Re: Sendmail & quotas (restricting mail size)...

2002-02-10 Thread Greg Wright



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On 10/02/2002 at 11:24 AM Henrik Schmiediche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Hello,
>I have quotas set up for /var/mail to restrict the total amount of mail a
>person can hold in their queue. The problem with this is that sendmail
will
>hold a file in the delivery spool until the space needed becomes available
>so it can deliver or after several days it will "fail" in the attempt and
>notify the sender. Also, some programs like POP will simply fail without
>notice when the quota is exceeded. I really need some more elegant way of
>dealing with:

This is actually pretty good, once the box is full, they have 5 days (or
whatever you set the fail x days as)

>
> 1) Large mail messages. If they can people will email CDROM ISO files
>(you think I am kidding!).

nope, do not think you are kidding, seen people do this after splitting
large files to beat size restrictions.

>2) Leave messages in the mail spool until the spool grows to consume
as
>much space as you have.  It does not matter how much space you have. They
>will not delete it!

You can use cucipop and force it to ignore the "leave on server" option for
pop3, it goes against RFC's but you may need it. Another solution would be
to look for a script that removes messages after x days old.

>
>How are people dealing with this? I notice that in sendmail.cf there is a
>"MaxMessageSize=100" command, but I am not sure if this restricts
>incoming and outgoing messages. Also, I would prefer not to restrict the
>size of an email unless it is gigantic, rather I would prefer to deliver
it
>and then restrict future deliveries of large email.

The size restriction is for both ways, however sendmail has to accept the
whole message before it can work out the size, maybe 500k is a reasonable
size for you -- it is system wide in Sendmail however, not per user.

>
>I guess I am asking about how people deal with users that have no concept
>of
>mail spools, files sizes, etc. What is the best way to enforce some
>consistent email spool size policy. Being heavy handed does not help me
>since then I have to deal with a lot of users on a case-by-case basis for
>their "special" needs.
>

You have to work out the balance, IMO mail is not a substitute for FTP,
10MB is more than ample, so is 5MB, you may just have to increase disk
space or split SMTP from POP3/IMAP

Regards

Greg Wright
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Help with sendmail, please

2002-02-10 Thread JW

Hello,

I have a situation where I'm moving a web site off of a server running sendmail onto 
another server running postfix, but in the mean time there are still some processes 
running on the sendmail server that are causing problems.

The whole story is too long to post here, but basically, the old server had 2 separate 
domain/host names. One of them (the correct one) is getting moved to the new server. 
In order for mail sent _by_ the old server to get to the new one, I had to remove the 
old hostname ("gooddomain.com") from /etc/hosts. But now, it's sending out mail as 
being from the other (remaining) host name, which is causing serious issues, because 
now mail appears to be coming for the other domain, which we do not want - it still 
needs like have a from address of gooddomain.com (does that make any sense?).

So basically what I'm needing it to force sendmail to make the from address still be 
@gooddomain.com, but I cannot add that domain back to /etc/hosts, and also I can't do 
anything that would make sendmail think it's still oldserver.gooddomain.com (because 
if I do, any mail it send to old-domain.com will get trapped there, instead of being 
sent to the new server like it needs to..

So, is there a way to force the domain part of the sending address without screwing up 
the rest of the system?

Thanks





Jonathan Wilson
System Administrator

Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com



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Re: ssh problem (was: error)

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

still the same sir... PASSWORD AUTHENTICATION FAILED
error but for sure, im entering the correct password...

note: all of these conditions are followed
1. all three servers use the same version of OpenSSH;
2. sshd is, in fact, running on all three servers;
3. the configurations of sshd do not differ on the three servers; 
4. using the same client to try to connect to all three servers.

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> >you chose to use a firewall during install, and that is preventing you 
> >from connecting.  If you are safely isolated from hostile networks, 
> >then do this as root:
> >
> ># /etc/init.d/ipchains stop
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> ... and if you're still having trouble, post the exact error message
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Re: ssh problem (was: error)

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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David Talkington wrote:

>Then I will suspect that on the server to which you cannot connect, 
>you chose to use a firewall during install, and that is preventing you 
>from connecting.  If you are safely isolated from hostile networks, 
>then do this as root:
>
># /etc/init.d/ipchains stop

... and if you're still having trouble, post the exact error message
that you're receiving when you try to connect.

- -d

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ssh problem (was: error)

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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Maynard B. Fernando wrote:

>i say so because i can ssh to server1 and server2 but
>not in server3 that's why i think its only a misconfig
>in server3...

Ah.  As you see, detail is good.  Then I shall assume, based on what 
you've told us so far:

1. all three servers use the same version of OpenSSH;
2. sshd is, in fact, running on all three servers;
3. the configurations of sshd do not differ on the three servers; 
4. you're using the same client to try to connect to all three 
servers.

Then I will suspect that on the server to which you cannot connect, 
you chose to use a firewall during install, and that is preventing you 
from connecting.  If you are safely isolated from hostile networks, 
then do this as root:

# /etc/init.d/ipchains stop

and try your ssh connection again.  Then we'll know if that's the 
problem.

When replying, please reply below the text which you're quoting.  That 
makes the discussion flow naturally from top to bottom.

Cheers ... -d


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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

i say so because i can ssh to server1 and server2 but
not in server3 that's why i think its only a misconfig
in server3...

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> >i guess its not the SecureCrt its just  a matter
> >of configuration in the server :-) but i dont know
> >how...
> 
> No, I think you misunderstood.  I'm betting that you're just hitting 
> an old annoyance in SecureCRT.  Somewhere in its connection properties 
> is the opportunity to select the type of server to which you're 
> connected.  It defaults to either 'standard' or 'Datafellows'.  
> Whichever it is, change it to the other one.
> 
> Or use a different ssh client.  http://www.ssh.com has a Windows 
> client free for personal use.  Better yet, search the 'net for PuTTY.
> 
> - -d
> 
> 
> >> >i downloaded all what needed... the problem i have now
> >> >is i can't use SecureCrt from a window-based machine
> >> >to connect to the said server which runs the latest version
> >> >of OpenSSH... what should i do sir? any config needed?
> >> >before i can use it with the older version of OpenSSH 
> >> >installed in the server... i hope you're not tired of helping
> >> >me :-)
> >> 
> >> 1. Upgrade SecureCRT.  Some versions had bugs that caused 
> >> interoperability problems.
> >> 
> >> 2. Play with the server type in the connection properties.  Either 
> >> 'standard' or 'DataFellows' will work, but I forgot which one.
> >> 
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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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Maynard B. Fernando wrote:

>i guess its not the SecureCrt its just  a matter
>of configuration in the server :-) but i dont know
>how...

