Re: up2date after eazel preview release 3
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 09:08, Bruce A. Mallett opined: > Yup! Does exactly the same thing here. Ditto. But, I reinstalled the old rpm and all works hunky-dory. I just had a problem with rpm-build: the eazel wouldn't uninstall (core dump with no core?), the old wouldn't install using --oldpackage or --force. But, I discovered -ivh works fine and the system doesn't even realize the eazel version is there. Just the database is a bit confused. -- Earth first! We'll strip-mine the other planets later. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problem upgrading the kernel
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 06:38, Tomás García Ferrari opined: > Hi, > > I am trying to upgrade the kernel to kernel-2.2.16-3. I did it like this: > > [root@host RPMS]# rpm -Uvh kernel-source-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm > > kernel-headers-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm > > kernel-source > > ## kernel-headers > >## cannot remove > > /usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include/linux - directory not empty cannot remove > > /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 - directory not empty > > [root@host RPMS]# rpm -ivh kernel-2.2.16-3.i586.rpm > > kernel > > ## > > Then I add in /etc/lilo.conf this: > > image=/boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-3 > > label=newlinux > > read-only > > root=/dev/hda5 > > And when I run lilo -v I have this error message (kernel boot is too > big!)... > > > [root@host RPMS]# lilo -v > > LILO version 21, Copyright 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger > > > > Reading boot sector from /dev/hda > > Merging with /boot/boot.b > > Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0 > > Added linux * > > Boot image: /boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-3 > > Kernel /boot/vmlinux-2.2.16-3 is too big > > Why is this happening? Any clue? Well, if the above is accurate, you don't have the new kernel installed. I saw source and headers, but no kernel. It will be kernel-2.2.16-3.i386.rpm. The one you show is the source, which is the sourcecode not the kernel. And, before you do it (as I did once and I know others have) don't do -Uch on the kernel itself as that can create some very nasty consequences. Instead, use -ivh and it will work just fine. As a matter of fact -ivh would also work OK for the source and just leave 2 source trees installed for 2 different kernel versions. -- If only closed minds came with closed mouths. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ntsysv freezes
On Wednesday 31 January 2001 08:26, Peter Peltonen opined: > On RH6.2: > > What I did was that I accidently mv'ed a file in /etc/rc.d/init.d and > rebooted. > > I restored the file to it's original place after the reboot. > > Now when ever I run 'setup' or 'ntsysv' or 'netconfig' the setup utility > starts but it freezes there - I cannot do anything, it does not respond > to keyboard. > > I can switch to another vt and kill the program there. ckconfig works. > > What happened? How can I fix my system? I can't offer an answer (other than reinstall) but, I had the same problem in 6.2 without ever moving anything. As a matter of fact, setup, sndconfig and anything else related to setup would do the same thing. I could change to another console or telnet in and kill it, but nothing else on that console would work. I asked about it on this group and never got any response at all. So I fixed it myself. My solution: I upgraded to 7.0 and it works now. -- 0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: XFree86-modules-4.0.2-6 conflict with Xconfigurator-4.5-1
On Monday 29 January 2001 21:45, Bob Hartung opined: > Hi, > While trying to upgrade to XFree86-4.0.2-6 I managed to goof things > up. I think that I have most of the XFree86-4.0.2-6.i586.rpm s > installed. I need to reinstall Xconfigurator the latest version of > which I can find is Xconfigurator-4.5-1 and it gives an conflict error > with XFree86-modules-4.0.2-6 when I try to install it. > > I have tried xf86cfg but it will not come up in graphic mode and > crashed everytime. Suggestions/ > Using RH 7 with updates and errata. [May move to mandrake if I can't > get things fixed] > TIA You can do it one of three ways, either of which might fail. But, I've had a little success with it in the past: 1. Install the XFree modules, then install Xconfigurator with --replacefiles on the end. 2. Do it the other way around. 3. Install XFree modules, then try rebuilding the Xconfigurator source rpm. Rarely (but sometimes) it will take into account files already installed. If you try one of the first two and it fails, you might try it in the reverse order. Sometimes that works. In many instances they contain identical versions of files. In this instance, the XFree package is likely newer. But, Xconfigurator might not be able to work with it as packaged. -- Me? A skeptic? Can you prove it? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: no etho start on boot
On 23-Jan-01 lee johnson opined: > i've read docs but can't decipher why linux isn't auto conneting me to > my @home > service...i have to manually do: > > insmod de4x5 > then go into network configuration from gnome menu and activate > it.. > > how do I automate this? :).. One way, not the correct but. one that works: add the insmod line to rc.local, followed by restarting the network or something like: ifconfig eth0 up I'm having a similar problem that I haven't had time to delve into. I chose to insmod the module, then restart the network. I have a vague recollection of not getting anything with just bringing the eth0 link up. No specific detail that I can recall. But, restarting the whole network is doing it all just fine. --- Everything you know is wrong. But some of it is a useful first approximation. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Best way to keep NFS mounts
On 23-Jan-01 Wayne Stout opined: > Greetings, all. > > I need to make sure that my RH 6.2 server re-mounts several NFS shares > after rebooting (until I can replace the old NCR Unix box with the new > Solaris box). > > I know there are several different ways to skin this cat, but I's like > to know which is the best/safest. Add the nfs shares to /etc/fstab, > rc.local, or run a shell script with the commands in it? Or is there > another way that I haven't thought of? Add them to fstab is best/easiest. The downside is that they must be available when the system reboots, no matter what method you choose. Otherwise errors & delays are inevitable in most circumstances. There are ways around that with some scripting, basically by adding '> /dev/null 2>&1' on the end. --- 0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Booting 6.2 without LILO problem
On 22-Jan-01 Vidiot opined: > A person I work with made a mistake and reloaded Win95 in the other > partition. Now that LILO is gone, he can't boot Linux. No, he didn't > make the emergency reboot floppy before installing Windoze. > > Is there a way to use the installation CDs to boot the installed system > so that lilo can be rerun? > > Any help in getting this guy going again, without destroying the > current > Linux install, will be appreciated. Boot from the CD or floppy for install, choose upgrade, don't select any packages, lilo will be reinstalled. At least, that's how I had to do it twice. --- Dead men tell no tales. Then again, neither do mimes. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Boot issue. INIT cannot execute etc/rc.d/sysinit
On 21-Jan-01 Patrick Lacchia opined: > > Yes I tried and it doesn't work. Here is what happen > > 1) I type "vi rc.sysinit" > 2) The file open and the bottom line says "rc.sysinit [readonly] > 3) I jump to the lines I want to delete and do a "dd" on the first one > 4) The bottom line becomes red and says "warning: changing a readonly > file" > 5) immediatly after a message pops up saying "Unable to open swap file > for > "rc.sysinit", recovery impossible > 6) follows by a new message "Press RETURN or enter command to continue" > 7) I press RETURN and go back to the lines > 8) I can now "dd" the 3 lines > 9) but when I try to "wq!" I get a message saying "rc.sysinit Can't > open > file for writing" and then "Press RETURN or enter command to continue" > > Nothing was saved. I can't understand why it was so easy to modify a > sys > file in the first place with a text pad and now it's impossible to > modify it > again. Looks like all the files are read-only. I am wondering if it's > due to > the linux emergency mode. The power of linux/unix. It allows you to do anything you want to the system as superuser, even if it isn't too wise an action. That's the prime reason one shouldn't stay logged-in as root all of time and chance compromising the system or accidentally issuing unwise commands. Such as the one I did early on: chmod -R o-x / As for being read-only and unable to modify easily, can't really give a definitive answer to the. I presume (wrongly, most likely) that it's to keep one from doing even more damage inadvertantly by requiring some forethought to be applied before acting. -- This is my brain... This is... WAIT! WHERE'S MY BRAIN? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Boot issue. INIT cannot execute etc/rc.d/sysinit
On 21-Jan-01 Patrick Lacchia opined: > Guess what? I stupidly added 3 lines to etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. It looked > safe, > you just open the file with gnupad, add the lines, save. Safe until the > next > time you reboot and find out that you can't use RedHat 6.2 anymore. > During > the launch I now have a message saying, "INIT cannot execute > etc/rc.d/sysinit". I tried several rescue solutions and so far the only > one > that gives me some result is to boot by typing linux emergency. That > gives > me the chance to log as root before INIT (and therefore rc.sysinit) is > launched. From there I can access the file, edit it with VI but > unfortunately not save it. The file is read only. I can copy the file > on a > floppy disk and open the copy with Windows notepad but it's useless > because > I can't erase the original on the hard drive. It looks like while in > emergency mode all the files are read only. > That's where I need some help: > - How can I remove the 3 lines I added to rc.sysinit and save the file? > - Is rc.sysinit corrupted? And if so could I use root/rc.sysinit~ as a > backup? > - Is there an alternate solution? > > Guys I am stuck so I really need your help. > > Thanks in advance. mount -o rw,remount This remounts the partition as read-write. I only tried it (just now) with a mount that was in fstab and the action may not be totally precise. So, you might also have to add the options for fs-type (ext2) and mount-point. I would imagine you could do it without either since it's a remount. But, if it fails for some reason, try adding them in and try again. -- Excuse my english. I went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: .tar.gz to rpms
On 21-Jan-01 John Aldrich opined: > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Ted Gervais wrote: >> Is there a simple way of converting *.tar.gz files to RPM files >> for RH7.? >> > Supposedly you can do an "rpm --tarbuild " I have > only tried it a couple times and it hasn't worked for me... > 'course I'm on RH 6.2, but... rpm -tb --target= builds binary files. rpm -ta --target= builds binary & srpms. rpm -bs builds an srpm of the file. There are also -bb -bs and -ba available. All methods require a spec file for the rpm already exist. If it doesn't, no build. That would then require one to find or design a spec file for the tarball in order to build it. The -b? options are mentioned in 'man rpm' but, I don't recall if the -t? options are or not. -- Dead men tell no tales. Then again, neither do mimes. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Question about different boot configurations
On 16-Jan-2001 Robert Key opined: > Hi, > Does anyone know how to do the following? > > I have compiled two different kernels (version 2.2.16-22) on my system. > I would like each kernel to have its own set of modules. The problem is > if the kernel version is say 2.2.16-22 (rh7) then the modules are > placed > in /lib/modules/2.2.16-22. How can one change this directory and have > the respective kernel find its correct modules? cd /usr/src/linux Now, using vi, vim, emacs, nano, pico, joe, or whatever editor you prefer, edit Makefile and on the line 'EXTRAVERSION =' change it to something other than what's already there. It should say (using what you have above) -22 and can be cnaged to -22.1 or -monkey or -22.iLIKElinux or anything you want. That will create modules in a different directory, Just make sure to name the kernel image, initrd (if you use one) and System.map accordingly. -- Five days a week my body is a temple. The other two, it's an amusement park. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: mv command (rename?)
On 15-Jan-2001 Tony Mueller opined: > Hello, > > I would like to rename a large directory without a copy taking place. > (i dont have disk space for both directories to exist at the same time) > the command: > mv olddir newdir > makes newdir first and copies all the files from olddir into it. Are they on the same partition? If so, it shouldn't cause duplicate copies of anything, simply switch names on the directory, even if the directory is in some other subdirectory on the same partition. If they're on separate partitions, I fail to see what the problem would be with temporarily having both exist for a short time. I mean, if you move the directory from A to B, A already has it on there & won't take any more space, and B has room or it wouldn't move there in the first place. -- 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: (no subject)
On 13-Jan-2001 tides anugraha opined: > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? Not if I can help it! Accidents are usually unpreventable, though. -- Death is just Nature's way of saying, "Hey! You're not alive anymore!" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: have I been cracked?
On 11-Jan-2001 Micah Yoder opined: > Weird happenings starting last week... > > /var/log/messages has no entries since jan 5. Permission is 600, so it > should be writable. > > the 'userhelper' program's suid bit was taken away so I could no longer > halt the system as a user. I fixed that. > > the 'man' program's sgid bit was unset so i couldn't view man pages. > fixed that. > > I just realized while trying to start NFS that the file > /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs doesn't exist! nfslock does. > > When logging in on console, it prints a PAM message saying if the login > succeeded or failed. That didn't used to happen. > > the wtmp file seems to not be messed with. > > A day or so before it started happening i was messing with network > settings. But I think everything was normal for at least a day after > that. Could be the cause. > What do you think? maybe cable modems aren't all they're cracked up to > be. Are you firewalling it OK? That would be a great idea if you aren't. There are pages that will test you ports for you and show what is open, closed or refused. > I am running a stock RH 6.2. I don't think I've even applied any > patches. What about linuxconf? I hate to sound like a broken record on this but, new people show up daily: LINUXCONF CAN BE AND FREQUENTLY IS DANGEROUS. Not everybody has problems. Enough do that it should be treated as pre-alpha at best. -- I've given up trying to change the world. I'm going to toilet train it so that I never have to change it again. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: have I been cracked?
