Re: CSCS and allergies
Tracy, Here is a website that seems to be working for people with emphysema and some are using nebulizers and some vaporizers, etc. hydrogenperox...@yahoogroups.com Best Wishes, Bill Keen Tracy Bennett drnm...@earthlink.net wrote: All I know is I am tired of feeling horrible everyday. As a teen I was diagnosed with Asthmatic Bronchitis (spelling?) and it seems like it is back. The lung infections it allows are twice as bad as anything. If I could get some relief it would be great. I am willing to try just about anything. If facing the East and howling at the moon helps I am howling tonight. Tracy - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin To: Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: CSCS and allergies Tracy said, I also need all the information I can get regarding using an Nebulizer (spelling?) with the CS for things like Asthma and allergies. Inhaled CS using a nebulizer can have very positive benefit for asthma, in my own experience. The number of experiences that have been labeled and thought of as allergies is too numerous to count. Simplistically, an allergy is the body reacting to something. It can be something toxic or unhealthy, or it can be something that is actually very good for you, but the body is confused about it. What causes the body to do this is also not simple. Heredity (the high incident of milk allergy among black folks is an example), weakened immune function and repeated exposure to a harsh substance are reasons. Emotions play a large part in the experience of allergic reactions, as is well-known among various types of counselors. Allergic reactions are frequently the body's healthy attempt to rid itself of chemicals/foods/microbes (which is when CS can help). I have repeatedly also seen various allergic reactions - like sneezing, runny eyes and nose, itching, rashes, headaches, cramps and stomach aches - vanish after one or two enemas or colonics. That would be an example of an allergic reaction being the body wanting to rid itself of something. To assume that something doesn't help with allergies, you must first define what you mean by allergies. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSCS as a preservative
Sol, CS works to prevent infection of any type of wound. The gel just keeps it 'wet' longer. Put any type of bandage over any wound/scrape and dampen it with CS and watch it. Bill Keen sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Yes, but what specifically? Open wounds? Infected wounds? Or soothing rashes, and bruises? I'd really like to know *specifically* what types of things you find your gels miraculaous for. thanks, sol Sandee George wrote:
Re: CSCS brewing tips
Carol Ann, The current is critical with making LVDC CS. If your power supply is unregulated it will continue to 'ramp up' the current as the conduction factor increases with the increase of CS %age. The best CS gen's are those which have a current limiter to hold the current to 1ma or less. Yours will provide up to 1000 times this (even though it may never reach that point). The increase in current is taking 'bigger bites' of the silver electrode without helping your actual CS. It is like taking a pinch of sand and adding it to a bucket of water to make 'good' CS or, with the larger current you are taking a handful and dumping it into the bucket. Some of the handful will add to the CS but the 'clump' will fall to the bottom and be wasted. By reducing the current your production time will increase but the CS should remain clear or very nearly so no matter what %age you reach. You can add a CLD to your device easily since you are not using a 'manufactured' one. The instructions are in the archives and help is available here whenever you ask. Best Wishes, Bill Keen Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Carol Ann said, I am using a Radio Shack AC Adapter. It has a 13.5/30 alternating switch. 1000mA. I have experimented my process beginning at 30 and when the solution reaches 1 or 2 ppm I switch to 13.5. Eventually, regardless of where I begin, I finish with a settled solution which is not clear. The end product is always some shade of yellow. Also, it may read 10-12 when I am done, but eventually settles anywhere from 3-6 as a finished products days later and always the color deepens. Do you think the Adapter using 1000mA is too high?
Re: CSMaximum silver
Carol Ann, IMO - you should ozonate the CS not the other way around. Ozone is unstable and would seem to be destroyed by the electrolysis process while the benefits of CS would be enhanced by the ozone during treatment. I say, make the CS and then bubble it with ozone. BTW - as for the current control: V said: It is not too high because the CS pr! ocess is only going to use what it needs. This isn't exactly correct. The silver will act like a 'wire' to allow the current to flow and the more silver the bigger the wire and the more current it will carry - and it will. Look at it as if it were a jar full of silver which would then be a direct short and drain the battery as fast as possible. Now, the way we make it is somewhere in the middle if you don't use a CLD to limit the current. BUT - the longer you cook it the more current it will draw. Best Wishes, Bill Keen Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: OK V. thanks for the suggestion. I'll try a small fish tank bubbler. As an aside, I recenlty purchased a small ambient air Ozonator which uses a porus bubbling rock. Has anyone made CS using Ozonated water? As for removing the electrodes and wiping them. All usually goes well in that area and cleaning does not seem necessary as the bearding is minimal, if at all. However, at the times when I have neglected to switch to the 13.5 in a timely manner, the bearding which otherwise is not existent becomes prolific, producing many more particles. So, in this regard I learned that a faster process not mean better quality or higher pmm.
