RE: CSRe: Sopa Nuts as toothpaste
Thanks, Melly. I think I'll wait the outcome of your tests. PT From: Melly Bag [mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Sopa Nuts as toothpaste PT, I tried using it twice as toothpase and it bubbled pretty well. No problem. Now i used it as mouth wash with little water to dilute, bad idea. My cheeks and jaw area are hurting, like as if i blew air too much. Now i am beginning to wonder if i should continue using it as toothpaste. Melly _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3885 - Release Date: 09/08/11
CSm.o.m.
Marshell, I have a question and you were good enough to answer last time. Can one use m.o.m.(milk of mag) when brushing teeth? The ph factor seems to be high (9 or 10) If one can , can one do it daily? Mary From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, September 8, 2011 8:08:33 PM Subject: Re: CSspectrographs of CS In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3 jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear. Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow. Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves. I need to test that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate any adverse structuring. Marshall On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Marshall, This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating my tea water that way! Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote: I am planning on rerunning those tests next week. At that time I was using 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial. Big mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the other one. The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched again. When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today. That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all. I am considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests. Thus I really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun the test. I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has on the water. Marshall On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Got it. Thanks. I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel out. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSm.o.m.
Marshall, What technique do you use to determine the state of the water before and after the procedures that you do to modify its state/strucure? Jim On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:47 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Marshell, I have a question and you were good enough to answer last time. Can one use m.o.m.(milk of mag) when brushing teeth? The ph factor seems to be high (9 or 10) If one can , can one do it daily? Mary -- *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, September 8, 2011 8:08:33 PM *Subject:* Re: CSspectrographs of CS In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3 jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear. Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow. Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves. I need to test that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate any adverse structuring. Marshall On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Marshall, This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating my tea water that way! Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote: I am planning on rerunning those tests next week. At that time I was using 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial. Big mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the other one. The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched again. When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today. That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all. I am considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests. Thus I really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun the test. I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has on the water. Marshall On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Got it. Thanks. I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel out. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribesilver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I have updated the page at http://www.silver-lightning.**com/hach/http://www.silver-lightning.com/hach/ I have added graphs of 20 ppm EIS, and what happens when you add 1 drop of H2O2 to 2 ounces of it. When run with the H2O2 mixed with distilled water as a baseline, it is apparent that the H2O2 has created large quantities of 2 atom particles, with lesser amounts of 3, 4, and higher sizes. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSm.o.m.
I have never done it, or even heard of doing it. I suppose you could, but do not know what if any benefit would come of it. Low pH is a problem for teeth, as acid will eat away at them. I don't see a basic pH of 9 or 10 being a problem. Marshall On 9/9/2011 9:47 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Marshell, I have a question and you were good enough to answer last time. Can one use m.o.m.(milk of mag) when brushing teeth? The ph factor seems to be high (9 or 10) If one can , can one do it daily? Mary *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thu, September 8, 2011 8:08:33 PM *Subject:* Re: CSspectrographs of CS In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3 jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear. Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow. Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves. I need to test that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate any adverse structuring. Marshall On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Marshall, This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating my tea water that way! Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote: I am planning on rerunning those tests next week. At that time I was using 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial. Big mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the other one. The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched again. When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today. That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all. I am considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests. Thus I really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun the test. I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has on the water. Marshall On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Got it. Thanks. I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel out. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Marshall, I am joining this topic late, so pardon my probably already-addressed questions. My questions are in parentheses. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I have updated the page at http://www.silver-lightning.**com/hach/http://www.silver-lightning.com/hach/ I have added graphs of 20 ppm EIS, and what happens when you add 1 drop of H2O2 to 2 ounces of it.(What is the concentration of the H2O2?) ( What amount would you add for 12 PPM Sol?) When run with the H2O2 mixed with distilled water as a baseline, it is apparent that the H2O2 has created large quantities of 2 atom particles, with lesser amounts of 3, 4, and higher sizes. (How much H202 is added to the distilled water before generation?) I am using a CS Pro Max generator. It runs a circular array of electrodes about a center one, at about 170V DC pulsed. Do you anticipate it will respond in the same manner as the technique you are using? (Is the 2 atom configuration ideal?) Thank you, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
On 9/9/2011 10:48 AM, Jim Holmes wrote: Marshall, I am joining this topic late, so pardon my probably already-addressed questions. My questions are in parentheses. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: I have updated the page at http://www.silver-lightning.com/hach/ I have added graphs of 20 ppm EIS, and what happens when you add 1 drop of H2O2 to 2 ounces of it.(What is the concentration of the H2O2?) ( What amount would you add for 12 PPM Sol?) It was the drug store 3% variety. When run with the H2O2 mixed with distilled water as a baseline, it is apparent that the H2O2 has created large quantities of 2 atom particles, with lesser amounts of 3, 4, and higher sizes. (How much H202 is added to the distilled water before generation?) I am using a CS Pro Max generator. It runs a circular array of electrodes about a center one, at about 170V DC pulsed. Do you anticipate it will respond in the same manner as the technique you are using? (Is the 2 atom configuration ideal?) No, I took 2 oz of 20 ppm EIS that has sat for a couple of weeks and added one drop of H2O2 to it, let it sit a couple of minutes then ran it against the distilled water baseline. Then for the other curve, I added a drop of H2O2 to 2 oz of distilled water, and used that as the baseline, and ran the EIS with H2O2 again with the new baseline. That then basically subtracts out the H2O2 portion of the curve, but since some got converted when added to the EIS, there is slightly more H2O2 in the baseline one, so it overcompensated. I think the chemical reaction will be the same regardless of how the EIS is made. I think that the smaller the particle the more effective it is since that increases the surface area, thus 2 particle would be the most effective. Marshall Thank you, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
Hi There Marshall - I have been mixing the above with MSM and having no problems - however I would like to get your opinion about changing from MSM to EIS - do you see a problem in doing this ? Thanks in advance Sandee Attitude is everything !! Penny Stock To Watch EMBA This Penny Stock Could Make Your Other Stocks Rise In Value. Read More http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e6a3198ccd5d3e6429st01duc
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
I really have no experience on this specific topic, and thus cannot really provide any scientifically experience grounded advise. However I am reluctant to put EIS or CS in the eye over the long term. Although unlikely to produce any argyria, if it did, the effect on the vision could be so severe that I would only use it occasionally personally for things like pink eye or a sty. Marshall On 9/9/2011 11:34 AM, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Marshall - I have been mixing the above with MSM and having no problems - however I would like to get your opinion about changing from MSM to EIS - do you see a problem in doing this ? Thanks in advance Sandee Attitude is everything !! *Penny Stock To Watch EMBA* This Penny Stock Could Make Your Other Stocks Rise In Value. Read More http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4e6a3198ccd5d3e6429st01ducGreenGainers.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/4e6a3198ccd5d3e6429st01duc
Re: CS Ants---// Melly
In a message dated 9/8/2011 10:39:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the suggestions. I am reluctant to add honey because there are so many ants outside the house due to drought. I don't want them coming inside due to the honey's smell. Melly
Re: CSRe: Soap Nuts, Soap w/o glycerine for teeth
Yes, unfortunately, as I was cutting away the end of the wrapper last night, I noticed the footnote about glycerine being a by-product of saponifying. sigh. Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:39 PM, jaxi wrote: Dr Bronner's does ... but it is what is naturally made through the saponifying of the oils. It says it on the labels. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Thanks Melly, The day got away from me so I haven't done my boil yet. Hope to tomorrow. BTW, I think this thread began about using soap for cleaning teeth, as it removes the film that regular toothpaste leaves and impedes the tooth's natural tendency to remineralize. The was discussion about finding soap without glycerine and today I discovered that Dr. Bronner's soap bar has none! Yay! I got the almond: figured it would taste better. Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Lena, I came upon an article today that said use 10 nuts to 4 cups of water. The 10 nuts in 2 cups of water, then reduced to 1 cup, came out a bit thick and was very bubbly, a concentrate. Then when i added the other teas from previously boiled nuts, it became watery and hardly any bubble. But i still added the wrinkle removing allantoin, aloe vera and urea. It still worked, had to rinse it though. PT, Thanks for the suggestions. I am reluctant to add honey because there are so many ants outside the house due to drought. I don't want them coming inside due to the honey's smell. Melly --- On Thu, 9/8/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:
Re: CSRe:Anta.. // Melly---
In a message dated 9/8/2011 10:39:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes:
Thanks for the suggestions. I am reluctant to add honey because there are
so many ants outside the house due to drought. I don't want them coming
inside due to the honey's smell.