No, I think you misunderstood.  I'm betting that you're just hitting 
an old annoyance in SecureCRT.  Somewhere in its connection properties 
is the opportunity to select the type of server to which you're 
connected.  It defaults to either 'standard' or 'Datafellows'.  
Whichever it is, change it to the other one.

Or use a different ssh client.  http://www.ssh.com has a Windows 
client free for personal use.  Better yet, search the 'net for PuTTY.

- -d


>> >i downloaded all what needed... the problem i have now
>> >is i can't use SecureCrt from a window-based machine
>> >to connect to the said server which runs the latest version
>> >of OpenSSH... what should i do sir? any config needed?
>> >before i can use it with the older version of OpenSSH 
>> >installed in the server... i hope you're not tired of helping
>> >me :-)
>> 
>> 1. Upgrade SecureCRT.  Some versions had bugs that caused 
>> interoperability problems.
>> 
>> 2. Play with the server type in the connection properties.  Either 
>> 'standard' or 'DataFellows' will work, but I forgot which one.
>> 
>> - -d
>> 
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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

i guess its not the SecureCrt its just  a matter
of configuration in the server :-) but i dont know
how...

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> Maynard B. Fernando wrote:
> 
> >i downloaded all what needed... the problem i have now
> >is i can't use SecureCrt from a window-based machine
> >to connect to the said server which runs the latest version
> >of OpenSSH... what should i do sir? any config needed?
> >before i can use it with the older version of OpenSSH 
> >installed in the server... i hope you're not tired of helping
> >me :-)
> 
> 1. Upgrade SecureCRT.  Some versions had bugs that caused 
> interoperability problems.
> 
> 2. Play with the server type in the connection properties.  Either 
> 'standard' or 'DataFellows' will work, but I forgot which one.
> 
> - -d
> 
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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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Maynard B. Fernando wrote:

>i downloaded all what needed... the problem i have now
>is i can't use SecureCrt from a window-based machine
>to connect to the said server which runs the latest version
>of OpenSSH... what should i do sir? any config needed?
>before i can use it with the older version of OpenSSH 
>installed in the server... i hope you're not tired of helping
>me :-)

1. Upgrade SecureCRT.  Some versions had bugs that caused 
interoperability problems.

2. Play with the server type in the connection properties.  Either 
'standard' or 'DataFellows' will work, but I forgot which one.

- -d

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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

i downloaded all what needed... the problem i have now
is i can't use SecureCrt from a window-based machine
to connect to the said server which runs the latest version
of OpenSSH... what should i do sir? any config needed?
before i can use it with the older version of OpenSSH 
installed in the server... i hope you're not tired of helping
me :-)

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: error


> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:59:11PM +0800, Maynard B. Fernando wrote:
> > i downloaded what you've said but this what happened:
> > 
> > [root@ns2 maynard]# rpm -Uvh rpm-4.0.2-6x.i386.rpm 
> > error: failed dependencies:
> > libdb-3.1.so is needed by rpm-4.0.2-6x
> > [root@ns2 maynard]# 
> 
> rpm-4.X.X requires the db3 rpm.
> I think you'll be better off downloading the i386, noarch and
> whatever kernel is appropriate for your machine and applying
> all the updates.
> 
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> 
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Re: error

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

thank you sir! :-)

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> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 06:36:22AM +0800, Maynard B. Fernando wrote:
> >  
> > i am attempting to install the rpm for openssl but it failed because of
> > the error below :
> >  
> >  [root@ns2 src]# rpm -Uvh openssl-0.9.5a-7.6.x.i386.rpm
> > error: failed dependencies:
> >  rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by
> > openssl-0.9.5a-7.6.x
> 
> You need to upgrade rpm itself.
> Get rpm-4.0.2-6x from the RH's updates directory.
> 
> Emmanuel
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ssh

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

to all,

i can ssh using the server itself but when going to
access it using SecureCrt in a window-bassed
machine, i cannot... this only happens when i
upgraded the OpenSSH to its latest version...
i know that a little touch on the server is only
needed but i don't know what it is... please help...

thanks a lot,

Maynard B. Fernando
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need help

2002-02-10 Thread Maynard B. Fernando

to all,

i can ssh using the server itself but when going to
access it using SecureCrt in a window-bassed
machinet, i cannot... this only happens when i
upgraded the OpenSSH to its latest version...ow me the way... i know that
theres something
wrong with

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Re: Display quota size/info over NFS

2002-02-10 Thread Henrik Schmiediche


 Hello,
that did the trick. Upgrading the quota rpm on 7.1 to the same version as is
present in 7.2 made quota queries over NFS function. Did have to
"--nodeps --force" the rpm though. Hope it won't cause any problems.

Sincerely,

 - henrik

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Subject: RE: Display quota size/info over NFS


> Have you tried upgrading the quota rpm on the 7.1 client?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Henrik Schmiediche
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:43 AM
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> Subject: Re: DIsplay quota size/info over NFS
>
>
> Strange - when I run "quota -v" from a RH 7.2 client it works, but when
> I
> run "quota -v" from a RH 7.1 client it does not work.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> - Henrik
>
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> > Henrik Schmiediche wrote:
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> > >the command: 'quota -v user' tells me (and a user) what their quota
> status
> > >is. It does not seem to work over NFS. That is, the quotas is
> enforced
> over
> > >NFS, but if the file system is NFS mounted then I cannot determine
> whats
> a
> > >users quota status is. Is there a way?
> > >
> > >The reason this matters, is that my users check their quotas. I now
> have
> > >moved the /home file system on to a server that I do not want the
> users
> to
> > >have access to do, yet I still would like them to be able to check
> their
> > >quota status.
> >
> > man rquotad ...
> >
> > Cheers -d
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Re: RedHat's Postfix RPMS and Berkeley DB.

