Re: [RBW] Re: f/s - Grip King pedals with spikes

2015-04-06 Thread cyclotourist
I should say that she was merely commenting that her current pedals were
not working out for her as she hoped.
Not so much complaining. :-)

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Andy Williams awilliam...@gmail.com wrote:

 As we say in my family, 'you don't have everything unless you have
 something to complain about!'

 Andy

 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 7:45:33 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife was just complaining about how her feet were slipping off the MKS
 BMX pedals. Now she'll need to worry about gashing her shins with these
 pins!!!

 On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 all done here
  thanks !!!


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 8:08:14 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 ok, throwing these back up - $35 including priority mail (and the spare
 spikes)

 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 3:40:40 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 Offering a set of Grip Kings that I've added 20 spikes - 5 each side,
 3 front, 2 rear.
 Not perfect, they've hit the ground a couple of times, but still very
 good pedals.
 Will include 12 more spikes for mods or replacements.
 $40 including USPS Priority mail.
 Thanks !

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Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-05 Thread cyclotourist
I was just out swapping handlebars (thanks Hugh!) and had to pull a Wald
basket to do it. I noticed that the stays on this basket are definitely
different than the ones on the bike that collapsed on me. Those stays had a
much larger (~four inch) flat section with multiple hub drillings on the
end of them. That's where it buckled on me. The newer kind that I was just
looking at have a solid curved stay all the way down to the single hole at
the end. I'm presuming they are much stronger.

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can vouch for the truth that the Wald Newsboy doesn't sway; it's very
 secure. As to how the bike handles with such a basket on it, with load,
 that depends on the bike. I once put one on a Schwinn World Tour and loaded
 it with 2 cinderblocks, which fit very well in respect of volume. I
 actually managed to ride the bike a block before quitting in terror --
 simply keeping the rear wheel on the ground was hard. But the basket didn't
 sway; the problem was grossly biased weight distribution and horrible
 things done to the steering.

 On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:57 AM, ian m darkgizz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will, how is sway from a heavy loaded front basket a function of bicycle
 geometry? Seems to me it's more a function of the way the basket attaches
 to the bicycle, which are two points near the stem and two point at the
 front axle, which doesn't make for a particularly laterally stiff design.

 Similar to the American newsboys of yesteryear, the French porteur's
 carried heavy loads of newspapers on the front of their bicycles, but with
 stiffer steel racks. In my experience a heavy load on a one of these racks
 is much easier to handle with all other aspects (wheel strength, pneumatic
 cushion) remaining the same. A basket attached to the rack as on the
 Hunqapillar recently posted on Riv Blug is like the best of both worlds,
 especially since heavier loads can be attached by pannier closer to the
 front wheel's axle.

 On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-7, Will wrote:

 Not my experience. We routinely carried between 65-70 newspapers in the
 Wald front delivery baskets. And loaded the back baskets on Sundays when
 the papers were twice as large and heavy. Never a problem. Swaying is a
 function of bicycle geometry, wheel strength (spokes+dish), and pneumatic
 cushion. Our paper bikes looked a lot like these...

 http://www.worksmancycles.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/indbikes.html

 When you look at the industrial newsboy you will note both baskets
 (front and back) are angled towards the frame center. You will also note
 the head and seat tube angles and chain stay length. That's the way to keep
 load distribution inside of the axles. If the balance point creeps outside
 the axle, you have major vibration issues. The bike shimmies, wobbles, and
 is hard to steer.


 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 12:54:16 PM UTC-5, ian m wrote:

 Loaded up with a couple grocery bags those Wald baskets will sway back
 and forth in front of you like a drunk tourist on a fishing boat. Ziptied
 to a solid and stable rack there is zero movement and handling feels good.
 That's my experience anyway

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:16:26 AM UTC-7, Will wrote:

 You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on
 my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. 
 I
 cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or
 durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred.

 http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-
 8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front
 rack and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter
 too often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the
 porter rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of
 porter racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise
 excellent and the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, 
 and
 these things must be questioned.
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the
 whole thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. 
 So
 why is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same 
 rack.
 The same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.

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Re: [RBW] Re: f/s - Grip King pedals with spikes

2015-04-05 Thread cyclotourist
My wife was just complaining about how her feet were slipping off the MKS
BMX pedals. Now she'll need to worry about gashing her shins with these
pins!!!

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 all done here
  thanks !!!


 On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 8:08:14 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 ok, throwing these back up - $35 including priority mail (and the spare
 spikes)

 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 3:40:40 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 Offering a set of Grip Kings that I've added 20 spikes - 5 each side, 3
 front, 2 rear.
 Not perfect, they've hit the ground a couple of times, but still very
 good pedals.
 Will include 12 more spikes for mods or replacements.
 $40 including USPS Priority mail.
 Thanks !

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Re: [RBW] Hypothetical 2nd Wheelset

2015-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
If you're not really carrying much, the Synergies are probably heavy enough
to go with the Caz. That said, how about a fourth option:
-Lighter with BBShoe for fast recreational rides
-Current Synergies/dynamo with Hetres for commuting/all-roundering
-A third inexpensive front wheel (Deore/Synergy?) with a Cazadero on it for
dirt.
Then swap out from Hetre to Cazadero on the existing rear wheel. Still a
bit of a hassle, but probably won't be doing it too often. And it saves the
dynamo hub from off-road abuse it probably doesn't need.


On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might check out the PL23 or SL23 rims while they are on sale. Machined
 sidewalls but they are nice rims. Anthony at Longleaf is willing to have
 the sale rims drop shipped if you want him to build wheels.

 http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims

 Dan



 On Apr 3, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
 wrote:

 As always I am debating a 2nd wheelset as a way to avoid buying another
 bike. I'm curious as to whether I should go heavier duty or lighter duty.
 The facts:
 - Saluki
 - Current is Shimano Dynohub/XT rear to Synergies (32/36)
 - Currently splits commute duties with the SimpleOne

 Wants:
 - One wheelset for Hetres (maybe Babyshoe Pass in the future)
 - One wheelset for Cazaderos

 Should I go:
 OPTION 1
 - Synergies with Caz
 - Lighter with Hetres

 OR
 OPTION 2
 - Synergies with Hetres
 - Heavier (Atlas/VO/etc) with Caz

 OR...
 OPTION 3
 - Lighter with Babyshoe EL
 - Synergies with Hetres
 - Heavier (Atlas/VO/etc) with Caz

 I'm getting married in November so I think option 3 is probably a no-go.
 Whatever I do now would be an intermediate step towards that. Thoughts?

 -J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
I don't make a habit of overloading like that, but it does happen...

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:49 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 Be careful though. There has been at least one caseof the mini-front rack
 failing when overloaded and sending the fast-moving rider over the bars and
 to injury as the rack has hit the front wheel.

 This is the mini-front rack that's for bikes without sidepull brakes where
 the support post goes in the fork crown hole; it's not referring to the
 Mark's rack.

 The Riv recommendation is to use some strap between the rack and handlebar
 so that if it does break, it won't immediately hit the wheel.

 To be clear, this is not a report of Nitto product deficiency. It was
 loaded well above the rack's official rating. Nitto's conservatism is good,
 but nothing is limitless.

 -Jim

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:28 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Wow!  I wonder why Nitto chooses to be so ultra conservative?

 Matt

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:28:44 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 This much: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173
 :-)
 When carrying that much in the Wald, the stays buckled when I hit a bump,
 had to push the rest of the way home.
 The 32F hasn't let me down yet!

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 David,

 Help me to understand.  The rated capacity of a Nitto 32F front rack is
 4.4 lbs.  I have no idea what the weight capacity of a stock Wald basket
 is.  Are you saying roughly 5 lbs will crumple the Wald basket stays?

 Matt

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 10:25:15 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Maybe that's a heavier built version then the smaller one. The rack
 reinforcement and handlebar attachments look really solid, but the long
 stays are the weak point. They have crumpled on me, folding into the spokes
 when I overloaded a basket. Nitto 32F with a basket zipped onto it has
 never done that.

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Will waller@gmail.com wrote:

 You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on
 my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. 
 I
 cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or
 durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred.

 http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-
 8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg


 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front
 rack and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter
 too often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the
 porter rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of
 porter racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise
 excellent and the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, 
 and
 these things must be questioned.
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the
 whole thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. 
 So
 why is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same 
 rack.
 The same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-04 Thread cyclotourist
Matt, in my experience, the Wald basket stays aren't as strong as the Nitto
rack. I think you get what you pay for. Plus their handlebar mounting
clamps are kinda' kludgy (says the guy using zip ties to hold the basket
on).

FYI, Boulder has the 32F at a much better everyday price:
http://boulderbicycle.bike/Bags-and-Racks/Nitto-Racks-and-hardware/Nitto-Campee-32F-Campee-front-rack-New-Lower-Price.html


On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:27 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Jim,

 What you say makes sense.  What boggles my mind, however, is that Nitto
 rates both racks the same.  I don't have a problem using the Irish Straps.
 They look nice and add a touch of class.  I do have a problem though
 spending $140 for the rack and an additional $16 for the straps when the
 $23 basket can do the same job with the included stays.  Just saying.

 Matt

 On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 6:50:09 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

 Be careful though. There has been at least one caseof the mini-front rack
 failing when overloaded and sending the fast-moving rider over the bars and
 to injury as the rack has hit the front wheel.

 This is the mini-front rack that's for bikes without sidepull brakes
 where the support post goes in the fork crown hole; it's not referring to
 the Mark's rack.

 The Riv recommendation is to use some strap between the rack and
 handlebar so that if it does break, it won't immediately hit the wheel.

 To be clear, this is not a report of Nitto product deficiency. It was
 loaded well above the rack's official rating. Nitto's conservatism is good,
 but nothing is limitless.

 -Jim

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 4, 2015, at 5:28 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Wow!  I wonder why Nitto chooses to be so ultra conservative?

 Matt

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 8:28:44 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 This much: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173
 :-)
 When carrying that much in the Wald, the stays buckled when I hit a
 bump, had to push the rest of the way home.
 The 32F hasn't let me down yet!

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 David,

 Help me to understand.  The rated capacity of a Nitto 32F front rack is
 4.4 lbs.  I have no idea what the weight capacity of a stock Wald basket
 is.  Are you saying roughly 5 lbs will crumple the Wald basket stays?

 Matt

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 10:25:15 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Maybe that's a heavier built version then the smaller one. The rack
 reinforcement and handlebar attachments look really solid, but the long
 stays are the weak point. They have crumpled on me, folding into the 
 spokes
 when I overloaded a basket. Nitto 32F with a basket zipped onto it has
 never done that.

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Will waller@gmail.com wrote:

 You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on
 my newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy 
 haulers. I
 cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or
 durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred.

 http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-
 8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg


 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front
 rack and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter
 too often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the
 porter rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of
 porter racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise
 excellent and the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, 
 and
 these things must be questioned.
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the
 whole thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of 
 dandy-ism. So
 why is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same 
 rack.
 The same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.

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[RBW] WTT: MUSA Knickers - My large for your medium

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
I have some blue MUSA knicks, fairly well worn. Faded some, abrasion on one
knee, elastic band tied off kinda' strangely. So not new, but plenty solid.
No rips or problems like that. Would like to trade for medium, any color.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
Maybe that's a heavier built version then the smaller one. The rack
reinforcement and handlebar attachments look really solid, but the long
stays are the weak point. They have crumpled on me, folding into the spokes
when I overloaded a basket. Nitto 32F with a basket zipped onto it has
never done that.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

 You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on my
 newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. I
 cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or
 durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred.


 http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg


 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front rack
 and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter too
 often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the porter
 rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of porter
 racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise excellent and
 the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, and these things
 must be questioned.
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the whole
 thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. So why
 is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same rack. The
 same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
I bet you could justify keeping it somehow!!!

Does that large of a tire with tight clearances limit the adjustability of
the drivetrain? I see you have it set up as a true SS without a double
chainring/DOS freewheel sort of arrangement.



On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the kind words.

 The tires barely fit in there. But wow are they a comfortable ride!

 The TT is effectively a bit higher due the large sidewall of these tires.

 Someone buy this guy! I can't ride 10 bikes!


 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 9:27:46 PM UTC-4, Hobo wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_QjnTZal1I/VRwKMsiV0II/AKk/xQV4doggx5E/s1600/GQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_QjnTZal1I/VRwKMsiV0II/AKk/xQV4doggx5E/s1600/GQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gq7xopjLqtA/VBtO3-0zg_I/AHQ/SJwJbCewVYY/s1600/GQB9.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I5QrzgTVPlw/VBtO1ivqDgI/AHI/HS05eoLgETI/s1600/GQB8.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vYX6V4sQdD4/VBtOw5ZUfjI/AHA/vpMMuIc4Gvc/s1600/GQB7.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0uHaHJ7iRss/VBtOuRdcV1I/AG4/5Wm1DVTiBno/s1600/GQB5.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ucxbxjTsyqA/VBtOsbqnx9I/AGw/MVld6RgKA-0/s1600/GQB4.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CnW3Rc6kn-I/VBtOlj4pj4I/AGo/oozPUYr36Hg/s1600/GQB3.JPG

 Up for sale is my second Quickbeam. Shes a beaut!

 Parts shown:
 Frame: Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm
 Wheels: Phil Wood High Flange anodized orange laced to Velocity rims w/
 White Industries 20t freewheel.
 Tires: Schwalbe Big Apple 29x2 (10 miles)
 Bars: Nitto Albatross
 Stem: Nitto
 Brakes: Tektro FL750
 Brakes: Shimano Deore XT (Ritchey pads)
 Crankset: Campagnolo C-Record w/ Salsa 42t ring
 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Honey

 Does not come with pedals or bell

 If the buyer wants, I can swap out the tires and put brand new Pasela 37s.

