Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[CKing001]

Please set your mail client to text only.
HTML mail is discarded without reading.
Too risky in todays' virus atmosphere.
Chuck
Lt. Commander Data--your plastic pal who's fun to be with !


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
From: G. T. four_10_g...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:53:42 -


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CSRe: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email

[Jimbo Wright]

This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be
imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good
argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of
virus transfer.

Jim Wright

-Original Message-
From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSre: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached
you your email


Hello,

As you already know, this email had a virus attached.  The dangerous thing
about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message.  It wasn't
included as an attachment - which I NEVER open.  That is scary, as the next
one might not be as easy to get rid of.

Steve Radcliff


 ** Original Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria
 ** Original Sender: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com
 ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT)

 ** Original Message follows...


 Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen.  I am most
glad your son recovered!

 PS:  You have the Kak virus

   - Original Message -
   From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM
   Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria


   Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs
broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound.  While in the hosp.
I took him silver colloid  which looked like grape juice at the rate of two
quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications.  He
said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for
debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing
the leg from the inside out.  They wouldn't let us dress the wound.  Got
rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the
hosp and still has both legs.  h...@mcmo.net




** - End Original Message --- **





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CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[G. T.]

Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg): Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of "silver creme". It was white and in a small plastictub with a handwritten "silver creme" label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just "silver creme"...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical communityare coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and Idecided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay!Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


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CSNew email address

[G. T.]

Sorry, I didn't sign that last one, and I've changed to a new hotmail email acct. because of these virus SUESthe update on the elderly client was from me, Gage. And I didn't receive the kak or the nasty new one that doesn't have an attachment. I would suggest that all who are still having virus protection problems do the same- it's easy. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com


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Re: CS diabetes

[Gaston]

Hi Terry,

Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about
his client in Manitoba.
My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably
not enough), but there was no change. 
Would you be able to obtain more info from this  Health food
store regarding:
- Strength of CS.
- Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the
   Health food store.

I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs
that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit
to some other members of this list as well.

Thanking you,

Gaston
=
- Original Message - 
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM
Subject: CS  diabetes


 I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba
 who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes.
 She had it severe enough that her whole health was
 effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS,
 she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor
 and he said, What have you been doing? She said,
 What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is
 normal. What have you been doing differently? She
 wouldn't tell him.
 
 Terry Wayne
 
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Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[A.V.R.A]

Thank you for the update...

The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine.  I hope this doctor 
included some instructions.  Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and 
can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor 
infection that will clear up after use has stopped ).

Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually 
only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect.  
Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent.  It would be 
interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ).

  - Original Message - 
  From: G. T. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM
  Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client


  Update on elderly client  (infected wounds on leg) :  Saw her tonight and she 
had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a 
young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of silver creme.  It was 
white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten silver creme label on it- 
no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just silver 
creme...she told my client that it had silver in it.  Looks like certain 
members of the medical community are coming around.  I bought her some c.s. 
anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy 
crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of 
thatHappy ending.  Yay!

Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[EJohns9525]

In a message dated 05/15/2001 8:29:07 AM Central Daylight Time, 
colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com writes:

 Thank you for the update...
 
 The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine.  I hope this doctor 
included some instructions.  Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, 
and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor 
infection that will clear up after use has stopped ).
 
 Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually 
only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect.  
Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent.  It would 
be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ).
  
_
One of the doctors my daughter works with damaged his finger 
very badly doing mechanic work.  He got the other doc to treat it...
shot, medication etc.  After a few days she told me it still looked
terrible and had gotten infected.  I knew they wouldn't do anything
natural so told her to get him some silvadine.  He did send her to pharmacy
to pick some up and it healed almost over night.  Good stuff.


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CSAthlete's Feet

[Craig Spaulding]

I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite
severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it
for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I
was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on
each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help. 

Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them
put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some
MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally. 

Thanks,

Craig


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CSTesting.. Testing. Ignore..

[Grant]

TestingJust testing something about my email.. please
ignore..
   Grant..


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Re: CSRe: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email

[Marshall Dudley]

As far as I know, Outlook express is the only mail program that will execute
embeded worms in an email without you clicking on an attachment.  Netscape and
Eudora do not have that security hole.  Anyone running Outlook is begging to be
infected.  Of all my friends who have gotten any worms 100% are running Outlook
Express, yet only about 20% of my friends run it.

