Re: CSCS in raw (unpasteurised) goat's milk
M. G. Devour wrote: I've never heard of good bacteria in fresh milk, but I'm not an expert. Plenty of them. The ones that make milk go sour. The lactic acid producing bacteria. You've also demonstrated that freezing works to prevent spoilage Not spoilage but going sour. Pasteurized milk, on the other hand, can spoil because it may not contain enough lactic acid forming bacteria. Raw milk is very safe to drink, and it is more digestible and utilizable. Raw milk can be a very effective medicine -- http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html Roman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS in raw (unpasteurised) goat's milk
John A. Stanley wrote: In article gmeakojnalehnmiinoifeeajdbaa@cybermesa.com, James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com wrote: What is quark? It would be charming to know. Quark is a thick cultured milk from Germany. The solid part -- one that remains after separating from whey. It is sometimes called farmer's cheese in the USA. It's easy to make. Just allow milk to sour until separation into solids and whey has occurred. Strain it, and you get quark. Whey is also a healthful food. Roman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTeen brain pain
Some of you health-care professionals out there, what does it mean if a teenager has a sudden stab of pain in the forehead accompanied with a brief fuzziness of vision or hearing? I'm thinking I vaguely remember such a sensation myself at some time in the distant past. Any ideas? Nancy W -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWalmart water caution
5 microsiemens on the PWT is still just fine to make CS with. I actually prefer something around 4.5 Us over the more pure water. Ken At 04:23 PM 8/23/02 -0400, you wrote: I picked up a couple gallons of WalMart's distilled water the other day. I have purchased it before, and had readings too high on the Hanna PWT to feel confident in using it for CS production. I know Ole Bob has tested it repeatedly and has had good results with it. I decided to give it a try again. Not all WalMart waters come from the same water treatment plants. It is dependant on the area of the country. This water is Bottled by: Mayer Bros., Inc. in W. Seneca, NY. The source: Erie County Municipal Water Supply, Buffalo, NY It is labeled Great Value, marketed by WalMart Stores Inc., Bentonville, AR This distilled water, and yes it is labeled distilled, I have it in front of me right now. is testing over 5 with the Hanna PWT. Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWalmart water caution
Don't have any Walgreens in this part of the country. (o: I use Giant Eagle Brand, it tests at 1 or less consistently. It is bottled by the same bottler as Polar water. Probably the same product with the Giant Eagle label instead. Connie Hi Connie, did you ever try Walgreens? Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT: canola oil
Could others please forward to me privately what they feel the most compelling link for NOT using canola oil? TIA, Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTeen brain pain
Dear Nancy, You said: Some of you health-care professionals out there, what does it mean if a teenager has a sudden stab of pain in the forehead accompanied with a brief fuzziness of vision or hearing? I'm thinking I vaguely remember such a sensation myself at some time in the distant past. Any ideas? Is the teen on some pharmaceutical drug, or has s/he been on a pharmaceutical drug for more than 10 days? How about street drug usage ? I won't waste anyone's time by going any further until I see your response. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it...
Hi Jan, I know with the process of making good colloidal silver can sound intimidating with all the discussion about it, but you can buy a very good unit that is as simple to use as pouring distilled water in a glass and turning a switch. Twenty minutes or so later, you turn the unit off and drink your CS. The cost of decent colloidal silver can be as high as $15 - $20 for a few ounces. Why pay that when you can buy a silver maker for around $100 and make a dozens and dozens of gallons for the cost of the distilled water? The commercial stuff is simply too expensive and no one can afford to take it in the amounts that are normally used by people actively taking CS. Don't worry about how hard it is to make. It really is easy to make good quality that is effective without being a rocket scientist. Dennis -Original Message- From: Jan Bolen [mailto:juri...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 12:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSbuying cs instead of making it... Dear list, I have a question that has probably been asked before: If one is a little intimidated by the technical aspects of making one's own cs, (or perhaps, too lazy!) what has proved -- in the lister's experience -- to have been a good brand of cs to buy? I know it is expensive, so I would like to find the best quality for the money I might spend. Thanks in advance. Jan Bolen p.s. the political stuff seems to be a little 'off topic'. _ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! http://rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailsig/new/*http://finance.yahoo.com Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re: CSTeen brain pain
Some of you health-care professionals out there, what does it mean if a teenager has a sudden stab of pain in the forehead accompanied with a brief fuzziness of vision or hearing? I'm thinking I vaguely remember such a sensation myself at some time in the distant past. Any ideas? Nancy W Hoiw long does tha pain last? Is the fuzziness accompanied by flickering? If so, it could be migraines starting up. Is the teen a girl? Migraines accompany menarche occasionally, they did to me and my daughter. Vitamin A 25,000 IU a day, along with 800 IU of E, helps migraines; they keep the blood vessels stretchy, which is the site of migraine pain. Good luck! Marshalee --- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNewbie/Particle Size
