Re: Windows 10 X to support Win32 apps
On 11/25/2019 9:35 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, at 6:41 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: I thought we were pretty much told there would be no new operating systems past Windows 10, so if your VFP app ran on Windows 10 now, then it was going to run forever. Windows 10X is not Windows 10 like on your laptop. It is a stripped down version intended for the Surface and other similar devices. So it's good news in the sense that full-fat Windows 10 will of course continue to run 32-bit native Windows executables like Visual Foxpro, because why wouldn't it, but the bonus from this is that 10x devices probably will as well. So VFP apps will run on Microsoft Surface as well with Windows 10X? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/5de6bffc-45d3-89af-3d17-6546ab97e...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 X to support Win32 apps
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, at 6:41 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > I thought we were pretty much told there would be no new operating > systems past Windows 10, so if your VFP app ran on Windows 10 now, then > it was going to run forever. Windows 10X is not Windows 10 like on your laptop. It is a stripped down version intended for the Surface and other similar devices. So it's good news in the sense that full-fat Windows 10 will of course continue to run 32-bit native Windows executables like Visual Foxpro, because why wouldn't it, but the bonus from this is that 10x devices probably will as well. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/e92055c8-6c2a-46e0-b873-b0077e2de...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 X to support Win32 apps
I thought we were pretty much told there would be no new operating systems past Windows 10, so if your VFP app ran on Windows 10 now, then it was going to run forever. On 11/22/2019 11:13 AM, Tracy Pearson wrote: This is good news. From what I gathered from the article the 32 bit apps will run in container. Not sure what that means yet. Time will tell. Tracy https://www.windowslatest.com/2019/11/21/windows-10-x-to-support-win32-apps- sandbox-other-features/ [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: https://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: https://leafe.com/archives This message: https://leafe.com/archives/byMID/bbd701e5-c8cc-96af-17ac-56921f36a...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps
Same OS just with various bits not enabled. And lots of very annoying bits enabled. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/32f280e8-ac36-4ec6-8035-e37f56cb6...@www.fastmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps
Home should work no problem... Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿ Flexipol® Packaging Ltd T 01706 222 792 E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/ Follow us: Unit 14 Bentwood Road, Carrs Industrial Estate, Haslingden, Lancashire, BB4 5HH This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate virus protection. - Terms & Conditions: Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: 01 March 2019 21:55 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps VFP9SP2 apps work fine on Windows 10 HOME, right? I know they work fine on Win10 Professional but am double-checking the HOME version. tia, --Mike [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cwlp265mb08526513603056ffcc53c264fb...@cwlp265mb0852.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps
Thanks Tracey and John! On 2019-03-01 17:06, Tracy Pearson wrote: Yes. VFP 9 installs on HOME, and I have several customers that I've seen using HOME with our product. Tracy -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 4:55 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps VFP9SP2 apps work fine on Windows 10 HOME, right? I know they work fine on Win10 Professional but am double-checking the HOME version. tia, --Mike [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/7bf1f2b96ad68af9bcf6789739e4b...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps
I use VFP9 on Home. John John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 VFP9SP2 apps work fine on Windows 10 HOME, right? I know they work fine on Win10 Professional but am double-checking the HOME version. tia, --Mike ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/01df01d4d07c$694c09a0$3be41ce0$@johnweller.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps
Yes. VFP 9 installs on HOME, and I have several customers that I've seen using HOME with our product. Tracy -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 4:55 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Windows 10 Home and VFP9SP2 apps VFP9SP2 apps work fine on Windows 10 HOME, right? I know they work fine on Win10 Professional but am double-checking the HOME version. tia, --Mike [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000601d4d07b$046f8800$0d4e9800$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
All connection problems disappeared once we updated both VM, VM Host and TS Client OS's to the latest release. Certainly no problems connecting to SQL (Server 2012 with SQL 2012). Dave Crozier Software Development Manager Flexipol Packaging Ltd. --- This communication and the information it contains is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or email. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate virus protection. Flexipol Packaging Ltd. Unit 14 Bentwood Road Carrs Industrial Estate Haslingden Rossendale Lancashire BB4 5HH Tel:01706-222792 Fax: 01706-224683 www.Flexipol.co.uk --- Terms & Conditions: Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original Message- From: ProFox On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: 29 May 2018 18:49 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba) Hi Gang, Does anyone know if MS released a changelog for this Windows release? I'm seeing odd network issues that are unrelated to my previous problems. e.g. can't connect to SQL server, access denied errors when creating a listening socket. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+L93==xrbnecq3eeqkfnuk0pkhrpnmh9lkz79ef5tk...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab2bedc1...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
So much fun, isn't it? The only problem we've seen (so far) is the can't connect remote desktop. Changing the server setting to uncheck the requirement for a secure connection at least lets that work. Connecting to SQL server has been noproblem. Fred On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Paul Hill wrote: > Hi Gang, > > Does anyone know if MS released a changelog for this Windows release? > I'm seeing odd network issues that are unrelated to my previous problems. > > e.g. can't connect to SQL server, access denied errors when creating a > listening socket. > > -- > Paul > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJCBksrX_WW+R-72=JgSY6pZA=os4gpkaztj7r4oms+vag6...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Hi Gang, Does anyone know if MS released a changelog for this Windows release? I'm seeing odd network issues that are unrelated to my previous problems. e.g. can't connect to SQL server, access denied errors when creating a listening socket. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+L93==xrbnecq3eeqkfnuk0pkhrpnmh9lkz79ef5tk...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Ceased to be an issue for us by 2010 IIRC -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Thu, 10 May 2018, at 2:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote: > I wonder when those problems were actually fixed, Alan. MS said multiple > times that the problem was fixed with this Windows update or that > Windows update. After being burned by file corruption multiple times, I > stopped believing MS when they said that issues with the newer versions > of SMB had addressed the problems with file-based databases like VFP, > Access, Paradfox. Plating Russian roulette with my client's databases > was just too risky. > > -- > > rk > > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:19 AM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared > drive (Samba) > > IMO despite some initial problems with CDX corruption and SMB2 there has > been no reason not to use it for over 10 years since those problems were > fixed. If nothing else it is orders of magnitude faster than SMB1. > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1525983509.2739808.1367921280.57a7e...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
I wonder when those problems were actually fixed, Alan. MS said multiple times that the problem was fixed with this Windows update or that Windows update. After being burned by file corruption multiple times, I stopped believing MS when they said that issues with the newer versions of SMB had addressed the problems with file-based databases like VFP, Access, Paradfox. Plating Russian roulette with my client's databases was just too risky. -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 7:19 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba) IMO despite some initial problems with CDX corruption and SMB2 there has been no reason not to use it for over 10 years since those problems were fixed. If nothing else it is orders of magnitude faster than SMB1. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/dm5pr10mb1244978d35ada9397a796479d2...@dm5pr10mb1244.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
IMO despite some initial problems with CDX corruption and SMB2 there has been no reason not to use it for over 10 years since those problems were fixed. If nothing else it is orders of magnitude faster than SMB1. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1525951151.2571844.1367319440.49910...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
It's not about running EXEs, it's about network connections: > Windows 10 update 1803 does not open *network connections* on executables > files on SMBv1 share. Explains why my ADS was blocked. People using Samba with SMB2 disable will have this problem too. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+KTwp19eg51UkXzrj1KR+nMryQsaCZTyS42O52nGO=w...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
This issue is caused because SMB2 is disabled! Thanks to Alan Bourke for pointing me in the right direction. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+KDUjZUi0tFw+ywLB8MAMJmWP65=fx08df81row0wg...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
On 10 May 2018 at 08:53, Alan Bourke wrote: > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50172067/sqlconnection-error-if-exe-is-executed-from-network-path > > Looking at the above it seems to indicate that you can no longer run EXEs > from shared locations when the protocol is SMB1. Having said that SMB1 was > superseded in 2007 and deprecated in 2014. Samba supports up to SMB3. Good catch! When SMB2 first arrived we had lots of problems so disabled it in some sites. This is what is causing my ADS Server problem I posted about. Thanks Alan!! p.s. found a nice powershell command: Get-SmbConnection Shows all your drive mappings and what SMB version they are using. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cadwx0+jxemztep_pacmfyjrgb5floes6gvtm-4r6+eqawb-...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Mike wrote: > > But I still love to hate Windows. > Everyone needs a hobby. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4srQGVrGbQ-N0AAr6ki+r3oWeZ=yjn8vso8oqad9aq...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