Melly
Sorry, sent without my note.. { too fast finger Lois here.. } :-) I
had an ant problem--they were eating my white pine trees...I sprinkled
Diatomaceous Earth all around ants were gone...They say it will kill fire
ants
if sprinkled on their hills...Lois
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
I would love to find that to be true, because micro-waving is so convenient. I realize now that the experiments with plants back in the day may have had more to do with the response of the water of which they were composed, than the plants, themselves. So I wonder, also if there could be a way of remediating microwave damage of other foods, like vegs, etc. Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Marshall wrote: In the tests I am running tomorrow with the pendents and orgonite, I have 3 jars with distilled water with words written on them: Love, Hate and Fear. Those should be part of the plots I should have tomorrow. Lots of things can restructure water, including microwaves. I need to test that as well, as I suspect simply blessing the water might easily eliminate any adverse structuring. Marshall On 9/8/2011 10:11 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: Hi Marshall, This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto, a scientist who found that taping hostile or loving messages to a water jug would affect the symmetry or distortion of subsequent frozen crystals from those jugs. It was a small scientific paper that went viral and was republished (two vol.s I think) for the general public. His finding on micro-waved water has cured me of heating my tea water that way! Be well, Léna On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marshall wrote: I am planning on rerunning those tests next week. At that time I was using 2 matched vials, and had done the reiki with the water in the vial. Big mistake, it totally screwed up the vial, so it no longer was matched to the other one. The replacement cost was something like $100, and I ended up getting a reiki master to come over and clear both the vials so they matched again. When I rerun it I will use the same vial for both the baseline and the sample, and will NOT do the prayer or reiki on water in the vial, but in a jelly jar then pour it into the vial, like I just did on the tests today. That way it should have no effect on the vial quartz at all. I am considering the possibility that the reiki and prayer were actually very similar, but because reiki screwed up the vial that maybe the baseline for the prayer was run with, it might be a problem that the vials no longer matched, one of them had an absorption pattern like the water after reiki did. At the time I ran those tests I did not realize the vial had gotten messed up by the reiki, but did later when I ran some more tests. Thus I really have no idea if that is a factor or not, and thus am wanting to rerun the test. I should know in the next few days. Right now I am running tests with a number of pendents and orgonite to see what effect their energy has on the water. Marshall On 9/8/2011 9:27 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Got it. Thanks. I think it would be interesting to see the result of reiki plus prayer (especially by Donna), as they almost exactly would be expected to cancel out. ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Soap Nuts, Soap w/o glycerine for teeth
In a message dated 9/8/2011 10:36:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:
I think this thread began about using soap for cleaning teeth, as it
removes the film that regular toothpaste leaves and impedes the tooth's
natural
tendency to remineralize
Léna
_Save Your Teeth and Be Well!_
(http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/saveteeth.htm) HI Lena, It
all came from a Brooks Bradly post
offering this site {as one to check out.I am going to contact Dr.Judd, who
wrote
the article, to see if bar soap with glycerine is a problem---Lois
Contact:
Dr. Gerard F. Judd, Ph.D.
Chemistry Researcher, Professor, Author, and Educator
6615 West Lupine
Glendale, Arizona 85304-3136
E-mail: gfjemj...@aol.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:27:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drumr...@stny.rr.com writes: This experiment you're running is fascinating! If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto,
Re: CSspectrographs of CS healing with H2O
In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:27:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
drumr...@stny.rr.com writes:
This experiment you're running is fascinating!
