Re: CSAlkaline quick fix...
Hi Cybersilversippers... I need help...FAST. This heat is knocking me out. Anybody got a quick fix? I think getting more alkaline fast would help. Any ideas besides lemons? Please...I am drooping badly V i l i k According to Paul Bragg, there is nothing like fresh celery juice for heat related problems (including 'salt depletion', as it is loaded with organic sodium). -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCopper
Charles... If you decide to be a guinea pig with this, please let me know what happens! Best wishes, Taylor But recently it was reported, here I believe, that a form of colloidal copper was EXTREMELY effective at completely wiping out candida albicans, so it was for this one, specific use that I was inquiring. -- Charles Marcus Will do, and thanks... -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
In a message dated 99-07-10 06:32:20 EDT, you write: Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate will also do this work. I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRE: HELP needed! Getting Silver stains off Formica counter tops
ejfi...@aol.com wrote: I have spilled some CS on a Formica counter top and can't get the stains out. I have tried peroxide and that helped slightly but the stains are still quite evident. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Carol The only thing I know that will react with silver is hot nitric acid. Definitely not recommended though. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSdark rings around eyes
Hi Don't forget to take at least 1/8 tsp. of salt during the day for better regulation of water. Andy -Original Message- From: bober...@postoffice.swbell.net [mailto:bober...@postoffice.swbell.net] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 2:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSdark rings around eyes Tom, Lack of water!!! are you drinking 6-8 70z glasses a day not pop or coffee? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSMSM ...Danger?
I have been on a highly refined form of MSM for almost two years now and no adverse side affects. In fact quite the opposite. MSM has been instumental in my recovery from my systemic infection in March (a very serious penicillin reaction). MSM in fact metabolizes very well and helps in the cellular level transport of wastes and the body's ability (permeability) to pass these wastes through cell walls. Lactic acid does not stick around after an heavy snow shoveling weekend, workouts etc. TnT -Original Message- TnT From: Vilik Rapheles [mailto:vi...@peak.org] TnT Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 1:19 PM TnT To: silver-list@eskimo.com TnT Subject: CSMSM ...Danger? TnT TnT TnT TnT Re: MSM TnT TnTLet me jump in to the dicussion of MSM and DMSO belatedly TnT to say that TnT Dave at WaterOz believes MSM is very dangerous long-term. He TnT took it for TnT about a year and says he ended up in a wheelchair. He TnT believes it can be TnT a help as a carrier (as Brooks uses it) because it is not TnT metabolized and TnT goes right to the blood stream, or/and for an initial few TnT months to clean TnT things out. However, because it is not metabolized, it is not TnT broken down TnT into components, and it builds up. If you want to talk to TnT Dave, call 1 800 TnT 547 2294. Don't ask me...I don't know any more about it! TnT However, it is a TnT good idea to remember that this is a NEW product, and nobody TnT knows the long TnT term effects. TnT TnT ~^^V^^~ TnT TnT TnT -- TnT The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of TnT colloidal silver. TnT TnT To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail TnT message to: TnT silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com TnT with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. TnT TnT To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com TnT TnT List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net TnT TnT -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRE: HELP needed! Getting Silver stains off Formica counter tops
I had a severely silver stained enamelled pan which came clean when soaked for 45 min. with 4 - 8 day old urine. Good Luck, Michael ejfi...@aol.com wrote: I have spilled some CS on a Formica counter top and can't get the stains out. I have tried peroxide and that helped slightly but the stains are still quite evident. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNo Subject
Sure, Katarina. I'll post the info on the list for all. With any luck, these devices are common in Korean food stores and won't be too hard to find. Samm In a message dated 99-07-11 13:59:44 EDT, you write: Hi Samm, my doctor gave me a book on how ionized water was the key to health and longevity - don't know if it's true or not - but would be very curious to try one that doesn't cost $1,000 or more as most seem to. Would you also let me know if you get it and if it seems to work.? And then maybe get the name of the store or of the ionizer and I can see if I can find one in LA. Thanks so much. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSmarshall-fingers that when bent get stuck and hurt
Marshall, You may have something called trigger finger. It is very painful. I have found an herb that cured trigger finger. Cats Claw, one or two capsules a day. It is a natural anti-inflamatory. I believe it is good for the immune system too. I have had problems with 4 fingers. I tried everything before I found Cat's Claw. I had ultrasound, chiropractic, and tons of other stuff(herbs and vitamins) Before I found the Cats Claw I was in so much pain I agreed to surgery for two of the fingers and they sliced into my Hands just below the finger in the palm. I wish I had known about Cats Claw previously so I could have avoided the surgery. You can purschase it at any health food store. Nancy G Raw apple cider vinegar is supposed to eliminate virtually ALL problems like this, along with many more. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits
Charles, I found this information really interesting. Is barley grass packed with calcium? What are some more superfoods? Taylor These are the best arguments AGAINST individualized supplemantation. The best form of supplementation is a WHOLE FOOD supplement, and the best of these, imho, are the superfoods, and specifically, for calcium, the dehydrated green grass juices. It is my understanding that dehydrated wheatgrasss juice has 10 TIMEs the calcium of a glass of milk, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits
Charles, I found this information really interesting. Is barley grass packed with calcium? That is what all of the books on the subject claim, but I must confess I have not personally done the experiments (nor could I, as I am not a chemist) and./or validated this personally. Chlorophyll (in the form of deep green leafy vegetables (of which the cereal grasses are the most potent) has been called 'Natures Green Steroids' because they are so full of amino acids (lightweight proteins). They have EVERYTHING required for achieving/maintaining health. What are some more superfoods? Others that I use are: Spirulina Chlorella Bee Pollen Royal Jelly Propolis Sea vegetables (dulse, nori, kombu, etc) -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits
Take care with the Royal Jelly, some people are very allergic to it There was a case of an allergic person dying from it's use here in Australia Good health Gordon - Original Message - From: Charles Marcus cmar...@avana.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 12 July 1999 4:15 Subject: Re: CSCalcium deposits Charles, I found this information really interesting. Is barley grass packed with calcium? That is what all of the books on the subject claim, but I must confess I have not personally done the experiments (nor could I, as I am not a chemist) and./or validated this personally. Chlorophyll (in the form of deep green leafy vegetables (of which the cereal grasses are the most potent) has been called 'Natures Green Steroids' because they are so full of amino acids (lightweight proteins). They have EVERYTHING required for achieving/maintaining health. What are some more superfoods? Others that I use are: Spirulina Chlorella Bee Pollen Royal Jelly Propolis Sea vegetables (dulse, nori, kombu, etc) -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRE: HELP needed! Getting Silver stains off Formica counter tops
Try baking soda In a message dated 99-07-11 13:50:17 EDT, you write: I have spilled some CS on a Formica counter top and can't get the stains out. I have tried peroxide and that helped slightly but the stains are still quite evident. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits
Take care with the Royal Jelly, some people are very allergic to it There was a case of an allergic person dying from it's use here in Australia Good health Gordon Although your warning is not to be taken lightly, there are FAR more people percentagewise who die from adverse reactions to over-the-counter medications than from royal jelly. I am ass-u-me-ing that this person was allergic to bee stings, so imho this is the only person who would want to be very careful about consuming bee products. It is also possible thet it was contaminated somehow. Regardless, this is the FIRST report I have ever heard about anyone dying from it, and I have known about it and been taking it off and on for over 10 years. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRE: HELP needed! Getting Silver stains off Formica counter tops
Hi Robert, My home made cs is clear and will stain the tile counter top and the sink in the bathroom if I spill even a drop of it. It is very difficult to get out. The best thing I have found so far is lava soap rubbed on it and even that is difficult to do. Richard At 04:28 PM 7/11/99 -0500, you wrote: Carol, Was the CS home made of Commercial? I have not seen home made CS stain anything. One batch of CS that I testes for someone was supposed to be 500 ppm and wa about 40 ppm with yellow food color. If it is food color the a dilute soluton of chlorox will take it out. Robert -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAlkaline quick fix...
In a message dated 7/11/99 9:32:32 PM Central Daylight Time, cmar...@avana.net writes: Paul Bragg proved just how big a fallacy this is. He challenged a few Special Forces guys (He was well over 60 at the time, I believe) to a forced march kind of competition in the desert (forget which one - was it Death Valley?), they with their salt tablets, and he with his fresh celery juice (high in organic SODIUM). Needless to say, they were soon done in while he just kept going, and going, and going, and going... Sodium Chloride is NOT a chemical you should put in your body. -- Charles Marcus If any have read DR. Norman Walkers books on health, he says the same thing, celery juice for heat. He died of natural causes at about 116 I think. Wrote his last book not too long before his passing and most impotant of all, lived what he taught. edith ps did all of this after he was told he had a terminal illnessovercame it naturally -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAlkaline quick fix...
