Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-17 Thread Faith Gagne

No, it is not exactly like saying any such silly thing.  Faith G.

- Original Message - 
From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net

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  Isn't that like saying that morphine doesn't stop pain if you don't like 
the spacey buzz?
Hate pot or not, if you toke it or eat it, your lungs dry out and the 
passages clear.



..two tokes saved my strangling ex from a coma and she hated pot too. [and 
worked a pee bottle job ]
 Nothing else even touched it, not even the opium derivatives, but the 
evil weed got her breathing easy in 30 seconds after nearly turning blue 
and not sleeping for a week.

..and only one application needed.

Ode


At 03:59 PM 6/14/2008 -0400, you wrote:

 but a good dose of pot might help.

Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.

Ode

.



Pot does not help if you hate it.

Faith G.


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-16 Thread Ode Coyote



  Isn't that like saying that morphine doesn't stop pain if you don't like 
the spacey buzz?
Hate pot or not, if you toke it or eat it, your lungs dry out and the 
passages clear.



..two tokes saved my strangling ex from a coma and she hated pot too. [and 
worked a pee bottle job ]
 Nothing else even touched it, not even the opium derivatives, but the 
evil weed got her breathing easy in 30 seconds after nearly turning blue 
and not sleeping for a week.

..and only one application needed.

Ode


At 03:59 PM 6/14/2008 -0400, you wrote:

 but a good dose of pot might help.

Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.

Ode

.



Pot does not help if you hate it.

Faith G.


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-16 Thread Ode Coyote



  CS decontaminates, pot de congests. [The cotton mouth side effect ]
 De congesting helps inhaled CS penetrate in order  to de contaminate.
Inhaling anything is only bettered by injection as a most direct route to 
the blood stream. [Ask any crack head ]


..even illicit drugs can teach something to someone who's not dumb enough 
to get themselves strung out on them.


 Proceed cautiously, observe carefully, adjust behavior and uses 
accordingly and no substance will be a problem on its own, legal or not.
 Sometimes, trading a lessor problem in to adjust the effects of a worse 
one is worth doing.
If catching an opinion of an unpleasant buzz will save my butt..I'll go for 
the buzz.
If I have to keep that buzz for very long, it ain't working as desired, so 
try I'll something else.

If it does work, I don't have to keep it going.

ode

At 01:49 PM 6/15/2008 +0100, you wrote:

The CS or the pot?  Dee

---Original Message---

From: mailto:odecoy...@alltel.netOde Coyote
Date: 06/14/08 18:39:34
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings


Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.



Ode


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-16 Thread Dee
Righto!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 16/06/2008 16:27:51
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
 
   CS decontaminates, pot de congests. [The cotton mouth side effect ]
  De congesting helps inhaled CS penetrate in order  to de contaminate.
Inhaling anything is only bettered by injection as a most direct route to
the blood stream. [Ask any crack head ]
 
...even illicit drugs can teach something to someone who's not dumb enough
to get themselves strung out on them.
 
  

Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-15 Thread Dee
The CS or the pot?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 06/14/08 18:39:34
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
 
Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.
 
 
 
Ode
 

Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-14 Thread Ode Coyote



How are people screwing up your genes?


What I was suggesting was the value and wisdom of preventing already 
screwed up genes from being passed down.


Ode






And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without my 
knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway. Sometimes 
I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from.


kathryn

On Jun 13, 2



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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-14 Thread Ode Coyote

At 02:54 PM 6/13/2008 -0700, you wrote:


On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Ode wrote:

 For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 
100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in 
its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage


What works for this, does CS?

Nancy

##  Not likely, other than for prevention...


The sniffles last longer than the cause of sniffles


 but a good dose of pot might help.


Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.



Ode


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-14 Thread Faith Gagne

 but a good dose of pot might help.


Best decongestant for de-strangling the lungs I've ever found.



Ode

.



Pot does not help if you hate it.

Faith G.


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-13 Thread Ode Coyote



  A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure.
In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune system 
response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production without going 
into inflammation.
 What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce a 
given antibody to a particular class of virus.
 Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what 
makes them so hard to defeat.


An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing 
antibodies one way or another.
 Usually a weakened  or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus is 
used to do that job.

 If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used.
 A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead strains.

 Part of that immune system response can be inflammation.
If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires 
inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a big 
problem, no matter what triggers it.


It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage, 
[Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even though 
the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with care and the 
default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that virus will always 
be a possibility, with the same, or worse, consequences.
Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from a 
vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive 
possibilities than the weakened or relatively harmless similar virus has.


Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear drums, 
optic nerves and other delicate things.
 Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an over 
response to it that does.
 For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 100% 
deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in its own 
defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual damage
 In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito and 
that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool.
 With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something 
similar.


If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of the 
population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's playing 
God..isn't it?
 Everyone has a God given right to screw up everyones genes even when they 
know they might very likely do so. [wink]


 PS  Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as well. 
[The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while the hairy 
skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ]


  Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot I 
want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet house 
building bricks they want and not rot teeth.

 Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter.

Ode


At 12:47 PM 6/12/2008 -0500, you wrote:
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not the 
mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did not see 
the one about the inflammation.  So if it is inflammation, why does a 
killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems?  My son had a severe 
reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The killed vac 
did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed that statement 
up.  oh well...


kathryn


On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:



As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the 
mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact 
to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to.

Ie:  Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying.

 It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, 
subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to 
public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional.



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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-13 Thread Ode Coyote

At 08:21 PM 6/12/2008 +0100, you wrote:
I read that autism *is* caused by the mercury in vaccines, but only in 
children that lack the ability to rid their bodies of 'heavy' metals, 
(something to do with Vit D synthesis?) which is why not all vaccinated 
children become autistic.  This came from the Institute of Autism.  Dee



  Read some more and from more recent research..not just from the American 
sources, unfounded conspiracy theory sites and rumor mills.
 In Denmark?, Mercury levels were about identical in both sorts of kids 
and none had mercury in their vaccines.


On the internet, anyone can appear to be anyone they want to .  Many 
sources and the application of logic eliminates the conflicts in info 
Presented As the final word by those who may or may not be who they say 
they are.
Diagnosis comes from commonalities over conflicts, be it a mechanic or a 
doctor.
 If you find a commonality that will contain the conflicts, that's 
probably the best picture available and a good starting point towards a 
bigger one that holds solutions.


 Mercury would have been simpler and easier to avoid...too bad.

Ode



---Original Message---

From: mailto:clay...@skypoint.comClayton Family
Date: 12/06/2008 18:48:01
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings

Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not
the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did
not see the one about the inflammation.  So if it is inflammation, why
does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems?  My son had a
severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The
killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed
that statement up.  oh well...

kathryn


On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:


 As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not
 the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based

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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-13 Thread Clayton Family
Interesting. So the bird flu kills due to enhanced inflammatory 
response? I thought it was immune system overdrive. But perhaps I 
repeat myself.


I remember in my previous readings about the polio vac- the Sauk vac is 
a killed vac, while the Sabin is live. The Sabin vac causes x # cases 
of polio per thousand uses, the Sauk vac causes zero.  IMHO, it is 
unconscienable to submit innocent children to unnecessary suffering. I 
understand the reasoning behind the decision, but I seriously disagree 
with it.  There are too many problems with live viruses, but the public 
health people do not agree with me. They think more about collateral 
damage being the cost of victory, they think it is the greatest good 
for the greatest number, I guess.


And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without 
my knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway. 
Sometimes I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from.


kathryn

On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:




  A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure.
In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune 
system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production 
without going into inflammation.
 What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce 
a given antibody to a particular class of virus.
 Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what 
makes them so hard to defeat.


An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing 
antibodies one way or another.
 Usually a weakened  or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus 
is used to do that job.

 If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used.
 A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead 
strains.


 Part of that immune system response can be inflammation.
If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires 
inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a 
big problem, no matter what triggers it.


It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage, 
[Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even 
though the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with 
care and the default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that 
virus will always be a possibility, with the same, or worse, 
consequences.
Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from 
a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive 
possibilities than the weakened or relatively harmless similar virus 
has.


Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear 
drums, optic nerves and other delicate things.
 Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an 
over response to it that does.
 For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 
100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in 
its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual 
damage
 In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito 
and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool.
 With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something 
similar.


If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of 
the population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's 
playing God..isn't it?   Everyone has a God given right to screw up 
everyones genes even when they know they might very likely do so. 
[wink]


 PS  Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as 
well. [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while 
the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ]


  Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot 
I want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet 
house building bricks they want and not rot teeth.

 Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter.

Ode


At 12:47 PM 6/12/2008 -0500, you wrote:
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not 
the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did 
not see the one about the inflammation.  So if it is inflammation, 
why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems?  My son 
had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus 
vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical 
studies backed that statement up.  oh well...


kathryn


On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:



As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's 
not the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be 
based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under 
to.

Ie:  Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying.

