[SLUG] Iptable and routed

[Xiaolu Zhang]

Hi,

I install routed daemon in RH7.3, then I put the IPtable firewall on top, I found my 
routing doesn't work anymore. is there any reason for this. I enable all the traffic 
but still can't ping to different subnet.

Help !!

Xiaolu
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RE: [SLUG] Steps to install printing (lprng) on new debian system

[Brett Fenton]

I don't know what your requirements are but have you considered cups?

The packages you'll want are cupsys and foomatic-db there will be some
dependencies that apt will solve. Configure via QT-Cups or the web
interface.

For lpr you'll want lprng then I find printtool useful to configure
(if you have a GUI)

Brett

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:> debian system
:>
:>
:> I tried searching the doco, but I can not find anything on steps to
:> install printing on a new debian system.
:>
:> If it is just a matter of packages to install, which ones?
:> So far I've
:> chased lprng, lprngtools, lprfax, printop, ifhp and hpoj,
:> but now where
:> have a I managed to create a /etc/printcap.
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Re: [SLUG] winbind and samba (solution)

[Chris MacKenzie]

I managed to fix the problem and thought I'd post it here as a reference 
for the next poor sod who needs to do this.
 
The problem was two fold:

1) don't use + as a domain seperator as it can cause problems with samba 
   resolving domain groups. (good 'ole testparm told me so)

2) domain groups are case sensitive (duh !)
 
When referencing domain groups in samba be sure to enclose the group in 
double quotes if the group name includes spaces eg. @DOMAIN\"Domain Users"

I love google groups and especially comp.protocols.smb ! :-)

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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Andrew McNaughton]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Colin Humphreys wrote:

> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:50:39 +1100
> From: Colin Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down
>
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:12:10AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
> > client.
>
> I did it using an imap server. (Setup an imap server on your linux box,
> conenct outlook to it, copy up all the mail, then the linux box can
> connect to the imap serve also).

I'll second that.  I mucked around with other options for a while and ran
into too many glitches.  Outlook crashed on me several times before I had
it all done, but was generally much easier to use this imap approach.

I think that the University of Washington IMAP server while
it has security issues (read any file as a logged in user) probably does
allow you to just dump your mail straight into mbox files rather than
having to do a second imap transfer to get your files to a usable form on
your linux box.

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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Kevin Saenz]

there is a tool on sourceforge that will allow you to open and
export pst files to plain text files.
it works well.

> Hi All,
> 
> Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
> client.
> 
> I have searched the web, a file called LibPST is available somewhere.
> (sourceforge is not searching )
> 
> Any one got any suggestions.
> 
> 
> cheers
> 
> Mark
> 

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[SLUG] Steps to install printing (lprng) on new debian system

[Terry Collins]

I tried searching the doco, but I can not find anything on steps to
install printing on a new debian system. 

If it is just a matter of packages to install, which ones? So far I've
chased lprng, lprngtools, lprfax, printop, ifhp and hpoj, but now where
have a I managed to create a /etc/printcap.

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg player

[Jeff Waugh]

> I am looking for an mp3/ogg player that is similar to FreeAMP in that it
> will organise your music files, and provide a jukebox style interface for
> drag-and-drop files into a playlist, ie. two boxes, with the one on the
> left listing files on my drive, and the one on the right listing files in
> the current playlist.

Rhythmbox, or more likely (if you want something that works), net-rhythmbox.

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] mp3/ogg player

[Mary]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:54:51PM +1100, Adam Hewitt wrote:
> WHile I am at it I would also like to modify the CDDA information for
> any files that have blank fields or incorrect fields so that they can
> be organised correctly, so if you know of a tool to do that as well I
> would be very appreciative.

I've been using EasyTag to do this. (http://easytag.sourceforge.net/) It
is a GTK+ application. Its nicest feature is letting you apply the same
tag to an entire directory. For example, if every file in the directory
is from the 'White Album', then you can mark the first file and copy the
album title to every file in the directory.

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[SLUG] mp3/ogg player

[Adam Hewitt]

Hi All,

I am looking for an mp3/ogg player that is similar to FreeAMP in that it
will organise your music files, and provide a jukebox style interface
for drag-and-drop files into a playlist, ie. two boxes, with the one on
the left listing files on my drive, and the one on the right listing
files in the current playlist.

I would also like to be able to sort the files in order of album *or*
artist.

WHile I am at it I would also like to modify the CDDA information for
any files that have blank fields or incorrect fields so that they can be
organised correctly, so if you know of a tool to do that as well I would
be very appreciative.

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[Anthony Wood]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 15:31, David Fitch wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 14:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:18:15PM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
> > > h maybe something funny is happening with xauth??



> > Running out of ideas ...

This might be an idea

Recent debians disable remote X connections by default, you
have to remove the nolisten flag in the X startup scripts (Xdm & startx)

howto: see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-xtcp
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[SLUG] RE: [PLUG] X on remote machine

[Chennakesava Machireddy]

 Do 
 export DISPLAY=clientipaddress:0.0

I think this will work.

Regards
mcreddy


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 3/4/2003 8:20 PM
Subject: [PLUG] X on remote machine

Hi Luggers
I am facing following problem
I have 1 machine running X server at 7100 port
with xdmcp
This machine is installed with a software called
mathematica which has gui interface too
all clients are allowed to access this X
and all firewall rules are flushed

Now one client in newtork telnets to X server machine
and open mathematica on  LINUX CLIENT XTERM
but do not get display on client
 client said he was getting it earlier ok..
Now what should i do get the display on remote machine
for that software?
network connection is working ( ping )
os is Rh 7.2
regards
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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[David Fitch]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 14:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:18:15PM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
> > h maybe something funny is happening with xauth??
> > I noticed doing "ssh -v -v -X lisa" it's displaying:
> > debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/bin/X11/xauth list spiral:0 2>/dev/null
> 
> What is "spiral?"

my local desktop machine

> > this appears one line before the "requesting X11 forwarding"
> > message.  Is that running on my local desktop or the remote
> > machine?  cos manually doing "xauth list" on my desktop returns
> > various stuff but doing it on the remote machine returns nothing,
> > and there is no .Xauthority file in my home dir on the remote
> > machine, but there is on my local desktop one...
> 
> Permissions problem?  Maybe you can't write to your own
> home dir to write the .Xauthority file?

no I can create an empty one, I copied root's .Xauthority
and did xauth merge to create one for me so I have one
now - but of course all that should have "just happened".

