[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica saddle break in question.
I have the SA on almost all of my bikes now, i like it so much. A couple of notes that have worked for me: - I dont tension often at all in the beginning. As others have suggested, that just lessens the life span. After it sags and forms to me, i'll tighten to feel (not to a measurement) and then don't have to tighten often from there. -for the same longevity reason, i don't treat the leather. I DO keep a bag or cover handy in case of rain though, and try not to ride at all if it's wet and i dont have fenders to protect the underside. - i lightly sand the sharp edges of the cutout. This eliminates pinching that sometimes happens if it's not tensioned enough - especially since i seldom use padded shorts now. - in the early days when Tom Milton was alive, he used to include very a detailed guide for setting up the saddle and keeping track of subtle adjustments as you would dial in the perfect position. I could probably find and scan and post one of those if you're interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
Part of the problem is the first edition Clems used those weird ratchety shifters that weren't really friction, weren't really Power Ratchets. Mostly they just sucked. Also, in my 56-years-old case, I just can't hear bad shifting like I used to. Friction is more work than when I was a youngster banging giant stem levers on Schwinn Varsitys. Gimme them clicks, man! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I got a 59cm clem frame as soon as it was released and have had a similar love/frustration experience as yours ever since. One one hand, it's the bike that seems most appropriate most of the time and is what i most want to ride. But there have been a few nagging setup issues. After changing the build multiple times, the one i still haven't resolved to satisfaction is that of the handlebars. However, I'll say that every time i try something OTHER than the boscos (including and especially the billie), i realize how much I actually like the bosco, and end up putting it back on. I have the aluminum 58cm version on a 130mm negative rise technomic stem because i wanted to get them as low as possible. I'm actually able to take advantage of all that real estate because my stem allows me to angle the ends significantly downward. But they're still not quite far enough away even then, and my one big, deal-killer complaint is with their flexiness. Standing or sprinting or trying to throw the bike around on rough terrain is truly frustrating and sometimes even scarry to me. If the flex doesn't bother you, the billie might be worth trying, but I'll tell you right now that it's just as flexy AND even narrower. My plan is to try the steel bull moose version next, even though it would raise the bars more than i want. If it eliminates the flex, I'll adapt to the height and be content. If not, I'll break down and do what others here have suggested: go for the sure-fired solution of putting a jones loop or, maybe, a surly open bar on it. The only reason i've fought against going that route is because so many others of my bikes - including my Jones itself - already have them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
My partner and I did this for a while with a 60cm Cheviot. She's 5' 6" and I'm 6' 4". It worked but it wasn't really ideal, too much compromise in fit and even though it only took a few minutes to adjust the bars and saddle I just got tired of having to futz with the bike all the time. If you do decide to do it swept back bars like ablas are essential imo otherwise the reach disparity will probably be an issue. It was amazing that we could share a bike though given the difference in our height. One other thing was even though she technically fit in terms of saddle height and being able to reach the bars the bike always seemed too big for her, it was hard for her to handle such a long bike and get it in and out of our apartment. If your wife only rides once a month or so it might be fine. I think Adam's advice is good. My partner loves her medium MB-1. It has swept back riser bars, a front rack with basket, and easy gears. It fits her great and most importantly it's HERS. She has gotten into working on it some and adding her own touches. She is stoked and so am I. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Not that familiar with the Clem, but I was able to fit fine on my wife's Betty Foy, I have a PBH of 91 hers is much less closer to 74 as I recall. The bike was sized by Kevin for her dimensions only. I just use a 410mm seat post and my own B17 to ride it. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Sean, check the "WTB 52 Clem L" thread, somebody mentioned having a first edition blue one. I've seen that color live in person and it looks great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