 It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public 
servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will 
knuckle under to public pressure 

RE: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-13 Thread Dan Nave

[nod]  


You wrote:

[wink] 

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:48 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
 
 
A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure.
 In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an 
 immune system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody 
 production without going into inflammation.
   What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do 
 to produce a given antibody to a particular class of virus.
   Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, 
 that's what makes them so hard to defeat.
 
 An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into 
 producing antibodies one way or another.
   Usually a weakened  or similar but *relatively* harmless 
 live virus is used to do that job.
   If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used.
   A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and 
 dead strains.
 
   Part of that immune system response can be inflammation.
 If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body 
 requires inflammation to get the job done, the immune system 
 triggered can be a big problem, no matter what triggers it.
 
 It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine 
 damage, [Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] 
 however...even though the odds of catching a destructive 
 virus may be reduced with care and the default of everyone 
 else being vaccinated, catching that virus will always be a 
 possibility, with the same, or worse, consequences.
 Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate 
 invasion from a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have 
 other destructive possibilities than the weakened or 
 relatively harmless similar virus has.
 
 Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart 
 valves, ear drums, optic nerves and other delicate things.
   Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, 
 it's an over response to it that does.
   For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu 
 is nearly 100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the 
 body from drowning in its own defenses...the virus itself, 
 isn't and does very little actual damage
   In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a 
 mosquito and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool.
   With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing 
 something similar.
 
 If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be 
 bred out of the population by selective reproductive 
 sterilization..but that's playing God..isn't it?
   Everyone has a God given right to screw up everyones genes 
 even when they know they might very likely do so. [wink]
 
   PS  Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic 
 trait as well. 
 [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while 
 the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ]
 
Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the 
 tooth rot I want and not get big as a house while they can 
 eat all the sweet house building bricks they want and not rot teeth.
   Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter.
 
 Ode


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-13 Thread Tad Winiecki


On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Ode wrote:

 For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly 
100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning 
in its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little 
actual damage


What works for this, does CS?

Nancy


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-12 Thread Clayton Family
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not 
the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did 
not see the one about the inflammation.  So if it is inflammation, why 
does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems?  My son had a 
severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The 
killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed 
that statement up.  oh well...


kathryn


On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:



As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not 
the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based 
on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to.

Ie:  Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying.

 It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public 
servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle 
under to public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional.



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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-12 Thread Dee
I read that autism *is* caused by the mercury in vaccines, but only in
children that lack the ability to rid their bodies of 'heavy' metals,
(something to do with Vit D synthesis?) which is why not all vaccinated
children become autistic.  This came from the Institute of Autism.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Clayton Family
Date: 12/06/2008 18:48:01
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not
the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did
not see the one about the inflammation.  So if it is inflammation, why
does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems?  My son had a
severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus vac. The
killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical studies backed
that statement up.  oh well...
 
kathryn
 
 
On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
 

 As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not
 the mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based

Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-11 Thread Dee
This is very good news Kurt.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
Date: 10/06/2008 23:11:23
To: 8th...@yahoogroups.com;  avian2...@yahoogroups.com; 
thefrontp...@yahoogroups.com;  silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change
all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous
drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment.
Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets.
 
This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense
that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of
Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major
entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money.
Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around
amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and
the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of
the way that over enough time things can be changed.
 

Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-11 Thread kmilkowski
No problem. I figured there would be a few that liked this one, especially Mike?

Kurt
 Dee  d...@deetroy.org wrote: 
 This is very good news Kurt.  Dee 
 
 
 
 ---Original Message---
 
  
 
 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
 
 Date: 10/06/2008 23:11:23
 
 To: 8th...@yahoogroups.com;  avian2...@yahoogroups.com; 
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 Subject: CSDental Mercury VictoryFDA MUST classify fillings
 
  
 
 How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change
 all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous
 drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment.
 Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets.
 
  
 
 This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense
 that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of
 Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major
 entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money.
 Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception around
 amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and
 the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of
 the way that over enough time things can be changed.
 
  


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Re: CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-11 Thread Ode Coyote


As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's not the 
mercury that causes Autism, a change does not have to be based on fact to 
develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under to.

Ie:  Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying.

 It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public servant, 
subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will knuckle under to 
public pressure when an alternative is adequately functional.


It proves that pressure works, based in fact or not. [The truth, WHAT EVER 
it may be... is irrelevant...when the why nots, overwhelm the why tos and 
the consumer is willing to pay the difference when a somewhat less 
reliable, more expensive, but adequately functional filling leaks.  Pick 
Mercury content as a reason, valid or not..and there ya go. ]


It has been shown that it's the inflammation from the vaccine that causes 
Autism, but only in genetically weakened individuals, as would the disease 
the vaccine is designed to prevent.  But that can't be proven because 
taking the Vaccine prevents the second scenario.
 On the other hand, not being vaccinated doesn't mean you'll catch a 
disease, which accounts for statistical differences.
 On the other other hand, those who do get vaccinated transfer a sort of 
protection to those who aren't by interrupting the transmission vectors.


Yes, treatments can be dangerous.  The question is ALWAYS, is the treatment 
more or less dangerous that what is being treated?

..and, are there safer alternatives that actually work more reliably?
 Sometimes there are, but that's no reason to throw rocks at doctors who 
labor under threat of lawsuit and unable to try anything out of that *safe 
legal box*, for not knowing everything under the sun and taking a chance on 
something relatively more unproven.


 A doctor cannot choose something that may not be more reliable, yet might 
work with less danger.

YOU can do that only because suing yourself doesn't pay.

EVERYONE goes by their *best guess*
[and denying ignorance has never equaled knowing anything ]
 A guess can work for no known reason at all, in spite of any wrong but 
irrelevant reasons.


There ARE no absolute truths on this planet..everything is relative in a 
dualistic universe.
Those who insist otherwise are lying in the *same manner* they claim 
someone else is.


To go Your way doesn't require changing everyone elses.
..and billions of people can be just as dead wrong as one person can be.

This was not a victory, it was a pressured vindication, proving only that 
people in numbers have the same power to manipulate policy that a public 
office has, regardless of any truths.

Jim Crow showed us another, albeit, more starkly consequential example.

Ode

At 06:10 PM 6/10/2008 -0400, you wrote:

How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to 
change all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with 
dangerous drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, 
dangerous treatment. Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on 
to your wallets.


This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the 
nonsense that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current 
treatment of Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, 
are major entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts 
and money. Here you will read about how finally a change in the perception 
around amalgam fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition 
building and the correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are 
all part of the way that over enough time things can be changed.


These groups (including AAHF) developed strategies, built a united voice, 
and relied on credible information.  To change the policy, there were 
petitions, Congressional hearings, state fact sheet laws, Scientific 
Advisory Committee hearings, and support letters, all setting the stage 
for the lawsuit.


It appears that somehow our system of Government occasionally works!  Even 
the FDA cannot stay above the law forever. The FDA has thrown in the towel 
over mercury in amalgams! They will no longer lie on their website about 
its safety!!  The end of mercury fillings is in sight!


The team here with Charles Brown, as the lead attorney, has done the 
impossible.


There is hope with this victory that someday other major lies about 
Alternative Medicine will also finally be overcome even if very slowly and 
expensively.  This battle has cost proponents millions and those whose 
lives were needlessly wasted with ill health, billions!


But the good news is that with enough dedication to the fight, it proves 
it is possible in spite of the odds, and in all of our fights there are 
well endowed, deeply entrenched vested interests whether you talk about 
Autism or Cancer or Heart Disease or learning and memory problems, status 
quo always raises it head.


Further good news, 

CSDental Mercury Victory....FDA MUST classify fillings

2008-06-10 Thread kmilkowski

How to stop Mercury in our mouths is a case in point regarding how to change 
all the nonsense we see in medicine where treating symptoms with dangerous 
drugs and never focusing on causes makes for expensive, dangerous treatment. 
Now the Government will come to the rescue; hold on to your wallets. 

This is important to understand. Changing the impossible, like the nonsense 
that everyone needs cholesterol lowering drugs, or the current treatment of 
Cancer, as though it is a local disease that can be cut out, are major 
entrenched concepts that will take the same concerted efforts and money. Here 
you will read about how finally a change in the perception around amalgam 
fillings through hearings and fact sheets and coalition building and the 
correct lawsuit by capable dedicated caring attorneys are all part of the way 
that over enough time things can be changed. 

These groups (including AAHF) developed strategies, built a united voice, and 
relied on credible information.  To change the policy, there were petitions, 
Congressional hearings, state fact sheet laws, Scientific Advisory Committee 
hearings, and support letters, all setting the stage for the lawsuit.

It appears that somehow our system of Government occasionally works!  Even the 
FDA cannot stay above the law forever. The FDA has thrown in the towel over 
mercury in amalgams! They will no longer lie on their website about its 
safety!!  The end of mercury fillings is in sight! 

The team here with Charles Brown, as the lead attorney, has done the 
impossible. 

There is hope with this victory that someday other major lies about Alternative 
Medicine will also finally be overcome even if very slowly and expensively.  
This battle has cost proponents millions and those whose lives were needlessly 
wasted with ill health, billions! 

