Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
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On 06:39 22 Oct 2003, sam kupar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| when u are installing redhat9,u have to select swap size;which is
| recommended to be double the RAM.have u selected 256MB or more of swap
| size.actually i am also having the same configuration as urs and the
| things are at a good speed(with background tasks and downloading etc).

With anything modern you want RAM+swap == the maximum you're ever likely
to run at once (including this that are "up" but idle).

The "twice RAM" is simply a rule of thumb. In an ideal world you would
have more RAM than you need and never swap (well, "never page", but
let's not be picky).  In practice you'll generally have more process
memory in use than RAM available and so the overflow is stored in swap
until needed. You want enough swap to never run out of overflow area,
that's all.

At any one time you have a "working set" - the pages of programs that are
in regular use. If that's bigger than RAM your machine will spend some
time paging (exchanging the less wanted data in memory for immediately
wanted data in swap or from disc files not currently cached) instead
of actually running your programs (because the program will be stalled
waiting for its data to come back from the swap area). If your working
set needs a lot of swap that "some time" will become "a lot of time"
or even "almost all the time", which is called "thrashing".

You can always add more swap later as a "swap file" - see "man swapon".

More swap will not affect your performance at all, neither faster nor
slower. It's simply room to have more programs "up" at a time.

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Re: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-22 Thread Wayne Betts
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/03 04:00PM >>>
> >
> > I've been having some trouble opening and closing ports. Basically, I
> > want to close of all ports except 22 for ssh and 3 other ports to do
> > some testing with openmosix. No matter what I do though, the ports
> > that
> > I want open stay closed and the ports that I want closed are open.
> > (Mostly)
> >
> > Port   State   Service
> > 22/tcp openssh
> > 25/tcp opensmtp
> > 111/tcpopensunrpc
> > 139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
> > 505/tcpopenmailbox-lm
> > 631/tcpopenipp
> > 885/tcpopenunknown
> > 4660/tcp   openunknown
> > 6000/tcp   openX11
> > 9158/tcp   openunknown
> > 1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
> > 32768/tcp  openunknown
> > 32769/tcp  openunknown
> > 32770/tcp  opensometimes-rpc3
> >
> > Looks like I don't even have a firewall activated.
> > redhat-config-securitylevel is set to medium. If I change it to hight
> > the same ports are open. Trusted device is set to my network card
> > (eth0)
> > nothing is checked except ssh and dhcp. Like I said above, I want a
> > couple other ports for open openmosix but, I have not "other ports"
> > section using redhat-config-securitylevel.
> >
> > Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot. Also,
> > I
> > have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ...
> > etc. Still nothing.

I may be way off base, but in case it helps, here is what pops into my head
upon reading this thread:

How did you generate that list of open ports?  It occurs to me that you
might actually have iptables working just fine...
A service or program can be listening on a port, even while a firewall is
blocking access to that port.  It is like having an earplug in your ear...
The ear is still listening, but the sounds are prevented from reaching it.
There may be a default firewall rule that will allow all loopback traffic
through, while blocking remote hosts.  So unless you are generating the list
of open ports using a remote scan, you might not know what's really open or
closed to the outside world.

A complementary approach to using a firewall is to disable unneeded
services.  So for instance, you could do something like "service sendmail
stop" and "chkconfig --level 2345 sendmail off" to close the smtp port.
"lsof -i" and "netstat -lp" (and others) might help determine what service
daemon or application is using each port; with that you can usually disable
or reconfigure them to be less open.

As someone else said, setting an interface as "trusted" effectively turns
off the firewall for that interface, not usually the desired result unless
you have a multi-homed system where one interface is on a local trusted
network and the other is to the big bad world.  You probably want eth0 to be
untrusted, else you wouldn't bother creating firewall rules for it...

Or maybe I missed some piece(s) of the puzzle... :-)

Hope that helps.


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Re: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-22 Thread Jeff Lasman
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 20:42, Jesse Millan wrote:

> Firewall is still doing absolutely nothing, even when I untrust eth0.

and he wrote earlier:

> > Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot.
> > Also, I
> > have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp
> > ... etc. Still nothing.

Do you also have ipchains enabled?  Both cannot be running at once.  If 
you've got ipchains enabled and if it started first it's possible that 
ipchains is trying to be the firewall, not iptables.

I don't have any more details as I only run RHL9 on my desktop which is 
behind a firewall, and doesn't have it's own.  My RHL7.3 boxes use 
ipchains.

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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-22 Thread sam kupar
hi cameron
pl do check on this point
when u are installing redhat9,u have to select swap size;which is recommended to be 
double the RAM.have u selected 256MB or more of swap size.actually i am also having 
the same configuration as urs and the things are at a good speed(with background tasks 
and downloading etc).
thanks
samkupar


--- Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 13:04 21 Oct 2003, Hawkeye Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| the installation went without a hitch:  i just held down 'next' and
| went with the defaults.  when i finally booted, however, X took forever
| to load, and once it was up, *everything* ran *very* slowly (10-15 secs
| to load mozilla).  a quick look at the system monitor shows that my
| ram is almost gone (111 out of 128) and the cpu is frequently pinned.
| this is with *nothing* open other than startup processes.

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| is something wrong, or do i need a faster system to run X? in it's current state, 
it's unusable.

Your machine _should_ be fine. Mozilla does take a long time to load
initially.  Try getting FireBird or Galeon or Konqueror - any of these
may be smaller. Once Mozilla (or whichever browser) is up, subsequent
new pages should come up close to instantly.

CPU usage: Pop up a terminal and run "top". That will show you what
processes are using most of the CPU at any given time. Then let us know -
we can be more helpful then.

Having all your RAM in use is normal and desirable. The more that's in
RAM, the less that must be fetched from disc, which is a speed win.
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Re: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-21 Thread Jesse Millan

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:58, Dominic RIVERA wrote:
> Well, you have a couple of problems:
> 
> You don't want to trust eth0, by trustung eth0 ( your only network card
> ) you are basically disabling the firewall from that interface.
> 
> Dominic Rivera
> (503) 947-7308
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> 

Firewall is still doing absolutely nothing, even when I untrust eth0.

> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/03 04:00PM >>>
> 
> I've been having some trouble opening and closing ports. Basically, I
> want to close of all ports except 22 for ssh and 3 other ports to do
> some testing with openmosix. No matter what I do though, the ports
> that
> I want open stay closed and the ports that I want closed are open.
> (Mostly)
> 
> Port   State   Service
> 22/tcp openssh
> 25/tcp opensmtp
> 111/tcpopensunrpc
> 139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
> 505/tcpopenmailbox-lm
> 631/tcpopenipp
> 885/tcpopenunknown
> 4660/tcp   openunknown
> 6000/tcp   openX11
> 9158/tcp   openunknown
> 1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
> 32768/tcp  openunknown
> 32769/tcp  openunknown
> 32770/tcp  opensometimes-rpc3
> 
> Looks like I don't even have a firewall activated.
> redhat-config-securitylevel is set to medium. If I change it to hight
> the same ports are open. Trusted device is set to my network card
> (eth0)
> nothing is checked except ssh and dhcp. Like I said above, I want a
> couple other ports for open openmosix but, I have not "other ports"
> section using redhat-config-securitylevel.
> 
> Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot. Also,
> I
> have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ...
> etc. Still nothing.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13:04 21 Oct 2003, Hawkeye Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| the installation went without a hitch:  i just held down 'next' and
| went with the defaults.  when i finally booted, however, X took forever
| to load, and once it was up, *everything* ran *very* slowly (10-15 secs
| to load mozilla).  a quick look at the system monitor shows that my
| ram is almost gone (111 out of 128) and the cpu is frequently pinned.
| this is with *nothing* open other than startup processes.

[Please press enter every 70 chars or so. Thanks.]

| is something wrong, or do i need a faster system to run X? in it's current state, 
it's unusable.

Your machine _should_ be fine. Mozilla does take a long time to load
initially.  Try getting FireBird or Galeon or Konqueror - any of these
may be smaller. Once Mozilla (or whichever browser) is up, subsequent
new pages should come up close to instantly.

CPU usage: Pop up a terminal and run "top". That will show you what
processes are using most of the CPU at any given time. Then let us know -
we can be more helpful then.

Having all your RAM in use is normal and desirable. The more that's in
RAM, the less that must be fetched from disc, which is a speed win.
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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 17:26 21 Oct 2003, Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:04:47PM -0700, Hawkeye Parker wrote:
| > i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram.
| 
| For starters, you are below the recommended configuration.  The absolute
| minimum is 128MB, with 192MB recommended for a graphics workstation.
| 
| http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/
| 
| Your CPU should be enough, but add some memory and you'll be much
| happier.  An extra 256MB of PC133 (which is what I'm guessing your
| system will need) is about $45-50.

Damn. I guess I have to go and remove RedHat 9 from my 233MHz laptop
with 96MB of RAM. A pity - it _appeared_ to work just fine.

Of course, I'm running FVWM instead of KDE or Gnome...
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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread Konrad Kosmowski
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:04:47 -0700, "Hawkeye Parker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram. 
> i've previously run various linux flavors from the commandline, but
> i'd like to make the switch to X, primarily so that i can toss my
> windows box out the _window_ once and for all.

> the installation went without a hitch:  i just held down 'next' and
> went with the defaults.  when i finally booted, however, X took
> forever to load, and once it was up, *everything* ran *very* slowly
> (10-15 secs to load mozilla).  a quick look at the system monitor
> shows that my ram is almost gone (111 out of 128) and the cpu is
> frequently pinned.  this is with *nothing* open other than startup
> processes.

> is something wrong, or do i need a faster system to run X? in it's
> current state, it's unusable.