> But I still love to hate Windows. It's an annoying bugger sometimes. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1525944404.2541450.1367225872.7920d...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Alan, Confirmed. Many thanks! But I still love to hate Windows. Mike Alan Bourke wrote: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50172067/sqlconnection-error-if-exe-is-executed-from-network-path Looking at the above it seems to indicate that you can no longer run EXEs from shared locations when the protocol is SMB1. Having said that SMB1 was superseded in 2007 and deprecated in 2014. Samba supports up to SMB3. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/452ff198-75f0-f3b9-9fd6-2295333c5...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
I'm placing my bets on your deduction, Alan. Now to make sure my Samba servers are all up-to-date! Thank you! Mike Alan Bourke wrote: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50172067/sqlconnection-error-if-exe-is-executed-from-network-path Looking at the above it seems to indicate that you can no longer run EXEs from shared locations when the protocol is SMB1. Having said that SMB1 was superseded in 2007 and deprecated in 2014. Samba supports up to SMB3. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/82eb290e-d6d1-794d-db5c-4db4a3ab3...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50172067/sqlconnection-error-if-exe-is-executed-from-network-path Looking at the above it seems to indicate that you can no longer run EXEs from shared locations when the protocol is SMB1. Having said that SMB1 was superseded in 2007 and deprecated in 2014. Samba supports up to SMB3. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1525938827.2517727.1367147776.12e52...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Homegroup was removed in 1803, if you're not using a Windows domain due to your servers being Linux I don't know if that is relevant. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1525938545.2515393.1367146416.2112d...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
I don't know if you can find something here : https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletins.aspx El jue., 10 may. 2018 7:22, Mike escribió: > Fernando, > > Would love to. > > Where to start? > > Mike > > > Fernando D. Bozzo wrote: > > Hi Mike: > > > > If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction > > policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this > > update. > > > > > > El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike escribió: > > > >> Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into. > >> > >> But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at > >> SMBv1, or higher not being available. > >> > >> While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now > >> applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared > >> drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same > >> EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive. > >> > >> While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes > >> more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried > >> disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local > >> security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to > apply. > >> > >> The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to > >> move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008) > >> but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) > servers. > >> > >> Microsoft, love to hate them. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> Gianni Turri wrote: > >>> Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL > >> server. > >>> May be you can find something useful in the discussion. > >>> > >>> Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018 > >>> > >> > https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/ > >>> Gianni > >>> > >>> On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike wrote: > >>> > >>> Have already tried that. No change. > >>> > >>> To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE > >>> can't connect to my Maria DB server. > >>> > >>> BUT! > >>> Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run > >>> locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. > >>> I am NOT on a Domain! > >>> > >>> Still troubleshooting... > >>> > >>> Thanks Gianni! > >>> > >>> Mike C > >>> > >>> > >>> Gianni Turri wrote: > Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows > features". > > Gianni > > On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: > > Heads up... > > After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored > on > >> a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to > a > >> local drive and it works fine. > Have already disabled firewall, no effect. > Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local > >> folder, no help. > Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. > > Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. > > Mike Copeland > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGQ_JukEJvFgrPHRubiZ89Tfy0=s7gjzmqytcitbnqmei-h...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Fernando, Would love to. Where to start? Mike Fernando D. Bozzo wrote: Hi Mike: If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this update. El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike escribió: Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into. But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at SMBv1, or higher not being available. While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive. While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply. The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008) but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers. Microsoft, love to hate them. Mike Gianni Turri wrote: Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL server. May be you can find something useful in the discussion. Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018 https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/ Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike wrote: Have already tried that. No change. To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE can't connect to my Maria DB server. BUT! Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. I am NOT on a Domain! Still troubleshooting... Thanks Gianni! Mike C Gianni Turri wrote: Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: Heads up... After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local drive and it works fine. Have already disabled firewall, no effect. Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no help. Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. Mike Copeland [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/500035a3-9814-17f9-916f-b16ef94e5...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Hi Mike: If you suspect that the problem could be because of a new restriction policy, you may try to find the full description of what did include this update. El jue., 10 may. 2018 5:33, Mike escribió: > Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into. > > But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at > SMBv1, or higher not being available. > > While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now > applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared > drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same > EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive. > > While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes > more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried > disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local > security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply. > > The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to > move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008) > but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers. > > Microsoft, love to hate them. > > Mike > > Gianni Turri wrote: > > Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL > server. > > > > May be you can find something useful in the discussion. > > > > Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018 > > > https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/ > > > > Gianni > > > > On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike wrote: > > > > Have already tried that. No change. > > > > To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE > > can't connect to my Maria DB server. > > > > BUT! > > Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run > > locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. > > I am NOT on a Domain! > > > > Still troubleshooting... > > > > Thanks Gianni! > > > > Mike C > > > > > > Gianni Turri wrote: > >> Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". > >> > >> Gianni > >> > >> On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: > >> > >> Heads up... > >> > >> After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on > a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a > local drive and it works fine. > >> > >> Have already disabled firewall, no effect. > >> Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local > folder, no help. > >> Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. > >> > >> Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. > >> > >> Mike Copeland > >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGQ_Ju=dawluvcswtxv8+qczsdaw6sdckbcjm94jwwzz40k...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Thanks, Gianni. That's a dead-on exact match for what I've run into. But, the TechNet article you referenced seems to point the finger at SMBv1, or higher not being available. While this might be the case, it's obvious that Windows 10 1803 is now applying additional restrictions when the EXE is launched from a shared drive instead of local. My EXE connects to MariaDB perfectly if the same EXE connects to the same server, when started from the local drive. While this might be something in the network stack, low-level, it makes more sense (to me) that it would be a difference in the firewall (tried disabling it) or security policy settings. I've looked through the local security policy options (I'm NOT on a domain!) and nothing seems to apply. The 'answer' in the Technet Forum discussion you sent seems to be to move the EXE file to a different server (Win Serv 2012 instead of 2008) but I don't have Windows Server anything...I'm 100% Linux (Samba) servers. Microsoft, love to hate them. Mike Gianni Turri wrote: Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL server. May be you can find something useful in the discussion. Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018 https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/ Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike wrote: Have already tried that. No change. To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE can't connect to my Maria DB server. BUT! Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. I am NOT on a Domain! Still troubleshooting... Thanks Gianni! Mike C Gianni Turri wrote: Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: Heads up... After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local drive and it works fine. Have already disabled firewall, no effect. Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no help. Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. Mike Copeland [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/e45986a7-75b4-ce39-8dc6-8a2dd6878...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Someone on the Italian TechNet Forum had a similar problem but with SQL server. May be you can find something useful in the discussion. Problemi connessione SQL dopo l'aggiornamento di Aprile 2018 https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/it-IT/38a6727a-7dce-48ef-8c3e-a69e7847c9b8/ Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 17:35:52 -0500, Mike wrote: Have already tried that. No change. To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE can't connect to my Maria DB server. BUT! Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. I am NOT on a Domain! Still troubleshooting... Thanks Gianni! Mike C Gianni Turri wrote: > Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". > > Gianni > > On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: > > Heads up... > > After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a > network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local > drive and it works fine. > > Have already disabled firewall, no effect. > Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no > help. > Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. > > Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. > > Mike Copeland > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5gv6fdhrvcsh6i9ihjlna5t05n43lpb...@4ax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Have already tried that. No change. To be more precise...it's not that the EXE won't run, it's that the EXE can't connect to my Maria DB server. BUT! Since the same application CAN connect to Maria DB if the EXE is run locally, this appears to be a security policy issue. I am NOT on a Domain! Still troubleshooting... Thanks Gianni! Mike C Gianni Turri wrote: Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: Heads up... After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local drive and it works fine. Have already disabled firewall, no effect. Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no help. Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. Mike Copeland [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0f1c40ea-d6ee-fa9e-e81f-478faa5b8...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & Running EXE from Shared drive (Samba)
Try enabling "SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support" in "Windows features". Gianni On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:23:49 -0500, Mike wrote: Heads up... After updating to Win 10 Pro 17134 (last night) apps that are stored on a network share (Samba server) will no longer run. Move the EXE file to a local drive and it works fine. Have already disabled firewall, no effect. Have moved all resource (DLL and FLL, OCX, APP) files to a local folder, no help. Move EXE file to a local folder, runs fine. Same application has run for years as a share, even over a VPN link. Mike Copeland ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/gct6fdd2vg9q9kupbpojgno2q5vd8sm...@4ax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
"hold off the regular monthly updates for up to 30 days", god! I had forgotten what Wd$ was all about. Thanks for the reminder. On 09/05/18 17:03, Ted Roche wrote: One of my clients had to recreate all their RDP settings. Whether that was related to this change, or just because the target machine changed its DNS name and that didn't show until the monthly reboot, well, we may never know. The post I made earlier about blocking the "April Update" also had some suggestions on settings you could use to hold off the regular monthly updates for up to 30 days, to let someone else beta-test them :) I set that up here on the couple of machines running Pro versions of Windows. Not that I paid for them ;) On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: Thanks Paul. Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it, since it's a remote site. Fred On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill wrote: On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor wrote: We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It kept saying something about security corruption. The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in system settings and firewall is OK. There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings -> Remote Desktop. Thanks Microsoft. I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out. -- Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/27a142b6-c855-bb7b-9fc7-915889026...@gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
One of my clients had to recreate all their RDP settings. Whether that was related to this change, or just because the target machine changed its DNS name and that didn't show until the monthly reboot, well, we may never know. The post I made earlier about blocking the "April Update" also had some suggestions on settings you could use to hold off the regular monthly updates for up to 30 days, to let someone else beta-test them :) I set that up here on the couple of machines running Pro versions of Windows. Not that I paid for them ;) On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > Thanks Paul. Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it, > since it's a remote site. > > > Fred > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > >> On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor wrote: >> > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use >> > remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It >> > kept saying something about security corruption. >> >> The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in >> system settings and firewall is OK. >> There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings >> -> Remote Desktop. >> >> Thanks Microsoft. I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out. >> >> -- >> Paul >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4s9-=nnci7amjnmfmstl312_rqgdnx7kesb0evovyc...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
Thanks Paul. Now maybe I'll have to talk someone through how to change it, since it's a remote site. Fred On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor wrote: > > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use > > remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It > > kept saying something about security corruption. > > The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in > system settings and firewall is OK. > There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings > -> Remote Desktop. > > Thanks Microsoft. I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out. > > -- > Paul > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJCBksq+vEZ=nPB7CGyB1LJWk4=j+my56ty26gcf0kgwbjc...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
We also had some fall-out from the Windows updates just released. This link seems to describe the root cause: https://itluke.online/2018/03/29/solved-authentication-error-function-not-supported/ -- rk -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 3:13 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor wrote: > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use > remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It > kept saying something about security corruption. The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in system settings and firewall is OK. There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings -> Remote Desktop. Thanks Microsoft. I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/dm5pr10mb1244c0004fb3a2923b47fb48d2...@dm5pr10mb1244.namprd10.prod.outlook.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
On 9 May 2018 at 20:00, Fred Taylor wrote: > We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use > remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It > kept saying something about security corruption. The old 'Allow remote connections to this computer' is enabled in system settings and firewall is OK. There is now a new setting 'Enable Remote Desktop On/Off' in Settings -> Remote Desktop. Thanks Microsoft. I installed this update remotely and now I'm locked out. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cadwx0++ccxpfqlm9mhynf0s5mwwim3zw8ndav5wmxcj0srr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 April 2018 Update & ADS Server
We don't use Advantage, but we had a problem with a machine trying to use remote desktop after the latest update for W10. Had to uninstall it. It kept saying something about security corruption. . Fred On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Paul Hill wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Just a heads up. I currently have 5 legacy sites running Advantage > Database Server down after installing the latest Windows 10 update. > > Tried the usual tricks (firewall, anti-virus etc) but no joy. > > Not sure if there are any Fox folks using this, but it's commonly used > with xBase++. > > -- > Paul > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJCBkspLqFqD3=dnjzu2m8qpy76687nfszg3h6ar5mgtbk5...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Home edition (was Re: Listbox auto-magically filters unwanted characters)
If you are only using US English in language settings, nothing would go bad. :) But I noticed that some differences regarding Chinese Hong Kong Language Pack between Home and Professional. It seemed that Win 10 Home didn't install Hong Kong's Supplementary Character Set. I didn't noticed the same problem with my old Win 10 Professional install. Maybe I did something wrong, needed a few more Win 10 clean installs to verify. I needed to test more carefully. On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote: > ah that "I thought I heard" How rumors are given birth. > > Nope, there's absolutely no difference between Windows Home and Windows Pro > in regard of VFP9 > > > > > > I thought I heard that Home edition didn't work as well with VFP apps. > > Is that true? -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Fedora 25 Server Spin /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGv=mjbzud3g+tezaat5jbykv4wdr3a5n14co7vty98kacr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
