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Larry, I have never used Epicor and am very intrigued by it. I thought you needed to take it daily to avoid illness, but I didn't think it was helpful once you were ill. I'm glad to hear it helped you. Diane - Original Message - From: Larry Biggar To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:22 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Dear Marshall, Dorothy and Appreciated! I had a interesting challenge last weekend. I awoke coming down with horrible flu systems. Body ache hard breathing. So i took a couple of immune builders i had bought from VitaCost.com last Summer. One capsule of EpiCor #NSI3006991 and one of Immune Booster. I woke up a couple of hours later and the symptoms were gone! I could have gotten up to go to work! I've had a breathing problem for a few years. So, by this time i had made a batch of CS from Silver Puppy. Starting with a few sprays to 1oz in the morning now. I felt instant relief but continuing the silver. But only took the capsules only the one time. I've been really impressed with VitaCost and the Silver Puppy. By their professionalism, quality and prices! So check it out! Larry --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: Re: CSFLU To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:44 AM Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough. We have always taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but it doesn't just wipe it out. As there is no cure for colds I suppose if it did, we would all be millionaires! I have wiped out many a cold with EIS and sometimes Olive Leaf Extract. If you catch them early enough, and have a reasonably good immune system, it is quite easy to do. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2422 - Release Date: 10/08/09 06:39:00
Re: CSFLU
Re: CSFLUHi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
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No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
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Zeolite is mostly silicon. http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N *From*: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca *To*: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent*: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 *Subject*: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - *From:* Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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True, but only a few of the smallest zeolite particles enter the bloodstream. I am not sure how much silicon is bioavailable. If I were supplementing silicon I would take alfalfa, horsetail (plant) or sodium silicate. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU Zeolite is mostly silicon. http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N -- -- *From*: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca *To*: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent*: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 *Subject*: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - *From:* Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It is a trace mineral though so not a lot is needed. It enhances uptake and utilization of Calcium and Magnesium. I agree that for people herbal sources make more sense. Besides whole grains one of the best food sources for silicon is onions, particularly when eaten raw or lightly cooked. Definitely makes hair and fingernails grow stronger and faster. Equine studies done by U of Wisconsin used crushed zeolite and showed significant effects in two year Thoroughbreds in training and Broodmares and their foals, reduce injuries and faster recovery times. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: True, but only a few of the smallest zeolite particles enter the bloodstream. I am not sure how much silicon is bioavailable. If I were supplementing silicon I would take alfalfa, horsetail (plant) or sodium silicate. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU Zeolite is mostly silicon. http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N -- -- *From*: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca *To*: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent*: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 *Subject*: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - *From:* Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Guys, My hair was thinning fairly noticeably a couple of years ago and a few months of taking Naka silica gel from Hubner brought almost all of it back! Was I happy! It's great for skin and nails too! Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: RE: CSFLU True, but only a few of the smallest zeolite particles enter the bloodstream. I am not sure how much silicon is bioavailable. If I were supplementing silicon I would take alfalfa, horsetail (plant) or sodium silicate. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU Zeolite is mostly silicon. http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N -- -- *From*: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca *To*: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent*: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 *Subject*: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - *From:* Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Oh PLEASE share :) My hair has been thinning to the point that I have a bald spot right above my forehead...and for a lady it ain't too pretty! Where can I buy this...and would Zeolite be the same as I happen to have that on hand (and with the previous posts realize that it's mostly silica). I'd LOVE to have my real hair back Lisa -Original Message- From: Peter Converse [mailto:pconve...@primus.ca] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:27 PM To: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU Hi Guys, My hair was thinning fairly noticeably a couple of years ago and a few months of taking Naka silica gel from Hubner brought almost all of it back! Was I happy! It's great for skin and nails too! Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: RE: CSFLU True, but only a few of the smallest zeolite particles enter the bloodstream. I am not sure how much silicon is bioavailable. If I were supplementing silicon I would take alfalfa, horsetail (plant) or sodium silicate. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:gar...@grandecom.net] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU Zeolite is mostly silicon. http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: No silica gel. There may be some trace silica from the bentonite and zeolite I use. But the change happened soon after starting use of Lugol's. - Steve N -- -- *From*: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca *To*: Norton, Steve; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent*: Fri Oct 09 06:13:11 2009 *Subject*: Re: CSFLU Hi Steve, Are you also using silica gel by any chance? It will also have that effect in some people. Peter - Original Message - *From:* Norton, Steve mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:07 AM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Praps you didn't take enough...For most issues I make a 250-300ml batch in the morning and consume it IMMEDIATELY, then make another late in the evening and consume that IMMEDIATELY which hits it in a big way with high ionic silver content. Not getting involved with efficacy of ions over particles though...it's just what I do, haven't had a cold or flu since beginning my daily maintenance program but I'd do the same if I got the hint of a cold or flu without hesitation, and do it til resolution is evident before cutting back and reverting to normal stabilized EIS. Lung issues I'd breath a spray in as hard as possible to get it right in there. I've got the plans in place...all I need now is the bug but can't seem to catch it no matter how much I expose (bad word choice) myself to people with it, or the elementsg, praps one day. N. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 21:54:37 -0700 From: leslie3...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU To: silver-list@eskimo.com I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie From: Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 10:13:06 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upsetmy stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small
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Yes, One oz of CS ...one tsp of DMSO...I chug it. Gets the CS to places it can't otherwise get to. Chuck By Day, Enlighten; By Night, Endarken. On 10/8/2009 1:19:05 AM, Leslie (leslie1...@windstream.net) wrote: You mix the cs with DMSO and take internally?? Thanks, Lee )leslie3...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Nope, Plan is a daily ounce of CS with DMSO to keep it away, with Humbles MMS1 and MMS2 held in reserve. Chuck You go to heavenGod sneezes... What do you say? On 10/7/2009 10:06:30 PM, Trem (t...@silvergen.com) wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug. So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the n No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00
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Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough. We have always taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but it doesn't just wipe it out. As there is no cure for colds I suppose if it did, we would all be millionaires! I don't know what the MO is for coughs so if I did, I suppose it would explain why CS doesn't stop it. One thing, proteolytic enzymes are supposed to be a good thing to stop viruses, because they eat the protein coating that viruses wrap around themselves to stop the immune system from attacking them. dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 05:54, Leslie wrote: I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
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Nope, nor last year or the year before. Year before that, maybe twice and lasted for a couple of days and never got very bad...no biggie. I did get an eye infection [staph] that I got CS to, too late, last summer. CS slowed it down, but didn't quite do the job. Wound up with a 31 tooth toothache on a weekend and bleeding sinuseswas seriously considering the 12 gauge cure for a while there if I hadn't had some leftover opiates I didn't use before then. Penicillin knocked off what was left. Ode At 07:06 PM 10/7/2009 -0700, you wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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HARUUUCHIMA or maybe DIHAATZU. But not Gebaleshu. Ode Chuck You go to heavenGod sneezes... What do you say? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Trem, If inclined, you may have an environmental house inspector in your area who can run some tests to investigate the possible mold issue and its severity. Some of the worst molds, I have read, are not as visible as we'd expect but can cause severe health problems from A to Z which can go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed for years if not addressed at the root by a physician with a background in this area. Hopefully, this is not the situation in your case. Here's one doc claiming to have a handle on this issue: http://www.personalconsultcart.com/webdocs/Items/Details13.cfm I read some stats on Dr. Mercola's site a while back which seemed to support the opinion that flu shots are ineffective in preventing influenza. I also wonder if, from what I've read, that they may actually cause more illnesses than they prevent in the long run. *A possible research project which might interest you when the right time arises is making some Lypospheric EIS by following Brooks' recipe for Lypo-C and subsituting EIS for all the DW used and leaving out the vitamin C. This project could be combined with another involving nebulized EIS.* Boosting the immune system with Immutol, for instance, or mushroom extracts may be another area of research to consider. Supplementing with L-Lysine and Vitamin C, selenium, zinc, Vit. A, Vit. E, Vit. D, B Vitamins and reduced glutathione in Lypo form or with its precusor amino acids avavilable through undenatured whey protein are more possibilities. Increasing consumption of antioxidants other than those already mentioned is another idea. Good old garlic and ginger need to be remembered too. Allimax products are another possibility. These are a few research ideas to consider, as stated, and are not medical advice. Please consult your physician for diagnosing and treating medical conditions and for any medical advice you may need. Peter p.s. I have picked up flu bugs this year but my research in eradicating them was useful to me. Greater prevention is my next area of research. - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: CSFLU I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