Things you can do:

1. Check if your system is properly configured, despite instalation
without a hitch it could have misconfigured something. Check if your
disk drives are running in DMA mode (man hdparm). Uncomment these lines
in /etc/sysconfig/harddisks file:

USE_DMA=1
LOOKAHEAD=1
EIDE_32BIT=3

This should speed your disks a little.

2. Disable unwanted system services - if your system is plain
desktop/workstation/network client you should not need most of them.

3. Have you installed accelerated drivers for your graphics card?

4. Try running one of light-weight window managers f.e. FluxBox, FVWM,
IceWM, WindowMaker (my favourite), AfterStep or whatever (there are 
plenty of them) - simply KDE or GNOME *are* heavy, a bit bloated
(concerning my own neds) and sluggish.

5. Instead of Mozilla (which is also sluggish) try running
MozillaFirebird (which is slightly faster) or Opera (which is a speed
deamon).

6. You also can just load Mozilla on startup of yours X session and
keep it open in memory to prevent long load times. :-)

7. Get more RAM.

But I think the issue is something wrong with your configuration,
Currently I am typing from Pentium2 266Mhz box with 96 megs RAM, slow
notebook harddisk and it is just fine for me.

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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread mwafkowski
It also wouldn't hurt to have a halfway decent video card...you didn't
specify what yours is.

Regards,
Mike Wafkowski

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Subject: Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow


> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:04:47PM -0700, Hawkeye Parker wrote:
> > i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram.
>
> For starters, you are below the recommended configuration.  The absolute
> minimum is 128MB, with 192MB recommended for a graphics workstation.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/
>
> Your CPU should be enough, but add some memory and you'll be much
> happier.  An extra 256MB of PC133 (which is what I'm guessing your
> system will need) is about $45-50.
>
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Re: newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:04:47PM -0700, Hawkeye Parker wrote:
> i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram.

For starters, you are below the recommended configuration.  The absolute
minimum is 128MB, with 192MB recommended for a graphics workstation.

http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/technical/

Your CPU should be enough, but add some memory and you'll be much
happier.  An extra 256MB of PC133 (which is what I'm guessing your
system will need) is about $45-50.

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newbie: redhat 9.0 very slow

2003-10-21 Thread Hawkeye Parker
hi,
 
i've recently installed redhat 9.0 on an athalon 650 with 128MB ram.  
i've previously run various linux flavors from the commandline, but i'd like to 
make the switch to X, primarily so that i can toss my windows box out the 
_window_ once and for all.
 
the installation went without a hitch:  i just held down 'next' and 
went with the defaults.  when i finally booted, however, X took forever to 
load, and once it was up, *everything* ran *very* slowly (10-15 secs to load 
mozilla).  a quick look at the system monitor shows that my ram is almost 
gone (111 out of 128) and the cpu is frequently pinned.  this is with 
*nothing* open other than startup processes.
 
is something wrong, or do i need a faster system to run X? in it's current 
state, it's unusable.
 
thanks,
hawkeye

Re: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-21 Thread Alan Peery
Wade Chandler wrote:

What messages did you have after your X closed and you
where back to the main terminal?  This will point you to the error.
 

I just mentioned this in another post: ~/.xsession-errors may have 
useful errors in it.

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Re: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-21 Thread Dominic RIVERA
Well, you have a couple of problems:

You don't want to trust eth0, by trustung eth0 ( your only network card
) you are basically disabling the firewall from that interface.

Dominic Rivera
(503) 947-7308
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/03 04:00PM >>>

I've been having some trouble opening and closing ports. Basically, I
want to close of all ports except 22 for ssh and 3 other ports to do
some testing with openmosix. No matter what I do though, the ports
that
I want open stay closed and the ports that I want closed are open.
(Mostly)

Port   State   Service
22/tcp openssh
25/tcp opensmtp
111/tcpopensunrpc
139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
505/tcpopenmailbox-lm
631/tcpopenipp
885/tcpopenunknown
4660/tcp   openunknown
6000/tcp   openX11
9158/tcp   openunknown
1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
32768/tcp  openunknown
32769/tcp  openunknown
32770/tcp  opensometimes-rpc3

Looks like I don't even have a firewall activated.
redhat-config-securitylevel is set to medium. If I change it to hight
the same ports are open. Trusted device is set to my network card
(eth0)
nothing is checked except ssh and dhcp. Like I said above, I want a
couple other ports for open openmosix but, I have not "other ports"
section using redhat-config-securitylevel.

Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot. Also,
I
have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ...
etc. Still nothing.

Thanks in advance.



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RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-21 Thread Wade Chandler
Well you said yours is happening occassionally?  Mine was occurring all
the time.  I had a problem where when I had switched desktops that my
Fonts directory somehow became corrupt.  So, I had another RH9 box which
I copied the directory from to fix the issue.  Before ever starting X
you can try to start xfs and check the output to see what type of errors
it is getting.  What messages did you have after your X closed and you
where back to the main terminal?  This will point you to the error.
Give me a post and I'll try to help you out.

Wade

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Subject: RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


Thanks.

I get the xfs error, i solved with runlevel 3, but want to know the
source of the error ? Any idea.

Thanks.

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Objet : RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


Also, one of the times you get the computer to start up.  You can go to
/etc/inittab and edit this file.  Change this line id:5:initdefault: to
id:3:initdefault:  This will make your system boot to run level 3 (5 is
Xwindows).  Then you will have to type startx to launch X.  Now when you
have the problem you won't have to reboot, and you'll be able to see
what error message the machine is getting.  You may not be able to
ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE, but if you let the Xserver die, you'll have output
on your terminal and you'll be able to track down your issue.  This is
what I ended up having to do.  Mine was so bad I had to use my rescue
disk to get in and change my files.  Hope that helps.

Wade

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Maybe your disk is acting up and something is happening to the Xfont
server xfs?  I had a whacky issue with xfs.  I also think that xfs slows
X down on startup...(a lot).  Has anyone set up X to use a set of paths
instead of a unix socket for the X Fonts?  This is something I wouldn't
mind setting my machines up to do.  It would be a performance enhancer.
Can't imagine why running a Socket Server for fonts would be very useful
(aka seperated from the X server?).  Anyone else have any comments or
ideas on the matter?

Wade

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With RedHat 9.0 i get often a problem with Xwindow, after days of
starting with runlevel 5 without any trooble, after some days I get
suddenly ascreen goes black and trying to start xwindow... and loops
like that i must than restart the PC with power down and power on.

Have some one faced a similair problem? what is the problem ?



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RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-21 Thread Mohamed Kerbachi
Thanks.

I get the xfs error, i solved with runlevel 3, but want to know the source of the 
error ?
Any idea.

Thanks.

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De : Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : lundi 20 octobre 2003 20:38
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


Also, one of the times you get the computer to start up.  You can go to
/etc/inittab and edit this file.  Change this line id:5:initdefault: to
id:3:initdefault:  This will make your system boot to run level 3 (5 is
Xwindows).  Then you will have to type startx to launch X.  Now when you
have the problem you won't have to reboot, and you'll be able to see
what error message the machine is getting.  You may not be able to
ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE, but if you let the Xserver die, you'll have output
on your terminal and you'll be able to track down your issue.  This is
what I ended up having to do.  Mine was so bad I had to use my rescue
disk to get in and change my files.  Hope that helps.

Wade

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


Maybe your disk is acting up and something is happening to the Xfont
server xfs?  I had a whacky issue with xfs.  I also think that xfs slows
X down on startup...(a lot).  Has anyone set up X to use a set of paths
instead of a unix socket for the X Fonts?  This is something I wouldn't
mind setting my machines up to do.  It would be a performance enhancer.
Can't imagine why running a Socket Server for fonts would be very useful
(aka seperated from the X server?).  Anyone else have any comments or
ideas on the matter?

Wade

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:24 AM
To: RedHat mailling list (E-mail)
Subject: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


With RedHat 9.0 i get often a problem with Xwindow, after days of
starting with runlevel 5 without any trooble, after some days I get
suddenly ascreen goes black and trying to start xwindow... and loops
like that i must than restart the PC with power down and power on.

Have some one faced a similair problem? what is the problem ?



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RE: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-20 Thread Mike Koponick
Jesse,

Don't forget the default action for IPTABLES. You must DROP packets and
accept the connections you wish. I believe the command is:
Iptables -A INPUT DROP
Iptables -A OUTPUT DROP
Iptables -A forward DROP

Don't forget to add the "ACCEPT" lines first, otherwise you will lock
yourself out.

Mike



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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0


I've been having some trouble opening and closing ports. Basically, I
want to close of all ports except 22 for ssh and 3 other ports to do
some testing with openmosix. No matter what I do though, the ports that
I want open stay closed and the ports that I want closed are open.
(Mostly)

Port   State   Service
22/tcp openssh
25/tcp opensmtp
111/tcpopensunrpc
139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
505/tcpopenmailbox-lm
631/tcpopenipp
885/tcpopenunknown
4660/tcp   openunknown
6000/tcp   openX11
9158/tcp   openunknown
1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
32768/tcp  openunknown
32769/tcp  openunknown
32770/tcp  opensometimes-rpc3

Looks like I don't even have a firewall activated.
redhat-config-securitylevel is set to medium. If I change it to hight
the same ports are open. Trusted device is set to my network card (eth0)
nothing is checked except ssh and dhcp. Like I said above, I want a
couple other ports for open openmosix but, I have not "other ports"
section using redhat-config-securitylevel.

Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot. Also, I
have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ...
etc. Still nothing.

