CS>EFT

[David S Osborne]

pLEASE, could someone help me out!!

It is in reference to an "article" in the Mercola newzltr within the past
couple days. The Article is entitled: "WORLDS BEST STRESS BUSTER"

I need to get back to this article but have lost it in my computer and I
cannot find reference to it on Mercola.com.

PLEASE, can someone email the link to this article!!?

thanks in advance,   davido   ide...@juno.com


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Re: CS>Energy medicine

[David S Osborne]

hey Terry I woould like a copy of the 'how to' file you mention.
davido  ide...@juno.com


On Fri, 27 May 2005 13:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Terry Chamberlin
 writes:
> Jason said,
> "How / where would you recommend that I look into
> energy medicines? Not too familiar there."
> 
> Go to:
> 
> www.emofree.com
> 
> I can also email you a file that shows you how to do
> what is on this webpage - called Emotional Freedom
> Technique. It is an animated tutorial, very good.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
> 
> 
> __ 
> 
> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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Re: CS>Making Creams and Gels

[David S Osborne]

mee toodavido


On Tue, 24 May 2005 09:34:43 -0600 G & K Murray 
writes:
> Hi Sandee,
> 
> You mentioned in an email to Jr. that you made some creams and gels. 
>  
> The rest on the list assumed you meant you had a website.  If you 
> do, 
> could you point me to it?  Otherwise could you give a little write 
> up an 
> how one would go about making the creams and gels.  Recipies?  This 
> all 
> sounds interesting and I would not know where to start for 
> ingredients.
> 
> Thank you,
> G Murray
> 
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CS>re: Miracle Neutralizer

[David S Osborne]

the Miracle stuff has been mentioned here before, so..

On our local TV this morning, there was alarm sounded during the health
segment to the use of "Masters Miracle Neutralizer"  its use in
the eyes.  The report was from the FDA [sounded typical] that this
product, if used in the eyes, could result in blindness.

http://origin.www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/mastersmiracle05_05.html

The above link says the TMM company has issued a recall on certain of the
products and that they may have been contaminated with certain bacteria,
which could lead to blindness if used in the eyes.

I do not have any idea of the possible relationship with TMM products and
the Miracle II products.

any comments??  davido


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Re: CS>microdyn mexico search on dogpile does yeild a bunch

[David S Osborne]

A, yes Bill   I do believe you can tell us more.
Is it with 3-9's before being colored??
:-)  davido


On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:12:33 -0500 William Missett
 writes:
> It is colored with food coloring so it will look like iodine, the 
> former 
> disinfectant of choice for the poor, who are no doubt fooled into 
> thinking 
> that Microdyn is also iodine, which it is not.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "sol" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>microdyn mexico search on dogpile does yeild a 
> bunch
> 
> 
> > Other than the statement in that article that microdyn is a 
> colloid with a 
> > 2 nm particle size, I still can't find out what it is/how made, 
> none of 
> > the other links posted said anything.  Is it a trade secret or 
> something? 
> > Just curious to know if it is MSP or what. Isn't it very dark in 
> color?
> > sol
> >
> > Stuff wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> More on Microdyn...
> >>
> >> http://www.silverinstitute.org/news/5b01.html
> >>
> >> stuff
> >>
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CS>do ya mean these Mike??

[David S Osborne]

http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html


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CS>microdyn mexico search on dogpile does yeild a bunch

[David S Osborne]

http://www.edc-cu.org/pdf/report1-final.pdf


http://www.zihuatanejo.net/wwwboard/archives2/787.html
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Posted by Robert on December 27, 2000 at 14:52:38: 
In Reply to: Microdyn posted by Jerry on December 27, 2000 at 09:29:50: 
I did a quick search at dogpile and came up with all kinds of hits.
search>Microdyn Mexico. 
It's a disinfectant used in cleaning vegetables or anything else where a
bleach solution would be the alternative.  
 
 
http://www.csfacts.com/pages/testimonies.html

Re: CS>Warts, and Ricinus + bio-carbonate

[David S Osborne]

"bio-carbonate" is a good spelling of a good word, it just does not
appear anywhere in the cayce readings.

by the by...  the ECreadings are available, free, online at:

http://www.are-cayce.org/ecreadings/

regards,  davido


On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:11:33 -0400 "Albert Peirce" 
writes:
> An unfortunate mis-spelling, nothing more.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bruce Anderson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Warts, and Ricinus + bio-carbonate
> 
> 
> > What is bio-carbonate?
> > Bruce
> >
> > Faith Saint Francis wrote:
> >
> >> Lori metap...@senet.com.au Wrote:
> >> Which leads me to my next ailment. Plantars warts. I had one when 
> I was 
> >> in
> >> the Navy 20 years ago. I dug it out and it went away, only to 
> reappear 
> >> and
> >> bring friends.
> >>
> >> For Warts, do the following:
> >> Take equal parts (small quantities) of Castor Oil (now it’s 
> called 
> >> Ricinus oil) and bio-carbonate.
> >> Rub the two togerther between the fingers, until they stiffen up, 
> and 
> >> look a bit like white chewing gum.
> >> This you put on the wart, and put a plaster on it to keep it in 
> place.
> >> It may give a burning sensation.
> >> Leave for some three days, then remove.
> >> See what happens.
> >>
> >> This was also taken from the Edgar Cayce Remedies.
> >>
> >> Good Luck
> >> Faith St. Francis
> >>
> >> _
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Re: CS>Warts, bicarbonate and sodium bicarbonate

[David S Osborne]

...there ya go. That's better. There are different bio-carbonates,
but besides that- the readings never mentioned "bio-carbonates". I would
encourage anyone quoting the ECreadings to go direct and exactly so.
[they were off target enough by themselves]
Regards, davido  [twas my job in the ECF for a bit of time to hold
quoter's feet to the fire.]

here tis, wfw from ll79 text:
14. (Q) How can [1179] get rid of her warts? 
(A) Apply a paste of baking soda with Castor Oil. Mix together and apply
of evenings. Just the proportions so it makes almost a GUM; not as dough
but more as gum, see? A pinch between the fingers with three to four
drops in the palm of the hand, and this worked together and then placed
on - bound on. It may make for irritation after the second or third
application, but leave it off for one evening and then apply the next -
and it will be disappearing! [See 1179-4 Reports.]




On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:39:26 -0400 "Faith Saint Francis"
 writes:
> 
> David S Osbornewrote:
> >>"bio-carbonate" was not mentioned in any of the Cayce readings. 
> davido<<
> 
> 
> Here is the exact quotation # 1179 – 3 from “An Edgar Cayce Home 
> medicine 
> Guide” by the A.R.E. Press:
> …castor oil has a great variety of external uses. A mixture of 
> castor oil 
> and baking soda was advised for application on callouses on the 
> feet, moles, 
> ingrown toenails and warts:
> 
> Apply a paste of baking soda with castor oil. Mix together and apply 
> of 
> evenings. Just the proportions so it makes almost a gum; not dough 
> but more 
> 

Re: CS>Re: silver-digest: Uncontrolable granddaughter

[David S Osborne]

Sorry for your disfunctional famli, Helen but I dont think it is 
at all fair to burden this list with it. The whole family is in need
of professional help and it is just a most unfair psych-game to 
burden us with it.   just my feeling  davido


On Sat, 7 May 2005 12:57:19 -0500 "Helen Woodward"
 writes:
> Hi,
> I have been on this list forever and make colloidal silver and this 
> list has 
> so many wise people on it that was wondering what list that I could 
blah,  blah.etc.


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Re: CS>Warts, and Ricinus + bio-carbonate

[David S Osborne]

On Fri, 06 May 2005 20:38:07 -0400 "Faith Saint Francis"
 writes:
> Lori metap...@senet.com.au  Wrote:
> Which leads me to my next ailment.  Plantars warts.  I had one when 
> I was in
> the Navy 20 years ago.  I dug it out and it went away, only to 
> reappear and
> bring friends.
> 
> For Warts, do the following:
> Take equal parts (small quantities) of Castor Oil (now it’s called 
> Ricinus 
> oil) and bio-carbonate.


re above:   "bio-carbonate" was not mentioned in any of the Cayce
readings.
davido


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Re: CS>uti vitamin c

[David S Osborne]

from  www.drrons.com

   Almost all of the vitamin C in supplements is made in a laboratory,
despite labeling that implies otherwise. For example, the label might
say, "ascorbic acid from sago palm." Dextrose, a form of sugar that
contains no vitamin C at all, is extracted from sago palm and used as the
base molecular material for a complex laboratory process that synthesizes
vitamin C. Or the label might say "vitamin C derived from the finest
natural sources." True, but the vitamin C was synthesized. It might also
say "with rose hips and acerola," which are then used as the base
material for the tablet or capsule. But a tablet of rose hips or acerola
can contain only about forty milligrams of truly natural vitamin C; the
rest is synthesized.  Etc,   etc.

o my,  it just goes on and on.  I say  "Whatere works fer
you!  an if yer happy with the price. What price health??  davido


On Thu, 5 May 2005 09:30:40 -0400 "Louise" 
writes:
>  Quest brand is made with Sago palm and I have been taking it for 30 
> years
> with great success.  I call it my pep pill :o)))
> 
> Louise
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: starshar [mailto:stars...@comcast.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:22 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>uti
> 
> From: 
> 
>   I am working on vitamin C, but have considerable trouble
> > finding one I am not allergic to, and does not cause unpleasant 
> > reaction due to the acidity.  One person on the list suggested 
> taking 
> > 30,000 units of C to knock out a UTI in one day.  I am still 
> buying 
> > different types of C and taking them to be checked by muscle 
> testing 
> > before I can safely take them.  Maybe some people can just pop 
> 10,000 
> > units of C in their mouth with no problem, but I'm not one of 
> them.
> 
> Hi Jill,
> 
> Have you checked Allergyresearchgroup.com? they make a C from sago 
> palm for
> people with allergies. All other Cs apparently come from corn.
> 
> Sharon 
> 
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Re: CS>esterC

[David S Osborne]

Rev Puritans Pride  [ www.puritan.com ] Product # 2263  [500 mg -250caps]
all assembled ready to swill (as I do when I feel the need).. as I
recall it ='s under $13 per bottle.
I have no idea how much Larry King may be getting per my capsule, but I
realli dont care. When I need to restock, a few clicks of the mouse
and very reasonbli later they appear at my doorstep.  ..& they work
wonderfully for my needs with NO tummy upset whatsover.   Davido



On Wed, 4 May 2005 22:06:10 -0400 "Louise" 
writes:
Actually it is a patented type of Calcium ascorbate and you can buy it
with out the patented ester C label.

Louise




From: FRANK CUNS-RIAL [mailto:f...@atlanticbb.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>esterC


Ester C is a brand of ascorbate. If you want to pay Larry King
promotional fees go ahead otherwise buy generic sodium ascorbate. There
is magnesium ascorbate but is more difficult to get.

Re: CS>Re[2]: CS>UTIs and D-Mannose re:VITA. C

[David S Osborne]

PLEASE TRY  ESTER-C IF YOU HURRY YOU CAN GET IN
ON PURITANS PRIDE  3 FOR 1 SALE.   Their prod #  2263

When I need em, I take em by the handful=  NO PROBLEM
davido

CS>re: diesel nanoparticles in the brain

[David S Osborne]

Has anyone got any further information than in the Nature article
about diesel nanoparticles in the brain??

davido



http://www.nature.com/nsu/040105/040105-9.html 
January 09, 2004

Re: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection

[David S Osborne]

or you could just do a google on the title and buy it  only$50

davido


On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:08:04 -0400 "lkfields" 
writes:
> Sol, I don't have the book, I was commenting on the original post.  I 
> think
> Grace? has it?? 
> 
> Lori
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:45 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS & bladder infection
> 
> You didn't say where I can get a copy? Or if there is a bibliography 
> giving
> sources?
> TIA,
> sol
> 
> Lori Fields wrote:
> 
> >The book may have been misleading...it could have meant the UTI 
> itself 
> >is harder to treat due to the difficulty of getting the cs to the 
> location.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
> >
> >I see you give the book title, but is there any bibliography in 
> this 
> >book that gives any place to check these statements? I can't find 
> this 
> >book at Borders.com.
> >  
> >
> >>"The Colloidal Silver Manual: Introducing the Powerful Natural 
> >>Antibiotic They Want to Take Away From You".  On page 35 of this 
> >>manual there is an article on successful uses for colloidal silver 
> 
> >>(Pre-1938).  T
> >>
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: CS>CS effectiveness

[David S Osborne]

...so Terry,   what do you think about the use of cs as the
preservative in vaccinations, particularly those for children [shots]
where there is the great concern for the mercury preservative maybe
causing autisim??
davido


On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 05:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Terry Chamberlin
 writes:
> "Everywhere you can hear, that the CS with higher
> concentration has much more efficacy."
> 
> No, actually, I have seen no evidence that higher ppm
> equals more effectiveness.
> 
> In 1989, when the UCLA School of Medicine tested CS
> against a range of viruses, they used 2-1/2 ppm and 5
> ppm. They reported that 2-1/2 ppm CS kept the bacteria
> from reproducing and 5 ppm killed them outright (in 5
> minutes). In 1999, when Brigham Young University
> tested CS against 16 different bacteria, they used the
> same strengths, with the same results.
> 
> All the studies done in the last century that
> demonstrate the effectiveness of CS were done with
> 2-10 ppm CS.
> 
> 10 ppm appears to be slightly more effective than 5
> ppm, but greater strengths than that have not been
> demonstrated to be more effective. Last year, American
> Biotech reported success using 20 ppm CS against
> malaria, tuberculosis and anthrax, but I bet they
> would have had the same success with 10 ppm, or even 5
> ppm.
> 
> That is why folks ingesting CS made with three 9-volt
> batteries (which usually makes 5-10 ppm) have as good
> results as those with 10,000 volt, high ppm CS. Dead
> is dead. You cannot kill an ant better with a sledge
> hammer than with a tiny hammer.
> 
> 10 ppm or 20 ppm or 500 ppm, the results appear to be
> similar. I am not referring to the sales pitch of
> those who sell "super" CS, but scientific studies such
> as those I have just mentioned.
> 
> With the addition of H2O2, according to the reports
> from those folks who are experiencing success against
> MS, we seem to have a way to increase the
> effectiveness of CS.
> 
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CS>cs:Rosemary

[David S Osborne]

and furthermore; if cs can be adapted to replace Thimerisol [sp?]
in vaccines, maybe babies would have a choice:
be a little gray but free of autism.
 
