RE: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[Gail Overton]

What is the link?

From: Bobbie Humphreys [mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 11:37 AM
To: greg
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

Have you tried Joni Erickson-Tada's web site for donating your chairs?
Bobbie

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

On Jul 30, 2017, at 9:27 PM, greg mailto:g...@eskimo.com>> 
wrote:
I'm surprised how hard it was to get rid of my old chair. Especially if you 
want a tax deduction slip. I would have love one as a kid just to play with the 
parts. GoCart
Greg
> I have 2 Old Electric Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out
> with age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> How do i go about it guys?   Im a Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[Bobbie Humphreys]

Have you tried Joni Erickson-Tada's web site for donating your chairs?
Bobbie 

"Be the change you want to see in the world". Gandhi

> On Jul 30, 2017, at 9:27 PM, greg  wrote:
> 
> I'm surprised how hard it was to get rid of my old chair. Especially if you 
> want a tax deduction slip. I would have love one as a kid just to play with 
> the parts. GoCart
> Greg
> 
> > I have 2 Old Electric Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out
> > with age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> > How do i go about it guys?   Im a Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[wheelchair]

Old wheelchair bases, make for great battle bot frames.  Check with a  
local/university and see if they have a robotics program.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2017 8:27:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I'm  surprised how hard it was to get rid of my old chair. Especially if 
you want a  tax deduction slip. I would have love one as a kid just to play 
with the  parts. GoCart
Greg


> I have 2 Old Electric  Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out
> with age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> How do i go about it  guys?   Im a  Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[wheelchair]

Check with an Independent Living Center in your area and see if they can  
remove them.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 7/30/2017 1:19:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
curlyle...@verizon.net writes:

 
I have 2 Old Electric  Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out with 
age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
How do i go about it guys?Im a Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[greg]

I'm surprised how hard it was to get rid of my old chair. Especially if you want a tax deduction slip. I would have love one as a kid just to play with the parts. GoCart
Greg
> I have 2 Old Electric Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out
> with age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> How do i go about it guys?   Im a Quad.

Re: [QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[Randy Anderson]

Hello,

I put my 1st use chair on the seat of my Polaris Ranger.. And then I use a
winch across the rollbar's above to set me in the seat..For the 2nd one, my
work comp people asked me to keep it for a while as a spare in case my  3rd
chair  goes kaput. But when it's time that one will be replacing the one in
the Ranger, just because it would be handier than the one that's in there
now..
I called the teacher that teaches robotics at our local high school but
didn't get any call back,, I'm assuming he's not interested. Because it's a
sip and puff chair I looked at giving it to  a charity that deals with  the
disabled  but they already had a pretty good inventory.

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:19 PM, DAVID LEWIS  wrote:

> I have 2 Old Electric Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out with
> age.  I have  to get them  out of my garage.
> How do i go about it guys?   Im a Quad.
>

[QUAD-L] Old worn out Electric Wheelchair disposal help

[DAVID LEWIS]

I have 2 Old Electric Wheelchairs  They both work but are worn out with age.  I 
have  to get them  out of my garage.How do i go about it guys?   Im a Quad.

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[alcibiates2]

I know that many quads only break their necks and become quads, but some of us 
break a lot of things. I was hurt and had a severe head injury, a broken neck, 
back, several ribs, left arm and leg, spleen, fingers and nose. Arthritis 
became an issue after about 28 years post. I have to use a back brace because I 
have disc disintegrating disease or DDD. I get AD from just being positioned 
wrong.  I am not looking for sympathy.  I'm sick of that. I do know that other 
quads have similar problems and are fighting unseen pain with little help 
because they have lived so long. I've never met two quads exactly alike. The 
one thing that we do have in common is a desire to be treated with the same 
respect that so many people take for granted. I don't want pity, just a low air 
loss mattress that was promised to me last year. You can't spend pity.Best 
wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Don Price  
Date: 08/08/2015  11:01 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci 


I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things differently 
than most of those who have responded to this post.
I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to diving 
accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be the oldest 
living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the debilitating 
pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this to undermine 
their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.
I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person I 
meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody else. 
Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 
As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.
So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad can 
be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak for 
myself, but I know I'm not alone.
I wish you all health and happiness,
Don P C5-6, 33 yrs postTempe, AZ  

RE: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Joan Anglin]

Well said. I’m only 25 years but I agree with you, but there is no way I will 
ever be the oldest living quad with the longest time. But I still try to make 
each day a great one. And I am extremely thankful for all the technology that 
is now available, even though I cannot afford some of it. Joan 

 

From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:01 PM
To: Larry Willis; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

 

 

I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things differently 
than most of those who have responded to this post.

 

I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to diving 
accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be the oldest 
living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the debilitating 
pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this to undermine 
their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.

 

I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person I 
meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody else. 
Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 

 

As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.

 

So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad can 
be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak for 
myself, but I know I'm not alone.

 

I wish you all health and happiness,

 

Don P 

C5-6, 33 yrs post

Tempe, AZ

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Bryce Willis]

For the first 22 years of my Quadom, things went pretty well. No sores, no 
pain, no depression. Then on 7-14-93 I crashed head-on into a large maple tree. 
It broke me up pretty bad. Shattered my knees, my ankle, leg, messed up my 
hips..and basically put me at death's door for a few days. Wasn't 
pleasant. That was the beginning of the problems I have today. It was tolerable 
at first, but the last5-6 years have been awful. Doc told me this would happen. 
And he was right. Now I have some big decisions to make. Not good.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Michelle 
> Date: August 8, 2015 at 11:10:31 PM EDT
> To: Don Price 
> Cc: Larry Willis , "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
> 
> Thank you, Don :)
> 
> -Michelle 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Don Price  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things 
>> differently than most of those who have responded to this post.
>> 
>> I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to 
>> diving accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be 
>> the oldest living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the 
>> debilitating pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this 
>> to undermine their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.
>> 
>> I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
>> every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person 
>> I meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody 
>> else. Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 
>> 
>> As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
>> things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
>> realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
>> everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.
>> 
>> So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad 
>> can be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak 
>> for myself, but I know I'm not alone.
>> 
>> I wish you all health and happiness,
>> 
>> Don P 
>> C5-6, 33 yrs post
>> Tempe, AZ

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[shirley bell]

I have the same feeling and sounds like good health, no pain etc., as Don. I am 
c 5/6 ish maybe some 7 38 yrs post. I do find it harder mentally and some 
physical as I age. I have to fight not to get depressed over things I can't do 
as I see others who are able bodied doing all the fun things.and I  worry (A 
big one as we age) But I have a great husband and home I live in a great 
community and have  friends and good suport. So I can't complain too much. I 
does break my heart to hear of all the pain issues and sores etc. and I do 
understand some of it as I have had sores, sweating issues ect. I do have back 
pain but it is not too bad. I Ice it often when I get in bed and the Myofascial 
release deep tissue massage has helped me more than anything. Breathing, pain, 
NO sweating (2 yrs now) and I am finally 90%  straighter. I took 2 yrs of 
therapy but it was many years of getting this way. Anyway, like Don, I hope 
this helps some young quads.
Kind regards,
Shirley Bell

www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Price 
  To: Larry Willis ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci




  I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things 
differently than most of those who have responded to this post.


  I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to 
diving accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be the 
oldest living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the 
debilitating pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this to 
undermine their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.


  I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person I 
meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody else. 
Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 


  As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.


  So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad 
can be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak for 
myself, but I know I'm not alone.


  I wish you all health and happiness,


  Don P 
  C5-6, 33 yrs post
  Tempe, AZ

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Fragile]

Don, is there anything specific you've done over the years That you believe
has contributed to your lack of debilitating pain?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Don Price  wrote:

>
> I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things
> differently than most of those who have responded to this post.
>
> I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to
> diving accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be
> the oldest living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the
> debilitating pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this
> to undermine their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.
>
> I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful
> for every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every
> person I meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like
> everybody else. Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too
> old.
>
> As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and
> then things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That
> realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience
> everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.
>
> So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a
> quad can be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only
> speak for myself, but I know I'm not alone.
>
> I wish you all health and happiness,
>
> Don P
> C5-6, 33 yrs post
> Tempe, AZ
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Michelle]

Thank you, Don :)

-Michelle 



> On Aug 8, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Don Price  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things 
> differently than most of those who have responded to this post.
> 
> I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to 
> diving accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be 
> the oldest living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the 
> debilitating pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this 
> to undermine their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.
> 
> I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
> every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person I 
> meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody else. 
> Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 
> 
> As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
> things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
> realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
> everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.
> 
> So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad 
> can be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak 
> for myself, but I know I'm not alone.
> 
> I wish you all health and happiness,
> 
> Don P 
> C5-6, 33 yrs post
> Tempe, AZ

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Don Price]

I'm writing this for any new quads on the list because I see things differently 
than most of those who have responded to this post.
I will be 33 years post injury on August 15th--C5-6 complete quad due to diving 
accident. At this time I would love nothing more than to someday be the oldest 
living quad. I suppose I can say that because I don't have the debilitating 
pain or issues many on this list speak of. I'm not saying this to undermine 
their struggles--I know I'm very lucky.
I get up every day looking forward to the adventure ahead. I am thankful for 
every moment I have and I try to radiate that positive vibe to every person I 
meet. I don't always succeed, and I have bad days just like everybody else. 
Still, my greatest fear is dying too soon, not dying too old. 
As others have said here: they were fine living as quads for years and then 
things just fell apart. I know that is a possibility for me, too. That 
realization adds even greater urgency to every day--I want to experience 
everything I possibly can while I'm healthy.
So, for any new quads on this list, let me be testimony that life as a quad can 
be full, happy, active and rewarding, even after 33 years. I only speak for 
myself, but I know I'm not alone.
I wish you all health and happiness,
Don P C5-6, 33 yrs postTempe, AZ

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Larry Willis]