2002-02-10 Thread Mike Burger

My understanding is that in a lot of cases, they'll do "7.0.1" to indicate 
7.0 and 7.1 compatibility.

I'll check Chuck's site...thanks.

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Jason Costomiris wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:14:40PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:
> : Can anyone tell me if the RedHat compiled Postfix RPMS have Berkeley DB support
> : compiled in?
> 
> No idea about those, but mine sure does.  I'm running postfix 1.1.0,
> from the RPMs that Chuck Mead rolled (which I believe are based on 
> SJ Mudd's work).
> 
> RedHat 7.1 system:
> $ postconf -m  
> static
> sdbm
> pcre
> nis
> dbm
> regexp
> environ
> btree
> unix
> hash
> 
> $ rpm -q postfix
> postfix-1.1.0-2.rh70.1.pcre.tls
> 
> Not sure why it says rh70 instead of rh71, I didn't really pay that much
> attention to the .spec file.
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Redhat user manager problem

2002-02-10 Thread Bryan Pershall

When I create a user and I set that the password and account do not
expire.  Every time the machine reboots the passwords are set back to
expire and the users cant login

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ProjecTools.com, Inc. 

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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell


Thanks for the info,  

With Linux ... Who needs M$ softwares and docs?

Cheers.


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> No fancy box nor written manual.  The board is the same as far as
> I can tell.  Usually comes shrink wrapped with a CD or floppy for
> the drivers and SB software.
> 
> mw
> 
> Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> >  What is the difference with the OEM versions of the SB cards?
> > 
> > Dominic.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > > Nope.  Just plain ol' Sound Blaster 16 PnP for a PCI slot.  It
> 
> > >was
> > >
> > > being sold for about US$29 as I remember.  A local independent
> 
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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread mikew

No fancy box nor written manual.  The board is the same as far as I can tell.
Usually comes shrink wrapped with a CD or floppy for the drivers and SB software.

mw

Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> 
> What is the difference with the OEM versions of the SB cards?
> 
> Dominic.
> 
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> > Nope.  Just plain ol' Sound Blaster 16 PnP for a PCI slot.  It was
> >
> > being sold for about US$29 as I remember.  A local independent
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Re: (no subject)

2002-02-10 Thread Ben Logan

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Roger wrote:
> Hi! Guys
>  
> I am using sendmail 8.11.6 that came with RH 7.2 together to send mails.
> Now we have some mails waiting in /var/spool/mqueue , I wonder how I can
> enforce sendmail to send them immediately by my hands?

You can force sendmail to try to resend the queued messages
immediately by running (as root)

# sendmail -q

If you don't, it will retry every so often until it gives up.

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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell



What is the difference with the OEM versions of the SB cards? 

Dominic.

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> Nope.  Just plain ol' Sound Blaster 16 PnP for a PCI slot.  It was
> 
> being sold for about US$29 as I remember.  A local independent
> dealer sells the OEM version for US$14.95.
> 
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Re: RedHat's Postfix RPMS and Berkeley DB.

2002-02-10 Thread Jason Costomiris

On Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 04:14:40PM -0500, Mike Burger wrote:
: Can anyone tell me if the RedHat compiled Postfix RPMS have Berkeley DB support
: compiled in?

No idea about those, but mine sure does.  I'm running postfix 1.1.0,
from the RPMs that Chuck Mead rolled (which I believe are based on 
SJ Mudd's work).

RedHat 7.1 system:
$ postconf -m  
static
sdbm
pcre
nis
dbm
regexp
environ
btree
unix
hash

$ rpm -q postfix
postfix-1.1.0-2.rh70.1.pcre.tls

Not sure why it says rh70 instead of rh71, I didn't really pay that much
attention to the .spec file.

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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Bob Hartung wrote:

> Hi,
>I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a
> preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell -
> HP just didn't respond].

Hmm.  In it's Higher Education section, Dell offers a Latitude C600 with
Red Hat Linux 7.0 installed.  That's a pretty nice machine--we've been
using them in the laptop program for students here this year.

Big dealers are not likely to be selling the latest bleeding-edge stuff
due to QA concerns.

Somebody else pointed out ASLabs.  Is Tuxtops still in business?  I know
I've seen ads for resellers who install Linux on various machines like
Sony VAIOs.  Check Linux Journal and Linux Magazine.

And it's not that hard to put RHL on a laptop if you can get hold of
partitioning software.

Google turns up a bunch of sites, including www.linux-laptop.net.

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Re: HELP! system hangs bringing up eth0, eth1 -- ₣µ©Ж₪إΓ neat....

2002-02-10 Thread Magnus Stenman

Michael Oatman wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> When I used neat the last time, it said I had more cards than I really had.  
>ifconfig -a reported
> correctly tho', and so I ignored the extra card reported by neat.  (See what I 
>previously wrote
> below.)
> 
> This is only perhaps now more evidence that neat is broken and in real need of 
>repair, since I
> then (perhaps foolishly) used it to swap eth0 and eth1
> 
> After rebooting (to make iptables work), the system now hangs at "bringing up eth0:" 
>and at
> "bringing up eth1:".  I have to use interactive startup to get to a shell, or 
>Ctrl+Alt+Delete
> after it hangs to reboot so I can enter interactive startup.

You seem to have some weirdness going on with your modules, or
something.
Maybe the wrong ones get loaded?

Dunno what neat is.