 
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:24:56 +0200 "Tony Moody"  writes:
> Hi Marshall,
> What would have caused Rosemary's doctors to dose her so heavily 
> with silver compounds? They must have known what they were 
> doing. 
>   etc.


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CS>cs:EFT

[David S Osborne]

free do-it-yerseff info at Mercola re. EFT:

EFT Manual: The Basic Steps to Your Emotional Freedom


www.mercola.com/forms/eftcourse.htm  

and info at:

www.emofree.com 

CS>re: IBS

[David S Osborne]

Mercola's take on IBS

http://www.mercola.com/2005/apr/23/inflammatory_bowl.htm

someday he'll become enlightened to CS also.
davido


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Re: CS>please confirm

[David S Osborne]

Be careful of skin cancers, Brickey!~!  davido



On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 22:39:32 EDT brick...@aol.com writes:
In a message dated 4/19/2005 9:03:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
faithstfran...@hotmail.com writes:
Due to my compu acting a bit strange at the end, I would like to know if
you 
all received
I received it and downloaded great. Back in the 1980s when using an
infra-red laser I would find spots that caused some pain. DR Gordon
called them hurt spots and said to stay on them long enough for the pain
to be reduced. Next day the hurt spot would still be there only with less
pain. Removing hurt spots sometimes took several weeks. One of the uses
of that laser was to activate pressure points.
Brickey

Re: CS>MY IBS IS BACK AFTER FOUR YEARS....HELP!!!!

[David S Osborne]

Hi Debbie when was the last time you had a colonoscopy??   davido

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Deborah Gerard
 writes:
Hi everyone,
I am totally stumpedabout four years ago I had an awful bout with IBS
and after a strict diet, Nystatin, Zyfulcan...and teeth redone it went
awaywell now it is back and my biggest problem is being kept awake at
night with which feels like big stuck gas bubblesI am down to eating
almost nothing but rice milk, rice cereal and carrots and peas...I take
enzymes I am at a total lose as to what the heck is going on...any ideas
or input would so much be appreciated...I am taking the cs, holding it in
my mouth for ten minutes and swallowing...thanks in advance Debbie

CS>cs:vitaminC per LEF

[David S Osborne]

http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=2073&Section=VITAMINS&sou
rce=DHB100&key=Body+ContinueReading

...interesting, about vitamin C
>From LEF

davido


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Re: CS>doctors, sigh

[David S Osborne]

This is basically correct, Marshalee, in fact they cant get beyond the
dec.col. at all now; but the entire colon can be quite nicely viewed-- I
have had them with and without sedation [same with endoscopic] and there
is some discomfort from the air pressure inserted to shape the colon for
a better view and things can get a little crowed in there if they turn
the scope around for a look in the other direction such as to look at the
anus from inside. There may be discomfort [moderate pain] if they snip of
suspicious tissue for analysis. They can even remove polyps with the
thing; I would imagine this would always would be under sedation. 
Afterwards, there can be quite a bit of passing of the air I mentioned
and some are embarrassed [yes, em-bare-assed]. Not everyone is thrilled
to have someone poking them around there. but what the heck your
life might be worth saving. imagine how your loved ones would
feel. how Katie feels  about her husband not having had this
relatively simple testing.
An interesting perspective about it all is, as some maintain,
that it ALL occurs OUTSIDE the body [except for the IV, if used]. From
the nose straight thru to the anus, is considered by some to all be
outside the body, hence, about as non invasive as you can get.
...as I said before:  
if you have no familial colon prob, are under 50, no symptoms of colon
prob. NO one they are responsible for/to, and no family that gives a damn
about em. if you don't care. you're silly.
davido

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:03:20 -0600 Marshalee 
writes:
> I watched Katie Couric get one on TV a while back. They can`t getfar 
> beyond the Descending Colon.
> Marshalee

Re: CS>doctors, sigh

[David S Osborne]

if a male has no familial colon prob, is under 50, no symptoms of colon
prob. and no family that gives a damn about em-- I would say they have
the
right to drive the docs nuts.  davido



On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:58:21 -0600 sol  writes:
> Having some family history of colon cancer, it drives doctors nuts 
> that 
> I refuse to have a colonoscopy, I've had two sigmoidoscopies years 
> ago, 
> and those were enough for me, I refuse any more of those either.  
> What 
> drives me nuts about doctors, and why I stay away from them as much 
> as 
> possible, is that they refuse to acknowledge that this is MY body, 
> and 
> it is MY choice, and it is NOT made out of ignorance, or fear,  but 
> from 
> educated, reasoned choice.
> sol
> 
> marmar...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >  
> > A colonoscopy WOULD HAVE saved my Dad's life, if he'd had one.  I 
> 
> > think avoiding a colonoscopy is perilous.   MA 
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: CS>ester-c

[David S Osborne]

not even the slightest!!!  and I have what I'd call a sensitive stomach.
davido


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:12:39 -0600 Marshalee 
writes:
> Does it make your stomach burn???
> Marshalee
> 
> > RE:   VITAMIN C   I would SO encourage anyone using or 
> > contemplating
> > vitamin C  to automatically think only of */ Ester-C !!! /*  I 
> have 
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Re: CS>ester-c

[David S Osborne]

from:  bbanever:

David - Ester-C is fine but a buffered C would work just as well and cost
alot less.  It too is gentle on the stomach.

Cheers.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Sally Khanna
 writes:
That is because Ester C is the calcium form (which is coolingto the body)
rather than the sodium form, which is heating.  Heating substances will
cause diarrhea and other disturbances if taken in too high quantities. 

You don't need top buy the Ester C brand.  I buy a large bottle (254
grams) of the powder from Wholesale Nutrition, for about 15.00

Sally



Davido replize:

discount buffered:  13.05

Sally's:  "about 15.00

PurPride   :   12.93

davido

Re: CS>ester-c

[David S Osborne]

RE:   VITAMIN C   I would SO encourage anyone using or
contemplating
vitamin C  to automatically think only of Ester-C !!!  I have had BIG
success
for years with BBIIGG doses/frequently of vitamin-c for that "I think I
are gettin
a cold" feeling. BUT, with the regular c, along with success at steaming
the cold, etc,
I would always get quite uncomfortable goins on in the
stomach/intestines.
Switching to Ester-C, for me, was dramatic  Not a trace of stomach
problems
and if anything, better results fighting the bug.
I use Puritan's Pride [no financial intrst.] ester-c 500mg caps/ their
prod #2263.
If I feel a bug or even think there may have been bugs flyin around on my
school
bus = head for the ester-c. 5 at a time, every couple hours or more. Why
5 at a time??
That's what seems to fall out of the bottle and be comfortable for my
mouth/throat
capacity.. Wouldnt hesitate to take 6 or more at a time, were my
mouth as big as
most people seem to think it is.  Ester-c is a bit more $, but hugely
worth it for me.





On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:15:06 -0600 Marshalee 
writes:
> Hmm, interesting!
> Any suggestions on what is a good kind of C to get? I have some 
> chewable, but it tastes yucky, hard for me to get down. And some 
> tablets 
> make my stomach burn.
> Marshalee
> 
> >Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc 

Re: CS>doctors, sigh

[David S Osborne]

a colonoscopy definitely saved my son's life a couple years ago. He's mid
40
davido


On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:39:30 -0400 alltogether...@webtv.net writes:
> Marshalee, I feel the same about the colonosocopy. I told my doc 
> about
> http://GaryNull.com s comments  that we all have cancer several 
> times in
> or lives, and he agreed, so if I develop it, then I would do the 
> least
> toxic treatment first, and so on.
>  I am finding that mega doses of ester c powder as a basis of all 
> the
> therapies has great benefit regarding joint pain. Some say many 
> diseases
> are really symptoms of scurvy (vit c deficiency) at different 
> levels.
> http://bolenreport.com 
>  I had a joint injury that lasted 2 years until I mega dosed C and 
> it
> cleared up in 2 weeks.
> 
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Re: CS>coconut water treatment & Cineraria

[David S Osborne]

Rowena, I wonder if the tincture is the same as the stuff intended for
eye use?? for
example:  Homeopathic Educational Services: Cineraria Eye Drops!
Cineraria Eye Drops! Quantity in Basket: none Code: QY-CIN Price: $17.84
Shipping Weight: 0.00 pounds. Quantity:. Cineraria is a traditional
homeopathic ...
www.homeopathic.com/Merchant2/merchant.
mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HES&Product_Code=QY-CIN - 9k - 




On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:55:51 +0800 "Rowena"  writes:
Ok, I have some cineraria tincture, which I got some years ago but didn't
use as directed because it just stung so much.  It says 1 drop in the
eyes 4-5 times a day.  I don't think I'm likely to do it that often,
cataract or no cataracts; the best I ended up doing was putting it on the
eyelid for some principal to seep through.  I suspect the practitioner
didn't realise it was so strong - maybe it was to be succussed or
something.  

Anyway, I've just brought a coconut home with me and am wondering whether
to put some cineraria tincture in the cocounut milk and get the best of
both remedies.  

Rowena
Blinking nervously in Australia

Anybody wanna hold my hand on this?
SANDEE - please, more details about your "cineraria drop" - how, what,
how often, for how long?

Did anyone get the full text of the article from the Phillipines
Ophtalmology site
http://www.pao.org.ph/main.php?fid=abstracts/vol24num1topic1?

Here is another interesting site: 
http://www.cyberdyaryo.com/features/f2002_1113_01.htm   (coconut
research)
Enig explained that monolaurin is the antiviral, antibacterial, and
antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid
coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various
pathogenic bacteria including listeria monocytogenes and heliobacter
pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia.

CS>re:eye washers??

[David S Osborne]

could be??

http://www.antiquebottletrader.com/eye_cups.htm

ain cheaop also...do a google on "eye wash cup"

also again.  I remember not too long ago that a company peddlin eye
wash packed an eye cup
[pplastic] on top of the bottle of eyewash.

davido

Re: CS>readability of websites help, was Re: CS>RE: cataracts

[David S Osborne]

copy and paste into a word pro. the color should disapere, if not, run
the copied thru
re-formatter: emailStripper, available for free from
http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm  
then paste it into wp and print.
note: for meself, if I even bother with the first step and it dont woik,
I say the hell with it. I think
it is S un cool of anyone to use that type of setup, even white
on black.
davido[emailStripper is great to know about, thanks to ck]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:49:30 -0600 sol  writes:
> Does anyone know if there is a way to change a website/page(s) that 
> are 
> just about unreadable because of dark text on dark backgrounds or 
> white 
> text on black backgrounds to plain black text on white? I  figured 
> out I 
> can enlarge the text, and that helps with some sites, but the 
> kefirpage 
> link below is one where increasing text size doesn't help me much. I 
> 
> can't read the darn thing.
> 
> I churlishly hope all the people who make these fancy-shmancy 
> webpages 
> get old and can't read their own damn sites! As they are it is a 
> triumph 
> of needing to be stylish over making a site accessible.
> TIA for any help,
> sol
> 
> ransley wrote:
> 
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/
> >
> >http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
> >
> >Daddybob
> >
> >
> >  
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CS>cs: this just in from Kim Komando

[David S Osborne]

Haven't been here [there?] yet but this looks intrsng. Probably very
conventional cut n paste docs.
davido

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Re: CS>cs:re cataracts

[David S Osborne]

herz velli interesting:
http://www.chennaionline.com/health/Homoeopathy/2004/11homoeopathy15.asp 
 davido



On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:22:46 -0400 David S Osborne 
writes:


boirion optique drops sold by many:

