CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread SScholz
I have late stage lyme and treating but developed c diff.  I have argentyn 
silver and was wondering 2 things does silver treat c diff and does silver kill 
beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic would?

RE: CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread Dianne France

Silver kills bacteria good or bad if reached.  I had a problem with C-Diff 
after back to back major surgeries.  My natural therapy doctor (also an MD) 
toldme the very best probiotic to help C-Diff is Saccharmomyces Boulardii+Mos.  
I can buy it local at the health store or order it from www.I-herb.com.This 
probiotic is also non-dairy which works for me since I am allergic to dairy.  
This probiotic also helped my dad when he was having problems. 
 From: ssch...@twcny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:51:35 -0500
Subject: CSc diff








I have late stage lyme and treating but developed c 
diff.  I have argentyn silver and was wondering 2 things does silver treat 
c diff and does silver kill beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic 
would?

Re: CSAfib

2013-03-04 Thread Alan Jones
Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You will need to google it.  There is a website for A-fibbers.
 PT

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 *From:* Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSAfib

 What is it??

 On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
 PT

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 *From:* Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv bruce...@btes.tv
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sun, March 3, 2013 8:22:35 PM
 *Subject:* CSAfib

 Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
 Thanks:
 Bruce a



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FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton
I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.









-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Wonderful story. I wonder if you know that red yeast rice is considered a 
'statin'... a natural one but it has all the characteristics of the rest.  

Just wanted to make sure you know considering what is at stake.
PT





From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 9:20:21 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


I have had uneven  heartbeat -- recognized first when I had my first child in  
1957.
As I grew older, I  could hear the rhythm -- sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, 
then a  pause.
 
I have an enlarged  heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have requested regular blood 
tests to discover my  mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my own)
Vitamin C, D, E,  Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil, red yeast rice  and baby 
aspirin. And 8  glasses of water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor  wanted me on a statin.  I loudly refused.  He said to me 
Then 
why  don't you do what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's what  
doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others, natural stuff for  themselves!  
 
When I started  my regimen, my heartbeat moved slowly to a pause about every 
10  beats, to every 30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a 
noticeable  pause. 

 
Am I doing myself  harm? Perhaps. Less harm than doing what the doctors might 
have wanted? I  suspect so.
 
I found myself in  the ER a year ago with a badly flopping heart. I had 
failed 
to take  potassium for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave  me an IV bag and 2 pills of potassium and sent me home. 
It 
was a scare and  a warning.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance  [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10  PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:  CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website for  A-fibbers.
PT





 From: Bruce Anderson  bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
PT





 From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 8:22:35PM
Subject: CSAfib


Anyone know of anything that works forafib?
Thanks:
Bruce a.


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Re: CSAfib

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
That's it.  Doesn't taste great but works well.
PT





From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 7:14:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSAfib

Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

You will need to google it.  There is a website for A-fibbers.
PT





From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib



What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
PT





From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun,   March 3, 2013 8:22:35 PM
Subject: CSAfib

Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
Thanks:
Bruce a 

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) 


Re: CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread James McDonald
If you take enough and often, you may need to take some probiotics to 
repopulate your gut.





 From: SScholz ssch...@twcny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 5:51 AM
Subject: CSc diff
 

 
I have late stage lyme and treating but developed c 
diff.  I have argentyn silver and was wondering 2 things does silver treat 
c diff and does silver kill beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic 
would?

Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

2013-03-04 Thread James McDonald
What has your doctor said about your improved health? That you are naturaly 
helping yourself, those stations are deadly to your body, of course your cost 
of keeping healthy without Big Pharma has to be much cheaper!!





 From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated
 

 
I have had uneven 
heartbeat -- recognized first when I had my first child in 
1957.
As I grew older, I 
could hear the rhythm -- sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a 
pause.
 
I have an enlarged 
heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have requested regular blood tests to discover my 
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my own)
Vitamin C, D, E, 
Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil, red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 
glasses of water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor 
wanted me on a statin.  I loudly refused.  He said to me Then why 
don't you do what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's what 
doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others, natural stuff for 
themselves!  
 
When I started 
my regimen, my heartbeat moved slowly to a pause about every 10 
beats, to every 30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a noticeable 
pause. 
 
Am I doing myself 
harm? Perhaps. Less harm than doing what the doctors might have wanted? I 
suspect so.
 
I found myself in 
the ER a year ago with a badly flopping heart. I had failed to take 
potassium for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave 
me an IV bag and 2 pills of potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and 
a warning.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance 
[mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 
PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: 
CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website for 
A-fibbers.
PT





 From: Bruce Anderson 
bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance 
wrote:

Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
PT





 From: Bruce Anderson bruce...@btes.tv
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 8:22:35  PM
Subject: CSAfib


Anyone know of anything that works for 
  afib?
Thanks:
Bruce a.


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CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread Sandee George
Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I myself 
have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the conclusion 
that as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years, now was the time, 
so this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark protocol - and today my 
skin is totally back to what normal was many years ago - a putrid liver as I 
have just been reminded from my own experience, is not a good thing to have, as 
so many illnesses occur as a result of same - so I share this for everyone's 
interest and information - have a great day.
Sandee 
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Re: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Another simple liver cleanse is done with castor oil hot packs.  Positively 
rejuvenating!
PT





From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 10:09:54 AM
Subject: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I myself 
have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the conclusion 
that 
as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years, now was the time, so 
this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark protocol - and today my 
skin is totally back to what normal was many years ago - a putrid liver as I 
have just been reminded from my own experience, is not a good thing to have, as 
so many illnesses occur as a result of same - so I share this for everyone's 
interest and information - have a great day.

Sandee 
Attitude is everything !
AliveAgainSilver - Drops  Gel
www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/



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Re: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Also, frequencies can be used... and this is a great time to it... spring 
cleaning as it were!
PT





From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 10:17:32 AM
Subject: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I myself 
have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the conclusion 
that 
as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years, now was the time, so 
this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark protocol - and today my 
skin is totally back to what normal was many years ago - a putrid liver as I 
have just been reminded from my own experience, is not a good thing to have, as 
so many illnesses occur as a result of same - so I share this for everyone's 
interest and information - have a great day.

