Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
Lena, Thank you again for such advice Mary On Sun, 12/14/14, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking cs go deeper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2014, 5:44 PM When I want CS to go deeper, I use Marc Fett's (lymestrategies) adjunct:Open an MSM capsule, drip in CS, close capsule, (I pierce the side with a pin to get the gelatine cap to dissolve faster) and then place under tongue for 15-30 min. Keep tongue plastered to roof of mouth (tastebuds don't notice it as much) and then when it's dissolved, swallow fast and chase with juice or water. This delivers CS to the whole body without the gut affecting it and is almost as effective as IV CS. I've written about this here before.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:57 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Lena, Thank you for reminding me of this mix, I will use it but what about internally was it DMSO or H202 ?- Mary--- On Sun, 12/14/14, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking cs go deeper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2014, 9:39 AM DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv2132523477 #yiv2132523477 -- .yiv2132523477hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2132523477 body.yiv2132523477hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv2132523477 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
Seriously consider your ergonomics. Analyze not only how you position your neck in the daytime, but how it is supported at night. Even the wrong focal length in glasses can cause problems, especially on computers. Proper support and gravity can do wonders for neck issues. I've improvised all sorts of head/face cradles to keep my neck in line with my spine and to keep my head from thrusting too far forward in sleep. It made a tremendous difference. Gravity and rest did the rest. You must experiment and become a careful observer of your particular situation. Be well, Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:14 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Thanks Lena...I have awful pain with my lower neck and upper back. I get a lot of relief with valerian root but sure would like to go after to abolish it. Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:50 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Antiseptic for topical injuries, rashes, muscle aches, bruises. I also use it as a base for adding other things, like arnica, lavender, other E.O.s, that I need for some particular reason. I experiment with it a lot. L On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Lena could you comment please on what this mix would be good for? Thanks much Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin. Be well, Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
You may want to try a new chiropractic treatment for neck issues called *Network Spinal Analysis * It's an amazing GENTLE (and I mean g e n t l e - with just a fingertip feather light touching) treatments--- For its directory go to: http://www.chiropractorspinalanalysisnetwork.com RaVen
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv4220592587 #yiv4220592587 -- .yiv4220592587hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv4220592587 body.yiv4220592587hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv4220592587 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv4220592587 #yiv4220592587 -- .yiv4220592587hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv4220592587 body.yiv4220592587hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv4220592587 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv2132523477 #yiv2132523477 -- .yiv2132523477hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2132523477 body.yiv2132523477hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv2132523477 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin. Be well, Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv2132523477 #yiv2132523477 -- .yiv2132523477hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2132523477 body.yiv2132523477hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv2132523477 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
Lena, Thank you for reminding me of this mix, I will use it but what about internally was it DMSO or H202 ?- Mary--- On Sun, 12/14/14, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking cs go deeper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2014, 9:39 AM DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv2132523477 #yiv2132523477 -- .yiv2132523477hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2132523477 body.yiv2132523477hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv2132523477 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
Lena could you comment please on what this mix would be good for? Thanks much Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
When I want CS to go deeper, I use Marc Fett's (lymestrategies) adjunct: Open an MSM capsule, drip in CS, close capsule, (I pierce the side with a pin to get the gelatine cap to dissolve faster) and then place under tongue for 15-30 min. Keep tongue plastered to roof of mouth (tastebuds don't notice it as much) and then when it's dissolved, swallow fast and chase with juice or water. This delivers CS to the whole body without the gut affecting it and is almost as effective as IV CS. I've written about this here before. Be well, Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 6:57 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Lena, Thank you for reminding me of this mix, I will use it but what about internally was it DMSO or H202 ?- Mary--- On Sun, 12/14/14, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking cs go deeper To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 14, 2014, 9:39 AM DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 7:07 PM Thanks Neville, I did check water before running process. It tested 1 ppm right out of jug. Thinking about putting a variable resistor in series with one of the anodes so as to beable to vary voltage to the load. Seems as though there was quite a bit of oxidationwith the 24 volts. I believe I read somewhere that constant current Is better than constant current. Still looking into that, any thoughts? I just re sampled the silver, got a 10 ppm reading, this after 2 days after combining the3 small batches I made. Is also light Amber color. I'm still looking for advice from all youfolks, particularly treating sinusitis.Reece Sent from my iPad On Dec 13, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: #yiv2132523477 #yiv2132523477 -- .yiv2132523477hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv2132523477 body.yiv2132523477hmmessage { font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;} #yiv2132523477 Don't forget to measure the water prior to production as you will need to deduct that reading from your end result to get a better - ball park - figure. I run mine up to around 17-20 odd in a given time frame and by the time the solution stabilises after a couple of days it usually drops around 4-5ppm as some ions are lost to ion clusters {particles}, then if I deduct the initial reading prior to production it will drop a further 1-3ppm dependant on purity of particular batch of DW I used. The ion/particle ratio will obviously change during stabilisation period but the amount of silver content won't change, unless of course gravity pulls some out of suspension, which should not happen anyway if everything is going according to plan. N. Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:30:11 -0500 From: jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking a generator On 12/12/2014 05:01 PM, Reece Maxey wrote: OK, been reading these educational postings for a while now, and just finished my first batch of silver; about 3 quarts. I will have more production as better containers become available. Setup is: 1. 1quart glass pickle jar for process. 2. 24 volt DC adapter, cost $ 5.00 at Tulsa flea market 3. 2 alligator clips, $ .85 from eBay 4. 1 gallon jug for storage, $6.95 at flea market 5. 1 spring loaded Speaker clip from eBay 6. 2 six inch pieces . silver wire, $ 12.80 7. 1 Lubber TDS meter, $ 9.95 The meter tells me the resultant water is 7 ppm, it is clear. Made the silver in three batches of various quantity, time 1.45 to 2.0 hours. Costs for shipping not included. Hope this doesn't bore all you experts. Thanks for all the excellent posts. I also picked up a 24 volt AC adapter. Anyone ever tried this? I started out almost exactly like this, except that I used a 9 volt supply. I think 24 volt sources waste too much silver as oxide and silver particles attached to the silver electrodes. -- Regards, John Popelish The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list
Re: CSmaking cs go deeper
Antiseptic for topical injuries, rashes, muscle aches, bruises. I also use it as a base for adding other things, like arnica, lavender, other E.O.s, that I need for some particular reason. I experiment with it a lot. L On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Lena could you comment please on what this mix would be good for? Thanks much Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin. Be well, Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Lena...I have awful pain with my lower neck and upper back. I get a lot of relief with valerian root but sure would like to go after to abolish it.Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 8:50 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: Antiseptic for topical injuries, rashes, muscle aches, bruises. I also use it as a base for adding other things, like arnica, lavender, other E.O.s, that I need for some particular reason. I experiment with it a lot. L On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Lena could you comment please on what this mix would be good for? Thanks much Debbie On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:39 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: DMSO will make CS go deeper. I make a roll-on with 75%CS, 15%glycerine or aloe, and added last, 10%DMSO.(Brooks Bradley invented thei 'Brooks' Mix: good for so many topical things, as well as stuff beneath the skin.Be well,Léna On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:03 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: To anyone Sometime ago someone wrote how to make cs go deeper. I think it was 1 drop of H202 to 4 oz of cs. Is this ratio right? Thank you Mary On Sat, 12/13/14, Reece Maxey ozarko...@att.net wrote: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS at home
This is detailed at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall On 10/19/2010 7:31 PM, jaxi wrote: Yes I use the quart size. As for the H2O2 I started adding that after reading numerous posts on this list about it. However, I am the wrong one to explain how it works. I believe it helps reduce the size of any large particles, also if you have a slight yellow it helps it go clear. Science geeks please explain it. You can search the archives too. Ode says 6 drops are plenty. Some do more. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Jaxi, I too have a Silverpuppy and have been very happy with it. Do you use a quart mason jar and how many drops of H2O2 do you put in it and what’s the reason? Lisa *From:* jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home Preference and price I think, people speak highly of both. If you go to the main list website I believe there are links to both Silvergen and Silverpuppy web sites or goggle them. I researched both (and several others out there) and settled on the silverpuppy (the white domed one that sits on top of a jar) with the magnetic stirrer. I couldn't be happier. Total plug and play. Set it up (auto and switch) and walk away. When the light goes off it is done. I move it to a different jar, date it and put it in my hall closet upstairs. Once at least 3 days have passed I add the H2O2 and good to go for me, my partner and the many critters running around my house (6 of them). And every so often I make a uber strong topical batch for spraying on stuff. I know Ode at silverpuppy offers a money back guarentee. Free shipping too as I recall. And he is active here on the list so if you have questions as you get started he can answer. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com wrote: **Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy?** **Gene/Joann** - Original Message - *From:* jaxi mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thank you Marshall. I have this mind that retains big picture stuff butdoes not always remember the fine details after I have perused them and decided what I read/heard/studied made sense. So all I am left with is the larger concepts. Makes it hard to adequately explain things to folks when the finer details are needed. Now in my field of work I can rattle off enough information to make anyone's head swim. But that isn't really of interest here, which is just as well, I get enough of it AT work. LOL Jaxi On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote: This is detailed at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall On 10/19/2010 7:31 PM, jaxi wrote: Yes I use the quart size. As for the H2O2 I started adding that after reading numerous posts on this list about it. However, I am the wrong one to explain how it works. I believe it helps reduce the size of any large particles, also if you have a slight yellow it helps it go clear. Science geeks please explain it. You can search the archives too. Ode says 6 drops are plenty. Some do more. Jaxi