Cineraria Maritima 4X-1.50%; Euphrasia Officinalis 4X-1.00%; Calendula
Officnialis 4X-0.25%; Kali Muriaticum 10X-0.25%; Calcarea Fluorica
10X-0.25%; Magnesia Carbonica 10X-0.25%; Silicea 10X-0.25% 

dont know if it is recomen. for cataracts or not.
these are the suggested uses:
For temporary relief of minor eye irritation due to fatigue or airborne
irritants such as ragweed, other pollens and dust. Soothes red, dry,
itchy, burning or tired eyes. 

this is also interesting:
Homeopathic Educational Services: Cineraria Eye Drops! Cineraria Eye
Drops! Quantity in Basket: none Code: QY-CIN Price: $17.84 Shipping
Weight: 0.00 pounds. Quantity:. Cineraria is a traditional homeopathic
...
www.homeopathic.com/Merchant2/merchant.
mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HES&Product_Code=QY-CIN - 9k - Cached -
Similar pages
 
a google will show more.


davido

CS>cs:re cataracts

[David S Osborne]

boirion optique drops sold by many:

Cineraria Maritima 4X-1.50%; Euphrasia Officinalis 4X-1.00%; Calendula
Officnialis 4X-0.25%; Kali Muriaticum 10X-0.25%; Calcarea Fluorica
10X-0.25%; Magnesia Carbonica 10X-0.25%; Silicea 10X-0.25% 

dont know if it is recomen. for cataracts or not.
these are the suggested uses:
For temporary relief of minor eye irritation due to fatigue or airborne
irritants such as ragweed, other pollens and dust. Soothes red, dry,
itchy, burning or tired eyes. 

this is also interesting:
Homeopathic Educational Services: Cineraria Eye Drops! Cineraria Eye
Drops! Quantity in Basket: none Code: QY-CIN Price: $17.84 Shipping
Weight: 0.00 pounds. Quantity:. Cineraria is a traditional homeopathic
...
www.homeopathic.com/Merchant2/merchant.
mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HES&Product_Code=QY-CIN - 9k - Cached -
Similar pages

a google will show more.


davido

Re: CS>coconut water treatment

[David S Osborne]

Sandee, did you use  Cineraria Maritima   ??

davido


On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:34:30 -0300 Sandee George  writes:
> Hi There Nina do you know where to get the   "carnosine eye drop
> preparation for
> cataracts They claim it works very well."  is it anything to do 
> with
> coconut water ?
> This is what intrigued me, I am going to try it on myself, however I 
> have
> just removed
> a cataract with a homeopathic drop - so as usual they all work if 
> the
> mind wants whatever
> to work 
> Take care
> Sandee
> 
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> who failed to realize that he could not do it."
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CS>CS:INTERESTING STUFF [OLDISH]

[David S Osborne]

Several of you are aware of these I'm sure.



http://www.fda.gov/cder/otcmonographs/Silver/silver_PR_19961015.htm

http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/pdf/SS-White%20Technical%20Paper%2000
2-SafetyInformation-01-23-033.pdf

Hey. the 20th edition of THE DISPENSATORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA
[CIRCA 1918] seems to be referred to most often a THE ONE..  does
anyone have an opinion as to how it compares to the 21st edition [circa
1926]  >I am interested 'cause this is the edition I have.

also, is it so that the DOTUSA later became the "Merck" of
today??
...also again, does not the FDA base some of its thinking on the
stuff from the DOTUSA???[if said "stuff" suited their purposes perhaps.]

CS>cd

[David S Osborne]

Ode, what do ya think??  Did you read all this??   davido


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/1/prweb32492.php

Re: CS>Warning letters issued by the FDA in 2004...

[David S Osborne]

Thanks for your observations re colonics n the bottom-line, Sandee.  As
one on the path, I am always seeking info re putting one's best face
forward!!

thanks,  davido


On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:50:01 -0300 Sandee George  writes:
> One of the letters on this list really amuses me - it is the one to
> Coloma Boards - now to my 
> personal knowledge, these boards are exactly that, a board which 
> anyone
> can make in their own
> back yard, on which one can perform a home type colonic - if you 
> read the
> list, there are a few
> other names who are involved in the practice of colonic therapy - 
> does
> this not speak or shriek
> at anyone ?especially as from my personal understanding - when 
> they
> arrested Hulda Clarke
> they got a colonic therapist as well - let me say that I myself have 
> a
> colonic therapy licence
> from the New Mexico School of Natural Therapeutics and have first 
> hand
> personal knowledge
> of just how hard the "powers of be"  make it for this type of 
> therapy to
> be practiced, which is why
> I have so far, refused to open up an office anywhere !I give 
> to
> myself regularly, however !
> So in my view the bottom line is we are all here to learn and share 
> what
> we need to know for our 
> own personal healing and continued wellness, it has nothing to do 
> with
> being right, or better than
> or any other personal ego trips - as I have said many times - if I 
> never
> sell another bottle of C.S.
> I have it for myself and I have made it a point, never to be without 
> it,
> which is why I am so grateful
> to Richard Harris for selling me some while I was in the States - 
> bless
> him.
> Sincerely
> Sandee
> 
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> who failed to realize that he could not do it."
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Re: CS>lyme mom SPEAKING OF LYME!!

[David S Osborne]

Hope you'll allow some homeopathy her, Mike

I was re-reading some issues of "Homeopathy Today"
and in the Sept/94 issue  this:

An article by S.Tobin,  DMV  who talks of treating several
hundred cases of Lyme dise, ..found considerable success
using Ledum [1M potency] in dogs n cats n horses. No matter
if recent/yr.old infection, "all responded curatively. I
have not had a single case that did not improve." 

Tobin also reported success using   Borrellia burgdorferi
nosode as both a preventative and curative.

Tobin reports he does not treat humanoids but has reports from
several that have had amazing success with these homeopathics.

do Googles on these, and check at:  
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Led

davido

CS>

[David S Osborne]

BROOKS:would you comment?
Dr. Mercola's Comment re sports drinks:
Now that spring is here and temperatures are beginning to climb upward, I
suspect many of you are itching to get outside and enjoy all the benefits
the extra sun and warmth can do for you and your health. I have been
running for nearly 40 years and it is not only my primary form of
exercise but also a major part of my life. Some of you will also chose
running. 
This is a good thing.
After a good run or heavy-duty dose of weight training, you may be
inclined to reach for one of the many popular "rehydrating" sports drinks
your local gym or supermarket sells. There are many reasons why you
shouldn't, and this study brings up a good one: they can corrode your
teeth. 
This is a bad thing.
Ironically, drinking sports drinks when you exercise and your mouth is
dry is particularly problematic because you don't have enough saliva in
your mouth to combat the drink's acidity. And, if you think fruit juice
or soda are better alternatives, similar corrosive problems have been
found with them too. 
There are situations where wise uses of healthy sports drinks are an
option. However, this is far less than 1 percent of those that use them.
The only indication for these drinks is in those who are vigorously
exercising in cardiovascular aerobic activity for more than 45 minutes or
an hour (at a minimum) and are sweating profusely as a result of the
activity.
Anything less than 45 minutes will simply not result in a large enough
fluid loss to justify using these drinks. But even if you are exercising
for more than an hour I still believe that there are likely far better
options to rehydrate and this new study supports that belief.
This is largely because soft drinks, energy drinks and fruit drinks are
tainted with sugar. Studies have shown that some fruit juices contain as
much as 8 teaspoons of fructose per 8-ounce glass. Additionally nearly
all fruit juices are pasteurized which further damages the fluid. Energy
drinks can contain up to 80 mgs of caffeine and many of the sports drinks
contain high fructose corn syrup. If you aren't aware of the dangers of
fructose please review the excellent AJCN journal article on this topic.
There is a link on the page to the free full text review.
It is also important to know that soft drinks (even the diet varieties)
are harmful because they're loaded with artificial sweeteners like
aspartame. 
In an article I posted about this time last year about thawing out from
the previous winter by spring cleaning your body, the best bet for your
primary fluid is clean, fresh water. 
So by all means, get out there and take advantage of the spring weather
by hiking, jogging, walking, playing tennis--anything to be active. But
leave the sports drinks at home, or, better yet, back on the supermarket
shelf and bring some water with you instead.

CS>

[David S Osborne]

BROOKS:would you comment?
Dr. Mercola's Comment re sports drinks:
Now that spring is here and temperatures are beginning to climb upward, I
suspect many of you are itching to get outside and enjoy all the benefits
the extra sun and warmth can do for you and your health. I have been
running for nearly 40 years and it is not only my primary form of
exercise but also a major part of my life. Some of you will also chose
running. 
This is a good thing.
After a good run or heavy-duty dose of weight training, you may be
inclined to reach for one of the many popular "rehydrating" sports drinks
your local gym or supermarket sells. There are many reasons why you
shouldn't, and this study brings up a good one: they can corrode your
teeth. 
This is a bad thing.
Ironically, drinking sports drinks when you exercise and your mouth is
dry is particularly problematic because you don't have enough saliva in
your mouth to combat the drink's acidity. And, if you think fruit juice
or soda are better alternatives, similar corrosive problems have been
found with them too. 
There are situations where wise uses of healthy sports drinks are an
option. However, this is far less than 1 percent of those that use them.
The only indication for these drinks is in those who are vigorously
exercising in cardiovascular aerobic activity for more than 45 minutes or
an hour (at a minimum) and are sweating profusely as a result of the
activity.
Anything less than 45 minutes will simply not result in a large enough
fluid loss to justify using these drinks. But even if you are exercising
for more than an hour I still believe that there are likely far better
options to rehydrate and this new study supports that belief.
This is largely because soft drinks, energy drinks and fruit drinks are
tainted with sugar. Studies have shown that some fruit juices contain as
much as 8 teaspoons of fructose per 8-ounce glass. Additionally nearly
all fruit juices are pasteurized which further damages the fluid. Energy
drinks can contain up to 80 mgs of caffeine and many of the sports drinks
contain high fructose corn syrup. If you aren't aware of the dangers of
fructose please review the excellent AJCN journal article on this topic.
There is a link on the page to the free full text review.
It is also important to know that soft drinks (even the diet varieties)
are harmful because they're loaded with artificial sweeteners like
aspartame. 
In an article I posted about this time last year about thawing out from
the previous winter by spring cleaning your body, the best bet for your
primary fluid is clean, fresh water. 
So by all means, get out there and take advantage of the spring weather
by hiking, jogging, walking, playing tennis--anything to be active. But
leave the sports drinks at home, or, better yet, back on the supermarket
shelf and bring some water with you instead.

CS>cs:missing materia medica

[David S Osborne]

Can anyone shed light???

..suddenly, Fri or Sat, the Booericke Materia Medica seems to have
disappeared from the web  ???

this was one way I was able to get to it:

http://data.widgetworks.com:591/boericke/


I have the book but the search feature with the online [formerly] version
is SOOO helpful; even amazing.

..anyone have a functioning link to it??

help!!
davido

Re: CS>bladder infection

[David S Osborne]

Id suggest y'all use EsterC, specially at the "biggie" sizing. It has
been one of the best things I have done in my "lab"   davido



On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:48:52 -0500 "bailar"  writes:
Do you take 30 g in divided doses all day long? Ascorbic acid powder?
Thx.
- Original Message - 
From: omega 3 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: CS>bladder infection


Ernie...i take 30 grams for 1 day...then about 5 grams a day for several
days then back down to 3 grams as a maintainence dose...all my symptoms
leave  the first  dayEPF


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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2005 #60 REPLY

[David S Osborne]

look here.

http://www.biomech.com/index.jhtml?_requestid=61466

http://www.elitemedical.com/ehms1/juzostockings.htmlthese with
silver

and do a Google on:juzo silver


davido


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Re: CS>emphysema.breathing

[David S Osborne]

Herz another suggestion re humming/breathing:

Whilst humming, shove the tip of the tongue up agin the roof of the mouth
[full upper plate??; take it out whilst dooin it (we wont peek)].   Vary
the pitch of your hummm also.
davido>)



On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:20:05 -0800 (PST) Sally Khanna
 writes:
There is a breathing technique taught by Swami Nithyananda from
Tiruvanamalai, South India which involves humming loudly as long as
possible while exhaling.  It's called the Maha Mantra.

I think the Sudarshan Kriya is more powerful for improving breathing,
though.
Sally

Yogiboy  wrote:
You wrote:

Subject: Re: CS>emphysema.breathing

Has anyone had any success with humming while closing the mouth to
promote better breathing?Yoga? TJ
> 
I teach yoga and study it, and to my knowledge I have not heard of any
technique which has one humming and breathing through the nose while
practicing pranayama(life force energy). There are 3 types of breathing
which is yogic related which I know of. Viloma breath involves taking
usually 3 breaths with a pause in between each breath followed by a long
exhalation. Alternate nostril breathing, and Kabalbhati breathing. All
require a degree of control with no added dimension to the technique. I
have not tried humming and breathing together personally. But hey! One
can never tell..try it out. :-)

Ernie



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Re: CS>CS:> CS MS

[David S Osborne]

Hey folks who are doing Vit. D,  please make sure it's  D3   !!!  that
you are doing!!
NOT TO INCLUDE D2   davido



On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:58:29 -0800 "Harold MacDonald" 
writes:
> Dr Mercola is a great advocate of Vitamin D, and research shows that 
> MS is
> more prevalent in the northern climates where the available sunlight 
> is
> basically weaker and poor for good health.He also says we do not get 
> enough
> sunlight anywhere in the world as we have been so brain washed about 
> skin
> cancers.This evidently is a fallacy.For more definitive info go to 
> his
> site.I personally take 3000 IUs of "D" per day and in the summer sit 
> in the
> direct sun for an hour.I live on the south west coast of Canada.
> Harold
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Codex -- 1000 mg Vit."C" into STORE!?