On 12-Jan-2001 Micah Yoder opined: > "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: > >> Now, for you logs. First run "/etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog status" and see >> what if the system things syslogd and klogd are running. Then run >> "/etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog restart" to get your logs going again. This >> should also give you some of the log messages you missed. > > Great Scott, /etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog itself is missing, among a > surprising array of other things: > > [root@nova /root]# rpm -Va > changed > [root@nova /root]# grep -i missing changed > missing/etc/rpc > missing/usr/sbin/rpcinfo > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K60crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K60crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S40crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S40crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S40crond > missing/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K60crond > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K99syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K99syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S30syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S30syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S30syslog > missing/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K99syslog > missing/usr/include/rpc/rpc.h > missing/usr/include/rpc/rpc_des.h > missing/usr/include/rpc/rpc_msg.h > missing/usr/bin/lpr > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs > missing/sbin/rpc.lockd > missing/sbin/rpc.statd > missing/sbin/rpcdebug > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.mountd > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.rquotad > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/rstatd > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/rusersd > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.rstatd > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.rusersd > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/rwalld > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.rwalld > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/rwhod > missing/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K30sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc1.d/K30sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S80sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S80sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S80sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S80sendmail > missing/etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K30sendmail > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.yppasswdd > missing/usr/sbin/rpc.ypxfrd > > Now replacing this stuff will be fun... I don't happen to have a RH > 6.2 > CD on me... I guess I can copy most of it from my untouched other RH > 6.2 system... and grab all the security updates from redhat.com! > > I was hoping to wait for 7.1 to do a complete reinstall... Actually, just download & install initscripts & the programs you need (syslog, sendmail, cron, etc) to get them back. Trouble, yes. But not a complete reinstall. Now, the question still remains what caused it to happen in the first place. If a breakin is the answer, you need a reinstall regardless as I'll guarantee there are other problems you haven't even located yet. -- It's no use arguing. I've already made up your mind. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: No ATAPE CDR or SCSI Tape after RH 7 reinstall
On 08-Jan-2001 Bob Hartung opined: > Hi again, > More problems. I have had to reinstall RH7 from scratch after a > failed upgrade from which I was unable to recover with any of the tools > that I know and my limited knowledge. Now I cannot seem to get either > my SCSI tape unit or my ATAPE CDR going again. > > The settings for the kernel recompile > > Y Loadable module support CONFIG_MODULES > Y Kernel module loaderCONFIG_KMOD > Y Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk >/cdrom/tape/floppy support CONFIG_GLD_DEV:IDE > > M Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD > N Include IDE/ATAPI TAPE Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE > > Y SCSI Emulation Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI > M Loopback device support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP > > Y SCSI SupportCONFIG_SCSI > M SCSI Disk Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD > Y SCSI Tape Support CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST > Y SCSI CD-ROM Support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR > > Y SCSI Generic SupportCONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG > > After a 'make mrproper' I did a 'make dep clean bzImage' and then a > 'make modules' and a 'make modules_install' after moving the former > /lib/modules/(directory) out by renaming it. > > Upon booting the following error was noted: > > Unresolved dependencies in /lib/modules/2.2.16-22 scsi/sd.mod.o > [Punctuation might not be absolutely correct] > > According to the HOW-TO the kernel is set up properly with the > following change. I do not have any ATAPI tape drives and I do have a > SCSI tape (OnStream ADR50) newly installed. I am not sure what to do > with the unresolved dependency issue. If you did make mrproper after setting the above via configuration, you've likely tromped all over your /usr/src/linux/.config file. If so, that might explain things. The make mrproper step eliminates previously compiled stuff and settings. It should be performed before make xconfig/menuconfig so that saved settings stay saved. One thing you could try is install/reinstall the source rpm, go into the directory and do a make oldconfig. Then use the .config file created and turn off a lot of the junk you don't need and turn on those you do. Anything you don't know, leave it as-is. This has bailed me out a couple of times, including tonight when I found I had a setting turned off that I really needed. -- Make yourself at home. Clean my kitchen. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: linking two partitions
On 08-Jan-2001 Jack Bowling opined: > I need some confirmation: my /usr and /usr/local partitions are nearing > the end of freespace. I have a 20 gigger I was going to use for backup > spinning away ready to be filled. Can I just create two new partitions > on it and link them to /usr and /usr/local? Seems like this is a > natural > ability for *nix. Or would I be better off linking the partitions via > software RAID? The way I usually do it is to make the partitions on the new drive, copy (not move) everything from the 2 old partitions to the new, edit fstab to reflect the new ones, then change to init 1, umount the old & mount the new, then change to init 3. Links work but, they can cause problems. -- It's no use arguing. I've already made up your mind. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RH general suggestions/questions
On 07-Jan-2001 Tony Schonfeld opined: > Hello , > > I come from Debian and try RH-7.0 at this time, > i like this distribution and i've some questions/suggestions about. > 5/ Linuxconf in Xwindows seem to have some curious behaviour. Linuxconf on the commandline has some curious behaviour. I would recommend one not use it. Use other tools or manually edit configs. AN OPINION FROM ONE WHO HAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS CORRECTING LINUXCONF MISTAKES (for the benefit of those who haven't had problems or haven't found them yet). > 6/ I've try rpmfind like "rpmfind kernel" and i've always a old >version of kernel (kernel-2.2.16-2) NOT kernel-2.2.16-20 >is it rigth ? -- Chaos, panic and disorder -- my work here is done. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: rpm funnies
On 06-Jan-2001 Bob Hartung opined: > This is a repost as there were no responses to my prior > post. I seem to be in a catch-22. > > I cannot install the RH7 errata for glibc-2.2-9.i386.rpm > because I have rpm 3.0.5 installed yet when I try to upgrade > to rpm 3.0.6-6x I receive an error that it conflicts with > glibc >= 2.1.3 . Can someone please explain how to get > around this problem? Specificity usually is more helpful than generality. What are the errors? It matters. I'll make a guess that it's something about conflicting with one or more files from glibc when trying to upgrade the rpm. There are 4 possible ways to solve it. One or more may not work. One surely will but, it's usually a last resort. Choices in the best order: 1. Try 'rpm -Uvh --nodeps glibc*' then upgrade rpm. 2. Place the rpm and glibc upgrades in a directory by themselves. Then try 'rpm -Uvh *' and see if it works. Most of the time this solves it for me. 3. Upgrade the rpm first: 'rpm -Uvh rpm-* --replacefiles' should overwrite conflicting files. Then upgrade glibc. 4. 'rpm -Uvh --force glibc-*' followed by an upgrade of the rpm. Or even reverse order of them. If none of the above addresses the real errors you get, how about naming them and see what kinds of help that brings. -- I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsubscibe
On 06-Jan-2001 Gustav Schaffter opined: > Hrm... > > Shouldn't that be subscibe? ;-) Damn typos! Let me try it again. > Uncle Meat wrote: >> >> On 06-Jan-2001 Àî×Ó¾ü opined: >> > unsubscibe! >> subscribe! subscibe! >> > unsubscibe! >> subscribe! subscibe! >> > unsubscibe! >> subscribe! subscibe! >> > unsubscibe! >> subscribe! subscibe! >> > unsubscibe! >> subscribe! subscibe! >> >> Ha ha, sucker! You'll never get off of this list! -- Talk is cheap because the supply vastly exceeds the demand. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: unsubscibe
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RE: BIOS setting: should P-n-P OS be on or off?
On 04-Jan-2001 Jonathan Wilson opined: > For Linux should the Plug-n-Play OS setting (in the BIOS) be set to on > or off? I've seen a lot of advice about turning it off. However, I'm using 2 PCs here that both have it turned on. Neither has had any problem whatsoever with it this way. One of the 2 has a soundcard that would only work PnP. It works just fine in Linux. I don't run 'Doze at all but, one of them used to have it installed and everything worked fine in that as well. -- It's not a bug, it's tradition! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: File system corruption after RPM Updates
On 05-Jan-2001 Chuck Carson opined: > > I just had a very interesting time trying to install some updates. I > have a > cherry installed RH 6.2 box, installed with no GUI stuff what-so-ever. > I > applied all the updates from the update site except for any of the > kernel > updates. Several of them bombed because they were dependent upon X > libraries > and etc.. This was expected. However, once I rebooted it failed to boot > completely arguing that the root file system was corrupt. I ran fsck > manually and fixed many many errors (I was probably prompted 500 or > more > times by fsck). I finnally was at a prompt and had fsck checking all > filesystems and everything seemed fine. Upon another reboot, I started > getting ide write and seek errors spamming the screen. I also kept > seeing > ide0:reset messages. Normally I would think this to be a drive going > bad but > it happened immediately after applying these updates. Anyone know what > update could have caused this? I did apply the glic update. All updates > applied were the latest on valinux's site as of 4 days ago. Perhaps the hardware is going bad and the coinciding with the updates is...uhh...well...coincidence. -- It is easier to fix Unix than to live with NT. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: [Fwd: tulfw1.brets.elevating.com 01/04/01:11.01 system check
On 05-Jan-2001 Bret Hughes opined: > > Logcheck found these in my logs on my firewall. What on earth is port > 0? Coming from port 8 all all places what the heck is that? I get a > ton of stuff banging on this box all the time but I never noticed port > 0 > before. Not to say it isn't buried in all the 111, 23 21 etc. but at > least I know what they are trying there :) > > > > Unusual System Events > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Jan 4 10:31:17 tulfw1 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 > 151.164.62.11:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=56 S=0x00 I=3899 F=0x4000 T=250 > (#6) > Jan 4 10:31:17 tulfw1 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 > 151.164.62.11:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=56 S=0x00 I=3900 F=0x4000 T=250 > (#6) > Jan 4 10:31:18 tulfw1 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 > 151.164.62.11:8 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:0 L=56 S=0x00 I=3901 F=0x4000 T=250 > (#6) > > Any insight appreciated. I have no idea what you're getting hit with. But, gnapster claims in the README that one of its settings uses port 0 if the client is behind a firewall that can't connect directly or something like that (whatever they were trying to get at was a little unclear anyway). Maybe somebody is using a misconfigured client, or maybe the kiddies are hard at work trying to champion a new non-existant entry path. Or, maybe I just have no idea. -- Sometimes you have to stride boldly up to life, look it straight in the eye, and say "huh?" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: how to compile ide-scsi module?
