Re: Anyone using an Imac
For the buffer size 64 or 32 is great for tracking, but feel free to krank that up as high as it would go for mixing and see how performance improoves. If things do, then you can start bringing it down little by little over time and find the cut off point. If i am not mistaken delay compensation only will really make a difference if the project starts to play out of sync wit itself. if this isn't happening then you probably aren running into delay compensation issues. On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I have mest with the playback and recording buffer, but typicly I try to leave them at 64, I am used to 64 and 32 on the buffer unless I am mixing. With the delay compensation I didn't even think of it, where do you find the setting and what is a good rule of thumb for a protools rig that only has 2GB ram? Thanks for all the tips on this stuff. - Original Message - From: Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using an Imac Speaking of which, have you adjusted the buffer size in pro tools and the automatic delay compensation buffers as well? On 2/14/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks a bunch. I have some homework to do now. As far as Sonar, I can have more plugs then the law should allow and with a little adjusting of the buffer for mixing, all is fine. This is only on a quad core with only 2 GB ram as well. I can run multiple waves plugs, Antari and Sonar Native plugs without a hick up and have 5 sessions open at once. - Original Message - From: Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using an Imac If I am not mistaken, the 2011 iMac's max out at 16GB of ram. Though the 21.5 may be 8GB or so. Yes things like auto tune are resource hogs and are best saved for mixing. Even then set it up how you want it, print it to another track and then archive the track which its an insert on which removes it from being used in the session. Should you need to make a change, unarchive it make your change, print to a new track and re archive it. Archive may be the word sonar used for this functionality, so not sure if its called the same in Pro Tools. Also if its in the budget, consider grabbing the expansion bay from somewhere with a decent return policy and return it if it not accessible. Just a thought. On 2/14/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, and your right, it is 21.5 and it is 2011. I think it maxes at 4 or 6 GB ram if I remember correctly. I do not have the UA card/shuttle, I was looking into it, but I couldn't find out how accessible it was with VO. I think that I just need to max out the ram and see what that does for me. My Mac is like a woman, I got to treat her just right, massage her a little and give her rest when she gets too tired, got to love it. I am finding out that Antari stuff can be a CPU hog from what I can tell and I am just avoiding it in real time recording for now. Thanks for your thoughts - Original Message - From: Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using an Imac I am assuming you have a 21.5 iMac and not an 11.5. The problem here is ram 2GB isn't enough really. All modern iMacs have a ram hatch on the back you can get to by removing two screws on the back. I'd suggest figureing out which model you have (can be found in about this mac) and using a site like OWC or Crucial to figure out how much ram that model maxes out at and do just that. If you aren't using DSP cards for plug ins, the most amount of RAM you can throw at the system the better off you will be. I myself am running a 2011 27 iMac with lion and i can tell you that its definately desktop calibier parts in there. In fact as teh iMacs has become increasingly more powerful its teh reason the mac pros haven't gotten such radical updates in a while. If memory serves correct you have some DSP cards from UA i believe. I'd suggest looking into one of those expansion chasis that hold desktop cards and connect via thunderbold or firewire, then you could offload some of that processing as well. On 2/13/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I have an 11.5 Imac, quad core, 2GB ram running lion and PT 8.4. Now that I am activly using waves with some other plugins I am experiencing buffer bugs and CPU issues. Is anyone else using an Imac and if so, are there any tips to help stream line the way PT functions in it? Also I was talking to a friend yesterday and he was telling me that an Imac was more or less a highbread laptop and further away from the desktop family, does anyone have thoughts on that statement? I am asking because I feel like
Re: Busses auxes
I agree with, that eq and compression generally want to be used as inserts, however there is a work around like say if you wantto compress all the main vocals the same way. instead of loading the same compressor with the same settings on all their inserts, create a vocal send or AUX. Then instead of using one of the track sends to route to the vocal compression AUX, (as this is parellel as discussed below) Change the tracks output instead from your main outs to the vocal compression bus. Then change the Vocal Compression Aux output to your main outs. THes way all the audion on the vocal tracks flows through the compressor and then to the master. On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Jon, EQ and compression should go on the inserts. Putting them on an aux is considered parallel processing and you run the risk of running into phase issues. It can certainly be done but, for your purposes, the insert is the way to go. HTH, Slau On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: A couple things that have come up recently. First of all, more of a mixing question, but when mixing vocals for example, and putting compression on it. Should I put the compression plugin on the insert on the vocal tracks themselves, or is it the same if I put it on the Vocal FX Aux track I created? In my song I have three layers of vocals in the chorus, and I'm wondering if there's a difference if I put the compressor on the insert or make a Chorus FX track and put one compressor on that and just create a send on each vocal track that busses over to that aux. It seems like a send sends the signal out to a bus, and also send it to the normal outputs, i.e you'll have both an affected and unaffected signal if you're doing that. Which is probably fine for things like delay and reverb, but effectgs like EQ and compression where you want to change the sound entirely, I feel like you would still get the original signal leaking through. Is this what inserts are for? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Busses auxes
GOod Point it does depend on how much they vary and eq/compressors generally aren't very cpu intensive as i have done basic mixes like that on my Macbook Air. But i have also treated the tracks individually with what slight eq and slight compression was needed as well as sending them to the same comp bus for some overall glue... Guess its amatter of preferences and workflow like you said. On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yep, this is also a possibility but it assumes a couple of things: 1. All individual tracks are fine with no compression. This may or may not be the case. If some of the tracks are especially dynamic, they might peek out and disrupt the balance. It all depends on the source files, of course. 2. The same goes for eQ. If the source tracks vary between dull and bright and contain problem frequencies on some or all of the tracks, it might be better to treat them individually. If it's a ton of backing vocals, processing them through a bus and instantiating a plug-in on the auxiliary's insert is generally a good way to go, providing the original individual tracks are in good condition. If it's just a few tracks of vocals, processing power isn't a major concern these days. I think it's simpler just to keep things separate. I guess it's a matter of personal preference at what point the number becomes too high and bussing is preferable. Slau On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: I agree with, that eq and compression generally want to be used as inserts, however there is a work around like say if you wantto compress all the main vocals the same way. instead of loading the same compressor with the same settings on all their inserts, create a vocal send or AUX. Then instead of using one of the track sends to route to the vocal compression AUX, (as this is parellel as discussed below) Change the tracks output instead from your main outs to the vocal compression bus. Then change the Vocal Compression Aux output to your main outs. THes way all the audion on the vocal tracks flows through the compressor and then to the master. On Feb 4, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Jon, EQ and compression should go on the inserts. Putting them on an aux is considered parallel processing and you run the risk of running into phase issues. It can certainly be done but, for your purposes, the insert is the way to go. HTH, Slau On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: A couple things that have come up recently. First of all, more of a mixing question, but when mixing vocals for example, and putting compression on it. Should I put the compression plugin on the insert on the vocal tracks themselves, or is it the same if I put it on the Vocal FX Aux track I created? In my song I have three layers of vocals in the chorus, and I'm wondering if there's a difference if I put the compressor on the insert or make a Chorus FX track and put one compressor on that and just create a send on each vocal track that busses over to that aux. It seems like a send sends the signal out to a bus, and also send it to the normal outputs, i.e you'll have both an affected and unaffected signal if you're doing that. Which is probably fine for things like delay and reverb, but effectgs like EQ and compression where you want to change the sound entirely, I feel like you would still get the original signal leaking through. Is this what inserts are for? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess
Re: Need help from an expert or two regarding Arturia Cs-80V under Pro tools for Mac v9
If memory serves correct waves users have to use a control surface to change values u sing a control surface. On Feb 2, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Krister, I think there were some issues with third party plug-ins where it appeared that parameters weren't being changed when in fact they were. If I'm not mistaken, this was the case with Waves plug-ins. Some things you might want to try: Interact with a parameter and change its value using VO+left and right arrows. Turn off VoiceOver and turn it back on and check the value. Try closing the plug-ins window and reopen it and check the value. Maybe some folks using Waves plug-ins can chime in about their experiences. Slau On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi there. I downloaded a trial version of the softsynth CS-80V from Arturia in the hopes that i could modify and make own sounds using it as a plugin under Pro Tools. As expected, using it as a stand-alone synth didn't work at all with Voiceover but when using it as a plug under Pro tools i was able to see the parameters, presets and the like, but here is where i need help from experienced folks. It looks as though you can see the parameters and their values, but you can't change them at all. Interacting with the parameters and trying to move the arrows up and down don't seem to do anything, the value remains set as it was when first entering the plugin. Is this common and is there a workaround for such occations? Thanks in advance for any help. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using Voxengo plugins
I have used voxengo stuff back in my sonar days. They didn't have mac version for most the ones i used and i didn't know how accessible a VST to RTAS wrapper would be to be able to use them in PT so never explored them on the mac. Worked well enoguh with track inspector in sonar though. On Jan 31, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Is anybody able to use the voxengo plugin packs? Thanks Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Good control surfaces
Hello, Depending on budget, a seperate control surface and interface would probably be the way to go. M-Audio did the Project mix which doubles as both if memory serves correct, and i believe those has motorized faders. However word on the street the mic pre's on that unit weren't anything special, not to say they make bad recordings though. Also I am currently running with an Allen Heath Zed R16. It's a mixer that can also serve as an audio interface and has some control surface funtionality. However this model does not have motorized faders. that being said if you are using it as a control surface, to compramise for lack of motorized faders, the parameter you are attempting to change will not change till the fader is moved to the point where that particular parameter is set and then past it. Love it cuz its lots of knobs and buttons, like a real mixer, no control pannel to do routing through. tons of inputs and allows you to use it's eq's as inserts. The only major downside is as Pro TOols doesn't support standard midi learn and requires a control surface with HUI support, and the Zed R16 not having built in support for HUI, you will have to use a midi to HUI translator app to pass messeages in to PT to get it controlling it. On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Katie Zodrow wrote: Hi, Jed. I'm not sure if JL Cooper makes this model anymore. I can find out maybe on their website and let you know. Katie - Original Message - From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: RE: Good control surfaces That's awesome. I've ehard a lot about the JL cooper, do they still make it? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Katie Zodrow Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:25 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Good control surfaces Hi, Jed and everyone else on the list. My name is Katie Zodrow. I've used the JL Cooper CS10 and the MCS3800 control surfaces with ProTools in the past. I think I used the CS 10 when I took a ProTools class 9 years ago at Berklee College of Music in Boston. I graduated from there in May of 2004. In 2006 for about a year, I was a phone reservation agent at the Mariot call center booking their hotels. From 2007 to December last year, I worked at a call center for Walt Disney Travel company booking reservations and travel packages for the Disneyland resort over the phone. I quit my job in December at Disney because after 5 years there, I wasn't being challenged enough and doing travel reservations wasn't what I was passionate about. I feel like I'm definitely more passionate about doing something with music or digital audio recording. So I want to go back and work in the music industry either at a recording studio doing video description or go into piano tuning. Its been about 9 years since I've used the Mac and ProTools and I'm excited to get started! Right now, I'm currently renting a Mac with OS 10.6 for a few months and am working on learning to use Voiceover. I will be learning ProTools after this, so I'm pretty much new to this again with OS 10. Katie - Original Message - From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: Good control surfaces Hey gang, I'm thinking I would get a control surface for protools, any good ones? I like the scrub wheel idea. Does this also act as an in and out for plugging in mics and stuff, or is it strictly control. I think the scrub wheel thing would rock. Thanks,Jed -- -- -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Sound Cloud uploader
I used the site with little issues and the redesign seems to have made it more accessible. Also Pro Tools has asound cloud upload option in bounce to disc now, though thatmay be new to version ten. the sound cloud for the mac may be worth alook as well. aAlso audio editors like Fission allows for sound cloud upload right from the app. On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Poppa Bear wrote: Many Blind musicians have problems trying to put their music on Sound Cloud, but I was shown a uploader that is accesible, it only works for Windows, but given that many have both a Mac and a PC I thought it could be a great help to pass it on. It is free if you have a free Sound Cloud account and works like a charm. http://davykager.com/category/projects/sc-uplet/ HTH Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Versions of protools
I thought version 9 had issues on ML as well and not just version 10 or has someone verified that counters are readable in pro tools9 under ML? On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Keep in mind that if you want to use Pro Tools 10.x for now, you'll have to be on Lion rather than Mountain Lion or else you won't be able to read counter displays among other things. Slau
Re: PC keyboard with Pro Tools
in keyboard in system preferences you need to remap the positions of cmd and option. What we consider the ALT key on windows is the oPtion key on the mac keyboard, and what we consider the windows key is the apple or cmd key on the mac. So on the drop down menu for option, change it to command and the one for command change it to option and it will work like a standard mac keyboard. If you don't you will have to use control and ALT for your voice over keys for example. On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Do any settings need to be changed to use a PC keyboard with PT? Nate Kile, Cross Road Recording Studios, specializing in Mixing, Mastering and all your audio needs. www.crossroadrecording.com
Re: getting started
While i would be tempted to say the current Gen air with the 2.0GHZ processor and 8 gb of ram would be sufficient, if its going to be your only machine i'd say go with the mac book pro. I own a mid 2011 air with 1.8GHZ processor, 4GB of ramm and i can mix on it no problem wit aproject containing 12 to 24 tracks. Wouldn't try recording to one of those without an external drive though as that much constant writting to any SSD drive will shorten its life span greatly. If you go for the pro i'd spring for the 8GB or 16GB of ramm if affordable and a 128GB SSD as well. The advantage of the pro is you can swap out the cd rom drive for a second HD down the road should you so choose to. But like i Said you will need a second HD for recording for best performance no matter which laptop you go with, the pro just gives you more flexibility. As for Pro TOols. Any authorized dealer like the usual online ones are good places to start. If you need an interface its a better deal if you buy Pro tools bundled with one of avid's interface. I don't use midi much if at all so can't speak to that, so will leave it for others to answer. I prefer to build my drum tracks from drum loops personally. On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Cody wrote: Hi guys, So just to expand on the pro tools podcast for beginners, I was wondering if a macbook air with a 128 gig ssd and 8gb of ram will suffice. My agency will be buying me either this machine or a macbook pro, and was wondering if a bootcamp setup, leaving either os install 64 gb would be enough. Also, how does one going about selecting and obtaining/paying for a copy of pro tools. I know there are several versions, and though i've been on this list for months and have never said anything, the time is nearing that i may make the transition from sonar 8 5 to pt. Basically the only reason I'd use windows is to use cakewalk, but, is pt currently good enough to do that, I.E. extensive raw audio trimming, editing, moving things around, adding effects, etc, and I know the midi aspect is still a bit sketchy, so what are people doing for this. I'd primarily being using midi only for drums, as my very small apartment doesn't allow for a full sized kit. What are some good midi drum controlers, I've seen those all in one midi controlers with a few pads, and 49 keys and some other cool things, anyone got any input on this. I want to basically write my music as pain free as possible, and if that requires still using windows 7 until pt can catch up, so be it. in other words: Can someone describe to me the most ideal setup for a blind person to write music? I'm starting over from scratch and want to buy quality gear, but it still needs to be useable and accessible. Hardware specifrics would be appreciated. Thanks all Cody
Re: protools vs sonar with caketalking
Anyone tried midi editing with Garage Band yet? I know it has great sounds and soft synths, and audio editing is doable, but as a strictly audio guy myself, no experience with midi, but imagine it could be didited in the same fashion audio would be. One of you midi guys should give it a shot and report back maybe? On Jan 15, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Thomas, Things are changing and moving forward with accessibility. It'll be a long-term prospect but, since Avid has committed to making accessibility improvements, they themselves suggested that this should apply across the board, so that would include Sibelius. Don't hold your breath because, again, it's a long-term. Still, it's encouraging. Cheers, Slau On Jan 15, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Thomas Böttcher wrote: Hi guys, I'm interested in recording soft synths and also recording some audio like my piano plus voice etc. I'm currently using sonar and the caketalking scripts under windows, running bootcamp on my mac. In short, for all my other programs I am a convinced mac user. I'm experiencing some serious stability issues with sonar and windows and I'm slowly getting really sick of that. About one and a half years ago I heard for the first time a podcast by kevin Reeves about pro tools being accessible and was really thrilled. However, back then he concluded with the notion that it was great for recording audio but not if you wanted to record soft synths and work a lot with midi editing etc. That was one of the main reasons I went for sonar back then. Could anyone on this list advice me if there has been any significant progress on that matter. Another reason for me for going for sonar back then was the extensive documentation provided especially for blind users by dancingdots, since I was a total new comer on this subject. I don't expect the learning curve on pro tools to be low, though. As composer/arranger I've produced my work as sheet music, however I want to be able to produce it as well using sophisticated soft synth sounds and sample libraries. Is that doable with pt? Well, that's about it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot! Cheers Thomas
Re: Does Pro Tools have a lock track function
i think this and folder tracks are two of those features every daw but PT has hasn't haven't seen any sign of them. Would love to be proven wrong here. Meanwhile just render each track to an individual audio track with the effects/synths printed. will take forever bouncing each track though since pt can once again render in real time only… Can we get logic accessibility now? lol On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:01 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya All, I have a project which has just topped my computer's CPU off. It has a couple of software instrument tracks, and a lot of Eleven Free plugins. I can't even get it to play the opening bars LOL. So, I was wondering: Does Pro Tools have a lock track function like Garage Band does? I seem to remember Lock Tracks gave you the ability to bounce a single track to disc, so it wouldn't be processed. This seems like a really simple feature, so I'm just wondering if Pro Tools can do the same. Cheers, and have fun.
