Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question?
There are ample studies to show that silver ions kill 650 different single celled pathogens. This is perhaps why silver is not banned outright by the FDA... the cat is already out of the bag. Bob - Original Message - From: PTF ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 7:35 PM Subject: Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question? The NCCAM is an arm of the government. What makes you think they would be unbiased? PT - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question? PT. There is absolutely no way colloidal silver is 'flying under the radar'. To varying degrees its in the sights of the FDA, the TGA, Big Pharma, llttle pharma, the media, and every trolling blogger who has nothing better to do. Sooner or later someone will convince the FDA to apply the 'no evidence required' Precautionary Principle and just ban the sale of colloidal silver or CS generators. The best defence is unbiased, credible scientific research. I would accept the outcome of that no matter which way it goes. But my original question was simply that we ask NCCAM if they have ever had an application for a grant. I think the answer to that question alone would be very interesting. David From: PTF ptf2...@bellsouth.net Date: 3 July 2011 9:30:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me? I for one would not like this research done. I don't like to call the attention of the government to anything alternative that works. Before long it will be harder to find or use. Better to fly under the radar. PT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSystemic Yeast Infection
I have a systemic yeast infection caused by the atomizers I use for my COPD. I have been reading the archives on this subject, but found nothing conclusive. Has it ever been determined that CS cures systemic yeast infections and if so, what is a good dosage? I have been taking Fluconazole for this problem, and at first I only had to take it once a month. Then it was every 2 weeks and now it is every 10 days. Obviously, it soon will not help at all. Has anyone ever been successful in curing a systemic yeast infection? If so, what was the protocol? Any information, advice and suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Many thanx, Judy Harnett
Re: CSSystemic Yeast Infection
Hi Judy, Here is a website you might find useful. Hope it helps. Interestingly enough one of the symptoms for systemic yeast infection is COPD. http://39yeastinfection.com/ Sandy --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com wrote: Any information, advice and suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Many thanx, Judy Harnett
CSSystemic Yeast Infection
Thanx Sandy. I checked out the link you forwarded, but did not find it very helpful as it concentrated mainly on vaginitis and thrush and yeast infection during pregnancy. Those are not the problems I'm dealing with. Because I am dealing with inhalants to treat my COPD, the infection centers around my vocal cords, esophagus, and the like, eventually causing me severe laryngitis. It starts out with a horrible taste in my mouth and I know that it's time to take the fluconazole, which is losing it effectiveness. There may not be an answer to my problem as long as I'm using these inhalant meds, but was hoping someone would know if using silver on a daily basis would at least keep it at bay. So, if anyone has experience with it's use, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Judy - Original Message - From: Sandy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSystemic Yeast Infection Hi Judy, Here is a website you might find useful. Hope it helps. Interestingly enough one of the symptoms for systemic yeast infection is COPD. http://39yeastinfection.com/ Sandy --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com wrote: Any information, advice and suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Many thanx, Judy Harnett
Re: CSSystemic Yeast Infection
Hi Judy: Some of the top supplements you can use to fight Candida (there is plenty of research out there if Google the topics): East Park Research Olive Leaf Extract (D Lenolate) Fresh water Diatomaceous Earth (for the digestive system) A high quality therapeutic edible clay (for the digestive system) Plenty of quality probiotics (even up to three times daily) Colloidal Silver Plus, it is very important to reduce or eliminate fast burning sugars... Try to eat foods that are low on the glycemic index. Even for those people who aren't using medications that encourage Candida, who have acquired systemic candida infections, it can easily take a year to clear up with a concentrated effort. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Judy Harnett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 09:52 Subject: CSSystemic Yeast Infection Thanx Sandy. I checked out the link you forwarded, but did not find it very helpful as it concentrated mainly on vaginitis and thrush and yeast infection during pregnancy. Those are not the problems I'm dealing with. Because I am dealing with inhalants to treat my COPD, the infection centers around my vocal cords, esophagus, and the like, eventually causing me severe laryngitis. It starts out with a horrible taste in my mouth and I know that it's time to take the fluconazole, which is losing it effectiveness. There may not be an answer to my problem as long as I'm using these inhalant meds, but was hoping someone would know if using silver on a daily basis would at least keep it at bay. So, if anyone has experience with it's use, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Judy
Re: CSSystemic Yeast Infection