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Thanks Marshall, you geek... ;-)) Jaxi wrote: Science geeks please explain it. Dan On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: This is detailed at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall On 10/19/2010 7:31 PM, jaxi wrote: Yes I use the quart size. As for the H2O2 I started adding that after reading numerous posts on this list about it. However, I am the wrong one to explain how it works. I believe it helps reduce the size of any large particles, also if you have a slight yellow it helps it go clear. Science geeks please explain it. You can search the archives too. Ode says 6 drops are plenty. Some do more. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Jaxi, I too have a Silverpuppy and have been very happy with it. Do you use a quart mason jar and how many drops of H2O2 do you put in it and what’s the reason? Lisa *From:* jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home Preference and price I think, people speak highly of both. If you go to the main list website I believe there are links to both Silvergen and Silverpuppy web sites or goggle them. I researched both (and several others out there) and settled on the silverpuppy (the white domed one that sits on top of a jar) with the magnetic stirrer. I couldn't be happier. Total plug and play. Set it up (auto and switch) and walk away. When the light goes off it is done. I move it to a different jar, date it and put it in my hall closet upstairs. Once at least 3 days have passed I add the H2O2 and good to go for me, my partner and the many critters running around my house (6 of them). And every so often I make a uber strong topical batch for spraying on stuff. I know Ode at silverpuppy offers a money back guarentee. Free shipping too as I recall. And he is active here on the list so if you have questions as you get started he can answer. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com wrote: **Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy?** **Gene/Joann** - Original Message - *From:* jaxi mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS at home
Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy? Gene/Joann - Original Message - From: jaxi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com
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Thanks very much. This is very helpful information for us. We will continue trying with this as we have spent a long time with purchasing our equipment, etc. May purchase silver puppy in the meantime. Thank you again for your explanation. Gene and Joann - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home While I am not familiar with Warren Jefferson or his book, I might suggest that you put the light source behind or to the side and slightly behind the jar of colloidal silver in order to view any yellow wisp or cloud coming off the electrodes. This light should also not shine directly into your eyes. Just experiment with it a bit. You will not see any clouds or wisps coming off the electrodes at the beginning of the process (using distilled water and no additives) until the amount of silver in the water increases to an amount which allows the water to be more conductive and allows a large enough current for you to see the reaction happening. As this happens, you may also see some blackening of one silver electrode and some grey fuzz appearing on the other electrode. If you are using just a single 9 volt battery, try to join 3 or 4 of them together in series to make 27 or 36 volts. This will make the reaction happen faster. Series is similar to saying 'in single file.' Connect the - of the first battery to one silver electrode. Connect the + of the first battery to the - of the second. Connect the + of the second battery to the - of the third battery. Connect the + of the third battery to the other silver electrode. This example will give you 27 volts. The farther apart your electrodes are, the slower the process will be. There are some issues with having them too close together, so you may want to have them about 1 and 1/2 inch apart (1.5 inch apart). Also, initially, make sure you are not using too much water. For getting familiar with the process, I would start with between 1 and 2 cups of water maximum. That may be of some help. Dan On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS at home
We may go the easy way now that we know about it. Which is better, in your opinion, Silver Puppy or Silver Gen? What is the difference in them? Thank you again for taking the time to write to us. Gene/Joann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home It is not difficult. Get a Silvergen or Silver Pupply, put distilled water in it, and plug it in. It is ready when the LED goes on (or off, depending on the model). If you want to go to the trouble of making it yourself, then start with 20 to 30 volts, and limit current to 1 mA per square inch of anode. Improved product is made by stirring, and reversing polarity every minute. When the voltage reaches some target value, it is ready. The lower the voltage the higher the ppm. Marshall On 10/17/2010 9:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS at home
Preference and price I think, people speak highly of both. If you go to the main list website I believe there are links to both Silvergen and Silverpuppy web sites or goggle them. I researched both (and several others out there) and settled on the silverpuppy (the white domed one that sits on top of a jar) with the magnetic stirrer. I couldn't be happier. Total plug and play. Set it up (auto and switch) and walk away. When the light goes off it is done. I move it to a different jar, date it and put it in my hall closet upstairs. Once at least 3 days have passed I add the H2O2 and good to go for me, my partner and the many critters running around my house (6 of them). And every so often I make a uber strong topical batch for spraying on stuff. I know Ode at silverpuppy offers a money back guarentee. Free shipping too as I recall. And he is active here on the list so if you have questions as you get started he can answer. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.comwrote: *Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy?* *Gene/Joann* - Original Message - *From:* jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.comwrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com
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I think the Puppy is the simplest (I have one!) and it just is literally, plug and play--even I can't go wrong. It does everything automatically with no fuss. I think the Gen can do bigger amounts though and is a bit more expensive. dee On 19 Oct 2010, at 16:34, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: We may go the easy way now that we know about it. Which is better, in your opinion, Silver Puppy or Silver Gen? What is the difference in them? Thank you again for taking the time to write to us. Gene/Joann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I haven't used a silvergen but after reading about the silverpuppy and reading about everyone's good experiences I purchased one of them and haven't been disappointed! PT - Original Message - From: Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home We may go the easy way now that we know about it. Which is better, in your opinion, Silver Puppy or Silver Gen? What is the difference in them? Thank you again for taking the time to write to us. Gene/Joann - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:02 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home It is not difficult. Get a Silvergen or Silver Pupply, put distilled water in it, and plug it in. It is ready when the LED goes on (or off, depending on the model). If you want to go to the trouble of making it yourself, then start with 20 to 30 volts, and limit current to 1 mA per square inch of anode. Improved product is made by stirring, and reversing polarity every minute. When the voltage reaches some target value, it is ready. The lower the voltage the higher the ppm. Marshall On 10/17/2010 9:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Jaxi, I too have a Silverpuppy and have been very happy with it. Do you use a quart mason jar and how many drops of H2O2 do you put in it and what's the reason? Lisa _ From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home Preference and price I think, people speak highly of both. If you go to the main list website I believe there are links to both Silvergen and Silverpuppy web sites or goggle them. I researched both (and several others out there) and settled on the silverpuppy (the white domed one that sits on top of a jar) with the magnetic stirrer. I couldn't be happier. Total plug and play. Set it up (auto and switch) and walk away. When the light goes off it is done. I move it to a different jar, date it and put it in my hall closet upstairs. Once at least 3 days have passed I add the H2O2 and good to go for me, my partner and the many critters running around my house (6 of them). And every so often I make a uber strong topical batch for spraying on stuff. I know Ode at silverpuppy offers a money back guarentee. Free shipping too as I recall. And he is active here on the list so if you have questions as you get started he can answer. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy? Gene/Joann - Original Message - From: jaxi mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com
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Yes I use the quart size. As for the H2O2 I started adding that after reading numerous posts on this list about it. However, I am the wrong one to explain how it works. I believe it helps reduce the size of any large particles, also if you have a slight yellow it helps it go clear. Science geeks please explain it. You can search the archives too. Ode says 6 drops are plenty. Some do more. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote: Jaxi, I too have a Silverpuppy and have been very happy with it. Do you use a quart mason jar and how many drops of H2O2 do you put in it and what’s the reason? Lisa -- *From:* jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home Preference and price I think, people speak highly of both. If you go to the main list website I believe there are links to both Silvergen and Silverpuppy web sites or goggle them. I researched both (and several others out there) and settled on the silverpuppy (the white domed one that sits on top of a jar) with the magnetic stirrer. I couldn't be happier. Total plug and play. Set it up (auto and switch) and walk away. When the light goes off it is done. I move it to a different jar, date it and put it in my hall closet upstairs. Once at least 3 days have passed I add the H2O2 and good to go for me, my partner and the many critters running around my house (6 of them). And every so often I make a uber strong topical batch for spraying on stuff. I know Ode at silverpuppy offers a money back guarentee. Free shipping too as I recall. And he is active here on the list so if you have questions as you get started he can answer. Jaxi On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: *Thanks so much, Jaxi. I think this is the way we will go. What is the difference between Silver Gen and Silver Puppy?* *Gene/Joann* - Original Message - *From:* jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSMaking CS at home The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com
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It is not difficult. Get a Silvergen or Silver Pupply, put distilled water in it, and plug it in. It is ready when the LED goes on (or off, depending on the model). If you want to go to the trouble of making it yourself, then start with 20 to 30 volts, and limit current to 1 mA per square inch of anode. Improved product is made by stirring, and reversing polarity every minute. When the voltage reaches some target value, it is ready. The lower the voltage the higher the ppm. Marshall On 10/17/2010 9:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com mailto:g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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BlankDan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com Blank Bkgrd.gif
