Re: Re: CS>Tooth erosion and severe gum pockets

[leslie1053]

> That sounds interesting; the bentonite clay. Where do you get it? Sure wish I 
> could avoid the things coming up at the dentist office for me.
Leslie
> From: "Norton, Steve" 
> Date: 2008/10/01 Wed PM 10:20:05 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>Tooth erosion and severe gum pockets
> 
> I have significant gum loss and peridontal disease. I have a Sonicare 
> toothbrush and have used HP to help my problem. With a lot of gum loss I do 
> not recommend an electronic toothbrush. They can be very tough on the teeth. 
> I no longer use mine  I also think that use of HP should be used no more than 
> once a day. I think it is tough on the teeth rootswhere you cannot afford 
> more loss. I also don't think that the HP penetrates into the infected areas 
> well. The infection can even penetrate the bone. I use colloidal silver 
> (ionic home made). It is inexpensive if you do it yourself including making 
> the CS generator. CS can pass through the mouths tissues if you rinse with it 
> for about 5 minutes. The other thing I use is calcium Bentonite clay. The 
> clay has an amazing ability to clear up deep routed infections, drawing it 
> out from the gums. I hydrate the clay to a thick paste, put a tablespoon of 
> the paste in my mouth and hold for 20 to 30 minutes 2 to 3 times a day. 
> If the cost of the CS is to high, I would use HP once a day along woth the 
> clay. If I had to choose only one thing I would use the Bentonite over any of 
> the others. 
>  - Steve
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: gmetrop...@aol.com 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Wed Oct 01 21:06:07 2008
> Subject: CS>Tooth erosion and severe gum pockets
> 
> At my last dental visit I was shoked to hear I had tooth erosion and 
> severe recessed gums at a nine level everywhere. At my last visit 6 
> months ago I had one area that measured 6. I had taken a recommendation 
>  from a few forum people and used 3%peroxide on my toothbrush with 
> baking soda salt formula from ecodent. I did this every time I brushed 
> with an  oral B electic toohbrush 3x/day to help whiten my dull teeth. 
> I have no cavities or abcessess but was told I permanently eroded my 
> teeth and have deep gum pockets now. The hygenist says it's not from 
> the concoction I used but that's the only thing I did different. I was 
> also told that I can not fix the eroded teeth nor deep gum pockets. 
> Even if I  strengthened the gum tissue the gaps would remain due to 
> eroding the teeth. I was told I would get and probably have plague in 
> the pockets that is unreachable that will breed bacteria and systemic 
> problems. The dentist wants to bond the teeth to fill in gaps beteen 
> the tooth and gums. He also told me that my gums would be stronger if I 
> agreed to use flouride.I was told I would need oral surgery and loose 
> my teeth if I don't. I can't afford that nor do I want to do that.The 
> hygenist used some deep probe ultrasonic tool that left mygums 
> throbbing. I do not want to bond them. I went in for a simple cleaning 
> with no cavities and left being told I will loose my teeth! My 
> questions are:
>   Do power toothbrushes erode enamel on teeth? We're told they decrease 
> plague,cavities and whiten.
>   Does peroxide damage teeth and gums?   
> 
> Is Dr. Judds tooth soap the best way to go? CoQ 10? Can enamel be 
> rebuilt? Does
>  swishing CS stain the teeth? My teeth seemed grayer after I used it for
>  months.
> 
>  I pray the damage is reversible. Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>[FW]Promising Study on Obesity

[leslie1053]

May I please ask you for some advice for a young lady who needs to lose 100 
pounds? She even fasted aprx. 18 days to no avail. There is no money to buy 
anything at this time. Perhaps you can refer us to some articles to offer 
advice? Would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you,
Leslie
> 
> From: "Brooks Bradley" 
> Date: 2008/09/25 Thu PM 07:08:42 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: CS>[FW]Promising Study on Obesity
> 
> 
  If list members have, already, received this I do humbly apologize.  However, I sent this posting about 1:00 pm today and have failed to see it appear on the list.  While I do not suffer ego self-indulgences it is with some effort that I compose postings these days.  If anyone received my earlier posting...or this one, a one-liner confirming such would be appreciated.
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley 


-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : [FW]Promising Study on Obesity
 Date : Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:43:46 -0400 (EDT)
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 To : 


-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : Promising Study on Obesity
 Date : Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
 From : "Brooks Bradley" 
 To : 

  Recently, prompted by information encountered in Dr. Sharon Moalem's splendid book
 entitled "Survival of the Sickest"  (he covers everything from  the evolution of diabetes, to the bubonic plague), we prosecuted a limitedbut revealing, investigation relating to obesity in children.  Dr. Moalem's premise revolved around data originating from Duke University scientists.   What they had discovered was, to usseminal in naturean occurrence both fascinating and revealing-relating to the effects of the DIET and SUPPLEMENTATION, by the prospective mother both before and during the earliest stages of pregnancy.  To wit:  It was discovered that a group of mice, "specifically bred to carry a gene called AGOUTI, which gives them their characteristic pale coat and tendency toward obesity"reliably yielded off-spring
which were FAT AND YELLOW.  The Duke scientists separated a population of, female Agouti mice into two groups---one control and one MODIFIED (but only to the extent of the diet.  The Controls were fed a normal dietthey yielded the expected FAT YELLOW babies.  The other group received similar prenatal care...with one exception---they were given vitamin supplements (actually, a combination of compounds especially rich in B12, folic acid, betaine and choline).
The results were, in shortSTARTLING.  Somehow, the Agouti gene had been TURNED OFFthe fat yellow mice had produced the THIN BROWN MICE. The Agouti gene in the "thin brown mice" was just were it was supposed to bebut had, somehow been TURNED OFF. CHEMICALS HAD ATTACHED TO THE GENE AND SUPPRESSED ITS INSTRUCTIONS. This process is called methylation.  
Our experiments tended to CONFIRM the results obtained by the Duke University research team. These results have us VERY excited, because they promise to offer excellent support to a means of effecting conditions enabling direct MODIFICATION of unwanted genetic instructionsin certain conditions.  These studies are based upon a research field known as Epigenetics.
I will not bore you with further diatribe on this matter.  However, we feel that
this tends to confirm the POWERFUL influence of prenatal nutrition on the health parameters of newborns.and indications that such continues on into their later lives.
  I would be remiss if I did not encourage the more interested of list members, to obtain a copy of Dr. Moalem's book--I guarantee it to be one of the MOST interesting and
informative you will ever read.
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley. 
p.s.  We have a great interest in the possible effects of "adult stem cell protocol" on currently-expressing cases of morbid obesity (together with many other serious insults, such as
coronary heart disease/damage).in adults of all ages.  Adult stem cell protocols do not have ANY of the objectionable moral arguments put forward against the use of fetal cell extraction.additionally, all stem cells are derived from the hostand therefore, do not present ANY form of rejection considerations.  Note: Adult stem cell protocols ARE NOT, presently, legal in the U.S..except in veterinary medicine (the horses and other large animals are benefiting in astounding ways from this new science.  FDA says HUMANS will have to wait until some future era in earth's history.  Meanwhile, if someone has a dear family member
(and about 40k to 50k dollars) there are excellent clinics in Thailand---and other countries---which are achieving powerful results (often---IN DAYS)..among persons diagnosed as terminally hopeless for addressing  cardio-vascular damage. I AM NOT putting forward recommendations of any type.for direct treatment.  My recommendations are for persons involved in Experimental Medical Research, only.


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Re: Re: CS>Water Distiller, Two Essentials

[leslie1053]

Gotcha. In the past if any way to screw it up, I'd find that way. Now, the 
words out of my mouth are that I CAN and I CAN DO IT RIGHT.

Thanks,
Leslie
> 
> From: Wayne Fugitt 
> Date: 2008/09/21 Sun PM 09:07:46 CDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Water Distiller, Two Essentials
> 
> Evening Leslie,
> 
> At 02:41 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
> >Oh wellnice thought anyway. LOL
> 
>I did not say it would not work.
> 
> Of course it will work fine.  It is nothing new, been around for a 
> long, long time.
> 
> It is almost the same as the remote and primitive design that 
> requires nothing but a sheet of plastic and a hole in the 
> ground,  and your hat to catch the water. ( if you have a good hat )
> 
> The best feature of the idea is the free energy.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> =
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Water Distiller, Two Essentials

[leslie1053]

Oh wellnice thought anyway. LOL
> 
> From: Wayne Fugitt 
> Date: 2008/09/21 Sun PM 02:28:05 CDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Water Distiller, Two Essentials
> 
> At 01:25 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
> >To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic 
> >wrap, and  some type of jar or cup.
> 
> That is not all of course.
> 
> The two primary requirements are a source of heat and a source
> of coolness.
> 
> Often distilling takes place without any intervention of man, if 
> these two things are present.
> 
> A deep well is often very cool.  Mine is only 165 feet but with a 
> thick layer or rock on top of the water.
> 
> A running creek is sometimes cool, but not always.
> 
> Deep lakes may be cool at the bottom,  Shallow and mid depth lakes 
> are often warm, all the way to the bottom.
> 
> There are no deep lakes in my area.
> 
> Both the creeks and the lakes are often 86 degees,
> 
> There is no temperature stratification in the lakes.
> They are the same temperature from top to bottom, often 40 feet in depth.
> 
> Without the source of heat and cool, I do not think all the kings 
> horses and all the kings men, can distill any water.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> =
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Water Distiller

[leslie1053]

Do you put a hole in the bottom of the cone? I had heard that plastic wrap 
leaked plastic intoyour food; Is this the type of plastic to use?
Thanks,
Leslie
> 
> From: sickleave48...@aol.com
> Date: 2008/09/21 Sun AM 03:48:25 CDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Water Distiller
> 
> Pulled this off Net
> 
> To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic wrap, and  
> some type of jar or cup. Suspend the jar in the center of the bucket, above 
> the  water level. Then place the plastic wrap on top of the bucket. Put some 
> type of  weight on the plastic wrap in the center so it bends down and forms 
> a 
> cone. (the  tip of the cone should be pointed directly into the jar that is 
> in 
> the  bucket)
> Then place this in the sun.
> The water should evaporate and  condense on the plastic wrap, drip down the 
> cone shape, and fall into the  jar.
> That is distilled water.
> I came up with one bigger I have seen (at work) 55 gallon Black plastic  
> drums You could make a large bucket type with some thing in center to catch  
> water 
> and pass through side of drum to a storage container behind drum Bob
> 
> 
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Re: CS>CS-MSM-DMSO formula

[leslie1053]

Thanks, and please let me know how this works. I was told I have a cataract 
just starting.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: CS>CS-MSM-DMSO formula


After reading everything sent on the topic of CS for cataracts, I've 
decided to start with this:

1 oz my homemade CS - 1 tsp MSM powder - 1 ml DMSO
Stings like the devil which I know from prior experience is the MSM, not 
the DMSO. Stinging doesn't last long.


