Re: CS>washing jars...Part 2?
Live and let live... Dan On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Neville Munn wrote: > Hi Dan, generalisation from all material collected, no disrespect intended > here, but of course you knew that, I know. > > I like the 'outpost' bit though, is that something like 'F Troup'?...I wanna > enlist! Love being on the fringe, it's where all the action and rebellion > is. There's a clown in every class isn't there? > > Enjoyed that last bit too, think I prefer 'live' though . > > N. > >> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:57:33 -0600 >> Subject: Re: CS>washing jars...Part 2? >> From: bhangcha...@gmail.com >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Neville, >> >> This is not a herd. It is a very small outpost on the fringe of society... >> >> Dan >> >> >> PS Do you realize that "evil" is your middle name, or rather that >> "evil" is in the middle of your name?... >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Neville Munn >> wrote: >> > >> > In the hope all this goes through...to be sure, to be sure, here is >> > Part 2 >> > >> > >> > Cont: >> > >> > I don't aim for colours, well...sometimes praps, when I want something >> > else >> > for a particular purpose, but I guess I should have stated my other >> > 'cornerstone'...No observable mud or 'gravel' laying in the bottom of my >> > storage vessels after days/weeks or months in storage, that's the MOST >> > critical thing for me. I've read about size of capillaries in the body, >> > blood brain barrier, size of particles which will pass through the gut >> > lining, maximum size a particle should be to be classified as a colloid >> > etc >> > etc and all that type stuff and I'm satisfied that what I produce is >> > 100% OK >> > for bioavailability, regardless of colour...well, to a point of course, >> > I >> > may be a tad racist I guess as black is OUT . I've used a dark tea >> > coloured (reddish?) solution for tonsilitis and glandular issues in the >> > past. It's all a matter of GUESSING what amount, what uS/ppm level, and >> > how >> > long treatment should be continued...colour relatively irrellivant. >> > >> > Sometimes people just have to make some deliberations of their own...I'm >> > one >> > of those, I don't run with the herd, unless I can see that they're >> > heading >> > to greener pastures. >> > >> > N. >> > >> > >> > If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Shopping Trolley Mechanic >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> > > > If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Shopping Trolley Mechanic
RE: CS>washing jars...Part 2?
Hi Dan, generalisation from all material collected, no disrespect intended here, but of course you knew that, I know. I like the 'outpost' bit though, is that something like 'F Troup'?...I wanna enlist! Love being on the fringe, it's where all the action and rebellion is. There's a clown in every class isn't there? Enjoyed that last bit too, think I prefer 'live' though . N. > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:57:33 -0600 > Subject: Re: CS>washing jars...Part 2? > From: bhangcha...@gmail.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Neville, > > This is not a herd. It is a very small outpost on the fringe of society... > > Dan > > > PS Do you realize that "evil" is your middle name, or rather that > "evil" is in the middle of your name?... > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Neville Munn wrote: > > > > In the hope all this goes through...to be sure, to be sure, here is Part 2 > > > > > > Cont: > > > > I don't aim for colours, well...sometimes praps, when I want something else > > for a particular purpose, but I guess I should have stated my other > > 'cornerstone'...No observable mud or 'gravel' laying in the bottom of my > > storage vessels after days/weeks or months in storage, that's the MOST > > critical thing for me. I've read about size of capillaries in the body, > > blood brain barrier, size of particles which will pass through the gut > > lining, maximum size a particle should be to be classified as a colloid etc > > etc and all that type stuff and I'm satisfied that what I produce is 100% OK > > for bioavailability, regardless of colour...well, to a point of course, I > > may be a tad racist I guess as black is OUT . I've used a dark tea > > coloured (reddish?) solution for tonsilitis and glandular issues in the > > past. It's all a matter of GUESSING what amount, what uS/ppm level, and how > > long treatment should be continued...colour relatively irrellivant. > > > > Sometimes people just have to make some deliberations of their own...I'm one > > of those, I don't run with the herd, unless I can see that they're heading > > to greener pastures. > > > > N. > > > > > > If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Shopping Trolley Mechanic > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
Re: CS>washing jars...Part 2?
