Re: script

[Nico De Ranter]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Steve Lee wrote:

> can someone help me write 
> a script to remove , out of a file
> lines of data with price that has
> 
> 9,000.00
> 8,000.00

grep -v "9,000\.00" thefile.txt | grep -v "8,000\.00"

should do the trick.

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script

[Steve Lee]

can someone help me write 
a script to remove , out of a file
lines of data with price that has

9,000.00
8,000.00


etc 

about 710 line of these with text too.


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Re: Time Server

[Anthony E. Greene]

At 14:07 2000-03-10 +0800, Edward Dekkers wrote:
>> NET TIME /SET /Y \\linuxbox
>
>Does this work without Samba?

I don't thinks so. The only non-samba box I have doesn't accept connections
from rdate either. Perhaps the command should actually read:

NET TIME /SET /Y \\sambabox


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Re: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Edward Dekkers]

> I wonder how many lockups occur because of porno sites :-) That's where
> the real fng bad java is happening.

Nope, it's the unsafe sufing.

Your lucky it's only Netscape, and parts haven't started falling off your
PC.

I find a condom over my modem seems to help a little.

:)

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Wayne Dyer]

Chris Dowling wrote:
> 
> I'd have to disagree with this: I am using pages that have NO java in them
> whatso ever, only javascipt and html, and netscape still bums out

That's true -- I misspoke when I said "JavaScript works fine".  I should
have said, "JavaScript isn't nearly as problematic as Java".

I have an icon on my desktop called "killnetscape", which contains nothing
but:

  killall -9 netscape
  rm -f ~/.netscape/lock

This comes in handy sometimes.

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Re: 6.1 Download

[Wayne Dyer]

Jimmie Brandon wrote:
> Has anyone been able to download Red Hat 6.1 on a
> single try?
> 
> This is the third time I have tried to download it.
> Should I just go ahead and purchase the $29.95 cd?

Are you downloading an iso image or the whole tree?

If you don't have a burner, and you don't want or need
the retail package, it's cheaper to get a CD from Cheapbytes or
Linuxmall

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Re: Time Server

[Edward Dekkers]

> NET TIME /SET /Y \\linuxbox

Does this work without Samba?

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hp ink runs!

[Jake Johnson]

Isn't there a switch I can make to lighten up the ink usage.  I am using
the HP 670/680/690 ink-jet printer diver.  I get some smearing and I would
like to lighten it up.  I have a HP 697 printer.
Thanks,

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Chris Dowling]

I'd have to disagree with this: I am using pages that have NO java in them
whatso ever, only javascipt and html, and netscape still bums out

chris.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Wayne Dyer wrote:

> Ron Golan wrote:
> > [snip]
> > 
> > Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> > Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> > don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> > visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> [...]
> 
> JavaScript works fine.  It's Java that can cause a problem.  Some sites
> work fine.  Sylvan Prometric's online registration stuff is Java, and it's
> OK.  I don't know if it's bad Java or Java that happens to step on the toes
> of Netscape's particular VM.  Either way, it's annoying.
> 
> One tip, though -- if you're on a site that uses Java, wait for the Java
> applets to load before you hit "back".  I think I've found that if you
> interrupt Netscape while an applet is either downloading or initializing,
> it's more prone to choke.
> 
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OT: was the Netscape rant

[AlphaByte]

Just another spoonful of rant.

RH Linux users are not the only ones who are not happy. And not only because of
Netscapes instability -- most of the world does not use AOL and are never likely
to, but all Netscape users are forced to endure installation of AOL Instant
Messaging and all the rest of the crap that is really totally unnecessary in a
browser and should be treated as plug-ins.

So, Redhat if you are listening, we need an alternative.

And for some editorial comment, check this out.


http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2458154,00.html

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Wayne Dyer]

Ron Golan wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
[...]

JavaScript works fine.  It's Java that can cause a problem.  Some sites
work fine.  Sylvan Prometric's online registration stuff is Java, and it's
OK.  I don't know if it's bad Java or Java that happens to step on the toes
of Netscape's particular VM.  Either way, it's annoying.

One tip, though -- if you're on a site that uses Java, wait for the Java
applets to load before you hit "back".  I think I've found that if you
interrupt Netscape while an applet is either downloading or initializing,
it's more prone to choke.

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6.1 Download

[Jimmie Brandon]

Has anyone been able to download Red Hat 6.1 on a
single try?

This is the third time I have tried to download it.
Should I just go ahead and purchase the $29.95 cd?

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Re: VPN through IP Masquerading

[Wayne Dyer]

John D. Hardin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Wayne Dyer wrote:
> 
> > 1) Anyone know of some good how-to information that's not as
> > comprehensive as the VPN HOW-TO (targetted at using NT VPN client)
> 
> Are you referring to the VPN Masq HOWTO at
> ftp://ftp.rubyriver.com/pub/jhardin/masquerade/ip_masq_vpn.html

That's what I was looking for, but had somehow stumbled upon something
else.  Strangely (or typically, depending on your POV), I can't find what I
had found before, that had a much broader scope.  It wasn't even the VPN
mini-howto that I'd found.

This may be a case of serious brainfart, and that honestly has me worried.
Someone passed along a link to your HOW-TO and I recognized it at once as
what I was seeking, and it's printed out and stuck up in my cube at work so
I won't forget it.  But I'd swear it wasn't the article I'd read before.

> > 2) Anyone know if 2.4.x will have the PPTP stuff built-in?
> 
> Not unless I win the lotto or someone invents a thirty-hour day.
> Unfortunately I don't have the time or resources to track the
> development releases. If I stay true-to-form then it'll come out as a
> patch shortly after RedHat releases a 2.2.4-based version.
> 
> Sorry.

Patches are fine w/me.  I was just wondering which way things were heading.

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Re: default font size

[Hal Burgiss]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:22:02PM -0800, Hidong Kim wrote:
> Thanks for the tips on the fonts.  I have Verdana installed on my
> machine now.  X looks a lot nicer overall now.  I have a question.
> The default font size right now is a bit big.  When I open up a new
> xterm, I have to do ctrl-right-click and choose "medium" from the VT
> Fonts list.  Right now, the default is "large".  How do it set it so
> that xterms open up with the "medium" font size?  Thanks,

The best way is to set the default in ~/.Xdefaults. Or you can specify
it on the command line (see man page).

 xterm*font: 7x10

Not sure this is 'medium', but that's the idea. Then run 

 xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults

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genius netmouse pro button mappings

[Hugo Bouckaert]

Hi All

I have a problem with a genius netmouse pro which has 5 buttons. The
middle mouse button is hinged so it can be can be pressed in two
directions (dipping forward or back), which should make the mouse either
scroll up or down.  The problem is that scrolling up and down does not
wowk under RedHat Linux 6.1. In XF86Config, the mouse is set to
"NetMousePS/2" and /dev/mouse is linked to psaux. 

If you do an xmodmap -pp, it says that there are 5 pointer buttons
defined. Yet the one on top for scrolling up and down (presumably
buttons 4 and 5) do nothing. 
  
Note that I have disabled the gpm mouse daemon under X as this was
giving me a lot of trouble. But even with gpm working, these two buttons
did not work.  

How can these buttons be made to work? Any ideas? 

Your help will be most appreciated. 

Thanks

Hugo 

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Telnet Problem

[Jim Lopresto]

I hope somebody out there might be able to help me with this issue.

Yesterday we had some Sendmail configuration problems, and we had to make
some changes to Sendmail related files only.  Over the course of a couple of
hours as we searched for the problem, we rebooted our servers several times.

Once we found the problem and fixed it, I found I was unable to to Telnet
into two of three systems.  I appeared to get a connection, and I would see
the "Escaper Character" prompt, but then the remote host would close the
session.

I did some debugging and checked the /var/log/messages file.  In the
messages file, I would see something along the lines of:

Connection failed due to error in Service Module.

However, if I used the telnet -a  switch, then the remote host
would hold the connection and I could eventually log in.

Debugging did not really seem to give me much to go on.

For the life of me, I do not know what the problem is.  Like I said, the
only changes we made were to the Sendmail files.  We did not touch anything
as far as Linux daemons or services were concerned.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [OT] Time syncing NT boxes (was: Time Server)

[Brandon Dorman]

Yes for windows atomtime.  I got it on a Pc World shareware disc.  It is
shareware.  It syncs your clock and stuff.  I've since uninstalled it though, not
because it wasn't good but I had to remove clutter.

Jim Cunning wrote:

> There's also an NT (shareware, I think) program called "atomtime" that
> will talk to a time server, configurable.
>
> Jim Cunning
>
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
>
> > Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> > > It works almost flawlessly... the signals are in sync, and I can't see
> > > any apparent differences in those machines.  Of course, now I need
> > > to sync these stupid NT boxes in
> >
> > How about using NT's "at" command to setup a regularly scheduled job to sync
> > the NT boxes to your time server:
> >
> >NET TIME /SET /YES \\timeserver
> >
> > It's not cron, but it ships with the OS and it works.
> >
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Re: linking problem

[Brian]

> 
> I having trouble with linking libraries
> 
> say I have a program called foo.c
> #include 
> #include
> 
> main()
> {
> int i;
> float j;
> for(i=1;i<100;++i)
> j=sin(1.0*i,pow(1.0*i,2));
> }
> When creating the executable 
> gcc -o foo foo.c  or egcs -o foo foo.c
> 
> I got the following errors
> /tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o   main:
> /tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o(.text+0x22):undefined reference to 'sin'
> /tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o(.text+0x22):undefined reference to 'pow'

you must link against libm:

gcc -o foo foo.c -lm

but also, sin() only takes one argument, and you are passing it two
arguments.  "man sin".

Brian


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Re: [OT] Time syncing NT boxes (was: Time Server)

[Jim Cunning]

There's also an NT (shareware, I think) program called "atomtime" that
will talk to a time server, configurable.

Jim Cunning

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

> Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> > It works almost flawlessly... the signals are in sync, and I can't see
> > any apparent differences in those machines.  Of course, now I need
> > to sync these stupid NT boxes in
> 
> How about using NT's "at" command to setup a regularly scheduled job to sync
> the NT boxes to your time server:
> 
>NET TIME /SET /YES \\timeserver
> 
> It's not cron, but it ships with the OS and it works.
> 
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RE: Automounting a volume to a subdirectory

[Matthew Saltzman]

I asked about configuring autofs to mount a subdirectory, and
Ward William E PHDN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:

>As an aside answer to your question, change the hard to soft
>on your auto.net line.  You REALLY shouldn't do hard mounts if you
>can help it.  You can hose your NFS mounts, requiring a reboot, if the
>server goes down or you somehow break your network connection.

