Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there were millions of files to be backed up which took many days or perhaps even weeks to fully back up. In this case we were backing up from a NetApp to a DLT robot using NDMP. We never successfully finished a backup and ended up totally rearchitecting that setup but this won't be possible with the mail system. -- Tracy Reed http://www.ultraviolet.org My karma ran over your dogma.
qmail Digest 4 May 2000 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 991
qmail Digest 4 May 2000 10:00:00 - Issue 991 Topics (messages 40918 through 40983): Re: POP or SMTP 40918 by: Uwe Ohse Re: qmail's sendmail 40919 by: Dave Sill 40920 by: Johan Almqvist Re: Mail purge 40921 by: Dave Sill Re: Out of memory error?? 40922 by: Dave Sill 40926 by: TAG Re: Newbie setting up aliases 40923 by: Dave Sill 40970 by: bob 40971 by: bobski.netnet.net Re: Error Message.. 40924 by: Dave Sill Re: Interesting scenerio 40925 by: Greg Owen 40928 by: Mulindwa Eric Re: Interesting scenario 40927 by: Tim Hunter qmail-remote crashed 40929 by: Nat Fellows 40930 by: Dave Sill 40932 by: Andy Repton 40934 by: Ricardo Cerqueira where do I find info on setting up apop 40931 by: dholt local delivery for 1 user only 40933 by: Tim Hunter 40949 by: Gregory J. Forkin 40956 by: Mrs. Brisby 40962 by: Roger Merchberger Re: Web front-end to mail service 40935 by: Patrick Ohiomoba 40946 by: Aled Treharne Re: system start script 40936 by: Zhiliang Hu 40939 by: Vince Vielhaber 40943 by: Zhiliang Hu Best mailling format for large attachments 40937 by: Steve Quezadas 40940 by: markd.bushwire.net Setup of local delivery fastforward (newbie question) 40938 by: Mikhail Kuzminsky Re: Three questions... 40941 by: Jeff Hayward 40942 by: Jeff Hayward Delivers and retrieves... 40944 by: Bolivar Diaz Galarza smtp-auth? 40945 by: Russell Nelson 40947 by: Russell Nelson 40948 by: listy-dyskusyjne Krzysztof Dabrowski Does anyone write German and English 40950 by: Gregory J. Forkin Making progress 40951 by: Bolivar Diaz Galarza 40952 by: Tim Hunter 40954 by: Bolivar Diaz Galarza Problems using qmail on very large site 40953 by: root 40980 by: markd.bushwire.net Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup 40955 by: Kins Orekhov 40959 by: Russ Allbery 40963 by: Kins Orekhov 40966 by: Kins Orekhov 40968 by: Peter Samuel Does Qmail handle mbx 40957 by: Steve Quezadas 40964 by: Bob Rogers 40969 by: David Harris redirecting some email 40958 by: Jason Brooke Correcting an error in a SQL statement 40960 by: Steve Quezadas Best MySQL GUI 40961 by: Steve Quezadas Emergency with the queue 40965 by: clifford thurber 40967 by: Eric Cox Mental torture 40972 by: Isaiah Chua 40975 by: Peter Samuel 40976 by: Adam McKenna 40977 by: Peter Samuel 40978 by: Adam McKenna No retry and no bounce? 40973 by: Yuan P Li 40974 by: Adam McKenna Another question on mailboxes 40979 by: Isaiah Chua what does this mean in my logfile? 40981 by: Isaiah Chua 40982 by: Jason Brooke Backing up HUGE Maildir systems 40983 by: Tracy R Reed Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 11:41:47AM +0300, R.Ilker Gokhan wrote: Thanks for replies. which protocol should i use to establish communication between branch office and the main office so that using the bandwith becomes more effectively? It does not really matter. The bandwidth requirements are about the same. POP has overhead, a few hundred bytes per connection, and so has SMTP. If you _really_ need to preserve bandwidth and if you have compressible messages (most attachments are not), and if you don't mind a bit of hacking a bit, then you might want to use serialmail/ucspi-tcp over a compressed SSH connection. Regards, Uwe "J.M. Roth \(iip\)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok well, what do you mean with "mimic sendmail". A customer asked me to point out to him all the options of our mail sending tool for use in his cgi progs. I'm not sure what to say... # grep usage: sendmail.c substdio_putsflush(subfderr,"sendmail: usage: sendmail [ -t ] [ -fsender ] [ -Fname ] [ -bp ] [ -bs ] [ arg ... ]\n"); There are various other options that are silently ignored. -Dave On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 08:33:44AM -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Ok well, what do you mean with "mimic sendmail". A customer asked me to point out to him all the options of our mail sending tool for use in his cgi progs. I'm not sure what to say... Or else, you might want to introduce your users to qmail-inject. There's a man page for qmail-inject... -Johan -- Johan Almqvist Mulindwa Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dave Sill wrote: Mulindwa Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lots of XXX and Sendmail 8.8.8
Hello, from some time now, i'm receiving messages corrupted with sequences of the char 'X'. It dos not happen with all the messages, only with a few, but it is persistent. Sometimes it corrupts the header making the all messages unreadable. Sometime corrupts attached files. After doing some traces, I found that it could be related to emails coming from Sendmail 8.8.8 servers (or Sendmails with a similar version). Does anybody have the same (or similar problem)? Is it Qmail or Sendmail problem? Could it be a "chip is bad" problem? By the way, I'm using Qmail 1.03 (19980615) on a Linux box (Compaq Prosignia, 486DX 66Mhz) with 2 Realtek ethernet cards. Thanks, João Dinis
Re: stralloc problem
"Petr Novotny" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You may want to read the source of the function, I would think. Or find a documentation. http://cr.yp.to/lib/stralloc.html Regards, /Daniel -- Daniel Neri Signalteknik AB, Sweden
Converting sendmail mailboxes to qMail
hi, I read somewhere on the mailing list archive that it's possible to convert existing /var/mail/user mailboxes that were under sendmail to qmail Maildir formats using a perl script called convert-and-create. The author said to look for it at the qMail site, but my luck's run dry with that option. Does anyone know where I can find this script? I desperately need to convert 'lost' emails from my boss's sendmail box to qMail so she can pick them up. Thanks! Best regards, Isaiah Chua
Re: Converting sendmail mailboxes to qMail
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Isaiah Chua wrote: hi, I read somewhere on the mailing list archive that it's possible to convert existing /var/mail/user mailboxes that were under sendmail to qmail Maildir formats using a perl script called convert-and-create. The author said to look for it at the qMail site, but my luck's run dry with that option. Does anyone know where I can find this script? I desperately need to convert 'lost' emails from my boss's sendmail box to qMail so she can pick them up. If anywhere, you should be able to find it at www.qmail.org. BTW, what is qMail? Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com ==
Re: lots of XXX and Sendmail 8.8.8
On Thu, 4 May 2000, João Dinis wrote: from some time now, i'm receiving messages corrupted with sequences of the char 'X'. It dos not happen with all the messages, only with a few, but it is persistent. Sometimes it corrupts the header making the all messages unreadable. Sometime corrupts attached files. Does your mail go anywhere near a system running the Cyrus IMAP/POP server? There's an option in that to make illegal header values legal by simply replacing the illegal characters with an 'X'. Your situation sounds similar. Chris.