Marshall

Jimbo Wright wrote:

 This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be
 imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good
 argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of
 virus transfer.

 Jim Wright

 -Original Message-
 From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org]
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSre: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached
 you your email

 Hello,

 As you already know, this email had a virus attached.  The dangerous thing
 about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message.  It wasn't
 included as an attachment - which I NEVER open.  That is scary, as the next
 one might not be as easy to get rid of.

 Steve Radcliff

  ** Original Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria
  ** Original Sender: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com
  ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT)

  ** Original Message follows...

 
  Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen.  I am most
 glad your son recovered!
 
  PS:  You have the Kak virus
 
- Original Message -
From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria
 
 
Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs
 broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound.  While in the hosp.
 I took him silver colloid  which looked like grape juice at the rate of two
 quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications.  He
 said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for
 debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing
 the leg from the inside out.  They wouldn't let us dress the wound.  Got
 rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the
 hosp and still has both legs.  h...@mcmo.net
 
 

 ** - End Original Message --- **

 

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CSTesting..Please Ignore..

[Grant]

TestingJust testing something about my email.. please
ignore..
   Grant..


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CSAbout the kak worm problem...

[M. G. Devour]

Hi all,

Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the 
list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded 
script based e-pathogens. 

Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an 
embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out of 
the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and 
/script can just *go*.

Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the
messages may break something for some people who are trying to read
them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process.

Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to 
step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully!

The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just 
post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project, 
requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of 
web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of 
those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS...

In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the 
gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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CS Forum Board

[svr]

Hello,

My name is Steve Radcliff and I am new to CS.  I have some specific questions, 
and wonder if there is a reason a Forum Board and/or  FAQ have not been 
started.  The Archive site seems a likely place for them.  If there is an 
interest in one, or both, of them but they cannot be made a part of the Archive 
site, I will be happy to provide a free (no banner or other type of 
advertising) site through my host.

I just assembled Dr. Jon's CS Generator, and have started to make CS.  I would 
like to exchange information and ideas with others who have build one.  I also 
have questions as to the dosages people are using for different health (human, 
animal and plant) problem treatments.  Each of these could be good Forum 
subjects, and the forums could make the finding of information more easy.

Cordially,

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CS Forum Board

[svr]

Hello,

My name is Steve Radcliff and I am new to CS.  I have some specific questions, 
and wonder if there is a reason a Forum Board and/or  FAQ have not been 
started.  The Archive site seems a likely place for them.  If there is an 
interest in one, or both, of them but they cannot be made a part of the Archive 
site, I will be happy to provide a free (no banner or other type of 
advertising) site through my host.

I just assembled Dr. Jon's CS Generator, and have started to make CS.  I would 
like to exchange information and ideas with others who have build one.  I also 
have questions as to the dosages people are using for different health (human, 
animal and plant) problem treatments.  Each of these could be good Forum 
subjects, and the forums could make the finding of information more easy.

Cordially,

Steve Radcliff



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CSOzone

[svr]

Hello,

There has been information exchanged related to H2O2 and ozone creation on this 
list.
That is the reason for this question:

Does anyone know how to effectively increase the oxygen level in a person's 
blood?  
My wife has serious scarring of both lungs due to pulmonary Sarcoidosis.  
Recently, her  oxygen absorption rate has dropped to around 82% after walking a 
short distance (down the hall), and she is constantly tired.  In hopes her 
recent drop is being caused by infection in her lungs, I have just started 
giving her around 6 ounces per day of CS made using the information provided by 
Dr, Jon to make CS.  No apparent effect yet.

Dr. Jon also intimated that a few drops of  food grade hydrogen peroxide (35%) 
in water 
might help.  In addition, he suggested an ozone generator (using a plan shown 
on his web site) might help.  Haven't tried that yet, but am getting ready to 
if her condition doesn't soon improve.

Does ANYONE have any thoughts or suggestions on how to help MT wife?  It is 
tearing me up to see her unable to breath without the constant use of an oxygen 
generation machine.

Thank you,

Steve Radcliff



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Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[G. T.]

Thanks for responding- no, the doctor only gave oral instructions to apply it to the wound. I hope she doesn't get the secondary infection you described below. 

