Re: [QUAD-L] hi friends, it's Annette

[Johnny Cammon]

Merry Christmas Annette an a Happy New Year to you also...i'm glad you have
got your emails coming back in correctly

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Annette Storesund 
wrote:

> Merry Christmas an Happy New Year!
>
> I had to unsubscribe on the email I first was using.  It was messing up so
> I decided it would be better to and an email that was devoted to the Quad
> group.
> I look forward to being able to see the emails better and responding
> easier.
>
> Enjoy your day
>

Re: [QUAD-L] hi again, it is Annette

[jume9999]

Thanks for sharing Annette, I also broke my neck in 81. Do you have any 
feeling?Meredith
Sent from my LG Mobile



-- Original message--From: Annette Storesund Date: Mon, Dec 19, 2016 
6:38 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.com;Subject:[QUAD-L] hi again, it is Annette
Some asked about my accident and life soooHere is a summery of me:   May 
30/31st at 1am 1981, I was driving a good friend on on a freshly graveled road. 
 I was driving a station wagon Pinto.  A very light car.  I hit loose gravel 
lost control and rolled it into a very deep ditch.  Of course back then no one 
wore seatbelts.  My friends fell out of the car and I was thrown through the 
windshield.  How that happen is beyond everyone because there is very little 
room between the steer wheel and roof, that is probably why when I went out my 
forehead hit the rim where the windshield was attached.  It caused my neck to 
bend backward breaking at an angel of C5,6,7 and scalping me in an L shape.  
They doctors at the time thought the spinal cord was completely severed once I 
was able to get an MRI years later they found there was a little still attached 
which expand how I had full use of shoulders and biceps.  I was lucky my friend 
was able to get up and go get help because I was laying in the middle of the 
gravel road and no one would have seen me until it was too late so God was 
watching over me that way.  I was blessed with no internal injuries and no 
brain damage.  Luckily my scalp was able to be cleaned and folded back in 
place.  Surprisingly my hair even grew back which they did not expect.The 
ambulance driver and attendant were family friends, it was harder on them 
seeing someone they knew.  But it was a small community so I am sure they knew 
everyone they helped.  I was taken to a local hospital then Life flown to Iowa 
Methodist Medical Center/hospital IN Des Moines IA where I spent three weeks in 
ICU, 3 weeks in the hospital the went Younkers which was attached to IMMC. I  
was there from the beginning of July until January 1st 1982.  I was able to 
stay caught up with my senior class while I was in Yonkers.  When I got out I 
joined my class of 34(that is including me.)  I graduated with them.Small town 
people rally together and help.  Thanks to my classmates which I had gone to 
school with since I was in Kindergarten, other friends from surrounding 
communities, family and so many others.   

RE: [QUAD-L] hi

[Nichole Rohling]

It is better, still open a bit but most redness is gone! 

 

I have a son who is 31 and two grandchildren by him and his wife (high school 
sweetheart) and a daughter who is 20, got married in May and moved to Guam with 
her husband who is in the Army.

 

God bless you and Merry Christmas.

 

Nicki 

 

From: Annette Storesund [mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 6:12 AM
To: Nichole Rohling
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi

 

Thanks Nichole!

 

How is your sore?

 

I posted another email talking about me more. In the  subject line it says  “hi 
again, it is Annette”  I added pictures of my writing device.

 

I am 52.  Married  my high school sweetheart in 1986.  We have a son who was 
born in 1997...19yrs old now.

 

Merry Christmas

 

Annette Storesund

wife and mom

 

From: Nichole Rohling 

Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:35 PM

To: 'Annette Storesund' 

Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] hi

 

Yes, was a lot better in 24 hours

 

Nicki

 

From: Annette Storesund [mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 8:39 AM
To: Nichole Rohling
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi

 

I am so glad.  have u tried my suggestion?

 

From: Nichole Rohling 

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 3:48 PM

To: 'Annette Storesund' ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] hi

 

Glad you are here Annette, you already helped me!

 

Nicki

 

From: Annette Storesund [mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:59 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi

 

I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit from 
like she does.

 

My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal cord has only a few 
strains still connected. 

I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high school.  I am 
a 35 plus year survivor.

 

I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if 
someone is interested just ask.

 

I look forward to being part of this group.

 

Annette

Re: [QUAD-L] hi

[Ed Tessier]

Welcome Annette

C5/6, 35 years post (was 16 at injury), married, four sons, real estate
developer.

I enjoy this group for hearing about best practices, new technology,  and
especially seeing that other quards are living decades longer than doctors
once thought possible



On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Joan Anglin  wrote:

> Ha Ha
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* 16 December, 2016 8:59 AM
> *To:* wheelch...@aol.com; Quad-list Post 
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] hi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Welcome, Annette. Look, no hand-use, Ma, 35 years post, two months before
> graduating high school; now MBA, married, divorced, full-time job with
> Feds, my own house, just wish I would have made it accessible so I could go
> inside :-)
>
>
> Jeff
> --
>
> *From:* "wheelch...@aol.com" 
> *To:* atsxn...@mchsi.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 5:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] hi
>
>
>
> Welcome Annette!  What have you done since? There are so many here willing
> to share their stories and experiences.  Again, Welcome.
>
>
>
> Best Wishes
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/16/2016 5:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> atsxn...@mchsi.com writes:
>
> I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit
> from like she does.
>
>
>
> My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal cord has only
> a few strains still connected.
>
> I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high school.
> I am a 35 plus year survivor.
>
>
>
> I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if
> someone is interested just ask.
>
>
>
> I look forward to being part of this group.
>
>
>
> Annette
>
>
>

RE: [QUAD-L] hi

[Joan Anglin]

Ha Ha 

 

From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 16 December, 2016 8:59 AM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; Quad-list Post 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi

 

 


Welcome, Annette. Look, no hand-use, Ma, 35 years post, two months before 
graduating high school; now MBA, married, divorced, full-time job with Feds, my 
own house, just wish I would have made it accessible so I could go inside :-)


Jeff

  _  

From: "wheelch...@aol.com <mailto:wheelch...@aol.com> " mailto:wheelch...@aol.com> >
To: atsxn...@mchsi.com <mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com> ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
<mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com>  
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi

 

Welcome Annette!  What have you done since? There are so many here willing to 
share their stories and experiences.  Again, Welcome.

 

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 12/16/2016 5:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
atsxn...@mchsi.com <mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com>  writes:

I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit from 
like she does.

 

My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal cord has only a few 
strains still connected. 

I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high school.  I am 
a 35 plus year survivor.

 

I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if 
someone is interested just ask.

 

I look forward to being part of this group.

 

Annette

 

RE: [QUAD-L] hi

[Nichole Rohling]

Glad you are here Annette, you already helped me!

 

Nicki

 

From: Annette Storesund [mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:59 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi

 

I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit from 
like she does.

 

My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal cord has only a few 
strains still connected. 

I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high school.  I am 
a 35 plus year survivor.

 

I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if 
someone is interested just ask.

 

I look forward to being part of this group.

 

Annette

Re: [QUAD-L] hi

[Jeffrey Gaede]

Welcome, Annette. Look, no hand-use, Ma, 35 years post, two months before 
graduating high school; now MBA, married, divorced, full-time job with Feds, my 
own house, just wish I would have made it accessible so I could go inside :-)
Jeff
  From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
 To: atsxn...@mchsi.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi
   
Welcome Annette!  What have you done since? There are so many here willing to 
share their stories and experiences.  Again, Welcome. Best Wishes In a message 
dated 12/16/2016 5:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, atsxn...@mchsi.com writes:
  I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit from 
like she does.   My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal 
cord has only a few strains still connected.  I had my accident May 30th 1981 
just after my Junior year of high school.  I am a 35 plus year survivor.   I 
don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if someone 
is interested just ask.   I look forward to being part of this group.   Annette


   

RE: [QUAD-L] hi

[Joan Anglin]

Welcome aboard, this group has several Long lived quads, and we are a good 
listening group.  I’m Joan and live in Reno, Nevada  a complete C4 since 1991 
and still living life to the fullest.  Merry Christmas.

 

From: Annette Storesund [mailto:atsxn...@mchsi.com] 
Sent: 16 December, 2016 3:59 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi

 

I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit from 
like she does.

 

My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal cord has only a few 
strains still connected. 

I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high school.  I am 
a 35 plus year survivor.

 

I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if 
someone is interested just ask.

 

I look forward to being part of this group.

 

Annette

Re: [QUAD-L] hi

[wheelchair]

Welcome Annette!  What have you done since? There are so many here  willing 
to share their stories and experiences.  Again, Welcome.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/16/2016 5:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
atsxn...@mchsi.com writes:

 
I heard about this group from a friend and she thought I would benefit  
from like she does.
 
My name is Annette.  I am a level C 5/6/7 break.  My spinal  cord has only 
a few strains still connected. 
I had my accident May 30th 1981 just after my Junior year of high  school.  
I am a 35 plus year survivor.
 
I don’t mind being asked questions about my accident and life since so if  
someone is interested just ask.
 
I look forward to being part of this group.
 
Annette

Re: [QUAD-L] hi

[wheelchair]

Thomas, have you been hacked?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/30/2013 4:00:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
tecn...@sbcglobal.net writes:

hey check this out  http://www.com-im6.net/finance/

Thomas

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, Jackie

[Candle]

Sorry, Jackie, I never got your orginal post. You went through quite an ordeal, 
especially the part about not knowing if your son was alive. It sounds like he 
has come along ways surely because he had the help and support of you and your 
family. Family and friend support has got to be one of the greatest assets a 
spinal cord injury survivor has. The hospital and medical staff deals with the 
medical issues, but there is so much more that goes on in a person than what 
medical science can address. 
 
As tough as it has been for you, think of how far you and your family have 
come. He has accomplished a great deal and graduating law school. How wonderful 
is that? 
 
Welcome to the group and I look forward to your posts.

Candle 
http://community.webshots.com/user/Candle850
"Scars remind of us where we’ve been, they don’t have to dictate where we are 
going." ~David Rossi of Criminal Minds
***
 


  
On 9/29/2012 8:48 PM, lawyerboysmom wrote:  
>  
>>Hi. My name is Jackie and my son, Bobby was injured in December 2010 in a 
>>motor vehicle accident. He sustained a C6/C7 complete injury. He is now 28 
>>years old. The night of the accident he was out celebrating the end of the 
>>next to last semester of law school in a city about 4 hours from home. He was 
>>alone in the car and he slid on black ice and hit a tree, so thankfully, no 
>>one else was involved. I got that horrible phone call in the middle of the 
>>night and my husband was out of town. The police on the phone told me he was 
>>involved in a serious accident, but wouldn't tell me anything 
>>else...including whether or not he was alive. The policeman finally conceded 
>>that yes, he was alive, but I didn't believe him. I called my older son, and 
>>we took off. He tried calling the police back and they wouldn't tell him 
>>anything either. We drove down there convinced he was dead. We found a 
>>picture of the accident on the town's newspaper website while we drove, but
 it didn't say anything about the condition of the driver. I was too afraid to 
call the hospital, I didn't think we could take hearing that news on the road. 
Finally, my cell rang, and it was a nurse at the hospital. They found my number 
on a record he had there from some visit to the ER years before. She was like 
an angel on that phone...telling me he was alive! She put the doctor on the 
phone and that's when he told me Bobby hadn't moved his legs since they found 
him. That was devastating, but balanced against living or dead, not the worst, 
as I was expecting. My older son reminds me often that when we were driving 
down there I was begging God over and over to let him be alive, and that I 
would take care of him. So now, I am. And I am still grateful. I moved into his 
apartment for the two months he was in inpatient, then rehab, and ran my 
business as best I could from there. My family came down right after the 
accident, and again to celebrate Christmas
 with us. The law school very graciously put them up and brought us Christmas 
dinner. No one will ever forget that holiday. My husband was there on the 
weekends and as much as he could during the week. My friends were feeding my 
cats and arranging to get my house ready for Bobby to come home. I tried to get 
him transferred to a spinal cord unit at home, but he had no health insurance 
and I was in the process of getting him Medicaid qualified and they advised 
that he stay there. Finally he was able to come home, and we took him to be 
evaluated for outpatient treatment. They re-admitted him in a rehab close to 
home. We are lucky because he was a weightlifter in remarkable shape when this 
happened, so his upper body strength serves him well. He transfers and uses a 
wheelchair with"power wheels". He has since gone back to law school locally, 
served his externship in a local law office, and graduated from his original 
law school. He's taking the MPRE in
 November, and sits for the bar exam in February. He goes to a gym where they 
use the methods from Project Walk, and he still works out with weights. And, oh 
yeah, there's the girlfriend. She lives about two hours away and comes up every 
other week and stays for a few days at a time. His goal is to pass the bar, get 
a job and move out on his own with his girlfriend. I don't have to tell you 
that this is the hardest, most gut wrenching, emotional train wreck of an 
experience I could ever have Imagined. My beautiful perfect baby boy can't 
move, and I can't do anything to help him but to hope that medical science 
catches up with this soon enough to help him, and to try to make the best of a 
miserable situation. I am incredibly proud of him, and love him like nothing 
else, but some days it's hard to accept, and just hard to even get out of bed 
because the grief is so bad. But we do it...we have to...he needs me to be 
strong. Thank you for allowing 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

[Nan]

Hi Phil.
 
I correspond with a quad from Tauranga ... thought he used to be on the Q-List, 
but maybe not.  I've known him for so long I can't remember where I met him!  
Ha, my age is showing!!
 