 Price: $1500
 Shipping: $75
 Located in Chattanooga, TN

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTT: MUSA Knickers - My large for your medium

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
No, not so lucky as that... they've always been too big. In fact I'm
probably fitting them better than when I go them... :-)

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 See?  If you wore Rapha you could trade them in for 50% off a smaller
 size.  Then again you would have paid a lot more in the first place...

 But, seriously, good job if you are getting thinner and like it.


 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 10:38:21 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have some blue MUSA knicks, fairly well worn. Faded some, abrasion on
 one knee, elastic band tied off kinda' strangely. So not new, but plenty
 solid. No rips or problems like that. Would like to trade for medium, any
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Re: [RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
This much: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15464068173
:-)
When carrying that much in the Wald, the stays buckled when I hit a bump,
had to push the rest of the way home.
The 32F hasn't let me down yet!

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 David,

 Help me to understand.  The rated capacity of a Nitto 32F front rack is
 4.4 lbs.  I have no idea what the weight capacity of a stock Wald basket
 is.  Are you saying roughly 5 lbs will crumple the Wald basket stays?

 Matt

 On Friday, April 3, 2015 at 10:25:15 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe that's a heavier built version then the smaller one. The rack
 reinforcement and handlebar attachments look really solid, but the long
 stays are the weak point. They have crumpled on me, folding into the spokes
 when I overloaded a basket. Nitto 32F with a basket zipped onto it has
 never done that.

 On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Will waller@gmail.com wrote:

 You could simply mount the Wald as it is manufactured. I had these on my
 newspaper bikes back in the day. They are bullet-proof, heavy haulers. I
 cannot imagine that a basket ziptied to a rack would be more stable or
 durable than this original Wald set-up. Wald is working-class cred.

 http://www.waldsports.com/waldsports/cache/file/459BD3F9-3E6A-4C02-
 8626D7A8CBA30A5A.jpg


 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:10:36 PM UTC-5, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front rack
 and a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter too
 often and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the porter
 rack is so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of porter
 racks feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise excellent and
 the maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, and these things
 must be questioned.
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the whole
 thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. So why
 is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same rack. The
 same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bar Dirt Hillborne

2015-04-03 Thread cyclotourist
An Almost-lantis!!!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:48 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 That looks just about perfect for next Saturday's Orange County
 adventure.

 dougP

 On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 4:37:50 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 A visit to RBW today brought some views of this beauty! Gave me some
 ideas on setting up my own:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/17014319985/

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16828108589/in/photostream/

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16826572688/in/photostream/



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Re: [RBW] Curious addition to the Atlantis page on rivbike.com (maybe only interesting to the kinda tall)

2015-04-02 Thread cyclotourist
You're in the unique position to be able to find out in person!!!

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 A few years ago, when the 64 cm Atlantis went away, some people took
 notice. Since then, there have been times when it's been speculated that
 you could still get a 64 even though the website says 61 is the largest.
 But I wasn't sure if it was just rumor, although there was that one picture
 of a larger Atlantis with a double top tube sometime in the past year on
 the Blug.

 Tonight I noticed for the first time that the bike's description on the
 website has a slight addition. The text description still says the bike
 maxes out at 61 cm. But now there is a geometry chart on there as well that
 shows it go to 64 cm. With the 64 cm, it specifically says two things that
 are different from the days when 64 was offered standard (made at Toyo):

 1) the chainstay is now 47 cm instead of 45.5 cm. (By the way, it still
 says 45.5 cm for the other sizes.)
 2) it specifically says the model has a double toptube.


 Since these are very specific changes, it indicates that the 64 cm listing
 in the current geometry chart is not just a misprint left there from the
 old days. So I guess this means the Atlantis 64 is back but it's officially
 different.

 -Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] New flat solution

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
To add fuel to the fire, this was posted over on the tandem list this
morning. Some of those new Compass tires would go great on our tandem, no
more worried about flats!!!
...

Here's something you might want to consider when planning your next
tandem vacation in Europe:

According to sources, German authorities are planning to introduce a new
law requiring tandems to be registered, insured and equipped with
license plates. Currently, electric assist bikes with a maximum motor
power of 250 W and a top speed of no more than 25 km/h (15 mph) are
considered bicycles while electric assist bikes with a top speed up to
45 km/h (28 mph) require insurance.

Now, testing done for the German ministry of infrastructure has revealed
that 83.6% of the stokers tested were capable of putting out more than
250 W. Furthermore, only few stokers actually ceased their power output
upon reaching 25 km/h. Under the law authorities cannot differentiate
between different types of motors, be they fueled by gasoline, batteries
or cereal. Thus, in agreement with EU legislation owners of multi-seat
bicycles will also be required to purchase insurance for their bikes.

To aid families, German authorities are planning to make an exception
for family tandems: Tandems permanently equipped with child stoker kits
or a shortened seat post will remain free.

For more details on the new regulations see

http://www.stvu.info/kennzeichenpflicht_tandems.html

Tailwinds,
Chris

P.S.: Should your single bike come with Sheldon Brown's POWerwheels you
will most likely also fall under this regulation!

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Re: [RBW] New flat solution

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
I applaud his commitment, bringing innovative products to market. This
could be revolutionary, similar to the fine products put out by ShelBroCo!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ehh... This one I'm not sure he'll be putting his money where his mouth is
 ;)
 On Apr 1, 2015 10:24 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Say what you will about Jan/BQ, he really puts his money where is mouth
 is and works to bring products to market that he believes in.

 What's frustrating is that yesterday I had a tubeless tire fail and the
 associated hassle of mounting a new one. If only this was posted one day
 earlier I would have had other options available!!!

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Check out Jan's blog post dated today. I think he's onto something solid!

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Re: [RBW] New flat solution

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
Say what you will about Jan/BQ, he really puts his money where is mouth is
and works to bring products to market that he believes in.

What's frustrating is that yesterday I had a tubeless tire fail and the
associated hassle of mounting a new one. If only this was posted one day
earlier I would have had other options available!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
My green QB had a stick on SN. It was from the first batch I believe.

I think QBs hold their value the best of any of the Rivendell frames due to
their low numbers, uniqueness and continued desirability. There is
currently no similar Rivendell frame, so you can't get the updated, tweaked
model like you could with a Glorius/Foy/Chevy. The Legolas is the other one
that falls into that unique and NLA category.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Matt B. matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mine also has a sticker S/N.If the QB fits you well and has been
 otherwise comfortable up to this point, I'd look into a SA internal gear
 hub like a fixed 3-speed, which you can just use with a freewheel.   good
 luck with it either way.




 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:24:24 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:

 my QB only has a sticker for a SN.

 IMHO, a QB (or a Rivendell in general) is not a Herse, and a QB was
 always meant as an affordable bike so i don't see this as collectible.
 Just my opinion, i'd price this like all the other QBs that have floated
 through the list and not worry too much about the provenance.

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-4, abar...@olypen.com wrote:

 I have an old Quickbeam that I am trying to get a little history on.  I
 purchased it used several years ago from a fellow who had an impressive
 stable full of spectacular bikes.  He said that he purchased it from the
 floor of a bicycle show some time around 2004.  He thought that it might be
 a prototype, but it does not have the fancy lugs that are shown on
 prototype examples in cyclofiend's website.  The trail grows cold here.
 There is no serial number stamped on the bottom bracket where I would
 expect to see it.  Only the name Rivendell is stamped into the shell.

 Did QB's have s/n's stamped like other Rivendell's?  Perhaps it is
 located in a different place?  Maybe it was on a sticker?

 I was hoping to find this information as I am considering selling this
 old friend as my knees aren't enjoying the ss experience like they once did
 and I would like to offer as much information as I can.

 Thank you, Adam.


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm SS/FG Brooks Nitto Hammered Fenders

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
I was trying to justify a third Quickbeam, but the lack of a bell is a
deal-killer! :-)

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0CNfzwWJ6fo/VRwIWACoJQI/AKA/3otPpT7ZPYc/s1600/OQB10.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rfhrxy9OADE/VRwInRUt6NI/AKI/duuEDjchTC8/s1600/OQB9.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DKtwjPh1xIc/VRwIvQZR_HI/AKQ/u2BG45Bj4Zk/s1600/OQB8.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BRgrSQpXUDE/VBsnmJpQmoI/AFY/k5RR08-ZPRA/s1600/OQB7.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FuSc1G0lloc/VBsnfCbkpnI/AFQ/ZDMlBLCSvPc/s1600/OQB5.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ziOjTDWCkHc/VBsncutVkfI/AFI/PpT6KPXfKso/s1600/OQB4.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U_FcN3hCO0k/VBsnaf9ls1I/AFA/iWpfxYBtTBs/s1600/OQB3.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JPqqF6aLtiU/VBsnYK7PrCI/AE4/esMDbdgHy_Q/s1600/OQB2.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D26kbtwqwFE/VRwITX0k1gI/AJ4/8BnAs2pvvI0/s1600/OQB11.JPG

 Up for sale is a beautiful 60cm Quickbeam.

 Just trying to sell a few of my bikes to finish some projects.


 Frame: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm
 Wheels: Mavic Open Pro w/ Suzue hubs (18t Shimano SS, 16T Dura Ace FG)
 Tires: Panaracer Pasala 35mm
 Fenders: Velo Orange Hammered (New)
 Crankset: Sugino Crank (40/34T)
 Seatpost: Nitto
 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Hand Hammered Coppper
 Stem: Nitto
 Bars: Nitto (shellac tape)
 Brakes: Shimano
 Bottle Cage: Nitto

 Does not come with pedals or bell.

 Price: $1300
 Shipping: $75
 Located in Chattanooga, TN

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
REALLY like those Big Apples! Might have to do that, although that would
mean getting rid of the fenders. They look great!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_QjnTZal1I/VRwKMsiV0II/AKk/xQV4doggx5E/s1600/GQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_QjnTZal1I/VRwKMsiV0II/AKk/xQV4doggx5E/s1600/GQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Gq7xopjLqtA/VBtO3-0zg_I/AHQ/SJwJbCewVYY/s1600/GQB9.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I5QrzgTVPlw/VBtO1ivqDgI/AHI/HS05eoLgETI/s1600/GQB8.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vYX6V4sQdD4/VBtOw5ZUfjI/AHA/vpMMuIc4Gvc/s1600/GQB7.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0uHaHJ7iRss/VBtOuRdcV1I/AG4/5Wm1DVTiBno/s1600/GQB5.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ucxbxjTsyqA/VBtOsbqnx9I/AGw/MVld6RgKA-0/s1600/GQB4.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CnW3Rc6kn-I/VBtOlj4pj4I/AGo/oozPUYr36Hg/s1600/GQB3.JPG

 Up for sale is my second Quickbeam. Shes a beaut!

 Parts shown:
 Frame: Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm
 Wheels: Phil Wood High Flange anodized orange laced to Velocity rims w/
 White Industries 20t freewheel.
 Tires: Schwalbe Big Apple 29x2 (10 miles)
 Bars: Nitto Albatross
 Stem: Nitto
 Brakes: Tektro FL750
 Brakes: Shimano Deore XT (Ritchey pads)
 Crankset: Campagnolo C-Record w/ Salsa 42t ring
 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Honey

 Does not come with pedals or bell

 If the buyer wants, I can swap out the tires and put brand new Pasela 37s.

 Price: $1500
 Shipping: $75
 Located in Chattanooga, TN

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Re: [RBW] Sam or Clem (or both) ???

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
Ohhh, that's a nice bike and price ready to go! Try with the Albastache
as-is, knowing you can move to Albatross or Boscos if still too low.
Looking at that picture, the clamp of the stem looks a good 3-4 inches
above the saddle, don't know if there's too much drop with those bars
though.
Try it and report back!!!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a big fan of my 56 Sam but I am 5'11 and 165# with an 85 pbh.  No
 problems with clearance and I even thought my seat was showing a slight
 excess of post. I can't see why you would have problems on a 55 Sam with an
 83 pbh.

 I haven't ridden it fully loaded yet but I have ridden with some
 unbalanced loads and noticed a little flex.  The tubes on the Clem sound
 like they are stouter than the Sam which may or may not be an issue at
 300#.  Riv could probably clarify both issues.

 The Clem is cool but so is that discounted 55cm Albastache Sam in the web
 specials.  $150 bucks off vs. $300 off!  Can't see how you could go wrong
 with either.

 Good luck deciding.
 John

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm SS/FG Brooks Nitto Hammered Fenders

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
JW's Rivendell Bicycle Delivery Service, at my beck and call!!!

Now where was that Legolas that was for sale...

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 Well, I am in the Bay Area, so if any come up...

 (no April 1 joke there)



 On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:24 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 Barely...

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
 wrote:


 Well, I am in Tennessee right now David. I could drive it back for you...


 This is still April 1, right?


 On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:10 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I was trying to justify a third Quickbeam, but the lack of a bell is a
 deal-killer! :-)

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0CNfzwWJ6fo/VRwIWACoJQI/AKA/3otPpT7ZPYc/s1600/OQB10.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rfhrxy9OADE/VRwInRUt6NI/AKI/duuEDjchTC8/s1600/OQB9.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DKtwjPh1xIc/VRwIvQZR_HI/AKQ/u2BG45Bj4Zk/s1600/OQB8.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BRgrSQpXUDE/VBsnmJpQmoI/AFY/k5RR08-ZPRA/s1600/OQB7.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FuSc1G0lloc/VBsnfCbkpnI/AFQ/ZDMlBLCSvPc/s1600/OQB5.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ziOjTDWCkHc/VBsncutVkfI/AFI/PpT6KPXfKso/s1600/OQB4.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U_FcN3hCO0k/VBsnaf9ls1I/AFA/iWpfxYBtTBs/s1600/OQB3.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JPqqF6aLtiU/VBsnYK7PrCI/AE4/esMDbdgHy_Q/s1600/OQB2.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D26kbtwqwFE/VRwITX0k1gI/AJ4/8BnAs2pvvI0/s1600/OQB11.JPG

 Up for sale is a beautiful 60cm Quickbeam.