Hi, I’m not very familiar with the use if colloidal silver so I though I'd drop in and listen for a while. I usually use herbal and nutrition therapies. I recentlyheard that the particle size makes a big difference in whether or not cs is safe or not. Is this true? Thanks, Becky
Re: CSadding cs to tap water and other personal products
mars larz wrote: first of all the water in my apartment building does not have good filteration it smells a little funky and taste weird when i add a tsp of cs to a gallon of it the smell diappears and the water taste fresher do you think a tsp to a gallon of the water is killing enough bacteria in my water? It could be that, or since silver is an oxidizing catalyst, it could be oxidizing the odor molecules. I have noticed the same thing when used under the arms, or in the garbage disposal. also i add a tsp of cs to my aloe gel and refrigerate it . does refridgration take away the strength of cs? No, but if you don't neutralize the aloe gel the CS with baking soda or something else it will aggregate within a couple of hours making the addition of CS useless. lastly i use a cold cream to get rid of dark blotchy skin this cream has a bleaching agent in it called (hydroquinone2%) would it be safe to add cs to this bleaching cream? ( this bleaching creams purpose is intended to lighten the skin. I have no experience with that. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTeen brain pain
There are migranes that can do that. But normally they take a while to get over. You might want to visit a neurologist. Marshall Tad Winiecki wrote: Some of you health-care professionals out there, what does it mean if a teenager has a sudden stab of pain in the forehead accompanied with a brief fuzziness of vision or hearing? I'm thinking I vaguely remember such a sensation myself at some time in the distant past. Any ideas? Nancy W -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCodex arrives
jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Silver kills germs, and it works on the skin and digestive tract. What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. Long term increases disease. By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS for years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or flu at least monthly to never for the last 4 years. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPoly-mia
Click on edit at the top of the screen, then click on undo. It will all come back immediately as long as you do it before doing anything else. Undo only works on the last thing done. Marshall barnb...@aol.com wrote: HELP !!! I was in the middle of reading the post concerning CS and Poly-mia with the intention of printing out the whole post. Managed to bump the wrong key and lost it all. Can anyone get it back to me, or, how do I retrieve it from archives? Thanks a million Barnbert
Re: CSNewbie/Particle Size
From: rwtnbch...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 10:20:17 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNewbie/Particle Size Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:20:54 -0700 I¹m not very familiar with the use if colloidal silver so I though I'd drop in and listen for a while. I usually use herbal and nutrition therapies. I recentlyheard that the particle size makes a big difference in whether or not cs is safe or not. Is this true? Thanks, Becky Hi Becky, particle size has nothing to do with safety only effectiveness -- in this case, smaller is better. If you decide to buy some CS to try it , I am certain that you are safe. What problem are you trying to cure? Jack
Re: CSmaintaining blood level of CS
Apply fresh Burdlock leaves and drink lots of tea made out of Burdlock root. Vitale
RE: CSTHE MASTER CLEANSE OR LEMONADE DIET
Hi all, I tried the Master Cleanse Diet and highly recommend it. It is amazing that you can consume only lemons and maple syrup (the real stuff) and not feel like your starving. I looked into it quite a bit before starting and found that the nutrients in the maple syrup are very important, and that lemons may be considered a fruit from the tree of life. Between glasses of the lemonade I would consume 1/4 cup of 15 ppm CS 3-4 times a day. I could not tolerate the taste that the cayenne pepper imparted to the mix so I bought a cayenne supplement from a local health food store and took two capsules with each glass of lemonade. The cayenne made it to the stomach without having to taste it. This made the diet very tolerable, without those capsules I don't think I could have drank much of it for long. I made a blender pitcher of it at a time, and I pureed the whole lemon, seeds, rind and all, added the water and maple syrup. It's been about a year and I starting thinking about it again a few weeks ago. I'm going to do it again soon. One last note, apparently the high citric acid content of the lemons is bad for the tooth enamel, so I always rinsed my mouth with water after consumption. The name of book by the author that designed the diet is The Master Cleanser by Stanley Burroughs http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksfield-author=Burroughs%2C%20Stanley/103-4961730-9140612 Amazon.com has it, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963926209/qid=1030217752/sr=2-3/103-4961730-9140612 I got a copy at GNC. Rob
Re: CSCodex arrives does long term use use of cs cause disease?