This is a great place with many wonderful and helpful people.  Welcome!
 
Nan (in NY state)



From: Philip Wells 
To: Quad-List 
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 5:23 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

Hi Fellow List Members

I've been on this list for quite a long period now but don't often post.

My name is Philip Wells, I'm a C5 complete Quad, aged 47.

My injury was in 1979 from a rugby game when I suffered a double dislocation
of C4,5 & 6.

I live in a rural province of New Zealand called Taranaki, on my parents
dairy farm.

I worked for 20 after my accident as an Analyst/Programmer for a small
software development firm in a nearby town.

Nowdays my health is not really up to full time work so im in semi
retirement.

To give you an idea of the bits and pieces that enable me to live as
independantly as I can, here's my 'stuff'.

I've got a Quickie 626 SE powerchair, which I love for all sorts of reasons.

I have a 1996 Chevrolet G20 van with a 4" lowered floor and a Ricon rear
mounted hoist.

I sit on a Roho quattro cushion, which I find really good, not having spent
a day on bed rest for many years.

My interests are art, sport, music, the politic's of disability, motor &
horse racing.

Life has taken an exciting twist recently as my parents are shouting my
whole family (8 adults, 6 kids) to Disneyland in California for a week.

Can't wait, and im hopefuil of picking up a few hints from you all to make
my trip a little easier.

But without getting too carried away, hi to you all.

Best

philip

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

[DAANOO]

  
Hi Philip,

I hope you have a wonderful vacation. You are so blessed to be able to  
travel to Disneyland with your family.

Dana C4-5, 37 years
Welcome, Philip!

Steve - C4, 23 years

-Original  Message-
From: Philip Wells [mailto:p-we...@ihug.co.nz] 
Sent:  Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:24 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi From  New Zealand

Hi Fellow List Members

I've been on this list for  quite a long period now but don't often post.

My name is Philip Wells,  I'm a C5 complete Quad, aged 47.

My injury was in 1979 from a rugby game  when I suffered a double 
dislocation
of C4,5 & 6.

I live in a  rural province of New Zealand called Taranaki, on my parents
dairy  farm.

I worked for 20 after my accident as an Analyst/Programmer for a  small
software development firm in a nearby town.

Nowdays my health is  not really up to full time work so im in semi
retirement.

To give you  an idea of the bits and pieces that enable me to live as
independantly as I  can, here's my 'stuff'.

I've got a Quickie 626 SE powerchair, which I  love for all sorts of 
reasons.

I have a 1996 Chevrolet G20 van with a 4"  lowered floor and a Ricon rear
mounted hoist.

I sit on a Roho quattro  cushion, which I find really good, not having spent
a day on bed rest for  many years.

My interests are art, sport, music, the politic's of  disability, motor &
horse racing.

Life has taken an exciting twist  recently as my parents are shouting my
whole family (8 adults, 6 kids) to  Disneyland in California for a week.

Can't wait, and im hopefuil of  picking up a few hints from you all to make
my trip a little  easier.

But without getting too carried away, hi to you  all.

Best

philip

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

[Steve Oldaker]

Welcome, Philip!

Steve - C4, 23 years

-Original Message-
From: Philip Wells [mailto:p-we...@ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:24 PM
To: Quad-List
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

Hi Fellow List Members

I've been on this list for quite a long period now but don't often post.

My name is Philip Wells, I'm a C5 complete Quad, aged 47.

My injury was in 1979 from a rugby game when I suffered a double dislocation
of C4,5 & 6.

I live in a rural province of New Zealand called Taranaki, on my parents
dairy farm.

I worked for 20 after my accident as an Analyst/Programmer for a small
software development firm in a nearby town.

Nowdays my health is not really up to full time work so im in semi
retirement.

To give you an idea of the bits and pieces that enable me to live as
independantly as I can, here's my 'stuff'.

I've got a Quickie 626 SE powerchair, which I love for all sorts of reasons.

I have a 1996 Chevrolet G20 van with a 4" lowered floor and a Ricon rear
mounted hoist.

I sit on a Roho quattro cushion, which I find really good, not having spent
a day on bed rest for many years.

My interests are art, sport, music, the politic's of disability, motor &
horse racing.

Life has taken an exciting twist recently as my parents are shouting my
whole family (8 adults, 6 kids) to Disneyland in California for a week.

Can't wait, and im hopefuil of picking up a few hints from you all to make
my trip a little easier.

But without getting too carried away, hi to you all.

Best

philip

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi From New Zealand

[hellodaveoc]

I'm finding the ol' number 2 is giving me the biggest challenge in  
traveling.
a good helper is a must.
azdave
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/1/2011 2:23:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
p-we...@ihug.co.nz writes:

Hi  Fellow List Members

I've been on this list for quite a long period now  but don't often post.

My name is Philip Wells, I'm a C5 complete Quad,  aged 47.

My injury was in 1979 from a rugby game when I suffered a  double 
dislocation
of C4,5 & 6.

I live in a rural province of  New Zealand called Taranaki, on my parents
dairy farm.

I worked for  20 after my accident as an Analyst/Programmer for a small
software  development firm in a nearby town.

Nowdays my health is not really up  to full time work so im in semi
retirement.

To give you an idea of  the bits and pieces that enable me to live as
independantly as I can,  here's my 'stuff'.

I've got a Quickie 626 SE powerchair, which I love  for all sorts of 
reasons.

I have a 1996 Chevrolet G20 van with a 4"  lowered floor and a Ricon rear
mounted hoist.

I sit on a Roho  quattro cushion, which I find really good, not having spent
a day on bed  rest for many years.

My interests are art, sport, music, the politic's  of disability, motor &
horse racing.

Life has taken an exciting  twist recently as my parents are shouting my
whole family (8 adults, 6  kids) to Disneyland in California for a week.

Can't wait, and im  hopefuil of picking up a few hints from you all to make
my trip a little  easier.

But without getting too carried away, hi to you  all.

Best

philip

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[Arlo]

Sent from John-Arlo's iPhone

On May 28, 2011, at 8:25 AM, HOSNI AL-KHATIB  wrote:

> just a joke my friends
> 
> From: c5sc...@gmail.com
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:10:02 -0500
> 
> did u get it tho?  i mean i was, ha ha, then i read it from a jordanese 
> (probably totally screwed that up), then read it again and cracked a 
> smile...hey Hosni, can u explain it to a drunk westerner?
>  
> Eric W Rudd
> c5sc...@gmail.com
> - Original Message -
> From: diannal...@aol.com 
> To: hellodav...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler
> 
> In a message dated 5/27/2011 2:35:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> hellodav...@aol.com writes:
> you guys try this - tell me what happens.
> azdave
> just a joke.

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[wheelchair]

Thank You Hosni.  I missed a very good joke.  Its just that I  have way too 
much information, records and files that could have been corrupted  with a 
virus or worm.  You know what they say about an "ounce of  prevention"
Thanks You
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/28/2011 10:26:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hosnialkha...@hotmail.com writes:

just a  joke my friends

 

From: c5sc...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Hi Hitler
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:10:02 -0500

did u get it tho?  i mean i was, ha ha, then i  read it from a jordanese 
(probably totally screwed that up), then read it  again and cracked a 
smile...hey Hosni, can u explain it to a drunk  westerner?
 
Eric W Rudd
_c5sci97@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message - 
From:  _DiannaL767@aol.com_ (mailto:diannal...@aol.com)  
To: _hellodaveoc@aol.com_ (mailto:hellodav...@aol.com)  ; 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:01  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler



In a message dated 5/27/2011 2:35:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
_hellodaveoc@aol.com_ (mailto:hellodav...@aol.com)  writes:

you guys try this - tell me what happens.
azdave



just a  joke.

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[HOSNI AL-KHATIB]

just a joke my friends

From: c5sc...@gmail.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:10:02 -0500










did u get it tho?  i mean i was, ha ha, then i 
read it from a jordanese (probably totally screwed that up), then read it again 
and cracked a smile...hey Hosni, can u explain it to a drunk 
westerner?
 
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  diannal...@aol.com 
  To: hellodav...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler
  

  
  In a message dated 5/27/2011 2:35:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
hellodav...@aol.com writes:
  
you guys try this - tell me what happens.
azdave
  
  just a joke.

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[Daniel Espinoza]

Sounds likeAdware:Win32/Hithopper

 

update your antivirus/anti-malware/anti-spyware software

 

I found this site that may be of use to you
http://www.repairwindowserrors.com/virusdoshitler-b

check it out and let me know if you're still having problems

 

 

 

From: e m treston [mailto:missl...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:56 AM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

 

ditto...

 

  _  

From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:32 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

Well now.  When I receive email with that kind of subject matter, I have to
presume its spam or a virus.   Anyone else?

 

Best Wishes

 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[Eric W Rudd]

did u get it tho?  i mean i was, ha ha, then i read it from a jordanese 
(probably totally screwed that up), then read it again and cracked a 
smile...hey Hosni, can u explain it to a drunk westerner?

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: diannal...@aol.com 
  To: hellodav...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 7:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler


  In a message dated 5/27/2011 2:35:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
hellodav...@aol.com writes:
you guys try this - tell me what happens.
azdave
  just a joke.

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[DiannaL767]

 
In a message dated 5/27/2011 2:35:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
hellodav...@aol.com writes:

you guys try this - tell me what happens.
azdave



just a joke.

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[e m treston]

ditto...

  _  

From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:32 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler


Well now.  When I receive email with that kind of subject matter, I have to
presume its spam or a virus.   Anyone else?
 
Best Wishes
 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[Eric W Rudd]

just a joke

Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: hellodav...@aol.com 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler


  you guys try this - tell me what happens.
  azdave

  In a message dated 5/27/2011 10:15:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
hosnialkha...@hotmail.com writes:


HOSNI AL-KHATIB has sent you a link to a blog: 

Hi Hitler 

Blog: BRAVEHEART 
Post: Hi Hitler 
Link: 
http://hkbraveheart.blogspot.com/2011/05/hi-hitler.html 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Hitler

[hellodaveoc]

you guys try this - tell me what happens.
azdave
 
 
In a message dated 5/27/2011 10:15:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
hosnialkha...@hotmail.com writes:



HOSNI AL-KHATIB has sent you a link to a blog: 

Hi  Hitler 

Blog: BRAVEHEART 
Post: Hi Hitler 
Link:  
_http://hkbraveheart.blogspot.com/2011/05/hi-hitler.html_ 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[Tod Santee]

Hey Quadius -- Sorry to hear about your mom.  I hope you're still doing well
as more time passes.

Thanks for the Kindle info.  I think it was the e-Ink screen you were trying
to think of that wasn't backlit.  I ended up deciding on the Nook (the
original, not Nook Color).  I just couldn't hit the buttons on the Kindle
with my fingers like I do other keyboards because they are so
smoothly rounded and only slightly raised.  My finger slid off just as I got
enough pressure to activate it.

The Nook has a small touch screen below the reading area with a touch
keyboard for book searching and buying and for web surfing (if needed).  It
was available with Wi-Fi or Wi-Fi + 3G.  Wi-Fi was enough for me.  The Nook
Color is a full screen touch sensitive model but didn't have many other
benefits I could see.

I use the Wi-Fi quite a bit because I typically make purchases using the
computer and they simply migrate directly to the Nook without me doing
anything.  Plus, I can read on my computer screen and rearrange the
"shelves" (classics, Stephen King, Tech Stuff, etc.) on the computer and/or
Nook and whichever I use next is set up exactly like the other... and I'm
still up to date in both places on which page I left off reading.  Basically
saying the two sycronize quite seamlessly without me doing anything to make
it happen.

The Nooks both have user-replaceable batteries whereas the Kindles need an
authorized dealer to do it.  And you can easily add memory to the Nooks by
adding a microSD card in the back.

Mostly, though, it was the touch screen versus buttons that sold me on it.
*I love it!!!*  I carry it on my lap everywhere I go and it's always "open"
to the correct page at the press of the ON switch!