Still considering the dr. christopher eyebright extract and flaxseed oil 
and other suggestions.

thanks to all who replied with suggestions and so much help,
sol


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Re: Re: CS>MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement

[leslie1053]

I wonder what chlorine dioxide is? Would this be like clorox? Or is this what 
is in the MMS? Sounds risky to me.
Leslie
> 
> From: "bbanever" 
> Date: 2008/08/07 Thu AM 12:38:11 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement
> 
> AScott - You are talking about chlorine dioxide GAS... yes the gas is toxic 
> to inhale.  CLO2 in small amounts is NOT toxic to healthy cells... just 
> anerobes, virus, and parasites. 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: ascottsil...@aol.com 
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:59 PM
>   Subject: CS>MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplement
> 
> 
>   Effects on Humans: Chlorine dioxide is a severe respiratory and eye 
> irritant in humans. Inhalation can produce coughing, wheezing, respiratory 
> distress, and congestion in the lungs [Patnaik 1992]. Irritating effects in 
> humans was intense at concentration levels of 5 ppm. Accidental exposure at 
> 19 ppm of the gas inside a bleach tank resulted in the death of one worker 
> (time of exposure is not specified) [ACGIH 1991]. Workers exposed for 5 years 
> to average chlorine dioxide concentrations below 0.1 ppm but with excursions 
> to higher concentrations had symptoms of eye and throat irritation, nasal 
> discharge, cough, and wheezing; on bronchoscopy, bronchitis was observed in 
> seven of the 12 workers [Clayton and Clayton 1982]. Concentrations of 0.25 
> ppm and less have been reported to worsen mild respiratory ailments [ACGIH 
> 1991]. Two adults who ingested 250 ml of a 40 mg/l solution of chlorine 
> dioxide experienced headache, nausea, abdominal discomfort, and 
> lightheadedness within 5 minutes of ingestion. The symptoms disappeared 
> within another 5 minutes [NLM 
> 
>   
> http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/chlorinedioxide/recognition.html#healthhazard
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>dog hit by car

[leslie1053]

just wanted to say I am praying now for (him?). Let the vet give him 
something for pain and BELIEVE that all healing was finished on the cross.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Acmeair" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:31 PM
Subject: CS>dog hit by car


"to the Veterinary types on the list. any suggestions on alternative  help 
for this little terrier? just easing of the pain would help. will try to 
get more info on damages.  thanks,,, jim   "


the vet says the pooch's back is broken,  pelvis is cracked, and hips 
damaged.  poor little thing!   any help or information sure would be 
appreciated. thanks again jim



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Re: Re: CS>oreganol-teri

[leslie1053]

Got any suggestions as some places to order from? The oil.

Leslie
> 
> From: Clayton Family 
> Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 03:25:36 CDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>oreganol-teri
> 
> Thank you very much for the specifics. Is  a daily dose considered one 
> dose every 6 hours?  It is the oreganol brand, and is already diluted 
> with olive oil.  I wanted to use it for candida and other fungal issues 
> that are flaring up. Thanks to all who responded.
> 
> kathryn
> 
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Teri Kavakos wrote:
> 
> > Oregano is a hot oil so you would want to dilute it unless it is 
> > already diluted with olive oil.  Check the bottle for this 
> > information. I have oreganol P 73 and 2 drops  is 100mg.  So if you 
> > are taking it orally I would place 2 drops in a gel capsule and 
> > swallow right away.   If it was Young Living Oregano oil it is 
> > recommended to dilute one drop to  a teaspoon of honey or a 4 oz 
> > beverage.  YL oil is not diluted.   But as a replacement for diflucan 
> > I would use Thyme not Oregano.  Oregano is great for bronchitis,may 
> > help colds, digestion problems, balance metabolism viral and bacterial 
> > pneumonia and strengthen vital centers.
> >
> > Teri
> >
> > At 09:33 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> Dear List,
> >>
> >> I picked up a little bottle of oreganol to use as an antifungal, and 
> >> did not see any dosing info online, like to use in place of diflucan 
> >> or something like that. I have heard wonders about it, but hoped 
> >> someone can steer me in the direction of a correct dose for a 
> >> "normal" person.
> >>
> >> Thanks, kathryn
> >
> 
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Re: Re: CS>CS with a nebulizer

[leslie1053]

> Hi, 

I am nebulizing with Collodial Silver but noticed you suggested a little DMSO 
added? Have been coughing so much that my ribs are hurting. The CS has released 
lots of fleem and seems to have gone up to my head or sinuses more. Got any 
suggestions? Oh, in transition now but get to check my email occasionally. 

Thanks all,
Leslie
> From: Wayne Fugitt 
> Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 04:51:11 CDT
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS with a nebulizer
> 
> Morning Patrice,
> 
> At 03:15 AM 4/3/2008, you wrote:
> >What success has anyone had using a nebulizer for colloidal silver?
> 
>I have tried to get information as you are doing, and it is hard to get 
> anyone to state all the facts.
> 
>   So  I just experimented a bit.
> 
>   I use 10 % DMSO.   I think some have used 15 or 20 percent.
> 
>The timing and methods can vary depending on the seriousness of the 
> ailment and what you wish to accomplish.
> 
>Deep breathing, how long you hold the breath before expelling, ect, 
>  will have to be developed by you, as you progress and learn.
> 
>It works for me with short sessions, sometimes as little as two or three 
> minutes, and seldom more than 5 or 6 minutes.
> 
>Usually I have nothing serious, only a cough  or congestion.   Possibly 
> I have had mold or fungus infections, even MRSA once.
> 
>Maybe I had something more serious than I realized.
> 
>I would guess there are several hundred messages about this in the 
> silver list archives, which I have locally, since about year 2000 or 2001.
> 
>I wish we had a collection for the silver file area.  I could extract 
> these and put them there in
> a text format.  That is a somewhat a task, but not impossible.
> 
> I am too busy at the present to do it.
> 
> Springtime is here and it is time for Growing.  Plus work, and other 
> projects demand lots of my
> time and energy.  Both are more limited than 20 or 30 years ago.
> Then  there seemed to be little limit.
> 
> So, start your own experimenting.  Maybe others will offer a few suggestions.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do.
> 
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> 
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Re: Re: CS>Sick and Disappointed

[leslie1053]

I would like to know more also but would like to change my address to:

leelee...@gmail.com
Only email that lets you get lots of mail. Thanks,
Lee
> 
> From: Scott 
> Date: 2008/03/07 Fri PM 01:34:32 CST
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Sick and Disappointed
> 
> Pat,
> 
> Do you have a lot of spraying of chemtrails in your area? If you do, then 
> that is probably the source of your problem. Let me know if you know about 
> chemtrails, and if not, I can give you some good info to look at so you are 
> better informed. If you already know then you may need to do some prevention 
> work so you don't get real sick. Let me know.
> 
> Scotty <><
> 
> Pat  wrote: I'm so disappointed that I can no 
> longer feel no fear about catching diseases I'm around.  After being in two 
> doctor's offices and the emergency room for several hours around many sick 
> people (had taken the parents there for other problems), three days later I 
> came down with something.  It started with cough, funny chest feeling, 
> headache.  Then slight fever on the third night and head cold.  I'd been 
> taking about 1 1/2 ounce of colloidal silver with equal parts gatorade 
> (should it be 1/3 CS to 2/3 gatorade or does it matter?) every couple hours 
> since before I got sick.  I'd also been taking 3 drops AMMS twice a day and 
> then four drops twice a day when I got sick.  Also, I used olive leaf extract 
> (3 capsules a day).  
> 
> My husband went to buy a nebulizer for me  so I could get colloidal silver 
> into the lungs.  The Walmart pharmacy said there were two places in this big 
> town where you could buy onea medical supply place and another one in a 
> medical center.
> He went to one and asked for a nebulizer.  The clerk asked do you wish to 
> rent one or do you have a prescription.  He said he wished to just buy one.  
> They brought out one for $178.  He left without it and I checked 
> online...that same model sells for $50.  We weren't going to be home long 
> enough to order one, so I just tried to inhale CS from a spray bottle.
> 
> After being sick for three days, we went out on the road in the truck and I 
> figured I'd be well the next day or so since I've never been sick for more 
> than three days since I found out about colloidal silver.  I then used spray 
> CS several times a day and 1 or 2 ounces CS once a day and discontinued the 
> MMS (don't want to take chances of gastrointestinal  anything on the 
> road!!!).  Well, the cough got worse and worseI couldn't sleep much at 
> night and the only time I could quiet the cough was when I sucked on ice.  
> Finally, after going through a huge blizzard in north Texas and getting 
> almost no sleep that a.m., I cried Uncle and went to the urgent treatment 
> center when we got to El Paso. The doctor said there is so much of this going 
> around and that many of the patients he sees come back with this cough.  He 
> said it's bronchial spasms and then they get inflamed which then leads to 
> more and more coughing.  He had me nebulize with albuterol in the office, 
> then use an
>  albuterol inhaler (like for asthma) up to four times a day.  Now that I'm 
> able to get sleep, I'm making a fast recovery from the cold.  The doc also 
> prescribed azithromycin which I decided to take since I had so much stuff 
> coming from lungs and nose.  I'm eating yogurt every day to prevent  problems.
> 
> Why do fever and coughs get so much worse as the sun goes down?  That just 
> doesn't make sense to me, but it happened every day with the cough.  
> 
> So, it's been two weeks now since I got sick and I'm still not all the way 
> well.  I'm just so disappointed that all the tricks in my bag didn't get rid 
> of it right  away.
> 
>   
> Pat
> 
> 
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Re: CS>receding gums

[leslie1053]

Avoid all flouride if you don't want receding gums.

By the way, guess I will be off for a couple of weeks starting mon afternoon 
or tues morning.


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Paula Perry" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>receding gums



Thanks Chuck,
I already do that. It has helped my teeth from getting worse.
Paula
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: CS>receding gums


The "collar" around each tooth has to be wiped once a day.
Drugstore sections carry dental supplies. One device is the rubber
point tipped handle.
Use the rubber point to the base of each tooth all the way around.
You have to interrupt the bacteria daily.

Chuck
Just wondering out loud...
Is the G W Bush presidential library going to be mostly comic and
coloring books?

On 2/24/2008 7:29:29 AM, Paula Perry (p...@zoomnet.net) wrote:

Does anyone have any good remedies for receding gums? I have one tooth
that is really getting bad. The gum is so receded that the root is

exposed.

I am constantly trying to keep it clean and infection at bay. May have to
get it pulled.
Thanks,
Paula



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Re: CS>bone density

[leslie1053]

Would it matter what type or where to get the D3? That is one thing I haven't 
gotten yet. 
Thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Nave 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:31 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>bone density


  I doubt it will.

  Take Vitamin D3 supplements and get some *appropriate* exercise to load the 
bones.

  Dan




From: jlgregel [mailto:jlgre...@hctc.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>bone density


Does anyone in this group have information or experience to pass on that 
would explain if EIS will help build bone density?
Lin

Re: CS>Re CS, Seizures, and cancer

[leslie1053]

How would making CS cause nitrates? By adding something else? I just want to 
make sure I don't get or produce any nitrates.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re CS, Seizures, and cancer


It might have been silver nitrate.  Nitrates can cause seizures, for 
instance sodium nitrate can cause severe seizures.  So if you use that 
line of reasoning you could say that sodium causes seizures. Fact is it is 
the nitrate that causes them, yet for many experiments meant to show 
problems with silver, they are done with silver nitrate, ignoring that it 
is the nitrate that causes the problems, not the silver. Google nitrates 
seizures.


Marshall

bob Larson wrote:

a couple years ago i read a case that i found in, or maybe through, some
gov't site like CDC or NIH about a guy who had developed extreme constant
seizures (no rest) from silver.  but it wasn't from CS at all.  i think 
it
was some kind of occupational exposure, but i forget...this was when i 
was

looking for anything to convince me to not get into CS, and i was looking
pretty hard and had learned enough to realize it had nothing to do with 
CS.




-Original Message-
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re CS, Seizures, and cancer


I've mentioned this before that I've spent considerable time and 
some

money tracking the sources of claims like this.




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Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice

[leslie1053]

OK. He says that it is blocking the oxalic acid in the blood which is what 
kills the cancer cells. I agree that I had thought lemons were a good 
cleanse; that is all I had heard, but if cancer shows up I would want to 
know that nothing would interfere with what God put in our blood to kill out 
the cancer cells rather than wait till they have taken over. My daughter did 
the maple syrup cleanse which is with lemons and is wanting to do it again 
and I am not sure what to do here.