Marshall Dudley wrote: jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Silver kills germs, and it works on the skin and digestive tract. What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. Long term increases disease. By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS for years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or flu at least monthly to never for the last 4 years. Marshall Are you saying long term use of cs causes disease? how long? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour thank you - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re: CSNewbie/Particle Size
At this point I'm not trying to cure anything, but my son has had frequent sinus infections.
Re: CSTHE MASTER CLEANSE OR LEMONADE DIET
How long is one supposed to stay on the lemonade diet? Summer
Re: CSTHE MASTER CLEANSE OR LEMONADE DIET
Is there a good online source for the grade B or C maple syrup? Connie From: ja...@tir.com ja...@tir.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:49:22 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTHE MASTER CLEANSE OR LEMONADE DIET Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 12:50:10 -0700 Hi all, I tried the Master Cleanse Diet and highly recommend it. It is amazing that you can consume only lemons and maple syrup (the real stuff) and not feel like your starving. I looked into it quite a bit before starting and found that the nutrients in the maple syrup are very important, and that lemons may be considered a fruit from the tree of life. Between glasses of the lemonade I would consume 1/4 cup of 15 ppm CS 3-4 times a day. I could not tolerate the taste that the cayenne pepper imparted to the mix so I bought a cayenne supplement from a local health food store and took two capsules with each glass of lemonade. The cayenne made it to the stomach without having to taste it. This made the diet very tolerable, without those capsules I don't think I could have drank much of it for long. I made a blender pitcher of it at a time, and I pureed the whole lemon, seeds, rind and all, added the water and maple syrup. It's been about a year and I starting thinking about it again a few weeks ago. I'm going to do it again soon. One last note, apparently the high citric acid content of the lemons is bad for the tooth enamel, so I always rinsed my mouth with water after consumption. The name of book by the author that designed the diet is The Master Cleanser by Stanley Burroughs http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=booksamp;field-a uthor=Burroughs%2C%20Stanley/103-4961730-9140612 Amazon.com has it, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963926209/qid=1030217752/sr=2-3/103- 4961730-9140612 I got a copy at GNC. Rob
Re: CSCodex arrives
Marshall writes: jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Silver kills germs... Those quotes were from health journalist Bill Sardi (http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp), and have relayed your observations. I'd asked him about CS out-of-the-blue. Good points; awaiting his response. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.
Hi Jan, I am a firm believer that whatever CS you buy or make, the best results will come from the products that contain the majority of the silver in the form of silver ions and any particles contained in such solution be very small, 10 nanometer or less in diameter, smaller is better. I believe, after much personal study, that products high in silver particles are basically useless compared to silver ion products. Why? Because silver, or any mineral for that matter, must be in ionic form to interact with a biological system. Silver particles are very stable and are not even effected by our stomachs hydrochloric acid. The acid content of the blood is very low also and does little to release ions from the silver particles. Blood is actually slightly basic (non-acid). pH of the plasma is controlled by the body at 7.4 (7.35 - 7.45). Most particles are eliminated by the body before they release many ions. Also, the majority of CS produced by users at home is mainly ionic, and many great results from many different people have been reported with that type of silver, ionic. While it may be true that silver ions are affected by stomach acid and other ions in the blood, our bodies produce a molecule called metalloprotein that latches on to free metallic ions and transport them throughout the body and prevent free ions from affecting it. Our saliva has over 200 different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are metalloproteins. Thus, reactive ions (missing one or more electrons) can be transported past the stomach and through the circulatory system without local reactions. How these metalloproteins with silver ions interact with pathogens is currently beyond my knowledge, however, I should have some of those answers soon. I have been very pleased with the results and the price of the CS supplied by www.silvershield.biz The price I paid works out to 47 cents an ounce. I believe they also have available a constant current generator to produce either a quart or a gallon of CS. There are also links to various studies and information such as I've included here. Good Luck Rob Jan wrote: I have a question that has probably been asked before: If one is a little intimidated by the technical aspects of making one's own cs, (or perhaps, too lazy!) what has proved -- in the lister's experience -- to have been a good brand of cs to buy? I know it is expensive, so I would like to find the best quality for the money I might spend. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...