Best regards!
--Tod

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Quadius  wrote:

> Sorry I am so late, but I really haven't been on the list for a couple of
> months because my mother passed away early in December.
>
> As for the Kindle, I can understand why some people don't like them, but I
> absolutely am in love with mine.  When I first got it I was disappointed by
> the fact that it went to stand by pretty quickly, but I finally figured out
> how I would be able to operate the thing using a mouse stick.
>
> If you're wanting to surf the web or use applications like that, I would go
> with the Ipad.  I don't have one, but I have looked at it and found it to be
> great.  Then again, I've heard wonderful things about the Nook.  For me the
> Kindle was a better option because it had bigger page turning buttons on the
> side.  Not to mention it has the wonderful (I can't really name of this
> feature) electronic screen which doesn't use a backlight.  If I wanted to
> read from a computer, I would just simply turn on my computer.
>
> So, I would recommend either the Nook without the color or or the Kindle if
> you just want to use it as a book reader or magazine/newspaper reader.
>
> If you're wanting to do more, I would look at either the Ipad or the Nook
> with color.  From what I have been told the Ipad is better, but I believe
> it's more expensive.
>
> I'm using mine just for reading, so I'm not using the wireless feature.
> From what I have read about these it is good to use if you get newspapers or
> have other subscriptions.  One more thing I forgot, if you have the ability
> to check out books electronically from a local library, the Nook is better
> than the Kindle.  And that's from someone who's using the Kindle and loves
> it.
> Q
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Tod Santee  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everybody out in the Land of Q's!
>>
>> Many of the old-timers here probably remember me.  I kept getting kicked
>> out by eskimo.com because my email was listed as a spammer (?? NO Idea
>> why!) so I decided to re-join a while back using Gmail.  So far-So good
>> (fingers crossed).
>>
>> My info... My name's Tod, age 43, C5-6, 27yrs post from falling from a
>> tree.  I moved to Tucson, AZ, after 6 unhealthy years in the cold PA
>> climate.  AZ's warm, dry weather helped a lot but as I get older it seems to
>> be getting cooler here (just getting spoiled, mostly).  LOVE to travel!
>> Been to Costa Rica 4-5 times, took public busses and ferrys to get from
>> Seattle to the Olympic Penninsula to Victoria and Vancouver and an
>> accessible Amtrak back to Seattle (interesting with no scheduled
>> transports), and this summer I got my *SCUBA certification* and used
>> frequent flyer miles/points (mostly from strategic credit card spending) to
>> go to Thailand and Indonesia for my first ocean dives while touring around
>> Bali for 3 weeks!!  DAMN COOL!
>>
>> I taught high school biology from '96 to 2010.  (Curently deciding whether
>> to continue or change course.)
>>
>> Now I'm thinking abouta Kindle and decided to come out of lurking mode to
>> get the advice of those I consider Experts... You All.
>>
>> I'm wondering how many of you use them.  Are they useful for anything
>> besides just "book reading" without the book?  

RE:[QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[Lee Trahan]

I just bought a Nook Color and love it.  I'm a c6/7 quad with no finger 
movement and I'm able to operate the Nook very well.  I'm 25 pages into my 
first book.  Large text and bright display.  If anyone wants to know more just 
shoot me and email  Lee Trahan
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tod Santee 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Lori Michaelson 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question


  Hi Lori & Everyone else,

  I must say that when we travel we really go out of our way to avoid "posh."  
Neither of us likes going somewhere where many people live in very basic homes 
but then finding all our places to be "all the comforts of home."  If that's 
what we liked we'd probably just stay in the US and get rooms in the Marriotts 
and Hiltons.  No, we prefer to be somewhat immersed in the true culture.  We 
eat at local markets and restaraunts intended for "locals."  Example: At one 
market in Bali we were served rice with chicken, veggies and spices packed in a 
banana leaf by hand (bare hands!)  We definitely took the roads less traveled 
(especially in Thailand!).

  At one time, early in our marriage, I thought I wouldn't be traveling like 
this if I hadn't married Sherry but then realized I had it backwards... I doubt 
Sherry and I would have been together if she didn't like traveling like this.

  It's great that she can help and loves exotic places "on the cheap."  But 
then I think back to when I moved to AZ... it was just as much a challenging 
adventure.  I had things set up such that someone I never met would be doing my 
PCA care (at least at first).  I packed up in PA, had my parents drive me out 
and unload.  They stayed for 4 days and left on schedule even though the guy I 
had arranged had been arrested and was in jail for some non-violent offense by 
the time I got here.  I never did meet him but I managed to scramble to find 
somebody else.

  I've always had that daring and adventurous spirit.  That's how I talked 
Sherry into taking Scuba classes and getting our certifications.  We can scuba 
anywhere in the world now!  (And after her first time, she LOVES IT.  She's 
been looking for new places to vacation AND dive ever since we got home!)  I 
think it's that spirit that gave me the ability to survive after my accident 
when I lived in such a "closed" community and wsas rarely able to go anywhere 
due to cold and weather issues.  (Thank God I had a computer and 2400 baud 
modem!! Haha!)

  Now, as for the Kindle -- It looks like they aren't a good option.  That's 
probably why I didn't get many responses.  On the other hand, the Nook (from 
Barnes & Noble) looks more promising with its touch screen rather than tiny 
buttons.  Plus it has a web browser.  I'm going out to check them out today.

  But then, if the Nook looks like a good option, I have to decide between WiFi 
 vs. WiFi+3G.  And how much are Nook eBooks compared to Kindle's?  I'm also 
wondering how much the 3G will be of use.  Can I use its WiFi when I'm out of 
the country to browse the web and newspapers back home?  Or do I need the 3G 
for that.  In fact, I have to find out if the 3G for a Nook even will connect 
outside of the US (out of AT&T's main Nook market).  And finally, I know the 3G 
connection for Kindle has no monthly fee but I haven't heard the same --or had 
it verified-- about Nook's 3G connectivity.

  Oh so many things to consider.  And I thought shopping for computers was 
difficult!

  Best to All.  And a Merry Christmas to everyone I don't connect with before 
then!

  Sincerely,
  -- Tod


  On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Lori Michaelson  
wrote:

Hey Tod!

Holy crap!  I had no idea that you had/have been able to travel to so many 
distant faraway lands!  In the 1994/1995 school year my ex and I hosted a 
foreign exchange student from Indonesia.  He mentioned Bali and said it was a 
really, really nice area for vacationers, etc.!  And how "posh" it was, etc.!

And you're so lucky to have Sherry to be able to be so healthy to help you 
in all of your travels especially involving flying and personal care, etc. Just 
by you having a little bit lower injury than mine... it is just enough to allow 
you to move around easier and do a little bit more (or quite a bit more) that I 
am able to do.  Not to mention me acquiring Posttraumatic Syringomyelia and 
just the simplest little wrong movements put me in pain for days and days.

Anyway, consider yourself so fortunate!!!  Gosh, especially traveling to 
the exotic places... what a wonderful, relaxing getaway to feel and be more 
EROTIC!  :-).

Well, regarding a Kindle... not too long ago I was wondering the exact same 
things about it that you are.  And I simply couldn'

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[bob quinn]

Thanks Tod!
Unfortunately, it looks like Erik is moving to Panama...
At 03:53 PM 12/23/2010, Tod Santee wrote:
Bob,
 
Over the years and several trips to Costa Rica I've become friends with a
guy who drives an accessible van.  It has a 4-point tiedown and
heavy duty WC lift.  He has regular tours he gives but we've dragged
him all over the country!  If you ever consider going I can try to
hook you up.  In the meantime, he has a website at
www.gowithwheelchairs.com
.  At one point, Sherry and I were his background "models"
on some pages.
 
Best regards!
--Tod
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, bob quinn
 wrote:


Hi Tod,

You're adventurous spirit and (even more important) actions are
inspiring!  I love the idea of going to Costa Rica, and the fact
you've done it outside the typical tourist realms makes it seem a LOT
less crazy an idea than I'd imagined.

As for the Kindle, I don't like it.  Tried one and sent it
back!  Needs too much hand/finger dexterity and I thought the screen
lacked sufficient contrast.

But, coincidentally, I just came from Barnes&Noble, where I tried
out the Nook Color and LOVED it.  The size is great, touch-screen
responsive, screen is hi-rez and browsing websites was a pleasure, they
were so much more readable than on my computer!  That surprised
me.

Its not at all as versatile as an iPad (no camera and no apps)
...but, it runs Google's Android OS under the hood and I've rumors that
B&N is planning to create a Developers' program and App Store. 
In the mean-time, there is
http://nookdevs.com for the more
adventurous willing to void their warranty to unlock the device (and its
potential).

I didn't buy one today, but I came close!  I have other stuff on
my plate right now and didn't want the distraction.  Also want to
see if the price goes down soon ...though at $249, it is already a
bargain.

At 12:35 PM 12/22/2010, Tod Santee wrote:

>Hi Lori & Everyone else,

>

>I must say that when we travel we really go out of our way to
avoid "posh."  Neither of us likes going somewhere where
many people live in very basic homes but then finding all our places to
be "all the comforts of home."  If that's what we liked
we'd probably just stay in the US and get rooms in the Marriotts and
Hiltons.  No, we prefer to be somewhat immersed in the true
culture.  We eat at local markets and restaraunts intended for
"locals."  Example: At one market in Bali we were served
rice with chicken, veggies and spices packed in a banana leaf by hand
(bare hands!)  We definitely took the roads less traveled
(especially in Thailand!).

>

>At one time, early in our marriage, I thought I wouldn't be
traveling like this if I hadn't married Sherry but then realized I had it
backwards... I doubt Sherry and I would have been together if she didn't
like traveling like this.

>

>It's great that she can help and loves exotic places "on the
cheap."  But then I think back to when I moved to AZ... it was
just as much a challenging adventure.  I had things set up such that
someone I never met would be doing my PCA care (at least at first). 
I packed up in PA, had my parents drive me out and unload.  They
stayed for 4 days and left on schedule even though the guy I had arranged
had been arrested and was in jail for some non-violent offense by the
time I got here.  I never did meet him but I managed to scramble to
find somebody else.

>

>I've always had that daring and adventurous spirit.  That's
how I talked Sherry into taking Scuba classes and getting our
certifications.  We can scuba anywhere in the world now!  (And
after her first time, she LOVES IT.  She's been looking for new
places to vacation AND dive ever since we got home!)  I think it's
that spirit that gave me the ability to survive after my accident when I
lived in such a "closed" community and wsas rarely able to go
anywhere due to cold and weather issues.  (Thank God I had a
computer and 2400 baud modem!! Haha!)

>

>Now, as for the Kindle -- It looks like they aren't a good
option.  That's probably why I didn't get many responses.  On
the other hand, the Nook (from Barnes & Noble) looks more promising
with its touch screen rather than tiny buttons.  Plus it has a web
browser.  I'm going out to check them out today.

>

>But then, if the Nook looks like a good option, I have to decide
between WiFi  vs. WiFi+3G.  And how much are Nook eBooks
compared to Kindle's?  I'm also wondering how much the 3G will be of
use.  Can I use its WiFi when I'm out of the country to browse the
web and newspapers back home?  Or do I need the 3G for that. 
In fact, I have to find out if the 3G for a Nook even will connect
outside of the US (out of AT&T's main Nook market).  And
finally, I know the 3G connection for Kindle has no monthly fee but I
haven't heard the same --or had it verified-- about Nook's 3G
connectivity.

>

>Oh so many things to consider.  And I thought shopping for
computers was difficult!

>

>Best to All.  And a Merry Christmas to everyone I 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[Tod Santee]

Bob,

Over the years and several trips to Costa Rica I've become friends with a
guy who drives an accessible van.  It has a 4-point tiedown and heavy duty
WC lift.  He has regular tours he gives but we've dragged him all over the
country!  If you ever consider going I can try to hook you up.  In the
meantime, he has a website at www.gowithwheelchairs.com .  At one point,
Sherry and I were his background "models" on some pages.

Best regards!
--Tod

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, bob quinn  wrote:

> Hi Tod,
>
> You're adventurous spirit and (even more important) actions are inspiring!
>  I love the idea of going to Costa Rica, and the fact you've done it outside
> the typical tourist realms makes it seem a LOT less crazy an idea than I'd
> imagined.
>
> As for the Kindle, I don't like it.  Tried one and sent it back!  Needs too
> much hand/finger dexterity and I thought the screen lacked sufficient
> contrast.
>
> But, coincidentally, I just came from Barnes&Noble, where I tried out the
> Nook Color and LOVED it.  The size is great, touch-screen responsive, screen
> is hi-rez and browsing websites was a pleasure, they were so much more
> readable than on my computer!  That surprised me.
>
> Its not at all as versatile as an iPad (no camera and no apps) ...but, it
> runs Google's Android OS under the hood and I've rumors that B&N is planning
> to create a Developers' program and App Store.  In the mean-time, there is
> http://nookdevs.com for the more adventurous willing to void their
> warranty to unlock the device (and its potential).
>
> I didn't buy one today, but I came close!  I have other stuff on my plate
> right now and didn't want the distraction.  Also want to see if the price
> goes down soon ...though at $249, it is already a bargain.
>
> At 12:35 PM 12/22/2010, Tod Santee wrote:
> >Hi Lori & Everyone else,
> >
> >I must say that when we travel we really go out of our way to avoid
> "posh."  Neither of us likes going somewhere where many people live in very
> basic homes but then finding all our places to be "all the comforts of
> home."  If that's what we liked we'd probably just stay in the US and get
> rooms in the Marriotts and Hiltons.  No, we prefer to be somewhat immersed
> in the true culture.  We eat at local markets and restaraunts intended for
> "locals."  Example: At one market in Bali we were served rice with chicken,
> veggies and spices packed in a banana leaf by hand (bare hands!)  We
> definitely took the roads less traveled (especially in Thailand!).
> >
> >At one time, early in our marriage, I thought I wouldn't be traveling like
> this if I hadn't married Sherry but then realized I had it backwards... I
> doubt Sherry and I would have been together if she didn't like traveling
> like this.
> >
> >It's great that she can help and loves exotic places "on the cheap."  But
> then I think back to when I moved to AZ... it was just as much a challenging
> adventure.  I had things set up such that someone I never met would be doing
> my PCA care (at least at first).  I packed up in PA, had my parents drive me
> out and unload.  They stayed for 4 days and left on schedule even though the
> guy I had arranged had been arrested and was in jail for some non-violent
> offense by the time I got here.  I never did meet him but I managed to
> scramble to find somebody else.
> >
> >I've always had that daring and adventurous spirit.  That's how I talked
> Sherry into taking Scuba classes and getting our certifications.  We can
> scuba anywhere in the world now!  (And after her first time, she LOVES IT.
>  She's been looking for new places to vacation AND dive ever since we got
> home!)  I think it's that spirit that gave me the ability to survive after
> my accident when I lived in such a "closed" community and wsas rarely able
> to go anywhere due to cold and weather issues.  (Thank God I had a computer
> and 2400 baud modem!! Haha!)
> >
> >Now, as for the Kindle -- It looks like they aren't a good option.  That's
> probably why I didn't get many responses.  On the other hand, the Nook (from
> Barnes & Noble) looks more promising with its touch screen rather than tiny
> buttons.  Plus it has a web browser.  I'm going out to check them out today.
> >
> >But then, if the Nook looks like a good option, I have to decide between
> WiFi  vs. WiFi+3G.  And how much are Nook eBooks compared to Kindle's?  I'm
> also wondering how much the 3G will be of use.  Can I use its WiFi when I'm
> out of the country to browse the web and newspapers back home?  Or do I need
> the 3G for that.  In fact, I have to find out if the 3G for a Nook even will
> connect outside of the US (out of AT&T's main Nook market).  And finally, I
> know the 3G connection for Kindle has no monthly fee but I haven't heard the
> same --or had it verified-- about Nook's 3G connectivity.
> >
> >Oh so many things to consider.  And I thought shopping for computers was
> difficult!
> >
> >Best to All.  And a Merry Christmas to everyon

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[bob quinn]

Hi Tod,

You're adventurous spirit and (even more important) actions are inspiring!  I 
love the idea of going to Costa Rica, and the fact you've done it outside the 
typical tourist realms makes it seem a LOT less crazy an idea than I'd imagined.