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The simplest way to do it is to buy a device from silverpuppy or silvergen that are plug and play devices. I set mine up, walk away, come back later and it's is made and done. Auto switching, stirring device and auto off when done. Worth the extra money. I LOVE my silverpuppy. Jaxi On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.comwrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com
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While I am not familiar with Warren Jefferson or his book, I might suggest that you put the light source behind or to the side and slightly behind the jar of colloidal silver in order to view any yellow wisp or cloud coming off the electrodes. This light should also not shine directly into your eyes. Just experiment with it a bit. You will not see any clouds or wisps coming off the electrodes at the beginning of the process (using distilled water and no additives) until the amount of silver in the water increases to an amount which allows the water to be more conductive and allows a large enough current for you to see the reaction happening. As this happens, you may also see some blackening of one silver electrode and some grey fuzz appearing on the other electrode. If you are using just a single 9 volt battery, try to join 3 or 4 of them together in series to make 27 or 36 volts. This will make the reaction happen faster. Series is similar to saying 'in single file.' Connect the - of the first battery to one silver electrode. Connect the + of the first battery to the - of the second. Connect the + of the second battery to the - of the third battery. Connect the + of the third battery to the other silver electrode. This example will give you 27 volts. The farther apart your electrodes are, the slower the process will be. There are some issues with having them too close together, so you may want to have them about 1 and 1/2 inch apart (1.5 inch apart). Also, initially, make sure you are not using too much water. For getting familiar with the process, I would start with between 1 and 2 cups of water maximum. That may be of some help. Dan On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Gene and Joann Porter g...@teknett.com wrote: Dan, Thanks so much for your response, the only one we received regarding our problem. As far as details are concerned: we attempted three times to do this procedure using the instructions written in Warren Jefferson's book Colloidal Silver Today. Are you familiar with this book? We were not able to see any yellow wisp or cloud on our water. We cleaned the rods as instructed, and it seemed to be looking as though completed, after a couple of hours (the book said 30 minutes should do it). We are not chemists and are very disappointed that this is so complicated. We want to understand the simplest way possible of doing this. Do you have a recipe or formula which you think is the best? My husband, Gene, made his home device from scratch and we are wondering if we made a mistake somehow. Could you please help us? I don't know what details you need from us. We used distilled water and two silver rods, batteries, etc. Thank you for your help. Joann, g...@teknett.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It'll take quite a while. But try this: Use a half gallon container with a spigot, drain out what you need and top off the water. That way you'll only be bringing concentration up that far, not all the way every time and the Ramp up to Current time, a HUGE variable, will be eliminated or greatly reduced. The existing generator can be fairly easily modified to handle double the electrode area to double the rate. using 14 long electrodes vs 7 inch and double the current...but that won't fit in a quart jar and silver is rather pricey. Just the other day I made up an electrode array using 3 sets of 7 electrodes and a modified PocketPuppy to run ittriple the current.. to make a gallon in about 6 hours. Three 14 electrode sets and 6x the current would be even faster. [It'll handle up to 20x the current and 140 inches of $$ electrode $$..but that won't fit into a gallon jar] The electrode connections is the trickiest part. Either it's a wire and clip mess, or it's all sealed up and you can't take it apart to replace or clean the electrodes...take your pick. [Workin on it as time permits] Ode At 11:05 AM 10/6/2009 -0400, you wrote: Ok thanks...I'll have to throw out what I have as I made 3 batches and put them all in one glass half gallon jar. With three kids we'll go through it on a regular basis...that's why I was making some to stock up. I guess I'll try my silver puppy on a half gallon container and see how long it takes to make that work! L -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking CS Lisa wrote: I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Use the one from well water for adding to your plants, or topically, I would not drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? No, never. And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? No, it produces silver salts, not collidal silver ( EIS ). Marshall Thx Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Lisa wrote: I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Use the one from well water for adding to your plants, or topically, I would not drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? No, never. And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? No, it produces silver salts, not collidal silver ( EIS ). Marshall Thx Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ok thanks...I'll have to throw out what I have as I made 3 batches and put them all in one glass half gallon jar. With three kids we'll go through it on a regular basis...that's why I was making some to stock up. I guess I'll try my silver puppy on a half gallon container and see how long it takes to make that work! L -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking CS Lisa wrote: I hate to admit it -- but I'm *totally* confused now. I made several batches of EIS and stored them in a half gallon container. Now being 3 days old it's definitely taken on a metallic type taste. I used DW in most of the batches and forgot to use it one time and wound up using our tap water which is actually well water. We do have a higher level of iron in ours so we use a Brita filter when we drink it. Use the one from well water for adding to your plants, or topically, I would not drink it. Should I be adding a pinch of salt to my water? No, never. And could I stick with my well water (after awhile DW does add up in cost -- since I'm not working)! And if I use salt...is Himalayan sea salt ok? No, it produces silver salts, not collidal silver ( EIS ). Marshall Thx Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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You can use 10 to 20% from a previous batch to seed it, and that will really cut the time down. Marshall Lisa wrote: Ok thanks...I'll have to throw out what I have as I made 3 batches and put them all in one glass half gallon jar. With three kids we'll go through it on a regular basis...that's why I was making some to stock up. I guess I'll try my silver puppy on a half gallon container and see how long it takes to make that work! L -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Brilliant thank you -- I'll use this idea going forward! -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS You can use 10 to 20% from a previous batch to seed it, and that will really cut the time down. Marshall Lisa wrote: Ok thanks...I'll have to throw out what I have as I made 3 batches and put them all in one glass half gallon jar. With three kids we'll go through it on a regular basis...that's why I was making some to stock up. I guess I'll try my silver puppy on a half gallon container and see how long it takes to make that work! L -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Don't strain it. let everything settle and decant, leaving the junk in the bottom to discard or save for topical use. The coffee filter may be neutralizing your ions and isn't a very good filter anyhow. Ode At 05:08 PM 4/27/2009 -0400, you wrote: When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Can you not set your machine to reverse polarity, because that does away with the problem altogether - you just don't get sludgy bits. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Revonda Henderson Date: 27/04/2009 22:08:24 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSmaking cs When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks faint_grain.jpg
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Thanks Steve, that is what I was referring to. Forgot to add it in my ?? Lois I am on a blackberry right now and don't access to all the previous posts. Is this relative to the CS with silver oxide and problems filtering it out? If so I would add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of 3% H2O2 to a quart. - Steve N Steve, what ratio would you use ?? how much H2O2 to how much silver??? Thanks, Lois **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621499x1201450105/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Apr ilExcScore428NO62)
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When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks
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sounds like the wrong kind of strainer, since it is catching the ions. One could decant it into another container after letting it settle overnight, leaving the bottom stuff behind. Or a paper filter could be used, maybe rinsing it first with some boiled distilled water. This works for me, with no decrease in the reading. kathryn On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Revonda Henderson wrote: When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Or one could wait a few days and add some H2O2 to the CS. The silver oxide will probably go into solution. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking cs sounds like the wrong kind of strainer, since it is catching the ions. One could decant it into another container after letting it settle overnight, leaving the bottom stuff behind. Or a paper filter could be used, maybe rinsing it first with some boiled distilled water. This works for me, with no decrease in the reading. kathryn On Apr 27, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Revonda Henderson wrote: When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have 2 1923 silver dollars, do you think they're pure enough to make some CS? --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net wrote: From: Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net Subject: CSmaking cs To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:08 PM When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks
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Steve, what ratio would you use ?? how much H2O2 to how much silver??? Thanks, Lois **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= Aprilfooter427NO62)
Re: CSmaking cs
Usually, silver of at least 99.9% purity (.999) is recommended. According to http://www.austincoins.com/peace_silver_dollars.htm , the 1923 Silver Dollar is only 90% (.900). -- indi On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 05:31:22PM -0700, nupa_n...@hotmail.com wrote: I have 2 1923 silver dollars, do you think they're pure enough to make some CS? --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net wrote: From: Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net Subject: CSmaking cs To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:08 PM When I make a batch of CS I always clean the silver electrodes before brewing. However, when the batch is complete there are usually a few silver particles or sluggy type substance floating in the water. So, I tried straining the cs through a reuseable coffee filter to get these particles I can see out. My ppm meter reads around 5 when the batch is complete but after I strained it the ppm meter reads 0. Any advice please...Thanks -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking cs
I am on a blackberry right now and don't access to all the previous posts. Is this relative to the CS with silver oxide and problems filtering it out? If so I would add 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of 3% H2O2 to a quart. - Steve N From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon Apr 27 19:41:35 2009 Subject: Re: CSmaking cs Steve, what ratio would you use ?? how much H2O2 to how much silver??? Thanks, Lois A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Aprilfooter427NO62