Interesting.  The mount man page suggests that hard,intr is the way
to go.  It says about soft: "Usually it just causes lots of trouble."

>The answer to your question, though, is that your link needs to be
>in /etc/fstab.
>
>For example, I have lines similar to this that gets done everytime.
>
>server:/far/directory  /local/directorynfs
>user,exec,dev,suid,rw,bg,soft 1 1
>server:/different/directory/different/directorynfs
>user,exec,dev,suid,rw,bg,soft 1 1

OK, I added something.  I now have:

auto.master contains 

/net/etc/auto.net   --timeout 60

auto.net contains

server/var/remotedir -rw,hard,intr server:/var/remotedir

and fstab contains 

server:/var/remotedir  /net/server/var/remotedir  nfs  \
noexec,dev,nosuid,rw,noauto 0 0

Still nothing.

I added an entry in auto.net for 

server1  -rw,hard,intr server:/var/remotedir

Now, *that* succeeds in automounting server:/var/remotedir on
/net/server1, even without an entry in fstab.  So I ask again: what do
I need to do to mount the same directory on /net/server/remotedir?  I
need to have it in the right place because it contains a license file
that knows where it should be mounted and won't run if it's not
mounted in the right place.

Thanks again.

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default font size

[Hidong Kim]

Hi, Hal,

Thanks for the tips on the fonts.  I have Verdana installed on my
machine now.  X looks a lot nicer overall now.  I have a question.  The
default font size right now is a bit big.  When I open up a new xterm, I
have to do ctrl-right-click and choose "medium" from the VT Fonts list. 
Right now, the default is "large".  How do it set it so that xterms open
up with the "medium" font size?  Thanks,



Hidong



Hal Burgiss wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 09:41:50AM -0800, Hidong Kim wrote:
> > I'm having problems seeing fonts correctly in netscape.  I created a
> > web page using the StarOffice HTML editor.  I chose Verdana for the
> > font.  When I view this page in netscape, the font appears as really
> > small, hard to read Times.  When I view this page in Windows, either
> > netscape or IE, it looks correct.  I have my netscape preferences to
> > use page-specified fonts.  I can view other pages which use Verdana,
> > and they look fine.  What else can I check?  The page is
> > http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com/buffers.htm if anyone is
> > interested in looking at the HTML.  Thanks,
> 
> Do you have Verdana installed? That is the best solution (assuming RH
>  >=6.0. These are available from MS (no charge this time).
> 
>  http://216.78.197.97/xstuff/xfs.html#links
>  http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU.html (De-uglification)
>  http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
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linking problem

[Larry Mintz]

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I having trouble with linking libraries

say I have a program called foo.c
#include 
#include

main()
{
int i;
float j;
for(i=1;i<100;++i)
j=sin(1.0*i,pow(1.0*i,2));
}
When creating the executable 
gcc -o foo foo.c  or egcs -o foo foo.c

I got the following errors
/tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o   main:
/tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o(.text+0x22):undefined reference to 'sin'
/tmp/ccDfH7Hu.o(.text+0x22):undefined reference to 'pow'

How can I fix this problem ? When I use g++ things work fine.
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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Chris Dowling]

Here's my rant too:

I had 4.61 installed, and that worked fine. installed 4.71 and that didn't
work to good. went back to 4.61 and all hell broke loose! crashes as soon
as you look at it in a funny way. downloading 4.72 to see what happens.

I can't even turn the javascript off either, because I need it for work.

I'm pissed off with the state of web browsers too. I'm still waiting for a
stable version of Opera. once that comes along, bye bye Netscape...

chris.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, C Heath wrote:

> Yes, I had.  I had Netscape 4.5 cutting off where I had to restart Netscape
> related to java error.  I upgraded to 4.6-1 and had no problem however I
> recall it froze.  I do not tolerate too well with frozen apps but I really
> like the nuke function with right clicking the x button then restart Netscape
> and after a couple of times it appears to stop anymore.
> 
> CH
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have java and javascript turned off and netscape 4.71 or 4.72 doesn't
> > crash on java-related site. However, my complain with netscape 4.71 is
> > this. It sometimes (seems randomly) will go into this cpu-hungry mode and
> > consume the cpu at nearly 100% for several minutes (usually 3 minutes or
> > more). During this period, I can't scroll, click or do anything at all
> > with it. The whole page just goes blank. After that, everything is normal
> > again. I had the same problem when using redhat 6.0 and netscape 4.5, but
> > it happened less less often. Anyone has the same problem?
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jason Hirsch wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> > > > Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> > >
> > > No, alot of people are having stability with Netscape and
> > > _insertplatformhere_.  I don't think i've ever had a browser crash as
> > > much as Netscape 4.71 + 128bit encryp does.
> > >
> > > Anyway.  I have to surf with java off.  Too risky otherwise... i'll crash
> > > in the middle of a download, etc...
> > >
> > > jason
> > >
> > > > don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> > > > visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> > > > using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
> > > > I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
> > > > installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
> > > > PST).
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OT-I need an MFD (printer/fax) that is linux friendly

[sgulick]

Can some one recommend a good multifunction printer/fax that is linux friendly?

TIA
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Re: Which kernel to use: smp or img?

[Eric Cifreo]

> Evening.  Running 6.1, 2.2.12.  I had a look at lilo.conf and my dmesg
> log today.  I found that I have two kernels compiled on my machine, a
> PIII, 733 Dell.  Those kernels, according to lilo.conf,  are
> 2.2.12-20smp and 2.2.12-20img.  The
> smp kernel is the default, as setup by Red Hat installer.
>
> dmesg indicates:  "Error:  only one processor found"
>
> Does this mean I should be booting the img kernel, not the smp?  My
> machine has, in fact, only processor.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> John

As "smp" stands for "Symmetric Multi-Processing" and you have only one
processor,
I would say, yes, boot the other one.

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RE: Which kernel to use: smp or img?

[sgulick]

smp is for multi-processor systems. Use the img kernel

Steve


On 10-Mar-2000 John P. Verel wrote:
> Evening.  Running 6.1, 2.2.12.  I had a look at lilo.conf and my dmesg
> log today.  I found that I have two kernels compiled on my machine, a
> PIII, 733 Dell.  Those kernels, according to lilo.conf,  are
> 2.2.12-20smp and 2.2.12-20img.  The
> smp kernel is the default, as setup by Red Hat installer.  
> 
> dmesg indicates:  "Error:  only one processor found"
> 
> Does this mean I should be booting the img kernel, not the smp?  My
> machine has, in fact, only processor.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> John
> 
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Which kernel to use: smp or img?

[John P. Verel]

Evening.  Running 6.1, 2.2.12.  I had a look at lilo.conf and my dmesg
log today.  I found that I have two kernels compiled on my machine, a
PIII, 733 Dell.  Those kernels, according to lilo.conf,  are
2.2.12-20smp and 2.2.12-20img.  The
smp kernel is the default, as setup by Red Hat installer.  

dmesg indicates:  "Error:  only one processor found"

Does this mean I should be booting the img kernel, not the smp?  My
machine has, in fact, only processor.

Thank you.


John


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RE: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?

[Jerry Keene]

Charles:

E-mail's a very dangerous medium.  I didn't mean to slight you at 
all by calling cron technique a "kludge".

Indeed, I'm kind of goofy for not thinking of it myself, so doubly and 
triply thanks for the idea!

Another nice thing is that I think the cron job might be within my 
meager range of abilities.  So that's good.

All I meant by prior e-mail is that the cron job really is a kludge 
because while it will likely work it has nothing to do with routing or 
the internal behavior of ipchains, neither of which I am a virtuoso at, 
I might add.

Also, I generally have affection for kludges of all sorts.

Please forgive my inelegantness?

I had hoped the learned routing and ipchains gurus would weigh in 
with their subtle insights.

//jrkeene


On 9 Mar 00, at 15:21, Charles Boening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From:   Charles Boening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:RE: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?
Date sent:  Thu, 9 Mar 2000 15:21:54 -0800 

> Sorry ... that was the best I could do ... 
> 
> I was thinking you could probably do a traceroute and see what IP it
> hits as it's first hop ... 
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Keene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:53 PM
> To: Charles Boening
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?
> 
> 
> On 8 Mar 00, at 16:44, Charles Boening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Could set a cron job that checks to see which interface has access
> > and adjust accordingly.
> > 
> > Charlie
> > 
> Charlie:
> 
> Thanks for the reply; cron job sounds like it would work here, albeit
> a bit of a kludge.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jerry Keene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Subject: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?
> > 
> > We recently added another ISP, so our system has two potential
> > routes to the internet.  I've set up Routed and have configured
> > /etc/gateways using
> > 
> >  net 0.0.0.0 gateway xx.xx.xx.1 metric 1 passive
> >  net 0.0.0.0 gateway xx.xx.xx.1 metric 2 passive
> > 
> > During testing both default routes to the internet work properly
> > from the server; that is, if I pull the plug on one ISP pipe, I can
> > reach the internet through the other and vice versa.
> > 
> > However IP masquerading using ipchains doesn't work if the default
> > gateway for masquerading goes down. When that gateway is taken down
> > the internet is no longer reachable from workstations.
> > 
> > I've configured /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains is configured using
> > 
> > ipchains -b -A forward -j MASQ -p all -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 0.0.0.0/0
> > ipchains -A forward -j ACCEPT -p all -s xx.xx.xx.64/27 -d 0.0.0.0/0
> > 
> > which works until plug is pulled on one of our two default internet
> > gateways.
> > 
> > Is there an automated way to have ip masquerading change to a 
> > new default internet gateway if one goes down?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: UDMA 66?

