CSMore on Comcast problem

2006-08-31 Thread M. G. Devour
Hello everyone!

Robert, our host and owner of Eskimo North, has put up a web page about 
the problem we are all having with Comcast blocking mail from the 
server that sends out list mail. He is asking people with Comcast 
accounts to contact them with their complaints.

If you have any contact information for Comcast apart from the obvious 
ab...@... address or their useless blacklist_comcast...@... one, please 
let me and Robert know? He has tried to reach a human being there by 
phone and e-mail but has never gotten past their defenses to anybody 
with the authority or will to address the problem.

Robert's address is nan...@eskimo.com and the web page is linked at the 
top of the www.eskimo.com main page.

Thank you,

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Re: CSHow do Ode and others get CS started with no salt?

2006-08-31 Thread Ode Coyote
  No generator knows anything about the water that's not between the 
electrodes.
 The main thing is to get all of the water to take turns between the 
electrodes.
 There are some 'time' related effects that should be addressed when 
running larger batches, that being mostly electrode crud 
buildup.  Basically, towards the end of the batch, wipe the electrodes off 
whenever they get looking crusty. [Every half hour or hour?..whatever ]
 The old generators that were made to fit a 250 ml beaker can be used on 
bigger jars. Fat and squat is best when using thermal stirring.  I used a 
64 oz pickle jar for a long time.  It was short enough that thermal 
stirring did well.
 I've made some jar adapters for those oldies so wide mouth jars can be 
used. [If you get one, say what it's for so you'll get the right one ]
Using an upside down funnel as a chimney really shoots that water current 
to the top nicely...not good enough for gallon jars, though a taller/fatter 
funnel should do that fine as well, but quite well on quarts and shorter.
 One problem with that has cropped up on rare occasions and has to do with 
iffy water along with temperature gain in the funnel body. [120+ Deg gets 
you yellow, Under 100, generally not. 110...maybe. ] That's easily cured by 
using a lower wattage heat source to match the inflow to the outflow better 
for a given funnel size. Of course, using different water can help too.


BTW  A very simple way to induce thermal stir currents in a container is to 
place a desk lamp close to one side of a container so one side will be 
warmer than the other side.  If you paint that side black??? [It gets 
warmer easier ] Distance determines temperature gain over heat loss from 
the cooler side.  Balance it. [Lean an ice pack onto the other side? ]
Following that line: If you are using a solar panel to run a generator, why 
not paint the bottom of the jar black, or a vertical strip on the sunny 
side of it...width or exposure angle determining temperature gain, and let 
the sun do the stirring?


[Yes, you can run in the sun if you don't use salt or any other chemical 
starter ]


Ode


At 10:57 AM 8/30/2006 -0400, you wrote:
  I was going to upgrade to the one that makes more cs at a time, but 
decided not to tamper with what ain't broke.

   Jen




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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Gertrude
Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take 
glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help?

I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other 
day  ...it takes time...really.
Trudy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM
  Subject: CSSore Knee


  Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle 
of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my 
wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t 
deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee

CSAG Deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can.

I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness.

Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent 
bacteria.


Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect.

Let's hope not.


JBB


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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread M. G. Devour
Thank you for those details, Julie. Useful info!

 I have never shared this information
 with my cardiologist who still cannot understand how i
 avoided the er.  

LOL

Be well!

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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread M. G. Devour
Ed wrote:
 Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper.

I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red 
pepper, salt.

In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne.

Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the 
special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is 
only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside 
of Tabasco.

Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order...

Be well,

Mike D.


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Re: CSIonic, etc.

2006-08-31 Thread Ode Coyote



  An ion is an atom with a missing or added electron. This gives it a 
charge at the atomic level where it wants to share electrons with an ion 
with an opposite charge or gain / lose an electron.  Stray electrons are 
everywhere, produced when radio waves photons and the like strike a surface 
etc.  Ions are extremely unstable and ionic charge very strong.



 There are many sorts of charges weak and strong. If an induced charge is 
strong enough, it can ionize the material being charged, but an electrical 
or static charge doesn't necessarily do that. In water is about the last 
place to expect a static charge to exist as it has a strong tendency to 
bleed off and perfect insulators don't exist.


 I think it has been shown that the force that keep suspended particles 
apart is the very weak Vandervalls force, not ionic charge and that any 
time you make an ion with electrolysis, you also make an anion to balance 
it with.  It can take a while for the two to find each other, but they 
will. [ Never mind capacitive effects, lousy glass photovoltaics and 
nucleation sites that may do other things]
So you'd be correct in saying that it's a like charge that repulses, but 
wrong in what that charge is.


 The result isn't always very stable and molecular bonds weak so other 
unstable compounds such as a free radical [for one] can strip electrons out 
or add some and re-ionize the components of that unstable compound.
 A dissolved compound is like another state of matter.  It's still what it 
is, but...consists of more or less charge balanced ions and anions.
 A Hydrosol might be an example of a loosely bonded ionic solution, more 
of a charge association with water molecules than an actual compound, but 
I'm not sure.


wll...look it UP!

hy·dro·sol (h+'drY-sôl', -sMl', -sOl') n. A colloid with water as the 
dispersing medium.
The word seems to be in conflict with the definition. Hydro meaning water 
and sol meaning solution, but a colloid is not a solution, it's a 
suspension. [Or, is it really somewhere in between?]


[EIS is both a -ion and anion- solution and a suspension]

Aqueous http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/solution.htmlsolutions fall into 
three general categories based on how well they conduct electricity:


   * Strong http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/electrolyte.htmlelectrolytes 
when dissolved in water dissociate completely into ions and conduct 
electricity. For example, sodium chloride, NaCl, dissociates into Na+ and 
Cl- ions in water. Other examples of strong electrolytes are nitric acid 
(HNO3) and sodium hydroxide (NaOH).


   * Weak http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/electrolyte.htmlelectrolytes when 
dissolved in water do not dissociate to any large extent and therefore do 
not conduct electricity very well. Examples include ammonia (NH3) and 
acetic acid (CH3COOH).


   * Non-electrolytes do not dissociate to ions in water and do not 
conduct electricity. Examples include sugar (sucrose = C12H22O11), 
http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/alcohol.htmlethanol (CH3CH2OH) and methanol 
(CH3OH). Humm, the third category makes the ionic is dissolved  statement 
a matter for qualification but still valid in context.