Jan said: Now I need to know what listers think is a good buy on cs makers (generators?). Hi Jan, I have only been making CS since April 2002. But in that time I have made about 50 gallons for friends and relatives and selling for about 95% off of retail. So far the people who have used my CS have told me that it has helped them with the following problems: Sore throats, ear infections, warts, Acne, 2 cases of Arthritis, diaper rash, an eight year old genital heat/yeast rash, burns, cuts heal faster, yeast infection, mosquito bites, spider bites, a ten year old toe fungus, plant fungus, eye infections, flea bites, mouthwash, after shave, food preservation, cut flowers, water purification, pet's eye infection, allergies, nebulizer breathing treatments for Asthma and Bronchitis, Poison Ivy, Kidney infection, to relieve soreness from breast feeding, cleared up blurry vision for someone, and much more... If you would like similar results. I would highly recommend a CONSTANT CURRENT generator. Here are a few links: www.silvergen.com http://www.pridecomm.cc/cs/ http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html http://www.wishgranted.com/ I use the SG6 from silvergen and it is real easy to use. Other folks swear by other models. Some say that the current should be set around 1 ma. The PS10 is preset at 250 ma, but you could request that they preset it at 1 ma and save some money. You can buy . silver at www.ccsilver.com . If you still don't want to make it, let me know. Keith Pittman pittscollo...@hotmail.com (If anyone sells this email address to a list, I'll change it)
Re: CSCodex arrives
Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL GERMS. But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. WHY DO ALL THE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FOLKS UNDERGO CHELATION THERAPY? TO GET RID OF THESE MINERALS. Long term increases disease. By what mechanism? If that were true then why do those who have used CS for years almost never get sick? I have gone from a cold or flu at least monthly to never for the last 4 years. 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE NO OUTLET FOR IT. Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about that before. Thanks, Marshall. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...
On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 17:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Jan Bolen juri...@yahoo.com wrote: Another question, although I'm not sure this one is relevant to this list. My daughter just told me about a friend of hers -- a frail 80 year old man that has cancer and is going through chemotherapy. His biggest problem right now -- and this is no laughing matter -- is that he has severe hiccups, every five to ten seconds -- and is losing his will to live. He was told that it was a side effect to the chemotherapy. My question is: would colloidal silver, say, sprayed from a nebulizer, do anything to alleviate that problem? Probably not, but you never know Oh my, Hiccough cures... This always worked. Hold your hands over his ears while he drinks a small glass of water. Chuck Every time I find out the meaning of life, they change it -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSadding cs to tap water and other personal products
mars, If there is bacteria in the water then the CS will kill it, but it is more likely that the silver ions are bonding with the chlorine or other odour producing chemicals. Refrigeration does not affect CS. http://ska.safeserver.com/bleachingrx.html What are bleaching products? Bleaching products are used to suppress pigmentation in order to lighten hyperpigmented areas. There are two well known products with bleaching mechanisms effective on the skin, hydroquinone and kojic acid. Another effective product for bleaching and evening pigmented spots is Mandelic Acid. These are used to treat various pigmented spots such as age spots, melasma, and freckles. Hydroquinone lightens the color of the skin areas to which it is applied by killing off the melanin making cells (known as the melanocyte). It is the only FDA approved product for bleaching. It does this for about 60-70% of its users. LustraR is one of the most well known prescription hydroquinone products. Its 4% Hydroquinone concentration can provide results in as little as four weeks. Lustra can be obtained from a pharmacy with a doctor's precription. Any hydroquinone products available without requiring a prescription cannot have more than 2% hydroquinone. Medical researchers have established that 70% of patients who use skin creams containing Hydroquinone for an extended period of time (one-three years) develop Exogenous Ochronosis, an irreversible disfiguring cosmetic problem. Cosmetic Ochronosis, Cosmetic Ochronosis (also known as Exogenous Ochronosis) was first described by Findlay and his group of researchers in 1975. This group found that the continued use of HQ based skin bleaching products lead to a progressive discoloration of the skin. However, since most hydroquinone products are used only within a three month period, this is usually not a problem. When using Hydroquinone, it is imperative to stay out of the sun for the treatment to work. Always wear full spectrum sunblock and a hat. Exposure to sun deteriorates the hydroquinone, rendering it ineffective. If you are planning on being in the sun, use a hydroquinone-free formula, such as the pHaze13 *HQ free Pigment Gel. Is this the best product for you? In any event, I do not know whether CS will form compounds with the Hydroquinone or anything else present in the cream, but I cannot see any reason for adding CS to the cream in the first place. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: mars larz [mailto:pp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2002 3:40 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSadding cs to tap water and other personal products first of all the water in my apartment building does not have good filteration it smells a little funky and taste weird when i add a tsp of cs to a gallon of it the smell diappears and the water taste fresher do you think a tsp to a gallon of the water is killing enough bacteria in my water? also i add a tsp of cs to my aloe gel and refrigerate it . does refridgration take away the strength of cs? lastly i use a cold cream to get rid of dark blotchy skin this cream has a bleaching agent in it called (hydroquinone2%) would it be safe to add cs to this bleaching cream? ( this bleaching creams purpose is intended to lighten the skin. thank you Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCodex arrives
jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: Bill Sardi's reply (in caps) to Marshall's observations: FROM: Bill Sardi, Knowledge of Health, Inc. What does works on the skin and digestive tract mean? METALS KILLS BUGS, LIKE RUST IN WATER. I don't follow this at all. As far as I know rust does not kill any bacteria, and in fact there are certain bacteria that feed on iron and actually make rust. GENERATES FREE RADICALS THAT KILL GERMS. That would be quite a feat. A free radical has more energy than a compound at ground state. This can be done by any element or compound that takes place in a reaction, but silver does not react at all, it is simply a catalyst. So if indeed silver can create free radicals without any external energy input, we have discovered a new energy source and our energy problems should be solved! What documentation is there for this amazing feat? But it is a heavy metal that is being induced into the body. HEAVY METALS LIKE LEAD, MERCURY, CADMIUM, WHICH SLOWLY BUILD UP IN THE BODY AND CONTRIBUTE TO DISEASE. Silver is not a heavy metal, it is a transition metal. It is totally non-toxic. WHO SAYS? SO IS IRON A TRANSITION METAL AND IT GENERATES MOST DISEASE WHEN IT IS UNBOUND. ANY OF THESE METALS CAN GENERATE TOXICITY. Iron is absolutely necessary for life for any form that uses hemoglobin. Too much of it is toxic. Small amounts are absolutely essential. We are talking about amounts of silver probably 1/10,000 of that which is considered safe for iron. What evidence is there for toxicity for silver metal? I have been looking for ANY study that has shown that for silver for years, and have never come up with a single one. If you know of one, I would sure like to see it. 4 YEARS IS NOT LONG TERM. GIVE YOURSELF MORE TIME. What evidence do you have for this claim? Those who have been taking it as long as it has been available to the general public have never reported any problems that I am aware of. If no one has been taking it long enough to cause these problems, then how do you know they are problems? ALSO IRON IS BUILDING UP IN YOUR TISSUES, AS OCCURS IN ALL MALES WHO HAVE NO OUTLET FOR IT. I agree with that. The body binds iron. The body doe not bind silver. We are comparing apples and oranges here. Silver is a noble metal, iron is a ferris metal. Well, maybe the iron thing is worth checking out; hadn't heard about that before. Yes it is true. Too much iron can be a real problem for men. It normally is not for women, except after menopause, or if they have had a hysterectomy. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCodex arrives
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: If it becomes a concern (iron buildup), giving blood periodically is a way out. Chuck Yes, doctors and barbers use to do that. It might have helped those who had iron posioning, but for most it was not an assist. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...