I feel the same way, Bobbie. Btw, my email accounts have somehow become 
confused. Some say Bryce (my son) and others say Melissa (my wife), but it's 
still me, Larry.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Gmail 
> Date: August 6, 2015 at 2:56:42 PM EDT
> To: Bryce Willis 
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
> 
> Bryce I TOTALY understand what your feeling and talking about.
> Soo many days I feel as thou I'm not living anymore ... just existing.
> I hurt so much EVERY SINGLE DAY.
> What kind of quality of life is THAT?
> 
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Bryce Willis  wrote:
>> 
>> Me too, Bobbie. When I wake up in the morning, I hurt so bad all over that I 
>> just don't think I can do it. Then I roll over on my back and the muscle 
>> spasms begin. They hurt like hell and take my breath away. When I am finally 
>> in my chair it takes a good two hours before I can function. Then fatigue 
>> hits me and I hang my head for another hour of sleep.if the pain has 
>> eased off. This is every dayevery stinking day. Then muddle through the 
>> day till bedtime, then do it all over again. Stinks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> From: Gmail 
>>> Date: August 5, 2015 at 9:38:35 PM EDT
>>> To: "John S." 
>>> Cc: Robert Vogel , Larry Willis , 
>>> "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
>>> 
>>> Me two John. I do NOT want to get even close. I'm ready to go to sleep 
>>> tonight and not wake up tomorrow. I'm ready.   Bobbie
>>> 
>>> Smile Everyday
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
>>>> Best Wishes, 
>>>> John s.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Robert Vogel  
>>>> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>> To: Gmail  
>>>> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
>>>> 
>>>> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about 
>>>> Lee Goldstein, 82 years old
>>>> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
>>>> Fantastic book!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bob Vogel
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Smile Everyday
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging 
>>>>>> with SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started 
>>>>>> in 1973 to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says 
>>>>>> that in 1973 it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty 
>>>>>> years. Well well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Gmail]

Bryce I TOTALY understand what your feeling and talking about.
Soo many days I feel as thou I'm not living anymore ... just existing.
I hurt so much EVERY SINGLE DAY.
What kind of quality of life is THAT?


Smile Everyday

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Bryce Willis  wrote:
> 
> Me too, Bobbie. When I wake up in the morning, I hurt so bad all over that I 
> just don't think I can do it. Then I roll over on my back and the muscle 
> spasms begin. They hurt like hell and take my breath away. When I am finally 
> in my chair it takes a good two hours before I can function. Then fatigue 
> hits me and I hang my head for another hour of sleep.if the pain has 
> eased off. This is every dayevery stinking day. Then muddle through the 
> day till bedtime, then do it all over again. Stinks.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> From: Gmail 
>> Date: August 5, 2015 at 9:38:35 PM EDT
>> To: "John S." 
>> Cc: Robert Vogel , Larry Willis , 
>> "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
>> 
>> Me two John. I do NOT want to get even close. I'm ready to go to sleep 
>> tonight and not wake up tomorrow. I'm ready.   Bobbie
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
>>> Best Wishes, 
>>> John s.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Robert Vogel  
>>> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>> To: Gmail  
>>> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
>>> 
>>> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
>>> 
>>> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about 
>>> Lee Goldstein, 82 years old
>>> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
>>> Fantastic book!!!
>>> 
>>> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Bob Vogel
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>>>> 
>>>> Smile Everyday
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>>>>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 
>>>>> 1973 to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that 
>>>>> in 1973 it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>> 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Bryce Willis]

Tomorrow at about 1:00 pm will be my 44th year as a quad. For me, it's a day 
that will live in infamy. (Sorry FDR)

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Danny Hearn 
> Date: August 5, 2015 at 6:21:46 PM EDT
> To: "John S." , Robert Vogel ,  Gmail 
> 
> Cc: Larry Willis ,  "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
> Reply-To: Danny Hearn 
> 
> I hear you John, I just hit my 18 year post accident date the other day on 
> August 3rd. from a car wreck. Some day's like today my aches-pains and body 
> feels like I imagine an 80 0r 90 year olds body would feel, I am 58 years old 
> now, but was paralyzed at age 40. Thank God there are days and nights that 
> are pretty good, We just got to take everything a day at a time and Try to 
> keep on keeping on. Dan H** St. Louis, MO. Area.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 4:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
> 
> 
> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
> Best Wishes, 
> John s.
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Robert Vogel  
> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Gmail  
> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
> 
> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
> 
> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
> Goldstein, 82 years old
> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
> Fantastic book!!!
> 
> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob Vogel
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 
>>> to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 
>>> it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Bryce Willis]

I sleep on my left side. Any other position is too painful. I use a lightly 
inflated donut for my hip.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gail Holmes 
> Date: August 5, 2015 at 11:41:55 PM EDT
> To: Bryce Willis 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
> 
> I'm just curious, do you sleep on your side? 
> You said you roll over on your back in the morning.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Bryce Willis  wrote:
>> 
>> Me too, Bobbie. When I wake up in the morning, I hurt so bad all over that I 
>> just don't think I can do it. Then I roll over on my back and the muscle 
>> spasms begin. They hurt like hell and take my breath away. When I am finally 
>> in my chair it takes a good two hours before I can function. Then fatigue 
>> hits me and I hang my head for another hour of sleep.if the pain has 
>> eased off. This is every dayevery stinking day. Then muddle through the 
>> day till bedtime, then do it all over again. Stinks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> From: Gmail 
>>> Date: August 5, 2015 at 9:38:35 PM EDT
>>> To: "John S." 
>>> Cc: Robert Vogel , Larry Willis , 
>>> "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
>>> 
>>> Me two John. I do NOT want to get even close. I'm ready to go to sleep 
>>> tonight and not wake up tomorrow. I'm ready.   Bobbie
>>> 
>>> Smile Everyday
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
>>>> Best Wishes, 
>>>> John s.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Robert Vogel  
>>>> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>>>> To: Gmail  
>>>> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
>>>> 
>>>> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about 
>>>> Lee Goldstein, 82 years old
>>>> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
>>>> Fantastic book!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bob Vogel
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Smile Everyday
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging 
>>>>>> with SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started 
>>>>>> in 1973 to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says 
>>>>>> that in 1973 it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty 
>>>>>> years. Well well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Bryce Willis]

Me too, Bobbie. When I wake up in the morning, I hurt so bad all over that I 
just don't think I can do it. Then I roll over on my back and the muscle spasms 
begin. They hurt like hell and take my breath away. When I am finally in my 
chair it takes a good two hours before I can function. Then fatigue hits me and 
I hang my head for another hour of sleep.if the pain has eased off. This is 
every dayevery stinking day. Then muddle through the day till bedtime, then 
do it all over again. Stinks.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Gmail 
> Date: August 5, 2015 at 9:38:35 PM EDT
> To: "John S." 
> Cc: Robert Vogel , Larry Willis , 
> "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci
> 
> Me two John. I do NOT want to get even close. I'm ready to go to sleep 
> tonight and not wake up tomorrow. I'm ready.   Bobbie
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
>> 
>> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
>> Best Wishes, 
>> John s.
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Robert Vogel  
>> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: Gmail  
>> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
>> 
>> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
>> 
>> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about 
>> Lee Goldstein, 82 years old
>> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
>> Fantastic book!!!
>> 
>> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Bob Vogel
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>>> 
>>> Smile Everyday
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>>>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 
>>>> to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 
>>>> it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry Willis
>>>> Retired and proud of it
>> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Gmail]

Me two John. I do NOT want to get even close. I'm ready to go to sleep tonight 
and not wake up tomorrow. I'm ready.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:29 PM, John S.  wrote:
> 
> I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. 
> Best Wishes, 
> John s.
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Robert Vogel  
> Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Gmail  
> Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 
> 
> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
> 
> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
> Goldstein, 82 years old
> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
> Fantastic book!!!
> 
> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob Vogel
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 
>>> to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 
>>> it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Danny Hearn]

I hear you John, I just hit my 18 year post accident date the other day on 
August 3rd. from a car wreck. Some day's like today my aches-pains and body 
feels like I imagine an 80 0r 90 year olds body would feel, I am 58 years old 
now, but was paralyzed at age 40. Thank God there are days and nights that are 
pretty good, We just got to take everything a day at a time and Try to keep on 
keeping on. Dan H** St. Louis, MO. Area. 


 On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 4:29 PM, John S.  
wrote:
   

 I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. Best Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Robert Vogel  
Date: 08/05/2015 3:51 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Gmail  
Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 

Hi Bobbie and Larry,
Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
Goldstein, 82 years oldand 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating 
the odds!!!  Fantastic book!!!
Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
Cheers,Bob Vogel

On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday


On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:

Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with SCI. 
It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 to track 
a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 it was not 
believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it







  

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[John S.]

I sure would hate to go near that record. God bless him. Best Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Robert Vogel  
Date: 08/05/2015  3:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Gmail  
Cc: Larry Willis , quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci 

Hi Bobbie and Larry,
Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
Goldstein, 82 years oldand 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating 
the odds!!!  Fantastic book!!!
Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/
Cheers,Bob Vogel
On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:

Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with SCI. 
It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 to track 
a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 it was not 
believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Robert Vogel]

Hi again all,

Oops, 69 years post injury C6/7 quad.  Although he refers to himself as a 
para/quad since he has some
hand movement.

Bob V

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Robert Vogel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bobbie and Larry,
> 
> Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
> Goldstein, 82 years old
> and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  
> Fantastic book!!!
> 
> Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/ 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Bob Vogel
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail > > wrote:
>> 
>> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 
>>> to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 
>>> it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Robert Vogel]

Hi Bobbie and Larry,

Check out this link to March, 2015 New Mobility—an article and link about Lee 
Goldstein, 82 years old
and 69 years post injury C6/7 para.  Talk about beating the odds!!!  Fantastic 
book!!!