> Firewall?  Ssh has to listen to the forwarding port (6000 + DISPLAY screen)
> i.e. localhost:6010 on the destination machine.
> 
> Try netcat (nc -p 6010 -l) to this works.
> 
> Running out of ideas ...

I'm suspecting the firewall at the remote end at the moment,
(think it's blocking too much internal stuff rather than just
external) gonna try and talk to the guy who's looking after that.
Thanks for the ideas and help.

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[mlh]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:18:15PM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
> h maybe something funny is happening with xauth??
> I noticed doing "ssh -v -v -X lisa" it's displaying:
> debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/bin/X11/xauth list spiral:0 2>/dev/null

What is "spiral?"

> this appears one line before the "requesting X11 forwarding"
> message.  Is that running on my local desktop or the remote
> machine?  cos manually doing "xauth list" on my desktop returns
> various stuff but doing it on the remote machine returns nothing,
> and there is no .Xauthority file in my home dir on the remote
> machine, but there is on my local desktop one...

Permissions problem?  Maybe you can't write to your own
home dir to write the .Xauthority file?

Firewall?  Ssh has to listen to the forwarding port (6000 + DISPLAY screen)
i.e. localhost:6010 on the destination machine.

Try netcat (nc -p 6010 -l) to this works.

Running out of ideas ...


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[SLUG] X on remote machine

[upendra]

Hi Luggers
I am facing following problem
I have 1 machine running X server at 7100 port
with xdmcp
This machine is installed with a software called
mathematica which has gui interface too
all clients are allowed to access this X
and all firewall rules are flushed

Now one client in newtork telnets to X server machine
and open mathematica on  LINUX CLIENT XTERM
but do not get display on client
 client said he was getting it earlier ok..
Now what should i do get the display on remote machine
for that software?
network connection is working ( ping )
os is Rh 7.2
regards
upendra


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Re: [Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?[Round II]]

[Mike MacCana]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:57, Louis Selvon wrote:
> >rpm -Fvh ftp://ftp.example.com/pub/redhat/updates/etc/etc/*.rpm
> 
> Louis> I'm learning more and more this week. Thanks. But I am almost done with
> the XFree86 downloads from RHN. Does it matter which order I install the rpms
> ?

Then... 

rpm -Fvh /where/you/saved/stuff/to/*.rpm

Will do the same thing on your downloaded files - only install what's
newer.

F stands for freshen and is designed precisely for this purpose. Its
good ;)

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[David Fitch]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It looks like your ssh is not requesting X forwarding,
> regardless of the -X flag.

sorry, it appears I chopped off the end of the debug output in
my previous email.  After I enter my password I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
debug1: ssh-userauth2 successful: method password
debug1: channel 0: new [client-session]
debug1: send channel open 0
debug1: Entering interactive session.
debug1: ssh_session2_setup: id 0
debug1: channel request 0: pty-req
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel request 0: x11-req
debug1: Requesting authentication agent forwarding.
debug1: channel request 0: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
Last login: Wed Apr  2 11:59:28 2003 from X

so no errors I can see but DISPLAY is still unset.
Before doing the ssh, it doesn't matter if DISPLAY is
set to ":0" or "mydesktop:0", it gets lost after the ssh.

h maybe something funny is happening with xauth??
I noticed doing "ssh -v -v -X lisa" it's displaying:
debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/bin/X11/xauth list spiral:0 2>/dev/null

this appears one line before the "requesting X11 forwarding"
message.  Is that running on my local desktop or the remote
machine?  cos manually doing "xauth list" on my desktop returns
various stuff but doing it on the remote machine returns nothing,
and there is no .Xauthority file in my home dir on the remote
machine, but there is on my local desktop one...

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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Stuart Guthrie]

Check out outport at sourceforge. It runs in windows and creates
iCalendar compatible format files. These are perfect for evolution.
I ran it last week on a client's outlook 2000 enabled PC. Worked well
except for repeating events.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/outport


Stu

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 11:48, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
> > client.
> 
> There are a few Windows-based tools that will export your Outlook stuff into
> more useful formats (such as mbox, iCal, etc). You can also use Mozilla mail
> to import the Outlook stuff -> Mozilla uses standard mbox files.
> 
> - Jeff
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Re: [Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ? [RoundII]]

[Louis Selvon]

>rpm -Fvh ftp://ftp.example.com/pub/redhat/updates/etc/etc/*.rpm

Louis> I'm learning more and more this week. Thanks. But I am almost done with
the XFree86 downloads from RHN. Does it matter which order I install the rpms
?

>That said, I'd spend an hour or upgrading to 8.0. 7.1 is quite long in
the tooth

Louis> In a previous post I have explained why I cannot move to 8.0 on this
server although this is what I really want to do.

Cheers

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[mlh]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:38:30AM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
> [ . ]
> publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
> debug1: next auth method to try is password
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
> debug1: ssh-userauth2 successful: method password
> 
> and now I'm logged in.  Before doing the ssh my DISPLAY
> var was set to ":0", now on lisa it is not set, and not
> surprisingly xterm fails to work.  According to all the
> man pages/faqs/googles I can find it "should just work"...

It looks like your ssh is not requesting X forwarding,
regardless of the -X flag.

I get a "debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing."
when I tried "-v -v -X" here, even when it is denied from
the other side.

The lack of the DISPLAY variable also points to this.
Typically, it will be something like lisa:10.

So why is your ssh not asking for X11 forwarding?
Maybe there's an option in your local .ssh config
(personal or /etc/ssh/ssh_config which says not
to ask for X)  Or maybe it doesn't know you using
X at the local end.  I presume the DISPLAY is exported.
You could try setting it explicitly:
export DISPLAY=desktop1:0
and try again.


