RE: CS> Gaslighters

[abeland1]

Well Theresa, that's the whole point.  You have to throw away your generators 
and buy MESOsilver from them.  

 

 

From: Theresa Swift  
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 11:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Gaslighters

 

So how do we make CS instead of Ionic S in our generators?

 

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others,

 

CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions.

 

I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS 
colloidal silver over ionic silver.  (see below).

 

The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the gut 
lining, is fully discussed in this article.

 

https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/

RE: CS>the art of making AgCS and Ag NPcs etc

[abeland1]

Phil, (or is it really frank),

"pseudo-scientists"?

Oh really?

 

"Please read the article below to put the matter to rest for all time."

 

"to put the matter to rest for all time"

 

You have just revealed yourself as the real "pseudo-scientist".  A scientist 
would never claim to:

 

"put the matter to rest for all time"

 

Arnold

 

 

From: Phil Morrison  
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 9:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>the art of making AgCS and Ag NPcs etc

 

I note that the pseudo-scientists are back again on this Forum promoting ionic 
over colloidal silver.

 

Well, as I have argued on this Forum several times, only colloidal silver NPs 
kill pathogens efficiently.  NOT ionic silver.

 

Please read the article below to put the matter to rest for all time. 

 

https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/

RE: CS>Was the Whole Pandemic About the Vaccine? - LewRockwell

[abeland1]

Is anyone still on this list trying to get information on how to make colloidal 
silver properly?  If so, you might try going too:

  
https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/

No politics, no conspiracies and nothing for sale.

 

 

RE: CS>Was the Whole Pandemic About the Vaccine? - LewRockwell

[abeland1]

Is anyone still on this list trying to get information on how to make colloidal 
silver properly?  If so, you might try going too:

  
https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/

No politics, no conspiracies and nothing for sale.

 

 

From: Rick  
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2021 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Was the Whole Pandemic About the Vaccine? - LewRockwell

 

The point is, natural immunity is historically better than a man-made wanna-be. 
And if you've bothered to read the other info and not just believe the 
mainstream lies; 

1) getting the virus naturally has less than a 1% chance of killing you without 
treatment. 

2) if you've gotten the Experimental Vaxxine then your body is likely to 
forever be fighting itself. Let's hope you don't have any other health 
complications (comorbidities) when your T-Cells decide to wage an all-out war 
on what it thinks is an attack (the spike proteins you are now over-producing) 
thanks to your vaxx.

Thank you so much for volunteering yourself to be in the experiment. You are 
now on record in this, the largest experiment on mankind. Now we'll have 
resounding answers to our questions that they could not provide early on 
because there was no or little testing and little time to do so, because they 
wanted the experimental drugs made and administered "toot sweet". So we'll have 
those answers in the next 3-10 years. Unless of course, they insist on removing 
the mention of your yearly vaccination from your final outcomes. Which is what 
they are doing right now as the cases after the fact continue to rise.

 

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:31 PM Cyndiann Phillips mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

There is no way to know if having covid gives you permanent immunity or not. 
Another website full of lies.

 

Written  by Mercola who lies to make himself rich so there's that. 

 

Lew Rockwell is a white supremacist and Trump supporter. Lovely company!

 

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 9:52 PM Tipton Garland mailto:bucanee...@icloud.com> > wrote:


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/06/joseph-mercola/was-the-whole-pandemic-about-the-vaccine/


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RE: CS>

[abeland1]

Ode,

Remember Mike Monnet ?  He made some good contributions to our quest and I 
believe that shingles is what drove him.  The higher ionic value is really 
counts when we talk about transdermal application.

Best regards,

Arnold

 

 

From: Ode Coyote  
Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>

 

My 96 year old dad had shingles twice.

The first time, he went to the doc and it took 3 months to get rid of them..and 
they came back after a year or so.

That time, he drank a pint of 20 PPM EIS and kept a soaked cloth on the 
blisters for several hours.

He said the pain and itching was gone in 3 hours and in 3 days, he couldn't 
tell he had had shingles.

 

HIGHLY recommended: []..from personal 
experience and NO issue addressed that WASN'T gone by morning...if not sooner.

 

Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda into about 1/2 cup water

Drink it down, wait 10-15 minutes.

Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.

Repeat now and then.

 

What that does:

The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas [BURP ! ]

The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to flush the 
excess salt out with.

Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little or no 
stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:44 PM Neville Munn mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

What do you mean by "successfully"?  I've treated two family members, one by 
him ingesting 250ml home produced EIS a day, morning and night, ( and pain 
killers), when he had it on one side of his head and down to behind the ear, 
the other was around the midriff right around to the back (on one side).  To 
treat the second one I kept her shirt/singlet or whatever damp for days with 
EIS to minimize scarring as the blisters burst etc, 2 Nurofen pain killers for 
6 days, also she was still ingesting our morning ritual, around 20ml every 
morning before breakfast, swishing around in the mouth under the tongue of 
course.

 

>From the above, and from my experience, you have to just ride it out for a 
>fortnight or so, but, no scarring, one with no residual  pain upon recovery, 
>the other one had minimal residual pain (Postherpetic Neuralgia) for another 
>couple of weeks after recovery, (midriff), but her bout of Shingles was pretty 
>ugly I have to say.

 

N.

 

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From: cat4...@aol.com   mailto:cat4...@aol.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2021 3:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com   
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> >
Subject: CS> 

 


My friend has shingles and my question to all you knowledgeable people

.Has anyone ever treated shingles with C/S successfully?

RE: CS>Make your own HCQ

[abeland1]

Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2
 

https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilv...effect-of-silver-nanoparticles-on-sars
-cov-2/

 

From: Nenah Sylver  
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Make your own HCQ

 

Neville wrote: This Covid thing had apparently been 'spliced' or 'spiked'
from an earlier thing, (from bat shyte or something), to do with HIV years
ago, so, my question would be, then why not just treat this 'Covid' thing in
the same way as the age old Coronavirus (Flu) with EIS, using a Nebulizer
directly to deliver it to the lungs?  Research has shown that EIS has
efficacy on Viruses has it not?  Silver shows that it surrounds it and
passes through the cells unchanged, (not picking up any Protein that it
needs from the cell), and passes straight through?  Yes/No?

 



I concur with you, Neville. Nebulizing straight CS into my lungs (with
perhaps a single drop or oregano or thyme oil on occasion) does the trick.
Along with lots of Vitamin C, Quercetin and Zinc, if I want more systemic
relief.

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition

www.nenahsylver.com   

 

NEW Etsy Shop: Earth Riches

Handmade, one-of-a-kind jewelry

of semi-precious stones from the Earth

plus rare and unique vintage items

https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 

 

 

RE: CS>Why I use CS - And not EIS

[abeland1]

Very nice smooth talking history lesson but really nothing about ions versus 
particles. Here is my contribution to the subject:

 

https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/ionic-versus-particulate/

 

From: Phil Morrison  
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 9:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Why I use CS - And not EIS

 

Silver nanoparticles, and not ions, work best.   

 

https://www.silver-colloids.com/history-silver/

RE: CS>CS - Why CS Works Better

[abeland1]

https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/ionic-versus-particulate/

 

From: Phil Morrison  
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 9:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS - Why CS Works Better

 

 

 

Why CS works better than EIS

 

https://purevon.com/effectiveness

RE: CS>TDS meter

[abeland1]

Phil, 
The fact that you got the reading you did without putting it into water of any 
kind indicates that the unit is faulty. If it's not in water, it should read 
zero. Did you go to the link that I suggested?
https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/measure-it/

I have tried my best on that page to impart apologize can on the subject of the 
measurement of the PPM of the ionic portion of colloidal silver. Better called 
EIS. If I can improve the page, please tell me how.
Arnold

-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance  
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>TDS meter

Wow!  Are all your posts this inaccurate and critical? I've never heard of you 
before yet you tell me my thinking is flawed?
Didn't anyone every teach you manners???
And don't think you can send me another personal email because I just blocked 
you!
PT








On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 04:32:15 PM EST, Ed  wrote: 






PT:  There is no meter available to measure CS strength.  All you learn from a 
TDS meter is that you have something.   You should have tested your good meter 
in a sample of distilled water, reading would be 0-1 when you actually do the 
test.  Its seems you looked at the reading when turning on your meter, and not 
with a substance in between the test points.  Try testing the distilled water 
before saying you have a bad meter please.  Your reports on Rife devices have 
this same flaw in thinking- and your report they have a problem when in essence 
they don't.  To make sure you understand, you need to send your product to a 
lab that does measure the strength of what you call EIS, most of us keep it 
simple and call it CS.  This testing is very expensive.  Your ppm test only 
tells you that you have something, but has nothing to do with quality or 
quantity of CS

On 11/4/2020 1:17 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:


>  
> Thank you.  I am just looking for a way to measure the strength (ppm) of the 
> EIS that I make.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 06:00:54 PM EST, Phil Morrison 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are many meters and ways to measure water conductivity.  Once you have 
> a reading with one meter, that reading is easily converted to reading in any 
> other measurement system.
> 
> https://www.lenntech.com/calculators/conductivity/tds_engels.htm
> 
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RE: CS>TDS meter

[abeland1]

May I suggest that you purchase an EC meter? They are still less than $20 from 
eBay. If you're lucky, you'll get one that will have reasonably accurate 
absolute measurements at 50 PPM, plus or -10%. Discounting the absolute 
measurements, it will give you an indication of what's happening from one batch 
to the next.
As far as the particle size is concerned, color or the lack of is the key. That 
can be subjective and is best observed with a white surround.
The TDS meter is calibrated for sodium atoms. The meters came about as 
something the Chinese can sell to people with saltwater aquariums. For quite a 
while, that was all that was available. We found that if we multiply the TDS 
reading by two, we can have a pretty close reading for silver ions. When the 
manufacturers caught on to what we were using them for, they made them so that 
they also had a button to read electrical conductivity in microsiemens. All 
they're doing is multiplying the TDS reading by two. A lot of sellers of 
colloidal silver generators were sorry to see these become available. They were 
able to claim any PPM figure they wanted and tell people that to measure PPM, 
they would have to send their CS to a lab. Oh yes, and the labs did not know 
what they were doing, of course.
How's the color going?
https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/measure-it/

-Original Message-
From: PT Ferrance  
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 10:50 AM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>TDS meter

My first TDS meter just arrived.  It talks about calibration but with no 
directions as how to do this.  Since it is showing 862ppm and it has not been 
dipped into anything I am anticipating that this needs to be done.
Would someone point me in the right direction? I've searched but have not found 
good directions.
Thanks.
PT


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RE: CS>Tel's Silver Salve

[abeland1]

Hi Jean,

I am glad to hear that you are happy with your Atlasnova Ultra EIS generator. 
Here is a picture of the first batch of 50 ppm EIS four years ago.:

https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/

Notice that it is clear, no yellow. The website is a "work in progress." Thank 
you for the purchase and recommendation.

Best regards,

Arnold

 

From: Jean Baugh  
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 2:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Tel's Silver Salve

 

Hi,

 

I looked for a name on the device but only found a switch to make 10%, or 50%.  
Pretty sure the person who sold it to me is on this list; Atlas?

 

Anyway, it did the job I wanted it to and I highly recommend it.