Re: Rolling back my Macbook Air for PT use, how far should I go?
The only accessibility issues in ML is with Pro TOols outside of PT its is a great OS with improvements in accessibility. How to wipe your disk and do a clean install. Get a bootable copy of the os you want to install on cd or usb thumb drive or on sd card if your mac has an sd card reader. Go into start up disc in system preferences and set that install disc as your start up disc, then restart your system. Give it a minute or two then turn on voice over. in the table navigate to disc utility and select your macintosh hd,, delete it, and then choose that new untitled drive as the place to install your new OS. If you have an air with an SSD or an pro, a multi time wipe to erase the data is not recommended, and disc utility may prevent u from doing it. On Aug 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote: Hi, I have had no major accessibility issues in mountain lion. What major issues have you had as lots of improovements have been made in mountain lion and if Apple broke accessibility you would not want to hear the complaints? Wipe my mac in icloud needs major accessibility work as none of the web buttons on icloud.com are labeled. Nick Gawronski On 8/28/2012 6:56 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hi all, I have a Macbook Air here that I primarily use when I'm on the move. Stupidly, I updated it to Mountain Lion, banking on a shaky theory that if the move from SL to Lion didn't break accessibility, Lion to ML probably wouldn't either. That's how well my theories work out! So, I'm going to roll back, only question is how far? I've not used PT on this thing yet, but it's a Core I5 1.6 GHZ with 4GB RAM and the 128 SSD, so I'm hoping it'll cope ok for editing and tweaking mixes. I've been using GarageBand on it up until now, but as much as it's cool as a scratch pad, we've started to fall out of love from a productivity standpoint. The furthest I can roll back officially is to Lion, as that's what the Air shipped with. HOwever, having done a bit of research, I reckon I've collected up the necessary extra drivers and whatnot to get Snow Leopard up and running. It'd be extra work, but by all accounts the battery life last around an hour longer and the benchmarks look marginally better running SL. Question is, has anybody noticed any differences that I should be aware of between running PT in SL and Lion? My other machine where I use PT is still on SL, so I haven't got any first hand experience of PT in Lion yet. Any advice appreciated. Scott
Re: Audio Studio Manager
Have to chime in here again and agree HRS is a great resource if you are interested in sharpening your skills in a daw agnostic manner. And the fatheads are great mice as i own a pair. Great for guitar cabs, acoustic guitar, flutes, horns, etc. Oter mic in my collection shine way better on vocals than those do IMO though, but they have others better suited for voice if thats your main instrument. On Aug 29, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi John, The home recording show is indeed good, although the title is becoming a little limited for its scope in ways. If you end up reading through this thread Slau I hope you feel peer pressure to make another episode! haha. That reminds me, I'm going to go back and listen to the episode about the Cascade ribbin mods as I'm going investing! Back on thread John, I couldn't seem to find audio studio manager when I searched in the ap store on my phone last night, is it spelled exactly as is? Maybe I'd just been mixing too long and I typed it in wrong, must check again. Also, how would he do a keyboard shortcut for iPhone exactly? Great to hear the developer is listening. Thanks for passing on the news about its level of accessability to us, If only I was in a position to charge per hour in my studio! Its useful none the less for logging hours put into a project. Brian. -- From: Jon Solitro jon.soli...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:56 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audio Studio Manager The full version of Audio studio Manager is $5 and there is a free trial version with which you can have one client. the cool thing about it is there is a clock you can start and stop when you're getting paid by the hour. It's better than using Numbers spreadsheets and entering a time when I start and stop and doing all the formulas and stuff. I talked to the developer and he's going to create a keyboard shortcut to start and stop the clock so we don't have to go scrolling through all the buttons to do it. The Home Recording Show is great. They come out with a new one every week pretty much and it's always informative and educational. I learn so much from it and they talk about recording in a more general sense, not specifically Pro Tools or a specific DAW. One of the hosts uses PT and the other one uses Reaper and they usually have a guest host on to talk about a specific area of recording. One of the best tools I've gotten for learning more about the craft of recording. Second only to Sessions with Slau. ; ) On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Chiapello Diego wrote: Hi John, very good news! But is it for free or you have to pay something? Moreover, at Home Recording Show did they talk about other programs used for recording and audio editing, different from Amadeus Pro, Garage Band, Pro Tools or Logic? In other words is there something new about? Tell us, if you want, about Home Recording Show! Have a nice day. Bye. Diego. 2012/8/29, Jon Solitro soli...@msu.edu: I just downloaded Audio Studio Manager from the App store, which I heard about on the Home Recording Show. It's great! Mostly accessible, and fantastic for keeping track of projects and clients. LOve it!
Re: Rolling back my Macbook Air for PT use, how far should I go?
if this is a general purpose machine as well as for PT use. I suggest lion as its miles ahead of SL in accessibility iMO. I really could use my mac day to day without annoyances till lion personally. And it would work well for mixing and etc as mine has slightly similar specs and works fine for mixing and etc. On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:56 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have a Macbook Air here that I primarily use when I'm on the move. Stupidly, I updated it to Mountain Lion, banking on a shaky theory that if the move from SL to Lion didn't break accessibility, Lion to ML probably wouldn't either. That's how well my theories work out! So, I'm going to roll back, only question is how far? I've not used PT on this thing yet, but it's a Core I5 1.6 GHZ with 4GB RAM and the 128 SSD, so I'm hoping it'll cope ok for editing and tweaking mixes. I've been using GarageBand on it up until now, but as much as it's cool as a scratch pad, we've started to fall out of love from a productivity standpoint. The furthest I can roll back officially is to Lion, as that's what the Air shipped with. HOwever, having done a bit of research, I reckon I've collected up the necessary extra drivers and whatnot to get Snow Leopard up and running. It'd be extra work, but by all accounts the battery life last around an hour longer and the benchmarks look marginally better running SL. Question is, has anybody noticed any differences that I should be aware of between running PT in SL and Lion? My other machine where I use PT is still on SL, so I haven't got any first hand experience of PT in Lion yet. Any advice appreciated. Scott
Re: Changing counter value
on the numpad *Time return should do the trick. So if u want to move to measure 20 press on the numpad, *20 then return on the alphabet keyboard side (not enter on the numpad.) *20.4 return will jump you to measure 20 beat 4. and *20.4.250 return will jump you to measure 20 beat 4 tick 250. i imagine it works the same if you have it set to real time and not measures and beats, just you will be punching in actually time values after the as trick rather than measure values. Slash does the same but with setting selection. so on the numpad, press the slash, then the start point, then slash again then the end point, then return. On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Jon Solitro soli...@msu.edu wrote: I can't seem to find where in the reference guide it tells how to move the cursor to a specific time or bars/beats. Any help?
Re: Addictive Drums
so if i understand correctly, addictive, slate drums, easy drummer, and etc, are programs that give you each individual part of a kit mapped to midi so you can use a keyboard, or other midi controller to *play* out the drum parts, then convert them to audio for mixing and etc. Just wanted to make sure i understood fully what these apps do. So is addictive drums the one thats most accessible or is there another reason for going with it? On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Addictive is an amazing program and totally worth it. I will gladly send you my GB presets so you can play with it. On Aug 25, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Well Kevin, if you think it is worthwhile doing, I'll buy Addictive next month, then I'll start doing them for ya. Chers. On 26 Aug 2012, at 00:43, Kevin Reeves wrote: I created all the presets, but there for GarageBand and logic. However, the trick is to rename each preset to start up. Then, reload the plug-in and save out that preset as its original name. It took me about a week to do all of the presets in spurts. If somebody wants to take this on I'll walk him through it. Then, I can post those to the website. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya All, Has anyone used Addictive Drums with Pro Tools and VoiceOver? I can access all the plugin parameters, and alter them, but I cannot change drum sounds. Looking through the Addictive Drums folder in my Application Support folder, there do seem to be presets, but they're in an Addictive Drums native format, so I cannot import them into Pro Tools. Does anyone have a set of presets made up already from the standard ones? or am I completely missing the point? Cheers, -- Chris.
Re: Did I read that correctly?
Speaking of which, anyone tried Adobe Audition out for accessibility on the mac yet? On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: See this Url. http://www.tuaw.com/2012/08/22/sound-forge-pro-apparently-coming-to-the-mac/ -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:49 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Did I read that correctly? Guys, it's not speculation. Sony announced this months ago. sony Creative Music division is launching the software within the next few weeks.
Re: Audio Interfaces (again)
Hello, I had an MBox upon tilla few months ago and its great when it works. The price difference is in the build quality and the mic pres and analog to digital converters and digital to analog converters. Also the MBox mic pres had a ton of gain on them so it worked great with ribbon and dymanic mics which are natorious for their low input. and usually on inexpensive audio interfaces once the last quarter turn of the gain pots on mic pres introduced so much noise they were unusable. Does this mean the less expensive interface sound like crap, no, but there may or may not be an audible difference when tracking through the respective interface. So unless you do a side by side interface shootout you probably wont be able to tell if the difference is just specs on paper. On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya mate, I want to be able to record from as many different inputs as possible, so 4 on the mBox, I'll hardly ever use more than that, and a bunch of outputs, so I can have dedicated monitor mixes etc. I loved the way the mBox Pro worked, and I'll probably get another one if the ProFire isn't great, also, I'm in the UK, so I don't really want to be buying stuff from the US LOL, but thank you for the offer. Chers, On 11/07/2012, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Hey man. What are you looking for in an interface? How many ins and outs? I'm currently selling 2 pieces. An M Audio Fasttrack Ultra, which has 6 ins and 8 outs for $200, and an M Audio Project Mix IO for $400, which is a control surface with motorized faders, midi, 8 ins, 4 outs, but expandable to 16 ins with the use of an ADAT Light Pipe interface. The pres on both units are great, and both units are in fantastic shape. Only downside is that the control panels are inaccessible, but once it's set, you're ready to go. Let me know if interested. Kevin -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: Automation snap shots
Hello, I am having a hard time finding the write automation to entire selection, any idea where it may be or a shortcut key for it. On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Steve, The problem with trying to do automation without a control surface is that the automation process will change the parameters to the automated values unless you either drag a fader or draw in the values by eye. If you did know, for example, that you wanted to drop the level of a track by, say, 6 dB, you can do something as specific as that fairly easily. Let's say your track is starting out at 0 dB and you've already begun the automation process by putting all tracks into Automation write mode at the beginning of the session, enabled volume automation within the Automation window and engaged the transport. After stopping the transport, move the transport to the playback position where you wish to make the drop in volume. 1. Put the track into Auto Write mode again. 2. Change the volume level of the track to minus 6 dB. 3. Engage playback but don't stop the transport right away. The last thing you need to do is write automation to the end of the session. There's a keyboard shortcut for it that I don't remember because I use a dedicated button for it on my control surface but you can find it in the Edit menu. Once you press that command, Pro Tools will prompt you asking whether you want to write the automation to the end of the session. Press OK and you're set. If you don't press the command to write to the end of the session, the automation will only write the minus 6 dB level to the track for as long as the transport is engaged. This would be handy, of course, if you only needed the track to be lower for a few bars or so. As with many things in Pro Tools, there's another way to do this. You can instead use Latch mode so that when you enter automation record mode, whatever your current value is, it'll write it to the end of the session automatically. This, of course, is great if you want that effect but not at all helpful if you just want to overwrite some automation in the middle and keep the rest of the automation moves. Further still, you can make a selection range and experiment with levels during playback and, once you've achieved the right level, choose Write to Entire Selection which will write the last level set to the entire selection range. Automation is extremely powerful and at the same time very dangerous. It's easy to have things go awry. For that reason, a control surface is really a super handy accessory. I don't think I'd try much automation without a surface myself. Hopefully that helps a bit. slau On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: Hello, Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation snapshots. Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with 2 instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different levels during playback withough using the fader approach?