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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ? [Round II]

[Mike MacCana]

It looks like you need:

rpm -Fvh ftp://ftp.example.com/pub/redhat/updates/etc/etc/*.rpm

Downloads and installs all applicable updates from that directory. Does
not install any new packages.

That said, I'd spend an hour or upgrading to 8.0. 7.1 is quite long in
the tooth

Mike

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:31, Louis Selvon wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I am downloading rpms one by one from RHN for XFree86 for RH 7.1. I don't know
> if I need all these packages.
> 
> If I install something that my server does not really need, will this mess up
> anything ? e.g I don't know if my server needs this package
> "XFree86-VGA16-3.3.6-38  A generic XFree86 server for VGA16 boards". Will this
> create any issues ?
> 
> Please send comments.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Louis.
> 
> BTW. In all I am downloading 47 rpms for XFree86 from RHN, one at a time as my
> dial up cannot handle a few packages in a shot.
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[SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ? [Round II]

[Louis Selvon]

Hi:

I am downloading rpms one by one from RHN for XFree86 for RH 7.1. I don't know
if I need all these packages.

If I install something that my server does not really need, will this mess up
anything ? e.g I don't know if my server needs this package
"XFree86-VGA16-3.3.6-38  A generic XFree86 server for VGA16 boards". Will this
create any issues ?

Please send comments.

Cheers

Louis.

BTW. In all I am downloading 47 rpms for XFree86 from RHN, one at a time as my
dial up cannot handle a few packages in a shot.

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Re: [Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?]

[Louis Selvon]

Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:25:35AM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> > The problem I've found with the RH update is that it download process is
> > extremely unreliable. YMMV.
> 
> What sort of link do you have?

>28.8K modem.

Louis> I agree too. Since yesterday I've been trying to download all the
XFree86 rpms from RHN for RH 7.1, and each time something is going wrong. I
had to resort to downloading 5 packages (rpms) at a time. I am using a 56 K
modem dial up. 

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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[Terry Collins]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:25:35AM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> > The problem I've found with the RH update is that it download process is
> > extremely unreliable. YMMV.
> 
> What sort of link do you have?

28.8K modem.

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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Jeff Waugh]

> Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
> client.

There are a few Windows-based tools that will export your Outlook stuff into
more useful formats (such as mbox, iCal, etc). You can also use Mozilla mail
to import the Outlook stuff -> Mozilla uses standard mbox files.

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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Colin Humphreys]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:12:10AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
> client.

I did it using an imap server. (Setup an imap server on your linux box,
conenct outlook to it, copy up all the mail, then the linux box can
connect to the imap serve also). 
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Re: [SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[Stephen SLI27 Lindsay]

>Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
client.

I can't remember if they were .pst files (what version of outlook is it?),
but I have been able to import outlook files into kmail before (~12 months
ago). kmail turned them into a more linux friendly format (mbox I think)
that I could use to import into the client I really wanted them in
(evolution for the g/f). At the time I couldn't work out how to do it with
evolution directly however it may be able to do it on it's own now.

So suggestion is:- make a copy of the files onto your linux box, check
whether your client has an import outlook option, if not, cross your
fingers and try importing into kmail. From there you should be able to
massage them into whichever client is your preference.











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Re: [SLUG] Which Process to Kill?

[Pete de Zwart]

If you need to find out what processes are using /dev/dsp, fuser will be of help
as it will show you the pids of all the processes which has it open.

eg:

fuser /dev/dsp

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Re: [SLUG] VMware on Redhat 8.0

[Mike MacCana]

Most of the criticism leveled at GCC 2.96 is provably false, asides from
the fact that Red Hat forked it for a short time (with good reason to).

http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_gcc.html

Mike

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 11:06, Broun, Bevan wrote:
> Im running RH-8 and vmware 3.2 right now. I didnt seem to have much trouble
> getting it going. If anyone needs help getting it going email me - I think
> the only issue is the verion of gcc that is supplied (rh-8 moved from the
> infamous 2.96 to 3.2)
> 
> BB
> 
> on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:58:45AM +1100, Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:39, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> > > If anyone is running VMware 3.2 on Redhat 8.0 without getting a closing
> > > error message, could they contact me OL pse.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what "OL pse" means (sorry), so I'll post here.
> > 
> > The current version of VMWare is not supported in RH8, though there are
> > some work-around options you can find using Google.  The beta version of
> > VMWare 4 *does* run on RH8 (I'm using it myself), but it's just a beta,
> > of course.
> > 
> > (BB hopes he doesn't get flamed for mentioning VMware 4 when the Howard
> > *specifically* asked about VMWare 3.2 :-/ )
> > 
> > I got stuck with this too.  I wanted RH8 for a particular reason, and
> > then found VMWare would not fly.  Ugh.
> > 
> > You can get the VMWare 4 beta from here:
> > http://www.vmware.com/download/
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[SLUG] Help I'm MS bound and I'm feeling down

[mark . crisp]

Hi All,

Has anyone been able to import  .PST files from Outlook to another email
client.

I have searched the web, a file called LibPST is available somewhere.
(sourceforge is not searching )

Any one got any suggestions.


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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[David Fitch]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:22, Colin Humphreys wrote:
> Does the remote box have "xauth". X11Forwarding needs that. Try
> running your ssh client with a bit more -v -v verbosness.

yes xauth is in the path on all boxes.

here's the verbose output (private bits XXX'd out)
note in this case "lisa" is the remote firewall machine
since I have to ssh to that first then ssh to the remote
desktop machine, but for the moment I'm just trying to
get xterm to run on lisa but display on my local desktop.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -v -X lisa
OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL
0x0090603f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be
trusted.
debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to lisa [XXXpublic IP addressXXX] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/davidf/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /home/davidf/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/davidf/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version
OpenSSH_3.5p1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.5p1 pat OpenSSH*
Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 131/256
debug1: bits set: 1614/3191
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Host 'lisa' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/davidf/.ssh/known_hosts:6
debug1: bits set: 1619/3191
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: kex_derive_keys
debug1: newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: done: ssh_kex2.
debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST
debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth
debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT
debug1: authentications that can continue:
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug1: next auth method to try is publickey
debug1: try privkey: /home/davidf/.ssh/identity
debug1: try privkey: /home/davidf/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: try privkey: /home/davidf/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive
debug1: authentications that can continue:
publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug1: next auth method to try is password
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
debug1: ssh-userauth2 successful: method password

and now I'm logged in.  Before doing the ssh my DISPLAY
var was set to ":0", now on lisa it is not set, and not
surprisingly xterm fails to work.  According to all the
man pages/faqs/googles I can find it "should just work"...