 Just trying to sell a few of my bikes to finish some projects.


 Frame: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm
 Wheels: Mavic Open Pro w/ Suzue hubs (18t Shimano SS, 16T Dura Ace FG)
 Tires: Panaracer Pasala 35mm
 Fenders: Velo Orange Hammered (New)
 Crankset: Sugino Crank (40/34T)
 Seatpost: Nitto
 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Hand Hammered Coppper
 Stem: Nitto
 Bars: Nitto (shellac tape)
 Brakes: Shimano
 Bottle Cage: Nitto

 Does not come with pedals or bell.

 Price: $1300
 Shipping: $75
 Located in Chattanooga, TN


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Re: [RBW] Re: Would you take the lane?

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, the three fingers was probably the only thing wrong in the
situation.

And what is it with white pickups? Our local elementary has a bike train of
kids going in. One day a white pickup driver (possibly the same one as
yours, he must get around) freaked out, and starting cussing out one of the
adults. This was with his wife and kids sitting in the truck (he was
dropping off kids at school).

I'm starting a petition to ban white trucks.

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 1st off, you did the right thing taking the lane in that situation.

 When I'm on my game, I try to follow the golden rule, to avoid road rage,
 don't engage. Sometimes easier said then done. Good idea to always keep
 both hands on the bars, least someone confuses your gesture. I smile when
 someone does the right thing and I shake my head left to right when they
 don't.

 JohnS


 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 6:27:55 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 On this afternoon's grocery run (5 miles up the pass empty, 5 down
 loaded) I got yelled at for the first time. Looking for ideas on where to
 ride through an area that:

 -- 2 lane, no shoulder
 -- school zone with stop signs every block for a while
 -- school is letting out, high school, with elementary kids still on the
 sidewalks with crossing guards.
 -- stead climb for me, so I'm not fast
 -- high school kid's cars parked on the right, so car doors can open at
 any time.

 I took the lane and it went fine until a guy in a truck squeezed by with
 barely any room. His windows were down so I politely held up three fingers
 and said three feet of clearance please! He pulled over into an empty
 parking place, I went wide around him. Then he pulled out several cars
 later and was stuck behind be until I turned left further up the road. Poor
 guy was still yelling as he continued on his way.

 My plan is to handle this the same way in the future, unless the wisdom
 of this groups helps me see a better way. All ideas welcome! Thanks.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam 58CM Green Machine Phil Wood Hubs Brooks Nitto

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
I'm so going there! I have some Marathon Supremes getting fairly worn down.
Love 'em, but they're a bit skinny @ 37mm. As I mentioned, I would have to
give up fenders, which 95% of the time isn't a problem. Nice having them
though, and I have a wired fender mounted light I would have to deal with.
That's the bigger concern!

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 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:18:25 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 How in the world did you find 2 to fit in there?


 It's a squeeze but it's been done on other Qb's.


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm SS/FG Brooks Nitto Hammered Fenders

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
Barely...

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:10 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 Well, I am in Tennessee right now David. I could drive it back for you...


 This is still April 1, right?


 On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:10 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I was trying to justify a third Quickbeam, but the lack of a bell is a
 deal-killer! :-)

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Hobo antiqueapert...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0CNfzwWJ6fo/VRwIWACoJQI/AKA/3otPpT7ZPYc/s1600/OQB10.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rfhrxy9OADE/VRwInRUt6NI/AKI/duuEDjchTC8/s1600/OQB9.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DKtwjPh1xIc/VRwIvQZR_HI/AKQ/u2BG45Bj4Zk/s1600/OQB8.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BRgrSQpXUDE/VBsnmJpQmoI/AFY/k5RR08-ZPRA/s1600/OQB7.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FuSc1G0lloc/VBsnfCbkpnI/AFQ/ZDMlBLCSvPc/s1600/OQB5.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ziOjTDWCkHc/VBsncutVkfI/AFI/PpT6KPXfKso/s1600/OQB4.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U_FcN3hCO0k/VBsnaf9ls1I/AFA/iWpfxYBtTBs/s1600/OQB3.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JPqqF6aLtiU/VBsnYK7PrCI/AE4/esMDbdgHy_Q/s1600/OQB2.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SJxcjTfKpBc/VRwJEFLTySI/AKY/Q4qeCnDI-X4/s1600/OQB1.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D26kbtwqwFE/VRwITX0k1gI/AJ4/8BnAs2pvvI0/s1600/OQB11.JPG

 Up for sale is a beautiful 60cm Quickbeam.

 Just trying to sell a few of my bikes to finish some projects.


 Frame: Rivendell Quickbeam 60cm
 Wheels: Mavic Open Pro w/ Suzue hubs (18t Shimano SS, 16T Dura Ace FG)
 Tires: Panaracer Pasala 35mm
 Fenders: Velo Orange Hammered (New)
 Crankset: Sugino Crank (40/34T)
 Seatpost: Nitto
 Saddle: Brooks B17 Special Hand Hammered Coppper
 Stem: Nitto
 Bars: Nitto (shellac tape)
 Brakes: Shimano
 Bottle Cage: Nitto

 Does not come with pedals or bell.

 Price: $1300
 Shipping: $75
 Located in Chattanooga, TN


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Re: [RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
True, but the Legolas still seems to have some uniqueness to it. Maybe the
off-menu ordering adds to the mystique!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Legolas is still available off-book because of trademark issues with
 the Tolkein title.

 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 9:15:00 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:


 And I dare say the cantilevered Romulus. Although that one came by
 accident. Somewhat similar to the Legolas, but with a slightly lower BB.


 On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:59 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 My green QB had a stick on SN. It was from the first batch I believe.

 I think QBs hold their value the best of any of the Rivendell frames due
 to their low numbers, uniqueness and continued desirability. There is
 currently no similar Rivendell frame, so you can't get the updated, tweaked
 model like you could with a Glorius/Foy/Chevy. The Legolas is the other one
 that falls into that unique and NLA category.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Matt B. matthi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mine also has a sticker S/N.If the QB fits you well and has been
 otherwise comfortable up to this point, I'd look into a SA internal gear
 hub like a fixed 3-speed, which you can just use with a freewheel.   good
 luck with it either way.




 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:24:24 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:

 my QB only has a sticker for a SN.

 IMHO, a QB (or a Rivendell in general) is not a Herse, and a QB was
 always meant as an affordable bike so i don't see this as collectible.
 Just my opinion, i'd price this like all the other QBs that have floated
 through the list and not worry too much about the provenance.

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-4, abar...@olypen.com
 wrote:

 I have an old Quickbeam that I am trying to get a little history on.
 I purchased it used several years ago from a fellow who had an impressive
 stable full of spectacular bikes.  He said that he purchased it from the
 floor of a bicycle show some time around 2004.  He thought that it might 
 be
 a prototype, but it does not have the fancy lugs that are shown on
 prototype examples in cyclofiend's website.  The trail grows cold here.
 There is no serial number stamped on the bottom bracket where I would
 expect to see it.  Only the name Rivendell is stamped into the shell.

 Did QB's have s/n's stamped like other Rivendell's?  Perhaps it is
 located in a different place?  Maybe it was on a sticker?

 I was hoping to find this information as I am considering selling this
 old friend as my knees aren't enjoying the ss experience like they once 
 did
 and I would like to offer as much information as I can.

 Thank you, Adam.



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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
I totally ignored this thread up until I saw Liesl refer to it in another
post... wow, I've been missing out!!!



On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
wrote:

 I have a really good joke about this thread coming back after 3 days but
 I'll just keep it to myself.


 Oh, shit.

 -Justin, agnostic to helmets and gods in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-04-01 Thread cyclotourist
Love this place!

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
wrote:

 Hey Richard-
 I have some 55cm aluminum Boscos that I will ship to you if wanted.
 Gratis. Feel like it's worth it to pay it forward in the name of the group,
 also my karma could use some shining.

 Let me know if you're interested.

 -J, Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

2015-03-31 Thread cyclotourist
Everything including the kitchen sink!

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Perhaps there should be a Bike-in-Kitchen Demerit Badge a la cyclotourist!
 It still makes me laugh.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread cyclotourist
I purchased a seatpost from him in December. There was no communication for
about a month, then I emailed a few times. He said it must have been lost,
but that he had another one that he would send, and that came about a week
later IIRC.

So I can say that he delivered what I bought, and AAFAIK he delivered to
everyone else, but it did take approximately a month with poor
communication.


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-6, drew beckmeyer wrote:


 To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to finally
 get your items or your money back?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

2015-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
I tend to favor the kitchen it seems:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2406321019

Not so good for taking a nap, but snacks are handy.



On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Melanie myol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, I don't know.  The bedroom is the place for Rivs!
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/7563204@N05/16856700776/

 On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:19:58 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 I say not only store your bike in the living room, but work on it there,
 too!  It's way more pleasant!

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Re: [RBW] Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

2015-03-30 Thread cyclotourist
Apparently next year we'll need a thumbtack badge:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205447607581788set=p.10205447607581788type=1theater

:-(

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 Thanks, Liesl! Such a pleasure.
 Bill - I'll do that, thanks for the heads up.
 Doug - they really do ward off punctures, don't they?

 Philip
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Re: [RBW] security

2015-03-29 Thread cyclotourist
Snob isn't a fan:

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2014/05/simplification-by-complification.html

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2015/03/keylessness-is-close-to-cluelessness.html

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 7:08 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was looking for a lock for my Atlantis for exactly the same reasons, and
 my LBS attendant told me about this new option that is coming out soon and
 they are trying to carry: Skylock. http://skylock.cc

 Don't know about its sturdiness, but if moved or bumped or messed with, it
 will send a warning to your iPhone so you can come out to check it.

 I think I may pre-order one for the piece of mind. I'll probably still
 combine it with other stuff for the reasons stated here.

 What also makes me nervous is the risk of theft of the racks or bags...

 René


 On Sunday, March 29, 2015, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a big fan of the Hiplock, i got the lite version from REI and have a
 review posted there. Easy to carry since you wear it (barely noticeable,
 though that raises questions of damage it may cause if you crash). Hard to
 cut (need an electric grinder). And its long enough to go through at least
 one wheel and the frame. Not both wheels though, unless you want to remove
 the front wheel and lock it w/ the back wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-29 Thread cyclotourist
Ha! Yes, you're totally correct. I only mention Surly as their otherwise
great bikes seem to have that one error. And it's not a QBP thing as Salsa
has relatively tall headtubes on even their racey bikes like the Warbird.
I'm sure there's a reason for it it, probably that it's easier to add
spacers but you can't take it away.

As for threadless question... I'm moving pretty strongly into the prefer
threadless camp. It seems like a pretty good change away from a good but
fiddly design to something that works well for me. Open face stems alone
make it worthwhile!


On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote:

 29ers are even worse. There are a lot of XL 29ers out there with a
 100~110mm head tube. It's ridiculous. To get the bars at saddle height, us
 tall folks will need 50-80mm of spacers, which looks dorky.

 Eric

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I wish Surly would have proportionately taller head tubes on their bikes.
 They are across the board 20-30mm too short IMHO. The 60cm Crosscheck for
 example has a 160mm headtube. To my way of thinking, that should be 190mm.
 180 would be a good compromise. Then you could get rid of 30mm of spacers
 on the steerer, which would help it look cleaner and less hacky.
 I guess they don't want to alienate the 'Slam dat stem' crowd... :-)

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and
 how much they are cut depends on the manufacturer.  Generally it's rare to
 have more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper.  In fact, the
 fork is usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install
 the stem and assure proper headset adjustment.  I usually like to move the
 stem to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for
 rise).

 The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every
 size coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer
 uncut and without the star nut not pressed in.  When I was service manager
 at a shop, I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes.
 However, that does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't
 understand how threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their
 bars that high.  Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a
 critical part of bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack,
 and if they test ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved
 by the extra spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the
 solar plexus. So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them
 uncut.

 Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems
 but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior.  With
 steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the
 bars above the headset.  In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid
 with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is
 far easier.  Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving
 Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more
 deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler.

 With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much
 more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem.  I'm sure
 different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want
 to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max.



 On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless
 floor model road bikes when assembling?

 Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go
 by? Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models?

 My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than
 usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill
 stems.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-29 Thread cyclotourist
It captured the feel nicely :-)

Hugh's set:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157651110302400

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:49 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 Thanks David!

 The link to Philip's photos is a bit startling!


 On Mar 28, 2015, at 9:56 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot
 somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs  leather crowd pretty
 nicely!

 Paul's:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/

 Hugh's:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/

 Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/

 Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831

 Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/

 Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with
 bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa!

 These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the
 Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride:

 *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/*

 Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist)
 Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single
 track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails:

 *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/*

 David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on
 very short notice! Thanks Holly!

 Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his
 Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That
 hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to
 have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen
 along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to
 mountain bikes. Fun for all.

 Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy!
 I came back with a farmer's tan!

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.


 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great
 host, we had gourmet pizza  craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We
 had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his
 brother in laws A.A.H. and  Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker
 Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim,
 Estaban  Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short
 so others can fill in any details I miss.

 Here's some images:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-28 Thread cyclotourist
I think I have all the albums compiled here... let me know if I forgot
somebody! These show the perspective of the lugs  leather crowd pretty
nicely!

Paul's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/


Hugh's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/


Esteban's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/16929993845/


Jim's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831


Mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157651165005667/


Philip's: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/16716596259/

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hey all,

 I made my annual trip from Va. to L.A. to see my sister and ride with
 bro-in-law, Ian - and of course do a repeat of the Strada Rossa!

