Re: CS>Re: Dust Mites
Sam Earle wrote: > Dust mites don't cause dust; people cause dust. Mites eat dust. Dust is 90 > percent dead skin cells and hair fragments, which is protein on which dust > mites feed. The rest of Marshall's statement is correct - dust mites excrete > toxins that irritate some people's airways and cause allergic reactions. I have researched this and found that you are indeed correct. Apparently I confused the idea that their excretement is IN dust with that it IS dust many many years ago. Thanks for straightening me out on that. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tyndall?
binsm...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:19:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, > ck...@global2000.net writes: > > > My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows > > tyndall > > without sparklies. > What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it > something I can detect without fancy equipment? > Nellie The equipment needed is very high tech. Howerver, it is also very cheap. Buy a $15 laser pointer from Best Buy, Walgreens or wherever else you find one and shine the laser through your CS. You should see the beam as it passes through the CS. It can give you the warm fuzzy feeling that you do have a colloid there, even if you really can't tell much about how strong it is. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Melting Silver
Check on gold mining. One of the most used techniques for removing gold from ore is to dissolve it in mercury, then boil the mercury off, leaving gold. Mercury can also dissolve silver and in the right proportions, is used to fill teeth. When mercury is mixed with gold or silver it is called an amalgam. See http://ukdb.web.aol.com/hutchinson/encyclopedia/00/M0016400.htm: "Amalgamation, the process of forming an amalgam, is a technique sometimes used to extract gold and silver from their ores. The ores are ground to a fine sand and brought into contact with mercury, which dissolves the gold and silver particles. The amalgam is then heated to distil the mercury, leaving a residue of silver and gold. The mercury is recovered and reused. Almagamation to extract gold from its ore has been in use since Roman times." Marshall Trem Williams wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > Hate to be argumentative but gold will NOT dissolve in mercury. > > Trem > > - Original Message - > From: Marshall Dudley > To: > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Melting Silver > > > Charles King wrote: > > > > > Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F. > > > I don't see how any contamination would occur. > > > > The same way that gold will dissolve in mercury at room temperature, or > sugar > > in water. Once the silver is liquid other metals can dissolve in it at > > temperatures far below their melting point. > > > > Marshall > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>Totally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit
l tried to view this but it wouldnt open for me..alll l got was hieroglyphics. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Totally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit
what was this? could you tell us what it is we are downloading..it would be nice to know this before we download it. thanks inga. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>wet chem
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > Is there a reference that details the procedure? > I would like to try it to see what happens. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:47 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>wet chem > > James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > > > Hi Marshall, > > > > Bruce Marx and a tech rep from Hach had different results with that > > process. Digestion produced wildly unreliable results. The process done > > without was consistently y accurate. I do not know what analysis they used > > to verify this. > > The digestion that Bruce had poor results with is using the Hach digestall, a > very expensive piece of equipment that Hack talked him into buying, and then > had to take back. It is known that this equipment produces bad results. The > digestion I am talking about is nothing more than dissolving the silver in > boiling nitric acid, then neutralizing with Sodium Hydroxide to produce silver > nitrate. > > Marshall This is the method given to me by Hach after going back and forth a few time, and the one I am using: Sorry for the oversight on the HCl digestion method. We do have a silver digestion method using only nitric acid. The procedure to do a digestion of a silver sample is as follows. 1) Transfer 50 ml of sample to 150 ml beaker and add 2 ml of conc. Nitric Acid 2) Place beaker on hot plate and cautiously evaporate to dryness 3) Cool the beaker and then add another 2 ml of Nitric Acid. Cover the beaker with a watch glass and return to hot plate. 4) Continue heating with gentle refluxing to near dryness. 5) Cool the beaker then add 2.5 ml of 1:1 Nitric Acid. Warm the beaker to dissolve any residue from the evaporation steps. 6) Wash down beaker walls and watch glass with demineralized water. Filter the sample through filter paper into a 50 ml volumetric flask. (If thiosulfate is present in sample see note) 7) Add 2 drops each of Phenolphthalein Indicator and Thymolphthalein Indicator solution. Add Sodium Hydroxide until soultion is pink in color. A purple color indicates pH of 10. If this is the case add one drop of 1:1 Nitric Acid then 2 drops each of the indicator solutions. Repeat the addition of the Sodium Hydoxide to the pink color. NOTE: If thiosulfate is present, add 4 ml of 50% Hydrogen Peroxide in place of the concentrated Nitric acid in step 1. Continue with steps 2 through 8. (Taken from DR100 for Silver Instrument Manual) Technical Support Specialist Hach Company P.O. Box 389 Loveland, CO 80539 Phone in the U.S.A.: 800-227-4224 Phone International: 970-669-3050 FAX: 970-669-2932 E-Mail: techh...@hach.com www.hach.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now I know why...
Marsha, Have you tried the H202 in the ears...I've suggested to friends and am getting good reports. God Bless You, Jeff K1LE East Lyme CT Marsha Hallett wrote: > Dear Listers, > Today my intrepid son went to get me some Comtrex for my nasty cough, and a > set of fresh batteries. He even made up the new CS for me. > I just poured my old batch into a clear glass. It is clear, NO Tyndall! > New batch is golden with distinct Tyndall. > Now I know why I just spent a miserable 10 days in spite of slugging down > lots of what I thought was CS... `twas nought but distilled water. snip -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Now I know why...