   It presents some interesting size related possibilities of a crossover 
point between nonconductive colloidal particles and conductive ions and 
anions.  Could that be where the Vandervalls force lives?  Sugar is a large 
molecule that might not be able to get small enough to make it to the 
crossover point and still be sugar.  Following that line, perhaps the 
larger the particle, the weaker the repulsive Vandervalls 
force...therefore, once agglomeration starts, any added over threshold 
kinetic energy will accelerate it.
 Anyone who has made rock candy knows that sugar will both dissolve 
quite readily and crystallize around a nucleus when the saturation point is 
brought down by cooling the solution.
 Pure metallic colloid sized silver particles trapped in a hydrogen 
bubble acts like a semiconductor almost like the bubble is trying to 
squeeze the particles into a metal wire but can't quite do it, being 
balanced to a close juxtaposition by the curvature of the bubble but kept 
from direct contact by the Vandervalls force.  Apply a little more 
pressure, destroy or compress the bubble and/or the water interface and you 
get plain metallic fully conductive silver. ..just an idea..  Double 
Hummm.  I'm visualizing a way to make fine silver ball like nano granules 
just by adding a few thousand PSI to a container of water that has Grey 
Beard  in it.   [Micro bearings?  Liquid wire?  Silver powder coat? ]  LOL


 Particles agglomerate become heavy and fall out of suspension, not 
because a strong ionic charge was neutralized by some outside force, but 
because the Vandervalls force is so weak that even Brownian motion can 
overcome it by causing a collision at a velocity the weak force can't 
resist. [ It's almost like billiard balls covered with velcro being held 
apart by 

Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Marshalee Hallett

  Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking 
the CMO. Good stuff, all of them!
  Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. 
  I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is 
that right? 
  It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop...
  Thanks!!!
  Marshalee



  Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take 
glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help?

  I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the 
other day  ...it takes time...really.
  Trudy
- Original Message - 
From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: CSSore Knee


Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the 
middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt 
my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain 
isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas??
Marshalee


RE: CSAG Deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread nathan cross
i think you dont need to worry about silver being overused or becoming less 
effective. As everything that i have ever read seems to state that no 
viruses ever become resistant to the effectiveness of silver. As far as i 
can see it kills everything everytime.I am very interested in your reference 
to an AG Ion Deodorant available in Japan could you send me some links as i 
would like to check it out.


thanks, Nathan



From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAG Deodorant
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:38:25 +0900

Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can.

I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness.

Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent bacteria.

Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect.

Let's hope not.


JBB


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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Marshalee Hallett

  Thanks, Debbie! 
  I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time.
  I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. 
  My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled 
slippers out.
  Oh the joys of maturing. sigh...
  At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some 
zinc for my eyes!!
  Marshalee



  You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp 
on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned 
that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt 
also.debbie

  Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: 
Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the 
middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt 
my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain 
isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas??
Marshalee




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Re: CS FRONT TOOTH (and cell salts)

2006-08-31 Thread Rowena
The twelve cell salts were originally the Schussler cell salts, the 
biochemic tissue salts or inorganic mineral substances or trace elements. 
Other companies also make them now, for better or worse.They are Calc 
Fluor, calc phos, calc sulph, ferr phos, kali mur, kali phos, kali sulph, 
mag phos, nat mur, nat phos, and nat sulph and silicea.  Worth researching.
Rowena


Rowena, What cell salts are you talking about$  Guess I really should read
the rest of the messages on this topic.  If that has been covered, ignore
this message, Ruth

http://www.tandkliniek-duitsland.nl/tandimplantaten/tandimplantaten.htm

Rowena ,maybe this website can tell you more... in several languages.

Trudy

Okay, folks, please let me tap into your collective experience and wisdom.

This evening my front tooth fell out.  Well, it was a false one anyway,
and
a decision on what to replace it with had been delayed for a long time.
Now
I really do have to work out what sort of replacement to ask for.  This
horrible thing I'd been wearing for over ten years had metal at the back;
when I asked my dentist what it was likely to be made of he shrugged and
said it could easily be car bumpers from Bosnia.  I dunno, but I wasn't
happy about metal in the mouth.  Ugh, the part that was next to my tooth
seemed all black and almost corroded.

What I have picked up from this site over time is that metal of any kind
is
not really wonderful in the mouth, even gold.  But then, plastic is
probably
not wonderful either.  What in this year 2006 can I ask for from a
bio-aware
dentist?  It will have to be a new dentist, if I can get in to see the guy
that works 45 minutes away as opposed to the old one who may not be
practicing any more and in any case was working 3 hours away.

Here is a tip from my experience that may help someone.  When I was
expecting my first baby in 1969 the nerve in my R front tooth got
impossibly
sensitive.  The local dentist (nicknamed The Butcher by the local people,
who preferred to travel to a nearby town for treatment) took it out and
filling the gap has been a problem ever since.

Ten years later with my second baby something similar was happening to the
other front tooth.  I looked up my biochemic book, decided on the
appropriate cell salt, and within a week my tooth was fine.

Two years later, third baby on way, same pain starting up, no time to read
the book, took some pills that contained all 12 cell salts, and a couple
of
days later there was no more problem.

What a shame I thought of the original nerve pain as a dental problem, not
a
nutritional one.  I already knew about cell salts, and had the book.  Ah,
well.  Hope someone else will benefit from the tip.

I don't want holes bored in my bones for a screw-in fitting.
Aussie dentists can never find a tooth colour to match, and go for one a
little whiter than my natural colour.  I might as well have gold as that!
I've heard of porcelain teeth - anyone know about them?

No, I'm not really planning to zap my gums and hope for a new tooth to
grow,
though it would be good fun.  But in the meantime I need to avoid
frightening little children in the street.

Fang - er - Thank you kindly.
Rowena



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RE: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee

2006-08-31 Thread Wendy
Hmmm not sure why it dropped the subject off the first message.

wendy

-Original Message-
From: Wendy [mailto:wen...@tuxnightclub.com] 
Sent: August 31, 2006 12:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS

I have the Twelth and Thirteenth Edition of this booklet, have looked at
it for years, but only recently reread it with the hopes of helping a
mainstream sisters carpel tunnel wrists... I've been experimented on us
first, which made me think it might help your knee! 

I made up some 6% spray and a 6% gel. The ingredients were easy to find.
I had never used glycerin before but it was at the local health food
store. The aloe juice was easy to find, and the gel I just used the
regular gel rather then the cosmetic grade as I figured there'd be less
additives in it. It's not as thick but works none the less. 

I used the gel on my dh's back pain away - and bleached his back
temporarily too! ;-) Also has taken away several neck aches of mine.
Still experimenting but here is the whole chapter with recipes and uses
for it:

Hth

Wendy
canada


From Hydrogen Peroxide  Ozone
Thirteenth Edition

Conrad LeBeau

Chapter V Bio-Oxidate Formulas: quote” in this book, I am releasing
several formulas for making your own bio-oxidative medicines. Some
formulas are designed for persons to make at home and others for heatlh
care professionals. The 3% Peroxy Spray work equally as well as the
Peroxy Gel. Peroxy Spray should be stored in a refrigerator if not used
on a regular basis. Either may be left out at room temperature for
several days at a time. However, they will gradally lose their potency
if exposed continuously to warm temperatures for more than two weeks at
a time.

