CSswilled liquor or water for pigs?
Why the name silverswill If you look up in the dictionary you will find the definition of a swill 1: to swallow greedily 2:a semiliquid food for animals especially swine composed of the animal or vegtable refuse of kitchens, markets,or stores, mixed with water; also such a food made of distillery waste (garbage) 3:the swilling of liquor; swilled liquor, also a swig I suppose I could have used silverswig but does it sound right??? I guess i will allow you to pick which defintion best fits __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: warts
In a message dated 11/9/02 1:24:48 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Haven't used cs on warts, but tea tree oil, Haven't used either but apple cider vinegar used full strength will take it off in about 7 days. If it is in easy location soak 10 minutes are more twice daily. The wart turns black, meaning dead, continue and in a couple of days GONE. If not in a good area use cottonball or gauze absorbed place for about the same length of time. Sometimes overnight wrapping is suggested. It works here! and as all know, I use it for everything (douze myself in it and drink it too) Jane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: warts
I understand that using duct tape on warts will also remove them but it may take longer than 7 days. DL darocks...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/9/02 1:24:48 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Haven't used cs on warts, but tea tree oil, Haven't used either but apple cider vinegar used full strength will take it off in about 7 days. If it is in easy location soak 10 minutes are more twice daily. The wart turns black, meaning dead, continue and in a couple of days GONE. If not in a good area use cottonball or gauze absorbed place for about the same length of time. Sometimes overnight wrapping is suggested. It works here! and as all know, I use it for everything (douze myself in it and drink it too) Jane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed Source of Quality DMSO
try this place http://www.store.yahoo.com/dmso1/dmso.html - Original Message - From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:53 PM Subject: CSNeed Source of Quality DMSO Hi all, I vaguely recall someone posting a web address and prices for DSMO recently. However, I can't find it in the archives (too many posts and too many subjects with the same subject). I did a search, but seem to come up with sites stating gels for external use only. Where can I buy pharmaceutical grade pure DMSO (powder?) at a reasonable price? TIA, Jannette -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
According to the books by Jacob and Herschler about DMSO and MSM, the biggest difference between them is the lack of transport properties of MSM. If you want to transport a small molecular weight substance throughout the body almost instantly, use DMSO. MSM will not do that. Otherwise, they seem to have very similar therapeutic effects by themselves, while MSM lacks the distinctive odor. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
True, they are not the same thing, in the same way that caffeine and guarana are ooh so similar... but my understanding is that DMSO, DMSA and MSM all become the same thing within the body. I think we need the advice of a nutritionist here...are there any here? Regards Rod - Original Message - From: Robb Allen To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:13 AM Subject: Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM Hi there...they are not the same substance...there is one molecule difference..there are many instances when one molecule can mean the difference between safe and poison..I don't think msm is as good of a vehicle as DMSO..but I don't know this for sureRobb - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: Silver List Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: CSCS DMSO/MSM Regarding the use of DMSO with CS, I assume the delivery action would be the same with MSM as DMSO as they are virtually the same substance with the same effects. Anyone have any insight into this? I mix my CS with MSM. Thanks, Paul Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
Mikedo you have any suggestionif one were to mix a little DMSO with CS for to be taken internally.how much of each?.Robb I hesitate to say anything because I read the books a month ago and can't remember much of what they said. So far my only experience with DMSO is in minute amounts internally in nose spray or nebulizer treatments, and modest amounts topically. I don't think it was too critical exactly how much to use. Folks took it in juice, if I remember right, but the general amounts, whether milligrams or ounces, I really can't remember, so please wait 'til somebody chimes in with better info. I'm concentrating right now on taking 4-6 grams per day of MSM. It's one thing that I've seen which does make a noticeable difference in my level of vigor when I'm taking it. How's your lady friend's son doing? Be well, sir! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Oz
Dear Paul, she needs your email address! Marsha, I would really like to know the specifics about your friend contracting Argyria. Do you think they would be willing to share the details? Specifically, I would like to know: 1. How much of the product they were using and for how long before they contracted Argyria. 2. Have they ever used any other silver products and if so, what brand, when (i.e. just before starting with Wateroz), how much and for how long. 3. Have they ever tried a heavy metal detox or used supplements such as Vitamin E and Selenium to get rid of the Argyria. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Paul mamapug mama...@netzero.net wrote: Water Oz gave a friend of mine argyria. Just thought you`d like to know. Marshalee Thanks for your post... I have asked so many times the process, but the sales department seems to be kept totally in the dark...stories of being heated to a crystalline state is as far as I can get...some company at one time trying to do a hostile take over to get their process...and when I try to get a list of the 70/80 + minerals in Water of Life there is no list... Mind you, I have been using the products and some of them seem quite good, ie calcium/mag... but some of the other things I was looking for have not happened...I have a shelf full and will give it one more go... Would be most interested in any information anyone has on it... last time I asked ! I got a private message to buy someone else's product...super duper silver...and that is definitely not what I am looking for... I want concrete information... if they are using a chemical, what is the best guess it is(the chloride thing ?)...and what effect would it have on someone taking it...and how effective would it make the mineral... and does it constitute a huge ruse... anyone know... thanks, a rose _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, add! ress your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
Rod Stevenson r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk wrote: True, they are not the same thing, in the same way that caffeine and guarana are ooh so similar... but my understanding is that DMSO, DMSA and MSM all become the same thing within the body. Yes, they become sulfur in the body (not sure about DMSA) and, according to Beth Ley, PhD, they produce the same effects. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSswilled liquor or water for pigs?
