOS - No APP after BUILD APP

[Dan Covill]

Kevin:

I still have FoxPro DOS 2.6, without the distribution kit.  I never could build 
.exes, but my client deliverables were all Apps.  I had the need to verify that 
a couple months ago, so I ran FoxProX and did
   build app PartsInvc from PI
where PI.pjx is the project, and it still works.  

Dan



> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:32:43 -0400
> From: kcu...@cullytechnologies.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: FoxproDOS - No APP after BUILD APP
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> I *used* to have the err file when there were errors in the (decompiled)
> code. I'm able to run the BUILD process without getting a MyApp.err
> file now but I'm not getting a MyApp.app file at the end of the process.
>
>
> On 03/26/2015 03:29 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
>> What's in the err file?
>>

  
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RE: [NF] Had me at dump javascript.

[Dan Covill]

I agree with your title, Stephen!

The article is of course correct, but they seem to think it's some sort of new 
technology, rather than re-discovering a simple fact.  If your page is in one 
file it loads a whole hell of a lot faster than if you chop it into 30 
different pieces, each in its own file.  What a surprise!  And it doesn't 
really matter whether you did it in JavaScript or with links.  

And it's anybody's guess who told the author that leaving out JavaScript could 
somehow be defined as HTML6.

Dan


> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 08:21:39 -0500
> Subject: [NF] Had me at dump javascript.
> From: srussell...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> http://www.cio.com/article/2900308/developer/developer-dump-javascript-for-faster-web-loading.html
>
> Single page design here.
>
> --
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RE: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs on Mac and Nix.

[Dan Covill]

+1

Dan

> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:09:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs 
> on Mac and Nix.
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> 
> The only purpose of IE is to download a real browser.
> 
> -- 
> Ted Roche
> Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
> http://www.tedroche.com
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RE: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs on Mac and Nix.

[Dan Covill]

News Flash!

Alan Bourke continues to use "Reply All" instead of "Reply", thus deluging 
ProFox readers with duplicate postings.


Dan


> From: alanpbou...@fastmail.fm
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs 
> on Mac and Nix.
> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:30:39 +
>
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, at 07:16 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>
>> OMG, maybe next they'll drop the oddball pathing notation
>
> You mean in the routes in MVC?
>
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RE: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs on Mac and Nix.

[Dan Covill]

I  don't think so.  From what little I know of ASP.net, it's a framework for 
building webpages, and never did have C++ in its bag of tricks.  C++ is a 
system programming language - it has no place in the Website world.  
 
But VB is way older and more obsolete than VFP, however.  Small loss.

Dan


> From: jarnd...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 11:47:27 +0530
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] M$ makes significant changes to .NET programming like runs 
> on Mac and Nix.
>

> not only VB, also presumably C++

  
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RE: [NF] 11 Rules All Programmers should live by.

[Dan Covill]

+1

Dan


> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:38:59 -0700
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: ge...@telus.net
> Subject: Re: [NF] 11 Rules All Programmers should live by.
>
> At 07:42 2015-03-19, Stephen Russell  wrote:
>>http://simpleprogrammer.com/2015/03/16/11-rules-all-programmers-should-live-by/
>>
>>Interesting opinion on comments. They are Evil ???
>
> Not interesting, but rather a boring whine that I have read all
> too many times before.
>
> Yes, it is possible to write bad comments. That is not a
> reason for not writing any comments.
>
> As to the bit about comments not being updated, not updating
> comments along with the rest of the source is effectively putting bugs in 
> code.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
>
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RE: Double copies

[Dan Covill]

No dupes here.

Dan


> From: adam.buckl...@eurohill.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Double copies
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:00:33 +
>
> Is anyone else suddenly getting double copies of all posts?
>
> Adam
>
> PS It¹s not alcohol induced...
>
>
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RE: Source Code Version Control

[Dan Covill]

As I've said before, I gave Mercurial a try and was extremely impressed.  I'm 
not using it right now because I have no active programming projects, but I 
wouldn't even consider anything but Git or Mercurial for the job, especially in 
comparison to an antique like SourceSafe.

I especially liked the Tortoise UI (versions available for both Git and 
Mercurial). They patch Windows Explorer so you get little green dots in Detail 
view beside files that are saved, which change to red if you've updated it 
without committing it yet.  Really nice. 
This is VERY mature software - I tried lots of things I didn't understand very 
well, but nothing that didn't work.  A couple of key plusses:

+ There is no Master Control regulating what you can and can't do.  You don't 
have to log in to some remote storage to commit changes. You can (and I did) 
simply designate the master to be a sub-folder of my project folder - 
everything worked like a charm. When I moved my project to my laptop (for a 
little road work) the master went along for the ride.  
No problem, because I can decide whenever I want to whether to merge the two 
forks, leave them split, or just adopt one and abandon the other.  It's just so 
easy to do what you want to do.

+ I didn't really see any problem with the dreaded 'object files' of a VFP 
application.  Yes, an SCX/SCT combo isn't all text, and displaying the lines 
that are different is a bit hard to read, but it does show you which files have 
changed and what the changes are.  If you have my habit of adding dated comment 
lines describing the changes in a "zreadme" method, they they kind of pop out 
at you and who needs to look at the binary/FXP code?

+ These guys are FREE!!!  It will take you about a half hour to download one 
and give it a try. Quit analyzing the rumor mill and become your own first-hand 
authority.

I agree with Paul that the weight of market share seems to have swung to Git.  
But they both work, and the price is right.

Good luck.  I'm sure you'll be pleased.

Dan

> Subject: Re: Source Code Version Control
> From: p...@mcnettware.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:32:27 -0800
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> What Ted said. Plus the observation that all Python projects I've come across 
> have used git, not hg. 
> 
> And that gitlab and gitorious are two github-like projects that allow self 
> hosting for no cost. 
> 
> Paul
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RE: Text box formatting

[Dan Covill]

Sytze,

As I read you, you want the user to input up to 40 INDIVIDUAL 4-character 
codes.  I would tend to display an 
EditBox for the 200-char field (it may well wrap), and below it use a 4-byte 
TextBox, with a few buttons beside it for OK, Junk, AddAnother, and Done.

You then have a simple, controllable input of each code, with the user able to 
repeat this as many times as necessary.  As each code is accepted you add it to 
the display in the EditBox, so user can see whether he's done or not.

Using an input mask saves you code, but neither you nor the users will ever 
figure out exactly how it works and errors will abound.

Dan Covill


> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:17:44 +1300
> Subject: Text box formatting
> From: sytze.k...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>
> I have a 200 char field
> When data is input, I want to force maximum 4 char input, but there may be
> 40 such sets
>
> I have tried input mask space space space space dash, 40 times
> I have tried =replicate(" -",40) (4 spaces and a dash)
> Neither seems to work
>
> Can anyone help me?
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Sytze de Boer

  
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RE: New Assistant

[Dan Covill]

It should be obvious that all right-thinking people (like, for example, Paul 
and myself) have long known that spaces are part of God's plan (tm).  
Unfortunately, in some cases we have failed in our mission to impart that 
wisdom to the great army of the unwashed, for which omission we will doubtless 
pay dearly in the afterlife.