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Re: [SLUG] VMware on Redhat 8.0

[Broun, Bevan]

Im running RH-8 and vmware 3.2 right now. I didnt seem to have much trouble
getting it going. If anyone needs help getting it going email me - I think
the only issue is the verion of gcc that is supplied (rh-8 moved from the
infamous 2.96 to 3.2)

BB

on Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:58:45AM +1100, Bruce Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:39, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> > If anyone is running VMware 3.2 on Redhat 8.0 without getting a closing
> > error message, could they contact me OL pse.
> 
> I'm not sure what "OL pse" means (sorry), so I'll post here.
> 
> The current version of VMWare is not supported in RH8, though there are
> some work-around options you can find using Google.  The beta version of
> VMWare 4 *does* run on RH8 (I'm using it myself), but it's just a beta,
> of course.
> 
> (BB hopes he doesn't get flamed for mentioning VMware 4 when the Howard
> *specifically* asked about VMWare 3.2 :-/ )
> 
> I got stuck with this too.  I wanted RH8 for a particular reason, and
> then found VMWare would not fly.  Ugh.
> 
> You can get the VMWare 4 beta from here:
>   http://www.vmware.com/download/
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Re: [Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?]

[James Gregory]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:34, Louis Selvon wrote:
> Louis> I was thinking of doing that but right now this is a no go for the live
> server after talking to the support staff. I still need that stupid Ensim
> control panel to manage domains on the apache server as I am not an expert at
> doing it myself yet. The Ensim control panel installed is only compactible
> with the version of Red Hat running on my server. If the vendors upgrades the
> panel to work on a later Red hat, then I can upgrade the OS. If I become an
> expert at managing Apache before they upgrade their shit then I will
> definetely move to the latest Red Hat version. Right now I have to stay with
> 7.1.

hmm. Well, Just upgrade the bits you're installing I guess. Unless it
relies on something vitally important, in which case you downgrade I
guess.

There's also "pinning" but I don't know anything about it.

> Louis> I googled for this "apt-rpm" and I did not see a version that runs for
> red Hat 7.1. Or any version will work ??

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/redhat-7.1/apt/

You might want to consider using sources for a newer version of redhat -
then you can upgrade and install X at the same time.

James.


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Re: [SLUG] VMware on Redhat 8.0

[Bruce Badger]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:39, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> If anyone is running VMware 3.2 on Redhat 8.0 without getting a closing
> error message, could they contact me OL pse.

I'm not sure what "OL pse" means (sorry), so I'll post here.

The current version of VMWare is not supported in RH8, though there are
some work-around options you can find using Google.  The beta version of
VMWare 4 *does* run on RH8 (I'm using it myself), but it's just a beta,
of course.

(BB hopes he doesn't get flamed for mentioning VMware 4 when the Howard
*specifically* asked about VMWare 3.2 :-/ )

I got stuck with this too.  I wanted RH8 for a particular reason, and
then found VMWare would not fly.  Ugh.

You can get the VMWare 4 beta from here:
http://www.vmware.com/download/

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[SLUG] Suse 8.1 plus laptop

[Robert Tillsley]

Hi guys

I have a laptop running Suse 8.1. When I run the battery monitor for KDE it
says:

Your computer seems to have a partial ACPI installation probably ACPI was
enabled, but some of the sub-options were not enabled -  you need to enable
at least 'AC Adapter' and 'Control Method Battery' and rebuild your kernal.

Any suggestions as to how this can be fixed? I'm pretty new to linux, and
don't really want to have to rebuild the kernal. Is there something I missed
during the suse install?

Regards

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[Colin Humphreys]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:09:35AM +1030, David Fitch wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > fw2 probably has X11Forwarding off in it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config
> 
> no it's set to "yes".
> the bit I don't get is how does it end up back on my desktop1
> box?  (ie. back through fw1)
> 
> on the remote machine my display var is always empty yet the
> ssh man page says it should be automatically looked after
> and set.  If I manually set it then it tries to connect
> back to fw1 on port 6000 which is rejected.  Ie. it appears
> to me it's not using ssh X forwarding at all.

Does the remote box have "xauth". X11Forwarding needs that. Try
running your ssh client with a bit more -v -v verbosness.
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[SLUG] [OT] PGP for Windows

[Howard Lowndes]

Has anyone tried to run PGP Freeware for Windows.  It seems the only 
version available is 8.0 and it is crippled, the mail plugins don't work.

Contact me OL if you have any info pse.

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[SLUG] VMware on Redhat 8.0

[Howard Lowndes]

If anyone is running VMware 3.2 on Redhat 8.0 without getting a closing
error message, could they contact me OL pse.

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[David Fitch]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > So what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Nothing unless you're the admin of fw2.
> 
> fw2 probably has X11Forwarding off in it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config

no it's set to "yes".
the bit I don't get is how does it end up back on my desktop1
box?  (ie. back through fw1)

on the remote machine my display var is always empty yet the
ssh man page says it should be automatically looked after
and set.  If I manually set it then it tries to connect
back to fw1 on port 6000 which is rejected.  Ie. it appears
to me it's not using ssh X forwarding at all.

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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[mlh]

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 09:25:35AM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> The problem I've found with the RH update is that it download process is
> extremely unreliable. YMMV.

What sort of link do you have?

MM:

I've used the RHN since upgrading to redhat8, and it's
been brilliant.  Never a single problem.  Matt sees red
flashing thing, Matt clicks it and then the "forward"
buttons till everything finished.