 These two albums are from Ian's and my ride last Saturday doing the
 Redlands Inland Empire Biking Alliance mixed-surface 50k / 100k group ride:

 *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649271649764/*

 Our Sunday post-ride ride was as much fun, thanks to David (cyclotourist)
 Estes giving up his day to guide us through Redlands and up to the single
 track riding in the Crafton Hills Trails:

 *https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/sets/72157649295487053/*

 David's wife, Holly and family treated us to a great lunch after - on very
 short notice! Thanks Holly!

 Ian rode his Rivendell Atlantis with fat Smart Sams and I rode his
 Rivendell Homer Hilsen (one size too large) with Schwable Dureme's. That
 hard packed stuff was not a problem on those stout bikes. I was glad to
 have plenty of east coast single tracking experience though! Bikes seen
 along the way ranged from carbon fiber CX bikes, to all-steel like ours, to
 mountain bikes. Fun for all.

 Great fun both days, but that California sun is hard on a east-coast guy!
 I came back with a farmer's tan!

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.


 On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 2:08:57 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 We had another great ride out in cyclotourist country. David was a great
 host, we had gourmet pizza  craft beer. The day of the ride was superb! We
 had Paul Germain visiting from Virginia for the second year riding his
 brother in laws A.A.H. and  Ian on his custom red Atlantis, Biketinker
 Phillip came down from Northern Cal with Jacquie Phelan representing. Jim,
 Estaban  Aaron were seen climbing some awesome single track. This is short
 so others can fill in any details I miss.

 Here's some images:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/with/16285457244/

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread cyclotourist
I wish Surly would have proportionately taller head tubes on their bikes.
They are across the board 20-30mm too short IMHO. The 60cm Crosscheck for
example has a 160mm headtube. To my way of thinking, that should be 190mm.
180 would be a good compromise. Then you could get rid of 30mm of spacers
on the steerer, which would help it look cleaner and less hacky.
I guess they don't want to alienate the 'Slam dat stem' crowd... :-)

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how
 much they are cut depends on the manufacturer.  Generally it's rare to have
 more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper.  In fact, the fork is
 usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the
 stem and assure proper headset adjustment.  I usually like to move the stem
 to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for
 rise).

 The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size
 coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and
 without the star nut not pressed in.  When I was service manager at a shop,
 I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes.  However, that
 does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how
 threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that
 high.  Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of
 bike buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test
 ride the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra
 spacer stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus.
 So, there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut.

 Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems
 but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior.  With
 steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the
 bars above the headset.  In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid
 with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is
 far easier.  Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving
 Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more
 deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler.

 With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much
 more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem.  I'm sure
 different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want
 to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max.



 On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless
 floor model road bikes when assembling?

 Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by?
 Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models?

 My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than
 usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill
 stems.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem

2015-03-28 Thread cyclotourist
That's an awesome overlay!

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Zed Martinez iamzedmarti...@gmail.com
wrote:


 The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way
 upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it
 wont be quick doing those things.
 Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar


 I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But,
 I keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only
 thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just
 that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much
 identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to
 tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from
 measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest
 difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer
 chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the
 reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike
 built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike
 converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite
 the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think
 just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible
 for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little
 more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I
 don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a
 longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I
 compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq.

 I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If
 both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same
 pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should
 be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable
 sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as
 they are.

 http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: f/s Thomson Masterpiece 27.2 x 240mm zero offset seatpost

2015-03-28 Thread cyclotourist
Delivered today, thanks! That thing is freaky-light! Love having it on my
Salsa as I can get away with the scarring. Too much beasuage for a Riv! :-)

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 done here - thanks !


 On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 5:53:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 This is a good deal for someone willing to live with a scarred post - no
 burrs or rough spots, but has some nasty lighting bolts and vertical lines
 in the finish.
 Had it on my Moser road bike and it should have worked, but continued to
 squat on me, and got marked up having to pull it back up on the side of the
 road.
 (Finally solved that problem with a Super Record quill post.)
 Tried using this on a new bike, where it clamped Perfectly, but that bike
 badly needed offset.
 This is the lightest alloy seatpost made, all one-piece machined (nothing
 pressed), and weighs a published 157g (lighter than some carbon posts)
 http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=seatposts
 Max height is 175mm
 Nominal new price is $150, best new price is $120 incl shipping.
 I'll sell this one for $45 including priority mail.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/post.jpg

 please reply offline
 thanks for looking

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Re: [RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

2015-03-26 Thread cyclotourist
Sounds like took some damage yourself, David :-( I hope you are able to
recover quickly, both mentally and physically, from this trauma. Just awful
to read...

I'd go straight to Mark Nobilette:
http://www.coloradoframebuilders.com/nobilette/

But if you want to stay on the east coast, can't go wrong w/ Bilenky as
mentioned.





On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


   I've been happy with work done by Jack Trumbull , the one man operation
 called Franklin Frames for both repair and a custom in Ohio .  It's best to
 call him really as he's a wealth of knowledge, he's been making frames and
 repairing/aligning them for some 35+ years :)

 http://www.franklinframe.com/

I would not be concerned at all about sending it to Riv at all.  My
 Bombadil was quite messed up and he fixed it up and painted it as good as
 new :) He has a digital alignment table that is well of course, super
 accurate .

 Riv is not a frame building/repair shop btw, they would give it to
 whomever they contract with to do such work.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-25 Thread cyclotourist
It was practically an Entmoot!
I think the 50k could be done with a QB fine, presuming you have a high and
low gear to swap into. The 40X19 and a 32X19 regular gears I have on mine
can handle it all... but, I'd still be going slow and having to stop and
change gears a lot. I was considering riding mine, but I had a strange
headache that morning, and figured gears would make the morning much more
pleasant. I think singlespeeds are great when you're solo, or riding with
other singlespeed riders, but when you're the only one in a group of
gear-swappers, not as much :-)



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 QB1@0:32. We bookended the video!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-25 Thread cyclotourist
Jim, thanks so much for that! Glad you were able to backtrack and meet up
w/ Doug and Robert. And then go on your excellent adventure with them!

The whole intention of this event was to showcase the mixed-surface riding
we have, and to you know, have a good time!

Success on both fronts!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:44 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
wrote:


 RSR was amazing, everyone! Huge thank you to Cyclotourist David for
 organizing, for promoting, and for hosting several of us. And to Holly
 Estes, of course! There was a lot of buildup to the weekend, giving me big
 expectations, and it still was even better than I was expecting. Highlights:

 1) Seeing so many of my friends.
 2) Making several new friends.
 3) Driving through rush hour Los Angeles Friday, and actually enjoying a
 3:45 drive, because I knew what was waiting at the end of it. (Great
 company, Redlands Gourmet Pizza Shoppe, and a Saturday mixed surface ride.)
 Having Hugh there to order beer before I arrived. Thanks Hugh!
 4) Arriving at the exact same time as Ian, and seeing two of Ian's Rivs
 get used at the same time and meeting his brother-in-law Paul from Virginia
 who was riding Ian's AHH. Fun to get to know Paul.
 4A) David's breakfast! Soyrizo, Eggs, Bacon, and coffee.
 5) Single-track climbing on a Riv
 6) Sharing a nice rest-stop conversation with Aaron. Talked some future
 rides with Esteban and others.
 7) Seeing pre-teenagers like Jake just killing it on the trails. One of
 the best climbers out there.
 8) Connecting with Bay Area folks, Philip and Jacquie. Great patches, Phil!
 9) Another fun time riding with Doug and Ian and meeting Robert for the
 first time. Cool Bruce Gordon BLT Robert had!
 10) Marveling at Robert's brilliance at getting us unlost when we were
 fenced in. He saw orange grove adjacent to power plant on the smartphone
 map and figured there had to be a fence hole at their interface. And he was
 right!
 11) Hangar 24 to celebrate with Doug, Ian, and Robert! Thanks again, Ian!
 12) Sitting there at Hangar 24 with our beers, we saw a new-to-us Hilsen
 guy ride by.
 13) We continued our ride and the Hilsen guy was fixing a flat. He had the
 bike flipped over on the ground. I rolled up and said, Pasadena style? He
 looked over and laughed. We introduced ourselves. It was forum-member,
 Richard Rios! New friend!
 14) Back at the BBQ, reconnected with Esteban, Hugh, Paul, Phil, Aaron,
 David, enjoyed a great lunch. Got a pint glass to keep for a $5 beer
 purchase. Met a few more new people.
 15) Being especially fortunate to ride with two different groups during
 the ride.
 16) Amazing people taking advantage of the day.

 And a few photos:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157651544957831/


 Really amazing bike weekend. Thanks again, David!

 -Jim W.


 On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:33 PM, James Warren wrote:


 Here's a shot of Jacquie's Cunningham:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/16300892724/


 She was great to talk to. Fun person.

 I'm guessing you can see this very same Cunningham bike on Page 13 of
 Rivendell Reader #27. (I base this on the brake levers looking identical.
 However, in the reader, there is no Manitou fork, and I'm sure it's
 possible that it's a different bike.) I went back and re-read the Charlie
 Cunningham interview there after the RSR ride. One of the best things in
 the Reader ever. There's a section on Jacquie there as well.


 -Jim W.


 On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:05 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I noticed a lot of appreciation for the Rivendells, as well as the green
 Kelly, Bruce Gordon, Surly Krampus and of course Charlie Cunningham that
 were in attendance.

 I might be projecting a bit, but I think the sort of people that would
 want to go to an event like this are predisposed to knowing about and
 liking a lot of bikes.

 Too be honest, Jill's Specialized Crux you can see in these pics sure
 caught my eye.
 http://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.com/post/strada-rossa-around-redlands-calif-march-21-2015-7345407?pid=1286625981#post1286625981

 I might be turning to the dark side.

 But by any measure, the best bike of the day was Chuck's:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16872986516/

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:20 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 As a couple of guys passed me one said hey, a Rivendell, cool.  I
 thanked him  of course 10 seconds later thought I should have said
 there's several more ahead of me., knowing you guys were up the
 course somewhere.

 dougP

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 4:51:15 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 As I was passed by some cyclocrosser's one said I was on the wrong
 ride!! I said the course or the bike? The last one of em said nice bike! He
 balanced their groups ying  yang quotient.

 ~Hugh
 On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Anne:

 Marathon Supremes?  No worries.  I had a 40 mm one on the front and a
 stray 45 mm Marathon Plus (1 kg of stout German tank tire) on the rear

Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

2015-03-25 Thread cyclotourist
I hesitate to bring it up as I don't want to harp on it constantly, but the
Strada Rossa was 100% intended to be an all-things to all-people ride.
Mountainbikers, roadies, CX race teams, country-bikers, kids, randoneurs...
all present and accounted for. I don't want it to ever lose that inclusive
vibe.

Self-aggrandizing moment over.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 Interesting interview with Jan, in which he suggests that,

 Ultimately, we shouldn't divide the bicycle world into racers and
 non-racers and this and that. In the end, we all share the joy of cycling.
 It can come in so many different guises. If I see someone who's riding
 their bike with a smile, I don't care whether they're on a WalMart cruiser
 or carbon racing bike or 650B randonneur bike. I want to inspire people and
 not tell them what to do or not to do.

 http://www.thebicyclestory.com/2015/03/jan-heine/

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Re: [RBW] Jan Heine: A Randonneur's Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

2015-03-25 Thread cyclotourist
Awesome-aggrandizer-aggregator-app!

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I meant to go ride my bike..
 On Mar 25, 2015 6:35 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I meant cyclotourist.
 I meant David.
 I meant Redlands



 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:33:59 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Ron

 Doug was replying to cyclofiend, not dissing Grant.  Doug was
 congratulating cyclofiend for his big tent ride, the Strada Rossa.  No
 fights here.

 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:05:28 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

 et tu doug?  looks like you're the one who is self-aggrandizing.  I
 just don't see Grant as any kind of bad guy in this.
 Why would you think we ride any differently than you.

 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:50:07 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:

 You guys are entitled to some self-aggrandizing.  The world needs more
 Strada Rossa type events that bring diverse groups together.  I had 
 roadies
 comment on my Atlantis.  While standing there trying to pick up the next
 course marking, a gal on a serious looking MTB said follow me  led us
 along the course for several miles (we got lost shortly after she dropped
 us).  The crowd at the BBQ was spandex, baggy shorts, T-shirts, you name
 it.  Everyone felt right at home.  Of course, a beer  a camp chair does
 that to me.

 dougP

 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 10:43:57 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I hesitate to bring it up as I don't want to harp on it constantly,
 but the Strada Rossa was 100% intended to be an all-things to all-people
 ride. Mountainbikers, roadies, CX race teams, country-bikers, kids,
 randoneurs... all present and accounted for. I don't want it to ever lose
 that inclusive vibe.

 Self-aggrandizing moment over.

 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Eric Norris campyo...@me.com
 wrote:

 Interesting interview with Jan, in which he suggests that,

 Ultimately, we shouldn't divide the bicycle world into racers and
 non-racers and this and that. In the end, we all share the joy of 
 cycling.
 It can come in so many different guises. If I see someone who's riding
 their bike with a smile, I don't care whether they're on a WalMart 
 cruiser
 or carbon racing bike or 650B randonneur bike. I want to inspire people 
 and
 not tell them what to do or not to do.

 http://www.thebicyclestory.com/2015/03/jan-heine/

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Re: [RBW] Re: S48O Truncated.

