Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Hi Gordon, Thanks for your advice. I am preparing to perform a test on the hardware of my computer. One thing amazing me is it is a brand-new computer including its components, AMD CPU, motherboard, DDR Ram, hard disc, CD-Writer, Vedio card, etc. Win ME works fine on it (I have another hard disc). What I am in doubt is I used CD-Writer to boot RH7.2 CD at time of installation. Now I have memtest86 downloaded from Internet. At 10:01 PM 12/17/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Given the variety of problems you described, I wouldn't rule out bad >hardware. You can check your drives using 'e2fsck -c /dev/'. You >can check your RAM using "memtest86" (search for it on freshmeat). If >those turn up OK, test the processor by compiling the kernel a few times. How to test the processor by compiling the kernel. Which software/commands have to apply ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Updating Applications
On 17 Dec 2001, Chris Montgomery wrote: > I just recently installed RH7.1 and am wondering about the best way to > update apps. For example, I want to install the Galeon web browser. In this specific case, Galeon is included in Red Hat Linux 7.2. You can install the galeon package, and update its dependencies using packages from the newer distribution if you don't want to do the full upgrade. > Running the Gnome RPM application and using the Web Find option, I see > that the site (Red Hat?) that lists all the RPMs has the same thing I > already have installed, i.e., the versions of Gnome/Mozilla I need to > install Galeon aren't there. For that version of Red Hat Linux, no. Red Hat tends not to update packages that don't have serious problems. There would, therefore, normally not be an update to GNOME available specifically for 7.1. However, the later versions of the distributions will usually have updated packages, and binary compatibility should be good across "major" releases. (That is: packages for 7.2 should work on 7.1, though they may require other libraries and support packages be updated, too) > So, how is the best way to go about this? Should I be grabbing the > source/rpm files from Gnome and Mozilla rather than waiting for the > rpm files at Red Hat (or wherever the Gnome RPM app taps into)? Well, Red Hat isn't going to release an update for 7.1 (at least, not that I know of :), so if you want to stick with vendor supported packages, you and upgrade entirely to 7.2 or just get the GNOME packages you require. > BTW, who, exactly, puts out the Gnome apps? If you mean "GNOME binaries", then the answer is "whoever wants to". Red Hat builds and tests binary packages for their distribution. SuSE builds and tests their own, etc. Ximian offers the service of up-to-date core GNOME packages for a variety of Linux platforms, as well as non-core packages that are frequently not distributed by Linux vendors (e.g. Evolution, gnome-pilot, gtkmm, gnomemm...) > The Gnome site at gnome.org actually points to Ximian's site in one > place for downloading Gnome binary files. I thought Red Hat was the > producer of Gnome apps. Red Hat supports the packages that they distribute. If you're looking for something newer for whatever reason, you can get packages from a different vendor (Ximian). Red Hat won't support those, though :) > Another question: I've noticed that there are at least three package > managers - Gnome RPM, Ximian's Red-Carpet, and KDE also has one. Is > one any better than the other? GnoRPM and Kpackage are mostly the same. Red Carpet has additional features: it can query servers for information about the currently available packages for software those servers know about. It's geared toward their service of offering up-to-date packages. > Do they all use rpm databases that are consistent regarding file > versions, or does one pull more current source files than the others? All of them use the same rpm database, and they all use rpm's API to do it. There should never be a conflict between them. > And when updating apps with them, do they expunge the old app files or > do they just add to the files already there, filling up more disk > space? Just like 'rpm', when a package is updated, the old files are overwritten, and files no longer in the package are removed (except for config files, which are saved) -- If I had a dollar for every brain that you don't have, I'd have one dollar. - Squidward to SpongeBob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
On 17 Dec 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > >CDWR: > > > > > >Sony 16x/40x/10x (CR1611) > > > > Sony 16x/10x/40x > > > It is supported by Nero 5.5, Easy CD creator 5, Win on CD, etc > > (all for M$Win). But I am not sure in Linux. > > The store where I am thinking of buying the computer has the > following brand of CDRW: Yamaha, Plextor, Cyberdrive, Aopen, > Goldstar and Sony. This is a fairly good list of supported drives: http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html cdrdao uses the scglib from cdrecord, so you can expect the same drives to be supported. cdrdao is more useful than cdrecord in some situations, like when you want a more or less exact copy of an audio disc. Because cdrdao preserves the TOC and track gap data, it can produce more exact duplicates than cdrecord. It may also be of interest that cdrdao supports reading and writing CD-TEXT on drives that support the capability. I understand that some distributors use this for copy protection, so drives marked with this capability may be able to produce working copies of discs that other drives cannot. -- If I had a dollar for every brain that you don't have, I'd have one dollar. - Squidward to SpongeBob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Stephen Liu wrote: > Thanks for your continuous support and time spent. The problem is now solved > by re-installing RH7.2. But I am still interested to find out its cause and > its remedy for future use. Given the variety of problems you described, I wouldn't rule out bad hardware. You can check your drives using 'e2fsck -c /dev/'. You can check your RAM using "memtest86" (search for it on freshmeat). If those turn up OK, test the processor by compiling the kernel a few times. -- If I had a dollar for every brain that you don't have, I'd have one dollar. - Squidward to SpongeBob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Thanks Mike Stephen At 10:32 PM 12/17/2001 +, you wrote: >Hi Stephen, > > > Thanks for your advice. >Most folk thank me for Not giving advice :-) > > > 1) How to correct LIL- to boot Linux >There is an option in the LILO.conf (?) file to force use of LBA32, it is >something to do with using a big disk. try searching google Linux for >'Lilo1024 Cylinder limit'. As your system is up with KDE you may want to >configure Lilo from Linuxconf but I found the conf files easier. > >I can not remember the fix but I found it there (for RH7.0). someone on the >list will have a far better explaination but it may piont you in the right >direction in the meantime. As you can probably tell I have no understanding >but my machine did the same thing a while ago and I managed to bluff my way >to a fix ;-) > >HTH a little, > >Mike ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi Leonard, Lot of thanks for your detail information and time I shall digest those documentation first before finalizing my way to go.RAID 0, RAID 1, or RAID 5 , etc.? My plan is to build a Web Server using Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. to experience its function. I hesitate whether I should use RAID simultaneously at start. Because I have been away from Linux for sometime, almost 2 years and coming back recently. Therefore I have to refresh my technical memory on all commands, some of them having be changed or replaced which keeps me quite busy. Hardware is not a problem to me. I am in electronic industry manufacturing PSTN phones, having certain knowledge on uC (micro-controller). One additional question I expect to ask, in my case, whether it is advisable to apply RAID to build the Web Server simultaneously because the configuration of Apache, PHP, MySQL will keep me quite busy (I did it once in 2 years ago). Is RAID difficult to set up ? Which RAID, RAID 0+1, RAID 5, etc. shall be more applicable to my case ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen At 11:01 PM 12/17/2001 +0100, you wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > > I am using 2th Max 8KHA motherboard. Unfortunately it has only one FDD1 > > channel for ATA100 hard disc. Additionally it has 2 ATA33 IDE channels > > (altogether 3 channels). If I add an ATA100 controller then I shall have 3 > > ATA100 channels, having a waste (5 channels). > > The ATA33 channels will probably not slow your array down too much, as long >as you put each disk on a separate controller. Most disks will not saturate >the bus, although some modern 7200 rpm drives will. You will probably still >have quite a speed increment anyway. But of course, if you need the speed and >you have brand new 7200 rpm drives get yourself an extra ATA100 controller. > > > Could I use 2 hard discs having different specification and capacity ? > > Yes, but if you don't want to waste any space you will create partitions > that >are of equal size to construct the RAID array, ie, if hda1 and hdc1 are in >one >array you will want to make them similarly sized. > > > Could you please explain a little bid in detail, to mirror first few > > partitions on each hard disc ? How many hard disc you install ? 