That's why it's Russian Roulette. In Russia, mess clean up YOU! (Apologies to Yakov Smirnov) Ken Dibble www.stic-cil.org Nice one! Of course, in original version - you can't clean up your own mess!! Somebody else has to do it for you. Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:58 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > So - it's the Windows version of Russian Roulette! :-) Well, except you don't get any vodka... ... and you have to clean up the mess after you lose ;^) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/30.39.28500.D8F93A75@cdptpa-oedge03 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
Nice one! Of course, in original version - you can't clean up your own mess!! Somebody else has to do it for you. Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:58 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > So - it's the Windows version of Russian Roulette! :-) Well, except you don't get any vodka... ... and you have to clean up the mess after you lose ;^) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/80838f1ca795b14ea1af48659f35166f2cd...@drexch02.corp.globetax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
On 8/4/2016 2:57 PM, Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: So - it's the Windows version of Russian Roulette! :-) Well, except you don't get any vodka... ... and you have to clean up the mess after you lose ;^) Oh, that is just cold. :-) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9caa546f-f7b5-993a-d0ea-332e92d69...@taconic.net ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > So - it's the Windows version of Russian Roulette! :-) Well, except you don't get any vodka... ... and you have to clean up the mess after you lose ;^) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4v+tf4kdnqlm93nyu3chveuozyd3yorwtn955st6h4...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
So - it's the Windows version of Russian Roulette! :-) Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1:52 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > On 4 August 2016 at 17:12, Ken Dibble wrote: >> >> Even more reasons why we all should bend over and let Microsoft force >> "updates" on us, and why software professionals should advise people >> that this is a fine idea. > > No problems here. System Restore is still enabled too. > Well, sure. That's the fun of playing "Windows Update" -- no two games ever come out the same! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/80838f1ca795b14ea1af48659f35166f2cd...@drexch02.corp.globetax.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > On 4 August 2016 at 17:12, Ken Dibble wrote: >> >> Even more reasons why we all should bend over and let Microsoft force >> "updates" on us, and why software professionals should advise people that >> this is a fine idea. > > No problems here. System Restore is still enabled too. > Well, sure. That's the fun of playing "Windows Update" -- no two games ever come out the same! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4tyssy5bbybpl1fo93_cvtjfdjvqzb_1+y59o8zqcr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
On 4 August 2016 at 17:12, Ken Dibble wrote: > Woody Leonhard, I guy I trust: > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104389/microsoft-windows/the-case-against-windows-10-anniversary-update-grows.html > > Even more reasons why we all should bend over and let Microsoft force > "updates" on us, and why software professionals should advise people that > this is a fine idea. No problems here. System Restore is still enabled too. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+Kmy6TNV=cmfbshcudu8ksd7n+klqt1qeuewzxhwby...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update Massively Broken
This really sounds like a re-run of the horrors they had with rolling out version 3.11 of Windows for Workgroups. And every single version since then. Bill's gone, Steve's gone, and yet... On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: > Woody Leonhard, I guy I trust: > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104389/microsoft-windows/the-case-against-windows-10-anniversary-update-grows.html > > Even more reasons why we all should bend over and let Microsoft force > "updates" on us, and why software professionals should advise people that > this is a fine idea. > > Windows Automatic Updates: Just Say No. (TM) > > Ken Dibble > www.stic-cil.org > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4ts2xystbtkhh47nxhukw9gpbkgcbwuemj1r53sy-z...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Update Thank you all for your comments/opinions or otherwise. My client has reversed the Win10 update and all is well again. i.e. same pc, same office, no change to my application. It simply fails to "append general", as in it skips this line in my code. So now I have time to apply a work-around. On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:05 AM, < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > On 2016-07-27 04:59, Alan Bourke wrote: > >> I just tested this under Windows 10, VFP9 SP2 and a small table with a >> general field linked to Word 2016 .docx files. It seems to indeed work >> fine once I set the properties of the report field to 'Scale Picture - >> Retain Shape'. >> >> So again I would strongly suspect path resolution issues. >> > > > Ever since folks long ago suggested to NOT embed files into General fields > (but rather store the LINK to the file instead), I avoided using General > fields. > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cag1nny81tm+0lnxyhr5etb0-hftw08njebqxz3iyxpkgfbt...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
On 2016-07-27 04:59, Alan Bourke wrote: I just tested this under Windows 10, VFP9 SP2 and a small table with a general field linked to Word 2016 .docx files. It seems to indeed work fine once I set the properties of the report field to 'Scale Picture - Retain Shape'. So again I would strongly suspect path resolution issues. Ever since folks long ago suggested to NOT embed files into General fields (but rather store the LINK to the file instead), I avoided using General fields. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/d9e0fd264537d5bb74ef4d8379609...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
In my case, I started with an invoice already in a PDF, as that's how I send them to clients. I'm a big fan of PDF for this purpose: they're not (easily) modified, the print pretty at the client's site regardless of their printers, and they make a professional appearance. Word, not so much. Here's what I did to get an invoice to display on a report: CREATE TABLE example FREE (examplepk i autoinc, invoice g) APPEND BLANK APPEND GENERAL invoice from sampleinvoice.pdf LINK CREATE REPORT example FROM example.dbf REPORT FORM example preview MODIFY REPORT example * Add in the general field and mess around with layout settings, settling on "Clip Contents" * The report shows up with a big blue 'e' -- a classic error message! This is the icon for Windows Edge, * in this case, the default PDF handler for Win10. * Visit the Adobe site, download the Adobe Reader DC and follow the prompts to make it the default handler. * REPEAT the Append General step (since the first general field is linked to Edge) and Preview the Report. * Voila! WYSIWYG Invoice on a report form in six lines of code. On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > Okay, Sytze, Alan says it works fine. > > Is it possible that you are trying to run 64-bit Office from within > (always 32-bit) Visual FoxPro? That might cause a problem. > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: >> I just tested this under Windows 10, VFP9 SP2 and a small table with a >> general field linked to Word 2016 .docx files. It seems to indeed work >> fine once I set the properties of the report field to 'Scale Picture - >> Retain Shape'. >> >> So again I would strongly suspect path resolution issues. >> >> -- >> Alan Bourke >> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4s04_ktjph9quc_aduffxwfmztsbs86t_oph25xcio...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Okay, Sytze, Alan says it works fine. Is it possible that you are trying to run 64-bit Office from within (always 32-bit) Visual FoxPro? That might cause a problem. On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:59 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > I just tested this under Windows 10, VFP9 SP2 and a small table with a > general field linked to Word 2016 .docx files. It seems to indeed work > fine once I set the properties of the report field to 'Scale Picture - > Retain Shape'. > > So again I would strongly suspect path resolution issues. > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4sGuxv=+2nerjmuf59xbkawwpkmyerv0i0wqtox7oy...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
That's how most do it! Storing those files outside of VFP DBF files actually improve security and ease of management. You can make use of the file sytsem's features to manage them. In the case of extreme security breaches, you could just relocate if not delete the file, instead of having to dig into a GENERAL data type. Remember: it takes time to search then bang.mp3 a record in DBF! On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Paul Newton wrote: > Yes, if you have the full path to the document file name you can use > shellexecute to print it ... > but you _might_ have to contend with a print dialog popping up -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 (Linux kernel 2.6.39.3) /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGv=mjaqhh8bsxaeov6dlvtpe5k3wpfmfghpq2jakpphttb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
I just tested this under Windows 10, VFP9 SP2 and a small table with a general field linked to Word 2016 .docx files. It seems to indeed work fine once I set the properties of the report field to 'Scale Picture - Retain Shape'. So again I would strongly suspect path resolution issues. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1469609964.1646771.678032361.1b549...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016, at 10:11 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: > Yes, I'm trying to print the Doc file embedded in a report. Like you can > with a picture. I'm amazed that *ever* worked without getting involved in ReportListeners. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1469607838.1640061.678006505.6c002...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 and Append General