He [Paul Bragg] died of natural causes at about 116 I think. ~~ And I should take the word of somebody who only lived to 116? gg Gonna try that celery juice today Oh...anybody familiar with yerba mate? Drunk in south america...helps the body deal with heat. Absolutely true, I drank it all one summer. In SA the gov subsidizies its use for young children because it contains so many nutrients. Contains a kind of caffeine called matteine, I believe...not so strong. However, I built up an intolerence to it. It also did something strange to my endocrine system. But I was drinking tons of it. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSHello
Hi My name is Monica, 47 yr old female with CFIDS, also diagnosed with Bechets (very similiar immune disorders). I learned over a decade ago the only way to treat my ills was natural medicine, that traditional, conventional medicine only made me more ill. I had a wonderful shiatsu doctor from Japan who saved my life. Been out of it since she died actually. I heard about CS quit a long while ago and must admit until I read on the forum of Freerepublic.com, that I didn't know we could buy it and the best news make it ourselves with buying a CS generator. Here is where I'd like input. It is very confusing who has the best and correct geneartor to buy. They all claim to. All I know is I want one, I need one, we have many immune sicknesses in my large family. Alot of dysbiosis and abdominal ills that I know CS will help. I heard about the premise for CS many years ago when a doctor was trying to get the FDA to listen to his nearly free costing cure for Cancer, which has almost struck every member of my family. But the FDA put the cabosh on this MD , he was from Ohio. I cared for a terminally ill mother who died here at home not long ago and always tried to find out what this doctor did or had. Also another MD from Texas with a Polish name was pretty amazing. Well now I know CS is what the MD from Ohio was speaking of and it is too late for my Mom but there are so many to help by having a generator. All the input will be very well appreciated! Thank You -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
I read that Microhydrin or its generic counterpart (cheaper) Nanohydrate when dissolved in water will produce microwater that is the same or superior to electrolysis produced microwater (alkaline water). Dennis Lipter Charles Marcus wrote: In a message dated 99-07-10 06:32:20 EDT, you write: Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate will also do this work. I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
Where can this nanohydrate be found? Tom ---BeginMessage--- I read that Microhydrin or its generic counterpart (cheaper) Nanohydrate when dissolved in water will produce microwater that is the same or superior to electrolysis produced microwater (alkaline water). Dennis Lipter Charles Marcus wrote: In a message dated 99-07-10 06:32:20 EDT, you write: Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate will also do this work. I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSRe: l-tryptophan
Tryptophan is one of the essential amino acids found in foods. It is not an artificial chemical. Supplements of most of the essential amino acids such as phenylalanine, arginine, lysine, etc. are available at health food stores and some are alleged to have therapeutic properties. Many years ago tryptophan supplements were sold as an aid for anxiety/insomnia and from my point of view were equally effective as artificial chemicals in Sominex and other products which were subsequently banned as carcinogenic (The brand sominex no longer contains methylpyrilene maleate) Unfortunately a few people got a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder (eosinophilia) from a batch of Tryptophan which I believe was made in Mexico. Although from my point of view this reaction was due to some impurity in the process, the FDA inexplicably banned tryptophan for human consumption. Guess there is not enough profit in a natural product to run through the FDA testing program and get it back on the market. -Original Message- From: jneno...@aol.com jneno...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 7:01 PM Subject: CSRe: l-tryptophan Be very careful with l-tryptophan, I took it 10 or so years ago when I was in college and recall it made me feel funny--unfortunately with this lyme brain I can't recall how, but my Mom just reminded me we had trouble with it. I seem to recall it had to do with memory loss g--no really, I am serious. Susan L In a message dated 99-07-10 09:42:04 EDT, you write: 2) Some people might be interested to learn that L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you have a depressed dog or cat. would this be the same l-tryptophan that is created when one warms up their milk? James Vernon, Allison Allison's Apothecary It is pharmaceutical grade L-Tryptophan, the same stuff you used to buy in capsules in the health food store before it was unlawfully banned by the FDA. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: l-tryptophan
Bill Schramm wrote: Tryptophan is one of the essential amino acids found in foods. It is not an artificial chemical. Supplements of most of the essential amino acids such as phenylalanine, arginine, lysine, etc. are available at health food stores and some are alleged to have therapeutic properties. Many years ago tryptophan supplements were sold as an aid for anxiety/insomnia and from my point of view were equally effective as artificial chemicals in Sominex and other products which were subsequently banned as carcinogenic (The brand sominex no longer contains methylpyrilene maleate) Unfortunately a few people got a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder (eosinophilia) from a batch of Tryptophan which I believe was made in Mexico. Although from my point of view this reaction was due to some impurity in the process, the FDA inexplicably banned tryptophan for human consumption. I beleie the offending product was made in Japan. At any rate they had just changed their process, and a chemical they were using in the extraction was being left in the product. This toxic impurity was what was causing the problem. Guess there is not enough profit in a natural product to run through the FDA testing program and get it back on the market. Since it is a natural product, testing should not be necessary. I think the problem is that it is not patentable, so it is cheaper and safer solution to the patented chemicals that are marketed by big companies. Just like CS. Outlawing it was an illegal act by FDA as far as I can tell. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: l-tryptophan
Unfortunately a few people got a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder (eosinophilia) from a batch of Tryptophan which I believe was made in Mexico. Although from my point of view this reaction was due to some impurity in the process, the FDA inexplicably banned tryptophan for human consumption. It was the Showa Denko corporation in Japan, and the problem was traced to the fact that they changed three major parts of the production process. There is no doubt that it was CONTAMINATION that caused the problems, and NOT L-Tryptophan itself. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAlkaline quick fix...