Original Message Follows 
From: "A.V.R.A" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: 
Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client 
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:21:20 -0600 

Thank you for the update... 

The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). 

Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). 

- Original Message - 
From: G. T. 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM 
Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client 


Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg) : Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of "silver creme". It was white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten "silver creme" label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just "silver creme"...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical community are coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay! 


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Re: CS diabetes

[G. T.]

There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste better. I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll post them if you'd like. I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy clients who come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings. Gage

Original Message Follows 
From: "Gaston" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: 
Subject: Re: CS  diabetes 
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:07:02 -0500 

Hi Terry, 

Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about 
his client in Manitoba. 
My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably 
not enough), but there was no change. 
Would you be able to obtain more info from this Health food 
store regarding: 
- Strength of CS. 
- Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the 
Health food store. 

I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs 
that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit 
to some other members of this list as well. 

Thanking you, 

Gaston 
= 
- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM 
Subject: CS  diabetes 


 I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba 
 who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes. 
 She had it severe enough that her whole health was 
 effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS, 
 she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor 
 and he said, "What have you been doing?" She said, 
 "What do you mean?" He said, "Your blood sugar is 
 normal. What have you been doing differently?" She 
 wouldn't tell him. 
 
 Terry Wayne 
 
 ___ 



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RE: CS diabetes

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

I happened to be reading in the book  Where There Is No Doctor  a couple of
days ago. It stated, with no reference, that ordinary prickly pear cactus
juice is believed by some authorities to benefit diabetes.  Perhaps it is
worth researching.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: G. T. [mailto:four_10_g...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS  diabetes

There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels
in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the
worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste
better.  I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll
post them if you'd like.  I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy
clients who come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings.
Gage
Original Message Follows
From: Gaston
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:
Subject: Re: CS  diabetes
Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:07:02 -0500
Hi Terry,
Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about
his client in Manitoba.
My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably
not enough), but there was no change.
Would you be able to obtain more info from this Health food
store regarding:
- Strength of CS.
- Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the
Health food store.
I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs
that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit
to some other members of this list as well.
Thanking you,
Gaston
=
- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin
To:
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM
Subject: CS  diabetes
 I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba
 who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes.
 She had it severe enough that her whole health was
 effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS,
 she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor
 and he said, What have you been doing? She said,
 What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is
 normal. What have you been doing differently? She
 wouldn't tell him.

 Terry Wayne

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Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client

[A.V.R.A]

The secondary infection, to my knowledge, usually only developes if the cream 
is used constantly for more than one month.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: G. T. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:53 AM
  Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client


  Thanks for responding- no, the doctor only gave oral instructions to apply it 
to the wound.  I hope she doesn't get the secondary infection you described 
below.  



  Original Message Follows 
  From: A.V.R.A 
  Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  To: 
  Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client 
  Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:21:20 -0600 
  Thank you for the update... 
  The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor 
included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and 
can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor 
infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). 
  Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually 
only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. 
Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be 
interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). 
  - Original Message - 
  From: G. T. 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM 
  Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client 
  Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg) : Saw her tonight and she 
had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a 
young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of silver creme. It was 
white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten silver creme label on it- 
no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just silver 
creme...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain 
members of the medical community are coming around. I bought her some c.s. 
anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy 
crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of 
thatHappy ending. Yay! 


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Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem...

[A.V.R.A]

Greetings all...

I went ahead and downloaded the patch itself, as well as two small dos based
programs that repair the damage - two programs, because there are
currently two versions of the worm.

To download all three files, simply click here:

http://silverdata.20m.com/kak/

This will open a directory, where you can choose
1) to download all three files in zip format ( kakpatchrepair.zip)
2) to download only the patch (Outlook_Express_Q240308i.exe)
3) either of the fix files ( or both ).

To use the Outlook express patch, simply download the file and double click
on it.

To use the fix files, download and double click on the file, then select
remove from the popup dialog box that appears.  It will tell you that
either the damage was repaired or your computer was not found to be
currently infected.





- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: CSAbout the kak worm problem...


 Hi all,

 Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the
 list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded
 script based e-pathogens.

 Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an
 embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out of
 the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and
 /script can just *go*.

 Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the
 messages may break something for some people who are trying to read
 them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process.

 Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to
 step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully!