 

Jean

 

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 4:21 PM PT Ferrance mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net> > wrote:

Thanks, Jean.  I have a SilverPuppy from Ode.  I hope he will respond.
Which device do you have that will make up to 50%?
PT

Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.






On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 04:02:20 PM EDT, Jean Baugh 
mailto:oldglorytexa...@gmail.com> > wrote: 





On the other hand, perhaps Tel had a machine that could make 40% CS.  I bought 
one that can make up to 50% CS.  Even if not, it sounds like the stronger the 
CS, the better.

Jean

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:51 PM Tony Moody mailto:a...@aptech.co.za> > wrote:
>  
>  
> On 17 Oct 2020 at 16:44, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> 
> Subject : CS>Tel's Silver Salve
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Before he died Tel sent me the formula for his Silver Salve.  This has been 
> the best salve ever and I am running out so I want to duplicate it.  I also 
> want to share the formula so it doesn't get lost to time...
> 
> 
> 
> Tel’s Silver Salve 
> 
> 
> 
> Super Silver Salve & 8 Oils
> 
> 40% Colloidal Silver
> 
> 50% Organic Beeswax- 
> 
> 
> 
> Only Trace amounts of all 8 oils (I'm thinking one drop of each except 
> Coconut Oil):
> 
> 1.  Coconut Oil
> 
> 2.  Emu Oil
> 
> 3.  Oregano Oil
> 
> 4.  Eucalyptus Oil
> 
> 5.  Frankincense Oil
> 
> 6.  Tea Tree Oil
> 
> 7.  Cedarwood Oil 
> 
> 8.  Immuno-Boost Oil - I don't know what this one is but I imagine that 
> something along the line of Young Living's Thieves should work.
> 
> 
> 
> My question to the Members of this group is, "How does one make 40% Colloidal 
> Silver (or EIS)?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> PT
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> Hallo PT,
> 
> 
> 
> I guess what Tel meant is to make up the mix using 40% of the usual EIS, ( 
> which will be in the order of 10pp to 13ppm ) 
> 
> 
> 
> So if you made a cup full; 
> 
> use half a cup of beaswax, 
> 
> almost half a cup of colloidal silver 
> 
> and add the drops of oil   
> 
> 
> 
> Hmm there must be some sort of method to be used to get the beeswax and 
> silver water to emulsify? then add the oils by stirring in ?
> 
> 
> 
> OK,
> 
> Tony
> 
> 


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[abeland1]

 

 

N. says:

"Eventually the List will be overrun and lose it's integrity."

 

That has happened many times in the 20  or so years that I have been on and
off the list.  I have seen many members come in, trying to contribute to
this effort and be driven off, labeled as "techies." My interest is in the
perfection of the methods of making colloidal silver. That is why I started
the following thread:

 

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silv
er-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/

It has integrity, and it will not be overrun. The moderators of GoldisMoney2
are tough old guys and stand for no-nonsense.

Arnold

Price

 

From: Neville Munn  
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 5:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Moderating

 

Hmmm, I can see why Off Topic won't work here.  There are many other Groups
available to discuss different modalities regarding health Alternatives, but
I can see it will rapidly bleed over into the Silver List.  I was referring
to exactly what you said Lola, quote: "Yes, the occasional political
statement/observation makes it's way into the conversation but it rarely
lasts very long and once in a while it really, really is pertinent."
Eventually the List will be overrun and lose it's integrity.

 

If people wish to discuss other modalities, it should be done on those
relevant "alternative" Groups or Platforms else the essence of the Silver
List will lose its long standing relevance and position.

 

Just my opinion.

 

N.

 

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From: phoenix23...@tds.net 
mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net> >
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 10:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> >
Subject: Re: CS>Moderating 

 

I must be totally weird but I LOVE OT.  lol... as long as it is about
alternatives.  Yes, the
occasional political statement/observation makes it's way into the
conversation but it rarely 

lasts very long and once in a while it really, really is pertinent..  What
does your momma 

say?  Don't talk religion or politics socially.

 

It is amazing the things I have picked up from various members in various
groups and

their willingness to share their experiences.  As a three time cancer
survivor, my eyes

are always open and my ear to the ground, eagerly waiting to hear about the
latest research

and/or findings.  And I do like alternatives that have some solid science
behind them

because it is the wild, wild west 'out there' and you have to be careful,
smart and always

do your due diligence and homework.

 

Lola

 

 

RE: CS>Hypothesis

[abeland1]

Journal of Applied MicrobiologyVolume 123, Issue 5
Here is an authoritative review documenting the effectiveness of silver. There 
is all the evidence that is needed here and none of it can be characterized as 
"anecdotal.":

https://sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10./jam.13525#jam13525-bib-0013

Of particular interest at this time would be the information of action against 
viruses:
"Antiviral activity of natural mineral silver in a variety of forms including 
colloidal silver has been demonstrated through nearly three decades of medical 
research (Fig. 2). It has been reported that silver can stop different types of 
viruses from replicating by merely binding to them. Recent research 
demonstrates that silver is so powerfully effective against viruses that it 
even stops the deadly HIV virus from infecting human cells. The vital 
requirement in order to exhibit such powerful antiviral activity is the size of 
the silver particles. Nanoparticles of size ranging from 1 to 100 nm are 
efficient as smaller size leads to more interaction and inhibition of viruses 
(Galdiero et al. 2011; Khandelwal et al. 2014). Silver nanoparticles undergo a 
size‐dependent interaction with HIV‐1 virus and nanoparticles in the size range 
of 1–10 nm were able to attach to the virus. The interaction is via 
preferential binding of AgNPs to the gp120 glycoprotein knobs which bear the 
exposed sulfur residues and inhibit the virus from binding to host cells in 
vitro (Elechiguerra et al. 2005)."
Careful reading will reveal that our quest to maximize the ionic portion of 
what we make has been the correct approach.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Deborah Gerard
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Hypothesis

There have been many posts about CS taking out the virus...check with previous 
posts.

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 11:34:39 PM EDT, Neville Munn  
wrote: 


LOL.  Well Dan, nobody else seems to know anything about it anyway, so perhaps 
it's best maintain your "physical distancing" ROFPMSL.  I need to speak with a 
virologist , there's never a virologist when you want one.

N.


From: Dan Nave 
Sent: Saturday, 16 May 2020 12:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Hypothesis 
 
I'm going to maintain "physical distancing" from this post...

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:24 PM Neville Munn  wrote:
OK, here's a hypothesis for this Covid crap and a couple of simple Yes/No 
questions.  I'm not a virologist or biochemist so these are simple questions.

A Virus, in this case Coronavirus, (which is the normal Virus we get every 
year, which we know had been 'manipulated' in a laboratory), is 'not living', 
so, when it enters a lung cell it then takes 'life' from that cell, then it 
multiplies, then it 'breaks' out of the cell as a 'living' cell/s and spreads.  
We know EIS will kill Viruses, so, if a Nebuliser is used, then the silver 
will/should kill that/those Corona cell/s...Yes/No?  If Yes, then whilst the 
silver 'vapour' is distributed throughout the lungs those lung cells become 
surrounded by the silver in the lungs, hence the Virus cannot enter the lung 
cell...Yes/No?  Eventually because the virus cannot enter the lung cells due to 
the cells being surrounded by silver, they should die by natural 
attrition...Yes/No?

If anyone can answer, KEEP IT SIMPLE please.

N.

RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Ode,
Fo r what it's worth:
"Ceasers Wife"
 L'esposa de Cèsar no només ha de ser honrada, sinó semblar-ho
This source is directly linked to Frank Key's Mesosilver business.
Just saying,
Arnold

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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:
What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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[abeland1]

Rich DiDonato, Quality/ISO Manager
Mutual Cornell Environmental
136 Corliss Street, Providence, RI  02904
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(401) 274-9990 (Telefax)
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From: Marshall
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Ode,
Fo r what it's worth:
"Ceasers Wife"
 L'esposa de Cèsar no només ha de ser honrada, sinó semblar-ho
This source is directly linked to Frank Key's Mesosilver business.
Just saying,
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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 6:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:
What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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[abeland1]

Marshall,
I used mutualcornell to test the 50 PPM made by my "ultra" generators.
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-6
You can deduce the particulate versus ionic ratio by the results before and 
after the addition of nitric acid.
Best regards,
Arnold


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From: Marshall
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CS>Difference between ionic silver and Ag4O4.

[abeland1]

noun: gobbledegook
language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of 
abstruse technical terms; nonsense.

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From: Phil Morrison
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re:CS>Difference between ionic silver and Ag4O4.

Ode Coyote

AgO and Ag4O4 are quite different molecules.  See below

"The device molecular crystal contains two mono and two trivalent silver ions 
capable of "firing" electrons capable of electrocuting the AIDS virus, 
pathogens and ISM. When administered into the bloodstream, the device electrons 
will be triggered by pathogens, a proliferating virus and ISM, and when fired 
will simultaneously trigger a redox chelation mechanism resulting in divalent 
silver moieties which chelate and bind active sites of the entities destroying 
them. The devices are completely non-toxic. However, they put stress on the 
liver causing hepatomegaly, but there is no loss of liver function."

RE: CS>conspiracy abounds

[abeland1]

Hello Bernadette,
Your frustration with the tendency of the silverlist to veer off-topic, 
entering the realm of lunacy, is well-founded. I believe that part of the 
reason for this is the limitation of the email listing system itself. The 
"list" system comes from the time before browsers were available, allowing for 
the organization of "forums."
I discovered a forum founded for those people who were interested in investing 
in precious metals. One of the subforums was devoted to colloidal silver. Some 
six years ago, I started a thread there entitled "the art of making colloidal 
silver."
It now has over 700 replies and 60,000 views. No commercial activity of any 
kind is allowed anywhere on this forum. There also threads about the various 
uses of colloidal silver. Have a look and let us know what you think:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Best regards,
Arnold

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From: Bernadette Burch
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>conspiracy abounds

Thank you. 
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On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Reid Harvey  wrote:

Greetings All, I have the greatest appreciation of the Silverlist and what we 
can do to support the understanding of CS but in my view there’s much too much 
here about conspiracy theory and the deep state, etc.  So much about these 
viewpoints is really simplistic as if to suggest predictable patterns.  That 
good and evil co-exist seems to be a fact of life that has been from time 
immemorial.
Do people here believe that FDR, Franklin Roosevelt was a good guy; a good 
president?  Look at the back of a one dollar bill and you’ll see something he 
was instrumental in putting there:  The pyramid and all seeing eye of the 
Illuminati.  It’s widely acknowledged that the Illuminati has been involved in 
a lot of conspiracy, but does this make FDR a bad guy?  It’s tiresome to read 
so much about conspiracy theory when we could be letting people know about the 
wonders of CS.

RE: CS>Most will test positive for "a" corona virus of some kind.

[abeland1]

Dave
Yes, only some of us. There's the rub.
Arnold

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From: Da Darrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Most will test positive for "a" corona virus of some kind.

Steve:
  They latch onto half truths and make scenarios that never happen but they 
have their day in the thought of the fools that believe them, then when it 
doesn't happen they ignore that and make up another story.
Some of us can see through the unadulterated crap that they spew.