Here is the link:  http://www.newmobility.com/2015/03/so-far-so-good/ 


Cheers,
Bob Vogel

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> 1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
>> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 
>> to track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 
>> it was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
>> 
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old sci

[Gmail]

1973 is when I had my accident. I'll be 60 this November. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 6:13 AM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with 
> SCI. It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 to 
> track a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 it 
> was not believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 

[QUAD-L] Old sci

[Larry Willis]

Hey peeps, New Mobility magazine has a very good article about aging with SCI. 
It looks at the Longevity Project, a research project started in 1973 to track 
a group of SCI folks through the years. It also says that in 1973 it was not 
believed possible for a quad to live forty years. Well well.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[diannal767]

my first email was returned but in it was a suggestion to ask your doctor to 
prescribe for you to have a port inserted. if your having a lot of pic lines. i 
have one for cancer. had chemo through it. rituxan infusion maintenance 
treatments.medical personal prefer them too.


-Original Message-
From: diannal767 
To: nlg52352 ; quad-list 
Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 10:09 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis


 
 i forgot to add, pray, pray, pray for strength and comfort...it works! i'm 
still in remission, he'll help you too <3
 
   
-Original Message-   
 From: diannal767
 To: nig52352 ; quad-list
 Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 10:02 pm   
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis   


 if your getting poked and need pic lines often, ask your doctor if he'll 
precribe a port. i have one for cancer. i get blood taken often and received 
chemo through it plus rituxan infusion maintenance through them. medical 
personal seem to prefer them too.  
 dianna   
   

 
 As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things wi 

 
 Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away. 

   
   
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: lindakrn <   linda...@comcast.net>
 To: Nan <   nlg52...@yahoo.com>
 Cc: quad-list <   quad-list@eskimo.com>
 Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 4:37 pm
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis


 
  
   

   
   
 Nan sounds like you are tired of fighting   
   
   
From: "Nan" <nlg52...@yahoo.com>
To: "quad-list" <quad-list@eskimo.com>    
        Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

 


 
  Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W.  It really helps to know that 
others understand what I'm going through.  My family just doesn't get it.   
  
 
  
  
 
 
  
  
   
  
 
 
  
   

  On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell 
 wrote:
 


 


 
  
   
Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. 
Please know I am pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirley
   
   
 Best,
 Shirley Bell   
   
 
   
www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com   
   

 - Original Message -

 From: Nan

 To: Quad-list Post

 Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:20 PM

 Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis   
 

 


 
 Yup ... getting old is no fun. 
 
  
 
 
 As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[diannal767]

i forgot to add, pray, pray, pray for strength and comfort...it works! i'm 
still in remission, he'll help you too <3


-Original Message-
From: diannal767 
To: nig52352 ; quad-list 
Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis


 if your getting poked and need pic lines often, ask your doctor if he'll 
precribe a port. i have one for cancer. i get blood taken often and received 
chemo through it plus rituxan infusion maintenance through them. medical 
personal seem to prefer them too.   
dianna   


  
As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things wi 
 
  
 Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away. 
 
   




-Original Message-
 From: lindakrn 
 To: Nan 
 Cc: quad-list 
 Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 4:37 pm
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis
 
 
  
   

 


 Nan sounds like you are tired of fighting


 From: "Nan" <nlg52...@yahoo.com> 
 To: "quad-list" <quad-list@eskimo.com> 
     Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:10:29 PM 
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis 
 
  
 
 
  
   Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W.  It really helps to know that others 
understand what I'm going through.  My family just doesn't get it.  
  
   
   
  
  
   
   

   
  
  
   

 
   On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell 
 wrote:
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
   

 Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. 
Please know I am pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirley


 Best, 
 Shirley Bell

  

 www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com

 
 - Original Message - 
 
  From:  Nan 
 
  To:  Quad-list Post 
 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:20 PM 
 
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis 
 
  
 
 
  
 Yup ... getting old is no fun.  
  
   
  
  
 As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things wi 
 
  
 Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I&#x

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[diannal767]

if your getting poked and need pic lines often, ask your doctor if he'll 
precribe a port. i have one for cancer. i get blood taken often and received 
chemo through it plus rituxan infusion maintenance through them. medical 
personal seem to prefer them too.
dianna


As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things wi 
   

Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away.





-Original Message-
From: lindakrn 
To: Nan 
Cc: quad-list 
Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis


 
  
   
  
  
Nan sounds like you are tired of fighting  
  
  
   From: "Nan"
   To: "quad-list"
   Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:10:29 PM   
   Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis   
   

   
   

 Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W.  It really helps to know that others 
understand what I'm going through.  My family just doesn't get it.

 



 
 
  
 


 
  
   
 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell  
wrote:

   
   

   
   

 
  
   Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. Please 
know I am pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirley  
  
Best,   
Shirley Bell  
  
   
  
   www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com  
  
   
- Original Message -   
   
From: Nan   
   
To: Quad-list Post   
   
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:20 PM   
   
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis   
   

   
   

Yup ... getting old is no fun.

 


As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things wi 
   

Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away.

 


I'm tired of fighting, of being hurt, of being patient.  My optimism is nearly 
a thing of the past.  I feel like I am hanging on by a thread...

 


So far, getting to be an old quad sucks ...

 

   
  
 



 

   
  
 

   
  
  
   
  
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[lindakrn]

Nan sounds like you are tired of fighting 
- Original Message -

From: "Nan"  
To: "quad-list"  
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:10:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis 

Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W. It really helps to know that others understand 
what I'm going through. My family just doesn't get it. 




On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell  wrote: 


Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. Please know I am 
pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirley 
Best, 
Shirley Bell 
www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com 



- Original Message - 
From: Nan 
To: Quad-list Post 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:20 PM 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis 

Yup ... getting old is no fun. 

As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down. The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down. Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards. 
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED. Got that under control. Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now. My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home! Feeling much better now. Hopefully things wi 
Things are not looking better... I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are. All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the Wound 
Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse. Tomorrow I get 
a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is horrible. I'm 
scared because PICC lines never go easy for me. I just want to run away. 

I'm tired of fighting, of being hurt, of being patient. My optimism is nearly a 
thing of the past. I feel like I am hanging on by a thread... 

So far, getting to be an old quad sucks ... 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[Larry Willis]

Nan, just know that your peeps on this list understand completely and offer our 
prayers and support in every way possible. Hang in there. I know it seems more 
than one person can possibly bear, but you have already proven your strength 
and determination. Now it is a matter of will power. In the words of Dylan 
Thomas: "Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of 
the light!"

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Nan 
> Date: July 14, 2015 at 8:10:29 PM EDT
> To: "quad-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis
> Reply-To: Nan 
> 
> Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W.  It really helps to know that others 
> understand what I'm going through.  My family just doesn't get it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. Please know I am 
> pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirley
> Best,
> Shirley Bell
>  
> www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
> - Original Message -
> From: Nan
> To: Quad-list Post
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:20 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis
> 
> Yup ... getting old is no fun.
> 
> As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months 
> have been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. 
> Spiraled downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up 
> septic ... vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the 
> whole 9 yards.  Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another 
> week in the hospital in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me 
> at 10PM to tell me to go to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my 
> knee while in during March, nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from 
> being in bed, so now I have 3 sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. 
> The Wound Care Clinic is beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better 
> now.  Hopefully things will start to look up now.".
> 
> Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg 
> where the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything 
> the Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
> Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation 
> is horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just 
> want to run away.
> 
> I'm tired of fighting, of being hurt, of being patient.  My optimism is 
> nearly a thing of the past.  I feel like I am hanging on by a thread...
> 
> So far, getting to be an old quad sucks ...
> 
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[Nan]

Thank you Shirley, Nicki and W.  It really helps to know that others understand 
what I'm going through.  My family just doesn't get it.
 


 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:08 PM, shirley bell  wrote:
   

  Oh Nan, I don't know what to say. Sounds beyond difficult. Please know I am 
pulling for you with prayer. It is SO hard, shirleyBest,
Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
 - Original Message -  From: Nan  To: Quad-list Post  Sent: Tuesday, 
July 14, 2015 5:20 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis 
  Yup ... getting old is no fun. 
 As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things will 
start to look up now.". 
 Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away. 
 I'm tired of fighting, of being hurt, of being patient.  My optimism is nearly 
a thing of the past.  I feel like I am hanging on by a thread... 
 So far, getting to be an old quad sucks ... 



  

[QUAD-L] Old Quad/Osteomyelitis

[Nan]

Yup ... getting old is no fun.
As I wrote earlier this summer, "...another year down.  The last 6 months have 
been fraught with medical problems ... 3+ weeks in ICU in December. Spiraled 
downhill after putting my dog down.  Didn't eat or drink - ended up septic ... 
vent, pic line, feeding tube, pull the plug discussions - the whole 9 yards.  
Don't remember much which I am very thankful for. Another week in the hospital 
in March - my potassium skyrocketed and they called me at 10PM to tell me to go 
to ED.   Got that under control.  Nurse smashed my knee while in during March, 
nice sore there now.  My legs got so thin from being in bed, so now I have 3 
sores on my left leg, one is down to the bone. The Wound Care Clinic is 
beginning to feel like home!  Feeling much better now.  Hopefully things will 
start to look up now.".
Things are not looking better...  I now have Osteomyelitis - my left leg where 
the sores are.  All are deep and look horrendous. I've done everything the 
Wound Care Clinic has told me to do, but they just keep getting worse.  
Tomorrow I get a PICC line and antibiotics ... the waiting and anticipation is 
horrible.  I'm scared because PICC lines never go easy for me.  I just want to 
run away.
I'm tired of fighting, of being hurt, of being patient.  My optimism is nearly 
a thing of the past.  I feel like I am hanging on by a thread...
So far, getting to be an old quad sucks ...

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[John S.]

Every time someone tells me I'm looking better or that I look good,  I chalk it 
up to one more idiot or someone's on the con. They're  either stupid or after 
something. Gees, I am an old cynic John s.

 Original message 
From: Quadius  
Date: 07/08/2015  9:04 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Dave Krehbiel  
Cc: RONALD L PRACHT , Quad-list Post 
 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old 

very well put Dave.  I have also noticed how someone recovers pretty nicely or 
gets a little more return than others it might be because of their faith. Don't 
they understand that it implies those of us in don't get better don't have 
faith or don't have strength of character.

