Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Erik Wright]

Not to derail too hard, but on the topic of Suntour Superbe brakes, I 
happen to be selling a 1st gen Suntour Superbe group (brakes, levers, DT 
shifters, FD, RD) and a campagnolo crankset in case anybody needs the parts 
to build up this frameset. $300+ship if anyone is interested.

Erik, Philly
On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 5:28:05 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> I had my Ram speed modulated with Suntour Superbe "normal" reach brakes, 
> i.e., 57 mm reach.
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:17:53 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> I only did 700x32 with fenders, I never tried bigger without fenders
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:15 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>>> From the link you provided, it says 700x38 fit? Did you mean 38’s? 
>>> That’s definitely mid-reach territory. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I don't recall if they were short or mid reach. They weren't the 
>>>> Tektro R559s
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 4:07 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the 700x32 set up, did you use regular (short reach) brakes? 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 1:11:55 PM UTC-7 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to part ways with my Ram. It's been a great frame capable 
>>>>>> of lots of different build options, but overlaps too much with my Fitz 
>>>>>> Rando. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was sold to me as a 60, but the top tube measures 57, so it leads 
>>>>>> me to believe its a 58. Here's a link to the original catalog with geo 
>>>>>> chart at the end: 
>>>>>> https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Rambouillet.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frame is in great shape, one small dent on the top tube presumably 
>>>>>> from the handlebar/shifter hitting it. I've tried to capture most of the 
>>>>>> paint scratches. This made a great 650bx42 conversion with fenders. I 
>>>>>> used 
>>>>>> Tektro R559 brakes to reach the lower rim brake surface. As a 700c 
>>>>>> build, I 
>>>>>> was able to do 32s with fenders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comes with an Ultegra Headset installed and cable stops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll include an original Rambouillet catalog as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/kVPXz1K3bdXdt4ax9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $750 plus shipping via ups ground.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Technomic Stem

[Erik Wright]

Hi Joel,

Soma has a couple options. You could look at the 225mm rise Dirt Drop stem 
<https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/nitto-stem-quill-mt-10-dirt-drop-225mm-slv-5647?category=983#attr=288,1136>
 
for some more height, or the mega-tall 280mm rise Nitto Technomic (25.4 
version for your Chocos/Albas 
<https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/nitto-stem-technomic-quill-280mm-xl-25-4mm-4096?page=2=983#attr=4036>)
 
for even more.

Getting a mixte would be pretty cool, but so would keeping your Saluki!

Erik, Philly


On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 11:07:03 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I believe the Nitto technomic stem is basically the Tallux steel, 225 ht. 
> I also believe this is the highest stem rise available. I have used these 
> since I have gone to Albatross and Choco  bars. I bought a frame 2 years 
> ago and unknown to me at the time the steerer tube was cut, the stem height 
> is about 2.5-3 cm less than on my Sam Hillborne and I believe it is enough 
> to aggravate my back, going from yesterdays ride. Any suggestions? I may 
> have to sell the much sought after Saluki frame. If I did with advancing 
> age, some balance issues I would be looking for a Willbury, Yves Gomes or a 
> Cheviot as I like the shorter chainstays better. The Saluki is a 54 cm, so 
> about a 51 by todays models like my Hillborne.  I would have to look at the 
> effective TT lengths on any frame, not sure how Riv sized these step 
> throughs. All I would need would be the ability to use 42mm tires.
>
> If anyone has any ideas I would be open to listen, or if anyone has any of 
> the step throughs I have mentioned above they are looking to sell or trade 
> please let me know.
>
> Thank,
>
> Joel
>

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[RBW] Re: Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

[Erik Wright]

Answering on the practical side (easily swapping handlebars) rather than 
the “should I own two bikes” side of things, Russ from Path Less Pedaled 
did a video a while back on optimizing 1 bike for easy cockpit swaps. 
Basically using a little Jagwire cable splitting doodad so the cables and 
housing can mostly stay in place when swapping bars. It makes more sense if 
your bike has full-length housing, but there may still be some nuggets in 
there that are helpful.

https://youtu.be/qj0qOyw_Es8?si=wKDJKxwHhdtKdBg0

Could be a good in-between option while you’re building up your second bike 
;)

Erik, Philly
On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:23:08 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote:

> Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike paths/paved/gravel/dirt 
> roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. Will suggest the Sam 
> Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I would build it with drops 
> for the long rides but I recently fell in love with albatross bars for 
> upright lazy bike path rides. 
> Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
> inevitable? 
> Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a good 
> combo or is that too much overlap? 
>
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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Erik]

Evening, 

Based on the parameters and details you provided, I think that a Hillborne 
or Appaloosa would work well.  Or an Atlantis instead of the Appaloosa.  I 
have all three, all set up very differently, but each has gone through a 
lot of iterations.  The key for me would be what type of trails you are 
wanting to ride, your size, and trail riding style.  The Hillborne is a 
great bike, fun on the road and pretty nimble on the trail.  The Hillborne 
has a smaller tire width max and lighter tubes.  The Appaloosa or the 
Atlantis are longer and have stouter tubes.  They also take up to a 2.2 
tire.  I've run both as primarily trail bikes and they handled pretty much 
anything I wanted to ride except for the most extreme trails in my local 
parks.  They work really well as trail bikes.  I've run them with 1x 11 (50 
large cog) set ups, 3 x 9  with 11-34 cassettes, and now as 2x.  I live in 
northern California and do a lot of climbing.  The gearing has always been 
fantastic.  My Appaloosa was my primary commuting bike for about five 
years.

Here's my Instagram if you want to get a look at some of the set ups that 
I've used over the years.  It's mostly 
bikes: https://www.instagram.com/lith.o.carp.us/

Hope that helps!

Erik

On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:43:49 PM UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:



With all that said, of the current offerings, what would y’all recommend? 


Thank you

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Platypus - 60cm - $1600

[Erik]

In a van down by the river?  :). SF Bay Area. I have an interested party 
already, but will create a separate FS post if the interested party is not 
interested in moving forward with a purchase.  I don't want to hijack this 
post if the original poster is still trying to sell their bike.  

Erik 

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 12:18:45 PM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:

> Hey Erik, please help us out by saying where you and the Rosco Platy live. 
> Thanks!
> -Wes
>
> On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 8:34:31 AM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>
>> If this one is no longer available, I have a 60cm Rosco Platy complete or 
>> frame I am getting ready to post for sale.  
>>
>> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:02:23 PM UTC-7 snipp...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you sell this? 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:58:22 AM UTC-8 benjamin...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Parting ways with my nearly new Rosco Platypus. Located in Chicago. 
>>>> More pictures available upon request.
>>>>
>>>> Deore 11-speed crankset (32t/175mm crankarms)
>>>> Deore 11-speed derailleur
>>>> Deore 11-speed cassette (11-42)
>>>> Deore 11-speed chain
>>>> Microshift 11-speed thumbie
>>>> Deore v-brakes/levers
>>>> SKS b65 fenders
>>>> Continental 700x50mm tires
>>>> Ergon GC1 grips
>>>> 65cm Rivendell Tosco bars with Nitto 31.8mm quill stem 
>>>> (4-bolt/removable faceplate)
>>>> Alex DM21 rims w/novatec hubs[image: IMG_1489.jpg]
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Tosco-moose and Choco-moose handlebars -- new

[Erik]

Please let me know if the Tosco-moose sale falls through.  I've been 
looking for one for a long time and missed this post by a couple of hours.  

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 9:52:13 AM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Toscos are sold, Chocos are pending. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 8:47:00 AM UTC-5 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> For sale are two new, never mounted handlebars. 
>>
>> The first is a quill-stem Choco-moose. 
>>
>> The second is a Tosco-moose 60 cm with 1/1/8" threadless stem mount. 
>>
>> $110 each plus shipping. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Platypus - 60cm - $1600

[Erik]

If this one is no longer available, I have a 60cm Rosco Platy complete or 
frame I am getting ready to post for sale.  

On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:02:23 PM UTC-7 snipp...@gmail.com wrote:

> Did you sell this? 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:58:22 AM UTC-8 benjamin...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Parting ways with my nearly new Rosco Platypus. Located in Chicago. More 
>> pictures available upon request.
>>
>> Deore 11-speed crankset (32t/175mm crankarms)
>> Deore 11-speed derailleur
>> Deore 11-speed cassette (11-42)
>> Deore 11-speed chain
>> Microshift 11-speed thumbie
>> Deore v-brakes/levers
>> SKS b65 fenders
>> Continental 700x50mm tires
>> Ergon GC1 grips
>> 65cm Rivendell Tosco bars with Nitto 31.8mm quill stem (4-bolt/removable 
>> faceplate)
>> Alex DM21 rims w/novatec hubs[image: IMG_1489.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Built Atlantis (58cm) Frameset & Various Parts

[Erik from Saint Paul]

The frame and Nitto stem have been sold.

On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 5:36:12 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> Had this frame listed last summer, buyer backed out due to unforeseen life 
> expenses, so I packed it away. It's now back up for sale just in time for 
> anyone with a tax refund burning a hole in their pocket to build up their 
> dream bike. 
>
> Rivendell Atlantis built by Waterford in 2018.
> Size: 58cm
> Color: British racing green
> Headset: Chris King (included)
> Seatpost: Kalloy Uno - 26.8mm (included)
> Wheel size: 700c - 135mm rear spacing
> Frame is in really good shape overall, but there are a few cosmetic 
> blemishes like minor scratches, some paint peeling around fender and rack 
> bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front derailleur was mounted. No 
> dents, rust or any structural issues. Brake cable hangers are pictured, but 
> not included.
>
> $1,600 for local sale (Minneapolis/St Paul).
> Willing to ship via Bikeflights for an additional cost to buyer.
>
> I also have a wheelset I can include in the sale for an extra $100. 
> Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs with Surly Knard tires. (Not 
> looking to sell/ship unless it's with the frame).
>
> Other parts for sale:
> * Nitto Technomic stem (26.0mm clamp, 120mm long): $20
> * Velo Orange 46/30 crankset (170mm): $100
> * Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes: $20
> Shipping costs are additional and determined on your location.
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HZoxsvOvQs1LbSL91evmL2d5Tp4TVEtu?usp=share_link>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Waterford Built Atlantis (58cm) Frameset & Various Parts

[Erik from Saint Paul]

Had this frame listed last summer, buyer backed out due to unforeseen life 
expenses, so I packed it away. It's now back up for sale just in time for 
anyone with a tax refund burning a hole in their pocket to build up their 
dream bike. 

Rivendell Atlantis built by Waterford in 2018.
Size: 58cm
Color: British racing green
Headset: Chris King (included)
Seatpost: Kalloy Uno - 26.8mm (included)
Wheel size: 700c - 135mm rear spacing
Frame is in really good shape overall, but there are a few cosmetic 
blemishes like minor scratches, some paint peeling around fender and rack 
bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front derailleur was mounted. No 
dents, rust or any structural issues. Brake cable hangers are pictured, but 
not included.

$1,600 for local sale (Minneapolis/St Paul).
Willing to ship via Bikeflights for an additional cost to buyer.

I also have a wheelset I can include in the sale for an extra $100. 
Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs with Surly Knard tires. (Not 
looking to sell/ship unless it's with the frame).

Other parts for sale:
* Nitto Technomic stem (26.0mm clamp, 120mm long): $20
* Velo Orange 46/30 crankset (170mm): $100
* Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes: $20
Shipping costs are additional and determined on your location.

Photos 



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Re: [RBW] Craigslist 54cm Hunqapillar, $2250, Sunnyvale CA

[Erik]

Shoot.  A 54 and I would have driven to Sunnyvale tonight to buy that. 
 This was the bike I wanted before I got my first Riv.  

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> it's actually a 51...i emailed with the seller
>
> On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 3:16:52 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Dang…
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:21 PM John P. in SF  wrote:
>>
>>> Not mine...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/sunnyvale-rivendell-hunqapillar/7671471793.html
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Tosco-moose Bars, Threadless for the Gus

[Erik]

Some updates: no Tosco-Moose bars have appeared yet and Riv headquarters 
wished me good luck in finding them when I called to ask if one was 
floating around the shop.  

In the meantime, my V-5 arrived from Blue Lug (3 days from order to 
delivery in California!) and I've popped a Losco into them and installed it 
on the Gus.  That V-5 is possibly the most beautiful stem I've ever 
installed on the bike.  I already had Blue Lug spacers and it looks like it 
was all made for the bike.  Greased the bolts and cranked it to 8 nm 
(probably too tight for those bolts!) and unfortunately, the bars do slip a 
little on hard landings which is a no-go for how I ride that bike. 
 Otherwise, I love the fit and feel.  I'm going to put a little anti-slip 
compound on this evening, but I'm not hopeful.  I've had this problem with 
all of my sweptback bars over the years but was hoping that a two-point of 
attachment stem would work better.  I'm too big and ride the bikes on beefy 
trails.  I'm the target audience for a moose-style set up! 

The better news is that I found a frame builder locally who also makes 
handlebars  I'll share the results and contact info if it works out!  It 
won't be cheap, but he already fabricates fillet brazed bullmoose bars, so 
we will see.  

In the meantime, I'm still open to buying your tosco-moose bars!
   

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 2:51:16 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> That’s a good question about whether or not Toscos would be compatible 
> with a V5… Just looking at it, I’m assuming not, since they are not made by 
> Nitto, and don’t have that uniform 100mm clamping area sleeve that a lot of 
> Nitto bars have. It looks to me like it’s just a knurled bulge in the 
> center.
>
> On Aug 30, 2023, at 5:31 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> Would love to hear about anything having to do with a custom made item. 
> Regarding the V-5; mine came from Bluelug & their service was great. I like 
> the stem a lot but was frustrated it came without torque specs. I could not 
> find that info anywhere. I started at 5-6 which was not tight enough to 
> keep my Bosco’s from slipping. I think I am at 7-8 now & is good so far. 
> The Bosco is 25.4 clamp though so if you are doing 31.8…
>
> Just thinking; does the Tosco have the required 100mm wide clamp area for 
> the V-5?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2023, at 6:10 PM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> 
> I have the Nitto V5 on my Tanglefoot Moonshiner. I've tested both the 
> Choco and Billie bar through some of western New England's rockiest rock 
> gardens. The stem does a great job, and neither bar has slipped.
>
> I believe the V5 is designed to perfectly fit Nitto bars that have that 
> 100mm wide by 25.4mm sleeve, which I think means it might not work with a 
> Tosco bar.
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-4 Erik wrote:
>
>> I've looked at just using a beefier stem (I currently run a Paul Boxcar 
>> on the Gus) and a regular Tosco with a 31.8 clamp diameter, but part of 
>> this search is to complete my "moose" collection: I have a bullmoose, a 
>> boscomoose, and chocomoose on different bikes.  I love the look and the 
>> beefiness of the moose configuration!  I ordered a Nitto V-5 this weekend 
>> from Blue Lug.  I have a Tosco and a Losco that I'm going to try out with 
>> that stem on the Gus, but I'm really hoping to find the moose variation. 
>>  I've also considered seeing if I can get a handlebar maker to fabricate 
>> something similar for me.  
>>
>> I appreciate the tips so far!
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Correct Richard... the Tosco with the 31.8 dia. is the widest one 
>>> (650mm). That's what I have on my Gus and it's plenty stiff with my Thomson 
>>> 110 stem. I love wide bars, so that width is perfect for me!
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 1:26:11 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good points. Although, I think the only Tosco with the 31.8 clamp size 
>>>> is the 650 wide one? I had that one on my Clem & agree it is very solid. 
>>>> It 
>>>> was just too wide for me.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 12:00 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Something to consider is that, unlike the normal Bosco, the normal 
>>>> Tosco has a knurled section at the clamp area  and is oversized 31.8 
>>>> diameter.  I agree that the bullmoose works best in terms of stiffness and 
>>>> inability to slip on the Bosco.  The it's the only version of that ba

Re: [RBW] WTB: Tosco-moose Bars, Threadless for the Gus

[Erik]

I've looked at just using a beefier stem (I currently run a Paul Boxcar on 
the Gus) and a regular Tosco with a 31.8 clamp diameter, but part of this 
search is to complete my "moose" collection: I have a bullmoose, a 
boscomoose, and chocomoose on different bikes.  I love the look and the 
beefiness of the moose configuration!  I ordered a Nitto V-5 this weekend 
from Blue Lug.  I have a Tosco and a Losco that I'm going to try out with 
that stem on the Gus, but I'm really hoping to find the moose variation. 
 I've also considered seeing if I can get a handlebar maker to fabricate 
something similar for me.  