Re: CSParasite Cleanse - Marshall
Marshall, Here is the URL that V sent which is posted below your post: http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html That site charges $6.95 for 6 oz of DE Food Grade + SH which is somewhere around $1.50/oz. THAT is where I got the price. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Bill Keen wrote: Thanks V, That's what I paid for the 8 lb bag at the feed store. I haven't seen any evidence of anything wrong after using the fs source so I'll continue using it Why do you think there would be anything wrong with it? They would be selling food grade, not the swimming pool stuff. I don't mind giving some away for flea powder to my neighbors that way and it certainly hasn't hurt my dogs and cats. THis is the first that I've even heard of food grade DE. One of the reference sites says that if you have eaten anything made with wheat flour you have eaten DE. Apparently because it is used an an insecticide in the grain storage facilities. At $1.50/oz I seriously doubt that they are using food grade for a silo of grain. Where did you get that absurd price? Food grade DE sells for about $2.50 a pound, not $1.50 and ounce. http://www.gardenharvestsupply.com/de_permaguard.aspx so adding about .1% of that to a pound of flour would only cost about .2 cents. Marshall I'm going to have to read a lot more to find out just when/where/why the DE is heated and how much. Thanks, Bill Keen V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bill, I got food grade DE here at this site. http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html
Re: CSNew member..
Frank, Check out: www.glycoresource.com On the left side is a list of diseases and cancer is in the middle of the page. You can contact the company at www.Mannatech.com for more help or call: Bob Johnston @ 817-800-3142 who may be able to help even more. This company is in Coppell. Bill Keen Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. My father has cancer and it is taking my mom and I both to take care of him as he cannot get out of bed. I am looking for an immediate cure. I just joined and I'm in Dallas. I know health stores carry this but I have not looked into the cost yet. Any recommendations?
Re: CSvitamin c
Why are most people afraid to leave? Because they aren't sure that they will be on the Good Ones list and may get the 'shadows' instead. Bill Keen Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Being ready to go makes staying a lot more fun. Ready at 52. ..and very glad to not be younger. I don't think it will get better before it gets a lot worse. Ode At 10:07 PM 1/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: Gad I hope I DON`T live that long. After all I`ve been through I have come to the conclusion that this world stinks. And, why are people so afraid to leave?? It is much better on the other side. I`m ready to go now, at 53. Marshalee
Re: CSWas vitamin c, living and loving it
Daddybob, Have you been to: www.lymephotos.com ? Bill Keen ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Hey V- I thought you were an Old Fart HAHA! But you don't have much on me- I'm 51 and every morning now I lust at the thoughts of what I will learn today. I'm going to see Dr. Bill today- you know who I'm talking about- about building the Energy Pulser. I can't wait! Marshalee- Don't Give Up! I could bore you to tears with the troubles I've seen and I've sure been where you are. But now I don't fear death, I just love seeing what's going to happen next. I don't think I've said too much here, but we are dealing with Lyme disease in our youngest daughter. It was quite a blow!!! But now it's caused me to take trips up little roads to find wonders and treasures I never thought of. An
Re: CSMaximum silver content
Terry, Once I let some HVAC CS stand where it got some direct sunlight and it turned into a dark gray that looked like sewage. After that one time mine has never been in direct sunlight and not close to a window or directly across from a window. I've never had that happen since then. Bill Keen Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: of the charge that particle has. I believe the reason high-voltage CS is unaffected by sunlight, heat, cold, magnetism, time, etc., is because the particles were Terry Chamberlin
Re: CSNew member..
Frank, I didn't find an answer to your question so here I am. The correct spelling is argyria. Is it bad? Well, not really. By that I mean that it isn't going to kill you, make you 'sick', or even hurt. All it does is turn your skin into a kind of grey color. Now for the Rest-Of-The-Story: CS can't cause argyria! It takes much larger particles than are currently available using any of the methods/generators discussed on this site. Generally it is caused by ingesting ground-up silver and not EIS. There hasn't been one documented case of argyria from anyone using CS as it is made now. I have a friend who had Agent Orange Poisoning and managed to stay alive until they admitted to a cure by drinking 1 gallon of 30ppm CS every day. He did not turn grey. You are certainly right in asking, just remember to read everything carefully. Best Wishes, Bill Keen Frank West ideas4saleortr...@yahoo.com wrote: i read something about argaria(spellt right?) and that its bad
Re: CSliving or not
See Marshalee, Things are looking up already! Bill Keen Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Not much fun, though, being lonely, in pain, and bored stiffl At least Harry Potter is fun! I do try to share CS with all and sundry who will listen, and boy, that is worthwhile!! Marshalee PS, My son told me today he wants me to move closer to him so he can see me more often, that made my day! I`m trying now to find something, as the landlord here is a real sob. Marshalee: Celebrate your freedom and savour life as Marshalee not MRS.X or xx's MoMMY or xxs daughter. Atlast in your life you be what that little girl Marshalee wanted to be. Marshalee Hallett wrote: It is much better on the other side.I`m ready to go now, at 53.I believe you're right that it's better on the other side Marshalee -- but 53 is awful early to leave the party! I hope that 2006 is a better year for you than you've obviously been having.MA Thanks for the kind thoughts, but I really don`t have much of a reason to remain here. Here`s why:I have no hubby, (he dumped me after 27 years of marriage for a woman 6 years older than he was, go figure!), Good, you don't have to share the bed/blanket ot suffer the snores smells of the old fart. enjoy your own smells and feel free to fart.. the 4 kids are grown and gone and don`t really need me any more, (if I didn`t call them, I`d never hear from them), and my few friends are usually busy, so I see them only occasionally. So who needs them. Get up in the morning if you feel like it or sleep in or loll about in your PJ or birthday suit. Don't brush your teeth if you don't feel like it. Don't waste money on phone calls. The telco doesnot need your support. If your kids don't call, it means they are ok. If they dropped dead, there is not a thing you can do. So eitherway no need to worry. Get a cat if you have to. I can`t work, so I spend my long, useless days reading, (I have read the entire Harry Potter series in 7 days, three times, now I`m rereading the entire set of Anne McCaffrey books), watching the tube, or playing on this computer. Occasionally I go to a