Neville, This is not a herd. It is a very small outpost on the fringe of society... Dan PS Do you realize that "evil" is your middle name, or rather that "evil" is in the middle of your name?... On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Neville Munn wrote: > > In the hope all this goes through...to be sure, to be sure, here is Part 2 > > > Cont: > > I don't aim for colours, well...sometimes praps, when I want something else > for a particular purpose, but I guess I should have stated my other > 'cornerstone'...No observable mud or 'gravel' laying in the bottom of my > storage vessels after days/weeks or months in storage, that's the MOST > critical thing for me. I've read about size of capillaries in the body, > blood brain barrier, size of particles which will pass through the gut > lining, maximum size a particle should be to be classified as a colloid etc > etc and all that type stuff and I'm satisfied that what I produce is 100% OK > for bioavailability, regardless of colour...well, to a point of course, I > may be a tad racist I guess as black is OUT . I've used a dark tea > coloured (reddish?) solution for tonsilitis and glandular issues in the > past. It's all a matter of GUESSING what amount, what uS/ppm level, and how > long treatment should be continued...colour relatively irrellivant. > > Sometimes people just have to make some deliberations of their own...I'm one > of those, I don't run with the herd, unless I can see that they're heading > to greener pastures. > > N. > > > If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK Shopping Trolley Mechanic -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>washing jars?
I'll use Dawn detergent and well water on a first run used jar, rinse with copious amounts of well water and several times with DW to eliminate any potential mineral spots. Once I get a jar that works well...and most do...I only rinse with DW. [if that] Generally, I just cap it tight so it won't dry. Keeps the bug and dust out as well. Ode At 10:04 AM 1/15/2010 -0500, you wrote: When I wash dishes with chlorinated water, it takes an inordinate amount of scrubbing. Most dishes/cups come out of the dishwasher still stained with chlorinated water. But when I'm at a house that has well water, dishes get clean just by soaking in water. So I would assume well water and soap can be used to clean glass sufficiently for silver water storage. Jess -Original Message- From: Beth Harrison [mailto:bethharri...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>washing jars?
Some, over a long time...but it's all silver stuff. Rinse it with dab of distilled water [DW] after each use and the black mold looking stuff won't build up. [Dried silver ions make black silver oxide crud..it isn't mold.] Any yellowish deposits can be removed instantly with some H2O2 and a quick DW rinse. Rather than using a filter, let the CS settle for a few days and decant. Works much better than any filter you can buy outside a lab supply house. Save the dregs for topical application. Ode At 05:51 AM 1/15/2010 -0800, you wrote: I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curious...thanks Deb From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:24:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. From: Beth Harrison -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>washing jars?
You bet! ;-) MA From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 9:33:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi MA, No we were talking a long time ago about how it affects the process because of the build-up, which at the time someone said it is hard to get it offbut no problem I wll just clean out the jars after a couple of times...thanks my dear, Debbie
Re: CS>washing jars?
Hi MA, No we were talking a long time ago about how it affects the process because of the build-up, which at the time someone said it is hard to get it offbut no problem I wll just clean out the jars after a couple of times...thanks my dear, Debbie From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 8:48:10 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi Deb. Just found this message, this morning. Yes -- there is a little bit of a build-up, over time. It isn't a lot, and it isn't a problem. And it can be wiped off with a paper towel and the jar is perfectly clean again. Is that what you mean? MA From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo..com I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curious...thanks Deb
Re: CS>washing jars?
Hi Deb. Just found this message, this morning. Yes -- there is a little bit of a build-up, over time. It isn't a lot, and it isn't a problem. And it can be wiped off with a paper towel and the jar is perfectly clean again. Is that what you mean? MA From: Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curiousthanks Deb
RE: CS>washing jars...part 1?