Corbin, When I heard the name, the first thing that popped into my head was pigs. Swig doesn't seem to be a very good fit either. I would rethink the name. And, you might want to pay someone a few bucks to rewrite your homepage. It needs some serious help. Also, selling 4 oz of Sovereign Silver for $40 seems a little pricey since the MSRP is $24. Hope this helps. Paul - Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSswilled liquor or water for pigs?
I thought of stinking pigs, too. Yuck. And why sell CS at all? Just tell folks how to make their own for a few cents a gallon, and have a clear conscience! The knowledge of CS should be free for everyone who will listen, IMHO. Marshalee Corbin, When I heard the name, the first thing that popped into my head was pigs. Swig doesn't seem to be a very good fit either. I would rethink the name. And, you might want to pay someone a few bucks to rewrite your homepage. It needs some serious help. Also, selling 4 oz of Sovereign Silver for $40 seems a little pricey since the MSRP is $24. Hope this helps. Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
RE: CSCS DMSO/MSM
According to the research of Brooks Bradley's group and others, MSM facillates transport through the cell wall; DMSO distributes the transported substance; virtually anything below a certain molecular weight, throughout the body and within a matter of seconds. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Paul Ladendorf [mailto:paulldn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:59 PM To: Silver List Subject: CSCS DMSO/MSM Regarding the use of DMSO with CS, I assume the delivery action would be the same with MSM as DMSO as they are virtually the same substance with the same effects. Anyone have any insight into this? I mix my CS with MSM. Thanks, Paul -- Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Plenty of evidence exists for the use of antioxidants to reduce inflammation in the autoimmune diseases, and particularly the use of a glutathione producer as well. Glutathione increase is of great importance because it regenerates other used-up antioxidants, it's essential to the Krebs energy cycle, it quenches free radicals and removes many toxins itself, and perhaps most importantly in these cases, it skews imflammatory responses (TH2) toward non-inflammatory response (TH1) in the first place, which allows the body to heal itself. The proper way to do it is with precursors; take the precursors (cold- processed whey) with selenium, 200-600 mcg daily is plenty for most people with issues. Also, other antioxidants are often overlooked. ALA and CoQ10 are very useful to the krebs cycle and to quench free radicals at the source inside the cells, and resurrecting each other. Similarly the water-soluble and oil-soluble antioxidants each have roles that are not swapped off very well by other antioxidants, so a complete antioxidant therapy is very useful: A, C, E, s, ALA, glutathione (whey isolate), and b-complex helps. Some would add other catalysts based on analysis but these would be the basis of all antioxidant theapies. Then we can get fancier with the carotenoids, tocotrienols, lycopene and such if we like. Once a person has 'jacked themselves out of the hole' with attention to these details, perhaps, just perhaps, diet alone will maintain them that way. I believe in the continued use of antioxidants though, because I treat age-related degeneration and this is an important part of a longevity program. I have specific examples of the mechanics of how several disorders respond to antioxidant therapy. regards, Duncan Crow Cause, Celiac is a genitic disorder. The only way to live a full life with Celiac is to not eat Gluten. Then you will be fine. You can take silver till you are blue in the face, and you will still have the genetic defect. But if your symptoms are caused by a patogen, that's another story. Silver will help you there. - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime aquaintance of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone undiagnosed for many years because she was overweight and so didn't fit the conventional diagnosis profile. Given the damage that celiac causes, it would be a wonder if there weren't all sorts of complicating infections present in the intestines. paula -- From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSComment on Earlier Post on EWOT
A week or so ago I posted a comment on using supplemental oxygen while exercising (EWOT). In the body of the discussion I referred to the employment of nasal-type oxygen masks. I would like to take this opportunity to clarify the effectiveness of this type of device. The little nose-type oxygen fitting utilized in most hospitals WAS NOT an acceptable variation. It looks good on television, but is almost useless for achieving the desired results for EWOTAdditionally, the best resultsby far.resulted from the use of non-rebreathing type masks. Additionally, I did not elaborate on, exactly, how we achieved the highest levels of O2 availability. The reason for this was becausein a controlled laboratory setting, you can do many things not practical otherwise. e.g. Being able to modify the equipment without attendant dangers to the volunteer, etc. My recommendation to other researchers/experimenters is to utilize the bag-type rebreather mask and DO NOT close the safety vent (although this would result in 100% Fl 02.). Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Wow, this was a great post! I will try this out as a supportive detox treatment for Lyme to push me to a constant 100, I am hitting 90% days now, but I still have my share of not so good days. Cause if I am going to be killing a lot of keets, I may need something to help detox. Anything Lyme specific you recommend? I just need that 'thing' to push me over. Cause right now, I still feel 'toxic'. Which is the thing that makes me feel 'bad'. According to my cultures, they are slowly going away, but I am afraid the cultures to not represent the toxic load in my body right now. - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Plenty of evidence exists for the use of antioxidants to reduce inflammation in the autoimmune diseases, and particularly the use of a glutathione producer as well. Glutathione increase is of great importance because it regenerates other used-up antioxidants, it's essential to the Krebs energy cycle, it quenches free radicals and removes many toxins itself, and perhaps most importantly in these cases, it skews imflammatory responses (TH2) toward non-inflammatory response (TH1) in the first place, which allows the body to heal itself. The proper way to do it is with precursors; take the precursors (cold- processed whey) with selenium, 200-600 mcg daily is plenty for most people with issues. Also, other antioxidants are often overlooked. ALA and CoQ10 are very useful to the krebs cycle and to quench free radicals at the source inside the cells, and resurrecting each other. Similarly the water-soluble and oil-soluble antioxidants each have roles that are not swapped off very well by other antioxidants, so a complete antioxidant therapy is very useful: A, C, E, s, ALA, glutathione (whey isolate), and b-complex helps. Some would add other catalysts based on analysis but these would be the basis of all antioxidant theapies. Then we can get fancier with the carotenoids, tocotrienols, lycopene and such if we like. Once a person has 'jacked themselves out of the hole' with attention to these details, perhaps, just perhaps, diet alone will maintain them that way. I believe in the continued use of antioxidants though, because I treat age-related degeneration and this is an important part of a longevity program. I have specific examples of the mechanics of how several disorders respond to antioxidant therapy. regards, Duncan Crow Cause, Celiac is a genitic disorder. The only way to live a full life with Celiac is to not eat Gluten. Then you will be fine. You can take silver till you are blue in the face, and you will still have the genetic defect. But if your symptoms are caused by a patogen, that's another story. Silver will help you there. - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime aquaintance of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone undiagnosed for many years because she was overweight and so didn't fit the conventional diagnosis profile. Given the damage that celiac causes, it would be a wonder if there weren't all sorts of complicating infections present in the intestines. paula -- From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
Mikedo you have any suggestionif one were to mix a little DMSO with CS for to be taken internally.how much of each?.Robb - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM According to the books by Jacob and Herschler about DMSO and MSM, the biggest difference between them is the lack of transport properties of MSM. If you want to transport a small molecular weight substance throughout the body almost instantly, use DMSO. MSM will not do that. Otherwise, they seem to have very similar therapeutic effects by themselves, while MSM lacks the distinctive odor. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn t seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
Re: CSwarts
What about moles? Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:59:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSwarts CS mixed with aloe vera I have found to be good for removing warts as well. Marshall Shirley Reed wrote: Haven't used cs on warts, but tea tree oil, full strength, applied daily for a couple of weeks will take 'em off. Also have heard that GSE, full strength and band-aided for a few days will work. Check www.nutriteam.com site. Best wishes. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
RE: CSFDA proposes testing smallpox vaccine on children 2-5 yrs. old
I believe that our government through the Senate and Congress has mandated the testing of a lot of drugs on children. What I think is the problem, is that these drugs get tested on adults, mainly men, then when approved by the FDA, pediatricians start prescribing them for children. Roxanne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM
Hi again...Her son is back home as of today.but still has dark circles under his eyesand he doesn't look good at all.we'll seeRobb - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM Mikedo you have any suggestionif one were to mix a little DMSO with CS for to be taken internally.how much of each?.Robb I hesitate to say anything because I read the books a month ago and can't remember much of what they said. So far my only experience with DMSO is in minute amounts internally in nose spray or nebulizer treatments, and modest amounts topically. I don't think it was too critical exactly how much to use. Folks took it in juice, if I remember right, but the general amounts, whether milligrams or ounces, I really can't remember, so please wait 'til somebody chimes in with better info. I'm concentrating right now on taking 4-6 grams per day of MSM. It's one thing that I've seen which does make a noticeable difference in my level of vigor when I'm taking it. How's your lady friend's son doing? Be well, sir! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn't seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is. I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here image/gif