Dear Listers, Today my intrepid son went to get me some Comtrex for my nasty cough, and a set of fresh batteries. He even made up the new CS for me. I just poured my old batch into a clear glass. It is clear, NO Tyndall! New batch is golden with distinct Tyndall. Now I know why I just spent a miserable 10 days in spite of slugging down lots of what I thought was CS... `twas nought but distilled water. And now I have a nice new ventral hernia from all the coughing...sigh. Moral of the story: Fresh batteries, often. Love to you all! Marsha PS, Anyone know of a good surgeon in the Bay Area?? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
Hello listers, The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that the little bugger won't eat pellets. He flat out refuses. I have tried mixing them with banana, applesauce, sprinkling them on his lettuce, as well as trying to syringe feed them to him. All to no avail. So I have kept him on Romaine and collards, wheat breat, rolled oats, a piece of an apple, and shredded wheat cereal. I have started him on vitamins, but still don't now how to get his diet balanced. Does anyone have any rabbit knowledge? I am going to use colloidal silver for the pasteurella (bunny cold) in his eyes, and am thinking about using C.S. as a nasal spray for his nose but am concerned about the C.S. getting to his mouth and from there to his digestive system. His health is kinda fragile right now, so I need to be careful and stick to tried and true remedies. Thankyou for your thoughts. Cindy Dear Cindy, How about feeding alfalfa hay? Mine loved it. I`d get him off the bread because of the yeast. Give him more hard veggies; carrots, jicamas, and the like. They need to chew, so give him something wooden to gnaw on. The do need access to their dung, they rechew it. Yucky to us, but it is a normal rabbit thing to do. Have you checked for a rabbit newsgroup? Marsha
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
Gold may readily combine with mercury, as does silver, but the only substance known to Man that will dissolve gold is aqua regia. Sam > i think that it does. that's why miners use mercry to seperate gold > from sand and crushed ore. > > Dennis > > 51/50 > 24/7 > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Amelia/FAQ
Hey Amelia, I'm sorry to tell you that the FAQ I was referring to is one I am compiling about uses for CS. Now if only someone would do the same for all the little questions about making CS! If you ask again, maybe Mike will post the other FAQ which refers you to some articles which might be helpful, but doesn't address any issues itself. Take care, Katarina PS. As far as I can tell it is not that easy to determine the strength of your CS at home - althoug some of the more technically minded seem to be cooking up some possibilities which I don't fully understand yet. Follow allong and you'll see. For now the best way is to standardize your process, and then you can send samples to be tested. Fred Peschel from this list very kindly offers that service for free - if you do a search on the archives you can probably find the information on how to send to him -- I don't know where I have it. One final thing though is that no-one really knows what criterion makes CS most effective -- ie: whether particle size or ppm are more important. You can tell if you've got a lot of particles in your solution if you shine a pocketsize laser pointer through it and see a good strong tyndall beam -- but if the particles are small enough you might have a lot of them and not have them show because they are too small. And some of us think smaller is probably a lot more effective -- but it's all quite complicated. Good luck, Katarina > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:42:24 CST > From: "Amelia Edgeman" > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Re:FAQ/Jo/Thanks > Message-ID: <1999174224.1735.qm...@hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi, Group, > My name is Amelia and I am a newbie/lurker. Where can I access this FAQ > list and is there a website to save my asking questions that have already > been discussed? One that is troubling me at present is how do I know the > strength of the CS I make. I have an inexpensive home generator. My second > batch seems much stronger and is darker than my first but I thought I made > them exactly the same way. > Amelia > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)
So does this mean it is ok to melt silver on a stainless steel surface? Someone mentioned pyrex. Would that take the heat without cracking? I tried a glazed ceramic tile and ended up with broken-tile-silver-soup! Jeff (How will you spend eternity -- Smoking or Nonsmoking?) Trem Williams wrote: > Sorry Dennis but you're wrong too. The miners used mercury to amalgamate > the gold. That means to make the gold stick to the mercury or vice versa. > They would rub a generous amount of mercury on clean copper sheets and place > the sheets in their sluice boxes. When the gravel, sand, mud and water > passed through the box, the gold and any noble metals would stick to the > plate. At the end of the day they would then remove the plate and use a > squeegee to wipe the gold and other metals stuck to the mercury off the > plate. They would then wring the mercury out through a sheet of chamois. > The mercury would pass through the chamois leaving the metal in an > amalgamated lump in the chamois. They would then drive the mercury off the > lump by using heat and what was left was the metal that had been trapped in > the mercury. They then separated the gold from other metals using different > techniques. One of the basic ones was to heat the metal lump in a crucible > with some antimony. Antimony is called the wolf in alchemical terms. That > is because it eats all metals EXCEPT gold. It flies off in the form of > dense white smoke and carries all metals except gold with it. The gold left > behind is considered pure. If there was a lot of silver in the mix, they > would use other processes to get it and would not use antimony because the > silver would be lost. But if there was little metal other than gold, the > antimony process was favored for it's simplicity. > > Gold and all noble metals stick to mercury; they do not dissolve in mercury. > They can always be > separated from mercury by heat. It's called distillation if you recover the > mercury. It's called > "flashing off" if you let the mercury go into the atmosphere. > > Hope this clears the subject up to your satisfaction.
RE: CS>silver
Hello Wong, Can you tell us why you do not want to use silver now? Thank you, James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: t...@home.com [SMTP:t...@home.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 3:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>silver << File: ATT4.txt; charset = x-user-defined >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>silver
Trust if the CS is working for you, thats all that really matters. Ted wong...@aol.com wrote: > > I have doubts about CS now. Anyone want some used silver wires? > wong > > In a message dated 11/11/1999 7:54:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, a...@trail.com > writes: > > << Did you recommend colloidal silver? > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: ejohns9...@aol.com [SMTP:ejohns9...@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:08 PM > To:silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>silver > > In a message dated 11/11/99 11:43:36 AM Central Standard Time, > donna2...@aol.com writes: > > << Edith, > I just spoke with Marsha and she is down for the count. The flu or > something has her. So if you don't here from her right away you know why. > Donna > >>> > Oh, Oh looks like CS order of the day. > > Thanks Donna. > Edith > >> > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>silver
oops. gold canyon, az. 85219!!! Not 85212!!! Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>silver
i do. 6601 E.hwy 60 #220 Gold Canyon, Az. 85212 Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I have doubts about CS now. Anyone want some used silver wires? wong In a message dated 11/11/1999 7:54:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, a...@trail.com writes: << Did you recommend colloidal silver? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: ejohns9...@aol.com [SMTP:ejohns9...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:08 PM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>silver In a message dated 11/11/99 11:43:36 AM Central Standard Time, donna2...@aol.com writes: << Edith, I just spoke with Marsha and she is down for the count. The flu or something has her. So if you don't here from her right away you know why. Donna >> Oh, Oh looks like CS order of the day. Thanks Donna. Edith >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- End Message ---
Re: CS>silver
I have doubts about CS now. Anyone want some used silver wires? wong In a message dated 11/11/1999 7:54:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, a...@trail.com writes: << Did you recommend colloidal silver? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: ejohns9...@aol.com [SMTP:ejohns9...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:08 PM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>silver In a message dated 11/11/99 11:43:36 AM Central Standard Time, donna2...@aol.com writes: << Edith, I just spoke with Marsha and she is down for the count. The flu or something has her. So if you don't here from her right away you know why. Donna >> Oh, Oh looks like CS order of the day. Thanks Donna. Edith >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tyndall?