To force correct modules to load, edit /etc/modules.conf
e.g:
alias eth0 3c59x

> 
> I then tried swapping them back, again using neat, but to no avail (go figure?).  
>ifconfig -a
> still reports both cards' MAC addresses as the same values which neat reports (well, 
>I'd stop
> using it, but I had no way of verifying -- besides, this *could* be useful info, 
>right?).
> 
> I'm now writing this from one of the WinXP boxen the RH7.2 machine is meant to 
>protect.  Fun
> stuff.
> 
> So do I have to reinstall, again, like I have been doing for something like 30 times 
>now?  I'm
> getting particularly good at that part, and I'd be able to fix my partition sizes 
>without knowing
> how to resize a ext3 partition as I asked in a previous post

Well, ext3 is ext2 with journaling, to resize I had to revert the
filesystem to ext2
(by simply remounting it as ext2 and removing the journaling flag with
tune2fs)

when done, turn on journaling with tune2fs -j and mount as ext3


/magnus

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>--  David Talkington
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> Michael
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> --- Michael Oatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> previously wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Another question/problem...
> 
> I just ran neat and it lists 3 network cards on the hardware tab.  The
> problem is I only have 2 installed on the computer.
> 
> ifconfig -a says I only have 2 (the correct ones), and neat does not
> have the 3rd device listed on the devices tab, although I can add it
> (name appears as eth2 in the select list).  It then has zeros for its
> MAC address.
> 
> I would assume I can delete this card, but my previous troubles began
> after rebooting when I did the same thing (removed non-existent one via
> neat), and then *none* of my NICs appeared in ifconfig -a, nor did
> either card transmit any data (no ping, not listed in ifconfig -a, zero
> MAC addresses in neat), although the lights were on on the cards and on
> the hubs, and both cards are currently working.
> 
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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread Dave Reed

> From: Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:16:58 -0600
> Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:
> 
> >Hi,
> >   I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a 
> >preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell
> >- HP just didn't respond].
> ==
> If you really want RH 7.2 pre-installed [it is easy enough to do yourself]
> try www.aslab.com I bought a laptop and tower from them and they have been
> great.
> 
> Mike


I can also speak speak positively about ASL. I got a laptop from them
about in Dec. 2000 and it's worked fine. If I were going to do it now,
I might not be as interested in having Linux preinstalled, but I
didn't have the time to mess with trying to get Linux installed when I
bought it and this way I figured I'd get hardware that was known to
work fine (including sound card, etc.) with Linux. They installed Red
Hat 6.2 for me, but I had no problems installing Red Hat 7.1 and 7.2
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Re: change_root d_count question

2002-02-10 Thread ABrady

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:27:17 -0600
Karina Gómez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:

> Hi, I have a Linux 7.1 running ok, but yesterday the system began to
> show this message at startup:
> 
> change_root: old root has d_count=3
> 
> 
> but all the daemons and services start without no problem..
> 
> What this message means ? Will it represent a problem in the future ?
> How do i fix it ?
> 
> 
> Thanks ,
> 
> Karina G.

I don't know how to make it go away, but it's harmless as far as I know.
I used to get it all of the time, over several releases, and nothing
ever went wrong with anything other than when I made some stupid
mistakes. I may be getting it now, but if I am I haven't noticed,
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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread mikew

Nope.  Just plain ol' Sound Blaster 16 PnP for a PCI slot.  It was being sold for
about US$29 as I remember.  A local independent dealer sells the OEM version for
US$14.95.

mw

Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> 
> I just check for the sake of it on compusa.  They are expensive!  They
> price a soundblaster live 5.1 at 69.99 $ (US).  I have them here
> in Montreal for 51.99 $ (CDN) or roughly 32.76 $ (US)!
> 
> As for the SB16 PnP they had SB16 WavEffects 32 Voice PCI.  Is it
> the SB16 PnP your are talking about?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > SB16 PnP is available in PCI form. Micro-tek and Comp-USA had tons
> >
> > of them over Christmas.
> >
> > Mike W
> >
> > Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> > >  Hi,
> > >
> > > I am considering purchasing a new sound card. I have an ASUS
> > >P4TE motherboard with onboard sound and the results do not
> > >compare to my old SoundBlaster 16 PnP.  I wanted to try the SB 16
> >
> > >on this computer to see the difference, but the card is an ISA (
> > >the slot does not conform to pci technology and it has 5 to 6
> > >years old ).
> > >
> > > I want something that sounds good and is flawless to configure.
> > >
> > > How about the Soundblaster audigy MP3?
> > >
> > > Thanks for your suggestions.
> > >
> > > Dominic.
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RedHat's Postfix RPMS and Berkeley DB.

2002-02-10 Thread Mike Burger

Can anyone tell me if the RedHat compiled Postfix RPMS have Berkeley DB support
compiled in?

If not, could someone who's running the RedHat compiled Postfix RPMS run
the following command:

postconf -m

And tell me if you see "btree" listed in the output?

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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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Brian Ashe wrote:

>>I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a
>> preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell -
>> HP just didn't respond].
>>
>
>You might want to check out IBM. They were offering them a few months ago 
>preloaded with Linux, but everything changes quickly and may not by now. But 
>none the less, Thinkpads are pretty nice and I believe they will tell you 
>which models are already certified for RH regardless.

And it's interesting to note the conspicuous absence of "Windows keys"  
on IBM keyboards.  Those renegades.  ;-)

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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread rpjday

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Brian Ashe wrote:

> Bob Hartung,
> 
> On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:16, you said something about:
> > Hi,
> >I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a
> > preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell -
> > HP just didn't respond].
> >
> 
> You might want to check out IBM. They were offering them a few months ago 
> preloaded with Linux, but everything changes quickly and may not by now. But 
> none the less, Thinkpads are pretty nice and I believe they will tell you 
> which models are already certified for RH regardless.

one more thing worth mentioning -- given that the economy is pretty
much in the tank at the moment, you should be able to get a *really*
good deal on a laptop, as a lot of manufacturers are throwing in
lots of freebies to move their product.  when i bought my new inspiron 
8100, i got an extra 256M of RAM free, free shipping and i'm sure
something else at no extra charge, but i can't remember what.

regardless of the freebies, though, while i think thinkpads are
terrific laptops, they cost considerably more than a comparably
equipped laptop from most other vendors.

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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread Brian Ashe

Bob Hartung,

On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:16, you said something about:
> Hi,
>I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a
> preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell -
> HP just didn't respond].
>

You might want to check out IBM. They were offering them a few months ago 
preloaded with Linux, but everything changes quickly and may not by now. But 
none the less, Thinkpads are pretty nice and I believe they will tell you 
which models are already certified for RH regardless.