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Firewall Configuration in Redhat 9.0

2003-10-20 Thread Jesse Millan

I've been having some trouble opening and closing ports. Basically, I
want to close of all ports except 22 for ssh and 3 other ports to do
some testing with openmosix. No matter what I do though, the ports that
I want open stay closed and the ports that I want closed are open.
(Mostly)

Port   State   Service
22/tcp openssh
25/tcp opensmtp
111/tcpopensunrpc
139/tcpopennetbios-ssn
505/tcpopenmailbox-lm
631/tcpopenipp
885/tcpopenunknown
4660/tcp   openunknown
6000/tcp   openX11
9158/tcp   openunknown
1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
32768/tcp  openunknown
32769/tcp  openunknown
32770/tcp  opensometimes-rpc3

Looks like I don't even have a firewall activated.
redhat-config-securitylevel is set to medium. If I change it to hight
the same ports are open. Trusted device is set to my network card (eth0)
nothing is checked except ssh and dhcp. Like I said above, I want a
couple other ports for open openmosix but, I have not "other ports"
section using redhat-config-securitylevel.

Other notes, I have iptables service enabled. It starts at boot. Also, I
have tried to use iptables directly i.e iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ...
etc. Still nothing.

Thanks in advance.



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RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-20 Thread Wade Chandler
Also, one of the times you get the computer to start up.  You can go to
/etc/inittab and edit this file.  Change this line id:5:initdefault: to
id:3:initdefault:  This will make your system boot to run level 3 (5 is
Xwindows).  Then you will have to type startx to launch X.  Now when you
have the problem you won't have to reboot, and you'll be able to see
what error message the machine is getting.  You may not be able to
ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE, but if you let the Xserver die, you'll have output
on your terminal and you'll be able to track down your issue.  This is
what I ended up having to do.  Mine was so bad I had to use my rescue
disk to get in and change my files.  Hope that helps.

Wade

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Wade Chandler
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


Maybe your disk is acting up and something is happening to the Xfont
server xfs?  I had a whacky issue with xfs.  I also think that xfs slows
X down on startup...(a lot).  Has anyone set up X to use a set of paths
instead of a unix socket for the X Fonts?  This is something I wouldn't
mind setting my machines up to do.  It would be a performance enhancer.
Can't imagine why running a Socket Server for fonts would be very useful
(aka seperated from the X server?).  Anyone else have any comments or
ideas on the matter?

Wade

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mohamed Kerbachi
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:24 AM
To: RedHat mailling list (E-mail)
Subject: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


With RedHat 9.0 i get often a problem with Xwindow, after days of
starting with runlevel 5 without any trooble, after some days I get
suddenly ascreen goes black and trying to start xwindow... and loops
like that i must than restart the PC with power down and power on.

Have some one faced a similair problem? what is the problem ?



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RE: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-20 Thread Wade Chandler
Maybe your disk is acting up and something is happening to the Xfont
server xfs?  I had a whacky issue with xfs.  I also think that xfs slows
X down on startup...(a lot).  Has anyone set up X to use a set of paths
instead of a unix socket for the X Fonts?  This is something I wouldn't
mind setting my machines up to do.  It would be a performance enhancer.
Can't imagine why running a Socket Server for fonts would be very useful
(aka seperated from the X server?).  Anyone else have any comments or
ideas on the matter?

Wade

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On Behalf Of Mohamed Kerbachi
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:24 AM
To: RedHat mailling list (E-mail)
Subject: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.


With RedHat 9.0 i get often a problem with Xwindow, after days of
starting with runlevel 5 without any trooble, after some days I get
suddenly ascreen goes black and trying to start xwindow... and loops
like that i must than restart the PC with power down and power on.

Have some one faced a similair problem? what is the problem ?



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Re: RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-20 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
My guess is bad hardware.

Jon



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RedHat 9.0 and Xwindows issue.

2003-10-20 Thread Mohamed Kerbachi
With RedHat 9.0 i get often a problem with Xwindow, after days of starting with 
runlevel 5 without any trooble, after some days I get suddenly ascreen goes black and 
trying to start xwindow... and loops like that i must than restart the PC with power 
down and power on.

Have some one faced a similair problem? what is the problem ?



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>   Information Security Specialist
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>   Fix : +213 70855213
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How to install Serial ATA drives to redhat 9.0?

2003-10-17 Thread Brad Ching
Hello,today i update server to new and users an Intel P4 motherboard D865GBF.This 
(Bboard includes built-in serial-ata(SATA) connectors for this new type of hard 
(Bdrive.Then i install redhat 9.0 and find it run very slow.
(BSo i think it have any error for driver.Anyone can did this?
(BPlease tell me how i can do?
(BThanks for any help.
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Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:10:09PM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> 
> > Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
> > h97Dj1I9027083: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
> > delay=00:23:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> > pri=120223, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
> > stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
> 
> Which seems to show that you are no longer accepting local connections.

[...]

>Oct  7 09:08:59 cscmail sendmail[812]: rejecting
>connections on daemon MTA: load average: 14

IANAE, but it looks like he's jumped past sendmail's load average
setting, possibly due to a runaway process somewhere.

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Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Edward Dekkers
Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:

I am using the SMTP service from my ISP. Mail server
is running.
This is what I got in the /var/log/maillog..



Okay, things that look interesting to me are:


Sep21, it worked...it didn't work on 10/06 and 10/07

Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24046]:
h8LDj1eK024046: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=1106, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24044]:
h8LDj1JX024044: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=30322, relay=[127.0.0.1]
[127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h8LDj1eK024046
Message accepted for delivery)


Which shows that your machine accepted a connection to itself to send email,
and


Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dj1I9027083: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:23:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120223, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]


Which seems to show that you are no longer accepting local connections.

This could either be because the daemon is no longer accepting local
connections, or possibly your firewall settings have changed disallowing
local connections.
You can check your firewall settings via:

ipchains -L

and you can check to ensure that your sendmail is listening for traffic via:

netstat -tap | grep smtp

Show us the output of those two commands.  If they both look good, then it
would have to be a sendmail configuration change, which I wouldn't be able
to help with (I use postfix).
Ben

Just to add to that - it probably has nothing to do with your problems, 
but it will maybe screw you around later - fix the hosts.allow, you're 
missing a ':' somewhere.

Regards,
Ed.




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Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
> I am using the SMTP service from my ISP. Mail server
> is running.
>
> This is what I got in the /var/log/maillog..
>

Okay, things that look interesting to me are:

> Sep21, it worked...it didn't work on 10/06 and 10/07
> >>
> Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24046]:
> h8LDj1eK024046: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> size=1106, class=0, nrcpts=1,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
> [127.0.0.1]
> Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24044]:
> h8LDj1JX024044: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
> (500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=relay, pri=30322, relay=[127.0.0.1]
> [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h8LDj1eK024046
> Message accepted for delivery)

Which shows that your machine accepted a connection to itself to send email,
and



> Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
> h97Dj1I9027083: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
> delay=00:23:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=120223, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
> stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]

Which seems to show that you are no longer accepting local connections.

This could either be because the daemon is no longer accepting local
connections, or possibly your firewall settings have changed disallowing
local connections.

You can check your firewall settings via:

ipchains -L

and you can check to ensure that your sendmail is listening for traffic via:

netstat -tap | grep smtp

Show us the output of those two commands.  If they both look good, then it
would have to be a sendmail configuration change, which I wouldn't be able
to help with (I use postfix).

Ben


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Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Dali Islam
I am using the SMTP service from my ISP. Mail server
is running. 

This is what I got in the /var/log/maillog..

Sep21, it worked...it didn't work on 10/06 and 10/07
>>
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24046]:
h8LDj1eK024046: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=1106, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24044]:
h8LDj1JX024044: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=30322, relay=[127.0.0.1]
[127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h8LDj1eK024046
Message accepted for delivery)
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24054]:
h8LDj15Q024054: from=dislam, size=947, class=0,
nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24056]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 6: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24056]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 7: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24056]:
h8LDj1eK024056: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=1110, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24054]:
h8LDj15Q024054: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=dislam (500/500), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30324,
relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
(h8LDj1eK024056 Message accepted for delivery)
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24059]:
h8LDj2p6024059: from=dislam, size=321, class=0,
nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 6: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 7: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]:
h8LDj2eK024061: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=621, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24059]:
h8LDj2p6024059: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=30223, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent (h8LDj2eK024061 Message accepted for
delivery)
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dj1I9027083: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:23:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120223, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn01b027112: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:19:44, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120224, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DpT7G027164: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root
(0/0), delay=00:17:15, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120293, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnHEm027146: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=dislam (500/500), delay=00:19:27,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120318,
relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DZ0aC026974: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:33:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120326, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnHE3027132: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:28, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120326, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DZ12j026981: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:33:44, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120331, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnH3o027139: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:28, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120331, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dj1TU027080: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:23:44, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120333, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn0eK027109: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120337, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn0PB027122: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120337, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:59 cscmail sendmail[812]: rejecting
connections on daemon MTA: load average: 14
Oct  7 09:09

Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Dali Islam
This is what I got in the /var/log/maillog..