[David S Osborne]

the "expiration" dates on the containers are arbitrary, are they not??
the same for all...  aren't most things marked to expire +2
years?

haven't I seen that some things are damaged by refrigeration, let alone
freezing?

I have really benefitted in switching to ester-c. where does one get
that?

.there are a million questions we face if our sources are to be cut
off in the near future and I wonder who really knows the answers, other
than guesses. I wonder if packaging that suggests "cool dry place" is
really from a truly knowlegable source or maybe just common sense.

Does anyone know anyone at LEF??  .that may be able to get some
informed information??
I guess any of us who are members can submit requests for info.

davido



On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:10:21 -0800 Nessie  writes:
> How about freezing???
>nessie..
> 
> 
> What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend 
> the 
> SHELF LIFE?
> 
> 1)Does one use VACUUM packing?
> 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS?
> 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C?
> 
> These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on 
> 
> your thinking caps!!
> 
> The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc.
> 
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CS>Unidentified subject!

[David S Osborne]

What is LEF Membership Benefits Become a Member Renew a Membership
Product Finder Product Index E-Advisor Products A to Z New Products
Popular Formulas 

Daily Mail02 Feb 2005 

FROM August, 5,000 food supplements are likely to disappear from UK
shelves. This follows an EU directive demanding that only ingredients on
a restricted EU 'approved list' be sold. Here, ANGELA EPSTEIN highlights
the most popular vitamins and minerals which will be affected. 

BORON Product facing ban: Biocare Osteoplex. 

TRACE mineral needed for absorption of calcium. Deficiency has been
linked to osteoporosis and arthritis. Boron is also believed to stimulate
electrical activity in the brain, increasing mental alertness. 

Natural sources: Grapes, nuts, pears, beer. 

VITAMIN E Facing ban: Biocare Tocotrienol Plus. 

AN antioxidant which protects against damage by the free radicals
associated with degenerative diseases. Vitamin E consists of a number of
related compounds called tocopherols and tocotrienols. Naturally
occurring versions of these compounds are to be banned. 

Natural sources:Wheat germ oil, sunflower seeds, hazelnuts, peanuts. 

CALCIUM Facing ban: Solgar Advanced Calcium Complex capsules. 

CALCIUM works with vitamin D and is needed to build bones and teeth, and
for cell function. Helps regulate heartbeat. 

Those listed to be banned include many bio available forms, which means
they are more easily absorbed by the body. 

Natural sources: Dairy products, broccoli, watercress, tofu, sardines,
salmon. 

ORGANIC CHROMIUM Facing ban: Viridian GTF Chromium Complex capsules. 

VITAL for balancing blood sugar levels by boosting the effectiveness of
insulin. Widely used by diabetics. 

Natural sources: Meat, cheese, brewer's yeast. 

POTASSIUM Facing ban: Nature's Plus Dyno Mins Potassium capsules. 

WORKS with sodium to regulate fluid balance, heart rhythm, nerve impulses
and muscle contractions. 

When potassium levels rise, sodium levels dip, so potassium can help
offset the effects of excessive sodium (such as fluid retention and high
blood pressure). 

Natural sources: Fish, lentils, kidney beans, tomato juice. 

IRON Facing ban: Health Aid Iron Bisglycinate capsules. 

ESSENTIAL for the production of haemoglobin - the pigment in red blood
cells that transports oxygen around the body. Many of the organic forms
of iron that are more easily absorbed by the body will be banned. 

Natural sources: Liver, chicken, wholegrains, spinach. 

SILICA Facing ban: Bioforce Silicea. 

ALSO known as silicon, this works in conjunction with boron, calcium and
other minerals to support bones, arteries, connective tissue, hair, skin
and nails. 

Natural sources: Oats, alfalfa, onions, root vegetables. 

ORGANIC SELENIUM Facing ban: Pharma Nord Bio-Selenium Zinc tablets. 

CONTRIBUTES to healthy immune response and helps regulate the thyroid
hormones. 

Selenium is also involved in healthy sperm production. 

Natural sources: Brazil nuts, wheat, barley, rice. 

VANADIUM Facing ban: Higher Nature True Food All Man capsules. 

TRACE mineral necessary for bone and tooth development. Too little may
result in high cholesterol, poor sugar control, as well as cardiovascular
disease. 

Natural sources: Corn, sunflower and olive oils, parsley, oats, rice. 

COPPER Facing ban: Solgar Chelated Copper Tablets. 

USED by every cell to process oxygen. Stimulates collagen and needed to
build bones and cartilage. 

Vital to the nervous system. 

Natural sources: Offal, cocoa, lobster, crab, spinach, whole grains. 

MANGANESE Facing ban: Biocare Nutrisorb Manganese Ascorbate. 

NEEDED for healthy joints and to help build bones and connective tissue. 

Plays an essential role in allowing body to produce energy. 

Natural sources: Pulses, brown rice, nuts, avocados. 

PHOSPHOROUS Facing ban: Nature's Plus Ultra-Mins Amino Acid Chelated. 

VITAL for energy and for building bones and teeth. Facilitates absorption
of many nutrients. 

Natural sources: Dairy products, meat and poultry. 

ZINC Facing ban: Allergy Research Group Zinc Picolinate tablets. 

CRITICAL for normal growth and reproduction. Needed for a healthy immune
system, night vision and our ability to taste and smell. 

Natural sources: Red meat, sunflower seeds, oysters, peanuts. 

PRO-VITAMIN A Facing ban: Biocare Microcell Lycopene Plus capsules. 

PROTECTIVE against infections. 

The forms that will be banned include many of the natural carotenoids
which are found in vegetables, and which, when eaten, make vitamin A in
the body. 

Natural sources: Orange-fleshed and dark green vegetables. 

VITAMIN B1 Facing ban: Nutri Multi Liver Formula capsules. 

KNOWN as thiamine. Essential in the release of energy from carbohydrates
and for healthy skin. 

Natural sources: Lean meat, fish, pulses, fortified breakfast cereals. 

SULPHUR Facing ban: Higher Nature MSM Sulphur tablets. 

BAN includes all forms of sulphur including Methyl Sulphur Methane, used
for arthritis, carpel tunnel syndrome and

Re: CS>peripheral neuropathy

[David S Osborne]

A GREAT ORG. TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR WEB SITE:  lef.org

Their info is very helpful.
The products they sell are pricey, but fine, and it is a main source
of income for them.Buy a lil bottle of D3 from them[real cheap] and you
should 
get multiple copies of their fine/informative magazine for free. davido

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:15:45 -0800 (PST) Sally Khanna
 writes:
What is Life Extension?

Sally

Dan Nave  wrote:
A new fat-soluble form of vitamin B1 has demonstrated significant
protection against sugar toxicity at the cellular level. In Europe, this
vitamin B1 derivative called benfotiamine is prescribed for those
suffering from disorders related to sugar toxicity, such as peripheral
neuropathy. The good news is that this nutrient has been added to
popular supplements already being taken by most Life Extension members.
Consumers can thus help protect themselves against the lethal dangers of
excess sugar (glucose) without having to swallow more capsules or spend
more money.

What You Don't Know About Blood Sugar

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/jan2004_awsi_01.htm



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CS>Fw: bibidobacteria

[David S Osborne]

bifidobacteria 

What Is It? 

Like its better-known cousin acidophilus, the bifidobacteria group (often
simply called bifidus) is considered a "probiotic." Bifidobacteria are
one of the hundreds of beneficial bacteria that inhabit your body's
intestinal tract, and help to fight off infection. 

Probiotics are especially helpful in preventing the diarrhea that can
result from antibiotic therapy. They ease other gastrointestinal
conditions as well, including irritable bowel syndrome and flatulence.
They also help to prevent vaginal and urinary tract infections, and to
counteract the overgrowth of the fungus Candida albicans. 

Some studies suggest that probiotics improve overall health by
strengthening immunity, which declines with age. A 2001 study in the
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that volunteers given milk
that contained bifidus experienced an increase in white blood cells,
which help fight off infection. 

Probiotics may also help protect against colon cancer. They create an
acidic environment in the intestine and neutralize the enzymes that
convert precarcinogens into carcinogens. Animal studies have also shown
that some probiotics directly inhibit the formation of tumor cells. 

Bifidus is a "lactic acid" bacteria. For people who are
lactose-intolerant or cannot digest the natural sugars in milk, bifidus
and other probiotics, such as acidophilus, can help. As they boost your
body's ability to digest milk sugars, probiotics reduce bloating and
gassiness. They combat bad breath, too. 

Although diary products, such as milk or yogurt, can be fortified with
bifidus or acidophilus, they are an unreliable source for therapeutic
levels of probiotics. Most such products do not contain a sufficient
quantify of "active" or live bacteria--generally considered to be a
minimum of one billion live organisms per dose. For this reason,
supplements may be a better choice. 

Bifidus is available in capsules or powders, often in combination with
acidophilus or fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS), indigistible dietary fibers
that also stimulate the growth of healthy intestinal bacteria. 

It's important to read the label of all bifidus or bifidus-acidophilus
combination products to be sure that the cultures are active. Check the
expiration date, too, and always refrigerate your probiotic supplements.
Both heat and freezing temperatures will kill the live bacteria. 

General Interaction 

There are no known drug or nutrient interactions associated with bifidus.


Cautions 


See a doctor if you are experiencing the symptoms of a vaginal yeast
infection for the first time. Not all such infections are caused by the
fungus (Candida albicans), which probiotics such as acidophilus and
bifidus help to counteract. Ailments Dosage Surgery Strategies 1 to 2
billion live organisms in capsules or powder twice a day or follow
package instructions. Helpful if antibiotics are prescribed; discontinue
about 2 weeks after surgery.

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CS>

[David S Osborne]

tryin again Mike [you are so kind and patient]. it should be RTF and if
there is an hmtl too, I dont see how.
davido

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Re: CS>[List Owner] Yes, there have been a few problems...

[David S Osborne]

That's probably someone "fishing" for email addresses, Sally. I get
things like that all the time.
Suggest immed/delete.  davido

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:25:25 -0800 (PST) Sally Khanna
 writes:
I received a funny "returned email" from the Mailer Daemon.  Only it came
from aol and I had never sent the email at all.

Sally

Yogiboy  wrote:
THAT! Is scary..

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From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>[List Owner] Yes, there have been a few problems...

Hi gang,

Well, the nefarious SPAM Nazis John R. has been going on about have, in 
fact, been messing with things at Eskimo!

A couple of the RBL's (Realtime Blackhole Lists) that Rober has been 
using to block SPAM into Eskimo, went dormant, causing Eskimo servers 
to take too long to reply to requests to send mail, causing the sending 
servers to give up. The net effect was a lot of mail getting blocked on 
its way in.

Those RBL's have been taken off the list so mail appears to be flowing 
normally again, except for some stuff going on at AOL. Apparently they 
put Eskimo on a spam fi! lter list, for no good reason as far as we 
anybody at Eskimo can tell, and they don't bother to actually follow 
any of the standard protocols for notifying the "offending" ISP's, 
leaving it to users and sysadmins to discover that AOL has had a snit.

That situation is *slowly* being resolved, since when Robert from 
Eskimo called them, all of *thier* customer service computers were 
down!! 

It's been real. 

I hope things settle down soon.

