Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

do your chair brakes need a tune-up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i have wood floors.  i put a skinny rug by 
the bed and tucked the edge of the rug under the bed.   a rug with a rubber 
back works well too if you keep the floor really clean of dust and dog hair.
  dave
   
   
   
   
  In a message dated 6/12/2007 5:02:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
  My Mom has hard wood floors and when I transfer my chair moves.   We 
purchased rugs to correct it but the problem continues. Has anyone had this 
problem?  What did you do to correct it?

Thank you  have a wonderful day!
Shelly Loss
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[QUAD-L] Transfers

[shellbell5705]

My Mom has hard wood floors and when I transfer my chair moves. ? We purchased 
rugs to correct it but the problem continues. Has anyone had this problem?? 
What did you do to correct it?

Thank you  have a wonderful day!
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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Angie Novak]

Try putting on the brakes.
-Angie Novak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My Mom has hard wood floors and when I transfer my 
chair moves.   We purchased rugs to correct it but the problem continues. Has 
anyone had this problem?  What did you do to correct it?

Thank you  have a wonderful day!
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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
i have wood floors.  i put a skinny rug by the bed and tucked the edge  of 
the rug under the bed.   a rug with a rubber back works well too if  you keep 
the floor really clean of dust and dog hair.
dave
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/12/2007 5:02:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My Mom  has hard wood floors and when I transfer my chair moves.   We 
purchased  rugs to correct it but the problem continues. Has anyone had this  
problem?  What did you do to correct it?

Thank you  have a  wonderful day!
Shelly Loss
10 month incomplete
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Re: [QUAD-L] transfers

[Robert Brennan]

I'm  not a big fan of hoists Mr Lubin,hence incorrect procedure during my  nearly 5 year stay in an aged care facility at the tender age of  32.(Sad isn't it?) Buckled my hips to the point of no return.(Talk  about contractures). Give me top and tail any day,provided you have 2 willing people to assist.I guess i'm lucky in that respect. yours.Robert Brennan.   
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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

I tore a whole in my cover as well. I just can't wait to heal from 
this flap well so I can eventually get a firmer cushion down the road a 
bit. I pray. LOL!! I hate the roho only for the reason of transfers. It's 
very difficult and I have arm strength. I can't even imagine how hard it 
must be for you all. Well I remember slightly but I had a firmer cushion 
when I was regaining arm strength and learning to transfer.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list 
  post ; ~LittleQuad~ 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:23 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  After I went to a ROHO cushion I had to stop my transfers alone 
  because I tore the first cushion trying to transfer with a slid board.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue 
with the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of 
between my butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken 
only when I'm half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer 
have that issue?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? 
  What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a 
  electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
  Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

I just cant grasp the concept of a front transfer. Just something I 
was never informed about.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Win 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  Back when I first heard of it they called it a "Granny Scoot." That 
  just about describes they way it is done.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




Front? How is it possible?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Win 
  
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about 
  transfers from the front, instead of the side. Is that right 
  LittleQuad? I'm like you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the 
  side. Which means no need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to 
  toilet and bathtub, I do my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove 
  footrests for those.Win C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien 
  wrote:I transfer into a power chair. With 
  the armrest all the way backand behind the cushion, there is 
  no obstruction to slidingd! irectly onto the 
  cushion. What do you mean about legs what legs?Here is the 
  url for my chair notice the footrests are not in 
  theway at 
  allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
  prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's 
  figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 
  12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who 
  transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do 
  you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do itinto a 
  electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs 
  each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 4/8/2006 3:10:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I just cant grasp the concept of a front transfer. Just something I 
  was never informed about.
  
  Stacy

Its good for standing pivot transfers and those who have some mobility and 
strength.
W

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Stacy,After I went to a ROHO cushion I had to stop my transfers alone because I tore the first cushion trying to transfer with a slid board.With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue with the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of between my butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken only when I'm half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer have that issue? 
   Stacy- Original Message -   From: ~LittleQuad~   To: Quad-list post   Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 PM  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  ChairsThose of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!   Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Stacy,Back when I first heard of it they called it a "Granny Scoot." That just about describes they way it is done.With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Front? How is it possible?Stacy- Original Message -   From: Win   To: quad-list@eskimo.com   Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:57 PM  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  Chairs  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about transfers from the front, instead of the side. Is that right LittleQuad? I'm like you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the side. Which means no need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to toilet and bathtub, I do my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove footrests for those.Win C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien wrote:I transfer into a power chair. With the armrest all the way backand behind the cushion, there is no obstruction to slidingd!
 irectly
 onto the cushion. What do you mean about legs what legs?Here is the url for my chair notice the footrests are not in theway at allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do itinto a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi LQ,My manual chair was an EJ Premiere and had the footrests had a latch that I could 'Thumb' and the whole thing would swing out of the way.   With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  well to tell the truth i don't know!! i suppose the PT assumes we must... they stick out to the front and is kind of hard to go overthem, but not as hard as removing them...Win [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Why would you need to remove your footrests if you're doing a transfer from the side?WinAt 09:18 AM 4/5/2006, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:  NO, I mean from the side.  On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?  What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it  into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!  Thanks 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[tahouston]