Re: CSWater Oz
If she does respond please share anything that she will let you share with us... still no response to the process...is there any heat extraction, crystallization or what ever involved...or is is simple chemical extraction...and is it anyone's best guess it is chloride? And is that all we have, best guesses??? I was told by an employee there that a doctor took the minerals to the same lab that does lab work for MD Anderson Cancer Hospital in Houston, Texas. The lab supposedly verified that there were indeed minerals in the water by one test, and that indeed they were completely water soluble because even under the highest magnification the mineral particles could not be seen. Now, is this possible? I do not have the scientific background to know if this kind of statement is even a possible truth...or to the educated scientific mind this would immediately be seen as a hoax. I do know that when it was brought up on the list that the ppm's on the silver had been reduced from 150 to 100 that I called and inquired as to why. The woman I always deal with whom I would call friend, said she was given no explanation. I said is that no odd, but she had not questioned it. Just like when I tried to get the list of the 70 or 80+ minerals in Water of Life...if they know that there are that many minerals in there then surely there must be a list somewhere of the minerals. Otherwise, how would you know. I am perplexed at the lack of information I am able to get. I was told that they used to publish the names of the labs that tested their product but the labs requested they no longer be listed as they were getting too many inquiry calls from the general public. At first I believed all of this...but now I have questions. There are so many things I cannot get answers to. If they are using a chloride, is that safe with gold, copper, iron etc...again, do not have the background to know. If anyone can shed any light on this, even in a pm if this is getting off topic (is it?) I would most appreciate any information. thanks so much... a rose _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFDA proposes testing smallpox vaccine on children 2-5 yrs. old
Hi Roxanne On the pain of repeating myself--- The FDA has thousands of paper-shuffling drones on its payroll. These essentially worthless people would make an ideal army of test mice. Whatever number that demised due to the FDA's errors in judgement would be a small loss. Regards Bob
Re: CSWater Oz
Hello, Your questions probably are off topic and that's probably why no one is responding. But I am interested because I sell their products at my health food store. I wish I had some answers for you. Again I will ask you which products you got benefit from and what were the benefits? Thanks, Paul a rose by any other name palulu...@hotmail.com wrote:If she does respond please share anything that she will let you share with us... still no response to the process...is there any heat extraction, crystallization or what ever involved...or is is simple chemical extraction...and is it anyone's best guess it is chloride? And is that all we have, best guesses??? I was told by an employee there that a doctor took the minerals to the same lab that does lab work for MD Anderson Cancer Hospital in Houston, Texas. The lab supposedly verified that there were indeed minerals in the water by one test, and that indeed they were completely water soluble because even under the highest magnification the mineral particles could not be seen. Now, is this possible? I do not have the scientific background to know if this kind of statement is even a possible truth...or to the educated scientific mind this would immediately be seen as a hoax. I do know that when it was brought up on the list that the ppm's on the silver had been reduced from 150 to 100 that I called and inquired as to why. The woman I always deal with whom I would call friend, said she was given no explanation. I said is that no odd, but she had not questioned it. Just like when I tried to get the list of the 70 or 80+ minerals in Water of Life...if they know that there are that many minerals in there then surely there must be a list somewhere of the minerals. Otherwise, how would you know. I am perplexed at the lack of information I am able to get. I was told that they used to publish the names of the labs that tested their product but the labs requested they no longer be listed as they were getting too many inquiry calls from the general public. At first I believed all of this...but now I have questions. There are so many things I cannot get answers to. If they are using a chloride, is that safe with gold, copper, iron etc...again, do not have the background to know. If anyone can shed any light on this, even in a pm if this is getting off topic (is it?) I would most appreciate any information. thanks so much... a rose _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Could it be they are all the same mycoplasma invading different cells? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Cases of MS also are also linked to: - Bread allergy. (Celiac Sprue) - Lyme disease. (And other bacteria) - Flu Shots. - Mercury fillings. - HIV (And other Viruses) - HTLV I and II. - Iron Overload. There are many others. - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com wrote: This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. I totally agree. I think it would be narrow-minded to consider all of those diseases as caused by one bacteria, virus, whatever. For example, MS and other neurological disease has been linked to heavy metal poisoning. And what about those people who don't get results from using CS? Could it be that there is a toxin causing the problem such as heavy metals, pcb's, etc. and not mycoplasma? Again, I think we need to be very careful about making claims without having very strong evidence as to their validity. Paul Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