I appreciate the tips so far!

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:30:23 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Correct Richard... the Tosco with the 31.8 dia. is the widest one (650mm). 
> That's what I have on my Gus and it's plenty stiff with my Thomson 110 
> stem. I love wide bars, so that width is perfect for me!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 1:26:11 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good points. Although, I think the only Tosco with the 31.8 clamp size is 
>> the 650 wide one? I had that one on my Clem & agree it is very solid. It 
>> was just too wide for me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 12:00 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>> Something to consider is that, unlike the normal Bosco, the normal Tosco 
>> has a knurled section at the clamp area  and is oversized 31.8 diameter.  I 
>> agree that the bullmoose works best in terms of stiffness and inability to 
>> slip on the Bosco.  The it's the only version of that bar that I could get 
>> to work.  However, I have the steel, normal (clamp-on) Tosco on two bikes - 
>> a susie and another mountain bike - and have had none of the flex or 
>> slipping issues I had with a normal Bosco.  I'd suggest trying it if you 
>> know that's what you want, if you can't find a bullmoose version.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 7:38:26 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Erik. I don’t have one (Tosco-Moose) but I have almost made the same 
>>> request several times since building my Gus. I would still be curious to 
>>> try one but think I’ve settled on the next best alternative, the Nitto V-5 
>>> stem. It’s very solid with my 580 Bosco bar & only slips a little if I 
>>> forget to unweight my hands doing a drop. I did try a Boscomoose on my Clem 
>>> & could not deal with the fixed angle - I need the tips downs a  bit. It 
>>> would be nice if doing a lot of the rough stuff to not have to think about 
>>> the bar slipping.
>>> Good luck with your search. I think Will told me that Grant has one on a 
>>> tandem. Maybe you could talk him into parting with it.:)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Erik  wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this is a long shot, but I would love to land a Tosco-moose 
>>> threadless handlebar.  I think they were sold briefly around the time of 
>>> the first run of the Gus Boots Wilsen.  I'm looking to swap out my current 
>>> Gus cockpit for a swept-back option, but I want the moose configuration's 
>>> sturdiness.  
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have one burning a hole in your bike parts stash.  
>>>
>>> Erik 
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[RBW] WTB: Tosco-moose Bars, Threadless for the Gus

[Erik]

I know this is a long shot, but I would love to land a Tosco-moose 
threadless handlebar.  I think they were sold briefly around the time of 
the first run of the Gus Boots Wilsen.  I'm looking to swap out my current 
Gus cockpit for a swept-back option, but I want the moose configuration's 
sturdiness.  

Let me know if you have one burning a hole in your bike parts stash.  

Erik 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

[Erik from Saint Paul]

*Update:*

Everything is sold, aside from the Crust Lightning Bolt frameset.

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> *Update:*
>
> Both frames are still available, but there has been some serious interest 
> in the Atlantis.
>
>
> Other parts for sale:
>
> Nitto mustache bars *sold*
>
> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): *sold*
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: *sold*
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): *sold*
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: *sold*
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: *sold*
>
> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: *sold*
>
> Sram Rival left double shifter: *sold*
>
> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: *sold*
>
> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: *pending*
>
> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:03:59 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:
>
>> Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place 
>> to list first.
>> Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 
>> from Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the 
>> water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold 
>> for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and 
>> nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but 
>> there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling 
>> around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front 
>> derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as 
>> often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in 
>> the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if 
>> interested.
>> Color: British racing green
>> Wheel size: 700c
>> Headset: Chris King
>> Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
>> Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link
>>
>> Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
>> Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll 
>> throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.
>>
>>
>> 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame 
>> is in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. 
>> Fits 650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine. 
>> Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.
>>
>>
>> Other parts for sale:
>>
>> Nitto mustache bars $20
>>
>> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15
>>
>> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20
>>
>> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30
>>
>> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20
>>
>> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20
>>
>> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10
>>
>> Sram Rival left double shifter: $25
>>
>> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50
>>
>> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30
>>
>> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>>
>> Shipping not included in list price of parts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

[Erik from Saint Paul]

*Update:*

Both frames are still available, but there has been some serious interest 
in the Atlantis.


Other parts for sale:

Nitto mustache bars *sold*

Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): *sold*

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: *sold*

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): *sold*

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: *sold*

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: *sold*

Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: *sold*

Sram Rival left double shifter: *sold*

Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: *sold*

Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: *pending*

Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30


On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:03:59 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place to 
> list first.
> Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 from 
> Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the 
> water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold 
> for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and 
> nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but 
> there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling 
> around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front 
> derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as 
> often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in 
> the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if 
> interested.
> Color: British racing green
> Wheel size: 700c
> Headset: Chris King
> Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
> Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link
>
> Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
> Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll 
> throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.
>
>
> 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame 
> is in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. 
> Fits 650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine. 
> Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.
>
>
> Other parts for sale:
>
> Nitto mustache bars $20
>
> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20
>
> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10
>
> Sram Rival left double shifter: $25
>
> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50
>
> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30
>
> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>
> Shipping not included in list price of parts.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

[Erik from Saint Paul]

Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place to 
list first.
Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 from 
Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the 
water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold 
for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and 
nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but 
there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling 
around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front 
derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as 
often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in 
the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if 
interested.
Color: British racing green
Wheel size: 700c
Headset: Chris King
Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link

Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll 
throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.


55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame is 
in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. Fits 
650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine. 
Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.


Other parts for sale:

Nitto mustache bars $20

Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20

Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10

Sram Rival left double shifter: $25

Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50

Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30

Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30

Shipping not included in list price of parts.




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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Rosco Platypus - $2000 obo

[Erik]

SOLD.  

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:33:16 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:

> I am putting my nearly new Rosco Platypus up for sale.  It's a lovely bike 
> that I put together back in December.  It has turned out that I rarely ride 
> it as it overlaps too much with my other bikes and deserves a home where it 
> will be put to better use!  I have it set up as a 2 speed right now without 
> shifters.  I can sell it that way or put a cassette, rear derailleur, and 
> front derailleur on it, if preferred.  I don't have any spare shifters, but 
> am happy to pick up some friction shifters and install them.  The current 
> build is as follows: 
>  
> 60cm frame - Purple
> 700c Velocity Dyad Wheelset w/Deore hubs and quick releases
> Soma Shikoro tires (48)
> Silver wide-low crankset 38/24
> KMC chain
> Paul Melvin tensioner or Acera derailleur 
> Shimano V-brakes, silver
> Shimano V-brake levers, silver
> Bosco Bullmoose bar
> Standard Riv seatpost
> Brooks saddle. Currently has Brooks Flyer, but could also swap out for a 
> C-17. 
> Gold water bottle cage and fork bolts.  
> VP Vise pedals
>
> If someone is interested in the bike and wants a front derailleur 
> installed, I am happy to do so.  I have a few around the shop that would 
> work.  I'd love a local (Bay Area, Sacramento, Chico, or points in between) 
> sale, but can also box and ship.  
>
> Send me a message if you are interested or have any questions!
>
> Erik 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks B17 repair

[Erik Wright]

Simon is the guy. I believe that's where Riv sends their saddles for 
repair, or at least they've shouted him out a couple times in the 
Blug/Blahg. One of his 2 shops is my LBS- it's in the same building that I 
have a pottery studio. One time I wheeled my bike into his shop for some 
reason and he noticed I was missing a rivet in my Selle Anatomica (how the 
heck did it just pop out??) and he hammered one in right then.

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:20:48 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> After years of good service, my Brooks B17 blew out the leather at the 
> nose. Is there a North American source for repair? Any idea what this costs?
>
> Doug Peterson
>

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[RBW] Re: Timeline for a Repaint (for a friend)

[Erik]

Rick painted two bikes (frame and fork) for me last year.  It was about a 
two-and-a-half month turnaround time from the day I dropped it off.  I also 
told him that I wasn't in any hurry.  And they are beautiful, of course!

Erik 

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 5:46:35 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> No, not for me, I love my paint! But my new RivSister friend acquired a 55 
> cm mermaid Platypus and she, like Heather (who dreamt of pumpkin) and me 
> (who coveted raspberry), can only be truly, sublimely happy if her Platy is 
> a lemon meringue yellow (with a bit of metallic). 
>
> She will take her frame to D but hasn’t actually been able to arrange 
> this yet. She was hoping it could be done rather quickly, but I suspect 
> there will be a wait. Can anyone here, who has had a Rick-Repaint, please 
> advise as to timeline? Are we talking weeks? Months? Several months? 
>
> We would MOST appreciate your input! 
> Thanks in advance,
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

[Erik]

It took me a minute, but if my training in linear perspective is correct: 
the steel cables closest to the camera and angling "up" to the left are the 
railing on the edge of the deck itself; the handrail and cables in the 
intermediate distance are stairs going down to the yard; the background is 
ice-covered grass.  Or so I think after studying the image.  It would be 
great photograph to show my drawing students to explain linear perspective 
for inclined surfaces!

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 8:02:32 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
Indeed, that deck photo is mesmerizing... I can't figure out which way is 
up. 



On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:43:55 AM UTC-5 jeffrey kane wrote:
That has to be the single most disorienting picture of a deck I've ever 
seen - I'd be sure to break a bone somewhere trying to step on it (!)

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

[Erik Wright]

I've been buying from Road Runner since 2015. I have a medium rolltop 
backpack, a couple tool rolls, a Jumbo Jammer for bikepacking, a Lil' Guy 
fanny pack, and maybe one more. Whenever I use my rolltop backpack (~3-4 
days a week) I think "damn, this thing is going to last my entire life." I 
love the Jumbo Jammer. I use my Lil Guy almost daily for 6 years now. The 
company's run by great people and I wholeheartedly recommend their bags.

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:32:44 PM UTC-5 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Own a wide selection of Road Runner bags and they have been my go to for 
> the last 5 years for sure.  Burrito bags, tool rolls, backpacks.  All great 
> stuff!
>
> Don't miss the Comrad lightweight packable backpack.  I bike everywhere 
> and travel everywhere with that packable bag.  Folds up and can fit into a 
> bottle cage when not needed.
>
> Happy to hear the feedback on their camera strap as I was eyeballing it 
> and currently roll with a Fuji X-T1.
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:48:18 PM UTC-6 Esteban wrote:
>
>> I'll come out of infrequently lurking to second the quality of LA-based 
>> Road Runner bags. I actually have their camera strap for my Fuji X-T2. 
>> Excellent - simple, easily adjusted to fit snug to the body (I wear it in 
>> the front). Great for smaller film cameras to keep it on Riv theme. Will 
>> make my "tried and liked" list for 2022 I usually post on IG... maybe even 
>> Best Material Good of the Year!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the pics are so 'inside on a rainy day' lame. I need to get 
>>> outside tomorrow and take better ones. It was cold! And rainy! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 1:59:39 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
>>>> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>>>>
>>>> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and 
>>>> pink on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
>>>> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

[Erik]

Ohh.  Yeah.  I talked to a machinist friend about that but got cold feet. 
 I was really worried about messing up something permanently.  I am clearly 
not adventurous enough! 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:00 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> I honed out my Bombadil with an automotive brake cylinder hone from 27.0 
> to 27.1+ before I took the plunge and got the reamer. Honing took a 
> loong time. It does have the advantage of not needing to go all the way 
> to 27.2 because most seatposts aren't a full 27.2.
>
> I did it so I could use a lugged Nitto seatpost - only available in 27.2. 
> Going to use the reamer on my 27.0 Guv'nor for the same reason.
>
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've thought about getting my 27.0 Hunq reamed to 27.2 for exactly this 
>> reason.  Maybe I should just do it already.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:50:56 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Solution to putting 27.2 seat post into 26.8 seat tube:
>>>
>>> [image: Seat Tube Reamer s.jpg]
>>>
>>> Every 26.8 and 27.2 (and 27.0) ID seat tube that I have ever seen were 
>>> all the same 28.6 OD, so if you ride 27.2 droppers, reaming a 26.8 ID out 
>>> to 27.2 shouldn't bother you. You are only reducing the thickness by 0.008" 
>>> on the inside of the tube.
>>>
>>> Laing
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

[Erik]

1x11 works perfectly.  I had to get a fairly wide BB spindle to keep the 
chain off of the tire in the smallest gear, but it works beautifully.  I 
think I ended up running a 122.5 BB.The longer chain stays actually 
help mellow out the chain angle on the highest and lowest gears.  I’ve done 
this on my Atlantis in the past as well and have had no problems.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 5:49:58 AM UTC-7 Richard Rose wrote:

> Interesting also that you are running 1 x 11? I guess I thought you needed 
> a boost frame for that? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

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Not only do I have a quick release, I picked up an old Hite-Rite to go with 
it!  I salvaged the quick release from an old Bridgestone that’s been in my 
shed for a long time.  It’s certainly an option, but I did have problems 
with the post slipping.  Given that I’m not out charging around, stopping 
to set the seat height isn’t that onerous a task.  I have occasionally 
stopped and dropped the saddle with a hex key for longer descents.  Maybe 
I’m just overthinking the dropper post thing and need to embrace the quick 
release! 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 5:16:13 AM UTC-7 mkernan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey Erik,   Sweet looking Gus!In reading your post it seems like your 
> missing a dropper option,   Have you considered putting on a quick release 
> at the seatpost binder bolt?   You said you’ve been riding many iterations 
> of MTBs since the 80s so I’m sure you’ve had a bike with one before.I 
> put one on my Atlantis and it’s great for dropping the seat post tool- free 
> when I want to get back a little.I think Riv might sell something on 
> their site.   It’s no dropper but it is helpful in some situations.   
>  -Mike  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

[Erik]

I’ve been running my Gus as my primary mountain bike for about six months 
now and it does everything I want it to do and goes anywhere I want to go. 
 Some background: mountain biking has been my primary form of biking since 
my teen years in the late 80s.  I started on rigid bikes, moved to front 
suspension by the mid-nineties, but didn’t make the jump to full squish for 
another ten years.  I recently sold off my last full suspension bike (Salsa 
Horsethief) and used the proceeds to finance the Gus.  I turned 50 this 
year and have realized that at this point in life that I don’t ride hard 
enough to warrant the big suspension beasts.  I like to meander more than 
charge these days and am happy to leave the in-air antics to the fitter 
and/or younger. 