Every time someone says I look better than most quads, I am quick to say I have 
a good support system. Not everyone can say that. I used to do more in the 
advocacy area, but over the last several years I haven't been healthy enough to 
do so. I'm hoping that I can get back to my old self. Right now I'm having a 
few bad days myself, but since my colostomy surgery I am doing a bit better 
than I was before.

Knock on wood.
Q

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel  
wrote:
Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, they are all 
different." I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a different 
injury than mine and much more support than I have is presented in the news as 
a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea that the reason this person 
is overcoming their difficulties is because of their strength of character and 
positive mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the rest of us 
just are not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude. The reality is: some 
of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody wants to see a story about 
that on television. Dave Krehbiel From: RONALD L PRACHT 
[mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. 
These special quads have learned the art of giving people what they want to see 
and hear and cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll 
model and receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is 
support...they have much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. 
The average quad just doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled 
community is more like I have it and you don't rather than helping every 
disabled individual get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about 
how things are dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth 
spending money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil. Ron  On 
Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote: They are faking 
it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!  

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Quadius]

very well put Dave.  I have also noticed how someone recovers pretty nicely
or gets a little more return than others it might be because of their
faith. Don't they understand that it implies those of us in don't get
better don't have faith or don't have strength of character.

Every time someone says I look better than most quads, I am quick to say I
have a good support system. Not everyone can say that. I used to do more in
the advocacy area, but over the last several years I haven't been healthy
enough to do so. I'm hoping that I can get back to my old self. Right now
I'm having a few bad days myself, but since my colostomy surgery I am doing
a bit better than I was before.

Knock on wood.
Q

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
wrote:

> Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, they are
> all different."
>
>
>
> I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a different injury than
> mine and much more support than I have is presented in the news as a role
> model. The TV show seem to present the idea that the reason this person is
> overcoming their difficulties is because of their strength of character and
> positive mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the rest of
> us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude.
>
>
>
> The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody
> wants to see a story about that on television.
>
>
>
> Dave Krehbiel
>
>
>
> *From:* RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
> *To:* Quad-list Post
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Old
>
>
>
> I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. These special quads
> have learned the art of giving people what they want to see and hear and
> cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll model and
> receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is
> support...they have much family, friends, checkbook, donations,
> caregivers. The average quad just doesn't have all that behind them and
> sadly the disabled community is more like I have it and you don't rather
> than helping every disabled individual get the support they need. There
> isn't anything fair about how things are dolled out to help the
> disabled.Its who you know, are you worth spending money on (Voc Rehab) and
> the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:
>
>
>
> They are faking it!
>
>
>
>
> > meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> > pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> > grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> > can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> > stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I have been to Faith church in earth city...I love that place, good 
vibes and pretty ladies. My home church was on Creve Coeur mill road called 
Grace Church formerly grace World outreach Center. its on the hill by Creve 
Coeur park. Many good times in my chair at church.
Ron 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:06 PM, Danny Hearn  
wrote:
   

 That's how I sit at my church in Bridgeton,Mo. Ron...I sit on either end and 
if i'm in the aisle too much, we just take out one of the detachable type 
chairs our church uses to help me fit in better, we have one or 2 others in 
chairs and a couple  that use walkers there. We visited friends at Faith Family 
church a few times in Earth City.Man that place is a mega church with 
several screens or the platform to watch and they had tons of room, i bet they 
could fit in a bus load of people in chairs, lol. 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 6:22 PM, RONALD L PRACHT 
 wrote:
   

 This large church I attended a few years back tried to make me sit in the 
"wheelchair" section of church so I could see better. I will not sit in any 
particular section due to my color or disability. I made sure to sit on the far 
end of the seats so I don't block anyones view. I ended up meeting a great girl 
there and we did many things together. If I would have sat in the wheelchair 
section I would have never met that girl. People need to understand that people 
using a chair have the same wants and needs as anyone else. We have the same 
human value as anyone else sucking air. 
Ron


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:03 PM, John S.  wrote:
   

 You' don't see many wheelchairs around truly successful churches.  And AIDS 
kills more straight people than gays. Splain God to me again.  I've always 
avoided anyone that thinks god takes an active roll in people's lives.  Best 
Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Gmail  
Date: 07/08/2015 3:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Danny Hearn  
Cc: Dave Krehbiel , RONALD L PRACHT 
, Quad-list Post  
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old 

My, Christian, Aunt told me when I was first injured "If you REALLY believe in 
God ... he would make me walk." I seriously wanted to tell her off but held my 
tongue.
Then years later her husband said "God created AIDS to get rid of gays." I 
couldn't hold my tough then.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Hearn  wrote:


What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but he 
was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried our 
rear ends off.  Dan H** 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
 wrote:
   

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snowflakes, they are all different."  I sometimes feel offended when some 
person who has a different injury than mine and much more support than I have 
is presented in the news as a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea 
that the reason this person is overcoming their difficulties is because of 
their strength of character and positive mental attitude and persistence. The 
implication is: the rest of us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad 
attitude.  The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But 
nobody wants to see a story about that on television.  Dave Krehbiel  From: 
RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Danny Hearn]

That's how I sit at my church in Bridgeton,Mo. Ron...I sit on either end and if 
i'm in the aisle too much, we just take out one of the detachable type chairs 
our church uses to help me fit in better, we have one or 2 others in chairs and 
a couple  that use walkers there. We visited friends at Faith Family church a 
few times in Earth City.Man that place is a mega church with several 
screens or the platform to watch and they had tons of room, i bet they could 
fit in a bus load of people in chairs, lol. 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 6:22 PM, RONALD L PRACHT 
 wrote:
   

 This large church I attended a few years back tried to make me sit in the 
"wheelchair" section of church so I could see better. I will not sit in any 
particular section due to my color or disability. I made sure to sit on the far 
end of the seats so I don't block anyones view. I ended up meeting a great girl 
there and we did many things together. If I would have sat in the wheelchair 
section I would have never met that girl. People need to understand that people 
using a chair have the same wants and needs as anyone else. We have the same 
human value as anyone else sucking air. 
Ron


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:03 PM, John S.  wrote:
   

 You' don't see many wheelchairs around truly successful churches.  And AIDS 
kills more straight people than gays. Splain God to me again.  I've always 
avoided anyone that thinks god takes an active roll in people's lives.  Best 
Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Gmail  
Date: 07/08/2015 3:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Danny Hearn  
Cc: Dave Krehbiel , RONALD L PRACHT 
, Quad-list Post  
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old 

My, Christian, Aunt told me when I was first injured "If you REALLY believe in 
God ... he would make me walk." I seriously wanted to tell her off but held my 
tongue.
Then years later her husband said "God created AIDS to get rid of gays." I 
couldn't hold my tough then.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Hearn  wrote:


What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but he 
was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried our 
rear ends off.  Dan H** 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
 wrote:
   

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{}#yiv2614105058 Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like 
snowflakes, they are all different."  I sometimes feel offended when some 
person who has a different injury than mine and much more support than I have 
is presented in the news as a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea 
that the reason this person is overcoming their difficulties is because of 
their strength of character and positive mental attitude and persistence. The 
implication is: the rest of us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad 
attitude.  The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But 
nobody wants to see a story about that on television.  Dave Krehbiel  From: 
RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old  I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. 
These special quads have learned the art of giving people what they want to see 
and hear and cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll 
model and receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is 
support...t

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[RONALD L PRACHT]

This large church I attended a few years back tried to make me sit in the 
"wheelchair" section of church so I could see better. I will not sit in any 
particular section due to my color or disability. I made sure to sit on the far 
end of the seats so I don't block anyones view. I ended up meeting a great girl 
there and we did many things together. If I would have sat in the wheelchair 
section I would have never met that girl. People need to understand that people 
using a chair have the same wants and needs as anyone else. We have the same 
human value as anyone else sucking air. 
Ron


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:03 PM, John S.  wrote:
   

 You' don't see many wheelchairs around truly successful churches.  And AIDS 
kills more straight people than gays. Splain God to me again.  I've always 
avoided anyone that thinks god takes an active roll in people's lives.  Best 
Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Gmail  
Date: 07/08/2015 3:32 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Danny Hearn  
Cc: Dave Krehbiel , RONALD L PRACHT 
, Quad-list Post  
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old 

My, Christian, Aunt told me when I was first injured "If you REALLY believe in 
God ... he would make me walk." I seriously wanted to tell her off but held my 
tongue.
Then years later her husband said "God created AIDS to get rid of gays." I 
couldn't hold my tough then.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Hearn  wrote:


What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but he 
was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried our 
rear ends off.  Dan H** 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
 wrote:
   

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{}#yiv1868851861 Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like 
snowflakes, they are all different."  I sometimes feel offended when some 
person who has a different injury than mine and much more support than I have 
is presented in the news as a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea 
that the reason this person is overcoming their difficulties is because of 
their strength of character and positive mental attitude and persistence. The 
implication is: the rest of us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad 
attitude.  The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But 
nobody wants to see a story about that on television.  Dave Krehbiel  From: 
RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old  I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. 
These special quads have learned the art of giving people what they want to see 
and hear and cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll 
model and receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is 
support...they have much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. 
The average quad just doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled 
community is more like I have it and you don't rather than helping every 
disabled individual get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about 
how things are dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth 
spending money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.  Ron    On 
Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:  They are faking 
it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[John S.]

You' don't see many wheelchairs around truly successful churches.  And AIDS 
kills more straight people than gays. Splain God to me again.  I've always 
avoided anyone that thinks god takes an active roll in people's lives.  Best 
Wishes, John s.

 Original message 
From: Gmail  
Date: 07/08/2015  3:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Danny Hearn  
Cc: Dave Krehbiel , RONALD L PRACHT 
, Quad-list Post  
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old 

My, Christian, Aunt told me when I was first injured "If you REALLY believe in 
God ... he would make me walk." I seriously wanted to tell her off but held my 
tongue.
Then years later her husband said "God created AIDS to get rid of gays." I 
couldn't hold my tough then.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Hearn  wrote:

What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but he 
was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried our 
rear ends off.  Dan H**  


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
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#yiv5068387575 Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, 
they are all different."  I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a 
different injury than mine and much more support than I have is presented in 
the news as a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea that the reason 
this person is overcoming their difficulties is because of their strength of 
character and positive mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the 
rest of us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude.  The 
reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody wants to 
see a story about that on television.  Dave Krehbiel  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
[mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old  I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. 
These special quads have learned the art of giving people what they want to see 
and hear and cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll 
model and receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is 
support...they have much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. 
The average quad just doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled 
community is more like I have it and you don't rather than helping every 
disabled individual get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about 
how things are dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth 
spending money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.  Ron    On 
Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:  They are faking 
it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!   