But the good news is that with enough dedication to the fight, it proves it is 
possible in spite of the odds, and in all of our fights there are well endowed, 
deeply entrenched vested interests whether you talk about Autism or Cancer or 
Heart Disease or learning and memory problems, status quo always raises it 
head. 

Further good news, however! The Time Magazine June 6th issue with a picture of 
a baby on the front cover and the article, The Truth About Vaccines, actually 
admits THERE IS A DANGER!!! 
Amazingly it concludes that with Autism there must be a genetic and 
environmental component. Of course, they have never read Newsweek about DNA, 
Epigenetics, Methylation, Agouti mice, etc so no one connects the dots.

Randy Jirtle, at Duke with his Agouti Mice, then proves that with exposures to 
some toxins like Bisphenyl A we all have in our bodies, we can all start to be 
healthier with adequate methylation support. They are not aware that cheap 
Folic acid found in 99% of supplements will NOT fill this need optimally over a 
lifetime but only all three folic acid versions with B-12, B-6 and the rest of 
the methylation support I write about from NAC to TMG and MSM, even SAM-e etc. 

The defect in methylation that we now realize is proven to be related to 
mutations that virtually all of us have in 5’MTHFR enzyme pathways, even before 
we get an overload of toxins like phthalates, which are now known to be 10,000 
times higher in the average person than 10 years ago, IMPAIRS OUR ABILITY TO 
DETOXIFY things like MERCURY. 

Now that we are finally aware that we need to get the mercury out of our 
mouths, the environment is bringing us much more mercury.  The rapid 
construction of new Coal burning power plants around the world will make sure 
we all are still mercury toxic unless you follow my protocol and start a 
lifetime ingestion of oral chelators from DMSA to EDTA to NAC to DL METHIONE to 
proven clean garlic supplements, Beyond Fiber, BioEn’R-G’y C etc. 

Thus, just like the Time Magazine article about Vaccines and Autism states, 
even with the removal of most thiomersal from vaccines over the past 7 years, 
there is no decrease in Autism incidence. Of course, you can explain this when 
you read that for every new coal burning power plant in Texas the incidence of 
autism continues to rise, and it is now shown to be related to how close the 
child lives to the power plant. 

Garry F. Gordon MD,DO,MD(H)
President, Gordon Research Institute
www.gordonresearch.com


Dental Mercury Victory 

AAHF is pleased to announce that the Food and Drug Administration must now 
classify mercury fillings!  We congratulate Consumers for Dental Choices, Moms 
Against Mercury, International Academy of Oral and Metal Toxicology, and all 
other groups and individuals who have dedicated years to the issue of the 
dangers of dental mercury.
This is a successful end to a 10-year battle to get the FDA to comply with the 
law and set a date to classify mercury amalgam.
On Monday, June 2, Consumers for Dental Choice announced that they settled the 
lawsuit, Moms 

RE: CSdental mercury/WARTS- to Jeff

2006-02-22 Thread Jeff
Sorry it took so long for the reply. Yes there is a history of diabetes 

in my family and I have type 2 I just found out last year. Also I was 

asking for my self about the skin tags and I would be interested in any 

information you happen to have. I tried CS + MSM + DMSO + 100% Aloe 

jell but it didn't work.  

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSdental mercury/WARTS- to Jeff

 

Hi Jeff,
Skin tags have been associated with Diabetes.  Is there such a history in
your family, presuming you are asking for youself or someone you know.

In which case, actually, any case I would have to check my Homeopathic
reference materials regarding your question. 


Jeff ssc...@grandecom.net wrote: 

Do you think this might work on skin tags as well?

Jeff

! 

 

 

 



Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
That would be slick!

Marshall

Jim Holmes wrote:

 Teflon condoms next.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:03 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSdental mercury

 Probably DuPont's pledge is baloney.

 In Japan, there has been for some years a great push to sell ordinary
 mens' clothing -- shirts, neckties, and such -- with Teflon coating, to
 prevent stains, you see.   One wonders whether the new non-stick
 neckties also release their miraculous coatings into the home
 environment.

 What next?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 07:40 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

  The EPA announced last month that DuPont has voluntarily agreed to
  reduce its use of the chemical,

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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-18 Thread Jeff
Do you think this might work on skin tags as well?

Jeff

 

 

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From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury

 

Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They are
skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.  What is usually recommend is the
following. 

Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of
persistent warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002322.htm  ), burning
(electrocautery http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002359.htm
), or laser treatment may be needed.

There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur
especially in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja.
Excellent!!!  Should be kept in the medicine cabinet. 

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by
treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve
the virus. 

Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to. One
of my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The Doctors
wanted to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds on his
arms, legs, torso. Imagine.

So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone.  Thjua
has many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their
Diplomas, hang it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book.



Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori. 
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
protocols. 50%. Can you imagine?

JBB
On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-18 Thread Susan
at least change the subject line if you are no longer talking about dental 
mercury

Jeff ssc...@grandecom.net wrote:Do you think this might work 
on skin tags as well?
  Jeff
 

   
  -Original Message-
From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
   
  Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They are 
skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.  What is usually recommend is the 
following. 

Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of persistent 
warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ), burning 
(electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur especially 
in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja.  Excellent!!!  Should be 
kept in the medicine cabinet. 

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by treating 
the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve the virus. 

Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to. One of 
my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The Doctors wanted 
to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds on his arms, legs, 
torso. Imagine.

So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone.  Thjua has 
many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their Diplomas, hang 
it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book. 


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori. 
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
protocols. 50%. Can you imagine?

JBB
On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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RE: CSdental mercury/WARTS- to Jeff

2006-02-18 Thread Carol Ann
Hi Jeff,
Skin tags have been associated with Diabetes.  Is there such a history in your 
family, presuming you are asking for youself or someone you know.

In which case, actually, any case I would have to check my Homeopathic 
reference materials regarding your question. 

Jeff ssc...@grandecom.net wrote:Do you think this might work 
on skin tags as well?
  Jeff
 

   
  -Original Message-
From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
   
  Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They are 
skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.  What is usually recommend is the 
following. 

Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of persistent 
warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ), burning 
(electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur especially 
in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja.  Excellent!!!  Should be 
kept in the medicine cabinet. 

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

How can one l!  ogically  eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by 
treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve the 
virus. 

Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to. One of 
my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The Doctors wanted 
to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds on his arms, legs, 
torso. Imagine.

So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone.  Thjua has 
many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their Diplomas, hang 
it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book. 


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori. 
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
protocols. 50%. Can you imagine?

JBB
On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Peter

hi ..

found this !

http://www.harmonology.com.au/ch77.htm

I vill try this immediately !

peter




Hi Jonathan,

Yupp there are always good ones out there of every proffession. there are 
even some good politicians.
And Im sure most doctors have good intentions and do what they think is 
right.





Take care,
V



Great URL link, V, but as for your statement, well, there are some
wonderful MDs out there too.



Y. Omura, MD is one of the white hats.   Reading his collected essays
would be an education to anyone interested in cutting-edge medicine.
The Nobel Prize Committee overlooked a good candidate I think.



And isn't the great Robert O. Becker also an MD?



And look at the list of first-rate MDs supporting the Life Extension
Foundation.  These are some of the good ones.



Best to avoid blanket condemnations, methinks.



JBB




On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 13:54 Asia/Tokyo, V wrote:



Hi Jonathan,



I can imagine doctors are idiots.



http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm






Take care,
 V




A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest
protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?



JBB



On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:



And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom
and education?




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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Carol Ann
Warts are actually benign tumors of the epidermis caused by a virus. The virus 
responsible is the human papillomavirus (HPV), a double-stranded DNA virus. The 
virus resides in the bottom layer of the epidermis and replicates into almost 
normal-looking skin. Different sub-types of HPV cause different types of warts. 
Some human papillomavirus subtypes also cause cervical cancer and other more 
obscure types of wart-related cancers. 'The Wart Root Myth
Contrary to popular belief, warts do not have roots. They only grow in the 
top layer of skin, the epidermis. When they grow down, they displace the second 
layer of skin, the dermis. They do not grow into the dermis. The underside of a 
wart is actually smooth.
Dear V,
HPV causes a rapid growth of cells on the outer layer of the skin. There are 60 
different kinds...this is a VIRUS.   Masking tape will remove the Wart, but it 
will not kill or control the Virus and they will re appear in other area of the 
epidermis, especially so when children contract the Virus  from another child 
or an infested playground.Applying duct tape to this type of infection 
would be having the child walk around like Frankenstein covered in duct tape.  
On an indiviidual wart, the CS and electrodes would probably work but treating 
multiple locations, or breakouts  would be a tedious task.

Carol Ann



 


V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: 

You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the 
silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

Also warts are killed by masknig tape.


Take care,
 V


 Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They
 are skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.   What is usually recommend is 
 the following.

 Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of
 persistent warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ),
 burning (electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

 There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur
 especially in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja. 
 Excellent!!!  Should be kept in the medicine cabinet. 

 http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

 How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by
 treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve 
 the virus.

 Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to.
 One of my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The
 Doctors wanted to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds 
 on his arms, legs, torso. Imagine.

 So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone. 
 Thjua has many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their
 Diplomas, hang it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book.


 Jonathan B. Britten  wrote: A fairly
 recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
V wrote:

 You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the 
 silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

 Also warts are killed by masknig tape.

Masking tape, or duct tape?

Marshall



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
You are just a really nice and helpful person aren't
you Deborah. You must wake up each day feeling so
great for the wonderful human you are.


--- Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I don't recall that being the question...but I got
 rid of the mercury for starters...deb
 
 Debbie Mcdonald bely...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I
 dont mean adapt, but it developes defenses to keep
 you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut,
 the
 obvious question that you did not answer. 
 
 --- Deborah Gerard wrote:
 
  I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
  gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
  because they did not know what to do with me..I
  disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it
 would
  adapt then there would not be a progression in
  illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no
 longer
  have any bowel problems at all debbie
 
 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Deborah Gerard
You might want to consider colonics for that bug up you rectum my dear I resent 
highly being talked to like this I always help whoever I canMike you want 
to step in here please???

Debbie Mcdonald bely...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  You are just a really nice and 
helpful person aren't
you Deborah. You must wake up each day feeling so
great for the wonderful human you are.


--- Deborah Gerard wrote:

 I don't recall that being the question...but I got
 rid of the mercury for starters...deb
 
 Debbie Mcdonald wrote: I
 dont mean adapt, but it developes defenses to keep
 you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut,
 the
 obvious question that you did not answer. 
 
 --- Deborah Gerard wrote:
 
  I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
  gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
  because they did not know what to do with me..I
  disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it
 would
  adapt then there would not be a progression in
  illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no
 longer
  have any bowel problems at all debbie
 
 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Susan
I think that repairing my leaky gut is the issue that keeps me in health crisis 
repeatedly. I wonder if it will ever be fixed.  susan

Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:I don't recall that being 
the question...but I got rid of the mercury for starters...deb

Debbie Mcdonald bely...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   I dont mean adapt, but it 
developes defenses to keep
you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut, the
obvious question that you did not answer. 

--- Deborah Gerard wrote:

 I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
 gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
 because they did not know what to do with me..I
 disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it would
 adapt then there would not be a progression in
 illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no longer
 have any bowel problems at all debbie


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Rich Adams

Duct tape.

It works.


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Also warts are killed by masknig tape.



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread M. G. Devour
Jim writes:
  Teflon condoms next. 

Craig replies:
 Why not, we already had a teflon president* big grin *

Several, in fact! But we *won't* go there, right guys??!!!

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CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Holmes
Excellent.  Thanks for the link.  I just posted it to my fave forum. 

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:55 PM
To: Jonathan B. Britten
Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury

Hi Jonathan,

I can imagine doctors are idiots.

http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm




Take care,
 V


 A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Holmes
Details of how to wire the wart? 

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:57 PM
To: Carol Ann
Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury



You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the
silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

Also warts are killed by masknig tape.


Take care,
 V


 Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They
 are skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.   What is usually recommend is
the following.

 Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of
 persistent warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ),
 burning (electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

 There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur
 especially in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja. 
 Excellent!!!  Should be kept in the medicine cabinet. 

 http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

 How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by
 treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to
resolve the virus.

 Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to.
 One of my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The
 Doctors wanted to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds
on his arms, legs, torso. Imagine.

 So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone. 
 Thjua has many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their
 Diplomas, hang it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another
book.


 Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A fairly
 recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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CSRE: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Holmes
V,  

I think you will find that claim to be made with Duct tape, not masking
tape.  The formula for the adhesive is quite different between the two. 

-Original Message-
From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:57 PM
To: Carol Ann
Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury



You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the
silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

Also warts are killed by masknig tape.


Take care,
 V


 Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They
 are skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.   What is usually recommend is
the following.

 Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of
 persistent warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ),
 burning (electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

 There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur
 especially in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja. 
 Excellent!!!  Should be kept in the medicine cabinet. 

 http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

 How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by
 treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to
resolve the virus.

 Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to.
 One of my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The
 Doctors wanted to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds
on his arms, legs, torso. Imagine.

 So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone. 
 Thjua has many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their
 Diplomas, hang it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another
book.


 Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A fairly
 recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Holmes
Teflon condoms next. 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury

Probably DuPont's pledge is baloney.

In Japan, there has been for some years a great push to sell ordinary 
mens' clothing -- shirts, neckties, and such -- with Teflon coating, to 
prevent stains, you see.   One wonders whether the new non-stick 
neckties also release their miraculous coatings into the home 
environment.

What next?

JBB



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 The EPA announced last month that DuPont has voluntarily agreed to 
 reduce its use of the chemical,


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Craig C Chamberlin

Hi Jim,

Teflon condoms next. 


Why not, we already had a teflon president* big grin *

Craig


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Robert Berger
When are you people going to stop this dental mercruy nonesense ?
   
  Find another subject.
   
  Ole Bob :-(




Re: CSdental mercury (with apologies to Ole Bob)

2006-02-17 Thread Hannah
I happily oblige with Mike's request to share  my email to him 
earlier this week with the members on this list.   Sorry Bob, it will 
by my one and only contribution on the subject, hope you will forgive me.


Cheers
Hanneke ~ Australia



Hi Mike

I have been following the mercury discussion for a while but haven't 
contributed thus far.  I think I have written a short post in the 
past about my health issues which stemmed from mercury poisoning, 
mainly amalgam fillings. But with the archives down I can't look it up.


I am all in favour of having amalgams removed and I write below 
why.   There is also a support group on yahoo, adult-metal-chelation 
where Andrew Cutler appears regularly. One can ask him  questions 
directly.   I got his book here and dearly wished I had that sort of 
information when I was dealing with it in the late 70's.  Would have 
been a short cut too incredible to be possible, and I'm sure I 
wouldn't have felt the lone ranger in my search for better health.



I had a tentative MS diagnosis three months after giving birth to my 
youngest daughter (1978).   The sight in my left eye was gone, and 
most symptoms I had were said to be consistent with MS  (rubbery 
legs, tremors,  band around head, no knee reflexes and other).   This 
was a scary time with still some belief in the medical system 
left.  That latest health hiccup came on top of niggling health 
issues that I had been experiencing for years  ( trouble 
conceiving,  trouble keeping weight on, brain fog,  emotional about 
the tiniest things,  ongoing colds and sinus problems, looking not 
healthy and quite a few others I have forgotten about.  Basically, I 
was always sick with something, and they never could tell me what).


Since I rejected the suggestion of it being MS I started doing my own 
research (this all started in 1978),  it took me 10 full years of 
doggedly reading all and everything I could get my hands on.  Since 
most of my 'complaints' were said to be in my head, I tried to get 
access to the library of a psychiatric hospital too.  With English 
being my second language I had trouble understanding all the 
academic  dithering but my searching was on the right track,  Was a 
gut feeling and I just kept going.
In 1988 I thought I had enough info to decide for myself it was 
mercury poisoning, I had to decide for myself coz no doctor was 
willing to touch it.  In their eyes I was a head case in need of 
psychiatric drugs, just being deluded by the idea of something else 
causing my health problems.
I didn't think I had anything to lose by going ahead following my gut 
feelings, there wasn't much left of me anyway.
I had all my amalgams removed.  Was it professionally done??  Apart 
from the dam in mouth, and following the protocol of having it done 
in the shortest possible time  (1 quadrant per week),  I don't think 
all the guidelines I have been learning about in the last couple of 
years were attended to, including no chelation program.  Only advise 
I was given afterwards was to drink lots and lots of water.


For me, with my health worn down so much, I was so skinny that a 
description of bag of bones was appropriate, I was ready for a wheel 
chair.  Suffering severe depression, no appetite to speak of, 
insomnia, looking like death warmed up and feeling worse...lol

all this changed fairly soon after the amalgams were removed.
The best thing after my dentist worked on left lower quadrant, was 
that sight in my left eye which had returned over time minus the 
colour, improved almost overnight!!!  I had colour sight in right eye 
but it never restored fully in left eye after initially going blind 
in that eye.  Removal of the fillings on that quadrant restored most 
of it and returned to normal in the months following the 
removal.  Was it a filling pressing on a nerve in that section?  I 
will never know.
I do believe that a mercury poisoned system is unable to absorb 
nutrients properly which has a domino effect on every system within 
the body and culminating in total breakdown.


Further improvements in health  occurred. Appetite returned although 
never been abundant.  I looked a 'million' dollars  ... lol... people 
started commenting on how I looked, no longer greyish, sickly, but 
got colour back in my face.  I still had plenty of health issues to 
attend to which I contribute to the fact that the mercury poisoning 
had done a thorough job on my overall health and had shot my immune 
system.I had taken away the source of continuous poisoning but 
with no chelation program in place , not taken care of the damaging 
mercury which had settled in tissue.  And even after 18 years I am 
still  dealing with some of it.
My diet changed dramatically too as a result.  Multiple allergy 
testing (in 1986)brought out that  I was allergic to just about 
anything that others took for granted.  Most I have overcome through 
mercury removal. Dairy is one I will always have to put up with, bit 
tough on 

Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread cking001
On 2/17/2006 7:55:40 PM, Robert Berger (bober...@swbell.net) wrote:
 When are you people going to stop this dental mercruy nonesense ?
 