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Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:14:25AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? don't do it. Nobody likes getting duplicate mail. I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there Use a raid system. Regards, Uwe
Re: Converting sendmail mailboxes to qMail
* Vince Vielhaber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [ 4 May 2000 06:47]: If anywhere, you should be able to find it at www.qmail.org. BTW, what is qMail? http://madhaus.utcs.utoronto.ca/qmail/mbox2maildir -- Quist ConsultingEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea DriveVoice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
Re: redirecting some email
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 10:04:58AM +1000, Jason Brooke wrote: Is it possible to have qmail forward email destined to one address, to another address instead, if it contains certain file attachments based on file extension? yes. Use some magic inside the .qmail file. man dot-qmail man qmail-command Note that this is not really trivial to do. Regards, Uwe
Re: redirecting some email
I wrote a script to pipe the emails into from the .qmail file. Seems to work ok, thanks jason yes. Use some magic inside the .qmail file. man dot-qmail man qmail-command Note that this is not really trivial to do. Regards, Uwe
Re: Making progress
"Bolivar Diaz Galarza" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: qmail-pop3d is installed in my computer, my problem is how do I configure it to deliver from Maildir instead of mbox (right now it works with mbox)? qmail-pop3d *only* does maildir's. If you're seeing mbox's, you're not using qmail-pop3d. -Dave
RE: Making progress
qmail-pop3d only reads Maildir. -Original Message- From: Bolivar Diaz Galarza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:08 PM To: Tim Hunter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Making progress qmail-pop3d is installed in my computer, my problem is how do I configure it to deliver from Maildir instead of mbox (right now it works with mbox)? Thanks for replying... Bolivar, - Original Message - From: "Tim Hunter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bolivar Diaz Galarza" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: RE: Making progress I have a feeling I am not the only one confused. I assume you changed your default delivery method to ./Maildir/ which will put mails in your ./Maildir/new/ directory. If you are trying to retrieve mails from there now with pop, you need qmail-pop3d or any other program that can read /Maildir/'s. AFAIK nothing can pop mail from a Maildir besides qmail-pop3d, but I have been know to be wrong, but why would anyone make anything, qmail-pop3d is distributed with qmail and its great. -- Tim -Original Message- From: Bolivar Diaz Galarza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Making progress I have succesfully switch the incoming e-mails to use Maildir instead of Mailbox or mbox, my problem remaining is when a user retrieves his e-mail from a POP client, he gets no e-mail..which programs delivers e-mail to clients is it pop3d? I need to make qmail deliver whatever is in Maildir/new instead of mbox or Mailbox... Thanks...
qmail won't start!?
hi folks, I've finally got qmail to work with a lot of help from Johan Almqvist and Peter Samuel - thanks guys! However, the funny thing is that when we had to reboot the server, qmail just won't start! The init scripts are in, and I even tried starting it from the command line, but nothing happens. I'm using tcpserver to start the qmail-pop3 and qmail itself in my inetd.conf file. What might be wrong? Best regards, Isaiah ChuaOfficial Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM Nick : radar00
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I'm really confused. Here's the path that logs go thru on my machine: qmail - accustamp - tailocal If I'm disabling tailocal, then my logs ARE suitable for qmailanalog, so why do I need to run my logs thru tai64nfrac if everything works fine in this case? qmail-analog wants the timestamps in "TAI" format, not "TAI64", and not local. accustamp outputs the format qmail-analog requires. daemontools 0.60+ (multilog) uses TAI64. Tai64nfrac converts TAI64 timestamps to the older "TAI" format that qmail-analog requires. -Dave
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there were millions of files to be backed up which took many days or perhaps even weeks to fully back up. In this case we were backing up from a NetApp to a DLT robot using NDMP. We never successfully finished a backup and ended up totally rearchitecting that setup but this won't be possible with the mail system. Short answer: Don't use tape. Long answer: There are two different requirements you may be addressing; archival copies so you can go back in time to retrieve files, and disaster recovery such as having a lunatic empty a machine gun in to your disk farm. The thing to worry about in the latter is time-to-restore. We store about 7.9 million messages on a single NetApp. We don't make archival copies as they aren't likely to capture much of the message stream. Not having archival copies also keeps us out of messy legal territory. We do replicate the entire message store on a warm standby NetApp using their snapmirror feature. We snapshot every 15 minutes, so we'll never be more than that interval out of date if we have to go to the standby. The snapmirror update is incremental, so we aren't transferring much data at each interval. The snapshot mechanism is nice because it provides a clean time delineation of what is snapped. If you want to keep archival copies you can simply take daily/whatever standard snapshots on the source filer and leave them online for whatever your retention period may be. All it costs is disk space, which isn't cheap with NetApp, but it's better than tape. It takes about 10 minutes to switch to the standby - something we've only done once in production (in a controlled manner for a hardware upgrade). All that's involved is mounting file systems from the standby on our unix boxes. Our standby filer isn't co-located with the active one... -- Jeff Hayward
Re: No retry and no bounce?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I setup email to ignore all messages that cannot be delivered, i.e., even not to bother the re-delievery and bounce? Setting queuelifetime to 0 should prevent all retries. Disabling bounces will require hacking the code, but it should be trivial. -Dave
Re: Another question on mailboxes
"Isaiah Chua" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I keep getting this error message when trying to send mails to my new qmail server at the office: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.twc-sg.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) I've already created the Maildir dir in the $HOME for myself. What can be wrong? Your username is isaiah.chua? Do you own Maildir? What Do The Logs Say(tm)? -Dave
Re: Problems using qmail on very large site
Hi Mark, They stay running forever and the parent process is qmail-queue. Now I have 162 defunct process. Today I will try to alter rlim_fd_cur to 64 (the number of file descriptors - Today the value is 1024. 64 was the original value) and keep the rlim_fd_max to 2048, like it is today and I will reboot the machines. I read somewhere that isn't a good idea change the default current limit of file descriptors like I did. They suggest only change the max number of file descriptor. Well, is just a guess, but I think that won't cause any damage to try ;-) Thanks for your attention ! Regards. The problem is the fact that I'm having too much defunct process. Usually I have between 350-500 process running by machine. From that, normally I have between 90-120 defunct process per machine. Do they stay forever, or do they go away? Which qmail process is the parent? I have seen Solaris 2.x systems where processes do stay around forever, but I have not seen in on, eg, FreeBSD. Regards.
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Send retries
Hi. When and how often tries qmail to resend a mail to a specific recipient after a delivery failure? I already have found this information some time ago, but now I cannot find it again. It was something like after 4 hours, after 9 hours, after 1 day (and so on...) Where can I find this information? Martin
Re: Send retries
Martin Renner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When and how often tries qmail to resend a mail to a specific recipient after a delivery failure? Where can I find this information? http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#retry-schedule -Dave
The I love you virus .. and content based filtering
Lusers are stupid, and it's a shame that we have to do this, but ... to stop the plague before things get too nasty, we need to filter that bloody "I love you" worm. Is there any way to quickly (and dirtily) implement that in qmail? I'm not looking for a permanent solution, just a quick workaround that I'll get rid off later.
Global Address Book?
We have been using qmail for our main email server/gateway. We use regular Unix accounts for email accounts. Our client is MS Outlook. I was just wondering if this configuration could be used to create a global address book for our users. -- Albert Hopkins Sr. Systems Specialist Dynacare Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The I love you virus .. and content based filtering
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:28:37PM +0200, Nicolas MONNET wrote: Lusers are stupid, and it's a shame that we have to do this, but ... to stop the plague before things get too nasty, we need to filter that bloody "I love you" worm. Is there any way to quickly (and dirtily) implement that in qmail? I'm not looking for a permanent solution, just a quick workaround that I'll get rid off later. I'll say it again: scan4virus from the qmail homepage can do that. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
Messages stop getting delivered
I am not the system administrator for qmail or Cyrus and am a newbie to qmail so bear with any incorrect statements. I tried to look up the FAQs for qmail but did not find anything specific to this problem. We have been seeing a strange problem with mail not being delivered to the mailbox. We have qmail (release 1.03) mail transfer agent running on a linux box. Mail is delivered to Cyrus (IMAP v1.5.14) using the following command |preline -f /usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -a sb -e sb We have an application that listens to the mailboxes on the Cyrus server using the javamail API. We have situations where more than one application program may be listening to the same mailbox at the same time. We run into a situation about once in every two days or so where mail does not get delivered to the mailboxes. The qmail logs don't give any error messages. We see that qmail is trying to deliver messages but there is no notification of successfuly delivery. The imap server is fine though because we can still process existing emails. Only new messages encounter this. At this point, our system administrators just give up and reboot both qmail and Cyrus. Once the servers are rebooted, all the messages appear correctly in the mailbox (even the new ones that seemed to be hung somewhere). Has anybody faced this problem before? Any ideas as to what might be going on? Is it possible that multiple clients accessing the same mailbox is somehow causing this problem? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Ashish P. Narvekar email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:14:25AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there were millions of files to be backed up which took many days or perhaps even Above and beyond the comments of the other people wrt whether it's worth backing up in this way, I'm told that something like the dump command may more efficiently deal with large numbers of small files because it forks off multiple processes rather than serializes as other products/programs may do. Then again, many millions of file system lookup are probably going to hose your system for a long long time. Regards.