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Gmail]

My, Christian, Aunt told me when I was first injured "If you REALLY believe in 
God ... he would make me walk." 
I seriously wanted to tell her off but held my tongue.

Then years later her husband said "God created AIDS to get rid of gays." I 
couldn't hold my tough then.   Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Hearn  wrote:
> 
> What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
> Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
> legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
> guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
> legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
> him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
> docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
> and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but 
> he was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried 
> our rear ends off.  Dan H**
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, they are all 
> different."
>  
> I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a different injury than 
> mine and much more support than I have is presented in the news as a role 
> model. The TV show seem to present the idea that the reason this person is 
> overcoming their difficulties is because of their strength of character and 
> positive mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the rest of us 
> just are not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude.
>  
> The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody 
> wants to see a story about that on television.
>  
> Dave Krehbiel
>  
> From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
> To: Quad-list Post
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old
>  
> I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. These special quads have 
> learned the art of giving people what they want to see and hear and cry at 
> home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll model and receive 
> support. The one thing that all super quads have is support...they have 
> much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. The average quad just 
> doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled community is more 
> like I have it and you don't rather than helping every disabled individual 
> get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about how things are 
> dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth spending 
> money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.
>  
> Ron
>  
>  
> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:
>  
> They are faking it!
> 
> 
> 
> > meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> > pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> > grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> > can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> > stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!
>  
> 
> 

[QUAD-L] Old

[lindakrn]

Larry, Ron & Danny you guys nailed it on the head! It would help with a little 
more finances because all disabilty equipment & supplies are ten times marked 
up. You get a lot of support when you first get injured then they stop coming 
one by one. Everyone sees you doing pretty good but that's the end of old 
friends. Most of my friends are new, after my injury. Thank goodness for my 
family cuz i have 4 grandkids but they are getting to be teenagers. 
lindaf 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old

[Larry Willis]

Wow Danny, that is some real ignorance right there. We cannot will something to 
happen no matter how hard we try. A million dollar athlete breaks a leg bone 
and it is a terrible tragedy. As he recuperates he is praised and lauded for 
his amazing strength and determination. He heals completely and his story 
becomes a book, an ESPN special, and a constant storyline of courage. 
Meanwhile, we quads face hell everyday with zero hope of getting better. Such a 
"story of courage" makes me want to gag. A simple broken leg would be like a 
toothache to us. Nothing but a temporary nuisance. As I age, quad life gets 
harder, money gets tighter, and my sunny outlook becomes more and more cloudy. 
I know I am rambling, but you guys know exactly what I am talking about. 
Courage, peeps.
Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Danny Hearn 
> Date: July 8, 2015 at 9:09:25 AM EDT
> To: Dave Krehbiel , 'RONALD L PRACHT' 
> , 'Quad-list Post' 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old
> Reply-To: Danny Hearn 
> 
> What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
> Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
> legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
> guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
> legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
> him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
> docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
> and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but 
> he was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried 
> our rear ends off.  Dan H**
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, they are all 
> different."
>  
> I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a different injury than 
> mine and much more support than I have is presented in the news as a role 
> model. The TV show seem to present the idea that the reason this person is 
> overcoming their difficulties is because of their strength of character and 
> positive mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the rest of us 
> just are not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude.
>  
> The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody 
> wants to see a story about that on television.
>  
> Dave Krehbiel
>  
> From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
> To: Quad-list Post
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old
>  
> I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. These special quads have 
> learned the art of giving people what they want to see and hear and cry at 
> home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll model and receive 
> support. The one thing that all super quads have is support...they have 
> much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. The average quad just 
> doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled community is more 
> like I have it and you don't rather than helping every disabled individual 
> get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about how things are 
> dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth spending 
> money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.
>  
> Ron
>  
>  
> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:
>  
> They are faking it!
> 
> 
> 
> > meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> > pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> > grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> > can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> > stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!
>  
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Danny Hearn]

What you guys are saying reminded me of a nurses aide when i was in St.Johns 
Hospital during rehab...He would tell us Quads that we don't try to move our 
legs and body hard enough, He told me if it were him Paralyzed he could 
guarantee he would not stay like me because he would try so hard to make his 
legs hands and body work that he would get full function back againI told 
him my spine and spinal cord were completely severed in my car accident and 
docs said I can't recover  more than my c-6 levelhe told me that is bull 
and that us Quads just don't make enough effort. I really liked  the guy but he 
was dead wrong on that judgement because i think most all of us have tried our 
rear ends off.  Dan H** 


 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:50 AM, Dave Krehbiel 
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{}#yiv5068387575 Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like 
snowflakes, they are all different."  I sometimes feel offended when some 
person who has a different injury than mine and much more support than I have 
is presented in the news as a role model. The TV show seem to present the idea 
that the reason this person is overcoming their difficulties is because of 
their strength of character and positive mental attitude and persistence. The 
implication is: the rest of us just are not trying hard enough and have a bad 
attitude.  The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But 
nobody wants to see a story about that on television.  Dave Krehbiel  From: 
RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old  I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. 
These special quads have learned the art of giving people what they want to see 
and hear and cry at home behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll 
model and receive support. The one thing that all super quads have is 
support...they have much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. 
The average quad just doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled 
community is more like I have it and you don't rather than helping every 
disabled individual get the support they need. There isn't anything fair about 
how things are dolled out to help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth 
spending money on (Voc Rehab) and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.  Ron    On 
Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:  They are faking 
it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!   

  

RE: [QUAD-L] Old

[Dave Krehbiel]

Someone on this forum said, "quadriplegics are like snowflakes, they are all 
different."

 

I sometimes feel offended when some person who has a different injury than mine 
and much more support than I have is presented in the news as a role model. The 
TV show seem to present the idea that the reason this person is overcoming 
their difficulties is because of their strength of character and positive 
mental attitude and persistence. The implication is: the rest of us just are 
not trying hard enough and have a bad attitude.

 

The reality is: some of us are having a pretty rough go of it. But nobody wants 
to see a story about that on television.

 

Dave Krehbiel

 

From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:07 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old

 

I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. These special quads have 
learned the art of giving people what they want to see and hear and cry at home 
behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll model and receive 
support. The one thing that all super quads have is support...they have 
much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. The average quad just 
doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled community is more like 
I have it and you don't rather than helping every disabled individual get the 
support they need. There isn't anything fair about how things are dolled out to 
help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth spending money on (Voc Rehab) 
and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.

 

Ron

 

 

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:

 

They are faking it!




> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!! 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Gmail]

I agree with you oldies. I'm 59 42 years post and can't remember when I didn't 
hurt ... somewhere.
I take morphine like candy.
Lately, I've been getting up just every other day because my butt has been 
sensitive (for the lack of a better word) and even with that I got an open sore 
on my butt. G! And I'm only up for 7-8 freaking hours!

I went to brace clinic at Kessler Institute because of my bad scoliosis getting 
worse. The doctor said from my MRI this is very minor, well it doesn't feel 
minor let me tell you.
So I'm off for PT and maybe a new back on my chair.

The best medicine was yesterday when I saw my 42 year old nephew, from Florida, 
whom I haven't seen in 20 years. He came with his new wife Eileen and his 
youngest son 17 Dylan.
The time flew but when they left I was extremely exhausted.Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> I agree with everything you guys said. I am 63, 44 years post. My bad days 
> out number the good by a large margin. Everything hurts, everything. And it 
> keeps getting worse.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> From: greg 
>> Date: July 4, 2015 at 12:48:50 PM EDT
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old
>> 
>> They are faking it!
>> 
>> 
>>> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
>>> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
>>> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
>>> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
>>> stuggle !   Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!
>> 
>> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Gmail]

I agree wholeheartedly Larry.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Jul 3, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Larry Willis  wrote:
> 
> Call me a pessimist but I have no desire to be an old quad. Just don't see 
> the return.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I was told once that if you cry you will cry alone. These special quads have 
learned the art of giving people what they want to see and hear and cry at home 
behind closed doors. It has allowed them to be a roll model and receive 
support. The one thing that all super quads have is support...they have 
much family, friends, checkbook, donations, caregivers. The average quad just 
doesn't have all that behind them and sadly the disabled community is more like 
I have it and you don't rather than helping every disabled individual get the 
support they need. There isn't anything fair about how things are dolled out to 
help the disabled.Its who you know, are you worth spending money on (Voc Rehab) 
and the sqeaky wheel gets the oil.
Ron 


 On Saturday, July 4, 2015 11:48 AM, greg  wrote:
   

 They are faking it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !  Happy 4th to yopu all today !!! 



  

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old

[Larry Willis]

I agree with everything you guys said. I am 63, 44 years post. My bad days out 
number the good by a large margin. Everything hurts, everything. And it keeps 
getting worse.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: greg 
> Date: July 4, 2015 at 12:48:50 PM EDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old
> 
> They are faking it!
> 
> 
>> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
>> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
>> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
>> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
>> stuggle !   Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[greg]

They are faking it!