Be well,

Mike Devour
list owner guy

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Bacteria

[David S Osborne]

thanks for the compliment Jonathan but please note the info came from
mercola.com 
I hope I did not do a disservice to the info in my editing of it!!  There
were links in the original and I would encourage any interested party to
go to www.mercola.com and check it out in it's entirety.
davido


On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:55:50 +0900 "Jonathan B. Britten"
 writes:
> David Osbourne has posted some superb information here about 
> antibiotics and I and others are  certainly much obliged for this.   
> 
> Regarding the following section, I have one comment:
> 
> A simple and very low-cost probiotic known as EM-1 is well worth the 
> 
> time to learn about.I have posted perviously links to some 
> useful 
> sites;  check the archives.A quick refresher:
> 
> EM  -- essential microorganisms -- are most widely used in 
> agriculture. 
>   They are not approved for human use and one takes them at one's 
> own 
> risk.  I have done so for several years after learning how to make 
> EM 
> in Japan.   I am not an MD and can not recommend EM;  readers must 
> use 
> their own judgment.
> 
> A chief advantage in making one's own EM Extension is low cost.   A 
> 
> liter of EM costs about twenty dollars at the current exchange rate. 
>   
> I mix 100 cc of EM, 100 cc of molasses, and and 1800 cc of water in 
> a 
> two-liter pet bottle.I wait a few weeks,  and I have a mixture 
> very 
> close to the original EM.   Ideally, one keeps the brew at a warm 
> temperature during this time,  but in truth one gets an acceptable 
> brew 
> even at room temperature,  provided one starts with warm water to 
> get 
> the whole process started.
> 
> I believe that EM creates a beneficial internal environment in the 
> human intestines,  and can be especially useful in one is concerned 
> 
> about deficient intestinal flora, as Mr. Osbourne has described. 
> I 
> will stop here, and recommend again that anyone interested in this 
> topic educate himself/herself,  and also join the free yahoo EM 
> health 
> group.   (em-hea...@yahoogroups.com)
> 
> The moderator is a man named Vinny Pinto, who has provided countless 
> 
> pages of free information. He also has an extensive and detailed 
> 
> e-book for sale,  but one need not purchase this to get all the 
> essential information -- it really is free online.
> 
> For those on a budget needing probiotics,  EM may be one good 
> answer.
> 
> em-hea...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Thanks
> On Sunday, Dec 12, 2004, at 05:05 Asia/Tokyo, David S Osborne 
> wrote:
> 
> > Keep your bowels moving. If antibiotics kill off your friendly,
> > intestinal bacteria, once you cease taking antibiotics you’ll run 
> a
> > higher risk of infection by other, more hostile bacteria. These 
> > bacteria
> > will be quick to find and exploit pockets of debris that could be
> > collecting and putrefying in your intestines if you happen to 
> become
> > constipated. So, be sure to keep your digestive tract as clear as
> > possible until you can repopulate it with friendly bacteria. 
> Psyllium
> > hulls fiber from your local health food store is the best, bulk 
> fiber 
> > to
> > use, as long as you don’t have a history of intestinal 
> obstruction.
> > Psyllium not only relieves constipation. It also slows diarrhea 
> by
> > absorbing excess water. 

CS>

[David S Osborne]

Antibiotics -- to Take or Not to Take? by David A. Holland, M.D. 

I looked up antibiotics in Harrison’s Textbook of Internal Medicine. The
listing referred me to "antimicrobials." This caused me to realize how
much more accurately the second term describes these substances, given
the broad-spectrum nature of a lot of them. 

I must confess that, as a doctor, I do prescribe "antimicrobials."
Perhaps I prescribe more antifungals and nonprescription remedies than
the usual doctor, but I do prescribe antibiotics, as well. Perhaps even
more horrifying, considering Doug’s articles condemning them, is that
I’ve taken them myself! In fact, in these times it’s a rare individual
who goes through life without ingesting those little pills. So, three
questions have become important -- when should you take antibiotics, when
should you refrain, and what will you do when you’ve already taken them? 

Alexander Fleming, by the grace of God, brought us a mixed blessing in
1928 with his accidental discovery of penicillin produced by, of all
things, a fungus. Medicine’s interest treating people for exposure to
fungi dropped dramatically in succeeding years, until the microbes were
only thought important insofar as their ability to produce increasingly
diverse varieties of antibiotics. 

Interest in fighting bacteria proliferated like a flesh-eating Strep
infection, fueling the race to discover ever more antibiotics.
Pharmaceutical salespeople invaded doctors’ offices and hospitals, intent
on convincing physicians their antibiotic was better than the others.
These salespeople supported their pitches with studies, graphs, charts
and convincing stats, while often failing to mention that their research
had been funded by their own companies. The possible conflict of interest
was, and remains, enormous. 

I have no quarrel with such salespeople. They’re regular men and women
like you and me, just trying to make a living. However, when human lives
are involved, funding research to prove that your own product is better
than the competition’s is just plain wrong. The advantage is obvious, and
the danger that a great deal of objectivity could be lost is only all too
real. 

I believe that an impartial, third party should be assigned to perform
such research, funded by a mandatory "ante" from all pharmaceutical
compan­ies involved in producing a given category of drug. Of course,
that will be the day! In case the above scenario never happens, we would
do well to take with several grains of salt the unregulated information
that companies provide about their own products. 

Perhaps you are wondering about the use -- and abuse -- of antibiotics in
general. Let me give you an example. One of the most common diagnoses
given at a doctor’s office is the upper respiratory infection (URI). It
accounts for up to 70 percent of all antibiotics dispensed (Annals of
Internal Medicine. American College of Physicians. American Society of
Internal Medicine. March 20, 2001). 

However, according to Dr. Carol Kauffman, most URIs are not caused by the
bacteria that antibiotics are designed to fight. Rather, Kauffman says,
they are caused by fungi. So, unless a secondary, bacterial infection
presents itself -- and even then, the rules change -- most URIs do not
require the use of antibiotics. 

Regarding ear infections, in one study, children administered antibiotics
for acute otitis media suffered double the rate of adverse effects
compared to children in the study who took placebos (Clinical Evidence.
2000). The difference in outcome for those children in the study who took
antibiotics compared to those who do not was almost negligible. Some
scientists counter that children who take antibiotics run lower risks of
secondary ear infections such as meningitis or mastoiditis (infection of
the angular bone located behind your ear). 

Of course, the landscape is complicated by noncompliance. The portion of
people who take their antibiotics as prescribed has been estimated at
anywhere between 8 to 68 percent. So it’s difficult to say just how
effective antibiotics actually are. 

Now, say my daughter were to get sick for 10 days, miserable with a high
fever and screaming ear pain. Say our doctor said her ear canal checked
out as angry red. Am I going to have my daughter take the prescription?
Probably so. We cared for a young woman at the hospital where I worked
who was literally at her death bed with overwhelming Streptococcal --
bacterial -- pneumonia. One of her lungs was saturated with the
infection, which had also spread throughout her bloodstream. 

I went on to my next rotation thinking that was the last I would hear of
that patient. However, I later spoke with her attending physician. He
told me she walked out of that hospital, completely cured. So,
antibiotics save lives, but it’s not exactly a common occurrence.
Certainly, most of you out there suffering from the common cold are not
near death, so you should think twice about taking antibiotics. 

Th

CS>

[David S Osborne]

This is from Mercola's most recemt newsletter,. silver will prob do the
same as antibiotics ??  davido (I am sending in 2-parts)

newsletter at Mercola.com. 

Antibiotics Kill Your Body's Good Bacteria, Too, Leading to Serious
Health Risks Dr. Mercola's Comment: 

The information that follows is a two-part article taken directly from
Doug Kaufmann and Dave Holland, MD's new book, "The Fungus Link, Volume
2. 

by Doug Kaufmann 

"It is ironic that this humbled fungus, hailed as a benefactor of
mankind, may by its very success prove to be a deciding factor in the
decline of the present civilization." 

-Dr. John I. Pitt, The Genus Penicillum, Academic Press, 1979 

Simply put, antibiotics are poisons that are used to kill. Only licensed
physicians can prescribe them. The drugs are used to kill bacteria.
Certainly, many people have benefited from using them. However, if
bacteria were the only organisms that antibiotics killed, much of this
book would be unnecessary. In fact, I con­tend that poisons that kill
small organisms in small doses -- organism-specific varieties
notwithstanding -- can also kill big organisms, when they are taken in
big doses. You, my friend, are a big organism. 

We’ve talked about the link between fungus and human disease. This
chapter addresses the possibility that antibiotics may help fungi to
proliferate within the human body. 

As an adult human, you have three to four pounds of beneficial bacteria
and yeast living within your intestines. These microbes compete for
nutrients from the food you eat. Usually, the strength in numbers
beneficial bacteria enjoy both keeps the ever-present yeasts in check and
causes them to produce nutrients such as the B vitamins. 

However, every time you swallow antibiotics, you kill the beneficial
bacteria within your intestines. When you do so, you upset the delicate
balance of your intestinal terrain. Yeasts grow unchecked into large
colonies and take over, in a condition called dysbiosis. 

Yeasts are opportunistic organisms. This means that, as the intestinal
bacteria die, yeasts thrive, especially when their dietary needs are met.
They can use their tendrils, or hyphae, to literally poke holes through
the lining of your intestinal wall. This results in a syndrome called
leaky gut. Yeasts are not the only possible cause of this syndrome. Some
scientists have linked non-steroidal, anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS)
such as naproxen and ibuprofen to the problem. Given their ability to
alter intestinal terrain, antibiotics also likely contribute to leaky gut
syndrome. 

In addition to possibly causing leaky gut syndrome, I believe that
parasitic yeasts can also cause you to change what you eat in that they
encourage you to binge on carbohydrates including pasta, bread, sugar,
potatoes, etc. So, it should come as no surprise that weight gain counts
as one of the telltale signs of antibiotic damage and subsequent yeast
overgrowth. 

By altering the normal terrain of the intestines, antibiotics can also
make food allergies more likely. An array of intestinal disorders can
ensue, as well. Sadly, most doctors claim ignorance concerning their
patients’ intestinal disorders rather than admit that the drugs they
themselves prescribed actually caused the disorders to begin with. 

Tons of antibiotics are fed to American livestock on a daily basis,
purportedly to proof them against bacteria. This practice not only
possibly contributes to antibiotic resistance in humans -- many experts
feel weight gain, and not disease prevention, is the real reason
antibiotics are so widely used. Fat cattle sell for more than thin
cattle. That’s all very well, but imagine what the antibiotics thereby
possibly present in dairy products could be doing to our children’s
health. 

Back in the 1950s, two researchers in Albany, New York, worked to develop
an antimicrobial drug from a substance produced by a soil-based fungus.
Although the nystatin they discovered is technically a mycotoxin, it
works wonders an intestinal antifungal. This as yet revolutionary drug
stops the yeast overgrowth caused by all other antibiotics and is 100
percent safe to use. In addition, nystatin works with no side effects,
though it can cause a pseudo sickness that patients often confuse with
side effects. 

Also in the 1950s, scientists used mice to grade the relative toxicity of
340 antibiotics (Dr. William S. Spector, The Handbook of Toxicity, 1957).
The researchers based their rankings on the amount of a given antibiotic
required to kill half of the lab mice injected with it. I relate this
story only to ask you, before 1957, how did scientists decide what would
serve as prescriptive doses for these very same antibiotics when used in
humans? 

I’ll assume that the same toxicity scale remains in place today. If it
does, and if a given dose of penicillin will kill 50 percent of mice
injected, it stands to reason that a much larger dose, or perhaps
repetitive doses extended over 40 years, might prove fata

Re: CS>

[David S Osborne]

Hmmm  something in the foregoing [mercola] didnt
make it to the list:

I sent it cause it may be helpful to SilverFolks getting around the feds

If the 'cutical bandits can get around em so easily, mebbee us 'bad' guys
can too.


davido


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[David S Osborne]

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FDA is "Virtually Incapable of Protecting You From Unsafe Drugs"
 
Most people are familiar with the scrupulous claims against the FDA's
inability to protect Americans from unsafe drugs. It has been an issue
flooding the headlines of newspapers and the nightly news for the past
few months. 
Accusations against the FDA started when Merck was pulled Vioxx from the
market in 2004. Apparently the FDA had been aware of the drug's adverse
side effects as early as 1999. Since Vioxx's removal, other drugs have
been placed under the microscope and the agency's credibility has been
questioned. One FDA drug safety reviewer, Dr. David Graham, told a
Congressional panel that federal drug regulators were "virtually
incapable of protecting America." 
Previously "Approved" Drugs in Question
Crestor (cholesterol-lowering drug): Causes acute kidney failure 
Bextra (painkiller): Increases risk of heart attack in those undergoing
cardiac surgery and may also cause a fatal skin reaction 
Meridia (weight-loss pill): Causes substantial increases in blood
pressure and has been associated with 124 reports of serious
cardiovascular problems 
Serevent (asthma medication): Increases risk of asthma-related deaths and
life-threatening episodes 
Accutane (acne drug): Causes birth defects 
The director of the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research opposed
Graham's accusations; arguing Graham's findings and numbers "constitute
junk science" and were nonetheless "irresponsible." The director
continued on by stating that all of the agency's decisions and drugs are
not only safe but also effective. 
New York Times November 19, 2004



Dr. Mercola's Comment:
As it so vividly obvious, conventional medicine is entering a terminal
phase. That is why it is so important to take a stance now. 
For the past few months I have been seeing seven new patients every day
that see me from all over the country. Many have very serious diseases
and are on multiple medications. In nearly every case we are able to
develop a plan to help wean them off of all their medications and become
symptom free. 
This is not an ad for my clinic, as there are many outstanding natural
medicine clinicians that can provide similar services. The point is to
get you off these dangerous medications before they kill you and seek
competent professional help if you require that. The Vioxx scandal is a
perfect example. Tens of thousands of people needlessly died so that
Merck could make a few billion extra dollars. 
Conventional healthcare slowly but surely progressed into a nasty
disease; which now is at a rapid progression towards death. This
"disease" is caused by: 
Rampant conflict of interest 
Tainted research and greed 
Lying and cheating by the morally bankrupt drug industry 
Inept federal and state regulators 
Unfortunately, one of the most prominent article on this site is "Doctors
are the Third Leading Cause of Death." Well that article was written in
2000 and (based on a variety of newer references) doctors are in fact the
LEADING cause of death in this country. Not heart disease, not cancer --
doctors. 
In all fairness, doctors themselves are not to blame for all of this. The
entire modern health care system, however, is to blame for allowing, even
promoting, so many unnecessary procedures, DRUGS and mishaps. This
illustrates precisely why the system is so desperately in need of change,
and why facilitating this change is, and will continue to be, such a
substantial portion of my vision. 
You can eliminate your "need" for drugs with these two factors -- monitor
the foods you put into your body and address your emotional well being.
These factors have absolutely everything to do with building your immune
system and avoiding unnecessary pharmaceuticals.
This is no "quick fix," but rather is a lifestyle change that will be
well worth the effort. To fully understand the details of these factors,
I highly recommend getting my Total Health Program, as this book will
allow you to realize the action needed to set you free from the
"pill-taking" life and give you ultimate control of your health.