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
Yes, use rsync, and update frequently. This will backup the system and only 'backup' changes that are taking place, thus not requiring you to do a FULL backup. With this method however, you will lose any information that has changed between your rsync updates. On Thu, 4 May 2000, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there were millions of files to be backed up which took many days or perhaps even weeks to fully back up. In this case we were backing up from a NetApp to a DLT robot using NDMP. We never successfully finished a backup and ended up totally rearchitecting that setup but this won't be possible with the mail system. -- Tracy Reed http://www.ultraviolet.org My karma ran over your dogma. ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 10:15am up 100 days, 17:12, 7 users, load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.10
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Uwe Ohse wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:14:25AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? don't do it. Nobody likes getting duplicate mail. Doing backups has absolutely nothing to do with duplicate emails? I fail to see your point here? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there Use a raid system. While a RAID system will protect you from certain failures (ie. hard drive crash) there are other failures that it cannot protect you against. Human error, hacker rm -rf'ing your server, etc, etc) whereas offsite, or off machine backups will. I would feel better knowing that my users precious mail is also backed up on RAID as well as on another machine/media. Im sure they would feel the same way as well. ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 10:20am up 100 days, 17:17, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.11, 0.09
Re: Problems using qmail on very large site
Yuan, For change the current and max number of file descriptors in Solaris 2.6 (in 2.7 I think is the same but I'm not sure), you need add two entries in your /etc/system file: set rlim_fd_cur=1024 set rlim_fd_max=2048 and you MUST reboot your machine in order to changes take effect. To see if everythings works, try to use the command ulimit -a before and after the modifications. Unfortanately the max number of file descriptors wouldn't be showed, just the current will (open files parameter). Hope this helps. Regards, Claudio Hi, Excuse me for asking a silly question. In Solaris 2.6 or 2.7, how do you change rlim_fd_max etc? I cannot find it in the Answer Books. Thank you very much. Yuan Hi Mark, They stay running forever and the parent process is qmail-queue. Now I have 162 defunct process. Today I will try to alter rlim_fd_cur to 64 (the number of file descriptors - Today the value is 1024. 64 was the original value) and keep the rlim_fd_max to 2048, like it is today and I will reboot the machines. I read somewhere that isn't a good idea change the default current limit of file descriptors like I did. They suggest only change the max number of file descriptor. Well, is just a guess, but I think that won't cause any damage to try ;-) Thanks for your attention ! Regards. The problem is the fact that I'm having too much defunct process. Usually I have between 350-500 process running by machine. From that, normally I have between 90-120 defunct process per machine. Do they stay forever, or do they go away? Which qmail process is the parent? I have seen Solaris 2.x systems where processes do stay around forever, but I have not seen in on, eg, FreeBSD. Regards.
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blocking mails by subject?
Hi, with the mass amount of worms and trojans spreading around these days i am wondering if it's possible to block mails with qmail by subject? (for example the current "LOVEBUG" worm: if subject = 'ILOVEYOU' then block it) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jerry. -- Jerry Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aardvark IPL Fax +353 21 896040 Morris house Tel +353 21 896060 Douglas Cork Ireland. http://www.aardvark.ie/
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Try sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Dave
Re: qmail won't start!?
"Isaiah Chua" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The init scripts are in, In what/where? And what's in them? And what platform are you using? and I even tried starting it from the command line, but nothing happens. By "nothing happens" do you mean that the script runs but doesn't output anything, runs but exits immediately, or what? I'm using tcpserver to start the qmail-pop3 and qmail itself in my inetd.conf file. You can't start qmail from inetd.conf. Perhaps you mean qmail-smtpd? What might be wrong? Your startup scripts might be misconfigured. -Dave
Re: Emergency with the queue
clifford thurber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a user who is spamming. Is there a way to stop qmail
# qmail stop (LWQ)
# killall qmail-send (Linux, IRIX, *not* Solaris)
# ps -ef|grep qmail-send
# kill [PID of qmail-send]
and delete
everything from the queue?
# find /var/qmail/queue -type f -exec rm {} \;
-Dave
Re: Delivers and retrieves...
"Bolivar Diaz Galarza" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My /var/qmail/rc file looks like this: #! /bin/sh exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \ qmail-start '|dot-forward .forward ./Maildir/' So default delivery is to ./Maildir/ --barring existence of a .forward for .qmail file. My /etc/skel looks like this Maildir - cur - new - tmp Mailbox mbox You don't need/want Mailbox or mbox. PROBLEM: Qmail delivers to the file Mailbox, Yes, that's a problem. Did you restart qmail after changing /var/qmail/rc? Does ps show qmail-start with the right delivery instructions? and when a user checks his e-mail using a POP3 cliente like Netscape, delivers whatever is in mbox, Another problem. Which POP daemon are you running? You should probably run qmail-pop3d, if you want to use Maildirs. -Dave
Re: The I love you virus .. and content based filtering
I installed the new AmaVis a few days ago. It works right off, is easy to impliment and we did not get the virus. :) I got 4 notices about it though. I am using AmaVis and NAI. -Jennifer On Thu, 4 May 2000, Johan Almqvist wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:28:37PM +0200, Nicolas MONNET wrote: Lusers are stupid, and it's a shame that we have to do this, but ... to stop the plague before things get too nasty, we need to filter that bloody "I love you" worm. Is there any way to quickly (and dirtily) implement that in qmail? I'm not looking for a permanent solution, just a quick workaround that I'll get rid off later. I'll say it again: scan4virus from the qmail homepage can do that. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2000, Uwe Ohse wrote: don't do it. Nobody likes getting duplicate mail. Doing backups has absolutely nothing to do with duplicate emails? I fail to see your point here? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there Use a raid system. While a RAID system will protect you from certain failures (ie. hard drive crash) there are other failures that it cannot protect you against. Human error, hacker rm -rf'ing your server, etc, etc) whereas offsite, or off machine backups will. I would feel better knowing that my users precious mail is also backed up on RAID as well as on another machine/media. Im sure they would feel the same way as well. the point is that backing-up e-mail doesn't prevent lost messages, and more results in duplkicate messages if you restore your backup. e-mail usually moves so fast that many messages come and go from the server between nightly backups, and many of the messages you may backup (unless the server crashes immediately after the backup is completed) will be delivered before the server crashes, and many more messages will get queued in that time as well... to keep a usefull backup of e-mail you'd need something that stores the messages as their recieved and erases them when they're sucessfully delivered.. so either use a RAID system, or write a program that sends them off to a secondary server whenever they come in.. but nightly backups just don't cut it for e-mail.. -Brian
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Brian Johnson wrote: sends them off to a secondary server whenever they come in.. but nightly backups just don't cut it for e-mail.. -Brian As stated in previous email, rsync, 15 minute intervals ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 11:25am up 100 days, 18:22, 7 users, load average: 0.02, 0.06, 0.09
System Requirements
Hi, I'm currently investigating setting up a Qmail server for a local ISP who is having some problems with it's local setup. I've done some work with Qmail, however I've never built a production server with it. I'm just wondering what kind of system specs you would recommend for a server that is going to start out hosting approximately 700 users, with a max of 120 being able to access the system at a time. I would like these specs to be mid to high end requirements for this setup, to leave a fair amount of room for expanding without having to do any work on the server itself. Thanks, Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Douglas - Computer Technician, A+, MCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] VB, VC++, App Game Programming http://www.9thlevel.org/ - General Computer Geek Extraordinaire -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Setup of local delivery fastforward (newbie question)