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "G Murray" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice


Leslie, what do you believe that lemon juice does to the body?  I have red 
the website you referred me too.  I don't quite understand where he is 
getting his info from. I don't see any research papers.  I even read 
several places where he is contradicting this information.  I have looked 
at many Google search pages using citric acid and health, good, or bad, 
and do not see anything more than it may be bad for the teeth. Which 
states to rinse the mouth out after a lot of citric acid.  There are 
several medical  websites which claim that citric acid is a remedy of 
kidney stones.


I have used lemon juice intensely for a 3 month period and have seen such 
remarkable changes in my body.  I do not believe for a moment that there 
is  any wrong with lemon juice.  It is one of the best alkalizers the body 
can take in.  To alkalize the body is to prevent cancer.


G Murray


Leslie wrote:

His research was on cancer and did a very thorough
study. His website is:  www.coljoe.com I got his book
but isn't here now; I am packing away and storing my
stuff. Let me know what you think.
Leslie
--- G Murray  wrote:



Who is Col. Joe?  Check what out?  What does
gatorade have to do with lemon juice?
G Murray




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Re: CS>Widespread Flu

[leslie1053]

Whereabouts with the flu? 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Widespread Flu


  We have the flu going around here really bad too...I let my gaurd down and 
wasn't taking it daily and got it but I nebulized and drank all kinds of the 
silver and it did not hang around as long or as bad as alot of people I work 
with got it...some were even hospitalized with it.

  Kurt Milkowski  wrote: 
Chemtrails anyone? I wonder how many of them went out for thier yearly jab 
of disease from thier well trained quacks?

Kurt

Pat  wrote:
  I'll find out how well my CS works. I spent an hour sitting in a doctor's 
waiting room next to a sick woman yesterday when I had to take my mother in 
law. Today when I had to go for my DOT physical, there were several people who 
were sick...two women who claimed to have flu and one scared to death healthy 
woman who was covering her face and begging the lab to take her immediately 
lol. When I told the PA and nurse to stay well, one said she hoped to but with 
so much flu she wasn't sure. I told her I wasn't too worried because I protect 
myself with colloidal silver. She said, "You'll turn blue." I then told them 
that I wouldn't. They wanted to know how it was made and were very interested. 
I realize now that the "blue man" is bringing awareness of CS to thousands who 
would never have heard of it. Probably hundreds will be researching on their 
computers now and many will decide to try it. I had never met anyone who had 
heard the words "colloidal
  silver" but at least now it is something which might cause interest and a 
search for the truth.

  Flu is widespread now in most states. The pharmacist said they're 
extremely busy and 80% of it is because of the flu. 

  Pat




  

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Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice

[leslie1053]

I should have said citric acid instead of citrus acid. What I am learning is 
that when something is doing good in one area, then you find out that it is 
doing harm in another, so I am cautious since finding out they are adding to 
drinks like Gataraid, mountain dew, and other products. Think they want to 
give us something good??


Anyway, I don't know for sure but Col. Joe presents a good case against 
citric acid. Check it all out and let me know what you think.


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "G Murray" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice



Leslie,

Lemon juice is one of the best remedies for kidney and or liver problems 
as the lemon juice dissolves the kidney stones.  Why one earth would you 
think lemon juice is bad for you?


G Murray


leslie1053 wrote:
I can't see how the lemon juice would work since it is citrus acid which 
is bad for us. I would look elsewhere.

 Leslie

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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:29 PM
*Subject:* CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice

I was wondering about disolving the stones with the lemon juice
and tea. I  have been told that the passing of the stones was the
painful part. Do you know the theory as to why they would cause
pain being dissolved? Also, someone mentioned that the lemon was
good for dissolving calcium stones. I wonder if the same would
hold true for dissolving calcium deposits elsewhere in the body?


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Re: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice

[leslie1053]

I can't see how the lemon juice would work since it is citrus acid which is bad 
for us. I would look elsewhere.

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: zeb caffe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:29 PM
  Subject: CS>TJ garland ando anyone-kidney stones and lemon juice


  I was wondering about disolving the stones with the lemon juice and tea. I  
have been told that the passing of the stones was the painful part. Do you know 
the theory as to why they would cause pain being dissolved? Also, someone 
mentioned that the lemon was good for dissolving calcium stones. I wonder if 
the same would hold true for dissolving calcium deposits elsewhere in the body?


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Re: CS>chemtrails

[leslie1053]

Do you know where you can check on just what is being sprayed? It used to be 
on a Dr. Horowitz' site as he was testing. They sprayed here all over the 
lakes and shortly thereafter many people had the flu.


So, Collodial Silver I would think would help?!

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CS>chemtrails


An observant person can collect the residue that falls on parked  vehicles 
the day following this kind of spraying.   There's no doubt  that it's 
particulate matter of some kind.   It's a pale yellowish oily  stuff that 
appears dry as dust to the eye, but streaks when wiped with  a cloth.   I 
don't know what it is or what it's for, but it's a  reality.   It's 
particularly obvious when you have more trails than  engines.


As for the oily aspect, when spraying is heavy, you can sometimes see a 
bizarre halo around the sun.  I've pointed this out to people on  several 
occasions, and they are typically startled.   It's  rainbow-like, but not 
beautiful.


If memory serves me I've even seen contrails and chemtrails on the same 
day, though I don't keep records of the sightings and wouldn't swear to 
this.  I'm positive that I've witnessed the high-altitude chemtrail 
flights concurrent with trail-less inbound and outbound commercial 
aircraft.   There are many videos of the activity that correspond with  my 
own observations.



On Thursday, Feb 14, 2008, at 06:03 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:

Yep, Ode is sticking his head in the sand on this one.  I DO know  about 
clouds, water, weather, and combustion, and that I why I know  that 
chemtrails and contrails are different things.  Contrails form  from the 
engine exhaust, and sometimes at the ends of the wings due to  the sudden 
pressure drop. Chemtrails come out of spray nozzles mounted  on different 
places on the plane, but never at the wing tips nor near  the engines on 
the ones I have seen.  Also con trails cannot fall to  the ground 
producing ground fog at low humidities during summer days,  which 
chemtrails often do.  I know the physics, I have a BS degree, I  am very 
knowledgeable about it all.


Marshall

joe bloggs wrote:


Ode Said:  scare the heck out of you with chemtrails so you'll flock  to 
their stores as you refuse to learn anything about clouds, water, 
weather and combustion principles.


It made me laugh to come across this just now.  It's a youtube video  of 
a German
TV news story about a military experiment and they've actually come 
clean that they
are in fact releasing chemical trails (chemtrails).  So you see Ode, 
you can sneer
- until the truth comes out.  Just a thought.  I don't actually speak 
German, so if anyone here does, can they
check this out and let me know if the written English translation is 
true?  Sorry, I know it's off-topic.  Won't do it again. slapped  wrists 
and all.  How do I get onto the off-topic site?

Frankie

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Re: CS> Re Distilled Water - 4 Feb

[leslie1053]

Where do you get a PWT? I would like to have an accurate tester. Mine tests 
PPM which I got from Utopia but question it's accuracy. Would like to know 
how much it cost also.

Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandee George" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: CS> Re Distilled Water - 4 Feb



Hi There Ken - I have a PWT which I test my water with, I only use water
which tests
at .02 - 8 at the most, I do not make EIS with water over this reading,
this is me and
how I do my thing, there are others who do not go to these lengths so
basically I dis-
till my own water - thanks for the enquiry.
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CS>about strengthening the lungs

[leslie1053]

Myself, I wonder about the ascorbic acid. Awhile back I heard someone say it 
was a chemical and we were better off taking the natural vitamin C. Also, if 
we take too much of this, could create radicals. Soo, I started thinking I 
best find the right kind of C.


I like Brewers Yeast and it is supposed to have all the B vitamins you need 
all in one package. When you mentioned the flakes, I wondered if was one and 
the same thing. I got mine at Beyond=a=century which is a very good, 
reputable company.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "faith gagne" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>about strengthening the lungs


What is it that you are wondering about, Brewers yeast, ascorbic acid or 
the company?  Thanks.


Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: "Leslie" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: CS>about strengthening the lungs



Puritans Pride has Brewers Yeast in the can Buy 2 get
3 free and just thru tomorrow is 42 cents postage
which is very unusual. They sent me an email if you
want I'll forward my email to you.

I got mine before from beyond-a-century in Maine. Also
got my ascorbic acid but wondering if that is
completely safe now.

Leslie



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Re: CS>Non-nutrative sweetner

[leslie1053]

why would it only be toxic for a dog and not humans?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gene Wolfe 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:14 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Non-nutrative sweetner


  Have you tried stevia? This is natural and the FDA refuses to approve it as a 
sweetener. For me that is a good recommendation.

  If you have a dog, xylitol is toxic, so be careful.

  Gene

  At 05:11 PM 2/4/2008, you wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: CS>Non-nutrative sweetner



  Has anyone tried erythritol as a calorie free sweetener? Looks 
interesting, expecially since it is not artificial, but a naturally occurring  
sweetner.

  Marshall


Marshall,
I don't think there's any "free ride" with sweeteners. Dr. Jerry Tennant 
says to avoid all sweeteners with "tol" in them, and I tend to agree with him. 
They are toxic to the body.

I do use xylitol, however, as a mouthwash.

Nenah 

Re: CS>Bad chest cold

[leslie1053]

One of the biggest things is to keep all bacteria out of your mouth with 
brushing with soap, rinsing with peroxide diluted, cepacol, etc. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: jessie70 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:06 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Bad chest cold


  What does the author advise for keeping good teeth? Jess
-Original Message-
From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


thanks again all for your help...debbie

leslie1053  wrote: 
  He wrote a book called "Good Teeth, Birth To Death" and if you google 
that it should be his website I think. 
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Deborah Gerard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


Does Dr. Judd have a article or a site where this could be read? thanks 
debbie

leslie1053  wrote: 
  I'll bet it would. Would be interesting for someone to try. I can't 
find it around here any more. 
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Deborah Gerard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


I wonder if this would work in a vaporizer...very interesting I 
wonder why this would work?

leslie1053  wrote: 
  I remember Dr. Judd telling a cure for pneumoniaTake Cepacol 
mouthwash and put in a little steaming water and breath deep into the lungs. 
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Deborah Gerard 
To: cs 
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: CS>Bad chest cold


How can I strengthen my lungs so I do not get another chest 
cold. These things lay me right out. I have been nubulizing with cs too. thanks 
in advance debbie 


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Re: CS>Bad chest cold

[leslie1053]

He wrote a book called "Good Teeth, Birth To Death" and if you google that it 
should be his website I think. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:14 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


  Does Dr. Judd have a article or a site where this could be read? thanks debbie

  leslie1053  wrote: 
I'll bet it would. Would be interesting for someone to try. I can't find it 
around here any more. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


  I wonder if this would work in a vaporizer...very interesting I wonder 
why this would work?

  leslie1053  wrote: 
I remember Dr. Judd telling a cure for pneumoniaTake Cepacol 
mouthwash and put in a little steaming water and breath deep into the lungs. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: CS>Bad chest cold


  How can I strengthen my lungs so I do not get another chest cold. 
These things lay me right out. I have been nubulizing with cs too. thanks in 
advance debbie 

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Re: CS>Bad chest cold

[leslie1053]

I'll bet it would. Would be interesting for someone to try. I can't find it 
around here any more. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Bad chest cold


  I wonder if this would work in a vaporizer...very interesting I wonder why 
this would work?

  leslie1053  wrote: 
I remember Dr. Judd telling a cure for pneumoniaTake Cepacol mouthwash 
and put in a little steaming water and breath deep into the lungs. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: CS>Bad chest cold


  How can I strengthen my lungs so I do not get another chest cold. These 
things lay me right out. I have been nubulizing with cs too. thanks in advance 
debbie 

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Re: CS>Bad chest cold

[leslie1053]

I remember Dr. Judd telling a cure for pneumoniaTake Cepacol mouthwash and 
put in a little steaming water and breath deep into the lungs. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: cs 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: CS>Bad chest cold


  How can I strengthen my lungs so I do not get another chest cold. These 
things lay me right out. I have been nubulizing with cs too. thanks in advance 
debbie


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Re: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[leslie1053]

Ha Ha! Yes Faith; guess I have had that love distiller also.
- Original Message - 
From: "bob Larson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)



...my ex-girlfriend.  heated me all up, kept it all and spit what was left
of me out into space as a cloud of mist with no substance of worth left.
love makes fools of us all, says willie.