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Hi Leslie, Nebulizing and drinking CS helped me last spring with the pneumonia research I did. Lypo-CS is another possibility for research. A solution of 50% each of CS/3%H2o2 put in ears till bubbling stops while laying on side is another thing people have done in their research. Another idea...A neti pot or other method of getting salt water into sinuses such as putting the face into a big basin of warm salted water. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/ http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/IodineResearch/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/hypothyroidism/ Peter - Original Message - From: Leslie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie -- From: Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 10:13:06 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement
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The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
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Steve, I use Lugol's ( still the old 10%) and put 5 drops IN my EIS 2 oz. as a mouthwash and gargle every morning. The first little bit I spit out, the rest of it gets drunk. This keeps me cold and flu free, assists with a persistant cough I developed years ago as well as keeps my rotten gums from being problematic.Not seen any change in the gray tho, that is amazing. zoe Norton, Steve wrote: The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
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No one in my family, me, my wife, daughter and husband, her 3 children or my son. All are taking D3, and if it feels like something coming on, EIS ( CS ). That includes both flu and colds. Marshall Trem wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough. We have always taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but it doesn't just wipe it out. As there is no cure for colds I suppose if it did, we would all be millionaires! I have wiped out many a cold with EIS and sometimes Olive Leaf Extract. If you catch them early enough, and have a reasonably good immune system, it is quite easy to do. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Marshall, Dorothy and Appreciated! I had a interesting challenge last weekend. I awoke coming down with horrible flu systems. Body ache hard breathing. So i took a couple of immune builders i had bought from VitaCost.com last Summer. One capsule of EpiCor #NSI3006991 and one of Immune Booster. I woke up a couple of hours later and the symptoms were gone! I could have gotten up to go to work! I've had a breathing problem for a few years. So, by this time i had made a batch of CS from Silver Puppy. Starting with a few sprays to 1oz in the morning now. I felt instant relief but continuing the silver. But only took the capsules only the one time. I've been really impressed with VitaCost and the Silver Puppy. By their professionalism, quality and prices! So check it out! Larry --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: Re: CSFLU To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:44 AM Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Unfortunately CS doesn't seem to deal with the cough. We have always taken it here when we have picked up colds or viruses from other people, and it does lessen the symptoms and shorten the duration, but it doesn't just wipe it out. As there is no cure for colds I suppose if it did, we would all be millionaires! I have wiped out many a cold with EIS and sometimes Olive Leaf Extract. If you catch them early enough, and have a reasonably good immune system, it is quite easy to do. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have ordered some arabinogalactan (immune booster) from iHerb Larry, and I already have some beta-glucan as I have been a bit low lately. I do not like Vitacost because it took weeks for them to get my order to me (UK) but always have good results from iHerb. dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 19:22, Larry Biggar wrote: Dear Marshall, Dorothy and Appreciated! I had a interesting challenge last weekend. I awoke coming down with horrible flu systems. Body ache hard breathing. So i took a couple of immune builders i had bought from VitaCost.com last Summer. One capsule of EpiCor #NSI3006991 and one of Immune Booster. I woke up a couple of hours later and the symptoms were gone! I could have gotten up to go to work! I've had a breathing problem for a few years. So, by this time i had made a batch of CS from Silver Puppy. Starting with a few sprays to 1oz in the morning now. I felt instant relief but continuing the silver. But only took the capsules only the one time. I've been really impressed with VitaCost and the Silver Puppy. By their professionalism, quality and prices! So check it out! Larry
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I have not found CS alone to be enough to keep me from getting the flu or get me over it when I do get it. That is why I keep other flu remedies but also use my CS. I think it works great with DMSO in a nebulizer for lung stuff and is a good way to get it to the blood stream although you can't take in as much as you would be able to drink, it is going directly to the blood with a nebulizer. Orally I would mix it with at least 10% DMSO to achieve better tissue distribution. Coughing is a hallmark of H1N1, some run a high fever too although not all. Older people tend not to run as much of a fever. But some of them do. Pneumonia is what most people die from that get the flu. With H1N1 the reason more young people die is that they produce more cytokines which causes fluid in the lungs ~ in H1N1 they are warning about Cytokine Storms. Some amount of cytokines are good. My niece was taken to the hospital with it, she is 20, they kept her there five hours, on oxygen and sent her home with oxygen so she could breathe. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Leslie wrote: I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie *From:* Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wed, October 7, 2009 10:13:06 PM *Subject:* Re: CSFLU On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net mailto:slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com mailto:t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list
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Not me. Haven't had a flu of any kind for the past 7 or 8 years. That timing coincides with my starting to mist with EIS [CS] and also with stopping getting flu vaccinations. sol Trem wrote: Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Same here EIS(CS), raw garlic and Lugol's do the trick for me. zoe sol wrote: Not me. Haven't had a flu of any kind for the past 7 or 8 years. That timing coincides with my starting to mist with EIS [CS] and also with stopping getting flu vaccinations. sol Trem wrote: Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Trem, The problem with mold on sheetrock is that 1. the most extremely toxic variety of fungus is in the gypsum, and when there is a stain from wet sheetrock, it is fairly certain to be a bad variety. That would be stachy... and some people do not seem to be very affected by it. Some of us, though seem to be genetically lacking some enzyme or another that removes that type of toxin from the body, and it builds up, wreaking havok. So she could be affected and you not. Most house inspectors may not be very useful, as there are no good tests to prove a stachy colony unless you can see it and pick it up with some tape. Since it is anaerobic, it is often not in plain sight. In my house, it was on the other side of the tile in the shower stalls- the anaerobic side. It was completely hidden, and yet the toxins it was releasing nearly killed me. We did get it remediated, but not with the help of the experts- there is so much misinformation; and even well meaning people can have VERY incomplete info on what to do about it. It took us some trial and error before we had it beat. About the flu- I had some nasty awful flu last winter, the CS seemed to make it worse. My son 23, just got the flu, high fever, body aches, bad cough. He did a fair amount of cs and it did help. He was only on his back for one day, but was sick for about a week, + or -. Maybe 4 years ago I got a flu vaccine variation (a couple of drops under the skin of the forearm), but it was to see if my immune system was functioning or not from the mold exposure. But the doc said it would also confer immunity to that variety of flu for life. It was also not the thimerosol preserved one, his had to be in the fridge. The doc that was linked to in a previous post has done some good work in that area. I have not read his remediation book, though, maybe it came out after I was done. Best Wishes with all of it, Kathryn On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Trem wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
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I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
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My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Put a box fan in the basement so there is constant air circulation to dry out the sheetrock. You don't really know what is behind it if you have not looked. But if there is any at all on the front you need to control the humidity with moving air. Flu is peaking here in Texas. I have not had it and will not take the vaccine. I am taking D3 8,000 iu and Low Dose Naltrexone 0.5 mg. Have Olive Leaf, Coconut Oil, Elderberry Extract and Oregano Oil/ Extract Combo from Herb Pharm on hand. OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Also with the lung component I plan to nebulize DMSO 20% with EIS, DMSO is good at drying tissues out when there is excess fluid. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Nope, Plan is a daily ounce of CS with DMSO to keep it away, with Humbles MMS1 and MMS2 held in reserve. Chuck You go to heavenGod sneezes... What do you say? On 10/7/2009 10:06:30 PM, Trem (t...@silvergen.com) wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug. So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00
RE: CSFLU
Nope, in fact not since I started my daily consumption of EIS 4 years ago, I'll see what the next 4 years hold g. N. From: t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 19:06:30 -0700 Subject: CSFLU I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem _ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
Re: CSFLU
On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
Re: CSFLU
How many olive leaves are used to boil up when making tea? Is it like 1 teaspoon, etc? Is that any cheaper than getting a storebought extract? Dan On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug. So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU - DMSO Tintured OLE ~Doug?