Sandee 
Attitude is everything !
AliveAgainSilver - Drops  Gel
www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/



Woman is 53 But Looks 25
53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
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Re: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Also, frequencies can be used... and this is a great time to it... spring 
cleaning as it were!
PT





From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 10:17:32 AM
Subject: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I myself 
have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the conclusion 
that 
as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years, now was the time, so 
this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark protocol - and today my 
skin is totally back to what normal was many years ago - a putrid liver as I 
have just been reminded from my own experience, is not a good thing to have, as 
so many illnesses occur as a result of same - so I share this for everyone's 
interest and information - have a great day.

Sandee 
Attitude is everything !
AliveAgainSilver - Drops  Gel
www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/



Woman is 53 But Looks 25
53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
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Re: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread Heather W
My favorite (and not favorite) Liver stimulation is coffee enemas. The
caffeine is directly introduced to the liver to speed up the detoxification
process. Also helps with pain and low energy. I do it at least once a
month, more if I'm sick.

I learned how from the Gerson Therapy.
http://gerson.org/gerpress/the-gerson-therapy/
On Mar 4, 2013 10:57 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Another simple liver cleanse is done with castor oil hot packs.
 Positively rejuvenating!
 PT

 --
 *From:* Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 *To:* Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, March 4, 2013 10:09:54 AM
 *Subject:* CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

 Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I
 myself have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the
 conclusion that as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years,
 now was the time, so this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark
 protocol - and today my skin is totally back to what normal was many years
 ago - a putrid liver as I have just been reminded from my own experience,
 is not a good thing to have, as so many illnesses occur as a result of same
 - so I share this for everyone's interest and information - have a great
 day.
 Sandee 
 Attitude is everything !
 AliveAgainSilver - Drops  Gel
 www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/



 
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Re: CSsilver, lyme and hydration for you techies

2013-03-04 Thread Marshall
With a silver content of only 10 ppm or so, and once diluted in the 
blood to less than 1 ppm, I cannot see how it would have any effect on 
hydration one way or the other at all.  I have not researched it, and am 
not sure any research on it has ever been done, so could be wrong.


Marshall

On 3/2/2013 7:49 AM, Maple Springs Farm wrote:

Hi this is kinda technical (hopefully marshall is listening!)
but
one of the big problems with lyme (at least w me) is hydration.
I was wondering... if since when i drink water the it doesn't go in 
the cells
cause it is blocked by the lyme gunk, if the silver would help with 
hydration
just because of the silver content in it? Wouldn't the silver go in 
the cells
and the water conduct to the silver? I know silver is good for xyz but 
can it

or will it help with hydration??? Or would it make it worse?

Carol
Maple Springs Farm
http://www.maplesprings.com
http://www.maplespringsfarm.com


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CSafib

2013-03-04 Thread Shirley Reed
  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for muscle 
contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be helpful.  
From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of the problem.  
And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are deficient in others.  
Best wishes,  pj


Re: CSAny success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?

2013-03-04 Thread Marshall
Bob Beck.  He developed the magnetic pulser to get to pathogens in the 
lymph system because none of the other 3, CS ozonated water, and zapper 
were efficient in getting them according to what I remember him writing.


I also know that my sister who had lyme was only able to beat it after 
adding the pulser to the lymph nodes to the protocol.


Marshall

On 3/2/2013 3:15 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:

Marshall,

I was surprised by your statement about CS and the lymph system.  I 
had read many years earleir that it concentrated in the nodes, in 
proximity to the pathogens sequestered there. On what do you base your 
knowledge?


Thank you,

Jim

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net 
mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Frequencies.
PT


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, March 1, 2013 8:20:28 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSAny success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?

Just curious, PT but.. how are the neurotoxins being removed? 
Thanks.. Lola H.


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:56 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

I've had it twice 10 years apart... 1965 and 1974ish.  Didn't
know about CS when I had it.  The doc didn't believe it could
be contracted a second time so I walked around catching all
kinds of infections before I saw another doc who dx it.  I
just found someone who is helping to remove the neurotoxins
left behind by the virus.  It has been amazing.
PT


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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Fri, March 1, 2013 4:02:14 PM
*Subject:* CSAny success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?

I know 2 teen age relatives who have mononucleosis.  Anybody
have success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?
Thanks.  Bob Maginnis bobm...@att.net mailto:bobm...@att.net





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CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

2013-03-04 Thread Melly Bag
Hi PT,
 
How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many times 
a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many hours.
 
You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?
 
I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to discomfort 
around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas herbal tea 
last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i can have them 
handy.
 
Many Thanks.
 
Melly

Re: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
What frx are your favorites for this, PT? 
Be well, Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:58 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 Also, frequencies can be used... and this is a great time to it... spring 
 cleaning as it were!
 PT
 
 From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com
 To: Mike Devour - Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 10:17:32 AM
 Subject: CS4 March - re - dehydration of the cells/skin etc.,
 
 Hi There to all who have voiced this problem over the past few days - I 
 myself have been suffering from the same thing, last week I came to the 
 conclusion that as I had not done a liver cleanse for some thirty years, now 
 was the time, so this past weekend I did same - following Hulda Clark 
 protocol - and today my skin is totally back to what normal was many years 
 ago - a putrid liver as I have just been reminded from my own experience, is 
 not a good thing to have, as so many illnesses occur as a result of same - so 
 I share this for everyone's interest and information - have a great day.
 Sandee 
 Attitude is everything !
 AliveAgainSilver - Drops  Gel
 www.sandeemagic.organogold.com/r/US/
 
 
 
 
 Woman is 53 But Looks 25
 53/YO Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors...
 ConsumerLifestyleMag.com



RE: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton
He growls...but says I only need to see him once a
year, and my Nurse Practitioner is practical!
JDM



-Original Message-
From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:07 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


What has your doctor said about your improved
health? That you are naturaly helping yourself,
those stations are deadly to your body, of course
your cost of keeping healthy without Big Pharma
has to be much cheaper!!






--
--
From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated



I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.