4 > hard discs > > to achieve RAID 0 + 1 ? > > Yes. (At least) four disks for RAID10. You could stripe more than two disks >as well. RAID10 is probably the best if you want both redundancy and (write) >speed, but you "waste" half of the disks. RAID5 is probably a better idea, >because you use n + 1 disks instead of 2n. As said in my previous post read >speed is great with RAID5, but don't expect any improvements in write speed. >The array I constructed writes as fast as a single disk on the Promise >controller. Writing to the onboard controller is a little slower, so you >could >argue write speed increases for the array a little as well. > It is definitely important you tweak the block sizes and parity algorithm >(the installer (for 7.1) doesn't allow the choice of the parity algorithm, so >you should create the RAID devices before or after you install). Recreate the >array with different block sizes (8k was best in my case) and time a dd of a >few hundred megs to see the difference. Wait with the timing until the device >is fully recreated (run top to see if the raid module is using up a lot of >CPU >time). If you are using RAID10 you will have to try quite some >permutations of >blocksizes for the stripes as well as the mirror. > Don't forget to check out the Software-RAID-HOWTO, which you can find under >/usr/share/doc/HOWTO if you installed the howto rpm. > > Bye, > > Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi, Ed Wilts, Lot of thanks for your information. I shall sum up all advices sent to me from those guys on the list first in parallel penetrating relevant documentation before finalizing my way to go.RAID 0, RAID 1, or RAID 5 , etc.? My plan is to build a Web Server using Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. to experience its function. I hesitate whether I should use RAID simultaneously at start. Because I have been away from Linux for sometime, almost 2 years and coming back recently. Therefore I have to refresh my technical memory on all commands, some of them having be changed or replaced which keeps me quite busy. Hardware is not a problem to me. I am in electronic industry manufacturing PSTN phones, having certain knowledge on uC (micro-controller). One additional question I expect to ask, in my case, whether it is advisable to apply RAID to build the Web Server simultaneously because the configuration of Apache, PHP, MySQL will keep me quite busy (I did it once in 2 years ago). Is RAID difficult to set up ? Which RAID, RAID 0+1, RAID 5, etc. shall be more applicable to my case ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen At 12:04 PM 12/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: >On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 01:32:20AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > > > > I am using 2th Max 8KHA motherboard. Unfortunately it has only one FDD1 > > channel for ATA100 hard disc. Additionally it has 2 ATA33 IDE channels > > (altogether 3 channels). If I add an ATA100 controller then I shall > have 3 > > ATA100 channels, having a waste (5 channels). Can TX2 ATA100 matches > FDD1 > > in speed ? > >I have no idea how your existing ATA100 controller compares to the TX2. You >could check the specs at Promise's web site or send them e-mail if you really >want to know. > > > Could I use 2 hard discs having different specification and capacity ? > >Probably. I haven't checked Linux's RAID implementation in detail, so I >can't >confirm what happens if you mix and fast and slow drive. You may limit your- >self to the slowest drive speed. As for capacity, the software implemenation >is by partition so you have to make sure that the 2 partitions you're >mirroring are the same size. > > > Could you please explain a little bid in detail, to mirror first few > > partitions on each hard disc ? How many hard disc you install ? 4 hard > > discs to achieve RAID 0 + 1 ? > >I installed 2 hard disks, partitioned each and used RAID-1 for /, /boot, /usr, >/home, and /var. I added swap partitions that aren't mirrored, and then >had 2 spare 10GB partitions on each drive. I don't use RAID-0 - in most >cases, >you don't need (nor want) this. > > >-- >Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: I hate Gnome
Robert Canary writes: >How do I get rid of this disgusting thing that Red Hat put on my >desktop? I want my old (fast) desktop from 5.2 back. The one with fast >opening xterms, and a slimmed down and simple taskbar. http://members.fcwm.org/glen/fvwm/ You'll see some screenshots and my current configuration files. 2.4.4 was just released. The Red Hat rpms are available for download from either the fvwm home page or from here: For rh 7.x http://members.fcwm.org/glen/rpms/fvwm-2.4.4-2.rh7.i386.rpm For rh 6.x http://members.fcwm.org/glen/rpms/fvwm-2.4.4-2.i386.rpm BTW, I'm running Fvwm on a 486-66, PI 75, and my AMD K6-2/500. Gnome will not run on the first two. Glen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cheapbytes
"Leonard den Ottolander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Cheapbytes currently announces the FTP version as: > > Looking for CDs containing the downloadable > version of the XXX XXX Linux distribution? > > Hint: The name has to do with an article of clothing > to keep your head warm. How can have I missed this information in their section Hot New product? Now it is clear. This trademark enforcement is new. This is why I was unaware ... Thanks for the info. -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (lack of) help in KVirc
Gary Stainburn writes: >Hi all, > >I'm using kvirc which I think is a great program. Unfortunately, help does >not seem to work. > >I had 2.1.0 which installed (I think) along with RH7.1 I've since upgraded >to 2.1.1 but help still does not work. > >If I try to use help, I get a mime error to STDERR as shown in the following >example where I typed '/help join' > >QTextBrowser: no mimesource for join.kvihelp > >I don't know if it's a KVirc problem or a KDE one, and I've no idea where to >start looking. I've checked thw KVirc FAQ and there's nothing in there about >it. Gary, I initially had that problem when I installed the rpm package. The folks at Kvirc told me that the packager had left it out when they built the rpm. They suggested I use the tar.gz version. Help has worked since. Glen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cheapbytes
On 17 Dec 2001 17:16:57 -0500 "Edward C. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David> Has the policy changed? I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 5.2 > around David> here that was sold by MacMillan, with explicit support > disclaimers David> of course ... > > In those days, we had a relationship with Macmillan; as time went on we > went our separate ways, but there was a period of time where they were > selling a copy of Red Hat Linux, and providing support themselves... == Didn't MacMillan, shortly thereafter develop a simialr relationship with Mandrake? May still exist for all I know Mike -- "It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone and a day to love someone but it takes a lifetime to forget someone." --Plato ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:25:27AM -0800, Monte Milanuk wrote: > > > On 17 Dec 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > > Why should I forget the S3? I have tight budget constraint, I have > > the S3 here, it has almost not been used. Even though other cards may > > be better suited, I can change the card later when the money comes > > in. Unless there is something technical that I am missing? > > > > FWIW, an older card may not handle the GUI installer that well. I have an > older machine acting as a server, but for various reasons, I need X > installed, so I tried the GUI installer at first. Wouldn't work. Kind of > odd, as this is a card that *used* to work just fine w/ X/Linux, a Matrox > Millenium w/ 4MB memory. Works fine if I use the text mode installer, and > set up X from there. YMMV I had problems on an ancient system at work with a similar card. Had to use the "lores" (or is it "loweres"???) option in the installer. But I think it was more likely because of the junky monitor I had. > I have a Yamaha IDE 16-10-40 CDRW, which works well under Linux. RH 7.2 > set everything up just fine, and after I grabbed XCDroast off the net and XCDroast comes with 7.2. Why bother to get it off the net? > installed it, I was burning CDs just fine. My only gripe is that the > vaunted 'Burn-Proof' feature is about as worthless as tits on a boar. > Doesn't work in Windows, and isn't recognized in Linux. Linux is a lot > more forgiving about that kind of stuff, so it isn't really an issue under > Linux, whereas under Windows, you could forget about running a browser > window while burning a CD. > > HTH, > > Monte > > > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." Hebrews 4:12 (niv) -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Similar question for an upcoming Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. It comes with XP already installed. Will I be able to install RH 7.2 on another partition, write grub to the bootsector, and have Grub dual boot XP and 7.2? Or do I need to install Grub/RH 7.2 first? - Original Message - From: "Bret Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:16 AM Subject: Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop > Michael Scottaline wrote: > > > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > > since 6.2 I should install? > > == > > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation > > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > > Mike > > > Outstanding ! > > Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. > > Bret > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: I hate Gnome
>How do I get rid of this disgusting thing that Red Hat put on my >desktop? I want my old (fast) desktop from 5.2 back. The one with fast >opening xterms, and a slimmed down and simple taskbar. >robert canary Why do you think I continue to run OpenWindows, with olvwm? Things run fast and it is EXTREMELY EASY to configure. Simple text files allow me to start any process and place them in any of the NINE desktops that I have as a default. Sure, OpenWindows is old and is not graphically "neat." But I don't give a crap. It works. All I want are my programs to run. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL: http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: I hate Gnome
By the description you probably mean fvwm, right? Try echo "exec fvwm" > ~/.xinitrc Thus spake Robert Canary, on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 05:08:46PM -0600: > How do I get rid of this disgusting thing that Red Hat put on my > desktop? I want my old (fast) desktop from 5.2 back. The one with fast > opening xterms, and a slimmed down and simple taskbar. > > -- > robert canary > system services > OhioCounty.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (270)298-9331 Office > (270)298-7449 Fax > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Jose Celestino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - for u in mailer-daemon postmaster root ; do \ echo "| sed s/^Delivered-To:.*$/Cc:\ $SENDER/g | \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject" > ~alias/.qmail-$u ; done ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: I hate Gnome