Yes, if you have the full path to the document file name you can use shellexecute to print it ... but you _might_ have to contend with a print dialog popping up -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: 26 July 2016 22:12 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 and Append General Yes, I'm trying to print the Doc file embedded in a report. Like you can with a picture. On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Sytze de Boer > wrote: > > > > My remaining issue though, is there some way I can print a report > > with > the > > DOC file details.? (In much the same way as printing a report with a > > JPG file, or otherwise) > > > > I'm sorry for being dense, but what do you mean by that? > > Are DOC file details the author's name and number of characters, e.g., > the properties, or > > Are you trying to print the DOC file, perhaps as an image embedded in > a FoxPro FRX report? > > > -- > Ted Roche > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC > http://www.tedroche.com > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9a8106afb0ef9b44b69045c4448935a2014124b...@nlbawexmbx1.infor.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: > > My remaining issue though, is there some way I can print a report with the > DOC file details.? (In much the same way as printing a report with a JPG > file, or otherwise) > I'm sorry for being dense, but what do you mean by that? Are DOC file details the author's name and number of characters, e.g., the properties, or Are you trying to print the DOC file, perhaps as an image embedded in a FoxPro FRX report? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4uyh+bedokgsq6pzsbazkskk9zt5h36gxasgqowzzo...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Yes, I'm trying to print the Doc file embedded in a report. Like you can with a picture. On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Sytze de Boer > wrote: > > > > My remaining issue though, is there some way I can print a report with > the > > DOC file details.? (In much the same way as printing a report with a JPG > > file, or otherwise) > > > > I'm sorry for being dense, but what do you mean by that? > > Are DOC file details the author's name and number of characters, e.g., > the properties, or > > Are you trying to print the DOC file, perhaps as an image embedded in > a FoxPro FRX report? > > > -- > Ted Roche > Ted Roche & Associates, LLC > http://www.tedroche.com > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cag1nny-gsinzhjvfurvhmjs_kmefa-2jpusrq2hvj2ml1+e...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Thank you all for your opinions/advice. I am happy to NOT store data in the General field, since the data is already saved in DOC format, which is unique to each invoice. ("INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" My remaining issue though, is there some way I can print a report with the DOC file details.? (In much the same way as printing a report with a JPG file, or otherwise) On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > [reordered to chronological] > > At 02:26 2016-07-26, Dave Crozier wrote: > > -Original Message- >> From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer >> Sent: 26 July 2016 04:46 >> To: profox >> Subject: Windows 10 and Append General >> >> So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked My >> client prepares an invoice using Word The file is >> "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" >> E.g. INV12345.DOC >> > > Not a solution to your problem, but you might try > transform(invnum) > instead of the alltrim(str()). > > > No, No, No ... General fields are the work of the devil bloated memo >> files, VFP table size restrictions, links that get mysteriously corrupted, >> slow as hell etc. >> > > One advantage of general fields is that the short form of the keyword > is my first name. > > Sincerely, > > Gene Wirchenko > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cag1nny8xaysyzqcpxygh89pcrwv3m6gvcp2a1dchg1bww6d...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 and Append General
[reordered to chronological] At 02:26 2016-07-26, Dave Crozier wrote: -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: 26 July 2016 04:46 To: profox Subject: Windows 10 and Append General So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked My client prepares an invoice using Word The file is "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" E.g. INV12345.DOC Not a solution to your problem, but you might try transform(invnum) instead of the alltrim(str()). No, No, No ... General fields are the work of the devil bloated memo files, VFP table size restrictions, links that get mysteriously corrupted, slow as hell etc. One advantage of general fields is that the short form of the keyword is my first name. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1bbb3a8a16ed6f36aeca39b9df31e3a6@mtlp86 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Koen Piller wrote: > And Ted yes I am with you when changing functional good running code. > However Sytze has a problem with exactly that. So in this case it is my > opinion to change completely and dont store anything in a General Field but > change the code I am sure he will solve his problem that way. > Koen We are in agreement more than not. My solution might fix his problem today; your solution, forever. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4suxxe+xxgcdzinjb0bmsppvb-_tt5re11adbf4y87...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Alan I mistread sure my advise was for Sytze. And Ted yes I am with you when changing functional good running code. However Sytze has a problem with exactly that. So in this case it is my opinion to change completely and dont store anything in a General Field but change the code I am sure he will solve his problem that way. Koen Op dinsdag 26 juli 2016 heeft Alan Bourke het volgende geschreven: > > Alan, > > > > Donot store anything in GeneralFields, and if you must than donot. > > I don't. The original questioner did. > > > Just store the fullpath in of the .doc .xls or whatever file in your memo > > field. > > I generally store a relative path beneath a defined root location and > retrieve files when needed as root location + relative path. > > Storing a full UNC path or (shudder) path with a drive letter is a bad > idea because you'll have to re-path everything when the server changes > or the data\external files are otherwise moved, or file shares change. > If you do it the way described above you only have to change the root > location definition in one place. > > > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacuu1su5xpq6lmflt2hbqagtxw_wmw1xbcrsp9ketyep6v2...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
> Alan, > > Donot store anything in GeneralFields, and if you must than donot. I don't. The original questioner did. > Just store the fullpath in of the .doc .xls or whatever file in your memo > field. I generally store a relative path beneath a defined root location and retrieve files when needed as root location + relative path. Storing a full UNC path or (shudder) path with a drive letter is a bad idea because you'll have to re-path everything when the server changes or the data\external files are otherwise moved, or file shares change. If you do it the way described above you only have to change the root location definition in one place. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1469540819.1424102.677168713.53f3b...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Well, I think the effect that Sytze was depending on was the feature of General fields that store a bitmap image of the linked OLE object in the field, suitable, in some cases, for printing. That's how the FRX report worked. It's a dangerous thing to depend on, since different OLE servers store different kinds of bitmaps -- some just put the application's icon in the General field, others store a hi-res image that takes up huge amounts of space. There are definitely different ways of getting the effect Sytze's after, but I'm a big fan of minimizing changes in production code in the field, and most of the solutions would entail a new way of generating, storing and producing reports, which is likely too costly if a quick workaround is available. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Koen Piller wrote: > Alan, > > Donot store anything in GeneralFields, and if you must than donot. > Just store the fullpath in of the .doc .xls or whatever file in your memo > field. > Advise you to change your code and I can garantee you will be a happy > foxpro user again. > Regards, > Koen > > 2016-07-26 9:46 GMT+02:00 Alan Bourke : > >> > It seems this no longer works with Win10 >> >> I don't know why it wouldn't work with Windows 10 other than you are >> linking it and it can't resolve the path in the link. >> >> If you do MODIFY GENERAL does it bring up the .DOC? >> >> Frankly I'm surprised it worked on a report layout in *any* OS. The help >> states: >> >> "If the General field in the table contains data other than an image >> file, such as a Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word document, an icon >> representing that data appears on the report or label when you generate >> output for it. " >> >> Are you saying it would actually print the contents of the .DOC >> previously ? >> >> I assume the PC has 32-bit MS Word installed ? >> >> >> -- >> Alan Bourke >> alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm >> >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4un0guh4zne_0tbxvhq3f34w82smogdcbpxcvmqmsx...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Alan, Donot store anything in GeneralFields, and if you must than donot. Just store the fullpath in of the .doc .xls or whatever file in your memo field. Advise you to change your code and I can garantee you will be a happy foxpro user again. Regards, Koen 2016-07-26 9:46 GMT+02:00 Alan Bourke : > > It seems this no longer works with Win10 > > I don't know why it wouldn't work with Windows 10 other than you are > linking it and it can't resolve the path in the link. > > If you do MODIFY GENERAL does it bring up the .DOC? > > Frankly I'm surprised it worked on a report layout in *any* OS. The help > states: > > "If the General field in the table contains data other than an image > file, such as a Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word document, an icon > representing that data appears on the report or label when you generate > output for it. " > > Are you saying it would actually print the contents of the .DOC > previously ? > > I assume the PC has 32-bit MS Word installed ? > > > -- > Alan Bourke > alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacuu1su9uvuuwpgvwpgd819ztghnnz_k07rzsdnfcgwnbd2...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Sytze: As you're coming to learn, depending on Microsoft to maintain their APIs and compatibility from version to version is a gamble. Unless there's some reason the client wants to edit their invoices after sending, rather than saving in Word, have them save a PDF file. Test out your code to see if you can work with that. That's likely the quickest and simplest solution: get out of Office formats! Second point, don't use '&' unless you absolutely have to: the '&' is shorthand for "recompile this entire line using the values at runtime" and invokes the entire parser and compiler. It is slower, and it also chokes if there are spaces or some special characters in the file name. Most of the time, you can use the parentheses () when just substituting a filename into a command. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/4kxhy0aa(v=vs.80).aspx http://www.tomorrowssolutionsllc.com/Articles/Handling%20Code%20that%20Changes%20at%20Runtime.pdf On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Sytze de Boer wrote: > So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked > My client prepares an invoice using Word > The file is "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" > E.g. INV12345.DOC > > The system says > append general rtfgen from &newfile LINK > > It is then easy to print this on the report > > It seems this no longer works with Win10 > > My thoughts at this time are to no longer store the data in a General > field, and to print the DOC file as part of the report. > BUT, I can't figure how to do that. > I can print pictures, BMP's, Gif's etc, but not a Doc file > > Can anyone throw some light on this, or offer some suggestions? > > -- > Kind regards, > Sytze de Boer > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4tczwkd1u3avkj5822_lvm0wjhft2mdwsafbhz76sb...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 and Append General