IME Friction works great withSilver Shifters, Microshift R10/Deore/SunXCD rear derailers with 7-speed cassette and 4.5mm spacer or 8 speed cassette, both on Shimano type 8/9/10 freehub body. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I should have mentioned that, friction shifting seemed perfectly fine back in the day with my childhood 10 and 12 speeds in the 70s and 80s, but now it seems out of sync. I don't know if it's the additional 2 gears in the back or I'm just spoiled by years of indexed shifting. But anyway. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:51 PM Jim Bronson wrote: > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I > moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was > having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put > the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun > ride. I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a > quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway. From there I can > cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system. > > The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to > ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass > tires. The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself > wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes. I also find the > traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the > regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going > around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where > I point my wheels. It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. > > Which is a good segue into what I don't like. I bought my 65 ClemH > complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super > enamored of is the Bosco bars. This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide > (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me. I feel like I > might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding. I feel I would prefer a > bar with less intrusion into my midsection. I'd also prefer something a > little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my > midsection will take care of itself. It just doesn't feel dialed in the > way it is now. > > Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie > bars. I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference. I'm > thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than > the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor. Truth is my > drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the > Billie would work I think > > Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider > version. > https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not > familar. I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route > would cost me more out of pocket. > > Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? > > The other thing I don't like is friction shifting. Does Microshift or > SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie? I was hoping to re-use the thumb > pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in > friction. I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different > thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require > a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. > > Any thoughts? > > -Jim > > > > -- > -- > signature goes here > -- -- signature goes here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica saddle break in question.
Thanks. I have some Obenaufs. Nose is 1/8” up. Felt good today. Letting it stretch more before tightening again. Too hard under sit bones when tighten to the recommended 6mm. So I’m letting it stretch and enjoying the lower tension. I have found that the saddle is so comfortable, besides the sit bone pressure when properly tensioned, that I barely change hand and body positions compared to my Brooks saddles. I find myself unmoving and keeping the same position for long periods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I also swapped out the Bosco bar for a Jones 2.5 riser loop and much prefer the angle and width of the Jones. My 65cm Clem H came stock with 55cm cromo Bosco and Tallux stem. I think I’d have been happier with the 58cm Boscomoose, but traded for a Jones before purchasing a new Boscomoose and now I’m not inclined too after settling in with the Jones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica saddle break in question.
I have 3 on bikes and love them. I use Obenaufs to moisturize without making too soft. And in small amounts. Comfy from day 1. I like a slight hammock in mine and generally level heel/nose set up. My oldest has 7,000 miles (I weigh around 150 and Riv only sold the heavy duty model so that's what I use). You can also get a longer bolt to get more life from them. Don't over tension. Check yoru position. Your nose may need to come up to give you a flatter sit bone landing area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines
And I’ll take option A if still available! Darin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)
Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an irrational thirst for their super loud pawls. Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust. The high flange model is currently a two month lead time. Thanks! Alex Wirth Rochester, NY ***If you have one but it's not silver, I'm all ears -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines
Can I have B please? Shipping to 17363 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines
For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. For my sanity, please choose: A) all of the Riv catalogs or B) all of the BQ mags or C) All of it Riv catalogs:Spring 02Fall/Winter 02Spring/Summer 03Summer/Fall 03Spring/Summer 04Winter 04/05Fall/Winter 052006 #12006 #22007 #19 Bicycle Quarterly magazines: 2008 Winter 2009 Spring, Autumn, Winter2010 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter2011 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter2012 Spring Please don't resell these but instead pass them along when you are done.Reply off list to: bone1...@yahoo.com Thanks-Norman 'So much younger then' BonePortland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I would think Choco or Albatross bars would work great on a Clem. Perhaps the combination of how high and far back the Boscos come could be why you're feeling they aren't wide enough? I would think a bar that got a little closer to the stem would feel better. Eamon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 90 degree stem