$HOME/.xinitrc would be a nice place to start. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
I hate Gnome
How do I get rid of this disgusting thing that Red Hat put on my desktop? I want my old (fast) desktop from 5.2 back. The one with fast opening xterms, and a slimmed down and simple taskbar. -- robert canary system services OhioCounty.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (270)298-9331 Office (270)298-7449 Fax ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Rebuilding Kerberos
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 at 2:14pm (-0800), Ben Ocean wrote: > Hi; > I've taken over a new RH71 box and I'm working with kerberos for the first > time. I've run into a strange problem (see below) that I haven't been able > to figure out so I thought I'd rebuild from source to be able to run make > check, etc. But if I do this I'm going to have to rpm -e certain rpms. My > question is which? Here are the likely candidates: > > #rpm -qa |grep krb > krbafs-1.0.5-1 > krb5-devel-1.2.2-5 > krb5-server-1.2.2-5 > pam_krb5-1.31-1 > krb5-libs-1.2.2-5 > krb5-workstation-1.2.2-5 I wouldn't worry about messing with your installed RPM's just at the momment. Perhaps run 'rpm -V' on the krb packages but don't go tearing out the whole lot untill you understand what the error is about... > > The problem which has prompted this is that I can run kadmin.local without > error but when I run kadmin I get this error: > > #/usr/kerberos/sbin/kadmin > Authenticating as principal [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > password. > kadmin: Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while > initializing kadmin interface Hmm.. you're actually running this on the KDC I assume since you're doing kadmin.local and that works. Do you have the kerberos network daemons running correctly - kadmin, krb5kdc, ect? Assuming yes - can you manually resolve the kdc's listed in /etc/krb5.conf? Looking at the sample config... [realms] EXAMPLE.COM = { kdc = kerberos.example.com:88 admin_server = kerberos.example.com:749 default_domain = example.com } ... does kerberos.example.com resolve for you? Subsituting your own values of course :) Anyway... some places to start looking... M. -- WebCentral Pty Ltd Australia's #1 Internet Web Hosting Company Level 1, 96 Lytton Road. Network Operations - Systems Engineer PO Box 4169, East Brisbane. phone: +61 7 3249 2500 Queensland, Australia.pgp key id: 0x900E515F ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: NICS and clocks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Statux wrote: >> I have received a RH6.1 with two nics. How can I tell if RH is >> configured to route packets between the two interfaces or not. > >The 'route' command usually gives most of this info. Sounds like you want to forward, in which case: # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 1 If the answer is 0, you're not forwarding. Do: # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to enable it. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPB51E79BpdPKTBGtEQIV0QCfW5cZdzSr2qTJzydvySI2oxxNd0QAoP38 RQbufd8FA68e63diw/uqDbnD =UhiV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
IP Accounting in IPtables [Repost]
Hi Does anyone know how to add accounting to a chain such as Any method acceptable! #SMTP $IPTABLES -t filter -A INPUT -p tcp -s 0/0 -d $INET_IP_RANGE --dport $SMTP_PORT -j ACCEPT even if I have to make another accounting chain such as $IPTABLES -N SMTPAccnt how do I get the data into it Many thanks Mike This mail was processed by Mail essentials for Exchange/SMTP, the email security & management gateway. Mail essentials adds content checking, email encryption, anti spam, anti virus, attachment compression, personalised auto responders, archiving and more to your Microsoft Exchange Server or SMTP mail server. For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Hi Stephen, > Thanks for your advice. Most folk thank me for Not giving advice :-) > 1) How to correct LIL- to boot Linux There is an option in the LILO.conf (?) file to force use of LBA32, it is something to do with using a big disk. try searching google Linux for 'Lilo1024 Cylinder limit'. As your system is up with KDE you may want to configure Lilo from Linuxconf but I found the conf files easier. I can not remember the fix but I found it there (for RH7.0). someone on the list will have a far better explaination but it may piont you in the right direction in the meantime. As you can probably tell I have no understanding but my machine did the same thing a while ago and I managed to bluff my way to a fix ;-) HTH a little, Mike ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: NICS and clocks
> I have received a RH6.1 with two nics. How can I tell if RH is > configured to route packets between the two interfaces or not. The 'route' command usually gives most of this info. > Secondly, although both the system clock and the hardware clock > show the correct time, file creation times are always six hours > in the future (which corresponds to UTC). How do I correct this? Well, what I do on this system is: hardware clock is set to GMT (I'm GMT-5). Then, my /etc/sysconfig/clock file looks like this: UTC=true ARC=false ZONE="US/Eastern" Which basically, at boot time, offsets the hardware clock based on the ZONE defined. Time works great. Daylight Saving Time rollovers back and forth work great. Time and date stamps work great. Only thing is that sometimes services log in GMT, but that's unrelated. -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Updated Install of 7.1
I just finished an upgrade of a RHL 5.2/6.0 upto a BoxSet RHL 7.1. The install went fine, and all the updates installed fine. However, I hate this damn desktop. It looks like crap and is sluggish. When I open a term window...it takes forever. And when I click on a term window it takes forever to redraw. And that toolbar at the bottom is completely useless. 1" of the lower screen realstate is wasted. How can I get me old taskbar back with the CPU usage graph, desktop space, and time? I tried using the Gnome toolbox to change the window manager back to the fvmw2 but it didn't change the things that most annoying. Any suggestion? -- robert canary system services OhioCounty.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] (270)298-9331 Office (270)298-7449 Fax ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cheapbytes
> "David" == David Talkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Carter, Shaun G wrote: >> This is most likely in response to the letter from Red Hat advising that >> their version of Linux can be distributed, just not as the Red Hat name. David> Has the policy changed? I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 5.2 around David> here that was sold by MacMillan, with explicit support disclaimers David> of course ... In those days, we had a relationship with Macmillan; as time went on we went our separate ways, but there was a period of time where they were selling a copy of Red Hat Linux, and providing support themselves... Ed -- Ed BaileyRed Hat, Inc. http://www.redhat.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Cheapbytes
Hi, > > Has the policy changed? > Yes. Actually no. But they are enforcing it due to support requests from people who bought FTP and/or trimmed versions. So they don't want copies of the FTP version being called Red Hat Linux any more. This makes identification of (verbatim) copies of the FTP version a little difficult, as Dominic experienced. Bye, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Rebuilding Kerberos
Hi; I've taken over a new RH71 box and I'm working with kerberos for the first time. I've run into a strange problem (see below) that I haven't been able to figure out so I thought I'd rebuild from source to be able to run make check, etc. But if I do this I'm going to have to rpm -e certain rpms. My question is which? Here are the likely candidates: #rpm -qa |grep krb krbafs-1.0.5-1 krb5-devel-1.2.2-5 krb5-server-1.2.2-5 pam_krb5-1.31-1 krb5-libs-1.2.2-5 krb5-workstation-1.2.2-5 The problem which has prompted this is that I can run kadmin.local without error but when I run kadmin I get this error: #/usr/kerberos/sbin/kadmin Authenticating as principal [EMAIL PROTECTED] with password. kadmin: Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while initializing kadmin interface Any ideas on either of these would be appreciated. TIA, BenO ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Cheapbytes
Hi David, > >This is most likely in response to the letter from Red Hat advising that > >their version of Linux can be distributed, just not as the Red Hat name. > > Has the policy changed? I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 5.2 around > here that was sold by MacMillan, with explicit support disclaimers of > course ... Yes. See the thread "Red Hat: You can distribute Red Hat Linux, just name it something else" from around last friday. Also have a look at http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/12/10/2014239 Cheapbytes currently announces the FTP version as: Looking for CDs containing the downloadable version of the XXX XXX Linux distribution? Hint: The name has to do with an article of clothing to keep your head warm. Bye, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi Stephen, Ed, > Ideally, you'd connect each drive to a separate IDE channel. It doesn't matter > if one is the master on its bus and the other is slave, as long as both drives > are on separate channels. I would suggest you only use the devices as master, or it might be your RAID device is waiting for the master device. The best (fastest) thing to do is to not use any slave devices, or maybe only a cdrom you seldomly use. > I picked up a Promise TX2 ATA/100 controller from http://www.mwave.com for less > than $30 and added 2 new ATA100 40GB drives to it. This makes I/O *very* fast. I made a RAID 5 device with 3 disks using the same controller. Indeed, very fast. Read speeds of twice the speed of a single channel (up to 70 MB/s hdparm -tT values). Write speed about equal to a single disk, but since this is a web server that'll do. CU, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi Stephen, > I am using 2th Max 8KHA motherboard. Unfortunately it has only one FDD1 > channel for ATA100 hard disc. Additionally it has 2 ATA33 IDE channels > (altogether 3 channels). If I add an ATA100 controller then I shall have 3 > ATA100 channels, having a waste (5 channels). The ATA33 channels will probably not slow your array down too much, as long as you put each disk on a separate controller. Most disks will not saturate the bus, although some modern 7200 rpm drives will. You will probably still have quite a speed increment anyway. But of course, if you need the speed and you have brand new 7200 rpm drives get yourself an extra ATA100 controller. > Could I use 2 hard discs having different specification and capacity ? Yes, but if you don't want to waste any space you will create partitions that are of equal size to construct the RAID array, ie, if hda1 and hdc1 are in one array you will want to make them similarly sized. > Could you please explain a little bid in detail, to mirror first few > partitions on each hard disc ? How many hard disc you install ? 