movie. I have been to three of them in the last 16 months.The only thing making me want to stick around are my little Pugs. (I call them my living Prozac!) The last movie I saw was starwars 25 years ago. I don't miss them. What is on tv ? Lies, murder/mayhem and sex at the drop of a hat. Why would I want to watch someone else performing? Now that my birds have become a burden rather than the joy they were at the beginning, I can`t count on them anymore. It hurts my back to clean their cages, as I have to bend over the tub to scrub the bottom trays and wires. So they get really dirty before I pluck up the courage to clean them. I`m putting an ad in for them today to sell them. sigh... If you like birds that much put up a bird feeder, less work and constant activity. My problem is I need to be needed. Only the doglets need me. Do you hear what you are saying? Your own body/mind needs you and you are looking outside. Take a lovely bubble bath...massage yourself...touch and feel all parts your body, sing a lullaboy to yourself, who cares what your voice sounds like, its YOURS and thats what is important. Get to know your body.Its a living temple. Enjoy the snow flakes and enjoy the sunshine. So much for life. and experince every moment of it. This moment is really all you have Marshalee Regards hg. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: 1/6/06
Re: CSPerma-Guard
Sharie, I was checking on the product labeled Perma-Guard which is DE with additives. This is what is on the front page at this site. Read the 3rd paragraph on the Home Page. I didn't go to the Household Pesticides page. Another assumption. The only really common thing on these Group sites. I just checked the Household Pesticides page and guess what - they only say Perma-Guard Pure Diatomaceous Earth Produdcts. No mention of the additives included. So you might assume that this is the edible DE! Maybe YOU should read before accusing me of NOT reading. There was no mention previously about Fossil Shell Flour. Therefore, Perma-Guard DE is the insecticide NOT the food grade product. It really gets confusing when the Company name and ONE product are the same. Bill Sharie Hartwell hartwells...@hawaii.rr.com wrote: Hi Bill, When you went to the website: www.perma-guard.com, you were only reading from the Household Pesticides page which was DE with the addition of pyrethrum as an insecticide. That form of DE is NOT edible. However, if you click on Fossil Shell Flour for Livestock, you will see this is the edible one DE. Aloha, Sharie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSNasty creatures
Acmeair, For the salt and Vitamin C cleanse see: http://www.lymephotos.com It's in the middle of Daddybob's post below. BE WARNED - the photos are gross considering where they came from. Hitchhikers with bad habits! The article is entitled: Are these things crawling through your body? Best Wishes, Bill Keen Acmeair res00...@gte.net wrote: without the archives to fall back on, i've missed info on the salt and vitamin c protocol, and the vitamin c and niacin thingy. could you give me some leads??? neat list, here. jim ransley wrote: Someone wrote: If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! I've been so busy for weeks now fighting Lyme disease in a family member, that I haven't had time to keep up with this forum, but this caught my eye. Some of you will know that I've been around these forums for a long time and have experienced remarkable recoveries, but nothing prepared me for what I'm going to tell you now (A few here already know about this). I started doing the Salt Vitamin C protocol over a month ago to be in solidarity with my family member. Within a few days, a freaking worm came out of my tongue. I can scarcely describe the revulsion, but the comment above comes pretty dang close! It appears it was a nematode. This creature and this happening are described at Lymephotos.com. Parasites are for real, people. I am now a believer. The ironic thing is that I never gave much credence to parasite infestations before. Now I'm a bit more educated. I could have gotten this thing in larval form from eating a salad. Nematode larva can burrow into any part of your body. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Debby, Read up on it. If you don't believe what we say then why ask? Look back at yesterday's postings from me and read them, please. Pat, Check out the salt/vitamin C purge at: http://www.lymephotos.com It's about half-way down the front page. Don't look at the photos unless you have a good medical background. Bill Keen Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote: how small of a parasite would this be affective on and isn't there any danger of tearing the lining of the stomach or inestines? thanks debbie Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't mind mites and small bugs, just can't stand wormy things hehehe I was thinking...the diatomaceous earth sounds wonderful and very useful, but to rid the body of parasites that might not be in the intestines, you'd have to use the herbal combo wouldn't you? Pat - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
The nurseries used to have Black Flag 'dusters' that you could fill and then 'pump' a powder onto plants. I don't know if they still have these but they must have something similar. Bill Keen marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/5/06 10:25:24 AM Central Standard Time, grace1...@aol.com writes: I think I'll try blowing it on my garden next spring. Meant to ask -- how would you go about *blowing* it on? MA
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
The nurseries used to have Black Flag 'dusters' that you could fill and then 'pump' a powder onto plants. I don't know if they still have these but they must have something similar. Bill Keen marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/5/06 10:25:24 AM Central Standard Time, grace1...@aol.com writes: I think I'll try blowing it on my garden next spring. Meant to ask -- how would you go about *blowing* it on? MA
Re: CStap water CS
V, If I could nail that one down I'd be a physicist instead of a handyman with a long electronics background. Bill V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bill, He He he. well you may pursue that questions the rest fo your life becaues I dont think anybody knows the answers to those queshtions to this day. Even the scientists that are studying it all have not come to any conclusino on that. I think in a wire the electrons move but in a liquid then bothe the holes nad the electrons move. and what are electrons anyway? are they particles or waves or jsut cloauds of some energy or an etheric vortex or an interference pattern of the nuclear radiation wave fronts. If you can nail that one down then your doing good. Take care, V So, Dan, You support the hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? Bill Keen
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
debbie, Here is a site that shows the dosage for animals: http://www.hydromall.com/happy_grower16.html I'm not sure what you mean by die-off to deal with. Bill Keen Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote: how do you know how much to take and is there a die-off to deal with? this is a whole new thing to me...thanks debbie Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote:The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there).