As for the Kindle, I don't like it.  Tried one and sent it back!  Needs too 
much hand/finger dexterity and I thought the screen lacked sufficient contrast.

But, coincidentally, I just came from Barnes&Noble, where I tried out the Nook 
Color and LOVED it.  The size is great, touch-screen responsive, screen is 
hi-rez and browsing websites was a pleasure, they were so much more readable 
than on my computer!  That surprised me.

Its not at all as versatile as an iPad (no camera and no apps) ...but, it runs 
Google's Android OS under the hood and I've rumors that B&N is planning to 
create a Developers' program and App Store.  In the mean-time, there is 
http://nookdevs.com for the more adventurous willing to void their warranty to 
unlock the device (and its potential).

I didn't buy one today, but I came close!  I have other stuff on my plate right 
now and didn't want the distraction.  Also want to see if the price goes down 
soon ...though at $249, it is already a bargain.

At 12:35 PM 12/22/2010, Tod Santee wrote:
>Hi Lori & Everyone else,
> 
>I must say that when we travel we really go out of our way to avoid "posh."  
>Neither of us likes going somewhere where many people live in very basic homes 
>but then finding all our places to be "all the comforts of home."  If that's 
>what we liked we'd probably just stay in the US and get rooms in the Marriotts 
>and Hiltons.  No, we prefer to be somewhat immersed in the true culture.  We 
>eat at local markets and restaraunts intended for "locals."  Example: At one 
>market in Bali we were served rice with chicken, veggies and spices packed in 
>a banana leaf by hand (bare hands!)  We definitely took the roads less 
>traveled (especially in Thailand!).
> 
>At one time, early in our marriage, I thought I wouldn't be traveling like 
>this if I hadn't married Sherry but then realized I had it backwards... I 
>doubt Sherry and I would have been together if she didn't like traveling like 
>this.
> 
>It's great that she can help and loves exotic places "on the cheap."  But then 
>I think back to when I moved to AZ... it was just as much a challenging 
>adventure.  I had things set up such that someone I never met would be doing 
>my PCA care (at least at first).  I packed up in PA, had my parents drive me 
>out and unload.  They stayed for 4 days and left on schedule even though the 
>guy I had arranged had been arrested and was in jail for some non-violent 
>offense by the time I got here.  I never did meet him but I managed to 
>scramble to find somebody else.
> 
>I've always had that daring and adventurous spirit.  That's how I talked 
>Sherry into taking Scuba classes and getting our certifications.  We can scuba 
>anywhere in the world now!  (And after her first time, she LOVES IT.  She's 
>been looking for new places to vacation AND dive ever since we got home!)  I 
>think it's that spirit that gave me the ability to survive after my accident 
>when I lived in such a "closed" community and wsas rarely able to go anywhere 
>due to cold and weather issues.  (Thank God I had a computer and 2400 baud 
>modem!! Haha!)
> 
>Now, as for the Kindle -- It looks like they aren't a good option.  That's 
>probably why I didn't get many responses.  On the other hand, the Nook (from 
>Barnes & Noble) looks more promising with its touch screen rather than tiny 
>buttons.  Plus it has a web browser.  I'm going out to check them out today.
> 
>But then, if the Nook looks like a good option, I have to decide between WiFi  
>vs. WiFi+3G.  And how much are Nook eBooks compared to Kindle's?  I'm also 
>wondering how much the 3G will be of use.  Can I use its WiFi when I'm out of 
>the country to browse the web and newspapers back home?  Or do I need the 3G 
>for that.  In fact, I have to find out if the 3G for a Nook even will connect 
>outside of the US (out of AT&T's main Nook market).  And finally, I know the 
>3G connection for Kindle has no monthly fee but I haven't heard the same --or 
>had it verified-- about Nook's 3G connectivity.
> 
>Oh so many things to consider.  And I thought shopping for computers was 
>difficult!
> 
>Best to All.  And a Merry Christmas to everyone I don't connect with before 
>then!
> 
>Sincerely,
>-- Tod
>
>On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Lori Michaelson 
><lorilivin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hey Tod!
> 
>Holy crap!  I had no idea that you had/have been able to travel to so many 
>distant faraway lands!  In the 1994/1995 school year my ex and I hosted a 
>foreign exchange student from Indonesia.  He mentioned Bali and said it was a 
>really, really nice area for vacationers, etc.!  And how "posh" it was, etc.!
>
>And you're so lucky to have Sherry to be able to be so health

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[Tod Santee]

Hi Lucinda!  I've never been yo Portland.  I hear it's a nice place and very
community-friendly.  I usually check out a city's transportation web site.
It seems the easier to find, more prominently displayed their access options
are the better the services.  However, like all general statements, it can't
be taken to mean it works every time.

Best wishes!

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 4:52 PM, LJT  wrote:

>   hello Tod,
> Welcome Back!  In your travels, have you ever been to Portland?  If so how
> is the public transport for us quads? My son recently moved out there and
> I'd like to go visit him.
>
> *Lucinda
> C-4,5 complete
> July 31, '05*
> *Mpls., MN*
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 12/18/10, Tod Santee * wrote:
>
>
> From: Tod Santee 
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: sant...@cox.net
> Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 12:31 PM
>
>
>  Hi Everybody out in the Land of Q's!
>
> Many of the old-timers here probably remember me.  I kept getting kicked
> out by eskimo.com because my email was listed as a spammer (?? NO Idea
> why!) so I decided to re-join a while back using Gmail.  So far-So good
> (fingers crossed).
>
> My info... My name's Tod, age 43, C5-6, 27yrs post from falling from a
> tree.  I moved to Tucson, AZ, after 6 unhealthy years in the cold PA
> climate.  AZ's warm, dry weather helped a lot but as I get older it seems to
> be getting cooler here (just getting spoiled, mostly).  LOVE to travel!
> Been to Costa Rica 4-5 times, took public busses and ferrys to get from
> Seattle to the Olympic Penninsula to Victoria and Vancouver and an
> accessible Amtrak back to Seattle (interesting with no scheduled
> transports), and this summer I got my *SCUBA certification* and used
> frequent flyer miles/points (mostly from strategic credit card spending) to
> go to Thailand and Indonesia for my first ocean dives while touring around
> Bali for 3 weeks!!  DAMN COOL!
>
> I taught high school biology from '96 to 2010.  (Curently deciding whether
> to continue or change course.)
>
> Now I'm thinking abouta Kindle and decided to come out of lurking mode to
> get the advice of those I consider Experts... You All.
>
> I'm wondering how many of you use them.  Are they useful for anything
> besides just "book reading" without the book?  Also, I notice they have Wifi
> or Wifi/3G... is there a major benefit to the 3G if al you can do is load
> books and/or newspapers?  Wouldn't you already have what you're reading
> loaded to memory?  Or is there a web surfing capability I haven't heard
> about?
>
> So... It's good to see so many friends still hanging around!  And I'm happy
> to say Hi to the "new" folks in the past year/year-point-five I haven't yet
> met.
>
> And Thanks A Bunch to anyone who might be able to offer Kindle insights or
> answers!
>
> Best wishes & Happy Holidays, friends!
> --Tod Santee
>
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[Tod Santee]

Hi Lori & Everyone else,

I must say that when we travel we really go out of our way to avoid "posh."
Neither of us likes going somewhere where many people live in very basic
homes but then finding all our places to be "all the comforts of home."  If
that's what we liked we'd probably just stay in the US and get rooms in the
Marriotts and Hiltons.  No, we prefer to be somewhat immersed in the true
culture.  We eat at local markets and restaraunts intended for "locals."
Example: At one market in Bali we were served rice with chicken, veggies and
spices packed in a banana leaf by hand (bare hands!)  We definitely took the
roads less traveled (especially in Thailand!).

At one time, early in our marriage, I thought I wouldn't be traveling like
this if I hadn't married Sherry but then realized I had it backwards... I
doubt Sherry and I would have been together if she didn't like traveling
like this.

It's great that she can help and loves exotic places "on the cheap."  But
then I think back to when I moved to AZ... it was just as much a challenging
adventure.  I had things set up such that someone I never met would be doing
my PCA care (at least at first).  I packed up in PA, had my parents drive me
out and unload.  They stayed for 4 days and left on schedule even though the
guy I had arranged had been arrested and was in jail for some non-violent
offense by the time I got here.  I never did meet him but I managed
to scramble to find somebody else.

I've always had that daring and adventurous spirit.  That's how I talked
Sherry into taking Scuba classes and getting our certifications.  We can
scuba anywhere in the world now!  (And after her first time, she LOVES IT.
She's been looking for new places to vacation AND dive ever since we got
home!)  I think it's that spirit that gave me the ability to survive after
my accident when I lived in such a "closed" community and wsas rarely able
to go anywhere due to cold and weather issues.  (Thank God I had a computer
and 2400 baud modem!! Haha!)

*Now, as for the Kindle* -- It looks like they aren't a good option.  That's
probably why I didn't get many responses.  On the other hand, the *Nook* (*from
Barnes & Noble*) looks more promising with its touch screen rather than tiny
buttons.  Plus it has a web browser.  I'm going out to check them out today.

But then, if the Nook looks like a good option, I have to decide between
WiFi  vs. WiFi+3G.  And how much are Nook eBooks compared to Kindle's?  I'm
also wondering how much the 3G will be of use.  Can I use its WiFi when I'm
out of the country to browse the web and newspapers back home?  Or do I need
the 3G for that.  In fact, I have to find out if the 3G for a Nook even will
connect outside of the US (out of AT&T's main Nook market).  And finally, I
know the 3G connection for Kindle has no monthly fee but I haven't heard the
same --or had it verified-- about Nook's 3G connectivity.

Oh so many things to consider.  And I thought shopping for computers was
difficult!

Best to All.  And a Merry Christmas to everyone I don't connect with before
then!

Sincerely,
-- Tod

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote:

> Hey Tod!
>
> Holy crap!  I had no idea that you had/have been able to travel to so many
> distant faraway lands!  In the 1994/1995 school year my ex and I hosted a
> foreign exchange student from Indonesia.  He mentioned Bali and said it was
> a really, really nice area for vacationers, etc.!  And how "posh" it was,
> etc.!
>
> And you're so lucky to have Sherry to be able to be so healthy to help you
> in all of your travels especially involving flying and personal care, etc.
> Just by you having a little bit lower injury than mine... it is *just
> enough* to allow you to move around easier and do a little bit more (or
> quite a bit more) that I am able to do.  Not to mention me acquiring
> Posttraumatic Syringomyelia and just the simplest little wrong movements put
> me in pain for days and days.
>
> Anyway, consider yourself so fortunate!!!  Gosh, especially traveling to
> the exotic places... what a wonderful, relaxing getaway to feel and be more
> EROTIC!  :-).
>
> Well, regarding a Kindle... not too long ago I was wondering the exact same
> things about it that you are.  And I simply couldn't imagine WHO would want
> to read a book on the screen of the little gadget INSTEAD OF just reading a
> hardcover or paperback.  Because, yes, it's only for book reading.
>
> I have a passion for the printed page (reading a regular book the regular
> way) and really do not like to read things online or on a screen.  But even
> though my wound has completely healed (and I am back to sitting up in the
> chair for 5 or 6 hours a day now without repercussions) I am still in bed
> for quite a bit of the rest of the day... mostly the very late afternoon and
> evening.  And when I used to read a regular book... it was always more
> comfortable to read it sitting up in my hospital bed.  But after I get in
> bed to

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[LJT]

hello Tod,
Welcome Back!  In your travels, have you ever been to Portland?  If so how is 
the public transport for us quads? My son recently moved out there and I'd like 
to go visit him.

Lucinda
C-4,5 complete
July 31, '05  Mpls., MN   

--- On Sat, 12/18/10, Tod Santee  wrote:

From: Tod Santee 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Cc: sant...@cox.net
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2010, 12:31 PM

Hi Everybody out in the Land of Q's!
 