Kevin- Send me details off list please! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I had a Clem with the stock build, and like you, I found the Boscos weren't for me. Lots of real estate, none of it valuable. I much prefer my Jones Loop on my Clem. You'll have to get a 31.8mm stem, though. It's worth the minimal hassle. I wasn't big on the soft index/friction shifting, either. I have indexed Sram grip shifter 9 speed on my bar now. That's a nice combination with the Jones bar. Eric On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 4:51 PM Jim Bronson wrote: > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I > moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was > having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put > the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun > ride. I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a > quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway. From there I can > cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system. > > The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to > ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass > tires. The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself > wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes. I also find the > traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the > regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going > around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where > I point my wheels. It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. > > Which is a good segue into what I don't like. I bought my 65 ClemH > complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super > enamored of is the Bosco bars. This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide > (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me. I feel like I > might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding. I feel I would prefer a > bar with less intrusion into my midsection. I'd also prefer something a > little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my > midsection will take care of itself. It just doesn't feel dialed in the > way it is now. > > Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie > bars. I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference. I'm > thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than > the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor. Truth is my > drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the > Billie would work I think > > Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider > version. > https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not > familar. I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route > would cost me more out of pocket. > > Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? > > The other thing I don't like is friction shifting. Does Microshift or > SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie? I was hoping to re-use the thumb > pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in > friction. I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different > thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require > a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. > > Any thoughts? > > -Jim > > > > -- > -- > signature goes here > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 137 Wald + Which Front Rack?
How do you mount the Jandd extreme front onto the fork? My fork only has the higher riv-type bosses and not lowrider bosses. Can I still mount the extreme front rack with only the higher riv bosses? On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 10:29:02 AM UTC-7, nash...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have mine on a jandd 'extreme' front rack. Its black and bigger than the > little platform racks but is rated to 40 lbs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 90 degree stem
Threaded or threadless? I've got a couple threaded. On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:55:19 AM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > Hey folks- > For half a minute Riv sold some 90 degree Nitto stems. Is anyone holding > one they’d like to get rid of? I have cash and goods. > > Or conversely does anyone know of a place to buy a right angle Nitto stem? > > -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
Have you considered a Jones H-Bar or the upcoming RBW Wavie bar? I recently bought the Jones 2.5 (inches of rise) loop bar and I'm very impressed with it. It offers many hand positions and it makes the steering much more confidence inspiring. Judging from the recent RBW catalog, the Wavie bar looks to have a similar sweep angle and it's pretty wide at 66cm. On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:51:21 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I > moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was > having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put > the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun > ride. I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a > quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway. From there I can > cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system. > > The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to > ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass > tires. The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself > wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes. I also find the > traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the > regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going > around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where > I point my wheels. It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. > > Which is a good segue into what