Dave

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:09 PM Steve G  wrote:
I don't know what to say here.   There will be an election.  Trump is NOT the 
last POTUS, and lock down is temporary.  Everything has NOT been turned over to 
FEMA and the constitution has NOT been suspended.  We are not under FEMA 
command.  

And i do have plenty of food.   Plus plenty more at the grocery stores.   

I've viewed as much of that video as I could stand... the guy comes across 
as a conspiracy theorist.  Not the good kind that could conceivably be onto 
something, but one of your typical kooks that makes wild assumptions and is so 
very hungry to be part of something really big.

Steve




On Monday, April 6, 2020, 12:31:07 PM EDT, Ron  wrote: 


Oboyoboyoboy!
Just watched this. I view most of Mannarino's vids. Glad you didn't let me miss 
this one.
This poop is here to stay. There will be no election & Trump is the last POTUS. 
This country will be in lock down period.
If I heard right Trump said, in one appearance, that he had initiated 
(something or other) and had turned everything over to FEMA. If that is true 
then the constitution has been suspended and we are under FEMA command.
Got food?

Ron
On 4/5/2020 5:14 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Wear a badge if you are negative for the virus?
WEAR A MARK? A WCB President CALLING FOR FORCED, MANDATORY, UNIVERSAL COVID-19 
TESTING. Mannarino

RE: CS>subscribe

[abeland1]

There is a very knowledgeable group of people on this forum:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Everyone in the group is dedicated to making crystal clear EIS (electrically 
isolated silver)

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From: Joe Huard
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 11:30 AM
To: CS
Subject: CS>subscribe

I tried to subscribe to this list using http://www.silverlist.org

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RE: CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[abeland1]

There is a very knowledgeable group of people on this forum:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Everyone in the group is dedicated to making crystal clear EIS (electrically 
isolated silver)

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From: Williams
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 7:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Deborah Gerard
Subject: Re: CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy that can 
help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only made two 
batches both yellow.   Jut can't drink that.  So Ode told me how to avoid 
that.   But still can't seem to do what everyone else does with ease -- operate 
my Puppy.  I'm in the Bronx NY.   Koodyah gimme a call?  917 569-5256?   Just 
need some advice.    Gladys    PS  I'm so good at most stuff.  I don't know why 
I cant seem to get this right.
On February 22, 2020 at 12:26 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote: 
 
Awesome testimony for your client dying of lung cancer is a horrible way to go. 
I agree about these claims people are making that their product is the only way 
to to.

On Saturday, February 22, 2020, 04:58:16 AM EST, Victor Cozzetto 
 wrote:


I nebulize my own colloidal silver from my Silverpuppy.
I had a terminal stage 3/4 lung cancer client do the same, after two hospitals 
told her she had 6 to 12 weeks to live.
She was coughing blood when I met her.
She was in Hawaii on vacation 4 months later. No coughing.
I'm not worried about Coronavirus or any other diseases.
Sad to see other CS people trying to say their stuff is the 'only' one.
Just a bunch of FUD.
Victor



On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 5:36 PM Neville Munn < one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote: 
Hmmm, and from a personal perspective, why can't one use a nasal spray full of 
our 'home grown' silver I ask?  Here in Australia, they are talking about some 
propriety concoction administered via nasal spray...Well, what's new, I don't 
see any difference between "their" product and what we make in our homes?

N.
 


From: Dan Nave 
Sent: Saturday, 22 February 2020 3:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
 
https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/
 
  
Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat 
Coronavirus

 

RE: CS>Silver Research

[abeland1]

Hello Ken,
When we place an order with our refiner, we specify that a sample of our batch 
be sent to an independent laboratory for atomic absorption spectrophotometer 
analysis. It is performed to the accuracy of one part in 1 billion with all 
contaminants detailed. It is an extra $200 cost added to each order.
Best regards,
Arnold  509-720-0899   cell

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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 5:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research

 Arnold
I got a certification assay from Re-silver some 10 years ago and never since.
Nothing on the site available
How do you get them?
Ode


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 PM  wrote:
Yes, that is correct, and you should be sure to get a certificate of analysis 
with your purchase.
Best regards,
Arnold
 
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From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 6:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research
 
So it's . with 4 9's
 
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:49 PM  wrote:
https://www.atlasnova.com/products/
 
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
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From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research
 
I need to buy some silver wire for my home made cs maker. I can't remember if I 
need .999 or . wire?
 
Cyndi
 
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
Hi Phil,
I think you have been hacked...
PT
 
 
 
On Monday, January 27, 2020, 1:02:07 PM EST, Phil Morrison 
 wrote: 
 
 
FYI ..
 
https://rense.com/general68/kills.htm
 
 

RE: CS>Silver Research

[abeland1]

We must take every precaution we can to avoid taking toxic metals into our 
bodies. That is why we use only  silver wire and insist on a certificate of 
analysis showing the impurities that are present. In the case of the highest 
quality silver, the most significant contamination will be copper which is not 
bad in small amounts. That will be the case in silver that comes directly from 
silver ore. If you buy silver without an assay certificate, it could contain 
scraps from manufacturing facilities that are alloying silver with any number 
of other metals. So it's not just a matter of it being , but what is the 
nature of the additional .01%. When we make colloidal silver, the result is a 
liquid solution with silver in parts per million (PPM). It makes no sense to 
try to economize on this. If we consider making colloidal silver at a strength 
of 10 PPM, for example, 1 ounce of silver wire could make theoretically 100,000 
ounces or 1500 gallons of colloidal silver.
Zarathushtra: "With an open mind, seek and listen to all the highest ideals. 
Consider the most enlightened thoughts. Then choose your path, person by 
person, each for oneself."
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From: Neville Munn
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 6:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research

Hi Cyndi.

NO, you DON'T need 4x9 silver wire, and don't let anyone tell you  is what 
you *should* be using,  3x9 wire is fine.  I've been using it for over 15 
years, and plenty of people around the planet are using the same.  Research how 
much and what purities are in 999 silver from a Precious Metal Manufacturer, 
it's like 99.98% pure silver, the .02% is negligible for what you are 
producing.  As a home producer you are not ingesting 5 buckets a day of what 
you are producing.

If you want 999 silver, then that's fine, there is NOTHING wrong with 999 
silver!  If you want to pay more for  silver, then go for it, but you're 
throwing money away. (personal opinion)

N.


From: Cyndiann Phillips 
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2020 1:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research 
 
So it's . with 4 9's

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:49 PM  wrote:
https://www.atlasnova.com/products/
 
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research
 
I need to buy some silver wire for my home made cs maker. I can't remember if I 
need .999 or . wire?
 
Cyndi
 

RE: CS>Silver Research

[abeland1]

Yes, that is correct, and you should be sure to get a certificate of analysis 
with your purchase.
Best regards,
Arnold

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From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 6:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research

So it's . with 4 9's

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:49 PM  wrote:
https://www.atlasnova.com/products/
 
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research
 
I need to buy some silver wire for my home made cs maker. I can't remember if I 
need .999 or . wire?
 
Cyndi
 
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
Hi Phil,
I think you have been hacked...
PT
 
 
 
On Monday, January 27, 2020, 1:02:07 PM EST, Phil Morrison 
 wrote: 
 
 
FYI ..
 
https://rense.com/general68/kills.htm
 

RE: CS>Silver Research

[abeland1]

https://www.atlasnova.com/products/

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Cyndiann Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Research

I need to buy some silver wire for my home made cs maker. I can't remember if I 
need .999 or . wire?

Cyndi

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 1:27 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
Hi Phil,
I think you have been hacked...
PT



On Monday, January 27, 2020, 1:02:07 PM EST, Phil Morrison 
 wrote: 


FYI ..

https://rense.com/general68/kills.htm

RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

[abeland1]

Bob,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_toxicity
Arnold

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From: Robert Banever
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 5:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor


Arnold,

        I am using a device called "Copper-Zap".  It's a pure copper device 
that you insert into your nasal passage at the first sign of a cold.  You leave 
it there for 60 seconds.  I've never had any side effects that I can detect and 
it got rid of my cold symptoms promptly.  What happens to people who have 
copper pipes in their home?  They're ingesting copper ions daily, are the not?

Bob
-Original Message- 
From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Dec 7, 2019 9:14 PM 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor 
GM,
I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your body. 
Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack your liver.
For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver, no 
advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
Arnold
 
 
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From: nessie
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor
 
I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
immersed in the distilled water.
If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
would I have a better product? 
Silver/Copper combo?
Regardsgm
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RE: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

[abeland1]

GM,
I would strongly caution you against putting colloidal copper in your body. 
Copper is okay for doorknobs but not in your body, it will attack your liver.
For a great source of information on the art of making colloidal silver, no 
advertising or commercialization whatsoever, try going to:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Let Us know if you find the information they're helpful, I think you will.
Arnold


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From: nessie
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 6:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal copper/silver combor

I make  consistent batches of cs @ 10-15ppm, sometimes more.
I am wondering about colloid copper/health benefits?
I brew at about 30v for  8 hrs @  5ma.
My setup consists of 1oz of . silver , hung on
. silver hangers  * 4. My silver hangers are about 3-4 inches
immersed in the distilled water.
If I  were to use "hangers" of copper instead of the Silver hangers
would I have a better product? 
Silver/Copper combo?
Regardsgm
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and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: 
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CS>Why you should learn how to make colloidal silver

[abeland1]

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/why-you-should-learn-how-to-make-colloidal-silver.322827/

https://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/pdf/threats-report/2019-ar-threats-report-508.pdf

In March 1942, Mrs. Anne Miller of New Haven, Connecticut, was near death.* 
Infectious germs had made their way into her bloodstream. Desperate to save 
her, doctors administered an experimental drug: penicillin, which Alexander 
Fleming discovered 14 years earlier. In just hours, she recovered, becoming the 
first person in the world to be saved by an antibiotic. Rather than dying in 
her thirties, Mrs. Miller lived to be 90 years old. Today, decades later, germs 
like the one that infected Mrs. Miller are becoming resistant to antibiotics. 
You could have one in or on your body right now—a resistant germ that, in the 
right circumstances, could also infect you. But—unlike the bacteria that 
threatened Mrs. Miller—the bacteria may be able to avoid the effects of the 
antibiotics designed to kill them. Unfortunately, like nearly 3 million people 
across the United States, you or a loved one may face an antibiotic-resistant 
infection. This report from CDC, the second of its kind, presents data about 
the top 18 pathogens that require attention now. It emphasizes that antibiotic 
resistance is a One Health issue that can spread through people, animals, and 
the environment; threatens our most vulnerable friends and family members; and 
affects nearly every aspect of life. Given the chance, these germs will infect 
our bodies, take up residence in our healthcare facilities, contaminate our 
food and water supplies, and move across our communities and around the globe. 
This report shows us, however, that the fight against antibiotic resistance, no 
matter how complex, is not hopeless.

RE: CS>shingles

[abeland1]

Instructions for making one gallon of colloidal silver using our CSG-1G

https://www.atlasnova.com/csg-1g.pdf

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From: abela...@atlasnova.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 12:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>shingles

https://www.atlasnova.com/product/one-gallon-colloidal-silver-generator/

Instructions for making one gallon of colloidal silver using our CSG-1G

https://www.atlasnova.com/product/one-gallon-colloidal-silver-generator/

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From: Jean Baugh
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 11:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>shingles

Hi,

Would you please give a direct link for a gallon colloidal silver maker, that 
makes at least 20 ppm?  I will be in the market very soon.  I would like to see 
it.