 Find another subject.
 
 Ole Bob :-(

OK!
How about Ole Bob's spelling?

What is  mercruy  nonesense?

Chuck
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 it has a light side
 and a dark side
 and it holds the universe together.



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Deborah Gerard


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:  On 2/17/2006 7:55:40 PM, Robert Berger 
(bober...@swbell.net) wrote:
 When are you people going to stop this dental mercruy nonesense ?
 
 Find another subject.
 
 Ole Bob :-(

OK!
How about Ole Bob's spelling?

What is  mercruy  nonesense?

Chuck
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it has a light side
and a dark side
and it holds the universe together.



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread Craig C Chamberlin



Jim writes:

Teflon condoms next. 



Craig replies:


Why not, we already had a teflon president* big grin *



Several, in fact! But we *won't* go there, right guys??!!!

grin


Nope, we won't.  Something always goes nuclear :)


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Re: CSRE: Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-17 Thread V
Hi Jim,

Your right I was thinknig Duct tape. the grey stuff. My mistake




Take care,
 V


 V,  

 I think you will find that claim to be made with Duct tape, not masking
 tape.  The formula for the adhesive is quite different between the two. 

 -Original Message-
 From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:57 PM
 To: Carol Ann
 Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CSdental mercury



 You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the
 silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

 Also warts are killed by masknig tape.


 Take care,
  V


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Ode Coyote

At 05:24 PM 2/15/2006 -0800, you wrote:

I had a dentist that is convinced too that mercury is deadly...check out 
mercury and what type of toxin it is..I believe it is one of the most 
toxic known to man...and you might ask yourself this why is it a bio 
hazard truck has to come and take the removed mercury from a dentist...it 
can't go into the landfills..because it is poison



 ## ALL medical waste is treated as a bio-hazard..not that Mercury 'isn't' 
poison.

'Is' that the snot rags and Q tips go the same way.
Not to the land fill.

Ode



Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was 
over dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one 
of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being 
determental to health.


M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
De! borah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?..

Pat wrote:
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No
extractions or root canals, thankfully.

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined ! process, from the sound
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread M. G. Devour
Yep, Wendy, the Huggins protocol is extensive, detailed, and, 
apparently, it's all necessary to minimize your risk of complications.

My whole life already promises to be one big complication as it stands, 
so I'm content to take the risk. grin

Be well!

Mike D.

 http://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=Hug_TV
 snip
 Actual studies in our office have shown that 63% of those people having
 amalgams etc removed at random ended up in worse condition health-wise
 than prior to dental revision. Of those patients treated by our
 Multi-Disciplined Alliance who had body chemistry as well as dental
 revision, the creation of new disease was zero.  Chemical Relativity is
 fascinating to those who behold the body as an entire interlocking
 interdependent biochemical mechanism. This course of at least 2 years,
 and perhaps more, is dedicated to those who want to know more than just
 removing amalgams and hoping. end snip
 
 Wendy
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] 
 Sent: February 15, 2006 8:16 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
 
 Mike as long as they dam off your throat and you go thru some kind of
 chelation afterwords you will be fine...deb
 
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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Wendy
http://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=Hug_TV
snip
Actual studies in our office have shown that 63% of those people having
amalgams etc removed at random ended up in worse condition health-wise
than prior to dental revision. Of those patients treated by our
Multi-Disciplined Alliance who had body chemistry as well as dental
revision, the creation of new disease was zero.  Chemical Relativity is
fascinating to those who behold the body as an entire interlocking
interdependent biochemical mechanism. This course of at least 2 years,
and perhaps more, is dedicated to those who want to know more than just
removing amalgams and hoping. 
end snip
 
Wendy
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: February 15, 2006 8:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
 
Mike as long as they dam off your throat and you go thru some kind of
chelation afterwords you will be fine...deb

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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread William Missett
I had my amalgam fillings removed in the late '80s, after reading a book by a 
dentist warning that the mercury fillings were toxic. (He subsequently lost his 
dental license, because the ADA is/was in full denial on the subject, since it 
has known since the 1840s that mercury would kill you.)

At the time, I knew I was supposed to have a sophisticated treatment procedure, 
but since my Rancho Santa Fe dentist wanted $175 per filling,  I declined and 
went to Tijuana, where a Mexican dentist used part of required removal process 
for his and my protection -- a dental dam for me and a powerful fan to blow 
away the toxic fumes from him and I.  I had about 7-8 mercury fillings removed 
over two weekends -- uppers one week and lowers the next.  I had them all 
removed for what my US dentist wanted to charge for one tooth.

I never had  any negative reaction to this procedure, even though I know it was 
less than state of the art.  I was one of those who should have been very 
susceptible to the mercury fumes, since I had experienced intense, prolonged 
exposure to mercury as a teenager.

I think the warnings about removal are overblown, to prevent the practice from 
becoming universal, and to allow US dentists to charge more for the service.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wendy 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:44 AM
  Subject: RE: CSdental mercury


  http://www.drhuggins.com/default.asp?PageName=Hug_TV

  snip

  Actual studies in our office have shown that 63% of those people having 
amalgams etc removed at random ended up in worse condition health-wise than 
prior to dental revision. Of those patients treated by our Multi-Disciplined 
Alliance who had body chemistry as well as dental revision, the creation of 
new disease was zero.  Chemical Relativity is fascinating to those who behold 
the body as an entire interlocking interdependent biochemical mechanism. This 
course of at least 2 years, and perhaps more, is dedicated to those who want to 
know more than just removing amalgams and hoping. 

  end snip

   

  Wendy

   

   

   

  -Original Message-
  From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@sbcglobal.net] 
  Sent: February 15, 2006 8:16 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSdental mercury

   

  Mike as long as they dam off your throat and you go thru some kind of 
chelation afterwords you will be fine...deb

  M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: 

  Dear Carol Ann, Susan, Terry, Jason,



   


Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread M. G. Devour
Worthy caution, Debbie. I've heard about the body's dumping stored 
toxins... probably in the Huggins materials as well as in Cutler's book 
that I bought last year. I will need to study some more.

Be well,

Mike D.

 I shudder every time I see the amalgam issue talked
 about and people dont bother to join an amalgam
 specific list and learn more. I've read alot and still
 have my amalgams
   The point is, each person is different. The main
 problem does not have to be exposure from removal, it
 is that the body has learned to live being exposed to
 merc. After removal, there is a time frame after which
 the body realizes it is no longer being poisoned and
 then the body will start dumping the body stores of
 mercury from all over. That is where many people that
 think they were better start getting much worse, and
 this can take you all the way down with no way back
 for some. My case has the added down side that I have
 dysbiosis(leaky gut) and that is a definate problem
 for dealing with body stores. Just check it out before
 you go too far too fast. Hope I said it all correctly.
 
 
 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Carol Ann
Mike, Jonathan,
The look that was passed between the two students did not go unnoticed by 
me.g   I suspect that a large majority of the population they encounter are 
not well read or remotely informed about such matters. And as Doctors, who is 
the average citizen to question their wisdom and education?   To prove this 
just ask anyone in your age bracket who has Mercury fillings, not inclined 
towards alternative healing, whether they have ever heard about the controversy.

I also find that many publications like Consumer Reports, Readers Digest will 
often republish the same old, same old material until something extradionary 
and scientifically proven presents to  offset  long standing status quo, and 
then the words may or it is 'thought  will be used throughout the articles 
instead of more definitive  terms like so and so has proven, will.  No one 
likes to be the first to go out on a limb, especially if its something that 
will have a unstabilizing, hurt profits effect on a long standing economic 
system.

The vaccine issues are a great example although I cannot understand the  
accepted idiocy of it all..what is considered hazardous material, what 
cannot be taken to the local dump was cheerily deposited with the human body as 
acceptable?  What does that say

I truly believe the med system is continually cultivating  future customer 
bases and clientele through the use of practices that have been well 
established as being dangerous.

Best regards,
Carol Ann

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: Consumer Reports, a 
magazine I respect, reported some years ago that 
the evidence of amalgam risk is inconclusive, and that there is no 
reason to be seriously worried about amalgam.

I respectfully think that they were seriously wrong in their analysis, 
but Carol Ann is right that some researchers believe as CR does.


On Thursday, Feb 16, 2006, at 00:48 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 Mike,
 To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation 
 was over dramatized and overblown.� I met two 4th yr� dental students 
 from one of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of 
 Mercury being determental to health.��



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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Carol Ann
Jim
Enough of these toxins have gone out the doors and off the shelves  for several 
years nowenugh to ensure the existing doctors, and ensuing generations of 
doctors, a steady supply of patients.

Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: Yes, and they also say 
vaccines are safe and aspartame is harmless. 
   
  -Original Message-
 From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
   
  Mike,
 To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   
 
 M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
  Deborah writes:
  I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
  your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
  illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
  time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 
 
 Pat wrote: 
  Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
  several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
  dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.
 
 I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
 hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
 metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
 extractions or root canals, thankfully. 
 
 I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
 somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
 mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
 of everything I've read so far.
 
 You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
 a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
 eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
 about CS at the time so I'd never need to.
 
 Be well,
 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - 
From: William Missett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury


I had my amalgam fillings removed in the late '80s, after reading a book by a 
dentist warning that the mercury fillings were toxic. (He subsequently lost his 
dental license, because the ADA is/was in full denial on the subject, since it 
has known since the 1840s that mercury would kill you.)

At the time, I knew I was supposed to have a sophisticated treatment procedure, 
but since my Rancho Santa Fe dentist wanted $175 per filling,  I declined and 
went to Tijuana, where a Mexican dentist used part of required removal process 
for his and my protection -- a dental dam for me and a powerful fan to blow 
away the toxic fumes from him and I.  I had about 7-8 mercury fillings removed 
over two weekends -- uppers one week and lowers the next.  I had them all 
removed for what my US dentist wanted to charge for one tooth.

I never had  any negative reaction to this procedure, even though I know it was 
less than state of the art.  I was one of those who should have been very 
susceptible to the mercury fumes, since I had experienced intense, prolonged 
exposure to mercury as a teenager.

I think the warnings about removal are overblown, to prevent the practice from 
becoming universal, and to allow US dentists to charge more for the service.  


William,
I'm glad you had a good experience.

Mercury removal expertise varies widely. So does a negative reaction to 
mercury. Some people can handle it better than others. So for people who really 
need their fillings removed, it's important to have it done properly. 

Nenah

Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I shudder every time I see the amalgam issue talked
about and people dont bother to join an amalgam
specific list and learn more. I've read alot and still
have my amalgams
  The point is, each person is different. The main
problem does not have to be exposure from removal, it
is that the body has learned to live being exposed to
merc. After removal, there is a time frame after which
the body realizes it is no longer being poisoned and
then the body will start dumping the body stores of
mercury from all over. That is where many people that
think they were better start getting much worse, and
this can take you all the way down with no way back
for some. My case has the added down side that I have
dysbiosis(leaky gut) and that is a definate problem
for dealing with body stores. Just check it out before
you go too far too fast. Hope I said it all correctly.
   


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Carol Ann
   And if Aspartame and Vaccines and dental Mercury aren't enough...
Even with such evidence, products with these chemical compounds have been given 
the go ahead to remain on the market - mfgers have  to the year 2015 to find a 
suitable alternative.  

http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11291
 
 Teflon chemical found in infants   Hopkins researchers are studying toxin's 
effects on newborns Feb  6, 2006 | Tom Pelton | www.sun-sentinel.com
Researchers at Johns Hopkins Hospital drew blood from the umbilical cords 
of 300 newborns and discovered something that would be deeply unnerving to many 
parents: Ninety-nine percent of the babies were born with trace levels of an 
industrial chemical - suspected as a possible cancer-causing agent - that is 
used in the manufacture of Teflon pans, computer chips, cell phones and dozens 
of other consumer products.
 
 Now Dr. Lynn Goldman, Rolf Halden and their colleagues at the Johns Hopkins 
Bloomberg School of Public Health are working with other scientists to 
determine whether the toxic chemical has harmed the infants, possibly by 
interfering with their thyroid glands and hormone levels.
 
 Previous studies, some funded by industry, have found perfluorooctanoic acid, 
or PFOA, in the bloodstream of most Americans. But the Hopkins study, supported 
by the federal and state governments, is the largest independent research 
project to examine the compound's effects on newborns, who may be more 
vulnerable to endocrine-disrupting chemicals.
 
 It's very clear that PFOA is being released into the environment, and it's 
pretty much ubiquitous, Goldman said. But we don't know if it's toxic to 
people at these levels.
 
 DuPont, which manufactures Teflon and has used the chemical for more than 50 
years, says there is no evidence that PFOA is harmful to humans.
 
 The chemical does have an effect on animals that are fed high doses of it. 
But animals respond differently to PFOA than people, and there is no evidence 
that there are any health effects in people, said David Boothe, a DuPont 
manager.
 
 The Hopkins study comes as the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is working 
with industry to try to reduce PFOA emissions into the environment.
 
 The EPA announced last month that DuPont has voluntarily agreed to reduce its 
use of the chemical, although not eliminate it, and take more steps to halt 
emissions from its plants. In December, the company agreed to pay a $10.25 
million civil penalty - the largest ever levied by the EPA - for withholding 
information about the potential health and environmental impacts of the 
compound.

  
  
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Re: CSdental mercury -Teflon cont references

2006-02-16 Thread Carol Ann
An EPA scientific advisory panel released a draft report in the spring that 
said the chemical has caused tumors when fed to rats and is a likely 
carcinogen in humans. But the same panel said last week that more research 
needs to be completed before the EPA concludes whether PFOA causes cancer.

It's a mystery right now, said Dr. Frank Witter, medical director of labor 
and delivery at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and a partner in the 
research. At some point, with more research, we may be able to say something 
more than 'it's just there.' But we have not finished that analysis yet.

PFOA is a highly durable, man-made chemical used since the 1950s in the 
manufacture of Teflon nonstick pans, rain-repellent clothing, aerospace 
equipment, computer chips, cables, automobile fuel hoses and numerous other 
products.

We make a lot of chemicals that are extremely persistent, and we mass-produce 
them, but we never consider the life cycles of these chemicals, Halden said. 
It's kind of a tragedy. In some instances, it takes years or decades before we 
learn of their toxicity to people.

The research project at Hopkins began in late 2004. Over five months, Goldman 
and her colleagues collected blood samples from the umbilical cords of 300 
newborns. The researchers used an instrument called a liquid chromatography 
mass spectrometer to analyze the blood, and they found that 298 of the samples 
contained PFOA, Goldman said.

Now the scientists are working with other researchers at the U.S. Centers for 
Disease Control and Prevention and a commercial lab to further scrutinize the 
samples and find out whether the babies' thyroid hormone levels are normal, 
Halden said. The researchers are also comparing PFOA levels to the birth weight 
of the babies, and looking at whether they were born full term. The study 
should be finished in a few months and then will be offered for publication in 
a scientific journal, Halden said.

It's not clear how PFOA gets into the environment and, eventually, into 
people's bloodstream. The chemical can be found in many places around the 
planet and has even been detected in polar bears.

Researchers with the Washington-based Environmental Working Group, a watchdog 
organization, believe the chemical may be released through the breakdown of 
fast-food packaging and stain-proof carpets, furniture and clothes, ending up 
in food, house dust, air and drinking water.

But Susan Hazen, an EPA acting assistant administrator, said this is 
speculation. We have no evidence at this time that routine use of consumer 
products is a source of exposure, Hazen said.

DuPont agreed last year to pay a settlement of more than $100 million after 
residents living near a company Teflon plant in Parkersburg, W.Va., filed a 
class action suit claiming that PFOA escaped from the factory and contaminated 
local waters.

Boothe, the DuPont manager, said PFOA clearly had leaked from the Parkersburg 
plant. But he said there are probably quite a few other sources of the 
chemical's escape into the environment.

He said DuPont is working hard to stop all leakage of the chemical from 
factories. The firm has installed water discharge filters and air pollution 
control equipment at the Parkersburg plant and two others in Fayetteville, 
N.C., and Deepwater, N.J.

The EPA is working with the industry to find out what the sources of exposure 
are, Boothe said.

Jane Houlihan, vice president for research at the Environmental Working Group, 
is among critics who say PFOA is dangerous and should be banned. It is 
disturbing, she said, that the Hopkins researchers have found the chemical in 
newborns.

The fact that PFOA can cross the placenta from the mother to child is very 
troubling, given that this is a chemical that is broadly toxic and linked to 
birth defects in lab animals, she said. The time in the womb is a time of 
particular vulnerability to environmental chemicals.

See also: 
The program would reduce the use of PFOA by 95% by 2010. It would eliminate 
production of the chemical by 2015 at the  latest.

That's good, because it takes the body 10 years to eliminate PFOA from the body 
if there's no new exposure. And since the chemical is all over the earth, we're 
always getting new exposures. Stopping production means that we won't be 
exposed to increasing amounts of PFOA.


http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11239

  


  
  
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Deborah Gerard
I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called gastro doc's were going to 
send me to Mayo Clinc because they did not know what to do with me..I disagree 
that the body adapts to mercury if it would adapt then there would not be a 
progression in illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no longer have any 
bowel problems at all debbie

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Worthy caution, Debbie. I've heard 
about the body's dumping stored 
toxins... probably in the Huggins materials as well as in Cutler's book 
that I bought last year. I will need to study some more.

Be well,

Mike D.