Re: Dragging audio from the timeline
found this on the list a few months back and saved it in evernote for future referencs. Below are the steps I found on the internet for drag and drop with VO. I have a more streamlined approach, but as some of you may have slightly different VO behavioral settings, it's best that we start off with the more expanded but generic version. 1. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the item you want to drag. 2. Press VO-Command-F5 to move the mouse pointer to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can verify you have done this correctly with VO-F5 to hear what is under the mouse. 3. Begin the drag action with VO-Command-Shift-Space. you will hear the click of a mouse being pressed, but not released. 4. Turn off Cursor Tracking with VO-Shift-F3. 5. Using VoiceOver navigation commands, move to the location where you want to drop the item you are dragging. 6. Use VO-Command-F5 again to move the mouse cursor to the location of the VoiceOver cursor. You can press VO-F5 to verify you have done this correctly and hear what is currently under the mouse. 7. Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the item being dragged. You will hear the click of a mouse being released. 8. Turn your cursor tracking back on with VO-Shift-F3. I have set in the VO utility that the mouse follows the VO cursor, so steps 2 and 6 are unnecessary for me. As is steps 4 and 8. So assuming your VO settings are similar to mine, here are my steps as it relates to PT. 1. In the Edit window, go to and interact with the regions list. Assuming the cursor tracking is on, you can use the up and down arrow keys to select a region, use shift + up or down arrow keys to select contiguous regions, or use a series of VO commands (that I cannot remember right now) to select noncontiguous regions. I seem to recall that the latter requires the temporary deactivation of cursor tracking. 2. Press VO + Command + Shift + Spacebar for the down click. 3. Press VO + I for the item chooser menu. Then start typing the name of the track where you would like to drag the region (narrows down the options, saves time). Pressing return or enter on the desired item (i.e. track) from the chooser menu places the VO cursor on the desired spot.. 4. For the release, repeat Step 2, and presto! On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hiya all, I've been trying for maybe 3 hours now, and I don't think I know of anything else to try. I've googled, read the manual, and buggered about with it. Is there a way to move stuff from the region list onto tracks? I'm sure someone said that if I import a loop into the region list, it'll conform to the session tempo, then I can bang it on a track. I've tried the normal drag and drop stuff that used to work in grage band, but I'm not entirely sure where I'm dragging to, I've also tried option tab, which doesn't seem to do anything, as I think that has to do with the currently selected track, which has nothing on it in preparation for the new loop. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Cheers all, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject.
Re: Changing the loop tempo
Sonar alredy has something like that in the audio snap utility i believe. I believe its teh radius engine by izotope that sonar uses. How accessible it is i don't know since i haven't used sonar in a while. Keep in mind that sonar natively supports acid loops files and if you use the RXP player it can do REX loops as well. both of these should change with the tempo and still sound good with in reason. On Mar 6, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: I’m not using pro tools, am using sonar, but I was with one of my friends that he is using pro tools, and he can change the tempo for loops without damadging them at all. So, how can we do that outside pro tools? He told me that in por tools there is a blug in caled ilastic time stritsh, can’t we find something like this outside protools? Thanks so much Cheers: Ramy Moustafa Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios skype: roma30 Facebook: moustafa.r...@gmail.com Twitter: Ramymoustafa youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
Re: How to select multiple tracks without a controller.
Either rearange the window so they are, or in the track list table hide the tracks you don't want while working with the ones that are you nned to be next to each other On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Sonar Switcher iamablanksl...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello how can I select tracks for editing that aren't next to each other with the keyboard. It's a standard keyboard, not a laptop. I read about selecting tracks with control p and semicolon but what if they're not next to each other?
Re: software updater
PT 9.0.6 and PT10 officially support lion. it's up to you which one you want to use. On Mar 5, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I did a quick google, but couldn't find anything concrete. Is PT 10 better suited for Lion users? if so, I may consider buying a cross grade too. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 4 Mar 2012, at 19:26, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I was able to update to pro tools 10.0.1 and would also suggest you do the same. Your web browser should open to a page with information and download links. I downloaded and ran the file and updated with no issues and am running lion 10.7.3. One issue that should be addressed is that they suggest to turn off automatic updating in the mac operating system but my thoughts are that they will have to support those newer versions as the way mac is installed now if a user reinstalls they will automatically get the new versions if they like it or not so my point is why not just update ahead of time and get it over with? Nick Gawronski On 3/4/2012 1:13 PM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi all, did anyone have an issue with ProTools 10's software updater? When lunching ProTools amessage tells me that a new version is available. There is a details button I can click on, and then nothing I can interact with. I'm using a French Mac with lion. Could that be the problem? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: Mouse movement?
Hello, When that happens in Pro Tolls. Find the track in the track list table, right click on it by using VO+Shift+M, then arrow down to scroll into view and select it. Then try going back to the track you want, and do VO+Command+F5 to route the mouse to the VO curser. Now when you do VO+F5 it should say that the mouse is where the VO cursor. On Mar 3, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Sonar Switcher iamablanksl...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I seem to have a few mouse related issues. I tried every form of routing with voiceover but nothing seems to make the mouse move to some of the Pro Tools locations. When with a sighted person, they tell me the mouse is not near where I'm trying to click in Pro Tools. I have routed the mouse and tried changing cursor tracking. When I use VO F5 to see where the mouse is I would say 50% of the time it says something different than where I am in Pro Tools.
Re: time stretching
Do you know what loop format you are working with? I beleive pro tools should reconized acidized wav/mp3 and REX files. The only accssseble way to do this in theory is to import the loops into protools Regions list. then using click and drag with VO to put it on the track. The loops will then sync to th eproject tempo from waht i read. Unfortunately TroTools wond sync loops if they are imported right onto a track. On Feb 29, 2012, at 3:58 AM, baker420 baker3...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have two loops with different tempos is there a way to time stretch or no i know elastic audio isn't accessible to us what's the tce tool and is it accessible to us thanks
Re: Protools busy and interacting?
I believe with PT 9.05 or 9.06 PT has been supported on lion. Are you guys that are having issues running the latest version of PT or are you still on 9.0 or9.0.3? I am running lion 10.7.3 on both my macs and have no issues with my PT 9.0.5 or PT 10 installs. I am however running the Non HD version so your milage may vary, but if you are having issues, may be time to update to a later version if available. On Mar 1, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi John, I'm no PT expert, but have been on this list getting a feel for how its accessability is going and just want to say that Slau is always trying to be as helpful as possible with people on this list, and perhaps he came across the wrong way to you. He also generally knows what he's talking about and is a great engineer, and from what I gather having only known about him through this list and his own podcasts he's been using ProTools for quite a while and has been working with digital audio since the days when ProTools could only dream of being an industry standard. Part of the challenge with making the jump to PT 8 and Voice Over is remaining patient and making what you can of the up to date reference manuals etc, and then only when there are few other options, relying on the kindness of the list community to help answer questions and address problems, which is probably why I haven't yet made the jump to PT. On an entirely separate note, or getting back on topic actually, perhaps your problems with Voice Over and ProTools are related to the fact that your using Lion on the mac? As far as I know, Avid are often very slow to recommend upgrading to the latest version of the Apple opporating systems, so maybe that could be worth keeping in mind. That said, I used ProTools briefly last year and it did often get stuck reporting it was busy. I didn't know enough to begin to figure why it was doing it though. Hope that all helps and Slau, I don't mean to speak for you or come across as having a stalker like knowledge of you, but I think this list has a good atmosphere and I'd hate to see any misunderstanding develop. Brian. From: John Boral abas...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:06 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Protools busy and interacting? Slau, as I do very much appreciate the fact that you're being very helpful I do think you need some etiquette lessons. From the beginning I stated I've only had PT and VO for three weeks so it should be quite obvious that I have very little understanding which is why I joined this group. I believe had your explanation been more clear rather than saying you've had PT since version 5 and don't know about scrubbing and simply addressing my problem would show quite a bit more refined couth on your part. I understood this group was for helping new comers rather than tactfully condescending members. Someone like Chris who is admittedly also new to PT seems to have a better understanding of how to explain concepts and someone like Chuck who seems to have been with this for a while doesn't say things like, I don't know what your level of understanding is which again, could be taken very condescendingly.I'd appreciate you taking an extra minute and rereading a post because your answer wasn't even correct. When I had to further explain to you that scrubbing and selecting were different in PT 5 you then posted things had changed in 7.4. Had you read my original post throughout the first time we could have avoided 2 other posts on here. My level of understanding in PT 5 got me 2 grammy nominees and touring with one of the most famous bands in Canada. I don't know your age but I believe I'm older than you and have been using Digidesign products since the mid 80's and my level of understanding was apparently good enough whereby they even had changed a part about nudging in the manual back in the 90's when I brought it up to the attention of the engineers. I really don't want to make this a who's better than who war so again, I've never boasted about what I do on here and very clearly said I was new to anything after PT 5 and Outspoken from the beginning. I'm sure I was one of the very first blind users of Digidesign products from the 2 track version of Sound Designer to the 4 track version of Soundtools and so on. I could go on and on and tell you who the very first Digi engineer was and I had home phone numbers when the company had only 2 engineers and 1 product out. I've been trying to change with the times but got stuck in PT 5 and all I'm doing now is trying to do is as you stated, keep up with appearances but I don't believe anybody feels the need to be tested on their knowledge of PT in this group.
Re: Solo Safe
ProTools mp3 converter seems to work fine for me. But then again you guys with bionic hearing may disagree lol On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Sean A. Cummins wrote: Chuck, I found that if you swipe your finger lightly from right, to left across the magic mouse, it moves the view over and put the items in their proper places. Don't move the mouse, just swipe across the clicker from right, to left. Sean - Original Message - From: CHUCK REICHEL To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Solo Safe Hi I'm not sure about solo safeing any other way! But there might be? any body else? VO space bar ONLY works for me after you resize the Track List Table in the mix window. I must say again you should move the Track List Table 30% over to the right so the track names are more visually exposed for all the PT commands to work in the Track List Table. You need sighted assistance to grab the gray bar located at the top right of the Track List Table! Thats why i use pt templates with this already done! YMMV Chuck On Feb 28, 2012, at 3:29 PM, John Boral wrote: Hi Chuck, is there any way of solo safe toggle without the mouse? Also, you posted that you were able to select tracks without interaction by VO space on the actual track. Is that still working for you, not working with PT HD9.
Re: Protools busy and interacting?
Hello, When u use the keyboard to put the cursor where u want it. Do VO+Command+F5 to move the mouse to where the VO cursor is. VO+F5 will comfirm if the mouse has been moved there. theyn you should be able to VO+shift+space to do a mouse click with the keyboard, or in the case of the solo safe press and hold command on the keyboard and click with athe real mouse. Unfortunately VO doesn't recognize modifier keys being pressed with the keyboard mouse click. This is why you can't just do VO+command+shift+space to solo safe with the keyboard. Hope that helps and wasn't too confusing. Oh and yes scrool into view can help if the a above tip isn't working as well. On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:34 PM, John Boral wrote: Thanks Chuck, I'll try the gray bar tonight. Can you tell me if you've ever gotten a Protools Busy message that doesn't stop unless you force quit? I'm getting it often lately. Also, maybe you can help with 2 other things, #1 I frequently get apple menu is under the mouse no matter how things are routed. I believe it's because the VO cursor is in a place that the mouse can't follow. What are the proper commands to fit everything on the screen, somebody talked about a scroll in to view, is that it? #2 Is there something quick that can let you see 1 aspect of many tracks, for example, any way of knowing the status of solo, mute, record, read, write, latch, touch as you move up and down? Like if you have 24 tracks just hitting down arrow in the automation field and hearing off, off, off, read, read, latch, touch etc. Or scrolling down a part that would say, the track name and record on or record off as you go through each track. The way I'm doing it now is interacting with each track and I have to go through each column 1 by 1 to hear the state of where things are.
Re: Protools busy and interacting?
Right click on the track in teh rack list table or VO+shift+M and arrow down to scroll into view and vo+space on it On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:18 PM, John Boral wrote: Hi Stephen yes, I'm doing exactly that but the mouse doesn't move a majority of the time. Mostly when I'm interacting with something like a tracklist or somewhere far in to a window. I think it's because VO is saying where I am but it must be off of the screen for themouse to get to it. That's why I believe it always says apple menu under the mouse. It does work some times so I know it's working it's just that more times than not it doesn't work. Can you tell me the command for scroll in to view and maybe resizing the window all of the way if you think that will help?