Alan, That is what I meant to say!!!. The majority of apps I have ever written tend to use a single database anyhow and I must admit I prefer SQLExpress to MySQL (MariaDB) and/or its derivatives because of its ease of installation and seamless integration into other Microsoft languages/products. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 26 July 2016 11:17 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 and Append General Dave Crozier wrote: > Even SQLExpress can now hold over 100Gb of data Currently it is 10GB per database, you can have as many databases as disk space allows. [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab290220...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Dave Crozier wrote: > Even SQLExpress can now hold over 100Gb of data Currently it is 10GB per database, you can have as many databases as disk space allows. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1469528249.440079.676996049.7e704...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 and Append General
No, No, No ... General fields are the work of the devil bloated memo files, VFP table size restrictions, links that get mysteriously corrupted, slow as hell etc. Better to store your binary data outside VFP in a SQL server of some type which is made for the job and/or just store links to the Binary data (Pictures, Spreadsheets etc.) Years of seeing people try general fields and eventually giving up but generating themselves loads of grief in the process has lead me to these conclusions. Even SQLExpress can now hold over 100Gb of data (May be more now) and it is free, reliable and simple to use as a road to running full SQL. We started our system this way and now host 17Tb of scanned data online. Try that with General fields!!! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: 26 July 2016 04:46 To: profox Subject: Windows 10 and Append General So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked My client prepares an invoice using Word The file is "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" E.g. INV12345.DOC The system says append general rtfgen from &newfile LINK It is then easy to print this on the report It seems this no longer works with Win10 My thoughts at this time are to no longer store the data in a General field, and to print the DOC file as part of the report. BUT, I can't figure how to do that. I can print pictures, BMP's, Gif's etc, but not a Doc file Can anyone throw some light on this, or offer some suggestions? -- Kind regards, Sytze de Boer --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/18725b8cd2d5d247873a2baf401d4ab290220...@ex2010-a-fpl.fpl.LOCAL ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 and Append General
Not saving in Program files are you? That's a no no now. Al -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 26 July 2016 09:47 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 and Append General > It seems this no longer works with Win10 I don't know why it wouldn't work with Windows 10 other than you are linking it and it can't resolve the path in the link. If you do MODIFY GENERAL does it bring up the .DOC? Frankly I'm surprised it worked on a report layout in *any* OS. The help states: "If the General field in the table contains data other than an image file, such as a Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word document, an icon representing that data appears on the report or label when you generate output for it. " Are you saying it would actually print the contents of the .DOC previously ? I assume the PC has 32-bit MS Word installed ? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/001a01d1e717$796d5f10$6c481d30$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
> It seems this no longer works with Win10 I don't know why it wouldn't work with Windows 10 other than you are linking it and it can't resolve the path in the link. If you do MODIFY GENERAL does it bring up the .DOC? Frankly I'm surprised it worked on a report layout in *any* OS. The help states: "If the General field in the table contains data other than an image file, such as a Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word document, an icon representing that data appears on the report or label when you generate output for it. " Are you saying it would actually print the contents of the .DOC previously ? I assume the PC has 32-bit MS Word installed ? -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1469519217.413397.676886281.29803...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
I don't use the GENERAL data type in VFP. I always think It's better to store binary data outside of DBF. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Sytze de Boer wrote: > So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked > My client prepares an invoice using Word > The file is "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" > E.g. INV12345.DOC > The system says > append general rtfgen from &newfile LINK .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 (Linux kernel 2.6.39.3) /( _ )\ http://sites.google.com/site/changmw ^ ^ May the Force and farces be with you! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAGv=MJCkH6WBXiaUG=zSQXJK+A2c8LzDv1B6d=efajt9cjx...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 and Append General
Here's (possibly) some helpful info. I have a client that I upgraded from Win7 to 10, and he uses Excel a LOT. There's a website that he goes to and they have a link he clicks that downloads a collection of data that is autoloaded from the browser into Excel. Well, after working for years with Win7, now with Win10 he clicks and the web page opens Excel, but there's no data. I haven't solved the problem yet, but I suspect that a registry link that connects data types (i.e., CSV) is no longer there or it's broken. So, I'm going to uninstall and reinstall Office on Win10 to see if that solves the linkage problem. My point being that your app was probably depending on some connection provided by the registry (provided by the installation of Word) that is now broken. Hope that helps somehow. Mike Sytze de Boer wrote: So I have used this approach for 20 years and it has always worked My client prepares an invoice using Word The file is "INV"+alltrim(str(invnum))+".DOC" E.g. INV12345.DOC The system says append general rtfgen from &newfile LINK It is then easy to print this on the report It seems this no longer works with Win10 My thoughts at this time are to no longer store the data in a General field, and to print the DOC file as part of the report. BUT, I can't figure how to do that. I can print pictures, BMP's, Gif's etc, but not a Doc file Can anyone throw some light on this, or offer some suggestions? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/4696970d-12be-1f6c-25d7-06cca492c...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10 tablet Mode keyboard
Using the CLSID {054AAE20-4BEA-4347-8A35-64A533254A9D}, the LocalServer32 key has a default value that will point to the TabTip.exe. Running that will launch the onscreen keyboard. I dug through a patch to some code to discover that. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8643501&action=diff HTH, Tracy -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:33 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Windows 10 tablet Mode keyboard Any of you guys know how to activate the on screen keyboard when using VFP on a windows 10 tablet? The option to auto display the keyboard when text entry is required in the control panel doesn't seem to work with VFP but does with any other program like notepad etc. I remember back in the days of XP tablet handwriting recognition days that you could force the keyboard to appear and this is what I want to do. If this is the case then I can build it into my base class text and edit boxes. Having to manually display the keyboard, then enter text then hide it is a real pain and isn't acceptable to the operators. Have googled it extensively but can't find an answer.. I wonder if it is one of those things that just will not work with VFP probably because the API set used in its design wasn't the standard Windows one. Dave [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000601d1ac6a$32793490$976b9db0$@powerchurch.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10
Thanks to Alan and Paul. I'd forgotten about the Disk Cleanup tool. John John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > There is a 'Windows.old' folder, which is your old installation should you > decide to roll back. Here's how to delete it: > http://blog.laptopmag.com/delete-windows-old-folder > > Obviously don't delete it until your are 100% sure. > > I think any '$windows' folder is the location to which the Windows 10 install > bits and pieces downloaded initially before you kicked off the upgrade. I > would guess that can be deleted as and when you want. > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/000301d0e637$8c98ac70$a5ca0550$@johnweller.co.uk ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
There is a 'Windows.old' folder, which is your old installation should you decide to roll back. Here's how to delete it: http://blog.laptopmag.com/delete-windows-old-folder Obviously don't delete it until your are 100% sure. I think any '$windows' folder is the location to which the Windows 10 install bits and pieces downloaded initially before you kicked off the upgrade. I would guess that can be deleted as and when you want. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1441274085.2023693.373637097.5f2b5...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Hi John, I think it's related to the upgrade process. If you are happy with Windows 10 and don't want to downgrade you can run the 'Disk Clean-Up' tool that is built into Windows. Paul On 3 September 2015 at 10:32, John Weller wrote: > I've just successfully upgrade to Windows 10. Is there any reason why I > shouldn't delete the hidden folders $Windows? Should I just delete them or > is there at tool to remove them? > > TIA > > John Weller > 01380 723235 > 07976 393631 > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+Ja3d+3WjXa=gxvqrhzg5fwclmqpyc0hm3ly6f1qxz...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 datetime formats - I need help