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:04:54 -0800, Lee wrote: >So Chuck or anyone, what is that "recipe and time window for the 3 >battery system?" approximately: 1 14 oz beer glass 2 14 gauge 6" .999 fine silver wire 3 9v batteries snapped or wired in series 2 clip leads distilled water from the grocers Almost fill the glass with distilled water. Bend the wire to form clips, and clip to the edge of the glass about 2-3 inches apart. Do this the same way every time for consistency on your runs. Connect the battery pack to the silver wires with the clip leads. (only silver goes in the water) Read a book or meditate navel for 45 minutes. Done! Wipe off everything with a paper towel and put it away. Anything you add is research, convenience, invention or fun! You're on your own!!! Chuck I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's one called "brightness," but it doesn't work. > I am using 12 oz dw plus 2 oz seed for a total of >14oz, silver wires one inch apart and about 3-3 1/2 inches submerged, a >stirrer and dmm and stop when I reach 4- 4.5 on the meter measurement of >current/per Ole Bob. The time seems to vary with the temperature and >which dw I use and for other reasons I can not determine. My run times >have gone from 1 and 1/2 hr to 2 and 1/2hrs. Any thoughts or comments? >My Tyndall's are getting stronger of late and I don't know why. >sparkles are far and few between. Isn't stirring supposed to keep >particle size down? > >Would love comments on all this. >Lee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>silver
Rabbits eat "rabbit pellets" any how. It's called cophragry, or something like that. (just an interesting little factiod for those who "want to know" Sparrow >You could probably replenish the rabbit's flora with a few ground rabbit pellets in with his rabbit pellets. >James Osbourne Holmes >a...@trail.com > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>THANKS- Bruce Stenulson located...
Dear List; Thanks for all of your help finding Bruce Stenulson. Someone just let me know that they found him and I am finally in contact. Thanks so much to all of you. God Bless. Dr. P. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Need Help. Looking for Bruce Stenulson EMEM2
Dear List; Long time no hear from. A storm took out our computers, yes even with MGE backups!! Moved to Hawaii. Wish you all could be here with the terrific people and weather. I am getting back on line to ask for your help. I need, for my health, to find Bruce Stenulson (?sp) who was making a DC version of Dan Tracy's EMEM2 and also the EMEM3... If anyone knows Bruce's telephone #, e-mail address, URL, please e-mail me at c...@aloha.net. My old EMEM2 does not work any more and I need a DC machine to use off grid I have done internet searches to no avail..HHELP, please... MAHALO & ALOHA, Dr. P PS: Thanks Mike, for posting this.. I know one of the CS people will know Bruce... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
Cindy, Firstly, are you giving him free choice, all the good green alfalfa hay he can eat?We had rabbits for several years, my kids showed in 4-H. We raised California's and red and white New Zealands. We fed free choice alfalfa, and a horse sweet feed, complete with oats, corn and pellets. When we ran out of feed, they did great on whole wheat bread, free choice alfalfa hay, and a mixture of oats and cracked corn. Also if you can get your hands on it, rabbits LOVE comfrey. I would think the amount of CS he'd get in his mouth if you spray his eyes and nose would be minimal. Good luck!! Sparrow Hello listers, The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that the little bugger won't eat pellets. He flat out refuses. I have tried mixing them with banana, applesauce, sprinkling them on his lettuce, as well as trying to syringe feed them to him. All to no avail. So I have kept him on Romaine and collards, wheat breat, rolled oats, a piece of an apple, and shredded wheat cereal. I have started him on vitamins, but still don't now how to get his diet balanced. Does anyone have any rabbit knowledge? I am going to use colloidal silver for the pasteurella (bunny cold) in his eyes, and am thinking about using C.S. as a nasal spray for his nose but am concerned about the C.S. getting to his mouth and from there to his digestive system. His health is kinda fragile right now, so I need to be careful and stick to tried and true remedies. Thankyou for your thoughts. Cindy
CS>Mercury and Gold
Sorry Dennis but you're wrong too. The miners used mercury to amalgamate the gold. That means to make the gold stick to the mercury or vice versa. They would rub a generous amount of mercury on clean copper sheets and place the sheets in their sluice boxes. When the gravel, sand, mud and water passed through the box, the gold and any noble metals would stick to the plate. At the end of the day they would then remove the plate and use a squeegee to wipe the gold and other metals stuck to the mercury off the plate. They would then wring the mercury out through a sheet of chamois. The mercury would pass through the chamois leaving the metal in an amalgamated lump in the chamois. They would then drive the mercury off the lump by using heat and what was left was the metal that had been trapped in the mercury. They then separated the gold from other metals using different techniques. One of the basic ones was to heat the metal lump in a crucible with some antimony. Antimony is called the wolf in alchemical terms. That is because it eats all metals EXCEPT gold. It flies off in the form of dense white smoke and carries all metals except gold with it. The gold left behind is considered pure. If there was a lot of silver in the mix, they would use other processes to get it and would not use antimony because the silver would be lost. But if there was little metal other than gold, the antimony process was favored for it's simplicity. Gold and all noble metals stick to mercury; they do not dissolve in mercury. They can always be separated from mercury by heat. It's called distillation if you recover the mercury. It's called "flashing off" if you let the mercury go into the atmosphere. Hope this clears the subject up to your satisfaction. Sorry to be off topic Mike. Trem - Original Message - From: D G To: Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:05 AM Subject: CS>Unidentified subject! > i think that it does. that's why miners use mercry to seperate gold > from sand and crushed ore. > > Dennis > > 51/50 > 24/7 > > Trem Williams customer_serv...@silvergen.com
CS>curiouser...
I used distilled water, my usual recipe, and did everything just exactly like I always do. hmmm.. Liz
Re: CS>Tyndall?
So Chuck or anyone, what is that "recipe and time window for the 3 battery system?" I am using 12 oz dw plus 2 oz seed for a total of 14oz, silver wires one inch apart and about 3-3 1/2 inches submerged, a stirrer and dmm and stop when I reach 4- 4.5 on the meter measurement of current/per Ole Bob. The time seems to vary with the temperature and which dw I use and for other reasons I can not determine. My run times have gone from 1 and 1/2 hr to 2 and 1/2hrs. Any thoughts or comments? My Tyndall's are getting stronger of late and I don't know why. sparkles are far and few between. Isn't stirring supposed to keep particle size down? Would love comments on all this. Lee Charles King wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:03 EST, binsm...@aol.com wrote: > > >> My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows > >> tyndall > >> without sparklies. > >What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it > >something I can detect without fancy equipment? > >Nellie > > Tyndall effect is being able to see a narrow beam of light as it is shone > through your solution. > Most of us have used the, now inexpensive, laser pointers purchased at > novelty > stores, flea markets, etc. Don't pay more than $10 for one. > > Use it on your distilled water before a run, and you will feel a bit more > confident about your water (no tyndall). > > Then try it during and after your run. If you see tyndall, great. If you see > it sharply, great. If you see sparkles in the beam, uh, oh. Sparkles mean > large > particles or clumps. Not desireable, cut back on your run time. > > None of this is really necessary if you follow the recipe and time window for > the 3 battery system. It's just a fun thing to increase confidence in your > product. > Chuck > Every time I find out the meaning of life, they change it > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- *To reply to author please remove "Xitout" from the address. This is done to prevent SPAM.