-Original Message-
From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)


Hi Bob.  What is a love distiller?  Is it the same distiller that Leslie
recommended?  Thanks.  Faith G.


- Original Message -
From: "Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: FW: CS>Water Distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)


Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


I have a one of these love distillers. I like it and use it a lot.
Only thing I found is I get better Quality if I only fill it up with 3
quarts instead of 4.
I think when I fill it up the level is too close to the condenser unit
on top and some minerals get through.
I clean it with Vinegar and also just periodically let it boil for a
while, pull plug let it cool and pour out water.
This helps keep minerals from building up so bad in bottom boiler.

Bob



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Re: CS>home-made xolloidial silver

[leslie1053]

Started worrying me when I read the comments re battery operated ones. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: CS>home-made xolloidial silver




On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:27 PM, leslie1053 wrote:

I have to ask a question about another method called Utopia Silver. 
http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=10


It has 3 batteries and the silver is .. I mainly use my electric 
one but have given my utopia over to my daughter.

Thanks,
leslie



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Re: CS>home-made xolloidial silver

[leslie1053]

I have to ask a question about another method called Utopia Silver. 
http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=10


It has 3 batteries and the silver is .. I mainly use my electric one but 
have given my utopia over to my daughter.

Thanks,
leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "jessie70" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: CS>home-made xolloidial silver



Thank you Bob. I thought SOTA was a good machine.  Jess

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>home-made xolloidial silver


Jessie,

 The SOTA machine, like most other home machines, makes about 80% 
ionic
and 20% particulate silver.  Of course that assumes you use nothing else 
but

distilled water and .999 (or better) fine silver wire.  Having a stirrer
makes the solution even better with a higher ionic content.  The chances 
of

getting argyria from this solution are about nil you'd have to drink
gallons daily for many months for that to occur.  Never add salt or 
anything

else to the solution when you make it as you don't want silver chloride or
any other silver salt to form.  Argyria is usually caused by impurities in
the silver making compounds that are toxic to the body or whose molecules
are too large to be discharged and lodge in the skin as a result.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: "jessie70" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: CS>home-made xolloidial silver


Yvonne, I have a sota too but have bought silver in the health food 
stores

also. I don't think you can ever turn blue from spraying some on your
tongue
for a mouth rinse. I think you have to be drinking quantities over time.
My
unscientific opinion. Jess

-Original Message-
From: Yvonne Prete [mailto:yvonnepr...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>home-made xolloidial silver


I've been using a SOTA colloidial silver-maker for about six years.  I
rinse
with it, spray with it and drink a little of it.  I haven't turned blue
yet
but I understand that I could.  Now the input I'd like is: anyone else
using
SOTA and what do you think?  Is it making ionic colloidial silver or
small-particle colloidial silver?  Who votes for ionic and who votes for
small-particle?

I'll contribute a bit of anecdotal information:  I think I get a lot less
plaque if I rinse with my brand of CS but I haven't set up an experiment.
My son says his vet says my son's dogs are free of intestinal parasites
which he thinls is close to a miracle. They get some amount of SOTA
derived
colloidal silver in their drinking wat.  This is very unscientific.

Yvonne


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Re: CS>CS - UFO Sightings ??????????

[leslie1053]

Just shows how informative this group is. Our moderator only lets us carry 
on discussions to a certain point. Maybe you are much smarter than me but I 
am kinda dumb and not many people tell things like this and I want to learn. 
Don't worry, I am getting in my thank yous and questions before he stops it. 
LOL

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Jerome Karl" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: CS>CS - UFO Sightings ??



I am one of the groups major lurkers. I joined this group several
years ago and have learned much from it.
BUT, try as I may, I can't seem to find the connection
between CS and UFO Sightings.
Do the ALIENS have a better way of making CS than we do ???
Could someone HELP me to understand it.
Thank you,
Jerry


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Re: CS>UFO sighting

[leslie1053]

Wow. I didn't realize this had been happening that many years ago.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ernie Patai 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:49 AM
  Subject: CS>UFO sighting


  Hello Listers,

   

  I don't post often and although is I'm sure will become off topic; I'd like 
to share my experience as a 5 year old child.

  I had just arrived from overseas landing in Montreal, Canada- 1969. I was 
getting a bath from my dad in one of those motels where you share bathrooms 
when we started hearing great commotion outside. As he dried me off quickly, 
got me dressed and decided to go out; It was dark at this point and raining. We 
stood under the awning trying to figure out why everyone had stopped driving 
their cars and got out to look up. When we looked up we didn't see anything at 
first.

  Because I was small all I could see were two walls of buildings acting as a 
horizon. Then all of a sudden we heard a loud humming noise coming from over 
head and then appeared a "saucer" like shape with a glowing red light hovering 
what seemed to me like right over the street. It was unmistakable because it 
seemed like it was literally over our heads even though it may have been 
hundreds of feet up. Nobody moved. Everyone and their uncles were outside 
watching. In as much as the instant it arrived, it' also disappeared over the 
horizon of buildings. All I could think of."why doesn't this look like anything 
that I know." Like the plane that I just arrived in. So I asked my dad what was 
it; he said it was a spaceship. I asked again what was inside. He told me 
spacemen.

  I couldn't make any reference. 

   

  Remarkable or perhaps unremarkable; this story never made the news, or 
headlines and was never spoken of the next day, not even by locals.

   

  So, I believe they are true, and to this day I can recall the story in detail 
as to the events which took place 39 years ago.

   

  Why then would a 5 year old remember such an odd event as a kid when there 
are so many other things to preoccupy a kids mind.

   

  Ernie

   

   

   

   

Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment

[leslie1053]

Is Yakima in Texas? Never heard of it so was wondering. This is amazing and 
terrible at the same time. Thank you for contributing the info.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:20 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas: Comment


  Subject ufo

  My husband and I were traveling to Yakima where we lived, it was about 
11:30pm we were on the freeway(freeway goes through the military res)  when all 
of a sudden something was firing small bits of fire at us almost as if it were 
bullets but no noise nothing hit the car.  It was so bad and lasted so long it 
drove us off the road.  It came at us from above the windshield. 

   Another incidence at the same spot, little round crafts,looked like dinner 
plates, constantly dove at out car swooped out of no where and dove time and 
again, there were many of them.  needless to say we again were driven off the 
freeway and were as scared as he..

  after that we never traveled at nite.

  Mary


-- Original message from Vigilius Haufniensis 
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> Clayton Family wrote: 
> > Many years ago I saw a ufo in southern calif, but not close up- still 
> > it did not behave according to the laws of physics I grew up with- it 
> > did the sudden change of direction and accellerated much faster than 
> > anything I had ever seen, faster than was possible. Almost like it 
> > disappeared, then reappeared much much farther away. This sounds 
> > like it was a much closer view. 
> 
> 
> 
> VMANN: aether physics is suppressed. not only for military industrial 
> considerations, but for pharmaceutical undistrial considerations as 
> well. thomas townsend brown was levitating disc shaped metallic objects 
> as early as 1926. he ca! lled it "electrogravitics." heh. 
> vigilus haufniensis 
> wilhelm reich was disabling these craft in 1957. can you imagine the 
> shock and horror at langley? LOL. 
> 
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Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas

[leslie1053]

Seems they have questioned if the real thing but I don't know. I live in 
Texas so let me know if you hear anything. I live on the East side tho by 
La.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandee George" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: CS>OT - 23 Jan - UFO Sightings in Texas



Hi there to all, anyone heard about the above ?I was just told and
googled it, boy are there reports
all over the place, I wonder why Texas at this time !!!???   LOL
Sandee

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Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans

[leslie1053]

I had been told it was through fibers in cotton sheets, even q tips! ??? I 
would be interested in finding out about where??

Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>MMS ane Morgellans



I have no idea. I simply came across that page while searching.

Marshall

mborg...@att.net wrote:


dear marshall,

thank you for the update, this is truly scarey.

I read through some of coffee-cup's info but i did not come across how 
they aquired the morgellions.  Do you know?


Mary

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>
> http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1079393
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Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

[leslie1053]

i've been getting mail from them for over 6 months and no problem. Think any 
sites with frames which includes most news sites are warned that there is a 
possibility of problems.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies


  I was just going to subscribe to the News Target Insider E-Mail Newsletter, 
but my Virus protection immediately warned me against the site.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:37 AM
Subject: CS>FDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies




 http://www.newstarget.com/022499.html 

Re: CS>Middle Ear Infection

[leslie1053]

Hi, I put CS in my ear. It takes care of it; may have to do it a few times.
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "G Murray" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: CS>Middle Ear Infection



Hi All,

I  seem to have an infection running in my inner ear.  I woke up 4 days 
ago with a plugged right ear.  Over the course of an hour or so it 
progressively built up more pressure.  It did not exactly hurt like an 
ear ache just felt like my ear would explode.  I let IES and hydrogen 
peroxide sit in the ear for 10 minutes or so, but had to leave.  It was 
still plugged at that time but slowly seemed to get better over the 
course of a few hours where it seemed to clear and I could hear again.  
The next day, I went to talk with a pharmacist who claimed that it was 
a  middle ear infection and unless I wanted antibiotics, that a 
decongestant to dry it up would likely be the only thing that helps.   I 
did not take the decongestant that day, but I did mix alcohol with the 
Hp and IES hoping that if it was water this would dry out the ear 
canal.  Did not feel much difference.   I went to another pharmacist who 
said to use an anti-histamine to dry it up.  I stopped the IES and Hp 
for 24 hours while I was on the benadryl and decongestant, but now 
instead of feeling just plugged, I can now feel a little ear ache.  So 
this afternoon I put more peroxide and silver in my ear again.  It  has 
not felt any better since that time.  It has been about 4.5 hours.  The 
peroxide did fizz this time where it never really did the first couple 
of days. 

Is there some other treatments that I can try?  I really don't want to 
see a doctor.  I have thought about colostrum, but it is hard to find in 
this town and it is very expensive.  What about oregano oil would that 
be of any use?  Nutribiotic with citricidal(grapefruit seed extract))?


G Murray


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Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?

[leslie1053]

All I have heard is that it is supposed to cure cancer?? CS doesn't do that 
as far as I know. I love CS but it does have a few limitations. I do good 
just to make the CS.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>MMs hoax or cure?


What exactly do you feel the MMS does that CS cannot do? This is where I 
don't quite get it.
I read of people using it for many things that CS or CS/DMSO take care of 
perfectly well. Why would I use MMS in preference to CS?


sol

His Child wrote:

 I'm taking MMS now and have not been able
to feel this good in many years.  I slept only 4 hours
last night like a baby and did NOT get any tired
letdown feeling all the next day.  I've been taking
MMS for a couple of weeks now, and it's a powerful (be
careful of not overdoing it) but great health aid.