I do like the idea of the 160-space indent, though.

Dan


> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:14:44 -0800
> From: p...@mcnettware.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: New Assistant
>
> I like to indent my vfp code by 160 spaces (so nobody can easily read my
> code). Because everyone could set their own tab width and defeat my
> clever copy protection, spaces are the clear winner.
>
> Seriously though, tabs don't belong in source code. Your editor needs to
> be set to expand tabs to whatever the prior convention is of the project
> at hand. I've found 2-4 spaces per tab to be ideal, and that range
> covers 99.9% of the (non-vfp) projects I've worked on.
>
> Stick with convention.
>
> Paul

  
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RE: [NF] Recommendation for personal accounting program/service for Mac or web

[Dan Covill]

The two Free candidates are GnuCash (open source) and Express Accounts.  I 
haven't used either, but GnuCash says personal or business, while Express 
Accounts is designed for small businesses.

I've been planning to try GnuCash, but I'm still running my old VFP accounting 
system!
Let me know where you end up.

Dan


> From: pro...@bdurham.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: [NF] Recommendation for personal accounting program/service for Mac 
> or web
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:15:52 -0500
>
>
> Looking for a recommendation regarding a personal accounting program for
> the Mac or the web. We're currently using Quicken for Windows for our
> personal finances. This is the last program we have to migrate from
> Windows before we become a 100% Mac based household. My initial thought
> was to migrate to Quicken 2015 for Mac but the Amazon reviews for this
> product are very disheartening. 2nd on the list was the online version
> of Mint (now owned by Quicken) ... I love the UI but we like to run a
> lot of reports on our spending and Mint's reporting seems very weak.
>
> We're using the web based version of QuickBooks for our business. I'm
> happy with this service but it seems overly expensive/complicated for
> our personal finances.
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> Thanks! Malcolm
>
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RE: boy, I'm rusty

[Dan Covill]

In fact, the index tags are compacted so that the leading characters that are 
the same as the preceding entry's are represented simply by a binary number!  
So all your entries from Minneapolis use just a couple of bytes.

Dan


> From: rk...@invaluable.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: boy, I'm rusty
> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:24:52 +

> I would dump all that trimming; city and state columns usually aren't so wide 
> that you need to worry about storage in the DB or the overall width of the 
> index tag. 
  
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RE: [NF] Windows 10

[Dan Covill]

Monthly rental?  Surely you don't think MS would do anything so mean and 
grasping as that!  It will be a yearly rental.

Dan


> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:05:03 -0600
> From: m...@ggisoft.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 10
>
> ...and then a monthly rental?
>
> Mike
>
> Alan Bourke wrote:
>> So - free for 12 months for upgrades from 7 and 8. Not bad. For
>> Microsoft.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm
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RE: Training Suggestions

[Dan Covill]

Dave,

My first programming assignment was to maintain part of a (very large) existing 
system.  I am eternally grateful, because a) it is much easier to fix/modify a 
working program than to try to create one and b) you learn a lot about how NOT 
to do some things.  So the maintenance is a great initial assignment.

Don't give him an assignment as an 'observer' and expect him to learn by 
watching other folks solve problems.  Make him responsible for solving the 
problems, and let the experienced hands be the observers, providing information 
and help as necessary.  You learn way faster by doing than by watching.

Dan


> From: da...@flexipol.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Training Suggestions
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 14:43:45 +
>
> Stephen,
> Short to medium term is to support and maintain the legacy VFP system and 
> maybe gradually convert it over onto maybe C#. Having said that we are still 
> converting from DBF's onto SQL at the moment after about 12 months work and 
> only 40% completed so there is lots of new work that will still involve VFP 
> coding.
>
> Dave
>

  
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RE: Programming aptitude test

[Dan Covill]

Dave,

You're right about the odd connection between programming and music.  I'm not 
musical myself, but when I started programming (in 1958) I remember being 
struck by the number of people in my class who were musicians.  And I've seen 
it many other times over the years.

I'm not a big fan of trying to automate the selection process.  A test can be 
helpful, but you're trying to add a human being to your team, not a test-taking 
robot, so you can't escape the responsibility of exercising judgment.  And you 
can't escape the non-zero probability of making a mistake, either.  So have a 
plan for what you're going to do if it doesn't work out.

Thirty years ago, I hired the first non-white manager in my facility.  Three 
months later, I made Personnel very, very unhappy by firing the first non-white 
manager in my facility.

Dan Covill


> From: da...@flexipol.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Programming aptitude test
> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 14:56:28 +
>
> Jeff,
> I came across these selection of tests by Kent University and they would seem 
> to fit the bill. I have page scraped the example ones and use them as the 
> basis for evaluation of the applicants, that is unless anyone else has any 
> better ideas. It really is difficult to devise tests that are not 
> "programming specific" when you come at it from a professional perspective. 
> But Basically I am looking for an aptitude in Mathematics and funnily enough 
> music as being able to play an instrument with all the dexterity/mental 
> adaptation seems to be a good yardstick of the attributes required. Whether 
> or not that makes you a good musician is another matter! I like to think so 
> but I leave others to judge!
>
> Dave
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RE: [NF] "Well, THAT's Weird!" (tm)

[Dan Covill]

Just thinking about this, and you might take a look at the Environment 
variables.  Lots of use gets made of %system%, %temp%, and the like.  My win 
8.1 doesn't have any names pointing to C:\Program Files (x86), but that doesn't 
say nobody ever did that.

If there was a 'VFPpath' variable pointing to C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft 
Visual Foxpro and it got edited by something that would cause the result you're 
seeing. 

Dan Covill


> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 11:11:04 -0500
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] "Well, THAT's Weird!" (tm)
>
>
>>Today's Windows Mystery involves all of the development shortcuts on our
>>desktop breaking.
>>
>>All were pointed to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual FoxPro\..."
>>that continued on and pointed to a specific config file we use to start the
>>app, and a start directory.
>>
>>All the shortcuts changed to "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Foxpro\..."
>>without the "(X86)" in the path name. The files are installed and working
>>on the x86 path.
>
> I have seen weirdness with shortcuts related to user profile
> corruption. Very strange changes, such as, all of a sudden,
> double-clicking any desktop shortcut won't work, but right-clicking
> it and choosing "Open" will. And only in one user's profile; the
> shortcuts continue to work in other profiles.
>
> Deleting and re-creating user profiles is an annoying and tedious
> activity, but shouldn't take terribly long if you have a
> high-bandwidth connection to wherever you backup the user's data to.
> Might be something to try.

  
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RE: Create records in VFP 9 from email message?

[Dan Covill]

Good thinking, Ted.  This sounds like the right way to go in today's world.  Do 
whatever you have to do to turn it into a data processing job, then VFP to the 
rescue!