CSMaking CS
Here's some info for those asking how to make CS = https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=1 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I use a 4 x 6 flat silver electrode and a non-silver cathode, so I can't polarity switch. There does seem to be a lot of buildup on the cathodes either because of water quality, or the fact that I may be pushing the amperage a bit... Dan -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Dan Nave wrote: The thing is, if you have the unit that has polarity reversing, you don't have to clean the electrodes. Just pour the newly made CS into a storage container, add more Distilled Water, and start up again. What could be simpler? I personally like the stronger CS that the Silver Puppy makes. The 5 ppm of the other unit which was referred to seems like the minimum that would be acceptable. Making CS directly in the gallon distilled water container is a great idea though. I personally would like to be able to select the final ppm which is why I made my own unit, it doesn't have polarity switching which is a pain, but it does make about a gallon of 15 to 20 ppm CS in about 3 hours with the current limit set at 15 ma. geez, dude, how big are your electrodes? At one mA pre square inch, that is a lot of silver. I just hook up my electrodes in the opposite pole each batch. Seems to work for me, I don't clean them either. kathryn Dan From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
The thing is, if you have the unit that has polarity reversing, you don't have to clean the electrodes. Just pour the newly made CS into a storage container, add more Distilled Water, and start up again. What could be simpler? I personally like the stronger CS that the Silver Puppy makes. The 5 ppm of the other unit which was referred to seems like the minimum that would be acceptable. Making CS directly in the gallon distilled water container is a great idea though. I personally would like to be able to select the final ppm which is why I made my own unit, it doesn't have polarity switching which is a pain, but it does make about a gallon of 15 to 20 ppm CS in about 3 hours with the current limit set at 15 ma. Dan From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I forgot to say here, that I set mine to run on reverse polarity, which does take a lot longer. This prevents build up on the electrodes I understand. I believe it takes about four hours if left to run on direct current. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org Date: 22/06/2008 13:37:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I have been making CS all day and don’t have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen *From:* Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:33 PM *To:* Silver Post *Subject:* CSParkinson's I have a friend diagnosed with pre-parkinsons, and another with the full blown thing. Massave shakes and all.. I haven't been paying attention to posts about this problem because I didn't know anyone with it. Now I seem to remember someone posting that drinking a gallon of 5 to 10 ppm EIS daily would cure MS. Is this the same root cause??? Has anyone actually tried a gallon of CS daily? -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com Depends on the generator. Mine makes 1 1/2 gallons of 20 ppm CS an hour, or 3 gallons of 10 ppm per hour. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
This is why I have it on this setting. It doesn't bother me that it takes longer at all. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dan Nave Date: 23/06/2008 15:56:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson The thing is, if you have the unit that has polarity reversing, you don't have to clean the electrodes. Just pour the newly made CS into a storage container, add more Distilled Water, and start up again. What could be simpler?
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
On Jun 23, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Dan Nave wrote: The thing is, if you have the unit that has polarity reversing, you don't have to clean the electrodes. Just pour the newly made CS into a storage container, add more Distilled Water, and start up again. What could be simpler? I personally like the stronger CS that the Silver Puppy makes. The 5 ppm of the other unit which was referred to seems like the minimum that would be acceptable. Making CS directly in the gallon distilled water container is a great idea though. I personally would like to be able to select the final ppm which is why I made my own unit, it doesn't have polarity switching which is a pain, but it does make about a gallon of 15 to 20 ppm CS in about 3 hours with the current limit set at 15 ma. geez, dude, how big are your electrodes? At one mA pre square inch, that is a lot of silver. I just hook up my electrodes in the opposite pole each batch. Seems to work for me, I don't clean them either. kathryn Dan From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS/
What did you use before you used this unit and why did you switch? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: seth sato To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:07 AM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/ Has anyone ever used this C maker http://health2us.com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm? I have been on this group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this unit. I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used it for at least 6 years. It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on which unit you choose and it works great. I have no affiliation nor do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if anyone has tried this C maker. I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Thanks Seth
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I have the #1 kit - works fine. The funnel is glass, so delicate. JudyDownMaine -Original Message- From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson yes, it does take quite awhile. Which generator do you have? On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I have been making CS all day and don't have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 6/21/2008 9:27 AM
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Mary Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 03:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
That was my objection to the silver puppy...it takes so long. The generator I have now takes 3 hours to make one quart. I could have gotten a generator that makes a gallon but a quart is enough. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Mary Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 03:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I forgot to say here, that I set mine to run on reverse polarity, which does take a lot longer. This prevents build up on the electrodes I understand. I believe it takes about four hours if left to run on direct current. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dee Date: 22/06/2008 13:37:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
those objections are individual of course.. In all the years I have had the silver puppy, have 2 of them, it has never taken me anywhere near 8 hours. The temperature of water is a good starting point, the colder the longer it takes and perhaps a little seeding, speeds things up too. Hanneke At 10:23 PM 22/06/2008, you wrote: That was my objection to the silver puppy...it takes so long. The generator I have now takes 3 hours to make one quart. I could have gotten a generator that makes a gallon but a quart is enough. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Mary Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 03:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 21/06/2008 9:27 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CSMaking CS/
Holy Cr*p! $300 $500??? Am I glad I was technically savy enough to put together my own systems! That's quite an investment, but it WILL improve your life, so that's worth something. Chuck He's dead, Jim. You take his phaser, I'll get his wallet. On 6/22/2008 1:07:41 AM, seth sato (seths...@yahoo.com) wrote: Has anyone ever used this C maker http://health2us. com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm? I have been on this group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this unit. I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used it for at least 6 years. It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on which unit you choose and it works great. I have no affiliation nor do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if anyone has tried this C maker. I see people recommending what I think are inferi No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM
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seth, While I'm sure this unit makes high quality ionic/colloidal silver, it is no better than either the SilverGen or the Silver Puppy. ALL make equally fine and pure ionic/colloidal silver. Bob - Original Message - From: seth sato To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/ Has anyone ever used this C maker http://health2us.com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm? I have been on this group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this unit. I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used it for at least 6 years. It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on which unit you choose and it works great. I have no affiliation nor do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if anyone has tried this C maker. I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Thanks Seth
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I use the batteries on my golf cart, and turn out an amber colored CS. Ed. **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
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Thanks to this site I purchased a Silver Gen 6 in 2005 and have not been ill since ...no more colds sore throats or influenza ...and it is still solving bad habit issues accumulated over 67 years of life I was paying 22 dollars for 4 ounces of 5ppm before I purchased it ..my first surprise was the disappearance of a scar on my finger ... be well Norm - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/ seth, While I'm sure this unit makes high quality ionic/colloidal silver, it is no better than either the SilverGen or the Silver Puppy. ALL make equally fine and pure ionic/colloidal silver. Bob - Original Message - From: seth sato To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/ Has anyone ever used this C maker http://health2us.com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm? I have been on this group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this unit. I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used it for at least 6 years. It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on which unit you choose and it works great. I have no affiliation nor do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if anyone has tried this C maker. I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Thanks Seth
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I googled that unit, and it looks like it says to start with 16 ounces of water-and that would speed it up. I usually make it in quart jars, I use 3 9V batteries, and it takes 5 or 6 hours with my larger electrodes. When I use my smaller electrodes, it takes about twice the time. As for a stirrer, you may set a light bulb next to the jar, and that will do just fine- the heat from the bulb will cause the water to slowly move in convective currents, and it does not take much to do a fine job. I used to do that, then I got one of the silverpuppy bases that has a little light bulb in it, and I set my jar on that. On the other hand, if you heat the water up before you start, it will already be moving enough for some time. When I first started taking cs, I found that I had some herx reactions from whatever it was killing. That is common for some kinds of infections. Some people prefer to grit their teeth and go whole hog, and others prefer to keep the reactions to a mild roar and limit the amount they take. It can depend on how one's body reacts, and how well one tolerates that. kathryn On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Is this good? I always understood that clear was best, but pale yellow ok. I suppose it depends what you are using it for. Dee ---Original Message--- From: m1mar...@aol.com Date: 22/06/2008 14:45:49 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/ I use the batteries on my golf cart, and turn out an amber colored CS. Ed.