Hi Vilik, Norman Walker, author of Fresh Vegatables and Fruit Juices swears by a glass or two a day of fresh celery juice. He tells a story of living in the hot Arizona climate, and he and his wife always felt comfortable while his friends were miserable in the heat. Would be worth a try if you have a juicer. Sweating in San Jose, Diana -- From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org I need help...FAST. This heat is knocking me out. Anybody got a quick fix? I think getting more alkaline fast would help. Any ideas besides lemons? Please...I am drooping badly V i l i k -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSRe: l-tryptophan
Inexplicably? It works, is reasonably priced, and competes with products the FDA is agent to promote. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Bill Schramm [SMTP:wschr...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSRe: l-tryptophan Tryptophan is one of the essential amino acids found in foods. It is not an artificial chemical. Supplements of most of the essential amino acids such as phenylalanine, arginine, lysine, etc. are available at health food stores and some are alleged to have therapeutic properties. Many years ago tryptophan supplements were sold as an aid for anxiety/insomnia and from my point of view were equally effective as artificial chemicals in Sominex and other products which were subsequently banned as carcinogenic (The brand sominex no longer contains methylpyrilene maleate) Unfortunately a few people got a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder (eosinophilia) from a batch of Tryptophan which I believe was made in Mexico. Although from my point of view this reaction was due to some impurity in the process, the FDA inexplicably banned tryptophan for human consumption. Guess there is not enough profit in a natural product to run through the FDA testing program and get it back on the market. -Original Message- From: jneno...@aol.com jneno...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 7:01 PM Subject: CSRe: l-tryptophan Be very careful with l-tryptophan, I took it 10 or so years ago when I was in college and recall it made me feel funny--unfortunately with this lyme brain I can't recall how, but my Mom just reminded me we had trouble with it. I seem to recall it had to do with memory loss g--no really, I am serious. Susan L In a message dated 99-07-10 09:42:04 EDT, you write: 2) Some people might be interested to learn that L-Tryptophan is available from the same kinds of sources - just be sure and DON'T tell them you are buying it for your OWN consumption. Just tell them you have a depressed dog or cat. would this be the same l-tryptophan that is created when one warms up their milk? James Vernon, Allison Allison's Apothecary It is pharmaceutical grade L-Tryptophan, the same stuff you used to buy in capsules in the health food store before it was unlawfully banned by the FDA. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSQuestion for Katarina
I think you said you were using 200 ppm nasal spray 500 ppm CS for your sinus infection. Where do you get those? This is the one thing that is still plaguing me, these @#...@$% sinus infections. Thanks. Sheila -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
Go to Http://www.genericvitamins.com/index.html . If you punch in nanohydrate in to dogpile.com or google.com you will find many sources for nanohydrate. Dennis Lipter Tom Trauberman wrote: Where can this nanohydrate be found? Tom Subject: Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer? Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:56:57 -0700 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:56:27 -0400 From: Dennis Lipter dlip...@accesshub.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com References: 199907120533.baa13...@avana.net I read that Microhydrin or its generic counterpart (cheaper) Nanohydrate when dissolved in water will produce microwater that is the same or superior to electrolysis produced microwater (alkaline water). Dennis Lipter Charles Marcus wrote: In a message dated 99-07-10 06:32:20 EDT, you write: Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate will also do this work. I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. -- Charles Marcus -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
In a message dated 7/12/99 4:14:51 PM Central Daylight Time, dlip...@accesshub.net writes: Drinking Alkaline water to remove acid wastes (including uric acid) will dissolve some of the calcium phosphate deposits and allow the ionic calcium to be reabsorbed into the bones, potassium bicarbonate will also do this work. Is this similiar to Clustered Water?? edith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRe: MSM and DMSO