 I shudder every time I see the amalgam issue talked
 about and people dont bother to join an amalgam
 specific list and learn more. I've read alot and still
 have my amalgams
 The point is, each person is different. The main
 problem does not have to be exposure from removal, it
 is that the body has learned to live being exposed to
 merc. After removal, there is a time frame after which
 the body realizes it is no longer being poisoned and
 then the body will start dumping the body stores of
 mercury from all over. That is where many people that
 think they were better start getting much worse, and
 this can take you all the way down with no way back
 for some. My case has the added down side that I have
 dysbiosis(leaky gut) and that is a definate problem
 for dealing with body stores. Just check it out before
 you go too far too fast. Hope I said it all correctly.
 
 
 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
I dont mean adapt, but it developes defenses to keep
you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut, the
obvious question that you did not answer.   

--- Deborah Gerard devorah...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
 gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
 because they did not know what to do with me..I
 disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it would
 adapt then there would not be a progression in
 illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no longer
 have any bowel problems at all debbie


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Deborah Gerard
good post Carol...I don't own anykind of these products and avoid putting my 
food in plastic as well...deb

Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:  And if Aspartame and Vaccines and 
dental Mercury aren't enough...
Even with such evidence, products with these chemical compounds have been given 
the go ahead to remain on the market - mfgers have  to the year 2015 to find a 
suitable alternative.  

http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/11291

  Teflon chemical found in infants  Hopkins researchers are studying toxin's 
effects on newborns  Feb 6, 2006 | Tom Pelton | www.sun-sentinel.com
Researchers at Johns Hopkins Hospital drew blood from the umbilical cords of 
300 newborns and discovered something that would be deeply unnerving to many 
parents: Ninety-nine percent of the babies were born with trace levels of an 
industrial chemical - suspected as a possible cancer-causing agent - that is 
used in the manufacture of Teflon pans, computer chips, cell phones and dozens 
of other consumer products.

Now Dr! . Lynn Goldman, Rolf Halden and their colleagues at the Johns Hopkins 
Bloomberg School of Public Health are working with other scientists to 
determine whether the toxic chemical has harmed the infants, possibly by 
interfering with their thyroid glands and hormone levels.

Previous studies, some funded by industry, have found perfluorooctanoic acid, 
or PFOA, in the bloodstream of most Americans. But the Hopkins study, supported 
by the federal and state governments, is the largest independent research 
project to examine the compound's effects on newborns, who may be more 
vulnerable to endocrine-disrupting chemicals.

It's very clear that PFOA is being released into the environment, and it's 
pretty much ubiquitous, Goldman said. But we don't know if it's toxic to 
people at these levels.

DuPont, which manufactures Teflon and has used the chemical for more than 50 
years, says there is no evidence that PFOA is harmful to humans.

The chemical does h! ave an effect on animals that are fed high doses of it. 
But animals respond differently to PFOA than people, and there is no evidence 
that there are any health effects in people, said David Boothe, a DuPont 
manager.

The Hopkins study comes as the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is working 
with industry to try to reduce PFOA emissions into the environment.

The EPA announced last month that DuPont has voluntarily agreed to reduce its 
use of the chemical, although not eliminate it, and take more steps to halt 
emissions from its plants. In December, the company agreed to pay a $10.25 
million civil penalty - the largest ever levied by the EPA - for withholding 
information about the potential health and environmental impacts of the 
compound.

  

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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?


JBB

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And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
and education? 



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Deborah Gerard
I don't recall that being the question...but I got rid of the mercury for 
starters...deb

Debbie Mcdonald bely...@sbcglobal.net wrote:  I dont mean adapt, but it 
developes defenses to keep
you alive longer. How did you cure your leaky gut, the
obvious question that you did not answer. 

--- Deborah Gerard wrote:

 I too had leaky gut at one time and the so called
 gastro doc's were going to send me to Mayo Clinc
 because they did not know what to do with me..I
 disagree that the body adapts to mercury if it would
 adapt then there would not be a progression in
 illnesses stemed from mercury toxcity...I no longer
 have any bowel problems at all debbie


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I had all my amalgams removed in Japan, at modest cost because I pay 
into the health care system.   There were no special precautions.   The 
amalgams were replaced with composites.   The results were very 
pleasing.  I had no unpleasant reactions from the amalgam removal, and 
have observed steady changes in my health since that time.   This is 
just an anecdote, and other patients might react differently, of course.



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I think the warnings about removal are overblown, to prevent the 
practice from becoming universal, and to allow US dentists to charge 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Probably DuPont's pledge is baloney.

In Japan, there has been for some years a great push to sell ordinary 
mens' clothing -- shirts, neckties, and such -- with Teflon coating, to 
prevent stains, you see.   One wonders whether the new non-stick 
neckties also release their miraculous coatings into the home 
environment.


What next?

JBB



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The EPA announced last month that DuPont has voluntarily agreed to 
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Deborah Gerard
good point obsorbed into skin maybe?

Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:  Probably DuPont's 
pledge is baloney.

In Japan, there has been for some years a great push to sell ordinary 
mens' clothing -- shirts, neckties, and such -- with Teflon coating, to 
prevent stains, you see. One wonders whether the new non-stick 
neckties also release their miraculous coatings into the home 
environment.

What next?

JBB



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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Carol Ann
Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They are skin 
growth that are caused by a VIRUS.   What is usually recommend is the 
following. 

Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of persistent 
warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ), burning 
(electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur especially 
in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja.  Excellent!!!  Should be 
kept in the medicine cabinet. 

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by treating 
the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve the virus. 

Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to. One of 
my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The Doctors wanted 
to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds on his arms, legs, 
torso. Imagine.

So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone.  Thjua has 
many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their Diplomas, hang 
it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book. 


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A fairly recent 
news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

JBB

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 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread V
Hi Jonathan,

I can imagine doctors are idiots.

http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm




Take care,
 V


 A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread V


You can also kill warts with colliodal silver and electricity by driving the 
silver ions into the wart with the positive pole of a battery.

Also warts are killed by masknig tape.


Take care,
 V


 Yes.  They are still perplexed and confused about simple warts.  They
 are skin growth that are caused by a VIRUS.   What is usually recommend is 
 the following.

 Stronger (prescription) medications may be required for removal of
 persistent warts. Surgical removal or removal by freezing (cryotherapy ),
 burning (electrocautery ), or laser treatment may be needed.

 There is a very effective, inexpensive remedy for warts that occur
 especially in children.  It is a homeopathic remedy called Thuja. 
 Excellent!!!  Should be kept in the medicine cabinet. 

 http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Thuj

 How can one logically eliminate growths caused by a systemic virus by
 treating the site locally and externally?   Burning does nothing to resolve 
 the virus.

 Not one case of warts went unresolved to those whom I recommended it to.
 One of my children had a severe case as a preschooler 15 yrs ago. The
 Doctors wanted to burn them off.  No #...@%% way. He must have had hundreds 
 on his arms, legs, torso. Imagine.

 So I did my own research.   In two weeks time, every wart was gone. 
 Thjua has many other uses as well.  At least 1/2 of the Doctors get their
 Diplomas, hang it on the wall, host Pharma reps and never open another book.


 Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: A fairly
 recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the 
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.   
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest 
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom 
 and education? 


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Great URL link, V, but as for your statement, well, there are some 
wonderful MDs out there too.


Y. Omura, MD is one of the white hats.   Reading his collected essays 
would be an education to anyone interested in cutting-edge medicine.   
The Nobel Prize Committee overlooked a good candidate I think.


And isn't the great Robert O. Becker also an MD?

And look at the list of first-rate MDs supporting the Life Extension 
Foundation.  These are some of the good ones.


Best to avoid blanket condemnations, methinks.

JBB


On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 13:54 Asia/Tokyo, V wrote:


Hi Jonathan,

I can imagine doctors are idiots.

http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm




Take care,
 V



A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the
USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.
They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest
protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?



JBB



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And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom
and education?




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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-16 Thread V
Hi Jonathan,

Yupp there are always good ones out there of every proffession. there are even 
some good politicians. 
And Im sure most doctors have good intentions and do what they think is right.




Take care,
 V


 Great URL link, V, but as for your statement, well, there are some 
 wonderful MDs out there too.

 Y. Omura, MD is one of the white hats.   Reading his collected essays 
 would be an education to anyone interested in cutting-edge medicine.   
 The Nobel Prize Committee overlooked a good candidate I think.

 And isn't the great Robert O. Becker also an MD?

 And look at the list of first-rate MDs supporting the Life Extension 
 Foundation.  These are some of the good ones.

 Best to avoid blanket condemnations, methinks.

 JBB


 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 13:54 Asia/Tokyo, V wrote:

 Hi Jonathan,

 I can imagine doctors are idiots.

 http://www.health-freedom.info/iatro/index.htm




 Take care,
  V


 A fairly recent news article claimed that about 50% of the MDs in the
 USA do not know that ulcers stem directly from helicobacter pylori.
 They do not treat their patients for the infection using the latest
 protocols.   50%.   Can you imagine?

 JBB

 On Friday, Feb 17, 2006, at 01:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:

 And as Doctors, who is the average citizen to question their wisdom
 and education?