Dan Covill


> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 08:52:10 -0500
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
>
> Something like Email2DB sounds ideal at handling the first of the tasks:
> intercepting the mail and converting it to data. Rather than dumping
> directly into VFP DBFs, I'd recommend a database server such as SQLite or
> MariaDB. These are robust and reliable database servers, unencumbered by
> commercial licenses, that won't need their tables packed (well, not too
> often) or their indexes reindexed, and are intended to run 24x7.
>
> Then, write a VFP app to periodically read through the data and pluck out
> the new info you need.
>

  
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RE: [NF] Retrieving Data from a Web Site

[Dan Covill]

Now THAT is good news!   Hooray for you guys.

Dan


> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:22:09 -0700
> From: j...@san-dc.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Retrieving Data from a Web Site
>
> Look what we found:
>
> *7. Obligations upon Termination*. Upon expiration or other termination,
> all rights granted hereunder shall forthwith terminate, and: (a) 
> shall immediately cease to provide Hosting Services to Customer and
> Customer shall cease to have any right to use the Software in any
> manner; (b) Customer shall make all payments due  as of the date of
> termination or expiration in accordance with the payment provisions set
> forth in the Agreement and applicable Schedules; (c)  shall provide
> an electronic extract copy of the Customer’s Data and upon receipt from
> Customer of all outstanding amounts then owing , shall forward such
> Data to Customer electronically or on machine-readable media; and (d)
>  may delete all of Customer’s Data in ’ possession and control
> and not retain any copies, and, upon written request and receipt of
> payment from Customer of all outstanding amounts then owing , shall
> provide certification to Customer that all such Data has been destroyed
> and that no copies have been retained by .
>
>  was bought out by  and  is trying to charge $15,000. There
> is no new contract with .
😊
  
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RE: [NF] Retrieving Data from a Web Site

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Jeff

Some thoughts on your situation:
1. Does client have any other backup of the data?  How often/how old?
2. Is the system accessing the data in VFP?   If not, what?
3. If you have a VFP program that can access the SQL, you can write a data dump 
program for a hell of a lot less than $15k!
4. If you don't already have a VFP program that can access the SQL, you can 
still write one for less than $15k.
5. Seems to me it's your customer that should contact the attorney to see what 
his legal rights are.  Not you.
6. Legal action always favors the party with the most money.
7. No matter what you do, you need to find another hosting company.  There are 
lots and lots of them.

You need to know exactly what the agreement between your customer and the 
hosting company is.  How much, how often, and for exactly what services.  And 
who negotiated it?  Do you really have a dog in this fight or are you just 
trying to help?  

I think the hosting company is trying to screw your client, but there may not 
be a whole log of benefit for you in preventing that 
(e.g., if the hosting company is run by your client's son-in-law!).  I pretty 
much favor writing a data dump that runs on the client's system, because then 
it doesn't matter who the hosting company is; you have control.

Dan



> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:48:55 -0700
> From: j...@san-dc.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: [NF] Retrieving Data from a Web Site
>
> I mentioned before that a customer of mine has critical data stored on a
> web site and currently subscribes to that web site. It is case
> information and documents for a funeral home. The company said they
> would provide an export of the SQL Server tables for $15,000! This is
> the funeral home's data and they have to pay $15,000 to get a copy of
> it. They will not just give us a backup of the tables.
>
> Does anyone know what options we have?
>
> Should we contact an attorney?
>
> --
> Jeff

  
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RE: Network Slow Query

[Dan Covill]

Tracy,

How about Reprocess and/or Multilocks?   The system with the two tables related 
might be doing temporary locks when moving between records.  ??

Dan


> From: tr...@powerchurch.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Network Slow Query
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:02:27 -0500
>
>>From a workstation, when no other workstation has the two tables in question
> the query takes 2.5 seconds
> After another workstation opens the tables and relates them to display the
> information in form, the query takes 45 to 60 seconds.
>
> Locally the query takes 0.7 seconds.
>
> Table1.dbf - 33,232 KB
> Table1.cdx - 16,438 KB
>
> Table2.dbf - 10,808 KB
> Table2.fpt - 205,424 KB
> Table2.cdx - 3,284 KB
>
> ---
>
> In testing this, I have setup in VM's 2 Windows 7 workstations, and 1
> Windows 8. Win7-2 is hosting on a shared drive. Win7-1 is doing the query.
> Win8 is just opening and relating the tables.
>
> The time to get the results in the VM's is
> SMB2 - ON
> Single User - 1.937
> Multi user - 13.454
> SMB2 - OFF
> Single user - 1.422
> Multi user - 11.813
>
> Using the Resource Monitor I see 63 Mbps when multi users have the table. I
> see> 300 Mbps when single user.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on what options I need to look at to help the
> query speed up?
>

  
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RE: SELECT SQL

[Dan Covill]

Tables don't have record pointers; only programs do.

To the best of my knowledge and research (look up DBF header format), there is 
no concept of a 'record pointer' in a DBF.   Yes, your running program that has 
the DBF open has a record pointer, and so does any other program that has the 
same file open, but they have no knowledge of nor control over each other's 
pointer values.  

A record pointer is NOT part of the relational database concept; although it 
would be pretty hard to implement a relational database without one.

Dan

> From: paul.new...@pegasus.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: SELECT SQL
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:45:15 +
>
> Hi all
>
> Does anybody know if executing a SQL Select command/statement CAN result in 
> record pointers in open tables being moved? My testing seems to indicate that 
> record pointers are NOT moved but I need to be sure.
>

  
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RE: foxprox pauses

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Jerry

I seem to remember a patch for 'too fast' machines that we had to use 
sometimes.  It might have been required only for FPW (windows), I'm not sure.  
Might look in the ProFox archives.
(I never needed it)

Dan


> From: jer...@footegroup.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: foxprox pauses
> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 19:01:01 -0600
> 
> I have a customer running a program i wrote in 1990 in fox for dos with a
> dos os, he has installed the program on a new machine running win xp.
> the problem is now the program stops and waits for 5 minutes. I went over
> today and ran the program interactively and found the program was stopping
> at random spots. The thing I noticed was the speed of execution, it was
> fast. I'm wondering if the machine is too fast. Any one have a suggestion on
> how to slow the machine, or anything to suggest why the program pauses.
> Thanks Jerry
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RE: [NF] Shared Hosting Website Performance

[Dan Covill]

Kevin,

Just tried it, both in Windows (FireFox) and Mac (Safari) at 12:10 Eastern 
time.  Home page came up in 1 second or less in both cases, and I saw no delays 
in navigation.

Whatever the problem is, it isn't there during lunch hour!