I don't like. I bought my 65 ClemH > complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super > enamored of is the Bosco bars. This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide > (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me. I feel like I > might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding. I feel I would prefer a > bar with less intrusion into my midsection. I'd also prefer something a > little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my > midsection will take care of itself. It just doesn't feel dialed in the > way it is now. > > Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie > bars. I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference. I'm > thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than > the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor. Truth is my > drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the > Billie would work I think > > Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider > version. > https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not > familar. I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route > would cost me more out of pocket. > > Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? > > The other thing I don't like is friction shifting. Does Microshift or > SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie? I was hoping to re-use the thumb > pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in > friction. I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different > thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require > a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. > > Any thoughts? > > -Jim > > > > -- > -- > signature goes here > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I'm currently riding Billies on my Clem. I've run them on two, actually, I recently just swapped down to a 45cm Clem after admitting to myself the 52cm was too big, and I've tried the Billies on both. I like them best flipped upside down, but my wrists are still pretty fussy after a couple years of being just a little too stretched out too often, so, I'm riding them the upright way for the moment. They feel notably narrower to me than the Boscos did (I had the 58cm also). More aggressive, in both positions.Maybe it's just because as you creep up the Billies they really do get narrower fast, while the Boscos run more or less straight through the bends. The by-the-stem flats of the Boscos were a little better for dipping out of the wind, but the on-the-bends hooks of the Billie are less stress on my wrists and I can stay in them longer. The Billies come back a little farther for the same stem length, so, if you're already banging knees they won't help much with that. You could chop'em, but part of the appeal is they have enough length for two full hands before the bends, so, you can have one position behind the brake lever and one in front. I do like that about them a lot. For me the Billie has the more comfortable flare angle of the two. On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I > moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was > having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put > the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun > ride. I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a > quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway. From there I can > cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system. > > The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to > ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass > tires. The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself > wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes. I also find the > traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the > regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going > around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where > I point my wheels. It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. > > Which is a good segue into what I don't like. I bought my 65 ClemH > complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super > enamored of is the Bosco bars. This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide > (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me. I feel like I > might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding. I feel I would prefer a > bar with less intrusion into my midsection. I'd also prefer something a > little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my > midsection will take care of itself. It just doesn't feel dialed in the > way it is now. > > Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie > bars. I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference. I'm > thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than > the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor. Truth is my > drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the > Billie would work I think > > Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider > version. > https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not > familar. I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route > would cost me more out of pocket. > > Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? > > The other thing I don't like is friction shifting. Does Microshift or > SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie? I was hoping to re-use the thumb > pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in > friction. I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different > thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require > a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. > > Any thoughts? > > -Jim > > > > -- > -- > signature goes here > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend
I'd love to join you but have been hobbled all summer with a foot injury. I see a surgeon next week and fear bad news. Michael On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > Hello Northeast Rivs! > > There's been hints at getting something going for people in the northeast > this year. This is the "official" invite. Weigh in if you have interest > and we'll make it happen. > > > The general plan: > > -Meet in Pittsford, NY > > -Day 1 Ride ~30 miles (+/- roughly 1,000 ft elevation) of mixed > path/gravel and secondary roads south to this park on Canandaigua Lake: > > http://townofcanandaigua.org/portfolio_page.asp?id=2 > > (Former YMCA camp, bunch of cabins available right now so I don't think we > would have any issues making reservations) > > -Day 2 ~30 ish mile loop around one of the other lakes, lunch, maybe take > in a local brew haus...route TBD. Return to the camp/cabins. > > -Day 3 ~40 miles (+/- 1,000 elevation) back north along a different route. > Again a mixed bag of secondary roads and gravel/paths. > > Mix in plenty of rest stops, taking in the scenes, leisure, snacks, > general merriment. > > > Could be 10/5, 6, 7 or 10/6, 7, 8 depending upon who has Columbus Day > off/group preferences. > > Here's a very general route using default google maps routes to give you a > flavor of the area...https://goo.gl/maps/3sgU1mjBvM32 Our route would > be a little more discerning. > > In general I like the cabin idea as it makes the Just Ride ethos very easy > and accessible for everyone. Same with the mileage, 30-40 mile days are > accessible for most people even without any prep. There could always be a > more camping "epic" fully loaded jambaroo some other time. > > > > Sowhat do you think? > > Alex Wirth > Rochester, NY > > [image: 36063080_1714223618656754_2492650459974598656_n.jpg] > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
I have some SunRace 8sp indexed thumbies just sitting around, err... shiftless. Drop me a PM if you are interested. > > Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr
The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I moved. I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun ride. I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway. From there I can cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system. The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass tires. The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes. I also find the traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where I point my wheels. It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say. Which is a good segue into what I don't like. I bought my 65 ClemH complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super enamored of is the Bosco bars. This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me. I feel like I might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding. I feel I would prefer a bar with less intrusion into my midsection. I'd also prefer something a little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my midsection will take care of itself. It just doesn't feel dialed in the way it is now. Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie bars. I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference. I'm thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor. Truth is my drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the Billie would work I think Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider version. https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not familar. I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route would cost me more out of pocket. Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem? The other thing I don't like is friction shifting. Does Microshift or SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie? I was hoping to re-use the thumb pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in friction. I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer. Any thoughts? -Jim -- -- signature goes here -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend
I'd love to go but I'm way down here in NYC. Hope it's a blast! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
If you want the lowest seat possible, use a straight seatpost with a standard separate seatpost clamp. Rotate the rail clamps 180 degrees from where most people have them so that they are below the clamp through bolt instead of above it. You can put the seat about an inch lower with this method - the seat rails are almost touching the top of the seat tube. Laing Cocoa, FL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Good point, Sean, that is indeed a B17..I don't use any other saddles so I forgot about the height they carry. I just matched up a beater Cambium I have and you're right about the difference, this just might work! You might as well snag a 52 L and try it, the worst that can happen is you'll still need to buy her another bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 90 degree stem
That's a good tip -- I didn't realize what the Dynamic ll (2) was. SimWorks has a Nitto in silver or black. It's 25.4 (it's a beauty, too) https://sim.works/collections/stems-simworks-by-nitto/products/gettin-hungry-stem-lettuce?variant=16532774595 Velo Orange has one with a 31.8 clamp and removable face plate. https://velo-orange.com/collections/stems/products/quill-stem-with-removable-faceplate-31-8mm On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 12:39:33 PM UTC-4, pb wrote: > > Justin, if you cruise the bay looking for Nitto Dynamic II or 2 you'll > find 90 degree stems. Limited choice and standard (short) quills, e.g. > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dynamic-2-Stem-22-2X120Mm-90-D-25-4Mm-Bar-/192451916066 > > ~pb > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I don't see why this doesn't have a good chance of working. I'm 5' 10" and a52 was fine. I can't do pics at lunch but I am pretty sure there was room to drop the saddle enough for a 5' 2" rider. The bike was designed around Boscos so I don't see reach being a problem if you go with those. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] soon FS: Clem 65 H and Litespeed Blue Ridge Titanium Touring 21" (posting for friend)