Re: Mixing practice
there is www.mixwithus.com may be a paid service though On Feb 16, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Stefan Albertshauser wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know, where I can download projects to practice Mixing? Thanks. Stefan
Re: a couple of questions before getting started with protools
Personally I'd say get the solid state drive now upgrade RAM later. I have 2 current gen macs an air and iMac both with 4GB of Ram and both had handled mixing Pro Tools Projects with about 12 to 16 tracks and a healthy amount of plugins with no hiccups. As current Macs stand the hard drives in the stock default setups are the biggest bottle neck. That being said if all you can afford is a stock configuration That should still be more than enough to get you started, though at the very minimum I'd suggest the $50 to upgrade from a 54RPM stock drive to the 7200RPM version. On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Cameron Strife wrote: Hi. The 15 inch mac book pro with I7 processor is a great machine and upgrading your ram to eight gigs would give you even more horsepower for plug ins etc! I have one and use it all the time. I have a dual boot system setup with Mac OS X on one half and Windows seven 64 bit on the other half. (I have this setup on both of my macs.) Going for a solid state internal drive would be a wise choice too, but personally, I'm waiting until price comes down. I have an older mac pro eight core desktop as well as my mbp. I love my macs and I see no reason to return to pcs. You'll have thunderbolt as well as firewire 800 on your mac so you will have a lot of powerful I/O choices, especially with what will be coming out soon as far as interfaces, hds, and control surfaces etc. As far as pro tools, it's very important to really dig in to the included documentation... Cameron. On 2/24/12, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Sure, email me off-list, and I'll send you me skype details. On 24/02/2012, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to talk to you a little bit before I get the Mac if that's cool to ask you a couple more questions so I can do it off list Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm using a MacBook Pro 15 for all my recording, in fact, I'm using BootCamp from the same machine now to write you this email, so in short, they're awesome machines. As possibly one of the newest members to this list, I didn't find the very basics of Pro Tools too hard to get into. Alls I had were Kevin's podcasts, which I still refer too quite a lot, so once again, cheers Kevin, and the lovely people on this list putting up with my main disability, cronic stupidity LOL. So yeah, Pro Tools is great, OS X is great, VoiceOver's great, and Kevin's podcasts are great. If you feel you want a little more help when you get your mac etc, I don't mind talking to you on Skype, and sharing the little I know as a new PT user. As for textual documentation, I considered writing something like this, and I might yet, but so far as I know, we've only got the podcasts out there thus far. HTH, and I'm sure you're going to have a great time with PT! On 24/02/2012, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am getting ready to take the mac plunge, and I was wondering what people might would recommend. I am looking at getting the macbook pro with the 15-inch monitor, and the quad cor i7 processor but upgrading the drive to 8 gigs. Was kind of wondering what people are using who are using the macbook pros for recording. Also, I have been doing alot of reading on the voiceover screenreader getting the commands under my belt before I purchase the mac so I won't have such a huge learning curve ahead of me. My question on the protools side of things is this: I know that Kevin Reeves has done 3 great podcasts on using protools with voiceover, but I was wondering if anyone has written any guides as far as using protools with voiceover or are there any other podcast tutorials out there. I thought maybe that was in the works, that someone was writing the textbooks for the protools certification courses so that blind people could take those courses as well. Just was wondering what is out there to learn the program with voiceover if anything. Thank you for your help, Brian -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com --
Re: iloc question and using pro tools 10 on a mac book pro
When i bought a box version of ProTools 9 it came pre loaded with the license on teh iLok. When I upgraded to version 10 then i had to log into my iLok account and retrieve the license and transfer it to my iLok. But this was mostlikely to me getting the download version of the upgrade. On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:44 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: My boxed Pro TOols 9 was the same way. The key had the auth on it already. Not sure how, but it was there. On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I bought pro tools 10 and it came with an ilok preloaded with a pro tools 10 authorization. I have registered pro tools with avid but as of yet have not created an ilok.com account should I do this even if my ilok has the proper license on it already? Also, I have a mac book pro 17 inch model late 2011 and am trying to find out do I really need a full sized apple keyboard as I normally don't use a num pad can I get by with none? Also, I am also trying to find out the best way to read the manuals as if I navigate to the proper chapter and do a say all I find that voiceover does not always speak everything and sometimes speech will stop or parts of words are cut off. When speech stops when doing a say all which should not happen I have had to hit voiceover and down errow to go down then hit say all again which I should not have to do. I also have a pc with adobe acrobat and open book version 9 but can't find a way to jump to the correct chapters in either program any ideas on the best way to read the manuals or ways to convert them to other formats or audio files so I can read them on a different system or device and do the recording and work on pro tools? Nick Gawronski
Re: ProTools mp 9
Hello, as far as i know mp9 is just pt9 but limited to work on M-Audio interfaces only. So i'd imagine it would still work just fine On Feb 18, 2012, at 6:43 PM, James Lee wrote: Hi, I'm thinking about buying a new M-Audio interface, fast track c400, and I see there's the one that comes with Pro Tools mp9. I'm wondering if if ProTool mp9 is accessible like regular Pro Tool. Thanks for your help, JL
Re: might be getting protools on my computer, some advice
Hello, Unless something has changed recently, the student edition is just a discounted version of the program for anyone who can proove their a student. I don't know if this applies to pro tools or not but sometimes the only downside is that you may not be allowed to take advantage of upgrade pricing to move to the next version. Best best is to ask the seller what the differences are, but from an accessible point its the same program sold at a discount for students. On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi Frank, I don't know, but I probably won't be doing anything too large with it, just small maybe 4 or 5 track recordings. It's to mainly practice with it, since we use it at school all of the time, but there's no way for me to really learn it there. Courtney On 11/02/2012, at 3:00 in the Afternoon, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hello Courtney I don't know about the differences between the student addition and the full addition so I'll let other chime in about that. My first question for you is what kind of recording are you planning on doing on this system? The lack of firewire will be quite limiting in both interface choices and number of tracks that you can record and playback do to the usb bus being much slower. HTH --FC On Feb 11, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I might be getting protools on my standard, white macbook, I see a student edition of protools 10 is for sale for $249.99, is it the same from an accessibility standpoint? Or will I have to go all out and spend the $600? Thanks, Courtney
Re: auto trim
Below you said that the nudge value can be set independent of the main counter. SO if my main counter is set to Bars/Beats. how would i go about selecting that the nudge values be set to minutes? I also assume that it is by default set to match the main counter? On Jun 9, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: The increments are 60 ticks, 120, 240, 480, 1 beat and 1 bar. I'm pretty sure those are the preset increments. I don't know if there are any presets for SMPTE. Regardless of Main counter values, the nudge value can be set independently so you can be in bars/beats and still nudge in Minutes:seconds. Slau On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:26 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote: If you are working in a project set to beats and measures does those nudge values still work in actual time of 1 ms 10 ms etc etc, or does it then give u fractions of a beat? On 6/8/11, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, The only thing I can think of right now is that, if the regions are trimmed automatically, you can make adjustments to the beginnings and endings by 1. Control-Tabbing to each region. This will automatically select the region. 2. Use Option-plus or minus (on the num pad) to adjust the beginning of the region and Command-plus or minus to adjust the end of the region. The nudge value determines the amount by which the region boundaries are adjusted. Use Command-Option-plus and minus to jump between the preset values which, in minutes and seconds, are 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds, 100 milliseconds, 500 milliseconds and 1 second. These values don't wrap around, FYI. Hopefully, that makes sense. Let me know if you need more clarification on that particular approach. Best, Slau On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: Hi all, While editing a voiceover track, I came across a function I hadn't seen before. If you press command-U while a region is selected, it will trim out the breaths and such for you with reasonably good results. There is, however, a control for threshold and level that Voiceover can see and interact with, but when you try to change the slider, nothing happens. You can't enter a DB level either. Is there a work around for this feature? The other question is, how do you select the entire track for the auto trim rather than just one region at a time. Command-a doesn't do it. Thanks for any help. Friendly, Chris
Re: Common Task via the keyboard.
Hello, When importing WAV files, pro tools doesn't seem to prompt me to save it in the project audio folder. But when importing mp3 files it does this and converts them to wav files. What can i do to get it to copy wav files to the project folders audio files folder when importing? Using PT10 if it matters. On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Steve, 1. To add multiple files to their own tracks in Pro Tools, use the Import Audio command and navigate to the first file you wish to add. Press Return (not Enter) and then navigate to each file you wish to add, pressing Return for each of them. When you're done, press the Done button and you'll be prompted to choose the folder into which you'd like to import the files. By default, it's the session's Audio Files folder. Assuming that's you're choice (and it should be), just press Return. The final dialog will ask if you wish to import into the Regions list or into new tracks. Select the proper radio button for your task. HTH, Slau On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote: Ok once again not sure if this is PT acting up due to me using version 9.05 with lion or if i am doing something wrong. First question, Is there a way to A) select multiple files and add them to a project at once each on their own track using the import audio dialogue? and B) select multiple tracks at once and change their output to the same bus or Aux track using a keyboard only with VO? Also is the shortcut for muting and soloing tracks different with VO on t than whats printed in the short cut key list?
Re: mac question
no special software needed so long as both computers are on the same network, just set the CD/DVD Rom drive to be one of the shared drives on the network. This ofcourse requires your to set up networking so the computers can share files and etc. On Jan 19, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote: Yes that's rite, no macbook has a full keyboard and as J.R mentioned the best option is the full USB keyboard because the bluetooth one and a extra external keypad doesn't work very well together. The Mac mini was also mentioned and I also think that's a good option if you're whilling to scrap the mobility you'll get with the macbook pro. The mac mini server also comes with a quad core i7 processor, can also go up to 8 GB RAM and it can take 2 hard drives. Only negative for me about the mini is the latest generation doesn't have a CD/DVD drive but this is no problem if you already have a external drive or another computer, not sure but there's some software which you use to basically borrow another computers disc drive for your mini. Stephen Martin wrote: as far as i know no apple laptop has a ful keyboard. On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:30 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: Thanks for the correction. I was unaware of the difference and the lack of firewire. I have a 15 inch and it doesn't have a full keyboard. Does the 17 inch? I used the 15 inch without a full keyboard for a while but I must say that the full is better. As far as Bluetooth goes, I don't know of a full keyboard but the combination of keyboard and stand alone numpad is a big problem. The short answer is it doesn't work. There appears to be a problem with catching modifier keys from the keyboard and then the numpad entry. J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: mac question As already said I also think macbook pro is your answer. I'll say the 15 or 17 because they come with the quad core i7 processors and the 13 only comes with dual core i7's. If you configure your perchis in the online apple store you can opt for the 7200 RPM 750 GB hard drive rather than the 5400 RPM, think this is $50 extra and will help a lot. As also said 4 GB RAM will get you far but if you can get 8 GB just because you can. If you get a external apple keyboard with a numpad which I recommend, just remember the bluetooth keyboard also doesn't have a numpad or as far as I know anyway, only the wired one is a full keyboard. The reason for me for not wanting a macbook air is that it doesn't have firewire and I use a firewire interface so maybe you should consider the same. Monkey Pusher wrote: Oh and you will need a full sized keyboard, as most of the pro tools keyboard shortcut relies on the number pad. whether u use a bluetooth full sized keyboard or just plug in a wired full sized keyboard to one of your usb ports is up to you. On 1/18/12, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks JR. Is this something I can actually buy off the shelf? Also would I need a bluetooth keyboard? Also, what's the difference in the mac book pro and the mac book pro air? Also, just as a side question, I saw you were possibly converting the protools 101 textbook in to braille, and I was wondering how that was coming along... Thanks, Brian - Original Message - From: J. R. Westmoreland To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: RE: mac question Mac Book Pro is great. I have one. Mine os a bit older but is still very sericable. The new Mac Book Pro Air with quad-core processor is very nice. If you can get the 7200 RPM drive the performance of the drive would help. Get at least 8GB of memory as well. Just my 2c worth. J. R. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:06 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: mac question Hello folks, I am really considering jumping in to the world of mac for recording now. My question is this... I am thinking about buying a laptop for recording. What would you guys recommend as the best laptop to buy? I was thinking about purchasing the macbook pro but I was wondering what people's thoughts were and is this something that I could purchase off the shelf in an apple store or something or would I have to buy this from somewhere that just sells stuff for audio production? Also, what would people recommend as the best version of protools to get? Thanks, Brian
Re: Transfering tapes to digital.
If i split the file into different regions, ould it give me the option to export each region as a different file? On Jan 8, 2012, at 9:11 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Steve, Once you've transferred, you can apply Audio Suite plug-ins if necessary and then export the files using Command-Shift-k which will prompt you for a file format and location, etc. You don't have to do it in real time if you don't want to. HTH, Slau On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: Hello, I would like to rip my old tapes to a digital medium. My only question is what do you guys recommend using on the mac. I could use pro tools and split them up into regions and export each reagion as a different file. Figured this would be quicker since Pro TOols only does a real time render and that could get more time consuming. Any other apps you guys would recommend that would make this task easier? Garage Band, Amadeus Pro etc. Thanks.
Transfering tapes to digital.
Hello, I would like to rip my old tapes to a digital medium. My only question is what do you guys recommend using on the mac. I could use pro tools and split them up into regions and export each reagion as a different file. Figured this would be quicker since Pro TOols only does a real time render and that could get more time consuming. Any other apps you guys would recommend that would make this task easier? Garage Band, Amadeus Pro etc. Thanks.
Re: what is best for a blind Protools or sonar
In my opinion, If you got a powerful enough PC get Sonar or Reaper. In the end they all do the same things with pretty much the same features, and are all capble of making professional consumer recordings. It's just the way of getting there is different.The advantage of Pro Tools is being able to walk into just about any studio in the world with a pro tools session and being able to open it up. Though if you use sonar or reaper, it's simply a matter of exporting the raw tracks and importing them into pro tools at the studio. On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote: Hello all One of my blind friends have asked me, what is best for a blind user, Protools for mac or sonar for windows. I hope anyone here on this list can answer this question best regards jorgen
Re: record more than one track and editing tracks
Yes arm all the tracks u want to record and select their imput sources then hit record when ready like u did for the single track. This time all tracks that are armed will record whatever is coming in on their imputs on that specific track. What kind of editing are u looking to do? Have you listened to kevin's podcast yet? He covers alot of those basics. On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote: ,hello all i have now recorded a track. is it possible to record more than one track at the time. are there anyone, there can explain, how to do that. ⢀ is it also possible to edit tracks,. can anyone explain how to do that with voiceover? thanks in advance best regards jorgen
Re: which version of pro tools to by?
As far as i understand they all work pretty well with voice over. That being said you tend to get a better deal when u buy it bundled with an audio interface. If you don't have an interface already and you are just getting started, And you are doing basic recordings like vocals, and some instruments one at a time, then the m powered fast track pro bundle could get you into PT for around $330 with an interface. If you like it and stick with it you can upgrade quite easily. I could be wrong but i think the only limitation with m-powered pro tools now is that it still only works with m-audio soundcards, where as regular pro tools will work with any audio interface now. On Dec 21, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Stu wrote: Hi all. I am thinking about perchacing Protools, and as i am just starting out with this software, i was wundering which version of pro tools do I need to perchace? also which version works the best with the voice over screen reader?. many thanks for all of your help. Regards. Stu.
Re: pro tools 10 accessibility question for a new user with a mac book pro 17 inch
That is one large laptop u got there my friend, hope u have a suitcase to cary that lunch tray around in lol. Any versionf of Pro tools from version 8.04 and up is accessible with Voiceover on the mac. Get comfortable with Voice over first. That being said its not completely accessible. If memory server correct Majority of the audio recording and editing and mixing is accessible. Not all midi stuff is however, I can't comment on that as I don't use midi and at all and all my audio needs are met with the program. IF you have an avid interface selecting inputs and outputs in Protolls should be fine, but stuff you may have to go into the controls control pannel for in system preferences may or may not be accessible. 4GB of ram should be fine as I am perfectly capble to mix 10 to 12 track projects on my MacBook air with 4GB of ram and their are a couple of plug ins on each track. So get to know your mac then venture into the world of ProTools. On Dec 20, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, I am new to this group. I am going to school to learn audio engineering and need to know pro tools before I start using it in the class room or the lab at college. I am totally blind and have a 17 inch mac book pro with 4 GB of ram. The system also has a 750 GB hard disk. Will I be able to use pro tools 10 with voice over if I know how to use voice over on the rest of the mac operating system? I bought pro tools 10, but have not unwrapped it as they told me if it is not accessible and still wrapped I can return it. What hardware will it come with and is this hardware going to cause any issues with voice over? If I need to upgrade my mac book pro to support more memory; What is the maximum I can go up to on this computer within reason? I am just trying to find a good method for learning pro tools and want something stable where the program has lots of memory to work with and where I will not have the program crashing because of not enough ram. Nick Gawronski
Re: getting started with pt 10, new user
PT should work with any audio card that works with the mac just about. So long as it supports the core audio standard i believe. On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Hi there, ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com should get you signed up. I'm not a protools expert on this list, but I can answer some questions for you. To my knowledge protools ten has the same accessability that protools 8.0.4 and 9 etc have. Other may correct me on this. As for using your current interface, it depends what interface you have, but most should be compatible now I would imagine, check on the avid website. There are no official manuals or tutorials other than the infformation on this list about using protools with voice over on the mac, but looking through the archives here, and saving what questions you have after doing so thurrowly for asking the experts on this list is the best way to go about it. Its always recommended that you get your head around how protools works in general first also as a sequencer/editor by reading the manual, before beginning to worry about voice over with it. It also helps to get familiar with the voice over screenreader on the mac also. Hope that helps, Brian. -- From: Cody cdog2...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:09 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: getting started with pt 10, new user Hi guys I'm not sure how to subscribe to this list, but can anyone give me any material on the accessibility of pt 10? what can and can't be done? Do I necessarily need any digidesign hardware or can i use what I've got? Cody
Re: Reverbs EQ, Compressors and etc.