Sometimes it says the servers to busy and encourages
me to buy support, but that's fair enough.

Matt


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Re: [Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?]

[Louis Selvon]

James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 00:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Louis,
> I think you will find the going much easier if
> you just install a more recent version of any
> distribution.  Redhat 7.1 is pretty old.

Louis> I was thinking of doing that but right now this is a no go for the live
server after talking to the support staff. I still need that stupid Ensim
control panel to manage domains on the apache server as I am not an expert at
doing it myself yet. The Ensim control panel installed is only compactible
with the version of Red Hat running on my server. If the vendors upgrades the
panel to work on a later Red hat, then I can upgrade the OS. If I become an
expert at managing Apache before they upgrade their shit then I will
definetely move to the latest Red Hat version. Right now I have to stay with
7.1.

>If I were you I'd install apt-rpm on your server and get it to do
this, along with a dist-upgrade in bits and pieces (ie upgrade libc, see
if computer still works, upgrade sshd, see if computer still works.
After you're convinced the core "keep the computer running" stuff is
upgraded, let apt do the rest with dist-upgrade). There is info about
apt-rpm on freshrpms. I posted the url in a previous mail.

Louis> I googled for this "apt-rpm" and I did not see a version that runs for
red Hat 7.1. Or any version will work ??

Louis.

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Re: [SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[mlh]

> So what am I doing wrong?

Nothing unless you're the admin of fw2.

fw2 probably has X11Forwarding off in it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Matt

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Re: Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Jeff Waugh]

> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
> > fix it, and it will always be "trash".
> 
> Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh!

(Well, at least I hope I've got the message across.)

> Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and
> get 36 responses;

> I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking
> under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian.

Okay, what's happening here is that "debian" and "network" are being
ignored, so you're getting the results for "config". From the page:

  References: [ debian (Too many documents hit. Ignored) ] [ network (Too many 
documents hit. Ignored) ] [ config: 1620 ] [ 
+uri:/^http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/ (Too many words matched. Ignored) ]

Not wonderfully useful. I'll see what I can do to let namazu pick up
everything else.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Problem with Slug Archives Search Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:

> When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
> fix it, and it will always be "trash".

Some people just wanna play ducks in a barrel huh!

Try "debian network config" at http://www.slug.org.au/archives.html and
get 36 responses;
e.g.

1)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2002/12/msg00456.html
2)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug-chat/2002/12/msg00085.html
3)http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2000/09/msg01131.html

and it goes on.

I was hoping for a message that told me how to configure networking
under Debian. I think 1 & 3 don't even mention debian.

It is reproduceable.

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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[James Gregory]

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:25, Terry Collins wrote:
>  If I were you I'd install apt-rpm on your server and get it to do
> > this, along with a dist-upgrade in bits and pieces (ie upgrade libc, see
> > if computer still works, upgrade sshd, see if computer still works.
> 
> Hahaha, playing russian roulette are we. Sheeze folks, when are you
> people going to realise that some people need a computer to do work, not
> fsck around.

I believe Louis' stated purpose had something to do with "fscking
around" while he had time to do it.

But you're right, I'm not a redhat expert. Perhaps you could tell us
what the "get work done" way to upgrade a redhat server in America is. I
have to do this pretty regularly, so I'd really like to know.

Thanks,

James.


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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Jeff Waugh]

> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
> > being a Free Software project and all.
> 
> I'm not having a go at anyone.

I grok, but you're not "helping us help you" either. :-)

> Just confirming that what a search pops up can be total trash sometimes. I
> might have mentioned that when asking for debian networking help the other
> day. I used three words like (debian network config) and the results were
> anything but.

When you find a problem, please report it. Otherwise, we won't be able to
fix it, and it will always be "trash".

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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Terry Collins]

Jeff Waugh wrote:

> Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
> being a Free Software project and all.

I'm not having a go at anyone. Just confirming that what a search pops
up can be total trash sometimes. I might have mentioned that when asking
for debian networking help the other day. I used three words like
(debian network config) and the results were anything but. I don't know
if it is consistent/reproducible, but it does happen occassionally. I
have no idea where the problem is. I notice that google sometimes does a
similar job as well fttt.

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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[Terry Collins]

James Gregory wrote:

> > distribution.  Redhat 7.1 is pretty old.

Xfree V3. something or other is the answer to the question originally
asked.
> 
> wholeheartedly agree. Up2date probably can do it but you'll need to read
> the documentation to find out how. I don't think anyone actually uses
> it.

The trick with using RedHat's Up2date is to use wget to download the
updates from http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au server, or elsewhere (launch
up2date and get the version required. Put these downloads into the
/var/spool/up2date directory, then run the RHNetwork stuff. If it finds
the update files there, then it uses them.

The problem I've found with the RH update is that it download process is
extremely unreliable. YMMV.



 If I were you I'd install apt-rpm on your server and get it to do
> this, along with a dist-upgrade in bits and pieces (ie upgrade libc, see
> if computer still works, upgrade sshd, see if computer still works.

Hahaha, playing russian roulette are we. Sheeze folks, when are you
people going to realise that some people need a computer to do work, not
fsck around.
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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Jeff Waugh]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  
> 
> I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total
> trash.

Bug reports would be a much better way of expressing your concerns, this
being a Free Software project and all.

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[SLUG] booting problems

[turbo]

hi guys,



o.k. i have my ext2 as /dev/hda5 & the swap as /dev/hda6. I use a linux boot disk to 
boot into the linux partition. This was created during the end of the install of 
redhat v7.2.

Now, i havent used linux for a while. I have done today using the disk but i get a 
stall during boot up. Here is the line where it stalls

'kernel panic:No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel'


Can anyone help me figure this one out ?

I never had a problem using the boot disk to boot into linux even tho partition is 
above cyl 1024 before this.


cheers


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Re: [SLUG] let's patch those sendmails!

[John Ferlito]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:03:20AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On  5 Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  Damn, now to patch those Redhat sendmail boxes... I only get time at 1am  
> >  to do this crap. dpkg's apt is much easier then rpms, damn dependancies! 
> 
> I liked the way it silently wiped out my modified /etc/mail/Makefile.