Hi folks, I'm going to be posting my 65 Clem-H as soon as I can get a few minutes to prep it and take some pics. It's pretty much a stock build...for a Joe Appaloosa. (Yes, a Joe. Here's how this came to be: I bought a new complete build Joe Appa, found it too small for me, so transferred the bits from Joe to the 65-Clem frame, put on Bosco Bars and sold the Joe frame. So now you know) Ridden about 75 miles, so about equivalent to a demo. More details to come. I'm thinking $1100 for the Clem. Now, as for the the LiteSpeed: a long time neighbor, cycling buddy, and wonderful human-being of 85 years old is asking for my help in selling his titanium LiteSpeed Blue Ridge. He figures it to be a 2004 model and has measured it to be a 21 inch frame. Aluminum fork, Matrix Aurora rims, 105 and Deore parts, 3 x 9 bar end shifters, and lots of room for cushy tires. He's thinking ~$1900 but is open to offers. (I think it's a steal at that price and wish the frame was a 27"). Located in Ohio. Okay, so let me know. Thanks! Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 2000 All Rounder
Wow great build and lovey frame! On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 9:25:42 AM UTC-4, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: > > Short ride on a foggy Sunday morning to shake things down and make minor >> adjustments. Swapped everything over from the Atlantis in no time at all, >> although I did use some older XT derailers I had on hand. Not much to dial >> in, it's a really wonderful ride. The NCRR Rail Trail Station in New >> Freedom PA offers some nice photo ops, so here you go. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
If it were me, I'd build up an early 90s mountain bike with bosco's and flat pedals and easy gearing and a basket, buy the 59 clem (that fits you best), and call it a day. even though the clem L is cheaper than your custom rando, it's still a nice, expensive bike that there's no reason to sacrifice anything on. this way you won't have to deal with any annoying swaps or spend too much on something if your s/o doesn't end up using it as much as you anticipated. i am roughly your size and just got a 59 clem L and it's pretty amazing. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:49:23 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend
So far we have John, Marc, me David and a maybe from Joel. I have a few other Riv people invites out there that aren't in the forum... Anybody else? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend
Just reserved my cabin for the 6th & 7thbunch of cabins left but probably shouldn't wait too too long... Excited! On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote: > > Hello Northeast Rivs! > > There's been hints at getting something going for people in the northeast > this year. This is the "official" invite. Weigh in if you have interest > and we'll make it happen. > > > The general plan: > > -Meet in Pittsford, NY > > -Day 1 Ride ~30 miles (+/- roughly 1,000 ft elevation) of mixed > path/gravel and secondary roads south to this park on Canandaigua Lake: > > http://townofcanandaigua.org/portfolio_page.asp?id=2 > > (Former YMCA camp, bunch of cabins available right now so I don't think we > would have any issues making reservations) > > -Day 2 ~30 ish mile loop around one of the other lakes, lunch, maybe take > in a local brew haus...route TBD. Return to the camp/cabins. > > -Day 3 ~40 miles (+/- 1,000 elevation) back north along a different route. > Again a mixed bag of secondary roads and gravel/paths. > > Mix in plenty of rest stops, taking in the scenes, leisure, snacks, > general merriment. > > > Could be 10/5, 6, 7 or 10/6, 7, 8 depending upon who has Columbus Day > off/group preferences. > > Here's a very general route using default google maps routes to give you a > flavor of the area...https://goo.gl/maps/3sgU1mjBvM32 Our route would > be a little more discerning. > > In general I like the cabin idea as it makes the Just Ride ethos very easy > and accessible for everyone. Same with the mileage, 30-40 mile days are > accessible for most people even without any prep. There could always be a > more camping "epic" fully loaded jambaroo some other time. > > > > Sowhat do you think? > > Alex Wirth > Rochester, NY > > [image: 36063080_1714223618656754_2492650459974598656_n.jpg] > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 90 degree stem