As to hiccups- Personally, I've always found eating peanet butter to work. cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 17:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Jan Bolen juri...@yahoo.com wrote: Another question, although I'm not sure this one is relevant to this list. My daughter just told me about a friend of hers -- a frail 80 year old man that has cancer and is going through chemotherapy. His biggest problem right now -- and this is no laughing matter -- is that he has severe hiccups, every five to ten seconds -- and is losing his will to live. He was told that it was a side effect to the chemotherapy. My question is: would colloidal silver, say, sprayed from a nebulizer, do anything to alleviate that problem? Probably not, but you never know Oh my, Hiccough cures... This always worked. Hold your hands over his ears while he drinks a small glass of water. Chuck Every time I find out the meaning of life, they change it -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbuying cs instead of making it.
elixsil...@citlink.net wrote: I have been doing some reading on the silver websites lately and I see someone saying that ionic silver crosses the cell wall. Is not that a problem? I've always thought silver smothers anaerobically metabolizing organisms from the outside thereby harming no aerobically metabolizing organisms. Nope, silver kills both quite effectively. Since many bacteria can switch from one to the other that is good. If it crosses into the cell can it not then harm it somehow? Silver is non toxic to mammelian cells. Also, in my early experiments of '98 I found vit.C/ascorbic acid to work the best as an electrolyte- virtually always bringing the ions to colloidal size-thus the yellow coloration shows itself. Making yellow colloids is what I learned from DR. Peter Reynolds and others. I do not understand ionic. It seems to me it is just another way of saying molecular, which I equate with bad. No ionic is atomic, with one or more extra or missing electrons. If you have a cation though, it can form a compound. Who were the first one or two people to promote ionic and where is their research to be found. I want to be able to debunk it properly or not at all. Can anyone answer this. There has been a lot of discussion here on ionic vs colloidal. Since most LVDC CS is 90 to 95% ionic, there has been some speculation that ionic is taking part in the action. There is good evidence that silver kills pathogens both in metalic and ionic form. For instance, silver metal is used to sterlize water for airplanes, the shuttle, and many water filters. Silver nitrate, which has an ionic form of silver along with a nitrate radical has a long history of killing bacteria, and has been used, and still is, in newborn baby's eyes to kill gonneriah. It appears that both forms work. Which works better is still up for dispute. But there are other things to look at. 1. ionic form can cause blueing of the skin under some circumstances with high dosages. It is generally believed that colloid cannot do this. 2. ionic can penetrate into cells easier than colloid. This can possibly be good for topical applications trying to get to something under the skin. DMSO appears to be capable of carrying ionic silver deep into tissues easily. It is debatable whether DMSO can accomplish this with colloid. 3. colloid will not end up reacting with the HCl in the stomach and precipitating out like ionic would be expected to do. So the best guess I have is that ionic might be best for topical application, and colloidal for taking internally. Since most CS is a combination of the two, then it is very effective in all respects. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbuying cs instead of making it.
I have been doing some reading on the silver websites lately and I see someone saying that ionic silver crosses the cell wall. Is not that a problem? I've always thought silver smothers anaerobically metabolizing organisms from the outside thereby harming no aerobically metabolizing organisms. If it crosses into the cell can it not then harm it somehow? Also, in my early experiments of '98 I found vit.C/ascorbic acid to work the best as an electrolyte- virtually always bringing the ions to colloidal size-thus the yellow coloration shows itself. Making yellow colloids is what I learned from DR. Peter Reynolds and others. I do not understand ionic. It seems to me it is just another way of saying molecular, which I equate with bad. Who were the first one or two people to promote ionic and where is their research to be found. I want to be able to debunk it properly or not at all. Can anyone answer this. Johnny Silverseed author: C/S @ntibiotic Superhero ja...@tir.com writes: Hi Jan, I am a firm believer that whatever CS you buy or make, the best results will come from the products that contain the majority of the silver in the form of silver ions and any particles contained in such solution be very small, 10 nanometer or less in diameter, smaller is better. I believe, after much personal study, that products high in silver particles are basically useless compared to silver ion products. Why? Because silver, or any mineral for that matter, must be in ionic form to interact with a biological system. Silver particles are very stable and are not even effected by our stomachs hydrochloric acid. The acid content of the blood is very low also and does little to release ions from the silver particles. Blood is actually slightly basic (non-acid). pH of the plasma is controlled by the body at 7.4 (7.35 - 7.45). Most particles are eliminated by the body before they release many ions. Also, the majority of CS produced by users at home is mainly ionic, and many great results from many different people have been reported with that type of silver, ionic. While it may be true that silver ions are affected by stomach acid and other ions in the blood, our bodies produce a molecule called metalloprotein that latches on to free metallic ions and transport them throughout the body and prevent free ions from affecting it. Our saliva has over 200 different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are metalloproteins. Thus, reactive ions (missing one or more electrons) can be transported past the stomach and through the circulatory system without local reactions. How these metalloproteins with silver ions interact with pathogens is currently beyond my knowledge, however, I should have some of those answers soon. I have been very pleased with the results and the price of the CS supplied by www.silvershield.biz The price I paid works out to 47 cents an ounce. I believe they also have available a constant current generator to produce either a quart or a gallon of CS. There are also links to various studies and information such as I've included here. Good Luck Rob Jan wrote: I have a question that has probably been asked before: If one is a little intimidated by the technical aspects of making one's own cs, (or perhaps, too lazy!) what has proved -- in the lister's experience -- to have been a good brand of cs to buy? I know it is expensive, so I would like to find the best quality for the money I might spend. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbuying cs instead of making it.