[Michael McLeod]

I added a Promise Ultra 66 (UMDA66) to my computer and got the drivers and
installation instruction from the Promise web site.  Every things works great except
I cannot boot from a floppy but I don't need to.
Michael McLeod

David Krings wrote:

> Hi !
>
> Not too long ago i bought the FIC KA-11 motherboard which has decent
> features (2xISA/UDMA66onborad/AGP4x). I have RH 6.1 installed on an IBM 6.4
> GB drive, which is not a UDMA66 drive, but i have absolutely no probs to
> get RH going. My primary hdd is also an IBM drive which is UDMA66 and it
> holds lilo for dual boot of w98/RH. Judging on my experience there is no
> prob to use an UDMA66 controller, no clue about drives though, but I'd
> expect RH to detect the controller then as a standard EIDE controller.
> The chipset on my board is the VIA Apollo Pro 694x/596B, it works like a
> charm. Maybe it is a chipset issue ?
>
> Hope this info helps a bit,
>
> Greez
>
> Dave
>
> PS.: The FIC board has even sound on board (Creative PCI 128) and the NOVUS
> chip, which makes the puter talk to you if u forgot to plug in a grafics
> card or bad RAM. Funny, huh ?
>
> >Is UDMA66 even supported under Linux? I just got a new Abit BE6
> >motherboard, and was going to use my existing install of RH 61 that is on
> >a 13 gig Fujitsu UDMA66 drive (with the root, boot, usr, on a maxtor 1.6GB
> >drive) but when I boot up linux wont even see the 13 gig unless I plug it
> >into the standard IDE ports. I would think it would be.. Plllaase
> >someone tell em I didn't waste my money ;)
> >
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Re: Print driver page??

[sgulick]

On 10-Mar-2000 Hidong Kim wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> Could some one be kind enough to give me the URL of the Linux printer/drive
>> cross reference page. I seem to have lost the link.
>> 
>> TIA
>> Steve
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> I got your printer driver page right here
> http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi.


Thank you very much!

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Re: Printer doesnt work in RH 6.1.

[David Brett]

I though I noticed an earlier post stating that there is a bug in Red Hat
6.1.  I have not had a chance myself to go to the Red Hat site to verfiy
this.  I do know that the printer is not working for me either.


On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Brian wrote:

> did you try printtool?
> 
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, [gb2312] ¹¢Á¢ºê wrote:
> 
> > My printer worked well when my PC was installed RH 6.0. 
> > As I install RH 6.1, I found my printer doesn't work. 
> > My printer is OL 600e. 
> > I edited /etc/conf.modules. 
> > Add a line "alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc". 
> > 
> > 
> > ÿôèº{.nÇ+‰·ÿ™¨¥­çajßåŠËÿ­ê®zËÿ­çajßÜ¢l"¶îžË›±ÊâmïÚ²Ø^JæãyËÿ
> > 
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Re: apache

[Richard KHOO]

The book suggests you do a kill with the USR1 signal.

#kill -USR1 pid_of_httpd


This would reread the configuration file, but allow the child process to
run to completion


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On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Steve Lee wrote:

> how do you do i sighup.
> sorry for this basic question.
> commands for sighup?
> 
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Rob Saul wrote:
> 
> > Steve Lee wrote:
> > > 
> > > what command can u use
> > > to restart apache without bringing
> > > the web server down after changing
> > > configurations?
> > 
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
> > or
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd reload
> > 
> > should work. And I think httpd also rereads
> > it's config upon receiving a SIGHUP.
> > 
> > 
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Re: Printer doesnt work in RH 6.1.

[Brian]

did you try printtool?


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, [gb2312] ¹¢Á¢ºê wrote:

> My printer worked well when my PC was installed RH 6.0. 
> As I install RH 6.1, I found my printer doesn't work. 
> My printer is OL 600e. 
> I edited /etc/conf.modules. 
> Add a line "alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc". 
> 
> 
> ÿôèº{.nÇ+‰·ÿ™¨¥­çajßåŠËÿ­ê®zËÿ­çajßÜ¢l"¶îžË›±ÊâmïÚ²Ø^JæãyËÿ
> 

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[C Heath]

Yes, I had.  I had Netscape 4.5 cutting off where I had to restart Netscape
related to java error.  I upgraded to 4.6-1 and had no problem however I
recall it froze.  I do not tolerate too well with frozen apps but I really
like the nuke function with right clicking the x button then restart Netscape
and after a couple of times it appears to stop anymore.

CH


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> I have java and javascript turned off and netscape 4.71 or 4.72 doesn't
> crash on java-related site. However, my complain with netscape 4.71 is
> this. It sometimes (seems randomly) will go into this cpu-hungry mode and
> consume the cpu at nearly 100% for several minutes (usually 3 minutes or
> more). During this period, I can't scroll, click or do anything at all
> with it. The whole page just goes blank. After that, everything is normal
> again. I had the same problem when using redhat 6.0 and netscape 4.5, but
> it happened less less often. Anyone has the same problem?
>
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jason Hirsch wrote:
>
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> > > Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> >
> > No, alot of people are having stability with Netscape and
> > _insertplatformhere_.  I don't think i've ever had a browser crash as
> > much as Netscape 4.71 + 128bit encryp does.
> >
> > Anyway.  I have to surf with java off.  Too risky otherwise... i'll crash
> > in the middle of a download, etc...
> >
> > jason
> >
> > > don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> > > visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> > > using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
> > > I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
> > > installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
> > > PST).
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Printer doesnt work in RH 6.1.

[耿立宏]

My printer worked well when my PC was installed RH 6.0. 
As I install RH 6.1, I found my printer doesn't work. 
My printer is OL 600e. 
I edited /etc/conf.modules. 
Add a line "alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc". 


ÿôèº{.nÇ+‰·ÿ™¨¥­çajßåŠËÿ­ê®zËÿ­çajßÜ¢l"¶îžË›±ÊâmïÚ²Ø^JæãyËÿ

Re: ./configure problems

[Avista Tech Support]

Danny,
Thanks for your help.  I am running RedHat 6.1, and yes I did a custom
install.  Therefore, I suspect you are right in that I didn't install
the compiliers.  Those are probably in the development tools which I
didn't select.  I will give er a shot, thank you!

Trevor Hellman (part burrito, part man)
www.wtp.net/~hellman
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Danny wrote:
> 
> Hello, in order for me to assist you I need to know  the answers to the
> following question :-
> 
> 1) What version of Redhat are you running?
> 2) Did you perform workstation, server, custom install?
> 
> I suspect :-
> 
> the problem is you ran the custom installation of linux. (Server, Workstation
> used to trash your existing partition now RH6.1 doesn't)
> and if you don't select "everything" in the custom install it won't install the
> C Compiler for you.
> 
> Solution to your problem :-
> 
> Goto www.rpmfind.net and get the RPM for cc or gcc.
> 
> Looking forward to your feedback.
> 
> dannyh
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Trevor Hellman wrote:
> > Hi, I am new to Linux and am having problems trying to install anything.
> > I've tried the rpms but after I going thru numerous failed dependencies, one
> > of them invariably has encounters an error.  So I've tried just compiling
> > the sources.  The problem is when I do the ./configure, it either tells me
> > to specify the host type or will not find a useable gcc or cc.  I have a
> > cyrix 75 processor, so I try --host i386-cyrix-linux and other variations,
> > but it still does not work.  This is happening with numerous programs that I
> > try to install.  Any suggestions to get this working?
> >
> > Trevor Hellman
> > www.wtp.net/~hellman
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Re: Installing windows

[Danny]

Hello,

Thats ok sometimes I have to install Windows NT Workstation backup too for
testing, support purposes..

Anyway to "reinstall Windows 98" you have to obtain the following :-

1) A magic book disk which as fdisk with it.
2) A copy of NT Workstation 4.0
3) A copy of Windows 98

What happens is fdisk won't delete your existing partitions on Linux for some
reason so for a user I would use NT WK's partition utitlies in the installation
process to delete the Linux partitions.


Then I would exit from the NT WK
install and then use Fdisk again to reassign the FAT partitions

Then I would type in fdisk /mbr to reinstall the master boot record.


Then run the installation for Windows 98.

Looking forward to your feedback.

dannyh

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Phil Risby wrote:
> I knew you would hate this title
> :-)
> Me too
> I need to install win95 on my laptop
> Oh I cannot find words to describe the horror of this but I need to
> access my digi cam and its no9t supported ( even after checking out
> first it didnt work
> 
> Here is what I have on the laptop
> /dev/hda5/
> /dev/hda3/Archive
> /dev/hda2   /boot
> /dev/hda7   /usr
> /dev/hda6/usr/local
> /dev/hda1 is the write to disk power saver stuff
> What I want to do is shift my /usr/local data to /dev/hda7 thereby
> freeing up /dev/hda6
> Then I can reformat this and put win on it
> BUT I remember somewhere reading that win  wont work here
> Any one care to advise?
> Also if I can do this, how do I install, then get back my overwritten
> mbr and boot onto linux and rewrite with LILO?
> Thanks in advance
> Phil
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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[C Heath]

Ron Golan wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:03:15AM -0500, Wade Hampton wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Yesterday, I upgraded to the released NS 4.72 packages.  Same D*&^
> > problem with Java.  Netscape crashed at least 4-5 times (especially
> > bad when the wife was trying to do some work with it).
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
> I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
> installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
> PST).
>
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I had a few crashes when I had Netscape 4.5 related to javascript.  I
upgraded to Netscape 4.7-1 and it works then a couple times it froze then
I use force kill using right mouse button then restart Netscape then it
stopped.

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Re: ./configure problems

[Danny]

Hello, in order for me to assist you I need to know  the answers to the
following question :-

1) What version of Redhat are you running?
2) Did you perform workstation, server, custom install?

I suspect :-

the problem is you ran the custom installation of linux. (Server, Workstation
used to trash your existing partition now RH6.1 doesn't)
and if you don't select "everything" in the custom install it won't install the
C Compiler for you.

Solution to your problem :-

Goto www.rpmfind.net and get the RPM for cc or gcc.

Looking forward to your feedback.

dannyh

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Trevor Hellman wrote:
> Hi, I am new to Linux and am having problems trying to install anything.
> I've tried the rpms but after I going thru numerous failed dependencies, one
> of them invariably has encounters an error.  So I've tried just compiling
> the sources.  The problem is when I do the ./configure, it either tells me
> to specify the host type or will not find a useable gcc or cc.  I have a
> cyrix 75 processor, so I try --host i386-cyrix-linux and other variations,
> but it still does not work.  This is happening with numerous programs that I
> try to install.  Any suggestions to get this working?
> 
> Trevor Hellman
> www.wtp.net/~hellman
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Re: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Danny]

Bonjour!!!

Hello just an thought regarding your problem,

-why not use NetScape Navigator 4.0 which is so much better than netscape
communcator 4.6 and doesn't crash.