Many of the old-timers here probably remember me.  I kept getting kicked out by 
eskimo.com because my email was listed as a spammer (?? NO Idea why!) so I 
decided to re-join a while back using Gmail.  So far-So good (fingers crossed).

 
My info... My name's Tod, age 43, C5-6, 27yrs post from falling from a tree.  I 
moved to Tucson, AZ, after 6 unhealthy years in the cold PA climate.  AZ's 
warm, dry weather helped a lot but as I get older it seems to be getting cooler 
here (just getting spoiled, mostly).  LOVE to travel!  Been to Costa Rica 4-5 
times, took public busses and ferrys to get from Seattle to the Olympic 
Penninsula to Victoria and Vancouver and an accessible Amtrak back to Seattle 
(interesting with no scheduled transports), and this summer I got my SCUBA 
certification and used frequent flyer miles/points (mostly from strategic 
credit card spending) to go to Thailand and Indonesia for my first ocean dives 
while touring around Bali for 3 weeks!!  DAMN COOL!

 
I taught high school biology from '96 to 2010.  (Curently deciding whether to 
continue or change course.)
 
Now I'm thinking abouta Kindle and decided to come out of lurking mode to get 
the advice of those I consider Experts... You All.
 
I'm wondering how many of you use them.  Are they useful for anything besides 
just "book reading" without the book?  Also, I notice they have Wifi or 
Wifi/3G... is there a major benefit to the 3G if al you can do is load books 
and/or newspapers?  Wouldn't you already have what you're reading loaded to 
memory?  Or is there a web surfing capability I haven't heard about?

 
So... It's good to see so many friends still hanging around!  And I'm happy to 
say Hi to the "new" folks in the past year/year-point-five I haven't yet met.
 
And Thanks A Bunch to anyone who might be able to offer Kindle insights or 
answers!
 
Best wishes & Happy Holidays, friends!
--Tod Santee



  

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Everyone! And Kindle Question

[wheelchair]

Welcome Back Tod.  I'm surprised that you didn't seek a temporary  position 
as a substitute teacher in your area on a day to day basis.
I'm not overly impressed with the Kindle as it wasn't designed for those  
that lack functional movement.  Is it a nice instrument ?  Well  Yes.  I'm 
sure that some can work it ok and others with have finger  issues.  Like cell 
phones, computers are getting smaller and smaller.   Now cell phones are 
getting bigger because of text messaging and  keyboards.  I don't believe that 
you can print off the Kindle yet.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 12/18/2010 12:31:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
mr.san...@gmail.com writes:

Hi Everybody out in the Land of Q's!
 
Many of the old-timers here probably remember me.  I kept getting  kicked 
out by _eskimo.com_ (http://eskimo.com/)  because my email was listed as a  
spammer (?? NO Idea why!) so I decided to re-join a while back using  Gmail.  
So far-So good (fingers crossed).
 
My info... My name's Tod, age 43, C5-6, 27yrs post from falling from  a 
tree.  I moved to Tucson, AZ, after 6 unhealthy years in the cold PA  climate.  
AZ's warm, dry weather helped a lot but as I get older it seems  to be 
getting cooler here (just getting spoiled, mostly).  LOVE to  travel!  Been to 
Costa Rica 4-5 times, took public busses and ferrys to  get from Seattle to 
the Olympic Penninsula to Victoria and Vancouver and an  accessible Amtrak 
back to Seattle (interesting with no scheduled transports),  and this summer I 
got my SCUBA certification  and used frequent flyer miles/points (mostly 
from strategic credit card  spending) to go to Thailand and Indonesia for my 
first ocean dives while  touring around Bali for 3 weeks!!  DAMN COOL!
 
I taught high school biology from '96 to 2010.  (Curently deciding  whether 
to continue or change course.)
 
Now I'm thinking abouta Kindle and decided to come out of lurking mode to  
get the advice of those I consider Experts... You All.
 
I'm wondering how many of you use them.  Are they useful for  anything 
besides just "book reading" without the book?  Also, I notice  they have Wifi 
or 
Wifi/3G... is there a major benefit to the 3G if al you can  do is load 
books and/or newspapers?  Wouldn't you already have what  you're reading loaded 
to memory?  Or is there a web surfing capability I  haven't heard about?
 
So... It's good to see so many friends still hanging around!  And  I'm 
happy to say Hi to the "new" folks in the past year/year-point-five I  haven't 
yet met.
 
And Thanks A Bunch to anyone who might be able to offer Kindle  insights or 
answers!
 
Best wishes & Happy Holidays, friends!
--Tod Santee

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, take a look at this

[Dan]

Very nice. Thank you.

Dan


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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[t crook]

Thanks guys!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
 
 
Here are some links to check out if you are bored.
 
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- Original Message 
From: David K. Kelmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: q-list 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all

I'll second that!   

Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Congratulations.  It's nice when things go well.
Quadius


On 2/15/08, t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Well I have been busy with the jewelry business, been in and out of court 
fighting for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got custody 
of my son, so life is good!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
 
 
Here some links to check out if you are bored.
 
my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
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- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all

 
Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm so 
sorry things have not been going well for you.
 
Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
 
Happy Valentines Day
 
I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
 
 
Here some links to check out if you are bored.
 
my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[David K. Kelmer]

I'll second that!   

Quadius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Congratulations.  It's nice when things go 
well.
Quadius

  On 2/15/08, t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I have been busy 
with jewelry business, been in and out of court fighting for custody of my son. 
The business is doing well, and we got custody of my son, so life is good!
   
Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry


 
  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all

 
  Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm 
so sorry things have not been going well for you.
   
  Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
   
  Happy Valentines Day
   
  I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
   
  Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry



 

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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[DAANOO]

HI Lester,
Sounds like a cool job and you must be quite intelligent to  know all about 
the software congratulations!.
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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[wheelchair]

lol.  And here I thought he worked for the post office as a  carrier.
Atta Boy Lester!
 
Best Wishes
W
 
 
In a message dated 3/8/2008 7:40:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello, 
I work for the department of defense and  I am a software design engineer. I 
work 40 hours a week, I use Dragon  NaturallySpeaking Professional version. 
Other then that I am pretty  independent at work. 
Lester Quad  C4-5 
Gambrills,  MD 





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RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[Les]

Hello,

 

I work for the department of defense and I am a software design engineer. I
work 40 hours a week, I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking Professional version.
Other then that I am pretty independent at work.

 

Lester Quad C4-5

Gambrills, MD

 

  _  

From: Maria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:24 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

 

Lester --

What is the job that you do for the federal government?  What hours are you
able to work and do you need assistance at work?

Maria

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Awesome Les,

What part of the federal gov do you work for?

 

 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

 

 

  _  

From: Les [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:37 PM
To: 't b'; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

Hi Tubagus,

 

After my accident twenty year this July, I figure my body might not but my
mind is just fine. So I finished high school then went to college got my
bachelors degree and now I have a good job working for the federal
government. Yes I had my bad days but I never gave up. Everything will work
out in good time.

 

Lester Quad C4-5

Gambrills, MD

 

  _  

From: t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...

 

Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
I'm going to do for the rest of my life. 

 

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RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[RollinOn]

Welcome aboard Tubagus,
I'm also paralyzed from chest down with no finger movement and down to one
arm.
I know it's going to be harder where you're at but don't cut yourself short
there's still things you can do as long as you got your mind.
I found a job in construction because it's what I know how to do but it
wasn't easy trying to convince people I could do it and I ran into people
after I was employed that questioned my abilities and I'm still here and
they're long gone.
Find something you like to do first and work from there.
It's a hard battle but if you are persistent then people start to pay
attention.
 
Good luck,
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

 

   _  

From: t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:13 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...


Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
I'm going to do for the rest of my life. 


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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[Maria]

Lester --

What is the job that you do for the federal government?  What hours are you
able to work and do you need assistance at work?

Maria

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM, RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Awesome Les,
> What part of the federal gov do you work for?
>
>
>
> Mark Jackson
>
>RollinOn
>
>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Les [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:37 PM
> *To:* 't b'; quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...
>
>  Hi Tubagus,
>
>
>
> After my accident twenty year this July, I figure my body might not but my
> mind is just fine. So I finished high school then went to college got my
> bachelors degree and now I have a good job working for the federal
> government. Yes I had my bad days but I never gave up. Everything will work
> out in good time.
>
>
>
> Lester Quad C4-5
>
> Gambrills, MD
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 PM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] hi ...
>
>
>
> Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I
> had a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from
> the chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
> accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
> don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
> I'm going to do for the rest of my life.
>
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RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[RollinOn]

Awesome Les,
What part of the federal gov do you work for?
 
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

 

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From: Les [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:37 PM
To: 't b'; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...



Hi Tubagus,

 

After my accident twenty year this July, I figure my body might not but my
mind is just fine. So I finished high school then went to college got my
bachelors degree and now I have a good job working for the federal
government. Yes I had my bad days but I never gave up. Everything will work
out in good time.

 

Lester Quad C4-5

Gambrills, MD

 

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From: t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...

 

Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
I'm going to do for the rest of my life. 


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RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[Les]

Hi Tubagus,

 

After my accident twenty year this July, I figure my body might not but my
mind is just fine. So I finished high school then went to college got my
bachelors degree and now I have a good job working for the federal
government. Yes I had my bad days but I never gave up. Everything will work
out in good time.

 

Lester Quad C4-5

Gambrills, MD

 

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From: t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:13 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...

 

Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
I'm going to do for the rest of my life. 

Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[wheelchair]

Hi Warrior,
 
Tubagus, lives in another country on the planet. They don't have VR  Programs 
like that, I'm sure.
Then consider that in some countries, poverty is common, even among those  
who are not disabled.
I imagine that even in some populated areas of our country, housing and  jobs 
are not easy found.
 
Best Wishes and Hope you have all your boxes emptied.
W
 
 
In a message dated 3/8/2008 9:28:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Tubagus,
You might want to go back to school. I'm a spinal cord injure and I have  CP. 
I just graduated from Purdue last May 2007. I moved to a new town and  
looking for a job in the Arts. You should get in touch with your VR in your  
city. 
They can help you to go to a college.
Wheelchair Warrior





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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[MikeyBird3]

Hi, Tubagus.  I'm a C-5,6 quad from Florida.  Does your  country have any 
type of government disability assistance?  A medical  program?  If so, please 
apply for those benefits.  Taking your mind  off financial needs may help you 
focus on surviving more.
 
 
In a message dated 3/7/2008 11:13:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi, my  name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had 
a car  accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5  

Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg,  FL
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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[andrea murray]

Hi Tubagus,
  You might want to go back to school. I'm a spinal cord injure and I have CP. 
I just graduated from Purdue last May 2007. I moved to a new town and looking 
for a job in the Arts. You should get in touch with your VR in your city. They 
can help you to go to a college.
  Wheelchair Warrior
  

t b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had 
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the 
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The accident 
changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I don't have any 
job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what I'm going to do 
for the rest of my life. 

   
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Re: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[Stacy Harim]

Hi Tubagus,

I'm sure everyone on the list or most everyone felt as you did when they were 
first injured.  I know I did take a lot of time to re evalute my life.  I was 
devistated to find I was not going to be making a living the same way.  It's 
been almost 7 years for me.  I had a lot of problems since then but still have 
been working on getting a degree.  

I luckily found something I was passionate about and want to finish my 
education so I can help other disabled and/or elderly people by becomming a 
social worker.

I was 27 when a type of encephalitis almost killed me by putting me in a coma 
for a month. The doctors expected me to have brain damage if I survived .  On 
top of that they said it would take 6 months to a year before any signs of 
recovery and most likely not be able to do anything for myself.

I have since hurt my back severly and had to get a lot of rods put in my spinal 
column and will be getting another surgery soon where I will lose some function 
because my back wont bend at all.  It does very little now.  Anyhow I know that 
I am alive for some reason and feel very fortunate to be alive.  It took time 
but I am getting through it.  It also helps to talk to someone.

There are options for you.  Like I said, try to find something your passionate 
about.  You are young and will get through it.  This list is great and I am 
sure there are some that can tell you some pretty great stories of how they are 
getting though it.

All the best to you,
Stacy


- Original Message 
From: t b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2008 11:13:12 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...

Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had a 
car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the chest 
down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The accident changed 
the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I don't have any job, I 
don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what I'm going to do for the 
rest of my life.


  

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RE: [QUAD-L] hi ...

[Danny Espinoza]

Same here..

 

Danny Espinoza 24/m/California

Occupation before accident - Network engineer / SR. Network security
engineer

Broke c2,c6,c7 and doner  bone at c2

TBI from blood going to central cortex from spinal cord

off a vent "woohoo" however only one diaphragm works right now "due to

asymmetric SCI"

 

http://secureminds.us/

 

 

 

From: t b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:13 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi ...

 

Hi, my name is Tubagus from Indonesia. I was 26 years old in 2005 when I had
a car accident. My spinal cord injured at C4-C5 so I am paralyzed from the
chest down. I can move my hands but my fingers are paralyzed. I  The
accident changed the course of my life forever. Now, I'm 29 years old, I
don't have any job, I don't know how to earn a living, and I don't know what
I'm going to do for the rest of my life. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[t crook]

THANKS! 
  Yes- almost 20 years as a quad; it has definitely had it's ups and downs, so 
every good day is a blessing!
   