On 5 August 2015 at 22:19, Stephen Russell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I discovered this bug in C# but I suspect it will effect other >> languages. It looks like ADO is effected so could effect Fox. >> >> Windows 10 introduced changes to the following cultures: >> Finnish (Finland) >> Norwegian Bokmål (Norway) >> Norwegian Bokmål (Svalbard and Jan Mayen) >> Serbian (Cyrillic, Kosovo) >> Serbian (Latin, Montenegro) >> Serbian (Latin, Serbia) >> Serbian (Latin, Kosovo) >> >> The date separator for these cultures has changed to the same as the >> time separator. >> >> For example, in Windows 8 Norway used: 05.08.2015 20:53 >> In Windows 10 it uses 05.08.2015 20.53 > > Is this a .Net 4.6 issue? Have seen a few OBTW for 4.6 over the past few > weeks. I don't think so. I'm using 4.0. Although I believe if you target 4.0 it will actually use 4.6. I suspect if I made a custom locale for Windows 8 it would have the same problems. -- Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CADwx0+LHRSi0zGgQCtQxUvis=xozvdsapenr2a93t9ozqzr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10 datetime formats - I need help
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > Hi All, > > I discovered this bug in C# but I suspect it will effect other > languages. It looks like ADO is effected so could effect Fox. > > Windows 10 introduced changes to the following cultures: > Finnish (Finland) > Norwegian Bokmål (Norway) > Norwegian Bokmål (Svalbard and Jan Mayen) > Serbian (Cyrillic, Kosovo) > Serbian (Latin, Montenegro) > Serbian (Latin, Serbia) > Serbian (Latin, Kosovo) > > The date separator for these cultures has changed to the same as the > time separator. > > For example, in Windows 8 Norway used: 05.08.2015 20:53 > In Windows 10 it uses 05.08.2015 20.53 --- > Is this a .Net 4.6 issue? Have seen a few OBTW for 4.6 over the past few weeks. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Analyst Ring Container Technology Oakland TN 901.246-0159 cell --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CAJidMY+YAPLAU8yveX-ReQ0GsnY0BF_qNr8=d+dubccubf1...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On 10/21/2014 12:59 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 17, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Paul Hill wrote: Don't think it will be a problem. Windows 10 is basically Windows 8.2. Love this! http://talkinthe.net/Images/2014/10/21/001.jpg -- Ed Leafe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8IufkbuD0&list=RDtGvHNNOLnCk&index=3 ;^) -- Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. (623) 582-0323 SMS (602) 717-5476 Fax 623-869-0675 www.san-dc.com www.cremationtracker.com www.agentrelationshipmanager.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5446bee1.2000...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On 10/21/2014 11:27 AM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2014-10-20 16:44, Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk Yep...that's the one!!! What a freakin' (billionaire) idiot. I don't care who you are, that's hilarious! Is that a real commercial? -- Jeff Jeff Johnson j...@san-dc.com SanDC, Inc. (623) 582-0323 SMS (602) 717-5476 Fax 623-869-0675 www.san-dc.com www.cremationtracker.com www.agentrelationshipmanager.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5446bd66.7090...@san-dc.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Oct 17, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > Don't think it will be a problem. Windows 10 is basically Windows 8.2. Love this! http://talkinthe.net/Images/2014/10/21/001.jpg -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/99408e4c-7164-4edd-804e-68fb372a8...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On 2014-10-20 16:44, Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk Yep...that's the one!!! What a freakin' (billionaire) idiot. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/516056d58832a71be0a610adebde8...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
> 3.11 is an interesting version number. Networking got added to > Windows. Not exactly. There was Windows 3.1, and then Windows 3.11 which was what we would now think of as a service pack for Windows 3.1, i.e. not a standalone product. These had network support but only with third-party addons and a centralised server. Windows for Workgroups 3.1 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 were extended versions of the above that allowed native peer-to-peer networking without the need for a server. Then there's Windows 3.2 which was a Chinese version of Windows 3.1 ... -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1413885813.3534451.181458573.3f231...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10
It was in the days of DDE and you could change chart data on one machine and have the chart update on another. DDE was brilliant, yet now there is talk of windows machines talking like that. All old hat , been done. Al -Original Message- If I remember correctly it was called "Windows for workgroups" and it was my introduction to the game hearts where four of you could play over a network and try to dump the queen of spades on another player :-) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/002401cfed14$884d7460$98e85d20$@com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Gene Wirchenko wrote: 3.11 is an interesting version number. Networking got added to Windows. You might have thought that this was a big thing, but the version number was not bumped to 4 or even 3.2. If I remember correctly it was called "Windows for workgroups" and it was my introduction to the game hearts where four of you could play over a network and try to dump the queen of spades on another player :-) Never played that during work hours at all guv. No, never happened ;-) Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/544627fd.7090...@whisperingsmith.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Wow! He almost had hair back then! Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/54458366.2050...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to > "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" > lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/35f832fe-938a-4990-b89a-357d4fda5...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
At 07:02 2014-10-18, Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > This > is the company that made: > > Windows 3 > Windows 3.11 > Windows 95 > Windows NT > Windows NT 3.51 > WIndows 98 > Windows NT 4 > Windows Me > Windows 2000 > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) He also left out Windows 3.1. 3.11 is an interesting version number. Networking got added to Windows. You might have thought that this was a big thing, but the version number was not bumped to 4 or even 3.2. In other silly version numbers, there was Word for Windows 2.0. Microsoft forgot the parentheses. It meant (Word for Windows) 2.0 not Word for (Windows 2.0) Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/ ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:58 PM, < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to > "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are > INSANE!" lol > > - I remember having a Windows 286 that only ran off of floppies. You got if free for desktop publishing app. Precursor to Correl Draw I believe. Too bad that dot matrix printer did such a great job with the files. Actually there was printer shop that could take the images and make posters. > On 2014-10-18 13:48, Mike Copeland wrote: > >> I swear I had a copy of Win 1.0 >> I may have been smoking something (it was a different time then), and >> from what I recall it was pretty much click and look...no apps, no >> functionality. >> >> I even kept the diskettes for a while along with my Lotus 123 and Frogger >> disks. >> >> Mike >> >> Ted Roche wrote: >> >>> There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with >>> Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm >>> pretty >>> sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working >>> at a >>> Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS >>> machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm >>> misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: >>> >>> Wasn't there an NT 2.0? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device >>>> >>>> Original message >>>> From: Ed Leafe >>>> Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) >>>> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >>>> Subject: Re: Windows 10 >>>> >>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >>>> >>>> This >>>>> is the company that made: >>>>> >>>>> Windows 3 >>>>> Windows 3.11 >>>>> Windows 95 >>>>> Windows NT >>>>> Windows NT 3.51 >>>>> WIndows 98 >>>>> Windows NT 4 >>>>> Windows Me >>>>> Windows 2000 >>>>> Windows Vista >>>>> Windows 7 >>>>> Windows 8 >>>>> >>>> You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely >>>> into >>>> the above pattern? >>>> >>>> ;-) >>>> >>>> -- Ed Leafe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >>>> multipart/signed >>>>text/plain (text body -- kept) >>>>application/pgp-signature >>>> --- >>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajidmyjduxmgw-w2hd+zrzcy+wjvgeqf00p4qmzdr1qkstd...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Dunno, I don't think I even knew Steve Balmer existed until the early 90's. mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" lol On 2014-10-18 13:48, Mike Copeland wrote: I swear I had a copy of Win 1.0 I may have been smoking something (it was a different time then), and from what I recall it was pretty much click and look...no apps, no functionality. I even kept the diskettes for a while along with my Lotus 123 and Frogger disks. Mike Ted Roche wrote: There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: Wasn't there an NT 2.0? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ed Leafe Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: This is the company that made: Windows 3 Windows 3.11 Windows 95 Windows NT Windows NT 3.51 WIndows 98 Windows NT 4 Windows Me Windows 2000 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/54455072.8020...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Was Windows 1.0 the one where Steve Ballmer did a crazy commercial akin to "Crazy Eddie" back in the 80s? "Crazy Eddiehis prices are INSANE!" lol On 2014-10-18 13:48, Mike Copeland wrote: I swear I had a copy of Win 1.0 I may have been smoking something (it was a different time then), and from what I recall it was pretty much click and look...no apps, no functionality. I even kept the diskettes for a while along with my Lotus 123 and Frogger disks. Mike Ted Roche wrote: There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: Wasn't there an NT 2.0? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ed Leafe Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: This is the company that made: Windows 3 Windows 3.11 Windows 95 Windows NT Windows NT 3.51 WIndows 98 Windows NT 4 Windows Me Windows 2000 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/9a6a4a1eda7013af3cc4cf52f2478...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10