-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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RE: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton
Oh yes -- they made the manufactured Statins
originally from Red Yeast Rice.
Considering what's at stake, I think I'm healthier
than deveral of my friends. I know for sure that
many throughout the world think our medical system
wears blinders.
Of course, I hope I'm not getting myself into
trouble.  Here in Maine we can have a Nurse
Practitioner as a Primary.  He (name is Brien) and
I struggle with things.  He's willing to listen,
and I've done some of the things he wishes. --
Right now, removing 5 more pounds and I may get
off BP pills (my goal!)
I do know death is a natural progression, and
think my joyful attitude day by day is helpful.
JudyDownMaine





-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


Wonderful story. I wonder if you know that red
yeast rice is considered a 'statin'... a natural
one but it has all the characteristics of the
rest.
Just wanted to make sure you know considering what
is at stake.
PT




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To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 9:20:21 AM
Subject: FW: CSAfib -arhythmia? Self-treated


I have had uneven heartbeat -- recognized first
when I had my first child in 1957.
As I grew older, I could hear the rhythm --
sometimes every 2 or 3 beats, then a pause.

I have an enlarged heart. Lately (I'm 77) I have
requested regular blood tests to discover my
mineral balances.  That got me to taking (on my
own)
Vitamin C, D, E, Co-Q-10, B-complex, krill oil,
red yeast rice  and baby aspirin. And 8 glasses of
water with a splash of appe cider vinegar.
The heart doctor wanted me on a statin.  I loudly
refused.  He said to me Then why don't you do
what I do -- fish oil and red yeast rice.  THAT's
what doctors seem to do: push Pharma for others,
natural stuff for themselves!

When I started my regimen, my heartbeat moved
slowly to a pause about every 10 beats, to every
30 beats, to ...I quit counting afer 100 without a
noticeable pause.

Am I doing myself harm? Perhaps. Less harm than
doing what the doctors might have wanted? I
suspect so.

I found myself in the ER a year ago with a badly
flopping heart. I had failed to take potassium
for a few days and had changed my diet
quickly. The ER gave me an IV bag and 2 pills of
potassium and sent me home. It was a scare and a
warning.








-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAfib


You will need to google it.  There is a website
for A-fibbers.
PT




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 10:24:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAfib


What is it??

On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
  PT




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  Subject: CSAfib


  Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
  Thanks:
  Bruce a.

  
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Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
It depends on the person.  Each person must monitor how they feel.  I do it 
over 
night.  Frequency specific microcurrent is what I use but there are other 
delivery methods.  A simple hara massage (google it) can also be of great help.
Good luck.
PT





From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 11:39:36 AM
Subject: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs


Hi PT,
 
How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many times 
a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many hours.
 
You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?
 
I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to discomfort 
around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas herbal tea 
last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i can have them 
handy.
 
Many Thanks.
 
Melly 

RE: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton




-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium
(which is required for muscle contraction and
relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may
be helpful.  From what I have read, it usually
results in the disappearance of the problem.  And
if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are
deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj


Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Sarah Miller
What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com
 wrote:

 **



  -Original Message-
 *From:* Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSafib

Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for
 muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be
 helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of
 the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj



Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

2013-03-04 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
Melly.. I have been doing castor oil packs for years.  The usual method is
to do the castor oil pack for an hour or two,  one - three times per day if
an acute condition.  It depends on how acute the condition is (pain) etc.
You can do it for 3 - 4 days in a row with a few days off.  I have done it
every day when my back has messed up before.  If you are doing the castor
oil packs as a general application, once per day is probably fine for two
hours.  Just be sure and monitor the heat.  Turn the heating pad off for a
few minutes or on low to maintain a comfortable level. not too hot.

From the instructions in the book Edgar Cayce Handbook for Health by
Harold J. Reilly,
pg. 246 ...  *If it (castor oil pack) is being used on the abdomen for
liver and caecum and ascending colon, be sure to cover the right side as
well as the entire abdominal area.  If for the spleen and descending colon,
favor the left side. ...  *
*Frequency:  For general use, it is desirable to use the packs three or
four nights consecutively, and then no use for three nights.  When taking a
series of packs, take two tsps of  *olive oil nightly or two tbs. after the
third night.*
**
*I have never, ever been able to stomach the olive oil.  I just gag and
can't get it down.  The book is still available from Baar.com I think.  It
is handy to have.  Lola H.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hi PT,

 How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many
 times a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many
 hours.

 You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?

 I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to discomfort
 around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas herbal
 tea last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i can
 have them handy.

 Many Thanks.

 Melly



Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what will 
happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to start.
PT





From: Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM
Subject: CSquestion

Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had a 
stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. 


Thanks,

Sarah


Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Try adding some lemon juice and water to the olive oil and blending them all 
before drinking.  Instead of a heating pad you can use a rice hot pack which 
you 
can make to cover the area.  If packed between two heavy towels it will last 
most of the night.
PT





From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 12:52:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs



Melly.. I have been doing castor oil packs for years.  The usual method is to 
do 
the castor oil pack for an hour or two,  one - three times per day if an acute 
condition.  It depends on how acute the condition is (pain) etc.  You can do it 
for 3 - 4 days in a row with a few days off.  I have done it every day when my 
back has messed up before.  If you are doing the castor oil packs as a general 
application, once per day is probably fine for two hours.  Just be sure and 
monitor the heat.  Turn the heating pad off for a few minutes or on low to 
maintain a comfortable level. not too hot.
 
From the instructions in the book Edgar Cayce Handbook for Health by Harold 
J. 
Reilly, 

pg. 246 ...  If it (castor oil pack) is being used on the abdomen for liver 
and 
caecum and ascending colon, be sure to cover the right side as well as the 
entire abdominal area.  If for the spleen and descending colon, favor the left 
side. ...  

Frequency:  For general use, it is desirable to use the packs three or four 
nights consecutively, and then no use for three nights.  When taking a series 
of 
packs, take two tsps of  *olive oil nightly or two tbs. after the third night.
 
*I have never, ever been able to stomach the olive oil.  I just gag and can't 
get it down.  The book is still available from Baar.com I think.  It is handy 
to 
have.  Lola H.
 