On the Gus: I can ride it on any trail I rode on my FS bikes.  No problem. 
 It’s a bit slower downhill, but even better on climbs.  I run a large 
knobby 2.6 up front and a 2.5 in the back, tubeless.  The squish of the big 
tires makes all the difference and prevents too much bone and teeth 
rattling.  I love the stability.  Love the handling, though it does have a 
bit of front wheel flop that took some getting used to.  It climbs like a 
beast and I love the comments from the hardcore riders out on the trails. 
 I regularly ride it on the nasty, rocky, rutted trails at Upper Bidwell 
Park in Chico, CA, often intermingling with the full-squish set on climbs 
but politely letting them go first on downhills. The Paul Motolites work 
perfectly and I don’t miss discs at all.  I have figured out how to set up 
these brakes to get the perfect stopping power and modulation and have 
never had any problems with controlling my bike.  

The ONLY thing I wish were different: I want a 27.2 seatpost clamp so I can 
run a dropper.  I’m with Jason on this one.  I would like the option to 
move the seat down for more technical descents where I need to lower my 
mass toward the back wheel so I don’t go over the front.  Without a 
dropper, there are some really steep, technical descents on my regular 
rides that I walk as I can’t quite get the positioning I want.

Will posted some photos of my bike a while 
back: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/eriks-large-gus

It’s possible I’ll pick up another mountain bike at some point, perhaps one 
with just front suspension, but that’s more about my problem with buying 
bikes then it is about needing it for riding my local trails.  :-)

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[RBW] FS: Baggins handlebar bag

[Erik Wright]

Howdy,

Selling this Baggins bag (Photos 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/o1HeZoR9RJWxYjnUA>). I can probably shove it in 
a medium flat rate box, so let's say $65 shipped.

Erik, Philly

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno substitute for a while...

[Erik Wright]

Oh man, and that lavender color is amazing. Here's a link 
<https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/single-speed-break-away-lightning-bolt>
 
for anyone interested. Can't wait to see it built up, Bill!

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 1:14:16 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I had been searching for quite a while for a single speed that enabled 
> some derailer-less gear flexibility.  On one hand I searched for a 58cm 
> Quickbeam or SimpleONE.  On the other hand I was/am waiting on the 
> RoadUNO.  I was/am a huge fan of Rivendells rear dropouts with the angle 
> that allows a significant gear change while maintaining brake adjustment.  
>
> In an absolutely perfect world, my Size Large singlespeed would also have 
> been 650B (for fat tires and no TCO).  While I'm sitting here in 
> fantasy-land, I also would have waved my magic wand to have the bike be 
> belt-compatible, and would allow brakes, but have a discreet way to NOT run 
> brakes.  
>
> Over the last 18 months or so, I've been working with placeholders for 
> these things.  I bought a Crust Michigan Man right when they were released 
> and set it up as a strictly 1-speed fixie in my office in Wayne County, 
> Michigan.  Will at Riv also has a Michigan Man.  I also managed to acquire 
> a 58cm Quickbeam, and that is now in my garage as a 8-speed single speed.  
> I slowly acquired some of the parts for a 650B custom, including a pair of 
> Rivendell dropouts.  I even had preliminary conversations with a local 
> builder, and have a tentative spot on his enormous waiting list.  
>
> Then, totally by surprise, a new contender appeared.  Crust released a new 
> variant of their single speed Lightning Bolt.  It's 650B, with clearance 
> for 48mm tires and contemporary Randonneur geometry.  It's belt-compatible 
> and has removable cantilever posts and cable guides.  It's almost exactly 
> what my custom would have been except for the Riv-style ends.  
>
> It's 2022, and the lesson we've all learned is that if the thing you want 
> is available, you buy it, because it may never be available again.  So, I 
> went ahead and bought it, and the frame should arrive today.  I'm pretty 
> excited.  
>
> Whether or not my new Crust will get replaced by a RoadUNO next year 
> remains to be seen.  Will's email updates (plus simple geometry) make it 
> pretty clear to me that the RoadUNO will not have Riv ends.  It'll have 
> some other svelte track ends, so easy gear changes with a rear brake won't 
> be part of the feature list, it seems.  I'm still paying very close 
> attention, but the itch is getting scratched today.  
>
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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

[Erik]

I thought the reach wasn’t too bad when I ran drops, but I had them set up 
on a 50mm and then 30mm stem and had them up pretty high.  You can see the 
drops with yellow tape in my first post.  I changed them out because I got 
into an accident the broke my hand and wanted a new set up with different 
hand positions and wanted the feeling of my hand being protected.  The 
Jones H-loop was perfect for that purpose as I could hold the close side of 
the loop and my hand was behind the outer loop reducing the chance I was 
going to smack my hand on something.  Or have another rider run into me 
again and break it.  The drops would not have worked for my desired riding 
position with a longer stem.  

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:11:11 AM UTC-7 Kevin wrote:

> I've gone through enough cockpits (8?) to wonder if I should just move on 
> from the bike. Would be interested to see/hear if people have had success 
> with drop bars on the newer Appaloosas. I've got mine to where the 
> measurements suggest they should be comfortable and still it feels a little 
> long.

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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Erik Wright]

I'm looking at getting a set of these wheels in 700c for my Sam Hillborne, 
but they're 130mm spacing without the ability to add spacers and re-dish 
the wheel. The Hillborne's spacing is 135mm.

I've put 130mm wheels in the Hillborne before and just tightened down the 
QR, but only for a short period of time. Any downsides to this as a long 
term solution with this wheelset? I use friction shifting, so I don't have 
to worry much about slight derailleur alignment issues.

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:06:05 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Buy the rims and have a good wheelbuilder build them up for you!  I've got 
> a Crust bike, and I'm thinking I'll buy some 700c rims and rebuild my 
> wheelset.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>
>> BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
>> positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.
>>
>> He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
>> another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards 
>>> getting a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true 
>>> them up early.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
>>>> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got 
>>>> them. 
>>>> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
>>>> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
>>>> tubeless with no problems either. 
>>>> Lance
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
>>>>> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to 
>>>>> mention 
>>>>> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
>>>>> wheelset a bunch.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite 
>>>>>> a bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on another 
>>>>>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
>>>>>> 100 miles on them. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
>>>>>>> they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
>>>>>>> size, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put 
>>>>>>>> them through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel (nothing 
>>>>>>>> super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I ride my 
>>>>>>>> bikes 
>>>>>>>> kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque efforts. 
>>>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>>>> never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
>>>>>>>> suspension 
>>>>>>>> bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out of true 
>>>>>>>> rather 
>>>>>>>> quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a little touch 
>>>>>>>> true 
>>>>>>>> to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles later), they 
>>>>>>>> went 
>>>>>>>> out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack of experience 
>>>&g

[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Erik]

Me too!  That is one tricked-out Clem.  I wish it were a little smaller.  

Erik 

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:47:43 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love the slammed look of the grilver Clem. 

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[RBW] Re: Grilver Close-up Photos Request

[Erik]

Thank you, both!  The photos are helpful.  

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:39:36 AM UTC-7 Erik Wright wrote:

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[RBW] Grilver Close-up Photos Request

[Erik]

Afternoon Folks,  

I'm preparing a Riv for new paint job and am interested in trying to get 
the something similar to the "grilver" that was used on the old Clems and 
Roadini's until recently.  I realize that the "grilver" term was also used 
for an older color that was less metallic and more greenish in addition to 
the more recent "grilver" used on the Roadinis, Frank Jones, etc that is a 
dark metallic gray.   

Does anyone have photos posted online showing a close up of their grilver 
Clem or Roadini?  Or would be willing to take and post some high quality 
close up shots? I have some photos, but nothing hi-res enough to get an 
idea of the metallic sheen or grain size for the flakes.  I want to be able 
to explain it accurately to the painter to get as close a match as 
possible.  I know the color is a bit less grainy than standard flaked metal 
colors. I remember it being a gorgeous crystalline graphite color and sheen 
when I saw a Roadini in person, but would love a good reference photo.   

Or if you've had a paint job done with this color and know the closest 
Dupont color code, that would be swell as well.   

Thanks!

Erik  

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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik Shearer]

Correction: the Paul stem is 35mm. It’s the perfect length for my bars. I ran 
the 30mm discord with the same bars on my Susie.  Again, this was the perfect 
length for the bars and how I am using the hillibikes. 

Erik

> On Jun 30, 2022, at 10:40 AM, TP H  wrote:
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> Thanks, loving all these builds. For the folks running flat bars, what’s 
> your stem extension length?
> 
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 6:42:35 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>> Beautiful parts choice and build, and yeah, these hillibikes need short 
>> stems to run flat bars. They are lng.
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik Shearer]

I’m running Tumbleweed Persuader bars on my Gus and have a 30mm Paul Boxcar.  
Nice and short. 

> On Jun 30, 2022, at 10:40 AM, TP H  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, loving all these builds. For the folks running flat bars, what’s 
> your stem extension length?
> 
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 6:42:35 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>> Beautiful parts choice and build, and yeah, these hillibikes need short 
>> stems to run flat bars. They are lng.
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[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Willsen: First Impressions

[Erik]

Hey Chris, 

Those are just the regular, alloy Persuaders.  I think it might be the 
photos.  They definitely don't have any forward sweep.  I do keep them 
closer to level so they may look like they have more rise, but otherwise 
just the regular bars.  

On the seatpost: I don't have good digital calipers to measure, 
unfortunately.  And I'm not sure if it was the post or the tube.  With a 
working bolt in the binder, it just rotated, the only reason it was 
lowering into the tube was that I had cranked down with too much torque on 
the bolt when I was trying to get it stop rotating.  I was on the side of 
the trail and got a bit over-enthusiastic!  The post is used...I had it on 
my Susie and on my Atlantis before that.  I've had this issue a couple of 
times over the years and always chalked it up to being a bigger rider.  But 
the knurling of the post fixed it.  I did try a 27.2 seat post just to see 
if the seat tube was the wrong diameter but it wasn't even close to 
fitting.  So if the seat tube is too large, it's only by a tiny, tiny 
amount.  

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 7:14:29 AM UTC-7 CJ wrote:

> Erik,
>
> Awesome build, and beautiful bike! Your Tumbleweed Persuader bar looks 
> different than the one I have, do you have it rolled forward or something? 
> It seems like it has some forward sweep. Did you or Riv measure your 
> seatpost to see if it's undersized? Or is the seat tube opening oversized? 
> It's really unusual that you'd have to knurl the seatpost to get it not to 
> slip.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:00:32 AM UTC-4 Erik wrote:
>
>> After a long wait, I was finally able to pick up my new Gus Boots Willsen 
>> frame from Riv headquarters this past week.  As I've mentioned here before, 
>> I purchased a large Susie from a list member last year knowing that I was 
>> pushing the intended weight envelope.  The bike was beautiful, but I 
>> decided that I would try to pick up a Gus for the stouter tubing and 11/8 
>> steering tube.  I wanted to be able to load the thing up and take it on 
>> multi-day camping trips as well as tackle the roughest trails in my neck of 
>> the woods.   
>>
>> I have been a mountain biker for most of my life,  since I started riding 
>> back in the late 80s, and wanted a bike to replace what I knew would be my 
>> last full-suspension beast, a lovely Salsa Horsethief.  I sold the Salsa 
>> last year after deciding that I was starting to prefer the simplicity and 
>> fun of a rigid bike.  I had my Atlantis set up as a mountain-ish / 
>> hillibike with 2.2 Trail King tires and Bullmoose bars.  I was riding that 
>> bike on most of my local trails but wanted a bike that could handle much 
>> larger tires and was more purpose-built for heavier off-road duty. 
>>
>> First Impression: so worth the wait!  I've got the bike set up with my 
>> dream build, a mix of White Industries hubs/ Cliffhanger wheels built by 
>> Rich, Paul Motolite brakes and Box Car stem, White Industries 1x crank set, 
>> Garbaruk 11-50t cassette, Tumbleweed Persuader bars, Terravail 2.5 tires, 
>> and more.  I've taken the bike out for a couple of rides since I completed 
>> the build on Saturday and am finding it perfectly suited to the sort of 
>> riding I lean toward.  
>>
>> I live in the Napa Valley and took it out to Moore Creek Park near St. 
>> Helena on Sunday.  The trails in the lower part of the park are newer, with 
>> some really smooth sections, and are beautifully carved into the topography 
>> of the hills.  There's even a short flow trail section.  The Gus was really 
>> happy on all of this terrain.  I don't do jumps anymore, but the banked 
>> turns and rollers on the flow trail were a blast on the bike!  Despite the 
>> size and length of the bike, it handled really nicely on all of the 
>> singletrack. Maybe not as snappy as some of my old aggressive geometry 
>> mountain bikes, but consistent with a 29" wheeled bike.  It felt smooth and 
>> stable.  I think some of this is down to the wheelbase and some to the 
>> high-ish trail steering.  Whatever the case, it's beautifully balanced and 
>> rides like water flowing downstream.  Unfortunately, I had a problem with 
>> my seat post not wanting to stay put. In my haste to get it fixed on the 
>> trailside, I broke the seat post binder bolt and had to finish out the ride 
>> not using my seat.  Great leg exercise, but not a good way to test out the 
>> handling characteristics of the bike.  :)
>>
>> This evening I took it out to Skyline Park in Napa where they held World 
>> Cup races back in the 90s and single speed world championships more 
>> recently.  I remember watch

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

Just the seat post, not the seat tube.  

On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 10:45:50 AM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:

> This is the first I'm hearing that you can have tubes knurled on the 
> aftermarket... how did they do it?
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 8:16:15 AM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>
>> Knurling the seat post at the collar and about three inches down the 
>> insertion into the seat tube.  Worked like a charm.  I've had this done on 
>> a bike before when I was having a problem with slipping.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 5:31:59 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> What was the fix for the slipping seat post?
>>>
>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Erik's new Gus. Questions.