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It either takes a lot of time, or a lot of silver to do it right. 2 hours for 2 cups actually sounds a bit short unless you have 1 or 2 foot long electrodes. I can be done faster with very little silver, but making mud becomes more likely at such high currents. Ode At 09:00 PM 6/21/2008 -0500, you wrote: I have been making CS all day and dont have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen -- From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:33 PM To: Silver Post Subject: CSParkinson's I have a friend diagnosed with pre-parkinsons, and another with the full blown thing. Massave shakes and all.. I haven't been paying attention to posts about this problem because I didn't know anyone with it. Now I seem to remember someone posting that drinking a gallon of 5 to 10 ppm EIS daily would cure MS. Is this the same root cause??? Has anyone actually tried a gallon of CS daily? -- Day Sutton mailto:day.sut...@gmail.comday.sut...@gmail.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 6/21/2008 9:27 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
The Silver Puppy #2 Mag unit which I have, stirs itself. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 22/06/2008 15:32:02 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson As for a stirrer, you may set a light bulb next to the jar, and that Will do just fine- the heat from the bulb will cause the water to slowly move in convective currents, and it does not take much to do a fine job. I used to do that, then I got one of the silverpuppy bases that has a little light bulb in it, and I set my jar on that. On the other hand, if you heat the water up before you start, it will already be moving enough for some time.
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RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I am sorry Dee, but what does that mean.reverse polarity I am so depressed from all this I can hardly stand it. Mary Ellen _ From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I forgot to say here, that I set mine to run on reverse polarity, which does take a lot longer. This prevents build up on the electrodes I understand. I believe it takes about four hours if left to run on direct current. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org Date: 22/06/2008 13:37:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
What do you mean by a little seeding. I have spent my entire weekend making this stuff. I am not familiar with all the terms you guy are using. If I survive this weekend it will be a miracle. _ From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson those objections are individual of course.. In all the years I have had the silver puppy, have 2 of them, it has never taken me anywhere near 8 hours. The temperature of water is a good starting point, the colder the longer it takes and perhaps a little seeding, speeds things up too. Hanneke At 10:23 PM 22/06/2008, you wrote: That was my objection to the silver puppy...it takes so long. The generator I have now takes 3 hours to make one quart. I could have gotten a generator that makes a gallon but a quart is enough. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Mary mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 03:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 21/06/2008 9:27 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
Mary Ellen -- calm down. You are making a mountain out of a molehill. CS is not a fast process. You can force it to be fast, and you will create silver sludge instead of Colloidal Silver. It takes time for the small particles of silver to saturate the water, which is probably the definition of CS. *Seeding* is what someone described earlier to you, whereby you take perhaps 1/2 cup of a previous batch of CS and add it to the distilled water that you use for your next batch. Hang in there -- your CS will come (even without seeding) -- and you will survive this weekend!! And you will become knowledgeable too!! :-) MA -- Original message from "Mary Ellen Murphy" maryelle...@bellsouth.net: -- What do you mean by a little seeding. I have spent my entire weekend making this stuff. I am not familiar with all the terms you guy are using. If I survive this weekend it will be a miracle. From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:09 AMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson those objections are individual of course..In all the years I have had the silver puppy, have 2 of them, it has never taken me anywhere near 8 hours.The temperature of water is a good starting point, the colder the longer it takesand perhaps a little seeding, speeds things up too.HannekeAt 10:23 PM 22/06/2008, you wrote: That was my objection to the silver puppy...it takes so long. The generator I have now takes 3 hours to make one quart. I could have gotten a generator that makes a gallon but a quart is enough. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson Hi Mary Ellen, I am answering two of your mails at the same time, as I read this one last - The Silver Puppy comes complete with everything you need (except the canning jar) I got the #2 kit because it has the little magnet stirrer which you just pop in the jar. It is as easy as falling off a log to be honest, and this comes from someone who is mechanically challenged to say the least! It *does* take quite a time to make, (it took me 8 hours to make one quart) but this was probably because my water was *very* pure (double distlled.) if you put in the next batch about a quarter out of the first batch, however, this will knock two hours off the time. I don't find the time it takes a problem at all, because if you need more - quickly, then you just start the whole thing up again and that way, you would have quite a bit in a few days. As it doesn't matter how long it is stored, then it shouldn't matter how long it takes to make. I think it is a brilliant little unit and he is so clever to have made it all fit into such a small space compared to others, with so few working parts to have to bother about. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Mary Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 03:34:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: 21/06/2008 9:27 AM-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CSMaking CS-seeding
Seeding means to start with some cs you have made already, from a previous batch. If you put in 1/4 the jar with some from a previous batch, it will speed things up. --kathryn On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What do you mean by a little seeding. I have spent my entire weekend making this stuff. I am not familiar with all the terms you guy are using. If I survive this weekend it will be a miracle. From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 8:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson those objections are individual of course.. In all the years I have had the silver puppy, have 2 of them, it has never taken me anywhere near 8 hours. The temperature of water is a good starting point, the colder the longer it takes and perhaps a little seeding, speeds things up too. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit
Hi Wayne: Thanks for your post, I appreciate your comments. For me I use 2 of the 1 gallon units because I use alot of C's. Although the unit shuts off after 5 ppm you can depress the automatic button with tape or a rubber band and make stronger C's if you wish. I usually make about 7 or 8 ppm but have made up to15ppm with this unit. I am sure there are other good units on the market and everyone on the group makes high quality C's. However if you want to make a gallon or 5 gallons at a time, these units I can attest to their quality. In addition I have learned a great deal about C's from Fred (the inventor) although he can get a tad technical at times his information is beneficial. As a matter of course I would like to know what is the favorite unit for people on this group. Has anyone ever made a list of all the units out there and their pros and cons? I am always on the lookout for a better unit and I am sure others would like a side by side comparison. Maybe someone has done this so if you know of such a list please let me know. Thanks Seth - Original Message From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:50:12 PM Subject: CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit Morning Seth, At 12:07 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote: I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Not sure my ideas are feedback. Maybe so. Nice web page, no beat around the bush. The circuit board looks good. Was glad to see the ppm listed, no exaggeration there. I tried to look at everything with a fair and open mind. There could be times that one gallon of CS would be worth the total price. Of course your statements, coming from a long term user count a lot. And the people need all the choices to make their decision. The only little statement, I have a problem with is the reference to a ppm Meter. No ppm meter exists in the world today. Even the industry admits this, if you read all about meters and how they describe them. I do not favor the automatic generators for my use. I use a two bit generator and do not care about the ppm. My CS has proven itself many times over to me and many others. I would guess my CS is about 5, to 8 ppm. And I have to agree, many need an automatic unit. It is easier and they do not have to work, think, or sweat to make a batch of CS. Some want the easy way out. I consider your post important, and if I was considering an automatic unit, that one would be in the running. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
So sorry Many Ellen, I did not mean to confuse you. I don't know exactly what the term means either (it is in the blurb that Ode provides) I just know that the light goes from red to green and back again, and it says that this helps prevent build up which could be the little bits you are getting on the bottom. There are two little switches on the top and one says Auto and the other says SWAP which is what I have it set on. This method does take longer though. Dee PS I make a quart at a time. ---Original Message--- From: Mary Ellen Murphy Date: 22/06/2008 17:12:34 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson I am sorry Dee, but what does that mean reverse polarity I am so depressed from all this I can hardly stand it. Mary Ellen
Re: CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit
SilverPuppy costs 130.00 and has lasted me the last three years...it shuts off aotomatically on smaller amounts. I have to watch it with the gallon jar. sometimes it taker overnight.. On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:35 PM, seth sato seths...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Wayne: Thanks for your post, I appreciate your comments. For me I use 2 of the 1 gallon units because I use alot of C's. Although the unit shuts off after 5 ppm you can depress the automatic button with tape or a rubber band and make stronger C's if you wish. I usually make about 7 or 8 ppm but have made up to15ppm with this unit. I am sure there are other good units on the market and everyone on the group makes high quality C's. However if you want to make a gallon or 5 gallons at a time, these units I can attest to their quality. In addition I have learned a great deal about C's from Fred (the inventor) although he can get a tad technical at times his information is beneficial. As a matter of course I would like to know what is the favorite unit for people on this group. Has anyone ever made a list of all the units out there and their pros and cons? I am always on the lookout for a better unit and I am sure others would like a side by side comparison. Maybe someone has done this so if you know of such a list please let me know. Thanks Seth - Original Message From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:50:12 PM Subject: CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit Morning Seth, At 12:07 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote: I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Not sure my ideas are feedback. Maybe so. Nice web page, no beat around the bush. The circuit board looks good. Was glad to see the ppm listed, no exaggeration there. I tried to look at everything with a fair and open mind. There could be times that one gallon of CS would be worth the total price. Of course your statements, coming from a long term user count a lot. And the people need all the choices to make their decision. The only little statement, I have a problem with is the reference to a ppm Meter. No ppm meter exists in the world today. Even the industry admits this, if you read all about meters and how they describe them. I do not favor the automatic generators for my use. I use a two bit generator and do not care about the ppm. My CS has proven itself many times over to me and many others. I would guess my CS is about 5, to 8 ppm. And I have to agree, many need an automatic unit. It is easier and they do not have to work, think, or sweat to make a batch of CS. Some want the easy way out. I consider your post important, and if I was considering an automatic unit, that one would be in the running. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I have been making CS all day and don't have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen _ From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:33 PM To: Silver Post Subject: CSParkinson's I have a friend diagnosed with pre-parkinsons, and another with the full blown thing. Massave shakes and all.. I haven't been paying attention to posts about this problem because I didn't know anyone with it. Now I seem to remember someone posting that drinking a gallon of 5 to 10 ppm EIS daily would cure MS. Is this the same root cause??? Has anyone actually tried a gallon of CS daily? -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