HEALTH BENEFITS FORM USING PEROXY GEL/SPRAY:

Aching joints
Arthritis
Rheumatism
Pain (lessens or eliminates altogether)
Back massage
Athlete’s foot
Sore muscles
Burns
Bruises
Minor infections
Rashes
Insect bites
Fungal and yeast infections
Carpal tunnel syndrome

Several letters received by us from customers indicate that Peroxy Gel
is also beneficial for – 

Skin cancer
Tumors
Gangrene
Improves circulation in hands and feet – restores feeling
Cuts and wounds that won’t heal
Pleurisy/emphysema
Scabies

Testimonial letters tell of some incredible stories of healing
experiences and of the gratitude people experience from using the gel.

Several letter claim hydrogen peroxide was effective against skin cancer
and tumors near the surface of the skin. As a topical application, it is
believed to be compatible with any other treatment prescribed by your
physician. Dosages: massage up to two tablesppons daily into the skin or
use the 3% peroxy spray.


The aloe vera acts like a carrier helping the H202 penetrate faster into
the tissues and into the blood vessels. It also buffers the solution
making it gentler on the mucus membranes and more patient friendly.

FOR HOME USE
3% Peroxy Spray (for external uses)
formula for 1 pint

1.  into a bowl, pour 1 cup of aloe vera juice and add one cup of a
6% Hydrogen Peroxide solution. Mix with a spatula and pour into a bottle
with a spray nozzle like an old Windex bottle. Keep refrigerated when
not in use. For external use, spray directly on to any area of the body,
you desire. Keep out of eyes. Use the same as you would Peroxy Gel. 
2.  label the bottle “Peroxy Spray – 3% H202 solution”

Note: DO NOT place 3% Peroxy Spray in the eyes. Some people have mixed
the 3% solution with equal amounts of aloe vera juice and used a few
drops in for infections in the ears.

DO NOT USE H202 OR PEROXY SPARY ON HERPES INFECTIONS, COLD SORES OR
SHIGLES. IT WON’T WORK. IN FACT, H202 MAY ACTUALLY STIMULATE THE HERPES
VIRUS. INSTEAD, TRY LEMON OIL, PATCHOULI OIL OR LOMATIUM DISSECTUM
TINCTURE TOPICALLY AND APPLY I CE CUBES OR FOR REALLY GREAT RESLTS USE
FRESLY MADE OZONATED OLIVE OIL.


FOR HOME USE – Sublingual H202
For infections (except herpes types) that won’t respond to prescribed
drugs

1.  mix 2 tablespoon of 6% H202 (food grade quality) with 4
tablespoons of Aloe Vera juice. This gives you a 2% H202 solution in
aloe vera juice. Using a dropper pipette, take 20 (1/4 teaspoon) to 40
drops (1/2 teaspoon) under the tongue every 30 to 60 minutes as directed
by a health care professional who can monitor the effects and advise
you. Hold solution in the mouth for 3 minutes until most of it is
absorbed and then drink a full glass of water. Use up to ½ hour before
meals but no earlier than 2 hours after a meal. You can also rinse your
mouth with this solution and gargle with it also.

NOTICE; DO NOT USE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE ORALLY ON A CONTINOUS DAILY BASIS
LIKE IT IS SOME KIND OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. IT IS NOT. IT IS A LOW COST
ANTIBIOTIC / ANTISEPTIC. USE SUBLINGUALLY FOR NO MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AND
THEN DISCONTINUE ITS USE IF THE HEALTH PROBLEM PERSISITS. SEE A HEALTH
CARE PROFESSIONAL. Small amounts applied topically may be used more
frequently or as described.













FOR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS ONLY
6% Peroxy 

Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Day Sutton

When something like that happens to me, I put undiluted DMSO straight
from the bottle on it.  Painting it on with my fingers.  Pain is gone
in minutes...I get mine from the horse feed store..

On 8/30/06, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:


Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee?
I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle
of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my
wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny.
This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it
hurts like holy hanna when it does!
I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally.
Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t
deep in the joint. Ideas??
Marshalee



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CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Staya Udanvti Bob Butler
EyeBright Formula

1 Part - Eyebright Herb
1 Part - Bayberry Bark
1 Part - Red raspberry
1 Part - Goldenseal
1/8 Part - Cayenne pepper
in a base of 50% Water and 50% Alcohol = 100 Proof.

A Part is a part by volume.

Add 1 Cup of DMSO to a gallon of the above tincture.

Ian Doc Shillington ND

Copyright © 2001 by Ian Shillington.  All rights reserved.  If the solution is 
too strong causing too much pain then adjust the amount of cayenne and 
gradually increase. The above formula is very effective and some have said that 
their need for prescription glasses has diminished.LoveBobAdageyudiStaya Udanvti

RE: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee

2006-08-31 Thread Linda Ellis
Thanks, Wendy!  This is just in time for me!  I've developed a hitch in my 
right hip - mostly
just when going down stairs, but last night it bothered me when I first stand 
up from a chair and
tried to walk.  I'll give this a shot!  I've been using the H2O2 as mouthwash 
for some time,
although the periodontist keeps trying to push Colgate Mouthwashhis 
assistant told me that
regular use of the H2O2 will cause my mouth to go black.  Hasn't happened yet, 
but just to be
safe, I switch off with an organic mouthwash from my holistic dentist

Anyhow, I've picked up CMO and will add your recipe in a salve for my hip.  I 
wonder, can I add
the H2O2 to the DMSO gel I have?  Would that be good or bad?

Linda

--- Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote:

 Hmmm not sure why it dropped the subject off the first message.
 
 wendy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wendy [mailto:wen...@tuxnightclub.com] 
 Sent: August 31, 2006 12:11 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CS
 
 I have the Twelth and Thirteenth Edition of this booklet, have looked at
 it for years, but only recently reread it with the hopes of helping a
 mainstream sisters carpel tunnel wrists... I've been experimented on us
 first, which made me think it might help your knee! 
 
 I made up some 6% spray and a 6% gel. The ingredients were easy to find.
 I had never used glycerin before but it was at the local health food
 store. The aloe juice was easy to find, and the gel I just used the
 regular gel rather then the cosmetic grade as I figured there'd be less
 additives in it. It's not as thick but works none the less. 
 
 I used the gel on my dh's back pain away - and bleached his back
 temporarily too! ;-) Also has taken away several neck aches of mine.
 Still experimenting but here is the whole chapter with recipes and uses
 for it:
 
 Hth
 
 Wendy
 canada
 
 
 From Hydrogen Peroxide  Ozone
 Thirteenth Edition
 
 Conrad LeBeau
 
 Chapter V Bio-Oxidate Formulas: quote” in this book, I am releasing
 several formulas for making your own bio-oxidative medicines. Some
 formulas are designed for persons to make at home and others for heatlh
 care professionals. The 3% Peroxy Spray work equally as well as the
 Peroxy Gel. Peroxy Spray should be stored in a refrigerator if not used
 on a regular basis. Either may be left out at room temperature for
 several days at a time. However, they will gradally lose their potency
 if exposed continuously to warm temperatures for more than two weeks at
 a time.
 