I buy European Olive Leaf, this time I ordered from Starwest Botanicals, but I do not use US domestic Olive Leaves. I put two handfuls, maybe a packed cup of cut and sifted dry leaves into about four cups of water, boil and cover, simmer for five minutes and let sit for another five or ten, drink a cup and pour the rest up to sip on thoroughout the day if I am sick. And I add plenty of lemon and honey because it is some what bitter. But tolerable with the additions. Capsules and tablets made me a little nauseous. There are tinctures but I have never used them. DMSO tincture could be used topically or would probably kick a$$ orally. I think Doug uses 1 part water to 4 parts DMSO for a DMSO extraction, and probably lets it brew for at least two weeks. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Roger Barker wrote: On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net mailto:slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com mailto:t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I use a couple handfuls to about 4 cups of water. Boil five minutes. You want it strong if you are sick. Not sure if it is cheaper than tincture, I paid $12 a pound from Starwest Botanicals. I don't care for alcohol tinctures if I can make my own tea so I just keep the leaves on hand. I have taken up to 750 mg in capsules every hour or two with a really bad case of flu, I was delirious and had fever blisters on my mouth, the nerve to my eyes from my mouth was throbbing so I was not messing around. I did that for a day and then cut back to every three or four. Also took Lomatium St John's Wort compound from Herb Pharm. The OLE caps make my stomach hurt but if its all you can find then I guess you could make a tea from them however I don't know if it is the same so would probably just swallow the caps and do something to quell any nausea. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Dan Nave wrote: How many olive leaves are used to boil up when making tea? Is it like 1 teaspoon, etc? Is that any cheaper than getting a storebought extract? Dan On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upset my stomach. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie From: Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 10:13:06 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU On 8/10/2009, at 3:33 PM, Garnet wrote: OLE is one of the best remedies in my experience if taken in sufficient amounts. I prefer to boil up the leaves for 5 minutes and drink with lemon and honey, easier to digest that capsules which upsetmy stomach. Hi Garnet, do you just pick a cupful (?) or so of leaves straight from the tree? In answer to the subject matter - Flu. I had a bad dose of flu around ten years ago and as I also suffer from mild asthma it really knocked me for six. Took a good three weeks before I was up and about again. At this time I found out about colloidal silver (from a friend) and have never been without is since. In the years since during the winter months I've had cold symptoms a good few times but CS has always come to the rescue and by morning all has been well. There has been a couple of times when my symptoms lasted a couple of days and I was left wondering if I'd caught a flu bug and not just an ordinary cold. At no time did I have take any time off work but did feel a bit washed out in the evenings. We're just (hopefully) coming to the end of our winter down this a way and up until last Sunday I could have reported all the family had remained cold and flu free. The dreaded swine flu has been doing the rounds of the area so when I awoke Sunday morning with ' the symptoms' I got a little concerned. Have spent the last four days, including Sunday, treating myself with CS, increased iodine intake, MMS and Liposomal C. Can't say I would have taken time off work but was dammed glad I am retired so could take it easy. Appetite was affected as was sleep all topped of with head and body aches. Last night (Wednesday) I slept well and woke up feeling fine this morning. Drove into town for weekly shop and a coffee returning home early afternoon for lunch. It's now 4pm and I still feel tip top so hopefully it's all behind me now. All this leads up to the question - seeing as how CS is so good at dealing with colds and the flu etc just how is one to tell what one may have. When one has a cold and deals with it with CS how will we ever know if it was just a cold or something much worse? Anyone got any ideas? Best wishes to all, Roger B NZ P.S. I should maybe add that I've not had any sort of flu shot despite my doctors suggestion that I really should being an asthmatic. slickpic...@cox.net wrote: My son (14) is in his 5th day of the flu. Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote: = I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug. So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
Re: CSFLU
You mix the cs with DMSO and take internally?? Thanks, Lee )leslie3...@yahoo.com - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Nope, Plan is a daily ounce of CS with DMSO to keep it away, with Humbles MMS1 and MMS2 held in reserve. Chuck You go to heavenGod sneezes... What do you say? On 10/7/2009 10:06:30 PM, Trem (t...@silvergen.com) wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug. So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSflu
one of the messages on the DMSO group had a link to a web site that I thought had some great information about home remedies for the swine flu. I never knew anything about the cytokin storms that some additives can produce in the body until recently. Since these storms can be as deadly as the flu itself it is a good thing to know. http://akamine2525.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/swine-flu-home-remedies/ _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
CSflu vaccinations
I can't help it if people think this is conspiracy stuff. I hate to think you are going to find out the hard way that it is ALL very real, the forced vaccinations are not far off. We all have our own arsenal at home to beat the flu one way or another. Too many are unaware though that the vaccinations are going to mandatory and they are not something you can beat with your own home remedies. The series of video clips I passed on earlier this week were meant to give the information of what is in them, what has been happening and basically an urgent call to support Jane Burgemeister who has filed a criminal lawsuit against the W.H.O. , Baxter, Obama and others for the plans of forced vaccinations with intent of genocide. Here is a link to an interview between Rima Laibow/Stubblebine and Alex Jones, from the 3 hr. 8 minute mark onwards. This was held July 16th. Please if you have time and listen to the interview. Fastforward to 3.08 hr after downloading. No matter how difficult it might be to listen to any of the people... do it for your own safety. http://rss.nfowars.net/20090716_Thu_Alex.mp3 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090716-1, 16/07/2009 Tested on: 17/07/2009 6:41:49 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFlu Vaccine puts kids at risk
In case someone wants a link to this article I have found it in the link below. http://www.newsmax.com/health/flu_vaccine_kids_risk/2009/05/22/217227.html Louise -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFlu Vaccine puts kids at risk *1. Flu Vaccine Puts Kids at Risk* Flu vaccine does not help children stricken with influenza stay out of the hospital, but instead, increases their risk of being hospitalized, compared with those who have not had shots, according to a new study. In fact, the risk triples, according to the study at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. The new study aimed at evaluating the effectiveness of the flu vaccine (trivalent inactivated flu vaccine, or TIV) in children, especially asthmatic children, study leader Avni Joshi, M.D., told Science Daily. The relative benefit of the vaccine is of paramount importance in light of the recommendation of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the American Academy of Pediatrics to vaccinate all children between 6 months and 18 years every year, a recommendation that the National Asthma Education and Prevention Program endorses. The Mayo Clinic study spanned eight consecutive flu seasons and involved 263 children ages 6 months to 18 years. All of the children had laboratory-confirmed influenza between 1996 and 2006. Researchers verified which children had or had not received the vaccine, which were asthmatics, and which had to be hospitalized with flu-related illnesses. The study showed that children who had been vaccinated had three times the risk of hospitalization of children who had not been vaccinated. Asthmatic children who received the vaccine had a significantly higher risk of being hospitalized than asthmatic children who had not received it. No other factors, such as the severity of asthma, appeared to have an effect on the risk of being hospitalized. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlu and resistance
Just caught a news blip on way out of house this morning. They said new Flu was missing an Amino Acid same as some other Flu we have had before, they Said this may mean some have a resistance to the new Flu. I looked but have seen nothing further yet. Bob
Re: CSFlu and resistance