Excellent plausible explanations, Dan! I never would have guessed that #2 but I'm sure you're right. On 2014-10-17 19:51, Dan Covill wrote: There are two candidates for a reasonable explanation. 1. Windows 8 has acquired such a reputation that no enterprise willconsider using it or any variation. Win 9 is considered an upgrade to 8 so is also Taboo. Windows 10 creates a perceived distance. 2. Loads of applications developed in the NT/2000/XP era check to seewhether they're running on old 'Personal' windows (95 or 98) or on the'New Technology' versions. They do this by looking for a '9'. Maybe MS can solve the problem in their time-tested fashion, by renaming everything. Dan Covill From: j...@johnweller.co.uk To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: Windows 10 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:42:16 +0100 What happened to Windows 9? John Weller --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/296be58dc03e41ec67456a7684916...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014, at 10:20 PM, AndyHC wrote: > I had a copy of Windows 1.x given out free by ms at a meeting of the PC > Users Group in London sometime in the mid 80s. In sort of similar news, we very occasionally have a need to dredge up Foxpro for Windows 2.6 and the old 16-bit version of our software for a very few holdout customers, most of the time when they are finally upgrading. I have been using a 32-bit Windows 8 VM but for some reason it refuses to draw the display properly for Win16 applications. So last week I found myself installing and configuring Windows For Workgroups 3.11 under DosBOX, and then running the stuff under that. Never thought I'd be doing that again. Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/1413735128.3668432.180750873.0b174...@webmail.messagingengine.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
I had a copy of Windows 1.x given out free by ms at a meeting of the PC Users Group in London sometime in the mid 80s. On the PC's available at the time it was slower than watching paint dry, I couldn't get my management even vaguely interested - they had taken the giant step from mainframes to minicomputers and could see no further. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5442d995.1010...@hawthorncottage.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Windows 10
I have a pack of Windows 1.3 "operating environment", complete with diskettes, opened but never installed. Pepe Llopis -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Mike Copeland Enviado el: sábado, 18 de octubre de 2014 19:49 Para: profox@leafe.com Asunto: Re: Windows 10 I swear I had a copy of Win 1.0 I may have been smoking something (it was a different time then), and from what I recall it was pretty much click and look...no apps, no functionality. I even kept the diskettes for a while along with my Lotus 123 and Frogger disks. Mike Ted Roche wrote: > There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with > Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty > sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a > Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS > machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm > misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: > >> Wasn't there an NT 2.0? >> >> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device >> >> Original message >> From: Ed Leafe >> Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) >> To: profoxt...@leafe.com >> Subject: Re: Windows 10 >> >> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: >> >>> This >>> is the company that made: >>> >>> Windows 3 >>> Windows 3.11 >>> Windows 95 >>> Windows NT >>> Windows NT 3.51 >>> WIndows 98 >>> Windows NT 4 >>> Windows Me >>> Windows 2000 >>> Windows Vista >>> Windows 7 >>> Windows 8 >> You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into >> the above pattern? >> >> ;-) >> >> -- Ed Leafe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >> multipart/signed >>text/plain (text body -- kept) >>application/pgp-signature >> --- >> [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/653FE2BB6D83465B91658988CABFC25D@LENOVO1 ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
I swear I had a copy of Win 1.0 I may have been smoking something (it was a different time then), and from what I recall it was pretty much click and look...no apps, no functionality. I even kept the diskettes for a while along with my Lotus 123 and Frogger disks. Mike Ted Roche wrote: There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: Wasn't there an NT 2.0? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ed Leafe Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: This is the company that made: Windows 3 Windows 3.11 Windows 95 Windows NT Windows NT 3.51 WIndows 98 Windows NT 4 Windows Me Windows 2000 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/5442a7f8.9090...@ggisoft.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Fred Taylor wrote: > I can verify the Windows 2.0 runtime with PageMaker. Either that or I'm > mis-remembering the same as you, Ted > Thanks, Fred. We can always look it up and cite Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Windows but it's more fun blowing the dust off old neurons. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4v1Ma0HgPa0Kg+vmV7rr_V0ioDpff39TCDr67D=0kf...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
I can verify the Windows 2.0 runtime with PageMaker. Either that or I'm mis-remembering the same as you, Ted Fred On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with > Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty > sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a > Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS > machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm > misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: > > > Wasn't there an NT 2.0? > > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > > > Original message > > From: Ed Leafe > > Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > > Subject: Re: Windows 10 > > > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > > > > This > > > is the company that made: > > > > > > Windows 3 > > > Windows 3.11 > > > Windows 95 > > > Windows NT > > > Windows NT 3.51 > > > WIndows 98 > > > Windows NT 4 > > > Windows Me > > > Windows 2000 > > > Windows Vista > > > Windows 7 > > > Windows 8 > > > > You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely > into > > the above pattern? > > > > ;-) > > > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > > multipart/signed > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > application/pgp-signature > > --- > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cajcbksrs8rq78on-z4fnkqysbhm3_3wp1uxcvb2aog6-t-3...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
There was a Windows 2.0 -- I remember getting the "runtime" bundled with Adobe Pagemaker when my company started Desktop Publishing. But I'm pretty sure Windows New Technology launched at the 3.0 version. I was working at a Microsoft consultancy in Waltham, MA, and we bought PowerPC and MIPS machines to test out the cross-platform servers on new CPUs. Perhaps I'm misremembering, as that was a long, long, long time ago. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:22 PM, jeff wrote: > Wasn't there an NT 2.0? > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Ed Leafe > Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Windows 10 > > On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > > > This > > is the company that made: > > > > Windows 3 > > Windows 3.11 > > Windows 95 > > Windows NT > > Windows NT 3.51 > > WIndows 98 > > Windows NT 4 > > Windows Me > > Windows 2000 > > Windows Vista > > Windows 7 > > Windows 8 > > You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into > the above pattern? > > ;-) > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/signed > text/plain (text body -- kept) > application/pgp-signature > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/cacw6n4str8usrugayd0kva5dvd34auwk7lornbyweg6ab4c...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Wasn't there an NT 2.0? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ed Leafe Date:10/18/2014 07:02 (GMT-07:00) To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Windows 10 On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > This > is the company that made: > > Windows 3 > Windows 3.11 > Windows 95 > Windows NT > Windows NT 3.51 > WIndows 98 > Windows NT 4 > Windows Me > Windows 2000 > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0a456079-b0e7-4870-be8d-c28fa488a...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. Report [OT] Abuse: http://leafe.com/reportAbuse/0a456079-b0e7-4870-be8d-c28fa488a...@leafe.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/3mje3fncp65j6gxx1mr47uc6.1413649347...@email.android.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > This > is the company that made: > > Windows 3 > Windows 3.11 > Windows 95 > Windows NT > Windows NT 3.51 > WIndows 98 > Windows NT 4 > Windows Me > Windows 2000 > Windows Vista > Windows 7 > Windows 8 You left out Windows XP. How is that possible, when it fits so nicely into the above pattern? ;-) -- Ed Leafe --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed text/plain (text body -- kept) application/pgp-signature --- ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/0a456079-b0e7-4870-be8d-c28fa488a...@leafe.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: Windows 10
Love your theories, both reasonable. However, I think this is a case of marketing versions. I'll bet if we look under the hood, it's something obscene like Windows 5.5.9876 or so. This is the company that made: Windows 3 Windows 3.11 Windows 95 Windows NT Windows NT 3.51 WIndows 98 Windows NT 4 Windows Me Windows 2000 Windows Vista Windows 7 Windows 8 So, there's not a lot of allegiance to rational numbering. As one wit on Twitter suggested [1] "So, MS doesn't want Win10 to be WinX? If it wipes away the memories of greasy fingerprints of Win8, perhaps they could try WindX?" [1] https://twitter.com/tedroche/status/519845882322104321 On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > There are two candidates for a reasonable explanation. > 1. Windows 8 has acquired such a reputation that no enterprise > willconsider using it or any variation. Win 9 is considered an upgrade to > 8 so is also Taboo. Windows 10 creates a perceived distance. > 2. Loads of applications developed in the NT/2000/XP era check to > seewhether they're running on old 'Personal' windows (95 or 98) or on > the'New Technology' versions. They do this by looking for a '9'. > Maybe MS can solve the problem in their time-tested fashion, by renaming > everything. > Dan Covill > > > From: j...@johnweller.co.uk > > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > > Subject: RE: Windows 10 > > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:42:16 +0100 > > > > What happened to Windows 9? > > > > John Weller > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACW6n4sA6eaEph5g_vXTZgsWJBVQXS+8U2aLz=n8a5gzkpr...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.