  Tim

 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Congratulations.  It's nice when things go well.
Quadius

  On 2/15/08, t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I have been busy 
with the jewelry business, been in and out of court fighting for custody of my 
son. The business is doing well, and we got custody of my son, so life is good!
   
Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry


 
  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all

 
  Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm 
so sorry things have not been going well for you.
   
  Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
   
  Happy Valentines Day
   
  I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
   
  Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry



 

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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[t crook]

Thanks Dave! 
  The wife has been creating some new jewelry, and I have been doing allot of 
web design and marketing. My personal fav is the Spring Break necklace.
   
  Tim

"David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tim,

  It sounds like life is going good for you.  I've looked at some of the new 
jewelry, and it look great.  I'm really glad your son is with you!  Stay 
strong. 
   
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 

t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Well I have been busy with the jewelry business, been in and out of 
court fighting for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got 
custody of my son, so life is good!
   
Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry



  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


  Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm 
so sorry things have not been going well for you.
   
  Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
   
  Happy Valentines Day
   
  I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
   
  Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry





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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[Quadius]

Congratulations.  It's nice when things go well.
Quadius

On 2/15/08, t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Well I have been busy with jewelry business <http://www.whoopiekat.com/>,
> been in and out of court fighting for custody of my son. The business is
> doing well, and we got custody of my son, so life is good!
>
>  Tim
> c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
>
>
> Here some links to check out if you are bored.
>
> my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
> jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
> our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
> YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all
>
>
> Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.
> I'm so sorry things have not been going well for you.
>
> Dana
> C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
>
>  Happy Valentines Day
>
> I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
>
> Tim
> c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
>
>
> Here some links to check out if you are bored.
>
> my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
> jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
> our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
> YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Tim,

  It sounds like life is going good for you.  I've looked at some of the new 
jewelry, and it look great.  I'm really glad your son is with you!  Stay 
strong. 
   
   
  With Love,
 
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
  Texas, USA 

t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Well I have been busy with jewelry business, been in and out of court 
fighting for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got custody 
of my son, so life is good!
   
Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry



  - Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


  Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm 
so sorry things have not been going well for you.
   
  Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
   
  Happy Valentines Day
   
  I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
   
  Tim 
  c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
   
   
  Here some links to check out if you are bored.
   
  my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
  jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
  our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
  YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry





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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[Ms Linda Ferrell]

Hi Tim,
Welcome back & congrats on your victory, saving your son & being able to 
parenting him the right way. 
Lindaf

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[RollinOn]

Awesome Tim!
 

Mark Jackson

   RollinOn

 

 

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From: t crook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; q-list
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Thanks W!


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:53:03 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Congrats are in order!
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 10:34:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Well I have been busy with HYPERLINK "http://www.whoopiekat.com/"; \njewelry
business, been in and out of court fighting for custody of my son. The
business is doing well, and we got custody of my son, so life is good!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post




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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[t crook]

Thank ya QP!


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To: t crook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; q-list 

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:27:43 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Awesome Tim!
 
Mark Jackson 
   RollinOn
 
 




From: t crook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; q-list
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Thanks W!


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:53:03 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Congrats are in order!
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 10:34:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Well I have been busy with jewelry business, been in and out of court fighting 
for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got custody of my 
son, so life is good!
 
Tim 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[t crook]

Thanks W!


- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 10:53:03 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Congrats are in order!
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 10:34:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Well I have been busy with jewelry business, been in and out of court fighting 
for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got custody of my 
son, so life is good!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post






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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all....

[wheelchair]

Congrats are in order!
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 2/15/2008 10:34:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Well  I have been busy with _jewelry business_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/) , 
been in and out of  court fighting for custody of my son. The business is 
doing well, and we got  custody of my son, so life is good!
 
 
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[t crook]

Well I have been busy with jewelry business, been in and out of court fighting 
for custody of my son. The business is doing well, and we got custody of my 
son, so life is good!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
 
 
Here some links to check out if you are bored.
 
my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry



- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:16:22 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi all


Happy Valentine's Day.  What has been going on, have you been ill.  I'm so 
sorry things have not been going well for you.
 
Dana
C4-5, 33 years post, 54, Prairie Village Kansas, suburb of Kansas City
 
Happy Valentines Day
 
I hope to catch up on some posts here real soon; life has been so busy!
 
Tim 
c5-c6, 19 1/2 yrs. post
 
 
Here some links to check out if you are bored.
 
my quad site> www.geocities.com/onemofortom
jewelry site> http://www.whoopiekat.com/
our "NEW" MySpace site> http://www.myspace.com/whoopiekatjewelry
YouTube videos> http://www.youtube.com/user/whoopiekatjewelry






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Re: [QUAD-L] HI

[Quadius]

lol
I got to remember that one.  :-)
Quadius


On 12/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   A little kid in a mall with his mom asked me "What happened?"  I smiled,
> looked at his mom and told him, "I said NO to my mom once."  I wasn't sure
> whose eyes were bigger..
> Dave
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2007 1:05:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>  As you can tell, we are open to input from quads from anyplace who wish
> to join. We are aware that survival of quads in some countries is not always
> a priority. Medicine is not equal from one nation to the next. I have known
> doctors that have worked in third world countries and the resources simply
> do not exist to do much more than try to comfort a severe spinal injury and
> let the person pass on. Those of us in America and other nations that can
> provide the medical care often struggle to allow severely handicapped
> persons to join into meaningful careers and livelihoods.
> I know I have battled against the perception that I'm too handicapped, and
> the always painful comment that I'd be better off dead. I once had a lady
> with 4 children stop and point at me and say, "that is what happens to bad
> children.". (she may have meant I was ugly)
> I've never gotten that on here. People have been very kind and very
> helpful. I've learned a lot by reading and participating on here. I'd love
> to know more about how paralyzed persons live in many countries, including
> Ethiopia.
>
> My Best Wishes to You and Yours,
> john
>
> - Original Message ----
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:15:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] HI
>
> Greetings Kemal
>
> Thank You for your post and observation about the numbers of those
> participants from developing countries.
> There is an old military saying that goes, "The closer one gets to combat,
> the more obsolete the equipment gets."  I can only wish and wonder what
> happens outside our country when it comes with survival of people with
> spinal cord injuries.  You could become that window of opportunity to let us
> know. I can't even imagine
> what your daily life is like or how it begins. I hope to visit your
> website and see for myself.  I would also like to refer our Chicago Chapter
> of the National Spinal Cord Injury Association  of your website and their
> comments.
> Our best wishes to you and hope that you continue on postings!
>
>  In a message dated 12/10/2007 2:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> dear fellows,
> i am a quad,c33, incomplete.
>
> I think that the quad-list group is open to everybody(quads). But almost
> all of the participants seem to be from the developed world especially
> the USA.We need to encourage more participants from the developing world
> so that we can benefit from a wider and comprhensive experiencs
> involved. If they are there, may be, their presence could  not be felt
> and they have to come out.can we find out  who you are and from where,
> just to find out. to start with---I am kemal from ethiopia.  my web
> site  http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if you are interested.
> thank you
>
>
>
>
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Re: [QUAD-L] HI

[LadyNotes]

Dave,
 
That is hilarious!  I may have to use that line one day.  

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[Oconnelldb]

 
 
A little kid in a mall with his mom asked me "What  happened?"  I smiled, 
looked at his mom and told him, "I said NO to my mom  once."  I wasn't sure 
whose 
eyes were bigger..
Dave
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2007 1:05:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
As  you can tell, we are open to input from quads from anyplace who wish to 
join.  We are aware that survival of quads in some countries is not always a  
priority. Medicine is not equal from one nation to the next. I have known  
doctors that have worked in third world countries and the resources simply do  
not 
exist to do much more than try to comfort a severe spinal injury and let  the 
person pass on. Those of us in America and other nations that can provide  
the medical care often struggle to allow severely handicapped persons to join  
into meaningful careers and livelihoods. 
I know I have battled against the  perception that I'm too handicapped, and 
the always painful comment that I'd  be better off dead. I once had a lady with 
4 children stop and point at me and  say, "that is what happens to bad 
children.". (she may have meant I was  ugly)
I've never gotten that on here. People have been very kind and very  helpful. 
I've learned a lot by reading and participating on here. I'd love to  know 
more about how paralyzed persons live in many countries, including  Ethiopia. 

My Best Wishes to You and Yours,
john

-  Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:15:47  AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] HI

Greetings Kemal
 
Thank You for your post and observation about the numbers of those  
participants from developing countries.
There is an old military saying that goes, "The closer one gets to  combat, 
the more obsolete the equipment gets."  I can only wish and  wonder what 
happens outside our country when it comes with survival of people  with spinal 
cord 
injuries.  You could become that window of opportunity  to let us know. I 
can't even imagine
what your daily life is like or how it begins. I hope to visit your  website 
and see for myself.  I would also like to refer our Chicago  Chapter of the 
National Spinal Cord Injury Association  of your website  and their comments.
Our best wishes to you and hope that you continue on postings!
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2007 2:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

dear  fellows,
i am a quad,c33, incomplete.

I think that the quad-list  group is open to everybody(quads). But almost 
all of the participants  seem to be from the developed world especially 
the USA.We need to  encourage more participants from the developing world 
so that we can  benefit from a wider and comprhensive experiencs 
involved. If they are  there, may be, their presence could  not be felt 
and they have to  come out.can we find out  who you are and from where, 
just to find  out. to start with---I am kemal from ethiopia.  my web  
site  _http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if_ 
(http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if/)  you are  interested.
thank  you





 

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Re: [QUAD-L] HI

[John S.]

As you can tell, we are open to input from quads from anyplace who wish to 
join. We are aware that survival of quads in some countries is not always a 
priority. Medicine is not equal from one nation to the next. I have known 
doctors that have worked in third world countries and the resources simply do 
not exist to do much more than try to comfort a severe spinal injury and let 
the person pass on. Those of us in America and other nations that can provide 
the medical care often struggle to allow severely handicapped persons to join 
into meaningful careers and livelihoods. 
I know I have battled against the perception that I'm too handicapped, and the 
always painful comment that I'd be better off dead. I once had a lady with 4 
children stop and point at me and say, "that is what happens to bad children.". 
(she may have meant I was ugly)
I've never gotten that on here. People have been very kind and very helpful. 
I've learned a lot by reading and participating on here. I'd love to know more 
about how paralyzed persons live in many countries, including Ethiopia. 

My Best Wishes to You and Yours,
john

- Original Message 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:15:47 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] HI




 

Greetings Kemal

 

Thank You for your post and observation about the numbers of those 
participants from developing countries.

There is an old military saying that goes, "The closer one gets to combat, 
the more obsolete the equipment gets."  I can only wish and wonder what 
happens outside our country when it comes with survival of people with spinal 
cord injuries.  You could become that window of opportunity to let us know. 
I can't even imagine

what your daily life is like or how it begins. I hope to visit your 
website and see for myself.  I would also like to refer our Chicago Chapter 
of the National Spinal Cord Injury Association  of your website and their 
comments.

Our best wishes to you and hope that you continue on postings!

 


In a message dated 12/10/2007 2:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

dear 
  fellows,
i am a quad,c33, incomplete.

I think that the quad-list 
  group is open to everybody(quads). But almost 
all of the participants seem 
  to be from the developed world especially 
the USA.We need to encourage 
  more participants from the developing world 
so that we can benefit from a 
  wider and comprhensive experiencs 
involved. If they are there, may be, 
  their presence could  not be felt 
and they have to come out.can we 
  find out  who you are and from where, 
just to find out. to start 
  with---I am kemal from ethiopia.  my web 
site  
  http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if you are interested.
thank 
  you




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Re: [QUAD-L] HI

[wheelchair]

Greetings Kemal
 
Thank You for your post and observation about the numbers of those  
participants from developing countries.
There is an old military saying that goes, "The closer one gets to combat,  
the more obsolete the equipment gets."  I can only wish and wonder what  
happens outside our country when it comes with survival of people with spinal  
cord 
injuries.  You could become that window of opportunity to let us know.  I 
can't even imagine
what your daily life is like or how it begins. I hope to visit your  website 
and see for myself.  I would also like to refer our Chicago Chapter  of the 
National Spinal Cord Injury Association  of your website and their  comments.
Our best wishes to you and hope that you continue on postings!
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2007 2:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

dear  fellows,
i am a quad,c33, incomplete.

I think that the quad-list  group is open to everybody(quads). But almost 
all of the participants seem  to be from the developed world especially 
the USA.We need to encourage  more participants from the developing world 
so that we can benefit from a  wider and comprhensive experiencs 
involved. If they are there, may be,  their presence could  not be felt 
and they have to come out.can we  find out  who you are and from where, 
just to find out. to start  with---I am kemal from ethiopia.  my web 
site   http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if you are interested.
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Re: [QUAD-L] HI

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
Kemal,
Nice web page.  i think you will like the people here.  They are  a very 
resourceful group.
 
Dave  _Visit My Home  Page_ (http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html) 

 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2007 1:47:42 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

dear  fellows,
i am a quad,c33, incomplete.