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Re: g++

2002-02-10 Thread Brian Ashe

Chris,

Please watch the subjects, I almost missed this -> "Redhat-list digest, Vol 1 
#3799 - 5 msgs"

On Sunday 10 February 2002 12:23, you said something about:
> I tried what you advised and even copied your source
> code word for word for hello.cpp and got this error
>
> output:
> > g++ hello.cpp -o hello
>
> hello.cpp:11: parse erroe before ';'
>

The only reason that I question your accuracy in duplicating what I provided 
is because you got an error on line 11 of an 8 line program. ;)

What editor are you using to create your programs?

Which line is line 11? The "cout" or the "return"?

Are you typing this in or cut-n-pasting?

Have you tried grabbing a tar-ball of some small C++ program to see if that 
gets similar problems? (There may also be some in the 
/usr/share/doc/qt-devel-2.3.0/examples/hello directory (you may or may not 
have this) that you could try just to test the compiler.) If something like 
that compiles, then you really need to figure out what is being done 
differently. If it fails to compile then you can really see if you've got a 
compiler problem or something inhibiting the compiler from proper operation.

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Limiting failed logins - pam_tally?

2002-02-10 Thread Andreas Hansson

I have a redhat 7.1 system. I'm trying to limit the number of login failures
to prevent brute-forcing passwords. To do this I changed
/etc/pam.d/system-auth to contain this:

authrequired  /lib/security/pam_env.so
authrequired  /lib/security/pam_tally.so no_magic_root
authsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
authrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so

account required  /lib/security/pam_tally.so deny=5 no_magic_root
account required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so

passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok md5
shadow
passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so

session required  /lib/security/pam_limits.so
session required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so

Is this the right way of doing it? I want to make sure that no matter what
way someone tries a password it will count towards the limit of 5 failures.
I would prefer to have it autounlock after a certain time of no password
tries, but then I found a problem.

It seems that when trying a password through telnet or ftp or whereever, if
it is the wrong password there will be a delay of a few seconds. If it is
the right password but the account is locked out, there will be no delay.
Thus you can still brute force a password with this locking enabled, and if
the lock count is cleared after an hour of no attempts, you could then login
with the brute forced password.

Am I going about this the wrong way? How should I do this?


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sendmail and pop3 access for outbound mail

2002-02-10 Thread John J. Donohue

Replaced our very old mail server (yes, it was redhat too) with redhat 7.2 
and current sendmail. I commented out the 'localhost only' line from the 
config file and re-m4'ed. inbound mail works fine. outbound mail works 
fine for those users who telnet in and use pine. users who use eudora or 
netscape and pop3 to access their mailbox have outbound mail to other 
domains rejected as relay attempts. I've included our domain in a RELAY 
line in /etc/mail/access and re-hashed to get a new access.db file. 
strings verifies the change in access.db. outbound mail still gets 
dropped as a relay attempt. 
what do I need to tweak to allow outbound 'relaying' from hosts within our 
domain using a desktop mail user agent and pop3'ing up to our mailserver?
(while still keeping OTHER folks from relaying thru us)

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Re: Using Linux to NT (NTFS)

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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> This is what I am looking for, I want to be able to use a Linux boot disk on 
>a NT  ntfs 
>files system and get to my files and folders through the Linux boot disk? I 
>have a NT box that has ntfs on it, but a ntfs boot disk woun't work. I want 
>to use a linux boot disk an to be able access my files on my hated NT box 
>that has ntfs on it.

Let me guess, you have a pirated copy of Windows XP that locked you 
out after the pre-registration period, right? 

Bwahahahahahah 

Yank the disk and stuff it in a Linux box.  Boot with an NTFS-read 
enabled kernel.  Or build a boot disk with such a kernel and a driver 
for your NIC.

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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:16:58 -0600
Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration:

>Hi,
>   I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a 
>preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell
>- HP just didn't respond].
==
If you really want RH 7.2 pre-installed [it is easy enough to do yourself]
try www.aslab.com I bought a laptop and tower from them and they have been
great.

Mike

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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell




I just check for the sake of it on compusa.  They are expensive!  They
price a soundblaster live 5.1 at 69.99 $ (US).  I have them here
in Montreal for 51.99 $ (CDN) or roughly 32.76 $ (US)!

As for the SB16 PnP they had SB16 WavEffects 32 Voice PCI.  Is it
the SB16 PnP your are talking about?

Cheers.




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> 
> of them over Christmas.
> 
> Mike W
> 
> Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> >  Hi,
> > 
> > I am considering purchasing a new sound card. I have an ASUS
> >P4TE motherboard with onboard sound and the results do not
> >compare to my old SoundBlaster 16 PnP.  I wanted to try the SB 16
> 
> >on this computer to see the difference, but the card is an ISA (
> >the slot does not conform to pci technology and it has 5 to 6
> >years old ).
> > 
> > I want something that sounds good and is flawless to configure.
> > 
> > How about the Soundblaster audigy MP3?
> > 
> > Thanks for your suggestions.
> > 
> > Dominic.
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Re: Using Linux to NT (NTFS)

2002-02-10 Thread AABAN34
 This is what I am looking for, I want to be able to use a Linux boot disk on a NT  ntfs 
files system and get to my files and folders through the Linux boot disk? I have a NT box that has ntfs on it, but a ntfs boot disk woun't work. I want to use a linux boot disk an to be able access my files on my hated NT box that has ntfs on it.


Re: Sendmail & quotas (restricting mail size)...

2002-02-10 Thread Henrik Schmiediche


Thanks for the feedback and the POP clarification. I will check into other
POP daemons. You say:

" I prefer to accept within limits then tell users that they will not
receive until they clean up their act. "

I agree with this. Does sendmail actually allow for this? How do you notify
the user that they will not receive further messages until they clean up
their act?

Sincerely,

 - Henrik


- Original Message -
From: "Rick Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Henrik Schmiediche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sendmail & quotas (restricting mail size)...