Have you considered an Oriental Herbalist. There are anti-fungals in that arsenal of approaches that few are aware of. I studied herbs but it is not my area of expertise. You would need to find a really good Herbalist who knew what they are doing since you are working with the condition plus medications. You might want to contact the offices of Jake Paul Fratkin, OMD (Colorado, I think). He has lectured on Candida overgrowth so it might be a good place to start. In the meantime I would recommend you cut out all simple sugars and refined foods as they are food for fungus. Good luck. PT - Original Message - From: Judy Harnett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 12:52 PM Subject: CSSystemic Yeast Infection Thanx Sandy. I checked out the link you forwarded, but did not find it very helpful as it concentrated mainly on vaginitis and thrush and yeast infection during pregnancy. Those are not the problems I'm dealing with. Because I am dealing with inhalants to treat my COPD, the infection centers around my vocal cords, esophagus, and the like, eventually causing me severe laryngitis. It starts out with a horrible taste in my mouth and I know that it's time to take the fluconazole, which is losing it effectiveness. There may not be an answer to my problem as long as I'm using these inhalant meds, but was hoping someone would know if using silver on a daily basis would at least keep it at bay. So, if anyone has experience with it's use, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Judy - Original Message - From: Sandy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:50 AM Subject: Re: CSSystemic Yeast Infection Hi Judy, Here is a website you might find useful. Hope it helps. Interestingly enough one of the symptoms for systemic yeast infection is COPD. http://39yeastinfection.com/ Sandy --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Judy Harnett benjipi...@gmail.com wrote: Any information, advice and suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Many thanx, Judy Harnett
CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
Or so their website claims. This is the only Ag4O4 product I have heard of on the market. Anyone have experience with this chemical and how it differs from EIS? http://www.guardiansilversol.com/what-is-silver-sol/colloidal-silver/ If I recall, I read somewhere it is hard on the liver or kidneys. The say it recharges itself to kill more bacteria (whatever that means). They say the silver ions that somehow or the other results from this compound are missing two electrons, and not one. They say this is due to some high voltage something or the other they use when making it. I do not see any info on this product in Frank's product report page. This was also the chemical that was used in that breast cancer study. Thinking of giving it a try for my probable unkillable bartonella. ~David
Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
What confuses me is that American Biotech labs told me they don't have Ag4O4 in their products, but if I am not mistaken, ABL also makes guardian silver sol? It is one we made but not one we actually manufacture. The only ones you will find are the supplements at the health foods stores under Silver Biotics or ASAP Solution. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
And then, the maker of Oxysilver (a Dr. Len Horowitz), says that they ripped off his product (which may imply oxysilver is also Ag4O4). He says that ABL, and its like 7 or 8 different names of silver products that it sells on various websites are a government scam to manipulate the growing interest in colloidal silver for various purposes. He says the FDA seems to allow them make claims, while they cracked down on his product. (I did in fact see blatant claims against tons of illnesses on one of their sites that I checked. In one of their videos, they state that they are allowed to make claims because they have filed a patent...that is not how it is supposed to legally work though as far as I know!) . http://web.mac.com/len15/SilverSolFraud/SilverSolFraud.com.html He says the frequencies in the silversol products may cause cancer and that it is a depopulation scheme to take out the natural health oriented people who are the ones who tend to talk about depopulation conspiracies, etc. Man...I'm just trying to try a new silver product that won't give me cancer and be certain it is something I have not tried before (Ag4O4). Not sure what to think of this particular mudslinging. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
He says the frequencies in the silversol products may cause cancer and that it is a depopulation scheme to take out the natural health oriented people who are the ones who tend to talk about depopulation conspiracies, etc. I guess anything's possible but that sounds like a load. David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com wrote: And then, the maker of Oxysilver (a Dr. Len Horowitz), says that they ripped off his product (which may imply oxysilver is also Ag4O4). He says that ABL, and its like 7 or 8 different names of silver products that it sells on various websites are a government scam to manipulate the growing interest in colloidal silver for various purposes. He says the FDA seems to allow them make claims, while they cracked down on his product. (I did in fact see blatant claims against tons of illnesses on one of their sites that I checked. In one of their videos, they state that they are allowed to make claims because they have filed a patent...that is not how it is supposed to legally work though as far as I know!) . http://web.mac.com/len15/SilverSolFraud/SilverSolFraud.com.html He says the frequencies in the silversol products may cause cancer and that it is a depopulation scheme to take out the natural health oriented people who are the ones who tend to talk about depopulation conspiracies, etc. Man...I'm just trying to try a new silver product that won't give me cancer and be certain it is something I have not tried before (Ag4O4). Not sure what to think of this particular mudslinging. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