> meds I take, thank goodness not all days are real bad...I have some
> pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm turning into a
> grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few others
> can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a
> stuggle !   Happy 4th to yopu all today !!! 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old

[Danny Hearn]

I'm like you 2 guys...I'm 58 and right at 18 years post and life keeps getting 
harder for me and my wife caregiver, my 1st - Ten years as a quad were 
wonderful compared to now, these days I never sleep well and have so much more 
aches and pains even with all the meds I take, thank goodness not all days are 
real bad...I have some pretty good days but on other days I feel like I'm 
turning into a grumpy old man--i don't see how Joni Erickson Tada and a few 
others can be s cheerful all the time, I try but it is a stuggle !  
 Happy 4th to yopu all today !!!   Dan H*** 


 On Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:55 AM, John S.  wrote:
   

 I gotta agree.  I think living follows a rule of diminishing return.  Being 
the oldest living quad would be an awful epitaph. Being 40 years post, the 
concept of eternal rest gets a bit more acceptable than beating a record. of 
merely existing. I'm with you Larry. 

 Original message 
From: Larry Willis  
Date: 07/03/2015 10:56 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old 

Call me a pessimist but I have no desire to be an old quad. Just don't see the 
return.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it
AafabB

  

RE: [QUAD-L] Old

[John S.]

I gotta agree.  I think living follows a rule of diminishing return.  Being the 
oldest living quad would be an awful epitaph. Being 40 years post, the concept 
of eternal rest gets a bit more acceptable than beating a record. of merely 
existing. I'm with you Larry. 

 Original message 
From: Larry Willis  
Date: 07/03/2015  10:56 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old 

Call me a pessimist but I have no desire to be an old quad. Just don't see the 
return.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it
AafabB

[QUAD-L] Old

[Larry Willis]

Call me a pessimist but I have no desire to be an old quad. Just don't see the 
return.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[Nan]

"When I was discharged from the hospital my father was told to take me home, 
buy me a television and wait for me to die.  That was the mind set in 1968."

Glenn,
That is exactly what they told my parents when I was discharged in Feb. '69.  
Where did you rehab?

I also had an alcohol block.  What a blessing.

When I look back I am so proud of what I've accomplished - I've had a good 
life.  You must be proud too - you're one of my heroes!

Nan
 


 From: "gah17...@aol.com" 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age
 

Yes, we are going in uncharted territory.  In July will be 46 years 
post SCI I will be 62 years old,
but feel like I am younger.  There are 
days when I feel older, but I am lucky enough not to have the pain issue.
 
When I was discharged from the hospital my father was told to take me home, 
buy me a television and wait for me to die.  That was the mind set in 
1968.
 
I have been active in the electronics field for 35 years and even though I 
am retired I continue to volunteer for the historical society, active in church 
and just generally doing something.  The worst thing that we can do is sit 
around watch television and let our brains go mushy.  Do something!
 
Wow!  As I write this e-mail I'm looking out the picture window at the 
Susquehanna River.  I am blessed to be watching a mature bald eagle circle 
over the river at this very moment.
 
One blessing that happens to me when I was in the hospital, I had an 
alcohol block.  This killed my spinal column, taking away the pain and 
spasms.  I don't believe they do that procedure today, but I feel that my 
life was easier not having to deal with those two issues.
 
I'm going to step outside and watch my eagle, talk to you all later.
 

Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry 
Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA 
17582

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old age

[lwillis821]

Sounds very much like me, Greg. Are we just wearing out?

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: greg 
> Date: February 11, 2013, 4:44:59 PM EST
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
> 
> Yes to all those things.
> 
> Just a year ago I did lots more... Most days I went on a 2-6 mile walk/drive 
> with my dog. Now it's once every few weeks.
> My pain is worse. hurt hip. Pain meds screw up my b-program, constipation and 
> just slow it down. Excess musus marks.
> I use to read every day, but I have a hard time getting into it now. I check 
> email 1 maybe 2 times a week.
> I get tired after writing 2 emails. I'm trying to exercise more, butgt 
> tgiresd.
> Greg
> 
> 
>> To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more
>> listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years
>> post and it seems like I have no drive to do anything other than
>> sit here. Anyone else have this problem?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad

[QUAD-L] Old Age!

[Mike Mills]

Thanks ☺!

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[Quadius]

About six years ago I decided to move and that was a big mistake. I had
already graduated from college and really had no long-term goals set, but I
was still active in my community. I thought I would be able to get right
back into community activism, but I don't really like the system up here.

I used the blog quite a bit, but that is even become something that I don't
endeavor to do. So for the last two years I can say I haven't been feeling
my normal self. I still feel like I'm about 30 (the age I was when I was
injured), but I need to get some long-term goals set. That seems to be what
drives me.

I'm 48 and in April I'll be 18 years post injury.

Quadius
PS I do keep myself busy reading and watching good television. I tried
exercise my mind when doing so.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:

> To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more
> listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and
> it seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone
> else have this problem?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

[QUAD-L] Old age

[Gah17582]

Yes, we are going in uncharted territory.  In July will be 46 years  post 
SCI I will be 62 years old,
but feel like I am younger.  There are  days when I feel older, but I am 
lucky enough not to have the pain issue.
 
When I was discharged from the hospital my father was told to take me home, 
 buy me a television and wait for me to die.  That was the mind set in  
1968.
 
I have been active in the electronics field for 35 years and even though I  
am retired I continue to volunteer for the historical society, active in 
church  and just generally doing something.  The worst thing that we can do is 
sit  around watch television and let our brains go mushy.  Do something!
 
Wow!  As I write this e-mail I'm looking out the picture window at the  
Susquehanna River.  I am blessed to be watching a mature bald eagle circle  
over the river at this very moment.
 
One blessing that happens to me when I was in the hospital, I had an  
alcohol block.  This killed my spinal column, taking away the pain and  spasms. 
 
I don't believe they do that procedure today, but I feel that my  life was 
easier not having to deal with those two issues.
 
I'm going to step outside and watch my eagle, talk to you all later.
 

Glenn Henry

G.A.Henry  Radio
100 Mill Street
Washington Boro, PA  17582

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[jume9999]

I can honestly say that in the last 2 yrs (31 yrs. post injury) I have been in 
more pain, I have noticed that with more pain meds comes more pain, kinda a 
rebound effect. So i am trying to limit my use and it is helping at least with 
the tiredness and memory loss etc. We are the pioneers in this for sure. 

Meredith 

- Original Message -
From: lwillis...@yahoo.com 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 4:51:37 PM 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age 

To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and it 
seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone else have 
this problem? 

Sent from my iPad 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old age

[lwillis821]

Shahidul, I think old age starts whenever you start feeling old, and that could 
be any age. I hope you are still feeling young at 50!

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: Shahidul 
> Date: February 9, 2013, 10:17:04 AM EST
> To: Quad 
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I got 50 on last October. I thought I am still at middle aged. When does old 
> age start ?
> 
> Please take care :-)
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Alam
> C5/6, 20 years post
> web site: http://www.daruchinidip.com/ 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM,  wrote:
>> Well, I guess it is some comfort to know that we are all in the same boat. I 
>> think we are actually a pioneering group -- the first quads to test the 
>> waters of old age. It is certainly not easy though. I live on Paxil and pain 
>> meds. That may be why I am a zombie half the time! On a different note, 56 
>> and sunny today here in old Kaintuck. God bless you guys in the blizzard's 
>> path.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> From: bobbie...@aol.com
>>> Date: February 8, 2013, 8:28:46 PM EST
>>> To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net, lwillis...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm 57 and 40 years post this April and my pain is insane. I take A LOT of 
>>> morphine plus other pain meds. I find I don't remember things like I use to 
>>> ...… it's definitely a side effect of pain meds.Bobbie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Danny Hearn 
>>> To: lwillis821 ; quad-list 
>>> Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 8:15 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
>>> 
>>> Yep, It can be tough, especially during the winter months, I feel tired and 
>>> in pain a lot-some days it can be hard to just do simple things, I don't 
>>> sleep well either as I got older It is hard to sleep more than an hour or 
>>> so at a time. You are much ahead of me i'm 15 1/2 years post now and at age 
>>> 56. Dan H.*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "lwillis...@yahoo.com" <lwillis...@yahoo.com>
>>> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 6:52:28 PM
>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age
>>> 
>>> To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
>>> listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and 
>>> it seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone 
>>> else have this problem?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[Shahidul]

Hi,

I got 50 on last October. I thought I am still at middle aged. When does
old age start ?

Please take care :-)

Yours,

Alam
C5/6, 20 years post
web site: http://www.daruchinidip.com/


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:09 PM,  wrote:

> Well, I guess it is some comfort to know that we are all in the same boat.
> I think we are actually a pioneering group -- the first quads to test the
> waters of old age. It is certainly not easy though. I live on Paxil and
> pain meds. That may be why I am a zombie half the time! On a different
> note, 56 and sunny today here in old Kaintuck. God bless you guys in the
> blizzard's path.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *From:* bobbie...@aol.com
> *Date:* February 8, 2013, 8:28:46 PM EST
> *To:* ddh...@sbcglobal.net, lwillis...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* *Re: [QUAD-L] Old age*
>
>
> I'm 57 and 40 years post this April and my pain is insane. I take A LOT of
> morphine plus other pain meds. I find I don't remember things like I use to
> ...… it's definitely a side effect of pain meds.Bobbie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Danny Hearn 
> To: lwillis821 ; quad-list 
> Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 8:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
>
> Yep, It can be tough, especially during the winter months, I feel tired
> and in pain a lot-some days it can be hard to just do simple things, I
> don't sleep well either as I got older It is hard to sleep more than an
> hour or so at a time. You are much ahead of me i'm 15 1/2 years post now
> and at age 56. Dan H.*
>
>
> From: "lwillis...@yahoo.com" <lwillis...@yahoo.com>
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 6:52:28 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age
>
> To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more
> listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and
> it seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone
> else have this problem?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Old age

[lwillis821]

Well, I guess it is some comfort to know that we are all in the same boat. I 
think we are actually a pioneering group -- the first quads to test the waters 
of old age. It is certainly not easy though. I live on Paxil and pain meds. 
That may be why I am a zombie half the time! On a different note, 56 and sunny 
today here in old Kaintuck. God bless you guys in the blizzard's path.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: bobbie...@aol.com
> Date: February 8, 2013, 8:28:46 PM EST
> To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net, lwillis...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
> 
> 
> I'm 57 and 40 years post this April and my pain is insane. I take A LOT of 
> morphine plus other pain meds. I find I don't remember things like I use to 
> ...… it's definitely a side effect of pain meds.Bobbie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Danny Hearn 
> To: lwillis821 ; quad-list 
> Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 8:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age
> 
> Yep, It can be tough, especially during the winter months, I feel tired and 
> in pain a lot-some days it can be hard to just do simple things, I don't 
> sleep well either as I got older It is hard to sleep more than an hour or so 
> at a time. You are much ahead of me i'm 15 1/2 years post now and at age 56. 
> Dan H.*
> 
> 
> From: "lwillis...@yahoo.com" <lwillis...@yahoo.com>
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 6:52:28 PM
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age
> 
> To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
> listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and it 
> seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone else 
> have this problem?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[bobbie299]

I'm 57 and 40 years post this April and my pain is insane. I take A LOT 
of morphine plus other pain meds. I find I don't remember things like I 
use to ...… it's definitely a side effect of pain meds.Bobbie







-Original Message-
From: Danny Hearn 
To: lwillis821 ; quad-list 
Sent: Fri, Feb 8, 2013 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

Yep, It can be tough, especially during the winter months, I feel tired 
and in pain a lot-some days it can be hard to just do simple things, I 
don't sleep well either as I got older It is hard to sleep more than an 
hour or so at a time. You are much ahead of me i'm 15 1/2 years post 
now and at age 56. Dan H.*



From: "lwillis...@yahoo.com" <lwillis...@yahoo.com>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 6:52:28 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age

To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post 
and it seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. 
Anyone else have this problem?