On 04-Jan-2001 christopher j bottaro opined: > i'm not using a redhat kernel anymore, i had to recompile the kernel to > get > my athlon working properly. isn't there some option to turn on when i > do > "make menuconfig" to compile the ide-scsi module when i do "make > modules"? > thanks. Try under 'Block Devices' and from there choose 'SCSI emulation support' That's where it is under make xconfig anyway. I've only used menuconfig once and can't recall if the options are the same, though I'd think it really weird if they weren't. -- Earth first! We'll strip-mine the other planets later. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: GET ME OFF THIS *@$!^ LIST
On 01-Jan-2001 Hal Burgiss opined: > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 12:23:21PM -0600, Uncle Meat wrote: >> >> Amazing. I get reminders every month like clockwork. From this list, >> the >> install list and the announce list. > > Let me count my lists: redhat, guinness, zoot, hedwig, watch, announce, > redhat-devel, linux-security (hosted by RH), and narry any such mail. > Perhaps this is a mailman configuration option? But since I don't have > password available for most of these, I can't turn that option on (if > it exists). I doubt that it's an option because I never turned it on. I subscribed and that's all. I've been on this list and the announce list for 3 years and the install list for 1-1/2. I only started getting the reminders when the list management setup changed. -- What Would Elvis Do? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: GET ME OFF THIS *@$!^ LIST
On 01-Jan-2001 Michael Burger opined: > True enough. > > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:36:01 -0500, Hal Burgiss wrote: > >>On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 12:29:17PM -0400, Michael Burger wrote: >>> Not that it ever comes out. I've been on this list for a number of >>> months, and have yet to receive the monthly reminder. >> >>Me neither. I get that from other lists, but none of the Redhat lists. >>As a last resort, one could set up sendmail or other MTA to bounce the >>list mail. After enough of those, your problems are gone ;) Amazing. I get reminders every month like clockwork. From this list, the install list and the announce list. -- Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Installing hard drive
On 30-Dec-2000 Aaron Prohaska opined: > I don't currently have a boot floppy. Is there a command that will > create > one? man mkbootdisk Basically: /sbin/mkbootdisk -- Too many freaks, not enough circuses. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Installing hard drive
On 30-Dec-2000 Aaron Prohaska opined: > Can someone give me some advice on how to install a IDE hard drive in a > box where I already have two SCSI drives? I have added the IDE drive to > the machine and have it setup as the master IDE and the CDROM as the > slave IDE device. > > When I boot, linux companies about the hard drive not being the right > file system type like ext2. I am wondering if the its trying to boot > from the master IDE device instead of from the first SCSI device like > it > should. > > Would it help if I installed the IDE drive as the Slave behind the > CDROM? My goal here is to get the IDE drive working and install Win2K > on > it and run that as a guest OS inside of VMWare. This is just the first > step in many that I have to solve. You might try booing from a boot floppy and setting it up, then rewriting lilo to the mbr of the IDE drive. Not sure how this will affect what you're trying to do, but I can't see any reason it would. -- It's no use arguing. I've already made up your mind. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: MRTG and Redhat 7 upgrade
On 27-Dec-2000 Tony Campisi opined: > I just upgraded from Redhat 5.2 to Redhat 7.0. We were using MRTG to > check > the status of our routers throughout the company. > There is a reference to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S99mrtg > and the startup script is in /etc/rc.d/init.d/mrtg. The contents are as > follows: >#! /bin/sh > echo "Starting: WAN stats monitoring tool" > /usr/local/mrtg-2/bin/mrtg /usr/local/mrtg-2/conf/mrtg.cfg > > After the install, the wanstats fail to work. Did anyone else have this > same > difficulty after the upgrade? Please point me in the right direction. Not specifically with this program. But, in general, I've had several things stop after an upgrade, usually because of different libraries. And with much smaller jumps between upgrades (6.0 to 6.2 for example). The usual solution is recompile the errant program or get an rpm created for the version being run. -- /etc/passwd is full -- go away! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: /etc/profile
On 27-Dec-2000 Huiyuan Ma opined: > I wonder when . /etc/profile is executed except I run > it explicitly? It gets read into a login 1. At the time of login. 2. When one types 'source /etc/profile' 3. When it's read in by a script, but then it disappears when the script finishes running. 4. At boot. Actually it's #1 above because it isn't used until one actually logs in. Crontab doesn't use it, processes don't use it, scripts don't use it unless called (really rare and not advised). Only logged-in users use it. -- It's not a bug, it's tradition! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: 2.2.16 Kernel & that "other" filesystem
On 26-Dec-2000 Harry Putnam opined: > > I finally broke down and got my wife a separate computer. She wants > nothing to do with linux. Now we have a `his' and `hers' setup. > > No more reboots for my machine. > > This new machine is running windows 2000 the NT version. > > I wanted to put a small linux installation on it, for my own use when > necessary, so installed 7.0 on a third drive. > > Not knowing much about windows: > I hadn't realized that win2000 NT runs a different filesystem, not > vfat. > Also doesn't seem to have a handy way to get the underlying dos OS. > Doesn't have an `fdisk' either. > > I was even more suprised to find that the 2.2.16-22 kernel with 7.0 > doesn't grok the win2000 filesytem and can't mount it. Linux fdisk > reports it as: > ID system > 7 HPFS/NTFS > > Attempts to mount it tell me the kernel doesn't support it. > > Checking the `documentation' with kernel source package: > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ > There is documentation for both: > hpfs.txt ntfs.txt > > HPFS is apparently for OS/2, and the `ntfs' option returns: > mount -tntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos2000 > mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel > > However the documentation file sighted above talks as if it should be > able to mount this filesystem. At least readonly, and doesn't mention > a need to recompile the kernel. > > Anyone here know if this is the correct `type' and if the kernel > should support it by default? 'Doze-2K can do vfat or ntfs. It's selectable during install. It seems you chose the latter. The kernel supports ntfs but, doesn't usually support it stock (I don't think so, anyway). You can recompile and add it as a builtin or a module. Or, you can reinstall 'Doze and choose vfat. I haven't personally used it. But, a friend bought and installed it and says he was told by M$ that he should choose vfat unless he's on a 'Doze network because of various options and services he wouldn't otherwise need. -- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: To run Java in Linux
On 25-Dec-2000 Mike McNally opined: > >> The PATH variable in /etc/profile is usually one of them. That >> requires >> either a reboot or a logout/login to reset the variable. > > REBOOT!?! Ack, bite your tongue!! :-) I think I said (correct my above quoting if I'm wrong) reboot or. Both work. Logout/login is more desirable. > All you really need to do (unless your /etc/profile and/or your > .profile, > wherever you choose to put your PATH setting, is really weird) is > source > the file. Thus if your PATH is indeed set up in /etc/profile (and that > kinda creeps me out, but that's just me) then: > > % . /etc/profile > > will do the trick. Or of course you can change the setup file and then > manually re-set your PATH variable on the command line. True, unless you updated it all in a term window and want to make it apply to everything. Sourcing in a term window will last until one closes the term window. A logout/login gets it all, as does getting out of X, sourcing /etc/profile, then getting back in X. The only problem I have with sourcing is that it tends to duplicate the entire PATH and add it onto the one that already exists. Not really a problem but, doing it the other ways prevents an extremely long $PATH variable if one desires to look at it. -- There are 3 kinds of people - men, women and unix. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: To run Java in Linux
On 25-Dec-2000 Huiyuan Ma opined: > Sorry,still have two questions. > After I installed j2sdk-1-3-0-linux-rpm , when I > entered the directory of .../bin,the javac doesn't > work! I was told the command couldn't be found.And my > netscape seems doesn't work with Applet. Are there any > enviromental variables to set? Can anybody tell me the > reason or where to find the related stuff to study?Thanks! The PATH variable in /etc/profile is usually one of them. That requires either a reboot or a logout/login to reset the variable. There are likely others as well since it's java (which I don't have installed). To run it in the bin directory cd to it and type ./javac Unfortunately, you could easily run into various other variable problems and doing it this way will usually point that out. The best thing to do is rpmn -ql | less and look for docs in the listting that will tell you how to set it all up. -- The fastest-moving thing in the world is a bad check. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: RE: printing problems
On 23-Dec-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > > > >> ** Original Subject: RE: printing problems >> ** Original Sender: Uncle Meat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> ** Original Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 02:09:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> ** Original Message follows... > >> >> On 22-Dec-2000 Larry Mintz opined: >> > >> > -- >> > E-Mail: Larry Mintz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Date: 22-Dec-2000 >> > Time: 06:37:16 >> > I get the following error when I print moderately loarge files >> > lpr: :temp file write error >> > How do I fix this problem ? >> > I can print small postscript and text files >> > But when I print large postscript files Iget this error. >> > I used to be able to print in Applixware, but now I can't >> > I have an Epson printer . The command I used to give it is >> > lpr -P %s and that used to work Now I get this >> > lpr -P %sEpson >> > No printer found >> > Then I tried >> > lpr -PEpson %s Then I got lpr -PEpson %s Epson >> > HELP ! >> >> What does the command 'df' show? > it showed /var 100 % > So I removed the offending directory that was taking up 40% space. > Everything works now :) I hope it wasn't something trivial, like /var/log. -- I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: TERM variable/setting in console mode
On 22-Dec-2000 John P. Verel opined: > On 12/22/00, 01:18:02AM -0600, Uncle Meat wrote: >> >> On 22-Dec-2000 John P. Verel opined: >> > I'd like to change the font, characters per line and lines on the >> > screen >> > when in console mode. I gather that setting the TERM environment >> > variable may be the way to do this. However, finding an alternative >> > description for my machine is proving daunting. My hardware is a >> > Dell >> > Precision Workstation 220 with a Sony UltraScan P991 19" monitor and >> > Diamond Viper V770D Video Card. I'm running RedHat7, out of the box >> > installation. Any suggestions? >> >> 'man X' (thats's a capital X) explains, in inordinate detail, how > Thanks for the reply. I'd not thought to look under X, as console > (e.g. > on my maching ALT-CTL-F1) is not a gui interface. I'll have a look at > the man pages, though. Sorry. I was up late and just now noticed you said console, though I might still have mistaken what you wanted for a term window rather than actual console. I can think of manpages that may/may not have what you want: terminfo environ term ncurses These, of course, reference each other and other pages. -- Plagiarism saves time. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Only 1 page prints -> smb/Win98/CANON
On 21-Dec-2000 Luke C Gavel opined: > Hi, > > I have a CANON BJC-1000 connected to a Win98 machine and > samba-1.9.18p10-3is running on a RH5.2 machine. The RH5.2 client > is using the BJC-600 filter, and everything seems to work fine > except for one little problem. > > It only prints the first page of any print job sent to the Win98 > machine. However, all local Win98 print jobs print in their > entirety. When I change the printtool option from "1 page" to > something like "8 page", the first eight pages are shrunk onto > the first page. The print job always disappears from the Win98's > print queue right after the first page is printed. > > I tried printing with the 'Send EOF after print job' option both > on and off. I tried altering some options in the Win98 printer > properties like RAW to EMF, and etc. Has anyone encountered this > problem before and what have they done to fix it? Had the same problem. Fixed it by moving it to the linux box and using the UP (uniprint) version of the bjc-600 print driver. Not sure if this driver version is available with printtool for 5.2. But, it's been in ghostscript for a long time. I first experimented with it when I had 5.2 installed. A good alternative: move the printr as stated above and install RH6.0 or above. I know it's available in the default printtool drivers supplied with 6.0 and 6.2. -- Make yourself at home. Clean my kitchen. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: TERM variable/setting in console mode
On 22-Dec-2000 John P. Verel opined: > I'd like to change the font, characters per line and lines on the > screen > when in console mode. I gather that setting the TERM environment > variable may be the way to do this. However, finding an alternative > description for my machine is proving daunting. My hardware is a Dell > Precision Workstation 220 with a Sony UltraScan P991 19" monitor and > Diamond Viper V770D Video Card. I'm running RedHat7, out of the box > installation. Any suggestions? 'man X' (thats's a capital X) explains, in inordinate detail, how geometries and other settings work. Also, you can look around on your system for 'xdefaults' (vim has one on mine) and Xdefaults (emacs has one of those). You can also find lots of information on the internet via search engines that will explain things in far less detail than the nampages. At least, that's how I've always done mine, when I have done mine. -- Make yourself at home. Clean my kitchen. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: printing problems
On 22-Dec-2000 Larry Mintz opined: > > -- > E-Mail: Larry Mintz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 22-Dec-2000 > Time: 06:37:16 > I get the following error when I print moderately loarge files > lpr: :temp file write error > How do I fix this problem ? > I can print small postscript and text files > But when I print large postscript files Iget this error. > I used to be able to print in Applixware, but now I can't > I have an Epson printer . The command I used to give it is > lpr -P %s and that used to work Now I get this > lpr -P %sEpson > No printer found > Then I tried > lpr -PEpson %s Then I got lpr -PEpson %s Epson > HELP ! What does the command 'df' show? > This message was sent by XFMail So was this message. -- Therapy is expensive, popping bubble wrap is cheap. You choose. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: ipchains firewalling
On 20-Dec-2000 Mulcahy, Chris opined: > Works, perfectly! Thanks, Charles. > > > > I'm unsure how I managed to not get the list footer. I'm fairly > certain that I sent my message Plain Text, but received a bounce from > someone complaining about HTML. Maybe I forgot to set it plain text > and the list software stripped the HTML and removed the footer. Just > speculation. > > Anyway, thanks for the help. Worked like a > charm! > > > Chris Mulcahy > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Charles Galpin [ HREF="/tpl/Message/424JAHDCU/Editor?ToRec=iTo=cgalpin@lighthouse-softwar > e.com">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:01 PM > > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > >Subject: Re: ipchains firewalling > > > > > > > > > > > >IPMASQADM="/usr/sbin/ipmasqadm" > > >LOCALIF="eth0" > > >LOCALIP=`/sbin/ifconfig $LOCALIF | grep inet | cut -d : > -f 2 | cut -d > > >-f 1` > > >INTERNALIP="192.168.2.2" > > >$IPMASQADM portfw -a -P tcp -L $LOCALIP 25 -R $INTERNALIP > 25 > > >$IPMASQADM portfw -a -P udp -L $LOCALIP 25 -R $INTERNALIP > 25 > > >$IPMASQADM portfw -a -P tcp -L $LOCALIP 110 -R > $INTERNALIP 110 > > >$IPMASQADM portfw -a -P udp -L $LOCALIP 110 -R > $INTERNALIP 110 > > > > > >charles > > >p.s. Just curious, but how did you message not get a list > footer? > > > > > >On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Mulcahy, Chris wrote: > > > > > >> Greetings: > > >> > > >> I have successfully set up ipchains as a firewall for > my > > >newly installed T1. > > >> It blocks all traffic coming in and masquerades > outbound > > >traffic. That is > > >> working fine. > > >> > > >> Now, how do I forward incoming traffic on ports 25 and > 110 > > >to my internal > > >> mail server? > > >> > > >> Thanks in advance > > >> Chris Mulcahy > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >Redhat-list mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > href="/tpl/Info/Popup?hidden___url=https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/li > stinfo/redhat-list" target="_blank"> > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > I usually have filters to wipe this out before I even download it. I turned them off to test some other filters. The above is what your mail gets sent as, even though the headers claim it is being sent in plain test. Not only does html get through, the mailer htmlizes everything it receives and sends out. Thought you might like to know. -- Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Bug in 2.2.18?