Oops, done it again! No worries. N. > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:18:24 -0700 > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com > Subject: RE: CS>washing jars...part 1? > > At 04:07 PM 1/15/2010, you wrote: > >Hi Sol, Yep, that's fine, I wasn't suggesting there is anything > >wrong with clear, which I'm sure you knew anyway. Praps I should > >have gone further, I think it's well recognised me and this email > >thing aren't the best of friends as a communication medium . > > > > I was actually trying to agree with you, LOL. > sol > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
RE: CS>washing jars...part 1?
At 04:07 PM 1/15/2010, you wrote: Hi Sol, Yep, that's fine, I wasn't suggesting there is anything wrong with clear, which I'm sure you knew anyway. Praps I should have gone further, I think it's well recognised me and this email thing aren't the best of friends as a communication medium . I was actually trying to agree with you, LOL. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>washing jars?
no you put it in the gel dispenser for the after rinse! Donna ACS It sounds like you have to open the dishwasher at the beginning of the rinse cycle to accomplish this -- I'm not always around when it's running. Any ideas on how to get it all in there before starting it Lisa -Original Message- From: Donna [mailto:dscroggs44...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? can also be used in dishwasher! you will need: Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda 20 Mule Team Borax Distilled White Vinegar Add one tablespoon of Super Washing Soda to the dishwasher dispenser** Add one tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax to the dishwasher dispenser you can just put this in the water if washing by hand. Now for your rinse: . Now the recipe for removing the water spots and any residue that so frequently occur with automatic dishwashers and hand washing Pourdistilled white vinegar into the dispenser for the clear rinse gel. or in a sinkful of rinse water. This is my recipe I use all the time. Very inexpensive compared to buying other products. Donna ACS Speaking of which -- does anybody have a good "natural" safe recipe to make dish washing detergent so it won't leave any residue on dishes that we eat from? Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Most dish washing detergent has anti spotting agents that gets left behind. Ode At 10:11 PM 1/14/2010 -0600, you wrote: Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>washing jars...Part 2?
In the hope all this goes through...to be sure, to be sure, here is Part 2 Cont: I don't aim for colours, well...sometimes praps, when I want something else for a particular purpose, but I guess I should have stated my other 'cornerstone'...No observable mud or 'gravel' laying in the bottom of my storage vessels after days/weeks or months in storage, that's the MOST critical thing for me. I've read about size of capillaries in the body, blood brain barrier, size of particles which will pass through the gut lining, maximum size a particle should be to be classified as a colloid etc etc and all that type stuff and I'm satisfied that what I produce is 100% OK for bioavailability, regardless of colour...well, to a point of course, I may be a tad racist I guess as black is OUT . I've used a dark tea coloured (reddish?) solution for tonsilitis and glandular issues in the past. It's all a matter of GUESSING what amount, what uS/ppm level, and how long treatment should be continued...colour relatively irrellivant. Sometimes people just have to make some deliberations of their own...I'm one of those, I don't run with the herd, unless I can see that they're heading to greener pastures. N. _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
RE: CS>washing jars...part 1?
Hi Sol, Yep, that's fine, I wasn't suggesting there is anything wrong with clear, which I'm sure you knew anyway. Praps I should have gone further, I think it's well recognised me and this email thing aren't the best of friends as a communication medium . I've spoken with plenty of people via this medium and read considerably from a multitude of literature available in the public domain, and purchased a book or three, and at the end of the day, when push comes to shove, I've made my own determinations on some matters EIS related that's all. With all the information available I considered there was little choice BUT make some of my own deliberations on some things. My philosophy is to talk with as many people as I can, read as much as I can, and from all that pick what I believe is relevant and meaningful. I don't go to the 'enth' degree with this stuff as if I move somewhere else and availability of purest water or some other factor rears it's ugly head I'm going to run into some trouble possibly, so, to that end I just use the EL Cheapest DW I can find, but as long as the uS level remains within a particular tolerance, as dictated by my quality control manager...and that would be me ...I'm satisfied. N. > Neville, > I have always wanted perfectly water clear CS. Would use light > yellow or straw color though. But I didn't care for darker golden > yellow, though that used to be the preferred color, I think. > Since my distiller died, and I am not replacing it right away, I > am trying to relax my color opinions a bit, but will be noticing > whether I can determine any lessened effectiveness should my CS begin > going yellow again due to vagaries of purchased distilled water. _ Time for a new car? Sell your old one fast! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157637060/direct/01/
RE: CS>washing jars?