Mikhail Kuzminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Is it possible (and how) to setup Qmail and fastforward for work with /bin/mail as a local delivery agent *and* to deliver all the mail messages (sent to particular user - to blah, for example) - to the pipe like |usr/people/blah/program /usr/people/blah/blahfile ? Install qmail and fastforward. Put: |usr/people/blah/program /usr/people/blah/blahfile in ~blah/.qmail. 2) Is it possible (and how) to setup qmail-local (as local delivery agent) to deliver: a) mail for any user to /var/mail/user No, qmail-local only delivers to $HOME. You can do that with other delivery agents, though. b) but excluding user blah - for this user mail should be transferred to pipe |/usr/people/blah/program /usr/people/blah/blahfile ? qmail-users can be used to override the default delivery instructions as well as the .qmail files in a user's directory. Why don't you jsut tell us what you're trying to do, and we'll tell you how to do it, if we can. -Dave
Re: System Requirements
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 10:54:09AM -0700, Mark Douglas wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating setting up a Qmail server for a local ISP who is having some problems with it's local setup. I've done some work with Qmail, however I've never built a production server with it. I'm just wondering what kind of system specs you would recommend for a server that is going to start out hosting approximately 700 users, with a max of 120 being able to Notwithstanding that these are pretty unusual ratios for an ISP, 700 users is a very small number if you're talking about just SMTP, POP3 and some form of standard authentication, such as NIS+, /etc/passwd. access the system at a time. I would like these specs to be mid to high end requirements for this setup, to leave a fair amount of room for expanding without having to do any work on the server itself. If I know a system is likely to expand a lot, what I do is ensure that the system can be distributed at a later stage, this can mean something as simple as careful selection of DNS names and multi-homing and tcpserver. Eg, make sure they use smtp.some.domain for sending, pop.some.domain for fetching and have these on separate IP addresses. For ISPs with 5000-1 I typically see a single pentium box with decent scsi spindles doing just fine. The most important thing is probably ensuring you have room to grow disk-wise and spindle-wise. So starting with a scsi controller disk subsystem with a couple of spindles is probably the most important thing you can do. Regards.
Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
Setup: LAN, Redhat 6.1, qmail, vpopmail/vchkpw, Mailman list software Default domain : sanshri.com, Virtual domain : ppp.com Mailman list is configured for the virtual domain ppp.com Problem : Two Delivered-To headers are being generated - one addressed to the alias, and the other with the actual destination address - the mailman list owner address. (see below) I am having this problem not only in this case, but also when i manually create an alias in the default domain sanshri.com So far i have never been able to create an alias entry without the mail having two delivered-to headers ? I do not have this problem when i create an alias through qmailadmin/vpopmail. The alias setup for the virtual domain is as follows : - In /domains/ppp.com/.qmail-pppshar | preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post pppshar In .qmail-default the vdelivermail is called... and the default line put by vpopmail is there undisturbed in /var/qmail/users/assign Headers : Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 1040 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Received: from unknown (HELO sanshri.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 986 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Received: from unknown (HELO ppp) (192.168.0.3) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Message-ID: 003f01bfb5be$ddd1ef80$0300a8c0@ppp From: "listc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - What could be the problem here ? I want only one Delivered-To header in the messages. Please help ksamy ++ PPPshar- Internet for your LAN with one Internet account netMailshar -Email for every desktop with one 'Net account. MailAssistant - Speaking Email Notifier GetAgain - resume interrupted downloads. Visit http://www.pppindia.com/software ++
Re: System Requirements
I'm currently investigating setting up a Qmail server for a local ISP who is having some problems with it's local setup. I've done some work with Qmail, however I've never built a production server with it. I'm just wondering what kind of system specs you would recommend for a server that is going to start out hosting approximately 700 users, with a max of 120 being able to access the system at a time. I would like these specs to be mid to high end requirements for this setup, to leave a fair amount of room for expanding without having to do any work on the server itself. The limitations that you'll have the largest trouble dealing with are network bandwidth and disk I/O. The Pentium 233 that I used for a mail server for quite a while handled high loads very well, as far CPU. The limiting factors were the 512k pipe, and the throughput to the IDE disk, not the CPU. So use SCSI disks, and any recent processor (celeron/PII/PIII). You'll be able to handle volumes of mail that the ISP hasn't even dreamed of yet. steve
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) -- Kins Orekhov Outlook Technologies, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 773-775-2099, ext. 226 http://swoop.outlook.net
RE: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
But its being delivered to 2 places. This is perfectly normal behavior for qmail. Why should it matter how many delivered-to headers there are ? Matt Soffen Web Intranet Developer http://www.iso-ne.com/ == Boss- "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers." Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX." Boss- "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said never mind." - Dilbert - == -Original Message- From: PPPindia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ? Setup: LAN, Redhat 6.1, qmail, vpopmail/vchkpw, Mailman list software Default domain : sanshri.com, Virtual domain : ppp.com Mailman list is configured for the virtual domain ppp.com Problem : Two Delivered-To headers are being generated - one addressed to the alias, and the other with the actual destination address - the mailman list owner address. (see below) I am having this problem not only in this case, but also when i manually create an alias in the default domain sanshri.com So far i have never been able to create an alias entry without the mail having two delivered-to headers ? I do not have this problem when i create an alias through qmailadmin/vpopmail. The alias setup for the virtual domain is as follows : - In /domains/ppp.com/.qmail-pppshar | preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post pppshar In .qmail-default the vdelivermail is called... and the default line put by vpopmail is there undisturbed in /var/qmail/users/assign Headers : Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 1040 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Received: from unknown (HELO sanshri.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 986 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Received: from unknown (HELO ppp) (192.168.0.3) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Message-ID: 003f01bfb5be$ddd1ef80$0300a8c0@ppp From: "listc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - What could be the problem here ? I want only one Delivered-To header in the messages. Please help ksamy ++ PPPshar- Internet for your LAN with one Internet account netMailshar -Email for every desktop with one 'Net account. MailAssistant - Speaking Email Notifier GetAgain - resume interrupted downloads. Visit http://www.pppindia.com/software ++
Smtp-poplock
Hello all Has anyone been able to get smtp-poplock to work with the following configuration qmail-1.03 tcpserv qpopper mbox to ~/Mailbox From the doc I must run qmail and tcpserv under supervise. Currently I start qmail and tcpserv from one of my rc.d scripts. Any ideas or pointers? Thanks Bert Beaudin
RE: Problems using qmail on very large site
Claudio, I looked at my record just now. I have a Sun Ultra 5 running Solaris 2.7. When I increased the number of concurrent remote processes to 50, the log file shows "cannot open pipe" error for a lot of the processes. Is this caused by rlim_fd_max too small? Sincerely, Yuan Yuan, For change the current and max number of file descriptors in Solaris 2.6 (in 2.7 I think is the same but I'm not sure), you need add two entries in your /etc/system file: set rlim_fd_cur=1024 set rlim_fd_max=2048 and you MUST reboot your machine in order to changes take effect. To see if everythings works, try to use the command ulimit -a before and after the modifications. Unfortanately the max number of file descriptors wouldn't be showed, just the current will (open files parameter). Hope this helps. Regards, Claudio
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) So what? Do you have a quota on the number of times tailocal can be run? -Dave
Re: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