Sep21, it worked...it didn't work on 10/06 and 10/07
>>
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24046]:
h8LDj1eK024046: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=1106, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24044]:
h8LDj1JX024044: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=30322, relay=[127.0.0.1]
[127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (h8LDj1eK024046
Message accepted for delivery)
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24054]:
h8LDj15Q024054: from=dislam, size=947, class=0,
nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24056]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 6: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:01 cscmail sendmail[24056]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 7: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24056]:
h8LDj1eK024056: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=1110, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24054]:
h8LDj15Q024054: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=dislam (500/500), delay=00:00:01,
xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30324,
relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
(h8LDj1eK024056 Message accepted for delivery)
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24059]:
h8LDj2p6024059: from=dislam, size=321, class=0,
nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 6: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]: warning:
/etc/hosts.allow, line 7: missing ":" separator
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24061]:
h8LDj2eK024061: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
size=621, class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1]
Sep 21 08:45:02 cscmail sendmail[24059]:
h8LDj2p6024059: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=30223, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent (h8LDj2eK024061 Message accepted for
delivery)
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dj1I9027083: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:23:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120223, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn01b027112: to=dislam, ctladdr=dislam (500/500),
delay=00:19:44, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120224, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DpT7G027164: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root
(0/0), delay=00:17:15, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
pri=120293, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:44 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnHEm027146: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
ctladdr=dislam (500/500), delay=00:19:27,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=120318,
relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DZ0aC026974: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:33:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120326, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnHE3027132: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:28, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120326, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DZ12j026981: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:33:44, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120331, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97DnH3o027139: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:28, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120331, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dj1TU027080: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:23:44, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120333, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn0eK027109: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120337, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:45 cscmail sm-msp-queue[27251]:
h97Dn0PB027122: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=dislam
(500/500), delay=00:19:45, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=relay, pri=120337, relay=[127.0.0.1],
dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by
[127.0.0.1]
Oct  7 09:08:59 cscmail sendmail[812]: rejecting
connections on daemon MTA: load average: 14
Oct  7 09:09:44 cscmail last message repeated 3 times
Oct  7 09:10:59 cscmail l

Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
> I have crontab setup to send e-mail in the monring
> using mutt command. Sincae yesterday it's not sending
> any e-mail. It doesn't log any error message in the
> /var/log/messages. I tried to send e-mail manually and
> that didn't work either.
> 
> What can go wrong?

Is there anything suspicious in your /var/log/maillog?

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Re: Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 10:04 am, Dali Islam wrote:
> I have crontab setup to send e-mail in the monring
> using mutt command. Sincae yesterday it's not sending
> any e-mail. It doesn't log any error message in the
> /var/log/messages. I tried to send e-mail manually and
> that didn't work either.

when you said "it didn't work", you mean you didn't get the email?

What MTA do you use? sendmail? do you use your own SMTP or your ISP?

Is your mail server running?

what does /var/log/maillog say?

RDB

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Couldn't send e-mail from redhat 9.0

2003-10-07 Thread Dali Islam
I have crontab setup to send e-mail in the monring
using mutt command. Sincae yesterday it's not sending
any e-mail. It doesn't log any error message in the
/var/log/messages. I tried to send e-mail manually and
that didn't work either.

What can go wrong?

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Re: Redhat 9.0 X problem

2003-10-01 Thread Kent Borg
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 09:17:16AM -0500, Nick Marsh wrote:
> What Intel chipset do you have, what BIOS revision is your Dell? I
> had problems with Dell and newer Intel chipsets in the
> past. Upgrading the BIOS fixed it.
> 
> Try to flash your BIOS to the latest revision from
> http://support.dell.com and see if anaconda runs.
> 
> Also, this thread has some good info (BIOS settings, etc):
> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_linux&message.id=2816

I might be having a similar problem with a Shuttle SK41G, Redhat 9
can't do X windows, but an old Redhat 7.3 could.  Do I need to dig up
a BIOS update for it?


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Re: Redhat 9.0 X problem

2003-09-30 Thread Nick Marsh
What Intel chipset do you have, what BIOS revision is your Dell? I had problems with 
Dell and newer Intel chipsets in the past. Upgrading the BIOS fixed it.

Try to flash your BIOS to the latest revision from http://support.dell.com and see if 
anaconda runs.

Also, this thread has some good info (BIOS settings, etc): 
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_linux&message.id=2816


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Redhat 9.0 X problem

2003-09-30 Thread Susan Champigny
   It appears that my problem may be a driver issue.  I have just 
installed Redhat 9.0
but had to install it w/o the graphical interface (anaconda).  I did a 
test install.

   The dell has a NVIDIA, Quadro FX 500, has anyone dealt w/ this?

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Re: REDHAT 9.0 PROMISE FASTRAK 100 TX2

2003-09-17 Thread Samuel Flory
Michael Mansour wrote:
Placa base intel con bios actualizada
Promise fastrak 100 tx2 con bios actualizada.
Red hat 9.0 i drivers de promise ultima version.

La instalación del red hat tambien la hace
correctamente solo hay una

pequeña duda, cuando entro en el discdruid veo 3
discos los dos que he

pinchado en la contoladora raid y otro que me sale
con el comentario promis

raid que es de la misma capacidad que los otros,
supongo que sera el mirror

pero mi pregunta es, ¿no tendría que ver uno solo?.
Linux kernel does not support FastTrak mirror.

If you want to use it for mirror, you have 2
choices:
1) disable mirror in the fasttrak bios; then use
linux software mirroring.
Basically you'll use the fasttrak as an non-raid ata
cotroller.
2) use binary drivers promise provides here

http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=88&category=All&os=100

This will allow you to use the mirror you set up in
the fasttrak bios.


Why don't these companies release sources to their
drivers to be included in the kernel?
I don't see this "binary driver" implementation very
flexible and self-sustaining, puts more work on the
supplier side to get this working for each
distribution and each kernel release, on top of the
inflexibility it can provide to the customer.
  These cards do raid in the driver.  Thus they would need to open 
source their raid engine.  In many cases the vendor has licensed their 
raid engine from some where else.  This is why the cheap cards have 
binary only drivers, and the expensive  card have open source drivers. 
The expensive cards are doing raid on the card so all they are giving 
away is how you talk to their card.

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Re: REDHAT 9.0 PROMISE FASTRAK 100 TX2

2003-09-16 Thread Michael Mansour
> >Placa base intel con bios actualizada
> >Promise fastrak 100 tx2 con bios actualizada.
> >Red hat 9.0 i drivers de promise ultima version.
> 
> >La instalación del red hat tambien la hace
> correctamente solo hay una
> >pequeña duda, cuando entro en el discdruid veo 3
> discos los dos que he
> >pinchado en la contoladora raid y otro que me sale
> con el comentario promis
> >raid que es de la misma capacidad que los otros,
> supongo que sera el mirror
> >pero mi pregunta es, ¿no tendría que ver uno solo?.
> 
> Linux kernel does not support FastTrak mirror.
> 
> If you want to use it for mirror, you have 2
> choices:
> 
> 1) disable mirror in the fasttrak bios; then use
> linux software mirroring.
> Basically you'll use the fasttrak as an non-raid ata
> cotroller.
> 
> 2) use binary drivers promise provides here
>
http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=88&category=All&os=100
> This will allow you to use the mirror you set up in
> the fasttrak bios.

Why don't these companies release sources to their
drivers to be included in the kernel?

I don't see this "binary driver" implementation very
flexible and self-sustaining, puts more work on the
supplier side to get this working for each
distribution and each kernel release, on top of the
inflexibility it can provide to the customer.

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Gnome 2.4 rpms for RedHat 9.0

2003-09-16 Thread bfd
Where can I find Gnome 2.4 rpms for RedHat 9.0? (I don't feel like 
trying to compile this myself).

BFD

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Re: REDHAT 9.0 PROMISE FASTRAK 100 TX2

2003-09-16 Thread Giulio Orsero
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 14:00:47 +0200, "Carles Roca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Placa base intel con bios actualizada
>Promise fastrak 100 tx2 con bios actualizada.
>Red hat 9.0 i drivers de promise ultima version.

>La instalación del red hat tambien la hace correctamente solo hay una
>pequeña duda, cuando entro en el discdruid veo 3 discos los dos que he
>pinchado en la contoladora raid y otro que me sale con el comentario promis
>raid que es de la misma capacidad que los otros, supongo que sera el mirror
>pero mi pregunta es, ¿no tendría que ver uno solo?.

Linux kernel does not support FastTrak mirror.

If you want to use it for mirror, you have 2 choices:

1) disable mirror in the fasttrak bios; then use linux software mirroring.
Basically you'll use the fasttrak as an non-raid ata cotroller.

2) use binary drivers promise provides here
http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=88&category=All&os=100
This will allow you to use the mirror you set up in the fasttrak bios.

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REDHAT 9.0 PROMISE FASTRAK 100 TX2

2003-09-16 Thread Carles Roca








Muy buenas, mi consulta es la siguiente: Quiero instalar un servidor RED
HAT 9.0 con un sistema mirror hardware, el problema es que no hay manera de que
funcione me sale un mensaje que pone “GURB ERROR HARD DISK”. El escenario es el
siguiente:

 

 

Placa base intel con bios actualizada

Promise fastrak 100 tx2 con bios actualizada.

Red hat 9.0 i drivers de promise
ultima version.

 

Lo primero que he hecho es montar el mirror con la controladora promise
en principio yo creo que esta correcto me los detecta bien y la placa base ve
los discos que estan pinchados en la controladora raid lo cual supongo que es
correcto.

 

La instalación del red hat tambien la hace correctamente solo hay una
pequeña duda, cuando entro en el discdruid veo 3 discos los dos que he pinchado
en la contoladora raid y otro que me sale con el comentario promis raid que es
de la misma capacidad que los otros, supongo que sera el mirror pero mi
pregunta es, ¿no tendría que ver uno solo?.

 

Bueno si alguien sabe algo y me quiere echar un cable estare agradecido,
gracias

 

 

Un saludo, Carlos Roca

Inducontrol.

 

 








Re: URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!