It is very well possible that this swine-avian-human flu is a race-specific biological-weapon. In their own documents for the Project for the New American Century, they talk about developing and utilizing race-specific bio-weapons, because they are able to engineer viruses to be able to target any specific genotype that they could ever possibly imagine. Now do you realize what a portion of the Human Genome Project was to be about ? It should all be starting to make sense now. The Secretary Of Homeland Security Janet Nepolitano recently said that this wave of flu might fizzle-out and the re-surface later and be much more potent and deadly. That is such a chilling statement to make, and I personally believe that the flying of a copy of Air Force One directly over the Statue Of Liberty and then through the buildingz over Manhattan was Occult symbolism, which is basically flaunting their mighty-power in front of us for all to see, and essentially to say, Ha ha ha, we are still here controlling your mindz, and you don't even really know it yet. What is happening right now is a biological 9/11. They carryed-out this operation that was extremely reminiscent of 9/11 right as all of this flu-pandemic stuff is goin on, so it'z like they were saying we are doing it once again to all of you. Notice how they termed it a Photo-Opp, well that soundz very close to PsyOpp, which means Psychological-Operation, which the CIA and government used as operations to test the mindz of the public and to also control the mindz of the public. You all should research this stuff cuz it is very fascinating and will add to your knowledge and understanding of many many thingz. - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: CSFlu and resistance Just caught a news blip on way out of house this morning. They said new Flu was missing an Amino Acid same as some other Flu we have had before, they Said this may mean some have a resistance to the new Flu. I looked but have seen nothing further yet. Bob
Re: CSFlu and resistance
I thought that it was meant to say that it was not likely to be as virulent as bird flu but maybe I did not get it right. - Kathryn On May 1, 2009, at 6:31 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Just caught a news blip on way out of house this morning. They said new Flu was missing an Amino Acid same as some other Flu we have had before, they Said this may mean some have a resistance to the new Flu. I looked but have seen nothing further yet. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFlu and resistance
From what I have been able to gather and read, you are right on target with this. But is was a warning to Obama as well, that they have control of his plane and could do away with him any time they want. Marshall Aaron M. Robinson wrote: It is very well possible that this swine-avian-human flu is a race-specific biological-weapon. In their own documents for the Project for the New American Century, they talk about developing and utilizing race-specific bio-weapons, because they are able to engineer viruses to be able to target any specific genotype that they could ever possibly imagine. Now do you realize what a portion of the Human Genome Project was to be about ? It should all be starting to make sense now. The Secretary Of Homeland Security Janet Nepolitano recently said that this wave of flu might fizzle-out and the re-surface later and be much more potent and deadly. That is such a chilling statement to make, and I personally believe that the flying of a copy of Air Force One directly over the Statue Of Liberty and then through the buildingz over Manhattan was Occult symbolism, which is basically flaunting their mighty-power in front of us for all to see, and essentially to say, Ha ha ha, we are still here controlling your mindz, and you don't even really know it yet. What is happening right now is a biological 9/11. They carryed-out this operation that was extremely reminiscent of 9/11 right as all of this flu-pandemic stuff is goin on, so it'z like they were saying we are doing it once again to all of you. Notice how they termed it a Photo-Opp, well that soundz very close to PsyOpp, which means Psychological-Operation, which the CIA and government used as operations to test the mindz of the public and to also control the mindz of the public. You all should research this stuff cuz it is very fascinating and will add to your knowledge and understanding of many many thingz. - Original Message - *From:* Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2009 7:31 AM *Subject:* CSFlu and resistance Just caught a news blip on way out of house this morning. They said new Flu was missing an Amino Acid same as some other Flu we have had before, they Said this may mean some have a resistance to the new Flu. I looked but have seen nothing further yet. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFlu and resistance
Well we should be clear that Obama was not on that plane, because it was only a replica of Air Force One, because they have like at least 3 Air Force Ones, but President Barack Hussein Obama was not on that plane, although maybe he was if he lied about it. Also, we should all recognize the fact that Hollywood most definitely uses PsyOpps in their films and television-shows, like in March 2001 when FOX aired their pilot-episode of The Lone Gunmen which involved conspiracy-theory people discovering a plot by their own American-Government to stage an attack with an airliner, and they discover later while they are flying aboard that very plane that it is headed for the World Trade Center. Before they make that flight though, the Senior conspiracy-theory guy tells his own Junior son the precise reasons for why the government would need to execute this horrific scheme. I bet alot of you on this list did not know this show existed, cuz I never knew anything about there being a show chillingly depicting 9/11 before the event actually hapened in reality. That really should wake people up to the fact that the government is most definitely involved in the take-over of the United States and subsequently of the Earth. But make no mistake about it, it isn't the whole entire government, cuz just like this TV-show said, There you go, indicting the entire government as usual. It's a faction, a small faction. This is why people generally can't grasp our own government being behing 9/11 cuz they think that the whole entire government would have had to have known about it and been in on the whole thing. See the clip of this episode, along with a clip of The Simpsons that seems to portray 9/11 as well, first aired in September 1997, and re-boradcasted in 2001 before 9/11, see it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCX4dEqD9E I have the whole entire episode along with all of the other episodes of the first and only season that they had produced. Aaron - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance From what I have been able to gather and read, you are right on target with this. But is was a warning to Obama as well, that they have control of his plane and could do away with him any time they want. Marshall Aaron M. Robinson wrote: It is very well possible that this swine-avian-human flu is a race-specific biological-weapon. In their own documents for the Project for the New American Century, they talk about developing and utilizing race-specific bio-weapons, because they are able to engineer viruses to be able to target any specific genotype that they could ever possibly imagine. Now do you realize what a portion of the Human Genome Project was to be about ? It should all be starting to make sense now. The Secretary Of Homeland Security Janet Nepolitano recently said that this wave of flu might fizzle-out and the re-surface later and be much more potent and deadly. That is such a chilling statement to make, and I personally believe that the flying of a copy of Air Force One directly over the Statue Of Liberty and then through the buildingz over Manhattan was Occult symbolism, which is basically flaunting their mighty-power in front of us for all to see, and essentially to say, Ha ha ha, we are still here controlling your mindz, and you don't even really know it yet. What is happening right now is a biological 9/11. They carryed-out this operation that was extremely reminiscent of 9/11 right as all of this flu-pandemic stuff is goin on, so it'z like they were saying we are doing it once again to all of you. Notice how they termed it a Photo-Opp, well that soundz very close to PsyOpp, which means Psychological-Operation, which the CIA and government used as operations to test the mindz of the public and to also control the mindz of the public. You all should research this stuff cuz it is very fascinating and will add to your knowledge and understanding of many many thingz. - Original Message - *From:* Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2009 7:31 AM *Subject:* CSFlu and resistance Just caught a news blip on way out of house this morning. They said new Flu was missing an Amino Acid same as some other Flu we have had before, they Said this may mean some have a resistance to the new Flu. I looked but have seen nothing further yet. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev
Re: CSFlu and resistance
Aaron, Why, may I ask, are you posting messages to this list that requires a Receipt' of Notification? Just curious as this is highly unusual. Maybe you don't know that you can turn this feature off. Maybe you do. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Aaron M. Robinson Date: 5/1/2009 9:36:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance Well we should be clear that Obama was not on that plane, because it was only a replica of Air Force One, because they have like at least 3 Air Force Ones, but President Barack Hussein Obama was not on that plane, although maybe he was if he lied about it.