Hi David: A. The product that was used in the breast cancer studies quoted earlier (done by Dr. John Apsley) was Argentyn 23, and not Silver Sol, or Silver Biotics. B. Horowitz is absolutely rediculous. His ravings on this topic should be ignored. American Biotech Labs shreas a unique relationship with the FDA because they spent the money to have at least two of their products cleared for medical use by the FDA. Therefore, they have the legal authority to make medical claims based on their patent filings coupled with their FDA approval. I'm not the biggest fan with everything that ABL has done, but Keith Moeller et al are certainly not FDA plants, nor do they have an agenda beyond making their investors happy by selling lots of silver. As far as whether or not it is **more** or less useful than a typical EIS product, it's hard to say. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 14:51 Subject: Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol And then, the maker of Oxysilver (a Dr. Len Horowitz), says that they ripped off his product (which may imply oxysilver is also Ag4O4). He says that ABL, and its like 7 or 8 different names of silver products that it sells on various websites are a government scam to manipulate the growing interest in colloidal silver for various purposes. He says the FDA seems to allow them make claims, while they cracked down on his product. (I did in fact see blatant claims against tons of illnesses on one of their sites that I checked. In one of their videos, they state that they are allowed to make claims because they have filed a patent...that is not how it is supposed to legally work though as far as I know!) . http://web.mac.com/len15/SilverSolFraud/SilverSolFraud.com.html He says the frequencies in the silversol products may cause cancer and that it is a depopulation scheme to take out the natural health oriented people who are the ones who tend to talk about depopulation conspiracies, etc. Man...I'm just trying to try a new silver product that won't give me cancer and be certain it is something I have not tried before (Ag4O4). Not sure what to think of this particular mudslinging. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! -- From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
A good website I'm not sure about. As far as stirring methods, I have tried thermal stirring (using a hot plate underneath a coffee carafe) and hand stirring (every 30 mins). Heating produced a pungent taste after a couple of days so I just stir mine by hand. There are other ways of doing it I'm sure. I got the parts to my generator from radio shack. I will try to send you a picture of my setup and explain how I did it. I'm very busy so it may take a couple of days. Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:42:51 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vsa SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a greatday! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22PM Subject: CSHome madeGenerator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to thiswebsite and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticlecolloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.-SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions).Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled onthe market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Pleasehelp. Nancy
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Nancy, The SilverGen is an excellent device that makes an ionic/particulate solution of nano sized particles. The mix is usually in the 80% ionic, 20% particulate range. Understand that it is only silver ions that kill pathogens because they are charged. Silver particles become ions in the blood stream. Bob - Original Message - From: Nancy Chisholm To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:11 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me?
Actually, that is Murder by Injection. Dan On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A book called Injection by Murder is available online as a free PDF download. It's a scathing indictment of the AMA and ACS. It's a long read, and well worth the time. It was published in 1989, by the late Eustace Mullins. On 2011/07/04, at 0:20, Bob Banever wrote: They will never test colloidal silver because it works. This agency a scam they test things that the pharma companies know will never be able to compete with them, and they rarely test something that actually works. Our government is corrupt from top to bottom, inside to out. There are several HIV potential cures they won't test. MMS is another, still another is cannabis oil. The list is long, but don't hold your breath for anything to be tested that actually works. Bob - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me? The NCCAM is the US National Centre for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Most of you have probably heard of it. They spend MILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS funding research into alternative health products. (http://nccam.nih.gov/ http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/) It appears they have never conducted or funded any original research into Colloidal Silver. I'd like to know why. (Yes I know they have a 'Backgrounder' but that's not what I'm looking for.) My request is that one or more of you 'Silverlisters' will send the following brief email to NACCM. I think the appropriate contact to start with would be this person.. Carol Pontzer, Ph.D. E-mail: pontz...@mail.nih.gov (http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/contact/#jg) Dear Dr Pontzer, Could you please advise me if NCCAM has ever received an application for a grant to conduct research into the medicinal use of Colloidal Silver? If so, could you please advise me of your response to that request. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards Your name, address, phone, etc. (As an Australian I think it would probably be useless to ask NCCAM myself. I doubt I would even get a response. So I'm hoping one of you US TAXPAYERS will take up the task and get back to the group.) Please note that I'm not interested in getting funding myself. I just think the answer to this question could be quite enlightening. It looks to me like the vast bulk of NCCAM research funding goes to medical schools and universities who know that its a bad idea to rattle Big Pharma's chain, so consequently they research stuff that the big drug companies couldn't care less about. (See completed NACCM trials here... http://tiny.cc/hmsb0 ). If no research has been done simply because no-one has asked for funding then maybe thats something we should make widely known. So, will someone do this for me and the silverlist team. Cheers, David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSystemic Yeast Infection