On 20-Dec-2000 Steve Kieu opined: > > Hi, all I think it is too soon to say but the > performance is worse that if I run 2.2.17 with my > computer, My computer hang once with 18 after rather > long up time, never like that in 2.2.17. And yeah, > other performance seems to be worse. Now I try to > switch back to 17 and run in teh same situation and > check if it happens. > Has anybody had that with 18? No. I have it installed on 2 machines, one of them with 2 different kernels. All is fine excepting a module I left out of one of the versions. -- Press every key to continue. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Any issues with SCSI external ZIPs???
On 18-Dec-2000 Manuel A. Camacho Q. opined: > Hi! > > I am getting a new external SCSI ZIP (250 MB), but I want to know if > there > is any issue I should know or if I can make it work with Linux just > "out of > the box". > > I will use it for backup purposes (my file folders only) using RH 6.2 > and > 7.0. Had one hooked up on version 4.2 thru 6.2 and it worked flawlessly. Still have it but, no longer use it even though it still works fine. -- There's no place like ~ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: MOZILLA - where are you?
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:05:53 -0500 (EST) Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > www.mozilla.org or whatever it is? or are you talking about a rewrite of > mozilla? > > Mozilla sucks, to be completely honest and so does netscape 6 (mozilla > is > actually netscape 5 written under open source licensing, which is why > there is no netscape 5). > > Mozilla has been around through most if not all of Netscape Navigator's > history. NS and Mozilla have been partners/cousins for a long time > (email > sent from netscape mail will mention mozilla in its headers too if you > look). > > I wish a nice group of programmers would give UNIX (Linux, etc) its own > web browser/email client/whatever suite to be proud of. This netscape > communism really sucks. > >:/ There are a few that look a little promising. Opera is getting better. It's commercial. Still needs work but, useable. Galeon is starting to look good. Still a little buggy, possibly because it's built on the mozilla engine. Even so, it's a lot less overhead than either AOL/Netscape or mozilla. Requires gnome installed, and relatively recent versions at that. Also requires one to keep updating mozilla and several gnome files to make newer, less-buggy versions work. I detest gnome and mozilla, but I want an alternative to the captivity we're in with the current only semi-bugproof graphic browser available, so I deal with it, grit my teeth and keep gnome up-to-date. Konqueror (KDE2) is better than the old kfm, though it could still use some work. The downside is, you have to have KDE installed even if it's the only konqueror is the only thing you use. The ending of the last paragraph also applies here in that I don't like KDE/bloatware but, I use an app or two and have to keep it recent to do so. I've tried a couple of others whose names escape me, one that also used mozilla as it's engine. I've even tried one that claimed to be separate from mozilla but, it required mozilla be installed and run before it would work: akin to all of the links my wife has been folowing on her MAC that claim to be freeware then mention the cost right on the download page. None of these unamed browsers were anything to write home about but, maybe a couple will progress to the point of looking hopeful in the future. -- Earth first! We'll strip-mine the other planets later. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: No initrd-2.2.26-3 on i386 kernel-2.2.26-3 update?
On 13-Dec-2000 Bob Taylor opined: > I installed the kernel-2.2.16-3 updates on my wife's Pentium and > noticed that there is no initrd installed. What do I do? As root: /sbin/mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.16-3.img 2.2.16-3 That will create a new one. The next question is, do you really need it? It's generally only needed for the non-auto-detected hardware required when booting up from the BIOS, such as SCSI hard drives on an older SCSI card (like early Adpatecs) or network cards needed in order to set network settings that are used to complete login for a network. Just a couple of examples here. But, most people don't usually require them. Most things can be handled with /etc/conf.modules after the boot process reaches the normal stage where they are installed automatically. Then again, having one doesn't hurt anything. Just uses a little disk space. -- Withdrawal is for quitters. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: make modules failure
On 13-Dec-2000 Bob Hartung opined: > Hi again, > Got a kernel going but the make modules crashed every time > with the following: > > In file included from radio-miropcm20.c:13: > ../sound/lowlevel/miroaci.h:9: # error compiling a driver > that needs the ACI-mixer but without ACI-mixer support > . . . . . > make[2]: *** [radio-miropcm20.0] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/drivers/char' > > This crashed whether I have sound support turned on in the > kernel configuration or not. I do not need sound for a > masquerade server - and have never run into problems like > this before with a kernel compile back to RH 5.2. It looks more like the radio-whatever-it-is stuff under the part titled 'Amateur Radio Support' rather than sound. Is all of that turned off? > Ignorance possibly, but what happens if I delete every file > with a name like radio-miro*? > Is there a configuration file for modules that needs to be > changed. I do not see any reference to radio-miro or > similiar name in the kernel configurator [and I'm tired of > repeating the kernel setup.] Deleting it will only make it fail because it won't be able to find the stuff it was told it needs. > Direction please. Try configuring once more and making sure all of the amateur radio options are off. Also, you might look at getting the source for 2.2.17 or 2.2.18. I had loads of problems trying to get 2.2.16 to make everything the first few tries. My errors were with m$do$ and v-obese options, though I only wanted them as a 'what if I need them' possibility. I haven't had any notable problems with 2.2.17 (compiled several times) and 2.2.18 (which has only been compiled once so far). -- To boldly go where I surely don't belong. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: gnome finding libs in KDE???
On 14-Dec-2000 christopher j bottaro opined: > i've have KDE2 installed. and i'm installing gnome now. the problem > (accually, i don't even know if its a problem) is that the installation > instructions for gnome says to "download, compile and install the > following > packages in order.". well i started...i got audiofile, compiled and > installed it to /usr/local/gnome. well, package X is dependent on some > audiofile libs and files. well configure for package X is finding the > audiofile files in /usr/local/kde2, not in /usr/local/gnome...!!! what > do i > do? > > thanks for the help! hopefully in a few more weeks i won't be such a > linux > newbie anymore and can figure these things out on my own... Almost everything with a configure script has an option to specify paths to where files are located. Those that don't have a configure script can almost always be changed in the Makefile. Type: ./configure --help | less to see all of the options. Sometimes you won't find anything specific to a particular set of files (like the audio packages). But, generally there are options that will allow for extra includes and extra libraries within the configure script. In this case, it's likely something like: ./configure --=/usr/local/gnome The -- should probably be replaced with --with-extra-libs & --with-extra-includes or something like that, anyway. -- Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: LPR still - made some progress...
On 11-Dec-2000 Dan Horth opined: > Hiya - a follow up on my LPR headaches... I have just installed a new > RH 6.2 based system as we're setting up a new server - and I have > managed to get this printing absolutely perfectly well as expected. > So - I'm 100% certain that the problem is to do with the > configuration of the old servers... > > Anyway - I copied the /etc/printcap file from the new server to the > old one, and the /var/spool/lpr/lp/filter too... and restarted lpd, > and tried printing again and still no joy. I don't get it - the > setups appear to be exactly the same on the two servers... but I'm > still not able to print on the old servers. > > Can someone enlighten me as to exactly what packages are required for > successful printing to a postscript printer via lpr - AFAIK I have > everything set up right - I'm using these: > > lpr-0.50-4 > printtool-3.44-1 > rhs-printfilters-1.63-1 Make sure you have ghostscript-5.50-1 or something similar. > I'd also love to get a definitive list of which files I need to be > editing to configure lpd properly... > > the only one I'm aware of so far in our setup is: > > /etc/printcap I once had problems with some of the settings in the file /var/spool/lpd/lp/postscript.cfg that would cause either errors on output or no output at all. Haven't seen that one for awhile, though. > hmm... hoping someone can send me some enlightening advice... where > should I be going from here to get lpr working again? Are you sure lpd is running? Do the logs show it, does 'ps -C lpd' list it? Sorry I don't have the message in front of me, nor a browser, and this mailer doesn't do URLs too well. -- If only closed minds came with closed mouths. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: where to run firewall script with dial up connection under d
On 10-Dec-2000 Bob Hartung opined: > Hi again, > I have my RH 6.2 machine reinstalled, all scripts restored > and all updates applied. I have what I think is a workable > firewall script. Now, what I cannot figure out is where can > I insert a line of code that will call my firewall script > everytime pppd opens up a new connection. > > I have looked in numerous books and man pages. I do not > see how I can call if from the connection chat script. I do > not yet understand enough of the relationship or when's of > the scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts to know if > there is one that will fire everytime the ppp0 interface is > again opened. > > Can someone clue me on on the script sequence or suggest > another script file that will be read each time the > connection ppp0 is initialized. Is there a particularly > good book available that will explain this sequence of > events so I can won't have to post such low level messages > to the list? /etc/ppp/ip-up is the logical place to put these things since it gets called when pppd is run. It says right in it, though, to use /etc/ppp/ip-up.local instead. ip-up calls ip-up.local on mine. Either way, that's where you wanna look. I don't know of a definitive book, though I would imagine there is one. I just mostly learned it from howtos, searches and places like this list. -- It's not a bug, it's tradition! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details
On 10-Dec-2000 hello opined:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to manage three downloads at the same
> time by running my netscape 4.75 three times on
> different workspaces.
> After I started the process I dad to leave for
> some hours. When I had look at about 2 hours all
> three processes had bee ceased. There was an error
> message:
>
> Maybe your server dropped the connection
> (horrible translation but it will do), try to
> reconnect later
>
> Okay, my question is if it is possible to do it
> the described way and if there are better ways to
> do it ( please leave the RH-Network which is a
> annoying alternative for me because of very slow
> download performances)
It's possible to do, but not a very useful thing on a dialup. If it's
manual dial, you lose the connection at bad times and have to start all
over.
A better method is a download manager. I use 'Webdownloader for X' or
whatever it's called ('nt' on the commandline) and set it to download one
file at a time, sometimes at noght when nobody is awake. This particular
version saves what it's already retrieved in a dot-file and can pick up
where it left off if you stop it or something else interrupts. There are
others as well and somebody I'm sure can shed some light on what those
are called. I settled on this one because it does what I need.
It appears you may have had the line drop and the dowloads terminated.
That could be solved with both a download manager and demand dial.
If you aren't using demand dial, you might look into setting that up. If
you pay by how long on the 'net you can make different configs and use
scripting to change them as needed. I've used in the past a set that
would change between demand dial and manual dial. That required some
extra config files for /etc/ppp and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts plus a
couple of scripts for copying and restarting networking.
That in conjunction with a download manager can be all you need to do
these types of things.
Another thing that's helped me is setting up squid to do caching. That
way if the download stops in the middle for some reason, the part that
was already retrieved is saved in a cache and I don't have to start all
over at the beginning.