CS>Silver list archives...
Earth Dad wrote: > >Is this list archived? Chuck wrote: > This REALLY otta be in the sig..: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Okay, it's in the sig. SATISFIED!!!??? Mike Devour silver-list owner -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Unidentified subject!
i think that it does. that's why miners use mercry to seperate gold from sand and crushed ore. Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- Hi Marshall, Hate to be argumentative but gold will NOT dissolve in mercury. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: Re: CS>Melting Silver > Charles King wrote: > > > Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F. > > I don't see how any contamination would occur. > > The same way that gold will dissolve in mercury at room temperature, or sugar > in water. Once the silver is liquid other metals can dissolve in it at > temperatures far below their melting point. > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Hi All
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:04:13 -0700 (MST), earthd...@webtv.net (Earth Dad) wrote: >New to the list and very happy to have found my way here. >I hope to learn from the info here. > >Is this list archived? If so...how do I gain access. Thanks for being >here >Ed This REALLY otta be in the sig..: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Chuck Hit any key to continue, or any other key to quit -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tyndall?
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:03 EST, binsm...@aol.com wrote: >> My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows >> tyndall >> without sparklies. >What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it >something I can detect without fancy equipment? >Nellie Tyndall effect is being able to see a narrow beam of light as it is shone through your solution. Most of us have used the, now inexpensive, laser pointers purchased at novelty stores, flea markets, etc. Don't pay more than $10 for one. Use it on your distilled water before a run, and you will feel a bit more confident about your water (no tyndall). Then try it during and after your run. If you see tyndall, great. If you see it sharply, great. If you see sparkles in the beam, uh, oh. Sparkles mean large particles or clumps. Not desireable, cut back on your run time. None of this is really necessary if you follow the recipe and time window for the 3 battery system. It's just a fun thing to increase confidence in your product. Chuck Every time I find out the meaning of life, they change it -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Melting Silver
Hi Marshall, Hate to be argumentative but gold will NOT dissolve in mercury. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: Re: CS>Melting Silver > Charles King wrote: > > > Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F. > > I don't see how any contamination would occur. > > The same way that gold will dissolve in mercury at room temperature, or sugar > in water. Once the silver is liquid other metals can dissolve in it at > temperatures far below their melting point. > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
maybe grow him some fresh sprouts with cs water? Dennis 51/50 24/7 --- Begin Message --- I have tried alfalfa, timothy and grass hays. He just doesn't like them. He is a funny bunny when it comes to food preferences. He used to stick his nose up to everything but romaine, now he likes collards and just picks at the romaine. If there are any rabbit people out there, or if someone knows anyone that is rabbit-savvy, I would really appreciate some help on what to do with him. Thanks, Brooks for the peace of mid re: C.S. and rabbits. Best all, Cindy -Original Message- From: binsm...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:16 AM Subject: Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S. >In a message dated 11/12/1999 10:01:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, >suns...@networld.com writes: > >> The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that >> the little bugger won't eat pellets. >Would he eat alfalfa hay? >Nellie >Christ, my all <>< > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > --- End Message ---
Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
I have tried alfalfa, timothy and grass hays. He just doesn't like them. He is a funny bunny when it comes to food preferences. He used to stick his nose up to everything but romaine, now he likes collards and just picks at the romaine. If there are any rabbit people out there, or if someone knows anyone that is rabbit-savvy, I would really appreciate some help on what to do with him. Thanks, Brooks for the peace of mid re: C.S. and rabbits. Best all, Cindy -Original Message- From: binsm...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:16 AM Subject: Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S. >In a message dated 11/12/1999 10:01:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, >suns...@networld.com writes: > >> The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that >> the little bugger won't eat pellets. >Would he eat alfalfa hay? >Nellie >Christ, my all <>< > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
CS>Unidentified subject!
last time i checked, the list of pathenogens cs "did in" was at about 650. anybody know the latest count? it's been a while... Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Hi All
New to the list and very happy to have found my way here. I hope to learn from the info here. Is this list archived? If so...how do I gain access. Thanks for being here Ed -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Dust Mites
> deat...@aol.com wrote: > > > Rob, > > inform me/us - what diseases or what do dust mites do? I must have a zillion > > of them!! I hate cleaning! > > > > jeannine > > > > > > Their waste products (dust) contains a protein which many people are allergic > to. Primary problem is they cause dust and allergies. > > Marshall > > > > Dust mites don't cause dust; people cause dust. Mites eat dust. Dust is 90 percent dead skin cells and hair fragments, which is protein on which dust mites feed. The rest of Marshall's statement is correct - dust mites excrete toxins that irritate some people's airways and cause allergic reactions. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS an PH concerns
At 06:46 PM 11/12/99 -0700, you wrote: >Thanks for the out-loud-laugh Steve! Likewise! The image of American Indian shamans sitting in a sweat hut passing around an enema bag full of peyote juice will haunt me for some time to come. weird and wonderful stuff > >James Osbourne Holmes >a...@trail.com > > >-Original Message- >From: Steve King [SMTP:ssk...@nildram.co.uk] >Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 6:21 AM >To:silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: RE: CS an PH concerns > >>It is rumored that some practitioners of traditional psychedelic >>sacraments have been know to boil peyote down to a thin black syrup and >>administer it as an enema to avoid nausea while absorbing the desired >>active ingredients. > >I'm thinking peyote -and- CS via the backdoor >might really do the trick. Who's up for it? > >>I wonder what the ritual aspects were like...? > >The mind boggles. . . > >. . .don't Bogart that enema bag my friend, >pass it over to me. > >. . .you've been been hanging on to it. >and, I really want a hit > >[ song continues ] > > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?