4 hard discs > to achieve RAID 0 + 1 ? Yes. (At least) four disks for RAID10. You could stripe more than two disks as well. RAID10 is probably the best if you want both redundancy and (write) speed, but you "waste" half of the disks. RAID5 is probably a better idea, because you use n + 1 disks instead of 2n. As said in my previous post read speed is great with RAID5, but don't expect any improvements in write speed. The array I constructed writes as fast as a single disk on the Promise controller. Writing to the onboard controller is a little slower, so you could argue write speed increases for the array a little as well. It is definitely important you tweak the block sizes and parity algorithm (the installer (for 7.1) doesn't allow the choice of the parity algorithm, so you should create the RAID devices before or after you install). Recreate the array with different block sizes (8k was best in my case) and time a dd of a few hundred megs to see the difference. Wait with the timing until the device is fully recreated (run top to see if the raid module is using up a lot of CPU time). If you are using RAID10 you will have to try quite some permutations of blocksizes for the stripes as well as the mirror. Don't forget to check out the Software-RAID-HOWTO, which you can find under /usr/share/doc/HOWTO if you installed the howto rpm. Bye, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Cheapbytes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carter, Shaun G wrote: >This is most likely in response to the letter from Red Hat advising that >their version of Linux can be distributed, just not as the Red Hat name. Has the policy changed? I have a copy of Red Hat Linux 5.2 around here that was sold by MacMillan, with explicit support disclaimers of course ... - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPB5nSb9BpdPKTBGtEQILngCfbdNkZNes4D5UDRBmF612pcEW3JUAoIF7 hvlmzF1JuVw6tEcOiUGe8sVj =Fh17 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Updating Applications
Newbie questions I just recently installed RH7.1 and am wondering about the best way to update apps. For example, I want to install the Galeon web browser. According to the Galeon download page, "The current version of Galeon has been tested with Gnome 1.4 and Mozilla 0.9.6." From what I can tell, the version of Mozilla that I have installed (from the Red Hat 7.1 CDs) is 0.7 and the Gnome core package I have installed is 1.2-4-16. Running the Gnome RPM application and using the Web Find option, I see that the site (Red Hat?) that lists all the RPMs has the same thing I already have installed, i.e., the versions of Gnome/Mozilla I need to install Galeon aren't there. So, how is the best way to go about this? Should I be grabbing the source/rpm files from Gnome and Mozilla rather than waiting for the rpm files at Red Hat (or wherever the Gnome RPM app taps into)? BTW, who, exactly, puts out the Gnome apps? The Gnome site at gnome.org actually points to Ximian's site in one place for downloading Gnome binary files. I thought Red Hat was the producer of Gnome apps. Another question: I've noticed that there are at least three package managers - Gnome RPM, Ximian's Red-Carpet, and KDE also has one. Is one any better than the other? Do they all use rpm databases that are consistent regarding file versions, or does one pull more current source files than the others? And when updating apps with them, do they expunge the old app files or do they just add to the files already there, filling up more disk space? Sorry to be so ignorant of all this, but I'm well, ignorant and trying to learn. Thanks, Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Cheapbytes
I have bought from Cheapbytes in the past, and I recall they had some legal issues on labeling the CDs as "RedHat". What they do is download the iso image from RedHat and burning it for sale (AFAIR, there used to be little differences on the official CDs and the images available to download from RedHat). You may have noticed how they do not have the new SuSE CDs. Back to what really matters, I do not remember having any trouble with the Cheapbytes RH CDs. Hope this helps. Best wishes, -Manuel A. Camacho Q. -Original Message- From: Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Redhat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 17 Dec 2001 16:13:16 -0500 Subject: Cheapbytes > > > As someone bought an unofficial version of RH7.2 from cheapbytes? > I have not seen it explicitly on their listing. What I have seen > is: > > Cheapbytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD set: > > which points to > > Catalog No.: 0070010722 > Publisher: CheapBytes > CheapBytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD Set > Our Price: $7.99 > The media format of this product is that of a quality > replicated CD. > > Includes: > > Included with this CD-ROM set is the > following: > >x86 CPU Installation CD #1 Containing Version > 7.2 of XXX XXX >x86 CPU Installation CD #2 Containing Version > 7.2 of XXX XXX >Source CD #1 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX >Source CD #2 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX >Documentatin CD Containing Version 7.2 of XXX > XXX > > It looks to me that there is an error and that would be the > unofficial version of RH7.2. > > > Any Idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dominic Mitchell > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
NICS and clocks
Hello Two newbie (sorry) questions for you: I have received a RH6.1 with two nics. How can I tell if RH is configured to route packets between the two interfaces or not. Secondly, although both the system clock and the hardware clock show the correct time, file creation times are always six hours in the future (which corresponds to UTC). How do I correct this? Thanks! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Cheapbytes
This is most likely in response to the letter from Red Hat advising that their version of Linux can be distributed, just not as the Red Hat name. Shaun -Original Message- From: Dominic Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 4:13 PM To: Redhat Subject: Cheapbytes As someone bought an unofficial version of RH7.2 from cheapbytes? I have not seen it explicitly on their listing. What I have seen is: Cheapbytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD set: which points to Catalog No.: 0070010722 Publisher: CheapBytes CheapBytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD Set Our Price: $7.99 The media format of this product is that of a quality replicated CD. Includes: Included with this CD-ROM set is the following: x86 CPU Installation CD #1 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX x86 CPU Installation CD #2 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Source CD #1 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Source CD #2 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Documentatin CD Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX It looks to me that there is an error and that would be the unofficial version of RH7.2. Any Idea? -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: samba on red hat 7.x
Hi Hidong I have not set-up samba on rh7.x yet, but the inet.conf file in rh has been replaced with xinetd.conf. I have not had much luck in figuring the structure of this file yet. Hope this helps. david On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any specific documentation on installing Samba on Red Hat 7.x? > I had Samba running on Red Hat 6.2, but after upgrading to 7.0, I can't > get Samba running anymore. The documentation I used to install Samba on > 6.2 has some steps which don't appear to be relevant to 7.x, like > mention of /etc/inetd.conf. I would appreciate any help or pointers to > help on getting Samba running on Red Hat 7.x. Thanks, > > > > Hidong > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Cheapbytes
As someone bought an unofficial version of RH7.2 from cheapbytes? I have not seen it explicitly on their listing. What I have seen is: Cheapbytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD set: which points to Catalog No.: 0070010722 Publisher: CheapBytes CheapBytes Linux x86 CPU Version 7.2 CD Set Our Price: $7.99 The media format of this product is that of a quality replicated CD. Includes: Included with this CD-ROM set is the following: x86 CPU Installation CD #1 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX x86 CPU Installation CD #2 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Source CD #1 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Source CD #2 Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX Documentatin CD Containing Version 7.2 of XXX XXX It looks to me that there is an error and that would be the unofficial version of RH7.2. Any Idea? -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
check pricewatch.com i found a plextor 8x4x32 for around $80 - Original Message - From: "Dominic Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Some questions on hardware > > > > "Michael S. Dunsavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > check out www.linux.org CD writing howto for cdr compatibility > > Thanks for the info. I have just checked. However, the price > list does not include the manufacturer code. I have to call the > store for this info. > > Can I assume that most CDR will at least be good for reading data, > but some will fail as a writer? > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Dominic Mitchell > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