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Thanks V, That's what I paid for the 8 lb bag at the feed store. I haven't seen any evidence of anything wrong after using the fs source so I'll continue using it I don't mind giving some away for flea powder to my neighbors that way and it certainly hasn't hurt my dogs and cats. THis is the first that I've even heard of food grade DE. One of the reference sites says that if you have eaten anything made with wheat flour you have eaten DE. Apparently because it is used an an insecticide in the grain storage facilities. At $1.50/oz I seriously doubt that they are using food grade for a silo of grain. I'm going to have to read a lot more to find out just when/where/why the DE is heated and how much. Thanks, Bill Keen V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bill, I got food grade DE here at this site. http://store.yahoo.com/herbal-remedies-usa/diead6oz.html
Re: CStap water CS
Ode and All, I keep forgetting that I am the only one using the HVAC and CAN'T use anything but silver for electrodes. The same seems to hold true for the Colloid Master as it switches polarity. It was the shock that someone would put something other than silver in to make CS. Sorry about that! [Way behind reading my mail] Bill Keen Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Nothing comes off the cathode. Everything plates 'to' the cathode, Any conductive material can be used. The brass will turn silver in just a few minutes. Ode
Re: CSMore diatomaceous earth info
Terry, Here is a web site from New Jersey which has the OSHA warnings: http://www.state.nj.us/health/eoh/rtkweb/0616.pdf#search='diatomaceous%20earth%20manufacturers' Check out the 'Health Hazard Information'; under Acute Health Effects it says This form of silica is considered a nuisance dust. Under Chronic it says that there is no evidence that it causes cancer in test animals. And, it hasn't been tested for anything else. The New Jersey page was taken from the OSHA. Even if it is 'clumped' they haven't found anything to prove that it can cause cancer, or any other problems. I tried to use the URL that you give and can't find anything on DE under any of the links. Bill Keen Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Just a bit more info about food and other grades of DE:
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
WARNING ! ! ! ! I just checked this site and the Perma-Guard ISN'T FOOD GRADE DE! IT is mixed and CANNOT be taken internally! This is an insecticide sold under the Trade Name. It is purportedly natural and not chemical. They make no claim for Food Grade. From the site: Perma-Guard kills by physical action, not chemical--by puncturing the insects exoskeleton and absorbing its body fluids, thus posing no harm to warm-blooded life. The addition of Pyrethrum and Piperonyl butoxide is to irritate the bug, causing physical action, allowing the DE to work more quickly. Birds who eat bugs get 14 extra trace minerals. Bill Keen cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Jill, Thanks for the report on your success' with DE. A most interesting read! The blower is a great idea. I normally use DE around the foundation to keep ants out of the house, and using your method, it would be much quicker and easier.