"Soffen, Matthew" wrote: But its being delivered to 2 places. This is perfectly normal behavior for qmail. Why should it matter how many delivered-to headers there are ? No. Only one copy is delivered to one address. First, qmail sents to the alias, then mailman program is called in the alias. I have also said ... So far i have never been able to create an alias entry without the mail having two delivered-to headers ? I do not have this problem when i create an alias through qmailadmin/vpopmail. I suspect some problem here for me. If there are two headers, how does a mail server (say running in a remote place in an intranet) identify to whom it is sent to ? Or is it "legal" to have more than one delivered-to header ? ksamy -Original Message- From: PPPindia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ? Setup: LAN, Redhat 6.1, qmail, vpopmail/vchkpw, Mailman list software Default domain : sanshri.com, Virtual domain : ppp.com Mailman list is configured for the virtual domain ppp.com Problem : Two Delivered-To headers are being generated - one addressed to the alias, and the other with the actual destination address - the mailman list owner address. (see below) I am having this problem not only in this case, but also when i manually create an alias in the default domain sanshri.com So far i have never been able to create an alias entry without the mail having two delivered-to headers ? I do not have this problem when i create an alias through qmailadmin/vpopmail. The alias setup for the virtual domain is as follows : - In /domains/ppp.com/.qmail-pppshar | preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post pppshar In .qmail-default the vdelivermail is called... and the default line put by vpopmail is there undisturbed in /var/qmail/users/assign Headers : Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 1040 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Received: from unknown (HELO sanshri.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 12:02:28 - Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 986 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Received: from unknown (HELO ppp) (192.168.0.3) by 192.168.0.15 with SMTP; 4 May 2000 11:57:05 - Message-ID: 003f01bfb5be$ddd1ef80$0300a8c0@ppp From: "listc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - What could be the problem here ? I want only one Delivered-To header in the messages. Please help ksamy ++ PPPshar- Internet for your LAN with one Internet account netMailshar -Email for every desktop with one 'Net account. MailAssistant - Speaking Email Notifier GetAgain - resume interrupted downloads. Visit http://www.pppindia.com/software ++
Re: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are two headers, how does a mail server (say running in a remote place in an intranet) identify to whom it is sent to ? Or is it "legal" to have more than one delivered-to header ? There can be as many Delivered-To fields as necessary. What's "illegal" is two identical Delivered-To fields, which means a message is looping. -Dave
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 04 May 2000: So what? Do you have a quota on the number of times tailocal can be run? I'm not the person asking the question, but I'm guessing that the annoyance factor of having to do tailocal logfile | less instead of less logfile is quite high. I wonder if there is some automagical solution that could be used with lessopen.sh, or something else? It's of course possible to create an alias or whatever, but that also has an annoyance factor greater than the simplest form, since you'd need to use a separate command for the mail logs. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / "Youth has nothing to do with age; it's all about attitude." -- MIMP
Re: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
Dave Sill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are two headers, how does a mail server (say running in a remote place in an intranet) identify to whom it is sent to ? Or is it "legal" to have more than one delivered-to header ? There can be as many Delivered-To fields as necessary. What's "illegal" is two identical Delivered-To fields, which means a message is looping. -Dave But only one delivered-to is generated if i use vpopmail ! If i create an alias .qmail-alias by myself from the command line i have this two deliv.to header problem ? In my case, there is only one message to a single recipient. But the Delivered header shows - one to recipient and other delivered-to to list address !! Otherwise, is it possible to config. qmail so that only one delivered-to (that of final recipient) is generated ? I have seen so many headers of the mails generated by qmail from different providers and i don't see two delivered-to headers there ? I am confused now. ksamy
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Mikko Hänninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there is some automagical solution that could be used with lessopen.sh, or something else? It's of course possible to create an alias or whatever, but that also has an annoyance factor greater than the simplest form, since you'd need to use a separate command for the mail logs. How about a "less" wrapper that looks for filenames of the form @[0-9]+ and passes them through tailocal? -Dave
RE: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
OK.. How about this example. 1) You have an alias /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-ppp (in this file you have [EMAIL PROTECTED]). 2) You also have an alias /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-pppindia (in this file you have [EMAIL PROTECTED]). 3) you have /home/ksamy/ as your real account. An email is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The mail gets delivered to ppp (then the Delivered-To: ppp header is added). qmail then sends this to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). When the mail gets to pppindia another Delivered-To header is added (because it was delivered to pppindia). Then the mail gets sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] where a third header is added (Delivered-To: ksamy@localhost) Does this clear it up ? The gist of it is, whenever qmail delivers a piece of mail (be it to a real account or a .qmail alias) it adds a delivered-to header to suppress mail loops. Matt Soffen Web Intranet Developer http://www.iso-ne.com/ == Boss- "My boss says we need some eunuch programmers." Dilbert - "I think he means UNIX and I already know UNIX." Boss- "Well, if the company nurse comes by, tell her I said never mind." - Dilbert - == -Original Message- From: PPPindia [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:24 PM To: Dave Sill Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ? Dave Sill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there are two headers, how does a mail server (say running in a remote place in an intranet) identify to whom it is sent to ? Or is it "legal" to have more than one delivered-to header ? There can be as many Delivered-To fields as necessary. What's "illegal" is two identical Delivered-To fields, which means a message is looping. -Dave But only one delivered-to is generated if i use vpopmail ! If i create an alias .qmail-alias by myself from the command line i have this two deliv.to header problem ? In my case, there is only one message to a single recipient. But the Delivered header shows - one to recipient and other delivered-to to list address !! Otherwise, is it possible to config. qmail so that only one delivered-to (that of final recipient) is generated ? I have seen so many headers of the mails generated by qmail from different providers and i don't see two delivered-to headers there ? I am confused now. ksamy
Re: Two Delivered-To headers - Why ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But only one delivered-to is generated if i use vpopmail ! So what? That means vpopmail deliveries only take a single delivery. Some deliveries require two, three, ... If i create an alias .qmail-alias by myself from the command line i have this two deliv.to header problem ? In my case, there is only one message to a single recipient. That's irrelevant to the number of delivery hops. But the Delivered header shows - one to recipient and other delivered-to to list address !! List address? You mean the message was "delvered" to a list alias, then "delivered" to the recipient? And you're suprised there are two Delivered-To fields? Otherwise, is it possible to config. qmail so that only one delivered-to (that of final recipient) is generated ? No, that would defeat the loop detection function of the Delivered-To header. I think you just need to relax. Multiple Delivered-To headers are normal. -Dave
Re: Smtp-poplock
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Bert Beaudin wrote: Hello all Has anyone been able to get smtp-poplock to work with the following configuration qmail-1.03 tcpserv qpopper mbox to ~/Mailbox From the doc I must run qmail and tcpserv under supervise. Currently I start qmail and tcpserv from one of my rc.d scripts. Any ideas or pointers? Thanks Bert Beaudin I have it in a number of locations. If you're using qpopper 2.53 you need to apply a patch, if you're using 3.0 I haven't done it yet. In a nutshell here's what you want to do: 1) patch qpopper 2) install smtp-poplock 3) add the text from the readme in the qpopper patch to smtp-poplock.conf 4) modify your startup line for qmail-smtpd 5) start it all up. Drop me a note offline if you have any problems. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com ==
Alias file
Hi :), I have several questions I have an /var/spool/mail/alias file that is getting bigger and bigger each moment, what it's is purpose?, I have taken a lookt at it and it seems that the messages double bouncing are stored there... how can I directly throw those messages to /dev/null?, thanks in advance. Mario Rafael e-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second...