I have tried transferring without the foot rests 
and it is so much more difficult for me.

T. Houston

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David K. Kelmer 
  To: ~LittleQuad~ ; Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Hi LQ,
  
  My manual chair was an EJ Premiere and had the footrests had a latch 
  that I could 'Thumb' and the whole thing would swing out of the way. 
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  well 
to tell the truth i don't know!! i suppose the PT assumes we must... they 
stick out to the front and is kind of hard to go overthem, but not as hard 
as removing them...Win [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Why 
  would you need to remove your footrests if you're doing a transfer from 
  the side?WinAt 09:18 AM 4/5/2006, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:
  NO, I mean from the 
side.

  
On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:

Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in 
manual chairs?
What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be 
able to do it
into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs 
each!
Thanks 
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Not with this pressure sore I've been fighting. I did great with the 
J2.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brien 
  To: Stacy Harim 
  Cc: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; ~LittleQuad~ 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:05 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  Howbout a firm cushion so that you are closer in height to your 
  wheelchair when you sit on lower spaces? 
  
  Brien
  
  On Apr 2, 2006, at 6:42 AM, Stacy Harim wrote:
  

I'm T 7 
with a long torso so my transfers are just OK. I scoot more than up 
and over. I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get 
out. I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my 
butt up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to 
me.

Stacy

  - Original Message 
  -
  From: 
  ~LittleQuad~
  To: 
  Win ; 
  quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: 
  Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: 
  [QUAD-L] Transfers
  I 
  fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, have minimum 
  tricepsWin 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  Stupid question here 
but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is 
that your level of function? For example, I 
broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's 
where the spinal cord got 
severed.).One 
thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able 
to 
transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up 
off 
the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been 
just amazed. But, those 
that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to 
have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except 
there is no way I can get 
off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 
02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do 
my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to 
toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at 
times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can 
transfer into and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all 
my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 
c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal 
Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ 
To: Quad-list post 
Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 
21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] 
TransfersHow many of you can 
transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

Front? How is it possible?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Win 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about transfers 
  from the front, instead of the side. Is that right LittleQuad? I'm like 
  you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the side. Which means no 
  need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to toilet and bathtub, I do 
  my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove footrests for those.Win 
  C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien wrote:I transfer 
  into a power chair. With the armrest all the way 
  backand behind the cushion, there is no obstruction 
  to slidingdirectly onto the cushion. What do you mean 
  about legs what legs?Here is the url for my chair notice 
  the footrests are not in theway at 
  allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
  prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's 
  figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 
  PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm 
  assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do you use? I am 
  obviously not going to be able to do itinto a electric wheelchair. 
  The legs are like 8 lbs 
each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[~LittleQuad~]

NO, I mean from the side.Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Front? How is it possible?Stacy- Original Message -   From: Win   To: quad-list@eskimo.com   Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9!
 :57
 PM  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  Chairs  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about transfers from the front, instead of the side. Is that right LittleQuad? I'm like you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the side. Which means no need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to toilet and bathtub, I do my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove footrests for those.Win C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien wrote:I transfer into a power chair. With the armrest all the way backand behind the cushion, there is no obstruction to slidingdirectly onto the cushion. What do you mean about legs what legs?Here is the url for my chair notice the footrests are not in theway at allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/
 prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do itinto a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Win]

Why would you need to remove your footrests if you're doing a transfer
from the side?
Win
At 09:18 AM 4/5/2006, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:
NO, I mean from the
side.





On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:



Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual
chairs?

What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to
do it

into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs
each!

Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[~LittleQuad~]

well to tell the truth i don't know!! i suppose the PT assumes we must... they stick out to the front and is kind of hard to go overthem, but not as hard as removing them...Win [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Why would you need to remove your footrests if you're doing a transfer from the side?WinAt 09:18 AM 4/5/2006, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:  NO, I mean from the side.  On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?  What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it  into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!  Thanks 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[tahouston]

You absolutely correct about the Roho 
cushion. To overcome that problem, you just have to live chair butt a 
little higher instead of sliding. I also slide into an electric 
wheelchair. Without obstruction from the armrests I can slide right in 
without having to angle the chair.