2015-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
Quite the outing! Always good to have a bail out option or two! Hopefully
the girls weren't disappointed with the changes.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Jon, it's CR 211, which starts west of Deckers toward Buffalo Creek a few
 miles. No thermometer on the tent, but it got to upper 20's based on bottle
 freeze. I was rather toasty in my 0ËšF bag, with the foot zipped open and
 the top left open. That'd be a great road for us to meet up on sometime and
 ride through to Lake George, or figure out a loop back to Deckers. Amazing
 country. I plan on riding my QB down to the Platte along 67. That is a fun
 stretch of pavement, that gets a lot of traffic in summer, but is milder on
 weekdays spring and autumn.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-6, Jon in the foothills of
 Central Colorado wrote:

 Patrick,
 You made the best out of a SNAFU situation.I'm glad it worked out for
 you. What dirt road is that?? Does it start in Deckers? Nice pics.Over
 night temps must of been in the 30s???
 Jon
 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 2:37:51 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Everything looked to be going well. Blue skies. Bikes both working
 properly. Stiff headwinds and steep climbing requiring LCG (lowest common
 gear, aka hike-a-bike). Then they were there. Da da DA!

 My kryptonite. My doom. New telephone poles laid out mile up on mile in
 the middle of nowhere waiting to be planted, freshly coated with creosote
 tar and who knows what other horrible scents blowing up in my brain.
 Despite the winds of 30-40 MPH, the scents clung to an amazing degree. Part
 of the world-wide conspiracy against me. Sardonic grin. After reaching the
 crest of one hill I could see them laid out ahead as far as the eye could
 see and farther than even my schnoz can smell. We turned around, hoping to
 clear the area quickly between the descents and the tailwind. It worked!

 But what to do. No cell reception. No access within my daughters stamina
 to remote trails. There are campgrounds along the Platte River North of
 Deckers. Let’s find one and make a night of it and then figure out what
 makes sense in the morning.

 The ride there went very well. Riding roads with my daughters has gotten
 so much easier since I’ve told them to ride where the right wheel of the
 car would be, unless the shoulder is 4’ wide or wider. Cars slow down and
 go around. Amazing!

 The campsite was great! No one there (that would change). River to
 ourselves. Next to the road, but not much traffic. Of course we forgot it
 is Spring Break and just how close this section of the Platte is to Denver.
 1am the revelers arrive. Just as they were talking about building a
 bonfire, the blessed rain/snow/sleet hit. All became quiet and went to
 sleep till morning! Thank you Saint Joseph for looking out for my poor
 noggin!

 6am came. Scents from the laundry of the college crowd waft in. We pack
 in a controlled hurry, hit the road back to Deckers, stopping for breakfast
 and a welcomed sunrise (and warmth!) at a secluded spot on the river.

 I decided that was enough flirting with brain overload for me, so after
 a credit card eating pay phone SNAFU (not to be confused with SMAFU) and
 bizarre game of phone tag, my wife picked us up and we are home a day
 early, having had a wonderful time of completely different adventure than
 we’d set out for.

 All in all an excellent and fitting start to the bikepacking season!

 Photos prove adventure comes no matter which way you go!:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157649211285774/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
I noticed a lot of appreciation for the Rivendells, as well as the green
Kelly, Bruce Gordon, Surly Krampus and of course Charlie Cunningham that
were in attendance.

I might be projecting a bit, but I think the sort of people that would want
to go to an event like this are predisposed to knowing about and liking a
lot of bikes.

Too be honest, Jill's Specialized Crux you can see in these pics sure
caught my eye.
http://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.com/post/strada-rossa-around-redlands-calif-march-21-2015-7345407?pid=1286625981#post1286625981

I might be turning to the dark side.

But by any measure, the best bike of the day was Chuck's:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16872986516/

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:20 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 As a couple of guys passed me one said hey, a Rivendell, cool.  I
 thanked him  of course 10 seconds later thought I should have said
 there's several more ahead of me., knowing you guys were up the
 course somewhere.

 dougP

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 4:51:15 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 As I was passed by some cyclocrosser's one said I was on the wrong ride!!
 I said the course or the bike? The last one of em said nice bike! He
 balanced their groups ying  yang quotient.

 ~Hugh
 On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote:

 Anne:

 Marathon Supremes?  No worries.  I had a 40 mm one on the front and a
 stray 45 mm Marathon Plus (1 kg of stout German tank tire) on the rear.  I
 was afraid I'd whack up my Soma C-lines, but as Hugh points out even light,
 good performing tires were fine.  Overheard on a climb as a group of
 roadies passed me I usually run 23s but I managed to squeeze 25s on
 for this ride.

 dougP

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The video was making me motion sick, so I stopped watching. But I bet
 I would have loved the ride. It looked to me like my Atlantis' 35 mm
 slicks would have handled the terrain.

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  It made my spouse dizzy watching w/out vertigo, so I image that just
 amps it
  up exponentially!
  Not too many roots, but there was a rock section. A bit technical,
 but
  doable at slower speed as it's really flat.
 
  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com
 wrote:
 
  Wait. I didn't see a single rock or root. Is that part of the
 drought?
  Grin. (I couldn't' watch much of it though, just skipping through.
 First
  person video wrecks havoc on vertigo). Looks awesome!
 
  With abandon,
  Patrick
 
  On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 1:25:27 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Here's a GREAT video taken on the ride:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlq_CD5FbUfeature=youtu.be
 
  Quickbeam sighting @ 8:45 mark!
 
  He really captured the feel of the ride... real fun to watch!
 
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:50 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com

  wrote:
 
  And it was a drive, especially on the Friday night trip down
 through
  LA!!!
 
  I hope more Bay-Area/NorCal folks can make it down next year! Will
 do
  our best to make it worth your while!!!
 
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Philip Williamson
  philip.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Truly a fine day on the bike, and many wonderful people. I'll be
 back
  next year - it was well worth the drive.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
Course or bike? That's funny!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I was passed by some cyclocrosser's one said I was on the wrong ride!!
 I said the course or the bike? The last one of em said nice bike! He
 balanced their groups ying  yang quotient.

 ~Hugh
 On Mar 24, 2015 4:37 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Anne:

 Marathon Supremes?  No worries.  I had a 40 mm one on the front and a
 stray 45 mm Marathon Plus (1 kg of stout German tank tire) on the rear.  I
 was afraid I'd whack up my Soma C-lines, but as Hugh points out even light,
 good performing tires were fine.  Overheard on a climb as a group of
 roadies passed me I usually run 23s but I managed to squeeze 25s on
 for this ride.

 dougP

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:57:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The video was making me motion sick, so I stopped watching. But I bet
 I would have loved the ride. It looked to me like my Atlantis' 35 mm
 slicks would have handled the terrain.

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:45 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  It made my spouse dizzy watching w/out vertigo, so I image that just
 amps it
  up exponentially!
  Not too many roots, but there was a rock section. A bit technical, but
  doable at slower speed as it's really flat.
 
  On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com
 wrote:
 
  Wait. I didn't see a single rock or root. Is that part of the
 drought?
  Grin. (I couldn't' watch much of it though, just skipping through.
 First
  person video wrecks havoc on vertigo). Looks awesome!
 
  With abandon,
  Patrick
 
  On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 1:25:27 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Here's a GREAT video taken on the ride:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlq_CD5FbUfeature=youtu.be
 
  Quickbeam sighting @ 8:45 mark!
 
  He really captured the feel of the ride... real fun to watch!
 
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:50 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com

  wrote:
 
  And it was a drive, especially on the Friday night trip down
 through
  LA!!!
 
  I hope more Bay-Area/NorCal folks can make it down next year! Will
 do
  our best to make it worth your while!!!
 
  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Philip Williamson
  philip.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Truly a fine day on the bike, and many wonderful people. I'll be
 back
  next year - it was well worth the drive.
 
  Philip
  www.biketinker.com
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
It made my spouse dizzy watching w/out vertigo, so I image that just amps
it up exponentially!
Not too many roots, but there was a rock section. A bit technical, but
doable at slower speed as it's really flat.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Wait. I didn't see a single rock or root. Is that part of the drought?
 Grin. (I couldn't' watch much of it though, just skipping through. First
 person video wrecks havoc on vertigo). Looks awesome!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 1:25:27 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's a GREAT video taken on the ride: https://www.youtube.com/
 watch?v=qmlq_CD5FbUfeature=youtu.be

 Quickbeam sighting @ 8:45 mark!

 He really captured the feel of the ride... real fun to watch!

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:50 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 And it was a drive, especially on the Friday night trip down through
 LA!!!

 I hope more Bay-Area/NorCal folks can make it down next year! Will do
 our best to make it worth your while!!!

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Philip Williamson 
 philip.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Truly a fine day on the bike, and many wonderful people. I'll be back
 next year - it was well worth the drive.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-24 Thread cyclotourist
Here's a GREAT video taken on the ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmlq_CD5FbUfeature=youtu.be

Quickbeam sighting @ 8:45 mark!

He really captured the feel of the ride... real fun to watch!

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wrote:

 And it was a drive, especially on the Friday night trip down through LA!!!

 I hope more Bay-Area/NorCal folks can make it down next year! Will do our
 best to make it worth your while!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-23 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks for the really positive feedback, guys!

It was a whirlwind of a weekend, and I'm still buzzing from the endorphins
and adrenaline!!! EVERYTHING fell into place, and we had an amazing
turnout, and everything I've heard  read points to people having a great
day! In addition to what you've seen on flickr, there are some great pics
linked to the IEBA's FB page that are worth checking out:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Inland-Empire-Biking-Alliance/156207984434074
The BW ones from Kevin F are just perfect!

A good chunk of the riders were Rivendell people, and they were perfectly
suited for the day. I'm biased, but I think they may have had the best time
out there! It's intentionally a mix of riders and bikes to stir the pot and
and let the different tribes do some cross-pollination!

I had input on the 50k route, but Mark F figured out a way to get a LOT of
dirt patches connected together for the 100k portion. The 100k is probably
50-60% dirt, the 50k was significantly lower, maybe 30-40%??? I had it
figured out at one time, but we changed routes SEVERAL times over the
previous two weeks :-)

We have every intention of having a third event next year, so if this looks
like something you'd like to jump on and take advantage of the moderate
SoCal winter/spring, set your alarms for March 2016!

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Bob E reeh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Hugh. Maybe next winter the Northeast won't get clobbered with so
 much snow and I'll be in a good-enough shape to tackle that terrain so
 early in the season!  ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa 2015

2015-03-23 Thread cyclotourist
And it was a drive, especially on the Friday night trip down through LA!!!

I hope more Bay-Area/NorCal folks can make it down next year! Will do our
best to make it worth your while!!!

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 year - it was well worth the drive.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction - Newbie QB owner

2015-03-23 Thread cyclotourist
I had a feeling the Bike Tinker would be all over this one!!!

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 Thanks everyone, it's a great bike to ride. Let me know if you have any
 questions about the Bendix wheel.

 John



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis commute... first time in about two years!

2015-03-19 Thread cyclotourist
René and Max: I love both those photos, and they obviously struck a chord
with the flickr-viewing public! Congrats X2!

Man I wish flickr would stay viable, but I've got a bad feeling about it's
future...


On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:16 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 Rene,

 Although it is important to find a comfortable position on the bike it is
 equally important off the bike,  And it sounds like you may be spending
 more time lately in the office and/or on a computer than on a bike.  So if
 that is the case, you may want to try moving your computer mouse to your
 left hand (assuming you have a mouse and it's currently on the right) and
 sit in a chair without armrests.  It's amazing how much pressure we can
 inadvertently put on our elbows and shoulders over a period of time without
 even realizing it.  It might also be helpful to get a tennis ball or grip
 specific strengthening device and use it daily. Our bodies are not much
 different than our bicycles in that a small tweak can here and there can
 make a huge difference in the overall performance.  Always be aware of your
 posture!

 Personally, I've found that I have less pressure on my hands in a forward
 lean than I do in a more upright riding position.  In an upright position I
 find that I tend to make the same mistake I do in chairs with armrests,
 except instead of weighting the elbows and shoulders, I weight my wrists
 and shoulders.  I currently use the Surly Open Bar handlebar.  It's is
 similar to the Albatross except it has a 45 degree sweep instead of a 90
 degree sweep.  I chose the 45 degree sweep for reasons other than hand
 comfort but find myself in a lean with my hands in the forward handlebar
 bends most of the time; primarily to reduce pressure on my wrists.

 Please don't take this the wrong way because I'm only trying to be
 helpful. But instead of focusing on the bike ... focus on the engine.

 Sincerely,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-03-16 Thread cyclotourist
I've got a feeling the butting is all external...

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 I would be shocked if they are really straight gauge tubing.  That would
 add unnecessary weight without benefit and totally change the riding
 characteristics. He has to be kidding!

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.

 On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 5:38:48 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:

 It does say subject to change without notice on those;  and we know
 they changed from Toyo to W'ford anyway

 FWIW...

 As far as to why, I'll leave it to Grant to improve, not hurt, the
 design...not that earlier would be 'inferior', but, over time, he's
 increased clearances on bikes, and tweaked them where needed to improve...








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Re: [RBW] Re: check those bottom brackets

2015-03-15 Thread cyclotourist
Hopefully she'll give you a little warning, and no surprise visits!!!

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 Yes, I'm working on a couple of bridges in CT, thus the hotel. And there
 are 2 bikes in the room. My Homer and Hunqapillar. My fiancee says if she
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Rossa Ride - March 21st

2015-03-15 Thread cyclotourist
We just finalized routes this weekend, and are officially good to go:
http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/03/2015-strada-rossa-official-route-reveal.html

Most of the conversation is happening on the SCAR list (I think it's
private though, Hugh?).

Weather should be great, which was actually my biggest concern! If anyone
is tempted to check it out, whatcha' waiting for???

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:56 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 For anyone interested in going, and even those that aren't, here is the
 link to the commemorative embroidered patch that Philip made up and is
 selling:
 https://www.etsy.com/listing/222080664/redlands-strada-rossa-100k50k-bike-ride

 Can't improve upon that!