Thank your for your response, Jason, which was more on the order of what I was looking for. I have been taking Terramin, although not on a regular basis because I have a hard time swallowing the pills, and have to soak them in olive oil first. As to CS, how many oz. per day would you recommend I consume? And is fresh water DE different from regular food grade DE? I must be looking in the wrong places for information, because most of the sites I visited seemed to only want to talk about vaginitis or thrush and not a systemic infection. Do I really have to give up my morning orange juice? 8-) Thanx again, Jason. Judy Harnett
Re: CSAgO4 is the ingredient in Guardian Silver Sol
(sorry if this message was duplicated) I don't think the breast cancer study used argentyn. Maybe were talking about different studies. This quote says Ag4O4: Thirty Central American female patients, diagnosed with breast cancer by an oncologist utilizing mammograms and biopsies, comprised a subject group 32 to 52 years of age. Each received a single intravenous dosage of silver-oxide-hydrosol ([Ag.sub.4][O.sub.4]) to achieve a blood plasma concentration of 10 ppm. The 30 subjects were equally divided by three histologic groups: infiltrative canalicular breast carcinoma (Group I), ductile carcinoma, medular breast cancer (Group II), and infiltrative lobular breast cancer (Group III). The dose was administered to 50% of the patients over ten minutes and to the other 50% over four hours within each respective group. (33) http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/cancer-silver-infection.html Someone from ABL responded to my emails: All of our products are made with our patented SilverSol Technology®,which consists of 3 to 5 nanometer sized metallic silver particles, each with its own thin skin of Ag4O4. Utilizing any of our products would give you its benefits. You can purchase it in most health food stores and online under the name Silver Biotics®. It also comes in a gel form under the name ASAP Ultimate Skin Body Care Gel®. Though Frank's reports show ASAP products are not that small particles. Anyway, I think I'll give a bottle of Silver Biotics a whack. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me?
Yes. Tired I was. Got right three words the anyway. On 2011/07/06, at 10:27, Dan Nave wrote: Actually, that is Murder by Injection. Dan On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A book called Injection by Murder is available online as a free PDF download. It's a scathing indictment of the AMA and ACS. It's a long read, and well worth the time. It was published in 1989, by the late Eustace Mullins. On 2011/07/04, at 0:20, Bob Banever wrote: They will never test colloidal silver because it works. This agency a scam they test things that the pharma companies know will never be able to compete with them, and they rarely test something that actually works. Our government is corrupt from top to bottom, inside to out. There are several HIV potential cures they won't test. MMS is another, still another is cannabis oil. The list is long, but don't hold your breath for anything to be tested that actually works. Bob - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me? The NCCAM is the US National Centre for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Most of you have probably heard of it. They spend MILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS funding research into alternative health products. (http://nccam.nih.gov/ http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/) It appears they have never conducted or funded any original research into Colloidal Silver. I'd like to know why. (Yes I know they have a 'Backgrounder' but that's not what I'm looking for.) My request is that one or more of you 'Silverlisters' will send the following brief email to NACCM. I think the appropriate contact to start with would be this person.. Carol Pontzer, Ph.D. E-mail: pontz...@mail.nih.gov (http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/contact/#jg) Dear Dr Pontzer, Could you please advise me if NCCAM has ever received an application for a grant to conduct research into the medicinal use of Colloidal Silver? If so, could you please advise me of your response to that request. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards Your name, address, phone, etc. (As an Australian I think it would probably be useless to ask NCCAM myself. I doubt I would even get a response. So I'm hoping one of you US TAXPAYERS will take up the task and get back to the group.) Please note that I'm not interested in getting funding myself. I just think the answer to this question could be quite enlightening. It looks to me like the vast bulk of NCCAM research funding goes to medical schools and universities who know that its a bad idea to rattle Big Pharma's chain, so consequently they research stuff that the big drug companies couldn't care less about. (See completed NACCM trials here... http://tiny.cc/hmsb0 ). If no research has been done simply because no-one has asked for funding then maybe thats something we should make widely known. So, will someone do this for me and the silverlist team. Cheers, David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me?