Dan Covill
San Diego



> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:20:50 -0500
> From: kcu...@cullytechnologies.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: [NF] Shared Hosting Website Performance
>
> I help run the Atlanta Area Database Users' Society (formerly the
> Atlanta Foxpro Users Group) by maintaining the website and it's content.
> The performance is really bad. It has been bad. I'm finally trying to
> figure out what is going on.
>
> Website: http://aadbus.org
> Hosting Co: Lunarpages.com shared plan
> Software: WordPress 4.0
>
> Error Logs: Appear empty
> Ping Times: 80ms which is a bit slow but on par with another web site I
> have hosted at Lunarpages (http://cully.biz)
> TraceRoute: Nothing is really jumping out at me.
>
>
> Stats for 19 Nov 2014:
> -
> CPU Usage - %0.14
> MEM Usage - %0.01
> Number of MySQL procs (average) - 0.06
> Top Process %CPU 5.60 /usr/bin/php
> /home/afug00/public_html/aadbus.org/index.php
> Top Process %CPU 5.20 /usr/bin/php
> /home/afug00/public_html/aadbus.org/index.php
> Top Process %CPU 5.10 /usr/bin/php
> /home/afug00/public_html/aadbus.org/index.php
>
>
> I could contact their support line but to be honest their support isn't
> very good.
>
> Ideas or tips?
>
>
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RE: VFP9 development environment

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Mike

I'm on the opposite side, I dock my command window as a matter of course.  But 
I have found that, when I start a new project, it won't dock until I create a 
config.fpw file in the directory.    I think it has to do with development = on.

Dan


> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:34:55 -0600
> From: m...@ggisoft.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: VFP9 development environment
>
> Thanks Richard.
>
> I'm sure that Docking has great benefits, just find it annoying that VFP
> decides to switch the forms to dockable for me. It's likely due to
> locking VFP up and exiting ungracefully. I'll check the Foxuser.dbf to
> see if there's any problem there. I would bet that deleting the
> Foxuser.dbf would resolve the problem, but then you loose the command
> history, etc.
>
> Mike
>
> Richard Kaye wrote:
>> Check the DOCK WINDOW topic in the help file.
>>
>> I use an intellisense shortcut when I do want my command window docked. 
>> Dockable windows can be very nice when you have multiple monitors as you can 
>> move the docked windows outside of the main VFP window. For example, in my 
>> main dev environment I keep my command window, properties window, data 
>> session, code refs, etc. on my 2nd monitor. Also, I keep the trace window 
>> docked at the top of the debug frame with the other components below that.
>>
>> Check your foxuser file for any saved prefs. I think dock state may be in 
>> there although it's possible this is one of those things that lives in the 
>> registry instead...
>>
>> --
>>
>> rk
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Copeland
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:49 PM
>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
>> Subject: VFP9 development environment
>>
>> Okay, there are much worse problems in this world, but something that annoys 
>> me very often is how VFP9 SP2 (on Win7 Pro) frequently and randomly starts 
>> up in development mode with some of the windows in "Dockable" mode.
>>
>> I don't want Dockable mode. I don't like Dockable mode. I don't even know 
>> what Dockable mode is for!!!
>>
>> Usually it's the Command window. But today, randomly, it's the Trace window, 
>> the Properties window, etc.
>>
>> Is there a way, other than right-click on the offending window's title bar 
>> and un-checking the "Dockable" option, to tell VFP that Dockable is 
>> verbotten?
>>
>> Thanks, I feel better now.
>>
>> YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
>> Sorry.
>>
>> Mike Copeland
>>
>>
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RE: VFPENCRYPTION

[Dan Covill]

Paul,

What Mike said.  Since the task is near-enough to impossible, we need to hear 
more
about why you 'need' to do it.

Most likely, the reason ENCRYPT is in an FLL is that is wasn't practical to do 
it in native fox code; 
it's probably in C++ (or C# or Java or something similar).  And if MS found it 
infeasible, then I'd guess 
you're going to have a little trouble with it also.

So it's time to give a bit more thought to what the REAL problem is.  Sounds 
like you need encryption
but something is getting in the way of using the FLL.  So,
   a. What alternative encryption methods are available?
   b. Why isn't the FLL working?
An answer to either one should solve your problem.

(I'm always a bit flabbergasted by questions along the general line of, "My 
boss wants me to re-write
Windows in Visual Basic.  How do I do that?")

Dan


> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:20:41 -0500
> From: mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: VFPENCRYPTION
>
> On 2014-11-18 11:40, Paul Newton wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I need to be able to replicate the ENCRYPT function in VFPENCRYPTION
>> in native fox code rather than loading the FLL. Any ideas?
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Why can't you just use the FLL?
>
> --Mike

  
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RE: Filtering

[Dan Covill]

Another case in point on this idea:

My auto repair shop client asked me to alter the phone fields on his Customer 
and Work Order records.
They were originally labelled Home Phone and Work Phone.  He wanted a third #, 
but also a different concept.
What he wanted were three fields of 20 characters, so that he could put phone 
numbers in priority order, with 
the note afterward.  Almost exactly as Ted's examples:
   888-555-1212  Work
   619-272-2411 Cell
   619-272-8831  Wife

I've done phones that way ever since.

Dan


> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:59:01 -0500
> From: mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Filtering
>
> On 2014-11-13 19:23, Ted Roche wrote:
>> I've found my clients are delighted if I give them room to type in what
>> they mean, like:
>>
>> "603-555-1212 weekends"
>>
>> or "888-555-1212 x1234"
>>
>> or "800-555-1212 9-noon MWF"
>>
>> or "603-555-1212 or -1213"
>>
>> or my favorite "JUniper6-2352"
>>
>> Unless you're using a computerized means to dial the phone, let them
>> type
>> whatever they want. Trust them to do what they are supposed to do.
>>
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>
>
> He's right. Easier and they (typically) love it moreso.
>
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RE: Formtting Social Security Number with TRANSFORM()

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This is of some interest to me, because my SSN has two leading zeroes and two 
trailing zeroes!

If the SSN is stored as a numeric (should NEVER do that, but history is what it 
is), you need BOTH 
the L and R codes:
   transform(NumericSSN, '@LR 999-99-')

If it's stored as a string, then the simple @R will work.

Dan Covill

Note:  I composed this using the Plain Text option in outlook.com.  Here's 
hoping!


> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:57:41 -0600
> From: m...@ggisoft.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Formtting Social Security Number with TRANSFORM()
>
> The only way it fails for me is if the first character is a 0.
> Otherwise, it seems fine with or without the @R.
>
> TRANSFORM(990059688, '999-99-') produces 990-05-9688
>
> Mike Copeland
>
>
> mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
>> This works: WAIT WINDOW TRANSFORM('120406780','@R 999-99-')
>>
>> On 2014-11-12 13:39, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>>> I know it is possible to format a social security number with
>>> TRANSFORM() like this:
>>> = TRANSFORM(994959688, '999-99-')
>>> but it does not work if the number has one or two zeros.
>>>
>>> In a text box I can use a format KRLZ and it works in a textbox with
>>> an input mask, but can this be done with TRANSFORM() or do I need to
>>> write a UDF?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff
>
>
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RE: Formatting Test

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Dave:

Thanks for the link.  This is an attempt to send in 'plain text'.
This should be a new line.