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Marshall Dudley, I have been reading and appreciate your post, however, the Pool Filter DE is the different type and is saltwater sourced and does have the silica crystals which are heated to create the larger clumps apparently to enhance the filtration process. The Perma-Guard that you list as a source is mixed and not suitable for ingestion by people. All that I have purchased in the past has just been labeled as Diatomaceous Earth with no use specified. It has worked GREAT for pest control of all kinds. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Bill Keen wrote: Terry, Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. No, DE contains crystalline silica. If it didn't then it would not work, it is the source of the sharp crystals that kill the
Re: CSRe: Diatomaceous earth - safety and cost
Judith, I just went to the links posted here to get the price. Mine was always purchased at the feed store for about $10/8 pounds. However I have never seen it marked as Food Grade and so I don't worry about that issue. I'm sure that if they had to get it certified as Food Grade the price is considerably more just as it is with hydorgen peroxide Food Grade. Bill Keen jmcge...@att.net wrote: I've used DE for years, and strongly urge folks to get food-grade DE if they plan to use it for themselves or their animals. Besides heat, the pool stuff is sometimes treated with chemicals that can be toxic. These would not be visible! While some pool stuff may be safe, why take the chance of poisoning yourself? You can get food-grade DE pretty cheap if you buy it at organic nurseries. We get it for about $8 for a 20-lb bag, buying directly from a large supplier in multi-bag quantities. You should be able to find it for under $20 per bag at your local nursery. And 20 lbs of DE goes a long way :) Bill, if DE is mixed with grain, the law requires that it must be food grade. And I am completely confused about where you got the price of $1.50/oz. I get food-grade DE at about 2 cents/oz. Judith
Re: CSsilver plating on non-silver cathodes was Re: CStap water CS
If most of the silver is going into plating the cathode isn't that wasting a lot? Each of these units would probably benefit from having a CLD installed in one leg. Then there should be insufficient current to create the plating and so save the silver for CS'ing. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: sol wrote: But if the cathode is rapidly plated silver, isn't this really not a concern? Or maybe run a couple batches to get the cathode well plated, and use the first CS batches for cleaning, or watering plants or the like?
Re: CSsilver plating on non-silver cathodes was Re: CStap water CS
If most of the silver is going into plating the cathode isn't that wasting a lot? Each of these units would probably benefit from having a CLD installed in one leg. Then there should be insufficient current to create the plating and so save the silver for CS'ing. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: sol wrote: But if the cathode is rapidly plated silver, isn't this really not a concern? Or maybe run a couple batches to get the cathode well plated, and use the first CS batches for cleaning, or watering plants or the like?
Re: CSsilver plating on non-silver cathodes was Re: CStap water CS
If most of the silver is going into plating the cathode isn't that wasting a lot? Each of these units would probably benefit from having a CLD installed in one leg. Then there should be insufficient current to create the plating and so save the silver for CS'ing. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: sol wrote: But if the cathode is rapidly plated silver, isn't this really not a concern? Or maybe run a couple batches to get the cathode well plated, and use the first CS batches for cleaning, or watering plants or the like?
Re: CSsilver plating on non-silver cathodes was Re: CStap water CS
If most of the silver is going into plating the cathode isn't that wasting a lot? Each of these units would probably benefit from having a CLD installed in one leg. Then there should be insufficient current to create the plating and so save the silver for CS'ing. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: sol wrote: But if the cathode is rapidly plated silver, isn't this really not a concern? Or maybe run a couple batches to get the cathode well plated, and use the first CS batches for cleaning, or watering plants or the like?
Re: CSsilver plating on non-silver cathodes was Re: CStap water CS
If most of the silver is going into plating the cathode isn't that wasting a lot? Each of these units would probably benefit from having a CLD installed in one leg. Then there should be insufficient current to create the plating and so save the silver for CS'ing. Bill Keen Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: sol wrote: But if the cathode is rapidly plated silver, isn't this really not a concern? Or maybe run a couple batches to get the cathode well plated, and use the first CS batches for cleaning, or watering plants or the like?
Re: CSre: diatomaceous earth
Judith, Recheck my posts where I answered this. I got that price after following the links given on this forum for what is selling on the internet as Food Grade. It is NOT the price that I have been paying at the feed store. Bill Keen jmcge...@att.net wrote: Bill, Mine was always purchased at the feed store for about $10/8 pounds. However I have never seen it marked as Food Grade and so I don't worry about that issue. It may actually be food grade and you've simply never noticed the label. The feed stores and nurseries don't put big signs out -- there's just a small label on the bag that says food codex grade I'm sure that if they had to get it certified as Food Grade the price is considerably more just as it is with hydorgen peroxide Food Grade. That's a pretty big assumption on your part, especially since I just told you that I get food-grade DE for $8 for a 20 lb bag. You have absolutely no basis for throwing around the kind of numbers you did in a previous post (where you said $1.50 per oz) I appreciate your perspective, but perhaps you could try to reconsider the assumptions you've been defending so hard over the last couple of days on this list Judith
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Read what the company puts in it to make it Perma-Guard and make up your own mind. It is NOT Food Grade! I found NO REFERENCE to food grade in their website write-up. Bill Keen grace1...@aol.com wrote: The Perma-Guard was sold to me to be used to mix with wheat for storage. The information that came with it said that the owner of the company had it tested for minerals, and gave the the mineral content; it also said he takes it every day as a mineral supplement. Are you saying that Perma-Guard is not safe for for internal consumption? Jill
Re: CSre: diatomaceous earth
Carol Ann, You haven't read this site either: http://www.h2o2-4u.com/grades.html Bill Keen Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote: The classifications are for a reason. There is a considerable difference between OTC H20 which is not recommended for ingestion, only topical, due to chemical additatives used as stabalizers and Food Grade which is used, diluted of course, for internal use such as IV administrations.
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Thanks TJ, They have a different explanation for how it kills the insects. They claim that it sucks the moisture out and they dry up. Nitron doesn't give you a 'heads-up' on the Shipping costs before you pay. Bill Keen T J Garland noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: Go to www.nitron.com .Pay $40 for a 50 lb. bag. Very safe to ingest. TJ - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour To: Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Re: CSWhere to bye a machine I can trust?