Generally, if the CD has an atapi interface, it should be OK. Also if CD creator or Nero works on it, it should be OK with the Linux apps such as CDParanoia, CDToaster, etc. Generally speaking that is... mw Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > "Michael S. Dunsavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > check out www.linux.org CD writing howto for cdr compatibility > > Thanks for the info. I have just checked. However, the price > list does not include the manufacturer code. I have to call the > store for this info. > > Can I assume that most CDR will at least be good for reading data, > but some will fail as a writer? > > Thanks. > > -- > Dominic Mitchell > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
yes. I believe the driver would be mostly for the burning. - Original Message - From: "Dominic Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Some questions on hardware > > > > "Michael S. Dunsavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > check out www.linux.org CD writing howto for cdr compatibility > > Thanks for the info. I have just checked. However, the price > list does not include the manufacturer code. I have to call the > store for this info. > > Can I assume that most CDR will at least be good for reading data, > but some will fail as a writer? > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Dominic Mitchell > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
"Michael S. Dunsavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > check out www.linux.org CD writing howto for cdr compatibility Thanks for the info. I have just checked. However, the price list does not include the manufacturer code. I have to call the store for this info. Can I assume that most CDR will at least be good for reading data, but some will fail as a writer? Thanks. -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Finding open ports
Perhaps there is a reason why these ports are blocked at the firewall. Our security model would forbid opening such a hole - in fact we open no holes. And there are no user accounts on the firewall - which is damn good security policy. On the firewalls I admin, the moment someone starts an nmap scan their IP address is permanently blocked from accessing our nets. The one and only correct answer is to review the security policy with the local security administrator and see what policies are in place. If there is a way, work with the admin to gain the access. If it is not allowed, accept it. At many sites, doing an end-around the security policy is a sure way to be invited to join the ranks of the unemployed. - rick warner On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Oscar Castaneda V. wrote: > > Ask your local sysadmin to open an account for you in the firewall. ssh into the >firewall and then into your workstation. Not sure how secure this is but it can work >while you find a workaround. > > To find an open port you can use nmap. > > greetings, > oscar > -- > PGP Key fingerprint = 87 83 5F D3 8D D4 B9 DC 4F 15 B1 68 4E FE 2D AE > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 01:32:20AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > > I am using 2th Max 8KHA motherboard. Unfortunately it has only one FDD1 > channel for ATA100 hard disc. Additionally it has 2 ATA33 IDE channels > (altogether 3 channels). If I add an ATA100 controller then I shall have 3 > ATA100 channels, having a waste (5 channels). Can TX2 ATA100 matches FDD1 > in speed ? I have no idea how your existing ATA100 controller compares to the TX2. You could check the specs at Promise's web site or send them e-mail if you really want to know. > Could I use 2 hard discs having different specification and capacity ? Probably. I haven't checked Linux's RAID implementation in detail, so I can't confirm what happens if you mix and fast and slow drive. You may limit your- self to the slowest drive speed. As for capacity, the software implemenation is by partition so you have to make sure that the 2 partitions you're mirroring are the same size. > Could you please explain a little bid in detail, to mirror first few > partitions on each hard disc ? How many hard disc you install ? 4 hard > discs to achieve RAID 0 + 1 ? I installed 2 hard disks, partitioned each and used RAID-1 for /, /boot, /usr, /home, and /var. I added swap partitions that aren't mirrored, and then had 2 spare 10GB partitions on each drive. I don't use RAID-0 - in most cases, you don't need (nor want) this. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Finding open ports
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 05:59:11PM -0700, Blake Thornton wrote: > OK, this is probably a bit of a cracker question, but I'm trying to get > into my own box. > > My box is behind a firewall and want to ssh into it. I have asked the > admin to open the port for me, but he's not moving as fast as I would like > and I hate to get too pushy about it. > > So, I am thinking that all I need to do is find an open port and put this > port into my sshd_config file. > > Right now, all I can think of is trial and error: run ssh on a port and > then try to ssh into my box. If it doesn't work, I try another port, > until hopefully I find an open port. > > Any thoughts? Thanks > Ask your local sysadmin to open an account for you in the firewall. ssh into the firewall and then into your workstation. Not sure how secure this is but it can work while you find a workaround. To find an open port you can use nmap. greetings, oscar -- PGP Key fingerprint = 87 83 5F D3 8D D4 B9 DC 4F 15 B1 68 4E FE 2D AE ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi, At 11:06 AM 12/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I picked up a Promise TX2 ATA/100 controller from http://www.mwave.com for >less >than $30 and added 2 new ATA100 40GB drives to it. I am using 2th Max 8KHA motherboard. Unfortunately it has only one FDD1 channel for ATA100 hard disc. Additionally it has 2 ATA33 IDE channels (altogether 3 channels). If I add an ATA100 controller then I shall have 3 ATA100 channels, having a waste (5 channels). Can TX2 ATA100 matches FDD1 in speed ? Could I use 2 hard discs having different specification and capacity ? >This makes I/O *very* >fast. I used Linux software-based RAID 1 to mirror my first few partitions >and left 2 un-mirrored partitions to hold data backups. Could you please explain a little bid in detail, to mirror first few partitions on each hard disc ? How many hard disc you install ? 4 hard discs to achieve RAID 0 + 1 ? B.R. Stephen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ASUS A7V motherboard
Michael George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a system with the ASUS A7V motherboards in it. It's got BIOS version > 1004D in it and I see the latest BIOS version is 1009. Everything on the > system seems to work fine, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to > flash it anyway... > > Anyone know what the "good" versions of the BIOS are? I never had problems upgrading, and the earlier ones are known to have serious bugs. I would definitely upgrade to the latest released bios (not the beta one, though). -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 12:05:27AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: > I am aware of hardware RAID on M$Win OS using a controller connecting to 2 > hard discs. But I am interested to learn whether Linux offers software > controller to connect 2 hard discs. If "Yes" then how to make connection > to 2 discs ? One to Primary IDE another to Secondary IDE, both as master > ? Or to the same IDE, one as master another as slave ? Ideally, you'd connect each drive to a separate IDE channel. It doesn't matter if one is the master on its bus and the other is slave, as long as both drives are on separate channels. The reason for this is that IDE does not allow for simultaneous access to two drives on the same channel. I picked up a Promise TX2 ATA/100 controller from http://www.mwave.com for less than $30 and added 2 new ATA100 40GB drives to it. This makes I/O *very* fast. I used Linux software-based RAID 1 to mirror my first few partitions and left 2 un-mirrored partitions to hold data backups. .../Ed -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Paging Up/Down While Viewing HTML
Actually, I was partly wrong. Paging in Netscape does in fact move up and down an entire screen, but the other apps I mentioned don't. Chris On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 10:25, Chris Montgomery wrote: > Howdy, > > I've noticed that whenever I page up/down in an application that is > displaying HTML-like information that the displayed information moves > only a half screen at a time. I first noticed this when using the Gnome > RPM package manager, but it persists in apps like Netscape browser and > my email app, Evolution, when reading HTML mail. > > Is there a system-wide setting somewhere to change the way HTML > documents get paged? I would like to be able to move up/down in a > document a whole screen at a time. > > Running RH7.1 here. > > Thanks, > > Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
On 17 Dec 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > Why should I forget the S3? I have tight budget constraint, I have > the S3 here, it has almost not been used. Even though other cards may > be better suited, I can change the card later when the money comes > in. Unless there is something technical that I am missing? > FWIW, an older card may not handle the GUI installer that well. I have an older machine acting as a server, but for various reasons, I need X installed, so I tried the GUI installer at first. Wouldn't work. Kind of odd, as this is a card that *used* to work just fine w/ X/Linux, a Matrox Millenium w/ 4MB memory. Works fine if I use the text mode installer, and set up X from there. YMMV > > > > > >CDWR: > > > > > >Sony 16x/40x/10x (CR1611) > > > > Sony 16x/10x/40x > > > It is supported by Nero 5.5, Easy CD creator 5, Win on CD, etc > > (all for M$Win). But I am not sure in Linux. > > The store where I am thinking of buying the computer has the > following brand of CDRW: Yamaha, Plextor, Cyberdrive, Aopen, > Goldstar and Sony. > > The RH7.2 compatibility list does not give me much information on > these. > I have a Yamaha IDE 16-10-40 CDRW, which works well under Linux. RH 7.2 set everything up just fine, and after I grabbed XCDroast off the net and installed it, I was burning CDs just fine. My only gripe is that the vaunted 'Burn-Proof' feature is about as worthless as tits on a boar. Doesn't work in Windows, and isn't recognized in Linux. Linux is a lot more forgiving about that kind of stuff, so it isn't really an issue under Linux, whereas under Windows, you could forget about running a browser window while burning a CD. HTH, Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Paging Up/Down While Viewing HTML