T. Houston

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stacy Harim 
  To: Quad-list post ; ~LittleQuad~ 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:44 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  
  Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue with 
  the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of between 
  my butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken only when 
  I'm half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer have that 
  issue?
  
  Stacy
  
- Original Message - 
From: ~LittleQuad~ 
To: Quad-list post 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 
PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
Chairs

Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What 
kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a 
electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[tahouston]

I keep the foot rests on because it helps with 
my balancing and I don't have to lift my legs from the floor to the 
bed.

T. Houston

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  KK Batte 
  To: quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 6:53 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  Where you foot pad is, I decided to get articulating legs that 
  raise up  down. Helps prevent swelling in 
  legs. Now for transferring, it is easiest to 
  remove the leg closest to whatever I am transferring into. My 
  chair is a Quantum rehab chair.My legs are heavy  only have one 
  arm to use  do manage it.KKOn Apr 4, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Brien 
  wrote: I transfer into a power chair. With 
  the armrest all the way  back and behind the cushion, there 
  is no obstruction to sliding  directly onto 
  the cushion. What do you mean about legs what legs?  
  Here is the url for my chair notice the footrests are not in 
  the  way at all http://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
   
  prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369 
  Let's figure this out Brien On Apr 2, 2006, at 
  12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote: Those of you who transfer, 
  I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?  What kind do you 
  use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it  into a 
  electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
  Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Brien]

Howbout a firm cushion so that you are closer in height to your wheelchair when you sit on lower spaces?BrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 6:42 AM, Stacy Harim wrote:I'm T 7 with a long torso so my transfers are just OK.  I scoot more than up and over.   I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get out.  I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my butt up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to me. Stacy- Original Message -From: ~LittleQuad~To: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] TransfersI fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, have minimum tricepsWin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Stupid question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfer into and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ To: Quad-list post Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Brien]

I  transfer into  a power chair.   With the armrest all the way back  
and behind the cushion, there is  no obstruction  to  sliding  
directly onto the cushion.  What do you mean about legs what legs?   
Here is the url  for my  chair notice the footrests are not in the  
way at all


http://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369


Let's figure this out

Brien

On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:

Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?  
What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it  
into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!

Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue with 
the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of between my 
butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken only when I'm 
half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer have that 
issue?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 
PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What 
  kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a electric 
  wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
  Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[KK Batte]

Where you foot pad is, I decided to get articulating legs that raise  
up  down. Helps prevent swelling in legs.Now for transferring,  
it is easiest to remove the leg closest to whatever I am transferring  
into.  My chair is a Quantum rehab chair.


My legs are heavy  only have one arm to use  do manage it.

KK
On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Brien wrote:

I  transfer into  a power chair.   With the armrest all the way  
back and behind the cushion, there is  no obstruction  to  sliding  
directly onto the cushion.  What do you mean about legs what legs?   
Here is the url  for my  chair notice the footrests are not in the  
way at all


http://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369


Let's figure this out

Brien

On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:

Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?  
What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it  
into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!

Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Win]

I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about transfers from 
the front, instead of the side. Is that right LittleQuad? I'm like 
you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the side. Which means 
no need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to toilet and 
bathtub, I do my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove footrests for those.


Win C7-T1

At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien wrote:

I  transfer into  a power chair.   With the armrest all the way back
and behind the cushion, there is  no obstruction  to  sliding
directly onto the cushion.  What do you mean about legs what legs?
Here is the url  for my  chair notice the footrests are not in the
way at all

http://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369


Let's figure this out

Brien

On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:


Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?
What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it
into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!
Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Paul,A person stands in front of me and I wrap my arms around their shoulders/neck and they wrap their arms around me under my arms, then they stand-up and pivot me so my butt is facing the bed/chair, and thenthey set me down. Because I only have a left leg the pivot is always to my left, but with two legs the pivot can go either way. I hope this is clear.With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What is standing pivot?- Original Message -   From: David K. Kelmer   To: ~LittleQuad~ ; Quad-list post   Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:32 PM  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] TransfersHi LQ,Back when I was younger than I am now, I could do a bed-to-chair transfer, and back,using a slid board. These days I do a standing pivot transfer back and forth from bed to chair. With Love,  CtrlA!
 ltDel aka
 DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA   ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?  thanks