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Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[leslie1053]

I remember putting a drop of clorox in a gallon of water when I would save it; 
then I heard of iodine and started putting a drop of that in the gallon to 
save. Only thing, most of my gallons began to leak so my efforts went by the 
wayside. 

If my memory might serve me now, it was on Hulda Clark's site where I read that 
clorox was cancer causing. How could something causing cancer be good for us to 
take internally. What are they mixing to make the MMS? I just like to know what 
I'm taking even if it is poison. 

Thanks,
Leslie 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugitt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:27 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?


  Evening Leslie,

  >> At 06:36 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote:

Does that MMS have chlorine in it? Is this the same as Clorox??

What is so bad about Clorox ?  It is a life saving material and one can 
drink it.  But not much.

  I carried a small bottle around in my pack, 50 years ago to purify water when 
spending a day or a day and night in the swamp.

  In addition, I used it to sterilize milk containers when I was selling milk.  
Fact is, they would not buy it if the bacteria count was not low, .. I 
do not remember the count.

  Here is how much to use to purify water.
  1 gallon of Clorox will treat 38,000 gallons of water.
  Amount of Clorox for Purification 
  2 drops of Regular Clorox Bleach per quart of water 
  8 drops of Regular Clorox Bleach per gallon of water 

  As I stated, Chlorine is not an enemy, but a friend, and always has been.  

  Back to your question,
  Chlorine has many forms, as do all other elements.  Not being a chemist, I 
cannot tell you.

  Marshall can make it all Crystal Clear.

  The form that most are spooked by is Chlorine Dioxide.
  The beauty and genius of MMS, is that this is made in the body, only a few 
ppm.
  1 ppm per drop per hour, I believe.

  Most cannot even imagine this.  For example consider the below.

  I mix plant nutrients from 100 to 300 ppm for
  N, P, and K, plus Mg, and Ca. ( and  many trace minerals )

  This is over 500 ppm.  My dog will Drink it ! No questions asked.  Likely 
over 600 ppm total.

  I have drank it also, and can barely taste the chemicals.

  If anyone thinks a few ppm or anything is a hazard, ...
  most poison materials will not even hurt.

  The only one I know that is highly toxic is Risine made from the Tung Oil 
Tree.  The amount on a pin head will kill several men.  Bad News... for 
sure.

  Likely we get more toxic items every day than the few ppm of
  Chlorine Dioxide.

  And... it is not the Same as Clorox.  But no matter if it was.

  If you are scared to death of Chlorine, you need to learn of its value to 
plants, all animals, and humans.

  Likely we would all die without it.

  Wayne

  =

Re: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?

[leslie1053]

Does that MMS have chlorine in it? Is this the same as Clorox??

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Fugitt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: CS>MMS, Chlorine Toxic ? Or NOT ?



Evening Sol,

>> At 04:39 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote:

I hate to be the first to tell you, ...


I'm VERY wary of chlorine in ANY form
my CS. Which, unlike chlorine, is not toxic.


  You are way behind in your study of Nutrients and many other things.

Chlorine is an essential nutrient, required by all plants, all animals, 
and all humans.


What you said is like saying, .
"Water is Toxic and will kill you".

Water, Fire, and I think Ozone might kill you.

The very stuff you are talking about is FDA approved for many things, 
washing chicken, washing other meat, and use in

drinking Water.

Chlorine is a blessing, just like water.  You best get some every day, 
from whatever source you want.


People use chlorinated water for plants, for years, and never have any 
trouble from it.


Going off half cocked, without knowing the facts, is what turns people 
blue, and gives a bad name to a good material.

And you are doing that to Chlorine.

Just how many people in the world have taken MMS with zero problems from 
the chlorine.  Actually, it is Chlorine Dioxide, as you should know.


Of course it may be Toxic in specific concentrations and will kill man and 
beast.


I understand it is SO TOXIC, it cannot even be shipped, and must be 
manufactured where it is used.


I only wonder if you avoid every toxic substance on the planet?

Wayne


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Just did a search on nebulizers for sale and here is the link:
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Re: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing

[leslie1053]

This sounds interesting and I would like to try with the DMSO and CS first 
but was wondering what you would clean your machine with?
- Original Message - 
From: "Gail Naranjo" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: CS>CS/DMSO/nebulizing





:

From: Scott 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nebulizing with CS/MSM/DMSO

Just a few words about using DMSO with CS in a
nebulizer. 

We use a 20:80 ratio of

20% DMSO to 80% CS.

==

Good point, Scott.  I've never nebulized with DMSO,
but have always heard the ratio is only 10%, and that
a lot of coughing will result with it until you get
the lungs cleared out.

Always use caution.

Gail




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Re: CS>How much is too much?/was Kathryn..Potassium/now Debbie, Leslie, Smitty, Faith

[leslie1053]

That's quite a list of things a deficiency in Potassium causes; like cancer?? 
Wow. I have been having my muscle spasms more lately and thought I'd gotten rid 
of them a couple of years ago; have gained weight, blood pressure is above 
normal most of the time, weakness, fatigue and occasional chest pains. Only 
thing for sure I don't have is constipation as I believe in acidolphus! LOL 

Thanks and I don't have any so gonna get some very soon.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:58 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>How much is too much?/was Kathryn..Potassium/now Debbie, 
Leslie, Smitty, Faith


  Jodi send the aritcle to me privately I would love to read it thanks...debbie

  Jodi  wrote: 
 Deborah Gerard wrote: 

> I don't know why the dosage on the bottles that we buy is soo extremely 
low but it isn't nearly enough...so glad you are doing good Jodi



Thank you Debbie. And I was shocked about how low the dosage is, too. 
According to my bottle of potassium, one 99 mg. caplet (I'm taking potassium 
gluconate) is 3% of the "daily value". So, I guess the recommended amount as a 
supplement is currently around 3,300 mg. daily (3% of 3,300 = 90). But, it's a 
known fact that the RDA of most nutrients is way too low. One could easily 
deplete oneself of 3,300 mg. of potassium in just a few hours on a hot day, 
simply by sweating. Then we would end up tapping and depleting our 'potassium 
stores' (potassium stored in and outside our cells) which is supposed to stay 
above 4000 mmol or 72,000 mg. I guess they expect us to either eat bananas all 
day long, or pop these little pills like crazy, which is exactly what I've 
resorted to. [grin] 

Leslie: Potassium deficiency symptoms and diseases associated with or 
caused by potassium deficiency: 

Constipation; weakness; fatigue; irregular heartbeat; heart disease; 
inflammation; high blood pressure; muscle cramps, muscle pain, muscle numbness; 
muscle weakness and/or muscle spasms; diabetes; weight gain; rheumatoid 
arthritis; cancer. 

One of the reasons they keep telling us to eat fruit and vegetables is 
because of the potassium content. If you don't eat alot of fruits and veggies, 
and you aren't taking diuretics, and you don't have adrenal issues, or kidney 
disease, then you should somehow supplement potassium. 




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Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma

[leslie1053]

Hi Karen,

Did your friend have any success in reducing the size?
- Original Message - 
From: "Karen Eck" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma



Does anyone have information on CS and cancer, specifically sarcoma?
This one that my aunt has is called pleomorphic malignant histiocytoma.
The tumor is now exposed and went from golf ball size under the skin,
to 1/2 a large orange sitting on top of the skin after trying black 
salve -

in two months it increased that much.
She's taking a some tonics (for 10 days now) from
http://sacredmedicinesanctuary.com
modeled after Hoxsey and Eli Jones called Sundance and Algonquin.
We have sprayed CS on it and CS with DMSO, but not consistently.
She's also going to see about going ahead with surgery and radiation,
but the holidays are really getting in the way of trying to get something 
done in that respect.
So she's got 5 days to hit it with something and see if she can get some 
shrinkage of it.


Thanks,
Karen

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Re: CS>How much is too much?/Kathryn..Potassium

[leslie1053]

I have missed something as I did not realize we needed so much Potassium. 
Can you tell me the benefits to taking a lot?


Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Jodi" 

To: 
Cc: "Deborah Gerard" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>How much is too much?/Kathryn..Potassium



Hi Deb -

I don't know about 8,000, but I'm up to 5,600 mg. of potassium a day, and 
have gone as high as maybe 6,300 or 7,000 so far.  Not sure exactly how 
much I take on some days (could be more) because I'm not worried about it 
hurting me so I lose track.  I take doses of 700 at a time, and it has 
helped me tremendously.  My blood pressure came down 45 points, and all 
the inflammation that I had suddenly developed in my lower legs is gone. 
No negative side effects at all.


Hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Jodi



 Deborah Gerard  wrote:
I read somewhere that we are supposed to take really large doses of 
potassium somewhere around 8,000 mg can anyone comment on this? thanks 
debbie



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Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link

[leslie1053]

How would one go about starting a co-op? Should be able to get several around 
here that would like to participate. In a rinky dink town. 
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link


  I would check with your local co-op as I did, they have it or they can get it 
  cheeper.  It is not the price it is the freight that hurts.  I paid 1.32 lb

-- Original message from Dave : 
-- 

I would use it experimentally but would have to make it myself.
Global light has it for ONLY $100.00 a gallon.
Dave


    leslie1053 wrote: 
  Mary, are you making your own magnesium oil?? Can I order from that place 
also? I have some from Clark Chemical which is the magnesium chloride but the 
nurse from IMVA told me to immediately get all the magnesium in my body 
possible and recommended the oil but was too expensive for me.

  Thanks,
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: mborg...@att.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link


Paula,

I make my own oil.  It is called Nigari, I get the kind from Japan and 
not from China.  

The formula is 1 cup of Nigari to 4 cups of water heat up a little and 
there you have it.

I pay 1.32 lb and get it from my local co op.  No freight involved.

Mary


  -- Original message from "Paula Perry" 
: -- 



  This is where I ordered magnesium oil and bath chrystals. 
Unfortunately, the site is being updated and not working. You can call
  480-874-1879
  or
  1-800-481-9987 and then press "1" to order or ask questions about 
products. She was very friendly when I called and ordered. Seemed happy to 
answer questions.
  http://ihsite.com/
  Paula

Re: CS>Elevated liver enzymes in a dog

[leslie1053]

Hi Heather,

I was going over some mail and saw yours and wondering how your dog is doing? I 
recently got some Milk Thistle as has always been a good liver cleanser, so 
thinking that should do it as well as CS for any viruses or bacteria. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Heather King (LCA) 
  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:54 AM
  Subject: CS>Elevated liver enzymes in a dog


  Hi All,

   

  My beloved Andy is a 10 year old double-merle border collie who has recently 
had his second geriatric blood panel done. I was looking to ease his arthritis 
with a prescription NSAID, but when the panel came back with all 4 of the 
enzyme levels high (2 were moderate last year), we couldn't do the 
anti-inflammatory after all. So, we opted to try a month on Sam-E and Milk 
Thistle, and the numbers have gone down, but not very much. The vet is 
recommending an ultrasound & biopsy. So I guess I have a few questions:

   

  Does CS do much for the liver? Anyone have a dog whose liver recovered with 
remedies other than drug therapy? Anything particularly effective? Should I be 
expecting better results with the Sam-E than I'm getting? (I was told it would 
help with joint pain and help detox the liver...). He hasn't been diagnosed 
with Hepatitis; the doc just described it as similar to cirrhosis or weakening. 
I don't understand that, really...

   

  Perhaps I'm hesitant to do the biopsy because I had a dog who was living with 
cancer diagnosed, but then I opted for the biopsy, which seemed to "awaken" the 
cancer cells in the tumor so that it exploded in growth and I had to put the 
dog down much sooner than expected. Not looking to repeat that.