 HEALTH BENEFITS FORM USING PEROXY GEL/SPRAY:
 
 Aching joints
 Arthritis
 Rheumatism
 Pain (lessens or eliminates altogether)
 Back massage
 Athlete’s foot
 Sore muscles
 Burns
 Bruises
 Minor infections
 Rashes
 Insect bites
 Fungal and yeast infections
 Carpal tunnel syndrome
 
 Several letters received by us from customers indicate that Peroxy Gel
 is also beneficial for – 
 
 Skin cancer
 Tumors
 Gangrene
 Improves circulation in hands and feet – restores feeling
 Cuts and wounds that won’t heal
 Pleurisy/emphysema
 Scabies
 
 Testimonial letters tell of some incredible stories of healing
 experiences and of the gratitude people experience from using the gel.
 
 Several letter claim hydrogen peroxide was effective against skin cancer
 and tumors near the surface of the skin. As a topical application, it is
 believed to be compatible with any other treatment prescribed by your
 physician. Dosages: massage up to two tablesppons daily into the skin or
 use the 3% peroxy spray.
 
 
 The aloe vera acts like a carrier helping the H202 penetrate faster into
 the tissues and into the blood vessels. It also buffers the solution
 making it gentler on the mucus membranes and more patient friendly.
 
 FOR HOME USE
 3% Peroxy Spray (for external uses)
 formula for 1 pint
 
 1.into a bowl, pour 1 cup of aloe vera juice and add one cup of a
 6% Hydrogen Peroxide solution. Mix with a spatula and pour into a bottle
 with a spray nozzle like an old Windex bottle. Keep refrigerated when
 not in use. For external use, spray directly on to any area of the body,
 you desire. Keep out of eyes. Use the same as you would Peroxy Gel. 
 2.label the bottle “Peroxy Spray – 3% H202 solution”
 
 Note: DO NOT place 3% Peroxy Spray in the eyes. Some people have mixed
 the 3% solution with equal amounts of aloe vera juice and used a few
 drops in for infections in the ears.
 
 DO NOT USE H202 OR PEROXY SPARY ON HERPES INFECTIONS, COLD SORES OR
 SHIGLES. IT WON’T WORK. IN FACT, H202 MAY ACTUALLY STIMULATE THE HERPES
 VIRUS. INSTEAD, TRY LEMON OIL, PATCHOULI OIL OR LOMATIUM DISSECTUM
 TINCTURE TOPICALLY AND APPLY I CE CUBES OR FOR REALLY GREAT RESLTS USE
 FRESLY MADE OZONATED OLIVE OIL.
 
 
 FOR HOME USE – Sublingual H202
 For infections (except herpes types) that won’t respond to prescribed
 drugs
 
 1.mix 2 tablespoon of 6% H202 (food grade quality) with 4
 tablespoons of Aloe Vera juice. This gives you a 2% H202 solution in
 aloe vera juice. Using a dropper pipette, 

Re: CSMore on Comcast problem

2006-08-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
Sometimes the was to get action is to go to the sales department, and
theaten to cancel your service if they don't fix it.

Marshall

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 If you have any contact information for Comcast apart from the obvious
 ab...@... address or their useless blacklist_comcast...@... one, please
 let me and Robert know? He has tried to reach a human being there by
 phone and e-mail but has never gotten past their defenses to anybody
 with the authority or will to address the problem.

 Robert's address is nan...@eskimo.com and the web page is linked at the
 top of the www.eskimo.com main page.

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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread ccdirectt
This website has a ton of home remedies with cayenne 
other natural stuff 
http://www.earthclinic.com

 
 


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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Robert L. Booth
  Usually the hip going out of alignment causes a knee problem. If you stand in 
front of a mirror and close your eyes for about ten seconds, then look at the 
shoulders in the mirror you will see one shoulder higher than the other. This 
usually means the hip is out of alignment. The first two web sites have free 
exercises you can do for the hip. The last one has a book of exercises that are 
well illustrated, the cost is $3.95. 
   
  http://www.balancethecenter.com/exercise.html
  http://popweb.ph.inter.net/~divetom/dorn%20method_files/Page521.htm
  http://www.reliefmart.com/pain-book.htm
   
  Robert


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Re: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee

2006-08-31 Thread Grace1way
Wow!  Thank you!!


Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Gertrude
I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is 
that right? 

Yes that's right...try it Marshallee and take some rest.

But 24 hour is VERY muchI think one hour is enough or as long the ice 
stays...also good sometimes for  backache ...first ice and later heatso 
the brains don' t know whats going on ...but it heals.
So different to explain in your language...I hope you understand.
Trudy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:09 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSore Knee



Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking 
the CMO. Good stuff, all of them!
Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. 
I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is 
that right? 
It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop...
Thanks!!!
Marshalee



Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take 
glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help?

I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the 
other day  ...it takes time...really.
Trudy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM
  Subject: CSSore Knee


  Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the 
middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt 
my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain 
isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee

Re: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee

2006-08-31 Thread Grace1way
Questions:
 
Where can I get a copy of a book or booklet that educates me about the  
properties and home use of hydrogen peroxide?  The one I tried to chase  down 
for 
almost a year was out of print, with no used copies available.
 
Wendy, does the book also give up-to-date information on where to purchase  
these products?
 
I would like to use a hydrogen peroxide gel intravaginally.  I am  assuming I 
should use a gel base without additives, and food grade H202, making  either 
a 3% or 2% gel.  Any thoughts?
 
Also, does anybody know if H202 kills bacteria (some, all?), viruses (some,  
all?), molds and fungi (some, all?), and do these infectious organisms develop 
 immunity to it after awhile?  Does anybody know if H202 kills  mycoplasma? 
Does anybody know if CS kills mycoplasma on contact?  I  have heard from a 
trusted source that the cause of interstitial  cystitis is mycoplasma.  I would 
like to try an infusion of H202 in the  bladder, probably with some DMSO in it. 
 
Does anybody have access to  knowledgeable guidance about using H202 in this 
way?  I have used CS in the  bladder, but hesitate to do so again because my 
integrated medicine physician  said he thought it would irritate the bladder 
mucosa.  Something did  irritate it, or reinstate an infection, but I don't 
know 
if the cause was the  CS, or the reintroduction of bacteria with the catheter.
 
Thanking you in advance
 
Jill
 
Can anyone advise me how to make an intravaginal gel containing CS as the  
germkiller?  
 
 


Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain

2006-08-31 Thread Rowena
I looked up quite a few sites, Trudy, and came to the conclusion that
ceramic or clear plastic would be the choice for me.

I don't want metal either glued on or screwed in anywhere.  Apart from
anything the metal might do physically, I don't really want it acting as an
aerial in  my mouth for any one of the million signals floating around at
any one time.

I was able to get hold of my former dentist, now retired, and he gave me the
name Procera extra strength, which could be made into a Maryland bridge.
Also he gave me the name of a technician in Perth (Australia), who gave me
the name of a practice only 90 mins or so from here, who used to use him but
now have their own technician.  At his recommendation I have an appointment
Monday pm.