Looking forwd to your feedback.

dannyh

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On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, Zoki wrote:
> I'm really, really, really entirely fed up with this garbage! The only
> thing I want is to get information from the Net. I don't want to be forced
> to choose which site to visit because this damn thing will probably choke
> on one or other Javascript. Why the hell don't they take out the Java
> support until it works properly!?? I even had to create a script to kill
> Netscape, rm the lock file and restart in order to have some sort of
> continuity while Webbing. I mean, that is really too
> much
> 
> God, I hate that crap so much. Fu**!
> 
> 
> 
> Somebody have some good news about that other browser!?
> 
> Cheers!
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Re: Helix gnome

[Rick Knebel]

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, Brandon Dorman wrote:
> never heard of it.  URL please?

www.helixcode.com




> 
> Allen Bolderoff wrote:
> 
> > yep.
> >
> > it is BRILLIANT
> >
> > looks sweet, and works very well.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Rick Knebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:32 PM
> > Subject: Helix gnome
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Has anyone tried the helix gnome  desktop yet with redhat?
> > >
> > >
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Re: Print driver page??

[Hidong Kim]

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> 
> Could some one be kind enough to give me the URL of the Linux printer/drive
> cross reference page. I seem to have lost the link.
> 
> TIA
> Steve
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I got your printer driver page right here
http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi.


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Re: multiport serial boards?

[Cokey de Percin]

David Kramer wrote:
> 
> I need to get another serial port or two on my linux box.  I have one for
> the mouse, another for my IR controller, and I would like at least one
> more for an X10 ActiveHome controller.  Ideally I would have a fourth for
> a dial-in modem.
> 
> If I get a normal add-on two-port serial card for ~$30-$40, could I use
> that in addition to the two ports I have now, or are they going to
> conflict with IRQ's?
> 
> Real 4-port serial cards seem to be very expensive.  Are there any that
> are not?  I don't need fast.  Does each com port need an IRQ?  That would
> suck.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with a particular make, model, or vendor?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
>

An inexpensive multiport board that works well is sold by Byterunner.
I use a 4 Serial 2 Parallel board that was about $65.  They sell dual
and quad serial only also - much cheaper.  All the boards can share
irqs, so I disabled my second serial port and used that irq for my 4
additional ones.  I've been using my board over two years and have 
UPS, modem, dumb termial, X10 etc attached and all have worked just
fine.  They use the standard setserial although the tty setup is abit
weird; starts at 16 for the first one on the card.  Note that mine is 
an ISA buss board, but hey also have PCI bus boards.

Best

Cokey

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Re: Helix gnome

[Brandon Dorman]

never heard of it.  URL please?

Allen Bolderoff wrote:

> yep.
>
> it is BRILLIANT
>
> looks sweet, and works very well.
>
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: Helix gnome
>
> > Hi,
> > Has anyone tried the helix gnome  desktop yet with redhat?
> >
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Re: UDMA 66?

[David Krings]

Hi !

Not too long ago i bought the FIC KA-11 motherboard which has decent
features (2xISA/UDMA66onborad/AGP4x). I have RH 6.1 installed on an IBM 6.4
GB drive, which is not a UDMA66 drive, but i have absolutely no probs to
get RH going. My primary hdd is also an IBM drive which is UDMA66 and it
holds lilo for dual boot of w98/RH. Judging on my experience there is no
prob to use an UDMA66 controller, no clue about drives though, but I'd
expect RH to detect the controller then as a standard EIDE controller.
The chipset on my board is the VIA Apollo Pro 694x/596B, it works like a
charm. Maybe it is a chipset issue ?

Hope this info helps a bit,

Greez

Dave

PS.: The FIC board has even sound on board (Creative PCI 128) and the NOVUS
chip, which makes the puter talk to you if u forgot to plug in a grafics
card or bad RAM. Funny, huh ?


>Is UDMA66 even supported under Linux? I just got a new Abit BE6
>motherboard, and was going to use my existing install of RH 61 that is on
>a 13 gig Fujitsu UDMA66 drive (with the root, boot, usr, on a maxtor 1.6GB
>drive) but when I boot up linux wont even see the 13 gig unless I plug it
>into the standard IDE ports. I would think it would be.. Plllaase
>someone tell em I didn't waste my money ;)
>



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Re: help!!!!!!

[Maziar Mahzari]

No html mailing please.
cheers 
maziar

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, GEORGE CHANTZOPOULOS wrote:

> Thanks all of you for the help for the help message. I messed up with the 
>permissions in the directory /tmp and that seemed to cause the problem. Again thanks 
>a lot.
> 


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Re: Helix gnome

[Allen Bolderoff]

yep.

it is BRILLIANT

looks sweet, and works very well.



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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: Helix gnome


> Hi,
> Has anyone tried the helix gnome  desktop yet with redhat?
> 
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more modem blues

[Dan Horth]

Hiya - still have not got a reliable 56K modem connection. I have 
tried all sorts of init strings - forcing connections at lower 
speeds, etc.

A few pertinent points relating to our situation:

1. a ping I have going to the modem we're dialled in to goes from 
around 125-250ms during normal operation to 7000ms, 15000ms, 25000ms 
and beyond just before the modem chokes and dies. this usually 
happens when I try do download some stuff... and we end up getting 
useless transfer rates (sub 1k / sec at the moment)

2. pppd exits due with the following error message in the logs:

pppd[2701]: Terminating on signal 15.

3. on connecting I notice that software compression is being enabled:

kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered
kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered

4. previously we were connected by another internal 56k ISA modem - 
and a 33.6 external modem - both of these allowed speeds of up to 5 
or 6 k a second quote reliably so I'm pretty sure it's not the 
hardware or phone lines.

5. I'm having the same problems on both a server set up as a fresh 
6.1 install and another which is a 6.0 to 6.1 upgrade. our previous 
connection and speed with the internal modem was on a 6.0 setup - not 
sure if that's going to make a difference? the 33.6 works fairly 
reliably and quickly with 6.0 and 6.1 setups.

6. during testing at different connection and compression speeds I 
received the following modprobe errors, but don't know what they mean 
or how to troubleshoot:

modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-
modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-67b8
modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-0809

if anyone has any ideas as to what's going on or how to force a 
reliable (and reasonable speed) link - or what these modprobe errors 
relate to then I'd love to hear from you! :)

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Installing windows

[Phil Risby]

I knew you would hate this title
:-)
Me too
I need to install win95 on my laptop
Oh I cannot find words to describe the horror of this but I need to
access my digi cam and its no9t supported ( even after checking out
first it didnt work

Here is what I have on the laptop
/dev/hda5/
/dev/hda3/Archive
/dev/hda2   /boot
/dev/hda7   /usr
/dev/hda6/usr/local
/dev/hda1 is the write to disk power saver stuff
What I want to do is shift my /usr/local data to /dev/hda7 thereby
freeing up /dev/hda6
Then I can reformat this and put win on it
BUT I remember somewhere reading that win  wont work here
Any one care to advise?
Also if I can do this, how do I install, then get back my overwritten
mbr and boot onto linux and rewrite with LILO?
Thanks in advance
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Print driver page??

[sgulick]

Could some one be kind enough to give me the URL of the Linux printer/drive
cross reference page. I seem to have lost the link.

TIA
Steve


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Re: odd entry in netstat -a

[Hal Burgiss]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 04:30:10PM -0800, Gavin Budd wrote:
> I have an odd entry in netstat -a.  It is an apparent random port
> that is listening for UDP packets.  I haven't been able to find out
> what is listening to these ports.  I don't have any unusual entries
> in my services or inetd.conf files and ps ax doesn't show anything
> unusual either.  I have verified the integrity of the ps file and it
> doesn't appear modified.  Any suggestions on finding out what might
> be listening to this port?

Try 'lsof -i' as root.

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Beginner's question: Cannot logout

[Steven S. Wilson]

Recently installed RH 6.0, boot using boot disk due to drive configuration not
compatible with LILO, all works fine using boot disk till last night after
going in one more time to try and make modem work (ttys0 vs cua0, etc. issues,
none of them recognize the modem or make it dial), used network configuration
and activated and deactivated the modem interface several times, still no
dialing.

After that X-windows main menu won't activate *anything* I try to activate:
xeyes, gimp, netscape, ee, logout, etc.

I cold boot and it checks disk and no errors, proceeds with boot, this time
all works and all programs in menu are successfully launched from X-windows
except the logout command, which is still inactive.  I turne it off after 30
minutes of trying without logging off.

Any hints about what may be going on?

All logons are as root, by the way.


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RE: odd entry in netstat -a

[sgulick]

On 10-Mar-2000 Gavin Budd wrote:
> I have an odd entry in netstat -a.  It is an apparent random port that is
> listening for UDP packets.  I haven't been able to find out what is
> listening to these ports.  I don't have any unusual entries in my services
> or inetd.conf files and ps ax doesn't show anything unusual either.  I have
> verified the integrity of the ps file and it doesn't appear modified.  Any
> suggestions on finding out what might be listening to this port?
> 
> --Gavin Budd 

Try:

netstat -ap | grep 
 


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Re: apache

[Eric Cifreo]

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: apache


> how do you do i sighup.
> sorry for this basic question.
> commands for sighup?

killall -HUP httpd

or you can get the process id, like so:

ps aux | grep httpd | grep -v grep

then:

kill -HUP (processid)

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odd entry in netstat -a

[Gavin Budd]

I have an odd entry in netstat -a.  It is an apparent random port that is
listening for UDP packets.  I haven't been able to find out what is
listening to these ports.  I don't have any unusual entries in my services
or inetd.conf files and ps ax doesn't show anything unusual either.  I have
verified the integrity of the ps file and it doesn't appear modified.  Any
suggestions on finding out what might be listening to this port?

--Gavin Budd 


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Re: apache

[Steve Lee]

how do you do i sighup.
sorry for this basic question.
commands for sighup?

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Rob Saul wrote:

> Steve Lee wrote:
> > 
> > what command can u use
> > to restart apache without bringing
> > the web server down after changing
> > configurations?
> 
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
> or
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd reload
> 
> should work. And I think httpd also rereads
> it's config upon receiving a SIGHUP.
> 
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Re: apache

[Rob Saul]

Steve Lee wrote:
> 
> what command can u use
> to restart apache without bringing
> the web server down after changing
> configurations?