If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading 'The
Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto,
See if you can find the book Water Crystal Healing--Music Images To
Restore Your Well-Being by Masaru Emoto...I got 3 copies --1 for each of
my children--used-- on Alibris.com for 99 cents each...The book has 2 CDs
with music aimed at the body {we are electrically charged mostly water.so
makes sense the vibrations work. }..I play them lots...{ Esp like track
2--The Blue Danube { while your listening your central nervous system,
which may have withered due to habitual constraint, {can't eat ice cream any
more } will be revitalized. Your heart will open your body will feel
relaxed there is more on the page-The pic of your water crystals in
the
body is there also.. Lois { fast fingers again sorry }
Re: CSspectrographs of CS healing with H2O
Thanks Lois,
I'll check that out. sounds great!
Be well,
Léna
On Sep 9, 2011, at 12:42 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/9/2011 12:27:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drumr...@stny.rr.com
writes:
This experiment you're running is fascinating!
If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in reading
'The Hidden Messages in Water' by Masaru Emoto,
See if you can find the book Water Crystal Healing--Music Images
To Restore Your Well-Being by Masaru Emoto...I got 3 copies --1 for
each of my children--used-- on Alibris.com for 99 cents each...The
book has 2 CDs with music aimed at the body {we are electrically
charged mostly water.so makes sense the vibrations work. }..I play
them lots...{ Esp like track 2--The Blue Danube { while your
listening your central nervous system, which may have withered due to
habitual constraint, {can't eat ice cream any more } will be
revitalized. Your heart will open your body will feel relaxed
there is more on the page-The pic of your water crystals in the
body is there also.. Lois { fast fingers again sorry }
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Thanks for the suggestions. I will see if I can get Mr Emoto's email address and see if he has any insight on it. I have never tried turning it off, but have simply intended for it to flow freely to anyone who wants and needs it for healing. Marshall On 9/9/2011 1:28 PM, Guyot Léna wrote: If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSspectrographs of CS
Hi Lena, Have you read the book Hire the Heavens. PT From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSspectrographs of CS If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3886 - Release Date: 09/09/11
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Hi Marshall, Smaller particles being the most effective among particles...but all in all you would still say the ionic portion of EIS is responsible for most of the results, right? ~David
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
No, but I'll look it up! Thanks! Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:01 PM, PTFerrance wrote: Hi Lena, Have you read the book Hire the Heavens. PT From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 1:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSspectrographs of CS If the power of energy can do this, it can undo this. Perhaps, if you hold the intent that your own energy remain neutral (just this once, for the highest benefit), things might change. As a Reiki master, when I send Reiki I always intend that it only be received if the sendee is willing. (In short, I have 'my people' talk to 'their people'.) I can feel the difference by the energy flow, if it is blocked at the other end. You might also want to contact Masaru Emoto. I'm sure he'd be delighted to talk with you! Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3886 - Release Date: 09/09/11
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
The ionic portion is totally responsible for turning damaged cells into stem cells to allow better and scar free healing. As far as the killing of pathogens, I am not sure. I believe that ionic is better against some and colloidal is better against others. But as far as I know, no one has run the experiments to determine that, and which pathogens are more susceptible to which. Marshall On 9/9/2011 2:10 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Hi Marshall, Smaller particles being the most effective among particles...but all in all you would still say the ionic portion of EIS is responsible for most of the results, right? ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Createa (mental) shield either around the objects or yourself (sort of a Farady cage) thus preventing contamination . Sound reasonable ? :-) Regards hg Marshall wrote: I did the first run. Ran into a big problem. I ran a baseline on distilled water, tested it as a sample to verify the baseline was stable and after running the sequence of 10 samples, ran the baseline again as a sample. The second time I ran the distilled water baseline, it showed that the water was structured! So I had to throw out all the previous measurements. I thought it must be some type of instrument instability. I started running the experiment again, running a baseline before each sample. But when I did that each sample after the first one showed the curve the wrong way and getting bigger each time. I finally figured out that since I have healing hands which continually put off healing energy, simply handling the samples and the baseline water were structuring the water, basically turning it into Holy water or something similar. That is I am adding my energy signature to each sample when handling and pouring each one from the jelly jar to the measurement vial. It is also possible that the signature is being impressed on the quartz vial as well, I know this is possible because of my experience earlier with a vial getting messed up by having Reiki done on it. Also quartz is known for holding energy patterns and programming. I am stumped now. It appears that all the samples that I had left overnight are now contaminated by my energy signature. I will have to think about what to do. I will definitely have to rerun the experiment with fresh water. I may have to find someone who is not emitting energy to do the handling for me. this time. If anyone has any ideas on how to get around this please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
My personal Daily eyedrop formula is exactly that; MSM dissolved to saturation IN 1 oz of colloidal silver, approx 15 drops of Shultzes Eyebright with cayenne formula, tsp DMSO Been using this for several years. My ophthalmologist is baffled that a slight cataract has never progressed. Chuck Preliminary operational tests were inconclusive (the damn thing blew up) On 9/9/2011 11:59:27 AM, Marshall (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I really have no experience on this specific topic, and thus cannot really provide any scientifically experience grounded advise. However I am reluctant to put EIS or CS in the eye over the long term. Although unlikely to produce any argyria, if it did, the effect on the vision could be so severe that I would only use it occasionally personally for things like pink eye or a sty. Marshall On 9/9/2011 11:34 AM, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Marshall - I have been mixing the above with MSM and having no problems - however I would like to get your opinion about changing from MSM to EIS - do you see a problem in doing this ? Thanks in advance Sandee Attitude is everything !! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
Hi there Chuck Marshall - thanks for your responses - in my case I have used EIS in my eyes for about eight years now, especially when and if I am flying, as Marshall said, if any infection like pink eye were to show it's face - I used to put DMSO into the EIS until I realized that it was drying out my eyes, which is not a good thing when you wear contact lenses ! smile - so I stopped that - I have used Dr Schultz's formula for about three years now, as stated before dropped into a solution of MSM, and have never had a problem with it, except yesterday I noticed some contaminates in the solution so that went down the drain, which is why I was thinking of using the EIS this time.I also use Can See drops and like yourself my eye doctor has no answers as to why my cataracts are actually receding I simply smile at him and say you would not want to hear what I do to achieve these results !!!To which he smiles as he knows I am into alternative medicine - oh dear the games humans do play Take good care of yourselves and have a wonderful weekend Regards Sandee Attitude is everything !! 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e6aa1bd268cb144891st04vuc
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
ok, Chuck, NOW you've go my attention! CAYENNE!!!? I use cayenne on my joints and aches and pains, but when i have the misfortune to accidentally get some on my finger and then into the eye it's scary hurty! I add MSM to CS, and when uveitis flares, I add a little DMSO, but haven't yet done cayenne. I also have eyebright tincture. Would that do? Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 6:23 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: My personal Daily eyedrop formula is exactly that; MSM dissolved to saturation IN 1 oz of colloidal silver, approx 15 drops of Shultzes Eyebright with cayenne formula, tsp DMSO Been using this for several years. My ophthalmologist is baffled that a slight cataract has never progressed. Chuck Preliminary operational tests were inconclusive (the damn thing blew up) On 9/9/2011 11:59:27 AM, Marshall (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: I really have no experience on this specific topic, and thus cannot really provide any scientifically experience grounded advise. However I am reluctant to put EIS or CS in the eye over the long term. Although unlikely to produce any argyria, if it did, the effect on the vision could be so severe that I would only use it occasionally personally for things like pink eye or a sty. Marshall On 9/9/2011 11:34 AM, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Marshall - I have been mixing the above with MSM and having no problems - however I would like to get your opinion about changing from MSM to EIS - do you see a problem in doing this ? Thanks in advance Sandee Attitude is everything !! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Theres no solid evidence that any particular form of silver is any more 'effective' than any other form. Numerous lab test seem to indicate that all forms of silver are effective. Pure silver particles, silver ions, and all sorts of silver compounds, all seem to kill germs. There are indications that some forms of silver may kill pathogens 'quicker' (in vitro) but that doesn't mean that in the longer term they are any more effective. For example a pure silver particle (eg mesosilver) may (or may not) work more 'slowly', but it may retain its effectiveness for much longer, thereby killing more pathogens overall, so the benefit ultimately may be greater than an ion that (may) work only momentarily. Anyway all the results we have are 'in vitro' (i.e. lab tests). We have no real idea of whats really happening in the human body. And is there any such thing as a silver 'ion' in the blood stream anyway? Don't silver ions immeadiately become a 'silver compound particle' the instant they are ingested? The whole argument about smaller particles being more effective than larger particles is somewhat nebulous too. I can't say I've ever seen a lab test that proves it, and theres certainly no clinical trials that support it. The bottom line is that we need to be very careful about making definitive statements based on lab tests. Pure CS in a petri dish is a very different proposition to a mouthful of CS swallowed by an adult human. David (Australia) Re: CSspectrographs of CS[ David AuBuchon aubuchon.david@gmai ] Hi Marshall, Smaller particles being the most effective among particles...but all in all you would still say the ionic portion of EIS is responsible for most of the results, right? ~David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
It has to be Dr Shultzes eyebright formula. It has cayenne in it. Chuck Alcohol calculus don't mix. Never drink derive. On 9/9/2011 7:55:28 PM, Guyot Léna (drumr...@stny.rr.com) wrote: I add MSM to CS, and when uveitis flares, I add a little DMSO, but haven't yet done cayenne. I also have eyebright tincture. Would that do? Be well, Léna -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
OK. I'll track it down. Does this help early-on cataracts? Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:39 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: It has to be Dr Shultzes eyebright formula. It has cayenne in it. Chuck Alcohol calculus don't mix. Never drink derive. On 9/9/2011 7:55:28 PM, Guyot Léna (drumr...@stny.rr.com) wrote: I add MSM to CS, and when uveitis flares, I add a little DMSO, but haven't yet done cayenne. I also have eyebright tincture. Would that do? Be well, Léna -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Greetings, ...while there are no published definative studes done, medical doctors have done their own comparitive analysis with their patients, and I've never found a single medical doctor that hasn't drawn the same conclusion. They may be out there, but I haven't found one. Once a silver ion enters the bloodstream, it quickly converts to the most likely compound: Silver chloride. Silver chloride still has antimicrobial properties, probably more than inert silver particles. For direct killing power, I'd rather have silver chloride active in the body than silver particles. However, minutely sized silver particles have colloidal properties not shared by silver ions. As was demonstrated by a scientist from Standford University (Professor William A. Tiller), the presence of bioactive silver is not required in order for silver to have pathogen killing power: Only its electromagnetic signature. Silver particles, even if coated in oxides, provided that they are colloidal-sized, have a zeta potential that... like all colloids... act as catalysts by their mere presence. The most effective way to deliver EIS, for the home user, into the body is via ultrasonic nebulization. The most effective way to deliver it is to do an IV drip, followed by an IV drip of H2O2. Silver complexes blow apart in the presence of H2O2, just like silver particles do. The