On ionic silver: why do those who promote it as better use the Tyndall test as a way to see the particles? Tyndall spoke of a glowing cone in his work. There is no cone in solutions of ionic silver- and those that do this test on ionic silver use a laser rather than a flashlight. What's up with that? I want to see a cone not some little flecks in a beam of light. That's what the Tyndall test is. A misleading bit of information methinks... and if some misleading info is used- how much more is there? ja...@tir.com writes: Hi Jan, I am a firm believer that whatever CS you buy or make, the best results will come from the products that contain the majority of the silver in the form of silver ions and any particles contained in such solution be very small, 10 nanometer or less in diameter, smaller is better. I believe, after much personal study, that products high in silver particles are basically useless compared to silver ion products. Why? Because silver, or any mineral for that matter, must be in ionic form to interact with a biological system. Silver particles are very stable and are not even effected by our stomachs hydrochloric acid. The acid content of the blood is very low also and does little to release ions from the silver particles. Blood is actually slightly basic (non-acid). pH of the plasma is controlled by the body at 7.4 (7.35 - 7.45). Most particles are eliminated by the body before they release many ions. Also, the majority of CS produced by users at home is mainly ionic, and many great results from many different people have been reported with that type of silver, ionic. While it may be true that silver ions are affected by stomach acid and other ions in the blood, our bodies produce a molecule called metalloprotein that latches on to free metallic ions and transport them throughout the body and prevent free ions from affecting it. Our saliva has over 200 different proteins and fully one third of body proteins are metalloproteins. Thus, reactive ions (missing one or more electrons) can be transported past the stomach and through the circulatory system without local reactions. How these metalloproteins with silver ions interact with pathogens is currently beyond my knowledge, however, I should have some of those answers soon. I have been very pleased with the results and the price of the CS supplied by www.silvershield.biz The price I paid works out to 47 cents an ounce. I believe they also have available a constant current generator to produce either a quart or a gallon of CS. There are also links to various studies and information such as I've included here. Good Luck Rob Jan wrote: I have a question that has probably been asked before: If one is a little intimidated by the technical aspects of making one's own cs, (or perhaps, too lazy!) what has proved -- in the lister's experience -- to have been a good brand of cs to buy? I know it is expensive, so I would like to find the best quality for the money I might spend. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...
After replicating my first borrowed three-battery unit, the very next thing I used to make silver with was jumper cables. Yes- I thought ...I've already got a big battery- and it worked just fine. So I found a gizmo and put it into the cigarette lighter. Neater. Later I found RadioShack sold my little invention for charging cell phones! Then I saw they had the transformer I had been experimenting with. Both for cheap! I do not see giving up the big bucks for someones idea of a generator when you can make the stuff from an old telephone answering machine powerpack.- Hell I even put silver wire into the two center slots of that little clear phone plug- you know the one- it goes into the wall...Voila! The worlds' simplest(TM) colloidal silver generator! Who needs switching, auto shut off, ppm meters and the like. Just make a batch you're happy with from something you probably already own. Hopefully it's not disposable batteries...solar panels anyone? Johnny Silverseed- author: C/S @ntibiotic Superhero Jan Bolen writes: I know with the process of making good colloidal silver can sound intimidating with all the discussion about it, but you can buy a very good unit that is as simple to use as pouring distilled water in a glass and turning a switch. Twenty minutes or so later, you turn the unit off and drink your CS. Thanks, Dennis, Now I need to know what listers think is a good buy on cs makers (generators?). I know one person who works with Dr. Clark, who makes and sells them for $50. I don't know how good hers are. I think people's own personal experiences are a good yardstick, so.. any feedback? Another question, although I'm not sure this one is relevant to this list. My daughter just told me about a friend of hers -- a frail 80 year old man that has cancer and is going through chemotherapy. His biggest problem right now -- and this is no laughing matter -- is that he has severe hiccups, every five to ten seconds -- and is losing his will to live. He was told that it was a side effect to the chemotherapy. My question is: would colloidal silver, say, sprayed from a nebulizer, do anything to alleviate that problem? Probably not, but you never know thanks, Jan Bolen - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNewbie/Particle Size