/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart
or
/etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd reload

should work. And I think httpd also rereads
it's config upon receiving a SIGHUP.


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Re: FTP access FLAME

[sgulick]

On 09-Mar-2000 Rob Saul wrote:
> 
> Hi Manuel,
> 
>> I am not refusing the idea about long signatures, as I consider them
>> interesting and totally understandable, but, if someone wants to sign half a
>> page long because it makes him happy, that is not hurting me -or anyone
>> else- in anyway 
> 
> Not necessarily.  A friend of mine was once in a situation where she
> had to pay by the byte for her email.  As you might guess she wasn't
> interested in any extraneous material, especially since she had a
> limited
> budget.
> 
> The above probably more an exception than the norm, but taking
> it into account wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Think how upset she'd be having to download this never ending thread. I would
say this thread has become close to 100 times the size of the original poster's
sig.

Can we end this now? 


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Re: OT: fonts in netscape (SOLVED, for me at least)

[Hidong Kim]

Hi, everyone!

Thanks a ton for all the advice on fonts in netscape!  

Vidiot wrote:
> 
> You can see the http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com/company.htm page correctly
> because they did the correct HTML coding:
> 
> 
> 

This was the key.  I'm correcting all the pages to include all three
font specifications.  World peace to all!



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apache

[Steve Lee]

what command can u use
to restart apache without bringing
the web server down after changing
configurations?


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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Stephen M Lavelle]

http://validator.w3.org


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Helix gnome

[Rick Knebel]

Hi,
Has anyone tried the helix gnome  desktop yet with redhat?


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Re: signal7 + 486 = weird?

[Bob Rogers]

Hi Ed, All,
I get signal7 on my 486DX33 box too, I cant get RH6.1 to
install. I'd like to know what signal7 means, can't find any info on
it. 

bob


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Edward Schernau wrote: 
> I'm running a 486 DX2-50, RAM is almost fully utilized 
> (swap is not used), with an RC5 client running constantly. 
> Every time the compilation of ssh gets to "sqrt.c" it
> signal 7s on me.  This is 100% reproducible, it dies here,
> only here, and never anywhere else.  Uptime on the box
> is infinite - I've never rebooted it other than once to
> patch the kernel and reload.
> 
> I've gotten signal 11's before, on all sorts of hardware
> combinations, but why do 486's in particular seem to
> signal 7?  And why are 3 486s under discussion dying on
> RH6.1 installs?
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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Matt Housh]

> There are some versions of X that do not allow you to install TT fonts.
> While anyone can build their own X to do so, there will be sites that
> do not allow the user root permission in which to do so.

They can easily request that the system administrator do it for them.

> It is established protocol by web producers, and every author on Web page
> development will point out the error in your ways.  It is very conceited

This is only an error in your opinion, as I have stated.

> to think that everyone will do your bidding and install the font.  That
> is where I learned about CORRECT font usage for web pages, by web authors.

I never said I expect everyone to download the font. I said I want my
page to appear with the Verdana font, and I don't care much about the
others. Please leave words like CORRECT out of this, as again they are
your opinions.

> If you want Verdana, put it first in the list, but add Helvetica, Arial
> and sans-serif in the list as well.  That way, if verdana is not installed,
> at least the viewer will get the font that is closest to it that WILL reside
> on that user's system.

I'm well aware of how to fix the issue. As I have repeatedly said, it
was intentional.

> I'm sure you will disagree with me, but people who makes it their business
> will be happy to point out the error in your ways.
> 
> Keep in mind, that Netscape users, under Unix, will see COURIER if the
> font doesn't exist.  Is that what you want?

See above.

I will not respond to this on the list again. If you think it'll get
you somewhere to continue this with me, feel free to email me directly.

Matt

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RE: FTP access FLAME

[Manuel Antonio Camacho Quesada]

> had to pay by the byte for her email.  

Oh, sorry, I did not knew this billing modality existed somewhere.

-Manuel.


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RE: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?

[Jerry Keene]

On 8 Mar 00, at 16:44, Charles Boening <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could set a cron job that checks to see which interface has access and
> adjust accordingly.
> 
> Charlie
> 
Charlie:

Thanks for the reply; cron job sounds like it would work here, albeit 
a bit of a kludge.

Any other ideas?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Keene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Subject: IP Masquerading for Failsafe Internet Service?
> 
> We recently added another ISP, so our system has two potential 
> routes to the internet.  I've set up Routed and have configured 
> /etc/gateways using
> 
>  net 0.0.0.0 gateway xx.xx.xx.1 metric 1 passive
>  net 0.0.0.0 gateway xx.xx.xx.1 metric 2 passive
> 
> During testing both default routes to the internet work properly from
> the server; that is, if I pull the plug on one ISP pipe, I can reach
> the internet through the other and vice versa.
> 
> However IP masquerading using ipchains doesn't work if the default
> gateway for masquerading goes down. When that gateway is taken down
> the internet is no longer reachable from workstations.
> 
> I've configured /etc/rc.d/rc.ipchains is configured using
> 
> ipchains -b -A forward -j MASQ -p all -s 10.0.0.0/8 -d 0.0.0.0/0
> ipchains -A forward -j ACCEPT -p all -s xx.xx.xx.64/27 -d 0.0.0.0/0
> 
> which works until plug is pulled on one of our two default internet
> gateways.
> 
> Is there an automated way to have ip masquerading change to a 
> new default internet gateway if one goes down?
> 



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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[fang]

I have java and javascript turned off and netscape 4.71 or 4.72 doesn't
crash on java-related site. However, my complain with netscape 4.71 is
this. It sometimes (seems randomly) will go into this cpu-hungry mode and
consume the cpu at nearly 100% for several minutes (usually 3 minutes or
more). During this period, I can't scroll, click or do anything at all
with it. The whole page just goes blank. After that, everything is normal
again. I had the same problem when using redhat 6.0 and netscape 4.5, but
it happened less less often. Anyone has the same problem?

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jason Hirsch wrote:

> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> > Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> 
> No, alot of people are having stability with Netscape and
> _insertplatformhere_.  I don't think i've ever had a browser crash as
> much as Netscape 4.71 + 128bit encryp does.
> 
> Anyway.  I have to surf with java off.  Too risky otherwise... i'll crash
> in the middle of a download, etc...
> 
> jason
> 
> > don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> > visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> > using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
> > I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
> > installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
> > PST).


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signal7 + 486 = weird?

[Edward Schernau]

I'm running a 486 DX2-50, RAM is almost fully utilized
(swap is not used), with an RC5 client running constantly.

Every time the compilation of ssh gets to "sqrt.c" it
signal 7s on me.  This is 100% reproducible, it dies here,
only here, and never anywhere else.  Uptime on the box
is infinite - I've never rebooted it other than once to
patch the kernel and reload.

I've gotten signal 11's before, on all sorts of hardware
combinations, but why do 486's in particular seem to
signal 7?  And why are 3 486s under discussion dying on
RH6.1 installs?
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RE: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Juha Saarinen]

%-> Java is supposed to be safe, running in a sandbox.  It is supposed to
%-> NOT take your application, display manager, X server, etc., down
%-> with it :(  As it now stands, bad Java is a VERY GOOD DOS TOOL
%-> THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST LINUX USERS!

Interestingly enough, www.intel.com works in a similar fashion for Windows
2000 Professional. Internet Exploder invariably crashes when you go to
Intel's Web site, and after a few tries, appears to overwhelm the OS garbage
collection capabilities so you have to reboot to free up locked resources.

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Re: RPC Problem

[Timothy Lillicrap]

HH

I don't think I have a solution to your problem, but I have had the same sort of
problem as this and was also wondering what caused it.  I get "neighbour table
overflows" when I am trying to ping somthing from my laptop when it is not
physically linked to my LAN (or just improperly connected).  Normally when I
use ping and I am not connected to the network it simply tells me that the
requests timed out.  It is only on my laptop that this happens.  Personally, I
suspect that the pcmcia ethernet card has a problem with the drivers

Perhaps your machine is having the same sort of problem???  Anyway I will be
interested to find out what the "neigher table overflow" actually means. 
Hopefully someone here can tell us...

Timothy Lillicrap

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, Silvia Glusman wrote:
> Hi,
>   I need your help.
>   I have the following error:
> 
>   "neighbour table overflow"
>   "RPC:sendmsg returned error 105"
> 
>I've Red Hat Linux 6.0.
>Who can i solved this problem?
>   Thanks,
>Silvia
> 
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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Vidiot]

>> The following pages are coded INCORRECTLY:
>> 
>> http://jaeger.morpheus.net/
>> http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com/buffers.htm
>
>   Just so you know, my page is NOT coded incorrectly. That was
>intentional. (READ: I did it on purpose.) It's not that hard to install
>the Verdana font (and countless OTHER truetype fonts) under X, and
>that's what I want my page to look like. If you think it's coded
>incorrectly because *YOU* don't like the way it looks or doesn't look,
>that's your personal opinion.
>Matt

There are some versions of X that do not allow you to install TT fonts.
While anyone can build their own X to do so, there will be sites that
do not allow the user root permission in which to do so.

It is established protocol by web producers, and every author on Web page
development will point out the error in your ways.  It is very conceited
to think that everyone will do your bidding and install the font.  That
is where I learned about CORRECT font usage for web pages, by web authors.

If you want Verdana, put it first in the list, but add Helvetica, Arial
and sans-serif in the list as well.  That way, if verdana is not installed,
at least the viewer will get the font that is closest to it that WILL reside
on that user's system.

I'm sure you will disagree with me, but people who makes it their business
will be happy to point out the error in your ways.

Keep in mind, that Netscape users, under Unix, will see COURIER if the
font doesn't exist.  Is that what you want?

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Re: FTP access FLAME

[Rob Saul]

Hi Manuel,

> I am not refusing the idea about long signatures, as I consider them
> interesting and totally understandable, but, if someone wants to sign half a
> page long because it makes him happy, that is not hurting me -or anyone
> else- in anyway 

Not necessarily.  A friend of mine was once in a situation where she
had to pay by the byte for her email.  As you might guess she wasn't
interested in any extraneous material, especially since she had a
limited
budget.

The above probably more an exception than the norm, but taking
it into account wouldn't be such a bad thing.