Sent from my iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Old age

[Danny Hearn]

Yep, It can be tough, especially during the winter months, I feel tired and in 
pain a lot-some days it can be hard to just do simple things, I don't sleep 
well 
either as I got older It is hard to sleep more than an hour or so at a time. 
You 
are much ahead of me i'm 15 1/2 years post now and at age 56. Dan H.*





From: "lwillis...@yahoo.com" 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 6:52:28 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old age

To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and it 
seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone else have 
this problem?

Sent from my iPad

[QUAD-L] Old age

[lwillis821]

To all of you long time quads: Do you find yourself more 
listless/tired/unmotivated than you used to be? I am now 42 years post and it 
seems like I have no drive to do anything other than sit here. Anyone else have 
this problem?

Sent from my iPad

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Time Radio (OTR) / Audio Books

[Candle]

Sometimes, when I am in too much pain to do anythinug, listening to an audio 
book is a way to distract myself. Also, when I'm doing good, I can listen to a 
book on tape while I sit and try to clean something. Otherwise, if I read a 
book, I don't get  much done because I am unable to leave a good book.


Candle 
"Scars remind of us where we’ve been, they don’t have to dictate where we are 
going." 
~David Rossi of Criminal Minds
***
 


 From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old Time Radio (OTR) / Audio Books
  

 
All great programs!  Back then you had to use your imagination not 
like today.B\ 
Best Wishes 

In a message dated 5/25/2012 2:24:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com writes: 
I’ve tried audio books, but I just can’t follow along that long. I have  been 
listening to old radio shows. They are usually 30-60 minutes long, so  it’s 
much easier. 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, Superman, Horatio Hornblower, Dragnet,  
Gunsmoke, The Shadow, Flash Gordon, etc. I put them on my MP3 player and my  
Kindle. http://www.oldradioworld.com/ 
>
>Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Time Radio (OTR) / Audio Books

[wheelchair]

All great programs!  Back then you had to use your imagination not  
like today.B\
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/25/2012 2:24:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

 
I’ve tried audio books, but I just can’t follow along that long. I have  
been listening to old radio shows. They are usually 30-60 minutes long, so  it
’s much easier. 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, Superman, Horatio Hornblower, Dragnet, 
 Gunsmoke, The Shadow, Flash Gordon, etc. I put them on my MP3 player and 
my  Kindle. _http://www.oldradioworld.com/_ (http://www.oldradioworld.com/) 
 
Greg

[QUAD-L] Old Time Radio (OTR) / Audio Books

[Greg]

I’ve tried audio books, but I just can’t follow along that long. I have been 
listening to old radio shows. They are usually 30-60 minutes long, so it’s much 
easier. 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, Superman, Horatio Hornblower, Dragnet, Gunsmoke, 
The Shadow, Flash Gordon, etc. I put them on my MP3 player and my Kindle. 
http://www.oldradioworld.com/

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Old Age

[greg]

Me too, but meds don't seem to help with that for me.
Then when I stretch it makes my arms tingle even more.
One cold draft just ruins my day.
The hair on my arms stay up and then when rubbing on my shirt or a warm breeze goes by my arms tingle more.
Though I do realize how good I have it here in the sun. To me, 65 and sunny is better than 80 and cloudy.
 
Greg
> So. Calif. has been overcast and  cold  the last few weeks and it
> seems like my muscles have gotten tighter and tighter.   Even with
> frequent stretching it the pain is getting worse every day. 
> Muscles been tight just makes me take more meds.

[QUAD-L] Old Age

[greg]

Me too!
It the soreness in my muscles and bones plus the b-program that's the biggest issue.
Today I must have been seated slightly off because my neck and right between my shoulders are really bad today. I don't know how you cold weather quads can do it. Here in AZ it's just cooling off and a few cooler cloudy days and my muscles just tighten up. It's 75 today and hazy and I'm freezing.
My b-program has been really slowing down, sweating more, etc. Making me feel like looking into "bagging it" if you know what I mean. That just seams drastic though. I'm going to switch back to Enemeez from Magic Bullets, maybe a change will help.
 
Greg
 
---
Tougher indeed Tom.    I was hurt in '67 at age 19 and have been going pretty strong until about 3 years ago.   My job being given to India didn't help - not a big demand for a 60 year old quad with cheap Asian labor flooding the place.   Now hopefully my SS doesn't go away or freeze for too long I'm just getting tired of it all.
AZDAVE

[QUAD-L] Old west philosophy.

[Dave0c]

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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Eric,
   
  I didn't start posting to the Quad-List until 2002, but I was e-mailing a 
member, and reading the Q-List's posts before then.  Stay strong.
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 


Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  08/97
  
Eric W Rudd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Quadius]

I found the list initially in 97 or 98.  I was on the list for a couple of
years and then only lurked for about three or four years.  Over the last two
years I have been actively participating and lurking off and on.  It used to
be quite a bit to handle when I had it going to my home computer or my yahoo
e-mail address, but once I started using Gmail exclusively for this list, it
became significantly easier for me to look at all of the subjects.

This list has been invaluable to me over the years and is often a crutch
which I lean on heavily.
Thanks everyone.
Quadius


On 12/31/07, Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hey...
>
> For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
> lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
> been on this list?
>
> I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for
> six months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000
> so it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I
> have told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of
> it.  They know who they are.  :-)
>
> Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
> list.
>
> Happy new year to you all!
>
> --
> Lori
> C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
> Tucson, AZ
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in/memory

[DAANOO]

I think it sometime after 1993 as that was when I first got the  Internet.  
One of my aides found the quadlist for me.  I remember  reading it but I didn't 
really post.  I was really happy when she found  this for me because it made 
me feel like there were a lot of other people in my  same situation that I 
could relate to.  I live in a large metropolitan area  of Kansas City in a 
suburb 
in Kansas , but I don't really know hardly any  quadriplegics.  Shortly after 
I got out of the hospital at KU and was  through my rehabilitation at Yonkers 
in Des Moines Iowa.  We had monthly  meetings at each other's houses but that 
didn't last very long and we did not  really keep in contact.  There's only 
one person that I still hear out  through my mother, because his mother is good 
friends with one of my mother's  friends and he is a great artist.  He has a 
show every year in a park, but  it is always on the day when my best friend, 
who is the main person that takes  me out, is not off.  One year my 
sister-in-law take me but we got there  when it was over, so I never got to see 
any of 
his artwork.
 
I don't really remember when I first started posting.  Thank you so  much 
Jim, for starting this wonderful list and for all the other participants,  who 
make it what it is today.  The wealth of information that everyone  provides 
makes it a great place to be.
 
Dana ( C-4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas which is a suburb  of 
Kansas City)


please everybody post pictures on Mark's website, so we know who everyone  is.

.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledOfAmerica/



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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in/memory

[Lori Michaelson]

It was quite easy to know when I got on this list because it was shortly
after I got on the Internet.  In early 1995I did not even know a single
thing about the Internet.  Then I signed up but ended up being in the
hospital for two weeks with my shunt surgeries.  I remember thinking, lying
there in the hospital, that I had just signed up for the Internet and was
paying for it but could not use it or learn how to use it!

I usually can keep track of things (anything) by where I was or who I was
with at the time something happened or occurred.  Or categories.  Like I can
remember certain things that were pre-my ex significant other.  Or when I
was with him.  Or where we lived.

And then after I split up with him and what I was doing in the interim
between breaking up with him and marrying my current husband.  And what I
have done and where I have lived since our marriage over the last 10 years.

Kind of like "where I was" and "who I was with" when this or that happened.

Lori Michaelson
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ

Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Danny Hearn]

I got injured in a car wreck Aug-3rd 1997--about a year later, Found this 
site--so I been here about 9 years or so.   Dan H.  c-610+ 
years post.  St.Louis, Mo.

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I joined in 2002.



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Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in
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5 years Happy New Years!  Silas 
   
  From: MissLiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in


   
  I have no clue…4 to five years.
  
Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the 
list.

Happy new year to you all!

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Tucson, AZ 


   

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[William Willis]

I joined in 2002.


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5 years Happy New Years!  Silas 

 





From: MissLiz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:58 AM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com

Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in





 

I have no clue…4 to five years.






Hey...





 





For those of you who post
regularly (as well as those who do not or just lurk) I was wondering if you all
could tell the rest of us how long you have been on this list?





 





I found it in the latter part
of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six months when we were living in
temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it has been 12 1/2 years for me
or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told at least four people
about this list because they had not heard of it.  They know who they
are.  :-) 





 





Anyway, it would be
refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the list.





Happy new year to you all!