[Erik]

Well, that sand looks brutal!  As you noted, the max listed tire size on 
the Gus or Susie is 2.8, but I feel like that would be pushing it for a 
couple of reasons.  I'm running 29" x 2.5 Terravail Ehlines. They measure 
about 62mm without any weight on them on Cliffhanger rims, tubeless.  They 
have plenty of clearance on the sides (about 12mm on the front, a little 
less in the rear). I measured the distance between the inside of the 
chainstays and it looks like it's right about 80mm (I wasn't measuring with 
calipers!), so I don't think you could fit 3" tires (about 76mm) with any 
meaningful room to spare.  The forks have a little more clearance so maybe 
a slightly larger front tire would be possible.

The bigger issue that I would see with trying to get even larger tires on 
the back is the bottom bracket width necessary to keep the chain off of the 
tire.  It would push the chainline out pretty far.  It's a 73mm shell and 
I'm running a 122 IRD bottom bracket with spacers.  Even with that and a 
chainline that is wy outboard, the chain runs pretty close to the tire 
in the 50t gear in the back.  I think that if I sized up even to the 2.8 I 
might have to switch up to a 127 BB, pushing the chainline out even 
further.  You almost need Boost spacing at that point to push the cassette 
further out in line with the front chainring.  Otherwise the front 
chainring is starting to line up with the smallest cog which makes for a 
terrible chainline.  That's my amateur opinion at any rate!  I'm sure 
someone on here has tried it or knows this better than I do. 

Otherwise, even with "just" 2.5 inch tires it's handled the terrain just 
fine and was easy to keep on track on multiple surfaces, including rocky 
sections and sections with lots of roots and loose gravel.  It was equally 
fine with all of it.  Sand, however, is another matter.  We don't have much 
of that on the trails in my area so I can't really speak to it.

I may try out a larger front tire soon and will happily report back.  I 
don't think I'm going to try a larger rear tire for the reasons above re: 
chainline.  

And thanks for the nod on the build!  Happy with all the shiny bits.  

Erik  

>
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

Knurling the seat post at the collar and about three inches down the 
insertion into the seat tube.  Worked like a charm.  I've had this done on 
a bike before when I was having a problem with slipping.  

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 5:31:59 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> What was the fix for the slipping seat post?
>
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

Thank you!  My boy and I stopped by the shop today in Walnut Creek with the 
Gus in tow.  Will helped me troubleshoot a slipping seat post and he took 
it for a spin around the building.  We discussed the build and he asked to 
take photos.  That was a huge compliment!  I love how friendly and nice all 
of the staff are any time I stop by.  It makes me so happy to support their 
company.  

And the bikes aren't too bad, either.  I'll post up a ride report in a bit 
from my foray into the hills this evening.  

Erik 

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 6:49:21 PM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Some more really poppin' snaps  of Erik's bike up on Grant's Blahg: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/eriks-large-gus
>
> Amazing build Erik! It's really revived my excitement for the medium, 
> orange Gus frame I have coming.
>
> Paul in AR
>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

I do plan to do some touring with mine.  That's the primary reason I sold 
my Susie and purchased the Gus.  I'm near the recommended weight borderline 
on the Susie and wanted to be able to add as much weight as I wanted.  I 
have a full complement of bags and racks.  The plan is to run the 
Tumbleweed T-rack to support some large saddlebags (Zeitgeist and/or a 
large Sackville) and to hold some RandiJo Big M.U.T. bags on the Manything 
racks I just ordered.  I love that the Tumbleweed rack has the three bolt 
attachments for the cargo cages.  I also have a GREAT frame bag that was 
custom made to fit a large Susie frame and will live on the Gus.  I have a 
front rack, too, but think I can get everything I need for a couple of 
nights in the woods with just the rear rack bags, frame bag, and a smallish 
handlebar bag. I don't like too much weight on the front on the trail.

Hoping we get an update soon.  I'll be done with my spring semester 
teaching in three weeks and have a couple of weeks off in late May / early 
June before summer school starts.  I'd love to spend all of it riding the 
new bike!

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:20:42 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wally, sounds like what my Susie is going to be! The Tumbleweed rack 
> should work out perfect! I have mounted one to a standard rear spaced bike 
> as well as a new boost rear. They are a great rack. I just loaned mine to 
> my cousin for the Colorado trail this summer or I’d be using it. Still 
> might if he gives it back! I had the shorter version and it cleared 29x3 on 
> a few different bikes so that is probably the size to go for. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:06:57 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Valerie, that is exciting but definitely doesn’t help the wait! Haha. 
>>
>> My Susie will be replacing my current bike. I only build one at a time in 
>> hopes to find one that I really enjoy more than any other. I have a feeling 
>> the Susie will be a keeper though. I have a Pass and Stow rack for the 
>> front that I hope plays nice with the steering. I do typically prefer a 
>> front load and just a saddle bag out back when needed. 
>>
>> I’ve been looking at the Erlen rack from Ocean Air Cycles or a Nitto R-14 
>> or bag support for the rear. I have a field tan Fab’s chest on the way and 
>> I almost just went for the Pec Deck “rack”, we’ll see. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:52:08 AM UTC-7 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> *Is anyone planning to tour with theirs?*
>>> Yep, my Gus will be a commuter/grocery-getter/bikepacker ride -the 
>>> guS-UV.   I'm planning on Tumbleweed racks for it. The TW racks are 
>>> designed around modern wider hubs/frames, but I think it'll squeeze in OK 
>>> to mount on a Gus.  I've seen a pic of a T-tack on a Gus, just need to find 
>>> it again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:51:44 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to add to your excitement, I have a Gus demo purchased complete 
>>>> from Riv from the first round and I love it.  In my garage, it looks so 
>>>> huge and stout that it can lead me to doubt its role in my life. But then 
>>>> I 
>>>> ride it and it is such a fun bike to ride. It is surprisingly comfortable 
>>>> and pleasant going uphill and truly fantastic -stable, intuitive, flowy - 
>>>> going downhill, paved or not. There is one steep downhill where my other 
>>>> bikes leave me feeling somewhat apprehensive about going too fast but I 
>>>> can 
>>>> sail down it confidently on the Gus.  It has expanded my comfort zone. I 
>>>> find myself thinking up routes to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone planning to tour with theirs? I wonder which racks would fit 
>>>> well on it. 
>>>>
>>>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very excited to see these builds come together! I was also hoping for 
>>>>> an update just to know they got to port at least. But I guess we should 
>>>>> have an update by the end of he week, maybe… I’m moving in 5 weeks and I 
>>>>> was hoping to get a nice couple night camp trip in with it before then! 
>>>>> Getting a bit close though so we’ll see. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:16 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's one of the bars I picked up as a possibility for the Gus.  I 
>>>>>> have the shifters and levers on it and instal

[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

That's one of the bars I picked up as a possibility for the Gus.  I have 
the shifters and levers on it and installed it on the Paul Boxcar stem I 
picked up.  It's a really beautiful bar.  But I'll have to wait and see 
which bar wins out.  

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 7:32:46 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

>
> I had a thread about handlebar choice a few months ago, then Rivendell 
> without any fanfare slipped a new Nitto bar into their lineup which 
> basically filled all of my criteria. The new Bull bar seems to have gone 
> under the radar, (it didn't immediately sell out) and is going to be 
> perfect for my slightly too big XL Susie! I am going to wait until I have 
> the bike in front of me to try all the options and see which one wins.
> I am excited to see everyone else's builds, Some nice sounding parts lists 
> going on here.
> Was hoping for an update in today's email too and was a little 
> disappointed.
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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Erik]

I had a complete build for my new Gus from a Susie that I sold in December. 
 The plan had been to simply buy a new stem but leave everything else as 
is:  WI/Cliffhanger wheel set from Rich, WI 1x cranks, Tumbleweed Persuader 
bars, Paul Motolite brakes and levers, etc.  But because I've had so much 
time to think about it, I've ended up with three bar options, a new 
Garbaruk 11-50 cassette and pulley kit, new shifters, a LOT of headset 
spacers, stem caps, bar tape color options, grips, etc.  It's going to be a 
beautiful build and I can't wait to get started.  

I'm sure there will be a lot of pictures once it's all set up.  Hoping that 
the ship made it on schedule!   

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:54:45 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have been wanting to post for weeks asking about builds to come. 
> Hopefully they make it to port today and we will be seeing them soon! I had 
> a pretty mellow Riv style build planned. While waiting, I’ve collected some 
> other options as well. Can’t wait to put it together! 
> I’m sure everyone else waiting for one is as excited as I am. I look 
> forward to seeing some great builds!
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[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebars, Stems, and a Couple of Other Things

[Erik]

Last update and then I'll let this post fade into oblivion.  Thank you 
everyone for the inquiries and purchases! 

>
>> *Available:*
>>>
>> Moustache - $50 - older with some signs of wear.  Not an albastache. 
>>>  25.4 clamp size
>>> Jones H-Bar - $50 - installed and ridden a couple of times.  31.8 clamp 
>>> size. One scratch from grip removal. Not a loop bar!
>>>
>>> Photos Here - https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99
>>>
>>> Please send me a direct message if you are interested in any of the 
>>> above.  Cash preferred in person, but can also take PayPal.  PayPal friends 
>>> and family for online transactions. Let me know your ZIP if you would like 
>>> something shipped.  It may take a day to get a cost for shipping handlebars 
>>> as package sizes can be tricky.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebars, Stems, and a Couple of Other Things

[Erik]

Another update to remove everything that has been sold.  The Jones H-Bar 
and Moustache have not had any love/inquiries.  Everything else on the list 
has at least one person considering purchase.  I will update once funds 
have changed hands.  

>
> *Available:*
>>
> Moustache - $50 - older with some signs of wear.  Not an albastache.  25.4 
>> clamp size
>> Jones H-Bar - $50 - installed and ridden a couple of times.  31.8 clamp 
>> size. One scratch from grip removal. Not a loop bar!
>>
>> *Spoken for but Not Yet Sold - *If you've asked about one of these but 
>> haven't heard back from me, I'll get in touch once I know for certain that 
>> it is either sold or available.  There are multiple interested parties for 
>> each.   
>> Tumbleweed Persuader - $100 new, never installed.  Allloy.
>> Discord Fingerling - $100. Used with some wear.  31.8 clamp size, 50mm 
>> reach.  Clear.  
>>
> Sackville Saddlesack Small - $50 Royal Blue
>>
>>
>> Photos Here - https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99
>>
>> Please send me a direct message if you are interested in any of the 
>> above.  Cash preferred in person, but can also take PayPal.  PayPal friends 
>> and family for online transactions. Let me know your ZIP if you would like 
>> something shipped.  It may take a day to get a cost for shipping handlebars 
>> as package sizes can be tricky.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: SOLD: - Wheelsets: 700c Cliffhangers and 650b Atlas

[Erik]

Both wheelsets are sold/spoken for.  Thank you everyone for the inquiries.  

Erik 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Wheelsets: 700c Cliffhangers and 650b Atlas

[Erik Shearer]

You got it!  Sorry for the delay. Your message went to my spam folder for some 
reason. 

Erik

> On Apr 14, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Alex K  wrote:
> 
> pm'd.  I'll take the 650s
> 
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:41:31 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>> I have two wheelsets up for sale: 
>> 
>> Set #1: Velocity Cliffhangers/Shimano Deore LX - 700c - 32h front and rear.  
>> Silver.  Shimano freehub. Excellent condition.  Set up for and ridden 
>> tubeless.  $350
>> 
>> Set #2: Velocity Atlas/Shimano XT - 650b - 32h front/36h rear.  Silver.  
>> Shimano freehub. Built by Rich (Hands On Wheels) at Rivendell.  $350
>> 
>> I prefer an in-person sale, but can discuss shipping.  The prices above do 
>> not include shipping.   I'm in the SF north bay/Napa area and am happy to 
>> meet within a reasonable (50 miles +/-) distance.  Cash or PayPal friends 
>> and family, please.  
>> 
>> Here are some photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99
>> 
>> Inquiries by direct message, please.  
>> 
>> Erik 
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[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebars, Stems, and a Couple of Other Things

[Erik]

Updated list of what is still available.  Sales pending on a few other 
items, but will wait to remove them until sales are finalized.  


>
> *Handlebars:*
> Choco - $65 - Installed, ridden, and shows signs of wear
>
> Moustache - $50 - older with some signs of wear.  Not an albastache.  25.4 
> clamp size
> Jones H-Bar - $50 - installed and ridden a couple of times.  31.8 clamp 
> size. One scratch from grip removal. Not a loop bar!
> Tumbleweed Persuader - $100 new, never installed.  Allloy.
>
> *Stems:*
> Tallux - $50.  Used with some wear from adjusting height.  11cm.  25.4 
> clamp. 
> Discord Fingerling - $100. Used with some wear.  31.8 clamp size, 50mm 
> reach.  Clear.  
>
> *Other:*
>
> Sackville Saddlesack Small - $50 Royal Blue
>
>
> Photos Here - https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99
>
> Please send me a direct message if you are interested in any of the above. 
>  Cash preferred in person, but can also take PayPal.  PayPal friends and 
> family for online transactions. Let me know your ZIP if you would like 
> something shipped.  It may take a day to get a cost for shipping handlebars 
> as package sizes can be tricky.  
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS - Wheelsets: 700c Cliffhangers and 650b Atlas

[Erik]

I have two wheelsets up for sale: 

Set #1: Velocity Cliffhangers/Shimano Deore LX - 700c - 32h front and rear. 
 Silver.  Shimano freehub. Excellent condition.  Set up for and ridden 
tubeless.  $350

Set #2: Velocity Atlas/Shimano XT - 650b - 32h front/36h rear.  Silver. 
 Shimano freehub. Built by Rich (Hands On Wheels) at Rivendell.  $350

I prefer an in-person sale, but can discuss shipping.  The prices above do 
not include shipping.   I'm in the SF north bay/Napa area and am happy to 
meet within a reasonable (50 miles +/-) distance.  Cash or PayPal friends 
and family, please.  

Here are some photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99

Inquiries by direct message, please.  

Erik 

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[RBW] FS - Handlebars, Stems, and a Couple of Other Things

[Erik]

Now that I've finally landed on my handlebar set-ups for the foreseeable 
future, I'm moving the other handlebars along to new homes.   And a few 
other goodies from my stash that have started gathering dust.   

I'm in the north SF bay / Napa area and am happy to meet up for in-person 
sales.  I can also ship to you.  The following prices do not include 
shipping.   

*Handlebars:*
Choco - $65 - Installed, ridden, and shows signs of wear
Billie - $85 - Nearly new.  Installed and ridden once.  
Moustache - $50 - older with some signs of wear.  Not an albastache.  25.4 
clamp size
Jones H-Bar - $50 - installed and ridden a couple of times.  31.8 clamp 
size. One scratch from grip removal. Not a loop bar!
Tumbleweed Persuader - $100 new, never installed.  Allloy.

*Stems:*
Tallux - $50.  Used with some wear from adjusting height.  11cm.  25.4 
clamp. 
Discord Fingerling - $100. Used with some wear.  31.8 clamp size, 50mm 
reach.  Clear.  