What caused the bread allergy i n the first place? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. I am not trying to downplay your theroy, or CS. But not _all_ cases of MS or CFS are caused by Mycoplasma, Lyme or HIV. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? All I can tell you is mycoplasma is a very new word even to doctors. Many have not even heard of it yet. I have two people with fibrmyalgia, two with chroans, two with lupus, one with chronic fatigue syndrom, eleven with MS, one with interstitial cyctitis one with shingles. These are all auto immune diseases. They are all drinking CS and everyone of them is in remission. The very simple way this was explained to me is that we all have mycoplasma on our bodies. They are basically harmless until we have a stress of stome sort in our lives. The explaination that our bodies attach them selves for no reason has never made sense to me. Millions of perfectly created bodies just turn on the owner for no reason??Please! What I undersand (I have no medical background what so ever) the mycoplasma (myco-extremely tiny + plasmano cell wall) invade your cell during a stress. The mycoplasma hides in your cell, takes the shape of your cell, feeds off of your cell. Your immune system knows that there is a pathogen in your body and attacks.but since the pathogen is so well hidden in your very own cell, it cannot be found by your immnue system. Therefore, it attacks,but for a very good reason. There is something there it cannot find. Obviously, what ever cell it has invaded is the disease you will get. CS very slowly and very subtly finds these mycoplasma and suffocates them. I realize this is an over simplified explanation, but that is the only thing my simple uneducated mind can understand. Nancy Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm it's quite an eye opener. **Have you read the articles from the citations? I've read twelve of them. They don't support what this page is saying. Most of them are very careful to say that mycoplasma is a co-factor but no causal relationship is evident. I'm puzzled as to how you can make a claim that mycoplasma is at the root of CFS when statistics show that mycoplasma is present in only 30-35% of people with CFS. This is from www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm: This allergic type of inflammation often results in heated, swollen, and painful inflamed tissues, like those found in rheumatoid diseases, fibromyalgia and many other autoimmune disorders like lupus and MS, Crohn's and others. ** This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
It is my opinion, if I had waited for all these informed responses, I would not be walking today, and probably not taking CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might receive. No one has time to check every citation, If being thorough is school-marmish in your book, I'll take the label you intended as an insult and wear it proudly. But, I find it more than a little distasteful that when unable to counter with an informed response, you (and a handful of others) will resort to ad hominem attacks. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
I think Nancy does indeed have strong evidencethe problem is.Doctors use diagnosis' like MS..or Lupusor similar names when they don't really know for what is wrongRobb - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:42 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? It is my opinion, if I had waited for all these informed responses, I would not be walking today, and probably not taking CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might receive. No one has time to check every citation, If being thorough is school-marmish in your book, I'll take the label you intended as an insult and wear it proudly. But, I find it more than a little distasteful that when unable to counter with an informed response, you (and a handful of others) will resort to ad hominem attacks. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
It would certainly not hurt anything to give it a try..I would be very agressive with something like this and drink 16 oz a day. A little all day long. Give it a trial for about 6 weeks and let us all know if there is any improvement. How else will we ever now??: If it wont' hurt IT MAY HELP - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime aquaintance of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone undiagnosed for many years because she was overweight and so didn't fit the conventional diagnosis profile. Given the damage that celiac causes, it would be a wonder if there weren't all sorts of complicating infections present in the intestines. paula -- From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT (was CS and refusal to use it.)