toxicology of EIS (be it colloidal silver sized particles or silver ions in distilled water) is extremely low; so while some forms of silver might be more powerful directly (such as highly concentrated silver citrate), I only use EIS with a pH very close to neutral. Some manufacturing methods create acidic CS; at best, one is simply delivering small amounts of silver nitrate into the body. There are methods that individuals can use to definatively determine the effectiveness of a given silver product, but I don't recommend them for the average person because the side effects can be unpredictable. In my experience (speaking only for myself), Argentyn 23 is at least four times more effective than the silver I make using my modified Silvergen SG-7. However, for oral use, as Marshall has been playing with, adding H2O2 to the mix may make up for the variable. The problem is, one cannot then make a determination if the increase in effectiveness is due to the activated oxygen or smaller particles. The cost difference is too high to justify the expense of purchasing a retail product, no matter how good it may be... especially since we go through five gallon batches of EIS quite often. I do find it sad that so much knowledge and research was lost to the average person regarding the different types of silver products, and quality guidelines. ...but I will say that there are many little quiet clinics around the country (like the one I sometimes go to for non-related therapy) where you'll find a room full of people getting Argentyn 23 IV drips, and the medical doctors administering them would pour products like (brand name removed) down the toilet rather than give them to their patients, because these doctors can do things like live blood cell analysis before and after treatment. I personally am a middle of the road person, and see plenty of value in both colloids and ions. The problem people face when dealing with pathogenic infections is understanding the biological origin of the infection, and understanding the biological reason the body cannot beat the infection. 7/10 the reason people cannot beat their infections is poor bowel health. ~Jason - Original Message - From: Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 17:32 Subject: Re: Re: CSspectrographs of CS Theres no solid evidence that any particular form of silver is any more 'effective' than any other form. Numerous lab test seem to indicate that all forms of silver are effective. Pure silver particles, silver ions, and all sorts of silver compounds, all seem to kill germs. There are indications that some forms of silver may kill pathogens 'quicker' (in vitro) but that doesn't mean that in the longer term they are any more effective. For example a pure silver particle (eg mesosilver) may (or may not) work more 'slowly', but it may retain its effectiveness for much longer, thereby killing more pathogens overall, so the benefit ultimately may be greater than an ion that (may) work only momentarily. Anyway all the results we have are 'in vitro' (i.e. lab tests). We have no real idea of whats really happening in the human body. And is there any such thing as a silver 'ion' in the blood stream anyway? Don't silver ions immeadiately become a 'silver compound particle' the instant they are ingested? The whole argument about smaller particles being more effective than larger particles is somewhat nebulous too. I can't say I've ever seen a lab test that
Re: CSRe: 9 Sept - Re Dr Schultze's eyebright with cayenne pepper formula
So sorry, I used Dr Christophers Eyebright formula (Liquid) Christopher and Schultz are pretty much the same in reputation and are conteporaries, I often confuse them. http://www.drchristophersherbshop.com/Herbal_Eyebright.html Chuck Church Bulletin Bloopers. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Don't forget your husbands. On 9/9/2011 8:44:45 PM, Guyot Léna (drumr...@stny.rr.com) wrote: OK. I'll track it down. Does this help early-on cataracts?Be well, Léna On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:39 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: It has to be Dr Shultzes eyebright formula. It has cayenne in it. Chuck Alcohol calculus don't mix. Never drink derive. On 9/9/2011 7:55:28 PM, Guyot Léna (drumr...@stny.rr.com [link: mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]) wrote: I add MSM to CS, and when uveitis flares, I add a little DMSO, but haven't yet done cayenne. I also have eyebright tincture. Would that do? Be well, Léna -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe [link: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com [link: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com] List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com [link: mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
RE: CSSolid evidence?