*Other:*
Nitto Mark's Rack - $100 w/ one set of struts and diving board. 
Sackville Saddlesack Small - $50 Royal Blue
MKS Monarch Pedals - $50 Used.  Silver. 

Photos Here - https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8S1DW7455374VH99

Please send me a direct message if you are interested in any of the above. 
 Cash preferred in person, but can also take PayPal.  PayPal friends and 
family for online transactions. Let me know your ZIP if you would like 
something shipped.  It may take a day to get a cost for shipping handlebars 
as package sizes can be tricky.  

Let me know if you have any questions!

Erik 


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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Erik]

Hi All, 

I've removed my posts out of respect for the primary purpose of the list. 
 Feel free to reach out directly if anyone wants to explore the topic 
further!  

Erik 

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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

[Erik Wright]

IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.

Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
hand position.

Erik, Philly

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer depends 
> on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in which 
> case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a shorter 
> stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional sweptback my 
> suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  But it's 
> really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want to 
>> convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Erik]

The best equivalent to that would be the book that introduced a lot of 
people to Soto Zen, "Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind" a collection of talks by 
Shunryu Suzuki-roshi, the founder of the San Francisco Zen Center.  The 
book is a transcription of lectures and talks he gave at the Zen Center 
over the years and starts with the line, "In the beginner's mind there are 
many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few."  

A few others I would recommend for their direct style and plain talk:
- "What is Zen" by Norman Fischer and Susan Moon. Just published a few 
years ago, but a great introduction.  And Norman Fischer is a fantastic 
writer and teacher.  
-"No Beginning, No End" by my teacher, Kwong-roshi.  He was part of the 
original group of students at SF Zen Center. The book is a great reflection 
of his personality.  I can see him rolling his eyes at me for writing these 
lengthy responses about Zen.  He frequently chides me for living too much 
in my head.  :)

If you want to hear / watch a talk, I always like to recommend this one 
because it was written for a lay audience and connects the principles of 
Zen with ordinary life.  It's Zoketsu Norman Fischer giving the graduation 
speech at Stanford in 2014.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9p__BHHDs

And now that I'm completely off the topic of bikes, I'll stop before my 
posts get pulled!
  

On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 6:48:17 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm learning so much here - is there an equivalent of Grant's "Just Ride" 
> for Zen?
>
> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 2:08:51 AM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> What a pleasure it was to read of your experience, Erik! Much of what you 
>> wrote resonates deeply with me. Perhaps this is because we share something 
>> of a history with San Francisco Zen Center and a particular approach to 
>> both Zen and riding a bike. 
>>
>> My formative experiences with Zen occurred when I lived in the City in 
>> the late 80s/early 90s and sat at the Zen center regularly during this 
>> time. This and S.Suzuki's 'beginner's mind' approach to Zen flavored my 
>> view of the practice as a way to "engage with every activity with the same 
>> energy as you do your sitting". I was a runner at the time, and my early 
>> morning runs to the Zen center from my 16th/Guerrero place and home again 
>> were a way to extend the practice beyond the zendo.
>>
>> Your description of your ride today puts into words so clearly my own 
>> experiences on rides that challenge me, and how I return to my breathing as 
>> a method of focusing on the ways in which my body reacts to a tough hill, 
>> frozen hands, thirst, or fatigue. There always seems to be another pedal 
>> stroke at the bottom of that gaze. And, when the riding is easy, as I 
>> mentioned above, breathing is a wonderful way to bring my attention to the 
>> moment where brendanoid's 'constant birdsong' echos across Phillip's 
>> 'gritty industrial streets' as my wheels spin effortlessly. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2022 at 4:07:55 PM UTC+9 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting thread.  I've been involved with Zen practice for a long 
>>> time.  I'm fortunate to live the greater Bay Area, one of the places where 
>>> Soto Zen first took root in America back in the 1950s and 60s as the Beat 
>>> generation started attending services at local Japanese temples in pursuit 
>>> of new experiences.  Between San Francisco Zen Center and all of the other 
>>> temples and practices centers that branched off over the years around here, 
>>> we have a lot of teachers and places to practice.  I've been a student at 
>>> Sonoma Mountain Zen Center for many years now and have spent a lot of time 
>>> sitting on a cushion and staring at the wall inside the zendo.
>>>
>>> A fundamental concept in Zen practice is that there is no distinction 
>>> between sitting (zazen) and other activities. Zazen is just one way to 
>>> bring your attention to the present moment.  A big part of the practice is 
>>> that you approach and engage with every activity with the same energy as 
>>> you do your sitting practice and that whatever you are doing should be done 
>>> fully and completely.  When you sit, you sit.  When you walk, you walk. 
>>>  When you rake, you rake, When you ride a bike, you ride a bike.   Even 
>>> during intensive training periods, we intersperse zazen with walking 
>>> meditation, work practice, cooking, cleaning, meals, and other tasks. 
>>>  Sitting practice is only one part of a larger whole and the constant is 
>

[RBW] Re: "Riding-a-bicycle Zen"

[Erik]

An interesting thread.  I've been involved with Zen practice for a long 
time.  I'm fortunate to live the greater Bay Area, one of the places where 
Soto Zen first took root in America back in the 1950s and 60s as the Beat 
generation started attending services at local Japanese temples in pursuit 
of new experiences.  Between San Francisco Zen Center and all of the other 
temples and practices centers that branched off over the years around here, 
we have a lot of teachers and places to practice.  I've been a student at 
Sonoma Mountain Zen Center for many years now and have spent a lot of time 
sitting on a cushion and staring at the wall inside the zendo.

A fundamental concept in Zen practice is that there is no distinction 
between sitting (zazen) and other activities. Zazen is just one way to 
bring your attention to the present moment.  A big part of the practice is 
that you approach and engage with every activity with the same energy as 
you do your sitting practice and that whatever you are doing should be done 
fully and completely.  When you sit, you sit.  When you walk, you walk. 
 When you rake, you rake, When you ride a bike, you ride a bike.   Even 
during intensive training periods, we intersperse zazen with walking 
meditation, work practice, cooking, cleaning, meals, and other tasks. 
 Sitting practice is only one part of a larger whole and the constant is 
the act of paying attention to whatever is in front of you at that moment. 
   

But without going down a practice discussion rabbit hole, I would say that 
riding a bike--particularly when I'm alone--requires attention that is akin 
to zazen.  It's one of the things that I have always loved about riding. 
 Zazen can be brutal.  It's just you and the cushion and the wall and your 
attention.  Nothing to distract you, even though your brain desperately 
wants something to feed it.  And so the focus on breathing, dropping 
thoughts, posture.  The need for this sort of focus comes up a lot when I'm 
riding.  

Just today I was out riding and was climbing up a decent grade near my 
house and had to keep reminding myself that the only thing I need to focus 
on is the motion of my body and bike in each moment, THAT pedal stroke, 
THAT revolution of the wheels, etc.  My lungs were straining and I wanted 
to stop, but once I got into the rhythm of just paying attention to one 
moment at a time, my body settled down and I was able to keep climbing one 
pedal stroke at a time.  It's not much different from the experience of 
sitting through what feels like the 100th hour of zazen on a hot afternoon 
when your legs and back are aching, your arms feel like they are going to 
drop off, your thoughts are popping off and you are convinced that the 
timekeeper died or forgot to ring the bell...just returning your focus to 
the present breath, over and over again and all of the discomfort, anxiety 
and thinking will eventually go quiet and you can settle down into 
something deeper. Nothing lasts, everything changes.  It's a lot like 
riding in that way.  

I'll end my long response now, but thanks for the opportunity to consider 
the connection between practice and biking again.   

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Re: [RBW] Beautiful (to me) bar wrap

[Erik]

Gorgeous!


>
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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

[Erik]

Were the choco moose bars original equipment on the first round of 
Appaloosas?  

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:10:33 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:

> [image: 186E1CD7-3716-4BE9-A68B-A3B5D6CD2FD2.jpeg]+1 choco moose
>
>  
>
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Same here for the choco moose bars on this bike. I switched to albatross 
>> to lighten the build, but went back to the perfect  bars for this 
>> bike—choco moose. 
>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:58:54 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I did the same thing to my Appaloosas: boscomoose, bullmoose, 
>>> chocomoose, choco, albatross, billie. All of them worked great on this 
>>> bike. At the end of the day I always come back to the chocomoose though. 
>>> There is something magical about those bars, at least for me. Great hand 
>>> positions. I love how they are inverted. And yes, they are tougher and 
>>> stiffer than other bars 'n stems. They work great with bar end shifters or 
>>> thumbies. One thing I discovered is that although I think the silver 
>>> shifters are the best, the clamp is not so great for inboard thumbies. The 
>>> microshift shifters with paul levers have a nice low profile and don't 
>>> interrupt your hand positions. With respect to the Newbaums, yes I have 
>>> used a shameful amount for bar swaps over the years. At some point I just 
>>> started slipping oury grips on the end and leaving the forward grip areas 
>>> permanently taped. Bike looks great!
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 I just used my standard Nitto drop bar on my Appaloosa, with a shorter 
 stem than on my other bikes because it has a longer top tube. Brake levers 
 in their normal location, wrapped the bars, haven't changed anything since:
 [image: PXL_20201213_024100183.jpg]

 Nick

>>>

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[RBW] Re: XL Susie Handlebar dilemma

[Erik]

I ran a 30mm Discord W(Right) stem from Analog on my Susie with the 
non-loop Jones H-bar.  It was a great combo.  If you like those bars, the 
Discord stem should give you what you are after.  I was riding a large 
Susie, but had the same issue of longer legs, shorter reach and needed a 
stem and bar combo that came back but not too aggressively.  The sweep on 
the Jones bar is really comfortable for trails and technical riding.  I 
ended up swapping it out for a Persuader bar, but the Jones / Discord combo 
was really good.

On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 7:06:48 PM UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> Danny, Thank you! I have never looked at analog and did not know about 
> these Discord stems, they will solve my problems just perfectly. Big wad of 
> cash for a stem but these days you do what you have to.
>
> Joe, I love the Billie but using it on some single track and rock gardens 
> on a few occasions I have found it can be a little bit awkward. Not 
> terrible but not perfect, and perfection is a nice goal sometimes.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Erik]

That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to 
see ride reports once its all built up!

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might 
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new 
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars 
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender 
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was 
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, 
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell 
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes 
> according to plan! 
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>>
>> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety 
>> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I 
>> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs 
>> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, 
>> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>>
>> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of 
>> mess after every ride.
>>
>> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jason, 
>>>
>>> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety 
>>> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 
>>> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once 
>>> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the 
>>> wheel removed while loading it into the van. 
>>>
>>> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back 
>>> into place, no harm done.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Fuller 
>>> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>>>
>>> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
>>> ruinage and full body aches. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which 
>>> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, 
>>> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure 
>>> this avoids the problem entirely.  
>>>
>>> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a 
>>> bit?  Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>>>
>>> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past 
>>> Sunday's trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to 
>>> install on the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think 
>>> will do the trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to 
>>> try, but alas, I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the 
>>> knobby Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike 
>>> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of 
>>> times since then. I really 
>>> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
>>>
>>> EricF
>>> Vancouver BC
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

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Sold.  

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[RBW] Re: Mermaid Builds

[Erik]

Thank you for sharing that, Roberta!

On Monday, December 20, 2021 at 7:56:52 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> My Platy pics were posted by me on June 15 in this Long thread. 
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/5Qe4GAOJReQ/m/VDaBTF_eBAAJ 
>  
>
> Most components on my bike two tone, mostly silver with bit of black. 
> Wheels have more color when not dusty.   I think it’s a classy look on a 
> Platy but you can go bolder on a Gus.   I let Candice at analog pick the 
> scheme. She “gets” my style. I did opt for black wall tires for extra flat 
> protection, if that’s a thing. Looking forward to seeing your new bike. 
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 3:59:52 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>
>> In anticipation of the new mermaid Gus I picked up in the presale this 
>> week,  I'm thinking through my existing components and wondering if I 
>> should lean toward a black or silver build.  I had my orange Susie set up 
>> with pretty much all silver everything with yellow and lime green bolts and 
>> accents, but am wondering how that will look on the mermaid color. I've 
>> been browsing photos on IG, but I'd love to see how folks on the list have 
>> set up their mermaid Appaloosas and Platypuses, what bar tape colors you've 
>> tried, component colors, etc. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik]

Sale Pending...


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Re: [RBW] Re: Mermaid Builds

[Erik]

That is a classy build, Eric.  What is the combo of bar tape color and 
shellac you used to get that result?  

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik]

AVAILABLE!  The sale fell through so this bike is available again.  Let me 
know if you are interested and would like to chat!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mermaid Builds

[Erik]

Love the black bits on this build.  I saw the all-black component Platypus 
build from Crust on the other thread and really liked it.  I think I prefer 
it this way with some silver thrown in.  Thanks for posting this!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik]

SOLD!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Mermaid Builds

[Erik]

Wow!  I was on IG about five minutes after I posted this and saw the post 
from Analog.  What a gorgeous build, Leah!  I've been looking at golds, 
burnt orange, and brown, but hadn't thought about green with that color. I 
actually have lime green deity pedals on the orange Susie right now and 
lots of little green bling from my orange bikes.  I'll keep them on hand 
after seeing this!  Thank you for posting this and congratulations on a 
beautiful bike.

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[RBW] Mermaid Builds

[Erik]

In anticipation of the new mermaid Gus I picked up in the presale this 
week,  I'm thinking through my existing components and wondering if I 
should lean toward a black or silver build.  I had my orange Susie set up 
with pretty much all silver everything with yellow and lime green bolts and 
accents, but am wondering how that will look on the mermaid color. I've 
been browsing photos on IG, but I'd love to see how folks on the list have 
set up their mermaid Appaloosas and Platypuses, what bar tape colors you've 
tried, component colors, etc. 

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[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

[Erik]

I rode Bridgestones back in the day, starting with my first new mountain 
bike, an MB-4.  My local shop was a Bridgestone dealer so I saw all of 
models come through over the years.  I eventually purchased an RB-2 as well 
and pined away over the XO-1.   I loved the Bridgestone catalogs and 
Grant's writing / philosophy on bikes and bike riding.  I broke the frame 
on the MB-4 eventually and got a warrantied replacement at the tail end of 
Bridgestone in North America.  This was a while after they were available 
retail.  They replaced my MB-4 with an MB-2 frame and I rode that bike and 
my RB for many, many years as my primary around-town and road bikes.  By 
that time I was into suspension on my mountain bikes and went down that 
rabbit hole for another decade or so.