Re: CSFlu and resistance
Hey S-Max, no I do indeed know about the Receipt Of Notificationz, alot of people use them to be able to now when their messages have been read, and I can only have it either on or off, I can't pre-select whom I want to use it for and whom not to use it for. The receipts are not required at all, you can just simply click on No, or you can change your settings to always accept them automatically or to always decline them automatically. What do you think of any of the messages I have posted thus far ? This is really very important stuff. Aaron - Original Message - From: sms To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance Aaron, Why, may I ask, are you posting messages to this list that requires a 'Receipt' of Notification? Just curious as this is highly unusual. Maybe you don't know that you can turn this feature off. Maybe you do. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: Aaron M. Robinson Date: 5/1/2009 9:36:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance Well we should be clear that Obama was not on that plane, because it was only a replica of Air Force One, because they have like at least 3 Air Force Ones, but President Barack Hussein Obama was not on that plane, although maybe he was if he lied about it.
RE: CSFlu and resistance
Also before 9 11 that was a video game company working on a game that would have a plane crashing into the twin towers. They quickly abandoned that when it really happened!!! Louise -Original Message- From: Aaron M. Robinson [mailto:muzicsoulworl...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance snip and been in on the whole thing. See the clip of this episode, along with a clip of The Simpsons that seems to portray 9/11 as well, first aired in September 1997, and re-boradcasted in 2001 before 9/11, see it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCX4dEqD9E I have the whole entire episode along with all of the other episodes of the first and only season that they had produced. Aaron -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFlu and resistance
Interesting video link, Aaron. I hadn't seen either of those shows. There are a number of folks in the group who are very interested in these kinds of topics, but I ask any discussion of political topics, which would include things like 9/11 conspiracy ideas, be taken to the Silver Off-topic List. Politics, like religion, is a prohibited topic on the main list for the simple reason that it usually devolves almost instantly into flame wars and arguments, if given half a chance. If you visit www.silverlist.org and view the list rules, you'll see the scope and restrictions on topic for the main list explained, plus a link for the Off Topic List. Please let me know, folks, if anyone needs assistance with making proper use of the other silver list. Thank you! Mike Devour silver-list owner Also before 9 11 that was a video game company working on a game that would have a plane crashing into the twin towers. They quickly abandoned that when it really happened!!! Louise -Original Message- From: Aaron M. Robinson [mailto:muzicsoulworl...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFlu and resistance snip and been in on the whole thing. See the clip of this episode, along with a clip of The Simpsons that seems to portray 9/11 as well, first aired in September 1997, and re-boradcasted in 2001 before 9/11, see it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCX4dEqD9E I have the whole entire episode along with all of the other episodes of the first and only season that they had produced. Aaron [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlu commentary
From an unusual source but interesting: http://tinyurl.com/d3wzar Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFlu and martial law
http://www.infowars.com/swine-flu-and-martial-law/
Re: CSflu- dianne
Thanks Dianne, it is not fun. Rest seems to be helping as much as anything. I have a question for you about gallium- I am unaware of it's use as a healing modality. I have some laying around, but it is in a liquid form (last time I checked, anyway). I though it had the potential for being unhealthy. Could you tell me more info about it, please? Kathryn On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Dianne France wrote: Kathryn We both got exposed to the flu on Christmas Day gathering. Such a nice present. We both came down with it and then seemed to get better. Didn't last long and mine came back with a vengence. Lots of congetion in the chest and head. I was using silver and gallium to treat. Think it got close to pneumonia. My chest has finally cleared but still have the head congestion/snotty nose. It could be the weather that we aren't used to here in the south. The silver didn't seem to hit this one for us either. Just waiting for warm weather to get outside and bake it out. If you find something that works please share. Dianne To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: clay...@skypoint.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:19:40 -0600 Subject: CSflu Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas? -kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSflu- dianne
Gallium Heel combats stubborn viral infections. Gallium speeds recovery from illness. Use Gallim-Heel for relief of exhaustion, and weakness due to infection. Gallium-Heel strengthens the immune system. Gallium-Heel is deep acting and a strong homeopathic defense against cold and flu. The BHI / HEEL April 2002 Newsletter says this about Galium Heel: Galium Heel supports and activates the defense mechanism of the body and is helpful for patients with year round allergies. Galium Heel has important drainage remedies such as:Betula Alba and Galium Aparine that detoxify and cleanse the body. Urtica is helpful for rheumatic pains and eczema. Apis Mel reduces edema and cleanses at the connective tissue level of the body. Safe for all ages. Suggested dose 10 drops 3 times a day until fully recovered.Heel/BHI product. Mix and match 2 or more BHI products for $1 discount off each bottle. Enjoy a return to health and energy without any side effects or drowsiness. Gallium Heel is also known as Galium, or Gallium-Heel. http://www.elixirs.com/products.cfm?productcode=BH141 I was told to use this product and cs the first time I went to see the tech that does our biomeredian reports. That was my first introduction to both a couple years ago. We like the Heel products and also use Zeel and Traumeel (sublingual) for arthritis and pain. I had stopped both my silver and gallium (liquid) because I felt they were at a stand still. Am going to start back on them. We both have been sick this winter. I don't know if the chemtrails have anything to do with it but there have been a bunch. I'm not sure what to think of them at this time. Hope this helps. Dianne From: clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSflu- dianne Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:49:59 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks Dianne, it is not fun. Rest seems to be helping as much as anything. I have a question for you about gallium- I am unaware of it's use as a healing modality. I have some laying around, but it is in a liquid form (last time I checked, anyway). I though it had the potential for being unhealthy. Could you tell me more info about it, please? Kathryn
Re: CSflu
The kill rate has to be faster than the replication rate. A reduction in severity and duration is the best that can happen...but you don't know how severe it would have been had you not. Any damage done still has to be repaired the garbage taken out and all. How much garbage? ..compared to what? Ode At 10:19 AM 2/6/2009 -0600, you wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date: 2/6/2009 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - gallium?
Wouldn't that much MMS used by someone who's not used to using it make someone really sick? Had you been using it on a regular basis before you did that? Pat From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40:03 PM Subject: Re: CSflu - gallium? Kathryn, MMS (chlorine dioxide) has worked for me. It takes about two days to get over the bug better than 5 - 10. I took 4 drops 4 times a day for two days. Go to mmsdr.com for more info. Good luck. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - gallium?
Pat, I had no side effects whatsoever. It is recommended you start with two drops, but when you're sick that can change. - Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:50 AM Subject: Re: CSflu - gallium? Wouldn't that much MMS used by someone who's not used to using it make someone really sick? Had you been using it on a regular basis before you did that? Pat From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40:03 PM Subject: Re: CSflu - gallium? Kathryn, MMS (chlorine dioxide) has worked for me. It takes about two days to get over the bug better than 5 - 10. I took 4 drops 4 times a day for two days. Go to mmsdr.com for more info. Good luck. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSflu
Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu
My warchest includes: 1 CS (works best when taken as a preventive BEFORE exposure, as a prophylactic). Take in large quantities (glassful) if trying to get rid of something. 2 Hydrogen peroxide in the ear (eyedropperful, 3%(three) drugstore variety) for 5 minutes each ear. 3 MMS (activated or not activated) Nothing has ever stood up to these. Chuck Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function On 2/6/2009 11:19:40 AM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 02/04/09 16:35:00
CSflu, What are all the Symptoms ?