Howdy, I've noticed that whenever I page up/down in an application that is displaying HTML-like information that the displayed information moves only a half screen at a time. I first noticed this when using the Gnome RPM package manager, but it persists in apps like Netscape browser and my email app, Evolution, when reading HTML mail. Is there a system-wide setting somewhere to change the way HTML documents get paged? I would like to be able to move up/down in a document a whole screen at a time. Running RH7.1 here. Thanks, Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
check out www.linux.org CD writing howto for cdr compatibility - Original Message - From: "Dominic Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Some questions on hardware > > > > Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi Dominic, > > > > >I am buying a new computer for wife --- She wants an M$ box! > > >Well I get to install Linux to on it :) > > > > Are you going to buy a computer as a solid-state with components > > selected by yourself or to build a computer yourself from parts > > purchased. > > I am not building it, I am selecting the parts > > > Actually it is not difficult to assemble a computer > > from components by yourself. > > > > For Linux please bear in mind don't choose the latest components > > available on market otherwise you need to do a lot of work. > > > I have been using Linux since RH4.1 --- dual boot first then only > Linux since the RH5.x version. I just don change computer often > > > > Which version of Linux and M$Windows you are going to install ? > > It should be RH7.2, I am not sure about the M$ version, maybe M$98 > > > >Memory: Should I invest in DDR memory instead of pc133mhz? > > > > DDR is better but check the spec of motherboard whether it is > > supported > > It think it only support DDR > > > > > >Video card: > > > > > >I have an Older S3 that I almost never used so it should work. > > >If I was to consider a new Video card what would be a reasonable > > >choice --- not too expensive ... Although this a PCI card, if the > > >board requires an agp technologie I am was maybe thinking of a > > >Matrox G450 > > > > Forget the older S3. Get Matrox G45, Win Fast, for AGP 4X, etc. > > Why should I forget the S3? I have tight budget constraint, I have > the S3 here, it has almost not been used. Even though other cards may > be better suited, I can change the card later when the money comes > in. Unless there is something technical that I am missing? > > > > > > >CDWR: > > > > > >Sony 16x/40x/10x (CR1611) > > > > Sony 16x/10x/40x > > > It is supported by Nero 5.5, Easy CD creator 5, Win on CD, etc > > (all for M$Win). But I am not sure in Linux. > > The store where I am thinking of buying the computer has the > following brand of CDRW: Yamaha, Plextor, Cyberdrive, Aopen, > Goldstar and Sony. > > The RH7.2 compatibility list does not give me much information on > these. > > > Thanks for your help. > > > -- > Dominic Mitchell > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Thanks B.R. Stephen At 09:02 AM 12/17/2001 -0600, you wrote: >On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:55:13 +0800 >Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for your continuous support and time spent. The problem is now > > solved by re-installing RH7.2. But I am still interested to find out > > its cause and its remedy for future use. > > > > On Monday 17 December 2001 22:18, you wrote: > > > > > Does a bootdisk work? If so, it's probably a geometry mismatch. If > > > not, or if you didn't make a bootdisk to try it with, there's more > > > work. Here's what's needed if you can't test it with a bootdisk or > > > it failed using that, too. > > > > A bootdisk worked but have to use 'I', the interactive operation, to > > turn off WINE. How to find out geometry mismatch ? > > > > > The second stage boot loader has been started, but it can't load > > > the descriptor table from the map file. This is typically caused > > > by a media failure or by a geometry mismatch. > > > > How to rectify it in future if its failure is due to geometry mismatch > > ? > >That was answered already, in the part about manually partitioning and >using fdisk and (possibly) having to set the proper CHS, etc. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > B.R. > > Stephen > > > > > I'd first look at the "geometry mismatch" part to see if that's it. > > > If it's "media failure" that's so broad as to be almost impossible > > > to track down. But if it meant that the drive was bad (one possible > > > definition) then you'd never be able to get it to boot all of the > > > way no matter what. > > > > > > The easiest way to check the geometry is to first find out what the > > > geometry of the drive should be. Most times it's labelled right on > > > it. In some, you'll need to lok on the website somewhere to find > > > out. > > > > > > Then restart the installation. When you get to disk partitioning, > > > choose fdisk. At the commandline enter "p" to see what you have. 3 > > > things that you should note. First, does it have the right number of > > > CHS specified for what you know it should be? Second, take a look at > > > the "blocks" column and see if there are any plus (+) signs attached > > > to any of the numbers. Third, are there any overlaps of partitions > > > (i.e. sda1 ends on 100 and sda2 starts on 100)? > > > > > > If the first instance is a problem, you'll need to go into expert > > > mode and fix it (too long of an explanation on how, so grab some > > > howtos and start reading). If the second one is a problem, you'll > > > need to repartition (maybe even manually) to fix it. (I allowed the > > > installer to auto partition for me once and it ended up like this. I > > > used it that way for over 1.5 years before I finally fixed it. A > > > bootdisk will usually still work if it's this problem.) If the third > > > part is it, same as the second part: repartition and likely do so > > > manually to prevent the problem > > > > > > That's about the best shot I can make at this point. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi Leonard, Thanks for your response and advice. At 03:25 PM 12/17/2001 +0100, you wrote: > The use of RAID 0 with stripes on a single disk is pointless. You want to >stripe to gain performance. But if you use stripes on a single disk you will >probably even loose some performance due to the overhead. Even the use of >separate disks on the same controller is discouraged for IDE. You should use >two disks on separate controllers. I am aware of hardware RAID on M$Win OS using a controller connecting to 2 hard discs. But I am interested to learn whether Linux offers software controller to connect 2 hard discs. If "Yes" then how to make connection to 2 discs ? One to Primary IDE another to Secondary IDE, both as master ? Or to the same IDE, one as master another as slave ? Could you shed me some light ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen > RAID 1 is used where redundancy is needed. Even if you use two disks on >separate controllers the RAID 1 array will probably be somewhat slower than a >single disk for writing. Read speed might be somewhat increased if you choose >the right stripe size. When using two partitions on one disk you can expect >the write speed to drop to half that of a single partition, because >everything >has to be written to two partitions. And if you are lucky read speed does not >drop far below that of a single partition. You will have some redundancy this >way, but it is useless if the disk fails. > Really, if you want to build a RAID system you should go with two disks on >separate controllers at least. > > Bye, > > Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Dominic, > > >I am buying a new computer for wife --- She wants an M$ box! > >Well I get to install Linux to on it :) > > Are you going to buy a computer as a solid-state with components > selected by yourself or to build a computer yourself from parts > purchased. I am not building it, I am selecting the parts > Actually it is not difficult to assemble a computer > from components by yourself. > > For Linux please bear in mind don't choose the latest components > available on market otherwise you need to do a lot of work. > I have been using Linux since RH4.1 --- dual boot first then only Linux since the RH5.x version. I just don change computer often > Which version of Linux and M$Windows you are going to install ? It should be RH7.2, I am not sure about the M$ version, maybe M$98 > >Memory: Should I invest in DDR memory instead of pc133mhz? > > DDR is better but check the spec of motherboard whether it is > supported It think it only support DDR > > >Video card: > > > >I have an Older S3 that I almost never used so it should work. > >If I was to consider a new Video card what would be a reasonable > >choice --- not too expensive ... Although this a PCI card, if the > >board requires an agp technologie I am was maybe thinking of a > >Matrox G450 > > Forget the older S3. Get Matrox G45, Win Fast, for AGP 4X, etc. Why should I forget the S3? I have tight budget constraint, I have the S3 here, it has almost not been used. Even though other cards may be better suited, I can change the card later when the money comes in. Unless there is something technical that I am missing? > >CDWR: > > > >Sony 16x/40x/10x (CR1611) > > Sony 16x/10x/40x > It is supported by Nero 5.5, Easy CD creator 5, Win on CD, etc > (all for M$Win). But I am not sure in Linux. The store where I am thinking of buying the computer has the following brand of CDRW: Yamaha, Plextor, Cyberdrive, Aopen, Goldstar and Sony. The RH7.2 compatibility list does not give me much information on these. Thanks for your help. -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
Devon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > On Monday 17 December 2001 02:34 am, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > > I don't know. I have a Soundblaster live 5.1. No problems at > >all. > > > > Is there a difference with the SB live 5.1 OEM? > > The card I have is an SB live 5.1 OEM. It works well for me. Thanks. -- Dominic Mitchell ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Suddenly unable to mount certain zip disks...