>
> The MaxMessageSize in sendmail applies to any message sendmail
> touches.  Sendmail does not, for the most part, distinguish between
> inbound and outbound; messages are messages (the one place it does
> distinguish is in local address handling and local delivery).
>
> POP does not fail with quotas, ipopd fails with quotas.  ipopd copies the
> user's spool file then uses that copy, then copies it back.  The default
> is to make this copy in the mail spool directory.  Blech!  First off,
> with large spool files that is a lot of CPU time spent copying files, and
> second the fact that it uses the mail spool file dir makes quotas
> unusable.  The real fix for this is to use a POP server daemon that is
> more reasonable and can work off the actual spool file without making a
> copy.  I use cucipop in part for this reason.   You could patch and
> recompile the U of Washington source from the SRPM, but ipopd is just
> plain ugly and I prefer a better POP daemon that does not bring my
> (busy) mail servers to their knees with idiocy like file copies.
>
> I like quotas and tend to favor the combination of those with a
> MaxMessageSize.  I have lots of wounds from the arrows slung when I have
> imposed quotas and message size limits, but in the end it has worked for
> the majority and penalized only the minority of abusers so it has been
> worth it.  There are MTA's that will not accept if quotas are exceeded -
> try sending to a Yahoo account which has too much in the spool; the
> message is never accepted.  I prefer to accept within limits then tell
> users that they will not receive until they clean up their act.
>
> Good luck.
>
> - rick warner
>
>
>
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Re: Sendmail & quotas (restricting mail size)...

2002-02-10 Thread Rick Warner


The MaxMessageSize in sendmail applies to any message sendmail
touches.  Sendmail does not, for the most part, distinguish between
inbound and outbound; messages are messages (the one place it does
distinguish is in local address handling and local delivery).  

POP does not fail with quotas, ipopd fails with quotas.  ipopd copies the
user's spool file then uses that copy, then copies it back.  The default
is to make this copy in the mail spool directory.  Blech!  First off,
with large spool files that is a lot of CPU time spent copying files, and
second the fact that it uses the mail spool file dir makes quotas
unusable.  The real fix for this is to use a POP server daemon that is
more reasonable and can work off the actual spool file without making a
copy.  I use cucipop in part for this reason.   You could patch and
recompile the U of Washington source from the SRPM, but ipopd is just
plain ugly and I prefer a better POP daemon that does not bring my
(busy) mail servers to their knees with idiocy like file copies.  

I like quotas and tend to favor the combination of those with a
MaxMessageSize.  I have lots of wounds from the arrows slung when I have
imposed quotas and message size limits, but in the end it has worked for
the majority and penalized only the minority of abusers so it has been
worth it.  There are MTA's that will not accept if quotas are exceeded -
try sending to a Yahoo account which has too much in the spool; the
message is never accepted.  I prefer to accept within limits then tell
users that they will not receive until they clean up their act.

Good luck.

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Re: (no subject)

2002-02-10 Thread Mark Neidorff

Those things in mqueue are incoming emails.  Use the command:

$mailq

to see where they are going.  Use procmail to deliver them.  OK?

Mark

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Roger wrote:

> Hi! Guys
>  
> I am using sendmail 8.11.6 that came with RH 7.2 together to send mails.
> Now we have some mails waiting in /var/spool/mqueue , I wonder how I can
> enforce sendmail to send them immediately by my hands?
>  
> Any help will be appreciated!
>  
>  
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Re: labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread rpjday

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Bob Hartung wrote:

> Hi,
>I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a 
> preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell - 
> HP just didn't respond].

pretty much no one, since it's not worth the investment in technical
support.  you're better off just figuring out which laptops *run*
RH with minimal fuss, and install it yourself.  check out 
www.linux-laptop.net as a start.

rday

p.s.  my dell inspirons have performed very nicely with red hat,
and ibm thinkpads are also regarded pretty highly for linux support.

p.p.s.  dell *used to* offer red hat pre-installed on some of their
laptops, but discontinued that.  no big surprise there -- most linux
users don't care about pre-installed OSes, since they plan on doing
their own installation anyway.  so the pre-installed feature had
zero value to the majority of the linux community.



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Re: recover mail list from netscape

2002-02-10 Thread ABrady


- Original Message -
From: Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: redhat-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:18 AM
Subject: recover mail list from netscape


> Hi,
>I have a screwed up netscape [4.78] that is not worth my time to
try to
> get the fonts working on.  What file can I pull out of the
installation to
> reecover my e-mail address list before I rpm -e netscape ?
> --
>
> Bob Hartung, Bettendorf, IA

If it's the user account, rpm -e won't get anything. Same with root. It
will only get the original program files. So, if you want to straighten
out the fonts, the chances are it isn't in the program anyway. So,
rather than uninstall it, you should likely rename ~/.netscape to
something esle. Once you have it working again, just copy the things you
really need (likely addressbook.pab [I think] and bootkmarks.html) over
to the new .netscape directory.

If you really think it's the program, uninstalling won't touch anything
in any accounts. So, none of the original settings or data will be lost.
If you still have problems, you'll need to do as I described above
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Sendmail & quotas (restricting mail size)...

2002-02-10 Thread Henrik Schmiediche


   Hello,
I have quotas set up for /var/mail to restrict the total amount of mail a
person can hold in their queue. The problem with this is that sendmail will
hold a file in the delivery spool until the space needed becomes available
so it can deliver or after several days it will "fail" in the attempt and
notify the sender. Also, some programs like POP will simply fail without
notice when the quota is exceeded. I really need some more elegant way of
dealing with:

 1) Large mail messages. If they can people will email CDROM ISO files
(you think I am kidding!).
2) Leave messages in the mail spool until the spool grows to consume as
much space as you have.  It does not matter how much space you have. They
will not delete it!

How are people dealing with this? I notice that in sendmail.cf there is a
"MaxMessageSize=100" command, but I am not sure if this restricts
incoming and outgoing messages. Also, I would prefer not to restrict the
size of an email unless it is gigantic, rather I would prefer to deliver it
and then restrict future deliveries of large email.

I guess I am asking about how people deal with users that have no concept of
mail spools, files sizes, etc. What is the best way to enforce some
consistent email spool size policy. Being heavy handed does not help me
since then I have to deal with a lot of users on a case-by-case basis for
their "special" needs.