[QUAD-L] Transfers

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 4/3/2006 5:09:54 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The "Classic" single person pivot transfer. With some people you can 
induce a spasm to aid in lifting. Just make sure that they don't jump over 
your head as you are lifting, lol.
W




  Hi Paul,
  
  A person stands in front of me and I wrap my arms around their 
  shoulders/neck and they wrap their arms around me under my arms, then they 
  stand-up and pivot me so my butt is facing the bed/chair, and thenthey 
  set me down. Because I only have a left leg the pivot is always to my 
  left, but with two legs the pivot can go either way. I hope this is 
  clear.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[David K. Kelmer]

Yes, I was using a manual back then.~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!   Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

I'm T 7 with a long torso so my transfers are just OK. I scoot more 
than up and over. I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get 
out. I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my butt 
up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to me.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  I fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, 
  have minimum tricepsWin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Stupid 
question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your 
fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke 
c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the 
spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big 
difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their 
arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs 
by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen 
manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my 
transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back 
into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to 
bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to toilet chair and 
back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a 
big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfer into and have my 
legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite 
chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post 
this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal 
Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Quad-list post 
<QUAD-LIST@ESKIMO.COM>Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 
(PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can 
transfer alone? if so what level are 
  you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

i'm a scooter too... i have trouble getting yleft arm to extend backwards... the pec muscle is tight and i'm working on it... when i losen it and can work it evenly with my right arm i think i'll have better shot..Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm T 7 with a long torso so my transfers are just OK. I scoot more than up and over. I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get out. I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my butt up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to me.Stacy- Original Message -   From: ~LittleQuad~   To: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com   Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 PM  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  I fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, have minimum tricepsWin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Stupid question here but when yo!
 u say
 you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfe!
 r into
 and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Quad-list post <QUAD-LIST@ESKIMO.COM>Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

[QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[~LittleQuad~]

Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each!   Thanks

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Oconnelldb]

i stand to transfer when there's a helper to catch me. i stood to put 
my chair into my car for 35 years. now gravity is winning over. 
mostly now i slide to transfer. 
dave -- c3 incomplete. www.daveoconnell.com 


In a message dated 4/1/2006 11:13:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am 
  c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or higher 
  transfer?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
  TransfersDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 ESTIn 
  a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard 
  Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:How many of you can 
  transfer alone? if so what level are 
  you?thanksThat could provide you with 
  some suprising answers Amy. The level of 
  injurydoesn't always rule out being able to transfer. 
  I've seen C-4s tranferswith no assistance or 
  problems.I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a 
  transfer without somekind of assistance. Enjoy the 
  responses.W

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
  thanks

That could provide you with some suprising answers Amy. The level of 
injury doesn't always rule out being able to transfer. I've seen C-4s 
tranfers with no assistance or problems.
I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a transfer without 
some kind of assistance. Enjoy the responses.
W

FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[William Willis]

I am c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or 
higher transfer?





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 EST


In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
thanks



That could provide you with some suprising answers Amy.  The level of  
injury

doesn't always rule out being able to transfer.  I've seen C-4s  tranfers
with no assistance or problems.
I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a transfer without  
some

kind of assistance.  Enjoy the responses.
W

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Danny Hearn]

I'm a c-6 and can't transfer-- my wife never had patience to ever let me tryshe never even lets me get in my manual chair to try.she say's power chair or stay in bed..so a person has to live his or her life according to each situation. DanWilliam Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or higher transfer?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] TransfersDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 ESTIn a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanksThat could provide you with so!
 me
 suprising answers Amy. The level of injurydoesn't always rule out being able to transfer. I've seen C-4s tranferswith no assistance or problems.I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a transfer without somekind of assistance. Enjoy the responses.W

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[radnbadatpj]

Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the family room I can transfer into and have my legs put up on the outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it, its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post thisMarch 17th 45yrs old, AZ


Original Message-
From: ~LittleQuad~ littlequad@yahoo.comTo: Quad-list post [EMAIL PROTECTED]comSent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers



How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Win]

Stupid question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where 
your fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, 
I broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's 
where the spinal cord got severed.).


One thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able 
to transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up 
off the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been 
just amazed. But, those that I've seen manage to do that, always seem 
to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except 
there is no way I can get off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.