My sentiments exactly David. [Don't silver ions immediately become a 'silver compound particle' the instant they are ingested?] #And as proposed by one person regarding this, ammonia within the body may come into play here? Can't be sure on that cos I can't find anything else about it in the public domain, but I don't see why it would not have merit. Who knows what happens 'in vivo'? Plenty of info on what happens in a test tube or on a glass slide, but not so much about what actually happens in vivo. The bloke who supports the ammonia theory deserves as much credibility as those who promote the compound theory. Is the 'compound' irreversable when in the blood stream? Plenty of opinion and supposition, but little definitive from what I can find. Something must occur for it to be as efficacious as it is. Even peroxide in the body may have an effect? Popular opinion and press suggests the compound compromises the efficacy. To me, there appears to be as much 'unknown' as there is 'known', and too much is taken as gospel. [...argument about smaller particles being more effective than larger particles is somewhat nebulous too.] #And this raises the question of, how big does a particle have to get before losing its effectiveness? All forms of EIS/CS are efficacious in their own right, if made properly. The question is...HOW is it so effective, and WHY is it so effective if a compound is formed when it hits the blood stream? I believe there is a little more to it. N. From: da...@alchemysa.com.au Subject: Re: Re: CSspectrographs of CS Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 10:02:04 +0930 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Theres no solid evidence that any particular form of silver is any more 'effective' than any other form. Numerous lab test seem to indicate that all forms of silver are effective. Pure silver particles, silver ions, and all sorts of silver compounds, all seem to kill germs. David (Australia)
Re: CSspectrographs of CS
Re: Re: CSspectrographs of CS Jason R Eaton Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:27:45 -0700 In my experience (speaking only for myself), Argentyn 23 is at least four times more effective than the silver I make using my modified Silvergen SG-7. However, for oral use, as Marshall has been playing with, adding H2O2 to the mix may make up for the variable. The problem is, one cannot then make a determination if the increase in effectiveness is due to the activated oxygen or smaller particles. The cost difference is too high to justify the expense of purchasing a retail product, no matter how good it may be... especially since we go through five gallon batches of EIS quite often. I do find it sad that so much knowledge and research was lost to the average person regarding the different types of silver products, and quality guidelines. ...but I will say that there are many little quiet clinics around the country (like the one I sometimes go to for non-related therapy) where you'll find a room full of people getting Argentyn 23 IV drips, and the medical doctors administering them would pour products like (brand name removed) down the toilet rather than give them to their patients, because these doctors can do things like live blood cell analysis before and after treatment. I personally am a middle of the road person, and see plenty of value in both colloids and ions. The problem people face when dealing with pathogenic infections is understanding the biological origin of the infection, and understanding the biological reason the body cannot beat the infection. 7/10 the reason people cannot beat their infections is poor bowel health. ~Jason Hi Jason, I can clear up some of the confusion you are experiencing. The only product of silver electrolysis is silver ions, Ag+, and the hydroxide ion, OH-. There are no other products in colloidal silver. There can be no other results from the electrolysis process. You cannot get pure silver atoms, or silver oxide, or tetrasilver tetroxide, or any other combination of silver compounds. Only silver ions, Ag+, and the hydroxide, OH-. The only combination you can get from this is silver hydroxide, AgOH. These are the only particles you will see in colloidal silver. This is what turns the solution yellow. There are only a few metals that engage in plasmon resonance. Silver and gold are among them. For silver, this absorbs the blue end of the spectrum and leaves the typical yellow tint that everyone is familiar with. But when you ingest this solution, the AgOH combines with the hydrochloric acid in your stomach and produces silver chloride and water. The equation is: AgOH + HCl -- AgCl + H2O This is a standard acid-base neutralization reaction. Look it up in any high school chemistry textbook. The result is it doesn't matter what kind of silver hydroxide particles you ingest. The particle size, zeta potential, and any other parameters are of no consequence. They are all reduced to silver chloride and water. So particle size has no meaning when you ingest cs. But there is a different way of making cs. I have developed a new method called the SilverCell process. This makes cs up to 44uS, which is the world's strongest and most effective silver ion solution possible. Normally, any cs generator is terminated when the ions from one electrode reach the opposite electrode. They combine in the Nernst Diffusion Layer and form silver hydroxide, AgOH. This terminates the brewing process, since any more electrons that enter the solution only go to forming more silver hydroxide, or they plate out on the cathode. If you continue the brew, you may find the silver ion concentration actually decreases due to extra combination of AgOH in the Nernst Diffusion Layer. So for every electron delivered to the solution, you now lose more than two ions, and it makes no sense to continue the process. But I have developed a way to control the reactions in the Nernst Diffusion Layer. As a result, my solution has absolutely no Tyndall, even in the darkest room. I can deliver the world's highest silver ion concentration in a colloidal silver generator. This makes it by far the most effective cs ever produced. I can also show that the silver ion concentration is essential in combating the most virulent pathogens. See for example my post on http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg76134.html This clearly shows the higher ion concentration is essential to combat serious pathogens. As you point out, Argentyn 23 is at least four times more effective than the silver you were making with your modified Silvergen SG-7. So