Mike, Thank you for your reply. It's good to hear that LV silver is about as good as HV silver. Bil -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 3:03 PM Subject: Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? Re: Low or high voltage, Bil Green wrote: > I have not seen anyone discuss the best method for making high > quality CS. True, that particular debate hasn't come up lately. The consensus we have reached, or at least that I encourage, is that either is perfectly capable of making good CS. It's just a matter of getting your chosen process under control. > One of the manufacturers of high voltage (10,000 volts AC) CS > generators claims that the low voltage (30 volts DC) systems are > worthless. This is an overstatement on his part. Given the number of people who've had good luck with the LVDC generated stuff, you can *not* say that they don't work. It is arguable that the HVAC process generates a *different* and in some ways possibly *better* product, yes, but it does not negate the virtues of the low cost, low tech methods. We've got plenty of *both* kind of units represented here. You don't hear much complaint from either side about their own systems not working! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?
James, To wire an inexpensive VOM in series with the 10,000 VAC the first consideration is that cheap VOM's don't measure AC milliamps (only DC). Sorry I did not think of that last time. I don't know what Marshall was referring to about adding a diode. Adding one in series with the meter would change the HVAC to DC. This is more accurate: Wire a 1,000 ohm resistor in series with one of the HV leads and attach your meter leads ACROSS this resistor. Set the meter to read at least 10VAC at first. A 1/2 watt resistor will do. When you power up, a reading of 1 VAC will indicate 1 mA, 5 VAC is 5 mA, etc. Adding this 1,000 ohm resistor to a 10,000 V circuit will reduce the current by less than a hundredth of 1 mA! (when running at 1 to 10 mA). You can use a lower voltage setting on the meter if necessary for better resolution. Thank you for the tips on CS. Bil >Hi Bill, > >Thank you for your time and expertise. I think I will try the RS meter >first. > >I thought that paddle meters were made which could just be placed on the >wire, but I have not been able to find one. That seems the least intrusion >into the circuit. > >Can you describe in detail how to hook up a cheap analog meter. I could do >it at the generator tank end of the circuit without cutting the HV leads. > Perhaps physically awkward, but I could do it without cutting the wire. > >I don't know much about low voltage silver, except that it works. I >started with 3 9v batteries and a glass. > >>From my observations of the experiences of the people on this list a lot of >different systems work. I am expert in none. I would have to dig through >a lot of not-well-organized mail to find the answers to your questions. > Address them to the list and you will get a flood of answers. > >One thing is pretty obvious; water quality---purity and conductivity---is >crucial to most, if not all processes. And you can get water a bit too >pure. > >The second most important factor is limiting current. As more Ag gets in >the water, it becomes more conductive and puts more silver in the water >faster, which raises the condyou get the point. Most agree that big >current makes big particles. Most everybody seems to agree, that with DC >generators, current limiting circuits improve the quality of the sol. I >think they use a 555. > >Let me know if you can't find what you are looking for and I will try and >dig it up. > >James Osbourne Holmes >a...@trail.com > > >-Original Message- >From: 2001 TV VCR [SMTP:x2...@qnet.com] >Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 12:13 AM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com; a...@trail.com >Subject: Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? > >James, > >To safely measure the current in the secondary circuit of the >10,000 volt transformer I would recommend the following: > >With the power off attach your inductive pickup to one of the >high voltage wires making sure that no other wire (low or HV) >or metal is within several inches of the pickup > >This HV wire is only 10,000 volts IN RELATION to another wire >on the transformer secondary. With the HV transformers in the >TV's I work on (15,000 Hz, not 60 Hz) there can be some >voltage leaking to other wires or metal, less likely with 60 Hz. > >To be on the safe side you probably should use a less >expensive DMM. You can pick one up for as low as $30 (US). >Make sure that it has a 10 megohm input impedance (if that's >what your Fluke has). Then if somehow it blows out you don't >lose much. Nice to have a backup meter anyhow. > >By the way will your pickup measure a few milliamps? Maybe >I should have asked that first!! An inductive pickup may be very >inaccurate with such a small current flow. I cannot imagine how >cutting and then carefully splicing the wire would hurt anything. >Then you could use a $10 analog VOM (volt-ohm-milliampmeter.) > >If you have any suggestions for using another low voltage instead >of 30VDC (15V? 150V?) and best current levels I would be most >appreciative. I am using the gallon jar with the large electrodes. > >Good luck and let me know what happens, > >Bil Green > > > >>Hi Bill >> >>Can you tell me the most practical way to measure the milliamps at the >>secondary of a nominal 120 V 60 Hz 10KV center-tapped transformer? I >>would rather not cut the wire, because the maker says the configuration is >>very sensitive to even minor changes in the physical layout. >> >>I have a Fluke 87 and an inductive pickup, but am spooked about frying the >>meter. I asked Fluke, and they said the transformer was not rated for >that >>voltage. Other than an insulation breakdown, what distortion of the >>measurement or harm to the meter would you consider. >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >> >>James Osbourne Holmes >>a...@trail.com >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: 2001 TV VCR [SMTP:x2...@qnet.com] >>Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:40 PM >>To: silver-list@eskimo.com >>Subject: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? >> >>I have not seen anyone discuss the best m
Re: CS>Tyndall?