The other thing my old dentist mentioned was an all resin bridge, pretty
good but not as strong, which has fibres inside.  I think this is what I 
think of as plastic.

I think there is a better chance of correct colour matching with these two
kinds than with what I have had previously.

There was an interesting paragraph in Walter Lasts Physical Cancer
Therapies:
The pink colour of dentures may be due to heavy metals, commonly mercury or
cadmium. If you cannot get a guarantee that the coloring is free of heavy
metals, it is safer to ask for clear plastic dentures made of Methyl
Methacrylate, or Flexite for partial dentures. Use plastic denture teeth
rather than porcelain teeth, which are based on aluminium oxide and other
metals. Change metal bridges and partial dentures to clear plastic. Even
gold can be a problem because to make it cheaper, it is commonly blended
with 20% of the more harmful palladium. A small amount of gold as for one
crown may be acceptable, but as a general rule keep your mouth free of
metals, and make sure only metal-free plastics are used as replacement.

The above seems to be correct, as I note from the various sites that there 
does seem to be a fair amount of metal in the various porcelains, apart from 
metal backing used as wings or aprons glued to adjacent teeth.


http://www.mynewsmile.com/porcelaincrownfrontteeth.htm said  It used to be
that any crown had to have some metal in it for strength. Today, we can make
them out of all porcelain, meaning that they can look very esthetic and very
natural. Unfortunately, most dental schools emphasize the use of porcelain
fused to metal crowns, and that's the only crown many dentists know how to
do for front teeth. But porcelain fused to metal crowns for front teeth look
opaque, unnatural, and tend to develop a dark line at the gumline after a
few years
BONDED ALL PORCELAIN - This is the type of crown that a true
cosmetic dentist will almost always place on a front tooth. It is made
entirely of porcelain or other ceramic material. Now the type of porcelain
used for crowns for teeth by itself is not very strong. The way a cosmetic
dentist will handle this is he or she will bond the crown to the tooth, thus
giving it plenty of strength to function. However, since dental schools do
not normally train dentists in the bonding techniques required to place
these crowns, you should be careful to only have them done by expert
cosmetic dentists 
EXTRA STRENGTH ALL PORCELAIN - There are some new
ceramic materials that have extra strength - so much so that they don't have
to be bonded. Some general dentists like to place these crowns on front
teeth because they don't require specialized training to place, and they
don't have the esthetic disadvantages of metal. However, they aren't as
esthetic as the bonded all porcelain crowns. Some brand names of crowns that
are this type are Procera crowns, InCeram crowns, Cercon Zirconia crowns,
Lava crowns, and Cerec crowns.  ...

Dental ceramics, also termed porcelains, have a composite structure
consisting of a crystalline phase or phases within a glassy matrix. Dental
ceramics consist of oxides, largely of metals and silica, and are
essentially inert materials, but we should be aware that they can be
attacked by acidulated phosphate fluoride (APF) gel In-Ceram is a glass
infused ceramic used for crowns (Fig. 2). It consists of a core containing
90% alumina, which is built up on a refractory die.  (What!)

In-Ceram Spinnel is a similar type of material but uses the less hard
magnesium spinnel (MgAl 2O4) instead of alumina. The material is
specifically designed for inlays and onlays. Most recently introduced is
In-Ceram Zirconia, which has a very high flexural strength.

A novel material called Techceram has been introduced in the UK, which also
relies on having a glass infused core. The core is built of small 'splats'
of alumina sprayed from a plasma gun at a rotating refractory die Glass
ceramics are polycrystalline solids prepared by the controlled
crystallisation of glasses. The best known of these systems, Dicor, is based
on mica crystals although there is another, Cerapearl, based on
hydroxyapatite and experimental lithia-based materials.24 A Dicor

Re: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Grace1way
Hi group:
 
Dr. Schultze (spelling?), student of Dr. Christopher (called the  father of 
American herbal medicine), master herbalists, suggested using the  entire 
bottle of cayenne tincture if one is having a heart attack.  You  will pass 
out, 
for sure, because the cayenne is so strong, but then recover  without need for 
the ER, according to them.  I always keep a bottle of  cayenne tincture in the 
house, and another in the car, and my purse, for this  reason. 
 
Obviously, do not take a whole bottle of cayenne tincture while  driving. 
 
Jill
 
They also suggested a cayenne treatment for eye problems that they said  
worked wonders, but was rather strong, in that blindness results after use for  
around five minutes, but then vision returns and is better than  before.  I 
haven't had the nerve to try that one, but if I was having a  heart attack I 
figure I would have nothing to loose by downing a bottle of  tincture, anyway.  
By 
the way, cayenne will give the sensation of burning  your stomach if you have 
nothing in it, so take it with food, if possible, but  this is not supposed to 
be harmful, just unpleasant.  My daughter was told  to take cayenne for a 
bleeding ulcer.  She did, and went from vomiting  blood to normal as usual 
the 
following day, eating and drinking things she was  told not to, without any 
symptoms or stomach pain.  She has had no further  problems (ten years later). 
Cayenne is supposed to be the herb of choice  for circulatory system problems.  
I have read that it is suggested for  heavy menstrual bleeding (hemorrhage) 
that is resistant to other treatment (mix  cayenne with warm water while lying 
in the bathtub and douche with a turkey  baster).  A person I heard of was 
suffering personality changes from  an intracranial bleed following a head 
injury; he was told to take 9 capsules of  cayenne a day for this problem.  I 
don't 
know if he did take it, or, if so,  what the results were.  The advice came 
from a medical intuitive who is no  longer available to me, but his advice has 
proved valuable in the past, so I  stored this information in my brain.  I 
always muscle test to find the  appropriate amount for my situation, but, of 
course, in an emergency I would  just go for it.
 
Does anybody know if the Cool Cayenne one can purchase in the health  food 
store is as affective as regular cayenne?  Does cool mean the  heat units are 
reduced, which, according to Dr. Schultze, would make it less  effective, or 
if the heat effects are just buffered or masked in some  way?  I could probably 
ask the company, but I don't know that I could trust  the answer I got 
anyway.  If there is a profit motive, I generally like a  second (or third) 
opinion.
 
Jill


Re: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Craig C Chamberlin

RE: Tobasco pepper

Info here, it is a specific type of hot pepper Capsicum annuum and a 
brief history and Scoville heat range are here:


http://www.lowfatlifestyle.com/flavoring/peppers_fresh_dried/tabasco.htm

FWIW,

Craig


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Re: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Acmeair
200 caps,  450 mg each, 100,000 scoville heating units   from 
www.doctorstrust.com,
$6.39,   with no additives, just gelatin for the capsule 
jim



M. G. Devour wrote:


Ed wrote:
 


Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper.
   



I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red 
pepper, salt.


In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne.

Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the 
special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is 
only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside 
of Tabasco.


Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order...

Be well,

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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Ed Kasper
Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam
Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze
states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better.
(p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face
value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value.
Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many
followers so should be highly considered.

That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant
medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a
pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that
its not cayenne.

Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination,
maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an
interesting formula.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCayenne


Ed wrote:
 Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different
pepper.

I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled
vinegar, red
pepper, salt.

In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant
cayenne.

Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer
to the
special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and
cayenne is
only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit
ranges, alongside
of Tabasco.

Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is
in order...

Be well,

Mike D.


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CSFW: CSAG Deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread Richard Harris




-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:11 PM
To: brit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CSAG Deodorant



Hi Jonathan,
I read your many interesting, helpful articles as you share them and thank
you for them. I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on
deodorant and have been very pleased with it. I would hesitate to store my
CS in any metal container because I feel the CS might be affected by the
metal.
Thanks again.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAG Deodorant


Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can.

I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness.

Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent
bacteria.

Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect.

Let's hope not.


JBB


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Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain

2006-08-31 Thread Gertrude

Rowena what a story about the teeth.
Some people go to Poland  in Europe ,where the crowns are very 
cheapmaybe in China too.


I need 2 new crowns,the dentist made a mistake on one tooth in  front ...he 
fixed it,but I don' t like it ,my teeth were better before,  it does not 
look nice now...you can see the repare.
Maybe I go in december ..I get 2 bills...one in december and one in januari 
2007... I hope
Now I have to take 2 crowns at the same time,but only one a year the 
insurance will pay.

One crown is about 550 euro...or about 600 dollars.

My dentist  now has assistance from abroadthe world is getting smaller 
today.

www.tandzorgassen.nl
Nice pictures on this website. see : behandelingen/kronen en bruggen = 
treatment..crowns and bridges.
Maybe you take CS after the treatmentalways very goodit is my 
wonderwater.

Trudy



- Original Message - 
From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain


I looked up quite a few sites, Trudy, and came to the conclusion that
ceramic or clear plastic would be the choice for me.

I don't want metal either glued on or screwed in anywhere.  Apart from
anything the metal might do physically, I don't really want it acting as an
aerial in  my mouth for any one of the million signals floating around at
any one time.

I was able to get hold of my former dentist, now retired, and he gave me the
name Procera extra strength, which could be made into a Maryland bridge.
Also he gave me the name of a technician in Perth (Australia), who gave me
the name of a practice only 90 mins or so from here, who used to use him but
now have their own technician.  At his recommendation I have an appointment
Monday pm.

The other thing my old dentist mentioned was an all resin bridge, pretty
good but not as strong, which has fibres inside.  I think this is what I
think of as plastic.

I think there is a better chance of correct colour matching with these two
kinds than with what I have had previously.

There was an interesting paragraph in Walter Lasts Physical Cancer
Therapies:
The pink colour of dentures may be due to heavy metals, commonly mercury or
cadmium. If you cannot get a guarantee that the coloring is free of heavy
metals, it is safer to ask for clear plastic dentures made of Methyl
Methacrylate, or Flexite for partial dentures. Use plastic denture teeth
rather than porcelain teeth, which are based on aluminium oxide and other
metals. Change metal bridges and partial dentures to clear plastic. Even
gold can be a problem because to make it cheaper, it is commonly blended
with 20% of the more harmful palladium. A small amount of gold as for one
crown may be acceptable, but as a general rule keep your mouth free of
metals, and make sure only metal-free plastics are used as replacement.

The above seems to be correct, as I note from the various sites that there
does seem to be a fair amount of metal in the various porcelains, apart from
metal backing used as wings or aprons glued to adjacent teeth.


http://www.mynewsmile.com/porcelaincrownfrontteeth.htm said  It used to be
that any crown had to have some metal in it for strength. Today, we can make
them out of all porcelain, meaning that they can look very esthetic and very
natural. Unfortunately, most dental schools emphasize the use of porcelain
fused to metal crowns, and that's the only crown many dentists know how to
do for front teeth. But porcelain fused to metal crowns for front teeth look
opaque, unnatural, and tend to develop a dark line at the gumline after a
few years
BONDED ALL PORCELAIN - This is the type of crown that a true
cosmetic dentist will almost always place on a front tooth. It is made
entirely of porcelain or other ceramic material. Now the type of porcelain
used for crowns for teeth by itself is not very strong. The way a cosmetic
dentist will handle this is he or she will bond the crown to the tooth, thus
giving it plenty of strength to function. However, since dental schools do
not normally train dentists in the bonding techniques required to place
these crowns, you should be careful to only have them done by expert
cosmetic dentists 
EXTRA STRENGTH ALL PORCELAIN - There are some new
ceramic materials that have extra strength - so much so that they don't have
to be bonded. Some general dentists like to place these crowns on front
teeth because they don't require specialized training to place, and they
don't have the esthetic disadvantages of metal. However, they aren't as
esthetic as the bonded all porcelain crowns. Some brand names of crowns that
are this type are Procera crowns, InCeram crowns, Cercon Zirconia crowns,
Lava crowns, and Cerec crowns.  ...

Dental ceramics, also termed porcelains, have a composite structure
consisting of a crystalline phase or phases within a glassy matrix. Dental
ceramics consist of oxides, largely of metals and silica, and are

Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:13 PM
  Subject: CSSore Knee


  Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle 
of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my 
wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t 
deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee


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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Linda Ellis
I've passed this info along to my husband, and I'm really hoping that we will 
determine that
tabasco sauce can, in fact, be used in this application.  First, I love the 
stuff, and use it a
lot (try it on pizza - you'll feel a lot less guilty, and it tastes a lot 
better than salt 
pepper or pepper flakes).

But secondly, it's easy to find and grab in our kitchen, and something easy to 
remember

Linda

--- Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam
 Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze
 states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better.
 (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face
 value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value.
 Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many
 followers so should be highly considered.
 
 That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant
 medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a
 pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that
 its not cayenne.
 
 Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination,
 maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an
 interesting formula.
 
 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, CA.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCayenne
 
 
 Ed wrote:
  Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different
 pepper.
 
 I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled
 vinegar, red
 pepper, salt.
 
 In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant
 cayenne.
 
 Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer
 to the
 special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and
 cayenne is
 only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit
 ranges, alongside
 of Tabasco.
 
 Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is
 in order...
 
 Be well,
 
 Mike D.
 
 
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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Dan Nave
 Why is everyone so against a little alcohol?  A little alcohol is good
for you.  Cayenne tincture should be made with alcohol. You can make it
yourself with 80 proof vodka and cayenne or fresh (hot) peppers.  If
fresh peppers, cut them up and put in blender container, fill empty
space with vodka and blend (just enough vodka to cover).  Put in a jar
and shake up every day for a week or so and then strain.  You can do the
same thing with the ground dried cayenne but you may need to use a
different gage for filling with alcohol (add vodka to cover and go above
the cayenne by one third of the volume for example, I mean add more
vodka).  Make it strong.  Just don't be drinking more than a couple of
droppers full at a time, or more than a shot...  ;-))

One MD (David Williams) is recommending drinking one or two cups of
Irish coffee at the first sign of a heart attack...