Evening Kathryn, At 10:19 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote: Ok, I got the flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. What are all the symptoms ? I really do not know. If I ever had the flu, it was so long ago, I do not remember the event. Of course I have had some bugs, infections, or whatever that I usually picked up our working in the infected world. Usually my CS would completely eliminate them in 5 or 6 hours, 24 hours at most. Some of these may have been the flu but did not have time to create the aces and other symptoms. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu
thanks Chuck, I'll get out the peroxide... On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:23 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: My warchest includes: 1 CS (works best when taken as a preventive BEFORE exposure, as a prophylactic). Take in large quantities (glassful) if trying to get rid of something. 2 Hydrogen peroxide in the ear (eyedropperful, 3%(three) drugstore variety) for 5 minutes each ear. 3 MMS (activated or not activated) Nothing has ever stood up to these. Chuck Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function On 2/6/2009 11:19:40 AM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu, What are all the Symptoms ?
Hi Wayne, It started with a general feeling of malaise on Sat, and I started upping my silver intake to a glassful. The next am, I took another shotglassful, had some breakfast, then was hit with chills and fever for the next about 36 hours. Somewhere along the line it moves into the chest, though for me not bad. A few days ago the aches started- hips and low back, bad enough to wake me up at night for 2 days running. It has been 6 days. I am up and around for some hours today and yesterday, but back to resting afterwards. The fever has been gone for a couple of days, now I just have a small chest congestion and very achy back and hips. Same for me most of the time, the silver knocks it out straightaway, a day at the most. This is some bug. I remember others writing about this one, but could not find the info. I am wondering a bit if the silver may be a partial help, or maybe a hindrance. If this is a flu, and if it strikes worse on strong immune systems, and the silver creates a strong immune system, then maybe me wolfing down alot of silver water may have made it worse. It sure did not seem to do *any* good, but perhaps it did, hard to say. Maybe I should just take some aspirin and be patient. Thanks for asking, Kathryn On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Kathryn, At 10:19 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote: Ok, I got the flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. What are all the symptoms ? I really do not know. If I ever had the flu, it was so long ago, I do not remember the event. Of course I have had some bugs, infections, or whatever that I usually picked up our working in the infected world. Usually my CS would completely eliminate them in 5 or 6 hours, 24 hours at most. Some of these may have been the flu but did not have time to create the aces and other symptoms. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu, What are all the Symptoms ?
Over two weeks ago I had something that started with headache, sore throat, then waves of queasiness for a few hours the next a.m. Then it changed to a head cold with some chest congestion. For two days I felt like a train had run over me. I nebulized with colloidal silver a few times and I think that may be why my nose stuff was always totally clear. Every other cold I've ever had, it was green. My head never got as blocked off as it used to get when I didn't know about CS. But, the cold lasted at least a week, and I still cough a few times at night. My daughter in law got the same thing nine days later but she had a fever and barfed a couple times the first day. I just refuse to do that! lol I think colloidal silver has to help ; anything that can get rid of some of the germs would reduce the load on the body. Pat From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 4:09:39 PM Subject: Re: CSflu, What are all the Symptoms ? Hi Wayne, It started with a general feeling of malaise on Sat, and I started upping my silver intake to a glassful. The next am, I took another shotglassful, had some breakfast, then was hit with chills and fever for the next about 36 hours. Somewhere along the line it moves into the chest, though for me not bad. A few days ago the aches started- hips and low back, bad enough to wake me up at night for 2 days running. It has been 6 days. I am up and around for some hours today and yesterday, but back to resting afterwards. The fever has been gone for a couple of days, now I just have a small chest congestion and very achy back and hips. Same for me most of the time, the silver knocks it out straightaway, a day at the most. This is some bug. I remember others writing about this one, but could not find the info. I am wondering a bit if the silver may be a partial help, or maybe a hindrance. If this is a flu, and if it strikes worse on strong immune systems, and the silver creates a strong immune system, then maybe me wolfing down alot of silver water may have made it worse. It sure did not seem to do *any* good, but perhaps it did, hard to say. Maybe I should just take some aspirin and be patient. Thanks for asking, Kathryn On Feb 6, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Kathryn, At 10:19 AM 2/6/2009, you wrote: Ok, I got the flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. What are all the symptoms ? I really do not know. If I ever had the flu, it was so long ago, I do not remember the event. Of course I have had some bugs, infections, or whatever that I usually picked up our working in the infected world. Usually my CS would completely eliminate them in 5 or 6 hours, 24 hours at most. Some of these may have been the flu but did not have time to create the aces and other symptoms. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu
Hi, No ideas, but my response was the same; I've used CS for colds and flu for quite literally years, through raising kids to re-entering college and it always worked. This time, it didn't. Took me down over Christmas holidays, Yuck! Take care, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 10:19 -0600, Clayton Family wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - malcolm
thanks, then. How long before you were back to normal? On Feb 6, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Malcolm wrote: Hi, No ideas, but my response was the same; I've used CS for colds and flu for quite literally years, through raising kids to re-entering college and it always worked. This time, it didn't. Took me down over Christmas holidays, Yuck! Take care, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 10:19 -0600, Clayton Family wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSflu
Kathryn We both got exposed to the flu on Christmas Day gathering. Such a nice present. We both came down with it and then seemed to get better. Didn't last long and mine came back with a vengence. Lots of congetion in the chest and head. I was using silver and gallium to treat. Think it got close to pneumonia. My chest has finally cleared but still have the head congestion/snotty nose. It could be the weather that we aren't used to here in the south. The silver didn't seem to hit this one for us either. Just waiting for warm weather to get outside and bake it out. If you find something that works please share. Dianne To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: clay...@skypoint.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:19:40 -0600 Subject: CSflu Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas? -kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - gallium?
ok, I will be happy to say iif anything else works. I am trying to get good rest, eat well, and lightly, etc. Gallium? On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Dianne France wrote: Kathryn We both got exposed to the flu on Christmas Day gathering. Such a nice present. We both came down with it and then seemed to get better. Didn't last long and mine came back with a vengence. Lots of congetion in the chest and head. I was using silver and gallium to treat. Think it got close to pneumonia. My chest has finally cleared but still have the head congestion/snotty nose. It could be the weather that we aren't used to here in the south. The silver didn't seem to hit this one for us either. Just waiting for warm weather to get outside and bake it out. If you find something that works please share. Dianne To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: clay...@skypoint.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:19:40 -0600 Subject: CSflu Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - gallium?