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:50:24PM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: In all my qmail installations it often takes forever to shutdown or restart qmail. I'm getting the message: "qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second..." $ grep 'needs more time' daemontools-0.61/* qmail-1.03/* ucspi-tcp-0.88/* $ Well, whatever it is, it's not a message coming from any relevant qmail or associated program. This message (and the probably source of the problem) is coming from something specific to your shutdown procedure or possibly the rpm. You'll need to find out what is generating that message and look at it. Regards. which keeps repeating for sometimes 1/2 or a whole hour. Longer when the mail queue is large. Like, right now it has been about 1.5 hours on one machine which has about 250,000 messages waiting in the queue. I'm not quite sure what program is giving the message. I'm on RedHat6.2, I'm using ucspi-tcp and daemon tools. My qmail is from qmail-1.03-102memphis.src.rpm. I restart qmail with: /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail.init restart Am I doing something wrong, or this how it is supposed to be? And, if so, is there a faster way of shutting down qmail? This same thing will happen if I need to reboot the server. It might be delayed for 1 hour or so, waiting for qmail to shut down. Nothing is being sent while qmail "needs more time". The remote processes die out pretty quickly. Help! - Flemming
PLEASE HELP! Messages stop getting delivered
Did not receive any responses to my previous message. Trying again. Desperately need some pointers. Thanks, -- Ashish P. Narvekar email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Narvekar, Ashish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Messages stop getting delivered I am not the system administrator for qmail or Cyrus and am a newbie to qmail so bear with any incorrect statements. I tried to look up the FAQs for qmail but did not find anything specific to this problem. We have been seeing a strange problem with mail not being delivered to the mailbox. We have qmail (release 1.03) mail transfer agent running on a linux box. Mail is delivered to Cyrus (IMAP v1.5.14) using the following command |preline -f /usr/cyrus/bin/deliver -a sb -e sb We have an application that listens to the mailboxes on the Cyrus server using the javamail API. We have situations where more than one application program may be listening to the same mailbox at the same time. We run into a situation about once in every two days or so where mail does not get delivered to the mailboxes. The qmail logs don't give any error messages. We see that qmail is trying to deliver messages but there is no notification of successfuly delivery. The imap server is fine though because we can still process existing emails. Only new messages encounter this. At this point, our system administrators just give up and reboot both qmail and Cyrus. Once the servers are rebooted, all the messages appear correctly in the mailbox (even the new ones that seemed to be hung somewhere). Has anybody faced this problem before? I know this might not be a qmail problem but does anybody have any ideas as to what might be going on? Is it possible that multiple clients accessing the same mailbox is somehow causing this problem? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Ashish P. Narvekar email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PLEASE HELP! Messages stop getting delivered
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:59:12PM -0400, Narvekar, Ashish wrote: Did not receive any responses to my previous message. Trying again. Desperately need some pointers. You need to provide log information if you want anyone to help. Paraphrasing the problem thusly: not get delivered to the mailboxes. The qmail logs don't give any error messages. We see that qmail is trying to deliver messages but there is no notification of successfuly delivery. The imap server is fine though because we can still process existing emails. Only new messages encounter this. At Provides no information. How do you know that qmail is trying to deliver? Why not show us this? How do you know that the delivery is successful? Show us? this point, our system administrators just give up and reboot both qmail and Cyrus. Once the servers are rebooted, all the messages appear correctly in the mailbox (even the new ones that seemed to be hung somewhere). Has anybody faced this problem before? I know this might not be a qmail problem but does anybody have any ideas as to what might be going on? Is it possible that multiple clients accessing the same mailbox is somehow causing this problem? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. If you're not the mail admin and it's all new to you and your only resource is this mailing list, you might want to seek commercial help. Regards.
hack for filtering i love you worm
#!/usr/bin/python
#
# A quick hack to filter the ILOVEYOU worm with qmail. Use:
#
# $ cp qmail-filter.py /var/qmail/bin
# $ cd /var/qmail/bin
# $ chmod +x qmail-filter.py
# $ mv qmail-queue qmail-queue-real; ln -s qmail-filter.py qmail-queue
#
# Test:
#
# $ echo "test 1" | mail -s okay myself
# $ echo "test 2" | mail -s ILOVEYOU myself
#
# You might have to modify the Python path at the top. This is a
# temporary fix. Remove it after the dust settles:
#
# $ cd /var/qmail/bin
# $ mv qmail-queue-real qmail-queue
#
# Neil Schemenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PATTERN = r"^Subject: ILOVEYOU\s*$"
QMAIL_QUEUE = "/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue-real"
import re
import string
import sys
import os
import tempfile
def mktemp():
for i in range(10):
tmp = tempfile.mktemp()
try:
fd = os.open(tmp, os.O_RDWR|os.O_CREAT|os.O_EXCL, 0700)
except OSError:
continue
file = os.fdopen(fd, "w+b")
os.unlink(tmp)
return file
return None
try:
mess = mktemp()
if not mess:
os._exit(53) # write error
header = 1
while 1:
line = sys.stdin.readline()
if not line:
break
if line in ("\r\n", "\n"):
header = 0
if header and re.search(PATTERN, line):
os._exit(31) # blocked, permanent error
mess.write(line)
mess.flush()
mess.seek(0)
os.dup2(mess.fileno(), 0)
os.execv(QMAIL_QUEUE, ())
except:
os._exit(81) # internal error
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
For anyone using this filter, i'd like to hear feedback before i modify a production server. Also, should this interfere with vmailmgr? On Thu, 4 May 2000, Neil Schemenauer wrote: ___ _ __ _ __ /___ ___ /__ John Gonzalez/Net.Tech __ __ \ __ \ __/_ __ `__ \/ __ /_ ___/ MDC Computers/netMDC! _ / / / `__/ /_ / / / / / / /_/ / / /__ (505)437-7600/fax-437-3052 /_/ /_/\___/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__,_/ \___/ http://www.netmdc.com [-[system info]---] 4:05pm up 100 days, 23:02, 7 users, load average: 0.06, 0.59, 0.64
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 04:08:40PM -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote: For anyone using this filter, i'd like to hear feedback before i modify a production server. Also, should this interfere with vmailmgr? Its not too efficient so a C version of would be better on a high volume mail server. I don't know what vmailmgr it shouldn't cause a problem. The qmail-queue interface is very simple. Updated versions of this script will appear here: http://www.enme.ucalgary.ca/~nascheme/qmail-filter.py I have only tested it on my machine so I would be interested in feedback as well. Neil -- "Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it." -- Alan Perlis
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 04:08:40PM -0600, John Gonzalez/netMDC admin wrote:
For anyone using this filter, i'd like to hear feedback before i modify a
production server. Also, should this interfere with vmailmgr?
If you are using qmail patched with the QMAILQUEUE patch, you can use
qmail-qfilter and the following two scripts to achieve the same effect.
I am using this on two production servers (firewalls, actually), and it
should have no impact on vmailmgr or vpopmail.
Save the following as /path/love-filter:
#!/usr/bin/perl
# Header scan
while() {
exit(31) if /^Subject:\s*ILOVEYOU\s*$/o;
print;
last if /^\s*$/o;
}
# Body scan
while() {
exit(31) if /name="LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs"/o;
print;
}
Save the following as /path/smtpd-queue:
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/qmail-qfilter /path/love-filter
Then add the following to the end of every line in smtpd.rules and
rebuild the smtpd.cdb file:
,QMAILQUEUE="/path/smtpd-queue"
(Replace "/path" with some appropriate path to where you want the
scripts to go).