 Unless of course you also want to get his goathead patch he was inspired
 to do as well:
 https://www.etsy.com/listing/222086431/warning-goatheads-embroidered-patch

 You know it's going to be a good ride if they're a patch associated with
 it!!!


 http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/02/patches-patches-come-get-your-patches.html


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Re: [RBW] 2008 time machine

2015-03-14 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, 28 was considered huge!
Now anything 38mm seems downright quaint!

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wrote:

 Ha!  Yeah... and that seemed like a big tire...

 But remember - a lot of this was driven by other factors:
 - Brake reach and clearance
 - Lack of decent tires in that size range

 On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 7:54:03 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember Rivendells that only had clearance for 28-32mm tires!
 That seems like a BCE funerary object you would find in an Etruscan tomb!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-14 Thread cyclotourist
I have Supremes on my city bike, and they're fine. Vittoria Hyper is VERY
similar and I have them on the Riv I road today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157650933911909
But you did say go-fast wheels, so any of the Compass offerings are
fantastic and will feel nicer. Jack Browns as well, but I'd say try a touch
larger in the 35mm range just to give you that extra bit of versatility. No
downsides!!!

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:53 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I rode the Stampede Pass on my Roadeo last year and found them to be great
 tires. I'm sure the lighter ones that Compass sells are a bit quicker.

 I also have a Sam Hillborne but it takes 650b wheels and with that bike
 for go fast tires I used Pari Motos. Those were pretty quick tires.

 It's a bummer you aren't going for that Roadeo thoughit's a hell of a
 bike and quicker than the Sam, in my experience.

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 10:28:05 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a blissful,
 light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

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Re: [RBW] 61cm Atlantis on LA Craigslist

2015-03-14 Thread cyclotourist
FYI, Bike is sold.
I was trying to get some pics, he sent me a little bitty thumbnail one. I
asked for a larger one, he said Go to Rivendell's site.
Guy definitely does not work in sales.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ostensibly complete bike. Decent price if she rolls out the door in one
 piece. I am extrapolating the 61cm from C-C/C-T. No affiliation.

 (Apologies if you are the seller. Getting good intel from you was like
 pulling teeth. Uncle.)

 http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/4925558875.html

 From the seller:

 Deoro Hub
 Nitto handlebar and water bottle cage.
 Brooks saddle. Tan.

 This bike is loaded and was $3600 when I got it.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rambouillet and Rivendell Models....better with age

2015-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
All you young kids with your fancy phones... in my day we wore an onion on
our belt, as it was the fashion then!

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On 03/13/2015 10:31 PM, Eric Norris wrote:

 I have an iPhone. It's not hard to use.


 I find touch screen phones virtually impossible to use in the only
 circumstance I care about (the only reason I have a cell phone, actually):
 outdoors in the sun, when somebody's had an emergency on a bike ride.
 Bright sun on the screen and you can see absolutely bloody farking nothing.


  Complications answering a call? Huh? It rings, and to answer I slide a
 big red button to the right across the screen. It even shows you which way
 to slide it. I'm mystified at how anyone could be confused by that.


 Or how about this very common scenario: phone rings when you're riding.
 By the time you hear it and stop, it's gone to voice mail.  Call voice mail
 -- if you can actually see the touch screen buttons, which in the bright
 sun is almost impossible -- and after it rings, it wants your PIN.  But, on
 my phone, by that time the GDMFSOB buttons are gone and there's nothing you
 can do to bring them back.  So, I have to slide out the texting buttons,
 which are the size of grains of sand and which require a 3 button key press
 to get ther # sign in order to enter the PIN.

 Complicated enough for you?  It certainly is for me.


  Yes, a flip phone is easy to answer. But that's about where its
 benefits end. My iPhone will do about a half million other things besides
 just being a phone. I can text my exact location to my wife, take photos,
 receive texts, check a map if I get lost ... I could go on for days.


 Almost none of which are things I would ever want to do with a phone on a
 bike ride.ALL I want of a phone on a bike ride is to be able to call
 911 to get an ambulance, or contact a rider who has gone missing.
 Everything else I do at home, on a real computer, with a screen about two
 feet wide and a real full size keyboard that even clicks and feels just
 like one of the old IBM keyboards, and a fine mouse.  No squinting at sun
 washed out touch screen buttons or pinching around to try to get text large
 enough to see.  And no $1500 per year cell phone bills for the dubious
 privilege of being able to do on the road things I would never even want to
 do.

 I still remember a chat I had with one of the first people at work to have
 the first Iphone.  We're waiting for service at the IT hardware desk and
 got chatting.  I ask her how she likes the phone.  I LOVE it.  Best phone
 I've ever had.  Best thing since sliced bread.  So I ask, how is it for
 voice calls?  It sucks.  Useless.  I've given up on voice calls and just
 text all the time.  Silly me, I thought it was a phone, and all about
 voice calls...

 And let's not even talk about form factor and weight.


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Re: [RBW] 2008 time machine

2015-03-13 Thread cyclotourist
Remember Rivendells that only had clearance for 28-32mm tires!
That seems like a BCE funerary object you would find in an Etruscan tomb!

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 *I also love that Riv has now been around long enough that there are eras.*

 Right? I remember the era when Riv style was an outlier in a sea of
 skinny tires and low bars. Now there's tall headtubes and fat tires
 everywhere, and 650B is a common mtb size!

 On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 4:35:20 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

 Wow. The transition from what I sometimes call the Riv Classic era of
 ToyoRam and ToyoAtlantis to the current era. I simultaneous love both the
 classic era and what they have evolved into. I also love that Riv has now
 been around long enough that there are eras.



 Off to ride my 2TT albatross bar bike home now!



 -Jim W.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Lindsay
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 To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] 2008 time machine

 When I bought my Hillborne in Fall of 2009, Keven handed me two Riv
 Readers, the late 2008 one and the early 2009 one.  I ran across them last
 night and flipped through them.  Included in these two issues were:

 1.  Introductory article on the Bombadil and justification for the 2TT
 2.  Introduction of kickstand plates
 3.  Introduction of the Hillborne
 4.  Introduction of an article by paleo guy Mark Sisson, and Grant
 beginning to think about it
 5.  Calm you down article predicting that 650B likely will be viable.
 Interview with Kirk Pacenti.  Kirk predicts that one or two big tire
 manufacturers will offer 650B reasonably soon


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Re: [RBW] Minor MINDBLOWN : More Riv forks! and affordable!

2015-03-12 Thread cyclotourist
Jim, have you done a 650B conversion with those? Do the pads drop low
enough for a B-sized rim???

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 whos to say that it can't be used with 650b?

 http://www.promaxcomponents.com/products/p1brakes/

 (if only they came in silver!!)

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 We all know about Carbonomas forks.  It's a divisive subject, but one
 where I believe Grant has put his money where his mouth is, essentially
 subsidizing people to take their carbon forks off the road.  Love him or
 hate him for doing that...I'm talking about something completely different.

 I own two 700C Rivendells that have cantilever brakes.  Both those bikes
 have only fender eyelets below the fork tip, but not the second eyelet
 above the fork tip.  The really cool Hub Area Rack needs to bolt to the one
 above the fork tip.  It always makes me just a tiny bit sad that I don't
 have the super cool batwing fork tips with two braze ons.

 But now it looks like I CAN have what I want.  For $125 I can buy a fork
 from Rivendell with the bat-wing tips!  Only for 700c wheels, and only for
 cantilever brakes.  I'm going to be doing some measurements tonight and
 might be ordering one (or two).

 Simple One Fork http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f.htm


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Re: [RBW] Minor MINDBLOWN : More Riv forks! and affordable!

2015-03-12 Thread cyclotourist
Oh, I didn't even think smaller to larger conversion... that would probably
more doable than the other way... thanks.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, I haven't with a 700C bike, but I have thought of converting my 26
 wheeled MTB to 650B with these brakes.  It's just not too high on the
 priority list right now.

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 Jim, have you done a 650B conversion with those? Do the pads drop low
 enough for a B-sized rim???

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 wrote:

 whos to say that it can't be used with 650b?

 http://www.promaxcomponents.com/products/p1brakes/

 (if only they came in silver!!)

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 wrote:

 We all know about Carbonomas forks.  It's a divisive subject, but one
 where I believe Grant has put his money where his mouth is, essentially
 subsidizing people to take their carbon forks off the road.  Love him or
 hate him for doing that...I'm talking about something completely different.

 I own two 700C Rivendells that have cantilever brakes.  Both those
 bikes have only fender eyelets below the fork tip, but not the second
 eyelet above the fork tip.  The really cool Hub Area Rack needs to bolt to
 the one above the fork tip.  It always makes me just a tiny bit sad that I
 don't have the super cool batwing fork tips with two braze ons.

 But now it looks like I CAN have what I want.  For $125 I can buy a
 fork from Rivendell with the bat-wing tips!  Only for 700c wheels, and only
 for cantilever brakes.  I'm going to be doing some measurements tonight and
 might be ordering one (or two).

 Simple One Fork http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f.htm


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 52cm parallel 2TT Bombadil Raw F/F/HS +

2015-03-12 Thread cyclotourist
Fast sale! I love the raw clearcoat finishes. Good thing it wasn't my size!

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Jeffrey Marco jeffrey.marc...@gmail.com
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 Sold! Thanks for playing.


 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 1:37:00 PM UTC-4, Jeffrey Marco wrote:

 So about a month ago I bought a beautiful parallel double top tube
 Bombadil off the list from Dan McNamera.  You may remember the posting.
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/AHOeBQ9082w
 Anyhow, The bike is in immaculate condition and rides like a dream.
 Except for one thing. It's too small. After enlisting the help of my wife I
 finally got a true measurement of my PBH and it turns out it's 87cm, which
 is right at the top end for this size.
 It works but it's not ideal for me. So I am going to sell this to fund my
 dream bike. a 58cm Atlantis.


 F/F/HS + VO stainless fenders $1350
 add $300 for Rich built 650B wheelset/  (LX hubs 36h R 32h F laced to
 Velocity Synergy)
 Your choice of Pacenti Quasi-moto's or Schwalbe Big Ben's.

 Pm me off list if you have any questions.

 Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Best 2ish allrounder tire?

2015-03-12 Thread cyclotourist
I am a huge proponent of multiple wheelsets. I have two wheelsets on two
different bikes that I swap, and have zero problem shifting between them.
One set is disc brakes which is really easy (swapping between 700X40C and
650X50B). On the rim brake wheelsets, I just make sure the outside rim
width is the same on both (23mm) so I don't have to adjust brakes. Swapping
tires on the other hand just doesn't happen.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Good to know, Jim. Thank you!

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:

 Spoke too soon. With further miles, they were found to stretch a bit:
 http://twentynineinches.com/2009/06/24/continental-race-
 king-2-2-tires-midterm-report/


 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:18:20 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 2:16:57 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:


 Anyone know the actual width of Continental's Speed King 29 x 2.2?
 It's just above the max for the Hunqapillar.


 My experience with Conti's is that they run small. Here's a review of
 the Race King that measured them at 2.02:
 http://twentynineinches.com/2009/04/12/continental-race-
 king-22-29er-tires-first-impressions/

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Re: [RBW] Solo winter s240 report: Blizzard, lonelyness, and redemption

2015-03-10 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, thanks for the write up and pics!

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 Great write up.  I follow along on Instagram - love seeing your photos.

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Re: [RBW] Can I call dibs?

2015-03-10 Thread cyclotourist
Not so fast on the PBH thing quite yet, Justin... they're not married yet!!!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
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 PBH, Fit shots on other bikes? Current saddle height?

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Re: [RBW] Can I call dibs?

2015-03-10 Thread cyclotourist
I blame the Puritans!

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:54 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 David:

 You're so 20th century!

 dougP

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 Not so fast on the PBH thing quite yet, Justin... they're not married
 yet!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring thaw...for real?!?!?!

2015-03-08 Thread cyclotourist
It was pretty warm by the end of the ride, luckily all downhill at that
point!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16135112084/


On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:

 It hit 60 today in Alexandria VA even if briefly.  I got a nice walk in
 the snowy woods out in Winchester this morning after aborting an
 ill-conceived idea that I could ride on my rockhopper through the snow.
 The crunchy snow was just deep enough to make it impossible at least for
 me..  On the way home I got a bit of redemption when I stopped by the VA
 Arboretum out on Rt 50 as you leave Winchester, they have a nice loop road
 that is gravel. Couldn't have been much more than a mile and a half but I
 took the opportunity to get the rockhopper some work, my first real ride w/
 the Bullmoose cockpit.  I like the setup but I can tell I haven't logged
 any miles this year.  The Smart Sam's from Ant did great too, I only
 crashed once due to ice and that was right at the start before I was paying
 close enough attention.
 One shot to give you an idea;


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Re: [RBW] Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread cyclotourist
Put a magnet on it to find out.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Kevin Abbott kwillabb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago
 and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model.

 The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is
 58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them
 and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

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Re: [RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-06 Thread cyclotourist
Tough spot to be in, René. But trust me, I/we feel your pain... I think
every couple months how I should sell a bike or two. So far, hasn't
happened!

As to your situation, I think your biggest overlap is with the Homer 
'Lantis. Especially as you can only fit a 40mm tire on the latter. I would
say let go of the Atlantis, keeping the Homer, Hunqapillar, and Betty. If
you end up not using the Homer, that would be the next one to let go. Looks
like Betty is getting used? I love step-throughs, so think it's great that
you have one _if you use it_.

The alternative is to substitute the Atlantis for the Homer in the above
calculus.

Tallboy regular or LT? I have a thing for Santa Cruz bikes, even though
they're not MUSA.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep.

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now.
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present
 configurations on my Flickr site:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep.

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Early 56cm Atlantis on LA/OC Craigslist

2015-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
That JB paint looks fantastic on there!