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CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread M. G. Devour
Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote:  
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone.  I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss beneath them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully.  

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury/zeolite/detox

2006-02-15 Thread Jason E

Greetings, all:

I've worked with quite a few people who had severe problems after having 
amalgams removed ( even with the Huggins protocol ).


Those who were able to acquire a good internal healing clay, and a 
sufficent amount of sodium bentonite for bath use, all reported 
cessation of symptoms within a week:


http://www.eytonsearth.org/mercury-toxicity-bentonite-clay.php

This does not address, as Nenah pointed out, damage that has already 
occured to the central nervous system due to prolonged exposure. 
However, if one is able to successfully remove a problem that is a 
causal factor in illness, then the body can begin to heal.


In my opinion, Illite is a more powerful internal detox agent than 
Zeolite, and has a proven lab-tracked and tested effect with mercury 
toxicity.


However, the best illite, marketed by Argiletz in France, is very hard 
to find in the United States.  Further, some internet searches for 
Argiletz Illite bring you to a page where the clay being sold is 
Argiletz Montmorillonite ( which is a bright green, rather than a deep 
green ).


Zeolite is amazing.  However, zeolites vary so much in their 
composition, that when someone says:  It's zeolite, it is really 
nearly a meaningless term.


I have a friend with severe multiple toxicities, due to working with 
paints and industrial chemicals for most of his life ( which he still 
does about 10 hours a day ).  The only time the man makes any real sense 
at all with his thought processes, is after taking a clay bath.


Zeolite is on my long term study list.

I'm considering testing Bear River Zeolite:

http://www.usantimony.com/brz/uses.html

http://www.bearriverzeolite.com/Usage/agriculturaluses.html

My experience with working with clay quarries, and various clays has led 
 me to believe that any clay that works well for agricultural purposes 
and animals is excellent for human use.  When I go in and dig around, 
search out the old timers, I can usually find the stories that 
demostrate human use by indigenous cultures.


One could by a lifetime supply of Zeolite for internal use for under 
$200.00, provided one found the right zeolite to use.


Bear River has done an excellent job in testing their clay; the sorption 
properties, particle surface area, etc.  Of course, it is classified by 
the FDA as GRAS under 21 CFR Part 582.2729.


I never seen a need for exhorbant pricing with clay supplements. If a 
clay has to be processed and/or modified so much to justify a high price 
tag, than it's the wrong clay to use.


Best Regards,

Jason





M. G. Devour wrote:

Deborah writes:


I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 



Pat wrote:  


Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
several fillings redone.  I recently read that root canals are
dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss beneath them.



I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully.  

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.


You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.


Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Carol Ann
Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote:  
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone.  I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss beneath them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully.  

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Susan
Same here in NC. I think that they are taught in school to defend the practice 
because if they don't then they will get their butts sued to the maxIt is 
on my list!
   
  I recently had a full mouth xray at a low income clinic staffed by students 
and told them not to get near me with an hg. she said Why not? I say, 
because it is poison and no comment. Then while looking at the xrays she says 
you may not like mercury but porcelain does not show up well on xrays  go 
figure!  We are living in the dinosaur ages (or worse) where voluntary 
ignorance pays the bills.
   
  Love, light and health to all of us,
  Susan

Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Jim Holmes
Yes, and they also say vaccines are safe and aspartame is harmless. 

 

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Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was
over dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one
of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being
determental to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Carol Ann, Susan, Terry, Jason,

Carol Ann writes:
 To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was
 over dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from
 one of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury
 being determental to health.

That's true. It leaves us to make up our own minds what we're going to 
believe. I've met too many people out here who've seen significant 
improvement after amalgam removal to believe the story from the dental 
association any more. Usually their list of symptoms include at least a 
couple of those that annoy me the most... sinuses, lung congestion, 
tinnitus, low energy and depression.

As Terry points out, there are also people who have had problems, which 
puts me on the alert to try to do everything right and still be ready 
for some hard work, if necessary.

That's better, in my mind, than believing that I really need to 
supplement my diet with a stack of pharmaceuticals for the rest of my 
life. wry grin

Jason, I'm going to have to consult a little more with you before I get 
fully into the process. Thanks for your input.

Be well,

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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Deborah Gerard
I might add that I found a little bit cheaper way to chelate the mercury or 
anyother metal toxins out too if anyone is intersted it is the www.calcify.com 
protocol...debbie PS good for you Mike it is a road back but you are on your 
way my friend...deb

Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:  Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Deborah Gerard
Mike as long as they dam off your throat and you go thru some kind of chelation 
afterwords you will be fine...deb

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Dear Carol Ann, Susan, Terry, Jason,

Carol Ann writes:
 To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was
 over dramatized and overblown. I met two 4th yr dental students from
 one of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury
 being determental to health. 

That's true. It leaves us to make up our own minds what we're going to 
believe. I've met too many people out here who've seen significant 
improvement after amalgam removal to believe the story from the dental 
association any more. Usually their list of symptoms include at least a 
couple of those that annoy me the most... sinuses, lung congestion, 
tinnitus, low energy and depression.

As Terry points out, there are also people who have had problems, which 
puts me on the alert to try to do everything right and still be ready 
for some hard work, if necessary.

That's better, in my mind, than believing that I really need to 
supplement my diet with a stack of pharmaceuticals for the rest of my 
life. 

Jason, I'm going to have to consult a little more with you before I get 
fully into the process. Thanks for your input.

Be well,

Mike D.
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RE: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Deborah Gerard
Good point Jim...check out where autism comes from and what the name of the 
preservetives are that are used in the vaccines...always read the vile becore 
you let them inject you with anything...deb..better yet don't get injected

Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote:Yes, and they also say 
vaccines are safe and aspartame is harmless. 
   
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From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSdental mercury
   
  Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:
  Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Deborah Gerard
I don't fall for the so called need yearly mamogram etiher...I won't let them 
xray me unless it is totally neededdeb

Susan geoqu...@yahoo.com wrote:Same here in NC. I think that they are 
taught in school to defend the practice because if they don't then they will 
get their butts sued to the maxIt is on my list!
   
  I recently had a full mouth xray at a low income clinic staffed by students 
and told them not to get near me with an hg. she said Why not? I say, 
because it is poison and no comment. Then while looking at the xrays she says 
you may not like mercury but porcelain does not show up well on xrays  go 
figure!  We are living in the dinosaur ages (or worse) where voluntary 
ignorance pays the bills.
   
  Love, light and health to all of us,
  Susan

Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblow! n.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:   Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Deborah Gerard
I had a dentist that is convinced too that mercury is deadly...check out 
mercury and what type of toxin it is..I believe it is one of the most toxic 
known to man...and you might ask yourself this why is it a bio hazard truck has 
to come and take the removed mercury from a dentist...it can't go into the 
landfills..because it is poison

Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com wrote:  Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation was over 
dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students from one of the 
State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of Mercury being determental 
to health.   

M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:  Deborah writes:
 I wish you would look into how bad those fillings are you might change
 your mind I am in my fifties and I didn't starte having any chronic
 illnesses until I was in my fourties but it hit the fan big
 time...have you heard of the alkaline testing tape?.. 

Pat wrote: 
 Actually, I'd probably rather die than have to go through having
 several fillings redone. I recently read that root canals are
 dangerous too as far as infection and bone loss benea! th them.

I second what Deborah says. I'm only in my late forties and going down 
hill rapidly. Everything I try is handicapped by a suppressed 
metabolism and immune system. I have a mouth full of fillings. No 
extractions or root canals, thankfully. 

I'm planning a trip to the Huggins clinic to have them all replaced 
somewhere they actually know how to do it without exposing you to much 
mercury. It's a complicated and highly refined process, from the sound 
of everything I've read so far.

You're damned right I'm gonna get'em all re-done. I'm tired of hauling 
a boulder uphill just to stay even. I only wish I knew to spit in the 
eye of the first dentist who wanted to fill one of my teeth... and new 
about CS at the time so I'd never need to.

Be well,

Mike D.
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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Consumer Reports, a magazine I respect, reported some years ago that 
the evidence of amalgam risk is inconclusive, and that there is no 
reason to be seriously worried about amalgam.


I respectfully think that they were seriously wrong in their analysis, 
but Carol Ann is right that some researchers believe as CR does.



On Thursday, Feb 16, 2006, at 00:48 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:


Mike,
To this day, many Dentists will still say that the Mercury situation 
was over dramatized and overblown.  I met two 4th yr  dental students 
from one of the State Universities who poopahed any mention I made of 
Mercury being determental to health.  




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Re: CSdental mercury

2006-02-15 Thread Craig C Chamberlin
They also reported in their Health Edition, that silver supplements have 
absolutely no value...ta da.


Craig
Consumer Reports, a magazine I respect, reported some years ago that the 
evidence of amalgam risk is inconclusive, and that there is no reason to 
be seriously worried about amalgam.


I respectfully think that they were seriously wrong in their analysis, 
but Carol Ann is right that some researchers believe as CR does.



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