 The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just
 post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project,
 requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of
 web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of
 those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS...

 In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the
 gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help.

 Be well,

 Mike Devour
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RE: CSAthlete's Feet

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

CS has helped several people I know with severe Tinea  Pedis, including
myself.  Lifelong itching, blistering peeling, flaking.  Pharmaceuticals
used to control it are toxic as hell and expensive.   Three months of oral
LVDC [3 each 9 V batteries in series] made it all better.  Higher
quality/concentration CS will probably work faster.  I'll bet you would get
faster results by oral consumption and soaking the feet in a mixture of MSM
and CS---saturate solution.

I have encountered mycosis resistant to CS, notably a ringworm type.  It may
take a while, even if it is susceptible.

The spores of the fungus circulate in the blood and are found in most
environments, so it will probably take a maintenance amount to kill off the
germinating spores prevent recurrence from re-infection.  Others have
suggested wetting the sox with CS and letting it dry before wearing, but I
am not confident the colloid will be recreated.  Can't hurt though

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Craig Spaulding [mailto:spauld...@fil.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAthlete's Feet

I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite
severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it
for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I
was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on
each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help.

Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them
put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some
MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally.

Thanks,

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Re: CSAthlete's Feet

[A.V.R.A]

Craig:

Bentonite is not known for its ability to eliminate fungal conditions.
However, that said, many secondary problems associated with irritated
atheletes foot often occur.  These, bentonite handles well, and handles
quickly.

Coincidently, a recent non-standard treatment was done on an individual,
diabetic, with several small infections that had been progressing for
several weeks.  Finally, the individual was in enough pain to where it
interfered with the ability to sleep.  An overnight treatment was done.  All
pain was removed within five minutes of application.  Two superficial
infections were completely eliminated.  One deep infection was pulled to the
surface ( the infection was under the skin ).  Healing of the tissues in
question has improved drastically ( as apposed to worsening ).  The
infection that lay beneath the surface of the skin is now visible as a
surface fungal infection.  It is being watched as a learning process without
further intervention.

Pain resumed about midway through the next day, primarily due to the dry
skin that often accompanies severe athletes foot.  One can make a light
ointment or cream out of colloidal silver ( or at least, take one's favorite
good cream, and add CS ).

The infection sites on the surface of the skin remain infection free. The
small infection that is visible in the photos ( see below ) was actually
deep enough to call for direct formation of granular tissue ( it is hard to
tell the depth of the injury in the photos ).

Because of the nature of the tissues themselves, any solution will take some
time of continual repeated treatment.

The photos ( and commentary )of this treatment can be seen at:
http://www20.brinkster.com/eytonsearth/forum

One must either login to the forum as guest, guest, or sign up for a user
name.

The photos are in the photos section.

The bentonite was prepared with a combination of natural hotsprings water
which was partially dried then re-hydrated with colloidal silver.  A small
amount of Eucalyptus ( pure ) essential oil was added as well.

- Original Message -
From: Craig Spaulding spauld...@fil.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:57 AM
Subject: CSAthlete's Feet


 I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite
 severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it
 for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I
 was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on
 each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help.

 Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them
 put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some
 MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally.

 Thanks,

 Craig


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Re: CSHVAC silver

[Chip Hoyle]

Marshall,

I just re-read this e-mail and thought I'd pass along this link if you haven't
seen it.  I spoke with Bill Fernald for a few minutes over the phone about the
process that he uses and this picture is worth a thousand words.
http://utopiasilver.com/goldcloseup.jpg

Regards,

Chip Hoyle

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I have tried them for gold using the submerged non-arcing CS production
 method, and was unsuccessfully in doing anyting but boiling the water.

 Using two of them in parallel is what we use for making the Silver Lighning
 CS.  Works great.  With a flow through you can make about 2 gallons an hour
 for 5 ppm CS per transformer if you cool the entrance water to near
 freezing.

 Marshall

 Chip Hoyle wrote:

  Hi everybody,
 
  I just got my 15kv 60ma x-former for producing colloidal gold.  Has
  anyone on the list ever tried using an x-former of this voltage to do
  CS?  I'm looking forward to taking the leap into HVAC.  Would appreciate
  any feedback.  Thanks!
 