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:24 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 I live near Costa Mesa.  If anyone out of area wants me to take a look or
 otherwise assist, feel free to ask.  I did this for someone a couple of
 years ago  the reaction was pretty funny when I pedaled up on my Atlantis
 to check out an Atlantis for sale.  Seller says local pickup only.  I have
 a shop that does an excellent job of packing bikes.

 dougP


 On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 9:37:59 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote:

 Nice build. No affiliation.

 http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/4911285981.html

 Jeff Hagedorn
 Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] FS: (5) King Cage Standard as a lot

2015-02-26 Thread cyclotourist
Love those Iris cages. I think they are one of the best bike parts out
there.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 The new ones from Riv arrived today, got mounted and tested and passed
 with flying colors!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 wrote:

 This must mean you were successful in your King Iris acquisitions!

 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oh the joy!  Sorry to have missed them.


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 Cages are sold. Thank you for looking!

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] FS: (5) King Cage Standard as a lot

2015-02-26 Thread cyclotourist
This must mean you were successful in your King Iris acquisitions!

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 Oh the joy!  Sorry to have missed them.


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 Cages are sold. Thank you for looking!

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-26 Thread cyclotourist
100!

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Doug Williams 
salguod3791willi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perfect Geir!



 Just wear whatever works for the ride you will be doing. Exercise clothes
 or racing kit are fine if that is what you are doing. Nothing wrong with
 bike clothes for a long and/or hard ride. But bike shoes and jerseys in the
 grocery store are just...well...whatever. Again, I maintain that MANY
 bicyclists simply can't imagine going on a regular ride in regular
 clothes. They miss out on many good rides because they simply can't ride
 without their racing kit. In the time spent getting dressed, I could have
 already been at the grocery store. The result is that the racing kit
 crowd never ride on short errand rides, because it is just too much
 trouble to get into their uniform.





 Doug



 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
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 I believe I have read/skimmed all the comments by now and as a European
 who has emigrated to the U.S. what strikes me as odd is the feeling I get
 that riding a bike is something special. Something you need a club for,
 extra things to buy, something a bit exotic. I believe the core of what
 Grant says is that it is not something special. It as normal as driving or
 walking down the street or taking the bus, and in fact those things can
 often be combined. My impression is that he promotes using the bike as your
 get around daily tool as much as you can, and that may mean to wear
 whatever suits the combination of your tasks, not only your bike riding.
 This is how I experienced life in Europe. But, if you go out for a ride
 that has no other tasks to it than just riding then I believe you should
 feel free to dress for the physical exercise involved. In my own case that
 means bike shorts made of lycra and other more or less bike specific attire
 as needed for the weather. I just don't see the conflict here. I have
 several bikes, but I notice that the one I grab all the time is my
 Hunqapillar, even though I own an excellent German city bike for going to
 the grocery store. So the Hunq does it all, but I may not wear the same
 clothes all the time. When younger I would often wear running shoes while
 walking around town in jeans, but I would never go for a long run wearing
 those jeans even though I still wore the same shoes. Why not adopt the same
 practical and non-ideological attitude?

 On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3:08:44 PM UTC-6, Jon in the foothills of
 Central Colorado wrote:

 In the new Adventure Cyclist Mag

 PETERSEN RESPONDS TO READER

 LETTER 'UNRACING? UNCOOL'

 Racing attitudes, bikes, clothing,

 and diets have become the norm and

 normal, and are so pervasive that many

 adult cyclists, maybe even some you

 know, accept the racing standards as

 the only legitimate way to be a serious

 adult cyclist. What I tried to do in the

 book *Just Ride *-- and what we do here

 at Rivendell Bicycle Works -- is offer

 an alternative, a model to other adult

 cyclists that there is another way. This

 letter is not an ad for either. I'm simply

 saying where I come from and what I

 do.

 We are the mice trying to squeak

 above the roar at the base of the

 waterfall. It is no time to be wishywashy,

 but I try hard to not offend.

 Inevitably, a declarative position on

 any matter is bound to raise a few

 hackles with those who have a different

 position, but it still hurts to be judged

 by a stranger who would probably like

 me, and whom I'd surely like, in person.

 A good number of our customers are

 middle-aged and older folks trying to

 fit in some activity as they age. They

 often have the means, and they're

 influenced by what they read and see

 that promotes racers as a good model --

 and that's something I don't agree with.

 They shop as innocents and come

 out of it dressed like racers and riding

 bikes that are not only inappropriate

 for the kind of riding they do, but are,

 on top of that and more egregiously, not

 comfortable. We undo that. You may

 see ego or evil behind it, but I don't

 feel either of those. I see racing and

 racers as fringe and am simply trying

 to legitimize an alternative point of

 view, one that I feel strongly about. I'm

 trying -- certainly not singlehandedly --

 to make people feel good about riding

 without dressing in pro-team gear and

 copying so many other affectations of

 the racer, and that is what Unracing and

 *Just Ride *and Rivendell Bicycle Works is

 all about. We're nobody's enemy. Some

 of my best friends pedal cliplessly and

 in spandex. It's cool.

 Grant Petersen

 Walnut Creek, California

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Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Brakes -- Wow!

2015-02-23 Thread cyclotourist
I thought pot brownies complemented all life activities???

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Z ztahr...@uwalumni.com wrote:

 Thanks Ted,

 Sorry for the tone.  Maybe pot brownies and internet forum physics lessons
 are things I shouldn't mix?

 On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 5:04:47 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:

 Z,

 Thanks for this exposition. I understand this approach. The downside of
 it is that to get it right you must do some trig to keep track of the
 variation in the tangent force magnitude. The tension in the straddle wire
 increase the flatter it gets. Of course you never get near the theoretical
 infinity but it does increase, and to get the right answer from your
 approach you have to keep track of that and balance it correctly with the
 variations of alignment with your axis tangent.

 Please consider another approach that I think is simpler, particularly if
 you want qualitative insight.
 Keep the other half of the brake in the back of your mind. It's important
 because it balances the side forces that are inherent in any feasible
 straddle cable.
 In stead of decomposing the cable force into axial and tangent (or
 perpendicular), go with up and sideways. You do this with both the straddle
 and the arm.
 The vertical component of tension in the two halves of the straddle wire
 must balance the tension in the brake cable. Call the brake cable tension
 T, then the up force one each brake arm is T/2. This is true regardless of
 what the straddle cable height is, and that fact is what gives this
 approach its advantage.
 Now unless the straddle cable is vertical there will be a side force
 towards the centerline of the bike. The flatter the cable the larger the
 force.
 To get the torque about the pivot post, decompose the brake arm axis into
 sideways and upwards components (dx and dy if you like). The net torque is
 the sum of the up force times the sideways offset plus the side force times
 the upwards offset.
 The part of the torque from the up force times the sideways offset does
 not change when you alter the straddle wire height.
 The part of the torque from the side force times the sideways offset
 always helps and always get larger when you lower the straddle wire.
 Q.E.D.

 Furthermore, if you look at the sideways and upwards offset lengths of
 different brakes in light of what you know about the forces induced on them
 by the straddle cable you get an accurate intuitive sense of what is going
 on.
 With 720s or Neo-Retros the sideways offset is sizable and the vertical
 offset is small. Because of this these brakes are relatively insensitive to
 changes in straddle cable height.
 With low profile brakes like the Paul Touring model the sizes of the
 sideways and upward offsets are about reversed. They need the sideways
 force from the flatter straddle cable to generate significant torque, and
 the torque you get depends quite a bit on the straddle height.

 High profile cantilevers do not need a high straddle wire to maximise
 leverage, on the contrary raising the straddle wire always reduces the
 leverage.
 High profile cantilevers need high straddle wires to clear the
 tire/fender/rack. Luckily the leverage they get is relatively insensitive
 to straddle wire height so raising the straddle to clear whatever you need
 to clear is not a problem.

 On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 10:42:22 PM UTC-8, Z wrote:

 Ted,

 Envision one half of a cantilever brake setup.  There is an axis between
 the points where the straddle cable attaches and the brake pivots.  We'll
 call this The Axis.  Now envision a force vector along the straddle cable.
 If you conceptually break down that vector into components which are 1)
 perpendicular to The Axis and 2) parallel to The Axis, you will realize
 that any force parallel to The Axis will be working against the rigidity of
 the cantilever brake mount.  So, you really want to maximize former vector
 component... that is, by applying the straddle cable's force perpendicular
 (90 degrees) to The Axis.  Of course, you want to be maximizing this force
 vector as the brake pad is touching the rim.

 It's true that you can apply a great deal of tension to a straight cable
 by applying a force perpendicular to its axis.  However, the theoretical
 infinite tension doesn't really affect braking when you consider the brake
 pivots (and the steel frame to which they attach) resisting most of that
 tension, which is what you would likely achieve with a high profile
 cantilever and shallow straddle cable angle.


 Z

 On Friday, February 20, 2015 at 7:35:52 PM UTC-7, ted wrote:

 Michael,

 I am confused.
 Are you saying that not enough mechanical advantage causes the lever
 will bottom out, or that too much will?
 Do you agree with Mark that 90 deg. gives the best stopping power, and
 say that 45 degrees gives the most power?
 Are you distinguishing between pure power and stopping power, and
 if you are how do you define them?
 What exactly is the hence that makes neo 

Re: [RBW] FS: Nobilette Legolas frameset - 59 cm - $1300

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
So trying to justify this. A size small, but I could make it work sort
of a thing. Steerer unfortunately cut too low.  But I'm mostly okay with
big angle stems. Could sell the road that I don't ride so much, get this,
have a flexy-tubed big tire bike... AH!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 Riv built only about 80 total Legolas'. The Flickr Legolas group needs
 more contributors:
 https://www.flickr.com/groups/legolas/

 jim m
 wc ca


 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 10:34:55 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:

 and in my size?  zero! until nowhmmmy bank account is asking for
 someone else to snap this up!

 On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Let me count the number of times a Legolas FS listing has come up... ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA

 On 2/16/15, Leslie leslie...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh oh oh
 
  If I didn't already have my canti-Rom
 
  I remember your blog, your daughter has a custom  Elephant, right? Was
  drooling on her bike, wondering if my daughter would ride more if she
 had
  one, too...
 
  Nice bike.  Really nice.   Oooo nice.
 
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Re: [RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
That way everyone is happy!!! :-)

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Mark R. markrosenber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, double top tube.  It's removable, too

 Mark
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
Like!

Or maybe it's because I have the same set up and love it! :-)

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Before: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16345788129/

 After: https://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/16553860631/

 Still need to add a rack, basket and a shopville bag.

 Oh, and that fenderline ...

 On Friday, 13 February 2015 10:00:08 UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:

 Aw snap. Now you tell me! :)

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Re: [RBW] FS? Riv Road, frame/fork, 52cm, Joe/Joe

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
It has a double top tube!!! :-)

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Mark R. markrosenber...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1O-36lXzlxg/VOKCW28bVjI/Ajs/shjyetMUPbw/s1600/cc156r2-1blueriv.jpg
 Putting out feelers, maybe someone is looking for a Riv like this and
 maybe I just am ready to let her go!


 2001, Joe Starck built, Joe Bell painted, all Reynolds (mostly 753, but
 some 725 and 531 for good measure).  Framesavered when new, and a few other
 times too, I am fastidious about my bikes.  Always stored indoors, and even
 though it was the cream of the crop of my bikes, it always shared my butt
 with several other bikes (that does not sound right LOL)
 It sat in a room from 2005 to 2010, I had another Riv for that time.

 52 c to top, 54 c to c top tube, Sovereign blue, short reach brakes,
 single eyelets, vertical dropouts, Chris King headset, matching Silca pump.

 No dents, dings, never ridden in rain, no rust, never wore fenders.  One
 small chip on build up that I covered immediately, and two rub marks from
 cables on headtube before I discovered rubber covers for bar con cables.
 Duh.


 Takes a 32 c tire if you want, I ride it mostly with 28s.  I am the
 original owner and have full build sheet.
 72.5 parallel angles, chainstay 43.

 My PBH is 77, saddle height 67.8.

 Frame/fork/headset/pump $1500, full Dura Ace mix bike $3000, we can talk
 about shipping or intermediate builds between bare frame and full bike.
 (that is not the current build)

 ping me off list

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Re: [RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

2015-02-16 Thread cyclotourist
Exactly what has been said, but again for emphasis!!!

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Mike Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Nice nice set up man!!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 17, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most
 comfortable bars I've tried yet.

 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel
 like I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher
 pace when being so upright, but that's ok.

 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the
 river and through the forest.


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hE9dN6M7AxQ/VOKZXfnCsYI/JyM/34UbSidg3Lk/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-4.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kJN7UKAlRFs/VOKZpqPCJfI/JyU/NqWtNbBJBd8/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-9.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pqKpkfkbdbc/VOKaPaQZqOI/Jyc/DzY5Grm2U7Q/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-15.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t9zTYZOg1M0/VOKbGpSRObI/Jyo/3ts7xGzNs0c/s1600/Atlantis_Albatross_Winter-18.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

2015-02-14 Thread cyclotourist
I have a clear powdercoat (not a clearcoat) on my Quickbeam, no rust. It
spent time in damp Portland before coming to live with me in arid SoCal.
I LOVE the look of the clear powdercoat and recommend it to anyone!

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've thought about that or a semi transparent color for my Hunq.  There
 are some powders produced specifically for corrosion resistance and are
 rated to withstand 3000+ hours of salt spray.  I'd look at Groody Bros.
 they have a couple of examples on their website or FB page.  I keep putting
 the idea aside when people start gooshing all over the paint job I have now.

 Marc

 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear
 powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
 I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be
 interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

2015-02-13 Thread cyclotourist
Would be a pretty nice candidate for a 650B conversion. BB would be a bit
low, but that can be dealt with.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I concur;  I have no need of it, but seeing a Riv at that price, I was
 even considering it, even if I just passed it along later. sounds like
 it might've found a good home!