I found this group in 2010 or so when I was getting disillusioned with my 
big mountain bikes and the suspension arms race and was looking for a new 
direction with my riding.  During this time my primary riding was commuting 
to work and exploring the back roads where I live, all things better done 
on a bike other than full suspension all mountain machines.  I finally made 
the leap in 2017 when I found myself on good financial footing and bought 
an Appaloosa.  An Atlantis followed that.  Then a Hillborne.  Then I traded 
the Hillborne for a Susie.  Now a Gus on the way.  I sold my last modern 
bike last year and used the funds to buy wheels and fancy bling for the 
Appaloosa. Getting into Rivendells has totally changed how I think about my 
bikes, bike riding, and how they fit into my life. I'm so glad to that I 
just get to go casually exploring and wandering now instead of dressing up 
and for a RIDE.  Bikes are a bigger part of my life than ever because they 
are just something that fit into everything I do now, from getting 
groceries to commuting to wandering the many trails in my local woods. 

-Erik 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik Shearer]

And I’m certainly not encouraging it!

Erik

> On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:04 PM, Collin A  wrote:
> 
> You can, but Riv recently initiated a 10% "restocking fee" to discourage 
> that. That was back in August, so not sure that is still the case.
> 
> Collin in Sactown
> 
>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:32:56 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hadn’t even thought of canceling my order… I guess it wouldn’t be putting 
>> them out since it would sell quickly. Hmmm. Guess I’d have to be sure I 
>> could cancel it!
>> 
>>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>>> I was really tempted to make you an offer, but wasn't positive I would land 
>>> a Gus! Let me know if you want to cancel your order and take this lovely 
>>> orange bike instead.  :) 
>>> 
>>> To answer a couple of questions that have come through: 
>>> I have an 87.5 PBH.  My saddle height is 75-76cm.  My legs are long for my 
>>> height, so I've been running this with a 30mm extension Discord stem and a 
>>> Tumbleweed Persuader bar.  I initially set it up with a 50mm stem and a 
>>> Jones bar with more backsweep (shown in the photos).  The reach was great 
>>> in both configurations.  I tried a Bosco but prefer less angle for off-road 
>>> riding and tried my nitto bullmoose, but didn't like the forward extension. 
>>>
>>> I do have other components available, but no brakes or cranksets at this 
>>> time.  I have a variety of 9-speed cassettes, some good derailleurs, and 
>>> SunRace thumbshifters. Happy to send along details. 
>>> I'm going to be posting this on Craiglist later today, but wanted to give 
>>> the list members the first shot at it!  Let me know if you are interested. 
>>>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 6:59:12 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I’d have jumped on this if it was listed before the pre sale! Haha. I’m 
>>>> sure it won’t last long. Good luck with the Gus!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>>>>> I’m putting my glorious Susie up for sale.  I have loved riding this 
>>>>> bike, but as someone at the top end of the suggested Susie weight range, 
>>>>> I have decided to move up to a Gus so that I can add racks and load the 
>>>>> thing up for more adventuring with a little more peace of mind.  I was 
>>>>> able to secure a large Gus (in mermaid!) in the presale this week, so I’m 
>>>>> going to pass this incredible bike along to a new owner.  The bike is in 
>>>>> great shape.  I am the second owner, but it was lovingly maintained by me 
>>>>> and the previous owner.  It has been ridden and had racks installed, so 
>>>>> it has a couple of nicks and rubbed spots in the paint from bags (shown 
>>>>> in the photos), but no crashes, no dents, no problems.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZpww77TLQqSb1md8
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m offering three options on this sale: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Option 1: Frame / Fork / Headset / Bottom Bracket for $1650
>>>>> Option 2: All of the above plus all of the following for $2100
>>>>> -Cliffhanger / Shimano LX Wheelset (32h/700c), used and in 
>>>>> great shape - $350
>>>>> -Vittoria __ 29x2.1 tires, new, but have been mounted 
>>>>> - $50
>>>>> -Riv seatpost - $0
>>>>> -Discord W(Right) Stem, 50mm 31.8 clamp - $125
>>>>>-Jones H-Bar Bend, lightly used - $50
>>>>> Option 3: F/F/H/BB plus any of the components listed above at $1650 plus 
>>>>> the price listed next to each component.  
>>>>> I’m in the SF Bay Area and would prefer a local-ish sale but am willing 
>>>>> to discuss shipping.  Shipping is an additional cost to the prices listed 
>>>>> above.   The parts are not currently for sale separately, but I’m happy 
>>>>> to sell those after I’ve completed the bike transaction, so let me know 
>>>>> if you are interested.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Feel free to message me directly with inquiries! 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Erik 
>>>>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik]

I was really tempted to make you an offer, but wasn't positive I would land 
a Gus! Let me know if you want to cancel your order and take this lovely 
orange bike instead.  :) 

To answer a couple of questions that have come through: 

   - I have an 87.5 PBH.  My saddle height is 75-76cm.  My legs are long 
   for my height, so I've been running this with a 30mm extension Discord stem 
   and a Tumbleweed Persuader bar.  I initially set it up with a 50mm stem and 
   a Jones bar with more backsweep (shown in the photos).  The reach was great 
   in both configurations.  I tried a Bosco but prefer less angle for off-road 
   riding and tried my nitto bullmoose, but didn't like the forward extension. 
  
   - I do have other components available, but no brakes or cranksets at 
   this time.  I have a variety of 9-speed cassettes, some good derailleurs, 
   and SunRace thumbshifters. Happy to send along details. 

I'm going to be posting this on Craiglist later today, but wanted to give 
the list members the first shot at it!  Let me know if you are interested. 
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 6:59:12 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’d have jumped on this if it was listed before the pre sale! Haha. I’m 
> sure it won’t last long. Good luck with the Gus!
>
> On Friday, December 17, 2021 at 11:26:36 AM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>
>> I’m putting my glorious Susie up for sale.  I have loved riding this 
>> bike, but as someone at the top end of the suggested Susie weight range, I 
>> have decided to move up to a Gus so that I can add racks and load the thing 
>> up for more adventuring with a little more peace of mind.  I was able to 
>> secure a large Gus (in mermaid!) in the presale this week, so I’m going to 
>> pass this incredible bike along to a new owner.  The bike is in great 
>> shape.  I am the second owner, but it was lovingly maintained by me and the 
>> previous owner.  It has been ridden and had racks installed, so it has a 
>> couple of nicks and rubbed spots in the paint from bags (shown in the 
>> photos), but no crashes, no dents, no problems.  
>>
>> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZpww77TLQqSb1md8
>>
>> I’m offering three options on this sale: 
>>
>>
>>- *Option 1*: Frame / Fork / Headset / Bottom Bracket for $1650
>>- *Option 2*: All of the above plus all of the following for $2100
>>
>> -Cliffhanger / Shimano LX Wheelset (32h/700c), used and in 
>> great shape - $350
>> -Vittoria __ 29x2.1 tires, new, but have been mounted 
>> - $50
>> -Riv seatpost - $0
>> -Discord W(Right) Stem, 50mm 31.8 clamp - $125
>>-Jones H-Bar Bend, lightly used - $50
>>
>>- *Option 3*: F/F/H/BB plus any of the components listed above at 
>>$1650 plus the price listed next to each component.  
>>
>> I’m in the SF Bay Area and would prefer a local-ish sale but am willing 
>> to discuss shipping.  Shipping is an additional cost to the prices listed 
>> above.   The parts are not currently for sale separately, but I’m happy to 
>> sell those after I’ve completed the bike transaction, so let me know if you 
>> are interested.  
>>
>> Feel free to message me directly with inquiries! 
>>
>> Erik 
>>
>

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[RBW] FS - Susie W Longbolts - 56(Large) - Orange

[Erik]

I’m putting my glorious Susie up for sale.  I have loved riding this bike, 
but as someone at the top end of the suggested Susie weight range, I have 
decided to move up to a Gus so that I can add racks and load the thing up 
for more adventuring with a little more peace of mind.  I was able to 
secure a large Gus (in mermaid!) in the presale this week, so I’m going to 
pass this incredible bike along to a new owner.  The bike is in great 
shape.  I am the second owner, but it was lovingly maintained by me and the 
previous owner.  It has been ridden and had racks installed, so it has a 
couple of nicks and rubbed spots in the paint from bags (shown in the 
photos), but no crashes, no dents, no problems.  

Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/HZpww77TLQqSb1md8

I’m offering three options on this sale: 


   - *Option 1*: Frame / Fork / Headset / Bottom Bracket for $1650
   - *Option 2*: All of the above plus all of the following for $2100

-Cliffhanger / Shimano LX Wheelset (32h/700c), used and in 
great shape - $350
-Vittoria __ 29x2.1 tires, new, but have been mounted - 
$50
-Riv seatpost - $0
-Discord W(Right) Stem, 50mm 31.8 clamp - $125
   -Jones H-Bar Bend, lightly used - $50

   - *Option 3*: F/F/H/BB plus any of the components listed above at $1650 
   plus the price listed next to each component.  

I’m in the SF Bay Area and would prefer a local-ish sale but am willing to 
discuss shipping.  Shipping is an additional cost to the prices listed 
above.   The parts are not currently for sale separately, but I’m happy to 
sell those after I’ve completed the bike transaction, so let me know if you 
are interested.  

Feel free to message me directly with inquiries! 

Erik 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Erik]

Rich builds beautiful wheels.  I have the White Industries / Velocity 
Cliffhangers on my Susie.  Certainly not necessary, but they are well worth 
it. And I think you'll love the dark gold color.  

>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d 
>> have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels 
>> with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump 
>> situation these days…
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: hanging bikes on the wall

[Erik Wright]

Hey Minh,

The first two things that jumped to mind are a pulley system like this 
<https://www.homedepot.com/p/Robtec-Black-1-Bike-Heavy-Duty-Hoist-Garage-Bike-Rack-CBH45/206479084?source=shoppingads=en-US>
 (looks 
a little too storage-y for indoor hanging imo) or a product like Da Hanger 
<https://dahanger.co/collections/pedal-hooks/products/dahanger-dan>. The 
latter is my preferred indoor storage method- it has a tidy look, and 
pulling the wheels to the wall keeps the bike from protruding out too far.

Erik, Philly

On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 4:38:37 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hi all, hope everyone is adjusting to winter, at least for us in the 
> northeast! 
> as its getting colder, i'm dealing with some bike maint. and one of them 
> is solving the bike storage for my lone QB.  i've settled on hanging on the 
> wall, but next challenge, how do people lift the bike up high enough?  
> currently i can only get it up to about chest high, any tricks to get 
> higher?  step ladder? 
>
> this is inside our apt, so i can't ropes over the rafters.   
>
> would appreciate any other ideas people have, only constraint is that i'd 
> like to get it off the floor, and it needs to hang parallel to the wall--so 
> no hanging by front wheel.  thanks for any ideas!
>

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[RBW] Re: what size Gus or Susie for tall riders?

[Erik]

I ride a large (56) Susie and it fits perfectly.   I'm 5'10" with an 87.5 
PBH and 75-76 saddle height.  My PBH:reach ratio is a little off, so I run 
a 30mm reach stem with my preferred trail riding bars to keep me a little 
more upright.   I've ridden the 53 and it was definitely too small.  I 
didn't even ride the 59 as it was clearly too big.  I imagine the 59 would 
be a good fit for your numbers.    

Erik

On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 9:26:40 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:

> From yesterday's Riv email, they said the next batch of Susie and Gus 
> frames will be coming available for order later this month. Even though my 
> bike fund is seriously underwater, I'm still thinking about ordering a 
> Susie. But, I'm right between the sizes and I'm curious what other sizes 
> similarly tall people picked.
>
> I'm 6'3", 36" (91cm) PBH, and 32" saddle height. That's the upper edge of 
> the 56cm or somewhere in the 59cm range. 
>
> What did you pick? How about a picture?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> Plain City OH
> where it would be really great if someone is interested in a modernish 
> but still old schoolish 
> <https://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-for-sale-post.html> 
> mountain bike to help my bike fund
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone run 650b on a Sam Hillborne?

[Erik Wright]

I used the Tektro RL520 <https://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=71> when I 
had drop bars on there. I have no complaints about the braking or lever 
feel or anything like that. I was always curious about the Dia-Compe 287 
because it seems to be the list's consensus on best v-brake drop bar lever, 
but never took the plunge.

Erik, Philly

On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 9:00:13 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

>
> Hey Erick,
> What brake levers do you use to run motolites on a dropbar?
> Thanks
> Max
> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 11:30:51 AM UTC-4 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> I have a 2014-ish sidepull Sam Hillborne that I picked up off this list 
>> in spring 2018. The bike came to me with Paul Racers and I rode tires as 
>> big as 700x44. After seeing Ultraromance's 650b conversion on his Sam H, I 
>> thought I'd give that configuration a go (because there's just something 
>> about fat knobby tires on a road bike that get's me goin').
>>
>> In early 2019 I had a local framebuilder add canti posts at 650b 
>> placement for about $150. Nervous about committing to 650b on this bike 
>> because of the reasons Bill and others mention (bb drop, pedal strike, 
>> etc), I purchased Paul Motolites so I could swap between 700c and 650b 
>> if/when needed. I managed to squeeze in 27.5x2.1" Schwalbe Thunderburts 
>> with *very* little clearance, but went on a few bikepacking trips with 
>> this setup. I've since added a Crust Evasion to my lineup (which also has 
>> two wheelsets, *facepalm*) and have made my Sam H a dedicated 700c bike... 
>> for now.
>>
>> I remember Blahgs from 1-2 years back where Roman @ Riv did the same 
>> thing with his Sam H. One Blahg showed him dimpling his chainstays so he 
>> could more easily squeeze a 2.1" tire in there. To this day I'm still 
>> waiting for a feature of that bike on a Blahg or a newsletter, but it looks 
>> like that day may never come.
>>
>> Regarding pedal strike- yeah, there was some, but I have a pretty high 
>> tolerance for it so didn't really notice a huge difference. The trails 
>> around here are pretty rocky and rooty so if I'm riding my SamH on trails, 
>> there's going to be pedal strike no matter what I do. The other thing 
>> people often ask is about mechanical advantage with the Motolites. I mean, 
>> sure, there's probably better stopping power with 650b wheels/pad 
>> placement, but my bike stops just fine with the pads adjusted for 700c.
>>
>> Overall the 650b conversion was a fun project and adds to my ability to 
>> tinker with that bike- BUT, not night & day to the point where I'd 
>> wholeheartedly recommend.
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>> On Sunday, October 3, 2021 at 10:52:13 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Generally speaking, switching from 700c to 650B on any 
>>> cantilever-equipped bike is considered a very bad idea, with two exceptions:
>>> 1. you have a poorly placed set of canti-posts so that they manage to 
>>> work OK
>>> 2. you have a frame builder remove and attach your canti posts in the 
>>> right place for 650B
>>>
>>> If your canti posts are in the right place for 700c, you need to run 
>>> your brake pads a full 19mm lower to hit 650B rims.  That's practically 
>>> even with the pivot itself and the leverage just doesn't work well at all
>>>
>>> Generally speaking, switch from 700c to 650B on any 700c bike with large 
>>> BB drop is considered a risky maneuver, with two exceptions:
>>> 1. you don't mind a really low BB and pedal strike doesn't concern you
>>> 2. you are going to MUCH wider 650B tires, so that the resulting BB 
>>> height may be close
>>>
>>> On disc-brake bikes, swapping from 700xTHIC to 650xTHICCC is pretty 
>>> common.  I've got a few bikes in my stable that are intended for that kind 
>>> of flexibility.  My cantilever-Sam is not one of those bikes.  700x38 + 
>>> fenders and it's perfect.  For beefier tires, I grab one of my machines 
>>> that has beefier tires  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:08 AM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, I have a Sam Hillborne without canti posts. I was considering 
>>>> trying 650b hoops to get some even beefier tires on the bike. Has anyone 
>>>> seen it done? Pics?
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: LF Single Speed Frame

[Erik Wright]

I ride a Kilo WT as a fixed fendered and basketed city bike. Using Tektro 
559s it fits a 50mm tire without fenders, and I run 38mm + fenders. Looks 
like the 62cm Ocean Blue is in stock here on Bikesdirect. 
<http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/kilott-wt-fixie-wide-tire.htm> I 
have the 59cm with a 75cm saddle height.