2003-08-21 Thread Thierry ITTY
make your PC reboot (do it with Ctrl-Alt-Del)
when grub's menu displays, move the hilighted line on your current config
(this is necessary only if you have more then one bootable kernel)
press e (for edit)
move the hilighted line on the kernel parameters (usually containing things
like root=LABEL=/)
press e again
then add the number 1 at the end of the line (leave a blank before) to tell
the system to boot in single mode
press enter to end editing
press b to boot 
the system will start with only a very few services activated : your
wrapper script should not start and the boot will end with a root shell
modify your script so that it starts in the background
type exit (to continue booting) or reboot (to start a new boot sequence)

if this doesn't work, you might try to connect from another computer with
telnet or ssh, even if the keyboard/mouse/display of your computer remain
locked due to the boot sequence not complete, it's likely that network
services have already been started and let you login from a remote system

hth


A 11:14 21/08/2003 +0100, vous avez écrit :
>Hi,
>
>I tried to install a service using a wrapper script to run a java
>application in the background. It would appear that it doesn't run in the
>background so therefore when I boot linux now. It stops at this service.
>
>How can I rectify this? I've got GRUB bootloader and RH 9.0 installed.
>
>Thanks!
>Stuart
>
>
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RE: URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!

2003-08-21 Thread Nick White
Boot into single user mode, as described in
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-re
scuemode-booting-single.html

Run /usr/sbin/ntsysv and uncheck the service that is failing.

hope this helps,
nw

-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!


Hi,

I tried to install a service using a wrapper script to run a java
application in the background. It would appear that it doesn't run in
the
background so therefore when I boot linux now. It stops at this service.

How can I rectify this? I've got GRUB bootloader and RH 9.0 installed.

Thanks!
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URGENT! My RedHat 9.0 server will not boot anymore!

2003-08-21 Thread Stuart Stephen
Hi,

I tried to install a service using a wrapper script to run a java
application in the background. It would appear that it doesn't run in the
background so therefore when I boot linux now. It stops at this service.

How can I rectify this? I've got GRUB bootloader and RH 9.0 installed.

Thanks!
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Re: vi on RedHat 9.0 - autoindent disabled?

2003-07-30 Thread James Gibbon

>  
> Do you really preffer to type your tabs? Every line? Why..?  :)

I hate tabs in text files as well .. I type my own spaces.  Just 
makes me feel in control.  More often than not, the 
auto-indenter doesn't behave they way I'd want anyway.  I find 
it absolutely maddening!  That and the wacky colours in my 
source code, and highlighting search text before I've finished
typing it .. 

Absolutely loathsome behaviour!  But thankfully, not compulsory
so big smiles all round - if you like it, you can have it, if
not, switch it off and forget about it :)





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Re: vi on RedHat 9.0 - autoindent disabled?

2003-07-30 Thread José Toneh
James Gibbon wrote:
 
>Make sure you use /usr/bin/vim and not /bin/vi - the latter >is a minimal version which doesn't autoindent by default (or >possibly at all - dunno, as I detest autoindenting!  Hence I >always use /bin/vi)
 
>dino:/home/jg 23$ ls -l /usr/bin/vim /bin/vi>-rwxr-xr-x    1 root root   456108 Feb 12 12:44 /bin/vi>-rwxr-xr-x    1 root root  1893740 Feb 12 12:44 /usr/bin/vim>dino:/home/jg 24$ >I think at one time you'd get /usr/bin/vim automatically by typing>vi, by the magic of symlinks or an alias, maybe now in RH9 it>defaults to /bin/vi.>James
 
Well the alias was still there, so I was getting vim.. anyway I got tired of trying to figure it out, so I removed the rpm packages for vi and installed the ones from RH 8.0.. works fine now..
 
Do you really preffer to type your tabs? Every line? Why..?  :)
 
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Re: vi on RedHat 9.0 - autoindent disabled?

2003-07-30 Thread James Gibbon

José Toneh wrote:

> I've upgraded to RedHat 9.0 and now it seems
> like vi doesn't indent anymore, which is weird.. I've
> tried ":set ai", ":set ai sw=4", the tabstop and
> shiftwidth are set in my .vimrc file; anybody else got
> that problem?

Make sure you use /usr/bin/vim and not /bin/vi - the latter 
is a minimal version which doesn't autoindent by default (or 
possibly at all - dunno, as I detest autoindenting!  Hence I 
always use /bin/vi)

dino:/home/jg 23$ ls -l /usr/bin/vim /bin/vi
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   456108 Feb 12 12:44 /bin/vi
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1893740 Feb 12 12:44 /usr/bin/vim
dino:/home/jg 24$ 

I think at one time you'd get /usr/bin/vim automatically by typing
vi, by the magic of symlinks or an alias, maybe now in RH9 it
defaults to /bin/vi.

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vi on RedHat 9.0 - autoindent disabled?

2003-07-30 Thread José Toneh

I've upgraded to RedHat 9.0 and now it seems
like vi doesn't indent anymore, which is weird.. I've
tried ":set ai", ":set ai sw=4", the tabstop and
shiftwidth are set in my .vimrc file; anybody else got
that problem?

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Re: running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-20 Thread Audioslave - 7M3 - Live
hank wrote:
I am unable to use xmms.  it isn't screen reader compatible.
I am using a x windows screen reader with the gnome desktop.
XMMS can bve launched through the file browsers also. I have launched it 
through nautilus and through the norton commander like program called 
Midnight commander.

The last time I ran winamp through wine, it was one of the 7.x 
distributions.

If you want wine emulation through Red Hat 9, I believe wine is still 
busted. (related to standardization with RH 9 to POSIX standards)

I'm not familiar with screen reader programs. I am curious to how well 
the programs work. I have a few friends that are still on windows. They 
use JAWS or programs of that nature.

It might be better to put in a feature request for xmms to be screen 
reader compatible. You might put the request into Red Hat's feature 
request for program improvements. The xmms developers might aid in 
getting it to work also.

There is a limitation with the default installation of xmms. It does not 
include an mp3 decoder. You might have to get the plugin, when you file 
a feature request for xmms. They have the needed mp3 plugin.

I hope the next version of Red Hat includes a lot of screen reader 
capabilities with the programs.

Jim

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Re: running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-19 Thread hank
is xine java or gtk 2.0 compatible?


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Re: running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-19 Thread Jake Johnson
Why don't you run xine or xmms instead of winamp?

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, hank wrote:

> hello I am new to linux and new to redhat 9.0
> I am wanting to run a few windows programs with wine I have a few questions
> 1. how do I use wine in redhat 9.0?
> 2. the 2 programs I want to run are
> winamp
> and the other one is
> ventrilo
> ventrilo is a voice chat aplication
> ventril doesn't have a linux client so I would need to run it in wine.
> how do I do this?
> thanks for your help
> take care
> hank smith.
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Re: running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-19 Thread hank



I am unable to use xmms.  it isn't screen 
reader compatible.
I am using a x windows screen reader with the gnome 
desktop.


Re: running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-19 Thread Lukas Fried
Title: Re: running wine on redhat
9.0?


hello I am
new to linux and new to redhat 9.0
I am wanting
to run a few windows programs with wine I have a few
questions
1. how do I
use wine in redhat 9.0?
2. the 2
programs I want to run are
winamp
and the
other one is
ventrilo
ventrilo is
a voice chat aplication
ventril
doesn't have a linux client so I would need to run it in
wine.
how do I do
this?
thanks for
your help
take
care
hank
smith.

I don't know much about Wine but I do know that if you want to
use Winamp under Linux then you should try out XMMS. It's basically
the same thing, with the same skins and everything. It's also bundled
on the RH9 CDs.



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running wine on redhat 9.0?

2003-07-19 Thread hank



hello I am new to linux and new to redhat 
9.0
I am wanting to run a few windows programs with 
wine I have a few questions
1. how do I use wine in redhat 9.0?
2. the 2 programs I want to run are
winamp
and the other one is
ventrilo
ventrilo is a voice chat aplication
ventril doesn't have a linux client so I would need 
to run it in wine.
how do I do this?
thanks for your help
take care
hank smith.


Re: special accents on mozilla 1.2.1 or 1.4 under redhat 9.0 -won'twork

2003-07-19 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Bret Hughes wrote:

"
do you get any messages when you start mozilla from the command line?

as a test I changed my LANG to en_BR and got this at the command line:"



Humm.. that's probably because there is no brazilian english.. :)
I tried it with pt_BR (portuguese_Brazil) and it gave me no error messages,
just didn't help me at all.. Anyway it seems like this is an actual mozilla bug
related to gtk2; I checked again and found this:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203347

and it looks like the problem should be solved, right? But I still get it with
mozilla 1.4.. so in bugzilla when a bug is marked fixed, do I have to install
a patch? The site is not very clear about that.. there are some patch code files
but I don't have a clear idea what they are there for.

Thanks for the help;


"
[bhughes bretsony images]$ mozilla
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en_BR"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").


 7608 pts/3S  0:00 mozilla-bin
PWD=/home/bhughes/mydata/QT/images XAUTHORITY=/home/bhughes/.Xauthority
WINDOWID=14680820 HOSTNAME=bretsony
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b:/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b/plugins
HOSTDISPLAY=:0.0 QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3-gcc2.96
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s GDMSESSION=Default USER=bhughes
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:ex=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.sh=01;32:*.csh=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.tif=01;35:
 MAIL=/var/spool/mail/bhughes INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc CVS_RSH=ssh XMODIFIERS= im=none 
LANG=en_BR COLORTERM=gnome-terminal MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins 
DISPLAY=:0.0 LOGNAME=bhughes SHLVL=3 GDM_LANG=en_US SHELL=/bin/bash 
CVSROOT=:ext:bhughes compaq3:/usr/local/cvs HISTSIZE=1000 HOME=/home/bhughes 
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass TERM=xterm 
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/bhughes/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin::/home/bhughes/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:


Not a solution I know but at least another data point.  BTW this is RHL
7.3.