Hello Terry. In answer to your inquiry, I offer the following: DMSO was isolated by a Russian named Alexander Saytzeff, in 1866. The real seminal work with this substance was conducted by two Americans; Stanley W. Jacob, M.D., and Robert J Herschler (former Applications Research for the Chemical Products Division of Crown Zellerbach Corp., Camas, Washington (circa 1960-1971). Without going into great and/or excruiating detail, I will simply say that; to my knowledge NO HUMAN BEING HAS EVER DIED AS A DIRECT RESULT OF TOXICITY FROM DMSO! I am familiar with dozens of inuendos, spins, slanted journalism, etc., articles in the alleopathic press outletsbut not one actual, proveable, documented case involving a post-mortem substantiation. Do understand, we do not have access to all of the medical journal literature, world-wide, but to a large part thereof. Only one case of published documentation, so-called...have I seen personally. It was a reference in Lancet, the respected British journal; and the article claimed that an Irish woman had died of complications caused by the use of DMSO. Strangely, however, there was no corroborating medical documentation of an objective nature. Dr. Jacob was involved directly, and indirectly, in observing the effects of DMSO onliterallythousands of patients. He reports NOT A SINGLE CASE of toxic-induced death. Actually, he reported NO CASES of toxic reactionat allfrom the DMSO itself. I am totally bewildered by the, almost, total absence of knowledge by the lay-public, about what DMSO ACTUALLY IS and what its mechanism of action isand its TRACK RECORD as a benign substance in a --SOLITARY--setting. There are a number of books on DMSO; one by Dr. William C. Douglass, M.D. is quite good. However, the most informative (but somewhat dated in portions) is a 1973 publication, The Persecuted Drug--The Story of DMSO , by Pat McGrady, Sr. The book can, frequently, be found at Half-Priced book stores and is well worth readingit is well-written, accurately informative and well-documented. It will reveal the true---and complete---history of DMSO up to 1973. Due to continuing institutionalized resistance since that time, very little constructive research has transpired within the conventional medical community (NONE). It is difficult for me to be completely objective about this situation, as my feelings become quite visceral when I reflect upon the past occurrences/treatment of this substanceand its derivations..by the FDA, AMA, The Captive Press, etc. I make no personal recommendations as to the efficacy of DMSO, MSM, or related compounds; but will inform you that in nearly 35 years of use, both in vitro and in vivo, on a wide variety of mammals.including myself.I have never observed ANY toxic reactions directly attributable to DMSO as a stand-alone substance. It can, however, enhance the toxicity of other substances, simply because of its nature as a superb transporter/solvent/surface-tension reducer and organic emulsifier. Our research has indicated that the mode of operation for DMSO and MSM is identical. Additionally, the purity standards are identical for veterinary and human useages. We use it on our animals, both externally and internallyprimarily as a carrier for other substances and in joint-lubricant enhancing protocols. A departing admonition, if I maythe next time someone relates an off-hand, sidewalk-consultation about ANY controversial substance, just ask them to produce the data or to identify their source..in some detail. You will, in most cases, be met with a deafening wall of silence. Please forgive the over-kill in my response; but this, particular, subject does strike a nerve in my psyche. I do hope there is some useful information within this epistle. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. Terry Wayne wrote: Brooks, I can get DMSO from a local feed store, but they expressed concern about what I was doing with it, since it is so toxic. Are there concerns about DMSO? Is MSM safer? (I'll bet it's not cheaper!) Why do the feed stores sell it? How would I use it on my animals? Thanks, Terry Wayne _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSinus Infection
need advice...I was going to buy CS at local health food store. should I rinse the sinuses with a solution including CS or ingest it ? Can someone recommend the proper ratio of CS to water and other ingredients if a rinse is recommended ? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?/bought one
In a message dated 99-07-12 01:35:01 EDT, you write: I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. I bought one today. It runs on 120V, looks like a big coffee maker and has two compartments -- one on the left and one on the right -- separated by a diaphragm that is white and porous and leaves a chalky substance on the fingers when rubbed. On the acidic side, there are two long electrodes, about 1/3 diameter made of ferrite. On the alkaline side, there are two made of stainless steel. The machine has a four liter capacity and makes PH alkaline between 9-10 in about 10-15 minutes. A phenylthaline (sp?) solution was supposed to have been enclosed for testing PH but the little bottle was empty. The only thing that for sure didn't work was the water spout! I made the ionized water and depressed the alkaline knob to get water from the spout and nothing happened. Same on the other side. I emptied the water and looked underneath. There was a lock knob for each spout. I turned them to unlock and tried the tab levers again. The plastic pieces that they move to press and release the water both broke. It's as if the plastic is ancient. I mentioned before that this ionizer and another were both collecting dust in the shop. I plan to return the device tomorrow and try the other one. If it is ancient too, I'll ask them to order a new one. They said they can order more. It appears to be a nice, well-made machine.. just old. The spout mechanisms appear to be the weakest link in the chain. So, does this sound like a real water ionizer? I have no experience with them whatsoever. Samm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?/bought one