Win

At 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to 
bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of 
being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the 
family room I can transfer into and have my legs put up on the 
outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it, 
its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZ



Original Message-

From: ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Quad-list post quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers

How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
thanks

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

dan... what the heck?? now I may have a crappy excuse, mattress isn't hard enough, but wife won't let me?? omgosh! tell her if you learned she wouldn't have to do it!!!  if that's ok with you then just ignore my post...  --littlequadDanny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm a c-6 and can't transfer-- my wife never had patience to ever let me tryshe never even lets me get in my manual chair to try.she say's power chair or stay in bed..so a person has to live his or her life according to each situation. DanWilliam Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am c5 with no triceps. I ca!
 nnot
 transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or higher transfer?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] TransfersDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 ESTIn a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanksThat could provide you with so! me suprising answers Amy. The level of injurydoesn't always rule out being able to transfer. I've seen C-4s tranferswith no assistance or problems.I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a transfer without somekind of assistance. Enjoy the responses.W

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

I fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, have minimum tricepsWin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Stupid question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfer into and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Quad-list post Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[radnbadatpj]

Well I beleive thats my level of function, I was shot in the throat in a hunting accident and it severed my spine between the c-5 c-6, and before my accident I was 5'8 my arms were short and stocky lol. Ray:-)
-Original Message-From: Win [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:48:40 -0600Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers


Stupid question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to !
  bed also from bed to toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfer into and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Quad-list post quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi LQ,Back when I was younger than I am now, I could do a bed-to-chair transfer, and back,using a slid board. These days I do a standing pivot transfer back and forth from bed to chair. With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA   ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?  thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Paul Jacobson]

What is standing pivot?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David K. Kelmer 
  To: ~LittleQuad~ ; Quad-list 
  post 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:32 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  Hi LQ,
  
  Back when I was younger than I am now, I could do a bed-to-chair 
  transfer, and back,using a slid board. These days I do a standing 
  pivot transfer back and forth from bed to chair. 
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA 
  ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
thanks

Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[DeLiMiTeD4]

I transfered for 17 years then slipped and really hurt my femur badly. It is called a dystall femur fracture, looks like a hammered tent peg. Still causes awesome spasms and pain that while I can't feel it with any intensity, It can trigger AD whenever it is in the mood. I don't have the balance to transfer now, probably not the strength either.

john

In a message dated 4/1/2006 1:13:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or higher transfer?

Re: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[tahouston]

I am c5-c6 complete post 12 years this May, 50 
years old, no triceps onright side , very little on left side and have 
been transferring both in and out for 5 years w/sliding board.
T Houston, Chicago

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  William 
  Willis 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:12 
  PM
  Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  I am c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can 
  anyone here c5 or higher transfer?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: 
  Re: [QUAD-L] TransfersDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 
  ESTIn a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central 
  Standard Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:How many of 
  you can transfer alone? if so what level are 
  you?thanksThat could provide you with 
  some suprising answers Amy. The level of 
  injurydoesn't always rule out being able to transfer. 
  I've seen C-4s tranferswith no assistance or 
  problems.I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a 
  transfer without somekind of assistance. Enjoy the 
  responses.W

RE: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Susan Johnson]

My father could transfer alone at C3, C4 partial, however his shoulders have
really gotten worse and are currently the main focus for repair.

-Original Message-
From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:12 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers


I am c5 with no triceps. I cannot transfer alone. Can anyone here c5 or 
higher transfer?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:44:05 EST


In a message dated 3/31/2006 11:15:42 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?
thanks



That could provide you with some suprising answers Amy.  The level of  
injury
doesn't always rule out being able to transfer.  I've seen C-4s  tranfers
with no assistance or problems.
I've also seen C7 who could not or would not attempt a transfer without  
some
kind of assistance.  Enjoy the responses.
W

[QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

How many of you can transfer alone? if so what level are you?  thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[tahouston]

I know that when the doctors told me that 
I was C5-C6 complete, all I wanted to be was a sea C8 with enough dexterity to 
use my hands, you as a screwdriver or just write without an aide. At the 
rehab, everyone I conversed with wanted to be just one or two levels more than 
what they were.

Tom Houston

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stacy Harim 
  To: Houston809 ; dave 
  oconnell ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; David K. Kelmer 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  Houston, 
  
  I've had a taste ofboth levels. I was a quad when I got out 
  of my coma. I just thought that I would love it if I could use my 
  arms. I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed 
  rightbelow my chest. I think quads want to be paras and paras want to 
  walk. AB's want a better life, etc.. It goes on and on. 
  Everyone wants something better than what they have.
  