At 02:05 AM 11/13/1999 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:19:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: > My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows > tyndall > without sparklies. What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it something I can detect without fancy equipment? Nellie Christ, my all <>< At 02:05 AM 11/13/1999 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:19:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: > My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows > tyndall > without sparklies. What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it something I can detect without fancy equipment? Nellie Christ, my all <>< Hi Ellie, Have you ever seen a movie where the bad guys are going in somewhere to burglarize a place and they blow smoke out in front of them to pick laser lines? If by chance you have one of those laser pointers or a laser sight for a weapon you can do the same thing with your colloidal silver. The more ppm of silver or the larger the particles are, the stronger the line will be. That is the tyndall effect. This is the way I understand it anyway. Harv -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[Fwd: Cs Samples - test results]
I have some comments to make Joe, Firstly to restate the measurements as written: > Based on the typical 1.6us/PPM: > The water tested at 5.8us or 3.6PPM > Sample Cs-1 tested at 7.0 us or 4.4PPM > Sample Cs-2 tested at 6.1 us or 3.8PPM The relationship between uS reading and mg/L (ppm) is not only slightly wrong (1.6 vs 1.74) but is inversed. It is not true that the relationship is 1.6uS/ppm but rather 1.6ppm/uS, or rather, at infinite dilution 1.74ppm/uS. To be absolutely correct, at 15ppm the relationship is 1.77ppm/uS. So you can see that the results if redone to 1.77ppm/uS are: Sample 1...7.0uS = 12.39ppm Sample 2...6.1uS = 10.8 ppm However, as the water tested at 5.8uS I would subtract that from the sample readings, which results in: Sample 1...7.0 - 5.8 = 1.2uS = 2.12ppm Sample 2...6.1 - 5.8 = 0.3uS = 0.53ppm The distilled water reading is very high, as mentioned, but what happens to the impurities during generation depends upon what the impurities are. If they are metallic cations such as copper, calcium, magnesium etc. they it is likely they will take no part in any reaction, remain in solution and add to the total conductivity reading. If they are anions such as chloride, dissolved CO2, etc, then a reaction with the silver ions may occur. How this will affect the reading is anybody's guess, as while most silver compounds are insoluble (and therefore no longer affect the reading) many are slightly soluble... The reworked results as shown above are pretty much what I would expect for given generating time (15 min) in distilled water with a reading of 1uS. With your set up I would expect 5ppm in about 35 mins, 10 ppm in 50 mins and 15 ppm in 60 mins, assuming the solution was stirred every 5 mins or so. I believe it would be wise to limit the current to under 1mA, but if you stir frequently then it is unlikely that you will reach this limit before you reach 15 ppm. Hope this helps, Ivan. - Original Message - From: Joe Fleck To: Sent: Saturday, 13 November 1999 12:38 Subject: CS>[Fwd: Cs Samples - test results] > Anyone want to comment on any of this. It's some test results and my > reply. thanks... > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Peyote....
Yes, and the Navajo have a ceremony where the leader of the village ritually induces vomiting after taking into his being the community bad vibes. He tickles his throat with an eagle feather into a receptive bowl shaped in the earth. The peyote tradition, perhaps more accessible via the Native American Church, is a path of great truth, honor, and beauty. I have seen the Firebird. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America [SMTP:jdkl...@netzero.net] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 11:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CS>Peyote I don't know if any of you have experienced a Native American Church ceremony or not I had the honor of experiencing a dusk to dawn ceremony in a Tee Pee at Mission San Juan in San Antonio, TX, about 2 years ago on Easter night. Rather than "getting sick" the Native Americans consider vomiting "getting well"... a catharsis or purging of bad spirits and such. After experiencing the sacred peyote ceremony led by a "Road Man"... the Native American Church spiritual leader, similar to a priest in other religions, I have come around to their way of thinking, including a deep respect for their "medicine" ... The experience was one of the most beautiful nights of my life. Water drums, singing, the fire, cedar, sage, eagle feathers, ... I will never forget it jd -Original Message- From: Steve King To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 7:50 AM Subject: RE: CS an PH concerns >>It is rumored that some practitioners of traditional psychedelic >>sacraments have been know to boil peyote down to a thin black syrup and >>administer it as an enema to avoid nausea while absorbing the desired >>active ingredients. > >I'm thinking peyote -and- CS via the backdoor >might really do the trick. Who's up for it? > >>I wonder what the ritual aspects were like...? > >The mind boggles. . . > >. . .don't Bogart that enema bag my friend, >pass it over to me. > >. . .you've been been hanging on to it. >and, I really want a hit > >[ song continues ] > > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
RE: CS>wet chem
Hi Marshall, Is there a reference that details the procedure? I would like to try it to see what happens. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>wet chem James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > Bruce Marx and a tech rep from Hach had different results with that > process. Digestion produced wildly unreliable results. The process done > without was consistently y accurate. I do not know what analysis they used > to verify this. The digestion that Bruce had poor results with is using the Hach digestall, a very expensive piece of equipment that Hack talked him into buying, and then had to take back. It is known that this equipment produces bad results. The digestion I am talking about is nothing more than dissolving the silver in boiling nitric acid, then neutralizing with Sodium Hydroxide to produce silver nitrate. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?
What diode, and where do you put it? What does it do? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? If you get any arcing, the high frequencies can couple through the insulation and blow the meter. Blew out a digital voltmeter when I tried it. I have since gone to cheap radio shack mA analog meters with a diode across it, much more robust. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Bill > > Can you tell me the most practical way to measure the milliamps at the > secondary of a nominal 120 V 60 Hz 10KV center-tapped transformer? I > would rather not cut the wire, because the maker says the configuration is > very sensitive to even minor changes in the physical layout. > > I have a Fluke 87 and an inductive pickup, but am spooked about frying the > meter. I asked Fluke, and they said the transformer was not rated for that > voltage. Other than an insulation breakdown, what distortion of the > measurement or harm to the meter would you consider. > > Thanks in advance, > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: 2001 TV VCR [SMTP:x2...@qnet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:40 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? > > I have not seen anyone discuss the best method for > making high quality CS. One of the manufacturers of > high voltage (10,000 volts AC) CS generators claims > that the low voltage (30 volts DC) systems are worthless. > > I have been using 30VDC first using thin silver wires and > a 16 oz. jar and now a gallon jar with a much larger silver > electrode. Without current limiting most of the silver ends > up on the cathode (negative electrode). Some of you > suggested limiting the current to a milliamp or so and > going for quite a few hours. > > Can some of you offer more opinions and suggestions > along these lines. Let us know what type of equipment > and voltages/currents you are working with if getting good > results. It is so important that all of us end up with CS that > is effective and safe to use. > > If any of you have questions about electrical or electronic > circuits involving you CS equipment I can help. > > Bil Green > 2001 TV VCR > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?