My Mother had the worst case of shingles anyone had ever seen, because she had 
a light case and the doctors advised her to get a shingles shot.  Don’t believe 
those !  

Thank you,

Jean

***

On Nov 19, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Paul Steel  wrote:

I has a practitioner tell me yesterday that she had someone with shingles and 
FSM (Frequency Specific Microcurrent) worked really well on one of her 
clients...

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 2:02:30 PM EST,  wrote: 


this is from post number 176 on
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-5#post-1124042
I got a call yesterday from Paul, one of my first customers for the 1 gallon 
per day kit. He has been using the colloidal silver he makes from his unit to 
control his attacks of shingles for the past ten years. He tells me that when 
the sores and the pain start appearing, he starts spraying the breakouts 
repeatedly with the 20 PPM plus he makes with the unit. It always works for 
him. If he gets impatient and stops the process at a lower PPM, it simply 
doesn't work as well. I have heard this from many other Shingles sufferers. 
Apparently, it is a tough problem to deal with. People like Paul, with problems 
like his, should benefit greatly from the ability to make 50 ppm ionic reliably.
 

RE: CS>shingles

[abeland1]

https://www.atlasnova.com/product/one-gallon-colloidal-silver-generator/

Instructions for making one gallon of colloidal silver using our CSG-1G

https://www.atlasnova.com/product/one-gallon-colloidal-silver-generator/

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jean Baugh
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 11:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>shingles

Hi,

Would you please give a direct link for a gallon colloidal silver maker, that 
makes at least 20 ppm?  I will be in the market very soon.  I would like to see 
it.

My Mother had the worst case of shingles anyone had ever seen, because she had 
a light case and the doctors advised her to get a shingles shot.  Don’t believe 
those !  

Thank you,

Jean

***

On Nov 19, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Paul Steel  wrote:

I has a practitioner tell me yesterday that she had someone with shingles and 
FSM (Frequency Specific Microcurrent) worked really well on one of her 
clients...

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, 2:02:30 PM EST,  wrote: 


this is from post number 176 on
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-5#post-1124042
I got a call yesterday from Paul, one of my first customers for the 1 gallon 
per day kit. He has been using the colloidal silver he makes from his unit to 
control his attacks of shingles for the past ten years. He tells me that when 
the sores and the pain start appearing, he starts spraying the breakouts 
repeatedly with the 20 PPM plus he makes with the unit. It always works for 
him. If he gets impatient and stops the process at a lower PPM, it simply 
doesn't work as well. I have heard this from many other Shingles sufferers. 
Apparently, it is a tough problem to deal with. People like Paul, with problems 
like his, should benefit greatly from the ability to make 50 ppm ionic reliably.
 

RE: CS>shingles

[abeland1]

this is from post number 176 on
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-5#post-1124042
I got a call yesterday from Paul, one of my first customers for the 1 gallon 
per day kit. He has been using the colloidal silver he makes from his unit to 
control his attacks of shingles for the past ten years. He tells me that when 
the sores and the pain start appearing, he starts spraying the breakouts 
repeatedly with the 20 PPM plus he makes with the unit. It always works for 
him. If he gets impatient and stops the process at a lower PPM, it simply 
doesn't work as well. I have heard this from many other Shingles sufferers. 
Apparently, it is a tough problem to deal with. People like Paul, with problems 
like his, should benefit greatly from the ability to make 50 ppm ionic reliably.

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From: cat4...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>shingles


My friend has shingles.
Can that be treated with CS?
Or are there other natural treatments available?
I know absolutely nothing about this.
Thank you in advance for your response
Christel

RE: CS>information

[abeland1]

This video shows a way to make a cream which is 50% olive oil and 50% water. 
The water portion could be 50 ppm EIS produced from an Atlasnova Ultra 
CSGenerator. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gk...d=YPsJctUFfUo_id=annotation_966849
Zarathushtra: "With an open mind, seek and listen to all the highest ideals. 
Consider the most enlightened thoughts. Then choose your path, person by 
person, each for oneself."

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From: Jean Baugh
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 10:42 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>information

How about natural evaporation to make strong EIS solution?

Jean



On Nov 10, 2019, at 11:27 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

With EIS?  I'm trying to keep the water out of this since it is a salve and not 
a lotion.

If I were to make a strong EIS solution and then mix it with some oil and heat 
it to evaporate the water, would I harm the sliver remaining in the oil?

RE: CS>African swine fever virus - Wikipedia

[abeland1]

For those of you who would like to gain and perhaps exchange information about 
colloidal silver without having to suffer political viewpoints of whatever 
color, I suggest the following links:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/colloidal-silver-it-works.3017/
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver-kills-over-650-different-microbes.57176/
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Best regards,
Arnold Beland

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From: Da Darrin
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 8:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>African swine fever virus - Wikipedia

Obama did not have bone spurs!

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:39 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:
Boy when Trumps 5G is all in place even the animals will have cancer. People 
have to be brain dead to support a lying whore loving conman who golfs all the 
time on his BONE SPURS.

On Sunday, October 27, 2019, 04:13:30 PM EDT, Gmail  
wrote: 


Anyone trying silver to kill the virus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_swine_fever_virus

I support LGBT—Liberty, Guns, Bible, Trump.  —Anon

RE: CS>CS vs EIS

[abeland1]

I will resist my immediate inclination to declare this article as "tripe." 
Let's follow the money:
"Acknowledgements (their spelling)
Many have contributed time, effort and some providing financial aid and 
equipment during the past six years. 
Professor George Mass-(Colloidal Science Laboratories, )
and who does this gentleman belong to?
Purest Colloids, Inc. - Manufactures and sells a family of colloidal products 
called Mesocolloids. The colloidal products include Mesosilver, Mesogold, 
Mesocopper, Mesoplatinum and Mesopalladium. Other colloids can be produced by 
special order."
Need I say more?

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From: Phil Morrison
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 1:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS vs EIS


As you will read in the following article on best practices for producing CS, 
ionic silver can be toxic, caustic, and kill bacteria indiscriminately ... the 
good along with the bad.  Also, ionic silver is chemically reactive, and may 
not survive long "as is" in the body to any good purpose.

Use Colloidal Silver, people. 


https://www.longdom.org/open-access/colloidal-nano-silverits-production-method-properties-standards-and-its-bioefficacy-as-an-inorganic-antibiotic-2161-0398.1000130.pdf

RE: CS>True Colloidal Silver

[abeland1]

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
The purpose of the thread was, and remains, an effort to provide accurate, 
honest, and non-commercial information to those interested in making the most 
effective form of colloidal Silver.
The biggest problem with colloidal Silver is its name. If we call something 
colloidal, it merely means that it is held in suspension. For example, milk is 
colloidal butterfat. As it is homogenized, the fat particles will tend to stay 
in suspension because the particles have been agitated to the point where they 
are small enough to not combine and rise to the top.
Now, what does this have to do with making colloidal Silver? It's not hard to 
understand why we want the smallest possible particles of Silver. Let's face 
it. We don't want any more metal of any kind in our body other than that what 
we need to stay well or help to heal a wound or infection. For a given total 
weight of the metal, small particles will result in a much greater surface area 
than large particles. For Silver to have any effect on the microbe, it has to 
come into contact with that microbe. For the sake of simplicity, let's consider 
our particles as spheres. If our particle is 100 nm in diameter, it will weigh 
the same as about 10,000 1 nm particles. What would have a better chance of 
getting to the bacteria we want to kill? 10,000 or one?
"Colloidal silver" is sold with ratings of parts per million "PPM." This is the 
ratio of the weight of the water versus the weight of the Silver contained and 
suspended in the water. This measurement is made by the method of atomic 
absorption spectrophotometer. A sample is burned, and the light emitted 
includes spectral lines for Silver, the amplitude of which gives an indication 
of the parts per million, by weight. There is nothing in this method to 
distinguish between ions, "charged" particles and uncharged.
It is straightforward for unscrupulous manufacturers of colloidal Silver to 
make and advertise "colloidal silver" with strengths of 20, 30, 50, or 500 PPM. 
All they have to do is generate large particles and coat them with a substance 
lighter than water so that they will stay in suspension. These solutions will 
have a color as the larger particles will block out portions of the ambient 
light trying to shine through the water. The larger the particles, the more 
color, beginning with light yellow. There is no real evidence to suggest that 
these solutions will do you harm, leading to a condition called argyria. They 
should be avoided because they will be relatively much less effective than a 
solution of silver ions.
As you read through the thread, you will find numerous citations of serious, 
peer-reviewed studies illustrating the superiority of silver ions in killing 
bacteria to silver particles. The number of silver ions is measured in terms of 
electrical conductivity. When this thread started, the only instruments with 
the ability to measure this were quite expensive. The price of these has come 
down to a fantastic degree. An instrument capable of measuring ionic PPM within 
one or two ppm is now available on eBay for less than $10. If you're going to 
make colloidal silver "ionic" one of these should be the first thing that you 
purchase. The second thing is to make sure of is that you get genuine  pure 
silver wire with a certificate of analysis from a reputable source. Other than 
that, all you need is a voltage source and a resistor to limit the current. A 
multimeter with the 2 V scale and an additional 1K resistor will allow you to 
measure your current in microamps. That is all you need to make perfect, clear 
colloidal Silver. With a certain amount of experimentation, you will be able to 
make your colloidal Silver of a quality equal to the offerings of commercial 
manufacturers.

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From: Neville
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>True Colloidal Silver

The thing is, the home made product using LVDC is NOT a true colloidal silver 
product, by any dictionary definition of a colloidal product, in this instance 
a metallic colloidal product.  I'd have to wade through my literature on the 
subject by him, and others, however, Gibbs died in 2012, before he could 
actually complete his book, to my knowledge, so we don't know what he would 
have said regarding the subject further had he not died.

As I have always said, I have my opinions, especially when it comes to "true 
colloids" in this instance, everyone else can discuss/debate and/or argue what 
constitutes "true colloidal silver".

N.

From: Phil Morrison 
Sent: Sunday, 22 September 2019 10:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>True Colloidal Silver 
 
True colloidal silver is filled with mostly nano-particles (not ions), thus 
providing the optimum active surface area per unit of silver, and has a light 

RE: CS>True Colloidal Silver

[abeland1]

Silver nanoparticles versus silver ions?