I'm not a scripting genius (nor any other type) but I can try to help if
you want to try doing things this way.
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RE: To link some commands
On 08-Dec-2000 Huiyuan Ma opined: > > A simple question:How to link to some commands for > using them anywhere?For example,currently,to use the > command 'httpd'or something else in /usr/bin,I've got > to type the whole path to get the commands.Any way to > link them?Thank you. Add the directories to /etc/profile for the entire system, or ~/.bash_profile for each individual user. Both are clearly marked as to where the PATH statement is. Once done, log out and back in and it will be set. -- Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Was (Re: xfs problems) Now FIXED!!!!
On 09-Nov-2000 Michael Lewis opined: > Thanks to Thomas and Michele and Hal for all of your input. I learned > more > tonight about my system than in the last six months. I just started > cleaning out some old files and found some more core files in my user > directory and that did the trick. I think I will keep checking my home > directory and see if there's anything else I can find. You can use a file I used to use I found on freshmeat to automatically remove all core files regularly. It was called urmcore and ran out of crontab. Doing it this way gives you the ability to have and examine some core files to try and determine what causes them or why they happen. Not much use to most users. Great for programmers or someone wanting to report bugs or track missing libs. You can place the line ulimit -c 0 in ~/.bash_profile (individual user) or /etc/profile (all users) and keep them from being created at all. Great if you don't care what causes them but just don't want them in the first place. -- Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Printer..
On 23-Nov-2000 Ted Gervais opined: > > I have a HP Deskjet 895CXi printer and the following is what I am using > in the /etc/printcap file. Also, it is attached to the computer via a > USB > connection. I can't print anything. Zip! The printer doesn't even give > out a groan. And a grep search of lpd shows it is Waiting. Whatever > that > means. The prime suspect is USB. It's hit-and-miss right now, and then only in the 2.3/2.4-test kernels I believe (just got USB myself and haven't tried it yet with anything). I MAY be wrong with the last part, but not the first. As for lpd wating, that's what it does when it needs for the printer to respond. No response from the printer will make it continue to wait. -- I have seen the fun! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Chastising for ignorance? [was (no subject)[comments]]
On 23-Nov-2000 Eric Clover opined: > am i the only one that has figured out that when the ignorant use HTML > to send out a posting to the list that there is no footer placed on the > email? > i really hope not. > eric I never figured it out because I send it straight to bitbucket hell (and /dev/null is starting to get full). -- Irrationality is the square root of all evil. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsuscribe
On 23-Nov-2000 brian davison opined: > certainly looks like a footer. > BUT it does NOT say " to unsubscribe" ... (or: to manage your list > account) > that's probably a good idea for those of the list's users wanting out > and > not knowing computerville very well. > brian Well if I see that at the foot of every message, that means it can't possibly hold a clue as to what I might want? Especially since it contains "redhat-list" "Redhat-list mailing list" "listman.redhat.com" and "listinfo" all in the same 3 lines? -- Here we are in America. When do we draw unemployment? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Samba over PPP-> ********** WINNT
On 23-Nov-2000 Fred Edmister opined: > Well, I can't solve your problem, but I for one have my office > at > home, and have my children watching over my shoulder at times and would > VERY greatly appreciate not hearing/seeing vulgar language in my email > messages. Hope you have a safe and happy thanksgiving! You shouldn't oughta havta do this, but filtering out offensive words (like FREE or SALES or "LIMITED TIME" or E-BUSINESS for example) can reduce a great bit of headache down the line. The language you mention does slip in from time-to-time. The language I mention comes in every day (and some of it gets an equally offensive response from me). -- Every program is a part of some other program, and rarely fits. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Chastising for ignorance?
On 23-Nov-2000 Michael Burger opined: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:16:52 +0530, suman wrote: > >>I want to unsubscribe >>suman >> > > > Just for the record, folks, above is the entire message, quoted as it > arrived in my mailbox. > > Please note, for the record, folks, that there is no footer. > > While Suman should look at any of the messages that come through the > list, agreed, and while Suman should also have looked at the welcome > message that the list server sends out when one subscribes, the last > thing that should be done is to point to the message he sent, saying > "Look at the footer" while not noting that there was no footer. > > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list For the record, here is how YOUR email arrived to me, and his previous mailng also had the liness immediately above. I just went through this with someone a couple of days ago. It appears that not only procmail filtering is removing footers. This individual was also getting footers removed (I say removed because I have yet to see any mail come through a redhat mailing list without one coming in MY mail) within a mailer in OS2 as well as in pine using linux. Until that time I never knew that anyone was receiving mail without it. And, I assumed if they weren't able to interpret the footers, they didn't have the wherewithal to create any rules in procmail to remove them. I now know that having or not having a couple of braincells has nothing to do with anything. I have no idea what could/should be done about it. Yes, everybody gets confirmation messages and should keep them. Mine was lost in a hard drive crash a couple of years ago when I had no previous way to keep backups. Then the way the subscribe/unsubscribe actions were performed changed. I just subscribed under another email address, got the howto, then unsubscribed the new address so as to get the instructions back. Not everyone has that option. -- Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsuscribe
On 21-Nov-2000 Leonard den Ottolander opined: > Hi Uncle, > >> Not that I know anything about it, but curiosity and all that: what >> mailer do you use? > > Check the headers ;). Pegasus Mail for Windows. I still didn't make > the > switch (for my desktop that is). It's a pity the author doesn't want to > release the source code (it's free as in beer though), because this is > actually a very nice mailer. > The message I was referring to is the message > From: "hotmail" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > How does XFMail represent this message to you? Does it show you all > the HTML > crap and the footer as well? Or did you spool this message to /dev/null > as > well? Some html gets through in the message. Some gets added as an attachment. It's either one or the other, not a mixture. I haven't looked into why it does one sometimes and the other other times. Now I simply /dev/null anything with "html" in the header or in the beginning of the body. I also (by the way) /dev/null anything that has microsoft or outlook or outlookexpress or funny font names (like big5 or wondows-1252) plus a large number of addresses, non-addresses and keywords. Headers (which I have turned off by default) and footers get through and are in the displayed body. Xfmail isn't the best mailer in the world. But it's the one I'm used to. I kinda like balsa but it still falls short a little for my tastes. I've tried all I can name except evolution, which I'm trying to try right now (damn dependencies!!) and xfmail still comes the closest for my tastes. On 'Doze (which no longer exists in my household) I just went mostly with AOL-NS (formerly netscape), though I was rather fond of pegasus. -- Irrationality is the square root of all evil. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Sound installation from scratch
On 20-Nov-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > it has its own rpm, go to rpmfind.net and do a search, grab the latest > edition. > > cat vmlinuz > /dev/audio to hear god I personally enjoy System.map and its reminiscience of enjoyable times past. -- It's OK; I'm an intellectual, too. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsuscribe
On 21-Nov-2000 Leonard den Ottolander opined: > Hi Uncle Meat, > >> Yes, and one on my response to your response, and one on your response >> to >> my response to your response, etc. And, I might add, there will be one >> on >> this response as well. >> >> Maybe you're filtering them out? > > I didn't see a footer on the original post either(the one from Juan > Pablos). > It happens with M$ multipart MIME messages. The footer just doesn't > show up in > my mail reader. It does when I extract the message to file though (but > not > when I reply). Not that I know anything about it, but curiosity and all that: what mailer do you use? With xfmail, the html (sometimes) and the silly netscape address card show up as attachments, but footers always show in the body. Html sometimes gets scrambled into the body. That's why I /dev/null all of that. -- I have seen the fun! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsuscribe
On 20-Nov-2000 Mike Burger opined: > Odd...I didn't get a footer on teh preceding message. > > Was there one on my response? Yes, and one on my response to your response, and one on your response to my response to your response, etc. And, I might add, there will be one on this response as well. Maybe you're filtering them out? -- Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: unsuscribe
On 20-Nov-2000 Mike Burger opined: > Actually, in all fairness, there doesn't appear to be a footer at the > end > of the messages for the "redhat-list"...while there is on the > "guinness-list". Is the following _not_ a footer? If not, what is it's proper name? > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Whatever happened to all the fun in the world? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinkSys Network Card
On 20-Nov-2000 Mikkel L. Ellertson opined: > On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Ahbaid Gaffoor wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I have replace my network card with a LinkSys 10/100 PCI Card, Model >> NC100 Version 2.1 >> >> I'm running Redhat 7.0, but I cannot get the card to come up. It uses >> the tulip driver and works fine under NT and 98, >> >> Windows shows the card as using IRQ 11 and IOPort B000 >> > [SNIP] >> >> - >> here is my /etc/modules.conf file >> - >> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc >> alias usb-controller usb-uhci >> alias eth0 tulip >> options tulip options=3 debug=4 io=bx000 irq=11 >> alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 >> options sound dmabuf=1 >> alias midi opl3 >> options opl3 io=0x388 >> options cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9 >> >> >> here is the output when I try to do an "insmod tulip" >> >> Using /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net/tulip.o >> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, >> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters >> >> >> >> How do I get the card to come up? >> >> thanks, >> >> Ahbaid. >> >> > The first thing I would do is try commenting out the options line for > the > tulip driver. You almost never need to give the IRQ and I/O port for a > PCI card. The card may or may not use the same I/O and IRQ as it does > in > Windows. Letting the driver find the I/O and IRQ works fine in almost > all > cases. > > If this fails, try using the old_tulip driver instead of the tulip > driver. But I think the tulip driver is probably the correct one for > this > card. I an not up to date on what chip Linksys is using on what card, > so > it is possible that you will need an updated driver if they have > changed > things again. There are at least 3 tulip drivers, in addition to old_tulip. Linksys supplies one, one comes stock with RH distros and the other is available at some web page or other (I've never needed it and didn't take much interest in the discussions about it, sorry). I'd always tried the stock and it worked. The next step would be to go to the Linksys site and download the latest they have. The last resort would be to go to the linux networking newsgroup (comp.os.linux.networking) and ask about it. -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Need help re-compiling kernel
On 14-Nov-2000 Aaron Prohaska opined: > I am trying to recompile my kernel and keep getting this error when > running 'make bzdisk'. If anyone has a moment to look at the output of > the command I'll send you the txt file I created. Here are the list few > lines that look like the problem though. > > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.18pre11/arch/i386/boot' > as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s > make[1]: as86: Command not found > make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.18pre11/arch/i386/boot' > make: *** [bzdisk] Error 2 [root] which as86 /usr/bin/as86 [root] rpm -qf /usr/bin/as86 dev86-0.15.0-2 This is on RH6.2. -- Where am I? Why am I here? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: upgrade glibc w/o shutdown failing to umount /
On 13-Nov-2000 Dave Reed opined: >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:34:14 -0500 (EST) >> From: Statux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >> X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta4 >> Precedence: bulk >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> List-Id: General Red Hat discussion list >> Content-Length: 404 >> >> I just got done saying to someone else that it is normal and only >> happens >> right after the upgrade. It has to do with different versions of the >> library being present on the system: one in memory and the other from >> disk. That's the best I can tell :) > > I'm asking if there's a way to prevent that from happening. Yes, it > only happens one time, but I'd like if it didn't happen at all. This is untested but, might changing to single user mode and/or back solve it? -- There are 3 kinds of people: men, women and unix. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: gnorpm database lock - MODIFIED
On 13-Nov-2000 Bob Hartung opined: > Hi, > I am trying to uninstall rhs-print-filters and printtool > so I can try the cups printing system. Somehow I have a > problem with the rpm database and cannot lock the it. Is > there a way to fix the rpm database from the command line? > > I tried 'rpm --rebuilddb' and received the error 'cannot > get shared lock on database'. It sounds to me , with my > limited experience in linux, that there is a lock file > hanging around -- but where? Try logging in as root and doing the work. That sounds like the problem. -- Excuse my english. I went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (no subject)
On 11-Nov-2000 Gustav Schaffter opined: > Michael, Bret and anoyone else, > > I'm using the 'crappy' Netscape mail client. You know, the one that > some > people talk so very negatively about. > > Edit - Preferences - Advanced > > Let's see... > > Enable JavaScript => On (Could of course be turned off, if I wanted > to. > ;-) > > Enable JavaScript for mail and news => off > > OK > > Since this is (by some?) considered to be a 'crappy' email client, I > assume that all 'good' email clients with a GUI can do the same? I wouldn't call the mail client crappy. It just gets configured by users (and also by default) in a crappy manner. Now, I would consider an email client GOOD if one doesn't have to turn possible security problems off when they are turned on by default. -- Paranoia is simply an optimistic outlook on life. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Remote X Windows Connections..........?