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Jason Hirsch]

> 
> [snip]
> 
> Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I

No, alot of people are having stability with Netscape and
_insertplatformhere_.  I don't think i've ever had a browser crash as
much as Netscape 4.71 + 128bit encryp does.

Anyway.  I have to surf with java off.  Too risky otherwise... i'll crash
in the middle of a download, etc...

jason

> don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
> using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
> I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
> installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
> PST).
> 
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RE: /dev/fd0H1773 ?

[Alan Mead]

Looks like the list is catching up a little...

On my machine, mknod has a different syntax ('mknod /dev/fd0u1722 b 2 60', 
IIRC) and the referenced text file describes the magic device numbers.  So 
I make the device and I've been testing it like this:

% mkfs /dev/fd0u1722
% mount /dev/fd0u1722 /mnt/floppy
% cat /dev/urandom > /mnt/floppy/delme
% umount /mnt/floppy

% mkfs /dev/fd0
% mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
% cat /dev/urandom > /mnt/floppy/delme
% umount /mnt/floppy

And the first set produces a whole lot of I/O errors while the second set 
works flawlessly.  So I guess it's not working on my machine.  If it would 
help to post the errors, I can dig them up   I don't know if it's the 
media (which I consider poor quality) or, as I've seen posted, the 1.7MB 
floppy is inherently unreliable...  I'd think media (or BOTH) but I can 
iterate the above and the same media works great as a 1.44 and then fails 
as 1.7 then great as 1.44 ...

Oh yeah, unless I'm doing something stupid  I don't use floppies on 
Linux at all and mkfs is amazingly fast compared to DOS FORMAT...  SO maybe 
I'm skipping a step that would make the media reliable?  Or maybe I need to 
futz with something like "setfdprm'?  (But I don't really understand what 
the geometry of the disk is).

-Alan

At 06:32 PM 3/8/00 , Chad W. Skinner wrote:
>Alan,
>
>I did not see a reply to you message so I dug through the list and found a
>post with this in it.
>
> > mknod b 2 60 /dev/fd0u1722
> >
> > check /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt
>
>Note, I don't know if this worked for the original poster.
>
>Let me know if you have it working as I am interested as well.
>
>Chad
>
> > I've been reading docs on the Linux Router Project pages and they talk
> > about a 1.7MB floppy.  Red Hat doesn't install the device; anyone
> > do so and can tell me how (or is there a HOWTO I've missed)?
>
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Re: How do I disconnect a user?

[Anthony E. Greene]

Jake Johnson wrote:
> Using a modem I sometimes get kicked off and want to kill the session that
> I was currently logged into.  How do I do such a thing without having to
> reboot (cough).

Use 'ps aux' to get the PID of the process to kill, then 'kill' or 'kill -9'
to kill the process.

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[OT] Time syncing NT boxes (was: Time Server)

[Anthony E. Greene]

Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> It works almost flawlessly... the signals are in sync, and I can't see
> any apparent differences in those machines.  Of course, now I need
> to sync these stupid NT boxes in

How about using NT's "at" command to setup a regularly scheduled job to sync
the NT boxes to your time server:

   NET TIME /SET /YES \\timeserver

It's not cron, but it ships with the OS and it works.

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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Matt Housh]

If you want to view truetype fonts correctly, XFS can render them for
you, though it doesn't seem to scale them correctly. What I did was grab
all the .ttf files from my windows partition, put them in /usr/ttfonts,
run ttmkfdir > fonts.dir in that directory, add /usr/ttfonts to
/etc/X11/fs/config, restart xfs, and it worked.

Matt

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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Matt Housh]

> The following pages are coded INCORRECTLY:
> 
> http://jaeger.morpheus.net/
> http://www.emeraldbiostructures.com/buffers.htm

Just so you know, my page is NOT coded incorrectly. That was
intentional. (READ: I did it on purpose.) It's not that hard to install
the Verdana font (and countless OTHER truetype fonts) under X, and
that's what I want my page to look like. If you think it's coded
incorrectly because *YOU* don't like the way it looks or doesn't look,
that's your personal opinion.

Matt

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RE: FTP access FLAME

[Manuel Antonio Camacho Quesada]

Hi Charles!

Well, "Manuel" is my name and "Charles" is yours, and I feel pretty much
better knowing I am writting to "Charles". But my point is, what can you
expect from someone that calls himself "Jack the Ripper" and signs "JtR"?

I am not refusing the idea about long signatures, as I consider them
interesting and totally understandable, but, if someone wants to sign half a
page long because it makes him happy, that is not hurting me -or anyone
else- in anyway (I can read messages up to the signature and erase the whole
message before reading the rest of it)(well, yeah, someone may get hurt in
his liver, but I just don't want it to be me =) ). Getting even ten lines of
text signature on 100 messages should not really affect your downloading
time. HTML? well, that is another story.

Friends, we are doing a world wide fight here, and all this stuff about open
source and Linux is just the modern expression of FREEDOM itself. We can´t
be so blind of not seeing what is really going on: we live in an information
society, and this is the way wars are supposed to be in our times. We can
not win if we do not give an EXAMPLE of respecting everyone's freedom
OURSELVES.

If you want to start your own crusade against long signatures, well, it's up
to you. You are free to do that, too. But I believe we should all learn to
be tolerant.

Respectfully yours,

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Re: Changing root password remotely.

[Bret Hughes]

I think this was mentioned earlier but could the different results be
the difference between
su
and 
su -
I know su alone does not set the environment to the su'ed user but I
don't know about the user id associated with various programs


Perhaps a test:

su to root

then start the passwd command

in another session do

ps -aux |grep passwd

look to see who is running passwd.

try it also with su -

Just a thought.  I may try it later .

Bret



Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> 
> If you aren't afraid to play with the system, here's something you can
> do.
> 
> Create a dummy account.  Assign the dummy account the password that you
> want to change root to.
> 
> open /etc/passwd and lookup the dummy account.  Between the first and second
> colon (:) is the encrypted new password.  Copy that string verbatim into the
> root
> account.   Save your work.
> 
> Delete the dummy account.
> 
> Try doing an su again, and you should find the password has changed.  I'd
> experiment once to be sure you did it right while you are actually at the
> box, or if you have done a shadow password file.
> 
> Bill Ward
> -Original Message-
> From: Timothy Lillicrap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: recipient.list.not.shown; @nswcphdn.navy.mil
> Subject: Changing root password remotely.
> 
> Hi I have two RH6.0 servers which I administer remotely from home.  They are
> in
> a different city which is a 3.5-4 hour drive away.  I would like to be able
> to
> remotely change the root password on these boxes, but I have run into a
> problem...
> 
> I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to get
> root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root and
> give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for the
> new
> password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.
> 
> However, when I log off and then log back in as a regular user, and then try
> to
> su to root using my new password, it doesn't work (the first time I did this
> is
> scared the **it out of me as I thought I'd locked myself out of the system).
> 
> All that had happened though is that the old password was still in place and
> I
> could get root just fine with that.
> 
> So my question is, what do I need to do change the password remotely
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Timothy Lillicrap
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Re: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Zoki]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Gustav Schaffter wrote:

->If you're ready to use a 'Java free' version of NetScape maybe you could
->try to just turn off Java in NetScape. It might help.



->I've turned off the Java in my Macintosh Netscape Communicator version 
->4.61 and it runs much better. I only turn Java on if I need to. Bonus: 
->you don't see all the pointless scrolling marques in web sites. I can't 
->say I've had problem with Javascript, but it can be turned off too. 
->Perhaps try those ideas.




*** I wish it would be that simple. Whatever I try - even with Java turned
off (!!) - it chokes on Java sites!?? Go figure.


->I wonder how many lockups occur because of porno sites :-) That's where
->the real fng bad java is happening.




*** With all the warnings and inscriptions prior to entering a porn site
it's no fun even trying. Come to think of it, the only thing the site
Netscape choked on this morning has in common with a porn site is the
naked thruth it confronts me with each time I check my account. It was my
bankers site I went to...




->Java is supposed to be safe, running in a sandbox.  It is supposed to
->NOT take your application, display manager, X server, etc., down
->with it :(  As it now stands, bad Java is a VERY GOOD DOS TOOL
->THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST LINUX USERS!


*** You see, it's Billy Boy trying to get us again. I'm sure he was
behjind it in one way or the other.

Aah well, I guess we have to wait a bit more for Opera and Mozilla. I read
this morning Opera is in "stable" beta. The seemed to think it was as
stable as Netscape is now.

Another thing I read - which might interest the guys who started the Red
Hat i686 pre-compiled rpm's project - is the announcement in a French
magazine about the existense of the project and with the URL of the rpm's.
The guy's are going to become world famous!!

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./configure problems

[Trevor Hellman]

Hi, I am new to Linux and am having problems trying to install anything.
I've tried the rpms but after I going thru numerous failed dependencies, one
of them invariably has encounters an error.  So I've tried just compiling
the sources.  The problem is when I do the ./configure, it either tells me
to specify the host type or will not find a useable gcc or cc.  I have a
cyrix 75 processor, so I try --host i386-cyrix-linux and other variations,
but it still does not work.  This is happening with numerous programs that I
try to install.  Any suggestions to get this working?

Trevor Hellman
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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Jerry Winegarden]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Ron Golan wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:03:15AM -0500, Wade Hampton wrote:

> > Yesterday, I upgraded to the released NS 4.72 packages.  Same D*&^ 
> > problem with Java.  Netscape crashed at least 4-5 times (especially

 [snip]
> 
> Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
> Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
> don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
> visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. 

The major problem is with different and incompatible versions of Java
on Linux and at many, but not all web sites.  JDK 1.2 is the most recent 
version of Java, but 1.2 support is not really there yet.  That is why
even Mozilla has the same problems of crashing when you get to certain
Java pages.  Again, the problem isn't Java, per se, but incompatible
versions between client and server.  If Ron Golan goes to certain pages,
even he will crash (unless he's turned off Java).

It's not even only entertainment and motion/video snazzy effects pages
that use Java these days.  Bread and butter stuff, too.  In my case,
I need access to my University's trouble ticket system (Remedy).  Remedy
has a java client, but has recently changed it over to JDK 1.2.  With their
1.1 interface, I was able to update tickets just fine.  Now, I can't.
In fact, it freezes my X-session.  Java is increasingly being used instead
of Perl CGI's for web front-end (as well as native java client apps
instead of web browsers and applets) to bread and butter apps.  Great idea,
in theory, but in current practice, the incompatibilties between 1.1 and 1.2
have been a big problem.  This will stabilize, but not soon enough for us,
right?