Hey, could you send me the waves controler surface mapping stuff that you have please. I I found a sale on a couple of their plug ins, but i want to try the demos out before deciding to purchase though. Thanks. On Sep 21, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote: `Hi Monkey,Here are my go to reverbs. Waves Parametric Convolution Reverb IR-1, IR-L and IR-360 TL Space impulse response reverb is very good also. TL Space includes an extensive impulse response library, divided into the following categories. Table 82. IR Library Categories Category Description Halls Halls and auditoriums Churches Churches and chapels Rooms Large and small rooms Chambers Traditional studio reverb chambers Plates Classic electromechanical reverb plates Springs Classic electromechanical reverb springs Digital Reverbs Classic and contemporary digital reverb units Post Production Post production impulses Tiny Spaces Small reverbs from everyday objects Pure Spaces A selection of Pure Space impulses in multiple categories Effects Non-reverb effects for sound design in multiple categories •Colors Sound coloring and positioning •Cosmic Spacey smears and washes •Impressions Smears and washes that evoke an image •Industrial Heavy machinery •Periodic table Better living through chemistry Talk sooon YMMV User’s Guide On Sep 21, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote: Any suggestions for starting points on reverbs? Thanks. On 9/20/11, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Monkey, Waves H-comp is my current go to compressor Waves VEQ3. is my current EQ. All of the Waves mastering stuff is just gorgeous also. I attached the manuals below; Talk soon On Sep 19, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote: any favorites, any you recommend starting out with? give me a few to look at and i'll go grab some demos and have a play. Their list of plug ins are daunting. On 9/19/11, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Monkey, With the Waves stuff you half to document what faders are assigned to what. If you have some waves stuff Contact me off list and I will bring you up to speed. YMMV On Sep 19, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote: yeah i just aquired a control surface and am in the process of setting that up. So are teh waves stuff fully ? On 9/19/11, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I use Waves exclusively! I'VE Heard most of the rest and Waves is the best! You definitely need a control surface though at this point. YMMV Talk soon On Sep 19, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Stephen Martin wrote: Hello All, So I am starting to work on more mixing and editing in ProTools now and was wondering if you guys had any favorite plug ins outside of the degi or avid plugin ins that ship with pro tools tat u would like to share, especially the 3 i mentioned in the subject line. Haven't really found a built in reverb i like yet, and the eq's seem great for cutting and are transperent and all but what else is out there. I have gathered a ton of favorite 3rd party plug ins I used from time to time on the pc, but needless to say most don't have a mac version. Thanks. Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com IR-1.pdf
Re: What Am I Doing Wrong?
Thanks for all the suggestions, they helped and i have been having more success trying the different things suggested here. Thanks again On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Frank, that's an excellent suggestion. Next time I have any focus issue, I'll try that as well. Slau On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi Slau and all What I have found is that most of the time the window has scrolled off the screen even though voiceover still sees elements. If I use the scroll in to view it brings the track that I am working with on to the viewable display and then all of the functions work. This is not always the case so try things until you find what works in the situation your in. HTH --FC On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi Stephen, VoiceOver can sometimes announce that the mouse cursor has been routed to the VoiceOver cursor when, in fact, it has not. I can't tell you how to re-create this glitch or how exactly to solve it. What you need to do is, after routing the mouse cursor, double-check what's under the mouse cursor with Control-Option-f5. You should hear something like, Solo button is under the mouse cursor. Otherwise, you'll usually hear something like, Apple menu is under the mouse cursor or Nothing is under the mouse cursor. In those cases, you might want to try nudging the mouse cursor manually and retry, make sure the cursor isn't stuck in the menu bar somehow, try routing to another control temporarily, make sure there are no open windows blocking the control like the pesky Force Quit Applications dialog. HTH, Slau On Nov 3, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Stephen Martin wrote: I am having an issue with using modifier keys and the mouse click. As i understand it,change all the selected tracks to to a send or output you hold down shift option and click on the send or output assignment pop up button and then select the disired option. Also to solo safe a bus, you ommand click on its solo button. I can't do either of these things with any consistancy, sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. It also seems that even though i have mouse cursor set to follow voice over curser, some times i still need to route the mouse curser to voice over since its not on the same opbject that voice over is on. Also it tells me nothing is in keyboard focus, Is there a way to bring keyboard focus to those items before excuting the mouse click? Is that even necessary? What steps am i Missing? I Navigate to Item i want to change cammand+option+control+F5 to route mouse to voice over curser and it announces as much Hold down modifier keys and click mouse Is that all or did i miss something?
What Am I Doing Wrong?
I am having an issue with using modifier keys and the mouse click. As i understand it,change all the selected tracks to to a send or output you hold down shift option and click on the send or output assignment pop up button and then select the disired option. Also to solo safe a bus, you ommand click on its solo button. I can't do either of these things with any consistancy, sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. It also seems that even though i have mouse cursor set to follow voice over curser, some times i still need to route the mouse curser to voice over since its not on the same opbject that voice over is on. Also it tells me nothing is in keyboard focus, Is there a way to bring keyboard focus to those items before excuting the mouse click? Is that even necessary? What steps am i Missing? I Navigate to Item i want to change cammand+option+control+F5 to route mouse to voice over curser and it announces as much Hold down modifier keys and click mouse Is that all or did i miss something?
Re: took the plunge to pt10
Well I haven't even received my authorization card for 10 in the mail yet, so i haven't even downloaded and installed it yet. Cuirous to know if clip based gain is accessible though. On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:53 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Guys, Have you guys let Avid know about the stuff that is not working yet? especially The channel strip? The Squeaky wheel gets the voiceOver working! :) YMMV Chuck On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote: Bummer, i recently purchased an upgrade as well mainly since lion is on all my macs and i was hoping it would bring an end to the ocasional crash or other issue i have with 9.05 on lion. The channel strip is one one feature i was looking forward to using , but i guess i'll have to stick to the plugs that has worked for me thus far on that one. I think the new plug in format is supposed to bring 64 bit support to PT plug ins. On 11/1/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: Well, I got pt 10, why, because it was there. That being said, I really wanted to use the channel strip. It is not accessible with VO. The one good thing so far is that it does let you record to interleave files, so that they are true stereo wav files. They are going to start using a new plug-in format for some reason. I think that it may be doing a bit better at assigning the busses to the outputs and labeling them properly. Also, if you have some new proprietary controller it is supposed to give you support to a whole host of functions. I haven't really explored it fully. One thing though is that if you change any routing you need to save in the newer format which I guess will not be backward compatible. I thought we would be getting some new instrument content but I really didn't see anything different after installing it. I just wish the strip was accessible;le. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:53 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Authorising ProTools David, Some installers are quirky in the way VoiceOver interacts with them. Try routing the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and performing a mouse click either with a physical mouse or with the VO-Shift-Space Bar. HTH, Slau On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I've finally got round to trying to get ProTools installed on the Mac after having it since July, but I can't authorise it because I have no way of unchecking the use Licence card option. I press VO space on it and it says unchecked but when I shift tab the tab to it again it tells me that it's still checked. There seems no way to uncheck the box using VO. Also weirdly, none of the buttons like authorise, back, next, quit etc work with VO space; you have to press enter on them in spite of VO telling you to press VO space. Any ideas; or do I need to get someone sighted to do this for me?
Changing Tempo PT 2
Another question, How do i turn a selection into a loop file so when i move it to a new place in the project it snaps to the new tempo? Thanks I think I resolved my other tempo issue. I unchecked the preserve tempo after this measure button, and then inserted a new constant tempo at each measure where iit changed. Any other ways to go about this issue?
Changing Tempo
Hello, again. My next challenge to conquer in pro tools. I have a song i am working on where the tempo remains the same throughout most of the song. But as is somewhat common in music, towards the end the song slows down to an end. I got the Tempo set for the majority of the song, but i can't seem to figure out how to change the tempo at the points i want it to change at the end. I tried looking in the various options under the eventTempo menu, but when I pick any option other than constant, all i get is a dialogue box that has a pop up button with the options from the menu and the one i selected checked, and an apply button. So how can i enter the new tempo at each measure i needed it to change at?
Re: working with full sized keyboardd
I was trying to avoid doing that as i use those shortcut keys pretty frequently. But now that i know where the FN key is on the full sized keyboard it takes a lot less finger gymnastics to set them to standard function keys and then to just use the FN key in combination with one of them to do the short cut. I leave it the default way on laptops though since the FN key is next to the VO keys and its easier to hit it when doing VO commands. Thanks guys for helping me sort this out. On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Go into system prefs/keyboard, and tell it to use those keys as standard function keys. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:45 PM Subject: working with full sized keyboardd Ok so i have a full size apple wired keyboard that i use with PT. However the Funtion keys across the very top row is programmed for all the OSX shortcuts like screen brightness, volume etc. So say when i do VO+F3 nothing happens. On my laptop i would press VO+FN+F3 to resolve this. How do u do the same on a full sized keyboard that doesn't have a FN key?
Exporting Files
Is there an easier or quicker way to export multiple Files from a project to individual wav files? Pro Tools only appears to do a real time bounce and to solo each track and then bounce can get tedious. I Remember in reaper You would select all the tracks you want, and in the bounce dialogue box you would check export stems and uncheck export mixdown if you just wanted the individual tracks exported to individual wav files. So any way of doing Something similar thing in Pro Tools?
Re: Working with Busses.
no dice on that one either. BTW how do u deselect a track with out selecting another track. I ended up selecting the click track and deleting it since i didn't need it anymore. On Oct 23, 2011, at 1:18 PM, HF wrote: Go into the track list table and make sure that no tracks are selected. HF On 10/23/2011 1:15 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: Shift+1 doesn't appear to change anything. Project is still adding the send to every track. Just tried a few times. Also when i look at the group list pop up button the options for deleting group, modifying groups are dimmed. Also toggling shift+1 doesn't seem to activate or deactivate the suspend all group option on the group list pop up menu, but then again i am not sure if it should. Any other place i can see what groups are active and deactivate them? Thanks On Oct 23, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: If you do have groups created, make sure that the All group, which is automatically present in every session, is inactive. Shift-1 is the shortcut for toggling it on and off. That's what I'd look at first. HTH, Slau On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: Hello, Working on a project and i am stuck here. So this project has about 10 tracks with a few sends. There is a Drums and Vocal buss that all the drum and vocal tracks are pointed to from the output menu of their respective tracks. A submit buss that all the tracks outputs point to, and a chorus and delay bus that different tracks are sent to. Now whenever i try to add a new bus as a send on one track, its putting it on every track in the project. Why is this? What or where did i go wrong? There doesn't seem to be any active groups for me to disable that all my tracks became a part of somehow, so any other suggestions? Thanks
Re: Exporting Files
Hmm I am guessing it's something deeply rooted in the ProTools code why they haven't introduce faster than real time bouncing like every other DAW out there just about? It seems the only reason why certain things about PT seems some what out of date for lack of a better term. On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:29 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Of course, you realize, again, it's a file based process so no plug-ins will be part of the bounce. It's purely an export of the region. Hope you still think it's a viable option for certain things. Best, Slau On Oct 23, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Lordy lordy, can't believe I didn't know that. Really must RTFM one of these days, perhaps after I've finished adding up the total number of hours I've aged waiting for bounces to finish. Scott On 10/24/11, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, exporting means it's a file process while bouncing means it's a real-time process. HTH, Slau On Oct 23, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Slau, If you use the Export Regions command, is there an option to export quicker than realtime? Not gonna be in front of PT for a few weeks, but I had to ask in case I forgot to check when I get home. Bouncing in realtime drives me nuts, never considered that there'd be another way to do it other than using the Bounce To Disk dialog. Cheers Scott On 10/23/11, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: First, consolidate each track's regions into one new continuous region by using the Option-Shift-3 command on the numbers row. Do this for each track for which you wish to export complete files. Select all the tracks you wish to export, press Command-a to select the entire session and use the Export Regions command which is Command-Shift-k. There you'll have a dialog with various options. the rest should be easy. HTH, Slau
Working with Busses.
Hello, Working on a project and i am stuck here. So this project has about 10 tracks with a few sends. There is a Drums and Vocal buss that all the drum and vocal tracks are pointed to from the output menu of their respective tracks. A submit buss that all the tracks outputs point to, and a chorus and delay bus that different tracks are sent to. Now whenever i try to add a new bus as a send on one track, its putting it on every track in the project. Why is this? What or where did i go wrong? There doesn't seem to be any active groups for me to disable that all my tracks became a part of somehow, so any other suggestions? Thanks
Re: The instrument pac from Avid accessible?
The problem is since i already own a Line 6 POD, a nice low wattage tube amp and an MBox Pro interface, I can't really justify the cost of an upgrade to the free version of 11 not knowing that its fully accessible and knowing that it will actually sound that much better than my pod. I'll play with the free version of 11 and see how i like it. if it blows me away that much that i am willing to get rid of the POD then we'll see.But if i knew the full version of 11 was accessible it would be work it to ditch my cloogy, but working partially accessible POD set up. On Oct 22, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: I've only used Eleven Free briefly, but from what I saw it seemed simple in terms of accessibility and pretty sweet in terms of actual sound. Your basic amp controls were all visible to VO in the plugin window, latching buttons were visible as well (if a little clunky to change the state of), same with effects. Saving and recalling presets was done using the standard controls. There's a lot more in the full version, can't say whether we'd be able to use everything, but I'd love to know anything else you find out about it. Hth Scott On 10/22/11, Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Being mainly a guitar player, i was actually wondering if 11 was accessible. Is there a freee version that came with PT? I don't rememver seeing it on my plug ins list or on my dvd, but i'll look again if there is supposed to be one included. On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: From what I've heard from Vinny and Brian Smart, the presets in the instruments like 11, the rhodes, etc are Pro Tools presets, so they are indeed accessible in the plugin window. However, Not sure about strike and transfuser. Regarding Structure, the presets are in a patch browser, so they are not accessible via the window. However, Chuck or Jason has created Pro Tools presets for the entire structure library. I don't have this instrument pack as of yet, so I can't comment on this personally. I'm only going by what folks have mentioned. Regarding 10, I'm not sure about the upgrade. I'm sure that they didn't remove any accessibility features, but whether they've added anything, I highly doubt. I'm not really all that excited about the feature set that I saw, but maybe there's something in there that will totally make it worth the upgrade. Hope that helps. Kevin
working with full sized keyboardd
Ok so i have a full size apple wired keyboard that i use with PT. However the Funtion keys across the very top row is programmed for all the OSX shortcuts like screen brightness, volume etc. So say when i do VO+F3 nothing happens. On my laptop i would press VO+FN+F3 to resolve this. How do u do the same on a full sized keyboard that doesn't have a FN key?
Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing
Also depending on your needs and how much processing power you need, the macbook air would be great for live environments, lightweight, sad drives so no hard drive to skip from vibrations on stage, and long battery life, especially when you turn down the screen brightness all the way, and turn off wi-fi and bluetooth among other things. On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Thanks or all that...excelent food for thought. Haha, of course I forgot the most obvious advantage of a laptop in the live environment, the baterry of course! -- From: Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:38 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing I owned the current Gen server model of the mini for a couple weeks like i said before, and the sluggish without a monitor issue didn't seem to exist with that one. I also remember hearing from a number of sources before purchasing mine that that issue was no longer with current gen mini's. The Mini is definitely portable enough to take to a gig and etc. The downside to a mini is no battery power option. Also remember if you guys plan to extend your apple care protection plan past the 1 year that comes with your mac then be care flu about upgrading after market. If apple didn't upgrade the internals or you didn't get the ram from apple and install it yourself, they won't even look at your machine when you try to get it serviced. So if you put after market parts in there, put the originals back in before taking it back in for servicing or before the tech shows up at your house.The only negative i have heard about swapping out your optical drive for another internal Hard drive on the laptops is it adds more weight to the machine. No complains about it overheating or anything like that. On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:19 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I am just saying what I read that the 7200 drives, at least in my Mac Book, weren't recommended. That seemed strange to me as well so I tried it and it works fine. I can't speak to the two drive issue. That one, it seems to me, could definitely cause a heating issue. The HD runs much warmer than an optical drive and for a longer amount of time. Remember there are no fans for cooling in the Mac Book Pro. Now, if I could find a mixing surface for 8 channels that was as light as my Mac Book Pro then I'd really have something. LOL Best, J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:17 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing Just did a bit of reading on Kevin's 3rd party DIY upgrade idea. I always thought there's something special to apple memory but turns out they use normal memory mostly samsung and hynix not even kingston and I'm a huge fan of kingston ram. As for the hard drives looks like they mostly use seagate which is fine with me I only use seagate drives they are the most relyable in my experience. I don't know how apple can say a MBP with max ram and 7200 RPM hard drive can cause heat problems because you can order it from them that way so obviously they did some testing and why give people that option if it causes problems. Oh and on the MBP I've seen posts in a few places that new MBP's will be released in the next week or two, only upgrades is the processors they will have sandybridge I5 processors can't remember if there's I7's as well. Think you'll get a 2.2 GHz a 2.6 GHz and a 2.8 but I could be wrong can't exactly remember, also know they said it will stay the same price as the current ones. Brian Casey wrote: That seems a bit crazy! I'm no computing genious but I would have thought that wouldn't make a difference. Especially if it's a server. I wonder what the smallist/cheepist screen on the market is, something the size of an iPhone or something could e magical solution. Maybe the Macbook is just the best option though, but having two hard drives would be great. Any comments on portability? Thanks, Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 6:13 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing The catch with the minis is that you need a screen for it to run at optimum levels. Oddly enough, at least with my mini, which is mid 2009, without a monitor, the system is very sluggish. Many other folks have noticed this as well. However, I'm not sure if this is also true for the newest minis or the mini server.
Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing
Though if one can afford it i would recommend going with the 256GB SSD Boot drive and the second 750 spinning drive option. One of the few things i miss about owning that machine On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote: Hello: The MAC MINI Server has two 500 GB 7200 rpm drives. Cheers. - Original Message - From: Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing Kevin, I like your ideas on the third party options etc, seems practical and something I'd look into. The Mini server particularly sounds interesting. Other than saving on the screen, what differences would there be between the MBP and the mini? I heard the mini and the imacs have just laptop components in them anyway, but would they have better cooling, would they be less well equiped for portable use etc? Basically, I'm thinking about buying a laptop for using live for various stuff, but if it was as portable, why not grab a mini server too, if nothing else, it would be easier to disguise on stage without a screen etc. Any thoughts? I'd just like to get the best bang for buck for something portable and it makes sense just to buy apple even if I dual boot with windows for the moment. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:15 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing I think either the Mini server or the mbp are great choices. On both counts though, I wouldn't order any features from the apple site. Build the machine to order and put the fastest proc in that you can, but strip away everything else. Then, get some kingston or crucial ram, and either a 7200 rpm hybrid drive, or an SSD. You can get these items third party, which will make it much cheaper. The bottom of the macbook pro comes off easily and you can get to the drives and ram. Not sure about the Mini, but I've been told it's easy to crack into, especially the new one. This is just my 2 cents, so definitely compare what you're reading here. Good luck, and I hope you can use this advice here to come up with a machine that fits your needs and your budget. Kevin __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6566 (20111022) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6566 (20111022) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing
Yes did try it with safari, and no issues there. Also, i have always heard from others and apple themselves that non apple apple after market parts voids apple care, but maybe now they re starting to get lapse on it. From what i hear though, the new 2011 iMacs will not take a non apple HD and run optimally. They are doing some voodoo to keep you from putting in after market HD's. That being said, the thunderbolt ports do pretty much solve that problem. On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: I owned the current Gen server model of the mini for a couple weeks like i said before, and the sluggish without a monitor issue didn't seem to exist with that one. You did run safari? That's where you really notice the issue. I have a 2009 mini and I can confirm that this is an issue on snow leopard. I haven't tried it on lion. Maybe it's a lion fix? I also remember hearing from a number of sources before purchasing mine that that issue was no longer with current gen mini's. The Mini is definitely portable enough to take to a gig and etc. The downside to a mini is no battery power option. Also remember if you guys plan to extend your apple care protection plan past the 1 year that comes with your mac then be care flu about upgrading after market. If apple didn't upgrade the internals or you didn't get the ram from apple and install it yourself, they won't even look at your machine when you try to get it serviced. So if you put after market parts in there, put the originals back in before taking it back in for servicing or before the tech shows up at your house.The only negative i have heard about swapping out your optical drive for another internal Hard drive on the laptops is it adds more weight to the machine. No complains about it overheating or anything like that. This is not what I was told by a Apple repair person. In fact I had the optical drive die in my 2010 mbp two months after I bought it. I had changed out the 2 gb sticks for 4 gb ones and had put an SSD in where there once was a 5400 rpm drive. They opened the machine put a new drive in and had me out of the store in 20 minutes with only having to sign once that the service had been performed. THese same people assured me when I purchased the mbp that I would be able to put the components in the unit that I wanted and unless one of those components was at fault they would fix the problem. HTH --FC On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:19 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I am just saying what I read that the 7200 drives, at least in my Mac Book, weren't recommended. That seemed strange to me as well so I tried it and it works fine. I can't speak to the two drive issue. That one, it seems to me, could definitely cause a heating issue. The HD runs much warmer than an optical drive and for a longer amount of time. Remember there are no fans for cooling in the Mac Book Pro. Now, if I could find a mixing surface for 8 channels that was as light as my Mac Book Pro then I'd really have something. LOL Best, J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:17 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing Just did a bit of reading on Kevin's 3rd party DIY upgrade idea. I always thought there's something special to apple memory but turns out they use normal memory mostly samsung and hynix not even kingston and I'm a huge fan of kingston ram. As for the hard drives looks like they mostly use seagate which is fine with me I only use seagate drives they are the most relyable in my experience. I don't know how apple can say a MBP with max ram and 7200 RPM hard drive can cause heat problems because you can order it from them that way so obviously they did some testing and why give people that option if it causes problems. Oh and on the MBP I've seen posts in a few places that new MBP's will be released in the next week or two, only upgrades is the processors they will have sandybridge I5 processors can't remember if there's I7's as well. Think you'll get a 2.2 GHz a 2.6 GHz and a 2.8 but I could be wrong can't exactly remember, also know they said it will stay the same price as the current ones. Brian Casey wrote: That seems a bit crazy! I'm no computing genious but I would have thought that wouldn't make a difference. Especially if it's a server. I wonder what the smallist/cheepist screen on the market is, something the size of an iPhone or something could e magical solution. Maybe the Macbook is just the best option though, but having two hard drives would be great. Any comments on portability? Thanks, Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday
Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing
When mixing you may want to raise your sample buffer size for playback. It doesn't need to be as low as it does for recording due to the lack of need for input monitoring and etc. This would probably keep you from having to freeze some tracks. The speaker on the mac mini is there more as a failsafe than it is intended to be used as a main speaker, as they don't get very loud. It would be hard to hear VO on that speaker while playing back a session, especially if the mini isn't on the desk next u. On Oct 22, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Thanks for that Frank...yeah, I guess really, I don't completely need it at the moment, and can probably afford to wait another six months or a year for a new mac, and who knows what ground manufacturers will have made up with SSD's and thunderbolt by then. As it stands, I'm still ultimately happy if not regretting a little my recent purchase of a pc with two internal 7200 speed drives, its 2.8 quad i5 and 4 gigs of ram. Its just rather God dam big and noisie. I did push it to its limit with a mix on sonar during the week, but that was hitting 70 tracks, with 3 or 4 soft-synths, at least 3 plugins on each tracks, 12 buses with plenty processing and lots of long delays and reverbs running in realtime. The cpu meter still only said 60 percent but the pops and clicks in the play back said otherwise, proved by the fact that freezing some of the tracks settled it right back down. Sorry, a complete digression, basically, I think for those of us who don't need to waste any money on a screen and like portability, the mac mini server is a fantastic option. It even has a built in speaker from what I saw? Great for voice over. Brian. -- From: Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:55 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing Hi Brian Yeah SSD's are where it's at. I would say these mbp's can handle an SSD and a 7200 rpm drive with out trouble. I haven't put the second disk in mine yet. I am running a SSD and you can edit and mix small projects just on the SSD with out a second drive. Bigger track counts you would probably want a second drive. I would consider two SSD's instead of a 7200 rpm drive. Now that the 2011 macs all have thunderbolt you can get some really fast drives. FW800 is actually quite slow in todays standards. There are only a few thunderbolt drive enclosures thus far but there will be more. This is what really makes the mac mini an option now. The quad core and a thunderbolt port allow you to run pro tools hd with a thunderbolt expansion chasis. HTH --FC On Oct 22, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Could you put an SSD as one of the drives...I assume they don't have heating issues as they don't have moving parts...although, again, I don't know much abou these things so I could be completely wrong there! Brian. -- From: Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:23 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing Wow sounds cool but does the MBP motherboard do fine with the 2 hard drives? Kevin Reeves wrote: You can still have 2 hard drives with the macbook. OWC sells this device called the Data doubler. It's a mounting bracket that fits in the Macbook Pro in place of the optical drive. This lets you add a second hd in the machine. As far as the optical drive you just pulled out, you can then mount it into an external drive enclosure designed for laptop dvd drives. Then, you've got your 2 hd's and your dvd drive as an external when you need it.
Re: Ideal mac for recording/editing/mixing
Yes you are, we should catch up sometime off list. It's probably the Digi 002 drivers never got upgraded for lion. I am guessing they only upgraded the 003 and all the latest gen MBox and HD Hardware drivers to lion. On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hey, I should be flattered I am remembered lol. It seems there is more to the digi working with lion than just the firewire factor. I called Tekserve down there, about it and they tell me I would have to downgrade, not sure why yet, I have asked and will share. Karen On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Monkey Pusher wrote: I think you just confirmed my suspicions lol. If memory serves correct, the 002 is a firewire 400 device and the newer macs all have firewire 800 ports only. Yes a simple adapter or 800 to 400 cable is all thats needed to resolve this as my MBox Pro is the same way. Personally i am loving all the VO improovements in lion that you would have to drag me kicking and screaming back to snow leopard. That being said, if there is a particular application that you need and you know it doesn't work with lion yet, then avoid it. The only issue i really have with PT 9.05 in lion now is space not always triggering playback, but i do wonder if their is some optimization i still need to make that i havent figured out yet. On 10/21/11, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: because we have crossed paths in an totally different context then this one grin. I was given to understand one might not be able to use a digi 002 without an adapter on the newer machines, with some question about Lion? I am not particularly wanting to go with it unless I absolutely have too, complaints from other vo users regarding different programs. Karen On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Monkey Pusher wrote: Karen, why does your name sound so fimiliar, like we crossed path's before. Anyways, i think any of the current macbook pros will be fine for your needs. But if you have a sales guy over at sweetwater i'd check with them as well. Though a new MBP probably means upgrading to PT 10 for lion support. On 10/21/11, Karen Lewellen klewel...@shellworld.net wrote: Actually, a variation on this question? While avid still provides a recommended gear list for the pre 9 ish edition of pro tools, it is a bit dated. In fact I can get an update from my source over there, if I get no answer here. Still some of the macbooks they recommended have been discontinued anyway. So if you are 1, using a digi unit for mixing a 002 for example, and 2, want to use one of the vo friendly editions of pt, what is the best macbook to buy? I would really rather have a portable one than another desktop so I can use it for more than just pro tools. i always get an external hard drive for my work, and understand I may need some sort of firewire adapter, but sweetwater sells those, so I am not worried. Ideas? Karen On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Monkey Pusher wrote: So long as you don't get the apple branded optical drive and optical drive would be less than and external Hard drive. Also the mini's are quite portable as i briefly owned one of the server models mentioned here. Only downside is no option for battery power, that being said there is a 3rd party battery prick you can purchase for portable juice. To answer your initial questions. In all honesty i think even the 13 MBP would be sufficient for the work you do. Yeah you may hit a wall at some point with number of plug ins or something like that. but you should be find on the track count side and so long as you don't plan on maxing out the number of plug ins and sends on every channel. I would probably go for the 8GB of ram in either the Mini or the MBP since those machines aren't as easy to open up and add ram to later on.I started out using pro tools on a MBP with a core II Duo and it handled around 10 tracks and some plug ins with no issues here. On 10/21/11, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I looked at the mini server but the only problem I have with the new one is it has no obtical drive. Sure you get a extra hard drive but I would still prefer 1 hard drive and a obtical drive. If you run out of space you can always get a external hard drive but as it is now, you basically have to get a external obtical drive, yes I know there's that thing of slaving another mac or pc's drive but that's just a shlep.
Re: 2 questions
Ok the second one, Go to set up menu, then playback engine. In that dialogue box there should be a popup menu of all the audio devices PT sees. select the one u want it to use there, and click ok. On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya guys, 2 questions. Firstly, I can copy and cut audio round in a track with the numpad slash key (or whatever it is), but what if I want to paste that audio to a different track? it doesn't seem to work like that. Second one is, how do I change the audio device that PT uses? I know there's all that stuff in the setup menu, but there doesn't seem to be anything useful in I/O, so just wondering if it's either inaccessible, or (more likely), I'm being characteristically stupid, and can't find it hehe. Cheers in advance. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2
Re: 2 questions
As for the first question, I have some issues with this myself, and think i am missing something there as well. As I understand it, You select the track u want to copy and paste from, use numpad / to set the start time, (press slash once), end time, or(press slash twice), total length u want to select, (press slash 3 times), hen copy or cut, then select the track u want to paste it on, and do the paste command. Do i need to change my cursor to the selection tool or something, how does one do that? On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya guys, 2 questions. Firstly, I can copy and cut audio round in a track with the numpad slash key (or whatever it is), but what if I want to paste that audio to a different track? it doesn't seem to work like that. Second one is, how do I change the audio device that PT uses? I know there's all that stuff in the setup menu, but there doesn't seem to be anything useful in I/O, so just wondering if it's either inaccessible, or (more likely), I'm being characteristically stupid, and can't find it hehe. Cheers in advance. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2
Re: Master Tracks?