Mike D. Laura, Here are two very good machines according to the members of this list: Colloid Master http://www.wishgranted.com/ec_store/item52.htm Silver Puppy http://www.silvermedicine.org/silverpuppy-generators.html The Colloid Master does not need a stirrer as the method used generates a stirring action in the CS naturally. Both are totally automatic and reasonably priced. Bill Keen M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Hi to all! I am new and need some advice. Who I can trust to purchase a machine from and which one? Also, is it just distilled water and the silver (Bar?) nothing else added? I have been confused about different opinions I've read. Sorry if I sound like an Idiot this is all new to me. Thanks for any help you can give. Lola
Re: CStap water CS
And you call this colloidal SILVER? Just what is brass made of? NOUN: A yellowish alloy of copper and zinc, sometimes including small amounts of other metals, but usually 67 percent copper and 33 percent zinc. Now you are taking a mixture of silver, copper and zinc. NOT something that I would want to put into my body. Why didn't you just use 2 silver electrodes? THEN you would have CS that is safe to use. Bill Keen Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: Greetings Jill, I enjoyed your post, because a group of my friends are going to take a cruise in the Caribbean, there has been a lot of illness associated with these cruises. So they might need a portable generator to take care of any problems. I made generator using one 9 volt battery with one 4 3/4, #12 silver anode and one 4 3/4, 3/32 brass cathode rod. I used the connector that I removed from an old 9 v battery, and soldered the electrodes in the holes. That makes 1/2 spacing of the electrodes. With 13 ounces of Kansas City water in a table glass and stirring for 2 minutes the silver content measured 12. PPM and the current averaged about 36mA. (actual measure). The water took on a slight milky color due to the formation of silver chloride. It had no unusual taste. Now, I would like to know how much time you! used the 3- 9's, and what electrode length, spacing, and amount of water? Ole Bob
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Pat, CS will not cleanse you of anything larger than germs. I hate to be the one to break it to you but you are covered with parasites. Ask your 'doctor'. What you are referring to are worms and they come in all sizes and shapes and reside everywhere in your body. There are many good herbal 'cleanses' available. Just Google it to find them. The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). For pets: sprinkle a little on their food (wet is best). For people: The only warning is to keep it out of eyes - it CAN cause minor scratches to the lens so flush immediately but don't be too concerned. It is a dry white powder and can be taken however you want. Oderless, tasteless and will go into suspension but will not dissolve. Absolutely NO side affects. (I also get really bothered with the 'little thingies hanging out'!) Best Wishes, Bill Keen Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! Pat - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Pat, Pat, Pat, - - - Doctors and pharmas don't make money off of well folks! You'll have to look at the herbalists and naturopaths to find the truth. Bill Keen Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Also, wouldn't a colonoscopy reveal parasites? I had one 3 years ago that was fine, but they did find a harmless cyst in the liver. I couldn't find anything about parasites on Medscape except about Mexican immigrants and Africans. If they're so prevalent, surely gastroenterologists would be concerned.
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Terry, Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. Just where did you get the info that you are supporting? Have you done ANY research for yourself or have you just listened to the nonsense some self-proclaimed 'experts' have given you? I have never found 'Food Grade' and therefore never used it. A natural substance, ground up and bagged, had no serious contaminants. You appear to be a 'sheeple' who believes that the Feds have all the answers to your problems. That is what food grade' really is - a federal scam. I have never paid the exhorbitant sums they ask for the pool filter DE but I have checked the bags/boxes and they are the same as the feed store variety. Those that have used the pool filter source have reported that there were no clumps or anything else different from what I showed them in my bag. Bill Keen Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: The easiest and cheapest for people and pets to get rid of intestinal worms is DE (diatomaceous earth) available at the local feed store or pool supply (much higher priced there). This is quite important: You should only use FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth, not the stuff used in pools. The packaging must say FOOD GRADE. The pool stuff has been heated too much in processing, and it has melted the crystals into chunks that should not be ingested. Nurseries carry it, and sometimes feed stores.