I think that the quad-list  group is open to everybody(quads). But almost 
all of the participants seem  to be from the developed world especially 
the USA.We need to encourage  more participants from the developing world 
so that we can benefit from a  wider and comprhensive experiencs 
involved. If they are there, may be,  their presence could  not be felt 
and they have to come out.can we  find out  who you are and from where, 
just to find out. to start  with---I am kemal from ethiopia.  my web 
site   http://kemalzk.bravehost.com---if you are interested.
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Re: [QUAD-L] hi dan what the status of your syrinx

[Danny Hearn]

Hi Ron, yeah I get short tempered a lot tooespecially when pain lasts long 
periods and don't seem to let up much. I still pretty much take the same meds 
as you still---Elavil--Lorazapam at times and vicodin, also oxybutinin for 
bladder spasm pains. My family Doc sent me to a bone specialist because of all 
the left arm pain and heaviness and that doc said it is all from my 
neck--probably pinched nerves and syrinx and the x-rays need to be seen by a 
brain-spinal euro doc-so far I have not gone to the last Doc yet--I doubt 
there is much they can do anyway. My pains are intense some days and other days 
it seems to go into remission where it is at least tolerable.   
  Dan

RONALD L PRACHT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hey dan,
  i wanted to ask you if your pain has gotten worse?mine seens to have gotten 
sonme worse, and i have to watch myself as i get angry very easy when im in 
pain. have you tried any other meds?
   
  ron

Re: [QUAD-L] hi Dana

[Dan Tessiatore]

Thanks for the prayers Dana!  I have used a cushion called the ish dish.  It 
has the section where the ishial tuberosities (the bony prominence on each butt 
cheek) would be that is cut out and those prominences are supposed to be 
suspended.  The rest of the cushion is fairly firm and if you're not exactly 
positioned correctly on the cushion it can harm your sores.. my prayers go out 
to all who are facing medical problems.  Hang in there guys... Dan Tessiatore

William Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
It doesn't seem to get any better or worse. We dress it morning and night 
and so far it has stayed clear of infection. I suspect surgery and a stint 
in bed is the answer but I just can't bring myself to it yet. Wm.Larry

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] hey Steve
>Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 04:18:18 EST
>
>Larry,
>
> How do you work with a sore, doesn't that make it bigger? or do you have
>some kind of special cushion than I have never heard of that allows you to 
>get
>up. A whole year , wow that is a long time. My longest one was six 
>months
>and that seemed forever.
>I can imagine how hard that is for you, especially if you have to go to
>work. I will remember you along with Dan? in my prayers. I think that is 
>the
>worst thing we face is pressure sores, and for me also respiratory as I 
>have a
>trach button and easily become congested or catch something. Just going 
>and
>in the winter and meaning contact with the cold air can congestion
>suctioning. I know that is a much less than being on a ventilator as I 
>have two
>friends on. I don't think I could handle that. I have been on after 
>several
>surgeries and it took for several months to get off.
>
>Dana
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] hi everybody

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Angie,     Welcome back to the Group.  That is what makes this such a great Group...every member matters!  I hope you are staying well.   With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA           Angie Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  My e-mail address changed, so I haven't been active here for a while.  I just wanted to let everybody know, not that it matters, that I'm back.    - Angelique Novak 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi

[wheelchair]

TABS and DABS, came out of the Independent Living Movement many, many years ago and was started from middle aged pilot who was refused service by United Airlines, so he crawl'd up the stairs into the plane and someone thought to take a picture of the incident.  Next day it was plastered all over the media and this guy became an overnite icon and much sought after speaker.  But those were the old days, lol
W  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:21:27 EDTSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi





ha, you make it sound like all you TABs are dancing near the edge and will not be TABs for long.  i'm am just REALLY glad i have pretty good health.  all TABs are gradually closing in on my physical state anyway - then we'll see how they handle sitting around all day.
dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2006 5:25:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


That also describes a TAB (temporary able bodied)
W
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2006 9:40:33 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


A norm is a person with no noticable health problems
 
In a message dated 7/5/2006 8:58:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What's a norm? lol  Perhaps a TAB ?
W 

 

 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi

[Oconnelldb]

ha, you make it sound like all you TABs are dancing near the edge and will 
not be TABs for long.  i'm am just REALLY glad i have pretty good 
health.  all TABs are gradually closing in on my physical state anyway - 
then we'll see how they handle sitting around all day.
dave
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/6/2006 5:25:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  That also describes a TAB (temporary able bodied)
  W
   
   
  In a message dated 7/5/2006 9:40:33 PM Central Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

A norm is a person with no noticable health problems
 
In a message dated 7/5/2006 8:58:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What's a norm? lol  Perhaps a TAB 
  ?
  W 
  
   

 
Dave 
www.daveoconnell.com 
c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi

[wheelchair]

That also describes a TAB (temporary able bodied)
W
 
 
In a message dated 7/5/2006 9:40:33 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  A norm is a person with no noticable health problems
   
  In a message dated 7/5/2006 8:58:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
What's a norm? lol  Perhaps a TAB 
?
W 

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi

[DeLiMiTeD4]

A norm is a person with no noticable health problems
 
In a message dated 7/5/2006 8:58:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What's a norm? lol  Perhaps a TAB ?
W 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi

[wheelchair]

What's a norm? lol  Perhaps a TAB ?
W  -Original Message-From: Angelique Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Quad List Sent: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 13:18:24 -0500Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi


Hi Tom-
Thanks for the welcome, and your stats.  I posted mine cuz it's
usually the first thing the normals
want to know.  I just wanted to get that out of the way by giving mine
to the entire group.
-Angelique




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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[Lori Michaelson]

 
I also welcome you to the list!  
 
We have a member here who is not a quad [W] and I think he resides in Chicago!  He has a wild sense of humor here so watch out for his welcome!
 

Lori C4/5 Complete 
Tucson, AZ 
AGE - 41
---Original Message[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury. 
 
Loseta

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Loseta,     Welcome to the Quad-List.  This is a great group of people with plenty of experiences to share.  Pull up a chair and join the conversation!     With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury.      LosetaCheck Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody



T. Houston
Not real good yet ;) but I’m werkin on a plan as we speak ;)

On 5/26/06 10:03 PM, "tahouston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Houston originally from Gary, Indiana, then to Indianapolis Indiana, and now to St. Louis Missouri.  This is T. Houston originally from Gary Indiana who has a sister in Indianapolis Indiana and whose favorite Aunt lives in St. Louis Missouri on the north side of town near Natural Bridge Street.  Most of the homes in my aunts neighborhood are built on such high hills from the sidewalk, how do you handle it.
 
T. Houston C5-C6 complete
 
- Original Message - 
 
From:  Houston809   
 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quadlist    
 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:12 PM
 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody
 

Loseta,
Hi & welcome I’m Houston originally  from Gary, In. just moved 2 St. Louis, Mo. 1 of the worse states 4 Medicaid :(  I’m a C6/C7complete since Aug. 22, 1998


On 5/24/06 11:19 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

 
Hi, I'm c7  from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences,  specially with people with my same injury. 
 
Loseta
 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[tahouston]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody



Hey Houston originally from Gary, Indiana, then 
to Indianapolis Indiana, and now to St. Louis Missouri.  This is T. Houston 
originally from Gary Indiana who has a sister in Indianapolis Indiana and whose 
favorite Aunt lives in St. Louis Missouri on the north side of town near Natural 
Bridge Street.  Most of the homes in my aunts neighborhood are built on 
such high hills from the sidewalk, how do you handle it.
 
T. Houston C5-C6 complete

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Houston809 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quadlist 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody
  Loseta,Hi & welcome I’m Houston originally 
  from Gary, In. just moved 2 St. Louis, Mo. 1 of the worse states 4 Medicaid :( 
  I’m a C6/C7complete since Aug. 22, 1998On 5/24/06 11:19 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  Hi, I'm c7 
from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, 
specially with people with my same injury.  Loseta

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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Loseta,     Welcome to you, and any other new members to the Quad-List.  A better group of people would be hard to find.       With Love,  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA    [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi there,      I had a car accident seven years ago while I was working. A year ago I decided to move to
 US  from Europe with my wife and daughter. I've never been in a disabled parade so it would be great to be there to know people with disabilities and to practice my English as well. Where is that office in La grange? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:52 EDTSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody  In a message dated 5/24/2006 11:20:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:  Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury.      LosetaHi There Loseta!  Welcome Abroad. oops Welcome Aboard!  Another White Sox's Fan.  You can always tell another White Sox's Fan.     Are you registered with Mercedes's office in LaGrange, IL with the Chicago  Chapter of Nat Spinal Cord Injury Assoc.  See you this year at the 3rd Annual, Disabled Pride Parade.  WCheck Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[Houston809]

Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody



Loseta,
Hi & welcome I’m Houston originally from Gary, In. just moved 2 St. Louis, Mo. 1 of the worse states 4 Medicaid :( I’m a C6/C7complete since Aug. 22, 1998


On 5/24/06 11:19 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury. 
 
Loseta
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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[losetaloseto]

Hi there, 
 
I had a car accident seven years ago while I was working. A year ago I decided to move to US  from Europe with my wife and daughter. I've never been in a disabled parade so it would be great to be there to know people with disabilities and to practice my English as well. Where is that office in La grange? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:33:52 EDTSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody




In a message dated 5/24/2006 11:20:58 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury. 
 
Loseta

Hi There Loseta!  Welcome Abroad. oops Welcome Aboard!
Another White Sox's Fan.  You can always tell another White Sox's Fan.
 
Are you registered with Mercedes's office in LaGrange, IL with the Chicago
Chapter of Nat Spinal Cord Injury Assoc.
See you this year at the 3rd Annual, Disabled Pride Parade.
W

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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[RollinOn]

Welcome to the list Loseta,
Lots of great people with tons of experience.
I'm Mark a C5/6
 
 
Mark 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 05/24/06 11:20:21
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody
 

Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this list. I hope we can share experiences, specially with people with my same injury. 
 
Loseta

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Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[DAANOO]

Hi Loseta,
 
Welcome to the group.  I'm sure you will be able to share with others 
of your same level.  Our group is very friendly and helpful. How many years 
post are you from injury?
 
Dana (C 4-5, 31 years post, 52, KC area).  In a message 
dated 5/24/2006 11:20:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
 

  
  Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this 
  list. I hope we can share experiences, specially 
  with people with my same injury. 
   
  Loseta

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, everybody

[wheelchair]

In a message dated 5/24/2006 11:20:58 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  Hi, I'm c7 from Chicago and new in this 
  list. I hope we can share experiences, specially 
  with people with my same injury. 
   
  Loseta

Hi There Loseta!  Welcome Abroad. oops Welcome Aboard!
Another White Sox's Fan.  You can always tell another White Sox's 
Fan.
 
Are you registered with Mercedes's office in LaGrange, IL with the 
Chicago
Chapter of Nat Spinal Cord Injury Assoc.
See you this year at the 3rd Annual, Disabled Pride Parade.
W

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Lori, one question

[Lori Michaelson]

I check email daily but had company for 2 days.
 
In 1997 I went down to 25mgs from my 50 at bedtime with no problem.  I went back up when the
breakthrough pain began in 1999 or so.  
 
Our bodies change.  I hate it!  I wonder how peri-menopause and menopause will affect me.  Oh help!
 
Everyone says that it is causes huge weight gain.  Guess I was/am lucky in THAT respect. 
 
Lori Michaelson
Age - 41
C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post
Tucson, AZ
 
 
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From: RONALD L PRACHT
Date: 11/16/05 20:20:44
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi Lori, one question
 
Hi,
 
I remember you saying you were on 50mg amytriptyline for a few years. Did this medication make you gain weight over time? Im on 50mg and notice a slight weight increase Im just trying to be proactive because weight gain is no fun for us. You are a strong woman to have rolled on for 25 yrs thus far. I often wonder if I can make it that long.
 
 
   Thanks,
   Ron  c7
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Lori, one question

[DiannaL767]

In a message dated 11/16/2005 10:20:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I 
  remember you saying you were on 50mg amytriptyline for a few years. Did this 
  medication make you gain weight over time?

Hi Ron,
Even though your question was directed to Lori I thought I'd give you my 
experience with it. I went from 117 to 175 in a yr without changing eating 
habits. It effected my memory too.
Diane

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi Dan

[Quietstream25322]

 Hi   Ron,   good to hear from 
you. I'm pretty much the same as you on meds. I take 10mg of amitriptyline ( 
elavil ) every night to help with pain and sleeping-- Doctor Wice said in the 
future I can increase the dosage from 10mg to higher if I need to. Like You I 
will take Lorazapam at times I feel it's needed. My family Doc also gives me 
vicadin to help on day's that pain if severe. My brother was curious about quad 
pains, I explained to him that we learn to live with much pain and that what we 
deal with most every day would probably be a big shock to a healthy non 
paralyzed person.
 
Dan, St. Louis county Mo.  c-6   8.5 years 
Post

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...

[Stacy Harim]

Hi Kaye,
 
Sorry for the late welcome.  I'm Stacy.  I just turned 31 on the 
3rd and paraplegic at T 7/8 level from a rare type of encephalitis.  I just 
had the same surgery in May but I may have to have it again since my appendix 
looks like it either partly died or the incision closed where connected to the 
bladder.  We'll see on the 12th as I go back and have an outpatient surgery 
possibly done.  He's going to do an x-ray and if all goes well he's going 
to use a camera going through my urethra and will open up the incision where the 
appendix is connected to my bladder.  Unfortunately my appendix wasn't long 
enough for my long torso to be able to cath through my belly button but they did 
try.  I had to have a new stoma put in.  If the procedure doesn't go 
the way I want I will do the surgery again next summer after the spring 
semester.  It's important for me to get school over early.  I'm afraid 
to have the surgery don’t in the winter break as my incision got infected this 
time around and I was connected to the wound vac for almost a month.  If 
that were to happen again, I wouldn’t be able to go back to school without that 
wound vac attatched to me and that’s too embarrassing to handle.  When I 
had the surgery I also had a chait catheter put in. It's a tube connected to my 
large intestines to help with my bowel program.  I run 500cc's of saline 
through the tube and it pushes my stools through. I do run an extra 250 
through after the 500 just to make sure I'm empty.  It's over so much 
quicker.  At least one good thing came from my not so great hospital stay 
and surgery. 
 