Kathryn, MMS (chlorine dioxide) has worked for me. It takes about two days to get over the bug better than 5 - 10. I took 4 drops 4 times a day for two days. Go to mmsdr.com for more info. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: CSflu - gallium? ok, I will be happy to say iif anything else works. I am trying to get good rest, eat well, and lightly, etc. Gallium? On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Dianne France wrote: Kathryn We both got exposed to the flu on Christmas Day gathering. Such a nice present. We both came down with it and then seemed to get better. Didn't last long and mine came back with a vengence. Lots of congetion in the chest and head. I was using silver and gallium to treat. Think it got close to pneumonia. My chest has finally cleared but still have the head congestion/snotty nose. It could be the weather that we aren't used to here in the south. The silver didn't seem to hit this one for us either. Just waiting for warm weather to get outside and bake it out. If you find something that works please share. Dianne To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: clay...@skypoint.com Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:19:40 -0600 Subject: CSflu Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSflu - malcolm
Hi Kathryn, It was about two weeks, and tailed off, rather than finally I woke up one morning and realized it was over. It was about as bad as I've ever felt the flu; for the first three days I wondered if this was going to put me in the hospital. I still have phlegm from it, or perhaps another milder bug snuck in under cover and is still in there. There have been heavy chemtrails around here and in my worse moments I wondered if they were poisoning me. A few acquaintances got it too, and also were impressed with how vicious it was. Soo, Am I back to normal? Well, not quite but hardly still in its grip. Take care, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 19:40 -0600, Clayton Family wrote: thanks, then. How long before you were back to normal? On Feb 6, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Malcolm wrote: Hi, No ideas, but my response was the same; I've used CS for colds and flu for quite literally years, through raising kids to re-entering college and it always worked. This time, it didn't. Took me down over Christmas holidays, Yuck! Take care, Malcolm On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 10:19 -0600, Clayton Family wrote: Ok, I got the flu. I had been increasing my silver intake by jumps, but it still didn't seem to do anything to this flu. Funny, it has worked on everything else. It has been 6 days now, and I am still aching. Any ideas?-kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Very interesting. I don't have any MMS. I should get some. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Faith, It may, but in my experience it has not for me personally. I have used CS that I make myself which is 85% ionic and 15% particulate at 10ppm many times but it hasen't ever done much for an already started cold or flu. MMS on the other hand got rid of a cold in a day and a half and the flu in about the same amount of time. Bob - Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU Bob, won't CS do the same thing? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I have never personally had the 'flu, but have known many who have. Especially those who have the 'flu 'jab'! dee sol wrote: I prefer not to get colds and flu in the first place. So I use CS in ways that prevent aquiring them. Easy to prevent, difficult to get rid of once the virus has taken hold. So far I've not had the flu even once in the past 6 or 7 years (since I stopped getting flu shots and started using CS). sol -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU, A question- memories
I can remember being brought up out of the air raid shelter after the all clear siren went off, and my Uncle Frank had brought everyone tea. I can still remember the smell of the shelter, as it was the only time I ever went down it. We lived in the country and only one bomb ever dropped. It was 1945 and I was two. I can remember the names of my friends and the layout of the Wimpey camp where I lived, and I left there to move to London when I was six in 1949. dee Wayne Fugitt wrote: I asked this question before on some list. I got no answer. Possibly they thought I was kidding or trying to confuse the works. Honestly, I do not know. How do you feel if you have the flu? What are the symptoms and how can you know you have the flu ? Surely I would remember it if I ever had the flu. Once I was very, very sick. I had a high fever and was out of my head a few days. One genius doctor said I had a strep infection at that time. That was 47 years ago. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Bob, won't CS do the same thing? Faith G. - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU indi, I have found that MMS is quite effective against the flu as well as the common cold. Go to mmsdr.com for more info, but basically it's like taking a small amount of bleach (chlorine dioxide) to deactivate virus in the body. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:31:59 -0400 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Sorry you got the flu, and I'm afraid I have no flu suggestions as I rarely get that. I suspect avoiding flu shots may be why. Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. Oh yes, I have to. I use good quality yogurts (Brown Cow, Breakstone Farms),and sometimes I make my own. Also kefir is very good. But I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes the natural taste of yogurt (and tofu, too). Get well quickly, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
sigh yes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Crusher Now I remember why I seldom discuss my taglines. Now I must retro... Chuck Never volunteer--they'll send you to earth On 10/25/2008 11:43:51 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: LOL-- we were both wrong, how bout that, Chuck? On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:17 PM, sol wrote: Sorry, just have to correct that: Beverly Crusher was a doctor, the chief medical officer of the Enterprise. sol cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Wesley Crusher was the smart kid on Startrek Next Generation- son of the nurse Beverly Crusher No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1744 - Release Date: 10/24/2008 6:08 PM
Re: CSFLU, A question's Answer
The Flu (depending how bad it is: will feel a lot like food poison, you could have a chill, or a fever?, or both. You won't feel like eating much. You could be tired, and listless. U feel sick. My cure is: at 1st sign of food poison or the flu, is 6 drops of Lugol's Iodine, in a cup of water. (if your not allergic to Iodine.) pretty simple really. If what you have is the flu or food poison U should be better with in a few hours, 2 to 6 at least. If not take one more dose 6 drops in a cup of water, and if that does not work U have something even worse, see a DR. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote: From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com Subject: CSFLU, A question To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 11:50 PM I asked this question before on some list. I got no answer. Possibly they thought I was kidding or trying to confuse the works. Honestly, I do not know. How do you feel if you have the flu? What are the symptoms and how can you know you have the flu ? Surely I would remember it if I ever had the flu. Once I was very, very sick. I had a high fever and was out of my head a few days. One genius doctor said I had a strep infection at that time. That was 47 years ago. Maybe that is when I got the brain damage. Not sure. I spent the day yesterday with my sister that was born in 1929. I was telling her the neighbors names, describing houses, ect before I started to school, because we did not live in that area when I started school. I told her some of her old friends names, their husbands name, and which ones walked with a limp. All this had to happen when I was about 6 or 7 years old. And some less than 6 I asked here, did she know anything I ever forgot? I must have forgot something, but I do not remember what. Wayne All my tag lines are in my head. I wonder where Chuck keeps his ( I realize I do not have as many ) = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Faith, It may, but in my experience it has not for me personally. I have used CS that I make myself which is 85% ionic and 15% particulate at 10ppm many times but it hasen't ever done much for an already started cold or flu. MMS on the other hand got rid of a cold in a day and a half and the flu in about the same amount of time. Bob - Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU Bob, won't CS do the same thing? Faith G. - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU indi, I have found that MMS is quite effective against the flu as well as the common cold. Go to mmsdr.com for more info, but basically it's like taking a small amount of bleach (chlorine dioxide) to deactivate virus in the body. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:31:59 -0400 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Sorry you got the flu, and I'm afraid I have no flu suggestions as I rarely get that. I suspect avoiding flu shots may be why. Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. Oh yes, I have to. I use good quality yogurts (Brown Cow, Breakstone Farms),and sometimes I make my own. Also kefir is very good. But I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes the natural taste of yogurt (and tofu, too). Get well quickly, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
EPA/DHA fish oil is a powerful, broad-spectrum nutriceutical, claimed to be better than many pharmaceutical products by Y. Omura M.D. Available at modest cost from lef.org I consider this one of the absolute essentials for anyone's first line of defense. It's also good for heart and brain. On Friday, Oct 24, 2008, at 01:08 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Besides CS, you might try Oreganol and olive leaf extract. Bot very good on viruses. Ozonated water is good as well if you have a way to generate it. Marshall Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I prefer not to get colds and flu in the first place. So I use CS in ways that prevent aquiring them. Easy to prevent, difficult to get rid of once the virus has taken hold. So far I've not had the flu even once in the past 6 or 7 years (since I stopped getting flu shots and started using CS). sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFLU, Food Poisoning
Thanks very much, Tel, At 03:54 PM 10/26/2008, Tel Tofflemire wrote: The Flu (depending how bad it is: will feel a lot like food poison, you could have a chill, or a fever?, or both. You won't feel like eating much. You could be tired, and listless. U feel sick. I can understand that. I had food poisoning once. ( about 35 years ago ) Everyone needs it once. Even after I was sick I ate some more of the same food that caused it. Is that Double Food Poisoning? Not a good thing to do. More details later. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