  Stacy
  
- Original Message - 
From: David K. Kelmer 
To: Houston809 ; dave 
oconnell ; Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:01 
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers


Hi Houston,

I agree with you about Dave. I think we all are super just by 
showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we 
can to live a good life. Each day adds up, and as the years go by we 
learn a little more about ourselves. I hope yours is a lucky 7. 
:)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
USA 
Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
Dave,You sound 2 be a 
  super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve 
  met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk I 
  like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a 
  little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston 
  On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a 
few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with 
short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional 
out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a 
incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into 
the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy 
enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van 
with a ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to 
have an a/b around in case i fall. getting up is outside my 
abilities. i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from 
triggered leg spasms to get there. i use back and leg muscles to 
get onto the raised jon. i really would like to offer more help to 
you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common. 
i do suffer from many of the ills and dep! ressions 
described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in 
many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon 
stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they 
are you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help 
from anyone around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless 
situations. not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the 
winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the 
end.DaveStacy Harim 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, 
  that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
  cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
  paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression 
  b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like 
  yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very 
  impressed by you.Stacy
  - Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
AMSubject: [QUAD-L] TransfersIn a message dated 
8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 
writes:
hey 
  paulcan you do a weight 
  shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that 
  would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very 
  weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without 
  sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower 
  chair, stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help 
  me move. when i start to lean forward my spasms 
  automatically kick in to help me lean back. when you first 
  start transfering you'll have 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Ol' Man River]

i hear ya tom. i'm a c3 partial "super-quad" and i'd give my left nut to be able to crap like my wife. we all seem to want just that little more than we got - i guess all things are relative aren't they? on judgement day - this nightmare goes away and we will answer all questions based on our current abilities. hopefully we can all say, "i did the best with what i had." keep stroken' dude. grades are for effort not accomplishments. dave

tahouston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I know that when the doctors told me that I was C5-C6 complete, all I wanted to be was a sea C8 with enough dexterity to use my hands, you as a screwdriver or just write without an aide. At the rehab, everyone I conversed with wanted to be just one or two levels more than what they were.

Tom Houston

- Original Message - 
From: Stacy Harim 
To: Houston809 ; dave oconnell ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; David K. Kelmer 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers


Houston, 

I've had a taste ofboth levels. I was a quad when I got out of my coma. I just thought that I would love it if I could use my arms. I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed rightbelow my chest. I think quads want to be paras and paras want to walk. AB's want a better life, etc.. It goes on and on. Everyone wants something better than what they have.

Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: David K. Kelmer 
To: Houston809 ; dave oconnell ; Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers


Hi Houston,

I agree with you about Dave. I think we all are super just by showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we can to live a good life. Each day adds up, and as the years go by we learn a little more about ourselves. I hope yours is a lucky 7. :)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,You sound 2 be a super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk I like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common. i d!
 o suffer
 from many of the ills and dep! ressions described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.DaveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.Stacy
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:
hey paulcan you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back. when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON W

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[TheOmen723]

i to am c-5/6 without the use of my fingers and iwork at whatever it is i'm trying to do with my hands until i figure out a way get them to accommodate me. now people, a lot of times, can't even tell my hands are paralyzed.

In a message dated 8/26/2005 9:44:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I know that when the doctors told me that I was C5-C6 complete, all I wanted to be was a sea C8 with enough dexterity to use my hands, you as a screwdriver or just write without an aide. At the rehab, everyone I conversed with wanted to be just one or two levels more than what they were.

Tom Houston

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very impressiveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers


In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:

hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.when you first start transfering you'll have atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers



Dave,
You sound 2 be a super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. Ive met a few quads that stand, Ive only met 1 so far that actually walk . I like some others pray for medical break throughs. Id love 2 just have a little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.
Houston 

On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, Ol' Man River [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common. i do suffer from many of the ills and dep! ressions described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.
Dave

Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers

In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back. when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Houston,

I agree with you about Dave. I think we all are super just by showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we can to live a good life. Each day adds up, and as the years go by we learn a little more about ourselves. I hope yours is a lucky 7. :)

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave,You sound 2 be a super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk . I like some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a incomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common. i d!
 o suffer
 from many of the ills and dep! ressions described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.DaveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.Stacy
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:
hey paulcan you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me lean back. when you first start transfering you'll have a tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the
 floorDave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Houston, 

I've had a taste ofboth levels. I was a quad when I got out of 
my coma. I just thought that I would love it if I could use my arms. 
I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed rightbelow my chest. 
I think quads want to be paras and paras want to walk. AB's want a better 
life, etc.. It goes on and on. Everyone wants something better than 
what they have.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Houston809 ; dave 
  oconnell ; Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  Hi Houston,
  