Anyhow, sorry for the long story.  It's great to have you with 
us.  I look forward to reading your posts.  Enjoy your stay.
 
Stacy
- Original Message - 

  From: kaye 
  allard 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:57 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra 
  pubic, etc...
  I hope I'm doing this right!I've been injured for 13 years, 
  C6.  Six months or so after my injury I had a procedure called 
  mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my appendix to make a "tunnel" that goes 
  from my belly button to my bladder.  So I cath via my navel.  Less 
  chance for bacteria to be introduced, being that it's away from the vaginal 
  area and all.  I can do it anywhere so long as I have a catheter, empty 
  bottle and betadine swabs.  I have had my share of Utis and have 
  minimized reoccurance (and symptoms which are enough without having the actual 
  infection) by sticking to sterile catheters drinking lots of water and stuff 
  and staying away from caffeine and taking cranberry capsules.That's my 
  experience.-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder 
  engine. -Henry Miller 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...

[Eric Olson]

kaye allard wrote:


I hope I'm doing this right!
I've been injured for 13 years, C6.  Six months or so after my injury 
I had a procedure called mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my 
appendix to make a "tunnel" that goes from my belly button to my 
bladder.  So I cath via my navel.  Less chance for bacteria to be 
introduced,


Are you kidding?  I've dug all kinds of crap out of my navel.  LOL!

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...

[QuadPirate]

Welcome aboard Kaye!
 
Mark 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: kaye allard
Date: 07/25/05 15:01:25
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...
 I hope I'm doing this right!I've been injured for 13 years, C6.  Six months or so after my injury I had a procedure called mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my appendix to make a "tunnel" that goes from my belly button to my bladder.  So I cath via my navel.  Less chance for bacteria to be introduced, being that it's away from the vaginal area and all.  I can do it anywhere so long as I have a catheter, empty bottle and betadine swabs.  I have had my share of Utis and have minimized reoccurance (and symptoms which are enough without having the actual infection) by sticking to sterile catheters drinking lots of water and stuff and staying away from caffeine and taking cranberry capsules.That's my experience.-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Kaye,
 
You did it just fine.  Welcome to the Quad-List.  I hope you find this List to be a place you can share your experiences, learn new ideas, or just spend a few moments with others that know what you're going through.  It's nice to have you with us.
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA kaye allard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I hope I'm doing this right!I've been injured for 13 years, C6.  Six months or so after my injury I had a procedure called mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my appendix to make a "tunnel" that goes from my belly button to my bladder.  So I cath via my navel.  Less chance for bacteria to be introduced, being that it's away from the vaginal area and all.  I can do it anywhere so long as I have a catheter, empty bottle and betadine swabs.  I have had my share of Utis and have minimized reoccurance (and symptoms which are enough without having the actual infection) by sticking to sterile catheters drinking lots of water and stuff and staying away from caffeine and taking cranberry capsules.That's my experience.-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...

[Lori Michaelson]

A howdy and a warm welcome to this list!  I've been on the list since 1995 ... great way to share
quad-only issues!
 
FYI - There is a huge list of quads (names ages, locale, injury, some pics, etc) on a very user-friendly website
found here ... http://scilist.port5.com/  <-- Peole listed alphabetyically but by FIRST names.  You may want
to add yourself.
 
Where do you live?  Who helps with your care?
 
Lori Michaelson
C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post
Tucson, AZ
 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: kaye allard
Date: 07/25/05 13:01:19
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Hi, new member, supra pubic, etc...
 I hope I'm doing this right!I've been injured for 13 years, C6.  Six months or so after my injury I had a procedure called mitrofanoff where the surgeon used my appendix to make a "tunnel" that goes from my belly button to my bladder.  So I cath via my navel.  Less chance for bacteria to be introduced, being that it's away from the vaginal area and all.  I can do it anywhere so long as I have a catheter, empty bottle and betadine swabs.  I have had my share of Utis and have minimized reoccurance (and symptoms which are enough without having the actual infection) by sticking to sterile catheters drinking lots of water and stuff and staying away from caffeine and taking cranberry capsules.That's my experience.-k-- Life is 440 horsepower in a 2-cylinder engine. -Henry Miller 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi- i'm back

[Quietstream25322]

    Thanks for your input all..No more bloody urine 
since, so like you guy's are saying ..I think it will be ok.
   
Thanks !  Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi- i'm back

[B. Kimberlin \(Quadius\)]

I tend to agree with Dave. I have a suprapubic this has occurred periodically over the last 10 years. I can usually trace it to some sort of trauma. If there are no other symptoms of a UTI, would not worry too much about it right now.
Billy"David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Dan,
 
If it was a bright red blood and it hasn't happened again I'd think it was some kind of irritation from the trip.  Watch it and if that's the only blood you probably don't need to worry.  I'm really glad you were able to get away on a vacation.  Glad it went well.
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi - all, I 'm back this weekend from a little vacation to Memphis area. My 1st trip since almost 8 years since injury.Had a great time.  I have a question for list.. This morning after wife got me up, I had bloody urine for about an hour then it cleared up again. I have a supra pubic catheter and usually do pretty well except for the pain and bacteria that they say will always be present with supra pubics. I was checked for stones last November and was told all looked ok. Has anyone else ever had this happen or know of a website that can list posible causes for bloody urine ?
    Thanks,   Dan c-6    8 yrs.post.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi- i'm back

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Dan,
 
If it was a bright red blood and it hasn't happened again I'd think it was some kind of irritation from the trip.  Watch it and if that's the only blood you probably don't need to worry.  I'm really glad you were able to get away on a vacation.  Glad it went well.
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi - all, I 'm back this weekend from a little vacation to Memphis area. My 1st trip since almost 8 years since injury.Had a great time.  I have a question for list.. This morning after wife got me up, I had bloody urine for about an hour then it cleared up again. I have a supra pubic catheter and usually do pretty well except for the pain and bacteria that they say will always be present with supra pubics. I was checked for stones last November and was told all looked ok. Has anyone else ever had this happen or know of a website that can list posible causes for bloody urine ?
    Thanks,   Dan c-6    8 yrs.post.

Re: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad

[Dana Miller]

Its amazing and interesting when people suddenly wind up practically in your 
back yard--or used to!  Yes, a very small world!

Dana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "David K. Kelmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad


Hi Dana,
I still have family living in Belleville.  My mother's maiden name is 
Kane.  I was born in Redbud because my mom couldn't make the 29 miles to 
the Scott Air Force Base Hospital.  My older brother was born there, too, 
but we lived in Du Quion, IL.  A small world!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 28 Years Post
Texas, USA
Dana Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you still live in Washington? Thats just down I-70 from Columbia. The
Corn Cob Pipe Capital of the World! He! Haw! Very hilly area next to the
river. Went thru it many times on the way to a fellow dog shower that 
lived
out in the boonies near Union. Then we would go to Belleville Ill. or
somewhere else around St. Louis!

Dana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad


Well my story is pretty interesting. In short I went to the police 
academy
in 97 and graduated oct 97 was 21 years old at time. Did security for a
couple months until I was hired by Washington Missouri Police Dept. I
started
there Dec 1, 97. Things were going well i met a girl right away who was
training
to be a cop. Well the fun didn't last very long. On Jan16, 98 I was on my
way
home from work in my Geo Tracker. I came to a corner and wasn't familiar
with
the road yet, I was going to fast, back end slid out and I rolled and was
ejected onto highway. I wasn't wearing a seat belt. When I hit the ground
my
head took the impact, I broke my neck and damaged my spinal cord. then I
spent
over three months in hospital, lost girlfriend as well as many other
friends
and aquaintances.

I came to quadlist when I got this syrinx, I needed to know how others
were
dealing with it.
Ron c7

Re: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Dana,
 
I still have family living in Belleville.  My mother's maiden name is Kane.  I was born in Redbud because my mom couldn't make the 29 miles to the Scott Air Force Base Hospital.  My older brother was born there, too, but we lived in Du Quion, IL.  A small world!
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA   Dana Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you still live in Washington? Thats just down I-70 from Columbia. The Corn Cob Pipe Capital of the World! He! Haw! Very hilly area next to the river. Went thru it many times on the way to a fellow dog shower that lived out in the boonies near Union. Then we would go to Belleville Ill. or somewhere else around St. Louis!Dana[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:42 PMSubject: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad> Well my story is pretty interesting. In short I went to the police academy> in 97 and graduated oct 97 was 21 years old at time. Did security for a> couple months until I was hired by Washington Missouri Police Dept. I > started> there Dec 1, 97. Things were going well i met a girl right away who was
 > training> to be a cop. Well the fun didn't last very long. On Jan16, 98 I was on my > way> home from work in my Geo Tracker. I came to a corner and wasn't familiar > with> the road yet, I was going to fast, back end slid out and I rolled and was> ejected onto highway. I wasn't wearing a seat belt. When I hit the ground > my> head took the impact, I broke my neck and damaged my spinal cord. then I > spent> over three months in hospital, lost girlfriend as well as many other > friends> and aquaintances.>>> I came to quadlist when I got this syrinx, I needed to know how others > were> dealing with it.>>> Ron c7> 

Re: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad

[Dana Miller]

Do you still live in Washington?  Thats just down I-70 from Columbia.  The 
Corn Cob Pipe Capital of the World!  He! Haw!  Very hilly area next to the 
river.  Went thru it many times on the way to a fellow dog shower that lived 
out in the boonies near Union.  Then we would go to Belleville Ill. or 
somewhere else around St. Louis!

Dana
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] hi littlequad


Well my story is pretty interesting. In short I went to the police academy
in 97 and graduated oct 97 was 21 years old at time. Did  security for a
couple months until I was hired by Washington Missouri Police Dept. I 
started
there Dec 1, 97. Things were going well i met a girl right away who was 
training
to be a cop. Well the fun didn't last very long. On Jan16, 98 I was on my 
way
home from work in my Geo Tracker. I came to a corner and wasn't familiar 
with
the road yet, I was going to fast, back end slid out and I rolled and was
ejected onto highway. I wasn't wearing a seat belt. When I hit the ground 
my
head took the impact, I broke my neck and damaged my spinal cord. then I 
spent
over three months in hospital, lost girlfriend as well as many other 
friends
and  aquaintances.

I came to quadlist when I got this syrinx, I needed to know how others 
were
dealing with it.

   Ron c7

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi friends

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Shar,
 
I'm glad to hear your computer woes are over, and hope to see you posting more.  I am well and hope you are the same.  Take care.
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi friends.  I am finally able to get back on the q-list after getting my computer problems fixed, and now having some time after the holidays.  I hope everyone is doing well.  I received some information about the Extreme Makover: Home Edition show that's on this Sunday.  I am going to forward it to the q-list.  I look forward to hearing from everyone again, and meeting new people who are here since I've been gone.  Take care.  Sharleen C5/6 

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi friends

[Smurfonwheels]

In a message dated 16/01/2005 00:28:29 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Hi friends.  I am finally able to get back on the 
  q-list after getting my computer problems fixed, and now having some time 
  after the holidays.  I hope everyone is doing well.  I received some 
  information about the Extreme Makover: Home Edition show that's on this 
  Sunday.  I am going to forward it to the q-list.  I look forward to 
  hearing from everyone again, and meeting new people who are here since I've 
  been gone.  Take care.  Sharleen C5/6 


Hey Sharleen,
 
Great to have you back on the list! And you W!
 
Love Smurf xxx
 

RE: [QUAD-L] Hi to some quads I think about often

[Lori Michaelson]

At Saturday 10/23/2004 06:58 PM, you wrote:
Hi
Lori,
 
I'm also glad to see you posting again.
I'm also fighting a wound. It looks like I'll be bed bound again as mines
starting to get worse again, from being up to go to school.

As well as seeing you post again Jerry!  Let
us fight these wounds in unison!
Lori
http:\\www.michaelsons.org

Re: [QUAD-L] Hi to some quads I think about often

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Lori,
 
I hope you're wound is getting better.  I know how it is not being able to be on the PC much.  I'm getting mine to clear-up but it wants to break down when I do too much, on the PC or otherwise.  I am glad to see you're posting again.  :-)
 
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since battling my wound of 5 months I haven't been on the PC much and, when I am, little to no time to write. But hours on end to think.Pain ... Hi to Corie who, despite chronic pain, got her Maser's and works what she can!Same to Tod - working with pain. However he never answered my traveling questions but jumps in when politics come up! :-)To Dave who has been battlin a crease wound as well!To Sam who has been bedridden like myself for a wound.And to Julie - she knows me locally!A couple people have asked questions but my responses may be well delayed.My wound has closed so I'll be getting up short hours and increasing my time up if things stay ok.This was one stubborn wound and I wouldn't be this far without having used the wound vac and high protein drinks. My skin is healthy so I guess the place
 of the wound had the most to do with its healing - the worsrt place to treat one ... in the crease deep under a buttock cheek.Lorihttp:\\www.michaelsons.org