And another, double spaced.

Like the poster on the forum you linked, I did NOT know there was a second set 
of options for a new message!

Dan


> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:45:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: Formatting Test
> From: davetha...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Dan Covill  wrote:
>> Thanks, Ted & Tracy
>> The only options Outlook.com gives me is Font and font size. I switched to
>> Courier to help keep the spacing rational, but it doesn't seem to help.
> 
> If you're talking about the outlook.com web interface you might want
> to have a look at this:
> 
> or 
> 
> dt
> 
> -- 
> Dave Thayer
> Denver, CO
> 
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RE: Formatting Test

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Thanks, Ted & Tracy
The only options Outlook.com gives me is Font and font size.  I switched to 
Courier to help keep the spacing rational, but it doesn't seem to help.
I sent an email to Ed Leafe this AM about it.  IIRC, ProFox removes HTML markup 
and sends plain text thru the list serve. I've looked at my messages in Hex, 
and they have 20 spaces and CRLF at the ends of the lines like they should. 
And when I send formatted code directly to myself, not thru ProFox, it arrives 
exactly as I intended.  So it seems to be something that Outlook.com is putting 
in that Ed's processing doesn't like.  
Wish I knew what it was.
Dan

> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 15:55:02 -0500
> Subject: Re: Formatting Test
> From: tedro...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> Dan:
> 
> Email clients are notoriously bad about formatting; email was intended for
> plain old ASCII 7-bit and most everything after that only works sometimes.
> >From viewing the original source, it looks like you are using Outlook.com
> which is relaying through Hotmail. I don't have an account there to
> compare, but I'd suggest (especially seeing the 'multipart/alternative' and
> 'text/html' at the end of the message) that you should dig around and see
> if you can find an option to send 'plain text' or the equivalent. I know
> when I've used Thunderbird, I've been able to  configure that on a
> client-by-client basis, and it works really well for mailing lists.
> 
> Otherwise, you might want to style the html you're writing with PRE tags
> and see if that translates better.
> 
> Or double-spacing, I've seen work with some clients.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dan Covill  wrote:
> 
> > The following code comes thru fine when I send it to myself.Let's see if
> > going thru ProFox changes things.
> > Test formatting with 'Reply' direct:for I = 1 to 15   do MyProc with 'x'
> >  .   Count = Count + 1endforend test
> > Dan Covill
> >
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RE: VFP: Different Display Themes Issue

[Dan Covill]

Gene,
What was 'supposed to' happen, and I believe what 'did' happen, was that your 
display is no longer using the Windows theme. I'm not clear on other effects 
because we've been using this in all apps since VFP9 was new. 
Our problem was weird colors on the grids, and the themes=.F. fixed it so we 
never looked much at spacing.
Dan

> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 11:45:49 -0800
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: ge...@telus.net
> Subject: RE: VFP: Different Display Themes Issue
> 
> At 11:19 2014-11-07, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
> >At 14:18 2014-11-05, Dan Covill  wrote:
> >>Gene:
> >>At the front of your program, put
> >>_screen.themes = .F.
> >>That makes the windows theme a non-issue.
> >
> >  It did nothing.  The problem is still there as it was before.
> 
>   Pardon.  It did solve the problem with the W getting clipped to 
> V, but the toolbar is still displaced from where it should be.  I was 
> hoping for  something (a setting, say) which would work on both systems.
> 
> >  What was supposed to happen anyway?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko

  

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Formatting Test

[Dan Covill]

The following code comes thru fine when I send it to myself.Let's see if going 
thru ProFox changes things.
Test formatting with 'Reply' direct:for I = 1 to 15   do MyProc with 'x'   
.   Count = Count + 1endforend test
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RE: Problem with Missing CDX

[Dan Covill]

John:
The exact same code is in my FP 2.6 DOS version of ErrTrap, which was last 
modified in 2000.  So it will work.  The 'retry' is what exits the ErrTrap with 
the DBF open, without the (missing) CDX.
If you don't have a generic ErrTrap procedure, you could just do  on 
error do CheckCdx while opening the DBF's and then put it back. 


Dan

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 17:19:59 -0800
> From: jsow...@americansentry.net
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Missing CDX
> 
> I like the trap the error message routine.  I found the sys(2018) 
> function.  I am concerned though re: when the error occurs vs. when it 
> is trapped.
> 
> I am running v2.6/DOS.  I have a standard error routine that even lets 
> me know when I come to work in the morning that an error occurred and 
> more info than I will need to fix it, but that is a fatal error.
> 
> Can I trap for the event, knowing that it might happen, without letting 
> it happen.  It sounds like errortrap is a vfp function.  I tried vfp 
> 5.0, it never ran, and by the time the next version came out I had moved 
> to Linux for my gui os.  I run 2.6/DOS either in DOS or Linux/dosemu.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/06/2014 03:16 PM, Dan Covill wrote:
> > John Sowden:   Re-formatting this msg per Tracy Pearson's suggestion:
> >
> > We solved this same problem with the following code in our ErrorTrap 
> > procedure:if error() = 1707 or upper(message(1)) = "STRUCTURAL CDX FILE NOT 
> > FOUND."
> > *-- ignore it, because our programs will build the index.
> > retry && which will open the file
> > endif
> > When you do 'use MyDBF' it triggers the error because the CDX is missing.  
> > This code ignoresthis particular error and opens the DBF without the CDX.  
> > You can then test for the CDXand do your re-creation.
> > Dan Covill  
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Re: Problem with Missing CDX

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John Sowden:   Re-formatting this msg per Tracy Pearson's suggestion:

We solved this same problem with the following code in our ErrorTrap 
procedure:if error() = 1707 or upper(message(1)) = "STRUCTURAL CDX FILE NOT 
FOUND."  
   *-- ignore it, because our programs will build the index. 
   retry && which will open the file
endif   
When you do 'use MyDBF' it triggers the error because the CDX is missing.  This 
code ignoresthis particular error and opens the DBF without the CDX.  You can 
then test for the CDXand do your re-creation.
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RE: problem with missing cdx file

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Thanks, Tracy.  I'll try that.
Dan

> From: tr...@powerchurch.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: problem with missing cdx file
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:06:19 -0500
> 
> Dan Covill wrote on 2014-11-06: 
> >  John:
> >  Can you read my message?  I pasted in 5 lines of code, which looked OK
> when I sent it but is all run together on the copy I got from ProFox.
> >  Dan
> > 
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Isn't outlook grand with that?
> To fix that, add at least 4 spaces before (or after) each line.
> 
> Tracy Pearson
> PowerChurch Software
> 
> 
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RE: problem with missing cdx file

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John:
Can you read my message?  I pasted in 5 lines of code, which looked OK when I 
sent it but is all run together on the copy I got from ProFox.
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RE: problem with missing cdx file