yes, it does take quite awhile. Which generator do you have? On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I have been making CS all day and don’t have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson
I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar. I was also wondering how much to take to start. I am trying to figure out what I need to get with the silver puppy. I understand that you need some kind of stirrer with it. I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson yes, it does take quite awhile. Which generator do you have? On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I have been making CS all day and dont have gallon yet. Do all generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver. This is not as easy as is sounds. Mary Ellen From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS/
Has anyone ever used this C maker http://health2us.com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm? I have been on this group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this unit. I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used it for at least 6 years. It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on which unit you choose and it works great. I have no affiliation nor do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if anyone has tried this C maker. I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Thanks Seth
CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit
Morning Seth, At 12:07 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote: I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist. I look forward to any feedback anyone has to offer. Not sure my ideas are feedback. Maybe so. Nice web page, no beat around the bush. The circuit board looks good. Was glad to see the ppm listed, no exaggeration there. I tried to look at everything with a fair and open mind. There could be times that one gallon of CS would be worth the total price. Of course your statements, coming from a long term user count a lot. And the people need all the choices to make their decision. The only little statement, I have a problem with is the reference to a ppm Meter. No ppm meter exists in the world today. Even the industry admits this, if you read all about meters and how they describe them. I do not favor the automatic generators for my use. I use a two bit generator and do not care about the ppm. My CS has proven itself many times over to me and many others. I would guess my CS is about 5, to 8 ppm. And I have to agree, many need an automatic unit. It is easier and they do not have to work, think, or sweat to make a batch of CS. Some want the easy way out. I consider your post important, and if I was considering an automatic unit, that one would be in the running. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS/
Hello Seth, I believe the reason that no one else uses this device is for the following reasons (granted I only spent about five minutes checking, I'll leave the in depth dissection to others): 1) They have only had this web site for less than 1 year. 2) The claims made on the home page are outrageous. 3) And I don't recall ever seeing your name before. 4) You are wrong when you speak about others recommending inferior units, if all you have ever used is this thing. I think it is possible/very likely that you are a shill...just my opinion. Regards, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSMaking CS
_http://keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm_ (http://keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm) Those are vintage instructions from *way* back, including a grain-of- wheat bulb as a crude current limiter and recommending the use of SALT to make things happen faster. Do *NOT* use these instructions as written. The use of salt has been discouraged for years now. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMaking CS
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Re: CSMaking CS
went to site, could not find anything priced as you said,, please advise,, thanks so much, geo.
RE: CSMaking CS
Hi Geoping, Please click on www.rharrisinc.com and you should find items prices--please let me know if you have difficulty. Thanks. Sincerely. ___ Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: geop...@aol.com [mailto:geop...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking CS went to site, could not find anything priced as you said,, please advise,, thanks so much, geo.
RE: CSMaking CS
Hi this site has a link to Free D.I.Y Designs really simple to make and use http://www.silverwell.com.au/ TDS meters give a very rough but still useful measure of the strength of the cs you are producing nathan From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking CS Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:14:03 + Hi I've recently become interested in CS and am totally convinced of its benefits. However I've been buying it ready made as I have no clue how to make it. This obviously makes it quite expensive, especially with shipping. Is there any easy way of making it at home. I haven't a clue where to even start. Is there a kit or something I can buy? Any advice gratefully appreciated Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done _ Advertisement: Looking for a car that won't break the budget? Go to www.tradingpost.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eautotrader%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fbrowse%2Dauto%2FAutomotive%2F%3Freferrer%3Dplace1_t=758874129_r=emailtagline_nov_m=EXT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMaking CS
Hi I've recently become interested in CS and am totally convinced of its benefits. However I've been buying it ready made as I have no clue how to make it. This obviously makes it quite expensive, especially with shipping. Is there any easy way of making it at home. I haven't a clue where to even start. Is there a kit or something I can buy? Any advice gratefully appreciated Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done
RE: CSMaking CS
http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Kristeen this is where I just ordered mine from got it in like 4 days and made my first batch last night with no problems. Very Happy. Todd Paddock From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMaking CS Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:14:03 + Hi I've recently become interested in CS and am totally convinced of its benefits. However I've been buying it ready made as I have no clue how to make it. This obviously makes it quite expensive, especially with shipping. Is there any easy way of making it at home. I haven't a clue where to even start. Is there a kit or something I can buy? Any advice gratefully appreciated Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS
You can make your own unit, or purchase a ready made one. Many here have had success with these companies: http://www.silvergen.com/ http://silverpuppy.com Marshall Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi I've recently become interested in CS and am totally convinced of its benefits. However I've been buying it ready made as I have no clue how to make it. This obviously makes it quite expensive, especially with shipping. Is there any easy way of making it at home. I haven't a clue where to even start. Is there a kit or something I can buy? Any advice gratefully appreciated Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS
On 11/2/06, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: You can make your own unit, or purchase a ready made one. Many here have had success with these companies: http://www.silvergen.com/ http://silverpuppy.com I've had a look for units in the UK and this is the only one I can find. Any comments. Does it look as if it's any good. thanks for the help. I'm really clueless. Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done
Re: CSMaking CS
HiV...is on this site and he sells a unit for $29.95...and it works great and you can pick his brain with tons of questions. Here is his site... http://www.cheap-zappers.com/silvermaker.htm debbie - Original Message From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2006 10:14:03 AM Subject: CSMaking CS Hi I've recently become interested in CS and am totally convinced of its benefits. However I've been buying it ready made as I have no clue how to make it. This obviously makes it quite expensive, especially with shipping. Is there any easy way of making it at home. I haven't a clue where to even start. Is there a kit or something I can buy? Any advice gratefully appreciated Kirsteen -- Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done
RE: CSRe: Re: CSMaking CS
I will very much appreciate a schematic. Thank you for the work and care. Jim -Original Message- From: parj...@bellsouth.net [mailto:parj...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:30 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CSMaking CS Hi Steve Please send me a copy of your schematic, I would very much appreciate it. Many thanks Jacques From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net Date: 2006/05/25 Thu AM 12:18:21 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jbfr...@adelphia.net Subject: Re: CSMaking CS Joseph, My homemade generator uses a quart mason jar, with #12 vertically mounted silver wires spaced about 2 inches apart whose ends are about 3/4 of an inch from the bottom. I use a constant current of about 200 microamps and let it brew for 24 hours. The very low current produces very fine particles and doesn't require mechanical or thermal stirring (the Brownian motion provides sufficient stirring). I don't use polarity switching, but I do swap the wires every batch so they wear out evenly. Be sure to use only steam distilled water. If you are handy with electronics, I can send you a schematic of the constant current supply I use. The parts cost around $15. Or, you can simply buy a constant current diode from Mouser Electronics and put it in series with a 24 volt DC wall transformer available from Radio Shack or Jameco or many other sources. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Joseph Fritz jbfr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: CSMaking CS Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've made CS and have lost/misplaced most of what I was using to make CS. I plan on building a new generator. And was wondering what the current consensus on making CS is. I am going to get new wire for making CS I will be making it in a mason jar Any recommendations on what length cathode/electrode for jar size? I will be using 12 gauge silver wire. What size batch? 16, 32, 64OZ Should I use polarity switching? Should I also have an on/off cycle? What voltage/current? I would look in the archives but they disappeared Any idea if/when they will return? Also if this info is on a web page somewhere could you please point me to it? Thank you! Sincerely Joseph Fritz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Re: CSMaking CS
Hi Steve Please send me a copy of your schematic, I would very much appreciate it. Many thanks Jacques From: SJY youngst...@konnections.net Date: 2006/05/25 Thu AM 12:18:21 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com CC: jbfr...@adelphia.net Subject: Re: CSMaking CS Joseph, My homemade generator uses a quart mason jar, with #12 vertically mounted silver wires spaced about 2 inches apart whose ends are about 3/4 of an inch from the bottom. I use a constant current of about 200 microamps and let it brew for 24 hours. The very low current produces very fine particles and doesn't require mechanical or thermal stirring (the Brownian motion provides sufficient stirring). I don't use polarity switching, but I do swap the wires every batch so they wear out evenly. Be sure to use only steam distilled water. If you are handy with electronics, I can send you a schematic of the constant current supply I use. The parts cost around $15. Or, you can simply buy a constant current diode from Mouser Electronics and put it in series with a 24 volt DC wall transformer available from Radio Shack or Jameco or many other sources. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Joseph Fritz jbfr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: CSMaking CS Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've made CS and have lost/misplaced most of what I was using to make CS. I plan on building a new generator. And was wondering what the current consensus on making CS is. I am going to get new wire for making CS I will be making it in a mason jar Any recommendations on what length cathode/electrode for jar size? I will be using 12 gauge silver wire. What size batch? 16, 32, 64OZ Should I use polarity switching? Should I also have an on/off cycle? What voltage/current? I would look in the archives but they disappeared Any idea if/when they will return? Also if this info is on a web page somewhere could you please point me to it? Thank you! Sincerely Joseph Fritz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMaking CS
Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've made CS and have lost/misplaced most of what I was using to make CS. I plan on building a new generator. And was wondering what the current consensus on making CS is. I am going to get new wire for making CS I will be making it in a mason jar Any recommendations on what length cathode/electrode for jar size? I will be using 12 gauge silver wire. What size batch? 16, 32, 64OZ Should I use polarity switching? Should I also have an on/off cycle? What voltage/current? I would look in the archives but they disappeared Any idea if/when they will return? Also if this info is on a web page somewhere could you please point me to it? Thank you! Sincerely Joseph Fritz
Re: CSMaking CS
Joseph, My homemade generator uses a quart mason jar, with #12 vertically mounted silver wires spaced about 2 inches apart whose ends are about 3/4 of an inch from the bottom. I use a constant current of about 200 microamps and let it brew for 24 hours. The very low current produces very fine particles and doesn't require mechanical or thermal stirring (the Brownian motion provides sufficient stirring). I don't use polarity switching, but I do swap the wires every batch so they wear out evenly. Be sure to use only steam distilled water. If you are handy with electronics, I can send you a schematic of the constant current supply I use. The parts cost around $15. Or, you can simply buy a constant current diode from Mouser Electronics and put it in series with a 24 volt DC wall transformer available from Radio Shack or Jameco or many other sources. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Joseph Fritz jbfr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: CSMaking CS Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've made CS and have lost/misplaced most of what I was using to make CS. I plan on building a new generator. And was wondering what the current consensus on making CS is. I am going to get new wire for making CS I will be making it in a mason jar Any recommendations on what length cathode/electrode for jar size? I will be using 12 gauge silver wire. What size batch? 16, 32, 64OZ Should I use polarity switching? Should I also have an on/off cycle? What voltage/current? I would look in the archives but they disappeared Any idea if/when they will return? Also if this info is on a web page somewhere could you please point me to it? Thank you! Sincerely Joseph Fritz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Bob writes: Power factor becomes a problem in alternating current systems, NOT switched DC systems. It involves the phase angle bewteen the voltage and current in the system. Bob's right, in that the term Power Factor has a specific meaning in alternating current systems with reactive loads, neither of which apply in a typical low voltage CS generator, no matter how sophisticated or simple its design. I think the original person (Wayne?) who suggested Power Factor was simply thinking of the relevance of voltage and current -- which, when multiplied together gives you the power being dissipated in a circuit -- to the making of CS. I think the most relevant answer was alluded to early on on this thread, probably by Bob, again, that if you integrate the current driven through the generating cell, you'll get a number which is very closely related to the total amount of silver that's been put into the water. You can think of this integration process as adding together the current reading every second for the duration of the run. You'll get a figure in milliamp-seconds or amp-seconds. Multiply each reading by the corresponding voltage reading, you'll get a value in milliwatt-seconds or amp-hours, both of which are a measure of work. There might be a lot of information that a careful researcher could tease out of such readings and calculations regarding the form the silver takes in the water in response to applied voltage, relative to surface area, geometry, initial purity, and other factors that affect the process. In fact, Bob has done a lot of just that sort of study. It's easy to confuse matters when one innocently attempts to express an idea with a term that sounds right but already has another, precise but totally different meaning. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Thanks Mike for applying so much clarity to this issue. I think you have described it exactly right. Calculating the total silver released into the solution, or at least the maximum possible, based on watt-seconds was the basis of Bob Lee's and Mike Monet's posts indicating how to calculate the amount of silver in the CS (Faraday's equations of electrolysis, I think...) This is what I used to determine the amount of time to run my 1/2 gallon of CS when I make it with a constant current system but no conductivity sensor. I did the integration of the current before the current limit kicked in, and after that I had a constant current situation which could be regulated for ppm by the time of brewing. This works quite consistently for a known brewing cell with a known distilled water. The thing that's bothering me is illustrated in Ole Bob's graph of the Effects of Initial Conductance on Brew Time on page 8 of his CS book. One brew, starting with higher conductivity water, took 45 minutes, the other,starting with lower conductivity water, took 120 minutes. Both brews ended up with the same general silver ion ppm. However, the first one required 244 watt-seconds and the second one took 348 watt-seconds to get to the same silver ion concentration. This was a polarity switching cell; what happened to the extra liberated silver? The graph says very little tyndall. This implies that it is more efficient to start with higher conductivity distilled water and brew for a shorter time at higher current than to start at a lower conductivity DW and brew longer at a lower current!?... Dan (What? You don't have a copy of Ole Bob's book? Get your a$$ in gear and get one right away! You don't know how long they will be available!... I just bought two more - I had given one away, and now I have one to keep and one to loan out. ;-)) M. G. Devour wrote: Bob writes: Power factor becomes a problem in alternating current systems, NOT switched DC systems. It involves the phase angle bewteen the voltage and current in the system. Bob's right, in that the term Power Factor has a specific meaning in alternating current systems with reactive loads, neither of which apply in a typical low voltage CS generator, no matter how sophisticated or simple its design. I think the original person (Wayne?) who suggested Power Factor was simply thinking of the relevance of voltage and current -- which, when multiplied together gives you the power being dissipated in a circuit -- to the making of CS. I think the most relevant answer was alluded to early on on this thread, probably by Bob, again, that if you integrate the current driven through the generating cell, you'll get a number which is very closely related to the total amount of silver that's been put into the water. You can think of this integration process as adding together the current reading every second for the duration of the run. You'll get a figure in milliamp-seconds or amp-seconds. Multiply each reading by the corresponding voltage reading, you'll get a value in milliwatt-seconds or amp-hours, both of which are a measure of work. There might be a lot of information that a careful researcher could tease out of such readings and calculations regarding the form the silver takes in the water in response to applied voltage, relative to surface area, geometry, initial purity, and other factors that affect the process. In fact, Bob has done a lot of just that sort of study. It's easy to confuse matters when one innocently attempts to express an idea with a term that sounds right but already has another, precise but totally different meaning. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 4/22/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Understood. Groping for a term, you see... Power absorbed perhaps? What? It's not just simple watt hours..complicated watt hours maybe. Never mind, I'm not going to try and figure it out, just do it till I'm done and let it be what it is. ode At 02:46 PM 4/20/2006 -0500, you wrote: Ok, but this is not what is called Power Factor. Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/20/2006 5:30:17 AM Power factor is a consideration but not because of phase shift When the process is interrupted either by removing the electrodes or by switching polarity, some sort of [ionization???] field collapses in the water. It takes several seconds for current to start flowing again. Ode Polarity switching, as we do it for CS making, is much too slow to cause any sort of phase shift requiring consideration of Power Factors. Bottom line, Power Factor - just forget about it... Watts or Total Power - may stand looking into... Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/17/2006 6:02:34 AM I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/319 - Release Date: 4/19/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/19/2006
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Evening Ode, It's not just simple watt hours..complicated watt hours maybe. Never mind, I'm not going to try and figure it out, just do it till I'm done and let it be what it is. From your other message, I think you are thinking of the power for the entire batch process. I was thinking of the instantaneous value to compare different systems, batch sizes, electrode spacing, ect. I fully realize the total watts would be some trouble to calculate. Some of us observe current to learn and develop an instinct for the system that we use. Of course I agree that most need not be concerned with these units or calculations. Wayne -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Power factor is a consideration but not because of phase shift When the process is interrupted either by removing the electrodes or by switching polarity, some sort of [ionization???] field collapses in the water. It takes several seconds for current to start flowing again. Ode Polarity switching, as we do it for CS making, is much too slow to cause any sort of phase shift requiring consideration of Power Factors. Bottom line, Power Factor - just forget about it... Watts or Total Power - may stand looking into... Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/17/2006 6:02:34 AM I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Ok, but this is not what is called Power Factor. Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/20/2006 5:30:17 AM Power factor is a consideration but not because of phase shift When the process is interrupted either by removing the electrodes or by switching polarity, some sort of [ionization???] field collapses in the water. It takes several seconds for current to start flowing again. Ode Polarity switching, as we do it for CS making, is much too slow to cause any sort of phase shift requiring consideration of Power Factors. Bottom line, Power Factor - just forget about it... Watts or Total Power - may stand looking into... Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/17/2006 6:02:34 AM I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
Power factor becomes a problem in alternating current systems, NOT switched DC systems. It involves the phase angle bewteen the voltage and current in the system. So leave it alone. Ole Bob B.S. EE Univ of Illionis 1947. Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Ok, but this is not what is called Power Factor. Dan Ode Coyote 4/20/2006 5:30:17 AM Power factor is a consideration but not because of phase shift When the process is interrupted either by removing the electrodes or by switching polarity, some sort of [ionization???] field collapses in the water. It takes several seconds for current to start flowing again. Ode Polarity switching, as we do it for CS making, is much too slow to cause any sort of phase shift requiring consideration of Power Factors. Bottom line, Power Factor - just forget about it... Watts or Total Power - may stand looking into... Dan Ode Coyote 4/17/2006 6:02:34 AM I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4 - Release Date: 4/18/2006
Re: CSmaking CS - should this be happening?