  I agree with you about Dave. I think we all are super just by 
  showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we 
  can to live a good life. Each day adds up, and as the years go by we 
  learn a little more about ourselves. I hope yours is a lucky 7. 
  :)
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA 
  Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Dave,You sound 2 be a 
super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met 
a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk  I like 
some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little 
more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 
8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a 
  few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with 
  short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out 
  in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a incomplete 
  c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat 
  of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such 
  activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. 
  i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b 
  around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i 
  drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms 
  to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. 
  i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's 
  evident we don't have all that much in common. i do suffer from many 
  of the ills and dep! ressions described on here and of course 
  am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. 
  heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking 
  fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do 
  however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around 
  women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not 
  my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never 
  give up - persistence wins in the 
  end.DaveStacy Harim 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow, 
that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression 
b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like 
yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very 
impressed by you.Stacy
- 
  Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 
  23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] 
  TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard 
  Time, TheOmen723 writes:
  hey 
paulcan you do a weight shift 
in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be 
a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts 
and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for 
couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and 
bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i 
start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me 
lean back. when you first start transfering you'll have a 
tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide 
away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and 
move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer 
(KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't 
feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. i'd 
rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floorDave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

That is awesome. I've tried and tried in rehab and just can't. 
I hear so many stories and watch the real world and one of the girls in dating a 
para, he got in the van without a board. It is so impressive. Im not mad 
that that I have to use one cuz it could always be worse than it is.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list 
  post 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never 
  has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very 
  impressiveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  




Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I 
am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does 
with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or 
turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting 
point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have 
been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of 
years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and 
bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start 
to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean 
back.when you first start transfering you'll have 
atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit 
willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to 
lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a 
transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real 
bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floor

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[~LittleQuad~]

right because i cant at allwe should be grateful for what we have instead of griping for moreStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



That is awesome. I've tried and tried in rehab and just can't. I hear so many stories and watch the real world and one of the girls in dating a para, he got in the van without a board. It is so impressive. Im not mad that that I have to use one cuz it could always be worse than it is.

Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: ~LittleQuad~ 
To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list post 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very impressiveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers


In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:

hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.when you first start transfering you'll have atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Jkrocks]

 

Paul,

I'm a C-5/6 incomplete and I'm unable to transfer myself. I think 
before you start trying to transfer yourself first get evaluated by your local 
rehab. if you are able to transfer yourself to your local rehab will be 
able to show you the proper way. I don'tthink you wantto end 
up on the ground in some type of funky position.

Jim

[QUAD-L] Transfers

[wheelchair]

I'm in full agreement with Jim! Transferring a Quad, is not always an easy 
task.
For most, it requires plenty of training and testing.  There is only one way 
to
achieve that. The right way!
First, the body must be strong enough to effect a transfer.  Brittle bones 
will
snap under unnecessary strain.  Those bones must be toughen with resistance
exercise before they can be considered for performing transfers.  Muscles must
be tested and trained for lifting and twisting, otherwise, you are facing 
weeks
and months of rest from strained muscles and joints.
A certified OT, is trained and certified to evaluate an individual's 
abilities and
help determine the best, least stressful, least harmful way to perform the 
task
of transferring.
Best Wishes!
W


In a message dated 8/23/05 9:25:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm a C-5/6 incomplete and I'm unable to transfer myself.  I think  before 
you start trying to transfer yourself first get evaluated by your local  
rehab.  
if you are able to transfer yourself to your local rehab will be  able to 
show you the proper way.  I don't think you want to end  up on the ground in 
some 
type of funky position.
 
Jim 

[QUAD-L] Transfers

[TheOmen723]

In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 
writes:

  hey paul
  
  can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn 
  yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point.i'm 
  c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been transfering 
  independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to 
  the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to 
  help me move. when i start to lean forward myspasms automatically 
  kick in to help me lean back.when you first start transfering 
  you'll have atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit 
  willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift 
  and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer 
  (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't 
  feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 
  
  i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor
  


---BeginMessage---




hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn 
yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point.i'm 
c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been transfering 
independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to 
the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help 
me move. when i start to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in 
to help me lean back.when you first start transfering you'll have 
atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit 
willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and 
move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer 
(KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't 
feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

luke

In a message dated 8/22/2005 7:08:27 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi Everyone,
  
  I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to 
  bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? Any 
  tips or techniques or equipment to help me?
  
  Thanks Paul



---End Message---

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers



Im a C6 C7 I do sliding board transfers. I can get my legs onto bed myself or rather could a few yrs ago. Ive been letting my aids ut my feet up onto bed after I slide over. 