CS>re inulin

[David S Osborne]

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Re: CS>CS and Bio North magnets?

[David S Osborne]

magnetize silver??


On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 07:09:05 GMT "scl...@netzero.com" 
writes:
> 
>  Has anyone tried magnetizing CS using bio-north magnets? Any 
> therapeutic effects?
> 
> Thanks
> Steve
> 
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Re: CS>FDA raids New Mexico

[David S Osborne]

PLEASE LOOK INTO KEVEN TRUDEAR!!!   DO A GOOGLE AT
LEAST!!   davido

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:24:19 -0500 "Yogiboy"  writes:
Hello,
 
Although I might add that I haven’t had much exposure to the
pharmaceuticals I have read enough to realize they have a monopoly on
health care and trying to squash every possible iota of information
available to the public. I also know there are activitist, for lack of
better word who are fighting the system to make sure the information
doesn’t stay underground.
 
I recently bought a book called: Natural Cures “THEY” don’t want you to
know about. Author: Keven Trudeau.
There is a website which require subscription and I might ad is somewhat
pricey. Although I haven’t signed up I have read the book. I suppose
someone that wants to find out any natural cure at a one stop shopping
site this might be a valuable investment. He had pledged to become one of
the biggest consumer advocates for not only personal reasons but also for
the betterment of human kind.
 
Please note: I am not promoting this book nor website. I am merely trying
to bring awareness and information to help people recognize that people
are fighting the unjust system. 
Please feel free to respond.
 
Sincerely…Ernie
 
-Original Message-
From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
 
Unfortunately this is probably true.  Last month the FDA raided Sea
Silver and removed over 100,000 bottles of product and all their files.
In August 2005 a new law will come into effect which will make all of our
nightmares come true….  I guess the Doctors and Pharmaceutical companies
feel they are losing a lot of money by people using alternative medicine.
 
I hate the thought of only being able to purchase Vitamin C in a 50 mg
tablet…and etc.
 



From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:39 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>FDA raids New Mexico
 
Trem,
 
If this is true it could be a warning that the feds will try and shut
down any and all food supplement industries eventually.  Notice how
negative press is slowly creeping its way into the media about such
things as Vitamin C.  Soon, all of our natural alternative remedies will
be available by prescription only... or not at all.  God help us
 
Bob

Re: CS>CS good & bad stomach bacteria

[David S Osborne]

Thanks for that info, sol:

but I wonder about the conclusion,  that the cs doesn't have
a whole lot of impact in the colon. This is from my own 'labwork', my own
body. 

I am semi-retired; drive a school bus about 4 hrs per weekday; I didn't
keep any records, but starting around the first of this year, I was
ingesting about a gal. of cs/gatorade [i'd sa 'atleast'], the mix being
APPROX  3qts Gatora, 1qt cs [6-8ppm ish]. After 3 to 4 weeks of being
quite regular with it, I realized my eliminations had become quite loose
and herx like; my sense was that the good flora was being killed off;
that my digestion was not being complete. 

I stopped the cs, continued with the GA, did acidophilus caps big-time,
and after several days, my digestion/system seemed to balance out, the
stool returned to what's normal for me.

I'm sad that I didn't keep a log on all this 'cause I am to the age where
'senior moments' are main events and I am sure I've lost some important
detail to my experimentation. but my sense is the cs did get to the
intestinal flora and [in tech. terms] screwed up that part of my
digestive process.

I am still a big-time GA chugger and I plan to add the cs back again in a
while and I will try to keep better data.

.comments anyone??   davido


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:48:53 -0700 sol  writes:
> http://library.thinkquest.org/22016/digestion/?tqskip1=1
> http://distance.stcc.edu/BIOL102/Lectures/lesson13/humandig.htm
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion
>
http://www.framingham.edu/faculty/mcarrol/fall2001concepts_files/digestio
n.htm
> 
> In addition my basic family medical guide says the "normal 
> intestinal 
> flora" in the human intestines are found in the colon, not in the  
> stomach or small intestines.
> 
> Thus there are NO "good bacteria" in a human stomach. So nothing for 
> CS 
> to hurt. In the colon the water content of the food remains is 
> removed 
> and absorbed, thus the colon contents are relatively dry, so CS is 
> not 
> able to be very active there at all. If one accepts the Altman study 
> as 
> reperesentative of how CS is excreted in most humans, little CS 
> exits 
> the body through the feces so it is extremely unlikely that CS could 
> 
> harm the colon's normal flora.
> sol
> 
> 
> twllLL wrote:
> 
> > This article claims too much CS kills off good bacteria in the 
> > stomach.He also mentions the libertarian turning blue,but doesn't 
> go 
> > into detail about ionic or non ionic CS.
> > http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ea2002/ea_021114.shtml
> 
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Re: CS>Rosacea

[David S Osborne]

if you really want to cure psoriasis, check out Dr. John Pagano's
info   davido

 - Dr. Pagano 
... The original book is a comprehensive report which outlines Dr.
Pagano's psoriasis regimen and chronicles the results his patients have
attained by using his ... 
www.psoriasis-healing.com/ - 7k - Cached - Similar pages




On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:51:54 -0500 "MED"  writes:
Does anyone have any experience with  CS and Rosacea and/or flaky
dermatitis/psoriasis?  Any comments would be appreciated.

TIA

M.

CS>re:ozone therapy

[David S Osborne]

interesting:

http://www.drrecommend.com/lst/Health/Alternative/Ozone_Therapy

davido


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Re: CS>Ozone

[David S Osborne]

Suggest those interested in energy med./ ozone/ etc pay
a visit here:

http://www.meridianinstitute.com/eaem/energy.htm

The texts and pamphlets and manuals here are extremely interesting.
A component generated by a favorite old instrument of mine, "the
quack medical device", the Violet Ray- IS OZONE!!

Poke thru these texts and you'll find 'ozone' mentioned in several.

Do I remember hearing one time, there is such a thing as a 'good ozone'
and such a thing as a 'bad kinda ozone'???


As an aside:  
Meridian Institute is a unique 'group' that has been struggling
funds-wise for years, the research they have been doing has been
financed largely by the sweat of their collective brow and great
personal sacrifice. If you have been blessed beyond your needs, 
Meridian may offer an opportunity for you!!  They sometimes have
need of volunteer helpers.  example-- I was able to help a teeny
bit by doing some typing on one of the texts now offered at their
site [most of these old texts do not lend themselves to being scanned]
Even if you cannot help, I suggest these are some wonderful
folks to know about.

blessings,  davido

Re: CS>product on web

[David S Osborne]

I would suggest trying to check it out with Dr. Mercola. I believe you
can
find a way to email him questions [mercola.com]

It sounds intriguing, scary.

davido

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:21:30 + "suzy sue" 
writes:
Here is the Angioprim web page. tell me what you all think
http://www.Angioprim.com
thanks
Sue







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CS>again........ aspartame

[David S Osborne]

Hi Catherine!

Was I hearing you say the Aspartame thing is a hoax??


Wonder if you would comment about the info here??

thanks in advance.   davido

http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/forms/sweet_misery.htm


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CS>aspartame

[David S Osborne]

..someone 'here' posted an address
where there was a pretty big list
of various products containing
aspartame...   is that dear
person listening andst couldst
give again??

thanks in advance:
davido


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CS>CLEANZING PRODUCTS

[David S Osborne]

Howz about some of you chemists, n pharm., etc  comin up with a line
similar to the clenzology products, only uzin SILVER??
pretty much everyone offers this Clenzology stuff at the same [30 off] 
price.
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VITAMIN E, CASTOR OIL, SODIUM CHLORIDE, ZINC SULFATE, QUATERNIUM-15*,
PHENYLPHENOL*, SODIUM PHENYLPHENATE*, BENZALKONIUM CHLORIDE*. 

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CS>" microban"

[David S Osborne]

Anybody know anything about "Microban" antimicrobial product??

they give WWW.microban.com as a web site, but give about zero info, NO
mention of silver.

it sounds like  AGion.

davido


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CS>Unidentified subject!

[David S Osborne]

mental giants, they


Higher Mobile Phone Power Output in Rural than in Urban... 
506594.BMJ
 The power required by mobile phones in rural areas where base
stations are sparse is significantly higher than in urban areas where
base
stations are plentiful, concludes research. (Embargo expired on 8-18-04,
18:10 ET)
J. of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Aug-2004
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CS>This just in:

[David S Osborne]

"Kleenex" has announced an "anti-viral" tissue will be introduced
this fall.

No idea if CS is involved.

davido


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Re: CS>New commercial use of silver

[David S Osborne]

where ya been Tom  therz more than one.
davido

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:22:17 -0400 "tbass"  writes:
> CS gang,
> One of the name brand band aid
> companies now puts out a series of band aid
> sizes with silver coated pads. They also print 
> (in very small letters) which bacteria and other
> pathogens the band aids protects against..!!
>  It's silver recognition time.!
> Tom Bassett
> 
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Re: CS>New commercial use of silver

[David S Osborne]

go to the Agion site and see all the things they are "silverizing"
davido

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:00:14 -0700 "bbanever" 
writes:
I bought a new pair of running shoes yesterday and the shoes had a label
on the foam insoles that read : Agion antimicrobial
*Prevents growth of odor causing bacteria
*Lasts the life of the product
*Antimicrobial silver technology proven safe and effective.

These running shoes were made by Addidas!

Re: CS>Pyramids and health

[David S Osborne]

See here, now.  even more interesting than Star Trek:

http://www.gizapyramid.com/BIO-Flanagan.htm


been there, by the way; sat on the edge of the sarcophagus,
but not having my OBA could not bring myself to lie down in it  
[t'ain't called The Great P without basis]. There was convincing,
scientific proof that the pyramid shape does little to care for the
centuries of human urine and excrement.

davido

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:41:27 -0400 Marshall Dudley
 writes:
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> 
> > Well for one thing I am a friend of his, and know him and his work 
> quite
> > well.  His site is ascention2000.com
> 
> Opps, that should have been - http://ascension2000.com/
> 
> Marshall
> 
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CS>re malaria

[David S Osborne]

suggest all interested in Malaria do a Google:
 
"malaria pill depression suicide"
 
apparantly 3 out of the 4 GIUs who killed their spouses
and committed suicide had used the drug given to millions
for malaria [prevention?]

davido


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Re: CS>Spider Bite Documents and References

[David S Osborne]

Sure wish someone would try the Violet Ray on a bite.

Never had the nerve myself but I have seen someone use the eyecup
applicator directly on the eye. I have used one numerous times on my
neck.

Never have had a recluse bite to try it on. Feel sure it would do the
trick.
davido


On Thu, 13 May 2004 15:13:48 -0400 "Charles Sutton"
 writes:
> Just my two cents, but in this case I would want to forgo the 
> electricity
> and use the healing (betonite) clay and CS to draw out the poison 
> and heal.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Wayne Fugitt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:26 PM
> Subject: CS>Spider Bite Documents and References
> 
> 
> > Morning Deborah,
> >
> >  >> With a spider bite located on my neck, close to what 
> functioning brain
> > >cells I have left, I am distinctly not crazy about the idea of 
> zapping
> > >myself with 25,000 volts.
> >
> 
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Re: CS>Ghosts! And when to CS.

[David S Osborne]

hi  himagain.
my understanding of the way homeopathics work is that you give the
"patient" a substance
that contains the essence of the "problem condition", for the purpose of
stimulating said patient's own immune system to combat "problem" and
hopefully guard against future attacks [ie effecting a "cure"]

.if that is correct. what would be the problem caused by silver
that you would wish the body's immune system to guard against??
davido

On Sun, 09 May 2004 11:03:53 +1000 John Rigby 
writes:
Hi folks,
Sorry - some *elderly* posts not noticed, just went following my fixing
an odd problem with my email program . there *IS* a ghost in my
machine 

Speaking of which:  Does anyone know if there is such a thing as an
homeopathic version of Silver, CS or not?  
..etc

Re: CS>Chemo

[David S Osborne]

It's not spec. what you ask about, but...  I would strongly suggest
that you strongly
suggest to them find a place to get aloe vera by the gal.
...drink it constantly [goal
is to keep it on the stommie lining as much as possible. It has been
found to be extremely
healing for those who are undergoing the oral chemo. I'm sure it wouldnt
hurt to add cs.
davido

On Mon, 10 May 2004 06:42:54 -0400 "Deb&Mark" 
writes:
Hi all,  I just found out that a friends husband is on his 3rd round of
chemo ( I don't know what type of cancer).  I know chemo destroys your
immune system.  I want to make him CS.  I just don't know what amount he
should be taking and should I add dmso and msm or leave straight CS? 
Thanks everyone.  Deb

Re: CS>Psoriasis

[David S Osborne]

hey, Ross...