Erik, Philly

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 5:30:11 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> if you have a bit of patience and feel like being creative you could just 
> get a custom made - 
> https://www.marinobike.com/product/custom-gravel-fixed-cyclocross-frame/
>
> I had them build me a track drop out fixed gear mountain bike taking all 
> my favorite things from my favorite bikes ( crust evasion clearance and 
> geo, original surly 1x1 inspired QR dropouts and no braze ons for anything 
> because its a silly minimal mountain bike, jack taylor rough stuff elevated 
> seat stays.) They did a fantastic job with great customer service. it was 
> cheaper (with shipping) than I could in Canada from any company.
>
> [image: PXL_20211017_175441624.jpg]
>
> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:21:32 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>
>> The Wabi I've been commuting on is perfect in spirit but it's just too 
>> small. If anyone has a frame for sale (i.e. 62-64 Quickbeam, Simpleone ~ 
>> whatever for 80cm saddle height), I'd be interested. Similarly, if anyone 
>> can point to something else that might fit the bill, I'd appreciate it. The 
>> forthcoming Roaduno looks like it would be perfect, but I'm not sure I can 
>> hold out that long. I've got lots of single speed stuff and my commute is 
>> short and flat so I'd really like to stick with a SS frame.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bones
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Max tire on the MIT Atlantis

[Erik]

I ran 2.2 Continental Trail Kings on the 53.  They fit just fine without 
any rubbing or chainline interference.  The 2.35 max James indicated tracks 
with my experience!

Erik 

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 10:36:15 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Thanks! G1 is a micro knob so makes sense. I just calipered my Atlantis, 
> so your tire and size jives.
>
> Hugh n LA
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 10:32 PM Applegate  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hugh,
>> I was able to get 700c x 60mm/2.35" G-One Speed tires mounted to 
>> Cliffhanger rims on my MIT 55cm with no chainline interference. Even put a 
>> Simworks x Nitto Flat 65 fender over it.
>>
>> [image: IMG_2347.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 October 2021 at 19:09:57 UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> I should have been more specific, I have a 53cm, so 650b x largest size 
>>> anyone has been successful with.
>>>
>>> Hugh n LA
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021, 6:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>
>>>> This here is a call out to those with an MIT Atlantis.
>>>>
>>>> What's the largest MTB tire you've successfully squeezed on the old 
>>>> girl? Looking to put some meat on the Atlantis, 2.4 would be ideal but I 
>>>> notice the Rivendell Geo chart has 2.2 as the max. James at Riv said 2.35" 
>>>> so figured I'd ask current owners.
>>>>
>>>> TIA,
>>>>
>>>> Hugh n LA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

[Erik]

ODI grips!  Oh, man...that takes me wy back to my early BMX bikes.  I 
can feel them just looking at your photo. 

And yes, those are the 710 Jones bars.  I've not tried the narrower 
version, but love these bars on the Appaloosa in its current configuration. 
 I was dubious about the width initially, but have come to appreciate the 
longer grip area.  And I really like the Discord w(Right) stems.  I have a 
50mm on the Appaloosa and a 30mm on the Susie, both in the clear coat 
finish.  It looks particularly good with the clear coat Persuader bar. 
 Lots of raw steel! 

Erik 

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 12:22:51 PM UTC-7 :

> Hi Erik
>
> Love all those bars...and need that stem!
> Is that the 710 Jones? I'm looking for anyone with experience of the 610.
> Below are my Nitto "Commuter Bars". Heat-treated nonetheless. Just grey 
> tape and Amber shellac...but ODI BMX grips that I love.
>
> Happy wrapping!
>
> Steve
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need inspiration: Show me your wrapped handlebars, please?

[Erik]

These aren't complicated wrapping patterns at all, but I like to mess 
around with new color combinations and wraps on a regular basis.  A good 
source of interesting color combinations are plaid patterns.  You can find 
a lot of interesting color combinations / harmonies / contrasts in those 
patterns.

These are the current iterations on my Rivs.  First photo is my orange 
Appaloosa - light gray, yellow, lime green with a custom mix of amber and 
clear shellac, also Campandgoslow western diamondback tape on Jones H-loop. 
Second photo is my Susie / Wolbis: light gray and yellow with clear shellac 
on Persuader bars.  Third is my Atlantis: chocolate, yellow, burnt orange, 
dark gray with mostly clear shellac on Albatross bars. 

I'm also starting to mess around with colored shellac.  I discovered that I 
can use shellac-based drawing inks to successfully color clear shellac into 
whatever color or hue my heart desires.  It opens up a lot of interesting 
possibilities.  I should probably be putting this time and effort into my 
actual artwork! 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/n3Rf14n4AroGzR3x9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4h8BKXu8t1qFV3qP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vKqmq2Fbs8wedUJu8

Erik

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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[Erik]

These are the SunRace one-at-a-time shifters, so not really indexing.  The 
GX derailer was originally paired with Shimano bar-ends and a Jtek pull 
modifier when I had the bike set up with drops.  I purchased it all from 
Analog with advice from James.  When I moved to the Jones H-Loop, I swapped 
the SunRace shifters into the system without the pull modifier to see if it 
would work.  Surprisingly it did so I rode with those for the past nine 
months or so.   I would never have tried the GX with a nine speed shifter 
had it not been for Analog.

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:25:52 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> You got a 9spd SunRace shifter and cassette to index with a 10spd SRAM GX 
> derailer? How did you even think to try it??
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[Erik]

Hi Kushan.  I did something similar to the drivetrain on my Appaloosa last 
year.  I have a 42 / 24 double up front and wanted an ultra-low bailout 
gear in the back for loaded off-road riding / touring.  I'm not a small man 
and when I get the bike loaded with gear, it's nice to have something 
really, really low for short stretches to give me a little recovery time on 
long climbs.  I looked at 10spd cassettes but ended up going with a SunRace 
11 - 40t 9spd cassette to minimize the number of components I had to 
change.  It worked really well.  

My full set-up was: SunRace 9spd thumb shifters (the type Riv used on a lot 
of builds), 11-40 SunRace 9spd cassette, and a SRAM GX 10spd derailer.  I 
used that derailer as it worked with an 11-40 without any extender but was 
compatible with the 9spd shifters.  Interestingly, this set-up shifted 
through the full 11-40 without any sort of pull modification. I also used 
this set-up with Shimano bar-end shifters, but that required a JTek cable 
pull modifier. I currently have this set up with Microshift thumb shifters 
in friction mode and a cable pull modifier.   I suspect that the 9spd Deore 
and Silver shifters would work just fine with a GoatLink or similar 
extender.

At any rate, the 24 x 40 combo has provided a usable low, low gear.  I 
rarely use it, but it's nice when needed, which has always been on extended 
climbs with lots of weight on the bike.  I use it for short periods before 
shifting back into gears that actually feel like they are giving me forward 
progress!  24 x 40 almost feels like sitting still!   The lowest gear-inch 
on a 24 x 40 is 15.8 inches.  A 24x40  is 16.6.  Pretty close.  By contrast 
a 24x36 is 18.6.  (These calcs are with a 700c wheel at 42mm).  Again, I 
rarely use the lowest gear, but it's nice to have on occasion.  It's not 
THAT much different from an 11-36 in practice, but it is lower on paper and 
in my head.  :)   

And the SunRace 11-40 9spd is currently available from a lot of different 
retailers.  

Erik 

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Erik]

Clem L
Large 
$1850 Complete
Napa, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-rivendell-clementine-59-cm/7391940809.html

Not associated with the seller in any way!  Just came across it looking for 
old bikes to rebuild.  

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[RBW] Re: PayPal now taxing goods & services transactions >$600

[Erik]

Thank you for that explanation, Julian!  

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 5:06:11 AM UTC-7 ...wrote:

>
> Unless you are actually making a net profit on your bike and other sales 
> paid via Paypal this will have no impact other than requiring a bit more 
> carful record keeping. Even if you get a 1099 you can report a cost basis 
> equal to the 1099 amount if you sold for less than what you originally 
> bought the items for, so you will not pay any taxes. Of course you should 
> retain some sort of record of original purchase price versus what you sold 
> it for. 
>
> If someone is selling 10s of thousands of dollars of stuff through Paypal 
> and claims a high cost basis they should be fully prepared to back it up. 
> For most of us it is not a big deal -- the law regarding what is taxed has 
> not changed, just the reporting -- designed to catch those who are actually 
> engaged in a profit- making business but who might be evading taxes. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
> On Friday, October 8, 2021 at 9:33:20 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty certain that this is a new requirement that takes effect on 
>> January 1, 2022.  It will result in PayPal, Venmo, etc. being required to 
>> issue 1099-K forms to anyone who sells in excess of $600 per year.  The old 
>> threshold was $20,000 and 200 transactions.  It's been lowered to $600 no 
>> matter the number of transactions.  PayPal is starting to inform customers 
>> now it seems.  
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PayPal now taxing goods & services transactions >$600

[Erik]

I'm pretty certain that this is a new requirement that takes effect on 
January 1, 2022.  It will result in PayPal, Venmo, etc. being required to 
issue 1099-K forms to anyone who sells in excess of $600 per year.  The old 
threshold was $20,000 and 200 transactions.  It's been lowered to $600 no 
matter the number of transactions.  PayPal is starting to inform customers 
now it seems.  

 

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[RBW] WTB / ISO - 55cm MIT Atlantis

[Erik]

Afternoon Fellow Riv Folks,

I am looking for a 55cm MIT Atlantis to purchase. I currently have a 53, 
but want to swap up to the larger frame and wheels.  Let me know if you 
have one, see one, or hear of any for sale.  I realize this is a long shot, 
but thought I’d try!  

Erik

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[RBW] ISO / WTB 55cm MIT Atlantis

[Erik]

Hello All. I am looking for a 55 MIT Atlantis. I currently have a 53 but 
want to size up to the  700cc wheels and slightly larger frame on the 55. 
Let me know if you have a 55 with which you’d be willing to part! I’d 
prefer a frame and fork, but would be willing to purchase / trade for a 
complete. 

I realize this may be a long shot, but thought I’d put it out there.  

Erik

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[RBW] Re: ISO Appaloosa/Hungapillar, Atlantis

[Erik]

Afternoon, Hugh!  I have a 53 2018 Atlantis that I might be putting up for 
sale.  The catch is that I’m trying to find a 55cm MIT Atlantis 2018 or 
later to replace it. If I can find a 55, I’d be happy to sell the 53 to 
you. I rode Grant’s 55 at headquarters this morning and am certain I want 
the larger size. You’ve seen my photos of the 53 on IG. I realize this 
doesn’t solve the immediate ask, but thought I’d put it out there. Feel 
free to reach out here or on Instagram. 
On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 7:39:34 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi All!
>
> I'm toying with the idea of picking up another Riv. I'd like this rig as a 
> dedicated light off roader/camper rig. Maybe you have a collection of 
> Rivendell's and maybe one of the below is gathering dust because your in 
> love with another bike Rivendell just a tad more. No worries we won't tell 
> the other fine rigs in your stable :) Here's what I'm looking for:
>
> Appaloosa in size 51cm
> Hungapillar in size 48cm or perhaps a Bombadil? Not sure of the sizing 
> here?
> 2018 and above Atlantis in 53 cm
> As a 4th option I'll consider a Clem Jr in a 52cm 
>
> My PBH is 84cm and my saddle height is ~71.5cm 
>
> Ideally I'd like a frame & fork as I like to spec my own build like many 
> others but depending on the mix of parts you have will consider a complete 
> build.
>
> I'm in Los Angeles and will pay for shipping or if within 600 miles 
> consider a road trip? Lemme know what you have and we can chat.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh Smitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

And then it was two derailleurs and a saddle: 

RD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
 $   40.00 
Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
 $   25.00 
Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
 $   85.00 

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 1:07:52 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:

> The following items are still available: 
>
> IRD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
>  $   40.00 
> Wheelset: Velocity A23 /White Industries M15 32h front, 36 rear.  700cc / 
> 135mm
>  $ 600.00 
> Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
>  $   25.00 
> Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
>  $   85.00 
>
> More info on the specifics and conditions of each item can be found here: 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bXo_fpfV5PYsSxpX7tYtOQo5O-elYl0v4Xr1nsTzSaw/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Photos of all goods are here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/28WH4kr2S4c1qcqSA
>>>
>>> Feel free to send me a direct message with any questions or to make 
>>> purchase arrangements.  
>>>
>>> Erik 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

The following items are still available: 

IRD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
 $   40.00 
Wheelset: Velocity A23 /White Industries M15 32h front, 36 rear.  700cc / 
135mm
 $ 600.00 
Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
 $   25.00 
Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
 $   85.00 



>> More info on the specifics and conditions of each item can be found here: 
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bXo_fpfV5PYsSxpX7tYtOQo5O-elYl0v4Xr1nsTzSaw/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Photos of all goods are here: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/28WH4kr2S4c1qcqSA
>>
>> Feel free to send me a direct message with any questions or to make 
>> purchase arrangements.  
>>
>> Erik 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wall Hanging Bike with Albatross Bars

[Erik Wright]

Living in a 100 year old row home, learning how to store/mount all my bikes 
when I first moved in was a JOURNEY. I explored most wall-mounting options, 
having 4 bikes all mounted differently as display / storage on the first 
floor of my house.

At the Philly Bike Expo '17 I saw DaHanger 
<https://dahanger.co/products/dahanger-dan>, which mounts just like the 
Gootus that Michael shared. I picked one up and it's by far my favorite of 
all the wall-mounting options. It feels tidier than other options and keeps 
the wheels tucked against the wall so the bike encroaches on the living 
space much less. It works great with Albatross bars, my 50cm Cowchippers, 
and other wide bars. I haven't tried vertical stacking like they say you 
can do, but I'm considering it.

I recommend it!