> you could check if the fs is corrupt > by dd-ing the device to a file, and try mounting that file using loopback. Result: dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/dev/hda10 dd: opening `/dev/sda4': No such device or address > Still unable to mount? Then try an fsck on the file and see what gives. The first attempt failed, however then I tried `e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda4' and that gave me screen after screen of corrections. After that I was able to mount the disk, and found all of the recovered directories and files in `lost+found'. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction so now I can at least recover data from these disks. Regards, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Strange behavior here: zip disks I've been using regularly suddenly > > refuse to mount. (See error message below.) DOS formatted zip disks, > > however, mount as usual, no problem. Also, if I re-format one of the > > (ext2) disks that won't mount, then it mounts fine. What gives? This > > is obviously not a hardware/disk problem, and I've made no changes to my > > filesystem (no recent upgrades, etc.). > > > > Error Msg: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on > > /dev/sda4, or too many mounted file systems ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Home networking: soup to nuts
Greetings and sorry for the newbie nature of this question. I have a project I have been putting off and would like to tackle it this week. I have one remaining Mandrake box that does Internet Connection Sharing to my home LAN. This box is not that reliable, but when it works it does the following: DHCP, connects via dialup to my ISP, share's the PPP connection to the rest of the lan and act's as a firewall and also run's caching DNS so my internal machines use it for DNS. Why Mandrake? They have this little one click wizard you select and it set's it up. I now want to tackle this on Red Hat. But, my work on Red Hat at my office has not taken me down this path yet. So, I am looking for an all purpose guide in setting something like this up. Ip chains or Ip tables? DHCP, caching DNS, etc. Mandrake is using Bastille. Any thought starters? Thank you. -Scott ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:55:13 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied: > Hi, > > Thanks for your continuous support and time spent. The problem is now > solved by re-installing RH7.2. But I am still interested to find out > its cause and its remedy for future use. > > On Monday 17 December 2001 22:18, you wrote: > > > Does a bootdisk work? If so, it's probably a geometry mismatch. If > > not, or if you didn't make a bootdisk to try it with, there's more > > work. Here's what's needed if you can't test it with a bootdisk or > > it failed using that, too. > > A bootdisk worked but have to use 'I', the interactive operation, to > turn off WINE. How to find out geometry mismatch ? > > > The second stage boot loader has been started, but it can't load > > the descriptor table from the map file. This is typically caused > > by a media failure or by a geometry mismatch. > > How to rectify it in future if its failure is due to geometry mismatch > ? That was answered already, in the part about manually partitioning and using fdisk and (possibly) having to set the proper CHS, etc. > Thanks in advance. > > B.R. > Stephen > > > I'd first look at the "geometry mismatch" part to see if that's it. > > If it's "media failure" that's so broad as to be almost impossible > > to track down. But if it meant that the drive was bad (one possible > > definition) then you'd never be able to get it to boot all of the > > way no matter what. > > > > The easiest way to check the geometry is to first find out what the > > geometry of the drive should be. Most times it's labelled right on > > it. In some, you'll need to lok on the website somewhere to find > > out. > > > > Then restart the installation. When you get to disk partitioning, > > choose fdisk. At the commandline enter "p" to see what you have. 3 > > things that you should note. First, does it have the right number of > > CHS specified for what you know it should be? Second, take a look at > > the "blocks" column and see if there are any plus (+) signs attached > > to any of the numbers. Third, are there any overlaps of partitions > > (i.e. sda1 ends on 100 and sda2 starts on 100)? > > > > If the first instance is a problem, you'll need to go into expert > > mode and fix it (too long of an explanation on how, so grab some > > howtos and start reading). If the second one is a problem, you'll > > need to repartition (maybe even manually) to fix it. (I allowed the > > installer to auto partition for me once and it ended up like this. I > > used it that way for over 1.5 years before I finally fixed it. A > > bootdisk will usually still work if it's this problem.) If the third > > part is it, same as the second part: repartition and likely do so > > manually to prevent the problem > > > > That's about the best shot I can make at this point. > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Hey, it's not like the whole building burned down. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Hi, Thanks for your continuous support and time spent. The problem is now solved by re-installing RH7.2. But I am still interested to find out its cause and its remedy for future use. On Monday 17 December 2001 22:18, you wrote: > Does a bootdisk work? If so, it's probably a geometry mismatch. If not, > or if you didn't make a bootdisk to try it with, there's more work. > Here's what's needed if you can't test it with a bootdisk or it failed > using that, too. A bootdisk worked but have to use 'I', the interactive operation, to turn off WINE. How to find out geometry mismatch ? > The second stage boot loader has been started, but it can't load the > descriptor table from the map file. This is typically caused by a media > failure or by a geometry mismatch. How to rectify it in future if its failure is due to geometry mismatch ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen > I'd first look at the "geometry mismatch" part to see if that's it. If > it's "media failure" that's so broad as to be almost impossible to track > down. But if it meant that the drive was bad (one possible definition) > then you'd never be able to get it to boot all of the way no matter > what. > > The easiest way to check the geometry is to first find out what the > geometry of the drive should be. Most times it's labelled right on it. > In some, you'll need to lok on the website somewhere to find out. > > Then restart the installation. When you get to disk partitioning, choose > fdisk. At the commandline enter "p" to see what you have. 3 things that > you should note. First, does it have the right number of CHS specified > for what you know it should be? Second, take a look at the "blocks" > column and see if there are any plus (+) signs attached to any of the > numbers. Third, are there any overlaps of partitions (i.e. sda1 ends on > 100 and sda2 starts on 100)? > > If the first instance is a problem, you'll need to go into expert mode > and fix it (too long of an explanation on how, so grab some howtos and > start reading). If the second one is a problem, you'll need to > repartition (maybe even manually) to fix it. (I allowed the installer to > auto partition for me once and it ended up like this. I used it that way > for over 1.5 years before I finally fixed it. A bootdisk will usually > still work if it's this problem.) If the third part is it, same as the > second part: repartition and likely do so manually to prevent the > problem > > That's about the best shot I can make at this point. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
Hi Stephen, Ed, > Yes. Red Hat Linux has offered software RAID for a few years. I do miss a choice of the parity algorithm for RAID 5 in the installer though. Not sure if that was added in 7.2. > > Can I make 4 (four) partitions in the same hard disc and intall RAID 0 and > > RAID 1 to it. Where can I find relevant documentation ? > > RAID 0 on the same disk is not recommended since you'll just be causing > a lot of extra head movement for negative gain. Ditto with RAID 1 - > although you might be able to recover your data if you have a bad spot > on the media, if the head crashes, you're still out of luck. The use of RAID 0 with stripes on a single disk is pointless. You want to stripe to gain performance. But if you use stripes on a single disk you will probably even loose some performance due to the overhead. Even the use of separate disks on the same controller is discouraged for IDE. You should use two disks on separate controllers. RAID 1 is used where redundancy is needed. Even if you use two disks on separate controllers the RAID 1 array will probably be somewhat slower than a single disk for writing. Read speed might be somewhat increased if you choose the right stripe size. When using two partitions on one disk you can expect the write speed to drop to half that of a single partition, because everything has to be written to two partitions. And if you are lucky read speed does not drop far below that of a single partition. You will have some redundancy this way, but it is useless if the disk fails. Really, if you want to build a RAID system you should go with two disks on separate controllers at least. Bye, Leonard. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:51:38 +0800 Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied: Alright. 30 minutes was a bit long (usually 1 minute if it's a hostname problem). I guess I should have specified. Does a bootdisk work? If so, it's probably a geometry mismatch. If not, or if you didn't make a bootdisk to try it with, there's more work. Here's what's needed if you can't test it with a bootdisk or it failed using that, too. Here what the Bootdisk HOWTO says about the error: LIL The second stage boot loader has been started, but it can't load the descriptor table from the map file. This is typically caused by a media failure or by a geometry mismatch. I'd first look at the "geometry mismatch" part to see if that's it. If it's "media failure" that's so broad as to be almost impossible to track down. But if it meant that the drive was bad (one possible definition) then you'd never be able to get it to boot all of the way no matter what. The easiest way to check the geometry is to first find out what the geometry of the drive should be. Most times it's labelled right on it. In some, you'll need to lok on the website somewhere to find out. Then restart the installation. When you get to disk partitioning, choose fdisk. At the commandline enter "p" to see what you have. 3 things that you should note. First, does it have the right number of CHS specified for what you know it should be? Second, take a look at the "blocks" column and see if there are any plus (+) signs attached to any of the numbers. Third, are there any overlaps of partitions (i.e. sda1 ends on 100 and sda2 starts on 100)? If the first instance is a problem, you'll need to go into expert mode and fix it (too long of an explanation on how, so grab some howtos and start reading). If the second one is a problem, you'll need to repartition (maybe even manually) to fix it. (I allowed the installer to auto partition for me once and it ended up like this. I used it that way for over 1.5 years before I finally fixed it. A bootdisk will usually still work if it's this problem.) If the third part is it, same as the second part: repartition and likely do so manually to prevent the problem That's about the best shot I can make at this point. > Hi, > > Thanks for your advice. > > I waited for 30 mins without a hope to start Linux > > > I re-installed RH7.2 choosing LILO bootloader instead of Drub. After > installation completed PC re-started and halted on > > LIL- > > I used the boot disk to start RH 7.2. This time it went straight > through without problem with KDE started (default). > > My questions are ; > > 1) How to correct LIL- to boot Linux > 2) What are the advantage and disadvantage between LILO and Drub > > Thanks in advance. > > B.R. > Stephen > > > At 12:01 PM 12/16/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 00:25:32 +0800 > >Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied: > > > > > Hi All People, > > > > > > I newly installed RH 7.2 as workstation on an AMD PC with ATA-66 > > > card(ABIT Hot Rod 66 adapter card) as SCSI adapter. Installation > > > went through without problem. At re-starting it moved on smoothly > > > until it came to : > > > > > > INIT : Switching to runlevel : 3 > > > INIT : Sending processes to TERM signal > > > tStarting automount : No Mountpoint Defined [OK] > > > Starting lpd : No printers Defined[OK] > > > Starting Wine [Failed] > > > > > > then the PC halted. > > > > > > I force-re-set (re-started) the PC. It halted again at the same > > > point. > > > > > > Any remedy or pointer ? > > > >Halted. As in? Minutes? Seconds? Hours? > > > >If you only waited seconds, wait longer. This happens many times when > >no hostname is assigned. That is the default and is something you can > >take care of after the boot completes. > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