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Re: special accents on mozilla 1.2.1 or 1.4 under redhat 9.0 - won'twork

2003-07-19 Thread Bret Hughes
On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:09, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote:
> 
>   I just upgraded to RedHat 9.0 and now I can't get special characters
> like ã, á, à, ê on Mozilla input.. which are important to me and work
> just fine on all other programs, like they used to on RedHat 8.0
> (Mozilla 1.0.1, which I used to have on RH 8.0, didn't have this
> problem). I've been searching for the answer for quite some time and
> couldn't manage to find anything conclusive on mozilla.org or google ...
> it seems hard to figure, there are some big inconclusive discussions
> about this out there. I thought maybe I should set the locale to pt_BR
> (brazilian), but then again, why would that only matter to mozilla?
> Anyway whenever I run
> 
> ]$ export LANG=pt_BR
> 
> , when I enter mozilla it sets back to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ..
> 

do you get any messages when you start mozilla from the command line?

as a test I changed my LANG to en_BR and got this at the command line:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] images]$ mozilla
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en_BR"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").


 7608 pts/3S  0:00 mozilla-bin
PWD=/home/bhughes/mydata/QT/images XAUTHORITY=/home/bhughes/.Xauthority
WINDOWID=14680820 HOSTNAME=bretsony
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b:/usr/lib/mozilla-1.3b/plugins
HOSTDISPLAY=:0.0 QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3-gcc2.96
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s GDMSESSION=Default USER=bhughes
LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:ex=01;32:*.cmd=01;32:*.exe=01;32:*.com=01;32:*.btm=01;32:*.bat=01;32:*.sh=01;32:*.csh=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.tif=01;35:
 MAIL=/var/spool/mail/bhughes INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc CVS_RSH=ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
LANG=en_BR COLORTERM=gnome-terminal MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins 
DISPLAY=:0.0 LOGNAME=bhughes SHLVL=3 GDM_LANG=en_US SHELL=/bin/bash 
CVSROOT=:ext:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/cvs HISTSIZE=1000 HOME=/home/bhughes 
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass TERM=xterm 
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/bhughes/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin::/home/bhughes/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:


Not a solution I know but at least another data point.  BTW this is RHL
7.3.

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special accents on mozilla 1.2.1 or 1.4 under redhat 9.0 - won'twork

2003-07-18 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto

  I just upgraded to RedHat 9.0 and now I can't get special characters
like ã, á, à, ê on Mozilla input.. which are important to me and work
just fine on all other programs, like they used to on RedHat 8.0
(Mozilla 1.0.1, which I used to have on RH 8.0, didn't have this
problem). I've been searching for the answer for quite some time and
couldn't manage to find anything conclusive on mozilla.org or google ...
it seems hard to figure, there are some big inconclusive discussions
about this out there. I thought maybe I should set the locale to pt_BR
(brazilian), but then again, why would that only matter to mozilla?
Anyway whenever I run

]$ export LANG=pt_BR

, when I enter mozilla it sets back to LANG=en_US.UTF-8 ..

I don't think that's the problem since accents work fine with en_US, for
example, on gedit.
Some outputs anyway:

]$ ps xce | grep mozilla | less


 2585 ?S  0:31 mozilla-bin SSH_AGENT_PID=2290
HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain SHELL=/bin/bash TERM=dumb HISTSIZE=1000
GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/heinloft/.gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1 USER=heinloft
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1:/usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/plugins
LS_COLORS= SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/ssh-XXesuRiA/agent.2247
SESSION_MANAGER=local/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2247
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
FONTCONFIG_PATH=/etc/fonts:/usr/lib/mozilla-1.2.1/res/Xft
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/heinloft
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/heinloft/bin
INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc PWD=/home/heinloft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 GDMSESSION=Default
SSH_ASKPASS=/usr/libexec/openssh/gnome-ssh-askpass HOME=/home/heinloft
SHLVL=1 GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=Default LOGNAME=heinloft
LESSOPEN=|/usr/bin/lesspipe.sh %s DISPLAY=:0.0 G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
XAUTHORITY=/home/heinloft/.Xauthority


]$ locale

LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

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Redhat 9.0 and KDE

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Gelling
Hi,

I've recently installed Redhat 9.0 on my PC. On trying to use KDE I find
that if I dial up with KPPP half of my desktop icons disappear and I
lose the menu brought up by right clicking on the desktop is disabled.
If I don't use KPPP it works fine, with no problems, soon as I dial the
icons disappear and the right mouse key ceases to function. Although it
works fine under Gnome, I would prefer KDE.

 I've tried upgrading KDE with 3.1.2 RPM's off the KDE website, this
worked once until I rebooted, then the same fault reoccurred and has
remained.

Can someone give me some pointers as to what might be wrong, as I am not
sure where to start.

Thanks a lot,

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Redhat 9.0 and laptop touchpad

2003-07-05 Thread Phoebe CHAN
Dear all,

I got another question. I installed Redhat 9.0 on my
laptop with touchpad (3 buttons).  In the mouseconfig,
it recognized as Generic 3-button (PS/2).  The left
and right buttons worked fine but not for the middle
button.I used to install the synaptics driver and
tpconfig but it didn't help.  tpconfig also had
conflict with synaptic  package during installation. 
I surfed the internet and I could not find any
solution.  Do you have any suggestions?

Your suggestions will be much appreciated.

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Freefonts have disappeared after reboot (RedHat 9.0)

2003-07-03 Thread Ricardo
Hi,

I just installed freefont and I can use them until my next reboot. Then, I 
can't see them and have to reinstall again.

Any ideas?

I believe I am not installing them in the correct directory. The readme file  
mention (bellow) /usr/X11/lib/fonts but because I don't have this directory I 
installed it under usr/x11R6/include/x11/fonts.

So I did,

  xset fp+ /usr/x11R6/include/x11/fonts/freefont
  xset fp rehash

Thank you,
Ricardo



Installation for X11 (readme file)
___

1. Change to /usr/X11/lib/fonts

2. untar the archive freefont-0.10.tar.gz

3. Give the following commands to make X11 accept the new fonts

  xset fp+ /usr/X11/lib/fonts/freefont
  xset fp rehash

4. The fonts are available under X11.
Check them out by running "xfontsel" for example.

5. Cleanup. You might erase all licenses in
/usr/X11/lib/fonts/freefont with
   rm *.license *.tgz
but it would be better to have a look at them first...


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Re: opera 7.1 on Redhat 9.0

2003-06-20 Thread root_sharif
I got the same problem as i was trying on command line ...
with rpm -ivh opera... ... ... rpm

but when i tried to install with the add/remove software 
it was ok .. RH9.0 is able to find out the dependencies itself
and install them accordingly .. 

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Re: Red Carpet 2.0.1 on RedHat 9.0

2003-06-18 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Cornelius Kölbel wrote:
Hello,

I am running 2.0.1 and have no problems.
Often it is rather slow. Right now I would hit "Run Now" (If I would 
like to have an xmms, that is not able to play mp3´s)

Regards
Cornelius
1) Please, don't send attachments to the mailing list.
2) It can play MP3's if you get the plugin from XMMS.org.
It seems I'm the only one with the problem then.

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Re: Red Carpet 2.0.1 on RedHat 9.0

2003-06-18 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Hello,

I am running 2.0.1 and have no problems.
Often it is rather slow. Right now I would hit "Run Now" (If I would 
like to have an xmms, that is not able to play mp3´s)

Regards
Cornelius
Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:

Is anyone else having problems updating their systems via RedCarpet? 
I'm trying to update only three packages at a time (because I'm being 
limited to 5KB/sec on RC's end) and right now, I'm not able to even 
start the process of retrieving those files (whether I run it as root 
or a priviledged RC user).


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Red Carpet 2.0.1 on RedHat 9.0

2003-06-17 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
Is anyone else having problems updating their systems via RedCarpet? I'm 
trying to update only three packages at a time (because I'm being 
limited to 5KB/sec on RC's end) and right now, I'm not able to even 
start the process of retrieving those files (whether I run it as root or 
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[Fwd: glibc - redhat 9.0 and Matlab 12.1]

2003-06-05 Thread Sue Champigny

I have done a fresh install on a system, that has
matlab 6.1 R12.1 and matlab 6.5 R13.  However the
install of 9.0 broke the older verion of matlab.
Here is the error I receive.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# matlab
> Opening Log file:  /root/java.log.
> Warning: Failed to start the Java Virtual machine.
> 
> cat /root/java.log.
> Warning: Disabling Java
> support./usr/local/matlab6.1/sys/java/jre/glnx86/jre/lib/i386/native_threads/libzip
> .so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
> lin
> k time reference (libzip.so)
> Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread
> 
> 
> Anyone have any ideas.  The recent up2date, did nothing.
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I have done a fresh install on a system, that has
matlab 6.1 R12.1 and matlab 6.5 R13.  However the
install of 9.0 broke the older verion of matlab.
Here is the error I receive.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# matlab
> Opening Log file:  /root/java.log.
> Warning: Failed to start the Java Virtual machine.
> 
> cat /root/java.log.
> Warning: Disabling Java
> support./usr/local/matlab6.1/sys/java/jre/glnx86/jre/lib/i386/native_threads/libzip
> .so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
> lin
> k time reference (libzip.so)
> Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread
> 
> 
> Anyone have any ideas.  The recent up2date, did nothing.
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Re: RedHat 9.0 and CUPS

2003-05-30 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 29 May 2003, [iso-8859-1] Bjørn-Sverrre Nøttum wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I am new to the list and I hope this question is on topic. If it is not
> please recommend another list.
>
> I have recently upgraded my system from RedHat 7.3 to 9.0. Now I have some
> problems when trying to print from a win98 client via CUPS to a printer
> which is connected to another win98 client. When i install the printer in
> CUPS and print a test page, everything works well. However, when I try to
> print from win98, my printing jobs seem to vanish into thin air. Nothing
> happens. I do not get an error messages from either the computer I am
> printing form, from CUPS or from the win98 computer where the printer is
> attatched. The job is not registered anywhere in CUPS either.