Erik, Philly

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 11:11:28 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> I have a similar issue in my apartment. I was thinking of trying this: the 
> Gootus mount.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TR993MF/ref=twister_B0967ZZJM9?_encoding=UTF8=1
>
> I'm mostly repulsed by bike hanging systems because they all seem to 
> appear to be torturing bikes or making them look like they are drawn and 
> quartered. I think bikes should be stored as ready-to-go as possible.
>
> Has anyone used it?
>
> Michael
>
> PS If your Quickbeam is a 58cm, I'll buy it. I'm in NYC too.
>
>
> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 10:46:59 AM UTC-4 Minh wrote:
>
>> Hoping to mine the collective mind a little bit.  I'm trying to figure 
>> out how to wall mount my quickbeam, but i have the ultra wide albatross 
>> bars which is pushing it away from the wall.  
>>
>> has anyone mounted something similar?  did you use off the shelf rack or 
>> built something custom?I tried a cycloc (which is pretty far off the 
>> wall) and see to remember the front wheel still needed to be turned a bit 
>> to clear the wall!
>>
>> this is a last effort to come up with an acceptable solution to store my 
>> QB in our small brooklyn apt, otherwise i may have to let it go so thanks 
>> for any ideas!
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

The following items are still available: 

IRD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
>  $   40.00 
> Nitto Noodle Handlebar 48cm
>  $   60.00 
> Wheelset: Velocity A23 /White Industries M15 32h front, 36 rear.  700cc / 
> 135mm
>  $ 600.00 
> Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
>  $   25.00 
> Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
>  $   85.00 
> Soma Shikoro, 700c x 38mm
>  $   70.00 
>
> More info on the specifics and conditions of each item can be found here: 
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bXo_fpfV5PYsSxpX7tYtOQo5O-elYl0v4Xr1nsTzSaw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Photos of all goods are here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/28WH4kr2S4c1qcqSA
>
> Feel free to send me a direct message with any questions or to make 
> purchase arrangements.  
>
> Erik 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

Nitto seatpost is spoken for.  

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[RBW] FS: Lots of Goodies, Including Brakes, Bars, Brooks Saddle and a Wheelset

[Erik]

I am finishing up a new-to-me bike build and have decided to divest my shop 
of a bunch of equipment. I've acquired a lot of things that need a good 
forever home.  Prices are w/o shipping.  PayPal or cash (for in-person 
sales) preferred.  

On the wheelset: this gorgeous set was built by Rich at Rivendell / Hands 
on Wheels for me in February.  I had it on my Hillborne which I recently 
traded for a Susie.   I hate to let them go, but I'm sure someone else can 
actually use them.  I would prefer not to ship them, but can if needed.  I 
always worry about wheels getting damaged in shipment.  

I'm local to the SF Bay Area.  I live in the north bay, but am happy to 
meet up for exchanges of goods within reasonable driving distances in the 
Bay Area or Sacramento area.  

The Paul Touring Cantilevers are a two-wheel set.  I only took a photo of 
one pair.  


IRD Alpina Triple FD, Braze-on w/ 26.8 Clamp
 $   40.00 
Shimano Tiagra Road Brake Levers
 $   30.00 
Paul Components Touring Cantilever Brakes w/ Moon Units - Silver
 $ 200.00 
Nitto Noodle Handlebar 48cm
 $   60.00 
Nitto Tallux Stem, 26.0 clamp, 7cm reach
 $   50.00 
Wheelset: Velocity A23 /White Industries M15 32h front, 36 rear.  700cc / 
135mm
 $ 600.00 
Nitto S65 Seatpost - 26.8 x 300mm
 $   40.00 
Tektro V-Brakes
 $   20.00 
Shimano Deore Front Derailleur (M6205H), Top Swing, Low Clamp
 $   25.00 
Cane Creek V-Brake Levers for Drop Bars 
 $   25.00 
Brooks C-17 Cambium Special, Black / Natural, 
 $   85.00 
Nitto HiRiser, Threadless, 25.4 clamp, 105mm
 $   50.00 
Soma Shikoro, 700c x 38mm
 $   70.00 

More info on the specifics and conditions of each item can be found here: 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bXo_fpfV5PYsSxpX7tYtOQo5O-elYl0v4Xr1nsTzSaw/edit?usp=sharing

Photos of all goods are here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/28WH4kr2S4c1qcqSA

Feel free to send me a direct message with any questions or to make 
purchase arrangements.  

Erik 

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[RBW] Re: WTT Large Orange Susie Frameset

[Erik]

Are you still looking to trade this bike for another Riv?  I have a 54 
Hillborne that's a touch too small for me that I may be interested in 
trading.  I'm in the Bay Area, too.  

On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 10:43:01 AM UTC-7 mgm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello out there.
>
> This bike has been great but it's just a touch too big for me. I picked up 
> the frame/fork/headset from Rivhq last summer and built it up myself. I've 
> put maybe 250 miles on it since. It's in great shape with some very minor 
> paint rub marks - what you'd expect from a bike that's been ridden.
>
> I'd consider selling it, but I'd like to first see if anyone is interested 
> in a Riv for Riv trade. I'd be into an Atlantis or an Appaloosa or a Sam. 
> If you have a 650b/700c Riv framset and you're interested in a trade, get 
> in touch and let me know what you have. I have a 84cm pbh.
>
> Pictures here .
>
> I'd like this to be a local transaction.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt in Oakland
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[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

[Erik]

Good point!  Based on my experience, my size / weight, and my riding 
environment, the Appaloosa would be the winner if I had to choose between 
the two.  It has a wider range of uses for me.  

On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 11:23:28 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Several have answered with keeping both bikes, which I don't think is an 
> option presented to us for this thread. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
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[RBW] Re: Do you stand and pull with upright bars?

[Erik Wright]

Hey Zack,

I ride with Albatross bars on my Hillborne. I also do a lot of city riding 
in Philly where just about every intersection has a stop sign. I stand & 
pull all the time from just about every hand position on the bar. In my 
opinion, it's fine. The one thing I'd say is to make sure you either use a 
25.4 stem or get a shim for a 26.0 stem- the bars WILL scooch around with 
aggressive pulling.

Erik, Philly
On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:05:52 AM UTC-7 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi Zack,
> I stand to climb even with a full load on my touring bike. Alabas are at 
> my bare minimum width for this, but body types vary. I transitioned to a 
> wider bar and enjoy it more than the albas on this bike. The bars are 
> generic chrome steel from a bike I bought long a go, but they just work. I 
> had the bike loaded up for a test run this week and climbed well for me 
> standing. When climbing or acellerating as you describe, I pull on the bars 
> and rock the bike. 
> Go for it.
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:49:48 AM UTC-4 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been interested in switching to albatross bars but one of my 
>> concerns is that it'll be difficult to stand, pedal hard, and pull on the 
>> bars. I do a lot of city riding, so being able to do this from a stop or 
>> rolling stop is a key part of my riding. 
>>
>> I've watched Dan Stroud's (aka hobocross) video on how he sets up his 
>> albas to have more of a "hoods" position, which seems like a natural 
>> solution to this problem, but in his video he doesn't seem to stand and 
>> pull a whole lot. 
>>
>> Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGokAt6XAi0=152s
>>
>> Anyone have thoughts/experience with this?
>>
>> Zack
>> Toronto/DC
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Advice for after a Fall?

[Erik]

Hey Ben.  I'm really sorry to hear about the accident!  I went through this 
back in January after another cyclist rammed into me head-on.  I was riding 
my Appaloosa.  I crashed really hard.  The initial impact with the other 
cyclist damaged my brake lever and bars.  The subsequent crash into the 
ground and skidding along the road damaged my rear derailer and derailer 
hangar.  It likewise damaged my shifter and other brake lever.  My saddle 
was scuffed up as well.  The front basket ended up taking the brunt of the 
impact, but the front rack (a big ol' Nitto) was a bit bent as well.  The 
housing on my Edulux light was scraped up but still worked.  In the end, I 
think the basket / rack took the brunt of the impact on the fall and likely 
protected the bike from worse damage.

I posted about it here asking a similar questions.  I took everyone's 
advice and brought my bike into a local shop with mechanics I trust to get 
the whole thing inspected.   I do all of my own wrenching, but I felt it 
was important for my future safety to get the whole thing thoroughly 
inspected.  They looked at everything in great detail including frame 
alignment.   No fork or frame misalignment, but I had dents and chips in 
the frame from the impact with the ground.  The wheels were good.  They 
wrote up an estimate for me for insurance and for the court (about $1300 
with a new paint job at D Cycles).   I ended up just eating the dents and 
paint chips without getting them fixed, but replaced the handlebars, brake 
levers, shift levers, rear derailer.  I was able to bend the basket back 
into shape and get the rack re-aligned myself.  I also did a minor 
correction to the rear derailer hanger.  I put some pretty orange Testor's 
model paint on the chipped areas. 

These bikes are pretty tough.  Steel, after all.  But I'm really glad I had 
it inspected by a good mechanic and had them write up a total repair 
estimate.  I've just recently been able to start riding again after healing 
from my injuries and I feel pretty confident with the safety of the bike.   
I cracked my helmet in the accident too.  I've replaced it with a Giro 
Caden in matte gray.   

Good luck!  

 

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[RBW] Re: New Bars on the Appaloosa

[Erik]

I just went out and tweaked the angle into the recommended range.  It's 
interesting in that it brought the loop in the front up a bit, putting it 
into a more comfortable, upright spot for stretching out. Thanks for the 
tip! 

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 6:23:57 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

>
>
> Jeff Jones recommends the bars be setup with a downward angle of 10-15 
> degrees (he specifically notes 11 degrees but gives a suggested range) and 
> I found that suggestion to work really well.  I can see that you have have 
> some downward angle on your bar, but it's hard to tell from these photos 
> how much.  As an experiment, you might tilt them down a few more degrees 
> and see how it feels.  Sort of like Grant's start with the saddle too high 
> and work your way down to the perfect height approach.  I did this and 
> there was definately a specific "sweet spot" for me.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Soma Shikoro 700c x 38mm actual size?

[Erik]

I can confirm that my 700c x 38mm Shikoro tires are 35mm on Velocity A23 
rims.   I only have about 100 miles on them at this point, however.  

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 10:55:27 AM UTC-7 Jeffery S wrote:

>
> Is anyone running these?
>
> This review (
> https://www.cxmagazine.com/soma-fab-shikoro-road-gravel-tire-38c-panaracer) 
> says they run a few mm under size on 17.5 ID rims, but I'm wondering if 
> they expand with more miles on them.
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Re: [RBW] What draws you to a single speed bike?

[Erik Wright]

Hey Roberta,

I'm also in Philly and popped a ss/fixed gear into my rotation in February 
2020. I've dabbled in fixed gear riding twice before this over the past 10 
years, so for me I think a piece of it is nostalgia. I agree with what 
folks are saying about the simplicity of having one gear. I find I just 
think about my riding less when I don't have the option to shift. Go 
faster? Pedal faster. Going uphill? Stand up.

Two other pieces for me are variety and perpetual tinkering ("what *other* kind 
of bike could I ride?"). I got this bike (Mercier Kilo WT) mainly as a 
winter bike, and it's fully fender-able and accommodates a pretty wide tire 
(50mm max). It's not a zippy, race-y fixie like a lot of people like to 
ride; it's just about as heavy as the rest of my bikes, but I like it. 
Grant talked about this in a recent Blahg about their upcoming fixed/ss 
model, but I like how the momentum of riding fixed carries you through the 
undulations of the road.

I used to work in Roxborough (for non-Philly folks: a hilly northwestern 
part of the city) and felt I'd never be able to get up to my office with 
only one gear. In late 2019 we moved our office down here to South Philly 
(flat) so I thought it was an appropriate time to add one to the rotation 
as a "bop around town" kind of bike. Whenever I head into West Philly the 
hills are just a refreshing challenge, but that's the case whether I have 
gears or not.

Thinking about Will's recommendation, I think when compared to your Joe 
Appa and Homer, a single speed would likely be a lighter bike that just 
requires less thought. Just a nice bike to add in there to add some variety 
in your riding experience.

Erik, Philly

On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 9:19:17 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> Central Ohio, where I ride, is mostly flattish, so riding single speed 
> adds some challenge to my rides. And I like to ride fixed gear, which IS 
> different than just riding a geared bike in one gear. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sunday, April 18, 2021, Roberta  wrote:
>
>> I am truly curious.  How is it different than just not shifting?  How is 
>> it more fun?  When I was looking for a second Riv, Will (at Riv) suggested 
>> their single speed (I didn't do it).
>>
>> I had a 49 lb Raleigh LTD-3 for a few months prior to Riv, which had been 
>> converted it to a single speed.   I rode the bike around downtown for 
>> errands.  It was tons of fun, but Philadelphia is flat downtown, so SS was 
>> OK. I'd be concerned about any hills.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
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[RBW] Re: brake levers on albastache bars

[Erik Wright]

I just snagged some of those levers as well and mounted them on some 
Noodles. The inserts are to adjust the angle of the lever/hoods in relation 
to the bar. On a drop bar, they change how much the hoods tilt back towards 
you vs how far forward they tilt. They came in pretty handy with the Noodle 
bars I installed them on, because the curve of the Noodle's bend to the 
drops is much different than, say, a more modern ergo bar with a sharper 
angled bend. The inserts allowed my to set the levers up with a flat 
bar-to-hood position. I agree that they were very difficult to mount with 
the inserts inside the levers- not sure why this is. Once they were past 
the end of the bar, they moved smoothly. I just kinda muscled them on there 
with the clamp fully loose.

Strange to explain without images, and maybe that's all gibberish. Google 
didn't turn up much image-wise, but on an Albastache I'd recommend leaving 
the inserts aside. They seem more necessary when top-of-the-hoods is a 
riding position; less so on an Albastache where the levers are turned 
sideways.

Erik, Philly

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 4:21:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I like to mount them with the ends of the levers a smidge inside of the 
> plane of the grips, such that if you learned the bar flat against a wall 
> the levers wouldn't touch it. 
>
> For symmetry you can get one lever mounted, then get a piece of masking 
> tape cut to the exact length from the inside of the hood to the stem. Move 
> that piece over to the other side and slide your lever on to the same spot. 
> Not sure about getting them positioned at the same level..maybe use a tape 
> measure from the floor to the lever? 
>
> I can't help with the inserts, sorry. Maybe you can post a pic?
>
> Joe "my wrists can't ride these bars but they sure look cool" Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 1:06:11 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi, I was hoping to tap in on this group's knowledge yet again. I am 
>> mounting TRP road-brake levers on Albastache bars. My questions are as 
>> follows:
>>
>> 1.  Does anyone have a recommended location on the bar to mount them? I 
>> understand that I should mount them wherever comfortable, but I'm hoping 
>> someone can just tell me a reasonable place to mount them, and if it works 
>> for most, it'll probably work for me.
>>
>> 2. Having identified the right place to mount them, how do I make sure 
>> that they are exactly symmetrical, as I am OCD about handlebar issues?
>>
>> 3.  These levers come with a plastic insert. I couldn't figure out what 
>> to do with the inserts, as I can't even get the levers on to the bars if I 
>> leave them in there. Am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Thanks as always for any information.
>>
>> Jim S.
>>
>>

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