Sincerely,

  - Henrik




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Re: Redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #3799 - 5 msgs

2002-02-10 Thread CM Miller


I tried what you advised and even copied your source
code word for word for hello.cpp and got this error
output:

> g++ hello.cpp -o hello
hello.cpp:11: parse erroe before ';'


-Chris 


> CM,
> 
> On Sunday 10 February 2002 11:09, you said something
> about:
> > Running RH 7.1 w/2.4.2 kernel and installed G++
> from
> > the CDROM and installed ok and can get the MAN
> pages
> > but when I go to compile a simple "Hello World"
> > program and a simple Celsius Program, I always get
> > this output error, "parse error before ';'"
> 
> This is telling you that the code has an error. 
> 
> Likely just before a ";" ;)
> 
> > I consulted some of the G++ webpages and the MAN
> pages
> > but I have no idea how to troubleshoot this, can
> > anyone offer any advice?
> 
> To troubleshoot, you need to check your source code.
> The gcc supplied by RH 
> requires ANSI C++ compliance (at least more so then
> some other versions of 
> gcc), so you may find source that doesn't compile
> "out-of-the-box" if it was 
> not written to comply with the ANSI standard. 
> 
> Also, if you are "cut-and-pasting" from tutorials on
> web pages, be aware that 
> there can sometimes be characters that will cause
> all kinds of problems when 
> doing so. It is not a guaruntee, but it can happen.
> 
> This compiles fine on my system using a simple "g++
> hello.cpp -o hello" (sans 
> quotes).
> 
> #include 
> 
> int main ()
> {
>   cout << "Hello World";
> 
>   return 0;
> }
> 
> 
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recover mail list from netscape

2002-02-10 Thread Bob Hartung

Hi,
   I have a screwed up netscape [4.78] that is not worth my time to try to 
get the fonts working on.  What file can I pull out of the installation to 
reecover my e-mail address list before I rpm -e netscape ?
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labtops with preinstalled RedHat

2002-02-10 Thread Bob Hartung

Hi,
   I am ready to purchase a new laptop.  Which manufacturers offer a 
preinstalled RH?  [I have received negative replies from Compaq and Dell - 
HP just didn't respond].

Thanks,

Bob
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Re: G++?

2002-02-10 Thread Brian Ashe

CM,

On Sunday 10 February 2002 11:09, you said something about:
> Running RH 7.1 w/2.4.2 kernel and installed G++ from
> the CDROM and installed ok and can get the MAN pages
> but when I go to compile a simple "Hello World"
> program and a simple Celsius Program, I always get
> this output error, "parse error before ';'"

This is telling you that the code has an error. 

Likely just before a ";" ;)

> I consulted some of the G++ webpages and the MAN pages
> but I have no idea how to troubleshoot this, can
> anyone offer any advice?

To troubleshoot, you need to check your source code. The gcc supplied by RH 
requires ANSI C++ compliance (at least more so then some other versions of 
gcc), so you may find source that doesn't compile "out-of-the-box" if it was 
not written to comply with the ANSI standard. 

Also, if you are "cut-and-pasting" from tutorials on web pages, be aware that 
there can sometimes be characters that will cause all kinds of problems when 
doing so. It is not a guaruntee, but it can happen.

This compiles fine on my system using a simple "g++ hello.cpp -o hello" (sans 
quotes).

#include 

int main ()
{
  cout << "Hello World";

  return 0;
}


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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread mikew

SB16 PnP is available in PCI form. Micro-tek and Comp-USA had tons of them over
Christmas.

Mike W

Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am considering purchasing a new sound card. I have an ASUS P4TE
> motherboard with onboard sound and the results do not compare to
> my old SoundBlaster 16 PnP.  I wanted to try the SB 16 on this
> computer to see the difference,  but the card is an ISA ( the slot
> does not conform to pci technology and it has 5 to 6 years old ).
> 
> I want something that sounds good and is flawless to configure.
> 
> How about the Soundblaster audigy MP3?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
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Re: Using Linux to NT (NTFS)

2002-02-10 Thread David Talkington

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>  Does anyone out there know of a Linux program that can be used on a NT 
>(ntfs) files system, so I can access the NTFS file system through a Linux 
>boot disk.

Kernel supports that, but you'll probably have to rebuild it to get 
that support.  Last I checked, only read support was safe.

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Using Linux to NT (NTFS)

2002-02-10 Thread AABAN34

  Does anyone out there know of a Linux program that can be used on a NT (ntfs) files system, so I can access the NTFS file system through a Linux boot disk.

Brian


G++?

2002-02-10 Thread CM Miller



Running RH 7.1 w/2.4.2 kernel and installed G++ from
the CDROM and installed ok and can get the MAN pages
but when I go to compile a simple "Hello World"
program and a simple Celsius Program, I always get
this output error, "parse error before ';'"

I consulted some of the G++ webpages and the MAN pages
but I have no idea how to troubleshoot this, can
anyone offer any advice? 

thanks,

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Re: Sound card

2002-02-10 Thread Caleb Chaplin

The SB Audigy isn't supported in linux just yet, however I believe some
work is being done and basic functionality is possible with tweaking. 
Try taking a look at http://www.opensound.com to see what's being done. 
I have the audigy gamer but haven't managed to get it to work in linux
just yet.

If you're looking for excellent support for a good card then the SB
Live! may be your best buy.  I have one in my other box and it works
great.






On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 15:38, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> 
> Hi,  
> 
> I am considering purchasing a new sound card. I have an ASUS P4TE
> motherboard with onboard sound and the results do not compare to
> my old SoundBlaster 16 PnP.  I wanted to try the SB 16 on this
> computer to see the difference,  but the card is an ISA ( the slot
> does not conform to pci technology and it has 5 to 6 years old ).
> 
> I want something that sounds good and is flawless to configure. 
> 
> How about the Soundblaster audigy MP3?
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> 
> Dominic.
> 
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RE: Postfix or sendmail ?

2002-02-10 Thread Bryan Pershall

Yes  I finally got them going there was a typo in one of the start up
scripts

Bryan Pershall 
ProjecTools.com, Inc. 

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Tel: (281) 847-2097


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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 12:11 AM
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Subject: Re: Postfix or sendmail ?

Did you check the services under "setup" ?

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Subject: RE: Postfix or sendmail ?