I learned awhile back, if "the friend" isn't invested in their own
wellness at least as much as the rest of us [put together]. they
really don't want to be well.
davido


On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:30:50 -0300 "Ross Craig"
 writes:
WoW davido, the fonts you use are certainly stimulating.so, i thank
you for those links and now will do the research

however, it is my good friend's problem, and he is a max type A
personality and it would be hard to get him to even treat the symptoms
topically, if it takes more than three seconds

he figures, since the affected areas drastically shrink  when he goes
south for a type A sailing vacaction...that he only needs to work harder
to get enough money to do it all the time

i know the psoriasis is only a symptom, but it will be a helluva time
convincing him of that...

he does not listen to many ppl as you can see, but i have a better chance
than his wife of getting through to him

so she is on my side too, to get him some help

thanks for all the posts

ross
- Original Message - 
From: David S Osborne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Psoriasis


ross   

..this is an internal problem!!  Topical applications are of minimal,
shortterm bene.
first and foremost importance is  internal cleansing!!2nd
is DIET.
find someone in your area certified in COLONICS
set up a schedule for one a week [no less], skip for a
couple weeks and then get a couple more. On Dr John's site below, a
different schedule may be suggested; I strongly suggest you do what Dr
John suggests and stick to it!~

go here:
This address is for Dr. John Pagano  [DC i believe]
Dr John is the expert on curing Psoraisis, and hi on the list of
dear-souls in the planet.

http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/

davido

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0300 "Ross Craig"
 writes:
Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? 

ross

i did look in the archives and found nothing there.

Re: CS>Was: CS and horses; IS: HEAD INJURY

[David S Osborne]

MIKE!!!

I found this incredibly interestin and it seems so important.
Is there info published re the effacy of this protocal??  where?
Is it being used as you suggest anywhere???
.tell us more
davido


On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:34:19 -5 "M. G. Devour" 
writes:
> Garnet wrote:
> > > DMSO is very good for normalizing head trauma in stroke
> > > and closed head injury.
> 
> Indeed, while I was reading up on DMSO last year this was something 
> 
> that made me very angry.
> 
> By now DMSO should be standard aboard every crash cart and EMS unit. 
> It 
> should be a routine first response to start an IV drip of saline or 
> 
> ringer's and 30% DMSO for stroke, spinal cord and closed head 
> injuries.
> 
> Entirely safely, DMSO serves to *drastically* reduce intracranial 
> swelling, which is what causes most of the crippling and death from 
> 
> these traumas.
> 
> Think of all the people who've been crippled or died from trauma to 
> the 
> brain or spinal cord since the 1960's. Every one of them has been 
> denied a chance at life by the FDA's suppression of DMSO research.
> 
> My mother died from a stroke at the age of 54 in 1980.
> 
> Mike D.
> 
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Re: CS>Fw: [rifers] What's next...

[David S Osborne]

...both products have been mentioned here previously..

the J&J product can be traced back to AGion inc [via DuPont, in itself
interesting]
and AGion has been extensively mentioned here.
davido:]


On Wed, 5 May 2004 06:50:17 -0400 "T J Garland" 
writes:
> 
> : [rifers] What's next...
> 
> 
> > Hi all!
> >
> > This is a bit off topic but it sort of blew me away.
> >
> > Was in the Pharmacy dept of Walmart and found two items, one by 
> Johnson &
> Johnson and the other Curad. Both were a version of bandaids, and 
> both
> contained "silver".
> >
> > Curad's was a bandaid with "silver gel", that can be worn "48 
> hours or
> until it falls off".
> >
> > The box also states "laboratory testing showed that silver in the 
> dressing
> reduced bacterial growth (Staph. aureus, E coli, E. hirae and P. 
> aeruginosa
> for 48 hours)."
> >
> > Curad is made in Germany, and the silver is "0.003% silver oxide", 
> but to
> find it on the shelves in the USA was quite unique.
> >
> > Although they don't quite have it right, the mainstream must be 
> listening
> a little!
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>MS Sufferer

[David S Osborne]

I mess with 5htp cause it's avail right down the street at a fraction of
your trypto.
and also, I've had great success with it at extremely reasonable doseage
and I have
had NOOO, NADA "fringe" problems.

and, I have nooo problem "picking it up" or putting it down as appro. for
me. Just my experience...  i no claima be a spert.
davido:)

On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:31:34 -0500 Garnet 
writes:
> You can buy Tryptophan from www.fludan.com - why mess with 5 HTP, 
> which
> requires higher doses to get the same effect as it is further from
> Serotonin in the metabolic pathway you are trying to push.
> 
> Also SAMe, DMAE and Thai Holy Basil will all elevated mood through
> serotonin.
> 
> As well some hypnotists are working with raising Serotonin levels 
> and
> balancing brain chemistry through hypnotic suggestion.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 19:21, David S Osborne wrote:
> > ..good luck with the Col.Gold.
> >  
> > 5HTP may be a great alternative also. I had better luck with it 
> than
> > with the gold.
> > davido
> >  
> > On Sat, 01 May 2004 18:48:19 + "Marie Hofman"
> >  writes:
> > Thanks to all who helped me with advice re weaning Dave 
> off
> > Fluoxetine (Prozac).  I have since been reading about
> > Colloidal Gold and found many testimonials where people 
> have
> > used CG with no side effects to wean off Prozac. Wow! is 
> it
> > that simple? 
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Re: CS>MS Sufferer

[David S Osborne]

..good luck with the Col.Gold.

5HTP may be a great alternative also. I had better luck with it than with
the gold.
davido

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(Prozac).  I have since been reading about Colloidal Gold and found many
testimonials where people have used CG with no side effects to wean off
Prozac. Wow! is it that simple? 





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Re: CS>Silver In Horse Bandages

[David S Osborne]

ask 'em "What chooo gots agin a BLUE HORSE??"
davido

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:44:18 -0500 Garnet 
writes:
> I have been discussing CS on a horse forum that I am on and some are
> very skeptical due to Argyria info they turn up on searches, but 
> many
> are interested. Horse folks want to know what really works and will 
> be
> easy, inexpensive and keep wounds below the knee from forming Proud
> Flesh, a common occurrence in slow healing wounds. I will be 
> posting
> this information there this morning. It will be interesting to see 
> how
> this cross section of humanity from Dressage Queens to Outback 
> Sheep
> Herders reacts to this product.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> ~
> 
> Equus May 2004 in their New Products section lists VetAg Wrap.
> 
> "Antimicrobial wound dressings. A thin stretchable fabric made of
> medical-grade-nylon coated with 99 percent pure silver, these wraps 
> are
> designed to inhibit bacterial growth in pressure sores, burns, 
> abrasions
> and other open wounds without the use of drugs.
> 
> The dressing is placed directly over cleaned wound, with or without 
> an
> over lying bandage. The VetAg Wrap may be removed while the wound 
> is
> cleaned, then rinsed in water and reapplied, but it needs to be 
> disposed
> of once the wound has healed. The dressings come in three sizes and 
> can
> be cut to fit.
> 
> Manufacturers comments: 'Silver salve has been used on burn victims 
> for
> years, and historically, it was used before penicillin was 
> invented',
> says Marty Emrich, sales and marketing representative for Berlin
> Industries. 'The silver has been known to have antimicrobial 
> properties
> for up to 28 days.'
> 
> Price $9.50 for a four fy four inch pad; $15.99 for an eight by 
> sixteen
> inch pad; $19.95 for a four by twenty four inch pad.
> 
> Source: Berlin Industries, PO Box 215, Berlin, Center, Ohio 44401; 
> (800)
> 544-3635; www.selectfabricators inc.com."
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CS>re cold virus hiding in the body, particularly children.

[David S Osborne]

this is the address of a recent press release [pretty much copied below
for your conv.]

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/504538/?sc=wire

Researchers discover cold virus can 'hit and hide' 

Newswise — An international team of researchers has discovered that
respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), a common cold virus causing
bronchiolitis in children, can act as a 'hit and hide' virus. It was
thought that the virus could only survive in the body for a few days, but
these new results show that the virus can survive for many months or
years, perhaps causing long-term effects on health, such as damage to the
lungs. 

The research, published in this month's American Journal of Respiratory
and Critical Care Medicine, was a joint project between Imperial College
London, St Mary's Hospital, London and the Ruhr-Universitat Bochum,
Germany. 

Professor Peter Openshaw, from Imperial College London and St Mary's
Hospital, and one of the papers authors, comments: "These studies show
that RSV is a 'hit and hide' virus, rather like HIV, herpes or some
hepatitis viruses. The symptoms seem to go away but the virus is just
hiding, waiting for a chance to re-emerge and begin infecting other
people." 

The researchers infected mice with the human RSV, and found that after 14
days, the virus could no longer be found in samples taken from the
airways, but tell-tale traces of the virus's genetic material (viral RNA)
were still found lying dormant in lung tissue over 100 days later. 

The team believes that this may also be the case in humans, and that long
after the initial symptoms, such as coughs and sneezes, have disappeared,
the virus could lie dormant in the body. It is possible that the
recurrent wheezing which occurs in children who have suffered from
bronchiolitis may be due to virus hidden in the lung. 

Professor Openshaw says: "Some people may be 'carriers', able to act as a
source of new outbreaks in children. If RSV is a 'hit and hide' virus,
this could explain where this virus goes in the summer and where it comes
from each winter. If the virus is able to lie dormant in previously
infected individuals, it could re-emerge when the conditions are right
and cause the outbreaks that fill our children's wards each winter." 

RSV is very common infecting most children during their first year of
life and for some infants RSV leads to bronchiolitis, one of the major
causes of infant hospitalisation in the Western world. Around 40 percent
of infants who experience bronchiolitis as a result of RSV infection are
subsequently affected by recurring wheeze and up to a third can also
suffer with childhood asthma. 

This research was supported by grants from the Wellcome Trust and the
Bundes Ministerium fur Bildung and Forschung.

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Re: CS>Psoriasis

[David S Osborne]

ross   

..this is an internal problem!!  Topical applications are of minimal,
shortterm bene.
first and foremost importance is  internal cleansing!!2nd
is DIET.
find someone in your area certified in COLONICS
set up a schedule for one a week [no less], skip for a
couple weeks and then get a couple more. On Dr John's site below, a
different schedule may be suggested; I strongly suggest you do what Dr
John suggests and stick to it!~

go here:
This address is for Dr. John Pagano  [DC i believe]
Dr John is the expert on curing Psoraisis, and hi on the list of
dear-souls in the planet.

http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/

davido

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:17:03 -0300 "Ross Craig"
 writes:
Does anyone have any info or experience on CS treatment for psoriasis? 

ross

i did look in the archives and found nothing there.

CS>silver bandages

[David S Osborne]

anyone notice the CURAD ads for "silver in the pad"
bandages.

davido


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Re: CS>(ok mik),ring worm verses c/s

[David S Osborne]

oregano  ?
davido


On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:49:39 -0500 Garnet 
writes:
> Add a little DMSO, 20% or 1 part DMSO to 4 parts CS. The DMSO will 
> help
> the CS penetrate.
> 
> Also pure Tee Tree Oil kills it.
> 
> Garnet
> 
> On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 22:15, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> > Ring Worm is a fungus, so I would expect it to help.
> > 
> > Marshall
> > 
> > akajhon wrote:
> > 
> > > Does C/S work on ringworm ?
> > > Tanks,,
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Re: CS>Brownian Motion

[David S Osborne]

for those of us operating on a lower frequency; what is
EIS again?
I would submit AGion is well on the way around any argyria scare. Having
their product approved for use in the food handling industry is not
exactly
light-years from ingestion.

davido


On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:49:37 +0900 "Jonathan B. Britten"
 writes:
> I second the motion.   EIS is a useful term and perhaps we should 
> promote it."CS" plays into the hands of the argyria 
> scaremongers.   
>   Let us make them use our terminology and then see what evidence 
> they 
> can produce.
> 
> 
> JBB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, Apr 13, 2004, at 19:10 Asia/Tokyo, Matthew McCann PE 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Stuff,
> >  
> > As far as the ionic fraction of EIS is concerned
> > (and that would seem to be most of it,) mutual
> > repulsion does homogenize the solution. So  the
> > answer to your question is Yes.
> >  
> > P.S. I'm really starting to like the distinctive
> > meaning of "EIS."  Jason deserves thanks for
> > coining it.
> >  
> > Matthew
> 


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CS>splenda??