Li W.-R., Sun T.-L., Zhou S.-L., Ma Y.-K., Shi Q.-S., Xie X.-B., Huang X.-M. A 
comparative analysis of antibacterial activity, dynamics and effects of silver 
ions and silver nanoparticles against four bacterial strains. Int. Biodeterior. 
Biodegrad. 2017;123:304–310. doi: 10.1016/j.ibiod.2017.07.015. [CrossRef] 
[Google Scholar]
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0964830517306406
Although both silver ions and silver nanoparticles (AgNPs) have perfect 
antibacterial activity, but it was assumed that AgNPs have stronger activity 
than that of silver ions. In this study, we make a comparative analysis of 
activity, dynamics, and effects of silver ions and two types of AgNPs against 
four bacterial strains. The minimum inhibitory concentrations (MICs) of silver 
ions, AgNPs (I) and AgNPs (II) were 0.5, 1 and 2 μg/mL against E. coli, 1, 2 
and 8 μg/mL against P. aeruginosa, 1, 2 and 4 μg/mL against S. aureus, and 1, 2 
and 2 μg/mL against S. epidermidis respectively. This experimental results 
showed that Ag+ have stronger antibacterial activity than that of AgNPs (I) and 
AgNPs(II). Antibacterial dynamic curves revealed all the silver ions, AgNPs 
(I), and AgNPs (II) prolonged the growth lag phase of all four bacteria in a 
concentration-dependent manner. Furthermore, transmission electronic microscopy 
(TEM) observation showed that a major part of bacterial cells treated with 2 
μg/mL of silver ion and AgNPs were destroyed within 5 h. The transmission 
electron microscopy (TEM) observation indicated that all the silver ions, AgNPs 
(I), and AgNPs (II) can induce severe damage in bacterial cells. The flagella 
of bacteria were damaged or even eliminated, which would cause movement 
disorders. Many holes or gaps were observed on cell surfaces, which would cause 
the leakage of cytoplasm and macromolecules, and leading to cell death at last. 
Our results suggested that silver ions have similar action mode and slightly 
better antibacterial activity than that of AgNPs against bacterial cells.
Zarathushtra: "With an open mind, seek and listen to all the highest ideals. 
Consider the most enlightened thoughts. Then choose your path, person by 
person, each for oneself."

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From: Phil Morrison
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>True Colloidal Silver

True colloidal silver is filled with mostly nano-particles (not ions), thus 
providing the optimum active surface area per unit of silver, and has a light 
golden color. 

EIS is a clear silver solution mostly filled with ions (not particles), which 
results in a lower health efficiency value per unit of silver than in true 
colloids. 

The difference between true colloids and solutions is very well explained in 
the article following:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html?partner=37

RE: CS>Atten: Ode

[abeland1]

N,
Your stance on the matter is shared by the vast majority of the world's 
population. For myself, I try very hard not to have an "opinion" about 
anything. I am concerned with what I don't know. For me, living is learning. 
You are probably happier.

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From: Neville
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 7:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode


I'm not interested, or bothered, to look at any 'post numbers'.

I got nothing to sell, I only hand out 'opinions', for free, so I won't even 
discuss/debate it, so you're on your own mate .

N.

From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2019 11:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CS>Atten: Ode 
 
you may find post number 380 at:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10
of interest.
It is shown that EIS at 15 PPM left some species of pathogens still alive while 
at 30 PPM all were killed. Extrapolating from this, 50 ppm would be even more 
effective.
 
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RE: CS>Atten: Ode

[abeland1]

you may find post number 380 at:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10
 of interest.
It is shown that EIS at 15 PPM left some species of pathogens still alive while 
at 30 PPM all were killed. Extrapolating from this, 50 ppm would be even more 
effective.

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From: Deborah Gerard
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode

Same here Neville...been taking about 3 oz's daily for fifteen years. I am 
never ever sick with anything who can say that today? No UIT'S, no kidney 
issues, no sinus issues, no colds, no food poisoning, no shingles. If it 
destroyed the good bacteria in the gut one would assume one would get sick all 
the time. My cat has been getting it for ten years too...never even an eye 
infection. Stuff is awesome.

On Thursday, September 19, 2019, 10:03:59 PM EDT, Neville 
 wrote: 


Maybe those who only take this stuff for certain reasons may want 50ppm, 
whereas I ingest a small amount of 10-15ppm *every* morning before breakfast.  
Been doing this for over 15 years now. Although I have to say 'ppm' is a bit of 
"rough" indication as we all know, but near enough for me on a meter.  One 
Professional at a Hospital said, when I had my brain bleed 4 years ago, 
remarked my blood is low in Antigens (at that time).  I am led to believe this 
means my blood doesn't contain a lot of 'bad bugs'?  So, I will continue 
ingesting my product every day until my "use by date" is reached .

N.

From: Reid Harvey 
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2019 11:46 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode 
 
What additional benefit is there at 50 ppm?

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:30 AM  wrote:
Ken, check out:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
I have been making a generator that reliably produces 50 ppm ionic, clear as a 
bell, for over two years. I know you would be very welcome on that forum as 
many of the members have your silverpuppy and are very happy with it.
Regards,
Arnold
 
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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode
 
About right.
Almost everyone can go to 20 PPM with a good gen and decent water, but at 30 
and over it gets really touchy.
Extra super saturated solutions are not very stable...even air becomes an enemy.

RE: CS>Atten: Ode

[abeland1]

Ken, check out:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
I have been making a generator that reliably produces 50 ppm ionic, clear as a 
bell, for over two years. I know you would be very welcome on that forum as 
many of the members have your silverpuppy and are very happy with it.
Regards,
Arnold

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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 4:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode

About right.
Almost everyone can go to 20 PPM with a good gen and decent water, but at 30 
and over it gets really touchy.
Extra super saturated solutions are not very stable...even air becomes an enemy.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:13 PM  wrote:
What we strive for when making our colloidal silver are the smallest possible 
particle size and the highest ionic PPM value. We must face the fact that the 
level of quality that we will be able to obtain will depend on the water with 
which we start. Even a generator capable of producing a clear 50 PPM solution 
will on occasion create a product with a slight, very slight, yellow tinge. 
That is inevitable and is the case in using the 50 PPM "ultra" of my design. 
Atlasnova uses the ultra generators to produce the bottled 50 PPM product but 
uses a double-distilled starting water to make sure this does not happen.
 
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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode
 
Yup, sounds normal to me.
ode
 
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:18 AM Neville  wrote:
Clear, yellowish, or even golden, it's all good to me, perhaps I just don't 
drink as much as I usually day each morning if it's golden.
 
That's my take on it, even though your question was directed to someone else.
 
N.

From: Melody Stobbe 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 1:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode 
 


I am using my new generator, series 3 I believe. My CS appears to be yellowish 
in color. Am I doing something wrong? Usually it is clear sometimes just a tint 
of silver color if really strong.
 
Thanks
 
 

RE: CS>Atten: Ode

[abeland1]

What we strive for when making our colloidal silver are the smallest possible 
particle size and the highest ionic PPM value. We must face the fact that the 
level of quality that we will be able to obtain will depend on the water with 
which we start. Even a generator capable of producing a clear 50 PPM solution 
will on occasion create a product with a slight, very slight, yellow tinge. 
That is inevitable and is the case in using the 50 PPM "ultra" of my design. 
Atlasnova uses the ultra generators to produce the bottled 50 PPM product but 
uses a double-distilled starting water to make sure this does not happen.

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From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 1:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode

Yup, sounds normal to me.
ode

On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 4:18 AM Neville  wrote:
Clear, yellowish, or even golden, it's all good to me, perhaps I just don't 
drink as much as I usually day each morning if it's golden.

That's my take on it, even though your question was directed to someone else.

N.

From: Melody Stobbe 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 1:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Atten: Ode 
 


I am using my new generator, series 3 I believe. My CS appears to be yellowish 
in color. Am I doing something wrong? Usually it is clear sometimes just a tint 
of silver color if really strong.

Thanks

RE: CS>Puzzled

[abeland1]

Why not let whomever you bought it from know that you're having a problem? 
Don't they have a phone number? Technical support?

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From: Melody Stobbe
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 9:29 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Puzzled

Jean I have the same issue with my new one, and have gone back to the old one 
more frequently. I do see the water, I buy the best distille water not from the 
grocery store, directly from Ideal Water, and still use the lazer. I have done 
all the usual maintenance checks.

Be safe


On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:17 AM Deborah Gerard  wrote:
Do you seed your batch? Use some from the previous batch and add to the new to 
make the brewing go faster? Do you have a warranty on your device? Hope you 
find out what the problem is...did you test your water with a TDS tester before 
you tried to make it?

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 2:54:39 PM EDT, Jean Baugh 
 wrote: 


Hi,

I have a nearly new colloidal silver machine and one that is nearly worn out 
from all the many gallons it has made.  I’ve only been using the new machine 
for awhile now, merely switching it over to another glass jar when the first 
one is finished.  I used to check the laser beam but quit some time now.  
Everything is the same, water brand, machine same, glass jars same, laser light 
the same…. but suddenly yesterday, when I nonchalantly checked to see how 
strong the laser beam was, there was no beam going through either jar, even 
though the machine is automatic and set as high as it will go.  The newest 
machine seems to go through all the right motions and time, then shuts off, but 
no beam.

Does anyone have a theory as to what might be wrong?

I cranked up the old machine but it will take days to find out if it makes a 
beam.

Even if the old machine works, this will not explain the new machine.

Thank you,

Jean Baugh




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RE: CS>SUBSCRIBE

[abeland1]

Hello Deborah,
Could you tell me how I can get the archives for the CS list?
I need all the wisdom I can get.
Arnold

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From: Deborah Gerard
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 8:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>SUBSCRIBE

Greetings Ruthlittle quite here lately but we have some awesome archives 
you can read from if you wish.

On Tuesday, September 3, 2019, 07:57:17 PM EDT, Ruth Bertella 
 wrote: 


 

RE: CS>Free ebook on curing autism

[abeland1]

Good advice is hard to come by. Most of it will come from people who are trying 
to sell you something. You must consider that fact. Many of these advice givers 
have started their own so-called "Forums" to promote their ideas and therefore 
their sales. As they control these forums, they will receive no criticism. It 
is not unusual to see them publishing "reviews" of competitors products. There 
is only one place I know of where you can get some advice on this, and that is 
the "goldismoney2" forum. There is an alternative health section where you can 
get lots of advice, good and bad. It will, as always, be up to you to separate 
the wheat from the chaff. Good luck.
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/

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From: Carlene Yasak
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 1:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Free ebook on curing autism

Nenah, 
The links you gave are no longer valid.  They've been taken down.
Thanks for trying.
Carlene 


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RE: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" IsQuietly Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge

[abeland1]

https://academic.oup.com/mmy/article/48/3/498/1199136

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From: Neville
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 4:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" 
IsQuietly Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge

Well, we will never know I guess.  Unless the Biochemists and other Lab rats in 
the Pharmaceutical business come up with some protocol and secret squirrel 
concoction they can push in the Media, whereby is will be pushed onto people 
who, or are, the great brain washed morons on this planet.

Of course, as we all know, if there is anything else outside of mainstream will 
be bunkum, 

N.


From: Gmail 
Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" Is Quietly 
Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge 
 
CS for cure?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-06/mysterious-drug-resistant-germ-deemed-urgent-threat-quietly-sweeping-globe

Western culture today consists of pornography, sexual deviants, whining wimps 
devastated by mere words, self-hatred, and craven cowards afraid to stand up 
for themselves against the onslaught of hate directed toward them by political 
correctness freaks.   — Paul Craig Roberts

RE: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" Is Quietly Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge

[abeland1]

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-11#post-1613298

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From: Gmail
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 4:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" Is 
Quietly Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge

Ive been using turpentine/coconut oil  to rid myself of a candida infection 
that returns yearly
Western culture today consists of pornography, sexual deviants, whining wimps 
devastated by mere words, self-hatred, and craven cowards afraid to stand up 
for themselves against the onslaught of hate directed toward them by political 
correctness freaks.   — Paul Craig Roberts



On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Neville  wrote:
Well, we will never know I guess.  Unless the Biochemists and other Lab rats in 
the Pharmaceutical business come up with some protocol and secret squirrel 
concoction they can push in the Media, whereby is will be pushed onto people 
who, or are, the great brain washed morons on this planet.