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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Ms Linda Ferrell]

I'm glad to hear you all are having memory problems too!
Lindaf
Anyone else have memory problems? 
I wouldn't mind if someone who keeps track would tell when I first posted 
here.

john
- Original Message 
From: MissLiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 8:58:24 AM
    Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in
I have no clue.4 to five years.

Hey...
 
For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?
 
I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 
 
Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the 
list.
Happy new year to you all!
-- 
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C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson , AZ 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in/memory

[DiannaL767]

I  wouldn't mind if someone who keeps track would tell when I first posted  
here.
Hi John,
I don't keep track but I *think* you started posting about 6 mos ago. I  know 
it hasn't been over a yr. The reason I took notice was because you are from  
Ohio.
My short term memory is shot. I believe it's from my meds which are pain  
meds. I have to write a note about everything!
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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Silas Shelburne]

5 years Happy New Years!  Silas 

 

From: MissLiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 

I have no clue.4 to five years.


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ 

 

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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Dan]

A long time but who remembers such things?

Dan

At 08:58 AM 1/1/2008 -0500, MissLiz said something that elicited my response:
  

>I have no clue&4 to five years.
>
>
>Hey...
>
> 
>
>For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just lurk) 
>I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have been on 
>this list?
>
> 
>
>I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
>months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
>has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
>at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
>know who they are.  :-) 
>
> 
>
>Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the list.
>
>Happy new year to you all!
>
>-- 
>Lori 
>C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
>Tucson, AZ 
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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Danny Hearn]

Yes, Danny...I have that at times too, especially with my medsI have to 
really take note of the time or an hour or so later I'm wondering if I took 
that med or not.

 Dan H.

Danny Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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I have a bad time with remembering if I did something or not, it's 
mostly just my short-term memory that is really messed up.  If I try to 
remember something I usually can but all the things I don't try to remember I 
have a horrible time recalling them
   
 
  Danny Espinoza 24/m/California
   
  Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security engineer
  Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2
  TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord
  off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to
  asymmetric SCI"
  http://secureminds.us/

   
  From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:56 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in


   
  That is like a key question to people with TBI's. I have an awful time 
with time. 4 years, 10 years, its the same. Anyone else have memory problems? 
I wouldn't mind if someone who keeps track would tell when I first posted here.

john
- Original Message 
From: MissLiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 8:58:24 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in
I have no clue…4 to five years.
  
Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the 
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson , AZ 


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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Danny Espinoza]

I have a bad time with remembering if I did something or not, it's mostly
just my short-term memory that is really messed up.  If I try to remember
something I usually can but all the things I don't try to remember I have a
horrible time recalling them

 

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:56 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 

That is like a key question to people with TBI's. I have an awful time with
time. 4 years, 10 years, its the same. Anyone else have memory problems? 
I wouldn't mind if someone who keeps track would tell when I first posted
here.

john

- Original Message 
From: MissLiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 8:58:24 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

I have no clue.4 to five years.


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson , AZ 

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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Theo Kyparissis]

Hi W, 

 

I will certainly try. 

 

Cheers 

Theo 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 

Hiya Theo!

 

Miss your postings and hope that you post more this year.

Best Wishes

W

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[John S.]

That is like a key question to people with TBI's. I have an awful time with 
time. 4 years, 10 years, its the same. Anyone else have memory problems? 
I wouldn't mind if someone who keeps track would tell when I first posted here.

john

- Original Message 
From: MissLiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 8:58:24 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in





 
 

 

 

 









I have
no clue…4 to five years.
 







Hey...
 






 
 






For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or
just lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you
have been on this list?
 






 
 






I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for
six months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years
I have told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of
it.  They know who they are.  :-) 
 






 
 






Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been
on the list.
 






Happy new year to you all!
 






-- 

Lori 

C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post

 Tucson , AZ 

 











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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Ms Linda Ferrell]

Hi Theo,
Good to see you posting! Happy New Year!
Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Ms Linda Ferrell]

I was injured in 87', a C4-5Complete. I got my first computer in 97 & 
Wheelchair told me about the Quad-list & I have been on the list since then. I 
lived in the Nursing Home at that time untill 99 when I moved out into my Apt.
Lindaf

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Paul Jacobson]

4 years..wo h
  - Original Message - 
  From: MissLiz 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:58 AM
  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in


  I have no clue.4 to five years.


  Hey...

   

  For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?

   

  I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 

   

  Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the list.

  Happy new year to you all!

  -- 
  Lori 
  C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
  Tucson, AZ 

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[MissLiz]

I have no clue.4 to five years.


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ 

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[wheelchair]

Hiya Theo!
 
Miss your postings and hope that you post more this year.
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 1/1/2008 4:19:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello from Athens, Greece,   
I have been lurking  and on occasion contributing for about 10 years now. On 
many occasions this  list has been a huge help.  
Happy & Healthy  2008 to everyone  
Cheers   
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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Theo Kyparissis]

Hello from Athens, Greece, 

 

I have been lurking and on occasion contributing for about 10 years now. On
many occasions this list has been a huge help. 

 

Happy & Healthy 2008 to everyone 

 

Cheers 

Theo 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 1:15 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 


Hi Lori, I do not recall how I found the list, but think its been about 4yrs
now.
And a Happy New Year to everyone also:-)  Ray C-5 C-6 AZ   

-Original Message-
From: Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:32 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Eric W Rudd]

08/97

Eric W Rudd
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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[DiannaL767]

In a message dated 12/31/2007 6:37:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I found it in the latter  part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living  in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so 
it has been 12 1/2 years for  me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have 
told at least four  people about this list because they had not heard of it.  
They know who  they are.  :-) 
 

 
Anyway, it would be  refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the  
list.
Happy new year to you  all! 
-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28  years post
Tucson, A
I've been on the list since 99-2000...I think. Can't remember  exactly.
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RE: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Danny Espinoza]

I have been with this list I think since October 2007. I've mostly just read
what everyone talks about on here and give my two cents when I can.  My
injury happened about 20 months ago from a car accident.  Right now I am
living with my parents and my two younger brothers.

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

 

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

http://secureminds.us/

 

From: Bill Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:49 PM
To: Quad List
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 

I'm fairly new.  I've only been on the list a bit over 3 years.

 

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

- Original Message - 

From: Lori Michaelson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: quad-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:32 PM

Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

 


Hey...

 

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

 

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-) 

 

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ 

Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[radnbadatpj]

Hi Lori, I do not recall how I found the list, but think its been about 4yrs 
now.
And?a Happy New Year to everyone also:-)? Ray C-5 C-6 AZ???

-Original Message-
From: Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:32 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in




Hey...

?

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just lurk) 
I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have been on 
this list?

?

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.? During?the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.? They 
know who they are.? :-) 

?

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long?y'll all have been on the list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
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Tucson, AZ 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Bill Jenkins]

I'm fairly new.  I've only been on the list a bit over 3 years.

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Life is too short for long pity parties. Get busy living, or get busy dying.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:32 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in



  Hey...

  For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just 
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have 
been on this list?

  I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six 
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so it 
has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have told 
at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.  They 
know who they are.  :-) 

  Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the list.
  Happy new year to you all!

  -- 
  Lori 
  C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
  Tucson, AZ 

[QUAD-L] Old-timers and newcomers_Checking in

[Lori Michaelson]

Hey...

For those of you who post regularly (as well as those who do not or just
lurk) I was wondering if you all could tell the rest of us how long you have
been on this list?

I found it in the latter part of 1995 and never unsubscribed except for six
months when we were living in temporary quarters at one time around 2000 so
it has been 12 1/2 years for me or so.  During the last 12 1/2 years I have
told at least four people about this list because they had not heard of it.
They know who they are.  :-)

Anyway, it would be refreshing to see how long y'll all have been on the
list.

Happy new year to you all!

-- 
Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post
Tucson, AZ

Re: [QUAD-L] Old timers

[MikeyBird3]

In a message dated 7/30/2005 1:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you could share 
  your insights on different things you seen change over the years that would be 
  real interesting to hear.

Well, first I was crippled, then disabled, then differently abled, then 
physically challenged, then challenged, and now I'm disabled again.
 
Kinda like Native Americans.  We just get used to that term ("Indian" 
was not politically correct) and the government opens "The American Indian 
Museum" in D.C. 
 
BillC-6 incomplete in 
FL

[QUAD-L] Old timers

[Lester Smith]

Hello everybody,

 

This email got me thing about how you long
term Quads have seen things change over the years.  Hoe people treat Quads
to the equipment we use.

 

I know as a Quad for 17 years I have seen
a lot of changes.  Stuff like wheelchairs that climb stairs (Ibot), 4x4
wheelchair. Medicine to reduce swelling after an accident. ADA.  I have seen changed on how people
react to quads too.  when I first was hurt, people talked to people with
me asking what I want or needed, today it seems people talk to me just as a
regular guy sitting down.  

 

If you could share your insights on
different things you seen change over the years that would be real interesting
to hear.

 

Lester-Denver

C4-C5 Quad (17 post)

 

 









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   34 years as a Quad
?   Wow, I wonder if that is the record in here for the longest
period that any of us in here have been quads ?  By the way how did you
become paralyzed ??





 
Thanks,  Dan

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[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Sharon,
 
Welcome back!  It seems we have been losing Quad-Lost members due to a Gremlin, but this message has made it through.  Stay Strong!
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA   Sharon Angelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have been subscribed to the list for a couple ofyears, under a different eMail which would not allow me to post! NorUnsubscrive, and I even tried resubscribing at no evail!If this message makes it accross I will be mostpleased with my efferts and will give more information about myself.Thanks from a very cold Canton Ohiowww.4561212.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

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[QuadPirate]

It's been received Sharon your efforts paid off.
 
Mark 
 
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From: Sharon Angelic
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:05:48 PM
To: quad-list
Subject: [QUAD-L] Old New Comer
 I have been subscribed to the list for a couple ofyears, under a different eMail which would not allow me to post! NorUnsubscrive, and I even tried resubscribing at no evail!If this message makes it accross I will be mostpleased with my efferts and will give more information about myself.Thanks from a very cold Canton Ohiowww.4561212.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com .