By the way, the problem exists for older versions of Netscape on Doze boxen.
If you don't have the most current netscape java plug-in, you will have
trouble at those java 1.2 sites.  However, at least the java plug-in
EXISTS for Doze.

The bigger problem is one of getting a good JDK on Linux.  
(RedHat on alphas is also having a problem, with reported licensing 
problems with Sun.)  Mozilla will hopefully grow up soon, but the
Java problems will persist.  Even after the 1.2 problems are finally
resolved on linux, what about next time with 1.3 or 3.1 or...?  How long the 
delay between the Doze port and a working linux port?
There's surely nothing making Sun do it!

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RPC Problem

[Silvia Glusman]

Hi,
  I need your help.
  I have the following error:

  "neighbour table overflow"
  "RPC:sendmsg returned error 105"

   I've Red Hat Linux 6.0.
   Who can i solved this problem?
  Thanks,
   Silvia

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OT:Re: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Rob Saul]

Wade Hampton wrote:
> 
> Java is supposed to be safe, running in a sandbox. 

The sandbox applets run in is for security purposes, not
stability.  The stability problems are caused by an old/poorly
implemented JVM in Netscape.

> It is supposed to NOT take your application, display manager, 
> X server, etc., down with it :(  

No (useful) program is _supposed_ to do this.  I've managed
to do it with several, though.

> As it now stands, bad Java is a VERY GOOD DOS TOOL
> THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST LINUX USERS!

Bad code is bad code.  And the bad code you're seeing
is C.  If you're worried about this then turn Java off. 
Personally I've seen much more malicious Javascript than 
Java (remember Javascript != Java). And this is really a 
poor DOS attack, as you have a simple and immediate rememdy.  
It is a nasty little gotcha, though.

Cheers,
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Re: Signal 7 during RH 6.1 Install - Aieeeee!

[Alan Mead]

As I understand it, sig 7 is a symptom of faulty hardware which is never 
what you want to hear because it can be *really* difficult to trouble 
shoot.  For example, I replaced a perfectly working Intel 486/66 CPU with 
one of those "overdrive" chips and it sure was faster but when the box 
started working hard it would lock up tight.

The fact that the original poster's problem is replicable is actually a 
really good sign.  I would want to know what the computer was doing when it 
locks.  You might try cooling it further (as an experiment take the case 
off and direct a house fan to blow onto the system board--but OSHA will 
tell you that this is inherently unsafe and I'm not suggesting it).  If you 
have several RAM chips, and you can replicate the problem, you can run on 
just a portion of your RAM, cycling through which chips are in, and see if 
the problem goes away.  If you have a couple similar computers (and you can 
buy 486/66 computers quite inexpensively these days), you can try swapping 
parts to see if you can isolate which component is causing the problem.

FWIW, I have installed Linux on numerous 486's and old Pentiums so it is 
far from out of the question.

-Alan

At 10:54 AM 3/9/00 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I had the same problem on a 486/66 but never found an answer. It's still
>sitting and waiting for a cure.
>
>
>On 09-Mar-2000 Jeffery Druzba wrote:
> > Looking through all the material that comes up in google and any other
> > support area, shows that no one who has ever asked such a question as mine
> > really has much of an answer.
> >
> > The best I have found is that there is some memory or bus error.
> >
> > I simply want to know if I can use this machine or not for RH 6.1. Like I
> > said in my original message, I am willing to fix this problem in the 
> machine
> > if it is fixable but I need to know what is causing the problem.
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience with this problem or a similar machine as
> > the one I describe in my original post?
> >
> >
> >
> > Original Message Follows
> > From: Kurt Brust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Signal 7 during RH 6.1 Install - Aie!
> > Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:54:34 -0500
> >
> > Thats odd... i went to
> >
> > redhat.google.com and searched on signal 7 and a whole bunch of stuff came
> > up!
> >
> > On Thu, 09 Mar 2000, Jeffery Druzba wrote:
> >  > Me = Linux Install Newbie though I am familiar with the system
> >  >
> >  > My Machine = AST Advantage! Adventure 575 - 486DX P75 / 8 MB RAM / 
> 600 MB
> > HD
> >  >
> >  > My Problem = Trying to install RH 6.1 on this thing, I encounter a 
> signal
> > 7
> >  > error at the same point in the installation every time. It tells me
> > signal 7
> >  > and kills all the stuff and lets me know that I can reboot. I've looked
> >  > around for web sites or message boards for help and have only been
> > referred
> >  > to a general page of information, through the redhat.com site, about
> >  > different signal errors and what they mean during installation. The 
> page
> > is
> >  > pretty general and seems to indicate, in short, that it could really be
> >  > ANYTHING causing this issue...memory, motherboard, etc. I, personally,
> > would
> >  > like to narrow down the cause a bit.
> >  >
> >  > The Odd Thing = I went to the library and borrowed a book with an old
> >  > version of RH in it (5.0). I have installed that on to this same 
> machine.
> > It
> >  > had to try a few times but I think it failed a few times because I'm
> > working
> >  > with only 600 MB of space. Who knows though. Anyway, I have 5.0 on 
> there
> > but
> >  > I sure would like to be able to upgrade this machine to put 6.1 on 
> there.
> > I
> >  > don't want to pay for a bunch of stuff, however, unless I am confident
> > that
> >  > RH 6.1 will even work on this machine.
> >  >
> >  > Any help? Please, I beg you!
> >  >
> >  > JD
> >  >

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Re: DSL and Linux

[Hal Burgiss]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:44:39AM -0700, Eric Sisler wrote:
> Dana Danet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >so i am the recent listed person with growing interests in linux
> >
> >my question to the list is:
> >
> >i am planning on implementing a server out of my house via dsl and
> >i hear horror stories of users that know ip ranges given out by
> >isp's and the scan them looking to get into boxes.  before i get my
> >linux desktop and server configured for dsl what precautionary
> >steps/implementations should i consider. i have a webramp 700s, has
> >anyone used this device for a firewall to their linux network.
> 
> Ok, since I'll (hopefully) soon be getting DSL myself, I'll bite:
> 
> Yes, if you're getting any kind of dedicated connection to the
> Internet, you'll be port scanned at some point.  It's a fact of life
> on the Internet.  Anytime you have a permanent connection to the
> Internet, steps need to be taken to protect those machines -
> regardless of whether it's at home, work, or elsewhere.


[snip all good advice]

I'll just add that on average I get scanned several times a week,
sometimes several times a night. They are definitely out there. I
don't know this device either, but to start with I would close (or at
least firewall) all ports below 1024 -- except ident (auth) at 113.
This means commenting out everything in /etc/inetd.conf except auth,
and shutting down any daemons running that may have ports open. Use
netstat or lsof if you are not sure what is open/running. Once you are
comfortable with your security, you can start openning up other ports
on an as needed basis. The ports above 1023 a little trickier as many
are dynamically assigned and you can accidentally hose something if
not careful. I would add port 6000 to the list, since X runs there.


http://www.rustcorp.com/linux/ipchains/
http://www.enteract.com/~lspitz/linux.html
http://www.psionic.com
http://ipchains.nerdherd.org/ (scripts for various purposes)
http://linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/ (lots of stuff!)
http://people.redhat.com/~wil
ftp://ftp.redhat.de/pub/rh-addons/security/RPMS/ 
http://www.securityportal.com/lasg/
http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.html
http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html (common exploits)



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Re: OT: fonts in netscape

[Thomas Ribbrock \(Design/DEG\)]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 06:45:55AM -0600, Vidiot wrote:
> Excuse me, but if you use style sheets you still are making assumptions
> about fonts if you use the "font-family" directive.  The only difference
> with using style sheets is the the user can override the values, which is
> a must for some visually impaired.

Correct. But as it is possible to override it, you're not trying to
force the physical layout as much as with  tags, which leaves the
viewer more options. I should've made that clearer, sorry.

However, I personally still think one shouldn't mess with font families
at all - HTML simply wasn't meant for that. >:-)

ObVisuallyImpaired: If you're also thinking of blind people in this
regard, the only correct way of doing things is writing text-browser
compatible pages anyway (at least to the best of my knowledge), as then
Braille-converters can be used. But that's even one step further to what
you mentioned above. Probably depends on the target audience.

Cheerio and thanks for clearing that up,

Thomas
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wu-ftp

[erik]

How do you add another directory to my ftp?  I can not use a link
because it is across a file system.

Thanks,

-e

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RE: Changing root password remotely.

[Ward William E PHDN]

If you aren't afraid to play with the system, here's something you can
do.

Create a dummy account.  Assign the dummy account the password that you
want to change root to.  

open /etc/passwd and lookup the dummy account.  Between the first and second
colon (:) is the encrypted new password.  Copy that string verbatim into the
root
account.   Save your work.

Delete the dummy account.

Try doing an su again, and you should find the password has changed.  I'd
experiment once to be sure you did it right while you are actually at the
box, or if you have done a shadow password file.

Bill Ward
-Original Message-
From: Timothy Lillicrap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: recipient.list.not.shown; @nswcphdn.navy.mil
Subject: Changing root password remotely.


Hi I have two RH6.0 servers which I administer remotely from home.  They are
in
a different city which is a 3.5-4 hour drive away.  I would like to be able
to
remotely change the root password on these boxes, but I have run into a
problem...

I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to get
root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root and
give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for the
new
password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.

However, when I log off and then log back in as a regular user, and then try
to
su to root using my new password, it doesn't work (the first time I did this
is
scared the **it out of me as I thought I'd locked myself out of the system).

All that had happened though is that the old password was still in place and
I
could get root just fine with that.  