On 8/22/05 9:46 PM, Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I saw a video of a quad transferring himself once but can't remember where. He had an L shaped transfer board and it had straps somehow. I think he slid his hands in the straps, transferred himself and picked his legs up w/the board. The video didn't show how he took his hands out of the straps or anything. It was a long time ago.

Good luck Paul,
Stacy
 
- Original Message - 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: quad-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:07 PM

Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers



Hi Everyone,



I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? Any tips or techniques or equipment to help me?



Thanks Paul

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am 
way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you 
as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn 
yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting 
point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been 
transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. 
i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone 
in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward 
myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.when 
you first start transfering you'll have atendency to scoot, which if 
you're in manual chairit willslide away from you. i use my 
tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on 
the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my 
tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, 
though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Ol' Man River]

when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm aincomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we don't have all that much in common. i do suffer from many of the ills and dep!
 ressions
 described on here and of course am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never give up - persistence wins in the end.
DaveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

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Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers


In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, TheOmen723 writes:

hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting point.I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.when you first start transfering you'll have atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor


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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[TheOmen723]

I LET MY SPASMS HELP ME WITH MY FEET. ONCE I HAVE MY BUTT ON THE BED 
I LEAN BACK AND MY LEGS NATURALLY FOLLOW. THEN I USE MY TRAPESE BAR TO 
HELP MYSELF STRAIGHTEN OUT. I USE TO TRANSFER TO A REGULAR MATTRESS WHICH 
WAS EASY BUT NOW I HAVE A PRODIGY AIR MATTRESS WHICH MAKES MOVING WHILE I'M IN 
THE BEDAND IN/OUT OF BED MORE DIFFICULT. 

LUKE


In a message dated 8/23/2005 2:22:50 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I’m a C6 C7 I do sliding board 
  transfers. I can get my legs onto bed myself or rather could a few yrs ago. 
  I’ve been letting my aids ut my feet up onto bed after I slide over. 
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[DeLiMiTeD4]

Dave is right, Never give up, and always ask a pretty girl for help..unless 
you prefer guys.

lol,
john


In a message dated 8/23/2005 5:27:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 
  we had a few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked 
  with short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional 
  out in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm 
  aincomplete c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into 
  the back seat of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough 
  for such activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a 
  ramp. i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b 
  around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i drag 
  my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms to get 
  there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. i 
  really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's evident we 
  don't have all that much in common. i do suffer from many of the ills 
  and dep! ressions described on here and of course am just as helpless as any 
  quad in many public situations. heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon 
  stalls, high drinking fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are 
  you. i do however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone 
  around women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. 
  not my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never 
  give up - persistence wins in the end.
  DaveStacy Harim 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  




Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I 
am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does 
with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or 
turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting 
point.I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have 
been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of 
years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and 
bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start 
to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean 
back.when you first start transfering you'll have 
atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit 
willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to 
lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a 
transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real 
bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floor

  
  
  Dave - C3, 1967, 
  Phoenix AZ
  __Do You 
  Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
  http://mail.yahoo.com 

[QUAD-L] Transfers

[paul38]

Hi Everyone,

I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? Any tips or techniques or equipment to help me?

Thanks Paul

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[jtc6quad]

 Hi Paul,
I am a C5/6 incomplete. I do have some triceps now through electric 
stimulation.  At first I didn't have any. Do you have inervasion in your 
deltoids?

  I have been practicing slide - board transfers since I was able to sit up in 
rehab.  Then I still needed assistance, but as a built-up my shoulders I needed 
less and less help.  But I have heard of 5/6's becoming independent with a 
sideboard.

  I remember in rehab doing different exercises to build deltoids, there was 
one piece of equipment called a rick shaw, where you back in with a wheelchair 
and pushed down to lift weights behind you?  If that makes sense.

  I'm still not completely independent, I still need a spotter and have been 
practicing with my physical therapists, using my leg straps, and have been 
about 50% successful at not needing any help.  All of this sure beats using a 
lift.

Good luck, JT

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to 
 bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? 
 Any tips or techniques or equipment to help me?
 
 Thanks Paul

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

I saw a video of a quad transferring himself once but can't remember 
where. He had an L shaped transfer board and it had straps somehow. 
I think he slid his hands in the straps, transferred himself and picked his legs 
up w/the board. The video didn't show how he took his hands out of the 
straps or anything. It was a long time ago.

Good luck Paul,
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:07 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  Hi Everyone,
  
  I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to 
  bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? Any 
  tips or techniques or equipment to help me?
  
  Thanks Paul