Of course, as we all know, if there is anything else outside of mainstream will 
be bunkum, 

N.


From: Gmail 
Sent: Sunday, 7 April 2019 8:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Mysterious Drug-Resistant Germ Deemed An "Urgent Threat" Is Quietly 
Sweeping The Globe | Zero Hedge 
 
CS for cure?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-06/mysterious-drug-resistant-germ-deemed-urgent-threat-quietly-sweeping-globe

Western culture today consists of pornography, sexual deviants, whining wimps 
devastated by mere words, self-hatred, and craven cowards afraid to stand up 
for themselves against the onslaught of hate directed toward them by political 
correctness freaks.   — Paul Craig Roberts

RE: CS>OT

[abeland1]

38.6 

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From: PT Ferrance
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:26 AM
To: Silverlist Post
Subject: CS>OT

This is almost embarrassing to admit except I am so long away from algebra...  
I am tincturing using a new device which requires a minimum of 2 cups of liquid 
but 3 is better so that is what I am using.

The problem is:  if I combine 8oz of 40% ethanol (80 proof) with 8oz of 76% 
ethanol (153 proof) and then add 8oz of distilled water, what percentage of 
ethanol will the final 3 cups be?  

I'm blushing to even have to write this but I have to get this project done and 
the final amount of ethanol needs to be known.  I would really appreciate 
understanding how to get the final answer so I can just make adjustments going 
forward.

Thanks for any help you can give.
PT

RE: CS> Interesting Information

[abeland1]

I have a customer in England who is told me that he is using water purchased on 
eBay UK from AC pure rated at >1ohms conduct/resistivity.   They describe this 
as   grade 1  type 3 water. He uses this with my Ultra half gallon generator 
and successfully makes 50 ppm EIS with it.

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From: s...@asis.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 2:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS> Interesting Information

Nice!  TNX Ken,  Malcolm

On 2019-03-04 07:24, Ode Coyote wrote:
> I have heard that  auto parts shops carry "battery water" which is
> distilled water, but not sterilized for human consumption.
> If making EIS with it doesn't sterilize it, why bother making EIS
> ...right?
> 
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 11:33 AM K.A.Wright
>  wrote:
> 
>> Actually, I'm in Scotland , we voted to stay in. Yes distilled
>> water has to be ordered and you have to be careful that it states
>> steam distilled. Obviously it's costly when you include the delivery
>> but I wouldn't try using anything else in th *pup* However if the
>> tap water is not guaranteed safe for drinking (I'm not thinking
>> permanently but since the chemicals used in the treatment plants
>> can't be stockpiled due to short shelf life, then they're may be
>> temporary disruption due to the bottlenecks at Dover) then you
>> reckon it would take a full cup of EIS to a gallon would make it
>> safe to drink? I've tried googling it but get so many conflicting
>> answers
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Kirsteen
>> 
>> On 3 March 2019, at 17:00, Sandee George  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Mr Wright when I used to make EIS in England, the problem with
>> the water was getting distilled water, there was only one place I
>> found in those years which was good enough for making EIS in my
>> book.I have never used the tap water to make the product over
>> there, however if you have water to use that is not chlorinated then
>> one cup + of EIS in the water, let us use a gallon for this process.
>> will be enough to do the job. If England gets to the point where
>> you have no water then I suggest you leave and move somewhere else.
>> In my opinion there will not be the problems everyone is talking
>> about if Britexit does come through, no matter which form that
>> happens in, it is all hype ! I remember when
>> some 40 years ago there was the decision to go with the EU,  then it
>> was strongly though mad to do so,  so reversing it after all these
>> years has become more complex due to the rules and regs which have
>> been put in place over the years - however life goes on with very
>> little change so good luck to you all !
>> 
>> Peace, love, good health, blessings & cheers to all
>> Sandee
>> An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
>> oha...@juno.com & or
>> san...@spiceisle.com
>> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops


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RE: CS> Interesting Information

[abeland1]

I wonder why they don't state what this marvelous machine produces in terms of 
ionic PPM. I guess they're unaware that by this time, anyone willing to spend 
that much money and time to make colloidal silver will purchase an EC meter for 
less than $10 on eBay or Amazon. But, as PT Barnum said, there is one born 
every minute.

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From: Phil Morrison
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 6:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS> Interesting Information

Especially comments on the 2nd page:


https://www.honeycolony.com/article/amazing-benefits-of-silver/

https://www.honeycolony.com/shop/colloidal-silver-healer/

CS>Is this stupidity or depraved indifference?

[abeland1]

silver-list@eskimo.com

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The use of colloidal silver as a topical antiseptic and general health aide has 
gained a considerable degree of acceptance in the past few years. When someone 
mentions the use of colloidal silver on a health forum, we no longer see the 
immediate cacophony of blue man, silver is toxic, Rosemary Jacobs and so forth. 
For those of us who have attempted to encourage the use of silver instead of 
antibiotics should be inspired by this. Unfortunately, the Internet and sites 
such as eBay and Amazon provide an opportunity for those who either don't know 
or don't care about how to make colloidal or ionic silver properly. There is a 
seller on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Colloidal-item3ab7b323c1

This guy is selling a "colloidal silver generator" for $9.97. eBay says he has 
sold 740 of these units. The kit consists of one thin strip of silver. He 
instructs people to use a stainless steel bowl and hook up the positive 
terminal of the battery array to the silver strip and the negative of the 
battery to the stainless steel bowl. There is nothing in his system to prevent 
people from hooking up positive to the steel bowl and negative to the silver. 
Even if everyone would read the instructions, which anyone in business will 
tell you is not the usual case, a significant portion of the customers will, at 
some point, do the opposite. Then they will start making colloidal "God knows 
what." That will cause those who ingest what they have made real problems. I 
have no doubt that among those 740 people who have bought this unit, there are 
those who have done themselves actual harm. What is in stainless steel?
Basic Ingredients in Stainless Steel
Iron - Very strong, very corrosive. ...
Chromium - Highly non-corrosive. ...
Nickel - Soft, some corrosion resistance. ...
Manganese - Binds steel alloys together, reducing brittleness and cracking.
Copper - Soft, conducts heat and electricity. ...
Carbon - Strong, corrosive."
I reported the item to eBay as a "Prohibited and restricted items."
Today I came across a 1-gallon unit using the same method:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Colloidal-.c15.m1851
it gives the same instructions, and I quote:
"One Gallon-Sized Stainless Steel Bowl - Make Sure It's Big Enough To Put Your 
Distilled Water In!
3 9-volt Batteries, or a 20-30 volt Power Supply - Connect The Positive End To 
The Silver, and The Negative End To The Bowl."
There is nothing here to prevent the user from connecting the positive battery 
terminal to the metal bowl and the negative terminal to the silver strip. When 
this is done, and it will be. Colloidal and ionic compounds will be entered 
into solution in the water, but they will be anything but silver. And they will 
be harmful. I'm sure there will be people who will use an aluminum bowl as well.
Anyone with any experience in designing user interfaces will tell you that 
people just don't pay attention to instructions, period. The readers of this 
thread have educated themselves regarding colloidal silver to the extent that 
they would not be endangered by this product offering.
One reply to the "depraved indifference" thread was: 
"Perhaps the eBay seller is an agent of big pharma trying to muddy the waters. 
There is a group of people who operate that way..."
I can imagine the following scenario. The seller claims he has sold over 1000 
of these units on eBay. If this is so, I am sure that hundreds of people have 
already injured themselves to some extent. Enter hungry lawyers. Class-action 
lawsuits. The injunction to reveal the names and addresses of customers of 
these units. Pet owners sue on behalf of their cats and dogs. The entrance of 
FDA to save the health and well-being of the poor, bewildered and confused 
consumers. A ban on all colloidal silver preparations and paraphernalia the 
manufacturer ups such. While I might appear to be waxing lyrical on this 
matter, I can tell you that Atlasnova has customers in the EU who have asked us 
not to mention colloidal silver in the documentation for customs purposes.

RE: CS>Fwd: Colloidal Silver vs EIS Silver

[abeland1]

Hello Phil,
That is a fascinating observation/theory. Please have a look at the following 
link:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10
Scroll down to post number 366. The explanation offered of the interactional 
oxygen and silver particles in that post an illustration would tend to support 
your statements. I'm sure you would be welcomed as a member of the forum, and 
your comments would be welcome.
Arnold


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From: Phil Morrison
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Fwd: Colloidal Silver vs EIS Silver



-- Forwarded message -
From: Phil Morrison 
Date: Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:20 PM
Subject: Colloidal Silver vs EIS Silver
To: Phil Morrison 


EIS produces silver ions, which carry a positive valence charge of +1.  LVDC 
produces metallic silver nano-particles (AgNP), which carry a Zero valence 
charge.   

Chemically speaking, ions react and combine with other chemical ions to form 
molecules.  The metallic silver nano-particles in CS do not combine with other 
chemicals, but catalyze oxygen to an active form that oxidizes (kills) 
pathogens and other foreign materials in the body.  

Homo sapiens developed over the eons in the environment with silver and oxygen 
and quite naturally learned to tolerate these chemicals, and even use them to 
survive.   Pathogens on the other hand are relative newcomers to the body's 
chemistry, and are considered foreign bodies to be eliminated.   Thus, natural 
human cells are protected from active oxygen while pathogens are not.  

Whenever the body lapses into a state of oxygen deficiency, conditions are ripe 
for the development of illness, infections, pathogens, and even tumors. 

CS>The Art of making Colloidal Silver / Electrically Isolated Silver

[abeland1]

There are three factors that will determine the quality of the colloidal silver 
that you make. The first is the water that you use. It must be distilled to a 
high degree of purity. You will need some way to check that the water you are 
using is pure enough. The distilled water that is sold in grocery stores in 
1-gallon containers will generally be good enough. You will still need some way 
to check it. That can be done with a conductivity meter or by some method 
included in the design and function of whatever generator we use.

The second factor is the purity of the silver that we use. We want silver ions 
and preferably no other metals. We want to make a solution containing silver 
ions, as they are proven to be of great benefit. There are many other metals. 
However, that can do us great harm. We must take every precaution we can to 
avoid taking toxic metals into our bodies. That is why we use only  silver 
wire and insist on a certificate of analysis showing the impurities that are 
present. In the case of the highest quality silver, the largest impurity will 
be copper which is not bad in small amounts. That will be the case in silver 
that comes directly from silver ore that is refined directly. If you buy silver 
without an assay certificate, it could contain scraps from manufacturing 
facilities that are alloying silver with any number of other metals. So it's 
not just a matter of it being , but what is the nature of the other .01%. 
When you consider the fact that when we make colloidal silver, the result is a 
liquid solution with silver in parts per million (PPM), it makes no sense to 
try to economize on this. If we consider making colloidal silver at a strength 
of 10 PPM, for example, 1 ounce of silver wire could make theoretically 100,000 
ounces or 1500 gallons of colloidal silver.