Michael Scottaline wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 > Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > > > Two real questions before I start. > > > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > > since 6.2 I should install? > == > I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours > with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation > write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose > the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite > similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no > problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi > support in the kernel it built. HTH, > Mike > Outstanding ! Thanks for the info Mike. Seems like a sweet little machine. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RAID question
On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 04:24, Stephen Liu wrote: > Is RH7.2 coming with software RAID Yes. Red Hat Linux has offered software RAID for a few years. > Can I make 4 (four) partitions in the same hard disc and intall RAID 0 and > RAID 1 to it. Where can I find relevant documentation ? RAID 0 on the same disk is not recommended since you'll just be causing a lot of extra head movement for negative gain. Ditto with RAID 1 - although you might be able to recover your data if you have a bad spot on the media, if the head crashes, you're still out of luck. Since all writes are now going to have to be doubled, you'll take a massive performance hit. If you were to use 2 drives, you'd be able to parallelize the writes. The Red Hat Linux 7.2 Installation Guide tells you how to set it up at install time. Worked fine for me right out of the box. -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 December 2001 02:34 am, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > I don't know. I have a Soundblaster live 5.1. No problems at all. > > Is there a difference with the SB live 5.1 OEM? The card I have is an SB live 5.1 OEM. It works well for me. =D - -- pgp key: http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/pgpkey.txt - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8HeHyeMAUbzJhSVcRAgsfAKCE7mhhamqy4mIRfm9IBcH7KvINfACePkjT 4LreQAH63K+N7b8KTjkdmjs= =ZgmN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RAID question
Hi All People, Is RH7.2 coming with software RAID Can I make 4 (four) partitions in the same hard disc and intall RAID 0 and RAID 1 to it. Where can I find relevant documentation ? If I am wrong please correct me Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: dual boot install on new XP laptop
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:41:42 -0600 Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just bought a sony laptop with the 900MHz duron and am going to set it > up as dual boot at first. The 15GB drive came partitioned in 2 chunks > and I thought I simply place RH7.2 on what windows sees as the D: > drive. It looks like it is really a logical in an extended partition. > > Two real questions before I start. > > 1) will grub or lilo simply boot XP as the other operating system just > like win9X or has enough changed that I will need to do somehting else? > > 2) can I install linux in the extended partition? I would probably > create my typical seperate partitions : /, /boot, /var, /tmp, /usr, > /home, swap. These partition numbers would obviously start at hda5 and > be way into the disk. I have not done the dual boot thing in so long I > thought I would ask the gurus before starting. > > 3) (bonus question) when I started the install to see if I was going to > have any immediate hardware issues before punting I noticed the laptop > installation option. I have never done one of the standard config > installs and probably won't this time but does anyone know what apps get > installed with the laptop option? Are there new laptop targeted apps > since 6.2 I should install? == I recently installed RH 7.2 on a Sony Vaio PIII 900. Same HD as yours with similar config. I just deleted the D: drive and had the installation write there. No problems and grub dual boots from the get-go! I chose the laptop installation, and since my guess is that our hardwar is quite similar (if not identical, `cept the processor) you should have no problem. The installation even recognized the CDR/DVD and put scsi support in the kernel it built. HTH, Mike -- "It takes a minute to have a crush on someone, an hour to like someone and a day to love someone but it takes a lifetime to forget someone." --Plato ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Tiff image support in QT
Hi all, I am loading an image using QPixmap and successfully displaying the image in the client area of the application. But when I am working with TIF image, it is unable to load it in the QPixmap, TIFF format is not in the supported format list of QT, So when I searched, I got the following TWO options to support TIFF format in QT. First is QImageFormat's decoding procedure to install the new format. where you have to override DecoderFor, FormatName and Decode. Which I was unable to do, So any help in this case would be really appreciated. Secondly, I got the following code for defining the new format support. Which is crashing after the last line of the code. My code goes this way QImageIO::defineIOHandler( "TIF", // format name "\\x49\\x49\\x2A\\x01",// header-regexp 0,// binary format,text:"T" read_tif_image,// read-routine write_tif_image ); // write-routine QImageIO *myImageIO; myImageIO = new QImageIO( strFileName,"TIFF"/"TIF"); //tried with TIFF and TIF QIODevice *d = myImageIO->ioDevice(); QDataStream s( d ); const buflen = 24; charbuf[buflen]; d->readBlock( buf, 4 );// read signature Waiting for an early reply... Best Regards Rahul T. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
Hi Gordon At 12:17 AM 12/17/2001 -0800, you wrote: >On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Stephen Liu wrote: > > > I started to boot RH7.2 at single mode (linux single). The PC halted > after ; > > > > Enable SWAP space : [OK] > > sh - 2.05# > >Halted like you couldn't type anything, or halted like you were expecting >it to do something else? Single user mode is just a shell, with no >unnecessary services running. I could not type anything at halt. I let it standing there for about 10 minutes. I had no idea what command it expected to receive. When I pressed Ctrl + Alt + Del, the PC re-start. Situation was still the same. > > I re-installed RH7.2 choosing LILO bootloader instead of Drub. > >That's GRUB, the Grand Unified Bootloader. > > > After installation completed PC re-started and halted on > > > > LIL- > >If you installed on /dev/hda, then what does the output of: >fdisk -l /dev/hda >look like? It's possible that you needed a /boot partition that the BIOS >can access, and you didn't make one. (Autopartitioning should have >worked.) # fdisk -l Disk /dev/hdg: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1245 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdg1 * 1 6 48163+ 83 Linux /dev/hdg2 7 1213 9695227+ 83 Linux /dev/hdg3 1214 1245257040 82 Linux swap I used autopartition at installation and put LILO loader residing on /boot partition. /etc/liloconf prompt timeout=50 default=linux boot=/dev/hdg1 map=/boot/map install=/boot/boot.b message=/boot/message linear image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 label=linux initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.7-10.img read-only root=/dev/hdg2 >GRUB is more inteligent than LILO. The former can read filesystems using >a second stage loader, and can therefore boot kernel images that exist on >disk, but not in the config file. LILO can't do that. > >GRUB will allow you to add or remove an initrd from a kernel definition. >LILO won't let you do that. > >There're other differences, but in general, GRUB is the way to go. Thanks for your advice. B.R. Stephen ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
pam.d related?
ok, this is very weird question. i cant login via root, or any other user name on the system. im thinkin its something like /etc/nologin but that allows root to login. so i try rebooting in to single user mode, i use passwd to change the password of root then i boot in to init 3 and still i cant login as root it exits out just as like a /etc/nologin was there,.. what would cause , or how can i make root not be able to login form consols,.? is it related to pam? im sorry but i no longer have access to this machine, so i cant tell u if there is /etc/nologin file or not, or if there is anything un usuall in /etc/pam.d/ but if i wanted to ristrict access of root login form consol, how would i do that? i know about normal users, thats from /etc/nologin, but i didnt know you could lock out root. please explain. __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Graphic resolution problem
Hi All People, My AGP TNT graphic card has 16MB memory and my monitor supports upto 1600 x 1400 resolution (17") My newly installed RH7.2 can only allow me to select 1024 x 768 resolution max. Kindly advise how to reset Xwindow by using graphic mode in stead of modifying XF86config file ? Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Some questions on hardware
Hi Dominic, >I am buying a new computer for wife --- She wants an M$ box! Well >I get to install Linux to on it :) Are you going to buy a computer as a solid-state with components selected by yourself or to build a computer yourself from parts purchased. Actually it is not difficult to assemble a computer from components by yourself. For Linux please bear in mind don't choose the latest components available on market otherwise you need to do a lot of work. Which version of Linux and M$Windows you are going to install ? >Memory: >Should I invest in DDR memory instead of pc133mhz? DDR is better but check the spec of motherboard whether it is supported >Sound card: > >Is the Soundblaster Live MP3 + Audigy compatible? I know that >the SB Live series is supported but I am not sure about the Audigy >version of it. SB Live is supported by both M$Windows and Linux, unless you got a very old version Linux. >Video card: > >I have an Older S3 that I almost never used so it should work. If >I was to consider a new Video card what would be a reasonable >choice --- not too expensive ... Although this a PCI card, if the >board requires an agp technologie I am was maybe thinking of a >Matrox G450 Forget the older S3. Get Matrox G45, Win Fast, for AGP 4X, etc. >Monitor : >Samsung Sync 753DF 17" Reliable >CDWR: > >Sony 16x/40x/10x (CR1611) Sony 16x/10x/40x It is supported by Nero 5.5, Easy CD creator 5, Win on CD, etc (all for M$Win). But I am not sure in Linux. Any guy on the list can shed some light ? B.R. Stephen Liu ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH 7.2 fails to re-start after installation
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Stephen Liu wrote: > I started to boot RH7.2 at single mode (linux single). The PC halted after ; > > Enable SWAP space : [OK] > sh - 2.05# Halted like you couldn't type anything, or halted like you were expecting it to do something else? Single user mode is just a shell, with no unnecessary services running. > I re-installed RH7.2 choosing LILO bootloader instead of Drub. That's GRUB, the Grand Unified Bootloader. > After installation completed PC re-started and halted on > > LIL- If you installed on /dev/hda, then what does the output of: fdisk -l /dev/hda look like? It's possible that you needed a /boot partition that the BIOS can access, and you didn't make one. (Autopartitioning should have worked.) > My questions are ; > > 1) How to correct LIL- to boot Linux > 2) What are the advantage and disadvantage between LILO and Drub GRUB is more inteligent than LILO. The former can read filesystems using a second stage loader, and can therefore boot kernel images that exist on disk, but not in the config file. LILO can't do that. GRUB will allow you to add or remove an initrd from a kernel definition. LILO won't let you do that. There're other differences, but in general, GRUB is the way to go. -- If I had a dollar for every brain that you don't have, I'd have one dollar. - Squidward to SpongeBob ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list