At 06:19 PM 4/17/2006 -0400, you wrote: I actually built my generator based on the very same design Ode is referring to. I am temporarily using a TDS since that's what I had available, I did order the Hanna PWT for future use. One question here, can those units be used while silver generator is plugged in to take readings without damaging them? ## probably won't hurt the meter but it may also not read right. Why gamble? so my measurments should be based on the electrical current readings rather than TDS/PWT ?? ** No. A good meter is far more accurate. As far as the current meters you're mentioning... I'm guessing they need to get a reading of amperage and voltage... correct? ## Get two of them [cost as little as $3 ea], one in series with a potentiometer and one electrode for current...one in parallel with the electrodes for voltage. Then play and observe what gives you the best results. [You'll get the hang of it in a month or two?] hmmm... not being an expert in this field, I have some idea of what this setup should look like. Is there a a illustrative reference available somewhere I could take a look at? or something that describes how to build this piece in detail...? ** Put simply: Series means you break one of the two wires and add stuff in so electricity enters one side and goes out the other. [do this to monitor and modify current] Parallel means you add a wire to each of the two existing wires without breaking them. [Do this to monitor voltage] Since current and voltage monitering requires different hookups, two meters are needed to do both at once, or some sort of complicated switching to shift from one function to the other. Digital read out display multi-meters are easier to read than analog meters with sweeping needles and multiple scales..and they can be bought for as little as $3 each. [How they can do that when the battery that runs it costs a dollar, I'll never know. The Chinese must be paying their employers to get work] ode From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking CS - should this be happening? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:23:37 -0400 At 10:12 PM 4/16/2006 -0400, you wrote: thanks for your responses, Sam and Ode... I actually built my generator based on the very same design Ode is referring to. I am temporarily using a TDS since that's what I had available, I did order the Hanna PWT for future use. One question here, can those units be used while silver generator is plugged in to take readings without damaging them? ## probably won't hurt the meter but it may also not read right. Why gamble? I will follow your tips to improve my process. My power supply is a 30V / 500mA AC adapter by the way. Also, what kind of reading should I be getting on PWT in distilled water to know that it's good enough? I read that TDS should be below 2, less the better obviously. ## The best I've seen is .2 uS. The worst I'll use is 5 uS. Average is around .5 to .8 uS .5 is about half of zero on a TDS meter and 1 PPM could be as high as 10 uS in that range of a 2000 PPM scale. As far as the current meters you're mentioning... I'm guessing they need to get a reading of amperage and voltage... correct? ## Get two of them [cost as little as $3 ea], one in series with a potentiometer and one electrode for current...one in parallel with the electrodes for voltage. Then play and observe what gives you the best results. [You'll get the hang of it in a month or two?] In the meantime, before I build up my generator, can I just let it run and take occasional readings with TDS/PWT to get an idea when it's time to stop?? ## Yup [double the TDS reading for an approximation of uS and use something like 1 uS = 1 PPM the day after the brew has finished to get some idea about predicting conductivity drop as specific to 'your' process and batch size] IOW 5PPM gets you 10...tomorrow, but might say 18 today. Make charts of voltage, current and PPM/uS in 10 minute increments so you can repeat a good batch. ...or...let the faces you make in the mirror be your dose guide, use whatever happens that doesn't look like sludge with a hint of caution and be happy. ;-) Ode thanks for all your help again From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmaking CS - should this be happening? Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:09:30 -0400 Sure Clocks can't work to predict anything unless: 1] you know where you started [a very small difference in water quality makes a huge difference in the amount of time it takes to get to a desired place.] 2] you have some idea of the current ramp up rate [aka runaway]..it's by no means linear like a clock. How far out depends on the generator type you're using. If it's a constant voltage unit
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
I'm not entirely sure I follow your logic... Generally, Watts is equal to Volts times Amps. Watts is also called Power, or the amount of Work done. If the Volts and Amps are in phase with each other then Watts is equal to Volts times Amps. If the Volts and Amps are out of phase with each other, the amount of actual work done is less than Volts times Amps and you use a correction factor called the Power Factor to show or calculate that. Generally, for DC circuits the Voltage and Current are always in phase with each other and the Power Factor is equal to 1. So you can just ignore it... Polarity switching, as we do it for CS making, is much too slow to cause any sort of phase shift requiring consideration of Power Factors. Bottom line, Power Factor - just forget about it... Watts or Total Power - may stand looking into... Dan Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net 4/17/2006 6:02:34 AM I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmaking CS - The Work Factor
I follow your logic too. More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term power factor comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and grasp [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner. [ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ] Power factor is expressed in terms of watts? [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-) I'm one of those 'seat of the pants' people. I've hopped into a lot of rides looking for a comfortable one. I've quenched a fire on more than one molten transformer with a big Nope...That ain't it LOL [PS unplug it first ] Or is that, once you figure out about the watts, then it's all about the hows? That's watt electronics design engineers are for. [Draw me something that does this and I'll build it for a crash test drive. ] ..never stop test driving and chasing watts. For the newbies...an ode: Ten years ago, NOBODY knew anything about how to make EIS / CS other than it could be done. There simply wasn't anything to look up and no one to ask. Everyone walks a path a little differently and everyone eventually gets somewhere if they keep walking. The task is that of the wonderer. [Who bumps the ol head a lot] It's the wanderer that finds new paths. [and stubs the toes a lot] Every newbie is a potential innovator because he/she DOESN'T know what they're doing...and knows it. An expert is a newbie that quit wondering and sat down. [adding salt to the water for a few decades?] Think about this: Most laboratories don't know how to analyze EIS. They have no idea what it is. A CS newbie, at least, has an idea. When no one knows watt a final destination might be, everyone who travels is a crash test dumb ass. Being igner'nt is just part of the deal. Have you ever cooked and eaten a weiner by sticking the bare ends of an extension cord into it and plugging it in to the wall ? I'll have a hot dog with Ohm slaw [PS, unpupulug it firrt...or the mustard goes on in a wavy oscilloscope like pattern.] ode [Amply stated: Hey! Watt the wiggling volt currently happened here! ] At 09:16 AM 4/16/2006 -0500, you wrote: Morning Ode, I follow your thinking and logic. At 08:09 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote: If it's a constant voltage unit: The first hour you might get 1 to 10 PPM, the next, from 10 to 50 PPM..all depending where on the electrical current acceleration curve you started, as set by the initial water quality where a mere 1/2 microsiemens difference in starting conductivity between batches makes all that difference in PPM and the time it takes to get there. A year or two ago, I tried to introduce another unit that is never mentioned. It was the Wattage Factor. After all, we don't measure electrical work in current or PPM. I think your complete message does in fact relate to the wattage dissipated or used in the process. Most everyone seemed to want to ignore the unit of Watts. Possibly you or one more person did make a comment of two that indicated my thinking had some merit. I suppose the reason that most wanted to forget watts, is the fact that the process is already beyond the understanding of the non technical. With this in mind, the non technical should forget all the technical terms and learn a non technical process that relates to vision, taste, color, and a few other factors. I use a simple constant voltage unit that operates at 52 Volts DC. The people that use the intelligent generators are ahead of the game and need not know any of the technicalities. As I learned when making wine years ago, there are two ways to do it. One is by the Seat of the Pants, the other is by the book. Could making CS be like this? I see many messages by the new people that indicate they are genuinely confused. Basically, we are talking about making a technical process, ... NON technical. I think your statements above relate to the Power used in the process. As you said, this instantaneous factor will be changing as the conductivity or the resistive media changes. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/313 - Release Date: 4/15/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1 - Release Date: 4/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.2 - Release Date: 4/16/2006