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi PT,
 
How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many 
times 
a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many hours.
 
You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?
 
I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to discomfort 
around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas herbal tea 
last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i can have 
them 
handy.
 
Many Thanks. 
Melly 


Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread phoenix23002 tds.net
How wierd that her insurance won't pay.  Usually they are eager to put us
on things that aren't particularly good for us.

Study.. research and come to your own conclusions but nattozyme
(nattozime), serrapeptase and 'earthing' products can help
thick/sludgy/ketchupy blood.  Earthing products increase the 'zeta'
potential of red blood cells.. helping them to repel one another which
means the cells have more 'elbow' room.  Lola H.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 1:14 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

  I would think a letter from the doctor that put the stent in about what
 will happen to it and her if a blood clot develops would be a place to
 start.
 PT

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 *From:* Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, March 4, 2013 1:02:22 PM
 *Subject:* CSquestion

 Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just
 had a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.

 Thanks,

 Sarah



CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton
Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
Foods rich in Viamin K
Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
garlic
dried fruit
fish
leafy green vegitables
 alcohol
natokinase


Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Rachel Hawkridge
Take magnesium citrate capsules.

It's missing from our depleted soil and water.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.comwrote:

 What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?


 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton 
 judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 **



  -Original Message-
 *From:* Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSafib

Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required
 for muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may
 be helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance
 of the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj





-- 

*Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb


*


Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail is 
transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  They 
also 
sell magnesium prills.
PT





From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!


Take magnesium citrate capsules.

It's missing from our depleted soil and water.




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:

What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

 
 
  
-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed  [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17  AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required  for 
 muscle 
contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be  helpful. 
 
From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of  the 
problem.  
And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are  deficient in others.  
Best wishes,  pj




-- 

Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb

Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread ASL
Does the transdermal magnesium oil stings when applied on skin?






On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's
 cocktail is transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from
 www.health-and-wisdom.com  They also sell magnesium prills.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSafib -- so true!

 Take magnesium citrate capsules.

 It's missing from our depleted soil and water.


 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.comwrote:

 What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?


 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton 
 judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 **



  -Original Message-
 *From:* Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* CSafib

Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required
 for muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may
 be helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance
 of the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj





 --

 *Peace . . .

 Rachel Hawkridge
 in a NE Seattle 'burb


 *



Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

2013-03-04 Thread James McDonald
If you are using permanent magnets you won't get the effects that you need!, 
you need the electromagnetic that has a very fast rise and fall time as well as 
a very high guass rating to do what the Beck protocol does.




 From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs
 

Hi PT,
 
How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many times 
a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many hours.
 
You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?
 
I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to discomfort 
around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas herbal tea 
last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i can have them 
handy.
 
Many Thanks.
 
Melly 

Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that clear 
'sticky-blood'.
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! Did 
the insurance at least cover the stent?

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Sarah Miller wrote:

 Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had a 
 stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sarah



Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
Unfortunately the very best way to absorb Mag is through the skin, in the form 
of diluted mag oil (google it) I find it difficult to comply, despite its 
excellent reviews, as it feels like post-it glue on the skin and must be washed 
off after a half hour, which makes for yet another awkward routine. Apparently 
the stuff you ingest loses most of its benefit through the gut.

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Rachel Hawkridge wrote:

 Take magnesium citrate capsules.
 
 It's missing from our depleted soil and water.
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSafib
 
   Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for 
 muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be 
 helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of 
 the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are 
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Peace . . .
 
 Rachel Hawkridge
 in a NE Seattle 'burb
 
 



Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
Hi PT,
I prill my drinking water and I know prill beads are form of magnesium, but 
thought they were mainly for alkalizing and didn't really contribute much for 
someone who was mag-deficient. How much do prills contribute to daily needs?

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:45 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail 
 is transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  
 They also sell magnesium prills.
 PT
 
 From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
 Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!
 
 Take magnesium citrate capsules.
 
 It's missing from our depleted soil and water.
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSafib
 
   Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for 
 muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be 
 helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of 
 the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are 
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Peace . . .
 
 Rachel Hawkridge
 in a NE Seattle 'burb
 
 



Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
It can at first and it's good to dilute 50/50 at first. I sprayed it on and 
felt that was messy and wasteful; then I made roll-ons, and the sting doesn't 
amount to much at all any more, but if you forget to wash it off, it's a nasty 
texture against clothes or sheets.

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:47 PM, ASL wrote:

 Does the transdermal magnesium oil stings when applied on skin? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail 
 is transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  
 They also sell magnesium prills.
 PT
 
 From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
 Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!
 
 Take magnesium citrate capsules.
 
 It's missing from our depleted soil and water.
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:
 What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSafib
 
   Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for 
 muscle contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be 
 helpful.  From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of 
 the problem.  And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are 
 deficient in others.  Best wishes,  pj
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Peace . . .
 
 Rachel Hawkridge
 in a NE Seattle 'burb
 
 
 



RE: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread bob Larson
there are?  for sure? 
has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could
observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
 


  _  

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSquestion


There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that
clear 'sticky-blood'. 
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that
builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all!
Did the insurance at least cover the stent?


Be well,
Léna



CSFrequency Specific Microcurrent device?

2013-03-04 Thread jess
PT,  what device are you using for Frequency Specific microcurrent?   Jess

From: PT Ferrance 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

It depends on the person.  Each person must monitor how they feel.  I do it 
over night.  Frequency specific microcurrent is what I use but there are other 
delivery methods.  A simple hara massage (google it) can also be of great help.
Good luck.
PT




From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 11:39:36 AM
Subject: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil Packs

  Hi PT,

  How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Also how many 
times a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and for how many hours.

  You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for this?

  I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to 
discomfort around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took pancreas 
herbal tea last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to know more treatments so i 
can have them handy.

  Many Thanks.

  Melly 


Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates too 
quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a normal 
texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, I have a 
pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an increase in 
energy and better circulation. 
Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in 
mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is 
different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the time.

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:

 there are?  for sure?
 has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you could 
 observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
 or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
  
 
 From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSquestion
 
 There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that 
 clear 'sticky-blood'.
 Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
 builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! 
 Did the insurance at leastcover the stent?
 