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to accomplish here.  If the printer
is attached to a Win98 machine, I would think you would just share it from
there with the Win98 client.  If you want the Linux machine to be a
client, I think you need Samba, and it looks like redhat-config-printer
should just do the right thing.

>
> I also tried to install the printer on the server via KDE, but when I
> install the printer on the win98 client it crashes.
>
> I have tried to restart lpd. When I do this I get the following warning
> (HP_940c is the name of my printer):
>
> Starting lpd: Warning - HP_940c: 'no :rm, :lp, or :sv entry'
> Warning - HP_940c: Bad printcap entry - missing 'sd' or 'client' entry?
>
> I have also tried to do this on a server which is originally set up with
> 9.0, and with this there are no problems.

If you are using CUPS, you are not using lpd.  Did you upgrade this
machine from an earlier Red Hat release?  In 9.0, CUPS is the default and
LPRng is not even installed on a fresh install.  You need to commit to
either CUPS or LPRng and stay away from the other.

>
> Can anyone give me a hint on what is Wrong??
>
> Bjorn
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RedHat 9.0 and CUPS

2003-05-30 Thread Bjørn-Sverrre Nøttum
Hi!

I am new to the list and I hope this question is on topic. If it is not 
please recommend another list.

I have recently upgraded my system from RedHat 7.3 to 9.0. Now I have some 
problems when trying to print from a win98 client via CUPS to a printer 
which is connected to another win98 client. When i install the printer in 
CUPS and print a test page, everything works well. However, when I try to 
print from win98, my printing jobs seem to vanish into thin air. Nothing 
happens. I do not get an error messages from either the computer I am 
printing form, from CUPS or from the win98 computer where the printer is 
attatched. The job is not registered anywhere in CUPS either.

I also tried to install the printer on the server via KDE, but when I 
install the printer on the win98 client it crashes.

I have tried to restart lpd. When I do this I get the following warning 
(HP_940c is the name of my printer):

Starting lpd: Warning - HP_940c: 'no :rm, :lp, or :sv entry'
Warning - HP_940c: Bad printcap entry - missing 'sd' or 'client' entry?
I have also tried to do this on a server which is originally set up with 
9.0, and with this there are no problems.

Can anyone give me a hint on what is Wrong??

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Re: Savage/IX + redhat 9.0

2003-04-02 Thread Cliff Wells
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 02:32, Lars Eighner wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Christensen Tom wrote:
> 
> > Just upgraded my laptop from redhat 8 to redhat 9,
> 
> Why did you do that?

Probably for the same reason I'll be doing it in the next couple of
days:  because I want to take a look.  If it doesn't work and I can't
fix it, I'll drop back to 8.

> I just want to make a point here.  If you have a working system and you
> don't know there is something mission-critical on the new version, it is

Who said anything about "mission critical"?  He said he installed it on
a laptop, has problems with the video and wanted to know if anybody had
any suggestions on how to fix it.  I didn't see anything where he asked
for your opinion on when he should upgrade.

> foolish to upgrade - and especially so the first few weeks after a release.
> This "biggest, latest, fastest, shiniest" thing is exactly what makes
> commercial software suck so bad.

And of course, if everyone followed that advice no one would ever
upgrade because we'd all still be waiting for other people to do it
first.  Do you think developers depend solely on bug reports from each
other?

"Release early, release often" has a counterpart for the user community:
"Help test, and please, add your $0.02 by reporting bugs".  

> > now I can't get better than 800x600 resolution on my laptop
> > whats the problem?  Is this a known issue?  Any known workaround?
> 
> XFree86 has tons of issues with Savage and has had them for a long time.
> I suggest you look here:
> 
>Linkname: S3 Savage support on XFree86 4.x
> URL: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html
> 
> for information and the latest drivers.  XFree86 4 was a tad on the
> premature side and unfortunately packagers have hopped on it.

This is much more useful information.


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Re: Savage/IX + redhat 9.0

2003-04-02 Thread Gene Yoo
Christensen Tom wrote:


Just upgraded my laptop from redhat 8 to redhat 9,
now I can't get better than 800x600 resolution on my laptop
whats the problem?  Is this a known issue?  Any known workaround?
it is a savage/IX chipset and both 8 and 9 recognize it fine in the 
install, but 9 will only let me select 800x600 and if I edit the 
XF86config file by hand and only give it the option of 1024x768, then X 
will not start.
thanks for any help offered
Tom
tom,

what kind of laptop is it?  anyone else (guinea pigs) having 
problem with installing it on laptops?  i'm waiting for more 
feedbacks on the server before i start 
upgrading/installing/etc on my servers :) ...

gene
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Re: Savage/IX + redhat 9.0

2003-04-02 Thread Lars Eighner
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Christensen Tom wrote:

> Just upgraded my laptop from redhat 8 to redhat 9,

Why did you do that?

I just want to make a point here.  If you have a working system and you
don't know there is something mission-critical on the new version, it is
foolish to upgrade - and especially so the first few weeks after a release.
This "biggest, latest, fastest, shiniest" thing is exactly what makes
commercial software suck so bad.

> now I can't get better than 800x600 resolution on my laptop
> whats the problem?  Is this a known issue?  Any known workaround?

XFree86 has tons of issues with Savage and has had them for a long time.
I suggest you look here:

   Linkname: S3 Savage support on XFree86 4.x
URL: http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html

for information and the latest drivers.  XFree86 4 was a tad on the
premature side and unfortunately packagers have hopped on it.

> it is a savage/IX chipset and both 8 and 9 recognize it fine in the install, 
> but 9 will only let me select 800x600 and if I edit the XF86config file by 
> hand and only give it the option of 1024x768, then X will not start.
> thanks for any help offered
> Tom

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Re: Savage/IX + redhat 9.0

2003-04-01 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 03:36:46AM +, Christensen Tom wrote:
> Just upgraded my laptop from redhat 8 to redhat 9,
> now I can't get better than 800x600 resolution on my laptop
> whats the problem?  Is this a known issue?  Any known workaround?
> it is a savage/IX chipset and both 8 and 9 recognize it fine in the install, 
> but 9 will only let me select 800x600 and if I edit the XF86config file by 
> hand and only give it the option of 1024x768, then X will not start.

1.  Please take this to shrike-list where all the 9 discussions should
now take place.  I've set the reply-to to shrike-list.
2.  8.0 used Vesa drivers for most of the Savage cards and now 9 is
using native mode.  My ProSavageDDR now appears to be a paperweight and
this is being discussed on the shrike-list.  This card worked fine for
7.3, 8.0, but won't even let me do a graphics install on 9.

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Savage/IX + redhat 9.0

2003-04-01 Thread Christensen Tom


Just upgraded my laptop from redhat 8 to redhat 9,
now I can't get better than 800x600 resolution on my laptop
whats the problem?  Is this a known issue?  Any known workaround?
it is a savage/IX chipset and both 8 and 9 recognize it fine in the install, 
but 9 will only let me select 800x600 and if I edit the XF86config file by 
hand and only give it the option of 1024x768, then X will not start.
thanks for any help offered
Tom



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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Vanecek
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:51:32 -0500, Ben Russo wrote
> Ed Wilts wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:56:44AM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Correct.  Please see
> >http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029087.html
> >
> >  
> >
> >>If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)?  If not, will
> >>the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the
> >>new stuff)?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It's not 9.0.  It's 9.
> >
> >I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can
> >upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9.  The documentation will be out soon -
> >it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you
> >can check for the definitive, supported approach.
> >
> >  
> >
> If the 9 release is similar to the 8.0.94 iso's I downloaded and 
> installed last week
> I wouldn't try an upgrade if you have anything other than redhat 
> rpm's installed the release is not binary compatable with 
> Codeweavers Office, or many of the third party binary RPM's I had 
> installed.  Something to do with big glibc differences.
> 
> If you have a machine you have been using for a long time with 8.0,
>  I would wait a while before trying to make the move to 9, (just so 
> that you can give all the third party vendors time to catch up in 
> their FAQ's and HOWTO's).
> 
> And if you have any add on binary software products like wineX or 
> Codeweavers
> or Evolution Connector, you should wait until there are "Official" updates.

Of course, "official" support of RH 8 supposedly will stop after 12/31/03. I
think you are correct, however. I am really tired of upgrading. I was looking
forward to seeing 8.1 with the hopes it might clean up some stability issues.
I think I will hang for several months and then decide what I need to do.
Rebuilding systems is starting to be less and less fun. I still run a RH 5.2
system and a RH 7.1 system. However, the RH 5.2 is basically dead since it
will not run some newer things. The RH 7.1 will no longer have "official"
support after 12/31/03 also. Maybe one of the more advanced releases might
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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Ben Russo
Ed Wilts wrote:

On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:56:44AM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote:
 

Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released?
   

Correct.  Please see
http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029087.html
 

If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)?  If not, will
the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the
new stuff)?
   

It's not 9.0.  It's 9.

I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can
upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9.  The documentation will be out soon -
it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you
can check for the definitive, supported approach.
 

If the 9 release is similar to the 8.0.94 iso's I downloaded and 
installed last week
I wouldn't try an upgrade if you have anything other than redhat rpm's 
installed
the release is not binary compatable with Codeweavers Office, or many of 
the
third party binary RPM's I had installed.  Something to do with big 
glibc differences.