Stainless Steel No, Platinum Yes. SS is too reactive. I am not an expert yet but this is what I gleaned so far. Dennis Lipter samma...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 99-07-12 01:35:01 EDT, you write: I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. Would this be a good thing to have? Sound like a good price? I can research this, I just thought I'd ask here first. Thanks. Samm The only one I have seen is over $1,000 bucks, so either this is a GREAT deal, or it is junk. I bought one today. It runs on 120V, looks like a big coffee maker and has two compartments -- one on the left and one on the right -- separated by a diaphragm that is white and porous and leaves a chalky substance on the fingers when rubbed. On the acidic side, there are two long electrodes, about 1/3 diameter made of ferrite. On the alkaline side, there are two made of stainless steel. The machine has a four liter capacity and makes PH alkaline between 9-10 in about 10-15 minutes. A phenylthaline (sp?) solution was supposed to have been enclosed for testing PH but the little bottle was empty. The only thing that for sure didn't work was the water spout! I made the ionized water and depressed the alkaline knob to get water from the spout and nothing happened. Same on the other side. I emptied the water and looked underneath. There was a lock knob for each spout. I turned them to unlock and tried the tab levers again. The plastic pieces that they move to press and release the water both broke. It's as if the plastic is ancient. I mentioned before that this ionizer and another were both collecting dust in the shop. I plan to return the device tomorrow and try the other one. If it is ancient too, I'll ask them to order a new one. They said they can order more. It appears to be a nice, well-made machine.. just old. The spout mechanisms appear to be the weakest link in the chain. So, does this sound like a real water ionizer? I have no experience with them whatsoever. Samm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSSinus Infection
need advice...I was going to buy CS at local health food store. should I rinse the sinuses with a solution including CS or ingest it ? Can someone recommend the proper ratio of CS to water and other ingredients if a rinse is recommended ? You can do both! My friend uses a saline sprayer to spritz CS into her nostrils, she reports it is really helping! Taking some internally will help boost the immune system so that you won`t have any more infections, and even allergies are much improved. I used to really suffer with allergies, not any more! If you`d like to make your own CS it is really easy, and is a LOT cheaper, a few cents a gallon versus 20 bucks for a 4 ounce bottle. Here`s how: Get 4 nine-volt batteries, (lithiums last 4 times longer than alkalines, if you can afford the initial expense, about 28 bucks.) 2 pairs of alligator clips, (each pair is connected by a wire) 2 five inch long pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge 2 cups of distilled water a glass measuring cup, to measure and make in the same cup a water bottle to store the CS in. (I usually have silver wire to sell, at cost, for 5 bucks. I`ll need an address if you want some, or I can send the phone number of the jewelry supplier I use. They only sell by the ounce.) Rinse the cup and storage bottle with distilled water (dw) to get rid of any dust, soap residue or whatever. Measure out 2 cups of dw. Connect the four batteries together, top to top. Connect the silver wires to the batteries using the clips. Drop the silver wires into the water. Keep them about 1 inch apart, about the distance of the handle on the cup. Let it sit about one hour total. If you get a silver oxide buildup, wipe it off with a paper towel. Any that drops into the water is harmless. You will see bubbles on one wire, the oxides on the other, and maybe you`ll see the faint golden clouds forming, that is the colloid! Pour the finished CS into the storage bottle. Take a swallow a day as a preventive, three for an active infection. Use topically too; in the eyes it is mild and really stops the itchiness of hay fever. If you have any questions, please let me know. I`m really glad to help!! Marsha in Vallejo -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS5 min copper colloid ??