It sounds like you have to open the dishwasher at the beginning of the rinse cycle to accomplish this -- I'm not always around when it's running. Any ideas on how to get it all in there before starting it Lisa -Original Message- From: Donna [mailto:dscroggs44...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? can also be used in dishwasher! you will need: Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda 20 Mule Team Borax Distilled White Vinegar Add one tablespoon of Super Washing Soda to the dishwasher dispenser** Add one tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax to the dishwasher dispenser you can just put this in the water if washing by hand. Now for your rinse: . Now the recipe for removing the water spots and any residue that so frequently occur with automatic dishwashers and hand washing Pourdistilled white vinegar into the dispenser for the clear rinse gel. or in a sinkful of rinse water. This is my recipe I use all the time. Very inexpensive compared to buying other products. Donna ACS > Speaking of which -- does anybody have a good "natural" safe recipe to make > dish washing detergent so it won't leave any residue on dishes that we eat > from? > > Lisa > > -Original Message- > From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:56 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? > > > >Most dish washing detergent has anti spotting agents that gets left > behind. > Ode > > > At 10:11 PM 1/14/2010 -0600, you wrote: > >> Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have >> been using quart mason jars, >> clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our >> CSW. Is this not acceptable? >> If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a >> lid on it, and just use >> out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been >> thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make >> more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. >> >> thanks much, >> Beth H, still a beginner. >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
RE: CS>washing jars?
At 02:58 PM 1/15/2010, you wrote: That's my 'quality assurance' technique, clarity of colour is my cornerstone and reassures me contaminants have been kept to a minimum, can't eliminate them, but I've kept them to a minimum. And I know popular opinion in some circles is for clear solutions but I don't accept that, never have. Neville, I have always wanted perfectly water clear CS. Would use light yellow or straw color though. But I didn't care for darker golden yellow, though that used to be the preferred color, I think. Since my distiller died, and I am not replacing it right away, I am trying to relax my color opinions a bit, but will be noticing whether I can determine any lessened effectiveness should my CS begin going yellow again due to vagaries of purchased distilled water. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>washing jars?
Norm's snipped quote: [...the silver might turn opaque really fast...] 'Contaminants'...for me it's all about contaminants, be they in the air, in the water, in the production or storage vessel or from blinking as I walk past my setup. There are so many possible ways for contamination to creep into the process. If I have a clear solution, then it must be just that...clear with a 'sheen' to the water, a 'pure' clear. If I get a solution which is lemon yellow...then it must be a 'clean' pure lemon yellow, not tainted in any way, golden yellow...same again, must be pure golden. If any colour is pure and clean then I am well satisfied with what I have, if any colour is 'tainted' and not a 'pure' colour then I have some contaminant present, or something else happening, and if I've done pretty much all I can do to eliminate contaminants and that 'something else happening' in the production process, then what that contaminant is only humpty dumpty and/or the kings men would know. That's my 'quality assurance' technique, clarity of colour is my cornerstone and reassures me contaminants have been kept to a minimum, can't eliminate them, but I've kept them to a minimum. And I know popular opinion in some circles is for clear solutions but I don't accept that, never have. N. _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
Re: CS>washing jars?