On Oct 24, 2008, at 1:19 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Ha! Nice catch! Lotsa stuff going on on starships. It COULDA been what I said, though... Different reality at work. Or maybe it WAS what you said, in that other reality over there... got a good laugh out of this one though Kathryn Chuck VCR's exist to do our tv watching for us On 10/23/2008 10:38:08 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote: On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:15 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Chuck Mr. Wesley Crusher, would you please report to the airlock Wesley Crusher was the smart kid on Startrek Next Generation- son of the nurse Beverly Crusher -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
indi, I have found that MMS is quite effective against the flu as well as the common cold. Go to mmsdr.com for more info, but basically it's like taking a small amount of bleach (chlorine dioxide) to deactivate virus in the body. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:31:59 -0400 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Sorry you got the flu, and I'm afraid I have no flu suggestions as I rarely get that. I suspect avoiding flu shots may be why. Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. Oh yes, I have to. I use good quality yogurts (Brown Cow, Breakstone Farms),and sometimes I make my own. Also kefir is very good. But I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes the natural taste of yogurt (and tofu, too). Get well quickly, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Sorry, just have to correct that: Beverly Crusher was a doctor, the chief medical officer of the Enterprise. sol cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Wesley Crusher was the smart kid on Startrek Next Generation- son of the nurse Beverly Crusher -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
LOL-- we were both wrong, how bout that, Chuck? On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:17 PM, sol wrote: Sorry, just have to correct that: Beverly Crusher was a doctor, the chief medical officer of the Enterprise. sol cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Wesley Crusher was the smart kid on Startrek Next Generation- son of the nurse Beverly Crusher -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFLU, A question
I asked this question before on some list. I got no answer. Possibly they thought I was kidding or trying to confuse the works. Honestly, I do not know. How do you feel if you have the flu? What are the symptoms and how can you know you have the flu ? Surely I would remember it if I ever had the flu. Once I was very, very sick. I had a high fever and was out of my head a few days. One genius doctor said I had a strep infection at that time. That was 47 years ago. Maybe that is when I got the brain damage. Not sure. I spent the day yesterday with my sister that was born in 1929. I was telling her the neighbors names, describing houses, ect before I started to school, because we did not live in that area when I started school. I told her some of her old friends names, their husbands name, and which ones walked with a limp. All this had to happen when I was about 6 or 7 years old. And some less than 6 I asked here, did she know anything I ever forgot? I must have forgot something, but I do not remember what. Wayne All my tag lines are in my head. I wonder where Chuck keeps his ( I realize I do not have as many ) = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Yes, Dee suggested it and I sprayed cs in my nose about 3 times last night, and felt far better when I went to bed. Plus I used the hydrogen peroxide in ears. Amazing. I will do it again today. We are all grateful for this list, though I had better stop saying 'thank you' to everyone. I think I may be responsible for half of the emails yesterday (sorry Mike). Faith g. - Original Message - From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:09 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU This is what has worked for me and numerous others I've gotten to try it; snork it up 2 or 3 times per side, then do it again a couple more times, an hour or a little less apart. This is for respiratory flu of course, and/or colds. Take care, Malcolm On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 20:21 +0100, Dee wrote: Have you tried spraying CS up the nose, or nebulizing with it? I found that spraying up the nose works really well with 'flu. dee Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Faith Gagne wrote: I do not have a way to generate ozonated water. I probably do not know what it is, but I am drinking a lot of water anyway. I will probably be recovered from this flur before I can get any Oreganol or olive leaf extract. Would I take both? If I got some would they keep in the closet til next time I got the flu? thakns. Faith G. Ozonated water is produced by bubbling ozone through ice water. It is a method of oxygenation therapy. Both olive leaf and Oreganol will keep very well in the cabinet. Marshall - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Besides CS, you might try Oreganol and olive leaf extract. Bot very good on viruses. Ozonated water is good as well if you have a way to generate it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Faith Gagne wrote: Yes, I have regular 'food grade' hydrogen peroxide. Thanks. Faith g. Do NOT put 35% food grade in your ear! Dilute by 10:1 to bring it down to 3%. The regular 3% from the drug store is fine. Marshall - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Full strength of the drugstore kind (actually that's a 1 or 2% solution you get at the drug store). I know there are stronger varieties some people use to lighten their hair, don't use that! :) indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
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CSFLU
I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
From mercola yesterday, just in time Faith! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/21/avoid-flu-shots-vitamin-d-is-a-better-way.aspx Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:31:59 -0400 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Sorry you got the flu, and I'm afraid I have no flu suggestions as I rarely get that. I suspect avoiding flu shots may be why. Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. Oh yes, I have to. I use good quality yogurts (Brown Cow, Breakstone Farms),and sometimes I make my own. Also kefir is very good. But I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes the natural taste of yogurt (and tofu, too). Get well quickly, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Besides CS, you might try Oreganol and olive leaf extract. Bot very good on viruses. Ozonated water is good as well if you have a way to generate it. Marshall Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I take a pro-biotic supplement plus I have a declicious organic yogurt every morning with breakfast. But I will forego the milk products until I recover from this flu. This flu is vicious. I am now taking CS every half hour or every 15 minutes. I will have to try kefir sometime. Thanks for the good wishes. Faith G. - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
I do not have a way to generate ozonated water. I probably do not know what it is, but I am drinking a lot of water anyway. I will probably be recovered from this flur before I can get any Oreganol or olive leaf extract. Would I take both? If I got some would they keep in the closet til next time I got the flu? thakns. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Besides CS, you might try Oreganol and olive leaf extract. Bot very good on viruses. Ozonated water is good as well if you have a way to generate it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Have you tried spraying CS up the nose, or nebulizing with it? I found that spraying up the nose works really well with 'flu. dee Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:21:56 +0100 Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Have you tried spraying CS up the nose, or nebulizing with it? I found that spraying up the nose works really well with 'flu. dee Oh, that reminds me -- for colds and sore throat, I've had success with hydrogen peroxide in the ears. Just tilt your head and let it bubble in there for a few minutes on each side. Maybe it'll help with the flu, too. I'd forgotten all about it, as it's been a while. Cheers, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Well thank you Dee. I've done that with a stuffy nose, but I haven't tried it with the flu. I'll try that now. Thank you very much. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Have you tried spraying CS up the nose, or nebulizing with it? I found that spraying up the nose works really well with 'flu. dee Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. I took an ounce of CS an hour for about 9 hours, til I went to bed, but I got up sicker than ever this morning. I've taken about 4 ounces CS in as many hours this morning but I am not feeling much better. Any suggestions? Does anyone take a probiotic (acidophilus) in addition to CS? Faith G. -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Faith Gagne wrote: I came down with the Flu yesterday. not feeling much better. Any suggestions? You might check here = http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1154552#i Flu support forum = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=327 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Thanks indi. If the spraying my nose with CS doesn't help I'll try the hydrogen peroxide. Straight hydrogen peroxide? Faith G. - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:21:56 +0100 Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Have you tried spraying CS up the nose, or nebulizing with it? I found that spraying up the nose works really well with 'flu. dee Oh, that reminds me -- for colds and sore throat, I've had success with hydrogen peroxide in the ears. Just tilt your head and let it bubble in there for a few minutes on each side. Maybe it'll help with the flu, too. I'd forgotten all about it, as it's been a while. Cheers, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
You're very welcome. dee Faith Gagne wrote: Well thank you Dee. I've done that with a stuffy nose, but I haven't tried it with the flu. I'll try that now. Thank you very much. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Dear Faith, Just making double darn sure, here... You write: Yes, I have regular 'food grade' hydrogen peroxide. Thanks. Faith g Most of the food grade peroxide I've ever heard of is usually 35%, though I've seen some that's like 17%, too. That's WAY TOO STRONG and will seriously damage any skin or other tissues you put it on. Drug-store variety 3% peroxide is what you want to use, or stronger stuff PROPERLY DILUTED to no more than 3. Okay, please verify you are *not* going to put anything stronger than 3% in your ears, okay? whew! Be well, Mike D. - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: CSFLU Full strength of the drugstore kind (actually that's a 1 or 2% solution you get at the drug store). I know there are stronger varieties some people use to lighten their hair, don't use that! :) indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
RE: CSFLU
Check if you are overly acidic. This can cause your body to be hospitable for a virus. Dan -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFLU I take a pro-biotic supplement plus I have a declicious organic yogurt every morning with breakfast. But I will forego the milk products until I recover from this flu. This flu is vicious. I am now taking CS every half hour or every 15 minutes. I will have to try kefir sometime. Thanks for the good wishes. Faith G. - Original Message - From: indi indi.sha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: CSFLU -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com