--
Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://em.ca/~bruceg/
Re: Problems using qmail on very large site
Yuan, In my case, I changed both (rlim_fd_max and rlim_fd_cur to 2048 and 1024 respectively). After reboot my machines I don't received more messages like that. By the way, my concurrency remote is set to 255. So, I believe that for your case (50) this set (2048) should work fine too. I suggest that you try change just the rlim_fd_max, because I think that change rlim_fd_cur is unnecessary or, even (I still couldn't try decrease it like I said that I will), cause that problem that originate all this discussion: a lot of defunct process running in my machine ! But in my case, like I said, I'm using Solaris 2.6 and not 2.7 like you Regards, Claudio Is this caused by rlim_fd_max too small? Sincerely, Yuan Yuan, For change the current and max number of file descriptors in Solaris 2.6 (in 2.7 I think is the same but I'm not sure), you need add two entries in your /etc/system file: set rlim_fd_cur=1024 set rlim_fd_max=2048 and you MUST reboot your machine in order to changes take effect. To see if everythings works, try to use the command ulimit -a before and after the modifications. Unfortanately the max number of file descriptors wouldn't be showed, just the current will (open files parameter). Hope this helps. Regards, Claudio
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:31:04PM -0600, Neil Schemenauer wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 04:21:45PM -0600, Bruce Guenter wrote: If you are using qmail patched with the QMAILQUEUE patch, you can use qmail-qfilter and the following two scripts to achieve the same effect. QMAILQUEUE is nicer but I think a lot of admins are not using this patch and want a quick fix. Do you have any ideas on filtering this with standard qmail? When you compile qmail-qfilter, define the C symbol QMAIL_QUEUE to some other path. Move the real qmail-queue to that path, and install a script that calls qmail-qfilter as qmail-queue, and use the previously posted love-filter script. That's the only other way I can think of. -- Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://em.ca/~bruceg/
Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems
some rdbms systems have the ability to snapshot the database and do a hot backup of the database. while that specifically does not answer the question of how to backup, if you stored all your email in the database somehow, you would be able to take advantage of the rdbms facilities for hot backup and not have to reinvent the wheel. shag - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Tracy R Reed" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 4 May 2000 9:02 Subject: Re: Backing up HUGE Maildir systems On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 01:14:25AM -0700, Tracy R Reed wrote: Anyone have any tips on how to effeciently backup Maildir systems with millions of files? I am pondering switching the company mail server over to Maildir. It's a very large and busy system. We have had situations before where there were millions of files to be backed up which took many days or perhaps even Above and beyond the comments of the other people wrt whether it's worth backing up in this way, I'm told that something like the dump command may more efficiently deal with large numbers of small files because it forks off multiple processes rather than serializes as other products/programs may do. Then again, many millions of file system lookup are probably going to hose your system for a long long time. Regards.
Re: qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second...
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 02:50:24PM -0700, Flemming Funch wrote: In all my qmail installations it often takes forever to shutdown or restart qmail. I'm getting the message: "qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second..." which keeps repeating for sometimes 1/2 or a whole hour. Longer when the mail queue is large. This is from the SysV init scripts for qmail. What I do: /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail stop ctrl-Z bg killall qmail-remote (watch out, killall might not do what you want on non-linux systems!) Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
multiple rcpt patch idea etc
Dave Kitabjian wrote: Regarding: http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#multi-rcpt Dave S, I'm having trouble accepting this logic. You mention 3 options: "Say you're an MTA, and one of your users sends a message to three people on hostx.example.com. There are several ways you could do this. 1. You could open an SMTP connection to hostx, send a copy of the message to the first user, send a copy to the second user, send a copy to the third user, then close the connection. 2. You could start three processes, each of which opens an SMTP connection to hostx, sends a copy of the message to one of the users, then closes the connection. 3. You could open an SMTP connection to host, send a copy of the message addressed to all three users, then close the connection. " and that qmail uses option #2. Clearly, the rank of efficiency is, from best to worst,: 3, 1, 2 You have analyzed the situation (or part of it at least) correctly. Thing is, Dan optimized for SECURITY not EFFICIENCY. There exists or may exist a class of broken MTA which cannot process multiple receipts correctly; or which leaks bcc information during a multiple receipt. I wrote some code that pre-invokes qmail-remote, feel free to give me credit when you use it, it is at http://www.davidnicol.com/qmail.html and I will be revising is as needed (into its own file most likely) Before I patch qmail-smtpd to do essentially that preprocess when there are multiple recipients, instead of whatever it normally does, somebody talk me out of it? My thought is, if mail only gets into the queue after it has been attempted once, then mail in the queue has already failed at least once and properly should be attempted in trickles. And also Chris Hardie writes: Clearly it's a complicated issue, but it seems that as broadband access to the net becomes more common, businesses are going to expect to be able to use one "interface" to do all their communications, be it plain text messages or large multi-megabyte file transfers. I cringe every time someone sends me a 7 MB mail message, but it's difficult to explain to them why this is a bad idea. I'd be interested to hear if anyone's found a good general solution to this in a production/business environment. One approach might be to rig the MTA to unpack attachments, give them unique and secret file names, store them in per-user directories where a http server on the MTA host can see them (but not server directory indexes) and replace the attachments with links to the files. This would have the effect of server-side-selecting the "view attachments as links" option present in some MUAs. Fine-grained administrative control could be asserted over how much space in e-mail attachments you may have before the last used gets cleared to make space, and so forth. This is what Scott Gifford suggested, although he wanted to add password-protection instead of giving unique, random file names. __ David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Lord Macbeth knew he was approaching the SITE of the rout from the SIGHT of odd body parts scattered on the blasted heath."
VMS mail.mai files?
Anyone got any .mai conversion tools? __ David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Lord Macbeth knew he was approaching the SITE of the rout from the SIGHT of odd body parts scattered on the blasted heath."
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
exit(31) if /name="LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs"/o; Am I missing something here? Anyone can rename that .vbs to what ever they want and send it around again so wouldn't it be more efficient to filter all .vbs attachments? Before some one yells "We trade vbs files" zip them up and send away. Same with executables. If someone is dumb enough to run an exe from any source before scanning it I don't think they will be winzip users so filtering an exe is not out of the question either. It seems we MUST protect the aol user types from themselves so we don't get hurt by their careless actions. Other times it was "so what it is just newbies getting burned" but not this time. Not when we lag servers to their knees. Comments not flames accepted ;) Rick
ETRN and QMail
I have heard of a patch or program that can help me support clients that use ETRN. Can somebody point me to the sources? Thanks, Jose de Leon System Administrator InVision Telecommunications (209) 549-8800
qmail abuse...
I suspect someone is sending bulk mail using our qmail server, as we are =getting a lot of rebounced mail and delivery failure notice.How can I stop that or tracking the real sender?Luke
Re: ETRN and QMail
I use the serialmail package from DJB. There's a file in the package that describes how to set-up AUTOTURN. Works like a champ. Not quite ETRN, but from what I can tell, enough of it's functionality to make Exchange servers happy. jon At 4:56 PM -0700 5/4/00, Jose de Leon wrote: I have heard of a patch or program that can help me support clients that use ETRN. Can somebody point me to the sources? Thanks, Jose de Leon System Administrator InVision Telecommunications (209) 549-8800
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
Don't forget - this is a general problem - you need an antivirus solution. You can try my scan4virus anti-virus harness. Specifically written for Qmail. Capable of multi-scanner support and will FEED YOUR CAT! :-) [I used it's perlscanner interface to match on the attachment filename while waiting for the Antivirus vendors to come up with an "official" fix :-)] See http://www.geocities.com/jhaar/scan4virus/ -- Cheers Jason Haar Unix/Network Specialist, Trimble NZ Phone: +64 3 9635 377 Fax: +64 3 9635 417
db files for vpopmail and courier imap
Hello, Is there a limitation for the amount of users courier imap and vpopmail can support using the db type files? Is it better to go with an sql database instead? Thanks, Cono.