The third factor is the amount of time that we allow the process. Hydrogen will 
appear at the cathode (the negatively charged electrode, where electrons enter 
the water), and oxygen will appear at the anode (the positively charged 
electrode). Back in the days of the 3 9 V battery and coins, we would wait 
until we saw a cloud of what we were told were pieces of silver forming in the 
water and stopping the process soon after that. In reality, the cloud formed by 
hydrogen and oxygen micro bubbles and meant that the process was in a runaway 
mode. Disconnecting the batteries at that point would, if you were lucky, get 
you perhaps a five PPM colloidal silver solution. It would not keep its 
strength for very long as the larger particles would quickly collide with and 
absorb the silver ions. A few of us promoted the use of current limiting to 
prevent the runaway condition. Some of us noted that the higher resistance we 
used, the better results we obtained in both higher PPM and stability. Many of 
us, including yours truly, tried every conceivable method of stirring to allow 
the use of a higher current to speed up the process. All of my efforts in this 
direction failed. I could not get around the fact that for a given surface area 
of silver anode only a certain amount of current was allowed. There is a region 
surrounding the anode called the Nernst diffusion area. To put it simply, it is 
a region that will only allow a certain density of ions to exist before they 
agglomerate into larger particles. So for those of you with your setups for 
making colloidal silver, try reducing the current and allowing more time and 
let us know the results.
The above is the first post in the thread that I started on the following forum:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
This thread was started five years ago and has 378 replies and 38,000 views. No 
commercial activity is allowed on this forum. All are welcome to participate. 
No one is going to try to get you to buy anything from anyone in this thread. 
Its sole purpose is to promote the safe and effective production of colloidal 
silver by a person in their home.
Abeland1Sent from Mail for Windows 10

RE: CS>EIS and beneficial organisms and pathogens

[abeland1]

Sandee says,
"it is broken down and assimilated into the bloodstream in the stomach, which 
is why the ppm for good use of this product is recommended at between 5 - 10 
ppm - this is because at this size it can traverse the cell walls and do the 
best job it can do without direct contact to any pathogens in the blood 
stream " 
This would be an argument made by a manufacturer simply did not know how to 
make a fully ionic solution of greater strength than 5 to 10 ppm. It is 
nonsensical. The EC PPM measurement reflects the number of ions in a given 
amount of water. An ion is a single atom of silver missing one electron. There 
is nothing smaller that is still silver.
Arnold
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/

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From: Sandee George
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>EIS and beneficial organisms and pathogens

Reid from my understanding subject to correction by others, who know more than 
I do, the bacteria both good and bad are only effected by the EIS outside of 
the stomach, like the throat, sinus, mouth and more, it is broken down and 
assimilated into the bloodstream in the stomach, which is why the ppm for good 
use of this product is recommended at between 5 - 10 ppm - this is because at 
this size it can traverse the cell walls and do the best job it can do without 
direct contact to any pathogens in the blood stream      
Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs 
Sandee
An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
oha...@juno.com & or 
san...@spiceisle.com
Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops

RE: CS>Nano Silver

[abeland1]

Neville,
I don't know if I answered your questions adequately. You can find out all you 
would like to know about my new generators producing 50 ppm EIS on the 
following forum.:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/
Arnold

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From: abela...@atlasnova.com
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 5:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Nano Silver

1) I guess your product is measured for ppm *immediately* after the brew 
process...Yes/No?
Immediately or one year after. There will be no difference.
Jason can confirm this. He has one of the first units.
2) Do you *re-check* that reading in 5 days...Yes/No?
The unit was thoroughly evaluated by Jason and he, as he put it, "put it 
through the ringer". The solution that it delivers is clear and stable. In the 
thread that I referred you to is a copy of the report from mutual Cornell 
confirming the 50 ppm result

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From: Neville
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 5:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nano Silver

More information!

Here's two quick easy questions for you to clarify...

1) I guess your product is measured for ppm *immediately* after the brew 
process...Yes/No?

2) Do you *re-check* that reading in 5 days...Yes/No?

N.

From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Nano Silver 
 
Thank you for guiding us to that article. I have a question. Is the EIS the 
water used in the sintering process? If so, would a reliable method of 
producing 50 ppm, 98% ionic EIS be of help in your efforts? I have been able to 
achieve this level with my generators. Details can be found in the following 
thread:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10
 
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RE: CS>Nano Silver

[abeland1]

Thank you for guiding us to that article. I have a question. Is the EIS the 
water used in the sintering process? If so, would a reliable method of 
producing 50 ppm, 98% ionic EIS be of help in your efforts? I have been able to 
achieve this level with my generators. Details can be found in the following 
thread:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10


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From: Reid Harvey
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 4:04 AM
To: Silverlist Post
Subject: Re: CS>Nano Silver

Thanks Phil,  It seems we can regard the term *colloidal silver* as generic, 
considering that there are numerous, altogether different colloids of silver.
For example, where I work at TAM Ceramics, Niagara Falls, NY, we are readying 
distribution of silver treated, granulated ceramics which gives a remarkably 
effective water filter media for destruction of pathogens.  I.e., for the 
treatment of this filter media we use a colloid of silver.
It seems that the term ‘colloidal silver,' is the way it’s described for sale 
because for many it’s easier to comprehend than the more accurate description:  
electrically isolated silver.  In fact, could it be that to be more accurate 
still we should call it, *Positively Charged Ionic Silver*?
BTW, for anyone who may be interested, do checkout the article on TAM Ceramics 
water filter media of granulated ceramics, coated with a small amount of 
silver.  The article is in the January/February issue of *Ceramic Bulletin,* 
the journal of the American Ceramic Society.
If I do say so myself our ceramic filter media is the one and only genuinely 
sustainable approach to water treatment against pathogens for the developing 
world; low cost and user-friendly as such:
http://tamceramics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/TAM-feature_01-02-2019.pdf 
Reid

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:23 PM Phil Morrison  wrote:
The term 'colloidal silver' is more likely used in the chemistry arena, 'EIS' 
is more likely in the physics arena.
We are in the chemical arena, so CS is the appropriate term here.

Both silver particles and ions work to control pathogens, each in their own 
way.   You might say particles work extracellularly while ions work 
intracellularly. 

We are really measuring clusters of silver particles in CS, so nano-meter is 
the proper term.  For instance, 1 np equals approximately 50 silver atoms.  

KISS 

RE: CS>Nano Silver

[abeland1]

Thank you for guiding us to that article. I have a question. Is the EIS the 
water used in the sintering process? If so, would a reliable method of 
producing 50 ppm, 98% ionic EIS be of help in your efforts? I have been able to 
achieve this level with my generators. Details can be found in the following 
thread:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10

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From: Reid Harvey
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 4:04 AM
To: Silverlist Post
Subject: Re: CS>Nano Silver

Thanks Phil,  It seems we can regard the term *colloidal silver* as generic, 
considering that there are numerous, altogether different colloids of silver.
For example, where I work at TAM Ceramics, Niagara Falls, NY, we are readying 
distribution of silver treated, granulated ceramics which gives a remarkably 
effective water filter media for destruction of pathogens.  I.e., for the 
treatment of this filter media we use a colloid of silver.
It seems that the term ‘colloidal silver,' is the way it’s described for sale 
because for many it’s easier to comprehend than the more accurate description:  
electrically isolated silver.  In fact, could it be that to be more accurate 
still we should call it, *Positively Charged Ionic Silver*?
BTW, for anyone who may be interested, do checkout the article on TAM Ceramics 
water filter media of granulated ceramics, coated with a small amount of 
silver.  The article is in the January/February issue of *Ceramic Bulletin,* 
the journal of the American Ceramic Society.
If I do say so myself our ceramic filter media is the one and only genuinely 
sustainable approach to water treatment against pathogens for the developing 
world; low cost and user-friendly as such:
http://tamceramics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/TAM-feature_01-02-2019.pdf 
Reid

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:23 PM Phil Morrison  wrote:
The term 'colloidal silver' is more likely used in the chemistry arena, 'EIS' 
is more likely in the physics arena.
We are in the chemical arena, so CS is the appropriate term here.

Both silver particles and ions work to control pathogens, each in their own 
way.   You might say particles work extracellularly while ions work 
intracellularly. 

We are really measuring clusters of silver particles in CS, so nano-meter is 
the proper term.  For instance, 1 np equals approximately 50 silver atoms.  

KISS 

RE: CS>Nano Silver

[abeland1]

1) I guess your product is measured for ppm *immediately* after the brew 
process...Yes/No?
Immediately or one year after. There will be no difference.
Jason can confirm this. He has one of the first units.
2) Do you *re-check* that reading in 5 days...Yes/No?
The unit was thoroughly evaluated by Jason and he, as he put it, "put it 
through the ringer". The solution that it delivers is clear and stable. In the 
thread that I referred you to is a copy of the report from mutual Cornell 
confirming the 50 ppm result

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From: Neville
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 5:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nano Silver

More information!

Here's two quick easy questions for you to clarify...

1) I guess your product is measured for ppm *immediately* after the brew 
process...Yes/No?

2) Do you *re-check* that reading in 5 days...Yes/No?

N.

From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Nano Silver 
 
Thank you for guiding us to that article. I have a question. Is the EIS the 
water used in the sintering process? If so, would a reliable method of 
producing 50 ppm, 98% ionic EIS be of help in your efforts? I have been able to 
achieve this level with my generators. Details can be found in the following 
thread:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10
 
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RE: CS>Nano Silver

[abeland1]

Thank you for guiding us to that article. I have a question. Is the EIS the 
water used in the sintering process? If so, would a reliable method of 
producing 50 ppm, 98% ionic EIS be of help in your efforts? I have been able to 
achieve this level with my generators. Details can be found in the following 
thread:
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-10

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From: Reid Harvey
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 11:16 AM
To: Silverlist Post
Subject: Re: CS>Nano Silver

RaVen,

I hadn't considered this and now you've got me wondering.  Ask me again in 
three to six months and sorry that I'm putting you off.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 2:01 PM RaVen Sequoia  wrote:
Hi Reid, 
I'm curious if there is a colloidal silver handheld shower filters? 


RaVen 

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 7:04 AM Reid Harvey  wrote:
Thanks Phil,  It seems we can regard the term *colloidal silver* as generic, 
considering that there are numerous, altogether different colloids of silver.
For example, where I work at TAM Ceramics, Niagara Falls, NY, we are readying 
distribution of silver treated, granulated ceramics which gives a remarkably 
effective water filter media for destruction of pathogens.  I.e., for the 
treatment of this filter media we use a colloid of silver.
It seems that the term ‘colloidal silver,' is the way it’s described for sale 
because for many it’s easier to comprehend than the more accurate description:  
electrically isolated silver.  In fact, could it be that to be more accurate 
still we should call it, *Positively Charged Ionic Silver*?
BTW, for anyone who may be interested, do checkout the article on TAM Ceramics 
water filter media of granulated ceramics, coated with a small amount of 
silver.  The article is in the January/February issue of *Ceramic Bulletin,* 
the journal of the American Ceramic Society.
If I do say so myself our ceramic filter media is the one and only genuinely 
sustainable approach to water treatment against pathogens for the developing 
world; low cost and user-friendly as such:
http://tamceramics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/TAM-feature_01-02-2019.pdf 
Reid

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:23 PM Phil Morrison  wrote:
The term 'colloidal silver' is more likely used in the chemistry arena, 'EIS' 
is more likely in the physics arena.
We are in the chemical arena, so CS is the appropriate term here.