 Be well,
 Léna



Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread Dan Nave
Traditionally, aspirin is used as a blood thinner.  Many people take 1
baby aspirin a day for that purpose.  One could take more to thin the
blood more.

Natto enzyme, available for a fairly cheap price at places like
Swanson's Vitamins, will clear out fibrin from the blood.  One dose
will last about 10-12 hours so one may want to take 2 a day, one in
the am and one in the pm.  You could discuss this all with the doctor
who should be willing to advise if one cannot afford the blood
thinners.

Dan


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 Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had
 a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.

 Thanks,

 Sarah


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Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread Dan Nave
Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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RE: CSnatural blood thinners . . oops!.

2013-03-04 Thread Judy Knowlton
Oops -- you are correct. I think K is also a
normalizer to some extent -- not helpful if you want the thinning coumadin
in any case!.

 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 4:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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Re: CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread Monique Sauve
I thought silver only killed bad bacteria not good?  I thought that was 
the benefit of taking it over antibiotics.

Fecal transplants are good for treating c diff.

Monique


On 3/4/2013 4:02 AM, Dianne France wrote:
Silver kills bacteria good or bad if reached.  I had a problem with 
C-Diff after back to back major surgeries.  My natural therapy doctor 
(also an MD) told
me the very best probiotic to help C-Diff is Saccharmomyces 
Boulardii+Mos.  I can buy it local at the health store or order it 
from www.I-herb.com http://www.I-herb.com.
This probiotic is also non-dairy which works for me since I am 
allergic to dairy.  This probiotic also helped my dad when he was 
having problems.





From: ssch...@twcny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:51:35 -0500
Subject: CSc diff

I have late stage lyme and treating but developed c diff.  I have 
argentyn silver and was wondering 2 things does silver treat c diff 
and does silver kill beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic would?




Re: CSAfib Thanks

2013-03-04 Thread bruce Anderson


Many thanks to all who relied.  It's nice to know you can get help when 
you need it.  Thank you all again.

Bruce A.t

+On 3/3/2013 8:21 PM, Bruce Anderson wrote:


Anyone know of anything that works for afib?
Thanks:
Bruce a.



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Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread ejohns9525

Vit E helps thin blood

Edith


-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Yes, but if you wet the skin first it will not sting.  Let it air dry and you 
are good to go.  Make sure to rinse your hands after applications.
PT





From: ASL aslra...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:48:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!

Does the transdermal magnesium oil stings when applied on skin? 







On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail is 
transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  They 
also 
sell magnesium prills.
PT





From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!


Take magnesium citrate capsules.

It's missing from our depleted soil and water.




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:

What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

 
 
  
-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed  [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17  AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required  for 
 muscle 
contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be  
helpful.  
From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of  the 
problem.  
And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are  deficient in others. 
 
Best wishes,  pj




-- 

Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb


 


Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
Hi Lena,
Sorry, I don't know.  I don't use them because I never really understood what 
they do.
PT





From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 3:15:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!

Hi PT,
I prill my drinking water and I know prill beads are form of magnesium, but 
thought they were mainly for alkalizing and didn't really contribute much for 
someone who was mag-deficient. How much do prills contribute to daily needs?

Be well,
Léna

On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:45 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail is 
transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  They 
also 
sell magnesium prills.
PT





From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!


Take magnesium citrate capsules.

It's missing from our depleted soil and water.




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:

What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy 
Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 
 


-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required for 
 muscle 
contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be helpful. 
 
From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of the 
problem.  
And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are deficient in others.  
Best wishes,  pj




-- 

Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb





Re: CSafib -- so true!

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
I often thought that re-wetting it helped the body absorb more of the mag that 
was just sitting on the skin.
PT





From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 3:17:39 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!

It can at first and it's good to dilute 50/50 at first. I sprayed it on and 
felt 
that was messy and wasteful; then I made roll-ons, and the sting doesn't amount 
to much at all any more, but if you forget to wash it off, it's a nasty texture 
against clothes or sheets.

Be well,
Léna

On Mar 4, 2013, at 1:47 PM, ASL wrote:

Does the transdermal magnesium oil stings when applied on skin? 













On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

One of the best ways to absorb magnesium other than the A-fibber's cocktail is 
transdermally.  I get my magnesium oil from www.health-and-wisdom.com  They 
also 
sell magnesium prills.
PT





From: Rachel Hawkridge rayeh...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 1:41:45 PM
Subject: Re: CSafib -- so true!


Take magnesium citrate capsules.

It's missing from our depleted soil and water.




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Sarah Miller sarahmiller...@gmail.com wrote:

What are some good ways to get efficient in magnesium?



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Judy Knowlton 
judydownma...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed  [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:17  AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSafib


  Since nearly everyone is deficient in magnesium (which is required  for 
 muscle 
contraction and relaxation) supplementing with this nutrient may be  
helpful.  
From what I have read, it usually results in the disappearance of  the 
problem.  
And if we are deficient in one mineral, we usually are  deficient in 
others.  
Best wishes,  pj




-- 

Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb


 



Re: CSFrequency Specific Microcurrent device?

2013-03-04 Thread PT Ferrance
It is called a CustomCare.  I am researching an F165 to see if that would work 
as it will hold many more programs.
PT





From: jess jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 3:27:31 PM
Subject: CSFrequency Specific Microcurrent device?


PT,  what device are you using for Frequency Specific  microcurrent?   Jess 
From: PT Ferrance 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil  Packs
  It depends on the person.  Each person must monitor how they  feel.  I do it 
over night.  Frequency specific microcurrent is what I  use but there are other 
delivery methods.  A simple hara massage (google  it) can also be of great help.
Good luck.
PT

 


 From: Melly Bag  tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, March 4, 2013 11:39:36 AM
Subject: CSLiver Cleanse - Castor Oil  Packs


Hi PT,
 
How long does one do the castor oil pack in terms of days.  Alsohow 
many 
times a day does one have to apply it on the liver area and forhow many 
hours.
 
You also suggested using frequencies, what method do you suggest for
this?
 