Re: ETRN and QMail
Thanks Jon for the suggestion. I looked at AutoTURN. It won't work for us as we don't want to provide a static IP to this customer. As far as I can tell, all I really need to do is get the clients IP address when logged in somehow, and then initiate maildir2smtp while they are online. Jose de Leon System Administrator InVision Telecommunications (209) 549-8800 - Original Message - From: Jon Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose de Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: Re: ETRN and QMail I use the serialmail package from DJB. There's a file in the package that describes how to set-up AUTOTURN. Works like a champ. Not quite ETRN, but from what I can tell, enough of it's functionality to make Exchange servers happy. jon At 4:56 PM -0700 5/4/00, Jose de Leon wrote: I have heard of a patch or program that can help me support clients that use ETRN. Can somebody point me to the sources? Thanks, Jose de Leon System Administrator InVision Telecommunications (209) 549-8800
qmailqueue install prob
I applied the patch, did a make... so far so good. Then I stopped
qmail (qmail-ctl stop) and
mail:/usr/local/src/qmail-1.03{36} # make setup check
( ( ./compile tryrsolv.c ./load tryrsolv dns.o ipalloc.o ip.o \
stralloc.a alloc.a error.a fs.a str.a -lresolv `cat socket.lib` ) \
/dev/null 21 echo -lresolv || exit 0 ) dns.lib
rm -f tryrsolv.o tryrsolv
./install
install: fatal: unable to write .../bin/qmail-queue: text busy
*** Error code 111
Stop.
Hrmf. Anyhelp for this non-programmer-type?
jon
Re: qmailqueue install prob
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:24:59PM -0700, Jon Rust wrote: [snip] Hrmf. Anyhelp for this non-programmer-type? Something was still busy injecting mail thru qmail-queue. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
Re: ETRN and QMail
At 5:33 PM -0700 5/4/00, Jose de Leon wrote: Thanks Jon for the suggestion. I looked at AutoTURN. It won't work for us as we don't want to provide a static IP to this customer. As far as I can tell, all I really need to do is get the clients IP address when logged in somehow, and then initiate maildir2smtp while they are online. You could set-up a separate port for them. For example make tcpserver listen on port 1025 and run the AutoTURN stuff from there. It would be their own private port, so the AutoTURN script could be dedicated to them. I guess what i'm saying is that it's possible to do this with a dynamic IP. :-) jon
Re: qmailqueue install prob
At 2:35 AM +0200 5/5/00, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 05:24:59PM -0700, Jon Rust wrote: [snip] Hrmf. Anyhelp for this non-programmer-type? Something was still busy injecting mail thru qmail-queue. Ahhh... I see. Gotta wait longer after telling qmail to stop. :-) Gotcha. Thanks, jon
Re: The I love you virus .. and content based filtering
Hi, try my crude script. http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1999/07/msg00518.html cheers noel -Original Message- From: Nicolas MONNET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 5 May 2000 0:44 Subject: The "I love you virus" .. and content based filtering Lusers are stupid, and it's a shame that we have to do this, but ... to stop the plague before things get too nasty, we need to filter that bloody "I love you" worm. Is there any way to quickly (and dirtily) implement that in qmail? I'm not looking for a permanent solution, just a quick workaround that I'll get rid off later.
Re: ETRN and QMail
At 2:43 AM +0200 5/5/00, Peter van Dijk wrote: So much for security, eh? Hrmf. You have apoint there. :-/ Guess I should think before typing. Of course, by limiting the range of IPs allowed to trigger the download, you could decrease the exposure, but it would be far from perfect. (crawling back into lurk mode) jon
Global filtering
Greetings, I am relatively new to qmail, so forgive me if this is too simple... With all of the current goings on about the "luv bug", I have a question concerning qmail and filtering. My customer base uses sendmail primarily, while I have been experimenting with qmail at my site. With the sendmail sites I was able to implement a configuration "hack" to stop initial instances of the message. I was also able to implement a global procmail filter to accomplish the same thing. My question is this: Does qmail have the ability to implement global filters. I know that I can put procmail lines in each users .qmail file, but that seems like alot of work. Thanks in advance, - Bennett
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) And can't you look at them by passing them through tai64nlocal each time? Can you spell "shell script wrapper"? :) Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Re: qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second...
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Flemming Funch wrote: In all my qmail installations it often takes forever to shutdown or restart qmail. I'm getting the message: "qmail needs more time to finish. Sleeping 1 second..." Looks like you are using Harald Hanche-Olsen's startup script. It waits for qmail-send to die and gives messages like that quoted above when qmail-send doesn't die quickly. qmail-send won't die until all of its children have died. So, if you are still delivering some messages via qmail-remote and/or qmail-local, qmail-send will wait until these processes have finished. If they are delivering BIG messages, that can take quite some time. As others have suggested. If you really want to kill all the qmail processes, send qmail-send a SIGTERM and then send all running qmail-remote and qmail-local processes a SIGTERM. Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 11:56:47 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) And can't you look at them by passing them through tai64nlocal each time? Can you spell "shell script wrapper"? :) Except I don't usually look at those log files by starting up a new instance of some program; I usually look at them by calling them into a buffer in an already-running instance of an editor. -- Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon Bookworms: http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
On Thu, 4 May 2000, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 11:56:47 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) And can't you look at them by passing them through tai64nlocal each time? Can you spell "shell script wrapper"? :) Except I don't usually look at those log files by starting up a new instance of some program; I usually look at them by calling them into a buffer in an already-running instance of an editor. And you editor can't read in the results of a program? Regards Peter -- Peter Samuel[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultantor at present: eServ. Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 2 9206 3410 Fax: +61 2 9281 1301 "If you kill all your unhappy customers, you'll only have happy ones left"
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 13:52:17 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 11:56:47 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) And can't you look at them by passing them through tai64nlocal each time? Can you spell "shell script wrapper"? :) Except I don't usually look at those log files by starting up a new instance of some program; I usually look at them by calling them into a buffer in an already-running instance of an editor. And you editor can't read in the results of a program? I can think offhand of a couple of ways of doing it, but all of them are grossly inefficient and take lots of keystrokes. There may well be an easy way I'm overlooking, too. Nothing exotic, I'm an emacs user. I'm not starting a new instance, I'm visiting the log file from my existing instance. -- Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon Bookworms: http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accustamp|tailocal|matchup
Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 13:52:17 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 11:56:47 +1000 On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote: Why not just store the logs in there accustamp or multilog form and convert them to localtime ONLY when you need to look at them. Because we look at them too often :) And can't you look at them by passing them through tai64nlocal each time? Can you spell "shell script wrapper"? :) Except I don't usually look at those log files by starting up a new instance of some program; I usually look at them by calling them into a buffer in an already-running instance of an editor. And you editor can't read in the results of a program? I can think offhand of a couple of ways of doing it, but all of them are grossly inefficient and take lots of keystrokes. There may well be an easy way I'm overlooking, too. Nothing exotic, I'm an emacs user. I'm not starting a new instance, I'm visiting the log file from my existing instance. -- Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon Bookworms: http://ouroboros.demesne.com/ SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that this discussion has come to the point where you are both right and it's just a matter preference. Let it rest before flame starts flying around. JES
Rejecting emails
Hi. I wanted to reject email with macthing words in the Subject. This triggered me because of the ILOVEYOU email. Anyways, I was able to do it using procmail and qmail. I saw it in the FAQ. But I've got a different qmail setup. My qmail is configured as an email gateway. So, there are no users on my qmail servers. So, how do I solve this problem? Thanks in advance! Ronneil
Re: hack for filtering i love you worm
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 07:28:32PM -0400, Searcher wrote: exit(31) if /name="LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs"/o; Am I missing something here? Anyone can rename that .vbs to what ever they want and send it around again so wouldn't it be more efficient to filter all .vbs attachments? Nope, you're exactly right. However, the question was, how do I filter the "ILOVEYOU" worm, and the above is a quick (and somewhat dirty) answer. If you know how to identify VBS source, with the absence of a MIME type, please tell us. I intend to do this for my employers, so I'm not just being facetious. -- Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://em.ca/~bruceg/