You might also want to try Lodine, also known as Etodolac or Etogesic. It's a NSAID. I use it with Glucosamine and Chondroitin and of course CS on my 14 year old German Shepherd Dog. She has had two total hip replacements and her back is riddled with arthritis. It seems to help a lot. Best wishes, Andy From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
ROBB, MYO-TONE IS FOR LIGAMENTS, TENDONS AND MUSCLES tOM ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:51:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb - Original Message - From: Tom Mary McFadden To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and refusal to use it. Tony, I have a boston terrier who is 12 years old he got down in his back legs and right shoulder. I started giving him Myo-Tone by Enzymatic Therapy and in 4 days he was up and about. I watch him and if he starts limping I start giving him 1/2 tablet in his food ground up and this seems to take care of it. Tom ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:08:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSCS and refusal to use it. Hullo Mary Lou, Could you let me have a copy of the Prednisone info please. Or point me to a site where I could get the info. I have a very old dog ( nearly 17) and she used to get CS in her water but I have moved house a few times very recently and have neglected that. She is on 10mg prednisone about three times a week, I also give her several homeopathic Arthridese pills at the same time. This seems to give her relief. She doesn t seem to be in pain but is stiff and reluctant to get up sometimes in the morning. Must dash off and get out the clay waterbowl and fill it with CS. Thanks, Tony Mary Lou Borgert wrote: Paula, I have tried to help people by giving c/s but they would rather have prednizone (drug). I help elder people and it is incredible how much of a killer this drug is I found the side effects and I copied the site and would give it to people but they insisted on taking the drug instead of c/s. they all died within 2 yrs. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com .image/gif
Re: CSWater Oz
From my understanding, some of these companies were crunching up shale, soaking it in water and selling the runoff as snake oil. They said it came from a sacred spring in Utah. They made claims about a tribe of people who drank it and lived to a ripe old age of 140 years. There were no such people. The tonic was probably full of mercury, lead and other heavy metals and of course had some other colloidal minerals as trace elements. I think (hope) that they are out of business now. I haven't heard the radio advertisements for a few years now. Hope this helps, Andy From: a rose by any other name palulu...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWater Oz snip Just like when I tried to get the list of the 70 or 80+ minerals in Water of Life...if they know that there are that many minerals in there then surely there must be a list somewhere of the minerals. Otherwise, how would you know. I am perplexed at the lack of information I am able to get. I was told that they used to publish the names of the labs that tested their product but the labs requested they no longer be listed as they were getting too many inquiry calls from the general public. At first I believed all of this...but now I have questions. There are so many things I cannot get answers to. snip thanks so much... a rose
CSDW
Why does my gallon of distilled water have a BEST BY date on it? Does distilled water go bad?
Re: CSCS and refusal to use it.