  Chip Hoyle
 
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Re: CSHVAC silver

[Robert L. Berger]

Chip;

I have spent about an hour with Bill about a month ago in regards to his 
process.
It is intended to make gold colloid.

I tried that setup for silver and it makes a very large particle size. When I
contaacted him again about the silver problems he
told me that it makes large particles. I have a gallon of CS with a bright red 
TE
which I never get with the arc CO2 process.

The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle 
size
of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to prove
it. It is available to anyone at no cost.

Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large.

Ole Bob



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Re: CSHVAC silver

[Frank Key]

Bob wrote:


 The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle 
 size
 of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to 
 prove
 it. It is available to anyone at no cost.
 
 Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large.

I challenge the validity of the claimed particle sizes above. Firstly, because 
a TEM cannot accurately determine the particle size in highly ionic solutions, 
and secondly, the Photon Correlation Spectrometer measured much larger 
particles in the sample provided by Bob for cs made by this process.

For more details on why a TEM is not usable for measuring particles in highly 
ionic solutions see:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#TEM


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Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem...A QUESTION

[Joanne]

I had 2 Kak's slip through security last week and 5 more got caught this
week and were deleted automatically.  I had installed the patch but not sure
if I did it before or after the infection.  I e-mailed the company asking
how to delete the Kak's and they sent me instructions, some of which I could
follow.  A friend helped me finish it off.  I am certainly learning about
computers whether I want to or not

My question for the smart one's is WHY does Explorer seem to be infected
so much more than other programs.  Is it the way the programs are written or
are they being targeted...just curious

Enjoy the Day

Joanne
www.snowcrest.net/samijo
- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem...


 Thanks so much
 I have norton but you never know?
 so I dw loaded the patches, works great, said I was not infected,,,god to
see.
 Tel, from Phoenix,AZ

 A.V.R.A wrote:

  Greetings all...
 
  I went ahead and downloaded the patch itself, as well as two small dos
based
  programs that repair the damage - two programs, because there are
  currently two versions of the worm.
 
  To download all three files, simply click here:
 
  http://silverdata.20m.com/kak/
 
  This will open a directory, where you can choose
  1) to download all three files in zip format ( kakpatchrepair.zip)
  2) to download only the patch (Outlook_Express_Q240308i.exe)
  3) either of the fix files ( or both ).
 
  To use the Outlook express patch, simply download the file and double
click
  on it.
 
  To use the fix files, download and double click on the file, then select
  remove from the popup dialog box that appears.  It will tell you that
  either the damage was repaired or your computer was not found to be
  currently infected.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:05 AM
  Subject: CSAbout the kak worm problem...
 
   Hi all,
  
   Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the
   list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded
   script based e-pathogens.
  
   Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an
   embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out
of
   the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and
   /script can just *go*.
  
   Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the
   messages may break something for some people who are trying to read
   them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process.
  
   Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to
   step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully!
  
   The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just
   post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project,
   requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of
   web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of
   those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS...
  
   In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the
   gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help.
  
   Be well,
  
   Mike Devour
   silver-list owner
  
   [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
   [mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CS diabetes

[Joanne]

Hi Terry

Your friend is fortunate to have such a positive outcome with her diabetes.
For most of us it usually isn't that simple. My only success has been with
diet and exercise.  But now I am so happy with a better diet, less meds, and
I really enjoy my almost daily walk...except when the neighbors dog gets my
leg.  But CS has been helping it heal, although because of the diabetes I
did have to go the ER and get some antibiotics.

Hope your friend can cintinue to keep it under control..it can really  be
nasty.

Enjoy the Day

Joanne
www.snowcrest.net/samijo

- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:29 PM
Subject: CS  diabetes


 I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba
 who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes.
 She had it severe enough that her whole health was
 effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS,
 she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor
 and he said, What have you been doing? She said,
 What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is
 normal. What have you been doing differently? She
 wouldn't tell him.

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CScancer

[Juanita DuVall]

Are there any documented cases where persons with cancer were cured with CS?
 Thanks, Jaunita  DuVall

Re: CS diabetes

[RAINISAGE]

I have a friend who's wife has diabetes, the kind where she produces too much 
insulin.
She apparently has had great success using cinnamon to stabilize her insulin 
levels.