James, To safely measure the current in the secondary circuit of the 10,000 volt transformer I would recommend the following: With the power off attach your inductive pickup to one of the high voltage wires making sure that no other wire (low or HV) or metal is within several inches of the pickup This HV wire is only 10,000 volts IN RELATION to another wire on the transformer secondary. With the HV transformers in the TV's I work on (15,000 Hz, not 60 Hz) there can be some voltage leaking to other wires or metal, less likely with 60 Hz. To be on the safe side you probably should use a less expensive DMM. You can pick one up for as low as $30 (US). Make sure that it has a 10 megohm input impedance (if that's what your Fluke has). Then if somehow it blows out you don't lose much. Nice to have a backup meter anyhow. By the way will your pickup measure a few milliamps? Maybe I should have asked that first!! An inductive pickup may be very inaccurate with such a small current flow. I cannot imagine how cutting and then carefully splicing the wire would hurt anything. Then you could use a $10 analog VOM (volt-ohm-milliampmeter.) If you have any suggestions for using another low voltage instead of 30VDC (15V? 150V?) and best current levels I would be most appreciative. I am using the gallon jar with the large electrodes. Good luck and let me know what happens, Bil Green >Hi Bill > >Can you tell me the most practical way to measure the milliamps at the >secondary of a nominal 120 V 60 Hz 10KV center-tapped transformer? I >would rather not cut the wire, because the maker says the configuration is >very sensitive to even minor changes in the physical layout. > >I have a Fluke 87 and an inductive pickup, but am spooked about frying the >meter. I asked Fluke, and they said the transformer was not rated for that >voltage. Other than an insulation breakdown, what distortion of the >measurement or harm to the meter would you consider. > >Thanks in advance, > > >James Osbourne Holmes >a...@trail.com > > >-Original Message- >From: 2001 TV VCR [SMTP:x2...@qnet.com] >Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:40 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? > >I have not seen anyone discuss the best method for >making high quality CS. One of the manufacturers of >high voltage (10,000 volts AC) CS generators claims >that the low voltage (30 volts DC) systems are worthless. > >I have been using 30VDC first using thin silver wires and >a 16 oz. jar and now a gallon jar with a much larger silver >electrode. Without current limiting most of the silver ends >up on the cathode (negative electrode). Some of you >suggested limiting the current to a milliamp or so and >going for quite a few hours. > >Can some of you offer more opinions and suggestions >along these lines. Let us know what type of equipment >and voltages/currents you are working with if getting good >results. It is so important that all of us end up with CS that >is effective and safe to use. > >If any of you have questions about electrical or electronic >circuits involving you CS equipment I can help. > >Bil Green >2001 TV VCR > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
In a message dated 11/12/1999 10:01:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, suns...@networld.com writes: > The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that > the little bugger won't eat pellets. Would he eat alfalfa hay? Nellie Christ, my all <>< -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Tyndall?
In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:19:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: > My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows > tyndall > without sparklies. What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it something I can detect without fancy equipment? Nellie Christ, my all <>< -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Ref. CS FOR RABBITS
To all interested list members. We have given many rabbits "free choice" CS, in their drinking water (sometimes 5ppm undiluted) with absolutely no adverse reactions. We never administered "these therapeutic" dosages longer than 7 days straight. However, we used approximately 1 tablespoon of 5 ppm CS per 1 quart of water, as a bacterial control--for months on endno problems. We have, for years, used CS for pathogen control in all of the drinking water for our dogs and cats, (rats also) at our research facility. It is a splendid control for low-count pathogen control.. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley s -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Peyote....
I don't know if any of you have experienced a Native American Church ceremony or not I had the honor of experiencing a dusk to dawn ceremony in a Tee Pee at Mission San Juan in San Antonio, TX, about 2 years ago on Easter night. Rather than "getting sick" the Native Americans consider vomiting "getting well"... a catharsis or purging of bad spirits and such. After experiencing the sacred peyote ceremony led by a "Road Man"... the Native American Church spiritual leader, similar to a priest in other religions, I have come around to their way of thinking, including a deep respect for their "medicine" ... The experience was one of the most beautiful nights of my life. Water drums, singing, the fire, cedar, sage, eagle feathers, ... I will never forget it jd -Original Message- From: Steve King To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 7:50 AM Subject: RE: CS an PH concerns >>It is rumored that some practitioners of traditional psychedelic >>sacraments have been know to boil peyote down to a thin black syrup and >>administer it as an enema to avoid nausea while absorbing the desired >>active ingredients. > >I'm thinking peyote -and- CS via the backdoor >might really do the trick. Who's up for it? > >>I wonder what the ritual aspects were like...? > >The mind boggles. . . > >. . .don't Bogart that enema bag my friend, >pass it over to me. > >. . .you've been been hanging on to it. >and, I really want a hit > >[ song continues ] > > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>Melting Silver
Charles King wrote: > Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F. > I don't see how any contamination would occur. The same way that gold will dissolve in mercury at room temperature, or sugar in water. Once the silver is liquid other metals can dissolve in it at temperatures far below their melting point. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE?
If you get any arcing, the high frequencies can couple through the insulation and blow the meter. Blew out a digital voltmeter when I tried it. I have since gone to cheap radio shack mA analog meters with a diode across it, much more robust. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Bill > > Can you tell me the most practical way to measure the milliamps at the > secondary of a nominal 120 V 60 Hz 10KV center-tapped transformer? I > would rather not cut the wire, because the maker says the configuration is > very sensitive to even minor changes in the physical layout. > > I have a Fluke 87 and an inductive pickup, but am spooked about frying the > meter. I asked Fluke, and they said the transformer was not rated for that > voltage. Other than an insulation breakdown, what distortion of the > measurement or harm to the meter would you consider. > > Thanks in advance, > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: 2001 TV VCR [SMTP:x2...@qnet.com] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:40 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:CS>LOW OR HIGH VOLTAGE? > > I have not seen anyone discuss the best method for > making high quality CS. One of the manufacturers of > high voltage (10,000 volts AC) CS generators claims > that the low voltage (30 volts DC) systems are worthless. > > I have been using 30VDC first using thin silver wires and > a 16 oz. jar and now a gallon jar with a much larger silver > electrode. Without current limiting most of the silver ends > up on the cathode (negative electrode). Some of you > suggested limiting the current to a milliamp or so and > going for quite a few hours. > > Can some of you offer more opinions and suggestions > along these lines. Let us know what type of equipment > and voltages/currents you are working with if getting good > results. It is so important that all of us end up with CS that > is effective and safe to use. > > If any of you have questions about electrical or electronic > circuits involving you CS equipment I can help. > > Bil Green > 2001 TV VCR > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Melting Silver