Both silver particles and ions work to control pathogens, each in their own 
way.   You might say particles work extracellularly while ions work 
intracellularly. 

We are really measuring clusters of silver particles in CS, so nano-meter is 
the proper term.  For instance, 1 np equals approximately 50 silver atoms.  

KISS 



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RE: CS>Nano silver

[abeland1]

There is a good reason for us to get away from the name "colloidal silver." Any 
form of silver in water with the silver suspended can legitimately be called 
"colloidal silver." That allows smart marketers to manipulate the already 
confused consumers with the argument that a high PPM is desired. You could take 
a silver Maple leaf coin and incase it in enough foamy stuff to make it float 
in a liter of water and claim to be producing 32,000 PPM colloidal silver. And 
that would be true.
The term Nano means one in 1 billion. Pico is one in 1 trillion. If we insist 
on referencing the name to a size, then we probably should stick to Nano. The 
size of the silver atom is about half of one Nano. That is defined by the van 
der Waals radius of about 251 picometers. While I don't have any evidence to 
support this, I would theorize that if two silver ions became any closer than 1 
nm apart, they would succumb to the van der Waals' weak bonding force which 
turns neutral molecules into a lattice.
Why not settle on the term "electrically isolated silver." It adequately 
describes what we are trying to make with the low voltage DC. How successful we 
are at this can be measured by the percentage of particulate to ionic content. 
It should also be entirely clear. We are long past the days when people thought 
it wasn't colloidal silver unless it was sufficiently yellow. Good riddance.
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/

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From: Neville
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nano silver

Hmmm, in fact what we produce in the home using LVDC could actually, or in 
reality, be defined as 'pico-silver'?

Products sold in a shop may be classed as nano, but our stuff could/should be 
termed 'pico'?

This is one snippet defining 'pico-silver'...

"Pico-Silver Solution is a dietary supplement that is used on an as-needed 
basis to support the structure and function of the immune system. Pico-Silver 
is a unique (95-98% biologically active silver ions) stabilized ion of silver 
prepared from 99.99% pure elemental silver and measuring in the picometer 
range."

Something to think about I guess.

N.


From: PT Ferrance 
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2019 12:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nano silver 
 
Thanks, Nevile.
PT


On Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 11:17:14 PM EST, Neville 
 wrote: 


There is a definition for 'nano', but the normal home made LVDC solution is 
certainly nano-silver.  Size is determined, but I believe ours is definitely 
nano scale below that 'nano' determined size in textbooks.

N.


From: PT Ferrance 
Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2019 11:07 AM
To: Silverlist Post; silvermedic...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: CS>Nano silver 
 
Hi,  Would someone help me out here.  Is the EIS we make the same as 
nano-silver?  I'm starting a protocol which does not recommend silver in any 
form except the nano silver because it "...colloidal silver depletes the 
protein ceruloplasmin which runs the ferroxidase enzyme in the body which 
regulates iron."

I'm clueless here.
Thanks. 
PT

RE: CS>help

[abeland1]

https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/

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From: Vicky Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>help

help

CS>unsubscribe

[abeland1]

From: abela...@atlasnova.com 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 7:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver List - Farewell

DITTO

From: pc 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 5:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver List - Farewell

me too !




On 6/23/2017 7:27 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

  I'm so sorry to see this happening.
  MA



  On Friday, June 23, 2017 5:48 PM, Jason Eaton mailto:jasoneaton...@gmail.com 
wrote:




  Greetings, everyone:

  With our fearless leader MIA and no clear consensus of what the group 
  wants to do, I'm going to bid you all a farewell!  Over the years, this 
  has been one of my favorite lists to be a part of.

  I am going to be reviving my old silver yahoo list, only because there 
  are still about 450 members.  It's been quiet on that list for a long 
  time, mainly because most of what needed to be said about silver has 
  been said.

  However, that is changing.  While the Eskimo silver list has been pretty 
  sleepy, researchers out there have continued to pioneer new methods.  
  There is also quite a bit of new research in the nano particle world.

  If anyone has an interest in more advanced topics and wishes to join, 
  you would be welcome.  On this list, however, topics off health and 
  silver are not tolerated at all.  A zero tolerance policy means I simply 
  remove the member, rather than debate the matter! :)

  This newly revised list will be great for people who:

  ...want to know how to make a product very similar to Mesosilver at home.

  want to know how to encapsulate silver ions for transport into the body.

  want to know how to make a 100+ PPM particulate silver colloid using 
  the chemistry method.

  want to know how to make a 50 PPM electrically isolated ionic silver 
  solution (the "glass ceiling" of 24-25 PPM of silver ions in solution 
  has been broken.  It turns out, that was a false glass ceiling).

  ...want to study the potential toxic effects of silver.  My list has 
  always looked at both sides of all of the story.  A select few warned 
  people that EIS CAN cause argyria, even as we were chastised for doing 
  so.  We really need to look at the cytotoxicity of silver colloids as 
  more and more people on the "cutting edge" are creating higher and 
  higher parts per million colloids.

  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/silvermedicine/info

  I'm not yet ready to start publishing formulations and methods, but I'm 
  getting closer!  As always, the project is about a collaboration between 
  like minded individuals, for the benefit of everyone.

  I wish you well!

  ~Jason 



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Re: CS>Silver List - Farewell

[abeland1]

DITTO

From: pc 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 5:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Silver List - Farewell

me too !




On 6/23/2017 7:27 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

  I'm so sorry to see this happening.
  MA



  On Friday, June 23, 2017 5:48 PM, Jason Eaton mailto:jasoneaton...@gmail.com 
wrote:




  Greetings, everyone:

  With our fearless leader MIA and no clear consensus of what the group 
  wants to do, I'm going to bid you all a farewell!  Over the years, this 
  has been one of my favorite lists to be a part of.

  I am going to be reviving my old silver yahoo list, only because there 
  are still about 450 members.  It's been quiet on that list for a long 
  time, mainly because most of what needed to be said about silver has 
  been said.

  However, that is changing.  While the Eskimo silver list has been pretty 
  sleepy, researchers out there have continued to pioneer new methods.  
  There is also quite a bit of new research in the nano particle world.

  If anyone has an interest in more advanced topics and wishes to join, 
  you would be welcome.  On this list, however, topics off health and 
  silver are not tolerated at all.  A zero tolerance policy means I simply 
  remove the member, rather than debate the matter! :)

  This newly revised list will be great for people who:

  ...want to know how to make a product very similar to Mesosilver at home.

  want to know how to encapsulate silver ions for transport into the body.

  want to know how to make a 100+ PPM particulate silver colloid using 
  the chemistry method.

  want to know how to make a 50 PPM electrically isolated ionic silver 
  solution (the "glass ceiling" of 24-25 PPM of silver ions in solution 
  has been broken.  It turns out, that was a false glass ceiling).

  ...want to study the potential toxic effects of silver.  My list has 
  always looked at both sides of all of the story.  A select few warned 
  people that EIS CAN cause argyria, even as we were chastised for doing 
  so.  We really need to look at the cytotoxicity of silver colloids as 
  more and more people on the "cutting edge" are creating higher and 
  higher parts per million colloids.

  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/silvermedicine/info

  I'm not yet ready to start publishing formulations and methods, but I'm 
  getting closer!  As always, the project is about a collaboration between 
  like minded individuals, for the benefit of everyone.

  I wish you well!

  ~Jason 



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CS>Thank You Mike

[abeland1]

I didn't always agree with Mike, I felt he stood sometimes on the fine line 
between benign indifference and depraved indifference but maintaining this list 
was doubtless his way of giving back, and he did it. Few people do. Thanks 
again Mike, and happy trails
I unsubscribed to the silverlist three years ago. I wanted to try my best to 
create a body of information, good, honest, scientifically supported knowledge 
about how to create the best process for making colloidal silver. The 
silverlist was not the place to do that. When I, and many others, attempted to 
discuss the more technical details involved in the process, we would see 
messages complaining of nerds, technocrats and other undesirable characters 
ruining the list. The more scientifically inclined members finally gave up and 
left. Old-timers on the list will remember these people. I found a forum called 
goldismoney2.com. It is populated by people who have been smart enough to 
invest some money in precious metals. They have a sub forum called "the coffee 
shack" and within that forum is another sub forum "Alt Medicine/Coll Silver". I 
Started a thread there called "the art of making colloidal silver". I published 
what I had found out and invited others to contribute whatever they could to 
help advance the art. In the three years it has run it has been very successful 
with over 18,000 individual views. I gained a great deal of knowledge from the 
contribution of people to this thread. The knowledge gained enabled me to 
design and produce a colloidal silver generator that will make electrically 
Isolated Silver in the strength of 50 ppm ionic. Those of you on the silverlist 
who are interested in making the very best colloidal silver that you can might 
consider examining this resource.
Jason, if you decide to take over the list let me wish you well. You have made 
great contributions to the cause of colloidal silver over the years and I could 
think of no one better. Better you than me.

CSWhat do you really need to make pretty darn good colloidal silver?

[abeland1]

First of all, you need the purest silver wire that you can find.  At least 
.  Then you need some method of determining whether or not the water you 
are using is pure distilled water.  Then you need a way to check and see if you 
have made an adequate strength of colloidal silver.  You also need some way to 
determine whether or not you're done.  I believe  that I have designed a 
generator that sells for less than $30.00 and will do all this.  Have a look at 
how it operates here:

http://www.atlasnova.com/csginst.pdf

Comments are welcome.

Re: CS I stand by the Colloidal Master as the Best.

[abeland1]

You are correct, MaryAnn, my bad.
The Colloid Master allows the modulated current to pass in one direction to 
just the optimal amount of time that is needed to allow silver to disperse 
without too strong an action on the electrodes, then the current reverses, in 
effect using electromagnetism to push the particles away from the electrodes 
and allows them to disperse into the water. This describes one cycle, which 
lasts about one minute and is a built-in automatic feature.
I'm afraid that when my mind encounters a statement such as in effect using 
electromagnetism to push the particles away, my mind simply erases the entire 
paragraph.  There are other parts of the sales pitch that I graciously chose to 
ignore involving solar events and ionization of the air  being blamed for the 
unpredictability of their results, that I blanked out.  It is hard to criticize 
statements such as these because for all I know, they might actually believe 
them.  I can see some cut and paste activity from Frank Key's site (and Frank 
has his own axes to grind), which try to obfuscate the fact that particle size 
can be determined by the color.  This is done by emphasizing the effect of some 
factor which in reality is orders of magnitude smaller than that of particle 
size.  This is the tactic of confusion to the enemy which is in this case, 
the customer.  The origin of this thread was Tel comparing this unit to the 
silverpuppy, which has a very large and loyal band of users, for good reason.  
Ken does not BS his customers.  I can read through his site without triggering 
my gag reflex.
If a person is willing to turn on a multimeter and push the button of a laser 
pointer they can, for the same money, get almost 10 times the 9997 (Not 999) 
silver, a proper power supply (not a wall wart), a high quality laser pointer, 
a circuit board with a slider type potentiometer and one gallon jar.  This will 
produce a gallon a day of 15 to 20 PPM for years.
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=371376