Justin, if you cruise the bay looking for Nitto Dynamic II or 2 you'll find 90 degree stems. Limited choice and standard (short) quills, e.g. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dynamic-2-Stem-22-2X120Mm-90-D-25-4Mm-Bar-/192451916066 ~pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Joe, that's a really helpful pic, thanks! I see why you have reservations about the 52 working for my wife. In the end, I totally get the advice, and appreciate it. Any incarnation of a 52 Clem for my wife would be pushing it, and I know the mantra, the best bike is the one that fits. With that out of the way, and because this is fun to dream about, even if not realistic, is that a standard B17 on there? The B17 is ~2.5cm taller than the Cambium I'd put on the Clem, so that buys a bit for the amount of seatpost we could play with. It'd be tight, there's no denying it... On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:24:43 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Yeah, there's something off about Cam's numbers. My PBH is close to his > wife's and this is what my 52 H looked like, saddle at 69-70cm. These pics > also show why I think the bike is too tall for *your* wife, especially if > you get a complete with the stock 173mm cranks. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/5xoNvM8YyUq6fpes6 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Yeah, there's something off about Cam's numbers. My PBH is close to his wife's and this is what my 52 H looked like, saddle at 69-70cm. These pics also show why I think the bike is too tall for *your* wife, especially if you get a complete with the stock 173mm cranks. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5xoNvM8YyUq6fpes6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Cam, I'm kinda shocked that you have to slam the seatpost on the Clem for your wife with an 81cm PBH when Riv states that folks with PBH starting at 74 can ride the Clem, that's a 7cm difference. Do you have a super tall sprung saddle on?? The seat tube is 52cm C-T, right? On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:50:11 AM UTC-5, cam starnes wrote: > > my wife and i currently “share” a 52c clem. it’s my bike, but when we ride > together with our two kids i’m usually the one pulling the kids (xtracycle > edgerunner, and it’s awesome), and she rides my bike because she prefers it > to her own. works well, honestly, we just move the seat up and down a lot. > however, my wife is 5’6” with a PBH of 81 and we basically have the > seatpost slammed for her. so, my concern would be that even shoved all the > way down to the rails of the seatpost the 52 clem might still be too tall > for your wife. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 90 degree stem
Hey folks- For half a minute Riv sold some 90 degree Nitto stems. Is anyone holding one they’d like to get rid of? I have cash and goods. Or conversely does anyone know of a place to buy a right angle Nitto stem? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
For a data point, my wife was able to ride my Schwinn High Sierra without any complaints. It measures at 20" (~50.8cm) C-T seattube TT is 56.5cm, and at the time was outfitted with a 120mm Deluxe steam and Albatross bars. So, my thinking was, add 1 cm to the seat tube, I'll check and see how her saddle height was on the High Sierra, but, it has the monstrously tall original Viscount foam saddle. A lower profile saddle would effectively gain her a cm or two. Honestly, I'm more worried about reach than saddle height. She seemed fine with the Albas, but the 52 Clem has a TT almost 5cm longer. I'm guessing this could negated with a 100mm stem and some Choco bars. I don't know, if Grant can ride a 60cm Cheviot, which the Riv chart would have him barely squeezing on, and call it his smoothest riding, nearly favorite bike, I wonder why the same couldn't happen with my wife and the 52 Clem L? Something to chew on I guess... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
my wife and i currently “share” a 52c clem. it’s my bike, but when we ride together with our two kids i’m usually the one pulling the kids (xtracycle edgerunner, and it’s awesome), and she rides my bike because she prefers it to her own. works well, honestly, we just move the seat up and down a lot. however, my wife is 5’6” with a PBH of 81 and we basically have the seatpost slammed for her. so, my concern would be that even shoved all the way down to the rails of the seatpost the 52 clem might still be too tall for your wife. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica saddle break in question.
On both my SA saddles break in time was nil. Perfect out of the box. I would not recommend conditioning the leather too much as they are known for stretching rather fast. Tighten/loosen the bolt as needed, I usually just have about a finger tip width between under the saddle and the seatpost top (while under load) On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 10:19:20 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Love my x2 saddle. All the suspension and cush I need and about a pound > lighter than my Flyer saddles. > > But my sit bones hurt sometimes, as the saddle feels hard against their > bony points. Sometimes I can feel tissue grinding between them and the > saddle. Then after a while feels fine. Then comes back again. Usually worst > at beginning of a ride. Gets better as the ride goes on. > > How long does it take to break in these saddles for the sit bones? Saddle > is very comfortable in every other way. > > This is a new saddle. I used saddle sauce on it already. Might do another > dose. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne
Eric, That sounds perfect! Looking forward to pictures of the build and, yes, ride reports! Building up a bike, then riding, tweaking, adding and subtracting, making it your own, can be such a great thing. Congrats again on the new Rivendell! Bob On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:11:24 AM UTC-5, Eric Myers wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > For today's Sam I would definitely want the 58cm. I took my sizing for > this bike from the Rivendell Reader #41, which introduced the Sam, with the > 60cm being for PBH 87-94. Mine is that original green color, but with a > pewter colored head badge rather than gold, so I think it's from the early > years but I don't know exactly which. Serial number starts with M9 in case > that means anything. I'm putting Albatross bars on it, so I've got that > angle covered :-) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I have to say, this is an experiment I'd like to see happen. Not sure why everyone is nay-saying it. The Riv geometry charts have both of your PBH within that range, and I always think Grant is conservative in making those. If you can get to a 52 Clem, why not test it out? And everyone saying such and such height difference will never work, hogwash. Bike share bikes are designed to fit people from 4'10" to 6'5". Clearly bikes can be designed to fit a wide range of sizes and it looks like Rivendell did that with the Clem L. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne
Hi Bob, For today's Sam I would definitely want the 58cm. I took my sizing for this bike from the Rivendell Reader #41, which introduced the Sam, with the 60cm being for PBH 87-94. Mine is that original green color, but with a pewter colored head badge rather than gold, so I think it's from the early years but I don't know exactly which. Serial number starts with M9 in case that means anything. I'm putting Albatross bars on it, so I've got that angle covered :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS Schwalbe Big Apple 29 2.15 Tires
Unless you know a trick I don't, those tires will never squeeze into a small flat rate box. *Maybe* a medium... For shipping add $7.20(cost of a small flat rate box). > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne
I can't speak to the saddle bag issue but be aware the design of the Sam seems to have changed over the years. I think the earlier versions possibly had a bias for swept back handlebars as well as maybe some other changes (versus the current Sam). I could be wrong on that though. Comparing the geometry charts is always interesting to me, just to see how bikes evolve: Older versions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4/edit#gid=0 Current versions: https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry I think your 89.5pbh would put you on a current 58cm Sam but I do not know the recommendations from the previous years. Just for reference and planning... Bob On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:17:03 AM UTC-5, Eric Myers wrote: > > Thanks for the extra feedback :-) > > I'm still waiting on some parts I've bought, but man, this bike is huge! > It feels similar in size to the 25" mid-80's Cannondale touring bike I used > to have, which I loved but always felt a little big. (My PBH is 89.5, so > this is sized right according to Rivendell.) > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne
Thanks for the extra feedback :-) I'm still waiting on some parts I've bought, but man, this bike is huge! It feels similar in size to the 25" mid-80's Cannondale touring bike I used to have, which I loved but always felt a little big. (My PBH is 89.5, so this is sized right according to Rivendell.) What I didn't anticipate is that the lower bottom bracket brings the seat -- and therefore my saddle bag -- just close enough to the rear tire that I think I should probably get a rear rack for it. Mark's Rack and the Nitto R10 look like good options, but may need to wait until I can find a used one for sale. Does anyone have any other recommendations? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
I can't effectively ride any of my wife's bikes and she really can't ride mine and our height discrepancies are less than yours. On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:49:23 PM UTC-5, Sean Steinle wrote: > > So, I've never really looked at the Clem L until today, especially not at > the geometry chart. Didn't realize the sizes catered to such wide ranges, > which of course makes sense with a step-through. Here's the dilemma, my > wife is 5'2", just measured her PBH at 73.5 cm. If I was buying a Clem just > for her, it would be the 45, no brainer. I'm 5'10", PBH 86.5, so at the > high end of a 52. Here's why I want to do it: > > >- My wife doesn't ride *that *often, so it's hard to justify spending >Riv money on a bike for her. >- I just bought a beautiful, but expensive rando bike, but it almost >feels too nice to commute on. I feel like something in a lower price tier >would be a bit more freeing. Locking it up outside of a store on the way >home, leaving it outside on a slushy day instead of dragging my rando >through the office (I'm not locking it outside, period). >- Lastly, I just really want a Riv, and I feel like this shared >(multi-purpose, minimalist, need I go on?) bike thing could be the ticket >with my wife. > > My vision for the 52 Clem L: Foul weather (or just all the time, we'd see > how it goes) commuter for me. Then when we go on family rides, my wife will > hop on the Clem and I'll take the rando bike. > > So what's my reservation? I think a 52 Clem would work just fine for me, > and I think my wife could fit it with a slammed seat post, the question is, > could I find a cockpit that she could reach that wouldn't leave me feeling > squished when I'm riding it? Thoughts on this idea in general would be > appreciated! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sharing a 52 Clem L with my much shorter spouse. Feasable? Crazy?
Alas, seems like this wouldn't work out. Riv technically starts at the 52 at a PBH of 74, so I thought with my wife only being 5mm off, perhaps she could squeeze it. I did think about cockpit swap where I would use ergons and thumb shifters so I could switch over without recabling, so you and I were on the same page there, Ed! I'd have to sell my Nobilette rando to afford two Rivs, so I think I'll just keep looking for an old ATB to convert for my foul weather commuter, and continue to fix up the '94 RBT for my wife. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