Hi.what is Myo-Tone?...Robb I went to www.google.com and typed MYO-TONE into the search box. Here are a few urls that came up: Enzymatic TherapyMyo-Tone ... Myo-Tone provides a well-balanced ratio of vitamins and minerals that must be present in the diet for collagen functions which affect the ligaments, tendons ... www.suzannes.com/allnatstrenp.html - 36k - Cached - Similar pages Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 tabs Label Information: Myo-Tone, Enzymatic Therapy, 80 Tablets Dietary supplement to maintain the integrity of ligaments, tendons, and muscles* ... www.iherb.com/myotone.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages Herbs and herbal medicines for diseases treatment. ... Myo-Tone. Enzymatic Therapy. Size/Type, 80 Tabs. ... Myo-ToneT provides a well-balanced combination of vitamins and minerals in a base of other natural factors. ... www.herbaladvisor.com/shop/xq/asp/ ptid.12928/qx/productDetail.htm - 60k - Cached - Similar pages -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
There may be a third, or fourth, or /??th, better explanation for these diseases out there in the future; all we can do is keep trying, and telling what we learn, and listening to each other. Everyone thought bacterial disease was a thing of the past when we developed our arsenal of antibiotics. At 08:42 PM 11/9/02 -0600, you wrote: It is my opinion, if I had waited for all these informed responses, I would not be walking today, and probably not taking CS. Nancy - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Jonathan, You said: Please keep on posting and ignore the school-marmish comments you might receive. No one has time to check every citation, If being thorough is school-marmish in your book, I'll take the label you intended as an insult and wear it proudly. But, I find it more than a little distasteful that when unable to counter with an informed response, you (and a handful of others) will resort to ad hominem attacks. Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDW
The container can slowly leach plasticizers used in the plastic bottles manufacture into the dw. You can smell or taste them, sometimes. At 11:51 PM 11/9/02 -0500, you wrote: Why does my gallon of distilled water have a BEST BY date on it? Does distilled water go bad?
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Dear Robb, You said: I think Nancy does indeed have strong evidencethe problem is.Doctors use diagnosis' like MS..or Lupusor similar names when they don't really know for what is wrongRobb ** I'm quite pleased to hear Nancy's story ofrecovery, but one recovery from what may not have been MS (using your ideas about this) hardly constitutes evidence that mycoplasma is responsible for MS, AIDS, Lupus, cancers, etc. There are a number of people who have treated themselves for different diseases in different ways resulting in recovery. A good look at these and other cases makes it safe to say that no one culprit is responsible for most illnesses, otherwise, one substance that worked for one illness would work for all these illnesses. Sadly, this is not the case. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Oh, I agree. I am sure it would help. But my point was, it won't cure the genetic defect. But since people with genetic defects usually have a lowered immune system, CS will help with the opportunistic infections. My only point was, if a person's CFS is caused by a genetic factor (with is usually not the case, most cases are environmental in America, since most Americans are not a risk factor for the founder effect), then CS will not cure a Celiac. Most people forget that genetics do cause disease, and when someone comes down with CFS or MS, most people say oh, it's all caused by Lyme or it's just toxins in your system, you need to detox. Or people blindly start self medicating with herbs, and that's what gives alternitive medicine a bad name. Ok, I am going off topic here, but you get my point. I was never trying to downplay CS, I was just bringing another viewpoint into the light.:) - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? It would certainly not hurt anything to give it a try..I would be very agressive with something like this and drink 16 oz a day. A little all day long. Give it a trial for about 6 weeks and let us all know if there is any improvement. How else will we ever now??: If it wont' hurt IT MAY HELP - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I would like to know how you know CS can't help celiac? I was wondering if CS IV or enemas might be of help. I don't have it but a longtime aquaintance of mine recently died while waiting for a liver transpant. The underlying cause of her liver failure was celiac disease, which had gone undiagnosed for many years because she was overweight and so didn't fit the conventional diagnosis profile. Given the damage that celiac causes, it would be a wonder if there weren't all sorts of complicating infections present in the intestines. paula -- From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Well, without going into too much technical jargon, a genetic disease is usually linked to a gene when they find that most or all people suffering from just say Iron Overload, which affects 1 in 200 people in America (mostly Irish people, since they have a low iron soil content in Ireland) they come to America, and blamo, everything has iron in it. Next thing you know, they come down with CFS and Liver disease due to the slow metabolisim of iron building up in there system. Now, infectious diseases usually can spread from person to person. On the flip side, genetic diseases, usually affect a race. Like Gaucher disease mostly affects Jewish people that have the same blood line. Now if Gaucher disease was caused by an infection, then it would affect any race. Also, just using genetic analysis, they have isolated the double dose gene that should be causing a certain missing enzyme that causes that metabolic disease. That's why for most autoimmune diseases, or most cancers, they