I have read in a few places where they don't always recommend putting a master compressor on the master track, since the master track unlike all the other tracks in pro tools has the fader before the inserts and sends, which means if u put a compressor on the master track, set it up how u like, then later adjust the master fader, it will pretty much cause you to have to go redo the compressor settings. A work around is to create a sub mimix aux track and send all your tracks to that, add all your master effects on that track and output that to the master track. On Oct 16, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Christopher, Master tracks control the output level being fed to an output bus. Most often, a master track will control the main left and right outputs for a stereo mix. It's not necessary to necessarily use a master track for a regular mix but it certainly does help to create a master track to see the combined level of all of the individual tracks on the master track's level meter. Further, when putting bus compression over an entire mix, it would normally be done with a compressor plug-in on a master track. Finally, master tracks are used when creating stems for surround mixes, alternate mixes, instrumental versions, etc. Again, most people just use a single master track for overall mix purposes. HTH, Slau
Re: Bad quality: I just don't get it!
The M=-Audio Fast track, and the Tascam US-122mkII are the to that were recommended I like the tascam stuff for a few reasons, the main one being that after installing the drivers you don't have to worry about loading its control panel software, it can be pretty much controlled in your recording software. As for getting fimiliar with things i buy online. Most if not everything has a PDF manual available online. I send it to a sighted friend and have them use it to go over the layout of the unit with me Evey manual has in it a picture of the item with a clear label and description pointing to each kfnob, button and jack on it. Another trick, if you have an iPhone, Android, or other modern smart phone with a good camera, call a friend on skype from the phone and hold the phone up to the device and have them tell you what each thing is. You could most likely get away with this using the the camera on the macbook as well, but i suggested a phone first since it's a little easier to hold over what you may want them to see.Back to the interfaces, both the mentioned interfaces gets u two ins, two outs and a midi in and out and headphones jack. The knobs are basically the gain for the individual inputs, the master and headphone volume, and on the tascam a knob to set the mix between whats coming in through the inputs, and whats coming back from the recording software. Simple basic and great to learn on to help u get decent recordings. On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: My only concern with having a board shipped to me is now I got the board, but I don't know what the different jacks on it are, what the buttons are, what the different dials are, etc. I need someone who can go through the board with me, one on one, and as I am moving my hand around the board, can identify for me what the things are I'm feeling. Not just based on opinion of, it's a good easy board/surface, but also based on the problems I am having, which model from M-Audio or Tascam specifically would you advise I ask for? Remember, I ony have about $320 to work with provided Sam Ash reverses all the funds totally back to my card... which... they better! Chris. - Original Message - From: Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Bad quality: I just don't get it! I gotta agree with kevin here, Sonar and Pro tools are both capable of makeing commercials releases and come with great stock plug ins. Yeah they aren't the greatest in the world, but i have heard pro quality stuff done with just the built in plug ins in both. The trick is like its already been said learn the hell ou out of them, put the time in and get better at everything from how u record the source material to what u do with it once its in PT and recorded. Start by getting the best possible sound u can into pro tools, don't think you can fix it later as that will only lead to way more work, and chances are dissappointment. As they say, garbage in, garbage out, and you can't polish a turd. Oh and i was considering the Allen heath board you got at one point as well. Here are the reasons i didn't go with it. A) the USB out on that board only records the main s stereo outs, you can not send all 10 or however channels on that board to individual channels in Pro Tools. B) it does not work as a control surface. I highly recommend you return that board and get one of the simpler interfaces we recommended. It's simple and will help you learn the basics of getting a source from a mic into protools and sounding good. If sam ash wont sell you w one take your business elsewhere, I know for a fact that sam ash is both a m-audio and tascam dealer. Like i suggested, give www.sweetwater.com a call and they can help u select the right piece of gear, and help uyou if you have any issues setting it up after. On 10/6/11, Gary Readfern-Gray readfern.g...@googlemail.com wrote: Hey Chris, It's difficult to advise you not having your gear and I'm somewhere along the same journey as you but +30db of gain on your mike?? that sounds like it would clip a whole bunch to me, so turn that down and try again. Just a thought. G On 10/6/11, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: If you want a project to play round with for a while, try this. It's one I recorded on my gear at home, using a DI'd faith guitar, a Sure (however you spell it) SM58, all going through a M-Audio Mobile Pree, which cost me £150, into my Macbook Pro 13, using a Euphonix MC2 mixing desk to mix with, and a pair of M-Audio something or others monitors. I got it all from DV247.com, not sure if they apply to America as well, but I'm in England, so hey! :P Anyways, here's th link, and I'm afraid it falls under the catigory of almost dog crap, and my voice is quite heavily autotuned, because I had a bitch of a
Re: Huge huge huge! improvement! So! Close!
Something to consider, and i don't know how well this will work, but if you mac has an SD card slot on it, Class 10 16GB and 32GB SD cards are fairly inexpensive now, especially if you know where to shop for them. So yeah you may be only to kep a project or two on them but move the project folder to it before launching it in PT. If my math is correct, class 10 drives should be about as fast as a USB External HD. Also 250GB external USB HD's are pretty inexpensive these days as well. Not a tone of storage but enough to keep a few projects going as well. And yeah, I'd definately consider upping the ram in that machine if and when possible. Not to discourage you from using ProTools, but if your PC has more RAM you may find certask a bit smoother with SONAR. Sonar really isn't inferior, or ProTools isn't necessarily better. They are Both DAWS capable of turning Pro Comericial Recordings; there are just different ways of getting to the same end once you master the tools and skills involved with knowing either. On Oct 2, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey man. Congrats on getting your interface to work. Here are my thoughts on the whole monitoring deal. I don't advise turning off the Pro Tools monitoring. Actually, I think it's better to shut off the multimix's monitoring instead. Here's why. The fact that you can hear your signal going into Pro TOols is a good indicator that you are actually recording. This was literally a 4 thousand dollar mistake one time when I worked with an engineer who was using direct monitoring on his interface. Stuff was coming through, but not routed properly through Pro TOols. Had direct monitoring been turned off, we would have caught it. Trust me on this one. 0 latency is no tradeoff for knowing exactly what kind of signal your getting into Pro Tools. I think there's a knob on the interface to turn direct monitoring off so you only hear what's coming through the USB input. That's what you want. Regarding bouncing. Several factors could be at play here. 1. You're bouncing on a 54 hundred rpm drive. These drives are not really fast enough for recording. Trust me on this one too. I can't afford a faster drive, so I have to limp along. One thing I would try is to change the record allocation time for your drive. Right now, Pro TOols is set to record until the drive runs out. If you were to allocate only say 30 minutes to it, Pro TOols is now only allocating a tiny bit of drive space, allowing things to run much smoother. You can find that on the operations tab of the preferences. I'm not in front of my rig, so can't remember what it's called, but it's set to open ended allocation right now. It needs to be set to the other selection and a time frame given to it. Set it to 30 minutes or so. Also, how many tracks have you recorded before running a bounce? If you have a great deal of tracks, it's a good idea to consolidate them: taking all the punches and converting it to 1 long file per track. This actually helps with minimizing some of the load on the drive because it's only streaming one long file as opposed to playing back small clips. Also, if you have an external drive, maybe you could try bouncing to that. Anything to minimize the load on your internal will help. Any variable you can improve with your system will help. Trying maxing out the ram. 2 gb is really a tad low for Pro Tools. Ram is like 40 bucks anymore for 8 gigs, but I think your MacBook will max out at 4, which would be very helpful. Hope this helps. Kevin
Re: Huge huge huge! improvement! So! Close!
Create a folder on that external drive and point all your Pro Tools Projects to that folder and have pro tools work off that drive instead. On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: We'll give that a shot ande see. How do I go about consolidating all my tracks into one thing as you said? Actually there were only two tracks, one karaoke track, and one vocal track, n o fancy things just bvocal, and the auto-tune RTAS wrapper, and maybe a stereo reverb insert, so basically, two inserts. I also find that if I manage to do things in one take, yeah, flippen, right, shoot me witha gun, don't you, I'm fine, but as soon as I stop recording, and then command+Z to undo the track, I get major monitor ladency until closing and restarting PT. Very! aggervating! Finally Kevin, you have to understand something about this multi-mix interface. It's only a $75 interface. it's very cheap, and extremely, and I make no exageration when I say extremely basic setup. There are no buttons for turning off the internal monitor. All I could do is turn the channel down, but of chorus, if I do that, then it won't get recorded. Yes, I was trying to bounce to my internal hard drive. Yes, I do have an external 1TB CGate Go-Plex USB drive. I could try that. I did change the setting to 30 minutes as you suggested. We'll see what happens. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:33 AM Subject: Re: Huge huge huge! improvement! So! Close! Hey man. Congrats on getting your interface to work. Here are my thoughts on the whole monitoring deal. I don't advise turning off the Pro Tools monitoring. Actually, I think it's better to shut off the multimix's monitoring instead. Here's why. The fact that you can hear your signal going into Pro TOols is a good indicator that you are actually recording. This was literally a 4 thousand dollar mistake one time when I worked with an engineer who was using direct monitoring on his interface. Stuff was coming through, but not routed properly through Pro TOols. Had direct monitoring been turned off, we would have caught it. Trust me on this one. 0 latency is no tradeoff for knowing exactly what kind of signal your getting into Pro Tools. I think there's a knob on the interface to turn direct monitoring off so you only hear what's coming through the USB input. That's what you want. Regarding bouncing. Several factors could be at play here. 1. You're bouncing on a 54 hundred rpm drive. These drives are not really fast enough for recording. Trust me on this one too. I can't afford a faster drive, so I have to limp along. One thing I would try is to change the record allocation time for your drive. Right now, Pro TOols is set to record until the drive runs out. If you were to allocate only say 30 minutes to it, Pro TOols is now only allocating a tiny bit of drive space, allowing things to run much smoother. You can find that on the operations tab of the preferences. I'm not in front of my rig, so can't remember what it's called, but it's set to open ended allocation right now. It needs to be set to the other selection and a time frame given to it. Set it to 30 minutes or so. Also, how many tracks have you recorded before running a bounce? If you have a great deal of tracks, it's a good idea to consolidate them: taking all the punches and converting it to 1 long file per track. This actually helps with minimizing some of the load on the drive because it's only streaming one long file as opposed to playing back small clips. Also, if you have an external drive, maybe you could try bouncing to that. Anything to minimize the load on your internal will help. Any variable you can improve with your system will help. Trying maxing out the ram. 2 gb is really a tad low for Pro Tools. Ram is like 40 bucks anymore for 8 gigs, but I think your MacBook will max out at 4, which would be very helpful. Hope this helps. Kevin=
Re: Erm, boss? We gotta little pwobwem, LOL!
ok two things. If the vocals aren't loud enough, instead of turning up the vocals bring down the level on the karaoke track. Secondly Stop trying to boost the highs, and cut the mud instead. Rule #1 of using EQ cut before you boost. First off, you probably want to run the vocals through a high pass filter, cutting off all frequencies around 150HZ to 200HZ, Experiment and fine tune to taste. Secendly then try cutting some where in the miss as well to help bring out the highs more. If you do ending up boosting the highs, a small amount goes a long way after following steps 1 and 2. Also you may have a decent studio grade condenser, but the weak link in your chain right now could be the multi mix and it's inexpensive per's. But chances are this is probably the least of your worries for now and the EQ tips I mentioned above should get you started. Add the Air 1 band or 3 band eq that comes with PT on the track and start experimenting. ASlso in the reverb blog in, see if it has a high pass and low pass setting, you may want to set the high pass to the same setting as the eq's high pass, and set the low pass somewhere around 5khz. Hope this helps at least get you started. On Oct 2, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, first of all, download this mp3 I made in PT. I had to use Audio Hijack Pro to get it mixed to an mp3 till I find out what the heck my bouncing issue is, but anyway, again, here, get this first of all: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7fm4u2 OK, yeah, yeah, don't chastise my vocals, I know they're r'real! bad. Probably God aweful! I didn't say I was totally warmed up. Anyway, notice the music track is very natural sounding. All I did's run some reverb on my two vocal tracks. the one doing the lead vocal, and the one doing the high shoo wop part, then also added auto-tune, and a little more reverb on the karaoke track, as frankly, in my book, it was way too dry originally. Maybe I over-did it, but anyway, the issue is if I turn the high up on my multi mix interface, I start clipping. If i turn the hi up and then either my fader or my trim down on the board, I'm too soft. If I back the hi off on the board as I did, as you can hear my vocals sound muffled. They dont/' have that clean brightness that I need. Yes, this is a studio grade condenser phantom-powered mike. So I'm not running cheap stuff here. I mean it isn't toppa the line, by any means, but it's not low end either at all. I have the entire folder will all the session files. Would it help more if I send space you all that so you can actually see the project, and all my levels etc? I just wonder how we can get the vocal a bit more bright and less muffled seeing the above issues. I'm kind a darned if I do, darned if I don't, catch 22. Don't just fix it for me, I mean, you can, if you have the time and want to, but I need to learn how to do this, so don't tell me my vocals are off, I know that. More, what should I do to make this mix better? Be nice, be nice! LOL! I'm a beh bee, I'm still learning. LOL! Chris.
Re: Erm, boss? We gotta little pwobwem, LOL!
Ok, lets back up and start with one thing at a time. On your vocal track. Insert the AIR 1 band EQ VO right to the filter type and change it to high pass. then find the frequency parameter and interact with it. Then play back the project while you adjust it down to somewhere around 200hz or 150 hz. Adjust to taste. You are basically listening for when there is enough low end there so the vocals sound thick, but not so much that it brings the mud back in. In simplest of terms, the high pass filter (also known as a lo cut filter) is cutting off all the lows below a certain frequency and allowing only the highs to pass through, hence the name. Bottome line, cut before you boost. If you want more highs and clarity, trying cutting the lows first. Hope this was more helpful this time. On Oct 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: ouch! That went way over my poor little head. In the longrun, I wanan learn to do all that, but for now, what would you say you'd focus on learning before anything further. Let's take this one step at a time. All these things're overwhelming me. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stephen Martin monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Erm, boss? We gotta little pwobwem, LOL! ok two things. If the vocals aren't loud enough, instead of turning up the vocals bring down the level on the karaoke track. Secondly Stop trying to boost the highs, and cut the mud instead. Rule #1 of using EQ cut before you boost. First off, you probably want to run the vocals through a high pass filter, cutting off all frequencies around 150HZ to 200HZ, Experiment and fine tune to taste. Secendly then try cutting some where in the miss as well to help bring out the highs more. If you do ending up boosting the highs, a small amount goes a long way after following steps 1 and 2. Also you may have a decent studio grade condenser, but the weak link in your chain right now could be the multi mix and it's inexpensive per's. But chances are this is probably the least of your worries for now and the EQ tips I mentioned above should get you started. Add the Air 1 band or 3 band eq that comes with PT on the track and start experimenting. ASlso in the reverb blog in, see if it has a high pass and low pass setting, you may want to set the high pass to the same setting as the eq's high pass, and set the low pass somewhere around 5khz. Hope this helps at least get you started. On Oct 2, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK, first of all, download this mp3 I made in PT. I had to use Audio Hijack Pro to get it mixed to an mp3 till I find out what the heck my bouncing issue is, but anyway, again, here, get this first of all: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7fm4u2 OK, yeah, yeah, don't chastise my vocals, I know they're r'real! bad. Probably God aweful! I didn't say I was totally warmed up. Anyway, notice the music track is very natural sounding. All I did's run some reverb on my two vocal tracks. the one doing the lead vocal, and the one doing the high shoo wop part, then also added auto-tune, and a little more reverb on the karaoke track, as frankly, in my book, it was way too dry originally. Maybe I over-did it, but anyway, the issue is if I turn the high up on my multi mix interface, I start clipping. If i turn the hi up and then either my fader or my trim down on the board, I'm too soft. If I back the hi off on the board as I did, as you can hear my vocals sound muffled. They dont/' have that clean brightness that I need. Yes, this is a studio grade condenser phantom-powered mike. So I'm not running cheap stuff here. I mean it isn't toppa the line, by any means, but it's not low end either at all. I have the entire folder will all the session files. Would it help more if I send space you all that so you can actually see the project, and all my levels etc? I just wonder how we can get the vocal a bit more bright and less muffled seeing the above issues. I'm kind a darned if I do, darned if I don't, catch 22. Don't just fix it for me, I mean, you can, if you have the time and want to, but I need to learn how to do this, so don't tell me my vocals are off, I know that. More, what should I do to make this mix better? Be nice, be nice! LOL! I'm a beh bee, I'm still learning. LOL! Chris.