So my question is, what do I need to do change the password remotely

Thanks

Timothy Lillicrap


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Re: in.identd where

[Pete Peterson]

I thought surely someone would have responded to this by the
time I got around to reading it, but all the responses I've
see were from people who didn't read and see the fact that
identd wasn't installed. :-)


Well, you could *guess* and go to the RPM directory and try
"ls *ident*", which would work in this case. :-)

Otherwise, if you're patient, you could do:

[root@redhat60 RPMS]#  for rpm in *.rpm; do
> rpm -qlp $rpm | grep 'in\.identd' >/dev/null && echo $rpm
> done
pidentd-3.0.7-5.i386.rpm
[root@redhat60 RPMS]#

pete


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> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:52:57 +0100
> From: Gustav Schaffter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "redhat-list (Mailing list)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: in.identd where
> 
> Hi,
> 
> (Sorry, I must be brain-dead. :-)
> 
> I'm trying to find out what rpm on the RH6.1 CD contains the
> /usr/sbin/in.identd file, but I ain't getting there.
> 
> I know the file is in one of the .rpm's but which one? (It's not
> installed and therefore not found in the rpm database.)
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> Gustav


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Re: Load averages

[Bill Carlson]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, erik wrote:

> HI,
> 
> I have a quick question. I recently was doing several things at once
> and was really taxig my computer, and just for fun, i decided to check
> the load average.  Before this, I thought the load average went from 0
> - 1, but, my load average at the time was 1.25.  What exactly do the
> load average numbers mean?
>

The load average is a very basic indication of system load, I believe the
exact defination is "How many processes were waiting to run over the last
minute?".

>From the top man page---
This  line  displays the time the system has been up
and the three load averages for the system.  The load
averages  are  the average number of process ready to
run during the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes.   This  line
is  just  like  the  output of uptime(1).  The uptime
display may be toggled by the interactive l  command.
--- 

To get a better idea of system load, check into top, xosview and vmstat.
The load average may spike quite high(3-5), but the system is actually
idle.

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Re: 4.72 (was: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!)

[Ron Golan]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:03:15AM -0500, Wade Hampton wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Yesterday, I upgraded to the released NS 4.72 packages.  Same D*&^ 
> problem with Java.  Netscape crashed at least 4-5 times (especially
> bad when the wife was trying to do some work with it).
> 

[snip]

Its apparent that lots of people are have stability problems with
Netscape on Linux. I am not and I'm wondering why. It might be that I
don't use Communicator, only Navigator. It also might be that I don't
visit the sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript. In any case I'm
using netscape-navigator-4.7-1.1 and netscape-common-4.7-1.1 which
I've run through Fortify and I haven't had a Netscape crash since I
installed those packages (Install date: Sat 13 Nov 1999 10:36:19 PM
PST).


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Re: Signal 7 during RH 6.1 Install - Aieeeee!

[Bill Carlson]

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Jeffery Druzba wrote:

> Looking through all the material that comes up in google and any other 
> support area, shows that no one who has ever asked such a question as mine 
> really has much of an answer.
> 
> The best I have found is that there is some memory or bus error.
> 
> I simply want to know if I can use this machine or not for RH 6.1. Like I 
> said in my original message, I am willing to fix this problem in the machine 
> if it is fixable but I need to know what is causing the problem.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with this problem or a similar machine as 
> the one I describe in my original post?
>

Two thoughts:

1) Memory. Seems to be the biggest problem with linux, if your memory is
bad you'll get all kinds of strange errors. To test your system look for
memtest86, it does a good job checking memory and boots from a floppy
disk, no OS involved.

2) Check your installation media. You didn't say where your install
whatever (CDROM, NFS,FTP)  came from, it is possible it is corrupt. 

I'm assuming this is a fresh install of Redhat, FWIT I had a sig 7 long
ago on a machine during an upgrade that turned out to be an rpm problem. 

HTH,

Bill Carlson

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Re: Changing root password remotely.

[Eddie Strohmier]

Jonalthan:

I just tryed this on my box and I did not have to type passwd root. I su to
root and type passwd and I changed the passwd. To verify I logged in again
and the new password is in place

Eddie Strohmier
Bonwell Globalnet
www.bonwell.com


- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Ruano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: Changing root password remotely.


> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 12:16:47PM -0500, Timothy Lillicrap wrote:
>
> > I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to
get
> > root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root
and
> > give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for
the new
> > password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.
>
> did you issue 'passwd root' ? After su'ing to root, if you issue
> 'passwd' (with no arguments), it changes the original non-root user
> password!
>
> I dont know if this is generic, or depending on the parameters of su
> ('su -', or 'su').
>
> On the other hand, could it be that someone is restoring that password
> ?
>
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Re: F****ng fed up with Netscape 4.6x!

[Wade Hampton]

> I wonder how many lockups occur because of porno sites :-) That's where
> the real fng bad java is happening.

None for me.  My crashes were all on cnn.com, some travel sites, etc.
I stay away from the porn sites!  

Java is supposed to be safe, running in a sandbox.  It is supposed to
NOT take your application, display manager, X server, etc., down
with it :(  As it now stands, bad Java is a VERY GOOD DOS TOOL
THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST LINUX USERS!

CNN is a site that used to drive early 4.x browsers nuts and would
lock me up every few days.

Cheers,
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Re: Signal 7, weirdness

[Chris Dowling]

man 7 signal on my system shows:

 Signal   Value Action   Comment
 SIGEMT   7,-,7   G

action G refers to:
 G  Not a POSIX.1 conformant signal.

now, a bit of brief digging has unearthed the following hypothesis:
it occurs when you can't get a free page in memory

I found the following on a page at 
http://www.angelfire.com/ar/favaloro1/faqs1.html and ran it throug the
spanish to english translator on altavista (hence it's not the most
perfect translation). this seems to be what we are looking for:

  -snippet
  2,8  Aid!  it says signal signal to me 11 / 7 during the installation!

  Situation 1:  If during the installation obtens these messages is an
  indication of corruption of the memory in the bus or the best one of
  the cases than the distribution and/or the floppy disks of
  installation they are corrupt.  If the problem still persists having a
  distribution in good state, the then problem is the hardware.

  Situation 2:  Let us suppose that during the compilation of kernel a
  signal error 7 or 11 takes place.  In order to assure to us as it is
  the problem we followed these steps:

  1 If make stops, volve to tipear make, if it compiles a pair of lines
  and one becomes to stop the problem probably is hardware 

  2 there If make stops with the message " nothing to be donates " then
  tries the following thing:

  dd if=/dev/HARD_DISK of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=MEGS

  where hard disk is the name of your rigido disc ej hda and MEGS is the
  amount of megaytes of your disc, this force to read the archives
  source C and the binary GCC of the disc, after doing this runs make
  again and if make stops in the same place in which the problem stopped
  before probably it is of software (GCC or archives source C) But if it
  stops in another place, that is if make stops the problem randomly can
  be in a bad transference disc --- ram
  End Snippet

so it seems to be a problem with the memory, or more likely a problem with
the bus. (I personally have a suspicion that the actual board doesn't
handle paging properly for some reason, but I could be dead wrong)

that's about all I can offer on the subject, I hope it helps

Chris.

remember: catch a taxi instead

On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Hal Burgiss wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:54:23AM -0500, Edward Schernau wrote:
> > I too am getting Signal 7 during 6.1 installs
> > onto a 486.  I _also_ get Signal 7 crashes when I try to
> > compile ssh on a 486.
> > 
> > I wonder what Signal 7 is??
> 
> man 7 signal lists most signals -- but no info on 7 for some reason
> (at least on my 6.1 version).
> 
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Re: Changing root password remotely.

[Eddie Strohmier]

Tim:

Good question, I have read your procedure step by step and I have no problem
changing root password via telnet using this same method. I log in with my
username and password then su to root and give the current root password and
type "passwd" an hit enter and enter the new password twice. When I open a
second telnet box I find that the new password in place. Try doing this
follow the same procedure you just did to change the root passwd then "cd"
to /etc and do "ls -ltr" to see that passwd file has been changed then do a
"diff" on passwd and passwd- to see that there was a change in root passwd.
The output should show you the difference in your encryption of the passwd
file and its backup that was created as passwd-. Note I am also a RH 6.0
user with original kernel 2.2.5-15.

Eddie Strohmier
Bonwell Globalnet
www.bonwell.com

- Original Message -
From: Timothy Lillicrap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:16 PM
Subject: Changing root password remotely.


> Hi I have two RH6.0 servers which I administer remotely from home.  They
are in
> a different city which is a 3.5-4 hour drive away.  I would like to be
able to
> remotely change the root password on these boxes, but I have run into a
> problem...
>
> I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to
get
> root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root
and
> give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for
the new
> password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.
>
> However, when I log off and then log back in as a regular user, and then
try to
> su to root using my new password, it doesn't work (the first time I did
this is
> scared the **it out of me as I thought I'd locked myself out of the
system).
> All that had happened though is that the old password was still in place
and I
> could get root just fine with that.
>
> So my question is, what do I need to do change the password remotely
>
> Thanks
>
> Timothy Lillicrap
>
>
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Re: DSL and Linux

[Bill Carlson]

On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Dana Danet wrote:

> i am planning on implementing a server out of my house via dsl and i hear
> horror stories of users that know ip ranges given out by isp's and the scan
> them looking to get into boxes.  before i get my linux desktop and server
> configured for dsl what precautionary steps/implementations should i
> consider. i have a webramp 700s, has anyone used this device for a firewall
> to their linux network.

Just to be an alarmist, this happens with dynamic dialup as well. It takes
no brains and one wonders who would bother cracking a box on a dialup
line, but that is the state of the world today.

Anyone who has a box directly connected to the Net should take steps to
secure their box or be prepared to pay the price.


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Re: Changing root password remotely.

[Nico De Ranter]

1) consider installing ssh so your password doesn't go cleartext over the network :-)

2) I noticed that on some systems after an "su" if you use "passwd" you're actualy
changing the password of the user you were *before* the su.  Are you by any chance 
changing the root password to that of the user?

Another option: change the password on your local machine and then copy the encrypted
version from your /etc/passwd file (or /etc/shadow if you use shadow passwords) to the
/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow on the remote system. That way the new password doesn't go
over the net (ofcourse it doesn't matter if the next thing you do is a telnet to the
remote machine to test the new password :-)

Nico


On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Timothy Lillicrap wrote:

> Hi I have two RH6.0 servers which I administer remotely from home.  They are in
> a different city which is a 3.5-4 hour drive away.  I would like to be able to
> remotely change the root password on these boxes, but I have run into a
> problem...
> 
> I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to get
> root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root and
> give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for the new
> password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.
> 
> However, when I log off and then log back in as a regular user, and then try to
> su to root using my new password, it doesn't work (the first time I did this is
> scared the **it out of me as I thought I'd locked myself out of the system). 
> All that had happened though is that the old password was still in place and I
> could get root just fine with that.  
> 
> So my question is, what do I need to do change the password remotely
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Timothy Lillicrap
> 
> 
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