Anyone tried making this in a microwave ?? Reading about laser ablationand not having a laser, the best bombardment method to hand was a microwave, wound a small coil of copper 1.5ml dia wire, about 8 inchs long 1/2in spacing put in small jar boiled on low for 10 min. many bubbles come from the wire at this point, lovely clean wire, Found copper particles on the bottom of the jar, no visible copper in the water, question how do i test the ppm of copper coloid ?? anyone know ? _P Yanko -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?/bought one
So, does this sound like a real water ionizer? I have no experience with them whatsoever. Samm ~~~ I guess the proof in the pudding will be checking the water to see the pH. ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSsinus infections
Hi Sheila, the products I used were made by Innovative Natural Products and they have them at almost every health food store here in LA. I don't know if I believe that they really had the high ppm they say they do - but they sure worked fast. The nasal spray is called Silver Aloe and I just sprayed it every hour or so for a day - although I have since been told to take a dropperful of the liquid CS and put it in each nostril with your head upside down by your knees so that it will drain into your frontal sinuses. I've started doing that since I'm convinced that a colony of yeasties living in my sinuses and ears is part of why my candida just won't leave completely. I also have been putting a few drops in my eyes in the morning before I pout my lenses in and my eyes have stopped itching. And I'm putting some in my ears as well and they no longer feel like they are oozing from inside. So we'll see what happens -- but I am very impressed. I think if you can't find the one I used, just get a good higher ppm one and if necessary emty out a glass nasal spray bottle, preferably of the pump type - or put the dropperfuls in your nose. I have a friend who just cleared up a six month sinus infection in less than a week just by spraying some 40ppm solution into her nose for a couple of days. Oh yeah, the other thing that worked dramatically for me was to hold the liquid cs on my tongue against the roof of my mouth until I could feel my sinuses clearing. Let me know how it works for you and good luck! Ex chronic sinusitis sufferer - Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS[CS] DMSO as transport mech
sorry, no idea. -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: Re: CS[CS] DMSO as transport mech Bill Schramm wrote: One oxygen atom can make a lot of difference sometimes. For example carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide -- one is vital for life and the other a deadly poison. However, this doesn't explain the difference in regulation between MSM and DMSO. I believe DMSO can be quite dangerous because of its ability to transport substances through the skin. Some chemists working with insecticides got seriously poisoned when some insecticide dissolved in DMSO got on their hands. If you use it, both your hands and the area you are applying it to must be clean and it must be uncontaminated. Anyway, no idea about regulations. I am a chemist not a politician. CE stands for (in this case) chemical engineering, but of course CE is also the European equivalent of the FCC. IUPAC is international union of pure and applied chemists I understand DMSO being used as a carrier to carry compounds that dissolve in it. But I see that people here are using it with CS. Since CS does not dissolve in DMSO, I don't see how it could act as a transport agent. Can it transport colloids as well? Since you are a chemist I thought maybe you would know. Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer?
The chemistry is fairly simple. Water naturally ionizes into H+ and OH- ions. When electric current is passed through water, the H+ ions are attracted to the - electrode and the OH- ions to the + electrode. If you configure the reaction chamber into two parts with some form of semi permeable barrier to prevent gross mixing, one side will become enriched in OH- (alkaline) and the other side enriched in H+ (acid.) -Original Message- From: alial...@aol.com alial...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CSCalcium deposits/water ionizer? In a message dated 7/10/99 11:10:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, samma...@aol.com writes: I found a water ionizer at a Korean Food Store for $59. The box says one side of the machine (which looks somewhat like a coffee maker) makes acidic water and the other makes alkaline. What could be the chemistry of this??? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSNo Subject
Dear everyone experienced in the making of CS -- HELP!! I have a number of questions about making my own CS. I've been following the particle size/color/water heating controversies and still am not sure what I should be doing. My first batch ofCS did not help with my sinus infection - while the storebought one cleared it up right away - so I must be doing something wrong. I am concerned that my particles are too big to absorb properly.The makers of my machine say that at 20 minutes you should have 3-5ppm sol of .0005 to .015 microns How do I find out the size of the particles - without buying expensive machinery? The solution had Tyndall effect - but can anyone explain how thick or bright the beam should be -- or what variations might tell you something about your solution? Anyhow, I tried making four different batches, using two different distilled waters and doing one each with boiled water that had cooled slightly and the other with room temperature unboiled, and here's what I got. (Oh yeah, I'm using the Beck's silver pulser which is a 27 volt DC machine made by Sota and I used 16 ounces of water and put two tablespoons of my last batch of CS in each as a starter. I ran them all for 25 minutes.) The room temperature solutions were both colorless with a very slight white cloudiness. The next morning they were clear and there was a small ring of white precipitate at the bottom of the glass. Is this a silver salt and therefore an indication that the solution is not pure because the water isn't pure? It happened with both distilled waters. One of them had a brighter Tyndall than the other. Does that mean it is stronger? The solutions which I made with boiled water (allowed to cool so that it wouldn't break the glass - but still steaming) are amber colored and clear. They had no precipitate in the morning, but a lot of sludge on the electrodes when making it and left a dark stain in the bottom of the glass and colored the glass slightly. I can't tell if their Tyndall is slightly weaker or if it is just that they are darker colored. When I boiled the water there was a white residue inside the porcelain tea kettle which I had carefully cleaned with distilled water before use. While making the boiled one I checked Tyndall as it went along and there didn't start to be any tyndall until 20 minutes, then it built up fast. So which are the better solutions and what is the best way to make it? Which one would have the smallest particle size? And how do I figure out how strong it is - Is it Robert who can test it and how do I send it to you? Any help at all on this would be appreciated because I am definitely confused. On the one hand it sounds as if clear is smaller particle size - but on the other hand it sounds as if cloudy and precipitte is exactly what you don't want because of silver salts. And I don't know how to produce clear without precipitate. The original solution which I used which didn't do much was very light amber and clear and was made with boiling - but I didn't have a laser at the time to check for Tyndall. Oh yes, and if I want to make more than 16 ounces at a time do I just double the time I take while I double the amount of water? Or will that imbalance something. anyhow, thank you all again. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMSM ...Danger?