On 10-Nov-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] opined: > Can I connect to my machine from a remote location and use the X > Windows > (kde) interface, instead of telnet? Say this might be from either > Windows > or MacOX 9/X. > > Sorry if this question has been tackled numerous times before, I don't > current have i-net access (other than e-mail) at my current place of > business and can't check the archives... Look up vnc (can't recall the URL but a search of google will find it surely). I've used it before with 'Doze and I'm getting ready to try it with a MAC. It has servers and clients for going in both directions and can do so simultaneously. -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: named
On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:08:21 -0600 (CST) Scott Skrogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was not so much that it was RTFM is was I looked at the man. I just > don't ask a question because I am lazy. I understand what named does but > I don't understand how the heck the -u got in there. I looked at the man > page again and of course if you have looked at it. It does not talk about > named in the startup. No named is not working. Again I am going to ask a > newbie question and that is what rpm let's me look to see what version I > am running because I did an rpm -q named and it says named is not > installed. I am not trying to be a dificult I just don't understand and > the more that I read the more confussed I get. This list has been VERY > helpful in the past with reading other people's problems and I have > learned a ton from those messages. Not intending to further an argument, nor take sides, nor in any way fan any flames. But, 'man named' clearly states that it is part of the BIND distribution. So, 'rpm -q named' won't get anything. As for what's running it and how, check out the /etc/rc.d/init.d script for it and as root type 'ntsysv' to turn in on or off. Now maybe we can get back to our regularly off-topic political discussion. -- Variables don't; constants aren't. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: CHMODE Question
On 07-Nov-2000 George Georgiev opined: > Hi, everybody, I need help with this little thing, > > The problem that i am trying to solve is how to find contexts of a > folder that > has 700 code. I mean it can be used only by the owner and there is no > way that > i can think of in which i can get into it. I would like to know if one > folder > is there in particular. I suspect it's there, but i'm not sure. If you're the administrator of the machine: man su will tell you what you need to know. -- Housework can kill you if done right. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RESPIN
On 07-Nov-2000 lee opined: >> >> Hmm...no KDE2 for RH7, eh? Too bad. Guess RH is too focused >> on pushing Gnome as the GUI of choice. Then again, KDE has >> always been a second-class GUI as far as RedHat is >> concerned. I'm not necessarily asking them to push it >> HARDER than Gnome, I just wish they'd push 'em Equally. I'm >> REALLY not trying to restart the GUI wars. I just happen to >> have gotten used to KDE and like it better. :-) >> John >> > > well for me anyway..( PII450-seattle/128ram/RIVa TNT16mb/13.6HD ) gnome > is > sluggish ( on startup only I mean and its frustrating ) on FM and > sometimes > GNORPM..most others apps seem to load as usual..heck sometimes FM > takes > like 15 or more seconds just to loadsimilar things with GNORPM > ( albeit > kpackage is similar i know if must read the rpm database ) and i'd love > to know > why as I like Gnome...anyone else ever had these issues with > Gnome..i'd > heard ( although it seems unlikely?) that Gnome doesn't work well with > newer > processorsi've always like the transparent console and the fact > I can > place windows with pixel efficiency it feels less quirky... I have an older processor. Gnome doesn't work well with it or the old one I had before as well. I'd sy (IMO) gnome doesn't work well. Period. -- Here we are in America. When do we draw unemployment? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: lockd: failed to monitor
On 06-Nov-2000 David Brewster opined: >> >> Maybe the options in your exports file aren't giving the proper >> permissions to the importing machine. >> >> I also had one that was set up properly and still didn't work. I ended >> up >> deteting the exports files, creating a new one with the same settings >> and >> reexporting it. It all worked fine after that. > > Hi > Thanks for replying - one quesiton - at the moment the options are > rw,no_root_squash > > Is this ok ? Those are the options I used before and they worked OK. Right now I only have a single export (to a MAC) and it simply has (rw) for the export. It appears to work fine as well. > The filesystme seems to be mounted adequately for every other purpose > as far as i can tell - eg I can edit stuff on it as normal. Only when I > use mutt do i get the failed to monitor on the console. Then it may be an issue with mutt, not with the export. As long as other programs and the commandline operate as they should for reading, writing and copying, the export itself is OK. -- Who are the Brain Police? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: lockd: failed to monitor
On 06-Nov-2000 David Brewster opined: > Hi > I've had a search on the net and it seems a few people get this problem > but so far I haven't found anything that can help me. > > When I start mutt, I get an error to the console saying > > lockd: failed to monitor 10.10.10.10 > > (the tens are my ip number, lets say). > > My home directory is nfs exported from another machine, onto the > machine > on which I run mutt. > > On the machine i run mutt on (redhat 6.0): > ># /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs status > > Configured NFS mountpoints: > /home/internal > Active NFS mountpoints: > /home/internal > > On the machine exporting the /home/internal (redhat 6.2): > ># /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs status > rpc.mountd (pid 470) is running... > nfsd (pid 486 485 484 483 482 481 480 479) is running... > rpc.rquotad (pid 461) is running... > ># /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfslock status > lockd (pid 345) is running... > rpc.statd (pid 355) is running... > > Anyone got any suggestions ? PLEASE HELP :-) > > Btw - the failure to lock seems to prevent outgoing copies of mail I > send > being saved to the appropriate file in my directory (doesnt get saved > at > all) so its an annoying problem as well. Maybe the options in your exports file aren't giving the proper permissions to the importing machine. I also had one that was set up properly and still didn't work. I ended up deteting the exports files, creating a new one with the same settings and reexporting it. It all worked fine after that. -- Excuse my english. I went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: tarbar installation'isms for a newbie
On 05-Nov-2000 Bob Hartung opined: > Okay, I can download gimp-1.1.29 to a directory named > /downloads/gimp. I can then tar -xvzf gimp-1.1.29.tar.gz > and it makes the directory /downloads/gimp/gimp-1.1.29 and > uncompresses all the files. I can 'configure' it, 'make > clean' and 'make install' and whalla the gimp works [and it > is much improved!]. > > My question: After installation are the files in the > '/downloads/gimp/gimp-1.1.29' now superfluous? Can I delete > this directory to recover the disk space without affecting > the installed program and its required files, libraries, > etc.?? MOST tarballs that end with a 'make install' step can be deleted. Some can't (webmin does this to me for some reason - it looks in the directory installed FROM for something that I haven't taken the time to track down; then again, I can't recall offhand if it has a 'make install' step or uses and install script). The easiest way to test it is to rename the directory created, run the program and see if it still functions properly. -- Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: [OT] Gore v Bush Website Servers
On 05-Nov-2000 kf opined: > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Uncle Meat wrote: > > = > = On 05-Nov-2000 Michael Ghens opined: > = > Well, I took the time to look at both websites. Bush runs: > = > > = > Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 > = > Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 02:11:52 GMT > = > Content-Type: text/html > = > Content-Length: 87 > = > > = > and the scripting is ASP. > = > > = > Now Gore is on > = > > = > VA Linux servers > = > Apache > = > and PHP. > = > > = > Makes you want to go HHhhm... > = > = Actually, makes me go "So?" The IRS is a known linux user, too. Can't > say > = I love them too much, not every time I look at a pay stub, anyway. > = > > One of the reasons I really appreciate Linux is that it does more with > less-- less of the system's resources and at less cost. That's > precisely > how a government should operate, not in the manner of Windows (a > bloated, > expensive resource hog). I'd say their system choices are emblematic > of > the kinds of government we're being offered. > > BTW, the IRS just collects what Congress tells them to. Blaming the > IRS > is an oversimplification, shooting the messenger for bringing the news. Using tactics not told to them to use, such as seizing property without warrant, breaking doors down and terrorizing taxpayers, making threats against taxpayers about doing bodily harm and destroying them financially, etc. Those are things for which the messenger should be "shot" for the message. And looking at a pay stub, as I mentioned above, just reminds me that they have done, and will do, such things to me if I try to keep too much of what I earned. I can say this with absolute certainty: I'm married to someone that has had such wonderful government behavior exhibited to her over a measley $1200, which it ended up she didn't even owe them. Just the kind of government I'm looking forward to having if that's what we're being offered! Ah, such bliss we'll be in when we all just learn to conform to what the utopians decide we should be doing! -- Who are the Brain Police? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: [OT] Gore v Bush Website Servers
On 05-Nov-2000 Michael Ghens opined: > Well, I took the time to look at both websites. Bush runs: > > Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0 > Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 02:11:52 GMT > Content-Type: text/html > Content-Length: 87 > > and the scripting is ASP. > > Now Gore is on > > VA Linux servers > Apache > and PHP. > > Makes you want to go HHhhm... Actually, makes me go "So?" The IRS is a known linux user, too. Can't say I love them too much, not every time I look at a pay stub, anyway. -- I have seen the fun! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Find IP for DSL
On 03-Nov-2000 Rob Hardowa opined: > Hey all, > > I'm on a DSL line and I need to set up a temporary one time FTP server > to > have a co-worker transfer to me a very large uncompressed wav audio > file. > My quesiton is: > > Is there a way to find out my IP address so he can connect? > > Our DSL issues dynamic IPs. I have tried a couple web based services > but > they always report erroneously...although they used to work, indicating > our server changed something. I also used to use speakfreely which > reported my ip to the other user, but for some reason isn't now (and > isn't > an efficient method anyhow). Is there a command line program, perl > script or reliable service I can use to detect my current IP so we > don't > have to burn this thing onto a CD and transfer it through the mail? /sbin/ifconfig or /bin/netstat -nr -- A man is as old as the woman he feels. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: rpm-3.0.5-7.5x weirdness
On 28-Oct-2000 guanchen KHOO opined: > I have RedHat-5.2 and upgraded rpm to rpm-3.0.5-7.5x which I think I > got > from rpm.org - cannot be sure though. Had a scary problem yesterday > when I > tried to --rebuild bison-1.27-3.src.rpm. The rebuild always fails, > complaining that it cannot find some files (I think the info files) in > the > build root. Sure enough when I look at /var/tmp/bison-root/, I could > only > see the usr/lib directory in there. The bin, man/man1, and info > directories were missing. I installed the src.rpm and looked at the > bison.spec file, but cannot see anything wrong. I then checked > /usr/bin/ > and found that the new bison had been installed! The rpm installed the > bin/, man/man1 and info/ into /usr/bin/, /usr/man/man1/, and /usr/info/ > instead of $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/ when it was making the package!!!??? > > Is RedHat-5.2 missing some upgrade package that would cause this? > Shouldn't rpm warn? The problematic line in the bison.spec file is :- > > make install prefix=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr datadir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/lib That may be something to do with the problem I had and never had the time to track down. I upgraded 6.2 to the version in the updates directory. It was rpm-3.0.5-something. I then had all sorts of problems with --rebuild and -ta where files weren't found and failures resulted. Before I could track it down I did a few ignorant things and messed up some important files. After reinstalling everything worked again. But, that happened most likely because it fell back to 3.0.4 and still hasn't been upgraded. -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: format of hosts.deny
On 27-Oct-2000 root opined: > Anyone know the format of entries in the hosts.deny file? Just like in the following example, and 'man hosts.deny' can provide more information: CUT === # # hosts.denyThis file describes the names of the hosts which are # *not* allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # # The portmap line is redundant, but it is left to remind you that # the new secure portmap uses hosts.deny and hosts.allow. In particular # you should know that NFS uses portmap! leafnode: ALL EXCEPT LOCAL ALL: 63.21.103. ALL: 211.40.176.49 ALL: 165.247.44.130 ALL: 210.92.35. ALL: 152.173.250.195 ALL: 204.42.253.18 ALL: 210.217.24. ALL: 209.186.148. ALL: 207.71.92.221 ALL: 211.111.88.4 ALL: 212.187.116.86 ALL: 24.28.117.155 ALL: 199.174.81.122 = CUT = -- There's no place like ~. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Redhat 7.0 and SCSI Devices
On 26-Oct-2000 Lance Spence opined: > I am posting this again in hopes that someone can help me get this > problem > resolved. I did a fresh install > of Redhat 7.0 and then re-compiled the kernel with SCSI and the AHA152x > as > a module. My SCSI Zip Drive and > Ricoh 6200s CD-Writer are yet to be recognized. I also have > "append="aha152x=0x340,11,7,1" in my lilo.conf file. Not sure what you have with the quotes the way they are showing. Here's the way it needs to look in the line in lilo.conf: append="aha152x=0x340,11,7,1" I'm guessing that's what you have based on the next thing in the mail. But, again, the quotes above don't reflect it directly and leave some doubt due to the way they are quoted. > It worked fine in Redhat 6.0 and 6.2 with the append in lilo and SCSI > compiled into the kernel with the AHA152x as a module. > > Now nothing and if I try compiling the AHA152x into the kernel as > opposed > to a module my system locks up during boot-up at > > Checking root filesystem... > > Again it worked fine in Redhat 6.0 and 6.2 and works fine in Windows > 2000. You can try NOT putting it in lilo.conf and typing it at the boot prompt: linux append="aha152x=0x340,11,7,1" If that works I can see no reason for it to fail with the line I placed higher up. That is, unless something is _REALLY_ odd about 7.0, which I don't have installed. -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: ver 7.0
On 24-Oct-2000 David Yates wrote: > I have been using RH since ver 4.0. I have also faithfully upgraded to the > next version of RH the first day I could get my hands on it. That is until > this 7.0 upgrade. I bought the cd, but I can't make myself feel good about > upgrading to ver 7.0. Between this redhat network thing, the "non-compliant > gcc", it just seems to be a .0 release worth skipping. Any thoughts? Agreed so far. I'm waiting to see what happens as far as fixes and such. Or the next version, whichever seems more agreeable. -- A man is as young as the woman he feels. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Autoresponders
On 24-Oct-2000 Thomas Ribbrock wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:00:17PM -0400, Warren Melnick wrote: >> The vacation package does this rather nicely. > > Out of interest - does the vacation package also take care not to send > autoreplies to mailing lists? That's the main reason why I use procmail > for that task. And, may I add, the annoying feature of autoresponding directly to people who send mail to mailing lists. I get dozens of these every month, not via the mailing lists, but directly after writing to a list. I usually make sure to thank them for being so very thoughtful. I usually then add them to my kill filters forever (along with Outlook-generated, HTML-content mail and weird font-type headers masquerading as plain text). -- How do you explain Wayne Newton's power over millions? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: dd = destroy data?