File a bug report.

apt-get install reportbug 
to make it a bit easier

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[SLUG] X forwarding over ssh

[David Fitch]

Hi all,

can I have X forwarding over ssh such that it works from
desktop to desktop machines with 2 firewalls in between?

ie.
desktop1 <--> fw1 <--internet--> fw2 <--> desktop2

and desktop 1 and 2 have private IP addresses (on different
subnets etc as well).  fw 1 and 2 have real IP addresses.

So far when I try this, my display var starts off set to
":0" on desktop1, I ssh -X to fw2, display var is now not
set so no X apps start.  I manually set the DISPLAY to
export DISPLAY=`echo $SSH_CLIENT | awk '{print $1":0"}'`
but the trouble is it is the IP address of fw1 which not
surprisingly rejects the connection.

So what am I doing wrong?

ta,
Dave.

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[SLUG] In Plant Surplus for 3/3/03

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Re: [SLUG] Emacs mail

[Alan L Tyree]

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 20:25, Angus Lees wrote:
> At 04 Mar 2003 08:56:16 +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> > I would very much appreciate a copy of you .wl file.
> 
> some probably needs explanation and much of it is most likely not
> useful to you.  feel free to ask.

Many thanks, Gus. I'm sure that I will have some questions down the
track.

Cheers,
Alan


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Re: [SLUG] anti spam question

[Andrew Lau]

On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 12:22:54PM +1100, Kevin Saenz wrote:
>  I have spamassassin it seems to be letting a lot of undesirables
> in.

Dear Kevin,

Have you got Razor2  installed? It's a
distributed spam checksum (of content) network. Think of it as an
advanced warning system before the spam reaches you. Hits on their
system adds a nice 3.9 points to Spamassassin scores.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew "Netsnipe" Lau

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Re: [SLUG] let's patch those sendmails!

[Peter Hardy]

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:03:20 +1100 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On  5 Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  Damn, now to patch those Redhat sendmail boxes... I only get time
> >  at 1am  to do this crap. dpkg's apt is much easier then rpms, damn
> >  dependancies! 

That really is an unfair comparison.  Comparing dpkg to rpm would be an
interesting exercise, but I don't think I've yet seen a thorough,
even-handed review of them.

I've only had minor contact with up2date, and that was slightly
unpleasant.  But I hear it works fairly well, as does apt-rpm.  In my
uninformed and mildly biased opinion, that levels the playing field
quite a bit.  I just think debian wins out in its adherence to strict
packaging policies.  It still wins because it has an official repository
of official packages, and you know that everything in that repository is
going to work in similar, well-thought-out and sane ways.

> I liked the way it silently wiped out my modified /etc/mail/Makefile.

I last checked late this afternoon, and debian stil didn't have official
packages for my distribution.  So most of my afternoon and evening was
spent patching a source package, building a binary, and pushing it out
to the boxes I manage.

I had to manually tell dpkg not to recreate sendmail.cf, otherwise it
would also wipe out my custom /etc/mail/Makefile.

Yeah, I pretty much use debian exlusively.  But I don't see why it
should be compared with anything else on an uneven footing.

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Re: [SLUG] Overclocking under LINUX

[James Gregory]

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 19:13, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Linux drives the hardware much harder than Windows
> usually would, so it's more likely to barf.

really? howso? I'd guess we'd be getting into pretty hardcore timing
issues with memory fetches and dma transfers and stuff, eh. The linux
page combining stuff is cool, but I don't really know what's under the
hood on windows (I guess no-one really does) so I can't make any
informed comparisons.

These days I normally use the Windows 2000 installer as a memcheck
replacement - much faster.

no troll!

James.


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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[James Gregory]

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 00:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Louis,
> I think you will find the going much easier if
> you just install a more recent version of any
> distribution.  Redhat 7.1 is pretty old.

wholeheartedly agree. Up2date probably can do it but you'll need to read
the documentation to find out how. I don't think anyone actually uses
it. If I were you I'd install apt-rpm on your server and get it to do
this, along with a dist-upgrade in bits and pieces (ie upgrade libc, see
if computer still works, upgrade sshd, see if computer still works.
After you're convinced the core "keep the computer running" stuff is
upgraded, let apt do the rest with dist-upgrade). There is info about
apt-rpm on freshrpms. I posted the url in a previous mail.

james.


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[SLUG] Re: Follow-up to: Problem accessing User directories in /home

[lukekendall]

On  4 Mar, Bill wrote:
>  Hi Luke,
>  
>  Thanks for the reply. Info as requested hereunder:-
>  
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/fstab
>  none   /proc   proc   defaults0 0
>  none   /dev/ptsdevpts mode=0622   0 0
>  /dev/fd0   /mnt/auto/floppy auto   user,noauto,exec,umask=0000 0
>  #
>  /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ext3 noauto,users,exec 0 0  # Knoppix partition
>  #
>  /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults  1 1  # Mdk 9.0 boot 
>  partition
>  #
>  /dev/hda6 none swap defaults 0 0# Swap for both Mdk 
>  9.0 and Knoppix
>  #
>  /dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7 ext3 auto,users,exec 0 0 #Mdk 9.0 Home 
>  partition
>  #
>  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 vfat noauto,users,exec 0 0  # XP partition
>  #
>  /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 ntfs noauto,users,exec 0 0  # XP data
>  #
>  /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs noauto,users,exec 0 0  #XP data

That all looks good.

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ls -ld /home
>  drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 16:04 /home/

Likewise.  I also assume that a df -k /home would show that /home is on
the root "/" (/dev/hda5) partition.

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ls -ld /home/bill
>  ls: /home/bill: No such file or directory
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>  
>  (Appears that problem is with Symlink???)

I think so, yes.

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# mount
>  /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw)
>  none on /proc type proc (rw)
>  none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
>  none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0622)
>  /dev/hda7 on /mnt/hda7 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
>  /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/hdb1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev)

I notice that you don't mount the Knoppix root partition by default,
which makes sense (avoids the risk of accidental damage).