can't give you a straight answer on what causes it. Cause it's not so clear cut. And I agree, I am sure a lot of cases of illness are brought on by pathogens, like Mycoplasma, Borreliosis, Human Monocytic Ehrlichiosis and Babesiosis. But something else people forget about, if the mother is suffering a heavy infection with mycoplasma, it can cause damage to the fetus. Yes, there have been linkages to mycoplasma infections of the mother and mutated DNA and mitochondria of the child causing birth defects. I read some reports of mothers (who got Gulf War Syndrome) from there hubbies that got sick overseas. They spread it to their wives who got sick, who then had deformed babies. The reason they were able to link it to GWS, is that a unaturally high percentage (or a cluster) or GWS, pregnant wives were having these genetically mutated children who were being born without, well... Body parts, as well as other deformities. They ended up curing a lot of the mothers and hubbies of GWS with long term Doxycycline, since the report said that a high percentage of GWS was caused by a form of mycoplasma. But for the babies with the genetic defect, it was too late. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Could it be they are all the same mycoplasma invading different cells? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Cases of MS also are also linked to: - Bread allergy. (Celiac Sprue) - Lyme disease. (And other bacteria) - Flu Shots. - Mercury fillings. - HIV (And other Viruses) - HTLV I and II. - Iron Overload. There are many others. - Original Message - From: Paul Ladendorf To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com wrote: This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. I totally agree. I think it would be narrow-minded to consider all of those diseases as caused by one bacteria, virus, whatever. For example, MS and other neurological disease has been linked to heavy metal poisoning. And what about those people who don't get results from using CS? Could it be that there is a toxin causing the problem such as heavy metals, pcb's, etc. and not mycoplasma? Again, I think we need to be very careful about making claims without having very strong evidence as to their validity. Paul Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley videos from Greatest Hits CD -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
Two specific genetic markers, called HLA subfactors, are present in well over 90% of all celiacs in America, that ends up doing damage to the villi in the small intestine, leading to malabsorption. Other problems usually come up as well. But with any disease, there is debate. Some sources say a virus can cause some cases. But current research says that most cases are caused by genetics. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? What caused the bread allergy i n the first place? - Original Message - From: f.capezzuto f.capezz...@insightbb.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? I totally agree with a lot of your statements. I am sure cases are caused by Mycoplasma. But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in America. Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the bread allergy. Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease. Which CS will do jack squat for. I am not trying to downplay your theroy, or CS. But not _all_ cases of MS or CFS are caused by Mycoplasma, Lyme or HIV. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? All I can tell you is mycoplasma is a very new word even to doctors. Many have not even heard of it yet. I have two people with fibrmyalgia, two with chroans, two with lupus, one with chronic fatigue syndrom, eleven with MS, one with interstitial cyctitis one with shingles. These are all auto immune diseases. They are all drinking CS and everyone of them is in remission. The very simple way this was explained to me is that we all have mycoplasma on our bodies. They are basically harmless until we have a stress of stome sort in our lives. The explaination that our bodies attach them selves for no reason has never made sense to me. Millions of perfectly created bodies just turn on the owner for no reason??Please! What I undersand (I have no medical background what so ever) the mycoplasma (myco-extremely tiny + plasmano cell wall) invade your cell during a stress. The mycoplasma hides in your cell, takes the shape of your cell, feeds off of your cell. Your immune system knows that there is a pathogen in your body and attacks.but since the pathogen is so well hidden in your very own cell, it cannot be found by your immnue system. Therefore, it attacks,but for a very good reason. There is something there it cannot find. Obviously, what ever cell it has invaded is the disease you will get. CS very slowly and very subtly finds these mycoplasma and suffocates them. I realize this is an over simplified explanation, but that is the only thing my simple uneducated mind can understand. Nancy Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@eagle1st.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone had success with CS and LUPUS? Dear Nancy, You said: Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm it's quite an eye opener. **Have you read the articles from the citations? I've read twelve of them. They don't support what this page is saying. Most of them are very careful to say that mycoplasma is a co-factor but no causal relationship is evident. I'm puzzled as to how you can make a claim that mycoplasma is at the root of CFS when statistics show that mycoplasma is present in only 30-35% of people with CFS. This is from www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm: This allergic type of inflammation often results in heated, swollen, and painful inflamed tissues, like those found in rheumatoid diseases, fibromyalgia and many other autoimmune disorders like lupus and MS, Crohn's and others. ** This type of writing is misleading. It causes people to draw incorrect conclusions. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