On 24-Oct-2000 Barry L. Kline wrote: > I have a number of PC's that are going off lease and will be sent back > to be turned into dog food. Before they leave I want to wipe the hard > drives. Although there's nothing on them that requires a > military-style wipe (e.g. destroy with a hammer), I would like to take > a pass or two over the drive. > > My first thought was to boot up with Tom's boot/root disk and do: > > dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda > > which would, in my warped view of the world, continue to copy random > data over the hard drive. Unfortunately, when I issue that command, > not much happens. I get some data from if but nothing appears to go > to of. > > So, what't the quick-and-dirty drive wiping technique used by those > who love Linux? I use a program called wipe (forgot where I got it - likely freshmeat). I usually just use the default settings. But, if memory serves me correctly it allows commandline parameters for the number of passes over a file. As for your method, /dev/hda is the whole drive. Linux commands likely would want partition names to write to. That could explain the failure, though I'm not inclined to try it just now to see. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: US Elections - enough is enough!
On 23-Oct-2000 Burke, Thomas G. wrote: > > > I'm a Persian Gulf Vet... > > I have great respect for what the flag (US) stands for. > > Because of that respect, I believe flag burning should be legal, as part of > what it stands for is free speech. By making this illegal, we desicrate > our Constition more than allowing the flag to be burned in protest. > > (I'm a Constitutionalist on most matters). > > Amen. Retired after 20, when the coutry was grossly misled into electing a charlatan. -- Excuse my english. I went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: sendmail-masquerading
On 22-Oct-2000 Hyung Kim spoke something to the effect: > I am having problems with sendmail. > > I used m4 to configure sendmail.cf to masquerade > emails using the SMPT address of my ISP. > > For several months I had no problems sending email. > Then several days ago, emails to certain addresses > were being rejected by the host servers. I did not > make any changes to my configuration files. > > When I send myself an email, the header, next to > 'received from' has the name of my local machine and > not the server I am trying to masquerade as. > > My first question is: if masquerade is working, > should my email header only list my local machine? No. > My second question is: why did sendmail stop working? Did you use linuxconf? I've had more sendmail.cf files destroyed by it than I can count. How long has it been up and running without shutting sendmail down and restarting or rebooting the machine? It shouldn't matter, but it might. Could you have been broken into and some changes to this as well as other files have been made? Are there any other things that mysteriously started working wrong or not working at all? You can try using m4 again to see if it fixes it. -- You will become rich and famous. Unless you don't. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What was Gore's Role in Inventing the Internet?
On 18-Oct-2000 Statux spoke something to the effect: > Gore never invented the internet. End of story. The networking concept > around the internet has been around since about the dawn of UNIX (which > was over 30 years ago). :) > > Gates didn't invent the first OS either... and DOS wasn't even his. It > was > purchased from someone for $50,000 or something like that. Okay, I see your point. But, he DID invent the illegal page fault, correct? > I walked back into this conversation so I don't know how much of this is > to be serious :) > > I just don't want too many people getting confused by this. Not me. Here's what I know to be the case, from conventional wisdom: 1. Gore did NOT invent the internet. He invented the computer chip, which enabled sombody-or-other to invent the computer when he/they saw we all needed one. 2. Gates did NOT invent the first OS. He invented the computer with the concept invented by Algore (also referred to as he/they above). 3. The Chinese military stole the secret to the computer created by Gate$, with help of technology invented by Algore, and used it to create the abacus. They then used this superior device to control their internal population and threaten their neighbors. 4. The Japanese invented sushi, for which Algore later claimed credit, and Gate$ stole the idea, changed it to only work with his own releases, and gave away with his products for a time to enslave as many people as possible. He then started charging $89.95 for an upgrade and $200-$300 for full versions. M$-$ushi is now on 98% of all countertops in the world and Gate$ predicts that Linux doesn't matter in this arena and will not be able to compete on a level footing with the other M$ products, Including M$-$almon and M$-Tuna$alad. 5. Bush couldn't pronounce the name of the Japanese Prime Minister. So he praised Gate$f for his innovation and blamed the Clinton/Algore Administration for letting America's sushi appetite become dangerously dependent on sources outside of the United States. Any questions? -- I can't decide which wrong turn to make first. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What was Gore's Role in Inventing the Internet?
On 18-Oct-2000 Vidiot spoke something to the effect: >> Can someone please tell me what Gore's role was in >>inventing the internet. (Please include all the Gory details >>as well as AlGore-ithms). (But please don't beat around >>the Bush or if there are many links get to Cheny). > > Nothing, other than he was alive when Arpanet was designed, and even that > is under debate (that Gore was alive :-) Or, for that matter, IS alive even today. -- Weird enough for government work. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linux in the developing world (fwd)
On 18-Oct-2000 Luke C Gavel spoke something to the effect: > > > -- Generated Signature -- > If there are epigrams, there must be > meta-epigrams. > -- End Sig -- > > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 17:22:17 -0300 (ADT) > >>Linux snubbed by development activists >> >>Washington DC insiders and bureaucrats have put together two recent The above is sufficent information for explaining the rest. Government is in the business of spending money, particularly bureaucrats. They deem themselves failures unless they do so. They can sometimes fool themselves, and can mostly fool others, into believing otherwise. Been one, so I can speak that which I know to be truth. >>conferences dedicated to bringing computer and Internet technologies >>to less developed communities and nations. As major software >>companies were invited to participate in the conferences, many Linux >>fans were surprised to discover that no Linux providers were invited >>to present information about the inexpensive, open-source >>alternative to costly software. According to one TechWeb writer, >>open-source activists and Linux companies plan to be at the second >>of the two conferences this week in Seattle, "but they'll be outside >>in the rain carrying signs, handing out free Linux software, and >>waving the mascot Penguin at attendees." >> >>Linux is based on the concept of "free for everyone." This conference >>begs the question "Who is to pay for this so called development and >>why are the free alternatives not included!? " >> >> > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- You'll never be the man your mother was! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Simple Shell Scripting Question
On 15-Oct-2000 Kevin Diffily spoke something to the effect: > I have been unable to create a simple program that will kill a > running ppp connection. I have tried > cat /var/run/ppp0|kill > echo /var/run/ppp0|kill > kill etc. > > Any help will be appreciated. Here's one that will work if using demand dial. The separate pppd and ppp-watch entry are needed because they won't automatically get killed with the link. Also, killing them alone will still leave ppp0 running. ---CUT HERE --- #!/bin/bash killall pppd ppp-watch ifconfig ppp0 down -- CUT HERE --- The ppp-watch part is used on RH6.2. I don't know for 6.1 or 7.0 and I don't recollect it being used on 5.2 and before. I originally had problems when using demand dial when I'd kill the ppp session and not ppp-watch. It kept bringing the link back up. Execution by root is necessary (obviously) and don't forget the permissions. If not using demand dial: ---CUT HERE--- #!/bin/bash ifconfig ppp0 down --CUT HERE--- will suffice. But doing it manually will do it also. -- A man is as old as the woman he feels. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: odd memory access problem
On 14-Oct-2000 Jonathan Wilson spoke something to the effect: > I could be very wrong, but I thought the proper thing was mem="128M". > > Did you check the lilo docs? > > Other then that, I"d like to say that there's probably nothing worse then > bad RAM. It very well may be bad - consider trying a new stick. Get PNY, > Kensington or Corsair. And do /not/ get ram with tin teeth - only gold. > Many makers are starting to use tin for cost efficiency, but it corrodes > in about 2 years, and often corrodes the slot in the mobo along with it. He had it righter (append="mem=128M") but, I didn't notice what may be a problem when he wrote the original. In 1. It appears as: append = "mem=128M" which has 2 spaces in it that may not work: one on either side of the first equals (=) sign. This is usually the RIGHT(tm) way with unix. But this may be an exception. You might try again, Rob, without the spaces and see what happens. I can't say for sure with this but, I used to use such an entry and it worked without the extra spacing. I know the lilo.conf manpage shows it that way. But, I know what worked for me and the manpages are sometimes (shudder) in error. Another possibility is that the video memory is taken from the ram (had one once that did that) and it's leaving a hole in memory. 'Doze seems able to handle it (after all, this was likely one of M$'s ways of getting things "better" for everyone by making sure nobody else could use it). But, linux stops looking after it finds an empty memory position. If the bios can't let you remap it, the video section may have a jumper for memory mapping which can push its theft of resources to the top of the heap. Otherwise, the memory it's seeing is all you'll ever get. If it's neither of these, I'm outta ideas. > At 06:50 PM 10/13/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >>Hopefully someone here has seen something like the problem >>I'm having. >> >>In a moment of weakness my employer bought a cheapo 450MHz PIII >>system ( A Fry's special for those that might know what that means). >>It ran NT until this week when I wiped it and installed Linux. >> >>Unfortunately Linux can see only 64 of the 128Megs of memory. I've >>tried: >> >>1) variations of append = "mem=128M" in lilo.conf to no effect. >>2) linux mem=128M at the LILO prompt. kernel panic on boot. >>3) switch the DIMM from slot to slot. also no different. >>4) try a known to be good DIMM from another system with 1-3 above. >> no difference. >>5) twiddling BIOS settings. also no effect. >> >>I can't find any marking on the motherboard to identify the maker. >>( I wouldn't admit to making it either) It has a SiS chipset of >>some sort, but nothing else identifiable. >> >>Any suggestions? -- You will become rich and famous. Unless you don't. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: MS self-extracting .exe files
On 08-Oct-2000 fred smith spoke something to the effect: > Say, can any of you point me to a tool for Linux that'll unpack the > contents of those self-extracting .EXE files that MS uses to distribute > stuff? Try 'unzip ' as that usually works. -- Imitation is the sincerest form of television. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: memory problems
On 06-Oct-2000 Ray Curtis spoke something to the effect: >> "k" == kabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > k> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > k> Hash: SHA1 > > k> I am having memory problems I added the statement append=mem=128M" to > my > k> lilo.conf and it won't recognise it. > k> Here is my lilo.conf file: > k> > k> image=/boot/linux-2.2.12 > k> label=linux > k> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img > k> read-only > k> root=/dev/hda2 > k> append=" mem=128M" > > k> other=/dev/hda1 > k> label=dos > > Read the manpage on lilo.conf, you will note that the 'append' > statement belongs in the global section of lilo.conf. > > Should be: > > append="mem=128M" > > image=/boot/linux-2.2.12 > label=linux > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img > read-only > root=/dev/hda2 It will work the way it is in the original post.It would just need to be added into every section with a kernel (image) entry or it won't show up. Been there, done that. -- It's OK. I'm an intellectual, too. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: HELP: can't umount filesystem on shutdown!