   

  And last but not least: any thoughts on a diet that a liver-sick dog will 
eat? He turns his nose up at nearly everything these days. Frustrating...

   

  Thanks for any advice.

  Heather

   

Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link

[leslie1053]

Mary, are you making your own magnesium oil?? Can I order from that place also? 
I have some from Clark Chemical which is the magnesium chloride but the nurse 
from IMVA told me to immediately get all the magnesium in my body possible and 
recommended the oil but was too expensive for me.

Thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Transdermal Magnesium Products link


  Paula,

  I make my own oil.  It is called Nigari, I get the kind from Japan and not 
from China.  

  The formula is 1 cup of Nigari to 4 cups of water heat up a little and there 
you have it.

  I pay 1.32 lb and get it from my local co op.  No freight involved.

  Mary


-- Original message from "Paula Perry" : 
-- 



This is where I ordered magnesium oil and bath chrystals. Unfortunately, 
the site is being updated and not working. You can call
480-874-1879
or
1-800-481-9987 and then press "1" to order or ask questions about products. 
She was very friendly when I called and ordered. Seemed happy to answer 
questions.
http://ihsite.com/
Paula

Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome

[leslie1053]

Thanks girls. If I can help ya'll, just let me know.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


  Unfortunately we live in the boon docks and only have dial up available so 
listening or watching video's isn't a good option.  Am interested in the 
product though.  Plan to look it up.  Think Paula is sending a link if she can 
find it.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
    From: leslie1053 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


Do you have the link to listen to his tape? I would like to. I got some 
magnesium chloride from Clark Chemical and they say is fine to take internally 
but I just take a pinch daily. Don't much know what I'm doing but that seems to 
help relax me anyway.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


  Hi Mary,
  Thanks for sending me the site to go to. I really like Dr. Marcus from 
his newsletters. I haven't bought his book but I have read a lot from his 
letters and have one of his tapes on transdermal magnesium. I am glad to hear 
that you benifited from the magnesium as well. He is writing a book on his 
cancer treatment and I think he has finished writing a booklet on Iodine. I am 
looking forward to getting copies of them.
  Paula
- Original Message - 
From: mborg...@att.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


Paula,

Yes he answers his mail, which surprised me as well.  I have his book 
on transdermal magnesium therapy read it and reread it.

He is also on the curezone site under magnesium.

There is a site--www. mgwater.com, this site is where I started to 
learn about the need for magnesium.  I was in an accident years ago, the docs 
insisted on me taking antidepressant drugs for they said I was clinically 
depressed, I said no, but in reading up on magnesium I see all of my symptoms.  
All the years wasted trying to find out what was wrong with me.

Brooks Bradley also wrote a long piece on magnesium.

Mary


  -- Original message from "Dianne France" 
: -- 


  Paula

  He answered Mary and she gave me the web site.  I signed up for his 
newsletters and it also had a spot you could contact them and that is where I 
asked my question.  I wrote about the syndrome and hopefully he will give a 
reply.  Mary said he did answer hers.  This isn't for me personally but a very 
good friend of our sons.  Our sons friend (former boss) isn't familiar with 
homeopathic approaches but the doctors aren't able to do much for him.  Kelly, 
son, knows this group has given answers to other problems that work so he asked 
me to ask.

  Magnesium oil is one I don't have.  Is that essential oil form?  Did 
you get that from YL?  If so I will get my girlfriend to order some for me.  
Aches and pains are frequent around here and I'm sure my husband would also be 
appreciative of the help in that department.

  Dianne

- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


Hi Diane.
I get the newsletter from Mark Sircus OMD. I was surprised that he 
answered your email. I didn't know he would answer questions. Just wondering if 
you have tried the magnesium oil? I got some and have seen some fairly good 
results with my husbands aches and pains.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


  Dianne,

  I also was looking for information on this particular disease.

  I emailed Mark Sircus OMD @  

  www.imva.info

  He gave me information and told me what to give to my friend and 
how to take it.

  Mary

Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome

[leslie1053]

Do you have the link to listen to his tape? I would like to. I got some 
magnesium chloride from Clark Chemical and they say is fine to take internally 
but I just take a pinch daily. Don't much know what I'm doing but that seems to 
help relax me anyway.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


  Hi Mary,
  Thanks for sending me the site to go to. I really like Dr. Marcus from his 
newsletters. I haven't bought his book but I have read a lot from his letters 
and have one of his tapes on transdermal magnesium. I am glad to hear that you 
benifited from the magnesium as well. He is writing a book on his cancer 
treatment and I think he has finished writing a booklet on Iodine. I am looking 
forward to getting copies of them.
  Paula
- Original Message - 
From: mborg...@att.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


Paula,

Yes he answers his mail, which surprised me as well.  I have his book on 
transdermal magnesium therapy read it and reread it.

He is also on the curezone site under magnesium.

There is a site--www. mgwater.com, this site is where I started to learn 
about the need for magnesium.  I was in an accident years ago, the docs 
insisted on me taking antidepressant drugs for they said I was clinically 
depressed, I said no, but in reading up on magnesium I see all of my symptoms.  
All the years wasted trying to find out what was wrong with me.

Brooks Bradley also wrote a long piece on magnesium.

Mary


  -- Original message from "Dianne France" 
: -- 


  Paula

  He answered Mary and she gave me the web site.  I signed up for his 
newsletters and it also had a spot you could contact them and that is where I 
asked my question.  I wrote about the syndrome and hopefully he will give a 
reply.  Mary said he did answer hers.  This isn't for me personally but a very 
good friend of our sons.  Our sons friend (former boss) isn't familiar with 
homeopathic approaches but the doctors aren't able to do much for him.  Kelly, 
son, knows this group has given answers to other problems that work so he asked 
me to ask.

  Magnesium oil is one I don't have.  Is that essential oil form?  Did you 
get that from YL?  If so I will get my girlfriend to order some for me.  Aches 
and pains are frequent around here and I'm sure my husband would also be 
appreciative of the help in that department.

  Dianne

- Original Message - 
From: Paula Perry 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


Hi Diane.
I get the newsletter from Mark Sircus OMD. I was surprised that he 
answered your email. I didn't know he would answer questions. Just wondering if 
you have tried the magnesium oil? I got some and have seen some fairly good 
results with my husbands aches and pains.
Paula
  - Original Message - 
  From: mborg...@att.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Guillain-Barr syndrome


  Dianne,

  I also was looking for information on this particular disease.

  I emailed Mark Sircus OMD @  

  www.imva.info

  He gave me information and told me what to give to my friend and how 
to take it.

  Mary

Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma

[leslie1053]

Sounds interesting. I am going to read through as I need t o get rid of a tumor 
I have on my arm and wondering if I have a bladder/kidney problem starting. 
Don't know the symtoms you would have if cancer and I recently had blood tests 
with nothing showing up, but would cancer necessarily show up in a normal blood 
test? Thanks for any advice you might give. Leslie 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cancer - Sarcoma


  Take a look at this link,I used their information to stop three cancerous 
growths and believe they are right on.
  One was in the bladder area,one on the skin and one in my jaw about the size 
of a walnut.
  Dave


  http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm#alkalinity





  Smitty wrote: 
Does anyone have information on CS and cancer, specifically sarcoma?
This one that my aunt has is called pleomorphic malignant histiocytoma.
The tumor is now exposed and went from golf ball size under the skin,
to 1/2 a large orange sitting on top of the skin after trying black salve -
in two months it increased that much.
She's taking a some tonics (for 10 days now) from
http://sacredmedicinesanctuary.com
modeled after Hoxsey and Eli Jones called Sundance and Algonquin.
We have sprayed CS on it and CS with DMSO, but not consistently.
She's also going to see about going ahead with surgery and radiation,
but the holidays are really getting in the way of trying to get
something done in that respect.
So she's got 5 days to hit it with something and see if she can get
some shrinkage of it.

Thanks,
Karen
]]
You might look here=

http://tinyurl.com/28da3p

Smitty


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Re: CS>Exceptions

[leslie1053]

Interesting. Thanks.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perry 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:27 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


  I have found that rubbing a small amount of oregano oil to be very effective 
in killing infection in the mouth. 
  Paula
- Original Message - 
From: leslie1053 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


That is funny re the skeletons! They do have all their teeth. LOL 

But, thought of Dr. Judd's book we should all read:

Good Teeth, Birth to Death
Just do a search and should come up. I learned a lot, but have packed away 
somewhere now. Wish I had learned these things say 40 to 50 years ago.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


Hi Gail. :)I often watch those shows as well, usually discovery or something 
similar.I've come to the conclusion that its more about genetic make up and as 
you say, diet.Did you ever see those Tibetans or remote village Africans smile 
for the cameras. Would beatany TV tooth whitening commercial model hands down. 
Not doubt the nearest doctor or dentist is by plane ride.   Vitamin D and 
exposure to sun probably playsas a factor as well.   From: Carol Ann 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: 
CS>Exceptions> > I wonder what accounts for the millions of skeletal> remains 
wherein they had all their teeth when they> were found.Certainly, they 
didn't go to their> village "dentists" for oral hygiene checkups and> routine
 xrays. > >Hi Carol Ann,No, I'm sure they probably didn't, but I would 
bewilling to bet lifestyle also played a big part in theequation.  I seriously 
doubt they had access to cokeand sweets that we do today.  Diet would certainly 
play into it as well as personal hygiene? I will often watch trible life on tv 
and am mostcurious about their eating habits.

  Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html 


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Re: CS>Exceptions

[leslie1053]

No, not heard of any damaging effects, but I have none and did this for 
quite awhile since I had 3 or4 absesses at one time. One not sure about 
since the cap came off a root canal but we suspected (dentist and I). I had 
two pulled that day and never had the others taken care of and that was 
almost 3 yrs ago and they don't hurt. Wow, best thing that ever happened for 
me. I was trying to find some more cepacol but Wal mart no longer handles it 
here.


What Carol Ann mentioned about a swollen pocket sounds like infection in 
there so she will have to hurry and get that gone. I also took CS by mouth 
daily. but at that time thought I should only take a couple of tablespoons. 
I do make my own but since all the talk lately am wondering if I should 
change anything??

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


I read somewhere a long time ago that the alcohol in mouthwashes causes 
tissue damage over time.

Ever heard anything about that?
I use diluted peroxide, and my CS.
Might also look into info at Oramedia. I bought my husband a Viajet with 
cannula attachment for getting CS or water/peroxide deep into his gum 
pockets. But so far he hasn't used the cannula, too chicken. LOL

sol

leslie1053 wrote:
Cleaning all bacteria out of mouth and keeping clean is the answer. Do 
you have any cepacol mouthwash? If he can hold in the mouth for 5 min. 
and then spit out, is a tremendous help. Also, you can use Hydrogen 
Peroxide diluted a little with water. Any mouthwash with alcohol would 
help. LOL He doesn't swallow but that alcohol kills the bacteria.



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Re: CS>Exceptions

[leslie1053]

Cleaning all bacteria out of mouth and keeping clean is the answer. Do you have 
any cepacol mouthwash? If he can hold in the mouth for 5 min. and then spit 
out, is a tremendous help. Also, you can use Hydrogen Peroxide diluted a little 
with water. Any mouthwash with alcohol would help. LOL He doesn't swallow but 
that alcohol kills the bacteria. 

Leslie 

If pain, ground cloves put on gums helps a ton.
  - Original Message - 
  From: gmetrop...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


  any ideas on resolving an abcess in the gum of an 8 year old? He has no pain 
but a visible bump in the gum on the exterior side which is above a previously 
filled tooth. I have tried Cs oral and topical and homeopathic remedies. 
Homeopathics have always worked with 2 of my other children for the same with 
amazing results. 