Richard Schulze (I think it was) recounts a story of an herbalist
throwing a pinch of cayenne in his own eye at the start of a lecture to
prove that cayenne wouldn't harm the eye.  It didn't.  With this in mind
and some experience using lesser doses of cayenne in an eyewash I
decided to test the theory.  I threw a large pinch of cayenne into my
eye.  I really wished I hadn't for about 20 minutes, it really hurt.
After that the eye was perfectly fine.

Half vinegar and half alcohol is used to make a tincture of lobelia.

Dan



-Original Message-
From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCayenne

Thanks Julie. I make a cayenne extract with my kombucha distilled
vinegar (2% acetic acid). I use 180,000 HU. It has a tendency to fall
out of suspension and has to be shaken.
Even with the low percentage acetic acid it doe not seem to attract
mold, but long term storage may be a problem.
Tabasco Sauce uses vinegar and vinegar is extremely healthy for you
especially compared to alcohol. I have also made kombucha mushroom tea
using cayenne and comes out really spicy.

Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper.
Lots of peppers are hotter than cayenne - some over 1,000,000 HU, so
IMO, I don't think Tabasco would work. I seem to know a lot of folks who
gobble down really hot peppers daily and they seem to have the same
problems as the rest of people who don't eat hot peppers so cayenne must
have special attributes otherwise Dr Christopher, Shultz, and others
would have used even hotter peppers or simply Tabasco sauce.

One thing I am leery of is the claim that cayenne scan/should be used in
the eyes. I trained police for years in the use of pepper spray, as a
matter of policy (and group
pressure) I had to be pepper sprayed and it did knock me down with for
what I thought was a long recovery time.
Police pepper spray is simply capsicum oil (cayenne pepper) and water
and pressure.  maybe I should practice up for the coming events.

In your opinion what would be the difference if one used vinegar instead
of alcohol ?

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA.



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From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCayenne


Ed,
   the two bottles i have are from different companies.  one says
neutral grain spirits (38%), distilled water.  the other says
extracted with 95%grain alcohol and distilled water.  i also keep the
powder on hand to make a hot tea with, which after you get used to it is
pretty good.  i try to buy the freshest available and the highest heat
units.
i would use the powder for any cut to stop bleeding and would reach for
any form of cayenne before i took nitro.
julie

 I was just wondering if you cayenne extract was an alcohol based 
extraction or what solvent was used,
maybe
vinegar?  any ideas?

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA.



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Re: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Craig C Chamberlin

Hi Linda,


I've passed this info along to my husband, and I'm really hoping that we will 
determine that
tabasco sauce can, in fact, be used in this application.  First, I love the 
stuff, and use it a
lot (try it on pizza - you'll feel a lot less guilty, and it tastes a lot better 
than salt 
pepper or pepper flakes).

But secondly, it's easy to find and grab in our kitchen, and something easy to 
remember


I too love Tobasco.  And I use the 90,000SU organic cayenne from 
Frontier Brands.  I mix an 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne with 6oz of G W 
Knudsen's Very Veggie vegtable cocktail (organic),  3 times a day. The 
difference in the effect betweeen Tobasco and the cayenne is profound. 
The cayenne lights up your entire body and lasts for some time.


I just drank about an oz of this mix and I would say that the amount of 
heat in that oz is about equal to the heat from Tobasco that I anoint my 
sausage and eggs with.  That means Tobasco all over everything.


FWIW,

Craig


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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I should have mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at 
almost no cost.  I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be 
very nearly free.   The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative 
for the manufacturers.


One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer 
bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies.   That could 
add up to enormous savings over time.


I should try.  I'll post the results.

BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose;  
you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't 
matter much.In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots 
of sliver salts very quickly.  One should never ingest these, but for a 
homemade deodorant,  tap water would be cheaper and faster.  On an 
automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast.




JBB





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I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on
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CS

2006-08-31 Thread Dan Nave

TOP TEN Herb #1)
The Emergency Herb: Cayenne

NOTES from Dr. Schulze: I have literally seen this herb bring the dead back to life. In an emergency 
situation, grab this herb FIRST. In fact, you should have a bottle of the tincture or a bag of the 
powder in the kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and the glove box of your car. Just like the American 
Express Ad, Don't leave home without it!


Cayenne can be placed directly on wounds, even where the person is cut to the bone. I have never 
seen cayenne cause infection - not even a drop of pus - when placed directly into wounds. The blood 
loss stops in seconds. I just had a two-inch gash down to my bone on my leg and cayenne stopped all 
bleeding.


I have seen the following insane warnings in highly-popular herb books written by herbal idiots: 
CAUTION: cayenne can be irritating to hemorrhoids. It should not be used by people with 
gastrointestinal problems. Never apply cayenne ointment to broken skin. Prolonged application can 
cause skin irritation. If taken internally, do not exceed recommended dose of 1-3 capsules daily. 
High dosages taken internally can cause gastroenteritis and kidney damage.


You have just read the words of a moron who has obviously never used cayenne to cure serious 
diseases, as I have done for 25 years.


First, cayenne pepper is not irritating to hemorrhoids. It cures them, especially when applied 
directly in ointment form. [Note from Sam Biser: This is true. I tried it myself and it worked]


Second, it cures gastrointestinal problems in most people. There are a few people who should be 
cautious with it, those with a hot constitution, but even these people may need cayenne to heal 
themselves, regardless of any temporary stomach irritation.


Third, cayenne is the best healer for broken skin. It may sting, but the wound will heal with less 
or no scarring, and without infection. In fact, failure to apply cayenne to broken skin can cause a 
person to bleed to death due to blood loss. Applying cayenne can stop bleeding in seconds and save life.


I used cayenne when my son was born. When my boy was born, my wife tore a bit. She ripped through a 
vein, and in seconds, had bled a pool about two feet in diameter.
I squirted 15 to 20 dropperfuls of cayenne tincture allover her vagina and even a few dropperfuls 
into it. She was a bit white, so I gave her a dropperful orally also. The bleeding stopped in one 
second.


I have even used a turkey baster to squirt cayenne powder in a woman's vagina who was about to bleed 
to death before she could get to a hospital. Her spurting blood went to a tiny trickle in three seconds.


Severe rectal or vaginal bleeding: I have also used cayenne powder for severe rectal bleeding. Yes, 
before you ask me, it is intense. It's painful, but it saves lives. A teaspoonful of cayenne pepper 
in warm water, injected using a rectal syringe, stops the bleeding.


Then, the herbal moron tells us not to exceed his upper dosage of one to three capsules per day. Let 
me tell you, thousands of my patients saved their lives, and avoided certain heart transplants, by 
using a teaspoon of 150,000 h.u. or more cayenne per hour.
Brain tumors: I once had a patient who dissolved his brain tumor by using massive doses of cayenne 
pepper. This man was in his 50's and he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing, malignant brain tumor.


With this tumor, they said that even with surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy, he would only have a 
5% chance of survival. When he came to me, it was evident that he had no idea what natural healing 
really was and he was not going to make any major changes in his lifestyle.