On Thu, 05 Oct 2000, you opined: >On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:49:06PM -0500, Uncle Meat wrote: >> > Turning off quotas [ok] >> > Unmounting file systems umount2: Device or resource busy >> > umount: /usr/hda1: device is busy >> > umount2: Device or resource busy >> > umount: /usr: device is busy >> > >> > No process references; use -v for the complete list >> > No automatic removal. Please use umount /usr/hda1 >> > INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel >> >> I have no idea what this umount2 command is or what's generating it. But, >> that is likely what is causing it. Any idea where it came from? If you have >> a pure rpm system: >> >> locate umount2 >> >> will get a path, and: >> >> rpm -qf //umount2 >> >> will get the name of the rpm that owns it. >I did 'locate umount2' and it didn't find anything. I also used find >from the root like this 'find -iname "umount2"' and it found nothing. >Then I ran grep on all the files in rc[0-6].d and init.d looking for >umount2. Still no references to umount2. I can't figure out where >it's coming from. Curiouser and curiouser. I can't fathom this happening without something calling a file or function named 'umount2' (since that's what the log claims is happening). >> The only other reason that I can think of for this happening is if /usr/lib >> or /usr/hda1/lib was in active use when the shutdown tried to umount it >> (like sitting in /mnt/cdrom then issuing the command 'umount /mnt/cdrom' - >> will give a device busy error). Since /usr/lib is used by many things, this >> could be the case. > >>From reading the umount man page, I figured that umount was opening >libraries in /usr/lib and causing the error itself. The manpage says >this is possible. What I don't understand is why that wasn't a >problem before--seems like that would be a problem regardless of >where the /usr/lib directory is mounted. I.e., it has to be >unmounted regardless of where it is. Possibly because of the order in which the umounts take place. Obviously, some have to remain (/) to execute commands until the last one is down. For some commands, /usr/lib may be essential and /usr/hda1 may be trying to shut it down too early. Just a guess. I haven't delved into it that much. >> You might try (besides locating the umount2 command and shutting it off if >> possible) logging in as single user, move the lib directory back where it >> was and move something else with a symlink, like /usr/share. That one >> shouldn't give you such a problem (unless umount2 is the problem) and it's >> generally huge, which would free up a lot of space. > >I was afraid this is what I'd have to do. It just seems like there'd >have to be some way around it--I mean, on a large system do you >always have to have /usr/lib on the same disk and in the same >partition as / or /usr? Never tried mounting /usr/lib anyplace else so I can't answer that. But, it's entirely possible that the system functions may well _assume_ mounting /usr will also get /usr/lib, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, etc. In that case, moving it and symlinking wouldn't work too well. Personally, I don't think I'd ever try doing it to any of those named above, plus a few others I can bring to mind (/boot, /lib, /sbin, /etc) because those (the latter ones) guarantee failure. -- Excuse my english. I went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: HELP: can't umount filesystem on shutdown!
On 05-Oct-2000 Ben Logan spoke something to the effect: > I really need some help here...my system won't shut down properly any > more. > > I have two drives in my RedHat 6.2 box. One of them had linux on it and > the > other windoze. I was running out of space in linux, so I wiped windows > off > the other disk (/dev/hda1). Then I created an ext2 filesystem on it and > mounted it in /usr/hda1. > Then I moved /usr/lib to /usr/hda1/lib and made a symlink so that the > libraries could still be found in /usr/lib. > > Everything went fine, until I tried to shut my system down. Then I got > the > following error messages (the first message isn't an error, I included it > for context): > > Turning off quotas [ok] > Unmounting file systems umount2: Device or resource busy > umount: /usr/hda1: device is busy > umount2: Device or resource busy > umount: /usr: device is busy > > No process references; use -v for the complete list > No automatic removal. Please use umount /usr/hda1 > INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel I have no idea what this umount2 command is or what's generating it. But, that is likely what is causing it. Any idea where it came from? If you have a pure rpm system: locate umount2 will get a path, and: rpm -qf //umount2 will get the name of the rpm that owns it. I have 6.2, all updates (almost) and tons of compiled tarballs. I have no such command, so it likely isn't native, though I don't have everything installed and I can't say it isn't part of one of the packages I didn't install. It's certainly one I haven't seen before. > I have another system with which I did the same thing, except that I > mounted > the new partition (/dev/hdc1 in this case instead of /dev/hda1) directly > as > /usr/lib--no symlinks that way. It has the same problem now when I try > to > shut it down. If the umont2 command is also shown as above, it's likely the culprit. > Here's my /etc/fstab file: > /dev/hdb7 / ext2defaults1 > 1 > /dev/hdb1 /boot ext2defaults1 > 2 > /dev/hdb6 /home ext2defaults1 > 2 > /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 > 0 > /dev/hdb5 /usrext2defaults1 > 2 > /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy autonoauto,user 0 > 0 > /dev/hda1 /usr/hda1 ext2defaults1 > 2 > none/proc procdefaults0 > 0 > none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 > 0 > /dev/hdb8 swapswapdefaults0 > 0 > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have, and have had, many symlinks such as these. I've only encountered problems, not with symlinks, but when I had the sub-mount being called to _mount_ before the top-level (i.e. mounting /usr/lib before /usr). I can't recall _ever_ having a problem umounting a subdirectory before a top-level, which is clearly what the above shows happening. The only other reason that I can think of for this happening is if /usr/lib or /usr/hda1/lib was in active use when the shutdown tried to umount it (like sitting in /mnt/cdrom then issuing the command 'umount /mnt/cdrom' - will give a device busy error). Since /usr/lib is used by many things, this could be the case. You might try (besides locating the umount2 command and shutting it off if possible) logging in as single user, move the lib directory back where it was and move something else with a symlink, like /usr/share. That one shouldn't give you such a problem (unless umount2 is the problem) and it's generally huge, which would free up a lot of space. -- I have seen the fun! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: qt land gtk lib question
On 05-Oct-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke something to the effect: > [1] Will software using qt run on GNOME ? > [2] Will software using gtk run on KDE ? KDE apps, and anything else compiled with QT run fine with anything else. The QT apps require QT to be installed. KDE apps require QT and KDE to be installed. GTK apps run fine with anything. They require GTK+ to be installed. GNOME apps run fine with anything. They require all sorts of things to be installed, a list too long to post here. -- It's OK. I'm an intellectual, too. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: IMAP Read Only Mailbox Help
On 04-Oct-2000 Kevin Diffily spoke something to the effect: > I have run into a serious problem with IMAP on my server. I can read > and write to mailboxes but when I try to delete messages I receive a > "read only mailbox error" from my email client. > > Relevant info: > -Mailboxes are located in ~/Mail. Owned by the the user. Permissions > 600 or 700. > I have tried setting them to 777 to test for an obvious permission > problem. > - Problem surfaced after moving /usr and /var directories to another > drive and then making a symbolic link for these directories in the > root filesystem. > - IMAP-4.7 off of the RH 6.2 CD. > > The documentation that comes with this is pretty sparse. Anyone have > any ideas as to what is causing this and possible remedies? Likely a permission problem on /var/spool/mail/$USER and everything above it (/var, /var/spool, etc). It isn't too wise setting all of the directories as RW to regular users. You can try setting permissions for /var/spool/mail/$USER to RW and make sure the user owns it (shared with group mail on mine). It still may give the same problem because of the directories above it. I had similar problems with IMAP before, with /var on a partition all its own. I never solved it (never really tried) except by changing to POP3 for local delivery as well. -- Windows: for when security, reliability and money are no object. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: RH support scanning?
On 03-Oct-2000 meijin spoke something to the effect: > I have an older scanner that uses a "generic" ISA SCSI card and was > wondering if this can be used under Red Hat? Is TWAIN supported or is > there > anything that will allo me to use it? I have d Adaptec ISA cards (aha-1505, 1510, 1515) and a Mustek Scanmaker III. They work fine. Use sane and xsane. Also, there are addin modules for gimp. Scanning is one. -- Girls are better looking in snowstorms. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: diff Redhat Madrake
On 03-Oct-2000 John Aldrich spoke something to the effect: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: >> The installer looks alot like Redhat's...infact i believe it is >> Redhat's. >> > Look again. The GUI installer is a different one... I'm pretty sure > of that... I guarantee it's different. I've installed both 7.0 and 7.1 mandrake. So I know it to be the case for the GUI. -- Excuse my english. i went to US public school. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: huge netscape cache, cant remove it within netscape
On 29-Sep-2000 Jack Byers spoke something to the effect: > I seem to have built up to a huge netscape cache > [byers@byers .netscape]$ cd cache > [byers@byers cache]$ du -s > 733740 . > that looks like 3/4 of a 1gig to me > > when i gointo edit preferences advanced cache > and then try to > clear disk cache > and > clear memory cache > > it seems to have zero effect, > du -s on .netscape/cache still just as large > > Is there something else i should be doing within netscape to > try to fix this? this is netscape 4.08, rhat5.2 > > alternatively is it safe just togo into each .netscape/cache > dir and rm all of the files ? As a matter of fact: rm -R .netscape/cache/* is faster and won't hurt a thing (done it numerous times). It will just recreate all of the directories when first run again. Just make sure the '-i' option (default with RH bash installs) is turned off or you'll be answering yes an ungodly number of times. -- The computer revolution is over. The computers won. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ldconfig error upon installing rpms
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, you opined: >On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:47:40PM -0500, Uncle Meat wrote: > >> Since /usr/lib is on a partition by itself, it can be mounted as /usr/lib >> and not need a symlink. You just need a directory in /usr named lib and an >> fstab entry defining it, much like the way I do a few. A couple of examples: > >Thanks. That would work for this computer because /usr/lib is the only >thing on that partition. However, I have another computer with a >similar setup, and I copied more than one directory tree to it. For >example, /usr/lib and /home. That setup prevents me from mounting it >as you were talking about above (I think, correct me if I'm wrong). >What should I do in that situation? If the top level directory is /usr/lib (for example) and others are installed within or under lib you can symlink those to the proper directory. For instance, say you have a large partition. You set the top level of it up as /usr/lib. Inside (also at the top of the partition) you have added var with a symlink. You can still mount the partition as /usr/lib and symlink var to /var. Another. Say you have a large partition (again) and it is /home/httpd and within that same partition is a directory called symlink. In the symlink directory is var, user1 and usr/local (in this case simply local). You can mount the top as /home/httpd. Then these commands: ln -s /home/httpd/symlink/var / ln -s /home/httpd/user1 /home ln -s /home/httpd/local /usr Those all would work. Note that this is NOT the best way to do things. But sometimes we have to fix problems to correct things that come up after things are set up. I personally use symlinks to elements of the /usr/src/redhat directory to place i386, i586 and noarch where I can get to them easier (/). I also keep /var/spool/news and /etc/rc.d/init.d at the top for a few reasons. These are all directories I access regularly. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: RH 70 and $9.95
On 27-Sep-2000 Alan Lehman spoke something to the effect: > I beg to differ on RH not making money on the software. After being > annoyed at how quickly 6.2 followed 6.1, I waited until about 3 weeks > ago to buy 6.2. I have 6.1 pro for which I paid roughly $80. I wanted to > continue to using SWS, but now to do that it was going to cost me $179. > I finally bit the bullet. Now three weeks later, I'm having to cough up > another $179 to stay current with 7.0? > > a. Why isn't there an significant upgrade program? > b. Why is the price increasing so rapidly? cheapbytes=$1.99+s&h, linuxmall about the same. Besides, it's almost a given that about every 6 months another release happens (at least, ever since 4.2, which is when I started using it). The delay until just before the release of a new version should/could have been anticipated. -- Technology is dominated by those who manage what they don't understand. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