Re: Metronom with no keypad, am I S O L, Basically?
Another option is to use something like quickeys to map the numpad shortcuts to the number row on a non extended keyboard. Someone did this and shared the quick keys script with me. i haven't tried it yet but i know its not all the number roow shortcuts, If there is interest, i'll see if i can find it and share it here. Though an extended keyboard is probably the easiest way to go. If you don't care about the 2 USB ports on the keyboard, decent uSB keyboards can be had for under $10 on amazon. Though given that they are PC keyboards you may have to remap a few keys to get it to work the rich way on amac. Personally i just ended up getting the full sized apple keyboard in the end. On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: OK that would be wonderful. Chris. - Original Message - From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Metronom with no keypad, am I S O L, Basically? Hey man. Just go grab yourself the wired usb keyboard. You're gonna need it for editing, transport, selecting, dropping markers, navigating markers, selecting between markers, nudging, etc. It's got 2 USB ports on it for your ilok and such. I'll find you guys the best deal on it and post it to the list. Hope that helps. Kevin So, I have a macbook. NO extra keyboard, none I can unplug, no bluetooth with num pad, etc. All I got's the macbook keyboard with no num pad. Is there a way, thus, being I can't do num pad 7, that I can turn on and off the metronom? I desperetly need it for this project as there is a cold silence for one measure followed by me coming back in right instantly with the backup, so if I time this wrong, it's gonna sound god aweful! Chris.
Re: Mbox pro
The M-Box Pro and all the other Avid interfaces now include standard apple core audio drivers as well as Windows WDM and ASIO drivers for windows, so you can use them as audio interface for any other DAW, like Garage Band, Sonar, Reaper, Cubase etc, etc. You can also get it as just the hardware or as a package deal bundled with PT. I think if On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:00 AM, Chiapello Diego wrote: Hi all, about MBox-Pro. A little question: do you need to use PT or you can use any other software? An example: Garage Band can use the Mbox-Pro? And, going on, is PT included in the Box or you must purchase it separately? Thank you for the answers. Have a nice day! you don't have PT it's only $250 or so more to get the PT bundle which isnt a bad price for an interface and Pro Tools considering PT cost $600 on its own. Diego. 2011/9/28, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com: I powered it, and I'm not entirely sure how to select it in PT to be honest, I'll have a look now though. Cheers for all the help, and sorry again for all the stupid questions! :-) Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2 On 28 Sep 2011, at 00:57, Stephen Martin wrote: there are 3 types of firewire plugs. 4 pin or the mini ones, 6 pin and 9 pin the big one that you described the adapter for. 4 and 6 pins are original firewire or firewire 400, 4 pin firewire can't carry power so anything that uses it has to have a seperate powersupply since it can't be powered from the firewire port. 9 pin is firewire 800. I assume you installed the drivers before connecting it? did u use the latest version from Avid's website instead of the ones that came in the box on the cd? did u select it in PT? On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Chris Norman wrote: I'm using the cable that came with it, and a little converter they included, to make it into the square shaped plug with the ditch in the top, whichever that is, I'm never sure. Also included, was a firewire cable with a smaller plug on the end, kind of like Miny USB, but that doesn't fit, not sure what they're called, but either way, the interface doesn't work. I have a friend coming round tomorrow to try and dig into the driver, and fix the bloody thing for me. Any ideas as to why it's not working? Cheers, On 27/09/2011, Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Firewire 800 should be backwards compatible. The macs all now have firewire 800 ports and a firewire 800 to 400 cable does the trick. or a fire wire 400 cable with a 400 to 800 adapter works as well.The MBox has 2 firewire 400 ports. Your model of mac will determine how many and which port it has. On 9/27/11, J. R. Westmoreland j...@jrw.org wrote: Also be aware of the fact that you may have a firewire 400 and a firewire 800 prot. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Monkey Pusher Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:55 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mbox pro Firewire devices usually have two firewire ports. Use one to connect the unit to the computer, the other is so u can connect another firewire device the computer that passes through the MBOX. That way if you computer only has one firewire port like most moderm macs, you can still use more than one firewire devices. It doesn't matter which is used for which, just connect any of the two to the computer and any other firewire devices to the other port, and so on and so on down the line. On 9/27/11, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Awesome, cheers. And sorry, but I can't find anything on the net about this, why are there two firewire ports on the unit? Cheers, and sorry for all the stupid questions. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2 On 27 Sep 2011, at 12:40, Stephen Martin wrote: 2 headphones outs each with their own level control on the front. also the phantom power, DIM/mute button for all the speakers, mono/stereo button so u can quickly listen to your mixes in mono, and the A/B/C button so u can quickly cycle through and audition all your different monitors are all in the same area. There is another button in that area on the right
Re: Again about MBox-Pro.
The only really inaccessible part is if you want to turn on or off the hi pass filter on each of the 4 inputs with XLR/Line inputs, and to configure the monitor outputs as either 3 separate pairs of monitors or as a 5.1 sorround mix you will need to do this in the driver software and that is inaccessible with VO. Atleast it was on SL, havent tried it on Lion but have no reason to believe its now accesssible. If i didn't answer your question, please let me know more specifically what you have questions about. On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Chiapello Diego wrote: Sorry guys, I read your post about MBox-Pro but I didn't understand well about the initial inaccessibility to cinfigure it. Someone can explain me better, please? Thank you and have a nice evening. Diego.
Re: Successes and failures with PT 9.05 Beta and Lion.
Any one else having an issue where Space bar has to be pressed a few time to get play to start? The adding busses issues was on my Air with now usb drive, once i tried on the iMac and loaded the p project off an external drive, i could add busses without it crashing. On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:40 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Awesome. I totally forgot about that tidbit. You rock. Kevin On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: BTW, in all Pro Tools dialogs with tabs, pressing Command plus the numbers row will select the corresponding tab. so, for example, if you want to select the Operations tab in the Preferences dialog, press Command-2 and that will activate the second tab which is Operations. HTH, Slau On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:16 PM, MLock wrote: Hy with the VO Space not selecting tabs I reported earlier, I found if you just hit the space key the tab you need gets selected. Some time VO says selected but you are still seeing the menu items from the previous tab, so I just hit ok, close the menu and when I reopen its selected with the right corresponding menu. Don't know if that's specific to my setup or a voiceover/lion/protools problem. l8r Kevin Reeves wrote: Thanks so much for this info. Kevin
Re: Audio interface
Hey, You should check out the Avid M-Box Pro. Not sure what the price translate to in pounds bout it may be slightly out of your price range. Howerver It's the same quality of converters and mic pre's that are in the new HD line of interfaces, and it has inserts which makes patching in external hardware a breeze, and 3 Pairs of outputs in addition so you can do a 5.1 monitor set up or have 3 different pairs of monitors hooked up to A/B/C your mixes on. Let me know if ou are interested and have any more questions on it.y On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya all, Sorry, me again! Now I'm looking for a replacement for my Mobile pre, something that has multiple outputs, so I can have say a monitor send, plus auxiliaries, for example if I want to use my VoiceLive 2 post-processing. What is there in say the 0-500 GBP range? I shouldn't really spend too much money on it, but I'd like something that will kick a bit more ass than my Mobile Pre, which, I might add, has served me well over the years. Cheers all, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2
Re: Audio interface
Ok, lets see how good the old memory is. Since i got mine, i kind of set it up and havent really touch it since, All my Usaula things are plugged in and ready to go. So the m-Box Pro is an 8 in and 8 out unit. the 8 ins break down like this. 4 analog ins that have XLR or 1/4 balanced/unbalanced inputs. INs 1 and 2 also double as high z inputs so u can use it as a DI and plug a guitar or bass right into it. Inputs 5 and 6 are unbalanced rca and or 1/8 in stereo input. Input 7 and 8 are the S/PDIF stereo ins that u will need the break out cable for. Outs 1 through 6 are balanced 1/4 jacks and outs 7 and 8 are once again the stereo S/PDIF. The brakout cable that you connect to the back of the unit has the S/PDIF in and outs and the Midi Ins and outs. Now the first 4 inputs each have an insert for them so u can patch in outbourd gear. the jacks are stereo jacks and thus you would need a stereo Y cable to use with these jacks. So you would plug the stereo 1/4 end into the insert jack. The left 1/4 plug into the effect input and the right stereo plug into the output of the effect. The way this works is a mono signal travels from the M-Box, down the left side through the effect and back up the right side back into the M-Box. U should be able to choose the inserts and options under the inserts or sends menu in place of plug ins. I will verify that for you when i next open up PT. Hope this helps and made sense. Also google the harmony central Pro review of the unit. On Sep 25, 2011, at 3:19 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Just looked at it, and it's in my price range at the minute, so I'll probably be getting one in the not so distant future. But how does it work? Do the inns and outs map to different bits in Pro Tools? For example, for my outboard fx, and I set the output of a channel to be outputs 3-4 or so, and chuck the fx unit on them, then come back in? How many of each thing does it have etc? It didn't really say much on DV247. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2 On 25 Sep 2011, at 17:16, Stephen Martin wrote: Hey, You should check out the Avid M-Box Pro. Not sure what the price translate to in pounds bout it may be slightly out of your price range. Howerver It's the same quality of converters and mic pre's that are in the new HD line of interfaces, and it has inserts which makes patching in external hardware a breeze, and 3 Pairs of outputs in addition so you can do a 5.1 monitor set up or have 3 different pairs of monitors hooked up to A/B/C your mixes on. Let me know if ou are interested and have any more questions on it.y On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya all, Sorry, me again! Now I'm looking for a replacement for my Mobile pre, something that has multiple outputs, so I can have say a monitor send, plus auxiliaries, for example if I want to use my VoiceLive 2 post-processing. What is there in say the 0-500 GBP range? I shouldn't really spend too much money on it, but I'd like something that will kick a bit more ass than my Mobile Pre, which, I might add, has served me well over the years. Cheers all, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Skype [and iChat]: chris.norman7[@mac.com] Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisnorman7 Twitter: www.twitter.com/chrisnorman7 Follow my music on Facebook: www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject Or on Twitter: www.twitter.com/cnproject The Chris Norman Project's Youtube channel can be found at: www.youtube.com/user/thechrisnorman2
Reverbs EQ, Compressors and etc.
Hello All, So I am starting to work on more mixing and editing in ProTools now and was wondering if you guys had any favorite plug ins outside of the degi or avid plugin ins that ship with pro tools tat u would like to share, especially the 3 i mentioned in the subject line. Haven't really found a built in reverb i like yet, and the eq's seem great for cutting and are transperent and all but what else is out there. I have gathered a ton of favorite 3rd party plug ins I used from time to time on the pc, but needless to say most don't have a mac version. Thanks.
Master Bus in PT
Just a quick question about PT9. When u create a blank session is a master bus automatically created for you and thats what outs 1/2 is or will i have to add a master bus to my project and change the outs to master and then the master outs to outs 1.2 on the hardware interface to have a master bus in the project?
Re: Master Bus in PT
Thanks, that's what i thought. but wasn't sure and was still little uncertain after consulting the PT Reference guide. Thanks for clearing that up On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:40 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi stephen, Technically, in Pro Tools there is no such thing as a master bus, per se. There are busses, of course, but they have no particular hierarchy. If you're talking about a master track, when you create them, they simply control whatever output channels you assign to them. You don't necessarily need a master track. By default, all new tracks are assigned to outputs 1-2. If you wish to have an overall volume control over outputs 1-2, create a master track and assign it to Analog outs 1-2. HTH, Slau On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:27 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: Just a quick question about PT9. When u create a blank session is a master bus automatically created for you and thats what outs 1/2 is or will i have to add a master bus to my project and change the outs to master and then the master outs to outs 1.2 on the hardware interface to have a master bus in the project?
Re: Pro tools and m-audio cards
Voiceover is great in 10.7, in fact i like some of the improvements they made to voiceover in 10..7 a lot. However, the latest version of ProTools, which is currently 9.05 is only a beta for 10.7 and not fully qualified for 10.7. On Aug 27, 2011, at 6:43 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Ok, but why we can't use the 10.7? the voice over is not good or what? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:57 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro tools and m-audio cards Hello Coreaudio is the mac os audio subsystem. This encompasses the drivers and the libraries which allow audio apps to talk to the sound hardware. If your audio card says that it has support for mac os 10.6 and 10.7 than you are good to go. The reason why I mention 10.7 is that that is the os that just came out. It is best to install 10.6 on your new hardware at this time. Any new hardware you buy from Apple will come with 10.7 already installed. If you have an Apple store near you they should be able to set this up for you. HTH --FC On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Ok, but please, what is coreaudio and is it sure that my card will work then? Sorry for my miss understanding Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:42 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Pro tools and m-audio cards Hello Pro tools 9 supports any device that has coreaudio drivers. If you can use it on a mac you can use it with pro tools. HTH --FC On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hi all: I will try to enter the pro tools world on a mac machine, but am asking, I have the m-audio card 1814, will the pro tools will work on it? Or I will use the pro tools m-powered? And will the voice over will work with the m-powered? What r the difference please? Cheers: Ramy Moustafa If music be the food of love... play on. Mobile: 0020102221750 Personal email: ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com Msn and aim messengers: flutelo...@link.net Studio email: harmonystudio2...@gmail.com facebook profile: http://www.facebook.com/ Twitter: moustafa.r...@gmail.com youtube chanael: www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber winmail.dat