At 05:24 AM 1/15/2010, you wrote: Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! I'd like ot hear from Trem again as well, as I was surprised to see him say not to put brew jars through the dishwasher. When I bought my SG-6 some years ago, that is how he said to clean a jar to use for making CS--run through dishwasher, rinse well with hot tap water, rinse with distilled water (this part may have come from someone else) then allow to air dry. I never had any trouble at all with that method. But now I do a peroxide swish, rinse with hot tap water, followed by a rinse with distilled water. And only do that when a brew jar gets yellow on the inside. I have noticed that if a brew jar gets so plated yellow with silver that it begins to look brownish, I begin to get yellow CS. I think Ode explained why that could happen quite some time ago. Personally I also always leave some of the finished CS in the brewing jar to "seed" the next batch. Since I need such pure distilled water to make clear CS this really shortens the brewing time. sol For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>washing jars?
can also be used in dishwasher! you will need: Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda 20 Mule Team Borax Distilled White Vinegar Add one tablespoon of Super Washing Soda to the dishwasher dispenser** Add one tablespoon of 20 Mule Team Borax to the dishwasher dispenser you can just put this in the water if washing by hand. Now for your rinse: . Now the recipe for removing the water spots and any residue that so frequently occur with automatic dishwashers and hand washing Pourdistilled white vinegar into the dispenser for the clear rinse gel. or in a sinkful of rinse water. This is my recipe I use all the time. Very inexpensive compared to buying other products. Donna ACS Speaking of which -- does anybody have a good "natural" safe recipe to make dish washing detergent so it won't leave any residue on dishes that we eat from? Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Most dish washing detergent has anti spotting agents that gets left behind. Ode At 10:11 PM 1/14/2010 -0600, you wrote: Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>washing jars?
Speaking of which -- does anybody have a good "natural" safe recipe to make dish washing detergent so it won't leave any residue on dishes that we eat from? Lisa -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Most dish washing detergent has anti spotting agents that gets left behind. Ode At 10:11 PM 1/14/2010 -0600, you wrote: >Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have >been using quart mason jars, >clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our >CSW. Is this not acceptable? >If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a >lid on it, and just use >out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been >thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make >more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. > >thanks much, >Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>washing jars?
Most dish washing detergent has anti spotting agents that gets left behind. Ode At 10:11 PM 1/14/2010 -0600, you wrote: Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I am using a quart mason jar 7 years now it was new in the beginning..I'm sure I rinsed with distilled water at first ...I just pour to another mason jar ... I alway make EIS in the same quart jar ...when I add distilled water it always measures around 1 ppm before I start process via my Hanna PWT ...I don't think I've ever cleaned the jar...I know if I put EIS in a jar that is not one of mine the silver might turn opaque really fast... Norm From: Beth Harrison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:11:35 PM Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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When I wash dishes with chlorinated water, it takes an inordinate amount of scrubbing. Most dishes/cups come out of the dishwasher still stained with chlorinated water. But when I'm at a house that has well water, dishes get clean just by soaking in water. So I would assume well water and soap can be used to clean glass sufficiently for silver water storage. Jess -Original Message- From: Beth Harrison [mailto:bethharri...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner.
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That's what I am trying to find out a long time ago their was discussion on this and something was said that it wasn't a good idea because it affects the process somehow...I don't care about the jar build-up but am wondering if it does in fact affect the process. From: "slickpic...@cox.net" To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Deborah Gerard Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 9:46:03 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? My question is...even if if does build up, what's the harm? Deborah Gerard wrote: = I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curious...thanks Deb From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-l...@eskimo..com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:24:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. From: Beth Harrison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:11:35 PM Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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My question is...even if if does build up, what's the harm? Deborah Gerard wrote: = I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curious...thanks Deb From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:24:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. From: Beth Harrison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:11:35 PM Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thanks Mike and MA-- I'm taking mental notes, including the hydrogen peroxide. ;o) Also thanks for the chuckles this morning. :oD Beth - Original Message - About the only thing I'd add to your procedure is to rinse the inside of the jar with a slosh of distilled water at least a couple of times. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I have a question about using the same jar to make EIS. Isn't there some kind of build-up that can happen on the sides of the jar from making the EIS? Curious...thanks Deb From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:24:18 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. From: Beth Harrison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:11:35 PM Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner.