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We solved this same problem with the following code in our ErrorTrap procedure:
if error() = 1707 or upper(message(1)) = "STRUCTURAL CDX FILE NOT FOUND."   *-- 
ignore it, because our programs will build the index.   retry   
  && which will open the fileendif
When you do 'use MyDBF' it triggers the error because the CDX is missing.  This 
code ignoresthis particular error and opens the DBF without the CDX.  You can 
then test for the CDXand do your re-creation.
Dan Covill

> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:24:05 -0800
> From: jsow...@americansentry.net
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: problem with missing cdx file
> 
> I am trying to deal with a bad or missing cdx file.  I have a program 
> that recreates indices.  I test for the existence of the cdx file.  If 
> found I delete it.  Then I recreate the index with the various tags.
> 
> Problem is the program crashes if it cannot find the index the first 
> time.  Of course it changes the header to say there is no cdx file, so 
> my program runs fine the second time.
> 
> thoughts?
> 
> John

  

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RE: VFP: Different Display Themes Issue

[Dan Covill]

Gene:
At the front of your program, put 
_screen.themes = .F.
That makes the windows theme a non-issue.
Dan

> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 13:51:12 -0800
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: ge...@telus.net
> Subject: VFP: Different Display Themes Issue
> 
> Dear Vixens and Reynards:
> 
>   My boss has just reported a bit of a display issue with our VFP 
> app.  In looking over the issue, I have found a slightly bigger mess 
> and am wondering what I can do about it.
> 
>   The app was running in Product on Windows XP not so long ago, 
> and I still develop under it XP.
> 
>   I use the Windows Classic theme as I find it 
> clearer.  Production uses the default Windows theme (which I think of 
> as Windows FP (Fisher Price)).  It is much less clear to me, and so I 
> switched on my system.  More importantly is that "WFP" takes more 
> space, and the wider borders seem to be taking from the form display area.
> 
>   The form that was complained about has an input field whose 
> associated label has a screen .left of 0.  The first character of the 
> label is "W", but the form border covers it partially so that the 
> first character appears to be a "V".  Why is this happening?
> 
>   The original complaint is that the toolbar display that I have 
> for form operations is displaying over top of some of the input 
> controls.  On my system, the roolbar is just to the right of the 
> control.  On a Production system, it is displayed about 1 1/2 
> characters leftward.
> 
>   I suspect that these two issues are related.
> 
>   I suppose that I could kludge and simply position the toolbar 
> 20 or so pixels right, but I would like to understand why what is 
> happening is happening.  Why this difference, and what can I do about it?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko
> 
> 
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RE: VFP6: Calling a Form Method from another form....

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Desmond
In Form A:   do FormB with this.nameIn Form B:   parameters Caller   .   = 
Caller.MethodX()   
Dan Covill

> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:40:03 -0600
> Subject: VFP6: Calling a Form Method from another form
> From: desmond.ll...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> An odd question (perhaps)
> 
> Old VFP6 Code,  do form A,  button on form A calls form B.  Is there a way
> in form B  that I can call a method from form A.
> 
> Tried the link thing in the button calling form B in Form A,  but no joy.
> Tried referencing the name of form A  frmmyfrm.mymethod in form B but it
> complains that it cannot be find...
> 
> Would be easy to create the same method in form B,  but would prefer
> calling the same method in form B.
> 
> Any suggestions or am I barking up the wrong tree
> 
> TIA/Regards,
> Desmond

  

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RE: [NF] Old Dropbox accounts hacked

[Dan Covill]

You might try (carefully) deleting the existing LastPass entries (after writing 
down the contents!) and then going thru the drill and have LastPass re-do the 
setup.
What I'm getting from this discussion is that none of use are sure of exactly 
how LastPass decides whether to fill in a box or not.
Dan

> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:57:22 -0700
> From: p...@mcnettware.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Old Dropbox accounts hacked
> 
> On 10/24/14, 5:45 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
> > On Oct 23, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Dan Covill  wrote:
> >
> >> Wish I knew what to put in the bookmark to make LastPass see it, but it's 
> >> reliable enough so I can live with it.
> >
> > That's usually keyed on the domain name of the URL, so unless they are 
> > different, you won't be able to.
> 
> In my case I have www.sffirecu.org for the main page, and 
> rb.sffirecu.org for the login page with the popup, showing me my image, 
> phrase, and prompting for my password. I tried to fiddle with my Vault 
> to add separate entries for these but failed, but it looks like that's 
> what LastPass is trying to enable if I can just get the incantation correct.
> 
> Paul

  

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RE: Date selection

[Dan Covill]

Been there, done this (but not too often).

Write a function Fyear(date, user), which knows who has funny fiscal years and 
returns the Fiscal Year rather than the calendar year.
If user is empty it returns the calendar year, of course.

You'll find lots of opportunities to use it!

Dan Covill

> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:18:57 +1300
> Subject: Date selection
> From: sytze.k...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> Friends, I wonder if you can help
> 
> I have a dozen or so reports which are based on the following routine
> 
> SELECT client,stockcode,IIF(trantype='I',ttlamount,ttlamount*-1) as amount,
> YEAR(invdate) as year,invdate,sperson, stktype;
> FROM (lcSource) where trantype $ "CI" INTO table temp
> 
> When I then base a pivot report on the date Year factor, the columns are
> per Calendar year.
> 
> This is ok, except I now have a number of clients whose financial year is 1
> April to 31 March or other and are asking me to change this.
> 
> Does anyone have a quick work around for me.?


  

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RE: [NF] Old Dropbox accounts hacked

[Dan Covill]

I have two accounts that use the 2-step (NOT 2-factor) login.  (One is 
Vanguard.)  Each has two LastPass entries, one for the UserId and one for the 
pw.  Normally, in neither case will LastPass detect the UserId request, so I 
enter it manually.  In both cases, LastPass then autofills the password entry 
(which is on a different page).  

Occasionally I will get an autofill on the UserId.  This seems to happen when I 
did NOT go there from my bookmark, but replied to an alert link to the login 
page.

Wish I knew what to put in the bookmark to make LastPass see it, but it's 
reliable enough so I can live with it.

Dan

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:45:52 -0700
> From: p...@mcnettware.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Old Dropbox accounts hacked
> My banks call it 2-factor auth, but here it is in a nutshell:
> 
> 1) enter your user name or member number, hit submit
> 2) verify that the image and phrase matches what you entered originally, 
> enter password, and submit.
> 
> I can get lastpass to save the member number for 1 and the password for 
> 2, but it doesn't auto-fill them for me no matter what I try, and once I 
> have lastpass fill them, I still have to click 'submit' myself.
> 
> Paul

  

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RE: Windows 10

[Dan Covill]

There are two candidates for a reasonable explanation.
1. Windows 8 has acquired such a reputation that no enterprise willconsider 
using it or any variation.  Win 9 is considered an upgrade to 8 so is also 
Taboo.  Windows 10 creates a perceived distance.
2. Loads of applications developed in the NT/2000/XP era check to seewhether 
they're running on old 'Personal' windows (95 or 98) or on the'New Technology' 
versions.  They do this by looking for a '9'.
Maybe MS can solve the problem in their time-tested fashion, by renaming 
everything.
Dan Covill

> From: j...@johnweller.co.uk
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: RE: Windows 10
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:42:16 +0100
> 
> What happened to Windows 9? 
> 
> John Weller

  

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RE: Extreme Case of PRG File Corruption?