Re: CStap water CS
So, Dan, You support the hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? Bill Keen Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: Perhaps Ole Bob will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality colloidal silver that we expect. Dan
Re: CStap water CS
So, Dan, You support the hole flow' theory of current flow as opposed to the electron flow in which the negative pole releases the electrons for current flow? Does the positive charge 'suck' the molecules off of the positive element or does the negatively charged current 'knock' them off of the positive electrode? I'm really interested in finding out just how this works. Is there a knowledgable individual out there who really knows? Bill Keen Dan Nave na...@comcast.net wrote: Perhaps Ole Bob will answer this but in the meantime I'll chime in with what I've learned here... The metals will come off the positive electrode (anode) which, in this case, is the silver one. The brass is the negative electrode so it is not going to be releasing metal ions or particles into the water. With this DC system we should get the good quality colloidal silver that we expect. Dan
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Sol, Apparently, with exo-skeleton insects it cuts the cartilage which prevents movement and they starve to death. I'm not sure how it would affect earthworms. I guess if they had worms it would cleanse them too. Ha Ha. I have never found 'grading' on any DE. Bill Keen sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used internally for humans or animals. I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill earthworms and bees as well as slugs. sol Bill Keen wrote:
Re: CSDiatomaceous earth
Mr. Devour, You made this statement: You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an industry-wide safety standard. At no time have I made this claim. I have not observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes. What I stated was that I had checked the packaging and found no differences between that sold in the feed stores as plain DE and that sold for 3 to 10 times the price sold packaged and sold as Pool Filter medium. That is what I plainly stated. You then claim that it is an industry-wide safety standard AFTER you had previously written Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with heat which NEVER mentions ANY industry standards just more rumors. As with most of the simple remedies the word may is acted upon as GOSPEL TRUTH by those who do not know any better. It would certainly seem appropriate to ban me from this list as I will continue to attempt to educate those who do not know how to check for themselves. Since I don't lie, most people do not realize that what I say is literally the truth without prevarication. As the owner, you have chosen to lie about what I have said so as to prejudice the group against my information. This is your choice and since it is your 'private property' to do with as you like, feel free. I was learning some here, as with all the groups that I monitor, but it isn't worth the hassle when this happens. Good bye and Best Wishes, Bill Keen M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Bill Keen, Everywhere I have seen diatomaceous earth's use for animal or human consumption discussed, we are strongly warned to avoid the swimming pool filter type because it may be processed with heat that significantly alters its chemical and physical properties, making it vastly more dangerous if accidentally inhaled. You claim to have observed material with similar packaging and gross physical characteristics being sold for both purposes, and are urging our members on the basis of that casual impression to ignore an industry-wide safety standard. Lacking microscopic and chemical analysis that proves that swimming pool filter grade diatomaceous earth is IN EVERY CASE indistinguishable from food grade in terms of percentage of free silica content and freedom from other contaminants, I believe it would be prudent for our members to refrain from using swimming pool grade DE. If you do discover such information and wish to share it with us, please do so, as we would be interested. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner Bill Keen wrote: Terry, Check your facts. There are no crystals in DE. It is a naturally occurring calceous product of organic origin and is not processed. Just where did you get the info that you are supporting? Have you done ANY research for yourself or have you just listened to the nonsense some self-proclaimed 'experts' have given you? I have never found 'Food Grade' and therefore never used it. A natural substance, ground up and bagged, had no serious contaminants. You appear to be a 'sheeple' who believes that the Feds have all the answers to your problems. That is what food grade' really is - a federal scam. I have never paid the exhorbitant sums they ask for the pool filter DE but I have checked the bags/boxes and they are the same as the feed store variety. Those that have used the pool filter source have reported that there were no clumps or anything else different from what I showed them in my bag. Bill Keen [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
Shelli, That is what I have used exclusively for many years now. I do not use it often in my food and never more than a tablespoon at a time mixed in well. I use it for roaches and around the house for any/all insects. It is the easiest and best flea killer that I have found. 20 lbs of DE would be in a sack the size of 50lbs of corn or horse feed. My 8 lb sacks are the size of 20lbs of anything else. This and boric acid should eliminate all insects in the house. Place the boric acid around the baseboards and in the cabinets to kill roaches. It is supposedly the prime ingredient in the Roach Hotels. Bill Keen Shelli me...@insightbb.com wrote: So the feedstore variety should be ok for human consumption, shouldn't it? Shelli - Original Message - From: sol To: Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: CSParasite Cleanse I have read several places that pool grade DE should never be used internally for humans or animals. I use pure freshwater DE myself. No additive chemicals, not heat treated. Forget where I got it but it was inexpensive. I got 20 lbs so I could use some in the garden, but was then told it will kill earthworms and bees as well as slugs. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSEIS + Oxylene for COPD
Pete, It is a patented OTC product that is strictly regulated by the FDA. That is all that I know about that, However, check out this: H202 works wonders on a multitude of health problems. It does so by increasing tissue oxygen levels. It's obvious that our oxygen needs are not being met. Several of the most common ailments now affecting our population are directly related to oxygen starvation. Asthma, emphysema, and lung disease are on the rise, especially in the polluted metropolitan areas. Cases of constipation, diarrhea, intestinal parasites and bowel cancer are all on the upswing. I found this at: http://www.frequencyrising.com/hydrogen_peroxide.htm and their homepage has much more that you might want to check out. There is also: http://www.glycoresource.com Best Wishes, Bill Keen panamp...@aol.com wrote: As many on the list know, I have an advanced case of Emphysema and am trying various means to slow the decomposition of my lungs. I use a Omron nebulizer in which I add my 12PPM EIS than inhale the mist for about 10 mins. AM/PM. I came across this other product at Walgreens called Oxylene which indicates that it is a Nitric Oxide (NO) enhancer. It is suppose to improve oxygen delivery to the cells, promote max. circulation and vascular blood flow, and also increase physical sta- mina and endurance. Does anyone on the list have any knowledge of this product? Is NO a safe substance? One of the main ingredients is Arginine alpha Ketoglu tarate(akg). Thank you, Pete PS between nose cancer and Emphysema I am having a wonderful Christmas!G
CSumeboshi plum
A quick search found this source: http://www.qualitynaturalfoods.com/shopnew/umeboshi.html I'll have to see how these taste. Bill
CSRe: CS for varicose veins
Ken, I do not have any data on CS for varicose veins, but it would seem that since CS kills germs, etc. it is not going to remove placque from either veins or arteries. The removal of cholesterol is accomplished by chelation. Chelation is the use of vitamins A, C and E, either orally or by IV with the specific intent of removing the fatty build-up that results from the ingestion of artificial (hydrogenated ) fats and manufactured foods. Varicose veins have nothing to do with the arteries as those are located deep within the muscle tissue and supply blood while the veins return the depleted blood to the heart. There are many anti-oxident formulas available. [ I can't imagine why they are called Anti oxident when they are in fact anti-fat.] Bill Keen
CSRE: CS 30-35ppm CS
How do they work.