Similarly, when you boot Knoppix, I expect that its /etc/fstab doesn't
mount the Mandrake root partition, either.

If you'd set up the /home symlink under Knoppix, that would explain
things - the symlink would only be visible under Knoppix.

So the solution may therefore be as simple as a:

# cd /
# mv home home.saved# Let's be careful
# ln -s /mnt/hda7 /home

Let me know how that works out.

luke

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Re: [SLUG] let's patch those sendmails!

[lukekendall]

On  5 Mar, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  Damn, now to patch those Redhat sendmail boxes... I only get time at 1am  
>  to do this crap. dpkg's apt is much easier then rpms, damn dependancies! 

I liked the way it silently wiped out my modified /etc/mail/Makefile.

Glad I took a copy of /etc/mail first.

luke

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Re: [SLUG] let's patch those sendmails!

[scott]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> PS.  For the few of you still using sendmail that is :-)

I must admit when installing debian, I was a bit worried about exim, as I 
knew sendmail as it was RedHat's Default. Now I wouldn't touch sendmail.
Exim is not only easier to configure, it took me a 1/4 of the time to 
integrate amavis into it. Also with debian's nice exim setup that's 
launched on first boot, what could go wrong! 

Damn, now to patch those Redhat sendmail boxes... I only get time at 1am 
to do this crap. dpkg's apt is much easier then rpms, damn dependancies!

Cheers,

Scott
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[SLUG] let's patch those sendmails!

[mlh]

Dear Sluggers,

You may have heard of the latest sendmail vulnerability.

Let's get those systems patched before the worm that exploits
this gets around!

Quite a number of sluggers were bitten by the worm that exploited
the last apache bug.


Regards,
Matt

PS.  For the few of you still using sendmail that is :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[mlh]

Louis,
I think you will find the going much easier if
you just install a more recent version of any
distribution.  Redhat 7.1 is pretty old.

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Searching the slug archives

[Terry Collins]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Erps... searching seems to be ok now...  

I can confirm that the slug archive search results are sometimes total
trash.
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Re: [SLUG] Setting Up Debbie

[Terry Collins]

Wendy Davies wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks (Its Terry)
> I've got Debian 2.2 onto hardware (lol RH8.0 barfed horribly).

Thanks folks. The system is almost totally up and running.
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Re: [SLUG] RedHat 8.0 Which process to kill?

[Terry Collins]

Mick Boda wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I posted a while back regarding difficulty with sound under RedHat 8.0.  I
> have an intergrated AC97 sound card.  XMMS gives me following error

I don't know about the AC97 sound chips (at worst you will have to
recompile the kernel to get drivers in there), but I've just had a very
bad experience with sound under RH80 on a MSI (MS-6378 mobo) that uses
the Via 82C??? chipset. Continual lockups that sufficently trashed the
hard disk to make it unbootable.

I suppose the good news is that I now have finally got it off with
Debbie and have it working. {:-).
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Re: [SLUG] TTF Fonts in X.

[Mary]

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003, Chris Deigan wrote:
> I mainly need to get these Microsoft fonts in for peoples websites and
> word documents.
> Unfortunatly the deb package had to be taken down b'cause M$ removed the
> fonts from their website so Im just trying to install it from a SMB
> share or cdr.

As someone else mentioned, the deb package is still available -
msttcorefonts.

The Microsoft fonts are now being distributed from
http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/

-Mary
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[SLUG] Which XFree86 is Applicable for Red Hat 7.1 ?

[Louis Selvon]

Hi Sluggers:

My live server box runs Red hat 7.1. No X Windows is installed. After browsing
I believed that I need to install something called XFree86 for Red Hat 7.1.

I came across this url

http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2002-010.html#Red Hat Linux 7.1

which I believe has the stuff I need. However I don't know which ones I should
download. i.e do I need "SRPMS", "alpha", "i386", "ia64", or "noarch". How do
I find this out ?

Also do I need to install "mesa", "XFree86", and "Xconfigurator" stuff for the
"i386" (if this is what I need) to get X Windows going, or do I just install
all the XFree86 rpms only that is provided ?

Is it possible to use up2date to directly get these rpms ? If so what is the
command ?

Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] How to Use VNC !!

[Adam W]

> It went in and opened an xterm. I thought that it would show 
> the Linux graphical login screen, and once logged in it would 
> take me to the graphical display I see when I logged in from 
> the Linux machine itself. This seems different to the way 
> cgiwin/XFREE86 works.

It should give you X windows - basically a real bland type... Right
click should give you the X windows menu... And so on.

It's not like the windows version where you move the mouse and it moves
the mouse on the local screen. It has its own "terminal" so to speak.

Although, in the latest Mandrake (9.0, soon 9.1) they have actually
implemented their own (I think its their own) sort of "remote admin"
version of Linux VNC, where it acts like the windows VNC.. i.e you
control the users mouse, KB etc.


> But I'm sure it has it's advantages.
> 
> Now how do I kill this session. Does just getting out from 
> Windows kill this session, or I have to do something at the 
> Linux machine.

Close VNC should do it, or right click for the menu to log out>
Havent used it on linux in ages.


Cheers

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[SLUG] "Councils leading Linux push"

[Jeff Waugh]

The traditional One Line Link email...

  http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6069962%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Emacs mail

[Angus Lees]

At 04 Mar 2003 08:56:16 +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> I would very much appreciate a copy of you .wl file.

some probably needs explanation and much of it is most likely not
useful to you.  feel free to ask.

in ~/.xemacs/init.el i have:

;; use wanderlust for default compose-mail
(autoload 'wl-user-agent-compose "wl-draft" nil t)
(if (boundp 'mail-user-agent)
(setq mail-user-agent 'wl-user-agent))
(if (fboundp 'define-mail-user-agent)
(define-mail-user-agent
  'wl-user-agent
  'wl-user-agent-compose
  'wl-draft-send
  'wl-draft-kill
  'mail-send-hook))

my ~/.wl is attached.  its complicated by the fact that i read both
home and work mail from the one wanderlust (two different imap
servers). thus i need to fully qualify many of the mail folder names.

unless you already use BBDB, you can probably ignore that whole
section, and some of the Debian-mail-specific bits.