[Dan Covill]

Ken,
I seem to remember that in your initial description of this problem you stated 
that you 'commented out' the procedure/class definition from the original file. 
 Exactly how did you do this commenting out?
I've had several instances where I managed to get the same procedure name in 
more than one proc file, with the result that the program wasn't using the one 
I wanted it to.  IIRC, when you SET PROC TO multiple files, and the files 
contain duplicate procedures, VFP will use the one that it loaded last.  Is 
there a possibility that VFP somehow 'saw through' your commenting and used the 
old one anyway?  Or something.?
Did you actually REMOVE the original code and try it?
Dan Covill

> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:15:00 -0400
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: krdib...@stny.rr.com
> Subject: Re: Extreme Case of PRG File Corruption?
> 
> 
However, this 
> did not cause a problem before I moved the *completely unrelated* form 
> class out of that procedure file. 
  

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RE: Table Repair

[Dan Covill]

For the last several years I have used ShadowProtect, which is an 
industrial-strength backup system for businesses.  If you have MS Server it 
costs about $900, something called 'Small Business Server' is about $500, and 
'Desktop' (which is the one I used) costs $99.  Works flawlessly, scheduled 
full and incremental images, and sends you an email with the results.  And it 
doesn't care whether you're using the machine at the time or not.
There are several others free for personal use, but for a business the 
difference between spending $30-50 and $100 is pointless, it's reliability that 
matters.
Dan Covill

> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:19:14 +0100
> From: pcush...@whisperingsmith.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: Table Repair
> 
> Richard Kaye wrote:
> > Storage is cheap but you have to have a backup solution that knows how to 
> > handle open files and doesn't lock files itself when it does its magic. A 
> > subtlety that often escapes the folks too cheap to backup in the first 
> > place... 
> >   
> >
> That's the luxury model.  The basic model is just get everyone out (or 
> after hours) and copy it.  That's the backup I think there's no excuse 
> for not having.
> 
> Peter

  

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RE: square peg - square hole

[Dan Covill]

I think Virgil's on to something here.  If their 'macro' work flow is better 
when they move the stuff around first, then do the computer work, find a way to 
help with that scenario instead of forcing a different one.  
Why not try automating the Notepad - let them scan (n) boxes into a list, then 
in your app pick from the list.  At least it won't be full of typo's.
Dan Covill

> From: vbier...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: square peg - square hole
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:18:51 -0500
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> Juan had a case study about a similar problem in the 80's
> 
> Sounds to me like the solution is a portable scanner with a pick list program 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 1, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Mike Copeland  wrote:
> > 
> > Yep, tried that first thing, along with frank discussions with the users 
> > asking "why?" This has been a problem for years now, and the issue comes 
> > and goes as new employees cycle through. Management even installed wireless 
> > rechargeable hand-held scanners on multiple workstations that are located 
> > near the work/processing area...there's no reason anyone in management can 
> > come up with. They even tried moving a VP of operations to the warehouse 
> > processing office for a couple of months last summer to watch (from 8 to 5 
> > at least) and see what was "really" happening.
> > 
> > The only thing that makes sense, in the end-user's defense, is that they 
> > prefer to move boxes around for all their orders that need to be processed, 
> > then when the boxes are stacked up they go and do all their computer work 
> > for all their orders that need to be processed (instead of processing one 
> > order from pulling boxes to paper work to completion of order.) But we're 
> > talking personal preference here...the distance from the computer to the 
> > box staging area is about 12 feet.
> > 
> > Thanks, Virgil.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> >> Must be a process flow problem if they're going to that much trouble
> >> 
> >> Grab you a chair and watch their frustration with the process for a week 
> >> or month until you understand why they are going to that much effort
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Mike Copeland  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> All,
> >>> 
> >>> I have a problem with end users hand-keying information that should be 
> >>> scanned with a barcode scanner to improve accuracy.
> >>> 
> >>> Here's the gist of the issue...
> >>> Every piece of inventory has a barcode sticker on it representing a 
> >>> unique serial #, always 8 characters long.
> >>> (My application offers a way to reprint the barcode label in case this 
> >>> label gets torn, damaged.)
> >>> 
> >>> What I need to force, somehow, is that the # represented on the barcode 
> >>> label MUST be scanned by a simple barcode scan gun connected to the 
> >>> computer.
> >>> 
> >>> As ya'll know, all the scanner does is convert the barcode data into 
> >>> standard keyboard keystrokes and stuff the data into the keyboard 
> >>> buffer...really fast. In other words, a very fast, very accurate typist. 
> >>> But most importantly, the CORRECT # is input (so that the correct 
> >>> inventory item is recorded as 'processed.')
> >>> 
> >>> The problem is that the users hand-key the number at the prompt...and 
> >>> frequently hand-key it wrong.
> >>> 
> >>> So, to try to stop the hand-keying I removed the human-readable text 
> >>> under the barcode on the label. So now, you either scan it or you learn 
> >>> to read barcode by eye. One would hope/think that this would have solved 
> >>> the problem...but no.
> >>> 
> >>> Now (by watching security video footage) we find that they are
> >>> 1. opening Notepad
> >>> 2. scanning the barcodes, which enters the barcode data in human readable 
> >>> form, obviously
> >>> 3. then hand keying the data into my application when they should use the 
> >>> scanner.
> >>> 
> >>> And...errors are being made regularly. And, yes, training, threats, etc. 
> >>> have been tried.
> >>> 
> >>> From the application's viewpoint, the only difference between a barcode 
> &g

RE: VFP6 Severe memo bloat

[Dan Covill]

Hi, Desmond
Sounds to me like the links in the DBF have lost their way.Do the users see the 
existing memo, and just can't update it, or are the memos missing and/or 
scrambled?  I guess I'm asking if you did a repair operation on the DBF/FPT or 
just replaced the FPT file.  Anyway, if the links in the memo field don't point 
to the right place in the FPT you are well and truly hosed.
Best thing might be to get a repair program (I know nothing about Abri, but the 
one from Canada (Doug ??) is very good), put the original (bad) FPT file back, 
and see what you can do.
Also, I don't see where the problems would be in upgrading to VFP9, but that's 
another topic.
Dan CovillSan Diego

> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:30:29 -0500
> Subject: Re: VFP6 Severe memo bloat
> From: desmond.ll...@gmail.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> Further problems...  Now users are reporting that there updates are not
> being saved,  it's just a replace mymemo with m.mymemo?
> 
> Yikes,
> Regards,
> Desmond
> 
> 
> On 29 September 2014 11:23, Desmond Lloyd  wrote:
> 
> > No general fields.  I think the damage occurred when I issued a Pack
> > Memo,  however I didn't run that until after I had encountered the first
> > error.  (failure to run a report).
> > Do you think I would be wise I changing the block size?  Sounds like it.
> > I've got about 100 users accessing these memo fields (they're are nine in
> > the file)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Desmond
> >
> >
> > On 29 September 2014 10:25, Jack Skelley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Desmond:
> >> Are there any general fields in this table?
> >> I have seen issues when a general field is stored in a table the blot can
> >> be incredible. As you know the general field is stored in the FPT.
> >> I do store JPGs in general fields to be distributed in the system then
> >> when received the JPGs are extracted and saved in a separate folder. Then
> >> the distributed table is erased. The memo field of the receiving table now
> >> holds the file name as to where to load the JPG from.
> >> When I left the JPG in the memo field the blot was crazy large. So I
> >> wrote procedure that would set the blocksize of the for the FPT. When I did
> >> this the size of the FPT was dramatically reduced.
> >> I have not experienced much blot in VFP6 when a non-general field exists.
> >> Read in the help file about 'set blocksize' for the memo field.
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: ProfoxTech [profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] on behalf of Desmond
> >> Lloyd [desmond.ll...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 11:07 AM
> >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> >> Subject: VFP6 Severe memo bloat
> >>
> >> Good morning,
> >>
> >> Wanted to share with everyone and solicit any thoughts...
> >>
> >> Huge,  233 field,  over 200,000 record table with approximately 20 index
> >> tags.
> >>
> >> Runs under our manufacturing system,  it has been "relatively fine".  Have
> >> some issues with memo fields in the past.  Was able to correct by
> >> re-writing the file,  packing memo.
> >>
> >> About a month a ago started noticing some noticeable delays when running
> >> queries against this table.  Significant but they ran  Last night I
> >> started to run a report and it hung...  No error message,  nothing,  had
> >> to
> >> "force close" VFP...  Tried copying the file (with production) somewhere
> >> and that would bomb with fatal exception error.Tried different copy
> >> to,  next 100,  next 500 that kind of thing.  Accidentally ran into the
> >> fact that if I set a filter or ran a query for a certain condition it
> >> would  "would blow".  So I opened the culprit file,  set a filter to that
> >> condition,  made a copy of the structure and walked the filtered original
> >> scatter memvar appended blank to the copy and when it blew up I know what
> >> record was having the issue...
> >>
> >> ...so,  it turns out that some of the records had memo fields that were
> >> stuffed (in one case) with 125,000 characters!   This was after a pack
> >> memo.  Replacing the contents of the malcontent memo field resolved the
> >> issue  I finally identified six of these puppies,  made the
> >> replacement
> >> and all is well...
> >>
> >> Any suggestions, thoughts on how to avoid?  Was thinking of running a
> >> query
> >> for len(mymemofield) > 5000,  periodically and see what I find...  How in
> >> the blue blazes do you get 125,000 characters in a memo field?   obviously
> >> VFP6 does not like it...
> >>
> >> Appreciate the input,
> >> Regards,
> >> Desmond
> >>
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RE: [ADMIN] Help sponsor my ride

[Dan Covill]

Done.
Dan

> From: e...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Help sponsor my ride
> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 07:39:01 -0500
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> 
> The ride is about 2.5 weeks away, and I still need to raise more money for 
> research into a cure for MS (Multiple Sclerosis, not Microsoft!)
> 
> So if you feel as though you've gotten any value out of this list, and you 
> are in a position where you could spare a few bucks for a good cause, please 
> donate what you can here:
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> http://bit.ly/XpcFiJ
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> 
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> 
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RE: [NF] Dynamic Windows Shortcut

[Dan Covill]

> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:24:52 -0700
> From: p...@mcnettware.com
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Dynamic Windows Shortcut
> 
> 
> When I see someone working really hard to do something specific, and 
> there's some general pattern available that covers it, or a best 
> practice I'm aware of, I want to try to help.
> 
> Sorry if it was noise.
> 
> Paul
> 

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RE: [NF] Dynamic Windows Shortcut

[Dan Covill]

Gene,
I just learned something new.  Didn't know 'build project' existed!I will be 
using that.  Thank you.
Dan Covill

> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:44:32 -0700
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> From: ge...@telus.net
> Subject: Re: [NF] Dynamic Windows Shortcut
> 
>   Actually, it is a fairly simple program.  Mine simply 
> works.  It has gone over nine years without a change.  I do not think 
> that I have ever had to modify it.  The code follows.  I think that 
> you can figure out the bits that you need to change.
> 
>   The include file cbs2.h contains only one thing that this program needs:
>#define CHRCR chr(13)
> 
> * Start of Included Code *
> * cbs2load
> * Loader Program for CBS2
> * Last Modification: 2005-07-21
> 
> *  This program checks that the local copy of CBS2 is the latest version
> * as compared to a repository copy.  If the local copy is not current, it is
> * replaced with a copy of the repository version.  Either way, assuming no
> * errors, CBS2 is then started.  The version checking is by file datestamp.
> *
> *  This program should be compiled to an executable.  Use:
> *   build project cbs2load from cbs2load
> *
> *   build exe cbs2load from cbs2load recompile
> * Copy the executable to s:\cbs2\env.
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RE: order/group

[Dan Covill]

Sytze,
Tracy's recommendation says, simply, index on Invoice number + Date.  Thus, 
each Invoice is in order and within it the lines are ordered by date, which is 
what you said you wanted.
But Stephen Russel has a good point.  Apparently your data has line numbers for 
the invoices, so why worry about the date?  Simply index on Invoice number + 
Line number.
Dan Covill

> > On September 17, 2014 9:40:47 PM EDT, Sytze de Boer 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >1  I need to have all the entries for the client ordered by invoice
> > >number
> > >2  but also in date order
> > >
> > >(Date are set british)
> > >Example
> > >Date   Invnum   QtyAmount Desc
> > >21/7/2014  10001   1000.001st line on invoice
> > >21/7/2014  1000145.002nd line on the
> > >invoice
> > >(There may be 20 lines)
> > >
> > >14/7/2014  10011 5000   Invoice line 1
> > >14/7/2014  10012 34   Line 2

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Tracy Pearson 
> wrote:
>>> > The quick answer is to index on padl(invoice)+dtos(date)
> > --
> > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> >
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RE: if endif issue

[Dan Covill]

Gene,
I should just let this drop, but you make too easy a target!
> Languages that make it too easy to make errors are not correct 
> in my eyes.

A syntactic error is mathematically provable, and thus a fact.  Whether it was 
easy is an opinion.
> I believe I was using it with 6. I have been using that 
> pattern for a long time.
No, you weren't.  From the VFP9 Help:



In earlier versions of Visual FoxPro, you cannot place && and a comment after 
the semicolon that is used to continue a command line to an additional line.





You really SHOULD read the specs before yelling BUG!  (Not that it isn't a 
common failing.  In 50+ years of programming, probably 2/3 of the 'bugs' I've 
found have been errors on my part.)
Dan   

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