I applied magnets yesterday on all my organs and sternum due to
discomfort around my stomach on left side as well as gas.  Also took
pancreas herbal tea last night.  Today, no pain.  I want to knowmore 
treatments so i can have them handy.
 
Many Thanks.
 
Melly 

Re: CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread Marshall
CS kills all bacteria it comes in contact with.  But the only GOOD 
bacteria in a person's body are in the colon, where it cannot come in 
contact with them, unless you have dysentery, in which case it will come 
in them, and they are bad.  Whether it kills good or bad bacteria is 
based on the environment, silver does not magically know what is good 
and what is bad.


Marshall

On 3/4/2013 6:01 PM, Monique Sauve wrote:
I thought silver only killed bad bacteria not good?  I thought that 
was the benefit of taking it over antibiotics.

Fecal transplants are good for treating c diff.

Monique


On 3/4/2013 4:02 AM, Dianne France wrote:
Silver kills bacteria good or bad if reached.  I had a problem with 
C-Diff after back to back major surgeries.  My natural therapy doctor 
(also an MD) told
me the very best probiotic to help C-Diff is Saccharmomyces 
Boulardii+Mos.  I can buy it local at the health store or order it 
from www.I-herb.com http://www.I-herb.com.
This probiotic is also non-dairy which works for me since I am 
allergic to dairy.  This probiotic also helped my dad when he was 
having problems.





From: ssch...@twcny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:51:35 -0500
Subject: CSc diff

I have late stage lyme and treating but developed c diff.  I have 
argentyn silver and was wondering 2 things does silver treat c diff 
and does silver kill beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic would?




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RE: CSc diff

2013-03-04 Thread Neville Munn

Personally I think it depends on what form of EIS/CS is ingested.  The so 
called CS one purchases from the shop may contain more neutral charged 
particles, which may in turn work their way through the system unchanged 
resulting in possibly affecting good flora.  Home produced EIS/CS is 
predominantly Ag+ ions, hence they will not work their way through the system 
unchanged, they will combine with other substances within the bodies system 
long before they have a chance to affect the good flora.
N.

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:01:16 -0800
From: moniquesa...@shaw.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSc diff


  

  
  
I thought silver only killed bad bacteria not good?  I thought that
was the benefit of taking it over antibiotics.

Fecal transplants are good for treating c diff.



Monique





On 3/4/2013 4:02 AM, Dianne France
  wrote:



  
  
Silver kills bacteria good or bad if reached.  I had a problem
with C-Diff after back to back major surgeries.  My natural
therapy doctor (also an MD) told

me the very best probiotic to help C-Diff is Saccharmomyces
Boulardii+Mos.  I can buy it local at the health store or order
it from www.I-herb.com.

This probiotic is also non-dairy which works for me since I am
allergic to dairy.  This probiotic also helped my dad when he
was having problems.

 



 


  From: ssch...@twcny.rr.com

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com

  Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 05:51:35 -0500

  Subject: CSc diff

  

  
  I have late stage lyme and
  treating but developed c diff.  I have argentyn silver and
  was wondering 2 things does silver treat c diff and does
  silver kill beneficial bacteria like an antibiotic would?

  


  

RE: CSAny success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?

2013-03-04 Thread Neville Munn

Apparently the Lymph system is very ~ lazy? ~ hence the magnetic pulser is used 
over the lymph nodes to fire them into action which releases ~ whatever? ~ back 
into the circulatory system whereby the blood cleaner and/or EIS deals with 
that ~ whatever? ~ from there.  That's the theory of how it works anyway.
This I believe is what occurs with some cancers.  It cannot be found in the 
blood because the cells hide in the lymph system until something stimulates 
them to re-enter the circulatory system, and once returned to the circulatory 
system it's anyones guess what happens then...?
N.

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:22:33 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAny success treating mononucleosis with C.S.?



  

  
  
Bob Beck.  He developed the magnetic pulser to get to pathogens in
the lymph system because none of the other 3, CS ozonated water, and
zapper were efficient in getting them according to what I remember
him writing.



I also know that my sister who had lyme was only able to beat it
after adding the pulser to the lymph nodes to the protocol.



Marshall



On 3/2/2013 3:15 PM, Jim Holmes wrote:
Marshall,

  

  I was surprised by your statement about CS and the lymph system. 
  I had read many years earleir that it concentrated in the nodes,
  in proximity to the pathogens sequestered there. On what do you
  base your knowledge? 

  

  Thank you,

  

  Jim  

  

  On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:03 PM, PT
Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
wrote:


  

  Frequencies.

PT

  
  



From:
phoenix23002 tds.net
phoenix23...@tds.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent:
Fri, March 1, 2013 8:20:28 PM

Subject:
Re: CSAny success treating mononucleosis with
C.S.?

  
  


  Just curious, PT but.. how are the neurotoxins
  being removed?  Thanks.. Lola H.

  

  On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at
5:56 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
wrote:


  

  I've had it twice 10 years apart...
1965 and 1974ish.  Didn't know about CS
when I had it.  The doc didn't believe
it could be contracted a second time so
I walked around catching all kinds of
infections before I saw another doc who
dx it.  I just found someone who is
helping to remove the neurotoxins left
behind by the virus.  It has been
amazing.

PT

  
  



From:
Robert Maginnis bobm...@att.net

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent:
Fri, March 1, 2013 4:02:14 PM

Subject:
CSAny success treating
mononucleosis with C.S.?

  
  


  

  
 
I know 2 teen age
  relatives who
  have mononucleosis. 
  Anybody have success
  treating mononucleosis
  with C.S.?
 
Thanks.  Bob Maginnis 
bobm...@att.net
  

  

  

  

  

Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread cking001
I switched from coumadin to nattokinase after doing my due diligence
research.
My cardiologist want me to consider aspirin, but that has it's own
list of bad effects including blindness.

Chuck
The greatest threat to the Republic is that people rarely question 
 the authenticity of political quotes at the bottoms of emails - 
 Thomas Jefferson 

On 3/4/2013 1:01:42 PM, Sarah Miller (sarahmiller...@gmail.com) wrote:
Do you know anything to replace blood thinners?  Have a friend who just had
a stint put in and has to be on them but her insurance won't cover it.