 - Gus

; wanderlust setup  -*- emacs-lisp -*-

; see nice example at http://www.tamaru.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~kokada/wl/src

(setq wl-user-mail-address-list
  (list "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"))

(setq wl-subscribed-mailing-list
  '("[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"))

(setq wl-local-domain "inodes.org"
  wl-message-id-domain "gus.inodes.org") ; random unique string

; ldap
;(setq wl-use-ldap t
  ;wl-ldap-server "coke.int-server.urnet.com.au"
  ;wl-ldap-base "ou=People,dc=urnet,dc=com,dc=au")

(setq elmo-nntp-default-server "news.gmane.org")

(setq wl-from "Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>")
;(setq wl-from "Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>")

(setq wl-draft-config-alist
  '(("^\\(To\\|Cc\\): [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 ("From" . "Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"))
("^\\(To\|Cc\\): [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 (template . "debian"))
("^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 ("Mail-Followup-To" . "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"))
("^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 ("From" . "Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

;; add a (pgp-sign . BOOL)
(unless (assq 'pgp-sign wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist)
  (wl-append wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist
 '((pgp-sign . mime-edit-set-sign
;; add a (pgp-encrypt . BOOL)
(unless (assq 'pgp-encrypt wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist)
  (wl-append wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist
 '((pgp-encrypt . mime-edit-set-encrypt

; add a (signature . "filename")
(unless (assq 'signature wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist)
  (wl-append wl-draft-config-sub-func-alist
 '((signature . wl-draft-config-sub-signature
(defun wl-draft-config-sub-signature (content)
  (require 'signature)
  (let ((signature-insert-at-eof nil)
(signature-file-name content))
;; should remove old signature first..
(goto-char (mime-edit-content-end)) ; part-bottom
(insert-signature)))

; apply wl-draft-config-alist when draft buffer is prepared, not when sent
(remove-hook 'wl-draft-send-hook 'wl-draft-config-exec)
(add-hook 'wl-mail-setup-hook
  '(lambda ()
 (unless wl-draft-reedit
   (wl-draft-config-exec wl-draft-config-alist

(setq wl-draft-reply-buffer-style 'full)

(setq wl-draft-always-delete-myself t
  wl-insert-mail-followup-to t)

; templates :)
(setq wl-template-alist
  '(("default"
 ("From" . wl-from)
 (signature . "~/.signature"))
("corporate"
 ("From" . "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
 ("Organization" . "Ursys")
 (signature . "~/.signature"))
("debian"
 ("From" . "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
 ("Organization" . "Debian")
 (signature . "~/.signature")
 (pgp-sign . t

; silly-mail headers. heh.
(if (fboundp 'sm-add-random-header)
(add-hook 'wl-mail-setup-hook 'sm-add-random-header))

; cache sent messages in 'sendlog
(setq wl-draft-use-cache t
  wl-fcc "+outbox"
  wl-fcc-force-as-read t
  wl-draft-delete-myself-from-bcc-fcc t)


(setq wl-plugged t
  elmo-enable-disconnected-operation t
  elmo-plugged-condition 'elmo-plug-on-by-exclude-servers
  wl-auto-flush-queue t)

(setq wl-folder-access-subscribe-alist
  '(("^%" . (t ".")))
  wl-folder-hierarchy-access-folders
  '("^-$" "^-alt$"
"^-gmane$" "^-gmane.comp$" "^-gmane.linux$"))

(setq wl-summary-target-above 2000
  wl-score-folder-alist
  '(("^%Mail/slug$" "slug.SCORE")
("^-gmane\\." "gmane.SCORE")))

(setq wl-thread-insert-opened t
  wl-summary-divide-thread-when-subject-changed t)

(setq wl-highlight-folder-by-numbers 1)
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Re: [SLUG] Overclocking under LINUX

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:38:25 +1100
Mick Boda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to get back into overclocking, but it crashes linux redhat.

Patient: Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I bang my head against the wall.
Doctor : Well stop banging your head against the wall and the pain will stop.

> Is there anyway to hack the kernel so that it thinks it's running on a faster 
> processor?

What you are seeing has NOTHING to do the what processor speed Linux may
or may not think its running. 

If your machine is stable at the rated clock speed, and crashes when above the
rated clock speed then you are running into the limits of what that piece
of  hardware is capable of. 

The main thing that happens when you increase the clock speed is that the quality
of the digital signals within the components (CPU, bus controllers, PCI bridges,
RAM chips etc etc) degrades. Clean transitions between logic 0 and logic 1 (and
vice versa) become less clearly defined, the slopes of the transitions increase 
as a proportion of the clock speed etc.

In addition, because heat is generated mostly during the switching transition
and the swicthing time per clock cycle has increased, you get increased heating
at higher clock rates. In addition, as the termperature goes up, so does the
resistance and hence more heating and worse signals.

The ONLY way that you MIGHT be able to overclock is if you can find the component
which is causing the crashes and cool it down. Cooling will decrase the resistance,
decrease the power consumption which and by doing that, help clean up the signals.


Erik
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Re: [SLUG] Overclocking under LINUX

[Jeff Waugh]

> I wanted to get back into overclocking, but it crashes linux redhat.
> 
> Is there anyway to hack the kernel so that it thinks it's running on a
> faster processor?

No, the kernel won't care what speed the processor is running at. [ You only
need to change kernels if you change architectures or sub-architectures, not
MHz. :-) ]

> Alternatively there is an Epox motherboard (8K9A+) with locakable PCI
> slots, that can unlock athlon XP processors without physically cutting and
> joining bridges, would this scenario then allow Linux to be overclocked
> (assuming the motherboard has some sort of CPU blocking technology)

Not sure, but you're not always going to get a good result when overclocking
a box with Linux on it. Linux drives the hardware much harder than Windows
usually would, so it's more likely to barf.

Maybe it's time to get the best hardware for your most excellent OS. ;-)

- Jeff

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