Incidentally, every time I tried to attach a link for the PDF, the message would not go through. I tried three times, even sending a copy to the moderator. Odd. Maybe you can succeed, although it's a very easy Google search. Comes up on the first page. On 2011/07/06, at 12:03, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Yes. Tired I was. Got right three words the anyway. On 2011/07/06, at 10:27, Dan Nave wrote: Actually, that is Murder by Injection. Dan On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A book called Injection by Murder is available online as a free PDF download. It's a scathing indictment of the AMA and ACS. It's a long read, and well worth the time. It was published in 1989, by the late Eustace Mullins. On 2011/07/04, at 0:20, Bob Banever wrote: They will never test colloidal silver because it works. This agency a scam they test things that the pharma companies know will never be able to compete with them, and they rarely test something that actually works. Our government is corrupt from top to bottom, inside to out. There are several HIV potential cures they won't test. MMS is another, still another is cannabis oil. The list is long, but don't hold your breath for anything to be tested that actually works. Bob - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: CSWill someone ask NCCAM a question for me? The NCCAM is the US National Centre for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Most of you have probably heard of it. They spend MILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS funding research into alternative health products. (http://nccam.nih.gov/ http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/) It appears they have never conducted or funded any original research into Colloidal Silver. I'd like to know why. (Yes I know they have a 'Backgrounder' but that's not what I'm looking for.) My request is that one or more of you 'Silverlisters' will send the following brief email to NACCM. I think the appropriate contact to start with would be this person.. Carol Pontzer, Ph.D. E-mail: pontz...@mail.nih.gov (http://nccam.nih.gov/grants/contact/#jg) Dear Dr Pontzer, Could you please advise me if NCCAM has ever received an application for a grant to conduct research into the medicinal use of Colloidal Silver? If so, could you please advise me of your response to that request. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards Your name, address, phone, etc. (As an Australian I think it would probably be useless to ask NCCAM myself. I doubt I would even get a response. So I'm hoping one of you US TAXPAYERS will take up the task and get back to the group.) Please note that I'm not interested in getting funding myself. I just think the answer to this question could be quite enlightening. It looks to me like the vast bulk of NCCAM research funding goes to medical schools and universities who know that its a bad idea to rattle Big Pharma's chain, so consequently they research stuff that the big drug companies couldn't care less about. (See completed NACCM trials here... http://tiny.cc/hmsb0 ). If no research has been done simply because no-one has asked for funding then maybe thats something we should make widely known. So, will someone do this for me and the silverlist team. Cheers, David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled?
Thank you. - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:49 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? A good website I'm not sure about. As far as stirring methods, I have tried thermal stirring (using a hot plate underneath a coffee carafe) and hand stirring (every 30 mins). Heating produced a pungent taste after a couple of days so I just stir mine by hand. There are other ways of doing it I'm sure. I got the parts to my generator from radio shack. I will try to send you a picture of my setup and explain how I did it. I'm very busy so it may take a couple of days. Scotty Have a great day! -- From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:42:51 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I have read several directions on how to make your own generator- but they all slightly differ (bubbling water vs stirring or non-agitating). I just do not know what is the best method. Is there a webpage out there for good directions? - Original Message - From: Scotty To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:29 PM Subject: Re: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? Yes, Nancy, you can make your own nanoparticle silver at home! I used a bridge rectifier (ac to dc) to make my unit and have been making my own silver for the past five years. My setup is crude but very cost effective and efficient. Good luck on your endeavor! Scotty Have a great day! From: Nancy Chisholm nchish...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:11:22 PM Subject: CSHome made Generator vs a SilverGen or SilverSol already bottled? I am new to this website and I would like to start making the very best true nanoparticle colloidal silver for my own use. Can a homemade generator or ready made (ex.- SilverGen) produce nanoparticle sized particles (not just ions). Or, is it best to just purchase the colloidal silver already bottled on the market- ex.-SilverSol or etc? Please help. Nancy