Jack Dayton writes: If smaller is better, it must be presumed you mean ionic as yellow colloids are larger than ionic silver. The color comes as a result of size, btw. Ionic is new on the silver scene, relatively speaking. For years those lettered researchers in the know touted only yellow to gold in coloration knowing that clear silver was molecular i.e...bad. So if smaller(ionic) is better- why have so many testimonials been given unto me after the ingestion of yellow c/s? It seems they both work to stop disease organisms from ravaging the body. BUT- does ionic (clear) silver have the same effects of cellular dedifferentiation? Does it stop cancers, scar tissue and God knows what else. I'm sceptical on clear silver if for no other reason than as a novice I was making what I thought was clear sol;ution onlyu to become educated and find out I was making a low PPM solution of large, grey colloids...the cause of agryria. Granted- at low PPM's but these too build up within the body over time It would take decades to contract agryria with large grey colloids at these low PPM but I suggest it is not good to try and teach a novice how to ingest anything other than a yellow solution for this reason. Keep in mind almost all storebought yellow solution is only yellow because of foodcoloring...92% according to the founder of Arabesque, Dr. Peter Reynolds. Ph. D. From: rwtnbch...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 10:20:17 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNewbie/Particle Size Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:20:54 -0700 I¹m not very familiar with the use if colloidal silver so I though I'd drop in and listen for a while. I usually use herbal and nutrition therapies. I recentlyheard that the particle size makes a big difference in whether or not cs is safe or not. Is this true? Thanks, Becky Hi Becky, particle size has nothing to do with safety only effectiveness -- in this case, smaller is better. If you decide to buy some CS to try it , I am certain that you are safe. What problem are you trying to cure? Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: canola oil
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/Canola.html Ivan. -Original Message- From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net] Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:55 a.m. To: silver- list; CSCats -Dogs Subject: CSOT: canola oil Could others please forward to me privately what they feel the most compelling link for NOT using canola oil? TIA, Connie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...
I don't understand electrical charging. Could you explain the difference between a two battery generator and a three voltage one. I thought it was as simple as having equal voltage of negative and positive charge!!! - Original Message - From: elixsil...@citlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:14 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it... After replicating my first borrowed three-battery unit, the very next thing I used to make silver with was jumper cables. Yes- I thought ...I've already got a big battery- and it worked just fine. So I found a gizmo and put it into the cigarette lighter. Neater. Later I found RadioShack sold my little invention for charging cell phones! Then I saw they had the transformer I had been experimenting with. Both for cheap! I do not see giving up the big bucks for someones idea of a generator when you can make the stuff from an old telephone answering machine powerpack.- Hell I even put silver wire into the two center slots of that little clear phone plug- you know the one- it goes into the wall...Voila! The worlds' simplest(TM) colloidal silver generator! Who needs switching, auto shut off, ppm meters and the like. Just make a batch you're happy with from something you probably already own. Hopefully it's not disposable batteries...solar panels anyone? Johnny Silverseed- author: C/S @ntibiotic Superhero Jan Bolen writes: I know with the process of making good colloidal silver can sound intimidating with all the discussion about it, but you can buy a very good unit that is as simple to use as pouring distilled water in a glass and turning a switch. Twenty minutes or so later, you turn the unit off and drink your CS. Thanks, Dennis, Now I need to know what listers think is a good buy on cs makers (generators?). I know one person who works with Dr. Clark, who makes and sells them for $50. I don't know how good hers are. I think people's own personal experiences are a good yardstick, so.. any feedback? Another question, although I'm not sure this one is relevant to this list. My daughter just told me about a friend of hers -- a frail 80 year old man that has cancer and is going through chemotherapy. His biggest problem right now -- and this is no laughing matter -- is that he has severe hiccups, every five to ten seconds -- and is losing his will to live. He was told that it was a side effect to the chemotherapy. My question is: would colloidal silver, say, sprayed from a nebulizer, do anything to alleviate that problem? Probably not, but you never know thanks, Jan Bolen - Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