He was a big fan of Dr. Christopher and asked if cayenne would help him. He said he liked it, and I 
said, If that's all you are going to do, then you must take it in large doses, and he agreed. 
After one and a half months of taking massive doses of cayenne pepper, and not much else, the tumor 
was totally dissolved.


He used ten teaspoons a day for the first month. I have actually had patients use up to sixteen 
teaspoons a day. When the doctors discovered that the cancer was gone, they suggested an exploratory 
brain surgery. He told me he replied, I'll leave my body to science, but not until I'm dead, please!


Finally, I've used cayenne to cure kidney disorders and get the kidneys going again. It isn't 
cayenne that's dangerous. These herbal madmen are full of opinions and they write best-sellers based 
on their imaginations on what could happen - and not what does happen in the real world on planet Earth.


These herbal airheads are too busy cashing royalty checks to run a clinic for terminally-ill people, 
as I did.


Major Benefit: Stops Bleeding (internal or external), Heart Attack, Stroke, or 
Shock. Dissolves clots.

SCHULZE: I have had at least 20-30 patients over the years who have had a stroke right in my waiting 
room. Once I had an elderly man in my office and was giving him an iridology exam. As I was 

Re: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread T J Garland
Funny story-- I just got out of the dentist chair from a cleaning. Back in
my truck I grabbed what I thought was my bottle CS-instead it was my bottle
of cayenne solution. Took a large swig ---needlees to say I had to pull off
the road. My saliva glands poured for over 30 minutes. I put the cayenne in
a different colored bottle.
- Original Message -
From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: RE: CSCayenne


 Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam
 Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze
 states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better.
 (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face
 value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value.
 Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many
 followers so should be highly considered.

 That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant
 medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a
 pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that
 its not cayenne.

 Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination,
 maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an
 interesting formula.

 Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, CA.

 -Original Message-
 From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
 Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSCayenne


 Ed wrote:
  Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different
 pepper.

 I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled
 vinegar, red
 pepper, salt.

 In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant
 cayenne.

 Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer
 to the
 special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and
 cayenne is
 only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit
 ranges, alongside
 of Tabasco.

 Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is
 in order...

 Be well,

 Mike D.


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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Deborah Gerard
Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are 
swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on 
maybe?...debbie

Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:   
Thanks, Debbie! 
  I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time.
  I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. 
  My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled 
slippers out.
  Oh the joys of maturing. sigh...
  At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some 
zinc for my eyes!!
  Marshalee
   
  
 
You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp 
on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned 
that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt 
also.debbie

Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote:   Hi! Anyone have any 
suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? 
  I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle 
of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my 
wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. 
  This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it 
hurts like holy hanna when it does! 
  I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. 
  Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t 
deep in the joint. Ideas??
  Marshalee


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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread Deborah Gerard
It works fine I use it myself but I don't use the tap water...debbie

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:  I should have 
mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at 
almost no cost. I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be 
very nearly free. The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative 
for the manufacturers.

One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer 
bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies. That could 
add up to enormous savings over time.

I should try. I'll post the results.

BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose; 
you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't 
matter much. In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots 
of sliver salts very quickly. One should never ingest these, but for a 
homemade deodorant, tap water would be cheaper and faster. On an 
automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast.



JBB





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 I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on
 deodorant and have been very pleased with it.


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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug

2006-08-31 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
You're probably right.   The main advantage of tap water would improved 
speed and a slight savings of money.   However, it had occurred to me 
that various sliver salts might be more effective for deodorizing than 
the purer product.


Might not be, also.   I simply don't know.

I'm not afraid to experiment a bit, but it  may be best for others to 
stick with the tried and tested distilled water method, given your 
well-stated  concerns about assimilation of silver salts through the 
skin.


Thanks for the reply.


JBB


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Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of
the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating
areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be
assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them
internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good
for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water 



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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug

2006-08-31 Thread mborgert
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I AM A HAIR STYLIST THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO US IS THAT 
60% OF THE STYLISTS GET CANCER AND 40% OF CLIENTS DUE TO DYES,PERMS, ETC.  
NEEDLESS TO SAY I ONLY STYLE HAIR AND NEVER USE PERMANANT DYES ETC.
MARY
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From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of
 the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating
 areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be
 assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them
 internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good
 for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - this is why most
 of the beauty products for sale on the
 market do more damage than most imagine - I have a tape made about ten
 years ago about this exact topic which would make your hair curl - let me
 give you one example - any petroleum product are a precursor for cancer,
 this has been proved over
 and over again, so pray tell me why, Johnson and Johnson the
 baby product people use petroleum base for all of their products
 is this sanity or what ?   The entire body needs to be treated
 with the same care and interest there is no one part or area
 which is not an integral part of the whole !
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Re: CSSore Knee

2006-08-31 Thread Marshalee Hallett

  Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of 
the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of 
it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work,  nor has anything else I`ve tried.
  It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up.
  Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help...
  Marshalee


  Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are 
swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on 
maybe?...debbie






CSCS as deodorant

2006-08-31 Thread Harold MacDonald
I have used CS as a deodorant for a long time and it sure beats the heck out 
of the store bought stuff,and almost as cheap as dirt,even when made with 
distilled water.Also good when brushing/combing the hair.


Harold 




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RE: CSCayenne

2006-08-31 Thread Ed Kasper
You can make your own Cool Cayenne by adding 1 part
peppermint or ginger to 1 part Cayenne.

Cayenne especially in capsules (which Schulze said were
worthless) may irritate the stomach so a common combination
was adding peppermint or ginger which abate stomach
distress. Cayenne's only side effects are nausea and
vomiting

The way that you build tolerance to cayenne is to start with
a 1/4 teaspoon cayenne in water 3x a day, next day 1/2
teaspoon of cayenne, and so on until you are up to 1
teaspoon of cayenne in water 3x a day, with meals. If you
are sensitive to cayenne, just take it slower, 2 days at 1/4
teaspoon, and so on. If I feel some nausea coming on, I just
take a little ginger or peppermint as an antidote and that
stops it.

Still think combining Cayenne and CS would be a good idea.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist  Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug

2006-08-31 Thread Sandee George
Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of
the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating
areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be
assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them
internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good
for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - this is why most
of the beauty products for sale on the
market do more damage than most imagine - I have a tape made about ten
years ago about this exact topic which would make your hair curl - let me
give you one example - any petroleum product are a precursor for cancer,
this has been proved over
and over again, so pray tell me why, Johnson and Johnson the
baby product people use petroleum base for all of their products
is this sanity or what ?   The entire body needs to be treated
with the same care and interest there is no one part or area
which is not an integral part of the whole !
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug

2006-08-31 Thread John McLean
But if the CS is made correctly, you aren't applying silver salts to your 
skin.

Am I correct?
John in Australia
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Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of
the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating
areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be
assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them
internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good
for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water -
Sandee




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