  **
  See AOL's top rated recipes 
(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) 

Re: CS>Exceptions

[leslie1053]

That is funny re the skeletons! They do have all their teeth. LOL 

But, thought of Dr. Judd's book we should all read:

Good Teeth, Birth to Death
Just do a search and should come up. I learned a lot, but have packed away 
somewhere now. Wish I had learned these things say 40 to 50 years ago.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:26 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Exceptions


Hi Gail. :)I often watch those shows as well, usually discovery or something 
similar.I've come to the conclusion that its more about genetic make up and as 
you say, diet.Did you ever see those Tibetans or remote village Africans smile 
for the cameras. Would beatany TV tooth whitening commercial model hands down. 
Not doubt the nearest doctor or dentist is by plane ride.   Vitamin D and 
exposure to sun probably playsas a factor as well.   From: Carol Ann 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: 
CS>Exceptions> > I wonder what accounts for the millions of skeletal> remains 
wherein they had all their teeth when they> were found.Certainly, they 
didn't go to their> village "dentists" for oral hygiene checkups and> routine
 xrays. > >Hi Carol Ann,No, I'm sure they probably didn't, but I would 
bewilling to bet lifestyle also played a big part in theequation.  I seriously 
doubt they had access to cokeand sweets that we do today.  Diet would certainly 
play into it as well as personal hygiene? I will often watch trible life on tv 
and am mostcurious about their eating habits.

  Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html


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Re: CS>mold report

[leslie1053]

Where might I get this 0o0? I'm waiting on replacement and had lots of 
plumbing problems; probably have those spores all over from top to bottom.


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS>mold report


Although it may sound a bit far-fetched, there may be a very simple way to 
alleviate this problem:  oil of oregano, heated on an "aroma stone" to 
disperse the vapors widely.


OoO seems to penetrate widely and deeply, and may kill spores in 
carpeting, drapes, and even wallpaper.   I've never studied this in 
detail, but I've used this essential oil and have been really surprised by 
the benefits.It has the additional merit of being fairly low-cost, and 
smells pleasant and clean.


It's worth a try.   I think you'd notice an immediate difference.  If so, 
let us know.







On Friday, Dec 7, 2007, at 07:55 Asia/Tokyo, Clayton Family wrote:

Everytime I go through this, there are some things I forget, like how 
mold is more like radiation than about spores.


My leak under the sink got fixed. Next I suited up and stripped the old 
square floor tiles out of the cabinet, where the water had seeped under 
and rotted the cabinet floor. Then I cleaned it up with borax, and left 
it sprinkled around in case of any further mold growth. The ozone machine 
went under there, and I turned it on.


However, I am still having problems. I realized (even with my foggy toxin 
loaded brain) that I have a toxic mold factory going on down there. The 
affected wood will have to be physically removed, then the area sealed 
with either a wood sealer or something like that, before a new floor for 
the cabinet can go back in. Then I can run the aranizer to deal with the 
stray mold spores, etc.


The handyman will be here Monday, God willing.  Maybe by next weekend 
health progress will once again be possible. For now, it is a losing 
battle to tread water. Here's hoping for a happy holiday!


Breathing in the toxins damages the lining of the gut ( maybe through the 
sinuses), and causes digestion problems, leading to all kinds of misery. 
I am getting some help from the probiotics and supplements I used to use 
for the chronic fatigue I used to have, and have again due to the new 
mold exposure. I heard an interview by dr Croft who has been in the field 
for a few decades now. He's a medical pathologist, and dead bodies don't 
lie. Fascinating man. He said to get some ammonia to detoxify the mold, 
and use for remediation.


Kathryn


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Re: CS>Rebuttals please

[leslie1053]

I found out that mercury depletes selenium. Just thought I'd throw that in. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: marmar...@bellsouth.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:29 PM
  Subject: CS>Rebuttals please



-- Original message from "Dianne France" 
: -- 


MarMar

Do you know the state where this person resides?  Is the area he stables 
his horse selenium deprived?  The CS might not be a factor. 

 Hi Dianne.  No -- I don't know where this person lives.  The same 
thought crossed my mind -- that the selenium deficiency was a result of forage 
or feed that was selenium-deficient.  I highly doubt that CS is a factor, but 
rather is being misconstrued as the culprit.  I was hoping that the 
knowledgeable folks here could debunk the theory with facts -- so that I could 
go back with an intelligent rebuttal, and suggest other causes.  Thanks for 
your thoughts -- they're good ones.  MA

Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[leslie1053]

Ugh! But I might just try on my tumor. It doesn't seem to be going away 
using the DMSO mixed with CS. It probably is helping a little bit but I just 
can't see it yet. I wonder how you might mix up the soda to inject?? I would 
have to get a tiny needle and perhaps insert on edges??


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: "CS" 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: CS>Treating Lipomas



Several people wrote that they would like any info about treating lipomas.

This protocol feels that "cancer is a fungus" and treats cancers and 
tumors with sodium bicarbonate.  Apparently one could inject the lipomas 
with a solution of sodium bicarbonate.


I have not tried this yet.

Dan


From the FAQ:

Q)  Could you please explain how to treat lipomas?

A)  In my opinion lipomas are like cystis caused by fungi.
If they are big they are to be treated with direct
injections into the lumps, otherwise around them.




http://houseofstrauss.co.uk/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=570

Addendum: A Note on Cancer Treatment
The implications from my hypothesis that cancer is a fungus
which can be eradicated with sodium bicarbonate are that:
1) eighty years of genetic study and application has been
for nothing, especially considering that the genetic theory
of cancer has never been demonstrated;
2) the loss of millions, if not billions, of lives with all
the suffering has been for nothing;
3) the billions of dollars spent on chemotherapy medicine,
radiotherapy, etc. has been for nothing;
4) the recognition and prizes given to eminent researchers
and professors has been for nothing;
5) the oncologist could be replaced by the family doctor; and
6) the pharmaceutical industry will incur tremendous
financial losses (sodium bicarbonate is inexpensive and
impossible to patent).
My methods have cured people for 20 years. Many of my
patients recovered completely from cancer, even in cases
where official oncology had given up.
The best way to try to eliminate a tumour is to bring it
into contact with sodium bicarbonate, as closely as
possible, i.e., using oral administration for the digestive
tract, an enema for the rectum, douching for the vagina and
uterus, intravenous injection for the lung and the brain,
and inhalation for the upper airways. Breasts, lymph nodes
and subcutaneous lumps can be treated with local perfusions.
The internal organs can be treated with sodium bicarbonate
by locating suitable catheters in the arteries (of the
liver, pancreas, prostate and limbs) or in the cavities (of
the pleura or peritoneum). (Note that sodium bicarbonate
should not be used as a cancer preventive.)
It is important to treat each type of cancer with the right
dosage. For phleboclysis (drip infusion), 500 cc given in a
series of intervals-5% strength on one day and 8.4% the
next-is required, depending on the patient's weight and
condition; the stronger dose may perhaps be needed in cases
of lung and brain cancers according to the tumour type
(primary or metastatic) and size. For external
administrations, it is enough to taste if the solution is
salty. Sometimes it is judicious to combine different
administrations.
For each treatment, take into consideration that tumour
colonies regress between the third and fourth day and
collapse between the fourth and fifth, so a six-day
administration is sufficient. A complete, effective cycle is
made up of six treatment days on and six days off, repeated
four times. The most important side effects of this care
system are thirst and weakness.
For skin cancers (melanoma, epithelioma, etc.), a 7% iodine
tincture should be spread on the affected area once a day,
20-30 times consecutively in one sitting, with the aim of
producing a number of layers of crust. If, after one month
of treatment, the first crust is gone and the skin is not
completely healed, then the treatment should be continued in
the same manner until the second crust forms, heals and then
comes loose without any assistance. (The procedure is also
applicable for treating psoriasis.) After this treatment,
the cancer will be gone and stay away forever.
For more information, see "Protocol Treatments with sodium
biocarbonate solutions" at
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/cancer-therapy-simoncini-protocol.html
and FAQ sections at http://www.curenaturalicancro.com.





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Re: CS>Abscess

[leslie1053]

Yes, have dealth with absessed teeth and I carried ground cloves with me 
everywhere. Pack it around the tooth and it kills the pain usually within 30 
min or less. 

Use a mouthwash like Cepacol with alcohol in it. Also, Hydrogen Peroxide 
diluted with a little water and gargle.

I drank the CS internally and would spray a little in my mouth occasionally.

Hope this helps.
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: seth sato 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:58 AM
  Subject: CS>Abscess


  I have  friend who just found out he has a pretty bad abscess in a tooth that 
had a root canal done on it 25 years ago. He does not  want to go the standard 
route to take care of it  the way  they recommend for many reasons .I was 
thinking  a  50-50 solution of C’s  and dmso 3x daily might do the trick.  Has 
anyone dealt with this situation successfully, if you have I would really 
appreciate your input.



  Thanks



  Seth






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Re: CS>Cold and flu season

[leslie1053]

Neat reply, but I really was worried about you breathing anything dangerous. LOL
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Cold and flu season


  Thanks Leslie but I do not think that my remote will get cancer.


- Original Message - 
From: leslie1053 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Cold and flu season


Faith, may I suggest that you change that alcohol for something else. I use 
Peroxide and water only, but Dr. Clark says that the alcohol is cancer causing. 
I haven't been to her site in awhile but you ought to be able to find there. I 
had the book but loaned it out and never came back. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:18 AM
  Subject: CS>Cold and flu season


  I have discovered that I can get rid of a bad cold only to be re-infected 
again in a short time.  This may be because of closed up houses in cold weather 
where air-borne and surface germs can collect and reside in comfort.  So here 
is a tip that some of you may know about but I thought I'd share it anyway:

  All through the cold and flu season  I spray almost everything in my 
house with a germ-killing mixture that I make myself.  It is cheap and 
effective.  I can't remember where I got the recipe but it works wonders.  I 
start in the kitchen and go right through the house spraying and wiping all 
surfaces that are touched all the time:  sinks, fridge, stove, PHONES, REMOTE 
CONTROLS, door knobs, tables,  light switches,  bathrooms, bedrooms, etc., 
you-name-it.  It only takes me a few minutes and the house is much fresher and 
more germ free.  I may repeat the  exercise for a couple of days.   I do this 
all winter.

  I never had CS to do this with,  but here is what I have used for a long 
time and continue to use:  In a spray bottle put 1/3 isopropyl alcohol, 1/3 
hydrogen peroxide (food grade of course) and 1/3 water.  Mix it up and spray 
away.

  Works for me.

  Faith G.

Re: CS>Cold and flu season

[leslie1053]

Faith, may I suggest that you change that alcohol for something else. I use 
Peroxide and water only, but Dr. Clark says that the alcohol is cancer causing. 
I haven't been to her site in awhile but you ought to be able to find there. I 
had the book but loaned it out and never came back. 

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:18 AM
  Subject: CS>Cold and flu season


  I have discovered that I can get rid of a bad cold only to be re-infected 
again in a short time.  This may be because of closed up houses in cold weather 
where air-borne and surface germs can collect and reside in comfort.  So here 
is a tip that some of you may know about but I thought I'd share it anyway:

  All through the cold and flu season  I spray almost everything in my house 
with a germ-killing mixture that I make myself.  It is cheap and effective.  I 
can't remember where I got the recipe but it works wonders.  I start in the 
kitchen and go right through the house spraying and wiping all surfaces that 
are touched all the time:  sinks, fridge, stove, PHONES, REMOTE CONTROLS, door 
knobs, tables,  light switches,  bathrooms, bedrooms, etc., you-name-it.  It 
only takes me a few minutes and the house is much fresher and more germ free.  
I may repeat the  exercise for a couple of days.   I do this all winter.