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> Well, I should have read *all* the messages before responding. Sigh. MA Naw, Mary Ann, you brought up the subject of hydrogen peroxide, which I'd skipped. Peroxide followed with distilled water rinses is also a fine way to clean the surface, if you decide that the silver build up is undesirable. Thanks, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Well, I should have read *all* the messages before responding. Sigh. MA From: M. G. Devour To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 1:20:30 AM Subject: Re: CS>washing jars? Greetings Beth, You're asking good questions. Keep it up and you'll be able to shed the "beginner" status sooner than you think! About the only thing I'd add to your procedure is to rinse the inside of the jar with a slosh of distilled water at least a couple of times. This will help remove any soap residue left from the dishwasher and make it less likely to contaminate your CS. The only other suggestion I might make is to ask, why wash them at all between uses? (Before first-use is reasonable, of course!) If the jar's been kept closed except when dispensing, you've not allowed anything to contaminate it, say, by drinking out of the jar or dipping it out with contaminated utensils, then what exactly is going to be 'dirty' that needs cleaning out? After a while the inside of my brewing jar turns a bit yellow, but it seems to stabilize at some point. The product remains consistent by observation and effectiveness, so not having a pristine or fresh surface for each new batch doesn't seem to be an issue.. Given what silver is *for*, I don't imagine anything being able to *grow* in there, do you? So, I think what you're doing is not wrong, but might be a bit more elaborate than is needed. Once you've got the basics right, it's actually pretty hard to screw this up.
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Hi Beth. Well according to Trem, that would be a bad idea. Hope he has the courage to post again about it! For myself, I also use a quart mason jar to make my EIS, but then pour it into a storage jar and reuse the *making* jar again. I never wash any of the jars. I do occasionally use a paper towel to wipe off any residue on the inside of the mason jar -- a little bit of silver film does accumulate over time. If I felt the storage jars needed cleaning, I would simply swish around some hydrogen peroxide inside there, then rinse with distilled water. HTH. MA. From: Beth Harrison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 10:11:35 PM Subject: CS>washing jars? Ok, please forgive my ignorance.. We do have a dishwasher, and I have been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If I am doing this wrong, please correct me. thanks much, Beth H, still a beginner.
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Greetings Beth, You're asking good questions. Keep it up and you'll be able to shed the "beginner" status sooner than you think! About the only thing I'd add to your procedure is to rinse the inside of the jar with a slosh of distilled water at least a couple of times. This will help remove any soap residue left from the dishwasher and make it less likely to contaminate your CS. The only other suggestion I might make is to ask, why wash them at all between uses? (Before first-use is reasonable, of course!) If the jar's been kept closed except when dispensing, you've not allowed anything to contaminate it, say, by drinking out of the jar or dipping it out with contaminated utensils, then what exactly is going to be 'dirty' that needs cleaning out? After a while the inside of my brewing jar turns a bit yellow, but it seems to stabilize at some point. The product remains consistent by observation and effectiveness, so not having a pristine or fresh surface for each new batch doesn't seem to be an issue. Given what silver is *for*, I don't imagine anything being able to *grow* in there, do you? So, I think what you're doing is not wrong, but might be a bit more elaborate than is needed. Once you've got the basics right, it's actually pretty hard to screw this up. Be well, Mike D. > Ok, please forgive my ignorance. We do have a dishwasher, and I have > been using quart mason jars, clean from the dishwasher, dried on high > heat, for production of our CSW. Is this not acceptable? If not, why > not? When it's done, we remove the generator thing and put a lid on > it, and just use out of it till it's gone. In the meantime, I get a > clean jar (also been thru the DW) out of the cabinet and make more. If > I am doing this wrong, please correct me. > > thanks much, > Beth H, still a beginner. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