They use High Voltage (15,000 volts {15Kv}) of AC. One silver electrode is
placed into the water. My unit has High Voltage cable with an alligator clip
on the end. I just clip a Trader's Round on and bend it so that the coin is
mostly under water. Do NOT let the steel alligator clip get into the water.
The water will tend to 'climb' up while the unit is running.
The other lead had a silver wire clipped on and it is suspended about 1/4 inch
above the surface. This limits the current to produce smaller particles.
I use a 1/2 gallon Pyrex bowl to hold the DW for 'cooking'.
How long does it take to make 300 ppm?
At 15Kv the unit will produce 15ppm per pint per hour. The 300 ppm cooked for
about 20 hours and is probably much stronger as the temperature of the DW
continuously goes up and so does the current.
Where can I buy one at?
The man that made these no longer does so. However, the power supply is a
commercial Neon Lamp power supply which should be available worldwide.
In the last week (?) there was a post for making a CS Gen out of a microwave
oven. THis is intriguing! I am planning on trying it. Not only does it
salvage a microwave in which the bad part is usually the magnetron (removed to
use for CS) it also provides a measure of safety in that it only works with the
oven door closed. Neat.
The source of the Neon supply should have the high voltage wiring you will need.
CSGod's Creation?
Wow! In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable had been struck by lightning! Genesis tells us that everything was made for man. Killing and eating flesh was the result of Adam's sin and began after they were expelled from the Garden of Eden. The fruits and grains were always meant for man to consume. As for forgiveness, He is faithful and just to forgive AFTER you have successfully repented. Until you have changed your thinking to stop sinning He CAN'T forgive the ongoing sins. Sin is in the thought, not the deed. Deeds are the result of thoughts. Bill Keen
CSteeth, re silver crown
Well Ruth, With a mouthful of silver crowns you shouldn't need CS one would think. The mercury amalgam fillings are so toxic that most dentists do not use them anymore and everyone that I know that has had theirs removed has had a marked improvement in their overall health and usually a definite memory gain. On the other hand, pulling all of them has very few benefits. Yes, you get to take them out to brush without stretching your mouth all out-of-whack. But, the gums will stay sore for quite some time, in most cases, until the 'contact points' get callused. And then there is the hassle of having to do without while they are being repaired/replaced. And then there is the 'goop' that holds them in place. Have you ever tried it? I am in favor of keeping whatever you can with either gold or silver crowns to replace amalgam fillings. Bill Keen
CSPork as food?
When you really investigate the animals that the Bible prohibits from the diet, you will find that the only ones banned are the 'garbage processors' that eat the filth and process it. All fish without scales and fins are sharks and catfish. These are carrion eaters. Birds - song birds are allowed but the carrion eaters aren't, eagles, vultures, all birds of prey. Four-legged beasties - only the cud-chewing split hoofed are eating the proper foods (before man patented their food) for our digestion. Crustaceans Shellfish - all eat the refuse produced by men and animals and are therefore dangerous in the diet. Only the scaly/finned fish are clean enough to eat raw without fear. Apparently their metabolisms do not ingest anything harmful to man. You are right! JHVH knew that they wouldn't have the science to prove His Law so He just TOLD them NO! We, being so much better educated, should be able to realize the necessity for His Laws and comply voluntarily.Or - - - else! Bill Keen
CSSquare or Round Wire
It probably doesn't make any difference except maybe for the cost. Square wire might cost more. As to charging for the CS, YES, it is fair to charge a price that will repay you to allow you to make more. If you give it away to the point that you cannot make more, everyone loses! I have been fortunate in that I was able to give away many bottles of CS. Now, I cannot do so. The prices that the stores charge may be honest, but, it is a lot more than it costs me to make CS. Bill Keen
CS30-35ppm CS
Well, I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for with So I am interested in how you managed to get 30-35 ppm, despite the large floating particles. I have made ~300ppm which was absolutely clear. This was with my HVAC CS Generator. I made this strength to provide a concentrated solution to be diluted for use to about 15ppm. However, my daughter took some with an eyedropper and squirted it down her throat. She said that it tasted horrible. Bill Keen