 On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:

 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive
 Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers.  753
 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by
 Waterford.  Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while).

 That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom.  I don't
 know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford.

 Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts.  I'd have chimed in
 on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't
 already said they'd contacted the seller.

 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before.

 Half step triple, always thought those things were weird.  Brake release
 a bit rusty.  Monochome paint?  Front wheel looks out of place.  Rear wheel
 48 spokes?  Odd, but probably effective.

 Minor quibbles really though.  Nice ride.  I'd own it, but it's not
 close to my size.  Steal of the year for $550 complete.

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is my listing on Craigslist.

 http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html

 Check it and and let me know if your interested.
 Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics

2015-02-13 Thread cyclotourist
Ah, yes... winter riding. It can be taxing:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16323835740/

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not from here.  It's beautifully sunny but the temperature at noon was +1
 and the wind chill -20.  I'm cosy indoors.

 Michael
 Westford, VT

 On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:15:25 AM UTC-5, gabe mcgann wrote:

 So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry
 and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders.  Any
 pictures of your snowy commutes?  Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the
 moment.  Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out
 for communal support!

 Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather,
 gabe

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Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Veering way OT, but here's video of the best bus driver ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrnOhlPA0o

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I won't ID the transit agency that I work for, but part of my job is to
 monitor on-board video of all rubber-tire revenue vehicles in a major
 NorCal city. We have video of suspects running into the street in front of
 a bus, causing it to stop abruptly, then removing bikes and riding away
 with them into the nearby projects. Another trick is run up behind and pull
 down the poles on a trolley bus, while a cohort grabs the bike(s) as the
 operator re-engages the poles. Common places for these thefts are on a down
 grade because the thief can shoot down the hill quickly and be gone
 regardless of the gear the bike was left in when racked. I absolutely
 recommend a U-lock through the rear wheel, but not to the rack That will
 most likely result in a bent wheel. Once they realize they can't ride it
 away, it most likely will get thrown down. (Also, if you are so inclined,
 be very careful about pursuing such a thief into the projects. These guys
 don't generally work alone.)

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 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

 I've heard of that happening, but two in one day from one route, crazy!
 Any sort of wheel immobilizer would work good, even a cheapy little
 retractable cable lock like skiers use. Just something to keep it from
 being rideable. One of those fast cable ones could even be wrapped around
 the base of the rack to keep the bike attached.



 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 A friend of mine witnessed this yesterday. A man put his bike on the front
 rack of one of our Metro busses here in Seattle then got on the bus. A
 second man then took the guy's bike off the rack and rode away on it. STOLE
 IT! Right of the front of the bus. The bus driver said that was the second
 time that's happened today. I saw a beautiful Atlantis on one of those
 racks as I rode into work this morning and I feel like I should give you
 all a warning. This is what it's come to.

 If you're putting your bike on the bus stay up front where you can keep an
 eye on it. Also we thought perhaps if you locked the back wheel with a u
 lock they wouldn't be able to ride it at least.

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
I'm sure PB Bikes is going to be selling them for $99, but with free
shipping.

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 I was so pumped on seeing Geir's post the Ikea meets EU standards
 (European trip in planning) I googled.

 Among other things, I noticed there are people selling the same vest on
 eBay for well over what Ikea charges.

 One born every minute indeed.

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Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Rear wheel is 48 spoked. Front appears to be 32 (harder to count).

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:34 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yes, I remember back in 1996 when Grant PetrsOn was making custom bikes.
 A shame he put down the torch...

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Peter Adler divisi@gmail.com wrote:

 Kind of an odd combination.

 Reynolds 753 (with a French label, no less!) is normally thought of as a
 tubeset for lightweights; not a natural choice for a road (*not*
 touring) frame for a big rider. 531 fork makes sense, but it's hard to see
 why they wouldn't have used all 531. Maybe the original owner was
 rail-thin. 7-speed rear in a 130 BCD triangle...hmm. Maybe somebody needs
 to drop those bars, really drop that saddle, put a cassette wheel in and
 get a modern-ish drivetrain on it.

 Peter Adler
 not my normal instinct, but let's get real
 Berkeley, CA/USA

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 Email sent! ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
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 Walnut Creek, CA

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Message has been been in a holding pattern for two days it looks like...
you've got some interested people (Joe)!

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 This is my listing on Craigslist.

 http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html

 Check it and and let me know if your interested.
 Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Moral of story: Don't buy used cranks from Mr. Fiend!

I'd love to have a quality steel crankset BTW.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Kudos to VO to having the best of all answers.

 I have a couple docmented failures - both exhibit that minor/easy to miss
 crack that migrated until it failed light/dark mode:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157603388190693/

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157622446951852/

 and I tapped out a long column on the old blog, pining for quality steel
 cranks.

 http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=399

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
GREAT to hear a response like that!!!

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net
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 Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response
 was,What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank?

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Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, I remember back in 1996 when Grant PetrsOn was making custom bikes.
A shame he put down the torch...

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Peter Adler divisi@gmail.com wrote:

 Kind of an odd combination.

 Reynolds 753 (with a French label, no less!) is normally thought of as a
 tubeset for lightweights; not a natural choice for a road (*not* touring)
 frame for a big rider. 531 fork makes sense, but it's hard to see why they
 wouldn't have used all 531. Maybe the original owner was rail-thin. 7-speed
 rear in a 130 BCD triangle...hmm. Maybe somebody needs to drop those bars,
 really drop that saddle, put a cassette wheel in and get a modern-ish
 drivetrain on it.

 Peter Adler
 not my normal instinct, but let's get real
 Berkeley, CA/USA

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 Email sent! ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
 bringin' er home
 Walnut Creek, CA

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
Good job there! Get him to hold it for a few weeks and come down March 21st
and get it in person!!!

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey!
 I'm already on it!!! (metaphorically and literally) ;-)
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA

 On 2/12/15, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Message has been been in a holding pattern for two days it looks like...
  you've got some interested people (Joe)!
 
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  This is my listing on Craigslist.
 
  http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html
 
  Check it and and let me know if your interested.
  Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

2015-02-12 Thread cyclotourist
I've heard of that happening, but two in one day from one route, crazy! Any
sort of wheel immobilizer would work good, even a cheapy little retractable
cable lock like skiers use. Just something to keep it from being rideable.
One of those fast cable ones could even be wrapped around the base of the
rack to keep the bike attached.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net
wrote:

 A friend of mine witnessed this yesterday. A man put his bike on the front
 rack of one of our Metro busses here in Seattle then got on the bus. A
 second man then took the guy's bike off the rack and rode away on it. STOLE
 IT! Right of the front of the bus. The bus driver said that was the second
 time that's happened today. I saw a beautiful Atlantis on one of those
 racks as I rode into work this morning and I feel like I should give you
 all a warning. This is what it's come to.

 If you're putting your bike on the bus stay up front where you can keep an
 eye on it. Also we thought perhaps if you locked the back wheel with a u
 lock they wouldn't be able to ride it at least.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread cyclotourist
The guy on the picture doesn't look like he's having a good time.
Could it be due to the brake pads or simply not enough fiber?

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 You can use any pad that have the same post style Hugh. Like Doug said, I
 use the cross pad on the front of all my bikes, they work great.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread cyclotourist
Jason, I didn't know about this model, they look great. Basically
longer-lasting Thinlines!

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 Hugh,

 Kool Stop Supra 2 might be a better option.  The Supra 2 have
 concave/convex washers which appear to be the same as the Thinline pads,
 but with an Eagle 2 shape.

 Jason Cloutier
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Re: [RBW] Tubeless Rims for Oregon Outback

2015-02-02 Thread cyclotourist
I have my eyes on the WTB ChrisCross: http://www.wtb.com/products/chriscross
Seem like a pretty good option.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a set of Schwalbe Thunder Burts on the way for my Hunqapillar.  The
 plan is to use them on some bikepacking overnights to get ready for the
 Oregon Outback.

 I just realized that I let me Synergy rims get a bit worn via too much
 braking, not enough pad changing.  I now have my overworn pads on my bench
 to remind me to *check my brake pads regularly*.  Since I also have some
 spoke cracking on the OC rim, I figure it's time to get some new rims for
 the summer.

 The Pacenti SL23s seem like a good tubeless rim to try - or perhaps the
 Velocity A23s.  Any other recommended rims that are:
 1. usable in a tubeless setup
 2. not overly heavy - I weigh 160lbs
 3. perhaps a bit wider

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Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14

2015-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks! I've loved all of these that have been posted, and amazed that I
missed seeing them the first go around!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Loved your batch of photos!

 On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 10:49:49 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Curated my batch... and just couldn't pare back anymore. It would be like
 tossing those memories aside. I'm so dramatic...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157650572145682

 A really great year. Lots of bike rides with lots of good people. What
 could be better!?!?!?

 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here are three collages I made from my blog last year.  There's around
 14 bike photos in there.

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RZ-Bm7k-2NQ/VM1TRBkeknI/Hb4/xJ7VHd1RPq8/s1600/stolen%2Bimages.jpg
 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lAcTLE04PmI/VM1TdZvrz2I/HcA/xiYDFacnbr4/s1600/screen%2Bsaver.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FAUVglvYW0w/VM1TjZXqhmI/HcI/tlHhrn_DR_c/s1600/Desktop2.jpg
 Marc

 On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:22:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  On an even lighter (and possibly less contentious) note than
 bike-flipping, I recall that last January someone had the excellent idea
 to post 13 favorite bike-related pics from 2013, and to invite others to do
 the same.  I found the resulting sets great fun to peruse, so I thought we
 might try a reprise for 2014.  Here are my 14 for '14 - only one
 non-bike-related pic (proud Pop exception!), a couple featuring the
 occasional blood and pain of biking, 14 bikes (counting the ones in the
 backgrounds, including seven Rivs and a 15th century replica!), a few
 bike trip pics, a bike-by-the-water, and the annual Jeez, my shop is a
 mess! pic.  Captions tell the stories.  Enjoy - and show us yours!



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Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14

2015-02-01 Thread cyclotourist
And you're definitely included in the good people category!!!

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:24 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net
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 Thank you!


 On Jan 31, 2015, at 10:49 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 Curated my batch... and just couldn't pare back anymore. It would be like
 tossing those memories aside. I'm so dramatic...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157650572145682

 A really great year. Lots of bike rides with lots of good people. What
 could be better!?!?!?

 On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here are three collages I made from my blog last year.  There's around 14
 bike photos in there.

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RZ-Bm7k-2NQ/VM1TRBkeknI/Hb4/xJ7VHd1RPq8/s1600/stolen%2Bimages.jpg
 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lAcTLE04PmI/VM1TdZvrz2I/HcA/xiYDFacnbr4/s1600/screen%2Bsaver.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FAUVglvYW0w/VM1TjZXqhmI/HcI/tlHhrn_DR_c/s1600/Desktop2.jpg
 Marc

 On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:22:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  On an even lighter (and possibly less contentious) note than
 bike-flipping, I recall that last January someone had the excellent idea
 to post 13 favorite bike-related pics from 2013, and to invite others to do
 the same.  I found the resulting sets great fun to peruse, so I thought we
 might try a reprise for 2014.  Here are my 14 for '14 - only one
 non-bike-related pic (proud Pop exception!), a couple featuring the
 occasional blood and pain of biking, 14 bikes (counting the ones in the
 backgrounds, including seven Rivs and a 15th century replica!), a few
 bike trip pics, a bike-by-the-water, and the annual Jeez, my shop is a
 mess! pic.  Captions tell the stories.  Enjoy - and show us yours!


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157648190350063/


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Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14

2015-01-31 Thread cyclotourist
Curated my batch... and just couldn't pare back anymore. It would be like
tossing those memories aside. I'm so dramatic...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157650572145682

A really great year. Lots of bike rides with lots of good people. What
could be better!?!?!?

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here are three collages I made from my blog last year.  There's around 14
 bike photos in there.

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RZ-Bm7k-2NQ/VM1TRBkeknI/Hb4/xJ7VHd1RPq8/s1600/stolen%2Bimages.jpg
 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lAcTLE04PmI/VM1TdZvrz2I/HcA/xiYDFacnbr4/s1600/screen%2Bsaver.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FAUVglvYW0w/VM1TjZXqhmI/HcI/tlHhrn_DR_c/s1600/Desktop2.jpg
 Marc

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  On an even lighter (and possibly less contentious) note than
 bike-flipping, I recall that last January someone had the excellent idea
 to post 13 favorite bike-related pics from 2013, and to invite others to do
 the same.  I found the resulting sets great fun to peruse, so I thought we
 might try a reprise for 2014.  Here are my 14 for '14 - only one
 non-bike-related pic (proud Pop exception!), a couple featuring the
 occasional blood and pain of biking, 14 bikes (counting the ones in the
 backgrounds, including seven Rivs and a 15th century replica!), a few
 bike trip pics, a bike-by-the-water, and the annual Jeez, my shop is a
 mess! pic.  Captions tell the stories.  Enjoy - and show us yours!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-29 Thread cyclotourist
If you don't need gears, a vintage Schwinn Bantam is a great bike:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4338741715
Could even build it up w/ a 3 speed if so inclined.



On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20 bike. My
 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is
 above the bars when I got him this 20 Specialized (picture a ways down on
 this post):

 http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html

 (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the
 above sentence).

 Eric
 Dublin, OH

 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:20 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made
 small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-29 Thread cyclotourist
24 is  a great wheel size. I rushed my kids a bit to get them onto it, but
left them in it a while before moving to 26. It really rolls over bumps
and curbs a lot better than 20. Proportionately like a 29er to them as
Leslie mentioned!

Now scouring CL to find the perfect used 27.5 bike for them! Everything is
really high end, or really low end, hard to find the sweet spot with that
size.

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 I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you, really!

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