  I never had CS to do this with,  but here is what I have used for a long time 
and continue to use:  In a spray bottle put 1/3 isopropyl alcohol, 1/3 hydrogen 
peroxide (food grade of course) and 1/3 water.  Mix it up and spray away.

  Works for me.

  Faith G.

Re: CS>CS Nebulizer Bronchitis Archives

[leslie1053]

I have a neubilizer also but never use it anymore, so I would be interested 
in receiving that file also since you have already gone to the trouble to 
gather them up.


Not sure where to receive a large file, but have a yahoo account as well as 
of today a Gmail account.


If this one doesn't receive, I'll send you another address.
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Fugitt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS Nebulizer Bronchitis Archives




Morning Ian,

>> At 01:01 AM 11/30/2007, you wrote:


Would it be possible for me to see the filed messages you have about CS 
and a nebulizer?


  Simple answer, .. Yes.

  I am indeed sorry I have not replied.

  I have been busy, some work, and some software and computer problems 
with a great software I have used for 20 years.

Never threw me a curve like this in the 20 years.

I had not forgotten your request.  It just has not got to the
top of the stack.  

Will see if I can do it tomorrow or Sunday at the latest.

Can you handle an MBX file, or I can make it one ASCII file.

Would hope to clean it up a bit, not changing any data, dates, or who the 
message is from.


This is exactly why I keep these files, if for a situation like this.
I would like to read them all again myself.

Stand by...Wayne

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Re: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor ....

[leslie1053]

Yes, I would be interested in learning if anything you might injest would get 
rid of tumors?? Wonder if that might be cancer treatments. I would start at 
least putting CS in the water for your boxer and rub the DMSO on the outside. 
They say you can take that internally but I don't know how.

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: juga...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:20 PM
  Subject: CS>Boxer with Fatty Tumor 



  Could someone enlighten me as to how this would apply to dogs?  Our boxer has 
a fatty tumor that had decreased in size but now is growing again  ... it is 
the size of a silver dollar and is about 1/2 inch high  ... would appreciate 
your insight.

  Thanks, 

  Judy





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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[leslie1053]

actually I just took my fingers and applied. The first time I took something to 
tie around my arm, but came off during the night so haven't bothered since.It 
might work better if you could compress (?) it.

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: leslie1053 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Treating Lipomas


  I am using DMSO with CS; forgot to mention the CS earlier. Before this I 
swabbed straight iodine on it. It looks like it has moved down a little going 
more underneath my arm. 

  I'll let ya'll know.
  Thanks,
  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Hanneke 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Treating Lipomas


Hi Leslie,

How long have you been using the DMSO on the fatty tumor? 

My experience about  2 years ago with putting DMSO on lipomas  looked 
initially promising but in the end the size didn't reduce. My skin got rather 
irritated, red, itchy, and scaly  which are rather normal side effects of 
putting undiluted DMSO on skin. They are minor effects though.


Only yesterday, Rowena - also a member on this list - send me the following 
(thanks Rowena): 
  15. Sebaceous cysts are cysts which contain oily, fatty material. They 
  usually appear rather suddenly on the face or in the groin or labia. 
Rubbing 
  in SSKI mixed 50-50 with DMSO will almost always persuade these cysts to 
go 
  away in a week or two; it appears that the iodide "dissolves" the fatty, 
  oily material contained in the cysts, allowing your body to slowly 
re-absorb 
  and dispose of it. The famous chemistry professor Louis Feiser made a 
point 
  of demonstrating to all the medical students that iodine and iodide would 
  make oils, fats, and waxes (cholesterol is actually a wax) more soluble 
in 
  water. This known action of iodide might likely explain why it might be 
  needed in patients with lipomas.  http://panaminstitute.com/de-iodine.htm


I had applied iodine (Lugol's) for a period of time with no results, and 
the DMSO alone with no results.
Now I have made a 50-50  Lugols/DMSO solution, only a tiny bit as it goes a 
long way, and am going to give that a go for 2 weeks, 3 weeks if I have the 
impression that changes are occurring. It is worth trying.  
The only solution for getting rid of them is removal by surgery.  For some 
that is doable if one has only a few. 

Keep us informed Leslie how you go with it.

Hanneke



At 09:21 AM 4/12/2007, you wrote:

  I didn't know what a lipoma was so missing this discussion but I have a 
fatty tumor that I have been putting DMSO on but cannot tell any difference yet.
  I will be very interested to know if something might work better.

  Thanks,
  Leslie

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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[leslie1053]

I am using DMSO with CS; forgot to mention the CS earlier. Before this I 
swabbed straight iodine on it. It looks like it has moved down a little going 
more underneath my arm. 

I'll let ya'll know.
Thanks,
Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Hanneke 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:11 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Treating Lipomas


  Hi Leslie,

  How long have you been using the DMSO on the fatty tumor? 

  My experience about  2 years ago with putting DMSO on lipomas  looked 
initially promising but in the end the size didn't reduce. My skin got rather 
irritated, red, itchy, and scaly  which are rather normal side effects of 
putting undiluted DMSO on skin. They are minor effects though.


  Only yesterday, Rowena - also a member on this list - send me the following 
(thanks Rowena): 
15. Sebaceous cysts are cysts which contain oily, fatty material. They 
usually appear rather suddenly on the face or in the groin or labia. 
Rubbing 
in SSKI mixed 50-50 with DMSO will almost always persuade these cysts to go 
away in a week or two; it appears that the iodide "dissolves" the fatty, 
oily material contained in the cysts, allowing your body to slowly 
re-absorb 
and dispose of it. The famous chemistry professor Louis Feiser made a point 
of demonstrating to all the medical students that iodine and iodide would 
make oils, fats, and waxes (cholesterol is actually a wax) more soluble in 
water. This known action of iodide might likely explain why it might be 
needed in patients with lipomas.  http://panaminstitute.com/de-iodine.htm


  I had applied iodine (Lugol's) for a period of time with no results, and the 
DMSO alone with no results.
  Now I have made a 50-50  Lugols/DMSO solution, only a tiny bit as it goes a 
long way, and am going to give that a go for 2 weeks, 3 weeks if I have the 
impression that changes are occurring. It is worth trying.  
  The only solution for getting rid of them is removal by surgery.  For some 
that is doable if one has only a few. 

  Keep us informed Leslie how you go with it.

  Hanneke



  At 09:21 AM 4/12/2007, you wrote:

I didn't know what a lipoma was so missing this discussion but I have a 
fatty tumor that I have been putting DMSO on but cannot tell any difference yet.
I will be very interested to know if something might work better.

Thanks,
Leslie

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Re: CS>Nature's biotics

[leslie1053]

Since we are talking nature products, has anyone figured out the best Vit C 
to take. Someone recently mentioned buffered C but haven't seen it 
advertised. I used to order the asorbic acid from beyond a century but they 
say it is artificial and not the best to take.


Appreciate any opinions on this as I need to get some.

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Clayton Family" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nature's biotics


Thanks. I looked, but they don't carry it.  Oh well. I guess I will stick 
with Primal Defense for now.


On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:28 PM, faith gagne wrote:


Try Vita Cost online.  Google it.

Faith G.


- Original Message - From: "Clayton Family" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: CS>Nature's biotics


I was just about to buy some, when it hit me that I was about to pay 
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Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

[leslie1053]

I didn't know what a lipoma was so missing this discussion but I have a 
fatty tumor that I have been putting DMSO on but cannot tell any difference 
yet.


I will be very interested to know if something might work better.

Thanks,
Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Treating Lipomas


Lipoma.  Benign fatty tumors (lumps) under the skin.

Dan


-Original Message-
From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Treating Lipomas

Are you talking about Lymphoma? My husband had Hodgkin's
Lymphoma so I spent a bit of time studying it. What I learned
was that there are 2 types of cancer. One is caused by fungus
and the other type is virus. Lymphoma is said to be virus.
Hard tumor types are fungus. Maybe the baking soda would work
for the virus also. Sure would be nice.
Paula
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Nave" 
To: "CS" 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 6:06 PM
Subject: CS>Treating Lipomas


> Several people wrote that they would like any info about
> treating lipomas.
>
> This protocol feels that "cancer is a fungus" and treats
> cancers and tumors with sodium bicarbonate.  Apparently one
> could inject the lipomas with a solution of sodium bicarbonate.
>
> I have not tried this yet.
>
> Dan
>
>
>  From the FAQ:
>
> Q)  Could you please explain how to treat lipomas?
>
> A)  In my opinion lipomas are like cystis caused by fungi.
> If they are big they are to be treated with direct
> injections into the lumps, otherwise around them.
>
>
>
>
>
http://houseofstrauss.co.uk/modules/wfsection/article.php?arti
cleid=570
>
> Addendum: A Note on Cancer Treatment
> The implications from my hypothesis that cancer is a fungus
> which can be eradicated with sodium bicarbonate are that:
> 1) eighty years of genetic study and application has been
> for nothing, especially considering that the genetic theory
> of cancer has never been demonstrated;
> 2) the loss of millions, if not billions, of lives with all
> the suffering has been for nothing;
> 3) the billions of dollars spent on chemotherapy medicine,
> radiotherapy, etc. has been for nothing;
> 4) the recognition and prizes given to eminent researchers
> and professors has been for nothing;
> 5) the oncologist could be replaced by the family doctor; and
> 6) the pharmaceutical industry will incur tremendous
> financial losses (sodium bicarbonate is inexpensive and
> impossible to patent).
> My methods have cured people for 20 years. Many of my
> patients recovered completely from cancer, even in cases
> where official oncology had given up.
> The best way to try to eliminate a tumour is to bring it
> into contact with sodium bicarbonate, as closely as
> possible, i.e., using oral administration for the digestive
> tract, an enema for the rectum, douching for the vagina and
> uterus, intravenous injection for the lung and the brain,
> and inhalation for the upper airways. Breasts, lymph nodes
> and subcutaneous lumps can be treated with local perfusions.
> The internal organs can be treated with sodium bicarbonate
> by locating suitable catheters in the arteries (of the
> liver, pancreas, prostate and limbs) or in the cavities (of
> the pleura or peritoneum). (Note that sodium bicarbonate
> should not be used as a cancer preventive.)
> It is important to treat each type of cancer with the right
> dosage. For phleboclysis (drip infusion), 500 cc given in a
> series of intervals-5% strength on one day and 8.4% the
> next-is required, depending on the patient's weight and
> condition; the stronger dose may perhaps be needed in cases
> of lung and brain cancers according to the tumour type
> (primary or metastatic) and size. For external
> administrations, it is enough to taste if the solution is
> salty. Sometimes it is judicious to combine different
> administrations.
> For each treatment, take into consideration that tumour
> colonies regress between the third and fourth day and
> collapse between the fourth and fifth, so a six-day
> administration is sufficient. A complete, effective cycle is
> made up of six treatment days on and six days off, repeated
> four times. The most important side effects of this care
> system are thirst and weakness.
> For skin cancers (melanoma, epithelioma, etc.), a 7% iodine
> tincture should be spread on the affected area once a day,
> 20-30 times consecutively in one sitting, with the aim of
> producing a number of layers of crust. If, after one month
> of treatment, the first crust is gone and the skin is not
> completely healed, then the treatment should be continued in
> the same manner until the second crust forms, heals and then
> comes loose without any assistance. (The procedure is also
> applicable for treating psoriasis.) After this treatment,
> the cancer will be gone and stay away forever.
> For more information, see "Protocol Treatments with sodium
> bioc