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Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread Gregory Schaller
contrary to popular belief, blood thinners do not THIN the blood
taking blood thinners (eg aspirin, coumadin, etc.) do not thin the blood

what blood thinners do is either impair platelet functioning or impair 
clotting factor production/function
taking blood thinners does NOT make blood thinner (more watery)
increasing fluid intake can reduce dehydration, reducing hematocrit, which is 
the lab number for liquid to solid ratio of the blood -
a lower hematocrit # translates into more liquid blood with less solid (blood 
cells) in it 

many health care professionals mislead the public by using the words blood 
thinner and 
in my experience many health care professionals don't even understand the 
concept themselves

there is likely a limit to how watery one can make blood,
as the kidneys are designed to regulate the amount of water in the body via 
various feedback loops ...
damaged kidneys can impair body water regulation (as can damage to the 
endocrine system 
which is involved in messaging body hydration throughout the organism

please folks, use the term blood thinning accurately
do some research; google platelet function (such as platelet aggregation) and 
google clotting factors or clotting factor cascade

GS



 From: ejohns9...@aol.com ejohns9...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .
 

Vit E helps thin blood
 
Edith
-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning... Dan On 
Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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RE: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread Neville Munn

Just a layman's perspective so don't go off on a wild tangent and think I'm 
having a go at you here...
I'd rather take aspirin that Warfarin, which is rat poison, and as I understand 
it, 'thinning the blood' to a point whereby the heart just ceases to function, 
bleed to death if you like.  Aspirin has been used since Adam wore short pants. 
 Quantity or amount taken according to the circumstance.  While 'blood thinner' 
may not be politically correct at least it's globally recognised and understood 
as preventing clots without having a doctorate or degree to understand the 
why's and wherefore's g.
I'm not smart enough to understand the complexities of what it does or how it 
works, and I certainly wouldn't wade through a heap of human biological jargon 
and terminologies to try to understand it, if it worked for my ancestors it'll 
work for me, that's about all I need to know.

A while ago here in Australia there was a media campaign trying to put people 
off taking aspirin for just such a purpose...I wonder why that would be {nudge, 
nudge, wink, wink, say n'more}...Why self medicate and possibly cause more harm 
than good when the establishment to do it for you g.  If I'm going to die, by 
and large, I'd rather it be by my own hand than someone else's.

Again, I'm not having a go here, just voicing a layman's perspective {friend, 
mate, pal, buddy}.
N.

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:48:30 -0800
From: sky_wav...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

contrary to popular belief, blood thinners do not THIN the bloodtaking blood 
thinners (eg aspirin, coumadin, etc.) do not thin the blood
what blood thinners do is either impair platelet functioning or impair 
clotting factor production/functiontaking blood thinners does NOT make blood 
thinner (more watery)increasing fluid intake can reduce dehydration,
 reducing hematocrit, which is the lab number for liquid to solid ratio of the 
blood -a lower hematocrit # translates into more liquid blood with less solid 
(blood cells) in it 
many health care professionals mislead the public by using the words blood 
thinner and in my experience many
 health care professionals don't even understand the concept themselves
there is likely a limit to how watery one can make blood,as the kidneys are 
designed to regulate the amount of water in the body via various feedback loops 
...damaged kidneys can impair body water regulation (as can damage to the 
endocrine system which is involved in messaging body hydration throughout the 
organism
please folks, use the term blood thinning accuratelydo some research; google 
platelet function (such as platelet aggregation) and google clotting factors or 
clotting factor cascade
GS
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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 6:31 PM
 Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .
   


Vit E helps thin blood

 

Edith





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Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .












Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
 Foods rich in Viamin K
 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,
 garlic
 dried fruit
 fish
 leafy green vegitables
  alcohol
 natokinase


 Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy greens, such as Swiss chard,
 kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
 liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented dairy, including yogurt,
 cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and natto,


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Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .

2013-03-04 Thread mgperrault
How to triple or quadruple your chances of stroke and heart attack;  
Abruptly stop taking low dose aspirin.   Go off slowly.
How to deactivate all your platelets for four days;  take one dose of 
30mg aspirin.  (McDougal)
How to prevent clots and heart attacks;  Avoid hydrogenated fats and 
cooked or rancid fats.  Take vit C with lysine, Vit E and alpha lipoic 
acid.
Nattokinase works differently than other thinners.  Its an enzyme that 
dissolves fibrin







On 3/4/2013 7:00 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
Just a layman's perspective so don't go off on a wild tangent and 
think I'm having a go at you here...


I'd rather take aspirin that Warfarin, which is rat poison, and as I 
understand it, 'thinning the blood' to a point whereby the heart just 
ceases to function, bleed to death if you like.  Aspirin has been used 
since Adam wore short pants.  Quantity or amount taken according to 
the circumstance.  While 'blood thinner' may not be politically 
correct at least it's globally recognised and understood as preventing 
clots without having a doctorate or degree to understand the why's and 
wherefore's g.


I'm not smart enough to understand the complexities of what it does or 
how it works, and I certainly wouldn't wade through a heap of human 
biological jargon and terminologies to try to understand it, if it 
worked for my ancestors it'll work for me, that's about all I need to 
know.


A while ago here in Australia there was a media campaign trying to put 
people off taking aspirin for just such a purpose...I wonder why that 
would be {nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say n'more}...Why self medicate 
and possibly cause more harm than good when the establishment to do it 
for you g.  If I'm going to die, by and large, I'd rather it be by 
my own hand than someone else's.


Again, I'm not having a go here, just voicing a layman's perspective 
{friend, mate, pal, buddy}.


N.


Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:48:30 -0800
From: sky_wav...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSnatural blood thinners . . .
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

contrary to popular belief, blood thinners do not THIN the blood
taking blood thinners (eg aspirin, coumadin, etc.) do not thin the blood

what blood thinners do is either impair platelet functioning or 
impair clotting factor production/function

taking blood thinners does NOT make blood thinner (more watery)
increasing fluid intake can reduce dehydration, reducing hematocrit, 
which is the lab number for liquid to solid ratio of the blood -
a lower hematocrit # translates into more liquid blood with less 
solid (blood cells) in it


many health care professionals mislead the public by using the words 
blood thinner and
in my experience many health care professionals don't even understand 
the concept themselves


there is likely a limit to how watery one can make blood,
as the kidneys are designed to regulate the amount of water in the 
body via various feedback loops ...
damaged kidneys can impair body water regulation (as can damage to the 
endocrine system

which is involved in messaging body hydration throughout the organism

please folks, use the term blood thinning accurately
do some research; google platelet function (such as platelet 
aggregation) and google clotting factors or clotting factor cascade


GS


*F*





Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread suzy

Hi Lena,
Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being 
the most helpful to run?

It sounds like a great idea for all of us!
Suzy
On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and 
coagulates too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a 
day my blood is a normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and 
picking at the plaques, I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe 
this.) I also notice an increase in energy and better circulation.
Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please 
keep in mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that 
every body is different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's 
getting better all the time.


Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:


there are?  for sure?
has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where 
you could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?

or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?


*From:* Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
*Sent:* Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CSquestion

There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate
frequencies that clear 'sticky-blood'.
Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much
sludge that builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance
won't cover these. At all! Did the insurance at least cover the
stent?

Be well,
Léna



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CS Blood thinning

2013-03-04 Thread Harold
The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin 
the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it to 
clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the same.
If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an 
engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was 
medically discharged.Our old time Dr.  had him on one Drug only [by script in 
those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even knew 
what Vit. E was before then.
AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a 
form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;you’re right,VITAMIN 
E!!!
TA DA !!! and I’m still here,big as life and twice as unnatural.
Keep your fingers crossed kiddies.

Regards,

Harold



Re: CSquestion

2013-03-04 Thread Lena Guyot
I checked CAFL and it's not there, so I can't remember where/when I got the 
series, but I managed to hand copy from my FScan 2. They work for me. I'm not a 
doc, just a Lymie lab-rat, so can't actually recommend anything for anyone 
else, or anyone else's machine.

62000
63000
87000
89000
91000
94000
96000
98000
99000
105000
163000
316000
319000
379000 

Be well,
Léna
On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:19 PM, suzy wrote:

 Hi Lena,
 Do you have a set of sticky-blood frequencies you'd recommend as being the 
 most helpful to run?
 It sounds like a great idea for all of us!
 Suzy
 On 3/4/2013 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot wrote:
 First hand. Whenever a scab or cut bleeds thickly, stickily, and coagulates 
 too quickly, I know it's time to run the frx and within a day my blood is a 
 normal texture and flow again. (having psoriasis and picking at the plaques, 
 I have a pretty regular opportunity to observe this.) I also notice an 
 increase in energy and better circulation. 
 Of course, I also do a lot of detox to carry off the debris. Please keep in 
 mind: If Lyme teaches us nothing else, it teaches us that every body is 
 different. I'm no doc, just a Lymie lab-rat who's getting better all the 
 time.
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 On Mar 4, 2013, at 3:28 PM, bob Larson wrote:
 
 there are?  for sure?
 has one done that for you or someone physically close to you where you 
 could observe the efficacy of the Rife treatment?
 or is this 2nd or 3rd hand ?
  
 
 From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 12:04 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSquestion
 
 There are Rife machines (google Rife) that can generate frequencies that 
 clear 'sticky-blood'.
 Many people with Lyme do this routinely because we have so much sludge that 
 builds up and reduces good blood-flow. Insurance won't cover these. At all! 
 Did the insurance at least cover the stent?
 
 Be well,
 Léna
 
 No virus found in this message.
 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
 Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6147 - Release Date: 03/04/13
 
 



RE: CS Blood thinning

2013-03-04 Thread Neville Munn

HAHA, love a sense of humour.
Well, many moons ago my old mum decided to take Vit E.  I don't know if she did 
this on her own accord or had spoken to someone about it as I didn't live home, 
but she had a heart attack and karked it in her 59th year.  I do remember when 
I was a teen asking her why she was taking them and she said they were for your 
heart?  I think she may have read too much and decided to self medicate, but 
that Vit E sort of stuck in my memory.
Because she probly started taking them after hitting the 50 or 55 mark who's to 
say it didn't dislodge a form of clot or something from the blood vessel walls 
which enabled it to reach the heart and that's what took her out?  Or perhaps 
she took more than she should have and things went too quick?  Interesting 
Harold??
N.

From: har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS Blood thinning
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:36:11 -0800





The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not 
thin the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing 
it to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the 
same.
If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was 
an engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was 
medically discharged.Our old time Dr.  had him on one Drug only [by script 
in those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even 
knew what Vit. E was before then.
AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] 
a form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;you’re right,VITAMIN 
E!!!
TA DA !!! and I’m still here,big as life and twice as unnatural.
Keep your fingers crossed kiddies.
 
Regards,
 
Harold
 
  

Re: CS Blood thinning

2013-03-04 Thread RaVen
Which vitamin E (soy-free, dye-free, preservative-free) supplement do you 
recommend for people to take? It seems we have to consume so much expensive 
organic food only to get adequate amounts. 
And should vitamin E be paired up with another vitamin or mineral? 



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On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

 The best description I heard from a good source was that Aspirin did not thin 
 the blood,it only made the blood slippryer [spell ?],thereby not allowing it 
 to clump or clot,or stick to the blood vessel walls..AND Vitamin E does the 
 same.
 If I may relate what happened to my father back in 1942,[he was 45].He was an 
 engineer in the Army,Staff sergeant.Had a severe coronary Occlusion,was 
 medically discharged.Our old time Dr.  had him on one Drug only [by script in 
 those days ], and it was Vitamin E.He lived until he was 77+.We never even 
 knew what Vit. E was before then.
 AND,when I came back from England [RCAF] after the war ,I was enjoying [?] a 
 form of PTSD ,guess what the same Dr. prescribed for me;you’re right,VITAMIN 
 E!!!
 TA DA !!! and I’m still here,big as life and twice as unnatural.
 Keep your fingers crossed kiddies.
  
 Regards,
  
 Harold