[David S Osborne]

what do we think of splenda??
noote it is in one of the Gatorade products.


http://mercola.com/2004/apr/14/splenda_reactions.htm

http://mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/dec/3/sucralose_products.htm

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Re: CS>lung congestion

[David S Osborne]

thanks for the info on eucal.
davido

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:49:50 -0400  writes:
> 
> 
> The proof is in the pudding. I say the DMSO and MSM are also healing 
> the
> lungs..
> 
> Eucalyptus oil can also heal and rebuild lungs according to this -->
> http://www.inhalationproducts.com/oils/eucalyptusref.htm
> 
> �The whole breathing process is actually aided by eucalyptus, 
> because it
> both helps to regenerate lung tissue as well as acting as an 
> expectorant and
> decongestant.�
> 
> I use eucalyptus and the Harbor Freight nebulizer CS/DMSO/MSM method 
> with
> good results
> 
> One inch of Eucalyptus oil in empty beer bottle. Shake. Close one 
> nostril
> and inhale deeply through other.
> 
> 
> D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rob Combis" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 2:34 PM
> Subject: CS>lung congestion
> 
> 
> > I have used CS in a nebulizer (along with MSM and a small amount 
> of DMSO)
> to treat asthma very successfully in my sister.  She had a healing 
> reaction
> for a few days, felt like bronchitis, but she continued and her 
> asthma
> symptoms were reduced by 80% or so.
> >
> > My questions is this.  My father is a carpenter who has inhaled 
> fumes, saw
> dust, sheet rock dust, etc...for almost 40 years.  Just recently he 
> has had
> trouble breathing and needs to wear a mask on the job site to get 
> through
> the day.  He has serious congestion in the lungs from these foreign
> substances that are affecting his lungs.  My initital thought would 
> be that
> CS wouldn't be able to help here because it is not bacteria/fungus 
> related,
> but I am not sure.  Could the foreign substances be allowing 
> bacteria/fungus
> to prosper thus causing the congestion.  Would CS help out here??
> >
> > Any advice would be much appreciated
> >
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CS>Unidentified subject!

[David S Osborne]

This seems interesting to me, a bumbling lay-person.
A. It wonders me if this process might be going on in/with lots of
various manifesting conditions.
B. It wonders me if there may be a place for CS in the mix.
C. Well, there's probably at least a C but it eludes at the
moment.
davido

from ImmuneSupport.com
Tip of the Day for April 13, 2004 

The immune system may be compromised in FMS sufferers. Natural Killer
(NK) cells seek out and destroy foreign invaders in our bodies. When FMS
patients' NK cells were tested by I. Jon Russell, M.D., they were found
to be in normal amounts, but their activity was low. Researchers do not
know why this is so, but serotonin may influence the activity of these NK
cells. A high incidence of immune-reactive proteins have been found in
the skin of FMS patients. These are not normally seen in a healthy
person's skin. In other words, proteins are leaking through the blood
vessel walls and accumulating in surrounding tissues, which often occurs
in conditions that have an immunologic component. 

(Source: Taking Charge of Fibromyalgia, by Julie Kelly, M.S., R.N., and
Rosalie Devonshire, M.S.W.) 

This tip provided courtesy of ImmuneSupport.com

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Re: CS>Silver in Powder Coat Paints

[David S Osborne]

thank you for the post Garnet

Notice the article leads to AgION inc. I put a post here a few weeks
[mos] back about their new application and model home in Calif where many
surfaces in the huge house are of stainless steel with silver
impregnated. They have also done things like coating stethascopes, other
food preparation surfaces and on and on. they have a website.
I think they may be the ones who sold 5mil prs socks to the military here
a while back.
I forget the name of the parent company.
They are gonna corner the market.
I'd bet they are the ones buyin up the silver.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:11:12 -0500 Garnet 
writes:
> Use of Silver in powder coat paint.
> 
> http://www.pfonline.com/articles/020401.html
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CS>pyo in cats

[David S Osborne]

help:

Sister in Law has a Maine Coon Cattery

also has dog[s]  fish   sometimes birds, all in a fairly small home.

There are top grade show critters involved.

She has about 8 litter boxes.

The problem is "pyo".

She also has problems with conjunctivitis, colds, etc. but obviously the
pyo is 
the biggie.

We are not sure of how the virus is transmitted. 
Sexually?
Litter box?
common drinking vessel?
sneezing or air born?
other or all the above?

What to do to prevent??
Is there a place for CS here??

I would greatly appreciate feedback on this!!!
davido

CS>ABOUT THE MME AND MORE

[David S Osborne]

THANKS to Dan for passing the MME info. Herz some links for the
N.C. org.
davido

http://www.healing-arts.org/index2.htm

http://www.healing-arts.org/children/cp/cpmagnetic.htm  about MME

http://www.healing-arts.org/hclinks.htm  a rich collection of
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CS>from Mercola.... may be a rerun

[David S Osborne]

from Mercola
Natural medicine has come under attack as pharmaceutical company
lobbyists push lawmakers to deprive Americans of the benefits of dietary
supplements. Drug-front groups have implemented slanderous campaigns in
attempts to undermine the value of natural health lifestyles. 
These attacks to natural medicine prompted an independent review of
government-approved medicine, which revealed that conventional medicine
was the leading cause of death in the United States. This review of
government health statistics showed that in most cases, American medicine
does more harm than good. Compelling evidence from this study unveiled
astounding statistics on the 783,936 deaths per year that have resulted
from conventional medicine. 
The purpose of this article was to memorialize the failure of the
American medical system by exposing the horrifying statistics of the
inadequacies of today’s health care system with the goal of beginning
some meaningful reform. 
Highlights from the findings in the review: 
U.S. health care spending has reached $1.6 trillion in 2003, which
represents 14 percent of the nation’s gross national product. 
In a 1992 survey, a national pharmacy database found a total of 429,827
medication errors from 1,081 hospitals. 
In 1974, 2.4 million unnecessary surgeries were performed that resulted
in 11,900 deaths compared to the year 2001, where 7.5 million unnecessary
surgeries were performed resulting in 37,136 deaths. 
A 1998 study reported an estimated 106,000 deaths from prescription
medications per year. 
Nearly 9 million people were unnecessarily hospitalized in 2001. 
Here are additional reasons why the traditional paradigm is flawed: 
Studies have found that the 41 million Americans without health insurance
have an increased risk for dying prematurely and not receiving
appropriate medical care. 
20 percent of all causes of death occur in nursing homes. 
More than 30 percent of nursing homes in the United States were cited for
abuses, exceeding over 9,000 violations. 
A study of a 100-bed sub-acute care hospital revealed that only 8 percent
of the patients were well nourished, 29 percent were malnourished and 63
percent were at risk of malnutrition. 
Life Extension Institute March 2004 

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---
Dr. Mercola's Comment: This definitive review of the conventional health
care system is a must-read because it describes in detail the failure of
the traditional paradigm and provides us with shocking statistics on the
thousands and thousands of deaths that resulted from unnecessary or
incorrect medical treatments. 
The only problem I have with this article is that the formatting is
really terrible and makes it difficult to follow. The Web site uses a
type of frame and you need to use the light blue bar on the immediate
right of the text to scroll down and reach the next page. However,
despite the formatting issue, I highly recommend reading this article. 
This article acts as yet another huge wake-up call by providing further
substantial evidence that the health care system is in desperate need of
drastic reform. Too many lives are being lost at the hands of
conventional medicine. 
The findings in this review also further reinforce my vision and passion,
which is to transform the medicine and surgery-bombarded medical paradigm
to one that focuses on treatment and prevention of the underlying causes.

I view this review as a very positive step toward fulfilling my vision
because it specifically outlines the blatant mistakes and failures of the
traditional system. 
The statistics from this review gives people even more reasons to explore
alternative and less evasive approaches to health care--such as educating
yourself with the information in my Total Health Program--to find out
what is truly going on.
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CS>Unidentified subject!

[David S Osborne]

for folks wanting to wash out, clean up the sinusz, see about the
Alkalol Nasal Douche Cup.  May be avail at a pharmacy near you. Is avail
"here" from Medichest. One of those things y'll wonder how y'ever got
along without.
An alternative is to move to Virginia Beach,  The Beach PROMISES to have
completely solved the "hayfevr",allergy,snooter problem!!!  ..it's
because the particulate will be tooo big to fit in your nose!!

davido

Your Price $3.79 
Item Number: K794008 
Package Details The Alkalol Nasal Douche Cup is specially designed with a
vertical nozzle to operate while your head is tilted slightly forward and
sideways. This position helps eliminate involving the middle ear.
Flushing the nasal tract with Alkalol Liquid using the Alkalol Nasal
Douche Cup can help alleviate head colds or chronic nasal conditions.
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CS>

[David S Osborne]

The Castor Oil Detox Program from Dr. David Williams 3/29 newzltr.
We have talked about COP's before, and a lot about detox:
davido

Dear Reader, 

I often remember my dad telling me that when he was growing up, his
mother was devoted to castor oil. At the first sign of illness in one
child, she would immediately give all the children a quick oral dose of
the stuff. There's no doubt it provided a rapid solution for
constipation, and it must have had a positive effect on my dad's memory
too, because he could vividly describe the taste and effect of the castor
oil many years later. 

Castor oil is a unique substance with an ancient history. Folk healers
the world over have used it to treat a wide variety of conditions. Castor
oil's effectiveness is probably due in part to its unusual chemical
composition—a triglyceride of fatty acids with almost 90 percent of that
fatty acid content consisting of ricinoleic acid. To my knowledge,
ricinoleic acid is not found in any other substance, and the high
concentration of this unusual, unsaturated fatty acid is thought to be
responsible for castor oil's remarkable healing abilities. 

Ricinoleic acid is effective in preventing the growth of numerous species
of viruses, bacteria, yeasts, and molds. (J Am Oil Chem Soc
61;37:323-325) It's successful as a topical treatment for ringworm,
keratoses, skin inflammation, abrasions, fungal-infected finger- and
toenails, acne, and chronic pruritus (itching). Generally, for these
conditions the affected area is wrapped each night in a castor oil-soaked
cloth. For persistent infections, a 10- to 20-minute pre-soak in Epsom
salts will generally speed healing. 

Set Your "Cytes" High 


While I find internal and topical uses of castor oil helpful, the most
beneficial use is in the form of castor oil packs. When used properly,
castor oil packs improve the function of the thymus gland and other areas
of the immune system. Two separate studies found that patients using
abdominal castor oil packs had significant increases in the production of
lymphocytes compared to those using placebo packs. 

Lymphocytes are the disease-fighting cells produced by your immune system
and housed mainly in lymphatic tissue—including the thymus gland, spleen,
and lymph nodes, as well as the lymphatic tissue that lines the small
intestine (called Peyer's patches). 

Several problems occur when lymph drainage slows and fluid accumulates
around cells. First, the individual cells are forced further and further
away from the capillaries. Next, the amount of oxygen and nourishment the
cells receive is decreased and, under exertion or stress, some cells may
die. Additionally, the cells are forced to try to survive in their own
waste and toxic byproducts, which can eventually lead to the degeneration
and destruction of organs. For example, poor lymphatic drainage of the
heart can lead to tissue damage and even heart failure. Similar problems
can occur in the liver, kidneys, and other organs. 

When castor oil is absorbed through the skin from packs, several
extraordinary events take place. The lymphocyte count of the blood
increases as a result of the oil's positive influence on the thymus
gland, lymphatic tissue, or both. The flow of lymph increases throughout
the body, speeding up the removal of toxins surrounding the cells and
reducing the size of swollen lymph nodes. The end result is a general
overall improvement in organ function with a lessening of fatigue and
depression. 

Additionally, as toxicity is reduced, the pH of the saliva becomes less
acidic, signaling improved health, and the Peyer's patches in the small
intestines more efficiently absorb fatty acids, which are essential for
the formation of hormones and other components necessary for growth and
repair. 

The Right Way to Do It 


Castor oil packs are an economical and efficient method of absorbing
ricinoleic acid and other healing components of castor oil directly into
body tissues. To make a castor oil pack you will need: cold-pressed
castor oil, a standard heating pad, a plastic garbage bag, two or three
1-foot square pieces of wool or cotton flannel, and a large bath towel. 

Start by placing the heating pad on a flat surface and turning the heat
to high. Lay the plastic garbage bag on top of the heating pad to protect
the pad. Saturate the flannel pieces with castor oil (about 1/2 cup) and
lay them on top of the garbage bag and heating pad. The entire pack can
now be placed against the body with the oil-soaked flannel against the
skin. For general conditions, the pack should be placed on the abdomen.
(For lower back problems place the pack on the site of the problem.) To
help hold the pack in place and prevent oil from getting on bedding, wrap
the pack and body in a large bath towel. Keep the pack in place for at
least one hour with the heating pad set at the highest temperature
tolerable to the patient. When you remove the pack, massage the remaining
oil into the skin or clean it off wit

CS>can i post this??

[David S Osborne]

How true this is 



A car company can move its factories to Mexico and claim it's a free
market. 

A toy company can outsource to a Chinese subcontractor and claim it's a 
free market. 

A major bank can incorporate in Bermuda to avoid taxes and claim it's a
free market. 

We can buy HP Printers made in Mexico. We can buy shirts made in
Bangladesh We can purchase almost anything we want from many different
countries 

BUT, heaven help the elderly who dare to buy their prescription drugs
from a Canadian (Or Mexico) pharmacy That's called un-American! And you
think the pharmaceutical companies don't have a powerful lobby? Think
again! 

(Please forward this to every person you know over age 50) I don't really
expect anyone to forward this. But it is an interesting point of view. 

Maybe this is an issue that should come up in the next election! 

Forget the 50, send it to everyone. We're all in this boat together.

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