I believe that some of the alloy elements in stainless will dissolve in the silver, such as zinc, nickel and so forth. I would use pyrex or quartz, not stainless. Silver is extremely malleable. I would consider hammering it into the size and shape I want instead of casting it. Marshall Jeffrey A. Madore wrote: > I have been experimenting with larger electrodes. I would like > to melt several pieces of 999 silver into one large flat piece. > > I plan to melt them on a sheet of stainless, using an oxy acet torch. > Can anyone tell me if this would cause contamination of the silver, > such that it would not be optimum for CS generation? Would there > be a better material to use to accomplish this process? My initial > experiments showed that the stainless got cherry red as the silver > reached a temp where it would flow. Possibly I just need to heat it > more slowly. > > Any comments are much appreciated. > > God Bless, > > Jeff K1LE - CT > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[Fwd: Cs Samples - test results]
Joe wrote: > Anyone want to comment on any of this. It's some test results and my > reply. thanks... > The method I used was the 3- 9v configuration > with 1.75" of the electrodes submersed with a spacing of 2.5" for 15 > minutes. 8oz of water was used at a starting temp of 23C for sample > #1 and 22.5C for > #2. This is my first try. Looks like it didn't go so well, huh? Joe, If you're limiting your current, or even if you're not, you'll not get too much silver into the water in only 15 minutes. I keep the current around a milliamp or less on my setup right now, and it takes at least an hour to get a "few" ppm. I usually run for a good couple of hours. Not precise, I know, but it gives you an idea. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Rabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
Hello listers, The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that the little bugger won't eat pellets. He flat out refuses. I have tried mixing them with banana, applesauce, sprinkling them on his lettuce, as well as trying to syringe feed them to him. All to no avail. So I have kept him on Romaine and collards, wheat breat, rolled oats, a piece of an apple, and shredded wheat cereal. I have started him on vitamins, but still don't now how to get his diet balanced. Does anyone have any rabbit knowledge? I am going to use colloidal silver for the pasteurella (bunny cold) in his eyes, and am thinking about using C.S. as a nasal spray for his nose but am concerned about the C.S. getting to his mouth and from there to his digestive system. His health is kinda fragile right now, so I need to be careful and stick to tried and true remedies. Thankyou for your thoughts. Cindy
Re: CS>wet chem
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: > Hi Marshall, > > Bruce Marx and a tech rep from Hach had different results with that > process. Digestion produced wildly unreliable results. The process done > without was consistently y accurate. I do not know what analysis they used > to verify this. The digestion that Bruce had poor results with is using the Hach digestall, a very expensive piece of equipment that Hack talked him into buying, and then had to take back. It is known that this equipment produces bad results. The digestion I am talking about is nothing more than dissolving the silver in boiling nitric acid, then neutralizing with Sodium Hydroxide to produce silver nitrate. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>wet chem
> Scanned I don't understand. The 20 is set by turning a solid > aluminum disk about 3' dia. with etched calibrations. I think it > changes the angle of a ruled glass. You just turn a knob. I never > change it. In a scanning spec, there's a motor and encoder type setup to step the wavelength from one setting to another at some rate, allowing you to generate an absoption vs. wavelength *curve*. Examine the output, look for structure in the shape of the curve -- maybe pull some idea of particle size *distribution* out of it. Would be a great way to fine tune your understanding of particle size generated by variations in process conditions, eg., size vs. current density. > JOH: It will, if you just want a reasonable measure of the PPM you > are making. You can see I'm stretching for a little more capability, hoping to be able to pull particle size out of it. *Anything* that could drive down the cost of doing particle size analysis would open some doors. You'd only have to do enough TEM or SEM (or the cryo-stage counting thing you talk about) to prove the spec technique worked. You'd then be equipped to do series' of experiments observing the change in partical size distribution vs process conditions. You could answer a *lot* of questions that way. > The problem is that some of the light is absorbed and some is > re-emitted at different frequencies and at a varying angles from > the incident beam. I think the technique is a variation of > turbidity measurement. It might not end up as simple as I hypothesized above! > According to Marx, Scanning Tran. Electron scope is where it is at. > I don't know. That rings a bell. Is he talking about STEM, or Scanning Tunneling Electron Microscopy? I worked with a guy who was setting up a STEM back when they were a pretty new idea. He eventually got it working, I believe, and used it to get some nifty results. You can literally use STEM to image individual atoms on the surface of a crystal. You can even *manipulate* individual atoms on a surface with the danged thing! Compared to that, looking at silver particles depositied on a clean surface would be like imaging bowling balls. > Well, if we can at least know the physical characteristics of what > we're making, we can then attempt to evaluate performance on the > basis of effectiveness, absorption, excretion, etc. > > JOH: Yes, and that is probably being done quietly in a few very > well funded labs. I can understand the "quietly" part. > Good talking with you my friend. > Take care and have fun. ... there is lots more, search. Thank you, James. Be well. M. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Melting Silver
I have been experimenting with larger electrodes. I would like to melt several pieces of 999 silver into one large flat piece. I plan to melt them on a sheet of stainless, using an oxy acet torch. Can anyone tell me if this would cause contamination of the silver, such that it would not be optimum for CS generation? Would there be a better material to use to accomplish this process? My initial experiments showed that the stainless got cherry red as the silver reached a temp where it would flow. Possibly I just need to heat it more slowly. Any comments are much appreciated. God Bless, Jeff K1LE - CT -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: HVAC PPM was (CS>curiouser and curiouser...)
On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:45:56 -0500, "Jeffrey A. Madore" wrote: >Chuck, >I know that you use HVAC to generate CS. My question is: How do you vary >the ppm concentration? If I understand correctly, the process is stopped when >the >cone turnes into an arc. I tried this with 10kv and the product was grey with >obvious fallout. Actually I do it both ways, lately HVAC. I don't really concern myself with ppm, I shoot for an effective product. My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows tyndall without sparklies. Really, simple as that! It's just easier with HV. My last run with HVAC, I experimented with 10 megs of resistance to limit the current to less than a milliamp (9kv transformer). It appears that it could run for days at that current. I stopped it after 8 hrs. I would think from your description above, that you ran it a bit too long or your water was contaminated. When I first set up, I used tap water to try it out and got what you described. Don't use a cleaner (soap or detergent) to clean your container! Remember, you're a guy!! Without current limiting, my run would be about 2 hrs max. Chuck "Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: HVAC PPM was (CS>curiouser and curiouser...)
Chuck, I know that you use HVAC to generate CS. My question is: How do you vary the ppm concentration? If I understand correctly, the process is stopped when the cone turnes into an arc. I tried this with 10kv and the product was grey with obvious fallout. Thanks, Jeff K1LE - CT Charles King wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:00:36 +0200, O2 Communication > wrote: > > >... and I recently made a strong batch for my daughter to soak her feet in > >for plantars warts - using normal tap water. What a scary-looking product > >we have - it started out milky / cloudy and has over the past two days > >turned a vicious purplish colour and quite opaque. Do you think this is > >safe for external use?!! > >Yvonne > > If you're using tap water, remember that the brewing time is cut down > drastically. Usually about 3 to 5 minutes for a glassful! > Chuck > I don't care if I'm a lemming, I'm still not going > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