Nancy, I don't know, I just read it in the paper. Mega MSM has all the safe, natural relief you've been praying for. It has given me a whole new life Qoute from Coburn.Perhaps when the fingers get crooked they can't come back to normal. I will give it a try anyway along with Cat's Claw. janet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS[CS] DMSO as transport mech
Thanks Reid, will do that too. How about a potassium supplement? janet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSSilver Safety
Dear Ivan, thanks so much for your response to my concerns about the safety of CS. As I reread it I picture you standing on steel girders high above some city sniffing CS and it somehow makes you seem very qualified to speak about safety! :-) Jokes aside, your answer ws very helpfuland Ithink I finally am understanding that although there is nothing proving the safety of CS, a lot of people seem to have used it without harm for a long time and that the agyria thing is scare tactics because it isn't possible with colloids. I don't know yet whether I will take it on a regular basis as a preventative or supplement because, like Terry, I am always leery of upsetting balances that I don't understand -- but I am absolutely joyful at finally having found a way to stop sinus infections without antibiotics - and I think it will make huge difference in my life in the long run. As you see in my other post, I'm still having problems making my own CS, and wondered where you get your purified water which you sid was made by McGraw Biomed. Do Pharmacies sell it? Anyhow, thanks a lot for your help - and I would love any responses you might have to my previous post and questions about making the CS. Take care, Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSInfo on CS
This is for anyone new to this subject of CS who could use more information on it. Someone has put together an extremely informative digest of information on CS which answered a lot of my questions (and of course, raised new ones!) It can be found at the Candida Forum at www.healthyawareness.com/candida under the articles section. And thanks a million to Taylor, who I think suggested it to me. Katarina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS[CS] home made vs store bought
In a message dated 7/D/YY 8:26:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sonic-internatio...@worldnet.att.net writes: I started making my own using a CS PRO PHASER PRO HVAC system. The solution is clear, very slight yellow, supposed to be 10 - 12 ppm and has the tyndall effect, but does not seem to work nearly as well as the other. Any idea's or comments? Thanks Is this the Unit from CsPro? Was it from the lower end in the price range? Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS[CS] home made vs store bought
Starting using GLACIAL'S FINEST 5ppm GNC purchased CS and found it worked great for my stomach bacteria and boosted my energy levels and lessened my allergy and sinus problems by 80%. I started making my own using a CS PRO PHASER PRO HVAC system. The solution is clear, very slight yellow, supposed to be 10 - 12 ppm and has the tyndall effect, but does not seem to work nearly as well as the other. Any idea's or comments? Thanks Mike
Re: CSRe: l-tryptophan
Unfortunately a few people got a rare and potentially fatal blood disorder (eosinophilia) from a batch of Tryptophan which I believe was made in Mexico. It was from Japan. Company's name escapes me. (can't pronouce it or spell it). They were a food additives company, and not a pharmacutical company. They were the worst poluters in Japan (they were the one that dumped all that mercury in a bay resulting of tremendous birth defects of people that ate the local fish). They reduced the amount of post production filtering (not a radical step) and used a different strain of bacteria to make the tryptophan more efficienctly (not a radical step). However the result was an unwanted chemical in the batch that caused the problems. Note: ONLY the US banned tryptophan, guess what prescription medication that substitiuted for tryptophan got rave reviews and magazine articles, talk show buzz, etc. within weeks of the ban? Same prescription drug that a goodly number of people that go postal were on.(Columbine etc.) What a coincidence eh? Love that FDA.. -- Webpage back again at http://home.earthlink.net/~kenseger A small collection of fundamental survival texts. If you email me make subject ***PRIVATE *** so I'll notice it kense...@earthlink.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