> I used rpms for postfix and squirrel mail, I compiled for courier-imap
> and pop3.  Right know postfix is receiving and putting it in the home
> folders per user, I just cant get imap and pop3 to start so I can
check
> the configuration of them
> 
> Bryan Pershall 
> ProjecTools.com, Inc. 
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://www.projectools.com 
> Tel: (281) 847-2097
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Tym Rehm
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Postfix or sendmail ?
> 
> What do you have installed and working at this point. You will need to
> Maildir for the mailbox format and turn procmail off as your
> mailbox_command in main.cf. Are you compiling or using an RPM?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Bryan Pershall
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Postfix or sendmail ?
> 
> Ok I found most of the howtos but I cant get Imap and pop3 to start
they
> don't say anything about it
> 
> Bryan Pershall 
> ProjecTools.com, Inc. 
> 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> http://www.projectools.com 
> Tel: (281) 847-2097
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Behalf Of Duncan Hill
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Postfix or sendmail ?
> 
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Bryan Pershall wrote:
> 
> > What should I do I have postfix receiving mail fine but then I have
to
> add
> > in so many other programs like courier-imap and pop3 and I am having
a
> > hard time configuring all of them.  I am trying to set up a company
> e-mail
> > server that is capable of pop3 and web mail what is my best and
> easiest
> > solution
> 
> You would have to do the same thing with sendmail.  Sendmail and
Postifx
> are 
> _just_ MTAs, nothing more.  Courier imap/pop is pretty easy to get
going
> 
> (imo), but I use system accounts, not virtual.  There are howtos out
> there.. 
> go find em with google.
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RE: [REDHAT] error I have not seen before

2002-02-10 Thread Bryan Pershall

Yes this is the case I finally got them started and they are working
good know

Bryan Pershall 
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On Behalf Of Keith Morse
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:32 AM
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Subject: RE: [REDHAT] error I have not seen before

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Bryan Pershall wrote:

> I tried that and Imap is not running and nothing is listening on port
> 143
> 
> 
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Bryan Pershall wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to start imap and I am doing 
> > /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/imapd.rc start 
> > and I get an error of 
> > bind:Address already in use
> > ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable
> > Can some on please help me
> 
> It means another program is already listening on that port.  My guess
is
> 
> that courier-imap is already running and you are trying to start a
> second 
> instance, or uw-imap is already running.
> 
> To see what programs are listening on what ports, run (as root):
> netstat -l -p
> 
> -l means show listening ports only
> -p means show the PID or program name listening on that port.


It is my understanding that xinetd normally start the imap daemon.  Is 
this true in your case?



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change_root d_count question

2002-02-10 Thread Karina Gómez

Hi, I have a Linux 7.1 running ok, but yesterday the system began to
show this message at startup:

change_root: old root has d_count=3


but all the daemons and services start without no problem..

What this message means ? Will it represent a problem in the future ?
How do i fix it ?


Thanks ,

Karina G.






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Re: ugly output from rsync

2002-02-10 Thread Chris Watt

At 04:56 PM 2/9/02 -0800, Jack Bowling wrote:

>rsync was recently updated...twice. maybe give the new one a shot.

As stated in my previous message I'm using 2.5.2, which I had to package as
an RPM myself as nobody else seemed to have gotten around to it (last time
I looked Redhat was still using rsync 2.4). To forstall any further helpful
comments: I switched from Redhat's standard version to this one _after_ I
noticed the transfer errors.
I'm not really keen on trying to use a CVS snapshot version or some such
for a backup system, so if they have major updates coming out in 2.5.3 I
think I'll just wait for the 2.5.3 release.
--

Who is this General Failure, and why is he reading my hard disk?



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Re: sendmail autoreply

2002-02-10 Thread Devon

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On Sunday 10 February 2002 01:42 am, Roger wrote:
> Hi guys!
>
> I know a tool whose name is vacation could auto reply the senders. But
> I can't find it out from RH 7.2 cds, where could I get it or it's in
> another RPM package? If so, what's name of it?
>
> Any help will be appreciated!

It's available here:

http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/rpms/vacation-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm

Hope that helps,

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ppp and bind

2002-02-10 Thread Edward Dekkers

After getting told to jump in the water :), and upgrading to 7.2 on this
server here I did.

I also ran up2date to update to all latest packages, and updated the kernel
via that as well for good measure.

In theory I now have the latest and greatest.

So, after spending all of today fixing everything that broke (which is
pretty much everything I had running), I seem to be back on-line.

Lo and behold, the ppp problem I experienced on the customer's server
happened to me on this server as well (complete lock-out on start-up, with
only Ctrl-Alt-Dlt possible).

(P.S. Dial-up on /dev/modem, configured both manually, and then tried with
rp3)

I've finally traced it back to the 'DEMAND' option in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0.

Turning it off fixes it. I can put it on, but then I have to turn off
'ONBOOT' to get past start-up.

Now, I'm SURE they're not supposed to be mutually exclusive, this has always
worked fine in RH 6.2!

Seems it sits there waiting indefinately for ppp to come up, which isn't
going to happen because no packets have flowed yet

Anybody come up with anything? Is this a bug of some sort?

On second thought, I'll leave the bind part of my question for later - one
thing at a time on a Sunday :)

Regards,

---
Edward Dekkers (Director)
Triple D Computer Services Pty. Ltd.




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RE: [REDHAT] error I have not seen before

2002-02-10 Thread Keith Morse

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Bryan Pershall wrote:

> I tried that and Imap is not running and nothing is listening on port
> 143
> 
> 
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Bryan Pershall wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to start imap and I am doing 
> > /usr/lib/courier-imap/libexec/imapd.rc start 
> > and I get an error of 
> > bind:Address already in use
> > ll_daemon_start: Resource temporarily unavailable
> > Can some on please help me
> 
> It means another program is already listening on that port.  My guess is
> 
> that courier-imap is already running and you are trying to start a
> second 
> instance, or uw-imap is already running.
> 
> To see what programs are listening on what ports, run (as root):
> netstat -l -p
> 
> -l means show listening ports only
> -p means show the PID or program name listening on that port.


It is my understanding that xinetd normally start the imap daemon.  Is 
this true in your case?



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