~Hanan


In a message dated 5/15/01 1:37:57 PM, four_10_g...@hotmail.com writes:

 There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels 
in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the worst 
that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste better. 
 I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll post them 
if you'd like.  I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy clients who 
come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings.  Gage 


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Re: CS diabetes

[Dean T. Miller]

Hi Hanan,

On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:25:14 EDT, rainis...@aol.com wrote:

I have a friend who's wife has diabetes, the kind where she produces too much 
insulin.
She apparently has had great success using cinnamon to stabilize her insulin 
levels.

Since cinnamon is a general-purpose internal antibiotic, I'd suspect
she has some kind of infection that results in her diabetes.  (Of
course, most MDs don't accept that kind of explanation.)

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CSCinnamon article

[G. T.]

Hi- here's the article I had on cinnamonGage

HOME: HEALTH: WIRE STORY
Friday, August 25, 2000 By Suzanne Rostler
NEW YORK
Spoonful of Cinnamon May Help Diabetics

People with type 2 diabetes may improve their ability to
regulate their blood sugar by adding a little spice to their life,
report researchers. In preliminary findings, cinnamon helped
fat cells recognize and respond to insulin, the hormone that
removes excess glucose (sugar) from the blood and deposits
it into cells. In a test tube and in animal studies, the spice
appeared to increase glucose metabolism by about 20 times,
said Dr. Richard Anderson, lead scientist at the Beltsville,
Maryland Human Nutrition Center, a branch of the US
Department of Agriculture (USDA).
:
This is a very good means of improving blood sugar with
minimal means and minimal cost, he told Reuters Health.
This could help millions and millions of people.

The majority of the more than 16 million Americans who
suffer from diabetes have type 2 diabetes, a disease in which
the cells fail to recognize insulin. As a result, the amount of
sugar in the blood remains high, leading to fatigue and blurred
vision. Over the long term, excess blood glucose can increase
the risk of heart attack, kidney failure and blindness.

Diabetes is the sixth-leading cause of death in the U.S.,
according to the American Diabetes Association.

Anderson explained that his mostly unpublished research
shows that a compound in cinnamon - methylhydroxy
chalcone polymer (MHCP) - makes fat cells more
responsive to insulin by activating the enzyme that causes
insulin to bind to cells and inhibiting the enzyme that
blocks this process.

While it is too soon to recommend the spice as a regular
treatment for type 2 diabetes, Anderson said patients can
try adding 1/4-1 teaspoon of cinnamon to their food.

The worst that will happen is it won't do any good and the best is that it
will help dramatically, he said. (interview)

Clinical trials using a cinnamon extract on humans are due
to begin in 6 months, Anderson said.Type 2 diabetes is most
often diagnosed in adults over 45 who are overweight. An increasing
number of children and teenagers around the world are developing the disease 
to

increasing rates of obesity and sedentary lifestyles.



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Re: CSWhat is a silver pulser

[Mike and Joyce Blewett]

Marshall, Thanks for the info, I have a Dr. appt. tomorrow.   Joyce
- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: CSWhat is a silver pulser


 The likelihood that the tick was carrying Lymes is quite high if he got
 the bulls eye.  I would give him much more than 6-8 oz, and do it
 several times a day, once a day and most of the CS is gone by morning.
 You don't want to mess around with that. Also take him to a doctor and
 get him on some antibiotics. Lymes is pretty easy to get rid of in the
 first few days, but once it set up, it can be almost impossible to get
 rid of.
 
 Marshall
 
 Mike and Joyce Blewett wrote:
 
  Hi, I'm Joyce and new to the list.  My family and I have been using
  homemade CS for about 4 years with terrific results.  We haven't done
  the conventional antibiotic thing since.  I saw mention of this silver
  pulser thing and have no idea what it is or what it is for could
  someone shed some light.  We also have a situation that could use some
  counsel.  My 5 year old son was bitten by a tick here in Oklahoma
  about 8 days ago and now there is a reddish ring like a bullseye
  around it.  Yesterday the skin within the ring looked bumpy like a
  rash.  We have been giving him about 6-8 oz of CS in the mornings and
  I have no clue how strong it is, but we process it twice if that means
  anything.  Depending on whatever the tick may have had, will CS
  annihilate it or should I be worrying?...Thanks for any advice...Joyce
  at wanderingj...@geotec.net
 
 
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