If you have a machine you have been using for a long time with 8.0, I 
would wait a
while before trying to make the move to 9, (just so that you can give 
all the third
party vendors time to catch up in their FAQ's and HOWTO's).

And if you have any add on binary software products like wineX or 
Codeweavers
or Evolution Connector, you should wait until there are "Official" updates.

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Re: RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread Thijs Thiessens
So, does rh9 contains gnome 2.2? Or not?!?



Thijs

Op di 25-03-2003, om 22:38 schreef Gene Yoo:
> DuSTiN KRySaK wrote:
> > On 3/25/03 12:00 PM, "Gene Yoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spit this out onto my
> > computer screen:
> > 
> > 
> >>join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info
> >>: ) ...
> >>-- 
> >><>
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119
> > 
> > Try that - gives a little info...
> > 
> >   Dustin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> i was just giving my little sarcasm : ) ...
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Re: RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread DuSTiN KRySaK
On 3/25/03 1:38 PM, "Gene Yoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spit this out onto my
computer screen:

> i was just giving my little sarcasm : ) ...
> 
> -- 
> <>
I figured as much - but I thought the link might still be of interest to
some...   ;-)

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Re: RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread Gene Yoo
DuSTiN KRySaK wrote:
On 3/25/03 12:00 PM, "Gene Yoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spit this out onto my
computer screen:

join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info
: ) ...
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http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119

Try that - gives a little info...

  Dustin



i was just giving my little sarcasm : ) ...

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Re: RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread DuSTiN KRySaK
On 3/25/03 12:00 PM, "Gene Yoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spit this out onto my
computer screen:

> join the club, i've been scrawling around to find more info
> : ) ...
> -- 
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http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3119

Try that - gives a little info...

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Re: RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread Gene Yoo
Steve Buehler wrote:
I don't know if I missed it here on the mailing list or not but has 
anybody got a link to a page that tells more about the new RedHat 9.0?  
Basically, I would like to find out what the main difference is that 
would make them go to a new major release.  All I can find on their web 
site is "How To Get Red Hat Linux 9 Early".  Which doesn't say what is 
new at all.  Doesn't give any information except on how to get it early.

Thanks
Steve


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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:09:11AM -0800, Jim Wilferling wrote:
> When you say update in place, does that mean rpm -U ?

Not really. I mean pop in the CD (or use one of the other installation
methods like NFS or FTP) and do an upgrade.
 
> Yes, I know i should just be getting a burner. But I'm lazy, and I
> thought I'd keep it down to less than 20 re-installs this month.

Burners are cheaper these days.  My 48x burner was $20 after rebate and
I've seen them for $10 since.  

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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Wilferling
It's not 9.0.  It's 9.
> 
> I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can
> upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9.  The documentation will be out soon -
> it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you
> can check for the definitive, supported approach.
> 
> Ok, this sounds good, but (and I'm new, so I just want to doublechec)
When you say update in place, does that mean rpm -U ?

Yes, I know i should just be getting a burner. But I'm lazy, and I thought I'd keep it 
down to less than 20 re-installs this month.



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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:56:44AM -0600, Mike Vanecek wrote:
> Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released?

Correct.  Please see
http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2003-March/029087.html

> If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)?  If not, will
> the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the
> new stuff)?

It's not 9.0.  It's 9.

I believe that Red Hat is still supporting upgrades - i.e. you can
upgrade in place from 8.0 to 9.  The documentation will be out soon -
it's always released at the same time as the product so in a week you
can check for the definitive, supported approach.

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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Vanecek
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:36:02 -0800, Jim Wilferling wrote
> Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone 
> through 7.2, 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so 
> whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta rpms, and there were worse 
> problems than there were with 8.0.So we copeI'm not about to 
> switch distros so quickly, just cause of some version hullaboo. But 
> I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. 
> When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its 
> own partition, mess up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my 
> /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary incompatability mean that I 
> wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, is there 
> a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have 
> a burner.) Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?

I am a little confused now.

Does all this discussion mean that no RH 8.1 will be released?


If one goes from 8.0 to 9.0 should it be from scratch (argg...)?  If not, will
the migration be stable (I worry about old items hanging around corrupting the
new stuff)?

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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread John Nichel
mount -o loop -t iso9660 isofilename mountpoint

Jim Wilferling wrote:
   Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2, 8.0, and 
was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta 
rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. 
When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own partition, mess 
up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary 
incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, 
is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have a 
burner.)
Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?
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RedHat 9.0

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Buehler
I don't know if I missed it here on the mailing list or not but has anybody 
got a link to a page that tells more about the new RedHat 9.0?  Basically, 
I would like to find out what the main difference is that would make them 
go to a new major release.  All I can find on their web site is "How To Get 
Red Hat Linux 9 Early".  Which doesn't say what is new at all.  Doesn't 
give any information except on how to get it early.

Thanks
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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:12:39AM -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> The biggest problem you might run into is some config files in your home

But these are not "binaries" and is true of almost any upgrade anyway...

> What you want to do - copy these files to a floppy:
> /etc/shadow
> /etc/group
> /etc/passwd

Why? The upgrade should handle this. I have these files successfully
upgraded since RH5.0 (every increment since then), and never had a
problem.
 
> If you don't have a burner - I *really* recommend you have a friend burn
> the iso's. Really.

I'd suggest just installing from the iso images in that case. Much
easier.
 
> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 00:36, Jim Wilferling wrote:
> >Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone
> >through 7.2, 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0,
> >so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta rpms, and there were
> >worse problems than there were with 8.0. So we copeI'm not
> >about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some version
> >hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2.
> >Heres the rub. When they say binary incompatable, will my /home
> >dir, which is its own partition, mess up a new9.0 istall?
> >should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary
> >incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade
> >rpms on the fly? If not, is there a way to mount a disc image
> >without it being on a disc? (I dont have a burner.)

It mostly means that rpms build on a RH9 system will not likely run on
RH8 or RH7, etc. That's all. RPMs built on older systems should
probably still install on RH9 (due to backward compatibility of libs). 
It's not a big deal. When you went from RH7.x to RH8.0 you hit the
same hurdle. The world did not end then did it? 

> > Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?

Just depends.

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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Michael A. Peters
The biggest problem you might run into is some config files in your home
directory that have changed spec, but that has only happened to me once
- I think when going from a pre 1 version of gnome to a much newer one.

If that happens - just delete the config file.

What you want to do - copy these files to a floppy:
/etc/shadow
/etc/group
/etc/passwd

Any data not in your home directory that you want to save, back them up
too. Such as /etc/httpd/httpd.conf if you use Apache and have customized
it. You might want to save your ssl key too, but I never bother to on a
home machine.

When you install the new distro, choose your current /home partition
with a mount point of /home but DO NOT choose to format it.

Let the install go, don't create a new user - just the root user is
enough.

Boot into single the root account, mount the floppy, and run:

cat /mnt/floppy/shadow > /etc/shadow
cat /mnt/floppy/group > /etc/group
cat /mnt/floppy/passwd > /etc/passwd

reboot - and you should be able to log into any of your user accounts
just fine.

If you don't have a burner - I *really* recommend you have a friend burn
the iso's. Really.

I don't know where you live, but in California (most of the US I
suspect) you can get an IDE cdrw drive for about $50.00 now new. They
really have dropped in price. But if you can't afford it, really - get a
friend to burn it. You probably want to burn backups of your home
directory anyway just in case something goes wrong.

If I were you, though - I'd wait to install RH9 until about a month
after it has been released. That way you can see pitfalls to avoid - and
show stopper bugs have a better chance of having patches easily
available.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 00:36, Jim Wilferling wrote:
>Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2,
> 8.0, and was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 
> 8.1 beta rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
> So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
> version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the 
> rub. When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own 
> partition, mess up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And 
> does this binary incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms 
> on the fly? If not, is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? 
> (I dont have a burner.)
> Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?
> 
> _jim
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Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Michael A. Peters
Not very fancy - but it works (attached shell script).
At some point I plan to add an option to specify the mount point if
/mnt/iso doesn't exist - but simple as it is, I never got around to it
;)

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 01:39, Willem van der Walt wrote:
> is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (
> I dont have a burner.)
> mount -tiso9660 disk.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop
> 
>  
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#!/bin/bash

mnt="/mnt/iso"

if [ ! -d $mnt ]; then
	echo "$mnt does not exist"
	exit 1
fi

if [ `mount |grep -c "/mnt/iso"` -gt 0 ]; then
	echo "An ISO image is already mounted on $mnt"
	echo "Please choose a different mountpoint"
	exit 1
fi
if [ `whoami` = "root" ]; then
	mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 $mnt
	if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
		echo "mount failed"
		exit 1
	fi
else
	su root --command="mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 $mnt"
	if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then
		echo "mount failed"
		exit 1
	fi
fi


Re: RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Willem van der Walt<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (
I dont have a burner.)
mount -tiso9660 disk.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop

 
 



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RedHat 9.0 - The Practical Side

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Wilferling
   Alright, so I'm annoyed. Just learning linux, and I've gone through 7.2, 8.0, and 
was anticipating 8.1. so now there's 9.0, so whatI've tried to install 8.1 beta 
rpms, and there were worse problems than there were with 8.0.
So we copeI'm not about to switch distros so quickly, just cause of some 
version hullaboo. But I want the new release, If it contains gnome 2.2. Heres the rub. 
When they say binary incompatable, will my /home dir, which is its own partition, mess 
up a new9.0 istall? should I delete all my /home/Jim/.* files? And does this binary 
incompatability mean that I wont ever be able to just upgrade rpms on the fly? If not, 
is there a way to mount a disc image without it being on a disc? (I dont have a 
burner.)
Basically, I'm game, But does it brown the food?

_jim



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